WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:01:25.560 O friend of des ad. 2 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:48.679 Of Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the 3 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:52.880 Cults of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan, I'm Jacob, 4 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:55.479 and today we are doing a swabcast with one of 5 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:57.640 our buddies, one of our homies, one of our favorite 6 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:02.039 people on the face of this major Chris Matthew from 7 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.480 Forbidden Knowledge News. Welcome back to the Cult brother. 8 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:08.319 Hello, gentlemen, I am ready to get weird with you. 9 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:10.799 Dude. We're gonna stay getting weird. We're gonna be getting 10 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:14.799 into some drones, some UAPs, some like, all the weird stuff. 11 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:18.200 Whenever these two podcasts collide, it is sure to make 12 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:24.079 just an absolutely orgasmic explosion of conspiratorial thoughts. So welcome 13 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:26.400 and uh, we're excited to have this conversation. 14 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:28.439 Let's get weird. 15 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:31.159 And uh what a time, what a time that we 16 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:32.359 are living in right now. 17 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:37.400 I mean, we want to talk about politically, socioeconomically, culturally, 18 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:42.120 it just geopolitically, spiritually and esoterically. There is so much 19 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:44.640 ship popping off it's it's honestly hard for us to 20 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:47.159 even keep up with the current events, let alone the 21 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:47.879 ship in the past. 22 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:48.640 Man, it's wild. 23 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:54.640 Yes, we have entered a very I say, mystical time. 24 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:59.680 It seems like the things that are unfolding have a 25 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:05.200 level of orchestration that goes beyond any human intelligence, and 26 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:07.519 we're going to get into that a bit. But this 27 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:10.800 is our last episode of the year. It was quite 28 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:13.639 an interesting year, As you were just saying, I'm really 29 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.960 looking forward to what twenty twenty five has in store 30 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:20.800 for us. One of the big questions I explored this 31 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.639 past year is the nature of paranormal phenomena as it 32 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:28.960 relates to good and evil. Paranormal for me, can be 33 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:34.759 UFO's hauntings, all sorts of unexplained anomalous events, cryptids. But 34 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:40.919 do the perceived intelligences associated with the spectrum of phenomena 35 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:45.039 have good or bad intentions? Or is it all one 36 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:49.800 thing masquerading as multiple? Is there a deception when it 37 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:55.360 comes to the quote unquote benevolent extraterrestrial experiences. There's many 38 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:59.360 questions that come up. I have no answers, but it's 39 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:02.520 fun to disc us either way. I love exploring as 40 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:07.280 many different perspectives as possible. So before we get into this, 41 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:10.840 y'all remind the audience just a little bit about your 42 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:12.240 show and where they can find you. 43 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:16.280 So we are the Cult of Conspiracy podcasts and we're 44 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:20.039 available on all podcast platforms everywhere. We have a Patreon 45 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:22.080 that you can always find in our show notes if 46 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.240 you want to be able to have access to the 47 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:26.560 shows a couple of days in advance and commercial free, 48 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:29.000 and also to be able to join our live show. 49 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:32.120 But yeah, we are the Cult of Conspiracy. We pretty 50 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:36.319 much cover everything, like whether it's conspiratorial or you know, 51 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:41.599 as Jacob was saying, like economical or the presidential craziness 52 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:43.919 that was going on, whatever's going on in the world, 53 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:47.599 old and new, we cover it all the time because 54 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:50.439 we're trying to really get to the bottom of whatever 55 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.520 it is, What are we living on, where are we at, 56 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:57.439 who is in control? Who are the people that are 57 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:02.560 really like just fooling every body and kind of steering 58 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:04.840 the masses. You know, that's really what We're trying to 59 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:08.319 break that algorithm and break that code of basically just 60 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:10.680 this reality in a sense, and. 61 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.319 We bounce all over, especially in today's world, because there 62 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:16.279 are so many people who never would have considered some 63 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:20.680 sort of conspiracy theory conversation right as of six months ago, 64 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:24.279 but all of a sudden and I've actually experienced this 65 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:26.600 in my own personal life of somebody asked me, oh, 66 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:28.319 what do you do and I tell them I'm a 67 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:30.680 co host of a podcast that's all. It's conspiracy, And 68 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:33.279 six months ago people kind of snicker. 69 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:35.639 Now people are like, let. 70 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:36.480 Me tell you something. 71 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:39.680 When Trump got shot, there's no way and bump up, up, 72 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:41.680 up up, and it's like okay. So now people are 73 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:43.439 starting to talk about it. People are starting to question 74 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:47.879 their reality. So yes, we bounce into the Yetis and 75 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:52.600 the Bigfoots and the cryptids and the orbs. Are they extraterrestrial? 76 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:54.560 Are they demons and angels and everything in between? 77 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:54.959 For sure? 78 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:57.800 But then we also make sure to talk about the 79 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.000 current events of what's going on in today's world, because 80 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:04.079 because honestly, that is what's opening people's minds up, and 81 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:06.720 people are starting to ask questions and they want answers. 82 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:09.399 And then there's people like us. There's people like Forbidden 83 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:11.959 Knowledge News, there's people like the Cult Conspiracy, there's these 84 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:14.759 I'm not even gonna say truth or movement going on here, 85 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:19.000 but there is real facts being discussed in open form debates, 86 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:21.600 and that is how real growth and real idea exchange 87 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:22.839 can happen, you know, And. 88 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:25.240 The good thing about our podcast is is that it's 89 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:28.399 not an echo chamber. Jacob and I disagree on a 90 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:32.199 lot of things, and so it's kind of and there's 91 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:34.079 actually been a few people that reached out to us 92 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:35.720 and they say, you know what, I love listening to 93 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:39.079 your conversations. It's almost like my left brain and right 94 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:42.199 brain are arguing back and forth, because you know, we 95 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:44.680 all want to believe in the majestic and the magical 96 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:46.399 and the spiritual and all that kind of stuff. But 97 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:48.680 then there's other people that are like, no, no, no, no, 98 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:52.639 it's very in line. It's this way, don't worry about it. 99 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:54.519 And so that's kind of the conversations that me and 100 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:57.680 Jacob have one way or another on pretty much all 101 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.360 topics really right on. 102 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:07.360 Great introduction, Well, Jonathan Jacob. Since you mentioned the mainstream 103 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:13.920 sort of material conspiratorial, geopolitical events that are unfolding, let's 104 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:16.680 start there. How do you guys feel about the events 105 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:21.000 that have unfolded this past year, and what are your 106 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:24.759 thoughts about the political situation some of the things that, 107 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:29.199 like you said, most people would start with whenever they're 108 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.759 starting to become aware of some of these things. 109 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:37.800 This year has been pretty epic, scary, even by a 110 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:41.439 lot of people's standards, and not just in America. Yes, 111 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:44.800 the election was wild. Yes, Trump almost getting assassinated twice. 112 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:46.959 Once for sure he got shot. The other one was 113 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:51.480 an foiled attempt. But it is It's been a very 114 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:55.199 wild time. And then we look geopolitically. Mexico, just to 115 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:58.680 our southern border, had like thirty two assassinations to get 116 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:01.480 to the president that they currently we have. South Korea 117 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:03.879 is on their third president in the past two months 118 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:05.879 because they had a coup followed by a coup, and 119 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:09.040 now there's some other wild shit going on, as are 120 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:11.839 by Johnny. Plains are going down hoo Thie rebels are 121 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:15.759 popping off. It's there is so so so many things. 122 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.639 France is in some sort of open revolt. Syria has 123 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:22.160 completely fallen, Haiti is still being ran by barbecue. Last 124 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:24.279 time I checked, he was skinning people alive to prove 125 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:27.720 a point. And shit, uh, Brazil just got found with 126 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.879 more corruptional on their Politically, it's wild. There's so many things, 127 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:32.920 so many things. You could look at pretty much any 128 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:36.040 section of the world and there's probably some wild ship 129 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:38.800 popping off as we speak, and it's a lot of 130 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:40.920 people are worried that we are about to enter World 131 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:44.079 War three because there is so many things popping off, 132 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:45.959 and there's it's a mass powder keg, and it's just 133 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:48.639 waiting on that one final spark to set it all off. 134 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:50.839 And I'm not saying that there's. 135 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:53.680 No chance of that by any means, but I also 136 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:56.319 feel like these are a lot of isolated incidents that 137 00:07:56.800 --> 00:08:00.000 are connected, but are also very nuanced and not connected. 138 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:03.480 So I am interested and excited to see what the 139 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:06.399 next year brings, not just because of the new president 140 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:10.160 taking over for America, but because there is a drastic 141 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:15.399 political shift. There is a drastic culture shift happening across 142 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:18.519 the world right now, where people are being disillusioned by 143 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:21.480 the mainstream narrative that we've been told for so long, 144 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:24.800 by the mainstream sources, by the same old political person 145 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:26.519 that you see on the ballot box that you did 146 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:29.199 last term and the term before that. There's there's a 147 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:32.200 massive shift, and I'm not saying this is the Great 148 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:35.720 Awakening by any means, but people are really waking up 149 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:39.440 to where we are and where we have found ourselves 150 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:42.399 and what we could potentially do to help fix it. 151 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:50.840 So it's been it's been a very wild year, for sure, right, Jathan. 152 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:55.679 Uh yeah. I actually think that it's all happening on 153 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:58.960 purpose in a weird way. Like call it the controllers 154 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:01.759 of the matrix, the god of our reality, whoever is 155 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:05.480 in control of whatever we're perceiving around us. I think 156 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:09.919 that a lot of these things are happening synchronistically in 157 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:11.960 a very weird way. And I don't think that it's 158 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:14.799 really that far out of the ordinary. I mean, it's 159 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:17.919 out of the ordinary, but as the algorithm of the 160 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:20.480 matrix goes whenever. However you want to look at it, 161 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.240 like the fact that we're seeing all these drones and 162 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:25.639 orbs in everywhere, and it's not just New Jersey. A 163 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:27.919 lot of people think it's only there. It is all 164 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:30.600 over the world, dude. You want to talk about Brazil, 165 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:36.120 all over Asia, Europe, South America, I mean literally everywhere. 166 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:37.919 And it's not even just in New Jersey as far 167 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:40.799 as the United States goes. People have been showing videos 168 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:44.960 in Texas, in Arizona, in California and Utah. I'm sure 169 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:47.840 there's probably some going on over in Colorado. On your end, 170 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:52.120 it is wild pandemonium right now. And I think I 171 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:54.240 think that, you know, we are kind of on the 172 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:58.000 verge of some kind of weird awakening. You know, we've 173 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.960 been talking about conspiracies for how long now, And I 174 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:04.679 think that the conspiracies were kind of a soft launch 175 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:08.039 into the new coding of this new reality that we're 176 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:10.799 going to be stepping into. And people had to look 177 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:13.159 around them and they had to be able to see 178 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:15.840 that things are rigged and they're you know, they're they're 179 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:18.960 not what we thought they were as far as politically 180 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:22.679 and and just literally everything the school system, the money system, 181 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.720 the taxation, and literally everything I feel like we're getting. 182 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:28.679 You know, we've been taken advantage of for a very 183 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.080 long time, and people are starting to notice that. And 184 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:33.960 whenever you start to have those breaking in the code, 185 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:37.320 that's whenever weird things start to happen, I think. And 186 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:39.840 so yeah, I think the drones is kind of like 187 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:43.120 it's the next step past conspiracy. I think that that 188 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:47.320 really will launch us into a whole different direction in 189 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:49.759 the future. And I don't know, I mean, that's my 190 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:51.720 own personal belief. I look at the world in a 191 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:54.759 very spiritual kind of way, literally and on a moment 192 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:57.759 to moment basis, I wonder what how it affects me 193 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.399 and my reality and my family and everybody spiritually. And 194 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:04.960 I think that that might have sounded crazy a couple 195 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.799 of years ago, but I think that that is that's 196 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:10.240 at least the way we're going anyway over here. 197 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:14.480 Yeah, I have to agree. I view the world very 198 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:22.080 similarly similarly through a synchronistic lens, especially since I have 199 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:29.360 explored meditation psychedelics, taken a step back from all the 200 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:34.639 material politics and conspiracies, and tried to study how it 201 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:39.440 all fits together in a broader sense, in a sense 202 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:43.559 of the unseen or metaphysical. And there are some very 203 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:48.600 strange connections that you could say that are have been 204 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:51.600 occurring over the past few years, actually, but it was 205 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:56.799 really strong this past year. Lots of very interesting things 206 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:03.360 even crept into our political theater, theological implications. But I 207 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:06.120 have to also step back and look at how everything 208 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:12.960 unfolded and wonder if the people who are embracing Trump 209 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:17.399 as a savior are falling into a very large trap. 210 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:21.120 I get the sense of same boss, old as the 211 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.600 sorry new boss, same as the old boss, but just 212 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:31.639 with a different polished perspective. Maybe you know some new 213 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:35.679 propaganda behind it, But it seems like a lot of 214 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.320 people are being lulled into a false sense of security 215 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:43.960 with this upcoming administration, and it makes me nervous that 216 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:47.120 they could be taking advantage of that. I see also 217 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:52.200 a lot of infiltration into the alternative media spaces and 218 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:57.559 the conspiracy communities. There's a lot of bad information being 219 00:12:57.639 --> 00:12:59.799 put out there, and there's just a lot of nonsense 220 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:05.679 to confuse us. So we're in very interesting territories, kind 221 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.799 of like the wild wild West all over again, except 222 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:13.720 now we're in this technological age. We have drone swarming 223 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:15.919 and I see the drone activity and all I can 224 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:19.960 think of is all the Hollywood dystopian movies that portrayed 225 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:23.279 the world being policed by drones and if you break 226 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:26.320 the law, they could mow you down with this exotic 227 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:29.360 technology at any second. And I'm thinking, is this some 228 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.600 sort of precursor to what that could be? I don't know, 229 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:36.000 but very interesting times, to say the least. Do you 230 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:40.480 guys get the sense of somewhat of being lulled into 231 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:44.159 a sense of security with this false security with this 232 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:45.440 new administration? 233 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.879 Kind of yes, kind of no, I don't want to 234 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.399 say false sense of security. I've always seen Trump as 235 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:53.039 what he is. 236 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:55.360 I'm not. I don't think he's the savior. I don't 237 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:57.679 think he's even a good man. I'm gonna be honest 238 00:13:57.720 --> 00:13:57.960 with you. 239 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:02.120 He is a fortune five hundred ce true blue New 240 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:05.399 York City with construction. He has made deals with mobsters 241 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:07.799 his entire adult life. He didn't get that way from 242 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:09.919 being just a really good guy, you know. I mean, no, 243 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:12.320 he's kind of a piece of shit. But of the 244 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:14.519 options on the table, that was the better one. Don't 245 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:16.120 get me wrong, I think it doesn't take much to 246 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:19.919 see that. But that being said, when you look at 247 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:23.080 what happened when he took charge last time, right, they 248 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:25.639 hit him with COVID. I'm sorry, when he was leaving office, 249 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:27.600 they hit him with COVID to make him looking capable 250 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:30.519 in all these things. It would have made sense to me, 251 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:32.960 especially with what has been going on in the past 252 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.240 few weeks. We just had a United States plane get 253 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:41.519 shot down, okay by our own navy. Now I am not, 254 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.320 you know, the brightest man on earth, but I am 255 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:48.159 quite a conspiracy theorist, and we do know that false 256 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:53.000 flag operations happen a lot if we were trying to 257 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:56.600 make a World War three happen. There was already a 258 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:59.240 few instances. That was the most recent one where we 259 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:01.639 could have said, oh, the rebel shot and we need 260 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:04.000 to go fuck up Yemen and that would have cataclysmed 261 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:07.960 into a whole thing, right. Or the plane that just 262 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.120 went down that Russia shot down looks like the tail 263 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:13.000 was shot with buck shot. Or take an example of 264 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:15.919 anything from Ukraine, take an example of anything from Jibouti 265 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.240 or from Syria. There was so many opportunities already to 266 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:22.600 kickstart a World War three or some sort of a 267 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:25.600 global catastrophe where Trump would take in or take over 268 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:28.840 and be forced to deal with this rather than what 269 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:31.919 he set out to do. But the fact that they 270 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:35.600 haven't pushed that, it's like the world is afraid to 271 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:37.519 go to World War three, but they want everybody to 272 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:40.080 think that we're about to be there. There's like a 273 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:43.639 third to fourth D level chess being played just on 274 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.919 the global public, you know what I mean. So I 275 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:49.320 don't see Trump as necessarily a false sense of security 276 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:52.240 or even a real sense of security. I see it 277 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:56.879 as we will have somebody in office for four years 278 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:01.840 that will be looking out for financial interests. We can 279 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:03.600 guarantee that because at the end of the day, he 280 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:08.679 is a businessman and nothing else. And that could go 281 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:12.720 very positively, but it could really also go very negatively. 282 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:14.919 It's literally just one piece of paper. 283 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.080 Uh, it's one form being signed as opposed to the 284 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:19.519 other at this point, you know what I mean. 285 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:25.919 I don't know. I think whenever we're talking about Trump, 286 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:29.039 I look, I want to be one of those people 287 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:31.840 that gets really excited about the whole thing, but anything 288 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:35.440 politically has always let me down every single time. There's 289 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:39.639 never been an instance where we've had one leader who's 290 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:42.480 actually given a shit about its citizens. I mean, you 291 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:45.600 really care about us, all right, well, stop chemtrails, you 292 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:47.840 really care about us, get rid of the irs, you 293 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.639 really care about us? I mean, how about I mean, 294 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:53.200 there are certain things that Trump has targeted. You know, 295 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:55.600 he's gone after he said that he's not going to 296 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:58.320 be taxing over time, which is nice. You know, people 297 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:02.080 aren't going to be getting taxed on tips. And I 298 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:04.200 think that there's a lot of good things that he's doing. 299 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:08.559 But I think overall, I think the system is too 300 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:12.880 fucked up, man too even to have one guy over 301 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:15.000 the span of four years to go and fix it. 302 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:16.960 And I think that's exactly the way they want it. 303 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.279 I mean, just look at you know, whenever he was 304 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:22.039 in office before, how many of those of those things 305 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:25.880 did the next administration tear down? Like it was like 306 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:27.759 so easy to just get rid of it. And as 307 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:30.119 a matter of fact, you maybe it was or some 308 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:32.519 shit right. And as a matter of fact, you know 309 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:35.880 that the Biden administration has been selling parts of the 310 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:38.839 southern border wall. Literally they've been selling them for like 311 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:41.599 twenty bucks a pop. It's like it's it's like eBay 312 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:43.599 up in here, dude, It's like, what the hell is 313 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:46.279 going on? And so I think that yeah, there are 314 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:51.000 it's seemingly there are two separate factions that have different ideologies. 315 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.240 But I think at the very top, dude, this shit 316 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:57.599 is so interwoven it's it's impossible to completely break down. 317 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:00.720 I think that it's it's one of the most brilliantly 318 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:02.720 evil things ever constructed. 319 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:06.559 And with that, let me ask you, Chris, what are 320 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.440 your thoughts on musk? Because I keep hearing people in 321 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:13.039 the political talking space say, oh, yeah, Trump Musk is 322 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:15.119 gonna take over, and it's like, wait, I'm sorry, is 323 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:16.880 Musk his VP? 324 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:17.440 Is he? 325 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:17.680 Like? 326 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:21.079 No, He's in charge of the Department of Government Efficiency, right, 327 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:24.640 But people cannot separate the two. They're thinking that Elon 328 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.400 is going to be basically running the country third party 329 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.519 through Trump. I kind of have no dog in that fight. 330 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:33.799 I personally see Elon as a chaotic neutral like he's 331 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:36.480 He could absolutely wake up tomorrow morning and decide he's 332 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:38.079 a super villain and there's nothing we could do to 333 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:39.599 stop that if he so chose. 334 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:42.400 But I don't. But maybe he's already made that choice. 335 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:44.559 There's so many questions where are you at with the 336 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:45.839 Musk Trump combo? 337 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:50.839 Well, I am sort of landing along those same lines 338 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:53.799 that he could be a wild card, But I think 339 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:58.119 as for now, he's being used as a technological soldier 340 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:04.519 to roll out the dystopian future that is foreseen for America, 341 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:08.200 and this seems to be the perfect guy to get 342 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:10.759 that job done. And I think he's being used for 343 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:15.079 that particular purpose right now. But I don't want to 344 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:17.920 spend too much time on Trump. I've always already given 345 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:20.759 the man too much limelight in the past few shows. 346 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:24.920 Let's get into the weird woo woo waters here. We 347 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.880 talked about the drones earlier. This is a big story. 348 00:19:28.279 --> 00:19:31.720 I've had a few people on to give their insights 349 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:34.920 and theories about the possibilities of what we're seeing, and 350 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:41.279 the larger consensus is it is some sort of military 351 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:44.680 exotic technology. At least when it comes to the drones, 352 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:49.000 what we can point out as appears to be some 353 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:52.400 sort of physical hardware. Maybe it contains some sort of 354 00:19:52.440 --> 00:20:01.079 exotic technology, but it's pretty much standard drone looking technology. 355 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:04.680 Then we have r I see it as like they're 356 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:08.000 launching new tech that the regular public hasn't seen yet. 357 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:09.960 How are these drones able to stay out for six 358 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:12.160 to eight hours? How are they the size of cars? 359 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:12.559 And all that. 360 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:16.319 It's very possible that this is some new Raitheon excuse me, 361 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:20.160 RTX formally Ratheon new military hardware that they are doing 362 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:23.000 soft launched type of thing. Now, why what's their reason? 363 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:23.960 Who knows? 364 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:26.559 But as far as the drones go, I could at 365 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:28.440 least believe that, you know what I mean, it's some 366 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:31.039 sort of government op that they're not comfortable talking about 367 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:31.799 out loud yet. 368 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:35.960 Well, we have the drones, and that would be the 369 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:43.079 most obvious explanation for that. But as as excuse me, 370 00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:47.119 as Jonathan was saying earlier, they have these other videos 371 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:51.839 that are surfacing of these anomalous orbs that do not 372 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:57.440 behave like any sort of man made technology that I've seen. 373 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:03.000 But I've seen these over the years, looking like intelligent 374 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:10.279 light sources that move in ways that our technology doesn't 375 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:14.440 have the capability to. I've seen some very interesting ones 376 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:19.039 recently that seem to show the man made drone technology 377 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:22.119 coming into contact with one of these things and being 378 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:26.240 immediately disabled and falling to the ground. I've seen a 379 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:30.759 few videos similar to that, but as far as theories 380 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:34.680 on these, there's very few. I've heard some say that 381 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:40.359 they believe these are two ours our exotic military technology, 382 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:43.920 which I'm open to. It's possible that we may have 383 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:47.960 something like this, but I lean more on the lines 384 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:51.000 of something more nominalists that we aren't even sure of 385 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:53.799 what it is. I'm talking our military. But what do 386 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:54.359 you guys think? 387 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:58.359 I think that what we're looking at, for the most part, 388 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:00.880 I think that a lot of the orbs that are 389 00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:04.440 that are being videoed and captured, I think that that 390 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:09.720 is maybe maybe intergalactic, maybe it's from here, maybe it's 391 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:12.720 it's something that we're not accustomed to seeing, like this 392 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.960 is a phenomenon. There's no doubt about it. Whether they're 393 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:18.839 coming from our oceans, whether they're coming from another dimension, 394 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.359 maybe they're coming from another planet, who knows, But I 395 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:24.839 think that this is something that is an absolute crazy phenomenon. 396 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:27.640 And whenever you look at it, I think, and there 397 00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:32.559 are like videos of drones and orbs within the same frame, right, 398 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:36.480 and you'll you'll see like almost like a like like 399 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:40.839 a drone is trying to understand the orbs and maybe 400 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:44.000 trying to follow the orbs around a little bit. And 401 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:47.839