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Speaker 4: There are one thousand UFO sightings reported around the world
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Speaker 5: Well, good evening, everyone, and welcome Macmoney's military style show
here in the distance under radio networriy, this is Mac maloney.
What a show we have for you tonight. But first
let me introduce you to the members of the Polse Girls.
You feel him, you feel his vibe at least I
hope that's what you're feeling across the funnel. Get your fan,
get your big box of claimas a big box of
wipes to squeegee and elube because you see the very
first one.
Speaker 2: Wannie, Hello Mac, Hello, everybody, Hello, girls and guys and
all ships at sea. Yeah, I'm feeling everybody's vibe because
it's vibe here really keeps me rolling. It's like it's
like fuel for the fire. Interesting, and I hope I
can impass my way back to you. It's sort of mutual.
It's it's two way traffic. Okay, using impath is my
best Okay, good pleasure to be on the show as always,
Thank you for having me. And you know how many
years have been on the show, ten years.
Speaker 5: Almost unbelieve anything new over there, anything new over.
Speaker 2: There, only that it's gotten warm. They call it hot.
Speaker 5: Yes, when it's like interesting eighty three really yeah, which
is math.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: This is nothing like great or something.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like panic melanics that if there's three
days in a row like that, there, you know.
Speaker 5: They're going nuts. See no see over there, right? No
air conditioning.
Speaker 2: Very few homes heavier conditioning built in. You can get
these portable things and you run a pipe attachment to
your window and the windows open. They can't leavid windows,
so it's kind of you can't really put a window
air condition like we have in the United States. Yes,
but you know, the restaurants in most of the restaurants
of air condition some of the small cafes are not.
Of course, the supermarkets in shops are air conditioned. But
the homes, it's like, what happened? How long you're there?
How long you been there? Almost two years? Right, yeah,
it was two years in May.
Speaker 5: On the bottom meter, the bottom meter one to ten,
ten being like really freaking boarding, boring? Where are you?
What's England?
Speaker 2: I'm about a six because I'm hindered a little bit
because they don't have a car.
Speaker 5: Okay, yes, right.
Speaker 2: But I can take you know, track taxis and trains everywhere.
But for example, we we eliminated the boredom factor at
least for one day, because you know what, We took
a taxi to High Claire Castle, where downtown Abbey, where
a lot of Downton Abbey's filmed. Actually quite a bit
of Downton Abby's filmed at ealing studios and other on
location places that are just as cool as down to
its High Claire Castle.
Speaker 5: Was Lily James. There was hanging around.
Speaker 2: No I was. I was waiting for that. I was
hoping she would show up like a guest appearance. But
you know, they have these these little tours. It's busy
all day long, and then just let a few people
into the time. And you have a ticket that allows
you a certain window of entrance. You could be there
in there as long as you want. You have an
entrance window. So it's it's well orchestrated, and it's not
really it's it's guided in the sense that there's employees
in there in just about every main room, like the
like the library and the dining room and the study,
all that stuff in the in the bedrooms upstairs. Wow,
they talk about the rooms and the artwork and stuff
like that.
Speaker 5: You've just been a pig and ship as the kids say, right.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we were loving it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I always say, gee, I wish you'd go down in
the kitchen get a bite to eat. But the kitchen
they don't film the kitchen stuff. Then the high clear
because it's modernized.
Speaker 5: It's and the food sucks what they.
Speaker 2: Want in nineteen twenties. Anyway, they do that as a studio.
There's the report from England. That's the report. I'll get
to see it awesome with us in the studio. King
of the Bees, Slash your fho mechanic slash getaway driver
Alan Now though, hell.
Speaker 6: Hey Mac, hello everyone. How are the bees? Well, the
bees are kind of weird. But I'm going to find
out probably tomorrow what's going on, because what's kind of
weird of the bees use the lower entrance of the
hive and come and go and do their stuff in.
Speaker 2: The lower two boxes.
Speaker 6: These guys, both hives, for some reason, are using the
upper entrances these days, and it's a it's a really
tiny opening. So I have no idea what they're up to.
But I got to go in there because if I'm
going to extract any honey, I have to do it
pretty soon. So now the times I was going to
do it today, but by the time I get out there,
there were probably a thousand bees outside the hives doing
orientation the lights.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know what, I really do it.
Speaker 6: They have orientation flights when when they hatch out, you know,
they come out of the hive and they don't know
where they are, you know, relative to the earth. So
they come out and they figure out where the sun is,
and you know, they get their bearings and where the
hive really is. So they fly around in front of
the high for a while and figure out where the
trees are and where the sun is, and you know,
so they can get back when they leave. But there
was a whole lot of them, and I'm like, you know,
if I do this tomorrow morning at eight in the
morning or seven in the morning, there'll be a lot
less of them potentially out in my face. So I
got everything ready and tomorrow morning I'm hoping to run
out there and what I have to do is pull
the top boxes off and slide in what they call
a b excluder, which allows them to come down into
the high but not let them get back up. So
when I take the honey sooopers off I might have
one hundred bees and they're not a couple of thousand,
which is far more pleasant to deal with.
Speaker 5: So that might be tomorrow's but I got to hurry up.
Speaker 2: And do it. I'd like to watch that operation. I
would like to see you.
Speaker 5: It's the music behind. It's hilarious.
Speaker 6: Mac has seen me come running through the yard being
chased because I've read I've read in.
Speaker 2: The past, somebody filming you're doing this.
Speaker 6: Well, there's an I read different articles where people say,
you know, I opened up the hive and they exploded
into my face, and I was like, wow, that's kind
of interesting. And then one day I pulled the cover
and they this particular hive was what they call hot.
You know, it's genetically they're aggressive, and you know they
saved the hives too hot, you crush the queen and
requeen and hope that in the next But in the
next few months she reproduced a new genetics that aren't
quite as violent. But you generally find a lot of
the hot hives are the most productive hives. To be talking,
the motto was be kind to be well that one
day I opened the hive up and they exploded into
my face. And I was suited up, but there's still
a psychological impact of having that many bees coming at
your face and they're on the screen and they want
you bad. And at one point if I said, you
know what, let me just let them walk away and
let them cool down a bit. But walking didn't really suffice,
so away I was running through the yard screaming, and
Mac happen to look out his window.
Speaker 5: And another weird thing. I'm on the phone with Ravens
saying yeah, you know, and she just trying to show
him sing Yeah, this guy Alan, you know, it's all
about bees. He's gonna gave your honey, And all of
a sudden he goes running across his yacht with the
Swama be in the bee costume, which made him funnier.
So if you get that kind of Keystone Cops music.
Speaker 6: Or whatever the boos like Scooby dooos, the Scooby doo
thing with you would be perfect.
Speaker 2: Anyway, an Instagram video you could throw some Keystone Cops.
Speaker 5: Yeah, fun get a million hits. Also with us uh
draining us from way up there on the Great Way.
Not is that's a way anymore? I mean, I'm talking
about snow kids is good and Kim Shay Kim, how
are you doing Edmonton, Canada?
Speaker 7: Kim doing fantastic. Mac good to see everybody. Nice to
be on the show. Glad you invite me back.
Speaker 5: So Edmond to the home of the Edmonton Oilers, who
just kind of missed it this year for the Stanley Cup. Correct.
Speaker 7: I think I think they were maimed. I think McDavid
had a him and dry side. We're both badly injured.
I think they both went for surgery instantly after that.
Speaker 3: Really wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they came from behind, almost made it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they almost ran it. Yeah, I was almost here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but that was a great effort. It was. It
was a good game. I mean, I don't know about
the last ten minutes. I mean that was a pretty
pathetic effort by the other crew.
Speaker 2: I thought.
Speaker 7: I was like, wow, you guys are going to win
the Cup. Like playing like this, it was hard to watch.
Speaker 5: Yeah, watch it. Okay, Well we're Bruins fans, so it's
a lot of things have been hard to watch in
the past. But anyway, thanks for joining us. Yes, yeah,
to complain Celtic's best team like maybe not ever, but
definitely the best team in the past. Twenty years easy. Yeah, phenomenal, Yeah, yeah,
the I hate to go into sports, but they're a machine,
if you know what I mean. You know they're not
you know, they're not personality driven as much as like
Larry Bird and Robert Parrish and all those guys. But
they're just a machine. It's a machine that plays good
defense and schools that turns out. That's all you need
in the NBA. So anyway, so let's see. So it's
going to be this sausage party until Kim's wife joins
us in about an hour or so. So when do
we do this? I've done the opening of the show. Kim,
you have some kind of report, right, We're gonna talk
about weird stories tonight.
Speaker 7: Yes, I brought three stories with me.
Speaker 5: Man, why don't we do this?
Speaker 7: Share with everybody? I kind of pulled them out of
the hat something I shared with you too.
Speaker 5: So let's go.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's right.
Speaker 7: I don't know if anybody wants to grab on to him,
they're all from YouTube. I'll mention, like the first story
here is a mister Ballin story. I don't know if
anybody's familiar. He has an ex Navy seal or I
guess it's a navy seal, isn't it you guys, It's
not an army seal. It's a navy seal. And he
did his time and came out. And I think he's
been telling stories since he was a little kid. He's
got a very good way of telling them. But this
story was just kind of extra weird because I kind
of like coincidences and some of that stuff, and some
of the fishing stories are fantastic. So this story was
called the Perfect Bait. It's happened August twenty eighth, two thousand,
on a commercial fishing boat in Queensland, Australia. It's about
a fellow named Michael Edwards and his buddy Sam. They
were both on this commercial fishing boat with four other dudes.
They were top side and the four other dudes were
down below arrests having a sleep. They dropped anchor. It
was all calm when they dropped anchor, and before they
know what, they were in a wicked storm. So the
two guys on the upper deck took it upon themselves
to start fastening and tying things down and making sure
that they didn't lose anything. They worked together for a
little bit and then they thought, well, let's split up.
One go to the bow, Aloe go to the front,
and we'll work our way back together and then go below.
So they split up and Sam went to the front
and Michael went to the back, and they were kind
of keeping an eye on each other. They were watching
each other work forward, and Sam went to do a
little maneuver to get under some rigging and which only
took him a second, I guess, and like by the
time he reached back up, they'd been hit with like
a rogue wave which tossed them like almost ninety degrees sideways.
He held on. By the time he looked up, Michael
was like gone. He wasn't even on the boat anymore.
He couldn't find him. He went looking everywhere, boats back, right,
sided up. Everybody's freaking out. He grabs the guys from below.
They come top side, They get spotlights going. They're trying
to find this guy. The captain comes up and he
radios into the coast that they've got a problem where
they are, and so they send out some boats to go,
some police boats, I guess, with spotlights and started searching
the area. I guess. They searched it for like a
day and a half. Never I'm not sure how long
this episode went, but they searched for some time. Now.
They finally gave up thinking the guy was gloss. I
guess the guys on a fishing boat are like devastated.
They're sitting there, going, what are we supposed to do? Now?
These aren't rich guys. I guess they're guys that fish,
and that's how they make their money. They're on money
to get themselves out to the ocean where they are
to fish for these fish. And they just thought, well,
let's just try to top ourselves up and we'll go
in right and maybe we'll actually find Michael in the
meantime while we're fishing. So they started fishing, and they
were catching these what they're called flowery cod. I don't
know if you guys are familiar with them. I've never
heard of them myself. No big cod. They'll like one
hundred pounders, going one wow. So they start catching these
things like crazy. They're having no problem scooping these fish up.
They get their quota and okay, the day's over whatever.
They cruise back in. It's been a couple of days
I believe since Michael went missing. They come back into
their dock and give it to the processing plant and
kind of collect their money, and they go off to
their homes, hoping to do another fishing journey someday and
deal with Michael's loss.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: Well, one of the guys in the processing plant, he's
working on these big flowery cod and he's gutting them
and doing his thing, and he cuts one big one
hundred pounder and lo and behold, there's a head, didn't it.
He's got this horrific look on his face and it's like,
oh my god. Well, you guys probably can figure out
they caught the fish that got Michael's head. Now, they
were like, what the heck? Like they had to do
an investigation. I guess they checked it all out and
the scars and the wounds on this guy's neck, and
they came to this conclusion that when he left the boat,
he went in the live and probably died within minutes
by on the jaws of a saltwater crocodile and sharks. Damn. So,
I mean in here one of the cod that they
caught ate his head.
Speaker 5: Damn, Holy cow. WOA, Like, I don't know what there's
a joke in this somewhere, but it's would be very distasteful.
So so how big is the cod? How big is
the How big is the cod?
Speaker 7: I think they're talking one hundred pounders.
Speaker 5: And they could fit the head inside his mouth.
Speaker 7: Maybe they showed a picture of one on the thing,
and it's like, well they got big moss. They're kind
of big, ugly fish.
Speaker 5: Like you mentioned the horror of that of someone calming
up and go, yeah, we found your husband. We found
his head. Yeah it's it's in a cod.
Speaker 7: God said that they actually found him, you know, Mac
you know yeah, yeah, true, I'm as disgusting as.
Speaker 2: It is and whatever.
Speaker 7: Well, like go wow, but at least they knew what
happened to him, and they bury his head head er
form and his family.
Speaker 2: Get clo when you're just burying his head?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Is that good enough?
Speaker 5: How much is the gravestone? Did you get it? You don't?
A son off? That's just say so, I'm sorry, yeah.
Speaker 7: Sorry, sorry for Michael's loss.
Speaker 5: Wow, that is bad. Yeah did you know this guy?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, I just heard the story on mister Ball and.
Speaker 5: I don't feel bad. Okay, all right, that would be
that would be yeah, really bad.
Speaker 7: And the next story. I didn't know which one to
go first. Here you got there's two stories that.
Speaker 2: Are stod setup.
Speaker 5: That's a perfect story to start with.
Speaker 2: The table.
Speaker 5: Well, okay, then let's go to heads above all the others.
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's let's let's discontinue on here. Okay, Well, the
next one is uh, it's from a from a show
on YouTube. A producer that makes a show called Unexplained Mysteries,
a British I think guy, and he does a really
good job at articulating the many different angles. I got
to say, a great depth. This guy is really takes
apart stories and really dissects them into the minutest detail,
almost like quantum physics. Every every story. And this story
is about a doctor, Daniel Nems, who was a pioneering
scientific researcher into multi dimensional realms. Now. He was a
quantum physicist and worked on quantum physics and energy. Now
he started researching things like yes, you could say, because uh,
he invented a machine called an energy vision.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 7: He claimed that it takes it takes photographs of alternate
reality or a parallel universe. Let's say, okay, I think
is what he described it as. Right, Yes, his research
drew him into this intersection of energy, matter and dimensions
and parable parallel realities. Let me just continue on here
kind of notes here.
Speaker 5: So, Okay, this guy actually is he's he's a real doctor.
He's he's he's he's got the credentials.
Speaker 7: It would be nice to go, like, I could do
the more research on this story. It would be absolutely yeah.
Speaker 5: I have to Well, I mean, I'm just saying that
what he's saying. I just want to say that al
Al claims he's a doctor of bees. Where did you
get that degree?
Speaker 9: You?
Speaker 3: F you?
Speaker 5: What else? They have a great football team, Okay, go ahead,
please can please?
Speaker 7: He called it the Energy Vision and it's a machine
that has sensors and also has a emitters on it, right,
that works in the electromagnetic spectrum. So when aimed at
detecting these unseen realms, his research into this, into this
stuff and into this trying to detect these realms, certain
frequencies would resonate within these entities, causing the sensors to
pick it up with an a logarithm, which would make
it produce a picture. How this thing works, I have
no idea, but there are pictures that supposedly were produced
by this machine. And you can go on to this
site which I left to guy's a link and you
can look at them. I wish I could show them
to you right now. They're bizarrely they look like something
from like psychedelic albums in the sixties.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we understand album.
Speaker 7: Yeah, bizarre stuff. But you know, well, there's shapes and
forms that are produced with this camera which don't correspond
with our reality as we know it. So he came
up with the idea that this is a parallel dimension
that's existing right next to us, and started to kind
of research this whole area. And for some reason, once
he put his papers up in his stuff, well they
say he disappeared. I who knows what happened to him.
I mean, that's a nice word, but maybe he just
backed out.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Nobody else, I guess has ever heard a word from
him again on this whole thing. But you can actually
go look at the pictures, though, I don't know if
his research papers are around or if anybody's done anymore
like checking this out. But the guy was like basically
going on about the multiverse and all the idea of
the multiverse and that this guy figured that the same idea.
I think it was Sid Anderson.
Speaker 10: It came up the idea kind of in a Stone's
phase and lax, where he thought of the multiverse complex
and how each decision that we make has got another
universe that flows from it, so that we're in like
an exponential growth pattern of universes.
Speaker 7: And this is kind of where this guy's research was
leading us. I guess, and well, yeah, they do. There
there's some research into that stuff, isn't there, And some
people that believe that in some realms of the quantum
physics pursuits.
Speaker 5: I think, well, can I just add something to that.
There's a movie about two or three years ago. It
was Man in Korea. It was a big, big movie,
won a lot of awards and stuff. It was like,
you know, I forget exactly the title. The title was weird.
But it's about these people who for some reason go
into the multiverse. Jamie Lee Curtis is in it, but
the rest of the cast is from Asia and they
go into this and they go into it's it's a
really nutty movie. It's nutty, but they go into this
whole thing that that if there are multiverses. Then that
means that everything that you can think of, there's an
entire universe that is nothing but and and and the
example they give is that somewhere there's a multiverse where
instead of fingers, people have hot dogs. And you know,
they have everything else that we have, but their fingers
are hot dogs. And it shows these like a guy
and girl and they're they're trying to make out and
he's trying to feel or up and stuff, but his
fingers are hot dogs, right, And it really wants to say,
is this really does this possibly be happening? I mean,
it just really kind of brings the there's an absurdity
to that theory, though mathematically they've kind of proved that
this is probably what's happening is that there's there's an
infinite number of universes. We just happen to be in
this one, but there's there's a there's a universe with
there is exactly one less grain of seeing then O.
It's you know that kind of stuff all the way
up to hot dig thing is so yeah, it's nuts
when you think about it, but once again, mathematically possible,
I would say, yeah, if.
Speaker 7: You guys can get a chance to look at those pictures.
I wish somehow I could show them like scan just
but they are very very strange, like I have what
the heck like, why would that look like that? I
have no idea if anything like it's I can understand paradolia, yea,
you know, making things up from other things, but it's
not like that. It's you have to just look at it.
It's very strange. But you know, Mac, you know, talking
about these multi dimensions and multiverses, wouldn't that be the
definition of almost all of the paranormal in a way.
And yes, it's kind of like puts it all into
respective in my mind where it would explain all of
this stuff, maybe maybe even death and birth. I have
no idea about that part, but it just makes me
wonder how far it spreads out.
Speaker 2: Like potentially always in the multiverse as well as being here.
Speaker 5: Well one of one of many universes, you know. And
that's why, as Kem said, I mean, how when you
think about it and you think about it and you're
think of the matrix and stuff like that. The matrix,
it's like, well, every paranormal mystery we've ever talked about.
Anyone who's ever talked about if you believe there's one
solution it kind of works. Is that you know, there
is another place where, for some reason, we see that
other place. It's foreign, it's weird, it's crazy to us.
But those people see out of you know, existence, and
they think we're the crazy ones.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: It's the it's the basis behind mccloney's Haunted Universe on
sale everywhere. It's it's like maybe we live in the
universe where everything is screwed up, you know what I mean,
maybe every other universe everything is fine. We're in the
screwy universe, you know. But but once again they've they've
it's it's proven mathematically that there's more than one universe.
Let's put it that way, all right, But you know,
I mean, where is it. It's it's it isn't a
place that we can't understand. We don't have the intellectual.
Speaker 7: James Webb has almost seen that, right, Yeah, yeah, those
early pictures of like that. Now they're coming up with
the idea that this idea of inflation didn't happen for
a fraction of a second. It's still going on today.
Speaker 5: The whole idea of inflation, and I don't know why,
but I read a lot about that years ago. Was
this guy. You know, they couldn't figure out why the
early universe cooled as quickly as it did, because it
had to have cooled the coaliest stars to make the
galaxies blah blah blah. And so this guy came up
with this idea. I don't know, it was maybe just
you know, sitting in bed one night and came to
me and said, well, they had inflation. So when the
one trillionth of a trianth of a trillion second of
the Big Bang, everything like went crazy just for that
one literally trillionth of a trillion set and then all
the math fell into place after that, and and it
sounds screwy, you know what I mean, Why why? Why?
You know? And now as you say, they're thinking, maybe
this didn't happen. Maybe the universe is more than thirteen
billion years old, they think maybe it might be twice
that James Wood telescope is finding galaxies that are so
close to the beginning of the Big Bang. Yet these
analaxies look like they've been around for a long long time,
you know, which is odd. Yeah, yeah, so well, any
kind of scientific theory and stuff. I mean, it's just
there till it's you know, overthrown by some other idea, you.
Speaker 2: Know, right right, it's always evolving, it's always changing.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, there's no real answer. Like the answers that
we get are the answers that we can understand on
our intellectual level, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: They sound reasonable? Now, well, we may find out in
the future we were way off.
Speaker 5: But look at.
Speaker 7: One young fella, that genius young fella who thought that
they ha drawn accelerator had lost one atom? What of
our reality that caused us to shift over? So the
Mendela effect in effect, and that we've been shifting, like
shifting and shifting, and that it's trying to Somebody said
to me, this is years ago, said to me, it's
trying to correct itself. The code is trying to yeah itself.
And it's actually exponentially growing at a speed where it's
doing it like in fractions of a second.
Speaker 5: Now, it's like it's a glitch in the program. I mean,
the matrix basically is a glitch in the program. And
if you, if you really want to, you know, kind
of define it as that. You know, it's like, why
do coincidences happen. Well, it's a glitch in the program,
you know what I mean, there's a pro deja vu,
same thing, you know why, Well, it's just a glitch
in the Why do we see Bigfoot? Well, you know,
it's a glitch in the program.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, people that look like twin
of somebody else.
Speaker 5: Doppelganger's right, Yeah, it's it's a glitch. And that makes
sense to us, as we can understand computer glitches, you
know what I mean, in a thousand years, they'll say, well,
this is this, this and this and you know, oh
yeah right, let me figure that out, you know, I mean,
what's the guy, the guy who got to hit with
the with the apple, Isaac Newton? All right, he thought
that the middle of the Earth was kind of like
a magnet for all things, right, and that's why everything
falls down right, and they and that was the theory
for years and years until Einstein came along and said, well,
the real reason is that Earth that the space is curved.
And so if you the the experiment is, if you
take a big beach blanket and you put a ball
in the middle of it, Okay, it's going to kind
of curve, okay, and if if you've got a golf
ball to be go around that beach ball perfectly, it's
going to keep on going and going. So basically, orbit
is you're falling. You're continuously falling towards the Earth, but
you're so far up that you're not going to you're
not going to hit the Earth, you know what I mean.
This is the Boston Public School System guy explaining it,
But that's what it is. It's that it's the space
actually curves. There's a there's a curature in space. And
if you can imagine things going around this ball only
because they're going fast, too fast to actually fall in.
In five hundred years, someone might come up and say,
well it's really this and people, oh, yeah, that's right,
you know, it's it's the explanation we can understand, which
is I think is interesting.
Speaker 7: And gravitational waves that they kind of prove it to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they proved waves move through it.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. Grave detection wears a weird And there's also
are they neutrons whatever they build these laboratories like four
miles below you know, the ground to look for these
are they protons in their trenos?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: One shows up every million years or something, and they're
they're looking in a big black tank of water and boom,
there's one. You know, so you see one, they prove it,
then they all exist. You have very strange like the Pole.
Speaker 7: Like the South Pole or something like that. There was
a report that said you're detecting neutrinos coming out of
the earth in the pole. They had no idea why
that would be. Yeah, it's a strange one.
Speaker 5: Not to bring up another subject, did you see that
the Ukrainians we cut this on, hit a Russian bomber
with a drone up in the Octic. Sir, think about
that they launched I mean, in theory they launched it.
They could have launched it from some someplace.
Speaker 2: Ells.
Speaker 5: They lunched a drone in the Ukraine and it flew
all the way up to the Arctic Circle and destroyed
one of their big, you know, super bombers. Wow, that's
a that's reach, you know what I mean, that's a lot.
Speaker 2: I wonder who supplied that drone.
Speaker 5: Well, it's either they do make their own. They I
wonder when they're going to decide to hit the Kremlin
with one. I'll tell if they can hit that's the
that's the that's what they're inferring. If we can hit
you in the Arctic, you know, putin, we're gonna you know,
put one up your ranting dining room, you know. I
mean the Ukrainians are very they're interesting because you're not
going to beat the Russians on the battlefield because there's
just too many of them and they'll just keep throwing
people at you. But if you, if you, you can
beat them with a thousand pin pricks, if you know
what I mean, you know, and just kind of wait
to look Afghanistan exactly.
Speaker 7: Did you see Mali? Did you see the action in Mali?
Speaker 5: Yes? Yes, yeah, the wag the room, I.
Speaker 7: Was like okay, and the Ukrainians were embedded with them
and they took prisoners gold.
Speaker 5: So, Mally, is this really ship bump country in Africa?
I'm sorry, but it is. And for some reason they've
been fighting for years over there for who knows what
for dart So they sent those Wagner mercenaries who were
you know, they were they're fighting in Ukraine, fought Russia.
But that's the guy that you know kind of had
a mutiny and then they shot down his plane. A
year later, and so on. So they said, yeah, sure
it was yeah, so uh an accident, the missile hit it.
But uh so they so these wagon the mercenaries are
in Malli and there's a bunch of them, and the
Mali you know, rebel forces whatever caught them in an
ambush and killed them, like about eighty of them. And
these guys are like special forces, right, and and now
it turns out they had some help. I guess the
French have been helping those guys. And and and you know,
they actually wrote radio back to Russia, what can you
do for us? And they said, well, you know nothing,
you're in your room.
Speaker 7: I was talking to you and yeah, our navy on
the navy, Oh no, right, all that saying.
Speaker 5: It's it's very strange. I mean, we're in the twenty
first century when you got you get all this kind
of high tech stuff, but people are still fighting trench warfare.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: It's and we're watching it on chiev and was on
TV Live. Yeah, yeah, very strange.
Speaker 2: But anyway, you know, one one minute, Yeah, I'm in
the UK, so I feel too close to the action.
I really want to, you know, bail out. It's it's
just crazy. Yeah, in one in one frame, you've got
the Olympics. I could take the train to Paris and
go and watch gymnastics, or I could sit home and
watch BBC all day. They watch Ukraine do these magical things.
Speaker 5: Okay, that was more exciting than your gymnastics. Okay, but
that's another thing. Once again, we.
Speaker 2: Don't want you know, women's beach volleyball.
Speaker 5: Okay, we don't want to date the show. But I mean, seriously,
the people in Paris, they underestimated how many people would
come there by four million. They expected five million people
and they were off by four million. Who would go there?
I mean the trains, they screwed up the trains, they
screwed up the you know, the telephone systems. The saying
is so dirty. They wouldn't let the swimmers swim in it. Today.
It rained on the opening ceremonies. They had drag queens
making fun of Jesus. I mean, you know, how can this?
Speaker 9: What's the matter?
Speaker 5: How does that? I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't get who came up with the idea and
thought this is a good idea. Somebody, ok yeah, oh yeah,
they must have said, yeah, yeah, that's great. Listen, let's uh.
I mean bad enough, you know, like you piss off
the Christians and how many billions of them are there?
I mean, thank god they didn't go after the Muslims
because that would have been it. They don't take it
as well. Speaking, what did you hear the there was
a uh there was a kid who was a judo
judoka kid from some Muslim country who his first match
was against an Israeli kid and.
Speaker 5: They shake hands and hug at the end of the match.
Speaker 6: The Muslim kid won, oh, and he refused to shake
the hands of the Israeli kids at the end of
the match, which is very unsportsmanlike. And he turned around
and started walking away, and he said something like a
lah akbar, and then he made some hand gesture there's
a Muslim thing. So everybody was down on him saying,
what you know, unsportsmanlike thing and blah blah blah, No,
there's no room for that in the Olympics. Well, that
kid's next opponent was a Japanese judoka who planted him
on the mat so hard he dislocated his shoulder. And
then everybody was like, karma, karma happened. Such a chick.
Speaker 5: And later that night the Israelis capid bombed this village.
Only kid and just kind of light in the mood.
So why don't we do this? Why don't we take
a commercier r now and we'll be right back after this.
You're listening to Macloney's militrisa show here in the distant
thunder radio that way, please stay.
Speaker 4: And now the further adventures of Al Ferrari, star of
max latest best seller, How to Dump a Body at
Sea and Not Get.
Speaker 3: Caught Mac maloney show. This is Lois, Oh, Lois Altrari?
Speaker 8: Hi?
Speaker 5: Al, how's the book tour going?
Speaker 2: Couldn't be better?
Speaker 9: Sweetheart?
Speaker 7: Now when I say Max's new book, how to Dump.
Speaker 3: A Body and see it not Get Caught, is selling
like hotcakes.
Speaker 1: I mean with lots of deer band, lots of bacon,
so practically flying up the bestseller us.
Speaker 5: That's great, Al, but I'm not surprised.
Speaker 11: People must be amazed when you tell them how you
turned an old Toyota into a new rolls rice.
Speaker 1: Oh, when I turned all I was a bunch of
quarters into a fortune and gold of bloom.
Speaker 3: Or when you had that ikey job moving bodies. Oh,
when I ate an ounce in hot east and so god.
Speaker 11: Oh gosh, really, al.
Speaker 5: Really, Lois, and he says, Hi, by the way, so the.
Speaker 11: Book is selling great and people love hearing about your adventures.
Speaker 3: It's all good, right, you said it, sweetie.
Speaker 2: But wait a mine.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Al, are you out of gas?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 5: And vodka?
Speaker 11: And you're stranded?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 3: But wait there comes someone. Now, maybe I.
Speaker 5: Can bump a rye.
Speaker 11: Al are you okay?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 10: The dargest thing just lands it in front of me,
all bright lights, flashing strokes and wait a minute, three
little guys that climb me out of it.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should tell him I'm a big fan of
the Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 12: Al, don't do that.
Speaker 2: Okay, they're looking in the windows.
Speaker 11: Luckily I have them all rolled up, Al, you're driving
a convertible.
Speaker 3: Well, they seem to be very interested in Max's new book.
Speaker 13: I got boxes of them in here.
Speaker 2: They I can have mac otto.
Speaker 5: Al al al ol.
Speaker 4: That's right, friends, Max's new book, How to Dump a
body at Sea and not get caught. The al Ferrari
story is out of this world. So get yours on
Amazon today and don't forget to leave a review.
Speaker 5: Welcome back everyone to Macmoney's mild Tracks show here on
the Distant Thunder Radio Network. This is Mac maloney. Want
to show we have for you tonight, very quickly, let
me introduce you to our expanded policy. Girls. You feel
him across the poddle. He grows the puddle, very famous
one one mon.
Speaker 2: Hello, mackle, everybody glad to be here, Welcome everybody to
the show. Awesome, it's going to be fun tonight.
Speaker 5: Someone wrote us a kind of a fan and letter
and they say, how can you never see Wan's hands
well on the air?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 5: Yeah, they are all right.
Speaker 2: I always have I always have a pennant and I
get my my skull ring on here.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, okay, I didn't know what they got
by that, but yeah, yeah. Interesting. Also with us, it's
what's given a radio show. But paint the picture. Also
with us joining us late is our international correspondence wish
Blade Steve Wood down there in my sister's hault the top,
West Virginia switching.
Speaker 13: Great to be here.
Speaker 5: Finally, Yes, so your internet crapped out or what what happened?
There's an emergency down the lock end.
Speaker 3: More than that, I dozed off, Wow with my report
in my my grubby hands, and I fell asleep, so
here I am.
Speaker 13: I woke up that I don't know what time it was,
but I was shocked.
Speaker 3: I thought, oh my god, how unprofessional this is that
I would be late for Macmoney's military.
Speaker 5: There's also it leads a comment on your enthusiastic level
enthusiasm media doesn't seem to be too high if you
fall them asleep right before the show.
Speaker 13: Well, my deep subconscious I think was very enthusiastic.
Speaker 5: Really it was, you know, it was it was very deep.
Speaker 13: So it took a while to wake up.
Speaker 5: Some day he'll some day he's got to tell that
to the cops that we're going to allow. You know,
the club wasn't going to be here tonight, so that
it Yeah, I was.
Speaker 13: It was so disappointed. I couldn't rip on him to yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, let me take his place. Okay, once again, different
completely different head, dude. Look at look at now, it's
almost like a flat top on the Are you people
see what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Then it's never evolving here, it's yeah, to evolved. Got
a little part there, he still got a part.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but what what what? What's the thing on the
side there looks like it's flattened out like he's gonna
lead the helicopter on that he was sleeping on sleeping
sleeping on his head of course.
Speaker 2: Leave the top alone in the sides raccoon.
Speaker 5: That too, Okay, maybe you got babies. He you sleep
a lot in that anyway. Promo's sleeping a lot in
the studio with us, is uh, King of the Bees
slash getaway driver, slash you a former camic Al Ronaldo?
Speaker 6: Well, hello man, hello everyone. Okay, so he did the
music just come up in the station. He's just got
loud right now. I'm going I'll go turn down the
studio monitors because all.
Speaker 5: Right, don't go around with anything else. How are you everything? Okay,
he's a good life's grand you know. It's another dam
in paradise. Really, Yeah, where do you live any day?
You wake up on the green side of the grass,
the green side you good?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, don't get let's not get into the grass.
Speaker 2: You know, all the friendly bees are giving you a
kiss every morning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll let you know. After the Yeah, I go
out to my my hose. You know, it isn't quite
tight enough, and it sprinkles a little water and there's
like about fifty of the l's bees. They're buzzing around it.
I can't get into throwing that turn. I'll turn up
at them. They're not looking for a fight, they're looking
for something to drink.
Speaker 2: They really, yeah, you should have you should have a
spout once you put out water them.
Speaker 6: I have so much water in my god, you could
bird beast fountains. Why are they overbox? Well, they don't
necessarily have to be mine. There's other beefs.
Speaker 5: I can tell the punks.
Speaker 6: They get that italent they give you the Italian Yeah forgot,
So what's about it with you?
Speaker 5: Got anyway? Also with us a couple of friends of
probably you don't know what the gossom means up there
in Edmonton, Canada, the friendly country to the north. I
wish that mockey teams were better, But you know it's
a Kim. We're gonna clap, clap, both of them. And
Kim Shay. Kim is with us.
Speaker 7: Away. Everybody is really nice to be here. Nice to
see you, Mac l.
Speaker 5: One one, Okay, okay, Kim, Sarah, thank you. Kim. Also
with us.
Speaker 2: Sarah has always got a huge smile.
Speaker 5: The teeth teeth, are you going to step all over
into is Kim's lovely wife. Sarah is with us. Sarah
now with you.
Speaker 12: Good evening, everybody, Thanks for having me on again, Mac.
Nice to see everybody.
Speaker 5: Do you do you? Have you ever bitten Kim? Do
you bite Kim with your beautiful teeth?
Speaker 12: Have I ever bitten you?
Speaker 13: Oh?
Speaker 7: Probably nighttime sleeping?
Speaker 5: What do you wake up with wounds with teeths on you?
Speaker 12: Actually, my sister recently, well about six months ago, she
woke up in the morning and realized that in the
night she had tried to eat her library book. Yeah,
she woke up in the morning and her library book
was there with her teeth marks all over it. She
had she has she's on a type of medication causes
her to sleep walk.
Speaker 5: Was it a cookbook?
Speaker 7: Was a cookbook?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 12: In any case, I don't think it was very tasty.
Speaker 5: What kind of medicaid? Oh, it's probably like ambient on,
one of those things that makes you do you know?
Speaker 12: She didn't tell me. I don't think it's anything serious
and something like that, or it's one of those I
don't know, it's like an over the counter. But it
did give her really vivid dreams and she wanted to sleepwalk.
There was a couple other instances where she got up
in the morning and things had been I don't know,
placed in weird place, but like, well, you didn't get
in the car and drive anywhere.
Speaker 5: M Kennedy's kid did that. Ted Kennedy's kid did that.
And he winds up at the Capitol building and he's
all left up and he took any and I don't
know what I was doing. So anyway, if you have
to one of Max books, well, which.
Speaker 2: I mean the Rolling Stones are quoted an album in
the south of France called Exiles and Main Street and
they did all kinds of things like that and still
kind of came up with.
Speaker 5: One of the best records ever. So the best it
might be. The best advice is if you have trouble
fall asleep, I'll give you the perfect thing. First of all,
they say, get don't lay in bed, get up and
walk around. But take three time, not two three, and
you'll be asleep in five minutes. Take it from me.
You will you know anyway, Oh you live, yeah, you
live a time like we're not killing that in other
way is right? Then three times all night?
Speaker 6: So wait a minute, don't sleep so I'm hown't wait
all night. Well, okay, likely this point now right?
Speaker 5: Not real anyway? Okay, so listen, we have a top
ten tonight and Sarah is going to read it for us.
Did you get the new top ten? By the way,
the revised top ten?
Speaker 12: I got our top ten list?
Speaker 5: Okay, it does it say up the top of revised?
Speaker 12: I got it from my lovely husband here, so I
don't know if it's the correct one or not.
Speaker 5: Lovely husband, can you check your email just to see
if there's a revised?
Speaker 7: Okay, hold it.
Speaker 5: This is we should move to Canada just to show. Okay, okay, yeah,
I got all right, Okay, okay, we got it all right.
So this is our top ten list of the night,
and if I remember right, it's top ten reasons why
Mac cannot run for president.
Speaker 12: That's not correct.
Speaker 5: This is from the Home Office. Okay. Top ten reasons
why Mac cannot run for president? And I think there's
a moning there that says what.
Speaker 12: The recycled jokes included.
Speaker 5: Okay, remember that recycled jokes included? Okay, so why don't
we stop the music right here? Top ten reasons why
Mac cannot run for president? Of the United States. Please
Sarah number ten.
Speaker 12: Number ten, he was born in Kenya.
Speaker 5: Okay, see right there, I'm up. Okay, Number nine, I
thought it was one the same thing. Next, please disqualify, Yeah,
well it does. Now, number nine, please Sarah.
Speaker 12: Number nine. His hair doesn't look like someone threw up
on a ball of orange cotton candy.
Speaker 5: Well, that's you know. Next, please imagine the specialty.
Speaker 12: Number eight. He's been accused in the past of making
love to an easy boy recliner.
Speaker 5: Wow, come on, no one gets that. No one gets that.
Speaker 12: I thought that was the qualification to be vice president.
Speaker 5: You're right on. Come on, just read the place with
the guy with the bang in the couch.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 12: Moving on number seven, he'd have to appoint agent ex
Secretary of Defense, and that would mean we'd all be
rice chrispies by next weekend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, so some reason the Okay, well there
was a let's pretend we laughed at that. Okay. Next, please.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 12: Number six. He knows too many Canadians.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yes, all right.
Speaker 12: Moving on number five, his blow up sex doll is
named Kamala.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, just a coincidence, Just a coincidence.
Speaker 3: Uh huh wow, all right.
Speaker 12: Number four, he could never get past that fake shoot
me in the ear thin.
Speaker 5: Come on, that's funny, funny, okay please.
Speaker 12: Number three Quentin Tarantino, Steve Spielberg and Martin Scorcese and
Plint Eastwood have already started a go FUNDB page against him.
Speaker 5: Get it long road, but okay, I'll contribute to that.
Oh wow, A two.
Speaker 12: Number two, he knows the pro cat lobby would really
screw him up.
Speaker 5: Okay if she didn't use the F word, that's nice, okay.
And then the reason, the.
Speaker 12: Number one reason of the MAC cannot be president. He'd
make a lousy dictator.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't know what to do. What would I know?
How would I do that? Thank you? Sarah. You know
we're going to clap for you only because it will
fail in about eight seconds. Thank you?
Speaker 13: Maybe the best person to read the top chapter.
Speaker 5: Tell Wow, I'll tell Raven you said that, okay, after
five years?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 5: Wow. Switch Also, what you did Raven not respond to
one of your texts or something?
Speaker 13: Not taking anyway taking away from Raven?
Speaker 6: Well you just did, Sarah was excellent, okay, all right,
all right, well we can go back it must have
been the teeth.
Speaker 12: Yeah, there you go. I just get my teeth cleaned yesterday.
That was it?
Speaker 2: Switch, Yes, thank you hadham polished and everything.
Speaker 12: Yes, I did.
Speaker 3: That's how I saw it, like a reflection often.
Speaker 5: That was the gleam. Yeah, the gleam. Wow. Okay, well wow,
we're all bathing in that light. Why don't we take
a coursh breakdown and we'll be right back after this.
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I'm roney, what a show we have for you tonight
for us girls. Let me introduce the Entellia Posse. But
he's at the head of the total poll. You can
feel him. If not, I don't know sense him, smell him.
I don't know. Cross the puddle. It's very there was
one one money.
Speaker 2: I'm zooming in on everybody out there in the in
the ether, you know, I'm just kind of tuning in
and pathing in. I don't know what's the opposite event pass.
Speaker 5: Well nothing, Our path would be interesting path.
Speaker 2: I am enjoying the show so far. Thank you for
having me again. Back Okay, how the hedge? Are you
always having me or Is it just because I'm part
of the show. I'm here to met whether you.
Speaker 4: Like it.
Speaker 5: Ten years Ed McMahon, So yeah, I guess you're part
of the show. How are the hedgehogs? People want to know?
Speaker 2: You know, I missed the hedgehogs in my flat that
I live in. There's no hedgehogs and no hedgehog traffic
at all on the compound the apartment complex I live in.
Even there's a lot of green grass and the croquet field.
There are a lot of a lot of nice shrubs
and plants that everybody maintains well. People do eat them,
sigle hedgehogs.
Speaker 5: They do eat them because we found recipes online for
hedgehogs stew and mistakes and stuff.
Speaker 2: You know what, I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 5: So maybe that's why they're not turning up. But anyway,
thank you one one for joining us. We appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You're welcome, my pleasure.
Speaker 5: No clumpy tonight, No, I'm sorry, sorry, we'll take that up.
Also with us is International Correspondence Switchbleed Steve Wood down
there in my cousin's tang top, West Virginia.
Speaker 13: Hey, listen, who needs club when you got me.
Speaker 5: Exactly okay, point taken. I guess, yeah, okay, how are
you working?
Speaker 3: And you could tell club I said that too.
Speaker 5: Okay, we will Mariam, He's okay, he's don with COVID.
But when we will tell him.
Speaker 2: From one navy man to another, I think he's the
demand for the job. Keep those high, and I on
those submarines like I.
Speaker 3: Used to do in a submariner, even though one me
exactly go.
Speaker 7: War.
Speaker 3: You wanted to sink the bad guys.
Speaker 5: It was one of the good guys in a bad uta,
the American sub by mistake. Well, don't mistakes happened?
Speaker 13: That would have been bad. One one really bad.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I've been close to depth charges going off. It's like,
how that is such a weird thing.
Speaker 5: A depth chodge is a very strange weapon. Yes, geez,
if you if you.
Speaker 3: To by the way where they launched depth charges and
everybody's kind of hunkering down and the things are exploding
and you're hoping Clark Gable and all the good guys
living there.
Speaker 5: But a depth charges the explosion doesn't isn't what sinks
the sub It's the water that is displaced by the explosion.
All of a sudden you have like this literally concrete
wall of water concussion hitting you, you know, and it
would just rip open subs and stuff.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 3: What was actually fun when we would stand washed. The
early watch station on the sub was called Helm from
and Plainsman, and we we we actually be driving the submarine.
We wouldn't actually decide where it was going that we
everybody would tell us that, but we would, uh, you know.
We would do all kinds of trivia, like like TV
shows that only lasted thirteen weeks or whatever. Once in
a while we would talk about the TV show Vois
to the Bottomless.
Speaker 5: I remember every.
Speaker 13: Time something happened, they they rocked back.
Speaker 3: Back and forth, and sparks would would shoot out.
Speaker 5: They had that computer screen that was like attacked by
rubber suited monsters every week.
Speaker 3: And sometimes aliens would take over. Admiral Nelson or Captain Craige.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the aliens.
Speaker 3: The aliens looked like the versus reality.
Speaker 13: We never had any aliens try to.
Speaker 3: Take us over.
Speaker 5: Come on, but I'll tell you though I want. Richard
Base Richardson was the guy and he was like kind
of a famous act. He was in Fellini films and
everything Richard based and then he picked up the paycheck whatever.
But you kind of you kind of looked at him
as like the authoritarian figure or whatever. He's the actor
for crust actor. But it got very, very very sciensation
at the I love I was home every night when that,
whenever that was on, I watched it all the time.
Speaker 3: And by the way, Mac, my my ex son in law,
who's a really good guy, is a distant relative of
Captain Crane.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: David Hessen who's in uh he was some kind of.
Speaker 3: A distant like wasn't like way back in the Beyond.
Speaker 5: He was in the Fly. He was also in Double
seven movies, right, you know he was also in the
Fly for the original He was in the original Fly.
Speaker 3: He was the different first name like that where's dandlo that.
Speaker 5: That the original f is one of the scariest horror
movies they ever made, because we all know the scene,
right yeah, listen also with us and we're gonna have
to clamp them again because they're from great friends of
the Nord. Kim and Sarah, Kim Shay and Sarah, So.
Speaker 12: Sarah happy to be here, Nice to see everybody. Thanks
for having this on again.
Speaker 13: I want to know how warm it is up there
in the north.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: Let me let me I think we're like one one
right now, we're about eighty two.
Speaker 5: Really up and quite nice.
Speaker 12: Right now.
Speaker 5: Let me kind of paint the picture here a little bit. So, Yeah,
I look at West by God Virginia. Well that's the
old name. I look at the look at Kim, and
I look at Sarah, and I think Kim's a good guy.
It looks like Anderson. Uh what's his name? Henderson? Cool
for a little bit, a little get a little bit
of thing right right, and uh, you know, Sarah's this young,
beautiful woman. So so how did you pull this life?
It's a paranormal show. Tell us how you did this?
Speaker 2: She does look like a movie star.
Speaker 5: Yeah she really?
Speaker 2: You were freaking lottery man with that girl.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, all.
Speaker 7: Right, following each other around through lives. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Wow, huh, Well congratulations Kim. So look, anyway, let's get
back to switchy, switchy. You must have had some kind
of breakfast today. Do you have a large breakfast that
made you go to sleep?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't even think about this was Tuesday,
and I was going to have to do something special.
So all I did is is a couple of miles
up the street to Tudorous Biscuit World, and I had
their classic breakfast.
Speaker 13: It was just a couple of eggs over easy, some bacon,
and a biscuit.
Speaker 3: And I didn't have much of an appetite today, so
I didn't eat the whole biscuit, but I ate the
eggs and the bacon, and I had the coffee and
just kind of was reading my book and you know,
just kind of kicked back.
Speaker 5: And eight bucks And was that eight dollars?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 3: No, I think it's.
Speaker 13: Closer to ten buns.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Really, I'm thinking the young lady that cashed me out
didn't give me my senior discount.
Speaker 5: But I you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't care for yes, very I didn't think you
were a senior you thought.
Speaker 13: Guy, you forgot that. That's hey, I'm not going to
hold it against her.
Speaker 5: That's fine, that's a compliment. I hate it, or I
can't eat the whole biscuit.
Speaker 2: What do you do?
Speaker 5: Give it to the orphans? What do you do with seagulls?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: No, I uh, he's down in West Virginia.
Speaker 2: They they left you left.
Speaker 3: Their on the plate biscuit eating.
Speaker 13: Oh come on, man, no, man, not good warmed up?
Speaker 2: You know, yes they are, Yes, they're just not warming.
Speaker 5: They're great. Put some jelly on them. Good thing club
is it?
Speaker 3: But there their biscuits are amazing. I mean, I know
it's exactly pick up like one through in the state
of Kansas.
Speaker 5: You leave half behind.
Speaker 3: All right, let's try.
Speaker 2: You're a big hitting Topeka.
Speaker 5: Right, all right, look one of these and now we
got to get the switch switches. So you have a
report for us tonight.
Speaker 3: Right, I do, But I'm I'm going to warn you guys.
You know I did not because I uh fell asleep earlier.
I did not have a chance to like review it.
And usually what I do is I I actually practice
it a little bit so I don't sound so stupid.
Speaker 4: And now it's time for another story from the Lost
Annals of the Paranormal. It's time for Steve Ward's report
from the Fringe.
Speaker 3: We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 5: Let's see what happened.
Speaker 12: You'll be great.
Speaker 5: Now, we'll put a laugh track behind If it's real stupid,
we'll put a little laughter behind it.
Speaker 3: Okay, just just I might stumble along, but you know
when Max said, well you have very fortunate I said, well, yeah.
So I went back to my my library and my
archives and fell and I found some of the old
Upon journals.
Speaker 5: Oh they're the UFO network r right.
Speaker 3: But it was so far back they back in those
days they called it Skylook to be even before I'm
a Uphon journal.
Speaker 5: What year, Yeah, this is like, what's that?
Speaker 13: March nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 5: They called the sky Look back then sky Look.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I like the UFO Journal.
Speaker 13: Hey, you know, I revized up and called it.
Speaker 5: No, it sounds like a fifties thing. I thought you
would say they did in the fifties, But go ahead,
sky Look. I love it.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I even met the director. Well come on, Walter, Oh,
my brain's gonna fail me. Well, the guy that ran
Muphon way back in the old days, well then feen
seventy six Upon symposium and and he was there and
I actually met him.
Speaker 13: That was back in the days when I was a
I had just found John.
Speaker 3: Keel, you know, and I couldn't shut up about John
Keel and the Church of John Keel. I was kind
of like a genua flexing at the Church of Johnny
anyway that in a moment. But this is this report
comes from August twenty sixth, nineteen seventy five. It was
called the Sandy Larsen case Fargo, North Dakota. Now again
I attended the nineteen seventy six yuphon supposed it was summer, and.
Speaker 12: I have.
Speaker 13: Actually there.
Speaker 3: Doctor j Allen Heinek was there. Now he was this
is ten years after he was attached to the Air
Force Project Blue Book, and he had to be kind of,
you know, straddle the fence because they the Air Force
wanted to to kind of diffuse the the UFO reports.
But he began to believe that that people were actually
seeing something significant, and so he had changed his mind.
You know, he was a very deep skeptic. He was
the astronomer for the Northwestern University in Chicago. He had
begun begun to believe that there was something really really
going on. And so uh and man, I was I
was in seventh Heaven because this event was in Ann Arbor, Michigan,
which was very I could actually drive there. I didn't
have to fly or or you know, travel for hours
to get there. And they had great people like again
at Heinek and a guy named Ray Stanford who is
still with US, I believe, and uh this was was again.
It was ten years after the so called swamp gas fiasco.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 3: I remember being a kid in Michigan when we had
that wave of uf reports in March of nineteen sixty six,
and uh, you know, there were a lot of credible
people that were reporting these things. But heinek Met made
him made a mistake again. He was trying to straddle
the fence, trying to defuse the uh you know, the
uh I don't know the pay uh homage to the
the US Air Force and what they wanted and what
he knew to be true. And so he actually he
said that some of the reports, some of them in
like Hillsdale, Michigan, might be swamp gas. And of course
the the the uh, the journalists ran to their phones
and reported in the UFO mystery assaulved their swamp gas.
So and I remember seeing that in the actually in
real time on the the news conference he gave but
m hm, so, uh, let's see, I'm going through my
notes here trying to pretend like I've got everything.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we still use the swamp gas? Oh sure today?
Speaker 13: Oh sure, it's it's and and also it's a running joke.
Speaker 3: It's going And ten years later the name of his
talk at the Mewfound Sympelosium was swamp gas plus ten
in counting.
Speaker 13: So he was it was very humorous. He was very
it was a serious talk.
Speaker 3: But he he shows these great cartoons that came up
at the time, and one of them was you'd see
these uh, little green men with the big blasters and
they had just landed in their UFO and they they
stopped a a earthling on the street and they said,
take us to the one that called us swamp gas.
Speaker 13: So I want to.
Speaker 2: Great name for a band.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, but listen, so switchy can I asked something,
switch is I know his swamp gas came from. And
I remember that whole thing in Michigan probably in the
mid sixties whatever, and they blamed it on swamp gas.
Is there such a thing as swamp gas?
Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently when the vegetation, uh, you know decays, Yes, decays, Uh.
Speaker 13: I guess it can let off some kind of a gas.
Speaker 5: But you know, yeah, but how often does it happen?
You know, this is back in Michigan in the.
Speaker 3: Area, and it's just the wrong time of year. I
think it was March where I think, yeah, so Heinich
was just he's just reaching, you know, he was. He
had the Air Force types on his back, right, you know.
Diffuse the situation, well, the backstory trying and explain it
some way or other.
Speaker 5: The backstory is this is that they had these UFO
real quick. They have this UFO flap as they call
the mid sixties in Michigan. People were seeing UFOs almost
every night. They and the f was went to you know,
quite to investigating this guy. Doctor Allen Heinek was their
guy at the time. And as you say, reaching, this
is this is something that they before going to school,
I would watch like the Daily Network news or something,
and they really kind of you know, kept hitting this
hot in a way, and everyone's kind of following in.
And then they blamed on swamp gas and one said, oh,
you know, swamp gas, I guess, and that was it.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 5: But when you think, well, how well, like I say,
how often the swamp gas happened in March, you know,
when that's really kind of cold and not you know stuff.
But people bought it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous. But the press loved it,
you know, they just love Yeah, that kind of stuff.
Getting to is that during this tuk Jerome Clark spoke there.
He was in for Jacques Ballet was supposed to speak there,
but he couldn't make it. Yes, and Jacques, of course,
we've talked about him many times on the show.
Speaker 5: Great guy.
Speaker 3: It has written many he's still with us fortunately, and
he's written many fascinating books UFOs and not terribly conventional
books on UFOs. But so Jerome Clark was talking about
the Sandy Larson case from North Dakota, and this was
a really bizarre case and it was a it was
an abduction case, but as I recall, it was one
of the first cases that dealt with very heavy paranormal overtones.
Not just your classic but you know, you duck somebody,
you got missing time, you didn't have the examine examination
of prom.
Speaker 13: But it was just really, really bizarre.
Speaker 3: So Sandy Larson and her daughter and her daughter's boyfriend,
they were like forty miles away from from Fargo, and
they heard this this gigantic noise and then the sky
lit up and they saw about eight or ten blowing
objects and they came down out of the sky and
they were kind of orange colored or whatever, and Sandy
Larson realized that. Well, they stopped, they pulled alongside of
the road and they saw there was a car in
front of them.
Speaker 13: So they pulled up and said, you did you see that?
Did you see what we saw?
Speaker 3: And they said yeah, but we're out of here, so
they weren't going to be around to verify what they
had seen.
Speaker 5: And then when they.
Speaker 3: They got about forty miles from Fargo, they realized they
had actually some missing time. And so we've talked about
this gentleman before, doctor Leo Sprinkle, who's written several books
on UFOs, and he was one of the guys that
would regress people that have had these experience to find
out what may have happened to them. And Larson, Sandy
Larson out that wasn't her real name, by the way,
under hypnosis, she said that she was you know, strapped naked,
no no, no, no comments from a peanut gallery to
to a some kind of a you know, board or whatever.
Speaker 13: And they she had a some kind of a.
Speaker 3: Physical examination, which is again now now this is back
in the mid seventies, so you know, how many times
have we heard about this, and so she she just
felt like, you know, like a like she was being
examined like like we do a frog in high school.
Speaker 13: You know, it was just really demeaning.
Speaker 3: And she also sud say she had a some kind
of a sinus condition that they seemed to uh tamper
with or whatever, and it was she was cured. So
you know, it's just it's just really bizarre. Now her
daughter had been left behind. She was felt like she
was just still in the car in the field when
they were abducted. The uh, the boyfriend felt like he'd
been taken aboard, but he just shut up about it.
He wouldn't talk about anything that happened to him. So
uh they Uh, I'm looking through my notes here.
Speaker 5: You ahead, we'll play music which I which I did
not have a chance to.
Speaker 13: Actually, uh, there's a lot more to this.
Speaker 3: When I when I heard Jerome Clark talk about it,
it was he was there was much more information. This
is just again from the article in the Van Oosum Journal.
And uh uh he said that she had this, uh
it seemed like a dream or or a vision or something,
and she uh went outside she saw this object, like
a metallic object fall from the sky and fall in
land in front of her house, and she went up
and touched it and it kind of something really freaked
her out. She dropped it, and uh, it was I
don't know if it was a real experience or not,
but she had And also these these entities or whatever
they had like bandages on their face. They were typical grays.
They weren't some of the classic aliens we've we've heard about.
So it was just a completely bizarre experience that she had.
And like so we know that that so many of
these experiences are different. You know.
Speaker 13: John Keel was the one.
Speaker 3: I'm going to bring up John Keele again who who
was talked about how much variety there was in these experiences,
suggesting that perhaps they they might not actually be physically real,
but be you know, some kind of other other I
don't know, manifestation or or something connected with human consciousness. Uh,
you know where we have all these these variety. So
it was a again it was at the time, back
in the seventies, it was like one of the first
sort of paranormal abduction experiences and then you know, from
then on we had many many more of them. That
was that was like the opening the floodgates. So they're
really really bizarre and the high strangeness aspects of some
of these experiences.
Speaker 5: Right, So let me just ask you something because you
know more about this than probably all of us. So,
there was a point in the fifties when people looked
at you know, let's say aliens. The people were in
flying classes in a good way, almost like they were angels.
There's a lot of reports aliens back then that looked
like angels. Okay, and that's how people kind of thought
of it. You know, these are angels going to come
to visit us at some point. And then people say
it had to do with that guy, Captain Mantel who
went and chased them in nineteen fifty one or so,
and he crashed and they found him and he was
like the guy whose head was in the in the
cod he was headless and stuff. And from that those
news stories. What are you doing? Switch are you petting
a cat? That better be your lap here?
Speaker 3: And I have no fear this is a marsupial.
Speaker 5: Show us his pouch. Get that thing out of the
These are platyforms. So anyway, well grow up then, okay,
like you're gonna be a cat someday. So so after that,
after the news of that, all of a sudden, like
the aliens. Uh yeah, wouldn't that be nice? That'd be great.
I'd love to come back with it. Like a cat
sleep all freaking day and when I'm awake, I'm get fed,
and then I go back to sleep. That's the extent
of it. You know, mouse comes along every once in
a while, chase it a little bit, and then go
to sleep again.
Speaker 12: So and you get a poop in a box, that's.
Speaker 5: Right, and someone else cleans it. Yeah? Yeah, what more
do you want?
Speaker 7: Anyway, I'll move to Canada celebrate that. Okay?
Speaker 5: Wow, but they.
Speaker 2: Said they celebrate cats. They build a lot of cat
houses around the country.
Speaker 7: Hang on, my friend was just here just before we
did the show, and he stops by and he says, yeah,
my friend's daughter is a cat. I said, what, Oh yeah,
they got tail and ears and she goes in the
litter box.
Speaker 15: War I've heard, I've heard stuff like this, but so
this is something who's actually these people who identify as
cats like a furry like a furry, and when they
have to go they go in the sandbox instead of
a toilet.
Speaker 5: Correct. Oh sure, okay, well, okay.
Speaker 7: Which was that artists? Was that the president artists of
move On back in the seventies.
Speaker 5: It was Chan Walter.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't know.
Speaker 7: Sorry, artists not artists.
Speaker 13: No, no, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I actually met the guy at that at the ninety
six symposium, and uh, I was, I have to tell you.
I was like I said, I was, I had discovered
John Keel and I was like the oh my god.
I was probably like forgive me, forgive me people, but
I sort of like the Jehovah's Witness pounding on your door.
You're going to give you a you know, the watchtower
or whatever. And uh wow, these people were looking at
me like, you know, when I would talk about the
the ideas of John Keel and how you know they
were so revolutionary, and they were looking at me like, okay,
you know listen, uh that the exit door is over there.
Speaker 13: I don't want want to hear this crap. And it
was like you know what it was like.
Speaker 3: It was like if you're there's like eleven thirty on
a weeknight and the insurance salesman is still there trying
to sell you insurance.
Speaker 2: That's what That's exactly what it was like, I understand
switchy was it Walter Andrews.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, doctor Key replaced.
Speaker 3: A really nice guy and he helmed the muphon for
a long time. And I just it was it was
so much fun. I meant, you know, that was that
was the That was the time when I got to meet,
you know, actual people that were writing books and and
doing this this kind of thing.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 13: Walter Webb was another one.
Speaker 3: He wrote the book called nineteen seventy three Year of
the Humanoids, and we're talking about you know, in the
fall of seventy three, there was a whole wave of
these humanoid reports in the US that were being uh
this scene and so what's a humanoid?
Speaker 9: Was?
Speaker 13: He was also a keel guy. So what we bonded?
Speaker 5: What is a humanoid? What is a humanoid?
Speaker 3: Is an entity or whatever that actually looks, uh, you know,
quite a bit like us. I mean, two arms, two legs,
two eyes and uh in a big, big bright smile,
you know, and uh maybe maybe a ray gun who knows.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, yes, But but they look like us. So
how can you tell them apart aside from the ray gun?
Speaker 3: Well, sometimes they're they're very short and stature. Sometimes their
their eyes are a little bit weird. H But this
is you know, back back in the old days, man,
we had some right humanoids. So this is before the
Grays came in and took over. I mean, I have
never ever liked the Grays. They're boring, they're they're you know,
and and and they're short. But that's okay. I'm short too,
That's not not the problem. But they got those big
black eyes. But back in the old days you could
you couldn't find too much of the way of grays.
Speaker 13: And even Nick Redfern has pointed this out.
Speaker 3: What happened It was, well, it was like in the
late seventies early eighties, Yes, seemed.
Speaker 5: To close encounters when the movie came out. People started seeing.
Speaker 3: Those encounters of the third kind late seventies or early
eighties Whitley Strieber's book with the complete frod Alien eyes or.
Speaker 13: Whatever, and it seemed like that they kind of showed
up more and more often.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, this keel White that were this
is sort of a reflective factor where we kind of, uh,
it kind of fulfills our expectations. I mean, when when
you look at the the types of craft or whatever,
they seem to always be a little bit ahead of
our technology, from the mysterious airships to the food fighters,
to the you know, on and on and rockets, ghost rockets,
and the more recent times where we had more of
a kind of a science fiction overtone. So man, who knows,
you know, I it's it's still such a a bizarre mystery.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 5: It's it's like the our I don't know, our explanation,
our vision of UFO changes with the times, it really does. Okay.
So in World War Two there were Foo Fighters, so
they're kind of like, yeah, you know, secret weapons or whatever, okay.
And then the fifties was this, as I say, you know,
the Space Brothers and everything is they're angels, you know,
the angels. And then this Philip Mantle gets shot down
and then and all of a sudden they're evil, you
know what I mean. And then things go along and
then but there's still kind of little green men from
Myles and then.
Speaker 2: Well not now all the aliens have mega hats on.
Speaker 7: Wow, Preston. Preston. Dennis Shure speaks a lot about like
how a lot of these aliens seems like the interface
is a healing one and it's let people would let
it ride out, they might discover that they actually are
trying to heal us, which is an interesting.
Speaker 5: Get the work, Get the work.
Speaker 3: That's that's right here there are. It's like like like
Mack was saying, there's sort of the angelic side, and
then there's the negative side, the evil side or whatever,
and uh, it's just it's fascinating the way that uh,
you know, preston dinner again, he has covered all kinds
of bizarre experiences and some of them are very positive,
and uh, sometimes they just seem to be negative.
Speaker 13: So you know, you wonder.
Speaker 3: Again, you know, every it's a while I stopped and wondered,
what the heck, What the heck am I doing, you know,
trying to delve into this and trying to understand it
because it is so elusive and so bizarre and so contradictory.
Speaker 5: Sometimes, well, let me ask you a question though, all right,
I'm sorry, but let me ask you a question. So
as you say, this is something that for some reason
we can't I think we can't. We can't We're not
intellectually on that level to understand it, do you know
what I mean? I mean, I've used this explanation a
lot of times is that. You know, you see nation
geographic and you see they go out in those trucks
and they take pictures of the lions eating the impaler
and all that kind of stuff. The lions just walk
right by the trucks in the tourists they don't understand
what they are, but they're just part of their life
these days, you know what I mean. Sometimes they get
underneath the truck for shade. That's how you know, kind
of used to it. Well, maybe it's that, you know,
in our existence, we see UFOs, we see the we
see them, but we can't understand them, just like the
link and understand tourists and the truck and stuff like that.
You know, we're not on the same kind of intellectual level,
if you know what I mean. Do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 12: But yeah, and then and then we get scared, and
that colors our entire experience.
Speaker 5: You don't know what it is, Yeah, you don't know
what it is, right, and so what is it? What's
the what's the explanation? Like I've said before too, you
know Isaac Asthma, with the great sci fi writer. I
saw them talk ones and someone said to them other
than like, you know, the obvious things like the car
and the airplane. What's your favorite discovery? Said the lightning rod.
Because before that, if you if your house got hit
by the lightning, or you get hit by the light here,
you were a devil. Your whole family was cursed of
the works. Okay, it's go down generations. And he says
a little simple piece of tin, Okay, solve that whole problem,
you know what I mean. So maybe at some point
someone says, well, well, what's really going on is this?
And everyone goes, oh, yeah, that makes sense, you know,
and and who knows what it is? Maybe it's just this,
you know, this kind of the universe next door type thing,
you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, head John Keel thought that these things were even
though they were unexplained, they were a natural condition of
the planet.
Speaker 13: And yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: He was just so far ahead of everybody planet. Yeah,
you know, I mentioned John Keel about three times in
every episode that we do here. But he's just amazing
and I wish that I had had a chance to
meet him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what happened to him? Like, what happened to John Keel?
Speaker 3: He just died, I think of a heart attack. Back
in two thousand and nine. He was he was elderly,
he had some health problems and uh, you know, let
me let me tell you a story that a friend
of mine met him back in the sixties. He had
been my friend, Kevin had gone to the nineteen sixty
seven Congress a scientific youuthologist at the Calendar Hotel, York City.
I wish I had been there. We were just a
junior high at the time. His mom was kind enough
to take him well that well. He next year, he
and a buddy of his, they they found out where
John Keele lived his apartment and so they went their
cold He said, we actually had the give the expression
the balls.
Speaker 13: To knock on the tour.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Keel was there.
Speaker 13: He was very friendly and generous.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And they talked for about an hour hour and a half.
John Keel was actually in his pj's.
Speaker 13: So they're all sitting there on the floor cross legged,
and he had.
Speaker 3: Like hundreds thousands of flippings all around him because that
was the early days of him doing his research into
things like the book Operation Trojan Horse, which is kind
of like the Bible of of you know, what what
the heck is going on?
Speaker 13: So and I thought, Oh God, what I would have
given to have been, but wasn't. Even the two.
Speaker 3: Thousand and three Mothmand Festival they unveiled the Mothmand statue
with with John Keel there in his white suit.
Speaker 13: And you know, and two of my buddies.
Speaker 3: They took him out to lunch and they heard all
these great stories about you know, when he was in
the war. He was he was drafted into Korea, but
they sent him to Frankfurt, and uh, oh my god,
I mean he was really one of the most interesting
people beyond the mothman and UFOs that we have ever encountered.
Was a fascinating, fascinating guy.
Speaker 5: He also he lived on the Upper West Side of
New York City, which is a very strange place for
a guy who made his living writing about paranormal stuff.
But he wrote for CBS, right, didn't he write pilots?
And didn't he write he wrote?
Speaker 3: He wrote some of the episodes of Lost in Space? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
pen names, he wrote, he wrote ed libs and did
you guys remember MERV Griffin.
Speaker 13: It was like a Tasha guy in the morning. He
and lives for him.
Speaker 3: He worked for a different factions of the government. Uh,
and let me tell you one story. When he they
took him to uh uh to uh to Frankfurt.
Speaker 5: Uh he uh, get that cat, get that cat out
of this which.
Speaker 3: Trust me, I would not lie to you. At some
oresup field, they see they kept telling him. You know,
when he was over on this uh, this carrier, he'said, oh,
you know, it's horrible over there in Europe. You know
that the trains don't run well, and and uh, you're
going to be living in a tent. And so he
gets there and this dude in a in a uniform
like a like a military uniform in the forties says
he called, uh, heel and this other guy into the
car and he he the limousine and everybody's looking at
him like what the hell is this? So to drive
it away and Keel says, are we going to be
in a tent? And he said, no, Hairkeel, You're going
to be living in the castle. They had commandeered this castle.
They made him part of the American Forces radio network.
Nice because they had he was a journalist and had
a little bit of radio experience and uh and the
first thing he did was one of the first things
he did when he wanted to do something really special
for Halloween, so he decided, you know, there really is
a Frankenstein's Castle, and Baron von Frankenstein was a dude
that supposedly slew some kind of a creature or whatever.
Speaker 13: It's got a statue of him with the creature.
Speaker 3: So Keel wrote the script like like Orson Wells, you know,
the world of worlds, and and the idea was that
this monster would come back every hundred years, so he
was coming back on Halloween night, and this thing came
back was killing.
Speaker 13: The the radio people in the in the station and
ripping them apart.
Speaker 5: And people the first ones he went for.
Speaker 3: Locking their doors and their windows, and they even sent
some MPs up to the real Pekenstein Castle make sure.
Speaker 5: It wasn't happening. He was a big name, that's funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, he was just an amazing guy in so
many ways.
Speaker 13: And like I say, I wish I had met him.
Speaker 5: Good for him, I mean, you know, it's just an
interesting place to live when you're in that kind of uh,
you know business. So anyway, listen, we're going to take
one more really quick break now, and you're listening to
Macnaalumi's Moultrisa show here in the Distance under radio that way,
so the whole gang is say, please stay tuned.
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Speaker 5: Welcome back everyone to Macloney's MILITARYSA show Here in the
Distant Thunder Radio Network. This is Macloney. I can't explain
the kind of show that's been, but I can introduce
the co conspirators. Girls. You can always hear the very
famous one one.
Speaker 2: Hell mackall. Everybody having a fun time.
Speaker 5: Time, okay, all right? Also having a fun time I
guess is International correspondent Switch floated, Steve Ward.
Speaker 13: Switch great to be here with my marsupials.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, that's your story in the studio with us
is king of the bees al Vern. Now well hello Mac,
hello everybody. I'm gonna bringmind Marsupial next week, don't you dare? Yeah?
That could be anything. That'll be a squirrel that you
have soda pouch on against his will, a rabbit. I
gotta get rid of rabbits. Okay, we introduced switch, right,
did we?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 13: You can me again?
Speaker 5: That's right? Yeah? Well also with us as switch plog
Steve Ward switch, how you doing.
Speaker 2: Wonderful?
Speaker 5: Also with us though up there and uh way up
there in Canada, our friendly nation to the north is
Kim and Sarah, say, Kim and Sarah, how.
Speaker 7: Are you making everyone used to see? Yea, I'm.
Speaker 5: Here everyone, Uh yeah, okay, that's nice. Thanks for joining
us every time, you know. None the more I look
at Kim, he really does have that Nansen coopa think
going doesn't he look at doesn't he? And he got
the glasses? He got the glasses? Is that just uh subconscious?
Self conscious? Or whatever? Is that intentional?
Speaker 7: I like Anderson? Oh he did the Republican Convention. I
don't know about him anymore.
Speaker 5: But did he come back? Did he survive that? Maybe
about Griffin show, Yeah, yeah, he was funny that. Yeah,
you guys.
Speaker 7: Remember, like he used to have that hairdresser used to
come on there, that guy named Hervey. He kind of
had long hair, he had an accent.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was thinking about him a couple of weeks ago,
and I don't know why, but he came into my mind.
I was thinking about him, and I mentioned him to Ross,
my fine friend, and I was like, he didn't remember.
And then lo and behold that woman that's married to
that orange haired Mary Largo guy. He was with her.
Speaker 5: That was like he is, well, yeah, oh well, yeah,
was shopping around.
Speaker 7: I think it's him. I was like, that's that guy.
That's a herbaie guy that used to be on MERV
Griffin that did.
Speaker 3: Hair well, you know he't have on Hermione gingled sometime.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you have.
Speaker 13: To be really old term for that stuff.
Speaker 3: So I forget.
Speaker 5: The good thing about Griffin though, one of us is
the good thing about him. And also Mike Douglas was
another guy. May be on the afternoon, sometimes they're in
the morning, but a lot of times they were on
the afternoon, like four in the afternoon. They would have
bands on, especially in the six Days they would have
like bands on that would play live, you know, like
the Stones and the Animals and stuff like that. You know,
every once in a while they'd have a cool thing
in there. And it was five days a week, so
they had a to fill up an hour, you know.
And merv was you know, he was over right, you know, Okay,
Mike Douglas was you know, just kind of buy the
book and stuff like that. But and and Dick Cavin
was another guy. He was a little more intellectual or whatever,
you know, but it was the same idea. And then
what's his name the guy filled phil Dona.
Speaker 7: City Lights, remember that one.
Speaker 3: With that Tavot was a little a little more intellectually.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, definitely, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's from from Cambridge, isn't he was he
local guys figures?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Susan was very way up there, right, yeah, yeah,
as far as intellectual stuff was concerned. But they ran
the game. But it was good because it was every
it was five days a week. It was something to
watch when he came home from school sometimes the love
and Spoonful Beyond or something, you know, and the kind
of cool you know.
Speaker 3: And also mac I got in inherited my Uh, my grandparents.
They had this old black and white TV set that
had u h F ch Yes, man, I thought I
was in heaven. You know the USF channels back in
those days, a local channel channel fifty. And they would
have uh talk shows like from New York or whatever,
just really obscure stuff like remember Joe Pine, Jo John
and uh oh god uh. And there's several other ones. Oh,
Alan ellen Burke like weird. He had one one a
show he had on John Well. John Keele was in
the audience. It came up and spoke at the at
the at the uh uh you know this the speaker
phone that they had there, yep, And it was Ivan
Sanderson was the guest, and he was talking about the
Marina Triangle and so forth, just this great stuff.
Speaker 13: And there was less uh Less Crane was another one.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I was, oh, man, it was great to have all
these these talk shows that had just off the wall
people back in the sixties that was TV, not radio TV.
Speaker 5: Yeahmember Joe Franklin. Does that name ring a bell? Joe Franklin.
Joe Franklin. He was a New York City guy, right.
He was the first guy that would come on at
five in the morning. He was the first early early guy, right,
So I had a drop back then where I had
a gut. I worked at a newspaper, so I had
to like be in work at five, So I would
watch him in the morning and he would have people
one there, you're talking about im gingle. He'd have people
on there that were so old that their records were
seventy eights, you know. But then one night, then then
one day he had the Jay Giles band on, you know,
and then one day he had Super Tramp on. But
then a lot of seventy eight hours. But he was funny.
He was one of these guys who ruled New York
and stuff like that. He hadn't been on for forty
years easily. He had a rug better than yours there switching,
but not to bring that.
Speaker 3: I think what's his name I had on Frank Sappa?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, funny. Well, you know, they had
to fill up the time, you know, and they have
a sense of human or whatever.
Speaker 7: That's cool.
Speaker 5: But anyway.
Speaker 7: It came.
Speaker 5: Can you tell the third story in okay, two.
Speaker 7: Minutes, I'll spell it off really quick. Yeah, you bet
another story off of the internet, for I should say,
YouTube it's off a gentleman that makes a series called
Beyond Creepy. It's called the Ziguli Ice Entities. It's a
missing time cave story. It happened in nineteen thirty two.
The gentleman's name was Victor Ugliev mine my pronunciation. He
was a geologist geologist with a bunch of other geologists
that were investigating these natural tunnels or caves in the
Zaguli Mountain, and it's called the Shurrevsky tunnels. They're naturally made.
I guess. It's near Samara on the Vogel River, and
a collapse occurred when they were inside. All the other
guys happened to be able to get out, except for Victor.
They searched there for a couple of days, but they
could never find him, so he was assumed killed by
the caven but a few days later he showed up
and claimed that a huge boulders had blocked his escape
and that he had to crawl forward through a small
bunch of openings until it led to his escape. But
he was well equipped. He had food and water matches,
even had an electric headlight with some spare batteries, but
he had to find his way out and he was
he was. He wandered through the cramped quarters, but he
eventually found himself in a large, kind of big room
that was kind of lightly lit with blue light.
Speaker 2: And before this he was like.
Speaker 7: Anxious, he was scared, he was hungry, he was absolutely
in a state. Okay, But as soon as he got
into this room, he said, something switched off and he
had no more fear or once. He wasn't hungry anymore,
he wasn't tired. He just became really calm, and it
overcame him, he said. Eventually he moved along where he
found a huge these huge ice blocks in this in
these walks, in these tunnels, and in case him were
these huge creatures with three fingers that were scaly, bipedal
looking dinosaurs. He said, Uh, the more he walked, the
bigger they got.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: Strangely enough, he said, a strange sadness overcame him, and
he wandered for hours where he came to a y
in the tunnel and one of the corridors had the
big ice blocks down it and the other had smaller blocks.
Was what he said, were like different critters in him
and for some reason he just felt compelled to go
look at these smaller critters. So he said, he walked
along that and had a he had a strange time
jump that. He said that his memory was missing from
some parts of the cave, and that he had no
memory of what was there. He said he came to
a bright area, a broad section with two sun rays
shining in it. He said he walked into it, and
as soon as he walked into it, he was knocked out.
He said. He awoke that some time later outside a
cave which is now outside. He was absolutely famished, confused, tired,
all of those things. But while he was kind of
coming to and looking up, he saw what appeared to
be in our terminology today would be a dog man
watching him, But he was too confused and too exhausted
to really pay too much too attention to it, he said.
He said the thing didn't really seem to be doing
anything but just watching him. So he got himself up
to find out where he was, and he he realized
he was ten kilometers away from where he was at
the Zuguli Mountain. He thought he had gone a couple hours,
but what happened was he walked back to where all
the other guys were and showed up and they were
like absolutely amazed to see him. He thought he was
gone for three hours, while he was gone for five days.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: So that's what's his name? The guy who got you know,
pulled up into the UFO in Arizona. You know, the
famous Switchy, the famous yeah traves. Yeah, he thought he
was a half hours, like years, go ahead, please, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: You know what, what's kind of really amazing about it,
I think is that it was nineteen thirty two, right, yep,
and there was no grade, there was no a nothing
talking about dogmen yeah yeah, yeah, those none of those
things who were in literature, and yet he describes all
these things to a tee in that way.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: So I just kind of thought, well, that's a kind
of an interesting story. I never heard of myself before.
But it would sure be an interesting area to go
and check out if one could, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: He gaves.
Speaker 7: And tunnels sound absolutely maybe he can't get into the
memory because they caved in. I don't know, like it
sounded just kind of strange, but he said that his sadness.
He had to tell these guys that he said his sadness,
that he said the sadness was exactly kind of way
he felt like when he walked through a graveyard and
that he thought it was like like a graveyard of
some critters that had been put in there, like coffins. Yeah,
funny coffins. It was ice.
Speaker 5: M Well, that's something that it must happened a long
time ago, you know what I mean. So hang on
a second, it seems like one one has dropped out here.
Hang on, Hopefully he didn't fall asleep. That's pretty bit hot,
as the kids say. Yeah, it's funny because he didn't
have anything to pollute his mind, you know what I mean,
back then, you know, there's nothing to suggest. Yeah, yeah,
what happened.
Speaker 7: Well, the gentleman that describes it's a good he's a
good storyteller too. That beyond creepy. But he was kind
of thinking that maybe he went somewhere else and wasn't
actually in that cave, like he was kind of eluding to,
maybe he was in a ship.
Speaker 5: Anything's possible. Yeah, yeah, well, listen, the sadness this guy
felt is well, I'm feeling not because we have to
bring the show to an end. Switch he plays with
the train crash, I will get on it. We have
to send Switch some real coke to wake them up here? Okay, well,
switches doing one is here? Want is back? All right?
I'm not doing this in any water other than oh,
thanks for joining us, ol, thank you king of the bees.
Glad to be here. Okay, all right, yep, we got
stuff to do and let's go do it. Thank you
all for joining us. All right, and keep us up
to date on the bees. Right, but you'll know after
tomorrow if you see me and them all stuff. Yeah,
I'm a real mess the bees who didn't work?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 5: Can we give away a javer honey? Though on the
show you'd have to mail it? And the problem with that,
I don't know what. Like when you go to the
post office and they say is anything breakable?
Speaker 2: Anything?
Speaker 5: You just lie to them. You know, we can do
that if we can try that, if you want to try,
Thank you all for joining us. We appreciate it. Glad
to be here. I'm gonna saved the best of the last. Switchy,
Thank you Switch with the image in the back. You're
gonna be okay, Switchy.
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm fine. I've already got a nap earlier, so
as we know, I think I could stay up late
with the grown ups now in party.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, that's good, okay, it's good Tuesday night.
Speaker 7: Still early here, still early.
Speaker 5: There you go. If you lived in Canada, you'd be
up and the cats were okay, you fed them. Okay,
that's important because you can fall asleep feed.
Speaker 3: Them and they always get their treat in the morning,
you know, and they know that they're in safe hands
with me. Really, yes, okay, well let's go, even though
the new one, Shadow is still kind of hiding a
lot from the uh the other guys.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, okay, all right. It was talk about little
kangaroos right hopping around your house, the marsupials, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And a couple of possums.
Speaker 2: You got to said that I love possums.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well we lived there cow rats. But anyway, that's okay,
U okay, we're gonna clap ahead of time for these
two because they brightened up the show. Given Sarah Shay
up there in Edmonton. No snow on the ground, eighty degrees.
Speaker 2: The zoom picture is just drowning in enamel. Here from Sarah.
Speaker 12: From thank you you too, thanks for having us appreciate
its fun to come on this show.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you enjoy it.
Speaker 5: Fun to have on the show too, Okay, And any
jokes being about Canadians earlier in the show, please forgive us.
It's your show biz. Okay.
Speaker 13: Remember my mother was Canadian the I have a license to.
Speaker 5: And so was Al's El's father mother.
Speaker 6: My mother was from Newfoundlands. That counts, but but that
was when Newfoundlands wasn't part of Canada.
Speaker 13: There we go, so you can rip on Americans anytime
you want me too.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And my oldest darter goes to Saint Queens College Queen's University, yea, Toronto.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, nice, that's a great university.
Speaker 7: What does she think? What is she liking it?
Speaker 2: She likes it, she's got she's going for a pH
d in artificial intelligence.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, yeah, no, she won't come on the shelves.
Speaker 2: It turns out she's working part time for NASA, like
I want the intern job.
Speaker 5: Well I drink.
Speaker 7: Wow, that was awesome.
Speaker 5: I can say I drink Moulson does that?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: I haven't drank that stuff. That stuff is awful. I'm
sorry in the bots and all that we're drinking.
Speaker 7: What about.
Speaker 5: Don't have what's that stuff?
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 12: Can you see it.
Speaker 5: Is stopped drinking. That one was fourteen?
Speaker 2: Okay, where was the Saint poly girl from Germany?
Speaker 7: That Minnesota?
Speaker 5: Same thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, no one's I used to like that back
in the day.
Speaker 7: I know it is. That's good.
Speaker 2: I was trying to be cool. I was getting off
of michelob and I was trying to latch onto a
cool beer. Was kind of cool to drink.
Speaker 7: Anchor steam anchor steam? M have you ever had that?
Speaker 6: He was not San Francisco against it wasn't doing it
for me, nevergans seriously.
Speaker 5: So anyway, well listen, thank you one one for joining us.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you're welcome. My pleasure.
Speaker 5: I've thanked everyone, I think, and so time for the plugs.
Home Start Troops is an organization that raises funds for
our wounded veterans. People were wounded in post nine eleven
ash and that's the that's the Iraq War and also
the Afaan Wall. These are people who came home without,
some of them missing a limb or whatever. And Home
Start Troops builds them homes that are adapted to their needs,
not a lot of stairs, lower counter space, et cetera,
et cetera. And then when they build them the homes,
they give them the keys, they rip up the mortgage
with their home forever, they don't have that mortigage payment
thing hanging over their heads, and you know, and they
can rejoin society, you know, and kind of readoin normal life.
Let's say these are people who gave a lot for us,
and so we should give a lot for them homeless
our troops. Ninety cents of your charity dollar goes to
a veterans, So please google them and see what they're about. Also,
we always say John McCain was not a loser. He
was a war hero. These are people that you have
to look up to, all right, he's a patriot, and
you don't make fun of people like that. Also, I'm
just going to urge people to look into Project in
twenty twenty five, whatever the name is, because what they're
going to do to veterans if this thing ever goes through,
is a disgrace. Basically, what happens if you're in the
service and you have some kind of a problem when
you have to go to the Veterans Administration, that'd be
some kind of medical problem. After ten years, no matter
where you are, they're going to cut you off. That's it,
that will be and you're on your own. Also, if
you have a you know, if you're getting a pension
from the military, you cannot also have veterans benefits, which
is not right at all. But that's one of the
things that they're closing. Yep. And also they're talking about
closing a lot, closing veterans facilities where they really should
have more of them, and sending the people to community
health centers. Now I'm not saying anything about the community
health as centers, you know, I'm sure that they're great
wherever they are, but you don't send out veterans to
places like that. Those are places that have a doctor,
have a dentist, have a barber shop.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Come on, these are people who gave a large portion
of their lives in the service of this country. Okay,
And I said it before. What's the matter with us,
what's the matter with anyone to even think of this,
to treat our veterans that way? It's just not right.
It's not right. Project twenty twenty five. Just see what
it's about. Okay. Just the veterans spot scary. What else
they want to do is also very scary anyway, Uh,
this is back for the entire gang. Until you hear
us again. Please be safe, be happy, and bye bye.
Speaker 2: I hear the love st.
Speaker 7: When he's reading on my face.
Speaker 12: It hasn't stopped reading for days.
Speaker 7: My world is a fucking.
Speaker 1: So may I become one with the money monifie can't
swim after body days in my mind has shut five
to fish away and let me out su high stand
and I fall, and me up, Let me up when
on the fall, and let me up.
Speaker 9: We fill up time and let me up. Get you
the fool me here, let me up to keep me
some drowns in the down, pouring my soul.
Speaker 7: Slashing into the ocean.
Speaker 9: I'm losing control.
Speaker 1: Dark sky all around, and I can feel my feet
touching the ground. Party fine cast swim after party days
and my mind as rush fire and crashing wags.
Speaker 9: Let me out s high?
Speaker 1: Can I fall?
Speaker 9: If ut all these things in my mind? And I
was packing the way with me up, so I can
I fall?
Speaker 12: I sup when I fall.
Speaker 9: And the begin of dona the beeple down and gain
Speaker 1: Up well fup begging