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<v Speaker 1>At least on the right side of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's gonna be as I have pointed out each

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<v Speaker 2>and every day, and I feel I feel like a

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<v Speaker 2>broken record saying it. It's what possible insanity could strike

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<v Speaker 2>us today and every day where I'm like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>there it is. There's the there's the hand grenade rolled

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<v Speaker 2>into the room. We get done with the show we're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, believe it or not. Ross and I have

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<v Speaker 2>other duties, uh than just the three hours you hear right,

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<v Speaker 2>You've got production and we got and then obviously show

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<v Speaker 2>prep for the next day, and that takes place in

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<v Speaker 2>the evening and and and you know, you like to disconnect,

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<v Speaker 2>you like to have that window.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just things are too crazy right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And so like every day this week, I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, we when we're done with the show,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe one of the last conversations Ross and I'll have

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<v Speaker 2>is you know about oh this, uh, what are they

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do with Tulci Gabbard? What are they gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>with this? And then we go and and then whatever

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about, you like, yesterday was the heg

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<v Speaker 2>Sas stuff and everyone I'm like you're settling in for

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<v Speaker 2>a long day on Twitter watching people lose their minds

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<v Speaker 2>over military tattoos. All those are white supremacist tattoos. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, uh, I think some guys at the one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred first or eighty second or whatever. I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know his division, but I like, you can look

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff up. You can lay There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that rolls over and they're like, oh, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>Latin on that tattoo on his chest.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, uh, listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Point Dexter, who thinks you're better than everyone because you

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<v Speaker 2>have a Yale degree? Never mind he has Princeton and Harvard.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get your degree. Got a little Latin on there?

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, if you if you don't want to, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to avoid Latin reaching your pocket, do you

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<v Speaker 2>have any rectangular green things in there?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Man covered in Latin?

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<v Speaker 3>Give me that?

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<v Speaker 1>So what what like that? Yesterday was supposed.

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<v Speaker 2>To be the bone that the dog that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the outrage left was gonna chew on and he's an

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<v Speaker 2>afterthought and I don't know, I don't know, And we'll

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<v Speaker 2>break it down. Man, I don't know if we're dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with some super duper four D chess here I have

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<v Speaker 2>went in a lot of different directions. Ross and I

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<v Speaker 2>had to have some conversation off the air about this yesterday, like.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up with the Gates thing?

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<v Speaker 2>And I wrote, Now, I did tweet about this, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of you were like, oh, why are you trying

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<v Speaker 2>to hamstring his administration? What I wrote and it said,

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<v Speaker 2>Gates is no somebody talked to him, and I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>happy to be wrong. But then the question becomes is

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<v Speaker 2>Gates it is the nomination Matt Gates, the Florida congressman,

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<v Speaker 2>really a nomination for attorney general because you could when

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<v Speaker 2>it was first announced, you could make a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>different arguments. Right, there's the nefarious arguments where they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing it because they were going to release a

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<v Speaker 2>report about him being a naughty boy, if you remember

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<v Speaker 2>they had they were accusing him of sex trafficking, among

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<v Speaker 2>other things. And the problem is the same people accusing

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<v Speaker 2>him of the same Russia collusion people, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump, you know, promoting all of Donald Trump's prosecutions.

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<v Speaker 2>So pardon me if I don't necessarily buy into the narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree that Matt Gates probably likes to party,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's a younger dude down in Florida, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if this is just about embarrassing him, that's not gonna work.

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<v Speaker 2>Now if you've got actual details on this stuff. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all for investigations with the members of Congress being

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<v Speaker 2>out there, but it matters how investigations get going too.

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<v Speaker 2>So an argument could have been made that the Gates

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<v Speaker 2>appointment was not one where they intended to get them through,

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<v Speaker 2>but rather to distract from everything else. So they have

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that that was an acceptable theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I'm sitting there and I am.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry Abouston, Paul, we'll talk about football. Maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not so like I get that, but also why would

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<v Speaker 2>you do that? And then you know the answer to

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<v Speaker 2>that would be he's he's got somebody else he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pull out. Gates will still get a gig, but it

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<v Speaker 2>won't be Attorney general.

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<v Speaker 1>But then and then as I.

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<v Speaker 2>Go throughout the day, I don't think they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>appointment hearings on a lot of these. I think there

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be one of these a holes on Twitter running

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<v Speaker 2>around telling you they know everything and oh wait till

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<v Speaker 2>you hear who they're gonna be the FBI director. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't tell you. I'm just so smart, I'm so connected.

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<v Speaker 2>I must have blocked fifty of those a holes yesterday, people,

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<v Speaker 2>probably including people who might listen to this show, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just done with that. The one thing that Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of rewarded is that behavior. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>of a better way to do it necessarily. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>saying for me, I hate that. I hate it, and

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<v Speaker 2>now people do it just for the monetization of it.

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<v Speaker 2>When when Thomas, sorry, when Thomas Massey is sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>and they try to shove a microphone in his face

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<v Speaker 2>as he is, you know, moving around there, Oh what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think of this? What do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 2>And he literally had this answer ready to go in

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<v Speaker 2>his brain. In fact, let me, I'm gonna play the

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<v Speaker 2>audio for you. I start to think that it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not like a distractive tool, but rather they want

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<v Speaker 2>to put Gates there. Don't get me wrong, Gates has

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<v Speaker 2>this is a dude. A lot of it's spurred on

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<v Speaker 2>by what he feels is his own persecution. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>he told him, he's like, when Trump's in. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>say when he was in, but back in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, when Trump's in, We're gonna get receipts on

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. We're gonna look at all of these

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the ways in which you pushed along these

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<v Speaker 2>investigations where people who are now media members like Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>Weissman and others who are just horrified, who at the

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<v Speaker 2>time were special prosecutors and were coordinating with the FBI.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you remember that that guy who was rewarded

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<v Speaker 2>of the chief promoters of the Russia Gate thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when you see when you see people, when you

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<v Speaker 2>see people flailing their arms, man, it warms my heart

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<v Speaker 2>with cats like that, And I look, I I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need them drug into courtrooms where they hold back a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of the evidence and all the rest of us, like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's far more important if there's if the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>five people going to prison or.

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<v Speaker 1>A case that is so.

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<v Speaker 2>Out in the open with all the details that a

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<v Speaker 2>judge finally says, look, we're not able to prosecute, however

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<v Speaker 2>it exposed is the apparatus of the quote unquote deep state,

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<v Speaker 2>or at the very least, people who use their positions

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<v Speaker 2>of power to persecute their political enemies. I am I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in tier two. I'd hope we could do both. But

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<v Speaker 2>if some absolute slime balls have to walk free, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>their career will be ruined. But it gets us so

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<v Speaker 2>that we can see the scope of the rot. I

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<v Speaker 2>will yield on that side, and Gates has said that's

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my problem with Gates.

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<v Speaker 2>For all of you who just assume that I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>secret Illuminati deep state guy. Okay, it was like three

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<v Speaker 2>of you, but you were very vocal. I let me

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<v Speaker 2>ask you a question. What do you think is the

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<v Speaker 2>most important appointment selection that Trump will make? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think is the most important I And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's take vice president out of this, because that's its

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<v Speaker 2>own thing, right, and that's more of a campaign thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that I think Vance is. I think Vance is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that really when you get in there,

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<v Speaker 2>because let's face the vice president sometimes they do stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They do have some nice digs in the Georgetown area. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that.

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<v Speaker 2>The most important especially for what Trump is hoping to

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<v Speaker 2>accomplish and the story of what brought him here, is

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney General. Does anyone want to argue that point being

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<v Speaker 2>the most important job, the most important job that he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to appoint for his attorney general. I was super

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<v Speaker 2>excited to hear who that was going to be. And

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind there was one parameter, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want somebody who's in who's in the club

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<v Speaker 2>now they're going to know each other. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>just the casualty of big you know, a big tent,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak. And I mean in politics, at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, if you're at the national level,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you're more state oriented, eventually you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>cross beams there in DC. But as a member of

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<v Speaker 2>Congress or a former member of Congress, you can make

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<v Speaker 2>the argument that it'll be easier for him to sift.

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<v Speaker 2>I make the argument that no matter who it is,

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<v Speaker 2>the Virgin Mary herself, if she did a couple terms,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more comfortable with somebody who's not been a member

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<v Speaker 2>federal agencies, and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A certain purity test. I hear you.

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<v Speaker 2>I want somebody who no favors are owed to. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And as independent as somebody can claim to be, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really hard. It's really hard to shoot your buddy, not

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<v Speaker 2>actually shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just be.

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<v Speaker 2>Clear here, but you know what I'm saying. So I

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<v Speaker 2>want that no holds part things. So when I heard

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Gates, I you know, people object.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, he's he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Raping teens, and yeah, you know that's those are the accusations.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the trafficking accusation. Although I've read like two or

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<v Speaker 2>three ways and them trying to explain what they're accusing

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<v Speaker 2>him of, and I don't understand it. It smells a

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<v Speaker 2>lot like the Trump stuff. But we'll see, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we won't, because that's the other theory. The reason they

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<v Speaker 2>did the Gates thing is because that he can resign

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<v Speaker 2>and then this and then they can't release the report,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he can come back as congressman because he

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<v Speaker 2>was re elected. And admittedly I have there are very

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<v Speaker 2>few good sources on how this plays out on that

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<v Speaker 2>Floorida thing, right, you could you can trust what the

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<v Speaker 2>Governor's office is saying. But then, of course, because they've

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<v Speaker 2>learned nothing, every single legal pundit on you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream media is like, oh no, they can't, they can't,

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<v Speaker 2>and it'll be a constitutional crisis. And the problem is,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't listen to any of you because you're all

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<v Speaker 2>full of crap. Almost nearly everything you said, everything you

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<v Speaker 2>said when you were doing legal analysis about things having

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<v Speaker 2>to do with Trump is bs, provably bs and don't

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<v Speaker 2>tell me, well, Leticia James got the thing. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of Americans, including Democrats in that list, think

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<v Speaker 2>that what happened up there in New York was lawfare.

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<v Speaker 2>three or fifty six percent of Democrats believed that those

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<v Speaker 2>The different almost all the like eighty percent Republicans, which

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So we know all of these things, so excuse me

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<v Speaker 2>if I don't take your advice. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the Gates thing is. But then we hear this

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Reporter comes over and he's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>Day radio program. They're banging out the email to day

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, you want to be on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to talk. I'm very curious what people think

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<v Speaker 2>of the Gates thing. This is a safe place. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a safe space in case there's any moon bets.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a safe space. Ross has puppies, ice cream,

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<v Speaker 2>Can we agree that Gates doesn't get by on a

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's done. So I I don't know the answers to this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm curious what you think. Why do you think

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<v Speaker 2>Gates goes in there? Did you want somebody from outside

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<v Speaker 2>they recess, he probably is. But a lot of this

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<v Speaker 1>Here is a feederman.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just point this out and this almost nobody

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<v Speaker 2>you have a reporter that didn't balance their inputs. They

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<v Speaker 2>have two inputs on a morants. Sorry, the radio guy

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<v Speaker 2>in me is losing my mind. How do you send

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who doesn't understand how to do that because

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<v Speaker 1>Disgusting all right, anyway, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it's I would describe it as God to

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<v Speaker 6>to own the lives in perpetuity.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that a Republican pundit on Twitter could

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<v Speaker 1>And instead you got.

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<v Speaker 2>To go to h you know, the Pennsylvania Uncle Fester

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<v Speaker 2>has good policy ideas, because that's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing I appreciate about Fetterman, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of part of his attitude, is he's not blind to

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<v Speaker 2>Maher too much credit because he can he'll put his

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>But like like Fetterman record and and and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>all of these Democrats and Republicans and one side's doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>They they this is.

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<v Speaker 2>What this is what irritates me about the club up

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<v Speaker 2>the club is they recognize this, but they can't help themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>They got to hold a press conference and they got

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<v Speaker 2>to go you know, Chuck Schumer and Nancy you got

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<v Speaker 2>to go out. Oh, we're like your parents, we can't

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<v Speaker 2>it just irritates the crap out of me. So I

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<v Speaker 2>can appreciate people like Fetterman who don't seem to have

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<v Speaker 2>Massey on the other side, right, but also both of

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<v Speaker 2>them can be trolling right now. This is what is

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<v Speaker 2>so wild about this. So I'd love to hear you

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<v Speaker 2>weigh in. And by the way, on the retirement from Gates,

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<v Speaker 7>Think to us he issued his resignation letter effective immediately

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<v Speaker 7>But I asked him what the reasoning was, and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 7>DeSantis in Florida and said, let's start the clock. He's

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<v Speaker 2>Right so when that's why he said there's two theories,

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<v Speaker 2>always trying to cover up this, but also the GOP

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be full force to hit it because remember,

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<v Speaker 2>they wasted. The thing that killed me about both Obama

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<v Speaker 2>a party would do that, especially after you just spend

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<v Speaker 1>But what why would you?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, about some of the stuff that Doge

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<v Speaker 1>Ross.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a point where that won't be funny and

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<v Speaker 2>make me laugh when I say it?

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<v Speaker 8>I me, and I still find it funny. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I hope not. I hope it has to be funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But then they get some serious thing. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're paying uh, you know X number of dollars to

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<v Speaker 2>murder kittens, right, Like, I don't want to. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to inadvertently laugh when we're slashing the murder kitten fund.

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<v Speaker 2>So for the murder squirrel fund, we got an update

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<v Speaker 2>on that story. So what do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh is?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and I'm sorry I left out I oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>would have been bad. Did you hear the most insane

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<v Speaker 2>theory on the Gates thing?

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<v Speaker 1>This is good? This is shed fact.

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<v Speaker 2>The Gates thing is a distraction, but it's a distraction

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<v Speaker 2>from the alien testimony, and the alien testimony is a

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<v Speaker 2>distraction from the asteroids coming to kill us right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And Trump knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Had you heard that one? Apparently Ross has?

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<v Speaker 1>How excited were you over the alien stuff?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Like super excited? The first Ian to do it.

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, you know, watching all the Gate stuff,

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<v Speaker 8>and then I ran across Georgio Sukalos, and he just

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<v Speaker 8>you know, don't want to say I told you so,

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<v Speaker 8>But I told you so?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh did you Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, so I just wrote noise, just retweeted his tweet.

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<v Speaker 4>And now that it makes more sense, right, did.

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<v Speaker 2>You even know asteroids were coming to murderers?

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<v Speaker 2>Now are the aliens here to stop that? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of premises of sci fi it'say, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>It was Hollywood. The aliens would be here to save

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<v Speaker 8>the planet and not the people on the planet. That

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<v Speaker 8>is a very fair point. Yeah yeah, And then they

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<v Speaker 8>would put Keanu.

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<v Speaker 2>Reeves in a role that made me almost not want

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<v Speaker 1>How bad was that movie?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they had Kathy Bates in it too. Was awful?

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<v Speaker 2>What was Kathy Bates?

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<v Speaker 8>She played like some sort of government official. She might

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<v Speaker 1>No, she was like a scientist at like some government agency.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's been so long, I'll never watch it again

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<v Speaker 2>to confirm what the answer is. But you know that's

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<v Speaker 2>out there, all right, So let's see here. Yeah, let

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<v Speaker 2>me get let me do this. I was gonna play, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get into the alien audio. I want to play

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<v Speaker 2>all of it together. All right, let's go to the phones. Uh, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>what's up?

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<v Speaker 9>I think Matt Gates is gonna have a hard time

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<v Speaker 9>got a lot of people that don't like him.

427
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<v Speaker 1>Every Kevin McCarthy's not the speaker man.

428
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<v Speaker 9>But I mean when when with remember when that Gates

429
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<v Speaker 9>I do I do after him?

430
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<v Speaker 2>And he's been a bully in a China shop for

431
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the leadership.

432
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<v Speaker 9>That yeah, he got Chava McCarthy kicked out of his

433
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<v Speaker 9>speaker role, right, I mean he had it for like

434
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<v Speaker 9>two three days and then that Gates got with his

435
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<v Speaker 9>people and they said he's not right for this role.

436
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<v Speaker 9>And and I think it was spiteful. And I think

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<v Speaker 9>Chava McCarty's gonna lead a tooth against Gates just for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything, sir, When when the when the

439
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<v Speaker 2>gamut runs from this is normal, so that the timeline

440
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<v Speaker 2>works out in Florida so they can house the full

441
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<v Speaker 2>Congress on January third, versus secret asteroids and aliens coming

442
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<v Speaker 2>to murder us. Uh, anything that's possible in the middle

443
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<v Speaker 2>of that, you know what I'm saying.

444
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<v Speaker 9>And the Republicans don't count about you know, they'll shoot

445
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<v Speaker 9>the foot right out.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Of gate, snatching the feet from the jaws of victory, sir.

447
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<v Speaker 9>It's their thing, that's what the.

448
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

449
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<v Speaker 2>Now, the other side of it is intentionally taking an

450
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<v Speaker 2>L to distract from all your other w's and that's

451
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<v Speaker 2>when you start getting into the four D chest stuff.

452
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<v Speaker 2>And oh yeah, I'll let you figure out how you

453
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<v Speaker 2>feel about that all on your own.

454
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<v Speaker 1>But here's what we're gonna do now. And it hit

455
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<v Speaker 1>a break?

456
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<v Speaker 2>Did it come back? You guys want to talk aliens

457
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<v Speaker 2>real quick? Well, we got some audio. We'll play you there.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, it was also nice Nancy Mace

460
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<v Speaker 2>was sharing that hearing. And you know, it's tough because

461
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like there's people that aren't going to

462
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<v Speaker 2>take seriously and they think, oh, this is the search

463
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<v Speaker 2>for aliens, but it's really not, I know, as weird

464
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<v Speaker 2>as that it's really not. It's what it's about is

465
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<v Speaker 2>a whole swath of information stories and military interactions, which

466
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<v Speaker 2>is national security stuff where we don't know what it is.

467
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<v Speaker 8>It could be, you know, yeah, No. Marco Rubio made

468
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<v Speaker 8>this point in a while back. He said, the big

469
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<v Speaker 8>thing about this is like, yeah, are the aliens, sure,

470
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<v Speaker 8>but but these things are flying over our nuclear bases,

471
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<v Speaker 8>where our basis, our military basis, and what the hell

472
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<v Speaker 8>are they?

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And is it Russia? Is it? You know, since

475
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<v Speaker 1>Russia's the thing?

476
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<v Speaker 2>There?

477
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<v Speaker 1>Is it China?

478
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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

479
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<v Speaker 1>There, they're vehicles.

480
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<v Speaker 2>They fly over our bases and military installations and nuke stuff.

481
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<v Speaker 1>Is they lumber?

482
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<v Speaker 2>They're not quite as fast, and yet we still don't

483
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<v Speaker 2>shoot them down. By the way, you think heg Seth

484
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<v Speaker 2>is shooting down the Chinese SPI balloon and Trump. I

485
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<v Speaker 2>think they're having a primetime special on Fox to do it.

486
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<v Speaker 2>So we'll get into some of the testimony from yesterday

487
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<v Speaker 2>coming up here on the CaCO Day Radio program. SEC

488
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<v Speaker 2>deaf what sounds better deaf sec or sect deaf or

489
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<v Speaker 2>we could just use our words people, But I know

490
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<v Speaker 2>you military guys, you love abbreviations and that's okay. Some

491
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<v Speaker 2>of some of the acronyms are pretty good, not as

492
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<v Speaker 2>good as stop it be mature about this, dude. When

493
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<v Speaker 2>I get into some of this stuff, When I get

494
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<v Speaker 2>into some of this, you know, here's the other thing too,

495
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<v Speaker 2>Since that's a government agency. Now there's no copyright on stuff,

496
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<v Speaker 2>at least probably for that usage.

497
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a lawyer.

498
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<v Speaker 2>Ross, would you see if I'm a patent attorney or

499
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<v Speaker 2>copyright lawyer real quick or he's gonna look at.

500
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<v Speaker 1>That checking it out. Nope, not okay.

501
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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting the thumbs down, Roman Coliseum style. So with

502
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<v Speaker 2>that in mind, you know, that's why you can go

503
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<v Speaker 2>out and you can you could print all the President

504
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<v Speaker 2>Trump merch you on willet up. So if there's a

505
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<v Speaker 2>government agency, I guess that I've been like the dog.

506
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<v Speaker 2>May not although he keeps putting the dog in the

507
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<v Speaker 2>graphics he's making.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Probably not gonna assue you, but don't

509
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<v Speaker 1>take my word for it.

510
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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's uh, let me do this, just a

511
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<v Speaker 2>couple of clips from yesterday's uh, excuse me, yesterday's I'm

512
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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to move this over here there now we

513
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<v Speaker 2>can run the thing under it yesterday's aliens or unidentified

514
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<v Speaker 2>aircraft or what the hell is going on hearing the

515
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:36.839
<v Speaker 2>stuff that people are really interested in? Or two things.

516
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<v Speaker 1>One you got aliens.

517
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<v Speaker 2>Is is data founding a bunker somewhere in Nevada with

518
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<v Speaker 2>unkempt hair and a bunch of alien bodies. And also

519
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<v Speaker 2>what are those things flying around?

520
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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I realize it's going to be too loud. Okay,

522
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<v Speaker 2>all right, well let's uh, let's just go ahead and

523
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<v Speaker 2>get into it, shall we.

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<v Speaker 11>Concealing evidence about UAPs from the public, Yes, sir, yes, yes,

525
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<v Speaker 11>thank you.

526
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<v Speaker 3>I also want to just go down the line. I

527
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<v Speaker 3>know many of you have already said this.

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<v Speaker 11>By just for the record again, just briefly, what do

529
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<v Speaker 11>you believe UAPs.

530
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<v Speaker 5>Could be or are.

531
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<v Speaker 3>Strong evidence that they're non human higher intelligence?

532
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<v Speaker 12>I echo my colleague's commentary.

533
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<v Speaker 2>All right, and let me say this too about the

534
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<v Speaker 2>the the cats that are there testifying, and obviously you've

535
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<v Speaker 2>got you've got a variety of people there. There's nobody

536
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:46.200
<v Speaker 2>there that if I saw them, I would think to myself,

537
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:50.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised that dude's not wearing his tinfoil hat right there,

538
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:55.279
<v Speaker 2>like it seemed if if you didn't know what the

539
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:57.839
<v Speaker 2>subject was, and you weren't really listening to the words,

540
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:03.440
<v Speaker 2>but just the mannerisms. It sounded like any boringal congressional hearing.

541
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<v Speaker 2>It's just the topics they're talking about are pretty crazy. Man.

542
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<v Speaker 2>So you got this whole slate of witnesses. In fact,

543
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<v Speaker 2>let me let me just fill you in on who. Well,

544
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<v Speaker 2>let me let me do this. Let me get the

545
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<v Speaker 2>audio of the rest of the audio here, and then

546
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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about who some of the folks are. Okay,

547
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.400
<v Speaker 2>all right, because this is when it gets into the

548
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<v Speaker 2>meat of it, and that is all right. We don't

549
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<v Speaker 2>know what those are. But one way we could clear

550
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<v Speaker 2>this up is you just tell me if you got

551
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<v Speaker 2>some alien bodies or some sort of something.

552
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<v Speaker 1>And then it just got crazy.

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<v Speaker 13>Was anything described as that we have possession of bodies? Yes,

554
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<v Speaker 13>yes we have. Is it multiple types of creatures.

555
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<v Speaker 12>Or sorry, I couldn't answer that. I can tell you

556
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<v Speaker 12>anecdotally that it was. It was discussed quite a bit

557
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<v Speaker 12>when I was at the Pentagon. The problem is the

558
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<v Speaker 12>supposed collection of these biological samples occurred before my time,

559
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<v Speaker 12>in fact, before I was even born.

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<v Speaker 13>And was this part of the Lucky Martin discussion or

561
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<v Speaker 13>was this completely the biologist is a completely.

562
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<v Speaker 12>Separate, separate yet related.

563
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<v Speaker 13>Okays, has anyone made contact, sir?

564
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<v Speaker 12>I'm sorry, could you specialify?

565
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<v Speaker 13>Has there been any, to your knowledge, any communication with

566
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<v Speaker 13>a non human life form?

567
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<v Speaker 12>So the term communication is a bit of a trick

568
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<v Speaker 12>word because there's verbal communication like we're having now. The

569
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<v Speaker 12>problem is you also have nonverbal communication. And so I

570
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<v Speaker 12>would say definitively yes, but from a nonverbal meaning. When

571
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<v Speaker 12>a Russian reconnaissance aircraft comes into US airspace, we scramble

572
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<v Speaker 12>two F twenty two's and we are certainly communicating intent

573
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<v Speaker 12>and capability. I think the same goes with this. We

574
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<v Speaker 12>have these things that are being observed over controlled US airspace,

575
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<v Speaker 12>and they're not really doing a good job hiding themselves.

576
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<v Speaker 12>They're making it pretty obvious they have the ability to

577
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<v Speaker 12>even interfere with our nuclear equities and our nuclear readiness.

578
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<v Speaker 2>And here's the thing. Is that Galadid, Yeah, Timothy Galadid.

579
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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, former Navy rear admiral and was chief meteorologist

580
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<v Speaker 2>for the Is it just the Navy? Yeah, he's the

581
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<v Speaker 2>US Navy's chief meteorologist. So, and that's true. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that's how you communicate Wyoming. We use a series of lights.

583
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Ross you ever see when the aliens came to Wyoming?

584
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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that was fun when I was a kid,

585
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 2>then we just used flashy lights. But no, you don't

586
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<v Speaker 2>have to have words necessarily.

587
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<v Speaker 5>Do.

588
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<v Speaker 2>We have a story coming up of an amazing although

589
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>not successful insurance scam out of California, And just wait

590
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.079
<v Speaker 2>till you hear the details. That'll be on its way

591
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<v Speaker 2>here in just a few minutes, all right, I met.

592
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<v Speaker 2>Let me just set this up real quick. So I

593
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<v Speaker 2>mentioned a follow up from yesterday, And yesterday I talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the mayor of Durham. His name is Leonardo Williams.

595
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<v Speaker 2>He is he's the fresh mayor of Durham. He's got

596
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<v Speaker 2>under a year. And there was a story that w

597
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<v Speaker 2>r L did and in the story entitled why Durham

598
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<v Speaker 2>crime is creeping into Wake County neighborhoods, it basically hit

599
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<v Speaker 2>us with a.

600
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<v Speaker 1>Bunch of numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>And the numbers, I don't know that the numbers are

602
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<v Speaker 2>in dispute, right, it's the nuance of how we got there.

603
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<v Speaker 2>And the numbers show a double digit or in some

604
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<v Speaker 2>cases triple digit increase in some Wake County communities suburb

605
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<v Speaker 2>communities Morrisville and Kerry primarily affected. Apex and Holly Springs

606
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<v Speaker 2>were also on the list, and then Raleigh. And what

607
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<v Speaker 2>predicated a lot of this is you had a couple

608
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<v Speaker 2>high profile incidents, including a what can only be described

609
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<v Speaker 2>as an Old West shootout at Crabtree Valley Mall. You

610
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<v Speaker 2>had how many shootings in just a few hours the

611
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<v Speaker 2>other day? And people, look, when you start shooting up

612
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Crabtree or South Point, people get all crazy. I'll yield

613
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<v Speaker 2>to the fact that we've had some balls around that.

614
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<v Speaker 1>Literally they didn't.

615
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<v Speaker 2>Necessarily make the news as much, and those malls are

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<v Speaker 2>closed now. So when you have those numbers, like can

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<v Speaker 2>Carry where one hundred and fifty percent increase year over

618
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<v Speaker 2>a year of people who are arrested or are wanted

619
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<v Speaker 2>or suspected of committing crimes in the city limits of

620
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<v Speaker 2>We'll go with Carry because it's the highest number, but

621
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<v Speaker 2>Morrisville's pretty high to And you find out where the

622
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<v Speaker 2>people you've arrested are from, or the people that you're

623
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<v Speaker 2>that you're wanting to talk to are from. Once they

624
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<v Speaker 2>have your ID, and if you're already in the system,

625
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<v Speaker 2>they can look to see what your address is and

626
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<v Speaker 2>then of course if you get arrested, they get your

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<v Speaker 2>address from you. And what they found is a huge

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<v Speaker 2>increase in people whose address is in the city of Durham.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what predicated this article. And look, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to if you want to go and find a

631
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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood to commit you know, burglary, and there's lots of opportunity.

632
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<v Speaker 1>There's lots of opportunity in the city of.

633
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<v Speaker 2>Durham, but there's also a lot of opportunity in the

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<v Speaker 2>city of Carry. You have a bunch of a bunch

635
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<v Speaker 2>of houses that are probably have a lot of really

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<v Speaker 2>nice stuff in them based on the socioeconomic footprint that

637
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<v Speaker 2>is Carry. So I understand the temptation. I'm not a

638
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 2>home burglar myself, but you know that seems like I

639
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:32.320
<v Speaker 2>can do the logic on this stuff. So with that

640
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 2>in mind, he took umbrage with this. He didn't like that,

641
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 2>and he tweeted the following, I'm aware and disappointed the

642
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:44.360
<v Speaker 2>WRL investigative story why Durham the headline? I got to

643
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:48.079
<v Speaker 2>reread it and the despicable angle taken at our city.

644
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Durham's story is ours to tell and we won't let

645
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 2>it be misrepresented. Implicit bias too often divides communities. We

646
00:34:55.800 --> 00:35:00.800
<v Speaker 2>won't allow that. In the bull City hashtag Durham is dope,

647
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:06.800
<v Speaker 2>which and I have agreed in on that last part, Like,

648
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of really cool stuff over in Durham,

649
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.159
<v Speaker 2>but we're not talking about that that sweet hotel with

650
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 2>the rooftop bar restaurant, which you should go check out.

651
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean this, we're not talking about when you go

652
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:21.760
<v Speaker 2>to DPAK to go to one of the many great

653
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:23.679
<v Speaker 2>shows that they have there. I saw the Book of

654
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Mormon there, loved it, and we've had events.

655
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Over the years.

656
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.599
<v Speaker 2>This is all good stuff. But what remains is Durham

657
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:32.280
<v Speaker 2>has issues, and a lot of them are socio economically.

658
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:35.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, you can just point to the socio economics

659
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 2>of things, and I don't even know why that has

660
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 2>to be a racial connotation. People want to make it.

661
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.159
<v Speaker 2>You tend to have higher crime where people are poorer. Now,

662
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:51.159
<v Speaker 2>then things divide. The difference here is the criminals are

663
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 2>not operating well. They probably are operating in their own community,

664
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.039
<v Speaker 2>but they're also going and they're operating in other communities

665
00:35:57.079 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 2>where you know, the biggest thing that people may deal

666
00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:02.559
<v Speaker 2>with with criminally in a day. Is somebody jaywalked in

667
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:07.400
<v Speaker 2>front of him? So yeah, it gets noticed, It gets noticed.

668
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:11.599
<v Speaker 2>And I yesterday, I'm on the record and I tweeted,

669
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 2>and I'll say it again.

670
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I think this.

671
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Mayor is he's either wilfully ignorant or he's dumb, because

672
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>this isn't about that. This is the thing that you

673
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:25.000
<v Speaker 2>do here. If you're the mayor of Durham and you're

674
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 2>the bigger city, call the mayor of Carry and maybe

675
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.920
<v Speaker 2>he did that. Maybe you should tweet that, talk about it.

676
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:33.079
<v Speaker 2>There's no reason why the mayor of Durham, the mayor

677
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 2>of Carry and the mayor of Morrisville and everybody else

678
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.119
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't all want the same thing. And that's less criminal

679
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.320
<v Speaker 2>activity in their communities, all right.

680
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:41.599
<v Speaker 1>So that's the setup to this.

681
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 2>The mayor did give a I think ABC eleven interview. Yeah,

682
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:50.000
<v Speaker 2>basically came out, yeah here we go. I no, it

683
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.480
<v Speaker 2>was Aril. He says, we're not running from our issues. Good,

684
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.239
<v Speaker 2>but like they continue to be issues. So and then

685
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:01.280
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the show, Paul Scott called me

686
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:06.280
<v Speaker 2>and I did not see him until about with about

687
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:11.039
<v Speaker 2>sixty seconds left, and he feels that I am throwing

688
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:16.119
<v Speaker 2>race where racism is being implied here incorrectly, and I

689
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:18.039
<v Speaker 2>told him, I said, you know what, normally we only

690
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:19.639
<v Speaker 2>do one call per day, but I kind of let

691
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>you ste till the end, so please call me back.

692
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.039
<v Speaker 2>And with that in mind, he called back, So we'll

693
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.440
<v Speaker 2>continue this conversation. How are you doing this morning, sir.

694
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm doing well certainly, so.

695
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know, it's closer to Friday, man, That's all

696
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I care about. It's the weather's nice.

697
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 1>So I think we.

698
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Can agree on all that, regardless of where we live

699
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:38.800
<v Speaker 2>or what we're doing. Let me ask you a question.

700
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Some people probably know who you are, Minister Paul Scott.

701
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:43.039
<v Speaker 2>No shots fired.

702
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I think.

703
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Is that your blog I can't remember what the exact.

704
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<v Speaker 10>Name is, like, yeah, that was that was That was

705
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.360
<v Speaker 10>ten years ago, that that blog no longer is this?

706
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, it does exist, because I went and looked and

707
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.159
<v Speaker 2>there's still articles on there accusing me of trying to

708
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:58.960
<v Speaker 2>start race riots and grocery stores.

709
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:03.000
<v Speaker 10>But with that in mind, this in the same way

710
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:05.760
<v Speaker 10>you just accused of mayor making a racist comment that

711
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<v Speaker 10>he did not make.

712
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, what am I supposing I read it here? And

713
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 2>so this is, let's go ahead and start that conversation.

714
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Implicit bias too often divides communities. What do you think

715
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.039
<v Speaker 2>he means by implicit bias.

716
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 5>Classism?

717
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:26.440
<v Speaker 10>There is nothing nothing racial besides quick bait journalism about

718
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:30.840
<v Speaker 10>that statement. He's clearly talking about classism.

719
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<v Speaker 2>You don't think he says implicit bias, which is uh,

720
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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna I'll let you finish. I just want

721
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.159
<v Speaker 2>to clarify why I think it is, and you can

722
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:42.960
<v Speaker 2>tell me why I'm wrong. When when I hear implicit bias,

723
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I almost exclusively hear it when you're dealing with crime

724
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:50.880
<v Speaker 2>stuff in the way in which uh, criminal justice is.

725
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Applied to individuals, So it could be implicit.

726
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 2>They just had a story in Fayeville where they said

727
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:59.440
<v Speaker 2>that there is implicit bias at work because more black

728
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.039
<v Speaker 2>motorism are are.

729
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Stopped for speeding.

730
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Right, So that is that is, that is how we

731
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:09.280
<v Speaker 2>talk about That's the code words we use when we're

732
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 2>talking about racism within policing. And this is you would

733
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>agree this is a policing issue that we need to worry.

734
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:24.840
<v Speaker 10>But I would think what's hypocritical is saying talking about

735
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:29.639
<v Speaker 10>implicit bias. That's an interpretation. That's your interpretation, the same

736
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 10>way you interpreted what the mayor said. It's the same

737
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:36.519
<v Speaker 10>way the mayor interpreted what w r L said its interpretation.

738
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, help me out here because I because I

739
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 2>don't understand why the mayor even has time for that.

740
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why he responds to it, because I mean,

741
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.519
<v Speaker 2>I understand it's the Mayor of Durham. But like his response,

742
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.599
<v Speaker 2>it's numbers. I mean you you don't disagree that the

743
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:54.119
<v Speaker 2>numbers are accurate? Right?

744
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:59.599
<v Speaker 10>Hey, he doesn't disagree either, He just disagrees with the context.

745
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.159
<v Speaker 10>He was very clear. I don't know how much of

746
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.639
<v Speaker 10>the interview you saw, Yes.

747
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.679
<v Speaker 1>I will actually haven't.

748
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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, I was actually in the w tv D version.

749
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:17.199
<v Speaker 10>I'm in that one. But as far as the mayor,

750
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:20.599
<v Speaker 10>he was very clear that Durham isn't running a ducking

751
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:25.280
<v Speaker 10>uh these issues And I had a conversation with the mayor,

752
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:30.239
<v Speaker 10>a brief conversation with the mayor right after the press conference,

753
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:33.239
<v Speaker 10>and he had a message for you. He said that

754
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.440
<v Speaker 10>if you want to talk to him, call him.

755
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, will you know what? Uh, Well, you can tell him,

756
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:41.639
<v Speaker 2>but he'll hear from us. I'm going to have Ross

757
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:45.199
<v Speaker 2>schedule an interview with him, okay, and uh and and

758
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:46.960
<v Speaker 2>we'll have this convers.

759
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:48.880
<v Speaker 5>From his his mouth to my ears, he.

760
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 10>Said he he will be he said, if you want

761
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:55.559
<v Speaker 10>to talk about him, talk talk to him.

762
00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Well.

763
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<v Speaker 2>So, just to be clear, we have reached out Durham

764
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 2>City officials himself included, and you know, prior to his

765
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:08.679
<v Speaker 2>current position, and in every instance, with the exception of

766
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:12.199
<v Speaker 2>inquiries to the police department, we have been ignored.

767
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>We don't return our calls. So if he wants to change.

768
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:20.159
<v Speaker 2>That yesterday right right, No, no, no, I'm not. You don't

769
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.280
<v Speaker 2>work for the mayor. I understand that I'm not putting

770
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.119
<v Speaker 2>it on you, and I look for it, you know,

771
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 2>because here's let me ask you this, let me let

772
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>me let me hit some positive in here s what

773
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.559
<v Speaker 2>do what do you think is the best thing Durham

774
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.760
<v Speaker 2>has going for it right now that people don't appreciate

775
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.039
<v Speaker 2>or should know about, because obviously Durham's your jam man.

776
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh, every you.

777
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Know this is this is this is where you live,

778
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 2>this is what you promote, and this is what you

779
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:46.639
<v Speaker 2>took the time to call and say that you felt

780
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 2>I was misrepresenting. So of the other thing you know,

781
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.400
<v Speaker 2>outside of the d pack and going to the ballpark

782
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.199
<v Speaker 2>and the great restaurants, what does Durham have going for

783
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:58.320
<v Speaker 2>it that people should know who tend to have a

784
00:41:58.360 --> 00:41:59.639
<v Speaker 2>negative opinion help.

785
00:41:59.480 --> 00:41:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Me out here.

786
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 5>Okay.

787
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.039
<v Speaker 10>The thing that people should know is there is a

788
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:12.639
<v Speaker 10>core group of activists across the city of all races,

789
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:20.119
<v Speaker 10>all ethnicity, ethnicities, all identities, who are striving every day

790
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 10>to make this city better. And it doesn't make w

791
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:28.519
<v Speaker 10>r L. It doesn't make probably your station because what

792
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:34.480
<v Speaker 10>is interesting about mentorship programs? What is interested about people

793
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.800
<v Speaker 10>giving out books in the community. Because we are driven

794
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.119
<v Speaker 10>our catering to certain markets, I think you will agree

795
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 10>to that. And there is a strong market in this

796
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.360
<v Speaker 10>area that just wants to beast DRM and I think

797
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 10>that your show included and that w r a L

798
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.840
<v Speaker 10>story caters to that group that no matter what happens

799
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:58.239
<v Speaker 10>in Durham, there is a core there's a large segment

800
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<v Speaker 10>of this community outside of Durham. It's going to bast

801
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.840
<v Speaker 10>Durham regardless. I don't and they're used very excuses with

802
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:13.320
<v Speaker 10>Durham's Democrat. Durham is blue whatever it is blue, I

803
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:19.559
<v Speaker 10>mean again, right, but I think that is people. Radio

804
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 10>stations and in some cases television stations catered to that

805
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:29.079
<v Speaker 10>crowd that just hates Duham and that uh headline from

806
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 10>w r L that was carried into that crowd in

807
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 10>my opinion.

808
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<v Speaker 2>But those are true numbers. And then, and here's the

809
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<v Speaker 2>thing I understand. The You know, when somebody, when some

810
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 2>guy from Canada is like us should do this, it's

811
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:44.000
<v Speaker 2>easy to tell him, hey, can I stick to your

812
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.559
<v Speaker 2>own politics all the rest, And with Durham that would

813
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:50.280
<v Speaker 2>be one thing. But the stories that I tend to

814
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.920
<v Speaker 2>leave lean in on is and it enrages me, and

815
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:56.719
<v Speaker 2>I would hope it enrages you too, that a six

816
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:58.840
<v Speaker 2>year old boy can't think he's going out for a

817
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.559
<v Speaker 2>snow comb but because mom dras an suv that kind

818
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.639
<v Speaker 2>of looks like this other dude's suv, that some failed

819
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.239
<v Speaker 2>rapper is going to shoot him in the head, right,

820
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:11.519
<v Speaker 2>And so that's me, that's me, I understand. But I'm

821
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:14.519
<v Speaker 2>giving you an example of where it where it ends

822
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.639
<v Speaker 2>up outside of Durham in the media and people have

823
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:21.599
<v Speaker 2>visceral reactions. The difference here is the the stuff is

824
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:25.000
<v Speaker 2>not just happening in Durham. It's happening in Kerry. It's

825
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Speaker 2>happening in Morrisville, Apex, Holly Springs. So this isn't just

826
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:34.400
<v Speaker 2>a Durham problem. This is a Wake County problem with

827
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:38.880
<v Speaker 2>these communities. So why is it inappropriate that people Again,

828
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:40.719
<v Speaker 2>people are probably gonna have a negative reaction to one

829
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:43.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty percent uptick in people coming from another

830
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 2>community to rob their houses.

831
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<v Speaker 10>But I want to say, for the record, this is

832
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<v Speaker 10>the first time that there's been a shooting incident or

833
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.159
<v Speaker 10>fighting incident at Crabtree that had nothing to do with Durham.

834
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<v Speaker 10>And as far as recent news, I have not heard

835
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:05.119
<v Speaker 10>anybody say they're scared to drive the Raleigh because there's

836
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.119
<v Speaker 10>a snipe. They might get shot by a sniper. So

837
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<v Speaker 10>a lot of.

838
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not scared to drive to Durham.

839
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:20.519
<v Speaker 10>My point is, yeah, My point is after the sniper

840
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:24.280
<v Speaker 10>incident on forty last week, people in Durham want saying, well,

841
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:27.400
<v Speaker 10>I'm scared to go to Raleigh because there's a sniper

842
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:31.559
<v Speaker 10>on the loose. But again, there is a segment that

843
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<v Speaker 10>if you start talking about the activists like myself and Durham,

844
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:41.840
<v Speaker 10>who is striving every day to make Durham better, I

845
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 10>think you would I would both agree. You would lose

846
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:48.000
<v Speaker 10>fifty at least of your audience who tune in to

847
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:50.039
<v Speaker 10>hear negative things about Durham.

848
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:55.519
<v Speaker 2>No, they're not audiences. And my audiences in take my ball,

849
00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:58.159
<v Speaker 2>go home and go over to Bluesky. They may debate

850
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<v Speaker 2>you and argue with you, and I would I would

851
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:04.079
<v Speaker 2>ask this question of you, Paul, or do you what

852
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.039
<v Speaker 2>progress have you guys made over there? Because I remember

853
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:09.719
<v Speaker 2>I read an article where you were wanting, uh, correct

854
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>me if I'm wrong. Was it you wanted crosswalks painted

855
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:16.599
<v Speaker 2>with was it like tempty cloth colors or something? Because

856
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Speaker 2>you thought and yeah, like did that help? Did that

857
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.000
<v Speaker 2>stop some of the stuff? I got about a minute.

858
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:24.840
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just I'm just saying that if we don't

859
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:27.440
<v Speaker 2>think there's a problem, then maybe we need better ideas.

860
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think policing is it.

861
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:36.199
<v Speaker 10>Because of political bureaucracy that never happened. But if you

862
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.760
<v Speaker 10>read the other articles about me giving out books in

863
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:43.960
<v Speaker 10>the community, going into these neighborhoods, doing political education, talking

864
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 10>to the youth, and given impromptu history lessons on my

865
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:51.880
<v Speaker 10>own dime, that your effort.

866
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.760
<v Speaker 2>We're not questioning your effort. I'm questioning whether it's getting

867
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.800
<v Speaker 2>results is where I'm at, and I think it's giving

868
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:02.079
<v Speaker 2>a growth well the but if I look at Durham,

869
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:02.440
<v Speaker 2>it's not.

870
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:04.599
<v Speaker 1>So it's not.

871
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.599
<v Speaker 10>I mean, I'm just try I'm one person, try to

872
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.760
<v Speaker 10>save one person. Like I said on the news last night,

873
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 10>the only thing important to me is that five year

874
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.199
<v Speaker 10>old child, that little girl that runs up to me

875
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:19.000
<v Speaker 10>at least two or three times a week, that says,

876
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 10>where's my book? Nothing else matters. Your opinion doesn't matter.

877
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:24.960
<v Speaker 10>The mayor's opinion doesn't matter.

878
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.639
<v Speaker 2>Paul, Paul, I gotta Paul, I gotta put you on hold.

879
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:30.639
<v Speaker 2>I got a hard break, so hang on and we'll

880
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.079
<v Speaker 2>continue this next. It would it be fair to refer

881
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.239
<v Speaker 2>to you as activists, Minister Paul Scott, I just want

882
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to make sure that that is a fairmonic.

883
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:42.599
<v Speaker 5>You can call me anything you want to.

884
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Casey, well, I wouldn't do that, you know, even if

885
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.559
<v Speaker 2>you I'm not gonna be that guy.

886
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:48.519
<v Speaker 1>So uh.

887
00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:52.000
<v Speaker 2>But but here's where, here's where I wanted to This

888
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:55.440
<v Speaker 2>is what I want to talk about. I think that

889
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:57.920
<v Speaker 2>there's it is my opinion and you and I disagree

890
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:00.239
<v Speaker 2>with this, and I we're gonna we're gonna try get

891
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:01.920
<v Speaker 2>the mayor on and I'll talk to him about it.

892
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:04.719
<v Speaker 2>I think ninety nine point nine percent of the time

893
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:10.599
<v Speaker 2>when we use the term implicit bias and or I

894
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 2>watch the Deal with It press conferences right where something's

895
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:18.639
<v Speaker 2>happened and then city leadership and Durham has to talk

896
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:23.400
<v Speaker 2>about it. Is there is identity politics at play and

897
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:26.719
<v Speaker 2>when the bigger thing that I'm trying to determine is

898
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 2>two things.

899
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:28.920
<v Speaker 1>One is it helping?

900
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:32.840
<v Speaker 2>And to answer that, and I'm curious your answer, I

901
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 2>just want to hit people with a few numbers. One

902
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:39.800
<v Speaker 2>in the seventy two hours, a couple over a seventy

903
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>two hour span here earlier this week, five shootings happened,

904
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:46.280
<v Speaker 2>three were dead, five injured in Durham. If you look

905
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:49.119
<v Speaker 2>at the crime numbers year over year, and let's just

906
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:52.960
<v Speaker 2>take this year from last year, it's it's not even close.

907
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Person shot is up forty four percent. The number of

908
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 2>shooting incidents is down, so we'll say at least they're

909
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:03.599
<v Speaker 2>getting in some trigger time at the range and more accurate,

910
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:07.880
<v Speaker 2>but the fatalities are up seventeen percent. It is undeniable

911
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:12.599
<v Speaker 2>that within the bull city there is there is an increase.

912
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.840
<v Speaker 2>But what is Also undeniable is the vast majority of

913
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.800
<v Speaker 2>not just the people who commit it, to commit these

914
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:25.960
<v Speaker 2>shootings and murders in Durham outsize. The population percentage are minorities,

915
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:31.360
<v Speaker 2>but the victims are almost exclusively. And so when I

916
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:34.519
<v Speaker 2>sit here and I have genuine concern on why things

917
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:37.599
<v Speaker 2>aren't getting better, it's because I don't care where you live.

918
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I want your life in America to be easier. That's

919
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:42.880
<v Speaker 2>why I do this. And part of being easy could

920
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.800
<v Speaker 2>be lower taxes for some people and not getting shot

921
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:47.639
<v Speaker 2>while you're out front with your family.

922
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 1>And that's all that I want.

923
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like that's probably what you want too,

924
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:52.639
<v Speaker 2>and you don't want people to have.

925
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 1>To worry about things.

926
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:57.400
<v Speaker 2>So why is it when I then talk to Durham

927
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.000
<v Speaker 2>city leaders, or even when I'm sitting here talking to you,

928
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I care more about your community than

929
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:02.920
<v Speaker 2>you do.

930
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:08.760
<v Speaker 10>And I think that using me as an example is

931
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:15.360
<v Speaker 10>documentedly wrong. You can google my activist working Durham over

932
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:16.320
<v Speaker 10>the last I think they.

933
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Can talk to you, and you're on the air with me.

934
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:20.599
<v Speaker 2>That's why I mean, I'm so you tell me why

935
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:22.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm wrong. That's why we're having this conversation. But I'm

936
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:23.840
<v Speaker 2>using you because you're the person.

937
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:24.480
<v Speaker 5>That's what I do.

938
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:27.920
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, right before, I would like, this is what I

939
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:31.840
<v Speaker 10>was saying, because you're talking director and me, and you

940
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:36.400
<v Speaker 10>included me in that conversation. You can google.

941
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:39.119
<v Speaker 5>Paul Scott Durham and see what I'm do in the community.

942
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:42.880
<v Speaker 10>I'm not a person who's sitting on the sideline making

943
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:47.280
<v Speaker 10>excuses just complain. I'm out there in the community six

944
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:50.320
<v Speaker 10>days a week at least, trying to make a difference

945
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:57.039
<v Speaker 10>without government funds, without government even acknowledgement of our local government.

946
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.239
<v Speaker 10>So that's the perspective I'm coming from.

947
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:01.440
<v Speaker 2>That you're the mayor.

948
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:03.320
<v Speaker 1>You just you know the mayor.

949
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:04.800
<v Speaker 2>You just you just told me just talk to them,

950
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:09.719
<v Speaker 2>so like you're more impactful than you think, sir, don't don't.

951
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:12.280
<v Speaker 2>What all that I want is to know what is

952
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:13.960
<v Speaker 2>the city of Durham And I know you don't control

953
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.400
<v Speaker 2>the purse strings. What is it that they're going to

954
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:19.000
<v Speaker 2>do that's finally going to break through? And I'm not

955
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:21.599
<v Speaker 2>talking about the you know, the things that you do

956
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:24.599
<v Speaker 2>on a personal basis. That's one of those where if

957
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:26.639
<v Speaker 2>you get a thousand of you and you're all doing that,

958
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a difference maker. But the reality is

959
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:33.199
<v Speaker 2>it's not made a difference, you know, whether it's discussions

960
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:36.599
<v Speaker 2>about crosswalks, bragging about the number of gun free zone

961
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 2>signs they put up by the old tobacco district there,

962
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:43.159
<v Speaker 2>like what is Durham doing because we keep dodging the

963
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:45.719
<v Speaker 2>issue and the issue and the solution. In my opinion,

964
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:47.159
<v Speaker 2>and I'll let you have the last word on this,

965
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:51.840
<v Speaker 2>is you need to more aggressively lock people up who

966
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:54.280
<v Speaker 2>would terrorize communities. And I'll bet if you go to

967
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:57.079
<v Speaker 2>McDougal and talk to people off the record, they would

968
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.000
<v Speaker 2>probably agree because they don't want to be terrorized.

969
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:05.719
<v Speaker 10>So I would say that I can only speak from

970
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:08.320
<v Speaker 10>the I can't speak for the mayor. I can't speak

971
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:12.599
<v Speaker 10>for the community, the politicians. I can only speak from

972
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:15.320
<v Speaker 10>a grassroots community acts this point.

973
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:18.360
<v Speaker 5>Of view, everybody get involved in.

974
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:21.639
<v Speaker 10>Some kind of way, get involved in making the community better.

975
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:24.199
<v Speaker 10>But I would leave you with this challenge unless you

976
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:25.039
<v Speaker 10>have a follow up.

977
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:28.639
<v Speaker 5>If you go on YouTube.

978
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:33.920
<v Speaker 10>And you search in the YouTube Worthhoods in Raleigh and

979
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:40.400
<v Speaker 10>also search Worsehoods and Durham, the videos are basically the same.

980
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.880
<v Speaker 2>No question, no question, But the numbers on a per

981
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:47.760
<v Speaker 2>capita or even a total are not It's not even close,

982
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and Raleigh has more people. I'm not trying to pick

983
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.639
<v Speaker 2>the cities against each other. I don't want it happening anywhere.

984
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:56.519
<v Speaker 2>But I want you just to answer my question, which

985
00:52:56.559 --> 00:53:00.360
<v Speaker 2>you kind of didn't answer. What would if you're you're

986
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:02.239
<v Speaker 2>you're the king. Okay, we just made you the king,

987
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:05.039
<v Speaker 2>so you can do what everyonet? What does the City

988
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.920
<v Speaker 2>of Durham need to do if if if funds aren't

989
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:13.639
<v Speaker 2>an issue, and and and does it involve actually incarcerating

990
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.920
<v Speaker 2>more people, because that's what a lot of people seem

991
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.199
<v Speaker 2>to think. And if not, why So that would be

992
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:20.039
<v Speaker 2>my final question.

993
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious you're answering, Okay.

994
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:27.440
<v Speaker 10>My final answer is if I was critical of Durham politics,

995
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.480
<v Speaker 10>I would say they need to listen to not to

996
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:34.519
<v Speaker 10>the politician, not to the grant money mafia, those who

997
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:36.960
<v Speaker 10>make millions of dollars.

998
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:41.480
<v Speaker 14>Everywhere there every money, there's the problem to be to

999
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:44.719
<v Speaker 14>be held accountable for every penny, and to listen to

1000
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:50.480
<v Speaker 14>the everyday people that are in the streets, in the communities, talking.

1001
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:53.400
<v Speaker 10>To the youth and see this in the echo chamber,

1002
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:56.960
<v Speaker 10>only listening to the nonprofits and the other people.

1003
00:53:57.920 --> 00:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's fair.

1004
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:01.559
<v Speaker 2>But then again, and my question is, and I'll just

1005
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:05.719
<v Speaker 2>ask a point, Mike, do more people in Durham need

1006
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:06.880
<v Speaker 2>to be incarcerated?

1007
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:13.360
<v Speaker 10>I think anybody in the United States who's committing the

1008
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:16.639
<v Speaker 10>crime and has been proven guilty needs to be incarcerated.

1009
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we quibble over the bail and all that.

1010
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 2>That's but look, I honestly, it's really hard for a

1011
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.800
<v Speaker 2>guy to kill you when he's in Florence, Colorado, supermans.

1012
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:30.000
<v Speaker 2>That's all that I'm saying, and it's I understand, But

1013
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:32.079
<v Speaker 2>I also understand it's not as simplistic as that.

1014
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:33.079
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1015
00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I have family who's gone through criminal justice system, through

1016
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:39.079
<v Speaker 2>addiction and things like that. I recognize where the flaws are,

1017
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:41.280
<v Speaker 2>and I recognize you can't treat things all the same.

1018
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:44.000
<v Speaker 2>But if we're going to start off at some point

1019
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:47.159
<v Speaker 2>one of the easiest ways before you start trimming around

1020
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:49.679
<v Speaker 2>the edges with the work that you're doing, talking about,

1021
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:51.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, bringing books to kids and things like that,

1022
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.639
<v Speaker 2>so that they don't go down that path. It's it's

1023
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:56.960
<v Speaker 2>got to be the totality of things. Would you agree,

1024
00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 2>It's got to be a lot of things to solve

1025
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.679
<v Speaker 2>the problems of Raleigh, Greensboro, wherever it is.

1026
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:07.920
<v Speaker 15>And I agree, okay, And I will say for context,

1027
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:11.519
<v Speaker 15>just for a balanced discussion that disagreeing or like the

1028
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:15.239
<v Speaker 15>mayor said yesterday that running from the issue.

1029
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:19.679
<v Speaker 10>I would just say for a balanced conversation, read a

1030
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:23.400
<v Speaker 10>book like Michelle Alexander's book, The New Jim Crow, and

1031
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:27.800
<v Speaker 10>that will give a balanced conversation. Two things can be

1032
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 10>correct at the same time, so we can both be

1033
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.199
<v Speaker 10>correct on certain aspects at the same time. It doesn't

1034
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 10>have to be an either or yeah, no.

1035
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:36.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

1036
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:37.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm not on the ground.

1037
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Because only somebody who's just like your interaction with that

1038
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:43.800
<v Speaker 2>little girl or I'm sorry, I just bought my microphone

1039
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:47.880
<v Speaker 2>or anybody else like that personal interaction, you're able to

1040
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.320
<v Speaker 2>evaluate whether you think it's making a difference. I have

1041
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.840
<v Speaker 2>no way to talk about that, but I can look

1042
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:55.079
<v Speaker 2>at the hard numbers, and I think that's why people

1043
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:57.000
<v Speaker 2>were concerned, and that's why we had the conversation.

1044
00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:59.599
<v Speaker 1>So Paul I got a roll of it. Thank you

1045
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:00.000
<v Speaker 1>very much.

1046
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:03.000
<v Speaker 5>Okay, thank you all right.

1047
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh so there you go. You want to weigh in

1048
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:07.960
<v Speaker 2>on that, Uh, we'll get into some things here. In

1049
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:11.280
<v Speaker 2>the next segment, also, Steven Kent will be joining us,

1050
00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:13.239
<v Speaker 2>and we got a bunch of Hollywood stuff that will

1051
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:15.880
<v Speaker 2>be from eight o five story Ada at oh five.

1052
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:18.360
<v Speaker 2>So we'll bang out calls in a moment, but first

1053
00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:21.440
<v Speaker 2>let's bang out some weather from raced Age. Dude, you guys,

1054
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:23.320
<v Speaker 2>you're one of your one of your guys was in

1055
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:27.199
<v Speaker 2>the alien hearing yesterday, really, Congress, Yeah, he was the

1056
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:30.559
<v Speaker 2>chief former chief meteorologist of the Navy.

1057
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:35.559
<v Speaker 16>Oh yeah, uh a meteorologist, not a weather channel person.

1058
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:39.360
<v Speaker 2>No, No, he's a meteorologist for the US Navy.

1059
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:40.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1060
00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:42.840
<v Speaker 16>I thought you meant one if you want to you

1061
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:44.599
<v Speaker 16>want to go, that was the wan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of pressure considering your prognosticating weather forecast

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00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:51.320
<v Speaker 2>for our entire fleets.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you don't want to get that wrong, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you certainly.

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<v Speaker 16>What I meant to say was yeah, Yeah, it's one

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00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:02.559
<v Speaker 16>of those things where like if you're if you're wrong,

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00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:04.280
<v Speaker 16>everybody's kind of like laugh at you.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's yeah.

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00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Not like when you're playing with your kids.

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00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:09.760
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, you're.

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<v Speaker 16>Probably gonna be yeah right, anybody be ordering the code

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<v Speaker 16>red right.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey man? Yeah, you know trust the process, so exactly

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00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:21.719
<v Speaker 2>all right, let's truss the weather process and yeah, or

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00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:23.320
<v Speaker 2>find it so it makes us happy.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, kind of yucky out there, but I will emphasize

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00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 16>needing the rainfall, even back in the hardest hit areas

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00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:33.159
<v Speaker 16>from Helene getting rained this morning. Other there's no flood advisories,

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00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:36.039
<v Speaker 16>no flood warnings, no flood watches. But I do see

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00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:38.679
<v Speaker 16>some yellow, a little yellow come through Chatham County, come

1083
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:42.719
<v Speaker 16>across the Triangle and the Triad going through Greensboro, heading

1084
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:47.360
<v Speaker 16>into uh, places like Liberty and maybe even places like

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00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:50.159
<v Speaker 16>let's see Pittsburgh. You're also getting some heavier rain in

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00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:52.599
<v Speaker 16>around there. And as I said, it all extends back

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00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:55.800
<v Speaker 16>towards the west, where the rain's starting to taper off,

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00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:57.880
<v Speaker 16>back into parts of central North Georgia, and all of

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00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:00.840
<v Speaker 16>our weather is coming from that southwest direction. So in

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<v Speaker 16>it today with the rain in the fifties tonight, the

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00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:05.599
<v Speaker 16>rainal taper off probably early. There's still a chance for

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<v Speaker 16>a shower tomorrow, but then we'll go into a dryer

1093
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.559
<v Speaker 16>period with some sun and the gusty breeze near sixty tomorrow.

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00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:13.199
<v Speaker 16>Weekend looks real nice even into early next week. Another

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00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:16.360
<v Speaker 16>warming trend mid upper sixties over the weekend, maybe seventy

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00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:20.119
<v Speaker 16>for some of us for Monday, Tuesday and even Wednesday,

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00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:21.920
<v Speaker 16>and then later in that we'll see casey if we

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00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:25.239
<v Speaker 16>do get a cool down later next week, especially into

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00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:27.400
<v Speaker 16>Thanksgiving week, where it looks like at least the northern

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00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:29.599
<v Speaker 16>tier of the US is finally going to see some

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00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:31.320
<v Speaker 16>Arctic air come south. I mean, come on, it's the

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00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:34.599
<v Speaker 16>middle of November. We'll see how far south that colder

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00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:38.719
<v Speaker 16>air mass gets. Plenty more to talk about that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 16>I'm just absolutely horrible person.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 16>Listen, last year I went up north.

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00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:49.440
<v Speaker 1>And now, no, this is actually makes it worse. Why

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00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:50.320
<v Speaker 1>would you admit this?

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00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Just so everyone knows mister Stagey here loves sledding and

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00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:59.639
<v Speaker 2>the big boy sledden on the snowmobiles when he goes

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00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:03.519
<v Speaker 2>to uh, I don't know, Hudson, Wisconsin or upstate. Now

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00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:06.679
<v Speaker 2>you've done Hudson, right, No, not that just up.

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<v Speaker 5>By.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's it.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, I've got goals.

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00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 2>That some of the your kids not to have to

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00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.559
<v Speaker 2>go to school, right and uh and you're hard to

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00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:18.639
<v Speaker 2>maybe slide into a ditch so that he can.

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<v Speaker 16>None of this work from home stuff on snow days.

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<v Speaker 16>It doesn't make it a snow day.

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00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:23.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't like it, so you.

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00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Can get it seven hundred out seven.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're right, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure fifty yeah, and I believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 16>Two years ago when there was snow, I was on

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00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:35.480
<v Speaker 16>a brand new one because my buddy, my cousin's buddies

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00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:38.559
<v Speaker 16>brother just they both got two brand new ones and

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<v Speaker 16>they put me on the new one. So that's fine

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<v Speaker 16>with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, Well, well we'll chat next hour. Appreciate it,

1131
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:47.039
<v Speaker 2>all right, So Rod come on the air. Ros So

1132
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<v Speaker 2>that line one that's all confirmed with Rock and Roll. Okay,

1133
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:52.880
<v Speaker 2>all right, So the Mayor of Durham, Leonardo Williams, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna chat with him, coming up.

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00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:57.000
<v Speaker 1>We just got a few men. We may move some stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do that next hang on, we I don't even

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01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:03.079
<v Speaker 2>have to schedule. The Mayor of Durham, Leonardo Williams, joining

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01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:07.800
<v Speaker 2>us this morning. How are you doing today, sir? You're

1140
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:12.719
<v Speaker 2>all right, all right, all right, you are obviously folks.

1141
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I heard probably let you know we're talking about this.

1142
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:18.320
<v Speaker 2>So let me let me go ahead and start here

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01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:21.760
<v Speaker 2>on your tweets. So I was just talking with Paul,

1144
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:25.320
<v Speaker 2>and Paul says that when you use implicit bias in

1145
01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:30.559
<v Speaker 2>that tweet, it doesn't have racial connotations. Explain that to me,

1146
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:33.960
<v Speaker 2>because I that's where I hear it utilized. And as

1147
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:37.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, race is a big discussion topic, not just

1148
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:40.360
<v Speaker 2>in Durham but in America right now. So help me

1149
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:43.119
<v Speaker 2>to understand what it was you were implying when you

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01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:44.440
<v Speaker 2>used implicit bias.

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01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:44.800
<v Speaker 4>Please.

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01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:49.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Well, you know, when you use amplicit bius, it

1153
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:53.960
<v Speaker 5>means that you are you are sort of having a

1154
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:58.800
<v Speaker 5>concrete perspective, and that could be either race, or it

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01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:01.400
<v Speaker 5>could be tie. It could be you know, of a

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01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:04.280
<v Speaker 5>certain group of people, it could be a certain demographic

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01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:08.199
<v Speaker 5>U and that that So what I'm really referred to

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01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:14.599
<v Speaker 5>is the perspective in which the reporting or the subject

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01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:15.880
<v Speaker 5>matter is being angled at.

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01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:20.159
<v Speaker 2>The crazy thing to me is if you told me

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01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:23.119
<v Speaker 2>a TV station wrote an article like that, Ari would

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01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:26.119
<v Speaker 2>be the last one I would assume for two reasons. One,

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01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:29.280
<v Speaker 2>people tend to think that they're they're they're a little

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01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:32.119
<v Speaker 2>more liberal, but also they have the parent company has

1165
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:35.719
<v Speaker 2>a significant invested financial interest in your city, sir, So

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01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:38.559
<v Speaker 2>why do you think Aril did that? And do you

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01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:39.960
<v Speaker 2>disagree with the numbers.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I think that's the main point here. It's not

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01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:49.000
<v Speaker 5>really about the numbers, it's about the approach to the numbers.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I wouldn't have said anything. Of all people,

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01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:56.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm the last one to get involved with h You're

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01:01:56.239 --> 01:01:59.320
<v Speaker 5>talking about a news story. But when you do it

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01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:03.960
<v Speaker 5>address analysis from only Durham or people who have a

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<v Speaker 5>Durham resident a Dorham address, that's one thing, you know,

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01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:11.519
<v Speaker 5>and that's what they did. But if you know the

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01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:14.760
<v Speaker 5>address analysis and do it up the entire timegle you know,

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01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:18.480
<v Speaker 5>tell me about crime from people who are committee crime

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01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:21.039
<v Speaker 5>and Durham, from from Raleigh or from Greensboro.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious though. No, no, no, no, that's a that's a

1180
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:26.840
<v Speaker 2>totally fair point. So what is what is? What have

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01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:30.039
<v Speaker 2>you seen from Raleigh residents coming to Durham. Has there

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01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:31.800
<v Speaker 2>been one hundred and fifty percent uptick?

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<v Speaker 5>No? And I'm not looking at that. That's what the

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01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:39.639
<v Speaker 5>question is. Why is the crime happening where it is?

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01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:42.519
<v Speaker 5>And you know, the chrime that's happening is not a

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01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:45.760
<v Speaker 5>reflection of the city itself or the community itself. It's

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01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.760
<v Speaker 5>a reflection of the indivisual now, of course there are

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01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:52.880
<v Speaker 5>there are There are long historical reasons why, you know,

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01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:57.760
<v Speaker 5>certain communities are experiencing more of these activities than others,

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01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:00.239
<v Speaker 5>and we can go down a long rabbit hole of

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01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:02.840
<v Speaker 5>why that is what it is, you know, from federal

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01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:06.199
<v Speaker 5>government policy to public housing, the philotophosle.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you know this, and here's what I'm sorry,

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01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:09.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to cut you.

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01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to pose you.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to take a holistic approach to it.

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01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm only pausing you because I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that because I have this segment, I have a minute

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01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:18.320
<v Speaker 2>and a half, I want to make sure that you'll

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01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:20.400
<v Speaker 2>be willing to hang over so that we can have

1202
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:22.840
<v Speaker 2>about a ten minute conversation in addition to this at

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01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:23.280
<v Speaker 2>the top.

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01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Of the hour, because I don't want to leave.

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01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of questions and like legitimate, genuine,

1206
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:30.840
<v Speaker 2>honest questions and uh and I'm so glad that you

1207
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:33.960
<v Speaker 2>called in, so you'll do that. Okay, wonderful, I saw

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01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:38.119
<v Speaker 2>have a minute and a half here. I disagree that

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01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:41.320
<v Speaker 2>it's not the crime that you see, especially the way

1210
01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:43.719
<v Speaker 2>it's perceived the media. I understand the media is going

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01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:45.599
<v Speaker 2>to do some of that, but the facts and the

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01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:47.960
<v Speaker 2>numbers of the facts. Five people were shot in seventy

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01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:50.639
<v Speaker 2>two hours, three of them are killed. We don't disagree

1214
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.079
<v Speaker 2>with that. And to say that it's the individual is

1215
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:57.440
<v Speaker 2>half true. But also the city, yourself and your police

1216
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.920
<v Speaker 2>department are tasked with dealing with that, so there is

1217
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:03.239
<v Speaker 2>a community aspect to it. It may not be the

1218
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:07.320
<v Speaker 2>individual members, but rather those elected, such as yourself. You

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01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:09.159
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't disagree with that that you ever seen.

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<v Speaker 5>We're we're not denying that at all. I'm not down that.

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01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:15.440
<v Speaker 5>I am not denying that at all, not at all.

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01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:18.400
<v Speaker 2>We are all wrapped up and what it's I think

1223
01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:20.880
<v Speaker 2>it's an important topic and I'm glad we're having this conversation.

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01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:25.280
<v Speaker 2>And that is Durham specifically the focus of a wr

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01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:29.119
<v Speaker 2>L article where they talked about numbers of people arrested

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01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:33.199
<v Speaker 2>in adjacent communities who reside in Durham and the year

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01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:35.719
<v Speaker 2>over your increase and the city of Kerry was really

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01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:38.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of the big one they focused on, and it

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01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:41.159
<v Speaker 2>saw a one hundred and fifty percent year over your increase.

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01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Morrisville as well. And we've now got a chance to

1231
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and he's on hold, let me bring him up here.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mayor of Durham, Leonardo Williams, joins us. Let me

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01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:54.800
<v Speaker 2>ask you a question. When you saw that article come out, mayor,

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01:04:55.639 --> 01:04:59.280
<v Speaker 2>did you call the Kerry mayor or the Morrisville mayor,

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01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:00.960
<v Speaker 2>like I want to Here's what I want to. I

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01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:04.079
<v Speaker 2>want to know you guys recognize this is an issue

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01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:06.119
<v Speaker 2>and you're you're trying to work together, and I hope

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01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:06.519
<v Speaker 2>you did that.

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01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you do that?

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01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:14.440
<v Speaker 5>Oh? Absolutely? Absolutely? Listen, we talked actually pretty often. How

1241
01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:16.679
<v Speaker 5>do you think we got one point three billion dollars

1242
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:21.000
<v Speaker 5>of the triangle. We did that collectively, So yeah, we

1243
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:21.920
<v Speaker 5>have a regulationship.

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01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, And uh, how did that conversation go on this issue,

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01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:28.559
<v Speaker 2>because I mean what wow?

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01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:32.320
<v Speaker 5>Well, I specifically spoke with the Lawley manor. We sleep

1247
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:35.519
<v Speaker 5>all the time. When the first when the story first

1248
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:38.800
<v Speaker 5>came out, I only saw the headline in the teether,

1249
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:43.239
<v Speaker 5>and you know it was it was Waite County in general,

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01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:46.280
<v Speaker 5>so I didn't know what specific area it was speaking

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01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:50.760
<v Speaker 5>up and I knew of to find out. Okay, this

1252
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:53.239
<v Speaker 5>is probably going to be an issue. I can I

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01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:56.320
<v Speaker 5>don't see you know, other I don't see the triangle

1254
01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:58.320
<v Speaker 5>looked at as a whole and that was that was

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01:05:58.320 --> 01:05:59.119
<v Speaker 5>part of an issue.

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01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:01.920
<v Speaker 2>No, that's fair. I see it as an opportunity. I mean,

1257
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:04.840
<v Speaker 2>it's horrible stuff that we're talking about. Well, yeah, I

1258
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:06.719
<v Speaker 2>mean I see it as an opportunity. And when I

1259
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:10.960
<v Speaker 2>feel that it came across that you were rejecting the premise,

1260
01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:13.719
<v Speaker 2>and I'll take you at your word if that's not

1261
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:16.360
<v Speaker 2>the case. But I want to understand two things. One

1262
01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:20.920
<v Speaker 2>do you think when people say things like, oh, here's

1263
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:23.719
<v Speaker 2>like if you offer somebody tickets to show a dpak,

1264
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:26.760
<v Speaker 2>which is an amazing facility. I can't say that enough.

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01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:29.599
<v Speaker 2>We've done many things over there, you know, the attitude

1266
01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:31.199
<v Speaker 2>where people go, yeah, but I don't want to. I

1267
01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:31.760
<v Speaker 2>don't want to go to.

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01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Durham at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that that's born from racism or do

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<v Speaker 2>you think that that's people looking at numbers and going eh,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not. But where do you think that comes from?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it could be either. Ord I'm the last one

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<v Speaker 5>to jump to racism. I think that you know, we

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<v Speaker 5>definitely can't ignore that racism exists. But that's not my

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<v Speaker 5>that's not the basis of what I'm you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>angler that I'm taking for me. It was it was,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the numbers dollar true, the numbers dollar what

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<v Speaker 5>they are, but also there's more.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I totally agree with you. I totally

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing that and I mean this honestly, and

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<v Speaker 2>I brought it up with Paul. The thing that will

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<v Speaker 2>stick in my mind of Durham stories and don't get

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<v Speaker 2>me wrong, Raleigh's cut there is great we broadcast in Greensboro,

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<v Speaker 2>Winston Salem as well, high point we're rolling to try

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<v Speaker 2>it is the thing that sticks out to me in

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<v Speaker 2>Durham from a from a bad standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of good thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>But the bad thing is that young that that little

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<v Speaker 2>boy thought he was going to go get a snow

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<v Speaker 2>cone and instead he got a bullet, okay, And and

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<v Speaker 2>stories like that, And then I see people at McDougall

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<v Speaker 2>getting you know, people's grandmother getting interviewed and she's scared

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to the reporter even though she's living in

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<v Speaker 2>a situation that socioeconomically she can't pull herself out of.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, my heart goes out to that. And so

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<v Speaker 2>my question is obviously you're new the number, you're over

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<v Speaker 2>your numbers, you're not on you although you were on

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<v Speaker 2>the council. What are you doing to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty five this conversation goes differently.

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<v Speaker 5>So before I just want to just really quickly, as

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<v Speaker 5>I'm answered your question, just make sure we're careful with

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<v Speaker 5>the framing because it gives a false houk to the

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<v Speaker 5>community that Okay, the mayor is going to say something

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<v Speaker 5>in the econm is going to stop. I know you're

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<v Speaker 5>not exagerating.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, but if you did, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>would have. Yeah, if you could just say something, you would.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely absolutely So.

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<v Speaker 17>So what I want to say is, you know there

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<v Speaker 17>is no in America where we enjoy the luxury of

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<v Speaker 17>free speech, and you know we have the ability to do.

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<v Speaker 5>What we want for the most part, there is no

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<v Speaker 5>way possible I'm going to be able to control the

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<v Speaker 5>individual acts of an individual. And I think we all

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<v Speaker 5>can agree on that. And let me tell you, let

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<v Speaker 5>me be the first to say, any person that is

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<v Speaker 5>doing anything at my city that is trying to harm someone,

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<v Speaker 5>we are I'm it for you, all right. We have

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<v Speaker 5>one of the dost law enforcements out there. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>we all understand that we don't want folks doing hurt,

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<v Speaker 5>and I am not going to make any excuse for

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<v Speaker 5>any criminal or any bad actor. I'm coming for you

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<v Speaker 5>and I want you to just in badly an you

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<v Speaker 5>want anyone else. So that's one thing. But what I

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<v Speaker 5>can control is how we respond to these things and

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<v Speaker 5>how proactive we can be in policy. Now. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to choose Duram like this the dictatorship either, because

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<v Speaker 5>I have this is Nortona defiance strong mayors. We have

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<v Speaker 5>council manager systems, so I have to work with the

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<v Speaker 5>body of people to create policy that is responsive or

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<v Speaker 5>in the best interest of the overall people. We have

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<v Speaker 5>different perspectives on that. For example, we had shock Father,

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<v Speaker 5>we voted it down. I got to up vote it

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<v Speaker 5>all thought that was gont think we needed to steffire

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<v Speaker 5>that was going to be that. Yeah, I am pissed

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<v Speaker 5>off to this day about that, you know, because the

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<v Speaker 5>residus number one response was more public safety, so that

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<v Speaker 5>was an issue and where at me, I'll say, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what, I gotta voted. You know, I'm disappointed about it,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm not going to stop. I'm not going to

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01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:11.000
<v Speaker 5>give us, you know, So so what I can say is,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I can control creating a fund that invests

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<v Speaker 5>into organizations that are saving kids, because we have thousands

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01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:22.039
<v Speaker 5>that we're saving from these streets, but we do have

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<v Speaker 5>some that are in trenchs in an environment that is

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<v Speaker 5>so unfortunate. And me those things already on our control,

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01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:31.920
<v Speaker 5>like the federal housing. You know, they underfund federal housing,

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01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:34.800
<v Speaker 5>their housing abilities that every single community deals with. That

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<v Speaker 5>probably helping you, but people don't go to live on

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<v Speaker 5>as you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not implying that you face challenges, and arguably

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<v Speaker 2>you face more because you have a higher percentage of

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<v Speaker 2>folks that are dipping into those products. So with that

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<v Speaker 2>in mind, though, when the numbers go in one direction

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<v Speaker 2>or the other, and for many many many years, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>when we have about just a couple of minutes left,

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<v Speaker 2>so and I'll let you have the last word after this.

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<v Speaker 2>But for many years, these programs have been going They've

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<v Speaker 2>been going on since I've been broadcasting in the Triangle,

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<v Speaker 2>which is you know, twelve years, thirteen years almost, and

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in Minneapolis where in the fourth Ward in

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<v Speaker 2>North Minneapolis, all of these same issues presented, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of these save programs, and until they got in Hennepin County,

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota when they finally got a little tough front crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Although they've gone in a different direction now, they started

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<v Speaker 2>to see real progress there. So do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>there's more incarcerating, arresting that needs to happen in addition

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<v Speaker 2>to education.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 5>I think that, You know, we had different segments of

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<v Speaker 5>the government and everyone has to pour their way. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm the mayor of the city, but I have to

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<v Speaker 5>work with my calcul I have to work with the

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<v Speaker 5>county commissioners, the school board, the DA, the judges, the court,

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<v Speaker 5>the jail, the police, the share off. Everyone has to

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<v Speaker 5>pour their weight and we have to work in tandem.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I want to be very clear, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>running from our issues. How we tell the story abound

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<v Speaker 5>our issues is what I an issue with, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming on the show, we appreciate it, sir, I really do.

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<v Speaker 5>I would never run from a conversation and I've never

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<v Speaker 5>run from the truth. But also we'll always tell the

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<v Speaker 5>full story. Those numbers that were reported are actually accurate.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never said they were not. You know, but to

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<v Speaker 5>only look at Durham, you know that that's wish you

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<v Speaker 5>and I asked the question. I said, well, did we

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<v Speaker 5>ask why the chrome is happening where it is? Is

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<v Speaker 5>that something we need to look at. Did we look

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<v Speaker 5>at how much chrome was coming into Durha from other places?

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<v Speaker 5>And none of that was looked at only Durham Sawait County.

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<v Speaker 5>And I said, we got to tell you have to

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<v Speaker 5>tell the full story because the reputation matters. Reputation hands

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<v Speaker 5>values and uh. Interestingly enough, rent Cafe, a national research organization,

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<v Speaker 5>named Durham the forty first liverpool city in the nation

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<v Speaker 5>and the number one most livable city in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, you guys have amazing Look. I almost I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you something. I almost. I was almost living

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<v Speaker 1>in your city.

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<v Speaker 2>I was two seconds away from taking a condo on

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<v Speaker 2>Chapel Hill Street there.

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<v Speaker 1>I love, love the place.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a beautiful place to be.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, but we shared those issues like other places too,

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<v Speaker 17>you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's unfortunately because we do have a higher concentration.

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<v Speaker 5>H I served certain demograph lets that that are in

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<v Speaker 5>certain you know, situation. Uh, but that doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 5>that's what they fine in our city, you know. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's what as the mayor of the city, I want

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<v Speaker 5>to speak up, you know, on behalf of the community

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<v Speaker 5>and the half of micos here to say we would

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<v Speaker 5>not let our challenges defind us, but more so, we

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<v Speaker 5>would tell our full story. And that's why people were

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<v Speaker 5>truly appreciated. I don't rest in those competitions that are

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<v Speaker 5>out refrom the truth. I just make sure we tell

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<v Speaker 5>the whole story, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, and I mean there's slightly tongue

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<v Speaker 2>in cheek. If you get a rash to carry soccerman's

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<v Speaker 2>coming to Durham to do carjackings out of their Lincoln Navigators,

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<v Speaker 2>you let me know because I just I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see what that looks like. And and but but on

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<v Speaker 2>a serious note, I really appreciate you calling, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to I'm gonna put you on hold. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that we have We're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>harass you. But I want a contact info and when

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<v Speaker 2>stuff comes up, I will call you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, please do please do I welcome it. I got

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<v Speaker 5>a call from some of your listeners this morning. I oh, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, let me get on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's respond that's all I can. I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that.

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<v Speaker 2>Every other person in in Durham government over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>with the exception of the former police chief ten years

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<v Speaker 2>ago whose name escapes me, we never get callback, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we did. I'm gonna throw you on hold, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate your time, Okay, all right, yeah, there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that is the mayor of Durham, Leonardo Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna chat with Stephen Kent coming up. I know

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<v Speaker 2>there's some of you on hold right now who want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about what we just talked about, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you hold, I promise we'll get to your calls before

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the show. But right now, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to take a break. KCODA Radio Programs even Ken here momentarily,

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<v Speaker 2>our nerd corresponding, because we got a whole host of

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<v Speaker 2>things we're gonna go over.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to chat with him.

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<v Speaker 2>We just got we got a few minutes in this segment,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we'll segment three. There's four segments, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>so segment three will continue, and then we got a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of callers hanging. If they hang on, I promised

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<v Speaker 2>I would get to both of you before the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the show. So it's just kind of a weird

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<v Speaker 2>day around here. But that's how we do things, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Kent? How you doing this morning, sir? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 5>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>I just got the call a little bit ago that

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<v Speaker 3>I will be joining the Trump administration as the Secretary

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<v Speaker 3>of Entertainment Agriculture, which is very exciting, first time position

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<v Speaker 3>for anyone in the administration.

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<v Speaker 2>Entertainment. What did it would do when you saw the

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<v Speaker 2>Doge thing? What went through your head?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we live in a very serious country and

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<v Speaker 3>these are very serious times, so we need a Doge department.

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<v Speaker 3>How could you be against that?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say I was against her four, but it

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<v Speaker 2>obviously hits different when it's a presidential cabinet getting put

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<v Speaker 2>in together and we're putting out memes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I again, people.

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<v Speaker 2>Are going to look half the country's going to hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Half I'm probably going to love it. The question is,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think that they'll be able to accomplish what

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the heaviest lifts I've ever heard promised?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, the amount of the amount of kind

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01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:16.960
<v Speaker 3>of glut that they're going to need to cut from

1478
01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:20.079
<v Speaker 3>the federal government is going to be unprecedented. But I

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01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:22.720
<v Speaker 3>actually do think these two guys are just wily enough

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01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:25.159
<v Speaker 3>to do it. I'm pretty optimistic about what we're going

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01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:27.560
<v Speaker 3>to see happen here, and they did answer one question

1482
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:30.159
<v Speaker 3>I had, which is, wait, so we're going to shrink

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01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:33.800
<v Speaker 3>the size of the federal government by creating a new agency.

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01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:37.159
<v Speaker 3>But I guess what's going to happen is the Doze

1485
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:41.279
<v Speaker 3>Department is going to expire in twenty twenty six as

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01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:44.840
<v Speaker 3>an outside of government entity. So we're not adding to

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01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:46.039
<v Speaker 3>the problem, which is good.

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01:16:46.439 --> 01:16:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, it doesn't mean they can't find a way to

1489
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:51.079
<v Speaker 2>screw it up and snatch a defeat from the jaws

1490
01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of victory, as we say round these parts. An I

1491
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:56.239
<v Speaker 2>don't want to spend too much time as we've got

1492
01:16:56.279 --> 01:16:58.039
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of stuff to get to. You're looking at

1493
01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:01.920
<v Speaker 2>the appointments coming down, any anything that you found really

1494
01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:05.520
<v Speaker 2>surprising or something you're like, yeah, yeah, that's probably probably

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01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:07.079
<v Speaker 2>a good thing. And we haven't even gotten into the

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01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:10.520
<v Speaker 2>agencies that really oversee a lot of the entertainment industry

1497
01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:14.560
<v Speaker 2>that we that we look at, and as you know,

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01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:16.800
<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration has a very low opinion of the

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01:17:16.840 --> 01:17:19.359
<v Speaker 2>news media, So please speak on both of those.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's right.

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01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:26.319
<v Speaker 3>So probably the one that I was most surprised well

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01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:30.000
<v Speaker 3>there's Matt Gates. Okay, So Matt Gates as Attorney General

1503
01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:34.159
<v Speaker 3>is really out of left field, and I have liked

1504
01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:37.680
<v Speaker 3>almost every appointment that has been made so far for

1505
01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:41.880
<v Speaker 3>the upcoming administration. I have concerns about Matt Gates's ability

1506
01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:45.039
<v Speaker 3>to execute in a serious way on everything that the

1507
01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Trump administration is going to need to do to be

1508
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:50.279
<v Speaker 3>effective and win the legal battles that are inevitably going

1509
01:17:50.319 --> 01:17:53.000
<v Speaker 3>to come their way. On everything that they want to do,

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01:17:53.159 --> 01:17:58.399
<v Speaker 3>from immigration enforcement deportations to taking on the college universities

1511
01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:03.760
<v Speaker 3>and sticking uh it to them on discriminate discriminatory practices,

1512
01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:06.840
<v Speaker 3>and watching Title nine across the country, They're going to

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01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:13.039
<v Speaker 3>need a really good agree.

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01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:12.520
<v Speaker 2>It's the most important appointment. I think it's as my

1515
01:18:12.800 --> 01:18:14.880
<v Speaker 2>other and vice president. We can debate, but that's that's

1516
01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:17.960
<v Speaker 2>a that's a more of a campaign thing. Really, this

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01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:21.279
<v Speaker 2>is the most important appointment. A g Right, you would agree.

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01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:24.039
<v Speaker 3>I would say I would say Secretary of State and

1519
01:18:24.119 --> 01:18:26.199
<v Speaker 3>AG are the two most important.

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01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, yeah, I think with that, but I think

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01:18:29.159 --> 01:18:31.319
<v Speaker 2>with the AG. The difference with Secretary is that you're

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01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:33.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna have people fighting you every step of the way

1523
01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:35.600
<v Speaker 2>because it's how we do politics. But they're going to

1524
01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:38.399
<v Speaker 2>be fighting for their own personal lives. Do you know

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01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:40.479
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying when you get into the ag stuff,

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01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Because let's face it, there's some the government's too big

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01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:45.880
<v Speaker 2>for there not to be criminals in there. It's just

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01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:48.119
<v Speaker 2>a discussion of how many and where they are.

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01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:52.760
<v Speaker 5>No, absolutely, So that's one I think.

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01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:55.039
<v Speaker 3>The other one that I was pretty surprised by was

1531
01:18:55.119 --> 01:18:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Christy malm as Homeland secretary. Homeland Security secretary. You know,

1532
01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Percy competent. It's it's surprising though he's a perfectly competent person.

1533
01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:07.840
<v Speaker 3>She's run South Dakota incredibly well, but she just really

1534
01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:09.760
<v Speaker 3>took that pr hit in the past year.

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01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:12.840
<v Speaker 5>No dog executions.

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01:19:13.840 --> 01:19:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you know that strays are a big issue down

1537
01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:16.439
<v Speaker 1>on the border, right?

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01:19:17.359 --> 01:19:19.960
<v Speaker 5>I know, I know all about it. She's gonna she's

1539
01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:21.119
<v Speaker 5>gonna do a great job.

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01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:24.640
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, if anybody trying to stand up against her,

1541
01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:26.119
<v Speaker 3>she'll drag them to the gravel pit.

1542
01:19:26.840 --> 01:19:28.760
<v Speaker 2>And I just want to be clear when I say strays,

1543
01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean actual dogs.

1544
01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:31.359
<v Speaker 4>You you people?

1545
01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:35.600
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I'm talking like it is an actual problem.

1546
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:38.680
<v Speaker 2>It's actually an actual problem in a lot of places

1547
01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:39.520
<v Speaker 2>in Latin America.

1548
01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:40.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's along the Mexican border.

1549
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:43.960
<v Speaker 2>It's especially on the California side, like they haven't come

1550
01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.159
<v Speaker 2>and popping through that fence. I just I only know

1551
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:48.640
<v Speaker 2>this because I lived in California for school, and I

1552
01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:51.479
<v Speaker 2>remember thinking, Oh, they didn't build the planks wide enough

1553
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:53.560
<v Speaker 2>down in San Diego, and the dogs get through. And

1554
01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:57.000
<v Speaker 2>it's we're chatting with Stephen Kent though, and uh, since

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01:19:57.039 --> 01:20:00.920
<v Speaker 2>he has our official NERD correspondent, let's go ahead and

1556
01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:03.520
<v Speaker 2>get into a few things. All right, let's talk about

1557
01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:05.920
<v Speaker 2>if you guys don't know Rachel Ziggler, is you do?

1558
01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:13.239
<v Speaker 2>She is Disney's snow white who made a little news

1559
01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:17.279
<v Speaker 2>when she essentially crapped on the source material and it

1560
01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:20.479
<v Speaker 2>went all through the identity politics and it didn't play well.

1561
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:24.479
<v Speaker 2>And so I thought that at the very least she

1562
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:27.920
<v Speaker 2>just shut up now, or at the very least about

1563
01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:31.199
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. And no, she did not. She has lost

1564
01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:33.880
<v Speaker 2>her crap. She joins the long line of other celebrities

1565
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:35.520
<v Speaker 2>who are probably just going to go scream into the

1566
01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:38.640
<v Speaker 2>echo chamber that is Blue Sky. But it's more than

1567
01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:41.840
<v Speaker 2>just them. It's news agencies and outlets too. Man Like,

1568
01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:45.239
<v Speaker 2>let's let's combine those two one do you think Disney

1569
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:47.520
<v Speaker 2>told her not to do that or they just like whatever.

1570
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Even though that movie opens what early next spring, it's

1571
01:20:50.920 --> 01:20:52.720
<v Speaker 2>not even out yet, And what do you think of

1572
01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:54.840
<v Speaker 2>all these celebrities pulling the ripcord man.

1573
01:20:55.640 --> 01:20:58.479
<v Speaker 3>I'm still not convinced that this snow White movie from

1574
01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Disney is ever actually going to come out, and when

1575
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:03.319
<v Speaker 3>it does, they'll probably rush it to Disney Plus and

1576
01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:05.880
<v Speaker 3>try to act like it never happened. But you know,

1577
01:21:05.960 --> 01:21:11.479
<v Speaker 3>Rachel Ziggler, who is a relatively unsuccessful actress activists posing

1578
01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:14.399
<v Speaker 3>as somebody who's going to be famous one day, she

1579
01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:18.119
<v Speaker 3>is kind of just clowning herself on Instagram here. I mean,

1580
01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:20.239
<v Speaker 3>what she is talking about here is all this peace

1581
01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:22.880
<v Speaker 3>and love and kumbayav that's going to be destroyed by

1582
01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:25.039
<v Speaker 3>four years of a Trump administration.

1583
01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:25.560
<v Speaker 10>And then she.

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01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Concludes this message on Instagram talking about how afraid people

1585
01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:32.359
<v Speaker 3>are and how we need a country with less hate

1586
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:34.960
<v Speaker 3>by saying that she wishes seventy five million people in

1587
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:37.920
<v Speaker 3>the country never find peace. This is the kind of

1588
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.720
<v Speaker 3>about face that you expect from these people. As they

1589
01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:43.199
<v Speaker 3>head on over to Blue Sky with Jamie Lee Curtis

1590
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:46.399
<v Speaker 3>and Don Lennon and Bette Midler and apparently the Guardian

1591
01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:48.840
<v Speaker 3>from the UK is just leaving Twitter altogether.

1592
01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:52.159
<v Speaker 5>Well, but you know what, they'll always come back.

1593
01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:54.399
<v Speaker 2>One of our TV stations did they have a half

1594
01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:58.439
<v Speaker 2>million followers on Twitter and they just they're out. They're

1595
01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:00.319
<v Speaker 2>out now. A lot of the reporters are still on Twitter.

1596
01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:03.880
<v Speaker 2>They're out a half million followers. That's nothing to sneeze

1597
01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:06.960
<v Speaker 2>at as somebody who lives, you know, in the internet

1598
01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:10.840
<v Speaker 2>to monetization world, such as yourself, right, that's.

1599
01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:12.840
<v Speaker 1>That at the very least, you got to respect the

1600
01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:14.560
<v Speaker 1>walk away there.

1601
01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:17.560
<v Speaker 2>But also doesn't it just turn into the left parlor

1602
01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:19.399
<v Speaker 2>at this point and maybe they're okay with it.

1603
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is why I really believe that most of

1604
01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:27.199
<v Speaker 3>these people will be back. I also tried exiting Twitter

1605
01:22:27.239 --> 01:22:29.560
<v Speaker 3>at one point for an alternative platform. I went and

1606
01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:31.720
<v Speaker 3>tried that god forsaken.

1607
01:22:31.359 --> 01:22:32.399
<v Speaker 5>Place known as parlor.

1608
01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:36.640
<v Speaker 3>When you get into an echo chamber environment where everybody

1609
01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:40.800
<v Speaker 3>is fleeing for ideological reasons and coming there, whether it's

1610
01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:45.119
<v Speaker 3>a conservative or a progressive outlet, it's actually just really

1611
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:48.760
<v Speaker 3>exhausting agreeing with everybody all day. The quality of the

1612
01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:53.720
<v Speaker 3>content and the disagreement is lame and boring. And I

1613
01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:55.880
<v Speaker 3>think most of these people will get bored when they

1614
01:22:55.960 --> 01:22:58.319
<v Speaker 3>get on there and they all discuss how great socialism

1615
01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:00.760
<v Speaker 3>is and there's nobody that actually be mad at.

1616
01:23:01.640 --> 01:23:02.319
<v Speaker 5>They'll come back.

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01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:05.439
<v Speaker 2>They always do well and and uh, and it goes

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01:23:05.479 --> 01:23:07.760
<v Speaker 2>to and it goes to a uh. To your point,

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01:23:07.760 --> 01:23:11.600
<v Speaker 2>that is exactly the thing that is the most is

1620
01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:13.600
<v Speaker 2>one of the most boring things to me. And that

1621
01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:16.720
<v Speaker 2>was the problem I had with Parlor. You post something

1622
01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:19.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's nothing but likes. I like it on Twitter

1623
01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:21.880
<v Speaker 2>when people push back, although it happens less. The reason

1624
01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:24.239
<v Speaker 2>we're going a little later with you today is because

1625
01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:27.199
<v Speaker 2>we were talking to the mayor and and UH, an

1626
01:23:27.239 --> 01:23:30.640
<v Speaker 2>activist who felt that I was misrepresenting what's going on

1627
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:34.079
<v Speaker 2>in the city of Durham. I welcome those conversations. I

1628
01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:36.680
<v Speaker 2>love those, and I think that we've gotten so far

1629
01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:41.039
<v Speaker 2>away from that on both sides that it's I don't know.

1630
01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:43.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they come back, like is it

1631
01:23:43.439 --> 01:23:47.319
<v Speaker 2>worth Bett Middler's time? If she because that's I don't

1632
01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:48.520
<v Speaker 2>think it dawns upon her.

1633
01:23:50.640 --> 01:23:52.479
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think it does either. And at the

1634
01:23:52.560 --> 01:23:56.119
<v Speaker 3>end of the day, these are truly and deeply irrelevant

1635
01:23:56.119 --> 01:24:00.640
<v Speaker 3>people who are only kept in the mainstream conversation by

1636
01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:04.319
<v Speaker 3>legacy news outlets who act like they are still important

1637
01:24:04.359 --> 01:24:06.159
<v Speaker 3>in American culture, and they're not.

1638
01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:07.399
<v Speaker 5>They just aren't.

1639
01:24:08.279 --> 01:24:11.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, we're We talked last week on the show

1640
01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:15.479
<v Speaker 3>about the numbers, the difference and statistics between the average

1641
01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:18.720
<v Speaker 3>download of a Theo Vaughn or Joe Rogan episode versus

1642
01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:23.359
<v Speaker 3>prime time on CNN. You know, these are not competitive

1643
01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:26.520
<v Speaker 3>and serious people. So yeah, I don't think the world

1644
01:24:26.520 --> 01:24:29.640
<v Speaker 3>will miss that Midler. And nobody knows who Rachel Zegler

1645
01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:30.640
<v Speaker 3>is anyways.

1646
01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:34.159
<v Speaker 2>Finally, and I'm gonna I didn't throw this to you

1647
01:24:34.600 --> 01:24:37.439
<v Speaker 2>or maybe Ross forded it to you, So we got

1648
01:24:37.479 --> 01:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>to talk to Harry Potter TV Show real quick. And

1649
01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:41.520
<v Speaker 2>this is this is part of a bigger thing. But

1650
01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:46.239
<v Speaker 2>we're a little tripped on time here. I gn IGN,

1651
01:24:46.880 --> 01:24:49.119
<v Speaker 2>which I don't they write about video games and stuff.

1652
01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:52.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm really in pop culture entertainment stuff, basically nerd stuff.

1653
01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that IGNU?

1654
01:24:54.880 --> 01:24:57.960
<v Speaker 3>That would be IGN unless they are waging war on

1655
01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:00.199
<v Speaker 3>jk Rowling, which is their other pastime.

1656
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:02.239
<v Speaker 1>This is the this is their tweet.

1657
01:25:02.319 --> 01:25:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Jk Rowling has been posting anti transgender rhetoric on X

1658
01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:10.439
<v Speaker 2>since twenty twenty will be involved in the new Harry

1659
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Potter TV show with HBO and Max Content. Blah blah

1660
01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:16.359
<v Speaker 2>blah bla. All right, So anyway, so their beef is

1661
01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:20.079
<v Speaker 2>that the person who created everything, Harry Potter, is going

1662
01:25:20.119 --> 01:25:23.960
<v Speaker 2>to advise and maybe have some control over a TV

1663
01:25:24.119 --> 01:25:27.319
<v Speaker 2>series about her product that she created out.

1664
01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Of thin air? Am I reading that right?

1665
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:33.720
<v Speaker 2>And Potter and wouldn't you want her involved?

1666
01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:34.279
<v Speaker 9>Well?

1667
01:25:34.279 --> 01:25:34.840
<v Speaker 4>What do I know?

1668
01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:36.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1669
01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:39.479
<v Speaker 3>You know, the whole Harry Potter situation is just a

1670
01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:44.960
<v Speaker 3>complete catastrophe. Most people who are just fans of Harry

1671
01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Potter have no interest or awareness of what goes on

1672
01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:51.960
<v Speaker 3>in these very oddline discussions about JK Rowling and her

1673
01:25:52.039 --> 01:25:55.800
<v Speaker 3>views that such as bat women exist and that they are,

1674
01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:58.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, not something that can just be created out

1675
01:25:58.119 --> 01:25:58.560
<v Speaker 3>of been air.

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01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:02.039
<v Speaker 5>Know, I know, I really believe that.

1677
01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:04.800
<v Speaker 3>I really believe that, and I don't. I don't think

1678
01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:07.439
<v Speaker 3>most people who follow this stuff are super aware.

1679
01:26:07.159 --> 01:26:07.920
<v Speaker 5>Of these debates.

1680
01:26:08.319 --> 01:26:13.199
<v Speaker 3>But the entertainment journalists who are incredibly politically radical, all

1681
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:15.760
<v Speaker 3>they do is obsessed about J. K Rawlling's involvement in

1682
01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:19.119
<v Speaker 3>her own intellectual property. I don't think that they've bought

1683
01:26:19.119 --> 01:26:21.760
<v Speaker 3>this away from her entirely, Like she is not George Lucas,

1684
01:26:22.640 --> 01:26:25.279
<v Speaker 3>She's hasn't given up Harry Potter. It still belongs to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So you think their beef is they are not

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<v Speaker 2>in a position to totally destroy it, because that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you think about the way that these

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01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:38.840
<v Speaker 3>people think about issues, I think that they were hoping

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<v Speaker 3>to get a chance to remake Harry Potter and transgressively

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01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:46.680
<v Speaker 3>fill it with trans propaganda from top to bottom, so

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01:26:46.760 --> 01:26:49.840
<v Speaker 3>that JK. Rowling would you know, be utterly owned and destroyed.

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<v Speaker 3>So the fact that she's going to be involved in

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01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:55.039
<v Speaker 3>it is sort of a hedge against that, and I

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01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:56.600
<v Speaker 3>think that's what they're actually mad at.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally, I was up in your fair Burg this this weekend,

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01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:03.039
<v Speaker 2>and you need to do a welfare check on some

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01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:05.039
<v Speaker 2>of the folks they're in the DC area because they

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01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:07.199
<v Speaker 2>are not doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>Conversations.

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01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Man, Oh you're in Pinehurst today, cool, I think there'll

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01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:14.720
<v Speaker 2>be a little more bane.

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01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:17.039
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just telling you. I was up in DC, man,

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01:27:17.079 --> 01:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's like I was sitting.

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01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I was sitting at the Dulles uh or coming in

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01:27:21.319 --> 01:27:24.319
<v Speaker 2>a dollis and then when I was leaving. But yeah,

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01:27:24.359 --> 01:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of people really really really getting their

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01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:30.600
<v Speaker 2>resumes in order. So is that your general feeling as

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01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.399
<v Speaker 2>you head to the suburbs like where you're from.

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01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:34.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a busy time.

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01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:37.119
<v Speaker 3>And you know, out in the suburbs of northern Virginia,

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01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:40.760
<v Speaker 3>most everybody works for the Pentagon or the FBI or

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01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:45.199
<v Speaker 3>some other uh you know, bureaucratic agency, and so everybody's

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01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:47.479
<v Speaker 3>just everybody's just getting their ducks in a row on

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01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:49.199
<v Speaker 3>what their next four years are going to look like

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01:27:49.279 --> 01:27:50.600
<v Speaker 3>or if they're going to retire early.

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01:27:51.159 --> 01:27:54.279
<v Speaker 1>All Right, Hey, I got a roll. We'll we'll we'll.

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01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Do our regular time next week. Oh and then we're

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01:27:56.079 --> 01:27:59.000
<v Speaker 2>creeping up on Thanksgiving, so definitely won't be doing that day.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, appreciate it her? All right, Okay, yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Stephen kunt Casey Oday Radio Program.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let me let me go ahead, and we're

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01:28:07.239 --> 01:28:09.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna I said, we get these calls, so everyone, I'm

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01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:11.159
<v Speaker 2>gonna give you both just a couple of minutes just

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01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:14.399
<v Speaker 2>FYI are on that, but we were gonna make the time,

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01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:21.600
<v Speaker 2>and we'll start with Sarah. Sarah, go right ahead, Hello, Sarah.

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01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:24.479
<v Speaker 2>That is That is exactly what I thought would happen.

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01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I tell Sarah she's welcome to hold if you can

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01:28:26.640 --> 01:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>get a hold of her, and I will hit her

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01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:29.720
<v Speaker 2>in the last segment, but I think she might have

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01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:32.039
<v Speaker 2>hung up. All right, Jamal, real quick, what's up?

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<v Speaker 5>You know what case?

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<v Speaker 9>The whole Durham conversation is what's wrong with Durham. All

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01:28:38.159 --> 01:28:41.920
<v Speaker 9>you heard was excuses and excuses and excuses and excuses.

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01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:45.319
<v Speaker 9>People need to face the fact there's a cultural problem

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01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:49.520
<v Speaker 9>in Durham. This ain't Jim Close. Segregation is stopping Durham.

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01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:52.680
<v Speaker 9>This ain't evil white folks this doing this and Durham

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01:28:52.720 --> 01:28:55.119
<v Speaker 9>this is black folk. This is black folk doing his

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01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:58.000
<v Speaker 9>shooting killing. This is black folk dying in the street.

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01:28:58.239 --> 01:29:02.680
<v Speaker 9>I said it long time though. You have people in

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01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:06.960
<v Speaker 9>Durham that are ePower that has no problem with this

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01:29:07.159 --> 01:29:11.560
<v Speaker 9>going on because they don't want to change what's going

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01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:15.840
<v Speaker 9>on because if they changed it, their constituents wouldn't vote

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01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:16.159
<v Speaker 9>the men.

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01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, they wouldn't voting. You listen to the interview with

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01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:23.439
<v Speaker 2>the mayor and just full disclosure. Didn't you ran for mayor?

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01:29:23.560 --> 01:29:23.720
<v Speaker 5>Right?

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01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:28.359
<v Speaker 9>Yes? I did against Yes, I did against it, laying

1749
01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:30.439
<v Speaker 9>on them and I told he laying. I told people,

1750
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:34.520
<v Speaker 9>then you cannot keep believing you can wrap your arm

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01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:40.319
<v Speaker 9>around criminals and bad behavior. As a Republican case, I

1752
01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:44.479
<v Speaker 9>have to admit Bill Clinton in the nineteen ninety fourth

1753
01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:50.560
<v Speaker 9>Crime Bill that Joe Biden helped push, saved black lives.

1754
01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:55.119
<v Speaker 9>It allowed black folkus to grow up in areas that

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01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:58.479
<v Speaker 9>was once ruled by the gang bangers and the drug dealers.

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01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:02.039
<v Speaker 9>Hen take black men home. It took drug dealers, it

1757
01:30:02.159 --> 01:30:06.600
<v Speaker 9>took gang bangles, it took criminals off the street, and

1758
01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:11.520
<v Speaker 9>it made the black community better. These people got out

1759
01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:16.760
<v Speaker 9>Star Crime bull Room on racism. And then people say, well,

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01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:18.359
<v Speaker 9>you know there, you're.

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01:30:18.319 --> 01:30:19.319
<v Speaker 5>Rocked my son up.

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01:30:19.359 --> 01:30:21.439
<v Speaker 9>Your son was sitting up here knocking people over their

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01:30:21.439 --> 01:30:24.800
<v Speaker 9>head because they came up five dollars short on twenty

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01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:29.520
<v Speaker 9>dollars worth of crime. So if it's not no changing, durm,

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01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:32.279
<v Speaker 9>why because they don't want it to change. They want

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01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:38.520
<v Speaker 9>things this false equivalent equivalency that racism and white is

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01:30:38.760 --> 01:30:42.800
<v Speaker 9>doing the problem. It's not until you get a district

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01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:46.279
<v Speaker 9>attorney and a sheriff that's willing to enforce the law,

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01:30:46.520 --> 01:30:51.960
<v Speaker 9>and the sheriff enforce it, the DA convicts it until

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01:30:52.039 --> 01:30:54.239
<v Speaker 9>you get that, and I'm gonna wrap it up to case.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm from Rocky Mount, North Carolina, Okay, and Rocky Mount,

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01:30:57.840 --> 01:31:03.039
<v Speaker 9>North Carolina. Rocky Mount is split between Nash and Edgecombe County.

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01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:08.399
<v Speaker 9>Everybody knows you do it foolishness in edge Combe County.

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01:31:08.600 --> 01:31:12.239
<v Speaker 9>You don't blanket over Nash County. Literally, Rocky Mount is

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01:31:12.279 --> 01:31:16.399
<v Speaker 9>split between the railroad tracks, and you know not to

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01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:19.960
<v Speaker 9>do it over in Nash County. Why because they will

1777
01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:24.119
<v Speaker 9>lock you up. Yes, Nash County predominantly white and conservative,

1778
01:31:24.359 --> 01:31:26.880
<v Speaker 9>but you got all your little bit Democrats predominantly black

1779
01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:31.319
<v Speaker 9>Edgecombe County and they shooting, fighting and doing everything jam

1780
01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:32.840
<v Speaker 9>but not in Nash County.

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01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:36.079
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you holding so long today. It's been a

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01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:37.479
<v Speaker 2>weird day. I got to roll though, because I gotta

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01:31:37.479 --> 01:31:38.760
<v Speaker 2>get to weather. But thank you very much.

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01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Race Agic from the Weather Channel.

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<v Speaker 16>Ray, what's happening on man that morning, Casey, believe it

1787
01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:48.680
<v Speaker 16>or not, though we do need the rainfall. Mentioned this

1788
01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:51.279
<v Speaker 16>a couple of times, how we've kind of gone from

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01:31:51.399 --> 01:31:54.680
<v Speaker 16>feast to famine on the rain since Helena. Now, generous

1790
01:31:54.720 --> 01:31:56.960
<v Speaker 16>rain totals continue to push in as the radar show

1791
01:31:56.960 --> 01:31:59.159
<v Speaker 16>and the rain showers out. You have the Tryad and

1792
01:31:59.319 --> 01:32:01.880
<v Speaker 16>back near ash and some of the hardest hit areas

1793
01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:04.560
<v Speaker 16>from Helene. No flooding expected, but maybe up to an

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01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:06.479
<v Speaker 16>inch of rain in some spots before we ended. As

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01:32:06.479 --> 01:32:09.000
<v Speaker 16>we head on through later today and tonight, pockets of

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01:32:09.079 --> 01:32:11.439
<v Speaker 16>modern heavy rain, and eventually we'll get the low out

1797
01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:13.479
<v Speaker 16>and we'll have some better weather coming in, maybe a

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01:32:13.560 --> 01:32:16.239
<v Speaker 16>shower left over early tomorrow, back in the sunshine, a

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01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:18.960
<v Speaker 16>sixty good looking weekend, back in the sixties, maybe seventy

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01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:23.119
<v Speaker 16>degrees by Monday, Tuesday and even Wednesday, with dry weather continuing.

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01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:26.439
<v Speaker 16>Still looking at maybe later next week getting a little

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01:32:26.479 --> 01:32:29.760
<v Speaker 16>bit cooler and into Thanksgiving week, maybe some cooler weather

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01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:33.119
<v Speaker 16>coming in. I think we're done, maybe with the seventies

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01:32:33.159 --> 01:32:35.880
<v Speaker 16>after about Wednesday Thursday of next week. But we'll see.

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01:32:36.039 --> 01:32:37.880
<v Speaker 16>As a longer range guide, it's certainly got a little

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01:32:37.920 --> 01:32:40.479
<v Speaker 16>bit more tricky than the short term. So old out casey.

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01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:42.439
<v Speaker 16>Looks like a rainy day today, good day to take

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01:32:42.479 --> 01:32:44.319
<v Speaker 16>a nap. After that, looks like we'll be in pretty

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01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:46.600
<v Speaker 16>good shape after very early tomorrow morning.

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01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:49.479
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, we'll keep it in the seventies. We'll

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01:32:49.479 --> 01:32:52.119
<v Speaker 2>be back Jeff Bellinger. Next, Jeff, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 18>Good morning, Casey. New data from Washington suggests inflation is

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01:32:56.520 --> 01:32:59.039
<v Speaker 18>still headed in the right direction and the job market

1814
01:32:59.119 --> 01:33:02.840
<v Speaker 18>remains strong. The Producer Price Index, this is the government's

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01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:06.560
<v Speaker 18>gauge of wholesale inflation, was up two tenths percent last month.

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01:33:06.840 --> 01:33:10.000
<v Speaker 18>The PPI was up two point four percent year over year.

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01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:13.119
<v Speaker 18>The Labor Department says the number of workers filing new

1818
01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:17.000
<v Speaker 18>claims for unemployment benefits fell by four thousand last week.

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01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:19.800
<v Speaker 18>Investors are anxious now to hear what Fed chaired your

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01:33:19.880 --> 01:33:22.760
<v Speaker 18>own Powell We'll have to say about inflation and jobs.

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01:33:22.760 --> 01:33:26.239
<v Speaker 18>He'll be speaking later today in Dallas. Household debt hit

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01:33:26.279 --> 01:33:28.960
<v Speaker 18>a record high nearly eighteen trillion dollars in.

1823
01:33:28.920 --> 01:33:29.640
<v Speaker 4>The third quarter.

1824
01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:33.520
<v Speaker 18>The New York Fed says mortgages, auto loans, credit card balances,

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01:33:33.560 --> 01:33:37.600
<v Speaker 18>and student loans all increased. Total household income rose more

1826
01:33:37.640 --> 01:33:40.640
<v Speaker 18>than debt, but many young consumers and low wage workers

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01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:44.159
<v Speaker 18>are feeling some financial stress. Amazon dot Com has a

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01:33:44.159 --> 01:33:47.960
<v Speaker 18>new online storefront. It's called Hall, designed to compete with

1829
01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:51.720
<v Speaker 18>the discount site Timu. Shoppers who aren't in a hurry

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01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:54.439
<v Speaker 18>to receive their orders can get rock bottom prices. A

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01:33:54.479 --> 01:33:57.880
<v Speaker 18>flat four dollars shipping fee will be waived on orders

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01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:01.079
<v Speaker 18>of twenty five dollars or more. Customers get their deliveries

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01:34:01.079 --> 01:34:03.479
<v Speaker 18>in a week or two. The quarter pound burghers at

1834
01:34:03.560 --> 01:34:06.840
<v Speaker 18>McDonald's are being served with slivered onions once again. An

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01:34:06.880 --> 01:34:10.159
<v Speaker 18>e coli outbreak among customers of the fast food chain

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01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:13.920
<v Speaker 18>was traced to the onions. McDonald's has a new onion supplier,

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01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:17.279
<v Speaker 18>and the Food and Drug Administration confirms there's no further

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01:34:17.399 --> 01:34:20.479
<v Speaker 18>danger in casey. Some of us spends so much time

1839
01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:24.680
<v Speaker 18>making connections online that our in person skills have gotten rusty,

1840
01:34:24.840 --> 01:34:27.600
<v Speaker 18>and that may be especially true when it comes to dating.

1841
01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:31.439
<v Speaker 18>Wall Street Journal says many singles have become so dependent

1842
01:34:31.560 --> 01:34:34.159
<v Speaker 18>on matchmaking sites they don't know how to meet in

1843
01:34:34.279 --> 01:34:37.399
<v Speaker 18>real life. There is a movement to change that. It's

1844
01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:41.439
<v Speaker 18>IRL in real life is back, and of course it's

1845
01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:44.960
<v Speaker 18>being spread via social media online.

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01:34:45.199 --> 01:34:45.520
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:47.600
<v Speaker 2>I saw this stat the other day and it was

1848
01:34:47.720 --> 01:34:50.399
<v Speaker 2>every other way of meeting people is under ten percent,

1849
01:34:50.600 --> 01:34:53.199
<v Speaker 2>and then it's just this red line going straight to

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01:34:53.239 --> 01:34:54.279
<v Speaker 2>the sky for internet.

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01:34:54.359 --> 01:34:54.520
<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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01:34:55.079 --> 01:34:57.119
<v Speaker 2>I on Internet date man, I'm thinking of joining the

1853
01:34:57.159 --> 01:35:00.760
<v Speaker 2>priesthood pas, But do you know what missing from it

1854
01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:02.680
<v Speaker 2>that church.

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01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:04.000
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, this is true.

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01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not even on the list anymore. So all right,

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01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>well we got to roll.

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01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Thank you appreciate it. Okay tomorrow yep, yep, all right,

1859
01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:13.039
<v Speaker 2>And two quick things for you get out of here.

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01:35:13.119 --> 01:35:17.560
<v Speaker 2>An individual decide is is going to be charged with

1861
01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:20.199
<v Speaker 2>insurance fraud and actually it may be up to five

1862
01:35:20.279 --> 01:35:24.039
<v Speaker 2>individuals after cameras captured what looked like a bear and

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01:35:25.159 --> 01:35:28.880
<v Speaker 2>arrowhead California Lake Arrowhead above La There it's a beautiful

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01:35:28.920 --> 01:35:31.159
<v Speaker 2>area and they do have a lot of bear issues,

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01:35:31.520 --> 01:35:34.520
<v Speaker 2>basically vandalyzing cars, and then they were using it for

1866
01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:40.319
<v Speaker 2>insurance payments. It's a dude in a bear suit. And

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<v Speaker 2>and what's worse when you look at the bear suit

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01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:45.479
<v Speaker 2>is it's not just a bear suit like on its own.

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01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:49.119
<v Speaker 2>The bear suit that they bought is has clothes on

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01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:54.359
<v Speaker 2>as bears do. It's how they get you. Actually they

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01:35:54.399 --> 01:35:56.960
<v Speaker 2>wear the clothes and then they sneak in there. It's hilarious.

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01:35:57.000 --> 01:35:59.640
<v Speaker 2>We'll retweet it for you. And finally, Guardian one of

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01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:02.319
<v Speaker 2>the out that's making their way to a blue sky.

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01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:05.319
<v Speaker 2>And I saw somebody put together some of the best

1875
01:36:05.359 --> 01:36:08.199
<v Speaker 2>Guardian headlines from the last couple of years. And these

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01:36:08.239 --> 01:36:10.000
<v Speaker 2>are amazing. You ready, I'm gonna do as many as

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01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I can. Is it okay for scientists to weep over

1878
01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:14.800
<v Speaker 2>climate change?

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01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>You'll love this one.

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01:36:18.399 --> 01:36:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Barbecue is an American tradition of enslaved Africans and Native Americans.

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01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Stop at white people, and good luck with that, oh,

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01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Rossell like this one. No reason to debate guacamole. It's

1883
01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:35.640
<v Speaker 2>already gentrified beyond good taste. Ross is not a fan

1884
01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:39.399
<v Speaker 2>of the guacamole, so maybe he was onto something. My

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01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:45.000
<v Speaker 2>toddler is vegan. Help, what's the problem. Don't you pick

1886
01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:47.119
<v Speaker 2>what you feed your toddler? I mean, to some extent,

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01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:48.880
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna weigh in on it.