Speaker 1: All right, Utah Jazz are inaction tomorrow. O Case is
Speaker 1: the opponent. The second half of the NBA season kind
Speaker 1: of got going last night. Lakers have lost now excuse
Speaker 1: me to the Jazz and the Hornets back to back
Speaker 1: games with Luca and Lebron. Our next guest covers the
Speaker 1: Jazz and other things for the Saul Lake Tribune on
Speaker 1: a Thursday afternoon. We welcome in Andy Larson. Andy, Happy Thursday, Budy.
Speaker 1: How we doing.
Speaker 2: I'm good man, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? That was beer Bar last night. Most important question.
Speaker 1: The RSL Conker CAF Champions Cup watch party. Vibes immaculate.
Speaker 1: As the kids say, the vibe are good.
Speaker 2: You know, Look it was not a strongly attended watch party.
Speaker 2: They're probably I don't know, ten fifteen RSL fans player,
Speaker 2: But to watch a nil Mill draw and where nothing happened,
Speaker 2: and so I would say the vibes were were probably
Speaker 2: pretty mid.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, mid vibes at beer bar. Wow, don't
Speaker 1: sell rimando.
Speaker 2: Look, beer bar had nothing to do with this. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's a great location to watch a game. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean nil Mill with in a it was it
Speaker 2: was not the peak of watch parties like you and
Speaker 2: I have been too.
Speaker 1: For example, fair enough, fair enough. So after that performance,
Speaker 1: have you changed your expectations for better or for worse
Speaker 1: for this club this year?
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess a little bit worse. Look, Coast
Speaker 2: Recon teams aren't very good, and ideally you would be
Speaker 2: promoting more ideas and having better chances than I think
Speaker 2: RSL had during that match. And I mean I watched
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Motagua match after that. That's a hunt Duran
Speaker 2: club and they just they you know, Cincinnati bought that game,
Speaker 2: and to a degree that ARSOL didn't now didn't have
Speaker 2: Diego Luna, didn't have Justin Glad for most of that game,
Speaker 2: you know, And the biggest thing is they didn't have
Speaker 2: a striker. And then unfortunately, Gioga Gonsalves looked as average
Speaker 2: as he's been since RSL acquired him. And so I
Speaker 2: think that in particular, that last note, that Diego doesn't
Speaker 2: look like a special player even in year two. As
Speaker 2: we start year two, and maybe we'll see how this develops.
Speaker 2: It's game one for sure, but it was, as they
Speaker 2: put it on Twitter, kind of mildly disheart named.
Speaker 1: Last RSL question. I am told that reinforcements should be expected.
Speaker 1: I don't know when. I don't know what it looks like.
Speaker 1: What do you hope it looks like? And when do
Speaker 1: you hope it comes down?
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's got to be a striker. And Eliath
Speaker 2: Manuel didn't want to come to RSL again. It's disappointing
Speaker 2: that a replacement hasn't been found more quickly, you know,
Speaker 2: given that now you are playing in Champions League play,
Speaker 2: Champions Cup play. I guess it's disappointing frankly that they
Speaker 2: didn't find a bigger player after they knew that the
Speaker 2: teacher was going to be moving on, you know, pretty
Speaker 2: clearly midway through the season. They had knew what that
Speaker 2: situation was and knew that maybe that wasn't going to
Speaker 2: be tenable moving forward. So yeah, look, it's got to
Speaker 2: be a stacker. It's got to be a good striker.
Speaker 2: It's got to be you know, a designated player striker
Speaker 2: in my mind, and or at least you know, someone
Speaker 2: who's got significant history of scoring goals in this league.
Speaker 2: You know, there's been the Duncan McGuire rumors and maybe
Speaker 2: that's the way they go. And I think Duncan's a
Speaker 2: very good player and would solve a lot of those problems.
Speaker 2: I don't know about it at the DP level, but yeah,
Speaker 2: and in the end, you know, this team needs more
Speaker 2: upfront to be one of the best teams in the
Speaker 2: Western Conference, Like I hope they will be.
Speaker 1: All right all Star weekend? Andy, goodness, gracious, what was
Speaker 1: your interest slash consumption level and your takeaways?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, pretty lowly. I tried to take
Speaker 2: some time off and but you know, it also just
Speaker 2: seems like the exact the exact opposite of must watch television, right,
Speaker 2: Like even in the sports world that I, you know,
Speaker 2: love watching sports, Like why is an average sports fan
Speaker 2: and watching the NBA All Star Game with its tournament
Speaker 2: and all of it's Kevin hartskit and you know, giving
Speaker 2: awards to Charles Barkley and the inside the inside the
Speaker 2: NBA T and T crew when that show is still
Speaker 2: going to continue next year just on ESPN. No one
Speaker 2: cares what channel this is on. To turn you know,
Speaker 2: thirty minutes of basketball into a three hour presentation is rough.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, like the DAYTOTA five hundred, frankly may
Speaker 2: have been more interesting to watch. For me, I had
Speaker 2: dinner with my family and did not feel like I
Speaker 2: was missing a whole lot of what was happening on
Speaker 2: All Star Sunday. You know, I think Mac McClung does
Speaker 2: some cool dunks on on All Stars Saturday, and and
Speaker 2: you know, Stefan Castle did as well, and that was
Speaker 2: I think a relatively above average dunk contest. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just not must watch anymore. And I think, you know,
Speaker 2: that's the league of probably that all these leagues are facing,
Speaker 2: is that like the traditional All Star game format doesn't
Speaker 2: work anymore. And and ultimately, you know, I think kind
Speaker 2: of the further you get away from that traditional kind
Speaker 2: of idea, whether that be you know, what the NFL
Speaker 2: has done with the Pro Bowl or what the NHL
Speaker 2: has done with the Four Nations Tournament, it's probably the
Speaker 2: best way to go at this point.
Speaker 1: So are you old enough to remember when the All
Speaker 1: Star Game was fun?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yeah for sure. I mean I remember being
Speaker 2: a big part of growing up, being like eight, nine,
Speaker 2: ten years old and watching the All Star Game and
Speaker 2: it seemed really fun and cool. Then right like, it
Speaker 2: seems like these superheroes in my brain and some of
Speaker 2: that's just because I was a kid. But we're coming
Speaker 2: together and playing in this this game. You know that
Speaker 2: that had everyone I had ever heard of in it, right,
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, it was better to look. And
Speaker 2: it wasn't amazing. It's not like they were killing each
Speaker 2: other out there, but it was it was significantly, significantly
Speaker 2: more real than what was you know over the last
Speaker 2: five and ten years.
Speaker 1: Do you have any ideas to make it, you know,
Speaker 1: consumable because ultimate I understand your point about other leagues
Speaker 1: and dealing with their All Star stuff, and but the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl was never good, Like the Pro Bowl was
Speaker 1: never good. And the NBA All Star Game for like
Speaker 1: thirty years was the best pickup all you know, pick
Speaker 1: up basketball game that you could find in the world
Speaker 1: because the best players showed up and played high level basketball.
Speaker 1: So whenever ask anyone asks me, like, what's your preferred format,
Speaker 1: my preferred format is the All Star Game with players
Speaker 1: who give a rip. That's my preferred format. But I
Speaker 1: don't think that we're ever getting back there. Is there
Speaker 1: a format idea, whatever it is that you've heard that
Speaker 1: you think makes this thing redeemable or is it just
Speaker 1: time to eat our crow and understand that this is
Speaker 1: not anything that's ever going to be exciting. Ever.
Speaker 2: Again, I haven't heard of one that I think makes
Speaker 2: a real difference, you know, like if you they've done
Speaker 2: so many they've tried so many things, right, Like the
Speaker 2: one that gets me is that they you know, literally
Speaker 2: gave you know, I think it was five hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars to the winner of the game to charity. And
Speaker 2: in fact, they in Cleveland, they brought kids who were
Speaker 2: food insecure, who were actually needed food from the food bank,
Speaker 2: sat them in they you know, lower bowl, very obvious section,
Speaker 2: a group of what twenty thirty kids, I don't know
Speaker 2: what the actual number was, and said we will give
Speaker 2: the food Bank five hundred thousand dollars if you win
Speaker 2: this game. And the game still sucks, Like, I don't
Speaker 2: know what you do with that level of player, you know,
Speaker 2: disassociation from it being a quality product, and like I
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, you can kind of play around.
Speaker 3: The edges with the elam ending and you and the
Speaker 3: tournament and you know, make it look worse. So that hey,
Speaker 3: and some of these games are playing rising stars players
Speaker 3: and maybe they're trying to establish their name and so
Speaker 3: play a little bit harder. But like in the end,
Speaker 3: the rising Stars didn't play that hard either, right, Like,
Speaker 3: it's not like they were really defending.
Speaker 2: They just want to be cool. And when you have
Speaker 2: the incentives that the NBA currently does, where most of
Speaker 2: the All Stars are making between thirty and sixty million
Speaker 2: dollars a year, you know, paying them each a million
Speaker 2: dollars if they win also doesn't really cut it. You know.
Speaker 2: I think we've seen that with some with the play
Speaker 2: in tournament and you know, home court advantage in the
Speaker 2: NBA finals. Let's say, I don't think really cuts it,
Speaker 2: because we see teams tank out of those positions here
Speaker 2: after year or just not you know, maybe not tank,
Speaker 2: but load manage out of those positions here after year
Speaker 2: because they think, hey, being the third seed or the
Speaker 2: fourth seed in the playoffs is fine compared to being
Speaker 2: the first seed. It just doesn't matter that much who
Speaker 2: hosts that Game seven at the end of the series.
Speaker 2: So I'm fresh out of ideas. I haven't heard anything
Speaker 2: that's that interesting to me. And ultimately, I think that
Speaker 2: just like the incentives of the league, that the league
Speaker 2: is too big right now for these guys to care
Speaker 2: about this because they are are already stars and just
Speaker 2: don't have that much the game from trying really hard
Speaker 2: in the All Star Game.
Speaker 1: So PK Suban, you know the Four Nations Finals tonight,
Speaker 1: Canada taking on the US. It's on our station. After
Speaker 1: the Craigsmith Coaches Show, he went on a couple of
Speaker 1: different platforms today. On ESPN, he was doing the rounds
Speaker 1: and he just eviscerated NBA players and he utilized his
Speaker 1: platform as an opportunity to express to consumers if you
Speaker 1: are interested in watching a sport, if you are interested
Speaker 1: in watching a game where the league employs people that
Speaker 1: actually care about their craft, and I'm paraphrasing, of course,
Speaker 1: you should watch hockey because hockey players play through injuries,
Speaker 1: They play for the flag tonight and for their club
Speaker 1: as opposed to simply individual glory. And it's pretty unanimous,
Speaker 1: man Like, it's pretty much across the board, whether you're
Speaker 1: talking about Connor McDavid or or you know one of
Speaker 1: the local guys here Dylan gun Through. It is a
Speaker 1: different brand of athlete, it's a different brand of care.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's something that people in the NBA
Speaker 1: could maybe learn a thing or two from As far
Speaker 1: as the commitments to their craft that hockey players have
Speaker 1: or is this just a cultural societal thing that it
Speaker 1: is what it is, And if you're covering pro basketball,
Speaker 1: you just have to deal with what this thing has become,
Speaker 1: which is a product oftentimes played by players that don't
Speaker 1: seem to give that much of a rip.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a mix of balls. And
Speaker 2: I think like the NBA players not caring generally is
Speaker 2: kind of overstated. Like Kevin Durant, did you watch that
Speaker 2: Court of Gold documentary?
Speaker 1: I did. It was awesome, It was awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Durant cried about the idea of playing in
Speaker 2: the Olympics, right, like and in that in that documentary,
Speaker 2: and it clearly meant a ton to him, right, And
Speaker 2: Like KD is not someone who I think is like
Speaker 2: an outlier in terms of caring about the game. Like
Speaker 2: I thought it was really clear that the Olympics really
Speaker 2: mattered to those players and to a huge degree. And
Speaker 2: so I think, like the Four Nations tournament being a
Speaker 2: success in the NHL level is reflective of kind of
Speaker 2: those same things that we we did actually see from
Speaker 2: NBA players in the Olympics, right, And I think we
Speaker 2: could see in kind of a tournament similar to four
Speaker 2: nations in the NBA. I also think that you're right that, like,
Speaker 2: clearly there's a pride in playing through injury that hockey
Speaker 2: players have that NBA players don't. I would also say that,
Speaker 2: like frankly, that happens more on the team side, and
Speaker 2: I put more blame on the team putting out the
Speaker 2: injury report than the players. I mean, look, I've been
Speaker 2: in these jazz locker rooms or on you know, jazz
Speaker 2: shoot arounds whatever all year long and watches kind of
Speaker 2: the training staff and these team representatives come up to
Speaker 2: players and essentially say, hey, you know, how serious is
Speaker 2: this injury? Hey, maybe we should take this one, you know,
Speaker 2: be cautious about this, Maybe you should sit these next
Speaker 2: couple of games out. Like while the players have those
Speaker 2: conversations and are not happy about them, right, like would
Speaker 2: prefer to be playing those games. I mean, like John
Speaker 2: Collins is sitting, you know, had sat in the last
Speaker 2: few weeks with a fake injury. Would rather be playing
Speaker 2: out there. Larie Markinen would rather be playing, uh, And
Speaker 2: it's just the team that is preventing them from doing so.
Speaker 2: And I think that to me is like Okay, you
Speaker 2: need to change the incentives of the sport a little bit.
Speaker 2: Where in hockey, you know, for whatever reason, those seven
Speaker 2: game series are not foregone conclusions, even when it's a
Speaker 2: one seed versus they seed. I mean, we've seen eight
Speaker 2: seeds make tremendous runs for the NHL playoffs in a
Speaker 2: way that we just have not seen NBA playoffs. The
Speaker 2: NBA eight seeds make those runs generally, you know, with
Speaker 2: a couple of exceptions, it feels like upsets are much
Speaker 2: more common in the NHL, and it you know, again
Speaker 2: those games seems to individually matter. But like I do
Speaker 2: think that mean maybe over state of maybe peak. It's
Speaker 2: about an overstates a little bit like the players side
Speaker 2: of everything that's not the All Star Game. I will
Speaker 2: absolutely blame the All Star Game on the players. I
Speaker 2: don't necessarily blame a whole lot of what we see
Speaker 2: in the NBA on the players exclusively, because I know
Speaker 2: how much the teams are involved in not getting the
Speaker 2: best product every night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think PK was probably utilizing the moment to
Speaker 1: make a larger point to get more people to tune
Speaker 1: into hockey, and a lot of it was performative, But
Speaker 1: I think a lot of points that were made are
Speaker 1: very fair and yeah, and you're not wrong ultimately to
Speaker 1: bring in the dynamic of not just teams but the league.
Speaker 1: And I always bring up agents behind the scenes wanting
Speaker 1: their clients to get to that second, third, fourth, sometimes
Speaker 1: fifth contract if you're Chris Paul, to make generational Well,
Speaker 1: I get the game. But has the league simply become
Speaker 1: andy a Fortune five hundred company that is only caring
Speaker 1: about creating value for their shareholders? Like it feels like
Speaker 1: the league is run like a and it's always been
Speaker 1: a business. David Stern was a hardcore business man, but
Speaker 1: David actually got the media game and the consumer game
Speaker 1: a little bit differently than this. You know, this office
Speaker 1: under Adam Silver seems to get. Is it just now
Speaker 1: that this league is simply about creating as much value
Speaker 1: for their shareholders as possible and it's just being run
Speaker 1: like a tech company.
Speaker 2: Frankly, yes, I'd agree with with all of that. And
Speaker 2: I think the kind of too big to fail idea
Speaker 2: does apply to the NBA a little bit right now,
Speaker 2: where you know, the despite the TV ratings being what
Speaker 2: they are, you know, kind of mid whatever, the TV
Speaker 2: deal is tripling over the in the next contract, right like,
Speaker 2: they are assured so much money and so much revenue
Speaker 2: at the team level and at the player level that
Speaker 2: you know, frankly, teams back in the eighties, right like
Speaker 2: the Jazz were a million dollars away from going bankrupt
Speaker 2: at any given time, right like, and now they are
Speaker 2: incredibly flushed with cash. And and even if a team tank,
Speaker 2: even if a team tanker, even if the Jazz didn't
Speaker 2: se we'll sell out the Delta Center, like that's going
Speaker 2: to be signed for them. It doesn't make a big deal,
Speaker 2: you know. They they will still make a profit and
Speaker 2: the value of the franchise will continue to go up
Speaker 2: because the league has been so successful in running it
Speaker 2: well as a business, in ensuring that every team throughout
Speaker 2: the league makes a profit. And you know, that good
Speaker 2: business sense. And I'm sure the thirty owners appreciate Adam
Speaker 2: Silver for you know, making moves in that direction. But
Speaker 2: it does just remove a lot of the stakes of
Speaker 2: the competition, especially from the team side. And so yeah,
Speaker 2: as a result, I think you do see all of
Speaker 2: these things that you know, the tanking and load management
Speaker 2: and all these kind of anti consumer kind of results
Speaker 2: of that consequences of that that weren't there in the
Speaker 2: eighties and nineties because profit was, you know, the kind
Speaker 2: of way more aligned with the product out there on the.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many buddies I have that
Speaker 1: are lifelong NBA fans that are just like disenfranchised with
Speaker 1: the old thing. It's just I don't know. But to
Speaker 1: your point, you know, they'll email you their P and
Speaker 1: L statement with their middle finger and say, what's our problem? Like,
Speaker 1: we're doing fine, and I get it. One more question
Speaker 1: in this space and then we'll do a little jazz
Speaker 1: before I say you lose. What's your opinion on? And
Speaker 1: I'm not a Lebron hater. I've sounded like it this week,
Speaker 1: but I'm not. I mean, I don't know that we
Speaker 1: have an example of another athlete that was anointed at
Speaker 1: the age of like sixteen or seventeen, who lived up
Speaker 1: to every expectation and superseded most of them. The story
Speaker 1: of Lebron James is phenomenal and always will be. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm watching the intros and they I think
Speaker 1: it was on Shacksog team, and they introduced every player
Speaker 1: and then they go to Lebron and he's in street
Speaker 1: clothes and we all find out like he's not playing. Now,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of ideas we're having. Amina El
Speaker 1: Hassan on coming up in the four o'clock hour his
Speaker 1: podcast asked with Tom Haberstrow Basketball Illuminati. Their theory is
Speaker 1: he was silently protesting the young players playing on Sunday.
Speaker 1: I do not have my tinfoil hat on like that.
Speaker 1: But my issue with it, Andy is this, and I've
Speaker 1: never loved clauses and contracts that award All Star appearances
Speaker 1: or give you a bonus if you win a postseason award,
Speaker 1: because the process at times is arbitrary and it messes
Speaker 1: with people's money. All Lebron had to do was let
Speaker 1: somebody know he wasn't gonna play. They could have named
Speaker 1: his replacement, and that player could have had a clause
Speaker 1: exercise in his contract where he makes a couple hundred grand,
Speaker 1: like if I'm a player that had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: potentially step in as a replacement, And Lebron pulled that
Speaker 1: act that was continued by always Questionable for the Hornest Game. No,
Speaker 1: he's not like he was playing like obviously, so I
Speaker 1: had a real issue with the way he approached what
Speaker 1: he did over the weekend. What are your thoughts, I'm
Speaker 1: work dealing.
Speaker 2: I feel like you've kind of covered it. Lebron absolutely
Speaker 2: should have said that he was if he didn't want
Speaker 2: to play or didn't feel, you know, like that he
Speaker 2: was going to play, should have said something earlier. So
Speaker 2: Demontes the bonus could have been in that game, and
Speaker 2: frankly honestly did it with Anthony Edwards, who also did
Speaker 2: not play for an injury. If we're you know, we
Speaker 2: should be fired of both of those guys that if
Speaker 2: we criticized one and criticize the other. I if they
Speaker 2: if they didn't want to play, if they felt that
Speaker 2: their participation was at risk, they should have told the
Speaker 2: league earlier. And again, a deserving All Star would have
Speaker 2: got gotten to play in the game. I yeah, have
Speaker 2: a I have a significant problem with that. I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean I'm a Lebron height or it doesn't
Speaker 2: mean I'm an Anthony Edward Peter. Uh. It's just it's just,
Speaker 2: you know, not cool.
Speaker 1: I did not mean to take the good points with
Speaker 1: that was embedded into my question. Andy. I just know
Speaker 1: you're a smart guy and you could bounce off of it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like it's just a bad look. Uh.
Speaker 1: Is there anything and this is me reaching for a topic.
Speaker 1: Is there anything Keanta can take away from that weekend?
Speaker 1: I mean, I suppose if you're going to be around
Speaker 1: your peers and they're the best players in the world,
Speaker 1: that has to be a good thing.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, probably, I mean probably. I'm interested in talking
Speaker 2: about this. So the jazz practice at three o'clock, so
Speaker 2: really quite soon here, and then once they're done with practice,
Speaker 2: we'll go over and talk to both Kiante and I
Speaker 2: think we're talking to Lowry market In as well after practice,
Speaker 2: and I will ask him my question because I'm curious too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what he took away from it? I kind of wonder
Speaker 2: if like, playing as reasonably well as he did in
Speaker 2: the Rising Stars and even on Sunday, like may give
Speaker 2: him kind of a boost of confidence. But yeah, well
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see what he says. I don't guess.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't want to put words into his mouth,
Speaker 2: and and I am just going to ask him about
Speaker 2: it in an hour and a half.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, do you want to give me
Speaker 1: a hot Jaden Springer take I guess Jazz fansher at
Speaker 1: least get to know the new player on the roster.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a ten ten day guys who is
Speaker 2: going to be on the game and the on the
Speaker 2: team the next five games I believe it is. And
Speaker 2: then but yeah, I mean kind of has struggled to
Speaker 2: find a consistent role in Boston and Philadelphia can defend
Speaker 2: a little bit. We'll see kind of. Yeah, if if
Speaker 2: he gets playing time over the likes of Johnny Choosing, etcetera.
Speaker 2: I you know, if everyone's healthy, I'm I'm curious which
Speaker 2: way will Hardy will go with that? But yeah, you
Speaker 2: know he's the fifteenth man on the roster.
Speaker 1: All right, before I say you lose make the final
Speaker 1: what twenty eight games? I believe it is the final
Speaker 1: twenty eight games for the Jazz. Make it interesting?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it's the same thing as we've
Speaker 2: done all year, right, Like it's whether or not the
Speaker 2: young guys are building bloss or if they if you
Speaker 2: feel comfortable kind of jettising them for a shot another player,
Speaker 2: like the Jazz did with O trag Boji last year. Right,
Speaker 2: So you know it is there something there with bright
Speaker 2: sense of ba or is there not. Is there something
Speaker 2: there with Cody Williams? Can he show Frankly anything, how
Speaker 2: you know, can Isaiah improve continue to improve his shooting percentages?
Speaker 2: Can you know, Keyante George figure out kind of be
Speaker 2: how to be an impact player when his shot isn't
Speaker 2: going in. I think there are opportunities for them to
Speaker 2: show those things. And you know, it's it's this is
Speaker 2: the most boring cliche in the world, But it is
Speaker 2: about stacking days. It is about like playing well in
Speaker 2: not just one game out of you know, ten, but
Speaker 2: one game out of two, and then kind of working
Speaker 2: to improve consistency. So like, I'm watching that stuff and
Speaker 2: we'll be reporting on that in my in my articles.
Speaker 1: Of up Team, we got a stacking days drop for
Speaker 1: Andy Larson. My man was down in provo listening to
Speaker 1: Kevin Young. Weren't you?
Speaker 2: I was, Do you see Kevin recognize me in that
Speaker 2: press conference? I thought that was kind of funny.
Speaker 1: I did not see that, but I'm happy for you
Speaker 1: that our guy Kevin Young recognized you. Did you have
Speaker 1: You've been.
Speaker 2: Watching too many NBA games with a question like that.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, maybe I'm out of my depth.
Speaker 1: Peer Well, I don't know if you know this, but
Speaker 1: Kevin spent some time in the NBA. If you didn't
Speaker 1: know that, all you got to do is ask him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone else around the program too. But hey, look,
Speaker 2: actually that was fun.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, it was amazing.
Speaker 2: And uh, just yeah, the degree to which few way
Speaker 2: you tore apart Kanvas. You know, I was coming in
Speaker 2: expecting a good game, but not a eviserration like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. Ken Palms live in studio coming up next, Andy,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna let you go enjoy the weekend. We'll
Speaker 1: chat soon. Thanks, buddy, and you. Larson covers the Utah
Speaker 1: Jazz for The Solid Tribune, writes a data column really
Speaker 1: interesting piece up that Andy did on Daylight Savings, smart
Speaker 1: kid man whatever, Andy Right writes. I like to read
Speaker 1: because he's kind of a north star for us. So
Speaker 1: appreciate Andy Sime today