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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by Fan Tracks. Here's

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sh QS, your source of information and analysis to help

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you win your fantasy hockey league.

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Speaker 2: Block off hot a step hit on, Stay lock.

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Speaker 3: Here's your host, Jesse Sovier and Victor Nuno.

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Speaker 4: Fantasy Hockey Live once again. Jesse Severe, Victor Nuno. That's

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not all today, but we'll save that for a moment

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from now. Victor Nugno of McKean's, of Dabber, of all

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the places. How you doing today, buddy.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing awesome, Jesse.

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Speaker 5: As we sit here and record, there are Olympic hockey

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games going on with NHL players.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome. I love it. I'm enjoying it. How about you,

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my friend?

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, let's get that going, Victor. I'm twitchy without

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without hockey, but I'm twitchy without hockey. But now at

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least I get a little bit of my fix in

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between curling events. Victor, I'm all in on curling. During

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this Olympics, I watched I think every bit of the

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Corey and Corey US silver medal winning mixed doubles team,

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and I really enjoyed it. So now I guess the

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men's curling now starts. It will have well started by

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the time people are listening to this, but it's starting

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around our recording time. So, yeah, you're into the Olympics victory,

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just hanging off for the hockey or what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Man, I love the Olympics. I love a lot of

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the I was thinking about this. I think I love

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the summer more. I think I resonate with the events more.

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But Winner has hockey, and I like some of the

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unique sports. I ski, so I like that and skating obviously,

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but the curling, you're right, that was amazing And I

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thought this was Canada's jam and they didn't even meddle,

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so I guess I guess they can't claim that anymore.

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Speaker 3: And it's an American sport.

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Speaker 4: Victor, I don't talk trash about Canada anymore. That's how

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this rolls.

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Speaker 5: So this is one of our Tidy Takes episodes, and

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just a little PSA for everybody. I hope you find

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this interesting and important, even if you're not in the

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tight because that's really the goal here. We're not trying

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to talk to just about the league. We're just using

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it as a jumping off point to talk about certain players,

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their value, trades how we might be able to use

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these assets, and hopefully we try to make it translatable

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to all the leagues. So the goal is really not

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to just talk about our league, because we know most

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of you listeners are not in the Tidy.

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Speaker 3: Although maybe you should be.

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Speaker 5: But the goal is really to make the information generalizable

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and use these trades as a jumping off point to.

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Speaker 3: Talk about the players and the analysis.

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Speaker 5: So hopefully you find that to be the case, and

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if not, please let us know how we could do it.

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Speaker 4: Better join our discord by emailing this Fantasy Hockey Life

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at gmail dot com. Otherwise, we have another exciting episode

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in a third voice, and you'll hear right after.

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Speaker 6: This welcome back everyone for another edition of Tidy Takes,

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and we of course bring in our Admiral Ryan Downey.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, my friend?

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Speaker 2: I am great for the listeners. We're recording this just

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as Puck is about to drop on the Olympic Hockey

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Slovakia versus Finland, and so we're gonna hope and stay

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very kind of concise here today. But if we get

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a little distracted, it's probably because dallaboard Divorski has done

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something on the second line here for Slovakia's bear with

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Us here. But today is actually the beginning of the

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recording of one of our favorite episodes of the year.

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This is the Tidy Takes Trade Deadline Spectacular.

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Speaker 6: Hey.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you guys, but I love this one.

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In the Tiered Dynasty, our trade deadline tends to be

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a little bit earlier than most because our format insists

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on two week playoff matchups to make sure that the

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most well crafted teams have the sample size to prove

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that they are indeed the best. And yes, we had

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our trade deadline at the end of January. This makes

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this very trade deadline episode a nice resource for fantasy

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managers who have trade deadlines upcoming post the Olympic break

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as you contemplate the moves you're going to make to

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go for glory. I was actually speaking with our former

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Tidy Champion, I guess, our current reigning Tidy Champion, Mason,

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the NHL Rankking, who also is the king of this

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trade deadline episode usually and he says that this is

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his favorite one of the year. And so with that

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feedback in mind, we're actually planning to give you a

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we have in years past. The Tidy managers this year

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did not disappoint, and they gave us plenty of trades

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to discuss, which we'll talk about today. But there were

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also a number of trades from the three hosts of

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this very podcast segment, Victor Jesse and myself, as we

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each took steps in the Tidy to retool our team.

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down our own decisions facing the music next week alongside

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this episode where we will focus on.

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Speaker 7: The Tidy managers more broadly.

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Speaker 2: So enjoy this episode today and keep an eye on

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the podcast feed for next week, as Part two of

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the Tidy Takes Tread Deadline Spectacular is coming. But for today, gentlemen,

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we're gonna start with the Tidy managers, who gave us

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so much content that we really had to limit it

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to one or two trades per division, and we'll start

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in the bottom tier three lidstrom, where the new managers

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to the Tidy start the long climb to Tidy supremacy

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and fortune favors the Bold in this particular division, which

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usually begins with a startup draft or at least a

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substantial dispersal, so there's a lot of players that could

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get moved at any given time. These aren't players that

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have been like fixtures on some of these dynasty teams

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happens when we put all the puzzle pieces together. And

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the first two managers that we're going to talk about

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today Backseat Baseline and Western Stars. Certainly we're moving the

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pieces around the chessboard. This is a huge trade and

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so lots of prospects for you to discuss, Victor, So,

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I hope you've got your all your tabs open. We've

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got the Western Stars acquiring the Clubs Bluejackets, top line

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wing your career, Kirol Marchenko, goaltender archer Oktyamov in the

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Toronto system, and backup goaltender for the Detroit Red Wings,

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Cam Talbot for a veritable Schmorgas board of prospects from

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the Backseat Baseline. Bradley Nadou, Dmitri Bouchell, mccoff, Gabe Perrot,

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Consta Holanious Berkeley Catton. Western Stars had this to say,

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it was a painful trade that he likes following prospects

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and had to decide to give up a bunch of

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future for present to try and take a shot at

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promotion rather than patiently wait. Pretty smart move in the

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first year of the tidy, if you ask me, it

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was hard to put together a win win trade and

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in the end the Western Stars agreed to the best

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deal they could find to help them this year. At

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the backseat baseline is the team that acquired all of

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these great prospects for giving up Marchenko, Talbot and Okayamov,

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and he had this to say about each of them.

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Paneren good feeling, so he would only get more opportunities

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the season would progress, and as of the Olympic line,

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he was playing on the first line the Berkeley Catton acquisition.

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one of the worst teams in terms of fantasy, but

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that he's confident in a year or two he will

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or he might be trade to another team as part

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of a package for a star player, like they tried

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put Nado in a position to succeed. Helenius was almost

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point per game in the minors and that his ceiling

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was producing decently with the Sabers did in his call

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up and so that he could be a middle six

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player starting next year. And that as for Buchelnikov, that

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he was the oldest prospect that the team had, and

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despite not having the strongest season, he was performing well

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last year on a weaker team, so he figured his

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dip in production was due to playing a lesser.

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Speaker 2: He believes that the prospects he receives are going to

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Speaker 7: Time to compete comes. They strengthen his.

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to trade for a d man or a goaltender next year,

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while still allowing him to compete to have the first

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overall pick in the next draft. He feels he gave

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up the better player in Marchenko. People always say that

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the team that obtains the best player wins the deal.

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Speaker 7: But in the long run this will make his team

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Speaker 2: The Western Stars Victor finished the season in fourth place

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in the standings and fifth in points four, so this

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moved to pick a Marchenko could certainly put them over

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Speaker 5: I think this is a perfect win win trade. Quite frankly,

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points from that. Almost six fantasy points per game is

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definitely pushing towards that really difference maker in the tidy.

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Speaker 3: And then I think getting two goalies.

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Okaiyamov is going to play Talbot, even if they don't

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play that much, just getting them in the lineup without

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Speaker 3: That's pretty big. So it's a good win now trade.

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not like there's limitation after this year. And then Oktaiyamoff

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certainly could get more stars down the road, so he's

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not just getting like a thirty seven year old star

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right now. He's getting someone who will be relevant for years.

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that getting five really good prospects is pretty incredible. I

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high end. Keel Nikoff, I think we've talked about he

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is having a really good season. He's injured right now,

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and I think that he probably profiles more as a

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middle six, but he has upside for more.

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and he plays bigger than his size, and so I

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like that. I like that gamble. And then the other

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four I think could be stars. Bradley Nadou, Gay pro Consolenius, Berkeley, Cadden.

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know a couple of them, even top liners. Helenius has

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had an incredible run he has he was eligible for

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the World Juniors, and I guess. I don't know if

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it's it seemed like he wanted to focus on being

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a professional instead of going to the World Juniors, and

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you love to see that. He was representing the Rochester

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Americans at the AHL All Star Game. He's nearly a

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point per game in the AHL this season. He's gotten

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some looks in Buffalo and looks not out of place,

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and he's someone who looks like he was going to

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be a top sixer, if not top liner for the

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reasonable there. Nadeau is a goal scorer. That guy has

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an incredible shot. We've already seen it in the NHL.

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a point per game in the HL for the Chicago Wolves,

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which isn't the best team, and they have an interesting

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profile there for an HL club, but he's forty one

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points and thirty four games. That's pretty awesome stuff. I

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I think he is he profiles as a one see

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if he can put it all together, so that remains

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to be seen, but that's awesome. And then you have

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Gaye pro who's one of my favorite prospects, who's a

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little bit has been a little bit undervalued, I would say,

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and he's already, as you said, playing in the NHL,

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so that getting those five I think he got whale

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worth the value. In fact, he might have even won

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this trade, frankly if you look down the road, because

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he's got five difference makers for what is at least

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one one and a half or maybe two difference makers

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for the Western Stars. But a good win win, a

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win now and a win later. I think that's exactly

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what dynasty trades are about. And I think if you're

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selling one of your top assets like Crow Marchenko, you

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got to get great value. You got to get guys

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that are going to be difference makers, not just some

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lottery tickets who may work out.

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Speaker 4: It makes sense to me what's going on here, And

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I've said it before on this show. You can only

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take the trade you're offered in terms of getting that

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best value to try to get over the top. I

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am concerned whether Western Stars have enough to get over

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the top. I've taken a look at the team overall.

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They're going into the playoffs in fourth place, which means

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they'll have to play a first round game, and they

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actually have I think the fourth most points in the league.

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Now what I would say some people will go all

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in for Alex Sovetchkin or something. You better win this

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year if you're getting Alex Sevechkin. Kerl Marchenko has a

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significantly longer expiry date on him and the rest of

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the Western Stars team. I'm very impressed in terms of

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almost everybody is thirty or under. This team could be

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extremely competitive with just what they have for several years

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to come. So he's spinning out prospects for that chance.

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Now that said, Marchenko is obviously a huge piece to

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victory Oktaiyamov. I don't know if it's going to come

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in particularly soon in Talbot. Talbot's only started one game

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since January twenty second. I was looking the other day,

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John Freakin Gibson is owning it. If you haven't notice

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this year, Tom Gibson is out of control for the

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Detroit Red Wings and Talbot is not getting a whole

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lot of time except on back to backs. But if

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you look at the if you look at the situation

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that this Western Stars team finds itself in, they just

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don't have goalies. They've got Rhymer and Omark and now

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they've got Talbot, and now they've got Gustafson, which, by

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the way, even though Gustavson's got a Wallsteed problem, He's

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started the top fifteen. He's in the top fifteen for

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most goalie starts too. In Minnesota there he really needed goalies,

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and I get this strategy. It would have been very

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hard for me to do that as the Western Stars,

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just because I don't know if I would have felt

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like this would take me over the top. But maybe

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he's got to build to survive that and still be

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one of the top teams for contention next year. As

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far as backseat, getting these prospects to me as a

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no brainer, there's a ton of value here. You could

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have two of these guys breakout to be bigger than Marchenko.

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That's well within the realm of possibilities. The different possibilities

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could come out here, in which case you've done the

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right thing here. Yeah, it's that both sides make sense

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to me. I wish that the Western Stars had got

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a little bit more, but I think it's still perfectly

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defensible what they got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Tidy managers agree with you, guys and

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with me that to backseat baseline wins this trade fifty

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two percent to twenty eight percent, with twenty percent of

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the managers thinking that's an even trade. I personally just

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think that with some of these guys already playing in

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the NHL this year and some of them looking to

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make their debuts in the next year or so, you're

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going to get a lot of really valuable minor swing games.

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Just looking at the miners eligibility for some of these players.

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Bradley and Dede as of the recording of this episode

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was at eleven out of his one hundred minors eligible

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games Perro twenty eight out of one hundred, Hollanious eight

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out of one hundred, Caton forty out of one hundred,

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and on the other side of the trade, Okayamov has

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only played one game out of his fifty for goalies.

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I personally think you're going to get more value from

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having those guys in the swing spots and being able

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to rotate them up and down rather than having the Marchenko,

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even though Marchenko's mentioned Jesse is young enough to still

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be contributing for.

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Speaker 7: A long time Victor.

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Speaker 2: Before we move to the next deal, I want to

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just pull out and spin on something you said there

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that gave Pero is one of your favorite prospects, and

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I agree. I've been a Gabe Pero fan all year,

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shouted him out on keeping Carlson short shifts. I enjoy

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where he's going, especially with the opening lineup spots for

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him in New York. I want to contrast a little

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bit with what you said last week on the Dynasty

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Stock episode of Nashville and Colorado about Gavin Brindley. I

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see those guys as similar players, at least similar archetypes.

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I know that Parrot has about three more inches of

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height on Brindley, but I see them as playing similar roles.

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What to you differentiates those two players Brindley.

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Speaker 3: And Paro, Yeah, I appreciate that. Frankly, I don't see

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them as that similar, but I appreciate the question. I

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just think Paro.

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Speaker 5: Has so much more of I'm just thinking about his

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brain and how he sees the game and how quickly

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he makes decisions. So he's like a genius compared to Brindley,

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who's like a smart player.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to say Brindley's not, because I think

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he is. He can move things quickly, but the hands

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that Pro has, the playmaking and the vision and the

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brain to make it all work. Now, Brinley's certainly a

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much better skater. He's got that energy, he's got that speed,

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and Pro will never be accused of being a burner.

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But he gets to spots before people do because he

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knows where the play is going. He knows he sees

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the play well in advance, and all of that is

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going to translate super well, especially when he gets when

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he gets a play with bigger, better players.

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Speaker 3: You see it. You see how he makes he plays

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with them. He makes them better.

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Speaker 5: He anticipates, like he's just if he gets put in

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the right situation, he can just absolutely thrive I'm a

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little worried with what with where New York is going,

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how that's all going to work, because they might trade

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away all of their strong pieces and then who's he

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going to have to play with, So that's a little concerning.

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But I just think he's so intelligent and he's made

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it work at every level with regardless of whoever he's

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playing with. He just is able to dissect defenses, attracted tension,

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and manipulate defenders like just about no one else. So

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he that is a lead even at the NHL level.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the thoughts there, Victor. It's the conversation just

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for the listeners that you and I have been having

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on DM over the past couple days about Brindley and

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where he can end up considering that the bff's and

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the Tidy Lord Stanley Division picked him up this year.

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I really have a vested interest in the player. So

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thanks for sharing that. We're going to move from our

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sub six foot wingers here over to the blue line

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and some big beefy defenders to talk about here in

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Tidy Yager with a trade between Mark tolpar Ufa and Marcus.

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And before I even talk about this trade, I do

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have to shout out Marcus, who represents one of the

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great worst of first stories that we've ever seen in

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the Tidy. Marcus finished near the bottom of the standings

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of Tidy Lidstrom in the twenty four to twenty five season,

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with the worst points four of any team in the

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lowest tier of the Tidy, and he has turned it

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around this season to finish second in the Omni fast

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Track Race, losing it by a hair to Shane and

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the Taiwan Travelers. Deals like this one coming up were

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instrumental in him getting there, and he has a bye

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week now as he waits for the winner of Ice

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Picks and Jesse three po on the Tidy Yogur playoffs.

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So great job, Marcus, and thanks again for giving us

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a great trade to talk about here today. Marcus acquired

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Rasmus Anderson and Jacob Trube to beef up his pro

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roster defenders, both of them actually coming in at five

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point two to one average Fantasy points per game, and

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in exchange he's sent over to tolpar Ufa Mark's team

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Cam York, r Tim Levshunov, Lion Bixl and Tristan Luno.

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Marcus had this to say. At this point it was

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starting to become a parent that I was in contention

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for the Omni fast Track. No duh, so I wanted

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to make a couple moves that put me in a

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good position to maximize points four with the added benefit

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of players with good playoff schedules. York was on IR

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for a while, so he was earning no progress in

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my Omni quest. While it might have felt like a

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lot to give up as a whole, I picked pixel

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off waivers for cheap. Luna was a throw in from

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a previous trade, and while lef Shunov is going to

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be really good, put a pin in that one. I

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don't want to be in Yoger when that time comes.

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Fair Truba and Anderson both came in and scored a

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bunch of points, much more than I would have scored

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if I hadn't made the trade. Mark was a great

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trade partner. I'd let him know of my interest in

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the pair, and he asked for lev Shunov in return.

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I sent an offer with lev Shunov and he countered

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with what we ultimately accepted great GM and I hope

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the group he got in return are studs for a

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long time. As for Mark, he said the deal came

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together fairly quickly, that Marcus had been asking about Matheson

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earlier in the year, and while he didn't think moving

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it would make sense, he was aiming to make some

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moves to position himself for next year as this was

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definitely not his year. Barkov went down, followed by Jack

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Hughes on that unfortunate restaurant incident. Ough tough injury luck

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for Mark here and add to that Robert Thomas's troubles

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this year and things were not looking up. So to

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his mind, now is definitely the time to move Anderson.

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He wasn't expecting Anderson's trade value to improve after he

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was moved to Vegas. Getting Levshanov was his main motivation,

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but after talking it over with some other managers, getting

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York and Bixel included positions him well for next year,

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and Luna was a nice addition to the package. He's

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hoping that next year, with a healthier lineup up front

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and a ritual blue line, that he can hit the

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ground running. So how did Marcus do hear? Victor to

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established NHL pros who, as I mentioned, average five point

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two on Fantasy points per game. In the twenty five

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to twenty six season in exchange for a quartet of

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interesting young defenders, each with their own quirks and quarks,

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with Levshinoff being the centerpiece here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is I think this is an interesting trade.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about Anderson and Truba both in the low

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twenties in terms of their rank, and for fantasy defensemen

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in the tidy, they're both pretty high up there, above average,

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giving you significant value each night, high peripheral floor, even

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if they're not going to score a bunch, and those

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are really safe players.

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Speaker 3: I like that move. You're not worried about a guy.

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Speaker 5: Who's maybe going to lose power, play deployment, or maybe

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get traded to another team where he's not going to

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be as valuable, So that is really nice.

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Speaker 3: I think Marcus did really well.

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Speaker 5: He was able to increase his points per game over

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York and get a super high floor, and so I

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think that was brilliant, and so that makes a lot

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of sense what he gave up. It's interesting having all

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six defensemen in this trade, right, that's a little unusual.

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I think it makes sense to usually when people are

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trading away top defenseman. One thing I always tell them

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is get one of those types of players back, like

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if you're trading two defensemen and getting back all forwards

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or something that might deplete your your pipeline. And so

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I think it's interesting here that he got all defensemen.

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I might have suggested, why don't you get a forward

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or something, mix it up a little bit. But nonetheless

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I think that what he got was really good. Cam

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York having quite frankly the best season of his career.

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Maybe not that exciting at thirty seven point pace, but

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he's playing the most minutes. He's got pretty decent, decent

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priffs anyways, now so great for hits but good for blocks.

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And he's forty point defenseman is nothing not too terrible,

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although the four points per game in tidy is just

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a little bit above average, but you got some value there.

476
00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:09,559
The other three are really where it comes down to

477
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,319
and lift Shunoff. He has really struggled. I think you

478
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,799
were alluding to that, Ryan. His underlying metrics of even

479
00:22:16,839 --> 00:22:21,799
strength offensive defense haven't been so good, and he's had

480
00:22:21,839 --> 00:22:25,200
to have some benchings. And we talked about this when

481
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,079
he was coming up, that he plays such a wild

482
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,000
style that they were going to have to tame him

483
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,799
a bit and get him to play a little bit

484
00:22:31,799 --> 00:22:34,640
more structured, and they're doing that, and I think that

485
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,480
he certainly can do that, and he's got a lot

486
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:41,000
of great instincts and offensive upside to be able to

487
00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:45,160
retain some of that interest in fantasy and be a

488
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,319
good asset. But he's learning how to play within that structure.

489
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,519
So I think that he still could be and still

490
00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:55,319
will be a valuable a good defenseman, but he's figuring

491
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,079
some stuff out. Bischell is interesting, and apparently it is Bischel,

492
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,240
even though it's ridden Bixel. Corey Prohman asked him and

493
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,440
he said, let's say it Bischell, Okay, whatever, it's a

494
00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:10,440
favra thing farv So Bischel he is, I think.

495
00:23:10,319 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 3: Turning out to be who he is.

496
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 5: Like he's a guy who hits a lot and doesn't

497
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,720
really do much else. I'm not sure that he's ever

498
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,559
going to score more than twenty points in a season,

499
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,759
maybe thirty, but he hits a ton, and so you're

500
00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:27,079
gonna have a decent peripheral floor there. The problem in

501
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,640
the tidy, though, is that he gets caved in, and

502
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,039
so that's why his fantasy points aren't so good, and

503
00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:34,759
I'm not sure how much that's going to improve because

504
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,519
he isn't necessarily the best play driver. I think in

505
00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:40,240
best case scenario he could be like a radical Guddas

506
00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:43,640
type who actually does have pretty good value in the tidy.

507
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,079
But I think it's going to take him a little

508
00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:47,319
bit of time to get there. Maybe he gets there

509
00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:49,759
by the end of his one hundred games, but it

510
00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:52,039
might take him a little bit longer. He does play

511
00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:54,279
on a good team, though, so that helps the Fenwick

512
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,319
and the play driving and all that. So that's something

513
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,960
to think about. But in a categories league, you obviously

514
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,319
are aware of million Bischel, and he's gonna just keep winning.

515
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,480
You hits a category of hits, so you're going to keep.

516
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:07,799
Speaker 3: Him for that.

517
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,559
Speaker 5: If you're hoping that he rounds into more than that,

518
00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:13,319
I think that you probably shouldn't be hoping that, because

519
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:15,839
I'm not sure that's gonna happen. And then Tristan Luno,

520
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:19,279
we talked about him on our previous episode. He's someone

521
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,240
who I it's interesting because last season he was really

522
00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:25,160
good in the HL. This season he hasn't scored as

523
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,359
many points, but he has been pretty decent overall. And

524
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,160
I wonder why he hasn't gotten more of an opportunity

525
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,440
because he's had just thirteen games in the past three

526
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,839
seasons in the NHL. So it's getting to that point

527
00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:39,240
where you're starting to wonder if it's ever going to

528
00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:42,039
happen for Tristan Luno. It feels to me like he

529
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,519
deserves a chance. But Anah, I'm having some pretty strong

530
00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:48,759
options back there already. Maybe they move him, I don't know,

531
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,920
but I think that he's a good asset to bet on.

532
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,920
I'm glad he wasn't the focal point of this trade.

533
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,000
I think getting left shoonoff is probably the key you

534
00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:00,039
asked if you got enough. I think that personally, I

535
00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:02,640
would have wanted a little bit more. Quite frankly, let me.

536
00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:05,519
Speaker 4: Tell you about my boy, Marcus. You're right that worse

537
00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:09,039
the first Marcus, I think a year or two ago,

538
00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:12,079
by his own admission, would have said he's just learning hockey.

539
00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:15,400
That dude is all over the place. He actually co

540
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,799
hosts Dynasty Sports Life with me. Sometimes we do these

541
00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:21,720
four sports city Blender episodes that I've talked about, where

542
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,119
we do all of the players for all four sports

543
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,400
in a particular city, and I forget what was the

544
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,440
last one we did, maybe Dallas. We might have done

545
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,880
Dallas recently, but we've done multiple Marcus and I and

546
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,480
drafted who are the top pros, who are the top prospects,

547
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,279
who are the top Bowl guys? So this guy is

548
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:41,799
really Yeah, he's climbed the ladder quickly to the point where,

549
00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:43,920
like I said, omni track, he's well in first in

550
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,400
his division and sensibly cashed in chips to get guys

551
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,799
who are scoring well over five points per game in

552
00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:54,599
the tidy format, which is a very good score for

553
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:57,839
defenseman and something that will make him competitive in these

554
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,079
playoffs and in return. The other side of this was

555
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,799
also extremely rational. Rational. Mark is taking on descending away

556
00:26:05,799 --> 00:26:08,359
two defensemen who probably are not going to be the

557
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,759
primary guys in their cities for very long if ever.

558
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,680
In Vegas and and Anaheim, there's lots of competition, and

559
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:19,440
he's taking on Lev Shoenoff alone, and then Cam York

560
00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:22,119
and basically this whole crew I think are going to

561
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,119
be good for him in the long run. He's definitely

562
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,720
in a rebuilding phase. He's definitely building up. But the

563
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:30,440
other thing is, oh Mark, he has defenceman for days

564
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,440
on that roster. If you look, he's got I don't

565
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,000
know if I've seen that many defensemen on a tidy roster.

566
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,960
He must have over ten between his miners and his pros.

567
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,000
It's it's pretty crazy. So I think that's great because

568
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:45,400
that gives more opportunities for guys to hit. He's using

569
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,039
that depth to prepare for that, because sometimes people will

570
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:52,440
discount those six spots in your starting lineup are a

571
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:55,519
significant portion. It's what that's the forty percent of your

572
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:58,160
starting lineup, and typically guys in those slots are going

573
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,759
to underperform. He's going to have perform as this goes on,

574
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,000
and then he can build the offense around it. He's

575
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,319
already got a lot of young offensive players, So I

576
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,759
really like this for both teams. I think Mark cashed

577
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:12,119
out high on a couple of guys, but Marcus cashed

578
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,599
just in time to get them to push them to

579
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,279
the next division.

580
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

581
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: I guess it just really comes down to what you

582
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,559
think of r Tim Levshunov. I'm not sure it's possible

583
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,039
you could see Cam York become as good as Erasmus

584
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:28,200
Anderson or Jacob Truba. I don't really see it for Bixler, Luno.

585
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:31,559
As you guys mentioned Luno Victor, I agree with you,

586
00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:33,440
he probably needs a trade at this point. There's just

587
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,279
so many options in Anaheim. I'm just not too high

588
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:38,799
on Levshanov myself. I just want to share a little

589
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:41,960
bit from Jeff Blaschel, who said that they were sitting

590
00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:44,759
r Tim Levschuonov down and then eventually sent him down

591
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,880
to the AHL to focus on three areas, the first

592
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,839
being puck play, absorbing contact and making the right play,

593
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,759
the second being defensive fundamentals footwork and body position, and

594
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:57,920
third shooting technique. That third one, in particular, is a

595
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,680
bit of a shock to me. I know that he

596
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,440
has and playmaking bona fides for sure, our Tim Levshunov does,

597
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,640
But shooting technique, I thought his shot was maybe good enough.

598
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,640
If you're hoping for this guy to come up and

599
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,400
be this offensive dynamo eventually, it sounds like he has

600
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,400
a lot of work ahead to get to that point,

601
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,599
and the Blackhawks have no shortage of defensive prospects to

602
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,160
throw in his path, And so I'm thinking I'm getting

603
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,799
more into the side of the NHL defenseman here. I

604
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,160
just especially where Marcus is making this move. I know

605
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,960
the Tidy managers disagree. They like that kind of glutt

606
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,119
of defensive prospects and players going back to tolpar Ufa,

607
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,200
and I like a lot of those players in specific contexts.

608
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,039
I like Lion Bisell I own in the Keepan Carlson

609
00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:42,519
Ultimate Patron Dynasty League. We're waiting for him to get

610
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:44,559
back and to give a boost to our hits category.

611
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,440
Really love that player. I've always loved Luno, I've liked

612
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:50,079
Cam York and his all around game. Not too high

613
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:52,319
on lev shutofv myself, and so I'm going to come

614
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:55,200
down on the side of Anderson and Truba here. Congrats

615
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,480
Marcus on a great season, and we're hoping for all

616
00:28:57,519 --> 00:29:00,680
the best for you in the playoffs moving forward. I

617
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,480
want to finish before we go to break here by

618
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,240
going over to Tidy or and talking about the they

619
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:08,799
call me Demelo Yellow team, which is co managed by

620
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:13,000
two favorites on this show, Pish, Anthony Piscatelli and Zudo.

621
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,920
In some context here on these two trades that we'll

622
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,119
talk about from Demelo Yellow, Zudo took over the team

623
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,319
a few seasons ago, and Pish jumped in to co

624
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,079
manage this season formidable pairing between those two guys.

625
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:27,039
Speaker 4: Upon taking over the.

626
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:30,319
Speaker 2: Team, Zudo realized he had the mid team with strength

627
00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:32,960
on the blue line and started his rebuild by sending

628
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,839
out Roman Yosi, Brant Clark and goaltending prospect Uel Blumpfist

629
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:40,440
for Leo Carlson, Lucas Raymond, Alex Texia and Nico Hesher

630
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:42,480
in an effort to get younger in the forward core.

631
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,480
They continued over the past offseason by shipping out guys

632
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:48,839
like Nazen Kadri and Darcy Kemper to acquire Alex Laferrier,

633
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,319
Matti Baniers and a top five pick which they used

634
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:54,599
to draft Caleb Danoie. So your typical rebuild of a

635
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,200
mid team.

636
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:55,519
Speaker 7: Here.

637
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: Trade we're going to talk about today. The first one,

638
00:29:58,039 --> 00:30:00,240
at least is a very simple one that will dove

639
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:02,079
tail us into the second one. So we'll roll into

640
00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:04,799
the second one here, gents, they call me Demelo. Yellow

641
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:10,039
acquires Victor Nuno favorite right winger Justin Carboneau for goaltender

642
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:13,640
Philip Grubauer from the Lazy Lightning. It's a great one

643
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,359
for one deal here. Pitton Zudo say that they like

644
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:19,119
Justin Carboneau. He's a nineteenth overall pick and having a

645
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,519
decent season in the queue. He's got a lot of

646
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:23,799
upside and could be a top six player in the NHL,

647
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:26,480
which seemed worth a goalie that they grabbed off waivers

648
00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:29,920
earlier this year in Philip Grubauer. They don't see Grubauer

649
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,759
helping their team once their players start entering their prime years,

650
00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:34,680
and as a reminder of some of their players are

651
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:39,400
Caleb Danya and Lucas Raymond and Leo Carlson's on his

652
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,480
way there. So makes sense certainly that a veteran goaltender

653
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,240
maybe wouldn't be helping them two to three years from now.

654
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,519
For the Lazy Lightning, they were looking to add a

655
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,960
goalie for the playoffs and is betting on being promoted

656
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,480
this season.

657
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:51,559
Speaker 7: Good luck to you.

658
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: So trading a prospect like Justin Carbonaugh for almost any

659
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,240
starting goalie was a no brainer to me, as he

660
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:00,240
doesn't see him contributing this season. Victor, this is your

661
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,079
opportunity time to wax poetic about Justin Carboneaugh.

662
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 7: What have you got to say about this one?

663
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,279
Speaker 5: I think this is a a great trade for getting

664
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:13,519
the guy that you need Grubauer has been extremely serviceable.

665
00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:15,880
I would say I think he's really resurrected his career.

666
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: There. There was a while there where we.

667
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 5: Were thinking, I know, on the offseason when we talked

668
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,000
to the guys over at Emerald City Hockey, we were

669
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,039
talking about how flabbergasid that they didn't buy Grubauer out.

670
00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:31,039
He's it sounded like he really wanted a chance to

671
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:33,319
prove that he can still play, and everyone was really

672
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:36,240
skeptical about that. He had been pretty bad for a

673
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,960
couple of seasons there in Seattle, but he's been really

674
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,680
good this season. He's played twenty two to the Cords

675
00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:46,799
twenty thirty three games, but he has more goals above

676
00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:50,519
expected in eleven fewer games twenty one point seven goals

677
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:55,039
above expected is Delta Fenwick is almost double and the

678
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:57,359
Cords having a good season, but Grubauer is having even

679
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,839
better season. It certainly seems like a good time to

680
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,559
to acquire Grubauer.

681
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:02,599
Speaker 3: Will this all.

682
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,599
Speaker 5: Hold into the future, I don't know, but right now

683
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,240
it's working, and that's really great value for a guy

684
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,359
who doesn't take up a minor a slot sorry games

685
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:15,480
played limit slot. So that's looking really good. Carboneau. He's

686
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:17,640
having a bit of a down season. I think everyone

687
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,519
would agree in terms of his scoring, but it seems

688
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:24,200
to me that what he was asked to do was

689
00:32:24,279 --> 00:32:27,599
be a little bit more good on all sides of

690
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,119
the puck, have a little bit more defensive acumen, and

691
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,000
he's he looks like he's been showing that. So that

692
00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:37,839
looking at his Fantasy Hockey Life skater card, his loose

693
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,039
puck recovery, his puck battles, his fenwick, his defensive prowess,

694
00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:45,200
his ability to be hard on those pucks and transition

695
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:48,000
game has all been really good. And watching him a

696
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,720
little bit, he's doing more than just speeding around defenders,

697
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:54,480
going wide and trying to score. So I think he's

698
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,599
his game is maturing. He's trying to make it more

699
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,319
pro ready. I think he got a lot of good

700
00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:02,279
feedback at the camp, and so I think that if

701
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:05,759
anyone sees this as a stock down, it might be

702
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:08,160
a good opportunity to buy him. I think he's still

703
00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:11,319
more likely a middle six forward than a top line four,

704
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,279
but I still think that it could work out for

705
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:15,599
him to play at the top of the lineup. So

706
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:18,440
I like this as a win win now a win later.

707
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:21,160
I think getting a goalie who's putting up that many

708
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,920
Fantasy points at least intermittently is really helpful. And I

709
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,839
think that Carboneau, Yeah, he certainly could be a top

710
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,160
six player for years to come.

711
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,279
Speaker 3: So I like it a lot.

712
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a people each had their own reason to

713
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,680
get it. I think Grubauer's expiry date is coming very closely,

714
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:43,799
but he is still of some value for this year.

715
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,160
So if you're going to be in the playoffs, one

716
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,519
extra out at the goaltender position makes some sense. Otherwise

717
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,160
it's a lower stakes trade to me, But Carboneaux still

718
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,480
got some potential to break out.

719
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 7: Definitely.

720
00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: Jesse and I think this it's an interesting concept on

721
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,839
what I'm about to be up here, but I think

722
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,160
this Carboneau move seems like a move towards building the

723
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,680
young incoming core, like the Caleb Dye move as well,

724
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:10,559
that will support the Leo Carlsons and the Lucas Raymonds

725
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:12,599
as they enter their prime. And it's that concept of

726
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,239
marrying the primes, right, So you have Carlson and Raymond

727
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,079
who are entering their prime, and then you build this

728
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,440
core that will start to come up and use some

729
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:23,800
of their miners' eligible games and be very good that

730
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,760
the NHL teams would say on an entry level contract,

731
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,400
we don't use contract figures and the tidy, but you

732
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,440
get to have these kind of flexible young miners players

733
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:35,679
who can be very helpful to you while you have

734
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,199
your team being led by a Leo Carlson, a Nico Heescher,

735
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,079
a Lucas Raymond. And so I really like the way

736
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:43,840
that Zudo and Pish are approaching building that team, and

737
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,280
they continue to build that young core. In this next

738
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,280
deal with the Maltese Falcons, they acquired goaltender Joshua Ravensberger,

739
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:56,679
the current Pittsburgh standout rookie Benjamin Kindall, and the kind

740
00:34:56,679 --> 00:35:01,960
of Washington standout goalie sorry prospect of Leonard. They acquired

741
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,159
those three great young players for veterans in Thomas Hurdle,

742
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,079
Connor Ingram, and Dougie Hamilton. Lots of great players here

743
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:13,400
to discuss as well. Jason from the Maltese Falcons felt

744
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,760
pretty good about his competitive roster, but if he wanted

745
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,599
a real playoff push, he had to upgrade, and that

746
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:20,000
meant cash again some of those young players, and if

747
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:21,840
he was giving up a stud like Leonard. He wanted

748
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,039
a defenseman who would be an upgrade over some of

749
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:26,920
his average three plus fantasy points per game defenseman, which

750
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,760
we've established as the average league player here at the position.

751
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,440
Enter Hamilton and the boxing match of counter offers that

752
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,159
he liked Hamilton's play at the time, especially with hughes Herb.

753
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:39,199
In the back and forth of this deal got to

754
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,960
the point where Archim Levschanov got brought into the conversation,

755
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,400
which was a step too far for Jason and the

756
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,599
Maltese Falcons. That was his only true young stud defenseman,

757
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,519
so he decided to offer up Kendall instead, and they

758
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,719
ended up landing with a classic win now versus future deal.

759
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,239
He gets hurdle Hamilton and took a gamble on Ingram

760
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:04,880
while Zudo walk away with Leonard, Kindall and Ravensburger Pish

761
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,000
and Zudo for their part. Ravensberger being a first round

762
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:10,559
goalie pick points to a high upside, still a bit

763
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:13,320
of a coin flip, and especially young in the funnel here,

764
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:16,239
he's a good pick for them. Ben Kindall having a

765
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,039
solid rookie year and his underlying metrics looks sustainable if

766
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:22,079
he stays power play too and first penalty kill. He

767
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:24,760
only needs a small uptick to be a useful forward

768
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,000
in the tidy Leonard being a former eighth overall pick,

769
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:31,320
and they think he has a point per game potential.

770
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,039
He's really the centerpede piece of this trade for them.

771
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,239
So they give up Hurdle, Ingram and Hamilton, two solid

772
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,000
veterans and a younger goalie who has potential for with

773
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,719
Hurdle and Hamilton still being productive, but they wonder for

774
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,320
how much longer they felt they had enough current and

775
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,480
minors eligible goalie depth that they can afford to give

776
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:50,440
up depth in that area. So the core pieces are

777
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,880
in place for Pitch and Zudo and they're looking forward.

778
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 7: To next year.

779
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,679
Speaker 2: So yes, a continuation of the process of putting this

780
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,000
young core in place here, and I think it's remarkable

781
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:01,840
long term planning for pitson Zudo.

782
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 7: What do you think, Victor?

783
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, this seems pretty even. I think that the if

784
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:09,840
it hits really well. I think the call Me Demelo

785
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,360
Yellow is getting some higher end pieces, but I think

786
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,039
that remains to be seen. Ravensbergen, I think certainly has

787
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:20,400
started upside. I know people are looking at a scar

788
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,960
Off is there, maybe he goes to another team, not

789
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,920
a scar Off Ravensbergen. I think that he's ways away.

790
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,559
He's got probably three or four more years, so it's

791
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:31,039
going to be a wait. But I think that he

792
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,079
has good upside, but that's a little tough to bet on.

793
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: You have Kendall and Leonard.

794
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,159
Speaker 5: I think Kendall is confusing because he hit way sooner

795
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:42,719
than everyone was thinking, and he's fitting into that roster.

796
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:46,000
Sometimes you worry about that in terms of I think

797
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:48,719
about like Matthew Poatra, who had a really good rookie

798
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,320
season and then has been floundering since. And sometimes when

799
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,239
you just try to stick around rather than really be

800
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,519
able to show all your skills, sometimes that's a little

801
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:00,679
bit tough to turn it on later. So I worry

802
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,360
that he's going to settle into just a good complimentary piece,

803
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,159
which would be not as good for his fantasy value,

804
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,840
but that remains to be seen. Leonard, I think has

805
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,960
some really good upside here. But he is on a

806
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:18,039
well on a competitive team, and he's been moved all

807
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:20,440
around the lineup, and so I think he's been interesting.

808
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,440
I was actually just looking at him for a different

809
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:26,719
article and a lot of his underlying metrics are pretty poor. Actually,

810
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,119
he's been struggling with some play driving and he's been

811
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:32,159
struggling in some areas. So maybe it's a good bylo

812
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,360
for him because I still think he can put it together.

813
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: He's still early in his career.

814
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:38,199
Speaker 5: But I think you got some really solid pieces to

815
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:40,920
bet on for the future, and what you gave up

816
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:44,519
was not that much. Hurtles a decent forward above replacement,

817
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:47,280
but he's that middle roster spot. I don't think that's

818
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,400
going to change too much. Ingram is a goalie and

819
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:55,840
Edmonton has documented struggles there. They traded one problem for another,

820
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,559
in my opinion, but he's been fine in his thirteen

821
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:03,039
appearances and he's I think Jari's the underlying numbers for

822
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:04,719
Jari have been a little bit better. It's interesting that

823
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,559
Ingram has played more games now. I think that's fine

824
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:11,320
to have. The value in Hamilton has been good recently,

825
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,639
and maybe he gets traded.

826
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:14,559
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's interesting to see what happens there.

827
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 5: But I think you've got some good win now pieces

828
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:18,920
that I think we know who that we know what

829
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,159
they are. And then on the other side, we got

830
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:23,760
some prospects who we don't know who could end up

831
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,920
being really good or could end up just being mad.

832
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:28,360
So I think that obviously that's going to sway how

833
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,880
things go, and we don't know where that is right now.

834
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,280
I think that was enough value for the guys that

835
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:36,199
were traded because they weren't like premium Masse sets, so

836
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,400
you wouldn't expect the more premium mass sets back. But

837
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,719
I think Leonard is the one you really bank on

838
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,800
because if he can be a true difference maker, then

839
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,320
I think they call me Demelo. Yellow is going to

840
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:46,800
be really happy about this.

841
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,079
Speaker 4: Another classic win now for future, and it makes a

842
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:56,920
lot of sense. Multie Falcon acquired Tom Shurtle, Connor Ingram

843
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,920
boring vet types at this point and Connor Ingram if

844
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,760
things go wrong with Trystan Jargy, you just never know.

845
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,280
Edmonton has been known to shake up their goalie situation

846
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,000
before whether Ingram would deserve jumping into the lead. It's

847
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,480
always one hot streak away and there would be some

848
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:16,159
wins to pile up there. Damello Yellow acquires three very

849
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:20,800
exciting prospects. If you ask me, Kendall has dramatically overachieved,

850
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,119
but at some point give the man a tip of

851
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:26,320
the hat and Ryan Leonard has been slow, but I

852
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,000
would want all three of these guys going forward. Then,

853
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,679
of course, the X factor Dougie Hamilton. I think I

854
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,559
don't think we talked about my Doggie Hamilton trade on

855
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,360
the last Tidy Takes. I think it's a little preview

856
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,960
for a future Tidy Takes episode. But Douggie Hamilton's an

857
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:44,880
enigma what we do with him. A traditional favorite of

858
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,920
Victor's and mine, not living that life like he used to.

859
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,280
He's got a Luke's problem, but then Luke Hues has

860
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,480
a Luke's problem too, so we'll see what this turns

861
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,239
out to be. I think there's a good defense for

862
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,599
both sides of these. I get where the Maltese Falcons

863
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:02,400
people are are maybe liking this a little bit more.

864
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,440
But these are three prospects I would love. There's so

865
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,840
many trades I've done where I would have loved to

866
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,480
get this return of three prospects. I would have probably

867
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:14,239
made this trade for these three prospects. Or yeah, these

868
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,079
three prospects.

869
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 7: It makes sense.

870
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,119
Speaker 2: You guys host the Prospects of the Fantasy Hockey Life podcast.

871
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 7: And so it makes sense that you would want to

872
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,199
do that deal. Jesse. I would too.

873
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,079
Speaker 2: I'm a big Ben Kendall fan myself. The feature of

874
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:28,800
these long term rebuilds is long wait times, and so

875
00:41:29,039 --> 00:41:31,519
we will have to just wait and see to see

876
00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:34,000
who actually wins this deal. But I think you both

877
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:37,159
are right that the value is correct on both sides here,

878
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:40,199
speaking of long wait times, we're going to ask you

879
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,639
to wait a moment, maybe not that long, as we

880
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,480
take an ad break here. You're listening to Tidy Takes.

881
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,599
Speaker 5: Ground.

882
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:04,679
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Tidy Takes here, and we're going to

883
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,519
move over to Tidy Gretzky here with a very interesting

884
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:11,360
deal involving some prospects and current pros. A few familiar

885
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,599
faces also that we've talked about here on the Tidy Takes.

886
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,320
We've got mister Puddles acquiring Daniela Yurov, who is currently

887
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,840
featuring in the top six for the Minnesota Wild, Nate

888
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,559
Danielson center prospect for Detroit Red Wings, and Barrett Hayton

889
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,840
center for the Utah Mammoth from the Portland Pirates for

890
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:32,920
right wing prospect Philip meishar Boone Jenner and Ryan Donato,

891
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,920
who are both established pro players. The Puddles was a

892
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,079
win now team having just missed the playoffs on tie

893
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:40,760
breakers and became a win next year ISH team and

894
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,719
the Portland Pirates are a playoff team, and asked about Jenner.

895
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:44,559
Speaker 7: This is your.

896
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 2: Typical youth for veteran player, and with Boone Jenner being

897
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,760
in a five points per game region and a twenty

898
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,079
thirty two ish year old UFA next season, it felt

899
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:56,039
like a good time to move off of old Boone.

900
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,760
They went back and forth a little bit, seeing similar

901
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,480
trades involving players like Jack Hymen or Victor Hedman getting

902
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:04,119
prospects like Zane Perek and Will Smith. So it made

903
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,440
sense for Boone a tier or two below those players

904
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,800
to get a mid tier prospect like Euroff, who seems

905
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,360
about a tier or two below some of those guys

906
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,079
like Zane Perek. He's not sure what Danielson's future is

907
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:17,639
in Detroit, but he has some promise. He was mostly

908
00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:19,960
excited to get Eurof. If Jennery gets pushed down the

909
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,360
line up in Columbus or signs elsewhere as a middlesex guy,

910
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,440
maybe eure off scores similar lead to him with enough

911
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,719
Caprizov exposure as soon as next year. The other pieces

912
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,400
in meshar Donado and Hayten are bodies that didn't factor

913
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,920
in too much for the Puddles Joel who is the

914
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,239
team that acquired with the Portland Pirates. The biggest team

915
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,519
that he was trying to do is get as good

916
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:41,199
a player as he could by moving out a couple

917
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:43,880
of his bottom of the roster young players. He had kindled,

918
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,599
Damidov and Nikishin stuck in his miners and didn't really

919
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:49,360
have anyone truly worth dropping to get those guys in

920
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:50,239
on the swing.

921
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 7: He had been.

922
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,079
Speaker 2: Shopping Hayten, Zeri and Cylinder around since they are younger

923
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:56,719
and having a down year. After lots of shopping, Boone

924
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,840
Jenner was the best he could find. Like you said, Jesse,

925
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,519
you take the deals that are offered to you. He

926
00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:03,519
had to make a deal to free up some roster spots.

927
00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:06,079
It wasn't the value that he wanted, but had to

928
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,159
make some short term sacrifices to try and make a

929
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:10,880
push for the playoffs, and ultimately the moves allowed him

930
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,559
the roster flexibility he needed to get those guys in.

931
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:17,159
To me, guys, it's DANIELI, You'rerov and Nate Danielson for

932
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:19,599
a busted up Boone Jenner and a replacement level player

933
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:20,519
in Denado.

934
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:21,559
Speaker 7: What do you think, Victor?

935
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 5: I think Brad's pretty clear For me too, I was

936
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,440
looking at this thinking like it's really to me. I

937
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,519
would even simplify it and say it's about Danella.

938
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: You're off.

939
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 5: He is really good looking. At his underlying metrics, he's

940
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,519
actually incredible. This is his first season. He's already at

941
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:40,559
eighty two percentile overall for offense and defense. He's an

942
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:44,199
eightieth percentile defensive player, super strong, and offensively he's well

943
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,840
above average. I don't think he's just being carried by

944
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,880
the team. The guys he's playing with. They have really

945
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,000
wanted him to play center, and I think he's looked

946
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:54,599
okay at times at center. Sometimes he struggles a little

947
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,119
bit with some of the pace, but that's understandable. He's

948
00:44:57,199 --> 00:45:01,920
playing for He's playing tough minutes sometimes. Right now he's

949
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,159
been relegated a little bit more to the middle six,

950
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,119
But I think that the early results were super promising,

951
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,599
and he certainly seems like a guy who could settle

952
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:12,480
into the to the top six. And I think that

953
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:14,760
two point seven fantasy points of all the guys in

954
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,719
this trade, I think he's the one most likely to

955
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,079
significantly increase his fantasy points per game. I don't think

956
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:23,599
that's super wild to say Nate Danielson. I've always said

957
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:26,119
he just looks like a guy. He is playing some

958
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,079
NHL games this season. I think that he profiles mostly

959
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:32,679
as the bottom six middle to bottom six center, which

960
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,360
I think will help the team. I'm not sure he's

961
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,920
going to be so interesting in fantasy. He will play games,

962
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,519
but I think in the tidy he'll probably be closer

963
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:44,320
to replacement level, maybe a little bit above that. And

964
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,880
that's really where Hayden is right Hayden has always been

965
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,360
there and I don't think that's going to change much.

966
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,360
Boone Jenner certainly has the most fantasy points right now,

967
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,000
but I think some of those concerns were voiced.

968
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: Where does he play in the lineup.

969
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 5: He's certainly playing lower and lower as they're getting some

970
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,599
of their prospects are maturing and taking more significant roles.

971
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:05,559
So I think that he's gonna, yeah, he's gonna be

972
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:09,039
a bottom six energy or matchup kind of guy. And

973
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,079
Donado and Mesha are just guys. I don't think they're

974
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:15,199
ever going to be anything more than replacement. So I

975
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,239
like the buttle side he's getting. You're off, And if

976
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,360
Danielson proves me wrong, then cool. But at least if

977
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,480
You're Off continues to trend the way he's going, I

978
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,039
think he's going to be He's gonna outpoint per game

979
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,039
Jenner at this in maybe a year or two. And

980
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:31,679
so he's the guy that I would want to put

981
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:34,440
my money on. I know he's been your guy, Jesse.

982
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,800
What what do you think about You're off here in

983
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:37,280
this trait?

984
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:41,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're off. I don't know from a fantasy perspective.

985
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:45,039
This year, he's frustrated me. I'll be honest. He's he

986
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:47,719
doesn't seem like he's putting up the numbers that I

987
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,559
was really hoping. Maybe I just have caprizof dreams in

988
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:53,199
my head from the last rushing that came over to Minnesota,

989
00:46:53,679 --> 00:46:55,599
and that's not fair to mister You're off. I do

990
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:58,719
think that side is the side that I prefer. But

991
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,320
I think we all continue to underestimate Boone Jenner at

992
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,159
our peril. I was thinking about dealing Boone Jenner in

993
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:06,119
a league this year. I think he was in the

994
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:08,880
fourth Sport league. Maybe it was the original Dynasty for

995
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,000
Fantasy hockey life. But boon Jender's not that old now.

996
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:16,760
He's playing a very physical game and he is we

997
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,559
don't know exactly how long the guy is going to last,

998
00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:21,519
but I think he's what is he still thirty two

999
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:23,039
or something like that. There could be a lot of

1000
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:25,280
years left in Boone Jenner. And when he's going, he

1001
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:29,119
is continuing to score plenty for this team. So Boon

1002
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:32,760
Jenner's not a valueless piece by any means here. But yeah,

1003
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,000
the upside of year off and Hayton still does things

1004
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,840
not quite as well as he did before. But yeah,

1005
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,280
I think it's more even probably than the vote says.

1006
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,679
But I probably side with the Puddle side.

1007
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you brought up the votes there, Jesse. Seventy five

1008
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:51,679
percent of the Tidy Manager's voted for the Puddle side,

1009
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,320
with only eight percent voting for the Portland Pirates side.

1010
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,039
Getting Boone Jenner, I think this is the perfect trade

1011
00:47:57,039 --> 00:47:58,960
to move off of a guy like Jenner, who I

1012
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,679
personally think, well, he does have some years left, he's

1013
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,400
had some injury trouble. I think you're not gonna get

1014
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,719
a full eighty two at a Boon Jenner maybe ever again.

1015
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:09,480
And to get guys so early in their funnel and

1016
00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:12,840
in their careers. Is Danieli Yarov and Nate Danielson. I

1017
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,440
think you do pretty well with this deal here. Eureov

1018
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:19,039
still has fifty games of minors eligibility left, so he

1019
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:22,039
could still be a valuable swing up and down piece

1020
00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:24,599
as well for the puddles here now despite moving on

1021
00:48:24,639 --> 00:48:27,400
from another prospect like Philip Mashar, I think that's a

1022
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,239
perfect upgrade for them. Victor, just a quick thought here

1023
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,800
on Nate Danielson. I know that we've talked a bit

1024
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,719
about how Detroit just always drafts the same kind of

1025
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,320
three C middle six guy they started with Marco Kasper

1026
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:44,239
went on with the Nate Danielson. You also have a

1027
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,960
guy like Michael Bransig newguard. But just a quick thought

1028
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,000
if you could spare it on Nate Danielson and where

1029
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,119
you see him ending up, because I personally think you

1030
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,760
look at a guy like Barrett Hayton, who's in this trade.

1031
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,280
I think that's what you're looking at for Nate Danielson

1032
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:56,639
as well.

1033
00:48:57,159 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a good comparison. One of the

1034
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,440
things that we talked about. It's funny we talked about

1035
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,119
these three guys who've all seen some games already and

1036
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:07,480
we've talked about them as better two way good all around.

1037
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,960
The reality is that they haven't been that good at that,

1038
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,119
which is like, this was your whole purpose in life

1039
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:15,320
was to do this two way thing and to help

1040
00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:18,599
the play driving. But is his first twenty five or

1041
00:49:18,639 --> 00:49:21,519
whatever games in the NHL, but Nate Danilson has been

1042
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:24,599
not great. Like his defensive metrics or forty second percentile

1043
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:27,280
offensive thirty two. I never thought his offense was going

1044
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,280
to be that good, but thought at least that he'd

1045
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,960
be significantly better defensively.

1046
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: And it's just his first few games, so maybe he improves.

1047
00:49:35,039 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 5: Forty two percentile is better than whatever ninety nine percent

1048
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,719
of the population. But I still think that he can

1049
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,840
push up, push that up a little bit. But it's

1050
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,239
interesting that he isn't already that much better defensively, so

1051
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,920
he's still got a ways to go at the thing

1052
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,159
that he was supposed to be really good at. I

1053
00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:52,840
think that you're right, he just profiles a third line

1054
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,159
center team. I think Hayden is a good example. The

1055
00:49:55,199 --> 00:49:56,639
offense has never really been there.

1056
00:49:56,679 --> 00:49:57,119
Speaker 3: Even when he.

1057
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 5: Gets put into good situations, you get excited and then

1058
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,039
realize he doesn't do anything that's probably going to be

1059
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,639
what Danielsen does. I just don't know that he has

1060
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:07,639
the offensive chops to really make all that happen. But

1061
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,519
he probably will see some good spots here and there,

1062
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:15,760
just like Hayden has. And they have options between those

1063
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,880
guys you mentioned, between Danielsen, Casper, and Brendi Nieguard. I

1064
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,119
think they probably will rotate those guys out of the

1065
00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:25,800
two s roll and see who sticks. I just think

1066
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,239
that all of them will end up being a little

1067
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,760
disappointing in terms of fantasy. I think that one of

1068
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,920
them may stick, and maybe they'll push up to a

1069
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,880
sixty ish point pace, but I'm not sure that you're

1070
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,400
still going to be that excited about it.

1071
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 7: I'm definitely not excited. Victor.

1072
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:41,679
Speaker 2: Barrett Hayden is the kind of guy, whether it's Redraft

1073
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,119
Dynasty where he's too good to be in free agency,

1074
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:45,960
but he's not good enough to stick on your roster.

1075
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,960
If that's what Nate Danielson ends up being here, I'm

1076
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,280
I guess I'm fine with that.

1077
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,039
Speaker 7: I'm happy to get to Nil Yurov. Either way, we're

1078
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:53,280
going to.

1079
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: Finish your gentlemen by looking at a couple of trades

1080
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,679
from Lord Stanley. And the only reason I'm saying a

1081
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,880
couple here is because this has been by far the

1082
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,880
most active trading division pretty much since the inception of

1083
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,920
the Tiered Dynasty, but especially this year. And it's off

1084
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,400
the back of one manager who we've talked about a

1085
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,840
lot this season, Donna Mystis, mother of Mason NHL ranking,

1086
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,280
who is staying in the tidy Lord Stanley after some

1087
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,840
great trading work and a tough start to the season

1088
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,800
and just gonna rapid fire some trades that Mystics went

1089
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,960
through here, and you can choose to talk about any

1090
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,639
of the ones that you want to before we settle

1091
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:30,000
on the final deal here, which is the big one.

1092
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 7: They that Donna made Mystix.

1093
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: And Mason combined for a trade where she sent Jonathan

1094
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,840
Lecramaki for Ridley greg That's a trade that she did.

1095
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:43,000
She also sent Away and Jay Copatar and Quinn Hudson,

1096
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:46,760
brother of Lane and Cole for Luca Morelli from the

1097
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,440
Simon Weekend At Corsi team, and then finished off here

1098
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:54,480
with a big trade acquiring Alexander Barkov, Berkeley Catton, and

1099
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:59,239
Dylan Garrand from Tidy Comish team member Pison Craftzer for

1100
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,880
Sydney Cross being Claude Drue. You might recall that she

1101
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,920
acquired Crosby from the BFFs earlier this year, so Mystics

1102
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:08,639
no shortage of wheeling and dealing here to try and

1103
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,159
improve her team looking towards the next year as well

1104
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,039
as the current Tidy playoffs. Donna had this to say

1105
00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:19,079
about the big trade, that the offer started off with Malcolm,

1106
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:22,519
but Kraftser insisted on having Crosby in the deal instead,

1107
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,199
so once Berkeley Capton offered, she agreed to the deal.

1108
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,000
Kraftsu said that he intended to move Barkov by the

1109
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,440
trade deadline, which the BFFs were certainly in on. We

1110
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:35,119
lost out here to Mystics, and so he was interested.

1111
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,119
She was interested once she felt that she had avoided

1112
00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:40,719
the relegation round. Crosby was hard to move because he

1113
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,880
is Crosby, but also he had helped her win last

1114
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,320
season to get to the Lord Stanley. But in this

1115
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,000
deal she gets a lot younger by acquiring Barkov, and

1116
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:50,079
Kraftser gets players to help him in the playoffs, which

1117
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:53,920
he needs because he is in that relegation playoff. This season.

1118
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,320
She realizes that Barkov only averages about sixty seven games

1119
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,800
per year or zero in this particular season, but acquiring

1120
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,119
Berkeley Catten helps soften that blow. She likes Catton's upside

1121
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:06,679
and thinks Seattle can use his skill set that she

1122
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,480
believes he was a surprise to make the crack in

1123
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:11,639
the season with no HL time straight out of the WHL.

1124
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:15,639
As for Dylan Garran, Quick has to retire eventually, doesn't he.

1125
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:18,880
I think it's a decided win for Donna here and

1126
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,519
all of these trades, I think, but what do you think, Victor,

1127
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,920
Anything jump out to you from Donna's trade deadline activity.

1128
00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 5: We've talked about Donna being a smart trader. We know that,

1129
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,119
and she knows the situation. She reads the room, she

1130
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,199
knows who has what and what their needs are. And

1131
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,039
you're absolutely right, Crafts are in the relegation playoffs And

1132
00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:38,800
this is just a tip of the hat for me

1133
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,480
for this format. I just love that everyone has something

1134
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:43,920
to play for, right, You either going for the championship,

1135
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,719
you're going to avoid regular relegation. So in some leagues,

1136
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,920
some managers aren't incentivized to trade, But in Tidy, especially

1137
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,199
Lord Stanley, everyone really has something to play for, and

1138
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,519
you get those teams in the middle who are safe

1139
00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:58,880
from relelegation and not winning, and they have assets that

1140
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,199
they can part with now and then get better later,

1141
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,280
and so that all incentivizes evone to have a flurry

1142
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:05,679
of trade.

1143
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 3: So I love this, she identified as I did.

1144
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 5: Alexander Barkov is someone who did not belong on Crafts's roster,

1145
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:16,519
and I try to pry him away from her from

1146
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:19,039
Kraftser as well, and I couldn't get it done. But

1147
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:22,079
kudo's to mystics for doing that, because that's exactly the

1148
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:24,320
type of player you want to target, someone who isn't

1149
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,239
going to be useful to that team now but will

1150
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,400
certainly be good later. Barkoff is the absolute perfect candidate.

1151
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,000
Probably not gonna even if he plays in the playoffs

1152
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:34,239
for the Panthers if they make it. He's not going

1153
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,000
to help your fantasy team this year, So let him

1154
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,039
go to the team who's going to get the benefit

1155
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:41,320
out of him next year, who doesn't need him this year.

1156
00:54:41,639 --> 00:54:44,679
And you know, Kraftser gets two solid pieces who should

1157
00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:47,639
really help him in those relegation playoffs this season. And

1158
00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:50,639
then Donna also gets a plus there, right grand I

1159
00:54:50,639 --> 00:54:52,880
think certainly looks like he could be a one bee

1160
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,880
or someone who could get some NHL games fairly soon

1161
00:54:56,519 --> 00:54:59,920
as Quick has really fallen off. Sister Can obviously injured,

1162
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,920
but Grant certainly seems like a decent piece there. And

1163
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,400
I love having those goalies that you can just slide

1164
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,960
in and flex up and down from the minor spots.

1165
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,599
So that's a really good acquisition. And Caden, we talked

1166
00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:13,400
about him a little earlier. He's not having the most

1167
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,880
value right now, but I think he's someone who certainly

1168
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,960
profiles that he could take that next step in Seattle

1169
00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:22,360
and be one of their top players. He really should

1170
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,960
be one of their best players, and at times he

1171
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,840
has looked like that, and at other times he's looked

1172
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,320
like a rookie who's still figuring things out. And that's fine,

1173
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,400
but that is that's a really amazing piece of work there,

1174
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,519
getting a true difference maker next year in Barkoff, and

1175
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:38,800
then someone a year or two down the road who

1176
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,400
could be one of her best players, and a goalie

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for two older guys who frankly she would have probably

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tried to move off of in the next couple of years. Anyways,

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So this was an amazing trade. It makes me mad

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because Donna's going to be a force for years to come.

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Speaker 3: And that's just the way it is.

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Speaker 4: Just as Mystics did with our reigning Tidy champion and

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NHL ranking Mason Black for thirteen years, she's taken us

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to school every day, and that is the case where

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she has and I mean that Donna with respect and awe,

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not with with bandery nor or gendered insults. This is Yeah,

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this is an excellent trade, but it is, as you say,

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a win win. Alexander Barkoff has got many years ahead him.

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Sidney Crosby, what does he have? He can't have that many,

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He just can't. Father time is catching up with him eventually.

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And Claude Jeru. So she has substantially beefed up her

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timeline for the future and sacrifice pieces that she will

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not need in the present and in fact may have

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just even as soon as next year. She may come

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out on the better side of this thing, which is amazing,

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which in which case, why would you not do it

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if you already know that you're sure to stay in

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that division. Kudos to Mistiics, to Donna.

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Speaker 2: Victor neither of us could do better than Sidney Crosby.

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I think that's a premium asset, and so good for

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good for kraftser forgetting the set that he needed for

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00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:04,719
Alexander Barkov. And just to continue the praise here for Donna,

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I think underlooked trade from US today is this acquiring

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Ridley greg for Jonathan Lekra Maki. Jesse, this might be

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00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,800
the last time you could possibly even play the Lekora

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00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,039
Maki driver recorded a couple of years ago, because it

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00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:21,480
looks like he's getting some opportunity in Vancouver and not

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doing anything with it. And if you can't crack and

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00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,800
get a good opportunity on the worst team in the

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league when you're getting all the ice time, I don't

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know if it's ever gonna happen for you. Good job

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Donna forgetting Ridley Greg who is a very important part

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of that Ottawa Senators team, and an underrated trade to

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acquire Luca Morelli for retiring and j Kopatar as well.

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So lots of great moves here from Donna. And you're

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00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,360
right to Victor, I'm afraid of what Donna's team is

1217
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,039
going to look like even next year. I think it's

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possible that we're gonna need to do some more work

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to compete, and you'll get to hear about the work

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that we did next week on the Tidy Takes. As

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I mentioned, we're going to be talking about the trades

1222
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that Jesse, Victor and myself did to retool our teams.

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Jesse in the Tidy Lemieux and myself and Victor in

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00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,800
Lord Stanley. We've had a ton of fun today thanks

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to the great Tidy managers who never failed to give

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us a ton to talk about. We're gonna be talking

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about retooling next week, and so this is gonna be

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an interesting look at how teams near the top of

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00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,039
the tiered dynasty are approaching this question of how do

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00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:23,199
you stay at the top of these leagues and for Jesse,

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00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,880
how do you become better to get to that.

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Speaker 7: Top top division.

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Speaker 2: So until then, I hope you're all enjoying the Olympic

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00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,480
fun and the break from setting lineups, and I look

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forward to us returning to your podcast feeds next week

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with more titles.

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Speaker 4: Remember Shill's brought to you by nancracks dot com place

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for years and you're like, Ah, we just can't take

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this anymore. We need to have minor league players regularly available.

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We need to have our ability to customize and make

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Who cares? Just set it up the way you want.

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You have the control, slow drafts, rookie drafts, everything fantasy

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content over there too on Fantasy Hockey and other fantasy sports.

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FHL's team. You heard Ryan our Tidy Admiral on this episode,

1248
00:59:26,119 --> 00:59:29,719
but do not forget tim Ay and Simon and Craftzer

1249
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who are doing great things over at the Tidy League

1250
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to keep these going as we get into our playoffs.

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Tony and Patrick are lead scouts. You hear lots of

1252
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,119
their reports and the reports they are angle for us.

1253
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On this episode. Brandon helps with the website prospect ranks

1254
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and visualizations. By the way, kudos to that guy. He

1255
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,199
just made a lot of cool updates. So if you've

1256
00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:53,760
been waiting for some updates in our prospect ranks, that

1257
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,840
is a good thing for you. And if you'd like

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to help the show do more cool things, Victor would

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00:59:59,519 --> 01:00:04,599
love to hear discord, email, social media, Daber Hockey, Dauber Prospects.

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Victor is an editor. He writes the column The Journey.

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01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,639
I do a solo show called Dynasty Sports Life. I

1262
01:00:09,679 --> 01:00:12,719
talk about four different Dynasty sports there. This week it's

1263
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,639
going to be some baseball prospects, because that's how your roll.

1264
01:00:16,719 --> 01:00:20,800
Sometimes during spring training the Al East Prospects with Trevor

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01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,440
Hooth of Prospects Live. Follow on social media this show,

1266
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,199
Jesse Severe and the one Victor on Blue Sky or

1267
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:34,480
on x Fan Hockey Life or Victor Nuno twelve. Thanks

1268
01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:38,079
for listening, rate and reviewers, Apple Pods, Spotify, wherever else

1269
01:00:38,119 --> 01:00:42,559
you get it. Thanks once again, the tidy rolls on

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01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,800
and until next time, I cope you keep on living

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that fantasy hockey life