Speaker 1: What's up you guys. It's me Cecily Knobler here with
Speaker 1: Stephanie Wilder Taylor. Three names baby hell yeah. Yeah. I'll
Speaker 1: never go on whispering Aileen's because they always point out,
Speaker 1: they say they're always picking on people with three names,
Speaker 1: and every time someone says something they don't like, they'll
Speaker 1: be like, it's always the three named bitches. They say that.
Speaker 1: They say a lot of mean things. They are they're
Speaker 1: rough over there, that's that's so mean. They say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's the least of the things. They will bully people into,
Speaker 1: like weaving Facebook. I know better to say anything, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes they put people in their place rightfully.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to go a long, long time ago, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to just retell this so fast because a
Speaker 2: lot of people are not going to remember this because
Speaker 2: it was literally years ago.
Speaker 1: I because didn't I turn you onto whispering aliens? I
Speaker 1: think I sure did. You invited me and you had
Speaker 1: to have an invite back then and like prove.
Speaker 2: Your worth, okay, So I didn't understand the seriousness of it.
Speaker 2: I think I was just so what WHI was spring
Speaker 2: aliens is they talk a lot of like Housewives stuff, right,
Speaker 2: it's mostly Bravo almost all Bravo related.
Speaker 1: There's some other occasional stuff, but it's Bravo centric.
Speaker 2: So at the time, at the time, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if this was this lot, I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was live happening, but I was still mad.
Speaker 1: The controversy was about. It was about Lisa vander Pump.
Speaker 2: It was the season where Lisa vander Pump and her
Speaker 2: brother Yeah, died and Lisa vander Pump and everybody was
Speaker 2: also accusing her of talking too much about Lucy lu
Speaker 2: Lucy Apple Juicy and saying that Deree returned a dog
Speaker 2: to the kill shelter.
Speaker 1: And my point was.
Speaker 2: That I went on whispering Aileen and I was like,
Speaker 2: but hey, you know, the problem is that when they
Speaker 2: were talking and I'm sorry, I'm messing this up, but
Speaker 2: Lady Lisa, no, Lisa vanderpu Erica, Lisa vander Pump said,
Speaker 2: wanted to go around the table and say if there
Speaker 2: was anything that they had an issue with, like they
Speaker 2: should say it right now, and everybody thought she was
Speaker 2: going to talk about the Dree thing.
Speaker 1: She didn't.
Speaker 2: She was just like, well, my only thing is that
Speaker 2: I'm I'm just still like a little bit. It kind
Speaker 2: of hurt my feelings that Erica like did not really
Speaker 2: reach out when my brother died, and Erica lost her
Speaker 2: mind and stood up and was like, oh no, you're
Speaker 2: not going to bully me, and like I wrote, took
Speaker 2: a what do you call those slip? I took a
Speaker 2: buck slip off Tom's desk and I wrote sorry about
Speaker 2: your loss, and I had an assistant.
Speaker 1: Like send it to you.
Speaker 2: And then Lisa was like, well okay, but like everybody
Speaker 2: else hmm called me like you didn't even text me,
Speaker 2: and she was like, oh, you are not going to
Speaker 2: do this, and she started like yelling at her, and
Speaker 2: I was so mad. I was like, her brother died,
Speaker 2: so I put that in the thing. I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I thought that really sucked, like screw Erica. And people
Speaker 2: went crazy, they lost their minds. They came for me
Speaker 2: so hard. And the way they talked to you on
Speaker 2: there too. She was like you're so stupid, You're like
Speaker 2: stupid and crazy, and I was like, how dare you now?
Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of funny, like I wasn't
Speaker 2: even that offended, but they got.
Speaker 1: Really mad at me. So then they sent me.
Speaker 2: To another Facebook group called Judging Aleen's where there was
Speaker 2: a fake court case about my mind beef with this
Speaker 2: other Facebook person in Whispring Aleen's. And then they had
Speaker 2: a judge and they had a time and I had
Speaker 2: to state my case and then a judge took my
Speaker 2: case and I think did not judge in my favor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we thought that was so funny. I thought
Speaker 1: it was hilarious, but they were very serious. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're so mean. And then like you can't and you
Speaker 1: can't dirty delete. It's a whole thing. I just posted
Speaker 1: the other day really quick, because occasionally I do post
Speaker 1: because you know, you want the likes just for fun. Also,
Speaker 1: you know, I want a little community. But yeah, running
Speaker 1: you know, you know Ronney's coming back. Ronnie is coming
Speaker 1: back in like a week. But the new one right
Speaker 1: on Hulu. It's not the shitty ones. I actually don't
Speaker 1: know the cast, and I think if you could look
Speaker 1: it up while I'm telling this quick story, who the
Speaker 1: new Ronny cast is? Okay? Because I don't know they're
Speaker 1: rerunning Ronnie from season one. I was watching and I
Speaker 1: was laughing so hard. Remember when Alex and her Australian
Speaker 1: husband Simon went to the uh. They like were like
Speaker 1: it's the opening of the opera, and they got all dress,
Speaker 1: they got hair and makeup done, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I think that I poined a new phrase called cringe
Speaker 1: of itis. I go, I think I have cringe of itis.
Speaker 1: And I think I made that up? Did I make
Speaker 1: up cringe of ittis? I think you made up? Well? Oh,
Speaker 1: which is going to bring us to Perez actually speaking
Speaker 1: of trademarking things in a second, which is what we're
Speaker 1: here to talk about. That, Okay, but I and then
Speaker 1: people liked it. So who's the rony cast?
Speaker 2: Okay, the Rony cast is not anybody we know except
Speaker 2: for Carol Raziwell.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm already loving that it's Carol.
Speaker 2: It's somebody other people say, s a I Sy that's
Speaker 2: from the last that's the that's the new cast, Okay,
Speaker 2: Aaron is lichiessel Tunk Oh yeah, Carol Rasiwell, Hailey Glassman,
Speaker 2: Erica Hammond.
Speaker 1: And Daisy Toy. I don't know all those people, but
Speaker 1: a lot of them are from the new Slash New
Speaker 1: Cast like side just like a lot of those. But
Speaker 1: maybe Carol will help. But it's kind of weird because
Speaker 1: it's like, well, now we're just faking friendships. When was
Speaker 1: she friends with these people? Right, buddies with Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: it's not going to work. I'm all about the Ultimate
Speaker 1: Girls Trip, which is also in just a couple of days,
Speaker 1: but before we get a couple of ra Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean on the twelfth I think or the sixteen. Oh,
Speaker 1: because this is not coming till September a Ronie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well they changed it because the maybe that's something else,
Speaker 1: but the Ultimate.
Speaker 2: Girl September eighth, season sixteen, right, yeah, because that's the
Speaker 2: one that Carol's coming back to.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so we're getting into Perez. I'm sure you are
Speaker 1: probably a lot of you listening. Maybe you more than
Speaker 1: you want to know about that. Last week was really rough.
Speaker 1: We did an emergency show about what went down with
Speaker 1: Prez Hilton. It was not easy to talk about. We
Speaker 1: should say probably trigger warning for today as well, although
Speaker 1: a little bit less so because we're not. It's not
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how you can get any
Speaker 1: worse or crazier. But if you didn't listen to that
Speaker 1: and want some updates from us, you know, go back
Speaker 1: and listen to that or don't. We're here for you
Speaker 1: either way. But we didn't get to a few things,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot to talk about with Prez. Who
Speaker 1: is he's I don't want to say he's okay, that
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the right word. But he is still being
Speaker 1: held by the Baker Act, you know. I guess I
Speaker 1: could say against his will in a hospital. I'm going
Speaker 1: to read the family statement because we didn't read that
Speaker 1: yet or it hadn't come out yet, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: read some of it, not all of it. But they
Speaker 1: want to point out that there's many false and inaccurate
Speaker 1: reports circulating in the media regarding Perez. We could have
Speaker 1: been part of that because so many people I know
Speaker 1: were really pushing, you know, certain things even we were
Speaker 1: talking about, like the sepsist part of it, which is possible.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that's what he's going to say,
Speaker 1: don't you think, because it's easier to say that and
Speaker 1: say I just had a psychotog break. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's easier to blame it on something, but you said
Speaker 1: that you thought that that is what's going on with him.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think that. I didn't think it when
Speaker 1: we did the show last week, but I think it
Speaker 1: is sort of possible. I don't know. They say, we
Speaker 1: want to confirm Perez remains hospitalized. Now this is as
Speaker 1: of Senate Seal hearing this Menday. We're recording Sunday, so
Speaker 1: maybe this has changed. But under Florida Baker Act, his
Speaker 1: communication has been extremely limited and confined to immediate family,
Speaker 1: medical providers, and others directly involved in his care. He
Speaker 1: has not communicated with the media or issued any public statements.
Speaker 1: The only statements regarding Perez that should be considered credible
Speaker 1: and authorized are those published directly on Perez Hilton dot com,
Speaker 1: which this is coming from via Reddit. Perez's condition remains
Speaker 1: serious but stable. He experienced significant blood loss and sustained
Speaker 1: additional injury that will require surgery in the coming days.
Speaker 1: His treatment and recovery will be a long process. We
Speaker 1: are grateful that Perez was able to spend time with
Speaker 1: his mother and sister yesterday. Our family remains focused on
Speaker 1: Prez's treatment and recovery, and we also need the space
Speaker 1: and privacy to care for everyone affected by them by
Speaker 1: the situation. Now there's a lot more to that, but
Speaker 1: I a lot of people are having a lot of
Speaker 1: feelings about the request for privacy, which I guess we
Speaker 1: can go ahead and get into. And I guess first
Speaker 1: I should just ask you, like, what is your initial
Speaker 1: thought on that?
Speaker 2: God, I don't know because I don't. It's hard because
Speaker 2: I don't really care that much about him, and I
Speaker 2: feel like it seems like probably drug. I don't know,
Speaker 2: because Okay, if he did have or are you saying,
Speaker 2: what do I think about his want for aind.
Speaker 1: Of stuff to look at too? The privacy thing, people
Speaker 1: are like, that is so fucking hypocritical, But fine, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll be better than you, will be better than you
Speaker 1: were for decades, right, I mean, I understand that's just
Speaker 1: what you say. But something else I didn't mention is
Speaker 1: shortly after So yeah, he started kind of having these
Speaker 1: religious revelations after he was hospitalized for something else, and
Speaker 1: that could be sepsis related. I don't see how that
Speaker 1: would carry over this much longer. But he was also
Speaker 1: having a lot of trouble paying his bills. He kind
Speaker 1: of a lot of people allegedly are saying he overextended.
Speaker 1: You know, he did have a surrogate for these three
Speaker 1: kids that he now has, and he lost some work
Speaker 1: when he was in the hospital, and so he was
Speaker 1: there's a baby mama for these I guess there is
Speaker 1: that he knows, but I don't know who that was.
Speaker 1: And I thought that he had a boyfriend for a while,
Speaker 1: but now I'm not sure. I'd have to look that up.
Speaker 1: But it is basically just him with three kids, okay,
Speaker 1: And so he was a little low on cat And
Speaker 1: the only reason I'm bringing that up, I'm not even
Speaker 1: really sure why, but it was just seemed kind of
Speaker 1: an important part of the story, not to in any
Speaker 1: way imply that what he did was because he was
Speaker 1: desperate for likes or clicks or anything. I don't think
Speaker 1: I think he absolutely had a psychotic break obviously, but
Speaker 1: you know, maybe, like my initial thought was, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: either some built in mental illness that he's always had
Speaker 1: and or which is possible, and or some serious drugs
Speaker 1: that led you know, maybe he's I know, he's been
Speaker 1: open about having suffered with very serious depression, which to
Speaker 1: me I completely can relate to. But also it reads
Speaker 1: to me as like then bipolar, because if he's having
Speaker 1: such dark depressive days as we saw here and mania
Speaker 1: and swinging between, did you see that they put? Okay,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm all over the place, but I'm like
Speaker 1: a hyped up because it's so crazy. This other thing
Speaker 1: got posted where he was interviewing some guy and I
Speaker 1: didn't know who the guy was. Did you see that
Speaker 1: that tatted up guy. I'll probably know who he is.
Speaker 1: I didn't look into it, but he was interviewing this
Speaker 1: guy that had gone away, maybe gone to jail in
Speaker 1: like a hospital, and he was going through it and
Speaker 1: was better now, and Perez was interviewing him on some
Speaker 1: kind of live stream. But Perez was doing the thing
Speaker 1: where you know, on like a live stream on Facebook,
Speaker 1: it can you can have set to a certain thing
Speaker 1: where it adds like a cowboy hat, a cartoon cowboy hat,
Speaker 1: a mustache, you know, that was rotating through. So it
Speaker 1: was very strange. And then he had that going. But
Speaker 1: then Perez just started crying and he was like, but
Speaker 1: you're okay now, right, Like you're okay, and the guy's like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, and so he's like, how's your mom? And
Speaker 1: then Perez and then the other guy goes, why are
Speaker 1: you crying? He said this to Perez and this is
Speaker 1: not that long ago, and Prez is like, I just
Speaker 1: I'm like, just really glad, You're okay, really glad. And
Speaker 1: it was read as very severe depression, right like, but
Speaker 1: it was so weird to have his like a cartoon
Speaker 1: mustache appear every five seconds during this thing. It's like, dude, dude,
Speaker 1: and it was like like and subscribe pointed at the bottom,
Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, this is so funny looking weird.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that why that would even matter,
Speaker 1: but it was interesting to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's basically he's been having issues for a while.
Speaker 2: This isn't like a sudden no which people are saying.
Speaker 2: People are saying, beautiful people. A lot of people are
Speaker 2: saying that this is this has kind of been coming.
Speaker 2: It's well, it's something's been coming. We could never have
Speaker 2: ever predicted this with his kids. And by the way,
Speaker 2: another report and I don't.
Speaker 1: Know if this came from the website, but I imagine
Speaker 1: it's too that the kids were there they had been
Speaker 1: they'd been ushered out when he started acting erradically, maybe
Speaker 1: before this started getting you know, record screen grabbed. He
Speaker 1: was acting and somebody rushed family member rushed over and
Speaker 1: got the kids out before he was like naked and cutting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then don't don't forget the Basically, the police
Speaker 2: when they came over, we're like, okay, well, there's not
Speaker 2: a lot we can do because you know, he has
Speaker 2: a weapon.
Speaker 1: So we talked about that last week, and I changed
Speaker 1: my mind on that because I was telling a story
Speaker 1: how that happened with a friend of mine where it
Speaker 1: did not turn out well for my friend. He's not
Speaker 1: with us now. But the police were very adamant, like,
Speaker 1: we can't if what they're looking for is a death
Speaker 1: by cop situation, we can't knowingly go into that. And
Speaker 1: we also can't put ourselves in a harms way, like
Speaker 1: on purpose. Right. So I don't know if Perez had
Speaker 1: a gun, but if he was acting a certain way,
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I understand the policy a little bit more. Oh, I
Speaker 1: do didn't that? Yeah, I guess I was so mad
Speaker 1: at the LAPD, but that was a little bit before
Speaker 1: when they brought in the mental health units. And for Perez,
Speaker 1: of course he's a celebrity, so they they had the
Speaker 1: best sort of hostage negotiators on that there could be
Speaker 1: right and it worked. They were able to get him to,
Speaker 1: you know, stop all that right now. Why TikTok left
Speaker 1: it up for fifteen minutes is beyond anything I'll ever understand.
Speaker 1: Like it is, we should have a class action suit
Speaker 1: against TikTok for what we were exposed to as people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and TikTok has had to answer for that and said, oh,
Speaker 2: there was a moderator issue.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're so full of shit. It's a money
Speaker 1: issue because you know that more people that are watching it,
Speaker 1: there's more money for them, right, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people tuned in because everyone's like, holy shit, now there's
Speaker 1: a lot of Reddit threads to get to our Reddit comments.
Speaker 1: But Stephanie had an interesting take that I think is important.
Speaker 1: We were going to kind of go back first through
Speaker 1: some of Perez's like controversial, like the way he changed
Speaker 1: the landscape of gossip telling in many ways. He was
Speaker 1: so relentless and ruthless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we you know, I didn't remember a lot
Speaker 2: about him but a lot of celebrities are sort of
Speaker 2: being like, you know what, fuck him, I don't care.
Speaker 1: He did a lot of yeah, a lot, And I
Speaker 1: was like, they wish him well, they don't want him
Speaker 1: to die, and they'll give him his privacy, but like, also,
Speaker 1: he's a terrible human is what a lot of people
Speaker 1: are saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think we read some of that last
Speaker 2: time about like I feel like it was like rumor
Speaker 2: Willis we talked about like people that said he was
Speaker 2: really he talked about them being like when they were
Speaker 2: like fourteen. This person this is on a pop culture
Speaker 2: thread hosted Lady Gaga's uh this is from twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: She did a tweet because it was still tweeting at
Speaker 2: the time, where she said, still have the text Perez
Speaker 2: sent me of me in a wheelchair with the words
Speaker 2: karma written across, plus Madonna pointing a gun at me
Speaker 2: day of my accident. Like that's pretty crazy. So that
Speaker 2: means that they were already feuding a bit.
Speaker 1: And really that's how probably stopped putting cocaine in my
Speaker 1: face and a dick drawn on my face. I'm sure
Speaker 1: she was just like, please stop. Yeah, I guarantee she
Speaker 1: didn't do anything that crazy to deserve that, like what
Speaker 1: the fuck? Yeah, and he stalked her, which we talked
Speaker 1: about last week too. He full on stalked her, did
Speaker 1: he Gaga? And then he also, well, would you like
Speaker 1: to read some of the contraver like the Lindsay Lohan
Speaker 1: Britney Spears like yes that he was doing. I have
Speaker 1: a few. Do you want me to go first? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, I have the Britney Spears stuff, it says. In
Speaker 2: the early years of his blog, Hilton criticized Britney Spears
Speaker 2: amid the singer's highly publicized personal struggles. The blogger reportedly
Speaker 2: blasted Spears as an unfit mother in two thousand and
Speaker 2: seven after an incident in which she struck a car
Speaker 2: with an umbrella. Oh. Following the overdose death of actor
Speaker 2: Heath Ledger in two thousand and eight, Hilton featured custom
Speaker 2: T shirts with the message why couldn't.
Speaker 1: It be Britney? I remember that? Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Yes, he was selling them on his website then, he says.
Speaker 2: Hilton later expressed regret over his harsh stance on Spears
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, but by the way, that was
Speaker 2: like fifteen years later. And he says, yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: I did not express myself as well as I could have.
Speaker 2: Oh you think, he says, I didn't lead with empathy
Speaker 2: and compassion, which thankfully, it seems like most people now
Speaker 2: are understanding the severity of Britney's situation. But I absolutely
Speaker 2: apologized and carried deep shame and regret, and.
Speaker 1: I believe that he does. I genuinely do believe that
Speaker 1: he carries deeper I do. I think that those things,
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't know how balved he is,
Speaker 1: but someone can I just tell you really quick. Someone
Speaker 1: was telling a story. I don't know this person, but
Speaker 1: they said they used to be a journalist and they
Speaker 1: went to a club and Perez. This was way way back,
Speaker 1: and Perez was there with Katy Perry. They were buddies,
Speaker 1: which tells you everything you need to know. I believe
Speaker 1: of k And they said they were wasted, like maybe
Speaker 1: coked out, but definitely waste it. And the guy like
Speaker 1: the guy was like hey, and pres was like who
Speaker 1: are you? And he was like, I've interviewed you so
Speaker 1: many times, like I literally took photos for you for
Speaker 1: like your book, you know, for some for blah like
Speaker 1: know me and He's like whatever, and he said that
Speaker 1: Pres just kind of cackled the weirdest story. And then
Speaker 1: he goes, he's like, you're a piece of shit. The
Speaker 1: guy said, he says to President's time, He's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you're like just the biggest asshole, and he goes, you're
Speaker 1: the second biggest asshole I've ever met. And Press loved
Speaker 1: it and was like, well, who I love it. Who's
Speaker 1: the first biggest asshole?
Speaker 3: And then I don't remember the guy's answer, oh, because
Speaker 3: I was I was so focused on Prez that I
Speaker 3: actually don't remember what he said. But he was buddies
Speaker 3: with Katie and they were just fucked up. So you know,
Speaker 3: I take the cocaine drawing cocaine out of someone's nose
Speaker 3: with a grain of salt, except that these people were
Speaker 3: very young, Yeah, like very young.
Speaker 2: Okay, keep going, well, there's there's uh Lindsay Lohan stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Oh he was relentless with her. We
Speaker 1: all were, though bally sort of led by him.
Speaker 2: It's funny, though I tried to I tried to find
Speaker 2: out stuff. Perette Okay, Perez Hilton and Lindsay Lohan's share
Speaker 2: a long, contentious history rooted in the two thousands tabloid culture,
Speaker 2: where Perez Hilton frequently targeted her during her public struggles,
Speaker 2: leading to intense online feuds, legal threats from her father,
Speaker 2: and a bizarre joint cameo appearance as themselves judging a
Speaker 2: national singing competition. At the peak of his blog's influence,
Speaker 2: he routinely posted invasive, mocking, and critical coverage of Lindsay
Speaker 2: Lohan's personal and legal troubles.
Speaker 1: He called her firecrotch. Remember he coined the phrase firecrotch,
Speaker 1: which we talked about on Best Weik ever we mentioned it.
Speaker 1: Nobody's innocent here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, oh, but there's I mean, there's
Speaker 2: so much more. Okay, let me, I'll tell you a
Speaker 2: little bit from Okay. He's been sued a lot. There's
Speaker 2: been civil litigation. He had illegally posted recordings of Britney
Speaker 2: Spears on his website. The illegal postings included at least
Speaker 2: ten completed songs and unfinished recordings leaked over a period
Speaker 2: of three months. Spears wasn't even a party to the
Speaker 2: suit like Sony BMG I think sued him. On October eleventh,
Speaker 2: twenty two thousand and seven, A judge cleared the way
Speaker 2: for Hilton to be deposed in an ongoing defamation suit
Speaker 2: brought against him by Samantha Ronson after a post Yeah
Speaker 2: after a post on prece, Hilton claimed that she had
Speaker 2: planted cocaine in Lindsay Lohan's car and set Lohan up
Speaker 2: to be photographed while under the influence of alcohol and drugs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that got settled. He was named as a defendant
Speaker 2: in a lawsuit filed by the attorneys of Colin Ferrell
Speaker 2: because he posted a link to Ferrell's sex tape with
Speaker 2: his girlfriend then girlfriend Nicole Naraine.
Speaker 1: How was he getting these things? How did he get
Speaker 1: the sex tape?
Speaker 2: He posted a topless picture of jen Annaston. It was
Speaker 2: misappropriated and illegally copied from unreleased footage from her two
Speaker 2: thousand and six pick.
Speaker 1: Movie The Breakup. You know, I used to see him
Speaker 1: all the time. I forgot to mention. It's so weird.
Speaker 1: I the Coffee Bean used to be on Sunset in
Speaker 1: Fairfax and it was my spot for like decades, huh,
Speaker 1: And he was there. He would just go there and work.
Speaker 1: Had he set up a little office he had like
Speaker 1: his seat. It was always his seat and he was
Speaker 1: real weird about it. I think one time I tried
Speaker 1: to say like hey, and he was very odd. He
Speaker 1: was very odd, wasn't like hey because my friend and
Speaker 1: I joked, was like you're like the mayor of the
Speaker 1: coffee being over here, and he just didn't. He wasn't like,
Speaker 1: I mean, this has nothing to do with anything, but
Speaker 1: he was just strange. My interaction with him was not positive.
Speaker 1: And then many years later, a friend of mine started
Speaker 1: saying that word amaze balls. She really just kind of
Speaker 1: made it up, and he heard her say it like
Speaker 1: they were at a party, and then he started putting
Speaker 1: it on his site and she got mad and she
Speaker 1: was like, yay, that's kind of my thing.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know that she trademarked it, but she was
Speaker 1: really upset about it. Do you remember that she was
Speaker 1: like kissed. I do remember that. Maybe she wrote it
Speaker 1: somewhere and then he just took it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can own a word like that.
Speaker 1: That's like when Jean Simmons tried to buy like, say
Speaker 1: oj that he trademarked oj as in like orange juice,
Speaker 1: trying to like stropic that we all sort of say
Speaker 1: things there's a fine line. But I have Do you
Speaker 1: have any other of the ones?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 1: Just I just have about how he was outing gay celebrities.
Speaker 2: So yeah, out of Atlans Bass, Yeah he did who
Speaker 2: ended up coming out as gay? But I think Perez
Speaker 2: had leaked it first, yep.
Speaker 1: And he really defends that.
Speaker 2: It says Hilton received criticism for having been partially responsible
Speaker 2: in the outing quote. It upsets me that people think
Speaker 2: what I'm doing is a bad thing, he told Access Hollywood.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad thing. If you know
Speaker 2: something to be a fact, why not report it? Why
Speaker 2: is that still taboo? And then he often another he
Speaker 2: would question Neil Patrick Harris all the time until.
Speaker 1: He remember that as gay? Yep. Uh yeah, Paul lind
Speaker 1: what if Paul Lynde was one of them? They're like,
Speaker 1: well we kind of knew that one, but that's okay whatever.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Also in the statement that was put out a few
Speaker 1: days ago from the I didn't read this one part
Speaker 1: because it was so long, but he did. They did
Speaker 1: say in the statement on pres hilton dot com. We
Speaker 1: also ask people, but we also ask photo agencies not
Speaker 1: to just publish or distribute any photographs of the children
Speaker 1: that may have been taken, and then it says for
Speaker 1: more than a decade, Perez Hilton dot com has maintained
Speaker 1: a no kid's policy, which was never the case. I
Speaker 1: love that it's more than a decade, so what ten
Speaker 1: ten years in one month? Uh huh? Because he couldn't
Speaker 1: get those pictures anymore, meaning that the site does not
Speaker 1: publish photographs of children unless they are attending a public
Speaker 1: event where their family has chosen to make those photographs
Speaker 1: of public. Well, I mean, yeah, okay, fine. The people
Speaker 1: really did not like that on Reddit, like people were pissed,
Speaker 1: so like, can I just read you one of the
Speaker 1: comments on that. Of course, someone said, well, he and
Speaker 1: his family do deserve complete privacy, but it's weird to
Speaker 1: see this grandstanding of the no kids policy when this
Speaker 1: man posted upskirt photos of actual children. And then someone
Speaker 1: wrote back, yeah, the no kids policy has only been
Speaker 1: for a decade, so anything before twenty sixteen doesn't count. Wow,
Speaker 1: Like they're right, right, And then someone said, am I tripping?
Speaker 1: Or doesn't he have a whole website just for celebrity kids?
Speaker 1: He did used to, I think he did, so I
Speaker 1: guess you know, at some point somebody made him take
Speaker 1: that down, and somebody yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was the thing with Bruce Willis's kids. Yes,
Speaker 2: it was going off when they were fourteen.
Speaker 1: When they were even younger than that, that's another comment
Speaker 1: they said. And when he would talk about Demi Moore's
Speaker 1: kids and Adam Sandler's kids and would call them straight
Speaker 1: up ugly, he would just call them ugly. And I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, Rumor Willis was probably eleven. Yeah, he called
Speaker 1: Rumor a potato head. Remember, that was the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, he you know, and we all just it
Speaker 1: was just so normalized. And I'm not saying that other
Speaker 1: people are not like we. I don't know that I
Speaker 1: would have said that, but things were said on shows
Speaker 1: that I was on, you know, and it's terrible. It's
Speaker 1: fucking terrible. It says the Willis girls post made my
Speaker 1: heart hurt. That's what you were talking about the other day.
Speaker 1: She said that it's comments, as his comments wrecked her
Speaker 1: and drove her to think about self harm. Hosting retaliatory
Speaker 1: photos of his children is wrong, but constantly trumpeting his
Speaker 1: hypocrisy is okay. I like to see the comments reminding
Speaker 1: everyone of this man's empire of filth and needless cruelty.
Speaker 1: So it's really it is interesting because you know, it's
Speaker 1: not the time. Maybe maybe not, you know, no, it's
Speaker 1: not the time. It's it's so fucking horrible what just happened.
Speaker 1: We can we can all be better and forgive. But yeah, so,
Speaker 1: but he's also still resting. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, it's it's pretty fucked up to do that online
Speaker 2: and do that in front of your kids. So I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess you can say, Okay, well he wasn't in
Speaker 2: his right mind, but I don't know, can we still
Speaker 2: like not think that's cool?
Speaker 1: Also, there's exactly that. And also who's going to take
Speaker 1: the care That's going to be our next big question
Speaker 1: when we cover more once he starts talking, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure what he's going to say is I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: that was so fucked up. I'm sure he'll he'll get it.
Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully he will come out of a psychosis,
Speaker 1: so who'll be treated properly, he will be put on
Speaker 1: the right meds. We hope that, and hopefully his statement
Speaker 1: will you know, I'm sure, I'm sure because I think
Speaker 1: he's having this reckoning like this, I really fucked up.
Speaker 1: I really fucked up. But it's just interesting to me
Speaker 1: that it all comes around the same time that he's
Speaker 1: out of cash or a little hurting for cash, which
Speaker 1: he's like blaming when you're.
Speaker 2: Having a reckoning and you're like, oh, I feel so
Speaker 2: ashamed about what I've done?
Speaker 1: Do you do more shameful shit?
Speaker 2: Like do you go I'm going to publicly go on
Speaker 2: TikTok and like traumatize and traumatize my kids everyone, and
Speaker 2: as a way to say sorry for how I've acted,
Speaker 2: like that does it does some things? The math ain't
Speaker 2: mathin as the kids not methane. And then this, by
Speaker 2: the way, the stuff I'm reading is literally okay, we're
Speaker 2: recording this a day before you're hearing it, but this
Speaker 2: is from like an hour ago. This is from fash
Speaker 2: And someone said, I remember one episode of Tyra Banks
Speaker 2: talk show. She literally bribed him with a judge spot
Speaker 2: on America's Next Top Model in exchange for him not
Speaker 2: posting invasive photos of children with his insults written across
Speaker 2: them for six months? Did you know that Tyra made
Speaker 2: that deal with them?
Speaker 1: When they talked about it, she talked about her show,
Speaker 1: he agreed and acted like it was an act of benevolence.
Speaker 1: It was gross. He then immediately posted a picture of
Speaker 1: Demi Moore's then fifteen year old daughter slut shaming her
Speaker 1: over a shirt. Wow. And then someone was like, also
Speaker 1: a rare tyra with you know, like now you know
Speaker 1: she's not that great either, but good she was in
Speaker 1: the right spot there. I kind of remember the sledge.
Speaker 1: I remember this.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty crazy, but I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: we don't expect anybody to have, you know, I guess
Speaker 2: morals and standards when it comes to this kind of shit.
Speaker 1: Whatever they can get away with. Yeah, I mean, I've
Speaker 1: been in the gossip game for a long time and
Speaker 1: I don't always love it. I didn't love it when
Speaker 1: we were doing with Fashion Police too, mainly because it
Speaker 1: was hacky, not because it was like I'm being so
Speaker 1: mean about their But I do.
Speaker 2: Remember that sometimes we did feel like, oh, I remember
Speaker 2: feeling I remember a couple of times refusing to do
Speaker 2: the person if it was like, especially if it was
Speaker 2: somebody young.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember. I just remember not wanting to
Speaker 1: do it because we were doing a free job and
Speaker 1: I didn't love that. But at the same time, of course,
Speaker 1: the children should be offp limited. Of course, if there
Speaker 1: was some paparazzi hiding the bushes outside of PRES's home
Speaker 1: and they got some photos, of course they shouldn't post those.
Speaker 1: Like I agree with the sentiment. I just think it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like if and when Trump,
Speaker 1: you know, if something happens, if the Trump family put
Speaker 1: out a thing is like please be kind to Trump,
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be. It's gonna be a rough. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's not gonna just be rough. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be not listen to at all, right. And it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting though, because these are some of the other
Speaker 1: comments from literally an hour, like how irrelevant Pres has become,
Speaker 1: and the fact that, like I said, just a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, he was posting like I don't have
Speaker 1: any money. I've lost money now because it was in
Speaker 1: the hospital, and I mean, I don't even know what
Speaker 1: he was talking.
Speaker 2: About about his watch, the thing that happened to him
Speaker 2: with the sepsis. He's saying that he has all these
Speaker 2: medical bills because of that.
Speaker 1: Oh also he's saying it was because it was the
Speaker 1: medical bills because of that yes, and he made a
Speaker 1: good point too. It is really expensive even with insurance.
Speaker 1: I've been there myself, so I understood his point. But
Speaker 1: he's also saying he's lost a lot of followers because
Speaker 1: he found Jesus. So he's basically kind of also just
Speaker 1: blaming his fans, you know, like, oh, people just don't
Speaker 1: want to hear about and it's like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: some people were a little worried about you for a
Speaker 1: little bit, and then everybody kind of just checked out
Speaker 1: and moved on because like we're you.
Speaker 2: Know, I'm just like a really good person, and people
Speaker 2: people don't like that. They're all such bad people that
Speaker 2: they would rather let my content be like really mean
Speaker 2: and slut shaming kids. That's exactly everybody else's fault. I'm
Speaker 2: like amazing, Oh my god, all right, last time, I'm
Speaker 2: going to read of these comments and I think we're done.
Speaker 2: We'll have more as he like I said, as he
Speaker 2: starts healing, Yeah, I hope he does. But someone posted
Speaker 2: he posted pictures of Tallula as you were saying, the
Speaker 2: youngest Willis daughter hugging her father at an angle that
Speaker 2: highlighted her shorts.
Speaker 1: Writing up. He posted that and to me DEMI more
Speaker 1: rightfully called him out for posting it, and he doubled down.
Speaker 1: As you said, so he built his empire off that,
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a trick. It's a tricky one.
Speaker 1: This is a tricky one because we don't want bad things.
Speaker 2: No we don't, but it should just be known, like
Speaker 2: what we're dealing with. And I tell you, I just
Speaker 2: don't believe that, like you could blame all that on
Speaker 2: sepsis because and here's and I did want to say
Speaker 2: this from the beginning, because like, wouldn't we be hearing
Speaker 2: about that all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, people, what he says every fucking day.
Speaker 2: So how come you're not all like acting completely crazy
Speaker 2: and saying, oh, it's sepsis.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I said the exact same thing last
Speaker 1: week to my friend. I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I believe that it can happen in the moment those
Speaker 1: weeks that you're in the hospital, but yeah, like sepsist
Speaker 1: psychosis forever, right, you have to have something something else
Speaker 1: is going on that would I would think as a doctor,
Speaker 1: as a medical professional, that something else is maybe also
Speaker 1: triggering that back.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's but that's the same thing that happened with Amanda Bynes,
Speaker 1: which was so freaking sad. The whole thing watching Amanda
Speaker 1: Bynes fall apart in real time was like really bizarre.
Speaker 1: But it started with her just being really crazy on Twitter. Right,
Speaker 1: We're all like, what the fuck, and she's saying crazy
Speaker 1: things about like sexual assault and saying everybody has sexually
Speaker 1: assaulted her. Like it got weird, and we kind of
Speaker 1: were not on her side, right, we were like, get
Speaker 1: this Twitter out of her hand. Then she started throwing
Speaker 1: things whatever, and then it was clear that she was
Speaker 1: severely mentally ill. Okay, but then the fake came out.
Speaker 1: Our people came out, and she was diagnosed with schizophrenia,
Speaker 1: which is what it seemed to be to me. And
Speaker 1: then because that's just not something that people are cool with,
Speaker 1: they changed it to bipolar, which has never presented itself
Speaker 1: as bipolar ever. Again, by the way, it's not the
Speaker 1: same thing. And I so my point is that people
Speaker 1: will say whatever. So if it's easier for him to
Speaker 1: not say, yeah, I did a little bit of meth
Speaker 1: or I had a psychotic break, right, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: worth like, so he's gonna say, yeah, it was the sepsist.
Speaker 1: I should sue the hospital. I guarantee count to ten.
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna I really believe that's going to say,
Speaker 1: because he's been given the go ahead to say it.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's true. We don't know, but I think
Speaker 1: that's going to be the easy answer because then he
Speaker 1: gets more sympathy. And also we we just you know,
Speaker 1: we judge mental health in a different way, right, so
Speaker 1: if we can say, yeah, it's the hospital, and then
Speaker 1: also he's hard on money, so now he's not going
Speaker 1: to be right. These are just our opinions. We have
Speaker 1: no fucking idea. Yep, yep, just my opinion. We're just talking.
Speaker 1: We're just talking. We're just breaking it down like everybody else.
Speaker 1: We still we care about those kids. Yes, than what
Speaker 1: if the kids started a mini blog. It's even worse.
Speaker 2: It's like pro Epstein, but it's about yeah exactly, like oh,
Speaker 2: like god, there's no winners here, there are no heroes. Sorry, guys,
Speaker 2: all right, we wish that's for him.
Speaker 1: Now.
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