Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to you Everything's Political. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Taya Shoemake. You can also find us online at Everything's
Speaker 1: Political dot substack dot com. Shout out to Magicman Joe Strecker,
Speaker 1: the Thomas Paine of podcast producers, born on this day
Speaker 1: in seventeen thirty seven. He was actually born in England
Speaker 1: and came to America in seventeen seventy four. Benjamin Franklin
Speaker 1: helped him immigrate. When he got here, he obviously became
Speaker 1: involved in the independence movement, writing his pamphlet Common Sense
Speaker 1: in seventeen seventy six, which became widely popular and helped
Speaker 1: build support for the revolution. During the war, he also
Speaker 1: served as an aide to General Nathaniel Greene, during which
Speaker 1: time he also wrote The American Crisis. And that was
Speaker 1: a series of pamphlets supporting the cause of independence. And
Speaker 1: these include the famous quote and I love it's like
Speaker 1: Charles Dickens. Everybody knows Tale of Two Cities. It was
Speaker 1: the best of times, it was the worst of times,
Speaker 1: and the American Crisis began with these are the times
Speaker 1: that try men's souls. And I'm going to continue the
Speaker 1: summer Soldier and the sunshine. Patriot will in this crisis
Speaker 1: shrink from the service of their country. But he that
Speaker 1: stands by it now deserves the love and thanks of
Speaker 1: men and woman women. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.
Speaker 1: Yet we have this consolation with us that the harder
Speaker 1: the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain
Speaker 1: too cheaply, we esteem too lightly. It's talking about cheap
Speaker 1: grace here. It is dearness only that gives everything its value.
Speaker 1: And it would be strange, indeed, if so celestial an
Speaker 1: article as freedom should not be highly rated. Folks, those
Speaker 1: words are as true today as they were when he
Speaker 1: wrote them. And it will only be with our consistent engagement,
Speaker 1: our fierce independence, and I'll add with boldness that will
Speaker 1: ensure that the path forward leads to liberty over tyranny.
Speaker 1: So let's go say, Okay, if you're a regular listener,
Speaker 1: you know that one of those paths about which I'm
Speaker 1: talking is unbridled liberty in the realm of health care
Speaker 1: and wellness. For way too long, we've had a bureaucracy
Speaker 1: and a corruptocracy, if you want to call it, that,
Speaker 1: that has hidden cures, that has softened effects, adverse effects,
Speaker 1: and basically has manipulated and created a system that lines
Speaker 1: pockets over helping Americans stay healthy. And part of that
Speaker 1: path is getting away from pill pushers. Our doctors are
Speaker 1: trained to be pill pushers. It's like now our teachers,
Speaker 1: we've turned them into administrators and indoctrinators. We've turned doctors
Speaker 1: into administrators and pill pushers. So where are we to
Speaker 1: go for education and wellness? I can tell you immediately
Speaker 1: it's home. We have to look within ourselves and that's
Speaker 1: going to be very challenging because there is a generation
Speaker 1: and I'm going to say it's Gen X, because we're
Speaker 1: next up. We're the next geriatric generation. We're going to
Speaker 1: be the guinea pigs. That is this space between pill
Speaker 1: pushing and genuine wellness. And we're going to have to
Speaker 1: be bold and brave with the understanding that there are
Speaker 1: worse things than dying, with the understanding that how we
Speaker 1: proceed will affect posterity. So toward the that end, right
Speaker 1: of getting away from the pill pushers. And look, I'm
Speaker 1: not against all medication. You guys know that on day
Speaker 1: two of ivermectin, I felt like running the Flying Pig
Speaker 1: Marathon twice, so I get it. Sometimes you might need
Speaker 1: a man made medication, but we have suffocated the idea
Speaker 1: that our immune system is brilliantly designed and if we
Speaker 1: just give our bodies, and we're all different, if we
Speaker 1: just give our bodies the right fuel and the right conditions,
Speaker 1: then it might help us prevent illness and chronic disease.
Speaker 1: That's what we're about. So again, toward that end, we
Speaker 1: have a listener favorite back with us today. He is
Speaker 1: a leading expert in integrative nutritional health and she's here
Speaker 1: to speak with us today about America's wellness and she
Speaker 1: is listener favorite, doctor Lynn Lafferty. Doctor Lafferty, thanks you
Speaker 1: so much for being on.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I really enjoyed being on your show, so
Speaker 2: thanks so much.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to dive into some of the improvements
Speaker 1: that God willing will be able to make in this
Speaker 1: nation's healthcare, perhaps even move it toward wellness, doctor Lafferty.
Speaker 1: Before we dive in, I have to ask you your
Speaker 1: opinion on Bobby Kennedy's confirmation and what are you hoping
Speaker 1: that he accomplishes well.
Speaker 2: One of the things he's talked he put in his
Speaker 2: plan that I saw is to give fifty percent of
Speaker 2: the research money to integrative natural type of medicine.
Speaker 3: And I think that's amazing.
Speaker 2: I actually write a sub stack under the stage professor
Speaker 2: and I talk about three things about NIH that gets
Speaker 2: fifty billion a year in research. I talk about one
Speaker 2: of our scientists at this the university here that I'm
Speaker 2: working gets probably in government grants, maybe twenty from NIH
Speaker 2: and maybe forty or million a year. She hasn't moved
Speaker 2: her patient care in the two diseases. She looks at
Speaker 2: a millimeter. While this other professor who should win a
Speaker 2: Nobel prize, he's an older professor and he has been
Speaker 2: a pioneer and just came out with another with a
Speaker 2: group of scientists of why the aluminum in the vaccines
Speaker 2: are causing the autism condition. But that MTCHFR it's called
Speaker 2: you have a what we call a snip, And what
Speaker 2: a snip means is that your genetics doesn't work like
Speaker 2: everyone else's. It may be slower, and there's variations from
Speaker 2: being really detrimental to maybe a little detrimental. But there's
Speaker 2: a pathway that you have to have tetrahydromethyl folate and
Speaker 2: methyl b twelve. A type of moth will be twelve
Speaker 2: different The one in the brain is different than the
Speaker 2: one in the heart, so it just methy will be
Speaker 2: twelve different types of chemical vitamins there inside. Without those,
Speaker 2: you get hyper inflammation.
Speaker 3: So we already know.
Speaker 2: You look on the website of CDC itself and it
Speaker 2: tells you that it's adding aluminum to the vaccines, most
Speaker 2: of the vaccines, and they're telling you the reason we're
Speaker 2: doing it is to hyper activate, so it goes into
Speaker 2: hyper inflammation. And because they don't have the break, so
Speaker 2: that's always been the question, Well, my kid got these
Speaker 2: vaccines and doesn't have it, so it can't be from
Speaker 2: the vaccines. But they've tested that most of the children
Speaker 2: have this problem, this genetic problem. But everybody, there's twenty
Speaker 2: five percent of a marecut that has it. And they
Speaker 2: talk about now taking B twelve and folic acid, the
Speaker 2: regular chemical type that we take that most people take
Speaker 2: from the drug store shelf, actually may cause cancer. And
Speaker 2: it says twenty two or twenty three percent of the population. Well,
Speaker 2: that's the twenty two or twenty three percent that can't
Speaker 2: methylate that stuff and convert it. That's why I've always
Speaker 2: been a pro motor and proponent of animal tissue vitamins
Speaker 2: because the animals.
Speaker 3: Are going to make the correct type of.
Speaker 2: B twelve, And like I said, the one in the
Speaker 2: adrenal plant is going to be different than the heart.
Speaker 3: And so when you get all.
Speaker 2: Those different tissues, you're going to get the different types
Speaker 2: of vitamins and the converted into their converted form for
Speaker 2: that tissue.
Speaker 1: So you'd be a proponent then of getting everything from
Speaker 1: your diet as much as you possibly can, because isn't
Speaker 1: full of acid that we take. Isn't that synthetic? I know,
Speaker 1: I know we make folate right.
Speaker 2: Right, but like a hydromethyl folate, that is the chemical
Speaker 2: that must go in to this pathway. Or you have
Speaker 2: very high homocysteine, and that especially affects the heart and
Speaker 2: the brain and causes super inflammation according to this doctor's paper, So.
Speaker 3: Everyone in America, the money.
Speaker 2: He gets the NIH should be sharing this with every physician,
Speaker 2: promoting what it means and promoting them to do a
Speaker 2: study on it. The same thing with COVID. Right when
Speaker 2: I first heard the word COVID, I went to the
Speaker 2: medical library. I pulled probably twenty studies that showed whether
Speaker 2: you had a viral infection, a bacterial infection, or a
Speaker 2: funnel infection, and you died you were low in vitamin D.
Speaker 2: So these are the types of things that we need
Speaker 2: to be talking to doctors about right now.
Speaker 3: And this is a really huge problem.
Speaker 2: The AMA and their board that approves the CME, the
Speaker 2: Medical Medical Education for doctors does not allow us to
Speaker 2: even get credit for anything that's integrative or complementary or
Speaker 2: anything like that. So so many things have to be changed,
Speaker 2: and he's the person to do it. His courage to
Speaker 2: go outside the box and look at what he's taking
Speaker 2: from his own family for God's sakes, and I want
Speaker 2: someone And you know what the way he talks about that, well,
Speaker 2: we've always been a family who has discussions and gets
Speaker 2: in fights, and we used to have that too at
Speaker 2: dinner table, you know, about politics. So he takes it
Speaker 2: on the chin with a smile and moves forward. And
Speaker 2: that's the kind of courageous leaders that we need. So
Speaker 2: I'm I'm really excited that he's been chosen.
Speaker 1: I am too. He certainly walks his talk, Yeah, he has.
Speaker 1: You know, when I grew up, the Hudson was on
Speaker 1: fire and you know, and now it's one of the
Speaker 1: most diverse ecological systems that we have. Briefly on that
Speaker 1: MTHFR is that also related? Do I recall reading that
Speaker 1: associated with miscarriages?
Speaker 2: Possibly it could be. I've never read that, so I
Speaker 2: take your word. Probably it is. It can be related
Speaker 2: to many things. You know.
Speaker 3: There's two things I tell my students.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a professor at medical and pharmacy school.
Speaker 2: I teach a lot of residents, medical residents, because if
Speaker 2: you don't remember anything else, everybody over forty, it's about inflammation,
Speaker 2: and that's the first step in your immune system. So
Speaker 2: no matter what's happening in the body, you can call
Speaker 2: it all these other conditions. And that's why I don't
Speaker 2: even really believe in diagnosis. It's more to tell you
Speaker 2: what the symptoms are. We have to look at the symptom.
Speaker 2: But and then right now, which it never was like
Speaker 2: this before, it's about how sugar's handled in the body,
Speaker 2: the diabetes and the dysfunction there, because that causes a
Speaker 2: lot of inflammation, especially in your endothelial tissue, which is
Speaker 2: what lines your blood vessels. And most heart attacks actually
Speaker 2: have nothing to do with your heart. Most of it
Speaker 2: has to do with your adrenal blands. We know when
Speaker 2: you're under most your type A and stressed out, you're
Speaker 2: more likely to have heart disease, and the adrenal blands
Speaker 2: if you are stressed out, will raise your blood sugar,
Speaker 2: you know. So there's all of those types of considerations.
Speaker 2: So this is what I'm excited about, is to be able.
Speaker 2: I have a list full of things that I'd like
Speaker 2: to see test.
Speaker 1: It is all so on top of all of the
Speaker 1: environmental stressors and maybe our personality types, we can also
Speaker 1: talk about the inflammation caused by all the synthetics that
Speaker 1: we get in our diet, right, whether it's and I
Speaker 1: would I would add vitamins into that, right because as
Speaker 1: you said, there are different types of vitamin B. There's
Speaker 1: the methyl cobolamine, and then there's the cyanide something I
Speaker 1: forget what it's called, but all I see a cyanide
Speaker 1: and iron.
Speaker 2: That's mostly what you would get in your regular pharmacy
Speaker 2: if you bought it off the shop and they have
Speaker 2: a lot of dyes, you know. I use a whole
Speaker 2: food iron product that's very light because it's.
Speaker 3: All from food from liver and greens.
Speaker 2: And stuff, And at first I have the students feel
Speaker 2: the different and then look at the side of what's
Speaker 2: in it, and all these dyets are in it that
Speaker 2: causes ADHD, cancers, whatever, And so they also add as
Speaker 2: an extra bonus to the synthetic vitamins all these other
Speaker 2: things for basically no reason. And I tell the students
Speaker 2: this is heavy, the one that you get off.
Speaker 3: The drug store shelf.
Speaker 2: And doctors will tell you a lot of times when
Speaker 2: they prescribe iron it doesn't work, I said, because basically
Speaker 2: you have an entear coated frying pant that you're trying
Speaker 2: to digest versus having the whole food. And I had
Speaker 2: a patient and she was my friend as well, and
Speaker 2: she had uterine cancer, so she was bleeding all the time,
Speaker 2: and she went to her oncologist. I had her take
Speaker 2: this food iron three times a day and he goes,
Speaker 2: I've never seen this before. You don't have anemia. How
Speaker 2: can that be when you're bleeding so much? These iron
Speaker 2: actually even works better because it's actually digested. And the
Speaker 2: other thing is you really need vitamin C or some
Speaker 2: type of acid to keylate that iron and bring it
Speaker 2: into the blood. So they have foods high in vitamin
Speaker 2: C as well in that product.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you mentioned vitamin C because I have
Speaker 1: heard the ascorbic acid that is past is vitamin C
Speaker 1: described as the envelope without a letter in it?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 1: Would that be accurate?
Speaker 2: And always kind of comes from coal tar So because
Speaker 2: if you look in nature the things the man that
Speaker 2: actually won the Nobel Prize, he was a Hungarian scientist
Speaker 2: for extracting the ascorbic acid out of paprika pepper, So
Speaker 2: peppers are very high, and we always hear vitamin and
Speaker 2: C is high and of course citrus, but actually I
Speaker 2: believe it's higher in pepper. And anyhow he extracted, he
Speaker 2: said it wouldn't help scurvy because it needs its bioflavonoids
Speaker 2: to be absorbed. And those are things that you heard
Speaker 2: about the bioflavonoids during COVID like quercetin and rootin and
Speaker 2: other things like that. So again I use whole food
Speaker 2: Vitamin Sea which has peppers and acarolla cherries, but it
Speaker 2: also has a drenal tissue and liver, because adrenal tissue
Speaker 2: uses the most amount of vitamin C in the body.
Speaker 2: So when we're under fight or flight, all of our
Speaker 2: vitamin C gets used up and the body has its
Speaker 2: own consciousness, so it can only live one week. Probably
Speaker 2: they never did a study on it, but they did
Speaker 2: it on rabbits when they took the adrenal glands out,
Speaker 2: they only could live one week. So without your adrenal function,
Speaker 2: So you know you have a hierarchy, right, you gotta breathe.
Speaker 3: You got your heartbeat.
Speaker 2: So the body is programmed that way to save itself.
Speaker 2: And so what it'll do, because cortisol also destabilizes your
Speaker 2: brain over time when it's high and it's it's supposed
Speaker 2: to be high for why you're fighting the bear, but
Speaker 2: then it's supposed to go down and crash and you sleep.
Speaker 2: So what vitamin C does it helps break down the cortisol.
Speaker 2: When I did a lot of the service people that
Speaker 2: came back after the golf War, and so they lost
Speaker 2: a lot of things like this. One young man had
Speaker 2: been hit like four times and his mother told me
Speaker 2: he broke his wrist and the doctor said, well, we'll
Speaker 2: just fix the ligaments too, but they're gone. The ligaments
Speaker 2: are gone because he's under fight or flight. So the
Speaker 2: body has to find the vitamin C and that's in
Speaker 2: collagen and elastin. Collagen is your biggest protein. And of
Speaker 2: course it takes it from your eyes and all of
Speaker 2: that those things first, because you can live without that.
Speaker 2: It's not going to take it from your ligaments first.
Speaker 2: But since it was a good supply, it must have
Speaker 2: showed that up more or something like that. So it's
Speaker 2: very fascinating. And that's why lipotore and the statin drugs
Speaker 2: they use coq ten, which coq ten is the highest
Speaker 2: amount is in your heart because it's an energy molecule
Speaker 2: and the heart uses the most energy. So I know,
Speaker 2: one day I thought to myself, well, why don't more
Speaker 2: people have heart attacks with this stuff? But then I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: the body has its own consciousness. It's eating up, it's
Speaker 2: breaking down the muscle because it's in muscle mostly the
Speaker 2: coq ten. It's breaking down the muscle in your thighs
Speaker 2: in order to get that coq ten to your heart.
Speaker 1: You know, I wish we could and I hope that
Speaker 1: we do this switch. If we're going to move toward wellness,
Speaker 1: we have to view the body. Even vitamin Let's just
Speaker 1: take a vitamin, and we think of it as a thing.
Speaker 1: But actually it's a system, right. We've got we've got
Speaker 1: cholesterol with the hormone vitamin D that that you know converts,
Speaker 1: and you need magnesium and K two, and yet there
Speaker 1: are so many different options and people don't know who
Speaker 1: to trust. I get this question all the time. What
Speaker 1: should we be looking for in our whole food? Maybe
Speaker 1: we should start by defining what whole food means, because
Speaker 1: it's not a diet. It's not a dogmatic kid of ore, carnivore,
Speaker 1: paleo whatever. But what is actually whole food?
Speaker 2: It's the whole boot, so the whole apple, it's the
Speaker 2: whole humeric tablet, not curcumin. Curcumin is a curcuminoid, which
Speaker 2: there's three hundred in that plant. So it's very disturbing
Speaker 2: to me because it is called curcuma long guys the
Speaker 2: name of it that even in research that I read,
Speaker 2: are they using curcumin the one thing or are they
Speaker 2: using the whole tumeric? And they don't really say and
Speaker 2: distinguish that in a lot of the literature. So that's
Speaker 2: that's a problem because there's a reason that I'm a Christian,
Speaker 2: that God put those in there, you know, and I
Speaker 2: you can never outdo God. And you know the amazing thing,
Speaker 2: I have the PDR, which was the physician desk reference
Speaker 2: of every product in nineteen seventy nine that was a
Speaker 2: prescription drug. And Lily Pharmaceutical made a whole vitamin line
Speaker 2: and the first thing it had in there was cow liver.
Speaker 2: And then it might add some of the extra chemical
Speaker 2: to what they call those are called fortified vitamins where
Speaker 2: they add a little extra folic acid or B six
Speaker 2: or you know whatever. But for the most part, the animal,
Speaker 2: even the plant, those are good. They're going to be
Speaker 2: absorbed better, They're going to have all the factors and
Speaker 2: all of that. But so I'm not negating that, but
Speaker 2: it would it would say a whole food vitamin C
Speaker 2: for a vegan. Let's say it might say peppers and
Speaker 2: cherry aceola, cherries and and some kind of citrus in
Speaker 2: there and by and citrus peel of the white part
Speaker 2: is where the bioflavonoids are, and so it would have
Speaker 2: probably all of those things in there. And for me,
Speaker 2: I use the ones that have the animal tissues because
Speaker 2: there was a big study like going back to the
Speaker 2: methyl tetrahydrofol like they did in Europe. It looked like
Speaker 2: it was somebody's dissertation. Actually it was a very long paper.
Speaker 2: And what they did they were looking for tetrahydro methl folate.
Speaker 2: So they looked in mixed vegetables there was none. They
Speaker 2: looked in oat flour, there was none. They looked in
Speaker 2: milk with a tiny bit, but when they went to
Speaker 2: a pig liver there was a whole bunch of it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I.
Speaker 1: Know, and we will direct our listeners to doctor Lynn
Speaker 1: Lafferty dot com on that site. And I also want
Speaker 1: to talk before we end about your webinar coming up.
Speaker 1: Is there a list or is there a reference of
Speaker 1: here's what we can be looking for if you're looking
Speaker 1: for a whole food vitamin or even a rubric that
Speaker 1: says do I need it? I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people take handfuls of supplements and I don't like to
Speaker 1: do that either. I try to do it with the
Speaker 1: food that I eat. And maybe this is a good
Speaker 1: parlay into checking ourselves, whether it's with blood markers or
Speaker 1: whether it's how we're feeling or inflammation that we notice,
Speaker 1: and that being having that direct us to any supplements
Speaker 1: that we may take.
Speaker 2: So one of thea you can see and people are
Speaker 2: always saying to me, my whole food vitamin C. It
Speaker 2: says sixteen milligrams of vitamin C on it.
Speaker 3: Because the FDA.
Speaker 2: So what the FDA did back in the thirties, they
Speaker 2: you know, this was a whole plan. They dumbed everything
Speaker 2: down to the least common denominator. So they did the
Speaker 2: same thing with vitamins and minerals. You know, we want
Speaker 2: to have the one ingredient that's the vitamin not have
Speaker 2: you know, have to have this big desiccated adrenal gland
Speaker 2: let's sen So one of the ways you can see
Speaker 2: is if it has a very high dose and it
Speaker 2: says five hundred percent or something like that, because nature
Speaker 2: is always going to give you what you need in
Speaker 2: the form that you need it. And what they do
Speaker 2: is they take a very high dose of one thing,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people with vitamin C.
Speaker 3: So people will come to me and say, well.
Speaker 2: You know, you say this about vitamin C, but you
Speaker 2: know I take high doses. I take two thousand milligrams
Speaker 2: and it works for me. I don't have a coal
Speaker 2: And I say, I'm sure it does, And why does
Speaker 2: it work for them? What I believe is our digestive track.
Speaker 2: And this is so important because our digestive track has
Speaker 2: eighty to eighty five percent of our immune system, and it.
Speaker 3: Has to be acid.
Speaker 2: It's two in your stomach, then it goes to five
Speaker 2: point five in the upper gi all the way down
Speaker 2: to six at the lower gi and your colon and
Speaker 2: your bowl, your bowl, and so it's all all the way.
Speaker 2: It's a city. And so by giving that high dose,
Speaker 2: the SAD diet, the standard American diet is actually basic
Speaker 2: to that, to the coalon. So you're giving high doses
Speaker 2: of aspirin or I'm sorry of the ascorbic acid, and
Speaker 2: you're now your bacteria, which play a big part, are
Speaker 2: thriving down there because they love acid and the negative bacteria.
Speaker 2: It's we went. I had a group of students and
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about this in my free webinar
Speaker 2: this Sunday. Because there isn't an autoimmune disease, I mean
Speaker 2: the way they're describing it. You know. My first lesson
Speaker 2: to my students, I say, okay, let's go to Harvard
Speaker 2: and let's look up rheumatoid arthritis and it says, oh,
Speaker 2: it causes all this pain and it just gets worse
Speaker 2: and your joints fall apart. You know, all this stuff,
Speaker 2: and it says, oh, and we have no idea, it's
Speaker 2: an autoimmune we have no idea what causes it? Really okay, well,
Speaker 2: let's go to our own medical library PubMed here, which
Speaker 2: is an American database. Are the ones that is the
Speaker 2: gold standard, and oh, there's four hundred studies. They tell
Speaker 2: you the etiology meaning the cause of rumantoi earth race
Speaker 2: is your gut bacteria.
Speaker 3: So what we did was we.
Speaker 2: Went through all the autoimmune disease and we found out
Speaker 2: which bacteria. Sometimes their viruses, but we just went through
Speaker 2: the bacteria for this lesson. We did. It took six
Speaker 2: weeks where we found which went through all the studies,
Speaker 2: found which bacteria causes what. And then I said, let's
Speaker 2: go find what pH they thrive in. And they all
Speaker 2: thrive in a basic seven or aboven and your yeast
Speaker 2: thrive in a basic your vagina should be acidic. And
Speaker 2: you know, actually one day I said, well let's look
Speaker 2: up sprum. I wonder what pH they and they're basic
Speaker 2: and that's why a lot of women get yeast infections
Speaker 2: after they have sex.
Speaker 3: And that's why they used to.
Speaker 2: When I was young, they or I was in pharmacy
Speaker 2: school in you know, nineteen eighty seventy nine, they were
Speaker 2: telling us, oh, just use yogurt to pack it. You know,
Speaker 2: of course you weren't playing yogurt not sweetened or just
Speaker 2: use you know, the vinegar douche was the big thing
Speaker 2: to make it acidic. And we make in our compounding
Speaker 2: pharmacies we may work acid topository, which is the exact
Speaker 2: pH that what your vagina should be.
Speaker 3: So pH is everything.
Speaker 2: You won't even hear natural practitioners talk about all of that,
Speaker 2: but it's really it's really true, because all these people
Speaker 2: are out there promoting drinking basic water, and it's not
Speaker 2: a good thing unless you need your stomach to be
Speaker 2: more basic, which actually most people need it to be
Speaker 2: more acidic.
Speaker 1: Yes, I read recently that the cause of what we
Speaker 1: think is good or reflux is not too much acid
Speaker 1: but not enough acid.
Speaker 2: Correct most of the time. That's right, and is also
Speaker 2: as we age. So you know, let's say we're you know,
Speaker 2: we're twenty, and we have a lot of stomach acid,
Speaker 2: but we also have a lot of bycarb, right, and
Speaker 2: so what happens as we age it goes down, but
Speaker 2: actually the bycarb goes down more and becuse I thought
Speaker 2: about this, Okay, we don't have enough asset, but people
Speaker 2: do get relief from the proton pump inhibitors right for
Speaker 2: at the beginning, and then if they try to take themselves.
Speaker 3: Off without I take so many people.
Speaker 2: If anybody's been on those, the package inserts has more
Speaker 2: than two, you shouldn't be on there for more than
Speaker 2: two months unless you have something called Bart's esophagitis.
Speaker 3: That's even in their own literature.
Speaker 2: So if you've been on there for eight years or something,
Speaker 2: you really need to get yourself off from that. They
Speaker 2: cause everything from more broken bones to Alzheimer's and stuff.
Speaker 2: So you just really don't want to be on these.
Speaker 1: And so just so we're clear, you mean a proton
Speaker 1: pump inhibitor is like a zantac or a tagament or
Speaker 1: those are h two blockers.
Speaker 3: I me, you probably shouldn't be on those as long.
Speaker 2: But there it's like a nexium or a meprazol or
Speaker 2: prili sec or those. Yeah, But what it does is
Speaker 2: so when you lower it, you're putting it in equilibrium,
Speaker 2: but you still don't have enough stomach acid to break
Speaker 2: down that steak. So what you need to do is
Speaker 2: take digestive enzyme.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you bring up the acid versus base
Speaker 1: the environment in our bodies because I know we need
Speaker 1: an acidic digestive track. But you do hear that chronic diseases, cancer,
Speaker 1: for instance, can't survive in an alkaline environment. Is that accurate?
Speaker 2: I don't really know if that's accurate or not. Okay,
Speaker 2: I know they do feed off sugar for sure, and
Speaker 2: it probably does become acidic down there. But you know,
Speaker 2: like with every disease, the diseases are well, I want
Speaker 2: to say no really, because I'll tell you why. No
Speaker 2: disease is caused by the same thing. That's another lessons
Speaker 2: for my students. I know, we can have five people
Speaker 2: that were treating for high blood pressure and guess what,
Speaker 2: They're all going to get the same drug to start
Speaker 2: off with. But this person might have theochromocytoma, which is
Speaker 2: a tumor on your adrenal blend. Or another person may
Speaker 2: have had a head injury in their pituitary is now dysfunctional.
Speaker 2: Another person could have clogged blood vessels. Another person drives
Speaker 2: in Miami at eight o'clock in the morning an hour,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's stressed out. So no two people
Speaker 2: are alike. Now where drugs come in wonderfully. So I'm
Speaker 2: not against drugs, is you know, if somebody has really
Speaker 2: high blood pressure and comes in my office, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to think, oh, are you makingnesium defision or are
Speaker 2: you this? Or could it be that. I'm going to
Speaker 2: send them to the doctor to get them on a
Speaker 2: drug so they don't have a stroke. But then that's
Speaker 2: where integrated messine comes in, is let's see what you're doing,
Speaker 2: and it's about the changes you have to make. I
Speaker 2: can help you. The supplements can help you to help
Speaker 2: you make those changes. Because I have so many doctors
Speaker 2: sending me patients to get the people off the proton
Speaker 2: pump inhibitor, but I have to have them stabilized on
Speaker 2: some kind of digestive enzyme, and a lot of times
Speaker 2: I'll use I'll get a prescription for them of the
Speaker 2: proton pump inhibitor in it had the compounding pharmacy make
Speaker 2: it so it's a solution so they.
Speaker 3: Can very gently.
Speaker 2: It took me one time two years to get one
Speaker 2: lady that had been on for twelve years off altogether
Speaker 2: her proton pump inhibitor. So you do it just very
Speaker 2: judiciously while you're getting the digestive enzyme so they don't
Speaker 2: have that reflux. And putting them also on gel of
Speaker 2: alo vera, you know, and put it in the refrigerator,
Speaker 2: because they sometimes get like that. They'll get the rebound asset,
Speaker 2: which is worse than the original acid they had from
Speaker 2: the wh if you stop on willy nilly and I
Speaker 2: use that because that really sues and cools down all
Speaker 2: of the potential for that the alo Vera does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the gel, the gel, that's fascinating.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the organic brand. They have it at Walmart.
Speaker 2: It's pretty inexpensive. We have a great brand here called Stockton,
Speaker 2: but it's fifty dollars and I don't think they ship
Speaker 2: it out of Florida because it's so expensive.
Speaker 3: It's frozen to ship.
Speaker 2: But it's a specialized type of alo It's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Doctor Laffertye. Why when we talk about certain things,
Speaker 1: whether it's a treatment, whether it's additives, all of this thing,
Speaker 1: we can look at the world and we can say
Speaker 1: Europe does not allow glc esates. For instance, they don't
Speaker 1: spray their wheat. That's what everyone says. And you know, hey,
Speaker 1: I go to Italy, I eat pasta and bread, and
Speaker 1: I'm fine, what is the mechanism or the group or
Speaker 1: I mean, I can go to corruption, that's my go to.
Speaker 1: How did we end up allowing ourselves to be poisoned?
Speaker 2: So your show is everything's political, which you're one hundred
Speaker 2: percent right, but also everything spiritual, because I really don't
Speaker 2: even know if these people are human. You know, you've
Speaker 2: probably seen Seventh Generation is a laundry detergent or something.
Speaker 2: They sell it at Whole Foods. By the way, I
Speaker 2: make no money promoting any product, but that name comes
Speaker 2: from the fact that the Native of American said, never
Speaker 2: do anything into your environment that's going to hurt seven
Speaker 2: generations ahead. And for these well to allow these things
Speaker 2: into and love putting them in, it has to be spiritual.
Speaker 3: Are they human? Are they drunk a lot?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean it's mind boggling to me
Speaker 2: because you love your children. I mean that's the natural
Speaker 2: way that God promoted women to have something called oxytocin
Speaker 2: when they get after they have the baby, because it's
Speaker 2: like the love molecule to bond and love that child.
Speaker 2: You know, I just can't even imagine what is in
Speaker 2: these people that they do this.
Speaker 3: Because there's no reason for it.
Speaker 2: Like you say, fruit loops. If you go to England,
Speaker 2: it says cherry deuce and all of this, and ours
Speaker 2: has red dye number four and yellow number three and stuff.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I think it's spiritual.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's a great point. You know, just
Speaker 1: like in any chronic disease, you could probably trace it
Speaker 1: back to a deficiency right in the body. And I
Speaker 1: think I think a lot of these people just have
Speaker 1: a deficiency of Almighty God and and and this is
Speaker 1: why I'm excited about Bobby's confirmation is that a he
Speaker 1: walks his talk and has for a very long time
Speaker 1: at a very high cost. He calls that the you know,
Speaker 1: the vaccine fight the worst career decision he ever made,
Speaker 1: which is hysterical.
Speaker 2: I'm obviously personal because a lot of his family have
Speaker 2: come out really hard against.
Speaker 1: Yes one percent. Although I will say this, Maria Shriver
Speaker 1: quote tweeted Caroline's you know, scathing letter or whatever it
Speaker 1: was and talked about courage, but then turned off the comments. So,
Speaker 1: you know, the inconsistency reigns with these folks. But I
Speaker 1: am excited to get someone who I believe genuinely has
Speaker 1: the best interest in wellness and moving things toward wellness.
Speaker 1: I feel like we don't have a system of healthcare.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a system of death care, absolutely.
Speaker 2: And it's just stealing as much of our resources we
Speaker 2: call it money, but as much of our resources against us,
Speaker 2: you know. I see it in the medical school. I
Speaker 2: feel so bad for these kids. They're getting no education.
Speaker 2: And a lot of them come to me. They know it.
Speaker 2: They go, you know, I just spent twenty five years
Speaker 2: of my life studying my butt off, spend a million
Speaker 2: dollars and I don't know anything. Or I worked with
Speaker 2: a group of psychiatry residents and we were doing a
Speaker 2: mindfulness I was teaching them mindfulness and the first question
Speaker 2: I asked, I go, what does it feel like when
Speaker 2: you walk in the door. And the first girl said,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm going to kill somebody with these drugs.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what they do. And they all
Speaker 2: said that, So imagine that you've just you know, you
Speaker 2: have this desire. Really most of them, some go in
Speaker 2: for money and prestige. But for the most of them,
Speaker 2: they really want to go in and help people. And
Speaker 2: you're spending all your time and all your life, and
Speaker 2: then you come out and all you know is what
Speaker 2: the pharmaceutical companies have put in this curriculum. And people also,
Speaker 2: they'll get really mad at the doctors. They'll say, oh,
Speaker 2: they go on these golf trips, and oh, not anymore.
Speaker 2: They don't have to. They somehow bought off the curriculum
Speaker 2: people at the top, and they put these courses in
Speaker 2: where they don't understand medical physiology.
Speaker 3: I almost started crying.
Speaker 2: I was listening to this one resident I was teaching
Speaker 2: last week, and he was saying to this other doctor
Speaker 2: who was trying to get his child in medical school,
Speaker 2: but he didn't really want to take biochemistry.
Speaker 3: And he said, oh, he should go to such and
Speaker 3: such school.
Speaker 2: I didn't even need biochemistry, and he was proud that
Speaker 2: he didn't need to.
Speaker 3: Know how the body worked chemically.
Speaker 2: I mean, so, it's such a sad state of what
Speaker 2: people are in and then they give them biggie goes,
Speaker 2: you know, so that oh I went to Harvard and
Speaker 2: these doctors that I learned from were the best.
Speaker 1: It's really a travesty because the whole the faith in
Speaker 1: the whole system depletes, much like you know, and I
Speaker 1: was red pilled decades ago on politics. Just like if
Speaker 1: someone says the honorable so and so, I mean that
Speaker 1: to me is the opposite when I see that, Like, no,
Speaker 1: you're honorable if you honor your oath and do what
Speaker 1: you said you were going to do in toward the
Speaker 1: end of that oath, which is to keep us free,
Speaker 1: to weigh our own risk, to own our own healthcare,
Speaker 1: our own wellness, et cetera. It's frustrating. I saw the
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen the clip of the
Speaker 1: young singer Avery. I'm not familiar with her, but she
Speaker 1: is has to be in her twenties, very young, and
Speaker 1: she is breaking down on camera because she went on
Speaker 1: OZMP for a year and she was just diagnosed with
Speaker 1: osteoporosis osteopina if I'm accurately pronouncing that, but obviously bone
Speaker 1: density issues. And I mean she's in her twenties and
Speaker 1: she realizes now that she has just destroyed her body.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know where to go with that doctor,
Speaker 1: because you know, at firsthand, I think, well, doesn't that
Speaker 1: wouldn't that doctor say, hey, let's try this first.
Speaker 2: People don't even know how. They don't even read packaging inserts.
Speaker 2: They don't even have journal club anymore where they have
Speaker 2: to learn to read journals. I mean when I went
Speaker 2: to school, I took two years of biochemistry a year
Speaker 2: of physiology. When I walked in University of Georgia Pharmacy school,
Speaker 2: they said, look to the left, look to the right.
Speaker 2: One of you'll be plunked out. And we're like, really,
Speaker 2: we've got three point seven averages and calculus and physics
Speaker 2: to get in here in organic chemistry. But my physiology
Speaker 2: professor flunked a third of the class out. There were
Speaker 2: three of us that lived together, and one of the
Speaker 2: girls she tried three times. You got three chances to
Speaker 2: pass a course if you missed, and three times she
Speaker 2: flunked it. Because my teacher taught us that the body
Speaker 2: is logical and how the one system affects the other.
Speaker 2: I was telling because I have to find like functional cardiologists.
Speaker 3: And things like that for my patient.
Speaker 2: So I was telling this functional cardiologist from Miami, who
Speaker 2: actually is a cardiologist at the best cardiology hospital in
Speaker 2: the South in Miami, and on the weekends he's a
Speaker 2: hospitalist cardiologist, but on the weekdays he does zoom meetings
Speaker 2: and does the functional cardiology.
Speaker 3: And I said, you know, my.
Speaker 2: Teacher asked this question if you have Addison's which means
Speaker 2: a low adrenal output, which will mean low salt, low sodium,
Speaker 2: high potassium. I didn't tell him that part, but what
Speaker 2: happens to the QRS wave in your heart? And he's like,
Speaker 2: you were asked that when you were like twenty in
Speaker 2: pharmacy school. I said yeah, And I said, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I got it right. But what I
Speaker 2: do know is anybody that ever comes to me and
Speaker 2: says I'm having an ablasian, I have a fib or whatever,
Speaker 2: I said, let's trust the adrenal gland. And one of
Speaker 2: my friends who was a manager at a CBS pharmacy
Speaker 2: and loss of stress, and I said to him, let's
Speaker 2: test your adrenals. And the cortisol was so high that
Speaker 2: they didn't even couldn't even measure it. When it's high,
Speaker 2: went straight across. Your cort is all supposed to go
Speaker 2: like this. It went straight across and it was at
Speaker 2: maximum that they measure, and I gave on fossil title
Speaker 2: seering and whole food vitamin C brings it down and
Speaker 2: brought it down and he said, oh, I don't my
Speaker 2: heart is not doing this anymore. But he said, I'm
Speaker 2: going to go get the ablacion anyway. I said, oh, please,
Speaker 2: don't do that, please, Well you don't need it. No,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go get it. Well, the doctor botched it.
Speaker 2: He handed up in the ICU at a hospital and
Speaker 2: then he got out of the hospital. Then he was
Speaker 2: put on all this medicine and within one year he died.
Speaker 2: And he was only fifty years old. So he went
Speaker 2: from being this really very very fit. He went to
Speaker 2: the gym almost every day, and he had such a
Speaker 2: positive attitude about life to dying.
Speaker 3: And it's so sad.
Speaker 2: And in the literature, if you put a drenal an
Speaker 2: a FIB, it'll say, yes, cortisol and the epinephrine are
Speaker 2: causes of a fib, and let's look at that first
Speaker 2: before they put you on these blood thinners and want
Speaker 2: to do cut your per hingy fibers, you know, or
Speaker 2: burn them.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just a vicious cycle. And I and
Speaker 1: you can almost you know, point to the trajectory of
Speaker 1: someone that starts down a path, whether it's a statin.
Speaker 1: I mean, statins have crippled and caused neurological decline, and
Speaker 1: so many older people that I know, and then people
Speaker 1: who are my age, you know, telling me then oh,
Speaker 1: my doctor put me on a statin, and you know
Speaker 1: you and you share the information to the best of
Speaker 1: your ability. But I think we're at a crux. We're
Speaker 1: almost at the tipping point, and unfortunately I think it's
Speaker 1: gen x. We're going to be the guinea pigs right
Speaker 1: because I don't trust a lot of doctors anymore than
Speaker 1: I would trust a politician. Where would you advise people
Speaker 1: to go if you know, if I'm sick, I'm calling you.
Speaker 1: Where can people go to find someone that is as
Speaker 1: knowledgeable as you that understand? Is there a network?
Speaker 2: Well, I recommend going to the older doctors. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm sixty six so or I will be next week.
Speaker 1: So I was fantastic, By the way, thank you because.
Speaker 2: You got to feed your good food, you know, salmon,
Speaker 2: sakky eyed salmon that makes my kid so soft, and
Speaker 2: you have thank you. But and you can see I
Speaker 2: can move my you know, I can move, so I
Speaker 2: haven't been shot up with any votulism toxic. I found
Speaker 2: I had the pharmacology book from nineteen. It was written
Speaker 2: in nineteen, published in nineteen seventy six, and I found
Speaker 2: my notes, and I have a big note that says
Speaker 2: botulism talksin is the most dangerous toxin in the world.
Speaker 2: And I said, imagine if my nineteen and my twenty
Speaker 2: twenty self went to myself, and when I'm sitting there
Speaker 2: and going hey, and by the way, they're going to
Speaker 2: be shooting that in their face when they're twenty so
Speaker 2: they don't have a wrinkle, I would be like, you're crazy,
Speaker 2: get out of here. Nobody would do.
Speaker 3: It's toxic, and I'm seeing that detriment.
Speaker 2: I used to have these two sisters that were in
Speaker 2: their sixties and I said, listen, I get you balanced out,
Speaker 2: and then you go shoot that stuff in your face,
Speaker 2: and then you come back to me sick again.
Speaker 3: And to the point where I just gave up.
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I try this doctor, because
Speaker 2: I don't have anything else for you. I don't, you know.
Speaker 2: And I see these people and they look I remember
Speaker 2: this one TV, so.
Speaker 3: I forgot what I saw.
Speaker 2: And I always thought she was like fifty with botox
Speaker 2: in her face, and then when she said, oh I'm
Speaker 2: twenty eight, I'm like, holy kle, you're making yourself look
Speaker 2: fifty like a boat. And then all of those Kardashians
Speaker 2: having it in their face. Yeah. Everything just it's just
Speaker 2: one big commercial of trying to get people to say,
Speaker 2: you know, wrinkles are beautiful. And the cholesterol information, a
Speaker 2: lot of it is not even true. The largest study
Speaker 2: in the history of the world is called Framingham and
Speaker 2: it says in there and the man that was the
Speaker 2: head of cardiology at Yale, who is the head of
Speaker 2: framing Ham for different part different years, said women with
Speaker 2: two thirty to two sixty cholesterol have fewer heart attacks
Speaker 2: and stroggles lower And we used bile salts, which is
Speaker 2: cow from a cow, their bile, because that is what
Speaker 2: lowers your cholesterol in your body.
Speaker 3: And a lot of times it's just that.
Speaker 2: Your bile deficient. And it still works because I still
Speaker 2: use that to lower people's cholesterol.
Speaker 3: They want.
Speaker 2: Garlic lowers your cholesterol, fetigrade lower's cholesterol. So there's so
Speaker 2: many things you can do if you want to lower your.
Speaker 1: Cholesterol well, and you also have to figure out what
Speaker 1: is caused saying the overproduction of LDL. Right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is accurate or I'm explaining
Speaker 1: it the right way. LDL is actually the transport system.
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 2: Well, there's one type of LDL that's been implicated in
Speaker 2: heart disease. When you look in the literature basically what
Speaker 2: people are worried about, I'm going to have a heart
Speaker 2: attacker stroke. Right. When you look in the literature for that,
Speaker 2: you find that HDL has the most literature, and it
Speaker 2: tells you the higher HDL actually protects you from getting
Speaker 2: heart attacks. So you want that to me in lowering
Speaker 2: your I think your triglycerides, because that is the sugar
Speaker 2: and can cause the thecation and the damages. Those are
Speaker 2: the two things I look at. And then there's one
Speaker 2: type of LDL. They some doctors do it. There's seven
Speaker 2: different types and you can see if you have that
Speaker 2: one type that's high.
Speaker 1: And so is that a marker on blood work that
Speaker 1: you look at the triglycerides or the fasting glucose or
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have but I'll tell.
Speaker 2: You more important than the glucose. I do a salida
Speaker 2: test and I like to look at the insulin because
Speaker 2: when I got out of school, I had two patients
Speaker 2: with type two diabetes and they were both in their seventies.
Speaker 2: No one my age had tyto diabetes or any autoimmune condition.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I did know one kid when I was little that.
Speaker 2: Had siliac, but other than that, I didn't know anybody
Speaker 2: that had any of these diseases. So now I have,
Speaker 2: you know, thirty year olds twenty five come in with
Speaker 2: MSS with rumatoid arthrite. The reason I got my job
Speaker 2: a two year old when she was two she got
Speaker 2: diagnosis rumatoridathritis. So I always started when she came to
Speaker 2: see me. She was two when she was diagnosed, age
Speaker 2: ten pregnant, zone was given so much she had bleeding ulcers.
Speaker 3: Time.
Speaker 2: At fifteen, she had a tumor the size of a
Speaker 2: grapefruit from Metho truck shake and Yumera, and both of
Speaker 2: those say they can cause cancer. Thank god it was
Speaker 2: in cancer was just benign. And at seventeen when she
Speaker 2: saw me, her wrists and her shoulder had fused together
Speaker 2: and she could hardly walk. And eight months later she
Speaker 2: came to this university that I got. I'm a dow
Speaker 2: professor and they said, what happened to you? I didn't
Speaker 2: even know she came here because I was an adjunct
Speaker 2: faculty at the time. And she said, oh, look, I
Speaker 2: can do jumping jacks now I don't have rheumatoria arthrias anymore.
Speaker 2: And they're like, do you think your doctor would come
Speaker 2: and do grand rounds? And so the two of us
Speaker 2: did grand rounds together, and even from nineteen seventies they
Speaker 2: had publications that implicated gut bacteria. And then my boss
Speaker 2: at the time no I had a new boss coming.
Speaker 2: She's older than me, and she said that in the
Speaker 2: seventies she was a pathologist, and she said, we used
Speaker 2: to could do all sorts of cool things. We used
Speaker 2: to punch biopsy the nodules. She goes, linn, there's all
Speaker 2: sorts of bacteria down there. And the people that get
Speaker 2: the autoimmune diseases are mostly women over fifty were the
Speaker 2: ones who got all that. And the reason they got
Speaker 2: it is because your hormones play such a huge role
Speaker 2: in the immune system. And that's why they give pregmozone
Speaker 2: because premozone is cortisol cortisol.
Speaker 3: But what they do they take.
Speaker 2: Your own cortisol structure and then they might add a
Speaker 2: chlorine on it, or a or a methyl group or something,
Speaker 2: and then they call it methyl pregnis alone or whatever
Speaker 2: that's but it's it wouldn't work in the body if
Speaker 2: it didn't hit a receptor that was in the body,
Speaker 2: and it thinks it's the cortisol from your own body.
Speaker 3: So they told me at this point when I.
Speaker 2: First started, don't use desiccated adrenal, which I used so
Speaker 2: much of it. But my doctor when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: when we were sick, he always gave us a shot
Speaker 2: of testicated a drenal tissue. And I remember when I
Speaker 2: was little, if I got sick, I'd go to my mom,
Speaker 2: Can I go get a shot?
Speaker 3: Can you imagine?
Speaker 2: Because it made you feel so that, Could I go
Speaker 2: get a shot from doctor Trink I didn't know what
Speaker 2: it was, and he'd give us liquorice tablets. Well, licorice
Speaker 2: kills so many bacteria, h pylori, it kills, covid, all
Speaker 2: of these things, and he knew this. He graduated in
Speaker 2: eighteen ninety seven and had Sigmund Freud as a professor.
Speaker 2: So when I was little, he was in his eighties
Speaker 2: and he was old. But you always felt better from him.
Speaker 2: So the older doctors had all this wisdom. But what's
Speaker 2: happening today. I find with the younger people getting the
Speaker 2: auto immune diseases, they've all been on antibiotics as kids.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I had chronic ear infections.
Speaker 2: I'm probably had an antibiotic for five years of my
Speaker 2: life every other month or yeah, I lost my tonsils
Speaker 2: and up till the point, I was always sick and
Speaker 2: had antibiotics all the time. You know, so the antibiotics
Speaker 2: destroyed the good bacteria in the gut, which also fight
Speaker 2: off the bad bacteria. And may also I never looked
Speaker 2: at this change the pH. Probably, I don't know that
Speaker 2: it does that. I'm not going to say it does,
Speaker 2: but I would. I would guess it probably changes it
Speaker 2: into a more negative pH too.
Speaker 1: That makes so much sense. So I have two questions.
Speaker 1: Number One, after your treatment or work with this two
Speaker 1: year old that came to you and then they are seventeen.
Speaker 3: She was seventeen.
Speaker 1: She was seventeen.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, And the thing when I started my presentation,
Speaker 2: I said, okay, how many of you in this audience
Speaker 2: believe that two years old? Her her body said, you
Speaker 2: know what, I just don't really like those joints. I'm
Speaker 2: just going to go attack him and make it my
Speaker 2: life miserable. How many do you think that's what the
Speaker 2: body does And all of a sudden like this light bulb. No,
Speaker 2: I don't think the body does that. And the older doctors.
Speaker 2: I had an older doctor. Just one last point. I
Speaker 2: had an older doctor come in here that I'm very
Speaker 2: good friends with because it's rheumato. He's a rheumatologist. He
Speaker 2: actually sends me all the patients said don't take drugs.
Speaker 2: He sends them to me, and he says, don't cure
Speaker 2: everyone save me.
Speaker 3: But anyway, he.
Speaker 2: Said, oh, I'm here getting my shingles shot. Are you
Speaker 2: getting a shinos shot? I looked no.
Speaker 3: He said why not? I said, he's my age.
Speaker 2: I said, Mark, let's take you back when you were
Speaker 2: thirty or thirty five. I said, if someone had shingles,
Speaker 2: what did you think, And he goes, oh, always would
Speaker 2: be worried they had cancer. I go, yeah, I never
Speaker 2: saw anybody with shingles. Maybe an eighty year old would
Speaker 2: get it, but I never You don't see anybody with
Speaker 2: shingles who aren't immune compromised. Now, all these people getting
Speaker 2: the shingle shot. My nephew and his wife are in
Speaker 2: their twenties and have shingles. Yeah, that's oh no, I'm
Speaker 2: not getting the shingles shot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I get into discussions that the main ones that I
Speaker 1: have with others and only because they ask me, are
Speaker 1: the statins and shingles, those that in the shingle shot.
Speaker 1: And of course, to your point, the immune system lowers
Speaker 1: when the gut bacteria is compromised.
Speaker 2: There's all these what I call natural immune builders, and
Speaker 2: they do the b cells in your body. They make
Speaker 2: antibodies when they're exposed to something. So when you take
Speaker 2: their certain type of mushrooms or different plants and they
Speaker 2: all work differently and animal tissue, that will greatly increase
Speaker 2: when you get sick those immune factors.
Speaker 3: So literally the.
Speaker 2: Vaccine isn't stopping you from getting it. What it's doing
Speaker 2: is when you're exposed to it, it's recognizing it and
Speaker 2: you're hoping that it's strong enough to go in and
Speaker 2: take that coronavirus or that influenza virus out. That's why
Speaker 2: they put the aluminum adveraget in, because the more inflammation
Speaker 2: you have, the more factors you're gonna get that really
Speaker 2: got hit bad, horrible, to the point where she fell
Speaker 2: down because she couldn't walk. And it wasn't Gillian Bray,
Speaker 2: thank god, with the high dose because she's sixty five.
Speaker 2: They give you the high dose blue vaccine and that inflammation.
Speaker 2: Her whole body went into inflammation and she ended up
Speaker 2: having to have a big spinal surgery because of it.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't it was because the vaccine. Actually, it
Speaker 2: kind of was a good thing for her because she
Speaker 2: had this stenosis inner back, which is a narrowing of it,
Speaker 2: and her spinal cord now is hitting that and they
Speaker 2: had to go in and do surgery right away because
Speaker 2: you lose so when the spinal cord hits the bone
Speaker 2: of your cage, your spinal cage there. So anyway, but yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's what they're trying to do with the HD vaccines.
Speaker 2: They give you a high dose of it so that
Speaker 2: you'll get more inflammation and it'll be stronger.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I didn't have COVID. I took zinc.
Speaker 2: And my immune builders and then for two years I
Speaker 2: didn't get it.
Speaker 3: So I started giving that stuff away.
Speaker 2: People get sick, and I give it even when you're sick,
Speaker 2: you should take the vitamin D in the zinc And
Speaker 2: so I got it, but it only lasted a day.
Speaker 2: I took my aldaberry and I took my immune builder,
Speaker 2: and it was I had it for a day.
Speaker 1: To your point, anyone can act I think, to any
Speaker 1: virus or medication. You know, we're all going to act
Speaker 1: differently because we're all different. What seemed to be the
Speaker 1: theme with spike, whether it was encountered from the labor
Speaker 1: or in the shot, was that it seems to find
Speaker 1: an exploit or create a weakness. So if you had
Speaker 1: a weakness already existing in your body, that at least
Speaker 1: the reports and that's just completely anecdotal. You know, if
Speaker 1: you had some issue before you got the shot, it
Speaker 1: was exacerbated afterwards. And same with the virus, but the
Speaker 1: body seemed to clear it out to that degree. And
Speaker 1: I just and I wanted to circle back to the
Speaker 1: seventeen year old and you you know, after she was
Speaker 1: improving and you were asked to do grand rounds, do
Speaker 1: you think that you would be asked to do those today?
Speaker 2: Oh? No, yeah, that the rheumatologist I told you, he
Speaker 2: actually now is chief of medicine and he had me
Speaker 2: present on all the natural anti inflammatories, and he gave
Speaker 2: me the best letter I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3: He's a very open.
Speaker 2: Person because he was a cardiologist, and he actually took
Speaker 2: four years off to be with his kids when they
Speaker 2: were in high school, just because he had he was
Speaker 2: so busy when they were growing up and everything. So
Speaker 2: he did that, and he wrote a nutrition book on
Speaker 2: heart nutrition and for teenagers nutrition, and so you know,
Speaker 2: he's more out of the box thinking. I guess, I
Speaker 2: don't even want to call it out a box. He's
Speaker 2: more national thinking logic.
Speaker 4: Yes, interesting, Yeah, so no, he gave me the most
Speaker 4: amazing and all of those internal medicine doctors were very
Speaker 4: interested in that.
Speaker 2: But you know there's some I was friends with the
Speaker 2: chief of medicine before, and he helped me come in
Speaker 2: here even and I said to him, he said, well,
Speaker 2: you know, you have to look at the literature.
Speaker 3: I said, well, just because you haven't.
Speaker 2: Read the seven thousand studies on to American inflammation doesn't
Speaker 2: mean they don't exist. It means that you've never pointed
Speaker 2: anybody to look at those for you, or for you
Speaker 2: to look at it. So I said, there's in the
Speaker 2: whole adage. Oh, there's no research on this. There is
Speaker 2: research on it, I said to doctor latipowe Here. I said,
Speaker 2: you know, I said, if I went in, the first
Speaker 2: thing I really would love to do in the government
Speaker 2: is to get a supercomputer to look at is there
Speaker 2: any difference in an end of ten patients, a thousand
Speaker 2: patients or ten thousand patients, because the only people that
Speaker 2: can afford they say there's this big difference. And I
Speaker 2: don't even like the statistics that they have. The way
Speaker 2: they process it, I think is total bs, I said.
Speaker 2: And I said, what difference does it make if nine
Speaker 2: people get healed, nine hundred get healed, or nine thousand,
Speaker 2: ninety nine get healed. It's there is no variance of that,
Speaker 2: I said. And so he started looking at older studies.
Speaker 2: He goes, wow, there was only thirty five people. I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: because the pharmaceutical companies weren't trillionaires. They got five dollars
Speaker 2: for their drugs. Not you know, there's one drug two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars a dose for RA and
Speaker 2: that same ingredient that's in that is in my little
Speaker 2: pill of anterior pituitary duangel or I have and those
Speaker 2: pills each are probably I don't know, forty nine cents sorts.
Speaker 1: Wow, unbelievable. You know, when I hear you talk about
Speaker 1: autoimmune I think of evolution. Oh, two bacteria got hit
Speaker 1: with lightning in a mud puddle and out we crawled.
Speaker 1: And when you were talking about do you think that
Speaker 1: the immune system just woke up one May and said
Speaker 1: I am going to attack my heart. I'm going to
Speaker 1: attack my thyroid. What would your advice be to someone
Speaker 1: that's been diagnosed with autoimmune.
Speaker 2: To take my course and come to the I have
Speaker 2: a course that I have online. I have free courses
Speaker 2: on the immune system with one of the internal Mussin
Speaker 2: doctors I work with. That's in the book one hundred
Speaker 2: Bust Doctors in America, And there's other free courses also
Speaker 2: on there. And then I have a course and by
Speaker 2: the end of the course, honestly and mostly it's women,
Speaker 2: of course, they take it. And it's twenty it's ten sessions,
Speaker 2: twenty hours of information. You get booklets on how to
Speaker 2: prepare your own herbal remedy. You get booklets on food,
Speaker 2: all the foods, and you also get refrigerator lists like
Speaker 2: you want vitamin more vitamin A in your diet. You
Speaker 2: put it on your refrigerator and you can see all
Speaker 2: the foods that are high in vitamin A or vitamin
Speaker 2: D or whatever. So all of that is included. You
Speaker 2: get other videos of me and my kitchen making different
Speaker 2: recipes at different types, using different equipment like a juicer
Speaker 2: or a mixer or whatever, blender, and I made it
Speaker 2: very inexpensive. If it's one hundred and fifty dollars, and
Speaker 2: if you put hero in because you're a hero, you
Speaker 2: get another twenty five dollars off from that course. So
Speaker 2: I'm doing that because I want people to empower themselves.
Speaker 3: Listening to CNN watching the.
Speaker 2: Clock at death, wait a minute, No matter what, whether
Speaker 2: it's chemotherapy, antibiotics, or whatever, it's your body ultimately that
Speaker 2: heals you. Maybe it kills some of that tumor so
Speaker 2: the body can work better. Maybe it kills some of
Speaker 2: those batteria off so the body can its own immune
Speaker 2: system can work better.
Speaker 3: But it's your own immune system.
Speaker 2: It's always your own immune system that's going to save
Speaker 2: your life. It's not the drugs they're gonna help, but
Speaker 2: it's your own immune system. And the most important thing
Speaker 2: is building that up, then you don't have to worry
Speaker 2: about all the rest.
Speaker 1: Empower empower our own immune systems. And that's at doctor
Speaker 1: Lynnlafferty dot com and I so appreciate your time today.
Speaker 1: I have one last question before we break. I've gotten
Speaker 1: a lot of emails about the recent news of alternative
Speaker 1: therapies for cancer with the anti parasitics be it Ivermected,
Speaker 1: fenn Ben or men Bend does all I know doctor
Speaker 1: Pierre Corey, They and Paul Merrick have a have a
Speaker 1: new group where they're studying cancer as a metabolic issue
Speaker 1: versus an actual cell issue. And I've not gone down
Speaker 1: that rabbit hole, but I do know that it is again.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're on the tipping point of maybe
Speaker 1: new things emerging. What is your opinion on that?
Speaker 2: My opinion is I went to the literature and I
Speaker 2: you know, because I was hearing that, and sure enough,
Speaker 2: they did reduce cancer in some people. But it goes
Speaker 2: back again to what you and I first started with.
Speaker 2: Not everybody they can call it bleoblastoma, I guess, but
Speaker 2: not everybody.
Speaker 3: It's not from the same thing.
Speaker 2: And everybody I found where cardiac glycosides actually are killing
Speaker 2: viruses and killing cancer. And I remember the NIH put
Speaker 2: a lot of money back in the seventies that cancer
Speaker 2: was caused by viruses.
Speaker 3: Then they said, oh no, no, nothing.
Speaker 2: To look at here, which probably means, yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: of them are caused you can buy more. A lot
Speaker 2: of them are caused.
Speaker 3: By viruses, you know.
Speaker 2: So so it may work for you, you know, it
Speaker 2: may not work for you. It may be, for instance,
Speaker 2: you're hitting getting hit because you're working with some toxic
Speaker 2: chemical that's a carcinogen every day.
Speaker 3: It could be from that, you know.
Speaker 2: It could be that your immune system is decimated because
Speaker 2: you're taking a bunch of drugs.
Speaker 3: It could be.
Speaker 2: So you can't say it's from I don't think you
Speaker 2: can say cancers from one thing. But you know what,
Speaker 2: those drugs don't hurt you, So why not try it?
Speaker 2: I've thought, and I'm gonna I need to call my doctor.
Speaker 2: I want to get a one hundred of the lowest
Speaker 2: dose of digitablus to take it for a virus, because
Speaker 2: it says it kills every virus and the ones that
Speaker 2: are caused. It looks like Leo's blastoma, for instance, is
Speaker 2: caused by a virus. I met a group of people.
Speaker 2: They were doing lots of studies at good universities on
Speaker 2: a homeopathic, because the pills of digitalis you get are
Speaker 2: almost a homeopathic, they're so low because they it is
Speaker 2: a poisonous plant. So I don't ever try to make
Speaker 2: because I teach people how to make some of their
Speaker 2: own formulas, but you don't want to try it with these.
Speaker 3: With these plants.
Speaker 2: And then it was a homeopathic of oleander, and which
Speaker 2: is oleander, and they had said that, yeah, they were
Speaker 2: having amazing results on bleoblastoma with that product. And this
Speaker 2: time I got sick over Christmas and a lot of
Speaker 2: people I went to New York and the people I
Speaker 2: went with, they were sick for a week. I got
Speaker 2: sick for a day and I did. I took my elderberry,
Speaker 2: but also took my which has a cardiac like aside
Speaker 2: in it too, as does hydroxychloroquin not as potent probably
Speaker 2: as the oleander and the digitalis. But I took the
Speaker 2: online the homeopathic of the only end or, so that
Speaker 2: may have been a big help too. But the one
Speaker 2: that they were studying, the FDA made them stop bringing
Speaker 2: it into this country. So hopefully there's a lot of
Speaker 2: things like that that'll be immediately or pretty quickly changed.
Speaker 1: Well, and I appreciate your response to that, and I
Speaker 1: think that's the point. You know, nothing is necessarily a
Speaker 1: silver bullet for the general population, because we're all so different.
Speaker 1: We should have the freedom to try without our government
Speaker 1: or three letter agencies shutting down those options. And I
Speaker 1: remember in goodness, late seventies or eighties, and I didn't
Speaker 1: come to understand or or see the videos until probably
Speaker 1: the nineties, but Stanislav Berzinski had a breakthrough treatment anti
Speaker 1: neo clast in therapy for the blastoma, I believe, and boy,
Speaker 1: they shut him down. They rated his office the FD
Speaker 1: because he wasn't he didn't give him the patent right.
Speaker 1: So that to me, that was the beginning of my
Speaker 1: red pilling on the healthcare And you know, hopefully to
Speaker 1: your point, Bobby will open that those options up and
Speaker 1: at least open up the transparency of any patterns that
Speaker 1: emerge that show this works for generally here. But again,
Speaker 1: we should all have the right to try.
Speaker 2: The thing is is, like I've said, it's from different reasons.
Speaker 2: Uh so, but you know what, not one medical student
Speaker 2: would tell you that because they're programming them with it's
Speaker 2: caused by this, and this drug is what you're going
Speaker 2: to give. You know, that's basically what they're they're programmed with.
Speaker 1: They're taught to check a box, right, ask questions and checkboxes.
Speaker 3: And they took anatomy.
Speaker 2: I was getting my injected yesterday with PRP, which is
Speaker 2: my own protein, which has my own healing factors to
Speaker 2: heal my knee, and they I said, you know, they
Speaker 2: don't take a name.
Speaker 3: They're like telling me the difference. I'm like, oh, is
Speaker 3: that that nerve? They go, yeah, it's blah blah blah nerve.
Speaker 2: And that's what I never was great at remembering every
Speaker 2: single thing in anatomy. But anyway, I said, you know,
Speaker 2: they took anatomy out and they're like, yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: out of the curriculum. It's horrible. The doctors were saying that,
Speaker 2: So why would a doctor? I said, well, why would
Speaker 2: a doctor need to know that about different nerves? And
Speaker 2: I would tell you how the body works chemic, biochemically
Speaker 2: or physiologically.
Speaker 3: You know, just shut shut the front door and do
Speaker 3: what we tell you.
Speaker 2: And and and then we're going you've got that million dollar,
Speaker 2: You got that million dollar debt that we won't let
Speaker 2: you go back, so you're forced to work. You know,
Speaker 2: that's what Obamacare did. It just it just was the
Speaker 2: total corporate takeover of the doctors of our whole medical system.
Speaker 2: So now they all have to go work for corporations.
Speaker 2: And they're told they can't even give magnesium to patients
Speaker 2: at some of the hospital systems, you know, it's too dangerous.
Speaker 2: Only the cardiologists may touch that. And the cardiologist my
Speaker 2: brother had, who was all Ivy League educated, didn't even
Speaker 2: understand magnesium.
Speaker 1: You know, I said when when fed ED was so pervasive.
Speaker 1: You know, we've turned teachers and doctors into box checkers
Speaker 1: and administrators or and doctrinators. So where are the people
Speaker 1: to go for health care and education? And the answer
Speaker 1: has always been ourselves, And so toward that end, I don't.
Speaker 3: Tell us the answer.
Speaker 2: You're amen.
Speaker 1: Amen, Well, and I appreciate doctor Lyn Lafferty doctor Lynlafferty
Speaker 1: dot com. I so appreciate being on again with us.
Speaker 2: I hope your people will come to the free webinar
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Just go to my web, myweb doctor Lynlofferty
Speaker 2: dot com and just clicking on the button and you'll
Speaker 2: register and we'll be sending you a link.
Speaker 3: On Sunday how to get on.
Speaker 2: So we look forward to seeing everyone and you also,
Speaker 2: and they can ask questions afterwards about their health, so
Speaker 2: their own health.
Speaker 3: And I'll try to answer as many as I can.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. Well, we'll continue to encourage people to see that,
Speaker 1: and can't wait to see what.
Speaker 2: Of course I teach you how to read medical literature
Speaker 2: and how to investigate these things yourself, because all you
Speaker 2: really have to do is you put Google scholarly and
Speaker 2: it will bring you to a lot, not as much
Speaker 2: as I have access to, but it'll bring you to
Speaker 2: the PubMed I like Science Direct because they're from Europe
Speaker 2: and they don't have the political bias that PubMed does
Speaker 2: with all the pharmaceutical and they use studies from China
Speaker 2: and India and from Germany where herbs our prescription medicine,
Speaker 2: so all of these great studies from other countries. If
Speaker 2: you put wormatroidath rice and gut back here, I think
Speaker 2: like forty seven hundred studies pop up.
Speaker 1: And now so yeah, wow, okay, well I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to that and again can't thank you enough until I
Speaker 1: hope you'll come back and we'll always talk about amazing
Speaker 1: things until then, God speed. Thank you, doctor Lynn Lafferty. Everyone, Wow, Joe,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you like to see her in the new administration? Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone for listening. Thanks as always
Speaker 1: to magic Man Joe Strecker. Until next time, who will
Speaker 1: stand at either hand and keep the bridge with me?
Speaker 1: Have a great day.