WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:32.359 Oh that m trigger. 2 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:37.560 Warn this podcast may include explicit content that will take 3 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:40.479 you out of your comfort zone and make you question reality. 4 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:42.840 Listener's discretion is advised. 5 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:59.439 Welcome to the Occult Rejects. I got a very exciting 6 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:02.840 episode tonight. We got a Enigma secer coming on with us, 7 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:07.079 Peter aka Enigma Seeker, and he approached me. He wanted 8 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:08.760 to come on and talk about Atlantis because it's a 9 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:10.439 little bit of a different angle than I think that 10 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:11.920 other people have done. 11 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:14.159 On the show, and I'm all about that. 12 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:15.680 That's why we have so many different people on the 13 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:17.920 show at times, because they have different ways of looking 14 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:20.799 at things. So yeah, for sure, and it's going to 15 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:22.959 be an academic kind of angle and I am very 16 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:25.560 much for that. So I'm very interested to hear what 17 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:27.959 he's got to say. But before we introduce him, we'll 18 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:31.640 introduce the other rejects on the show. And Jules started 19 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:32.439 off with you, sir. 20 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:35.920 All right, doing good, doing good? What's going on everybody? 21 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:39.280 I was here last night on the Quote Rejects. I 22 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:42.680 am Jules the Mississippi Mystic, the host of the gray 23 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:46.280 Pill Podcast. Go follow me over on Twitter at gray 24 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:50.959 Pill Pod. Subscribe to my Patreon. Subscribe to my Patreon 25 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:53.280 sign up. We got a lot of tears on there, 26 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:57.799 got a lot of Patreon exclusive content merch that we're 27 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:02.239 currently making, and some sticker past that I have I'll 28 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:03.879 send you and uh yeah, it's a good way to 29 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:06.359 support the show. Be sure to like the stream and 30 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:11.599 share it. Get it out there to uh the internet waves, 31 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:14.879 let everybody see, get some people in here. It's good 32 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:18.120 to be here tonight, though. Very excited to hear what 33 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:20.000 Enigma Seeker has to say. 34 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:22.080 Yeah, thanks for having me. 35 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:23.000 Yeah, man for sure. 36 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:27.719 And shout out to Rebirth who introduced me channel. That's 37 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:31.120 how I learned about you guys. 38 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:31.639 Very nice. 39 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:34.159 Uh yeah, Julis, thank you for making this one. You know, 40 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:35.759 I know you were here last night. I also saw 41 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:36.960 your face this morning for a while. 42 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:38.919 That was a blast. 43 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:41.759 This morning was a fun esotery book review guys, if 44 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:44.360 you haven't checked it out, I don't think it's on 45 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:48.000 X anymore, but it's on Rumble and YouTube for now 46 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:52.120 until probably tomorrow morning. We looked at uh what was 47 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:54.840 it the uh something. 48 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:57.120 About wolves something? 49 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:02.639 At first it was about l old fawns and and fairies, 50 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:06.400 but the book was coded in some old English language. 51 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:12.960 So we went on to reading, uh the ofly Wolf 52 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:19.360 Bitches of Thessaly, brought to you by Manual Labor Subliminal Messenger. 53 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:21.199 Uh, yeah, it was. It was. 54 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:23.960 It was fun to say the least. And uh, we 55 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:27.400 had some pretty good discussions about it. Uh, stay tuned 56 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:31.400 for what was it? Enchanted Wiggers? 57 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:38.400 The next excuse me, the next one? Anyway, what was it? 58 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:40.000 She saves Christmas too? 59 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:43.280 Right, yeah Christmas? 60 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:47.560 Yeah, these guys, but no one knows what we're talking. 61 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:51.960 Don't be there, disappear you gotta be there. 62 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:54.840 But yeah, thank you very much for coming on Jewels again. 63 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:56.800 Like I know, on the weekends, you're very busy man, 64 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:58.080 and you tend to make a lot of the shows 65 00:03:58.080 --> 00:03:58.439 on the weekend. 66 00:03:58.439 --> 00:03:59.120 I appreciate that. 67 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:02.599 Yeah, man, I try r hell Yeah, and Julia, I 68 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:04.719 mean out of old people too, just just popped out 69 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:05.879 a kid still jumping on. 70 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:12.639 Yeah, thank you, thank you, and thanks so much. I 71 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:16.600 always love joining for episodes like this. I love Atlantis, 72 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:20.120 It's one of my favorite topics. But yeah, you know 73 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:23.959 Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. Speaking of bitches, 74 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:30.000 I just released an episode about the Ripper crew cutting bitches, 75 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.279 titties off, fucking the tit hooles. 76 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:35.720 It's crazy. You gotta fucking check it out. It's wild. 77 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:39.879 I'm telling you you guys, this is some next level shit. 78 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:43.680 And again, if you haven't found me already, you never will. 79 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:47.079 Cosmic Peach Podcast, thanks for having me. 80 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:49.000 Nick Cold intro. 81 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.759 It's a true cry podcast people, It's true. 82 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:59.800 This is why you're here. Thank you. Hell yeah, definitely. 83 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:02.560 Uh, you know you know what, Actually, out of everybody 84 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:04.879 here on the show, I've probably known Julia the longest, 85 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:05.680 believe it or not. 86 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:08.040 It's fucking wild. We've been in the podcast. 87 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:12.519 He literally he literally set up the episode where me 88 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:14.680 and my husband worked together for the first time. 89 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:16.240 Yeow. 90 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:22.040 So yeah, she's got to do a couple reject right Yeah, 91 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:22.480 all right. 92 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:25.279 Now finally to the man himself, Peter a enigma seeker. 93 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:26.720 What is going on, sir? 94 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:27.279 How are you? 95 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:30.240 Would you like to introduce yourself and maybe you know, 96 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:31.800 give give a little bit of your credentials or I 97 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:33.120 could just pull it off. I think you have that 98 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:36.680 good ready to go and let maybe there know you 99 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:38.639 know where they can find you. If you have anything 100 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:39.360 you want to promote. 101 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:41.680 Sure, yeah, if you want to bring up the first 102 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:46.040 lie we can, Yeah, I can start for a little intro. Yeah. 103 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:51.040 So my actual academic background is landscape architecture, so that's 104 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:53.720 kind of where I learned about garden history design, and 105 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:57.240 but before that it was really studying international studies, which 106 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:00.120 deals with like geopolitics, and I took some anthropology and 107 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.800 that's where I learned about Graham Hancock and Randall Carson, 108 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:05.800 which I was leaning to them at that time in 109 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:09.399 my bachelor's but in my graduate degree I started shifting 110 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:11.800 away from what they were saying after I dig a 111 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.879 lot deeper research into the topic of Atlantis. But originally 112 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:18.600 I was in airports for a little bit, say Japanese, 113 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:21.079 so I know, actually probably more about Japan I do 114 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:24.879 about Egypt. I am a Catholic, so I do have 115 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:27.360 kind of a biblical worldview, but I'm more of a 116 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:29.279 kind of like an academic ethol in the sense that 117 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:31.800 I don't, you know, I'm not a younger of creationists, 118 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:34.360 or I'm not you know, believing some of the things 119 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:38.480 that some Freemasons believe, which are carryover what some evangelicals 120 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:40.800 used to or believe in, which is more the kind 121 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:44.079 of a literal interpretation of scripture and all that, so 122 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:47.319 I'm a little more liberal on that topic. And I 123 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:51.319 also was a boy scout, so but ufology is probably 124 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:54.800 where I first started when I had my actual wou 125 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.360 woo experience. So I am an eyewitness of the second kind. 126 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:00.639 I have contacted the FBI wan. I have talked to 127 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:06.519 Linda multenhow I have been on a few times when 128 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:10.399 we were helping her out cataloging a phenomenon that the 129 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:15.199 uf is producing, and that was called the Mystery Boom phenomenon, 130 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.480 and so far Luelsandre has not mentioned it. I'm keeping 131 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:20.959 an ear out for that to see if he mentions that, 132 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:24.040 but that might be in the future. We'll see. But 133 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:27.000 something was going on between the years twenty eleven and 134 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:31.319 twenty fourteen that caused media reports all around the country 135 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:33.759 to start popping up local media and reach national at 136 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:36.959 tension once. So that's a whole other topic. But I 137 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:41.560 addressed this on the YouTube channel Suspect Sky Adrian's channel, 138 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:45.639 and he has compilation videos about UFOs and undified strange 139 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.160 noises and other paranormal things. So I've made videos for 140 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:52.040 him a few times. So that's now kind of where 141 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:55.079 I'm shifting. I'm not making as many videos anymore. Back 142 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:56.879 to college, I did, but I'm no longer in college, 143 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:01.319 so I'm working now as a landscape designer and I 144 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:03.519 live in Saint Louis, Missouri. But I did graduate from 145 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:05.360 University of Iowa and Iowa State. 146 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:08.279 Interesting. 147 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:13.199 Yeah, thank you, that's wild you met a Yeah, that's 148 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:15.480 the lady with the commut relationships, right, Yeah. 149 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.040 Yeah, Linda is still kicking. And she actually got a 150 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.319 touched a sample of the act some of those UAP 151 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:24.759 materials that Gary Nolan's mentioned in others. So that's pretty 152 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:32.279 interesting that she got touched that. He's he's the main 153 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:34.919 guy that the Pentagon is using to disclose the whole 154 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:39.320 existence of the supernatural phenomenons. And again lou was not 155 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:41.879 privileged to this until someone went to him. And I 156 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.120 think that's Mike. I think it was Mullen or what's 157 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:49.399 his name, the guy that hates Trump Clapper under the 158 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:53.240 Obama administration, those high officials, they're the ones that kicked 159 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:55.360 all this off. So you can see why they probably 160 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:58.679 didn't want Trump in power at the time. One reason, 161 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:00.960 other geopligal reasons, of course. 162 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:02.799 Lots of reasons. 163 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.639 So what what got you you interested in Atlantis? 164 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:12.440 Well, again, it was more studying anthropology at the University 165 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:15.399 of Iowa, and that's where I ran across Ran Across 166 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:18.000 and Graham Hancock, of course, but also it's just like entertainment. 167 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.799 I mean, there's a there's an anime called Nadia which 168 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:23.919 inspired Disney's Atlantis, which I loved both of those, and 169 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:28.120 I think the Japanese one did it a little bit better. Yeah, yeah, 170 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.120 I like that. Disney didn't go straight to zacharais Sitchen's 171 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:34.440 style and Eric wondan whereas the original anime Nadia that 172 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:38.399 inspired Atlantis, they went they were U guy Nek Studio 173 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:41.000 was inspired by zach Reistitchen and Eric Wondanica. So there 174 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:44.200 was more ancient alien route, whereas Disney did more of 175 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:46.440 the spiritual route, which is what Graham Hancock was linking to. 176 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:48.960 So I think the directors and writers they were listening 177 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:51.360 to people at Graham Hancock and Zacharizichen and comparing and 178 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:57.120 how they're going to write their story. 179 00:09:57.320 --> 00:09:59.159 What's your thoughts on Zacharisichien. 180 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.000 I'm not an ancient alien believer, and I can kind 181 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.840 of explain that more at the end of the slides. No, 182 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:08.799 maybe I used to be, but after experiencing this phenomenon 183 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:12.440 firsthand multiple times as a witness of the second kind, Yeah, 184 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:14.960 this shit's not aliens. Wish it was, but you know, 185 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:17.360 whish it was sexy alien girls. But now I don't 186 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:26.080 think so. 187 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:23.879 Are So I think you and I might be in 188 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:26.840 agreeance on that. I mean, I think people are seeing something. 189 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:30.879 I think there's obviously some phenomenon going on. I don't 190 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:36.279 necessarily think it's fucking et, but they are seeing something. 191 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:38.200 You know, they're seeing fack and. 192 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:41.200 Sun copacadd Yeah, yeah, there's there's something going on, which 193 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:46.200 David Grush is correct to say. There are biologics, but 194 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:49.440 there's a reason why they're avoiding the specific term of 195 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:53.679 extraterrestrials in the in the DLD document, if you read it, 196 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.320 they're avoiding that. But there is one clue that David 197 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:01.120 Grush alluded to, and that's the phrase intert meal. So 198 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:02.759 as a Catholic, when I hear. 199 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:04.480 That, that's what I'm. 200 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:07.960 I think angels or demons or jins or what Japanese 201 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:12.600 would call yokai or kami. So something a lot deeper 202 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:16.039 than just you know, aliens in space ships. Do you 203 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.600 not think that these. 204 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.000 Spiritual beings could take on these physical forms though, or 205 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:26.320 maybe inhabit something of like some kind of biological form. 206 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:30.559 Yeah, that's what Catholics and muslim believe for over two 207 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:33.000 thousand years, and the Egyptians I believe that. So, yes, 208 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:38.080 they physically can take avatar forms, but in limited time 209 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:41.000 and space. So they're basically the gods of ancient pazz. 210 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:44.639 But they're not all powerful. They do have limitations because ultimately, 211 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.799 as the Tamaism Plato explains, there is a cosmic god 212 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:52.879 that keeps order over the lesser gods or the word 213 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:55.600 gods and angels and demons are basically the same thing. 214 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:59.240 They're just a semantically different thing based off cultural terminologies. 215 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:02.159 Like the word angel means messenger but also can refer 216 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:05.120 to watchers, but they're more like militaristic terms, like you know, 217 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:07.639 a literal messenger from the military goes out and sends 218 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:11.559 a message. They're using militaristic language in their theology, and 219 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:13.799 that's how the ancient world worked because there was no 220 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:15.919 separation of church and state in ancient times. 221 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:21.240 I'm already on board yes to everything. 222 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:25.159 Hermis was considered the messenger of Zeus that he carried 223 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:27.960 the caduces Well, the caduceis was based off of this 224 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:33.120 rod that the messengers who observed battlefields would carry so 225 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.080 that people would kill them. So they had this big 226 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.799 rod with these white streamers off of the thing, and 227 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:41.639 so he was the angel of the god Zeus as 228 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:44.720 well as these messengers on the battlefield being the angels 229 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.360 of that king, whoever it is commanding the armies. 230 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:51.600 Yeah, and Hermis is believed. Some scholars argue that I 231 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:54.600 think maybe the former doctor michaels Heiser would argue that 232 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:59.200 Hermis or the archangel Michael derived from the inspiration of 233 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:02.600 Hermi's motifs and from Hermes. The Greek since got that 234 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:07.320 inspiration from Anubis. So it does go back to the 235 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:12.120 land of Atlantis, is what I argue. Atlantis. 236 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:15.200 Most people would connect Hermes with Thoth, but that's the first. 237 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:15.600 Time I've heard. 238 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:21.039 Yeah again, I wouldn't get too attached to these place 239 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:23.720 these names on so called angels, because real angels, we 240 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:25.960 have no idea what the hell their names are, right, 241 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:30.039 we give these titles like Gabriel or no so Rafayel 242 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:32.960 for example, it just means the healing angel or it's 243 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:36.559 a title phrase. It's not meant to be like literally 244 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:41.759 his name is Rafayel. No, there's many iterations of that. 245 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:44.559 That's why not magic. He's known for being a healing 246 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:46.120 angel because what you just said. 247 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:49.240 Yeah, so when you invoke, like if Catholics invoke that, 248 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.440 some caps might take it literal like he's literally named that. 249 00:13:51.559 --> 00:13:55.200 But it doesn't really matter that whatever interdimensional beings around you, 250 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:57.440 they might heal you from you know, I don't know, 251 00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:00.519 kidney stones or something, if you have real severe if 252 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:04.200 depending on your spiritual state, they could intervene. I think 253 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:07.080 Madam Blovotsky and other occultists believe that that, yes, you 254 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:10.519 can summon angels through psionics is when now what they're 255 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:12.799 calling it, But it's basically prayer meditation. 256 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:19.200 Ug all right, so uh we can go next time. 257 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:23.440 Su Oh, that's right, I'm controlling it my beads. 258 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:24.440 There we go. 259 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:28.720 So I guess getting I had a falling away from 260 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:31.279 you know, Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock, mainly because you know, 261 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:34.840 as I studied at McBride Hall at the University of 262 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:36.759 Iowa was on the upper left hand that building. That's 263 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:38.360 why I first heard about their names. I'm like, oh, 264 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:42.240 my professor actually mentioned them, so that was interesting. So 265 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:44.279 after he mentioned them, I dug deep and I started 266 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:46.639 to kind of fall for it, and I started to 267 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:50.279 believe that maybe Atlantis is basically North and South America. 268 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:53.919 But then I realized, uh, that's a mistake, because it 269 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:58.720 was basically Christopher Columbus assuming that maybe that's Atlantis. And 270 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:00.559 he's one of the first to promote this idea. So 271 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:04.000 that's why he named the first islands the Antilles or Antilias, 272 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:09.360 and from there, since Columbus set that precedent, others like 273 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:12.799 father Charles Brazio de Borgia. I can't say he's a 274 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:15.639 French dude, but he's the first one that really fall 275 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:18.279 in love with the Mayan culture. He was a Catholic 276 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.840 priest and archaeologist and he did a lot of work 277 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:24.320 on Mayan history and really trying to analyze that. I 278 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:26.159 think Dan de d Dunker has mentioned him in one 279 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.759 of his videos and details, so I do applaud him 280 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:33.519 for that. But from there, you know, he influenced Ignatious 281 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:36.159 Donnelly and Ignatia. Donald was politically motivated more so, and 282 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:39.519 he went to put his nationalist place attachment of Atlantis 283 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.519 in the Americas, or at least maybe in the Central Atlantic, 284 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:47.879 because there was a basic misconception between Atlantic Ocean and 285 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:51.639 Atlantic Sea. So that's where the confusion's coming about. People 286 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:54.960 thinking it's literally in the Atlantic Ocean. But that's not 287 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:58.200 the Greek's perspective at the time of you know, Solon, 288 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:01.919 or the time of even Plato in some sense, So 289 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:05.279 there's some misconceptions on. You know, Graham and Random are 290 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:07.879 kind of using Atlantis as more of a concept to 291 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:11.919 represent a lost civilization befour hours before the Ice Age. 292 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:15.759 And that's fine. And I told Graham once on Facebook, 293 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:18.399 you know, it would be good to not use the 294 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:23.399 name Atlantis in his in his documentary Ancient Apocalypse, and 295 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:27.320 he actually did surprisingly avoid using that name because I 296 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:30.200 think he understands now that Okay, historically, when you look 297 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:33.159 into the deeper rings of Plato, it's pretty clear it 298 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:37.559 has nothing to really do with the Americas or but 299 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:40.759 you know, so now it's people have broadened the term 300 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:44.600 Atlantis just means something something well lostation past. And no 301 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:47.360 thanks to Hollywood too. It's really Hollywood that brainwashed a 302 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:48.120 lot of people. 303 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:49.720 To give you a little bit of pushback though we 304 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.879 can't forget about Francis Bacon's book The New Atlantis, which 305 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.039 really did inspire a lot of Founding fathers and how 306 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.960 they wanted to form the country. And you know, yes, 307 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:02.000 because that's a big pillers, right. 308 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:05.720 Yeah, because that's why there's an well the Freemasons, Yeah, 309 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:08.039 when they when the early Freemasons came to America, so 310 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:11.480 they really thought that the Americas was that continent that 311 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:14.799 Plato was speaking about. But there is simply some translation 312 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:19.400 errors at that early period before Benjamin Jowad updated that. 313 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:23.079 But even Benjamin Jowad, the British translator, got some basic 314 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:26.200 things wrong. But the night, I'd say ninety five percent 315 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:28.759 or more is correct. But there's a few things like 316 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:31.519 is it nine thousand or is it nine hundred? Or 317 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:33.839 do you divided by the three seasons that's match in 318 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:35.720 the Middle East? Or is it by the lunar calendar? 319 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:38.559 So there's some confusion on the translations. And more likely 320 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:40.720 I'm gonna have to blame US Catholics for that because 321 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:42.680 of probably a bunch of monks in Italy or France 322 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:46.079 that messed up some translations that ended up eventually getting 323 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:49.000 to England. So over time people thought when when the 324 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:52.000 Romans named or when the Romans emphasized that the streitcherche 325 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:54.240 of Bulture is this and this new pillars of Hercules, 326 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:57.480 everyone assumed it was outside that. But when you actually 327 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:02.240 read Tomatoes and Criteias, it's saying it's subdued inside the pillars. 328 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:05.920 But in the Critaeus they're denoting a different pillars than 329 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:09.880 in Timaeus. So there's two pillar locations. And that's according 330 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:13.400 to George sarn Titi's and I think it's Johanna James 331 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:17.680 who promoted Jack Kelly's documentary Atlanti's Puzzle, and George Santizi's 332 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:20.519 was actually one of my researchers, and he is correct 333 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:23.880 to realize that Atlantis does have something to do with 334 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:27.359 literally North Africa. So credit to Jimmy from Bright Inside 335 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:30.680 for figuring that out as well. Atlantis is definitely associated 336 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:34.319 to the continent of North Africa, but not just Africa. 337 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.640 Basically anything that's the Middle East and North Africa to 338 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:42.279 the Greeks was Atlantis the continent. But the island is 339 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:45.319 something specific. Again, it might be a translation there too. 340 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:48.039 Is it island or is it oasis? How do we 341 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:51.359 translate that from Greek to French to Italian whatever in English. 342 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:55.039 So there might be some mistakes along there on how 343 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:58.480 Plato is emphasizing the idea of an island. Is he 344 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:01.000 saying island in a poetic sense, or is he's saying 345 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:04.039 it actually is like an oasis because Egypt is surrounded 346 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:05.720 by sand, a sea of sand. 347 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:11.599 Well, there's also the esoteric angle of Tomais and Critius, 348 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:13.880 which seems to get a lot more attention from the 349 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:18.680 academics then the actual cosage. There could be one, you know, 350 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:19.319 in reality. 351 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:23.960 So if you're that, yeah, go ahead, yeah, you're correct. 352 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:25.920 I was going to show you something. Wait do you 353 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:28.519 see that link down there? Oh, go back? Can you 354 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:34.200 click on that and he can open that And I 355 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:36.920 think it was Father Charles that he kind of presents 356 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:40.440 some esoteric ideas. Yeah, and click on that map fourteen 357 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:44.440 eighty that. Yeah, so this is the map that may 358 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:46.119 click it again. Oh, I don't know if you can 359 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:50.240 zoom in. But in this map, this is what basically 360 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:54.319 Randall Carls and Graham Hancock are basing Atlantis on. Because originally, 361 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:56.920 you know, back in the old days when they wrote maps, 362 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:00.400 maps were more of an artistic thing. It wasn't exactly 363 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:03.160 detailed detail because they just simply didn't know how to 364 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:06.440 draw the exact shapes of islands and everything. But they're 365 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:09.920 pretty close, you know, maybe fifty percent sixty percent, pretty accurate. 366 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:14.839 But they put the Antilles or Atlantius in these Eye 367 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:17.440 was near the Azores, and they thought that was associated 368 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:20.559 with Atlantis because at this time in the fourteenth century, 369 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:24.240 some some thought that it was outside the pillars, but 370 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:28.240 George Sorountisi is saying, no, it's more likely inside the pillars. 371 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:31.279 And then there's another map that kind of shows why 372 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:34.319 that would be. But that's that's an interesting map, I thoughts. 373 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:36.559 But everything Graham Hancock ran across and believe in is 374 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:39.160 based off this kind of this old map that is 375 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:41.880 just saying that it has something to do with the Azores. 376 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.640 But that's a misconception because people were still discovering new land. 377 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:48.720 They just simply didn't know the translations because there was 378 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:52.039 no map by Erodus. The map we see, even Heradus 379 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:54.559 is just made up in the eighteen hundreds. It's not 380 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:55.480 he made up. 381 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.920 Also, Hercules is a character in Greek mythology that represents 382 00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:05.240 their ability to expand and go outside of these areas 383 00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:07.079 that were known to them before. So the Pillars of 384 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:10.839 Hercules keep getting pushed back the more they discover in 385 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:12.880 Western Europe, and a lot of people don't realize that 386 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:14.680 at the time of Plato that was a very different 387 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:17.440 place called the Pillars of Hercules than they are today. 388 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:21.519 Yeah, and there's multiple pillars of Hercules locations, according to 389 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:24.319 what George Santitis found, and he said, it's another reference 390 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:27.920 to the aege and c. So if you go back, 391 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:29.519 I maybe there's another map I think I have. 392 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:32.319 I don't. 393 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:36.960 Let's see if you can go back, you go back 394 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:41.680 to slides. I think the links on there. But this 395 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:42.759 is an interesting map. 396 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:46.400 I thought, oh yeah, yeah, I just went in a 397 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:47.359 book and make it larger. 398 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:50.640 Uh. I know the original map. I think it's at 399 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:52.759 the University of Minnesota. But yeah, this is a in 400 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.480 a I think it's in a book. Yeah, okay, but 401 00:21:56.519 --> 00:21:59.640 there's Yeah, it's an old photographer. Now this is the 402 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:04.480 right of that what's his name father? The French priests 403 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:07.519 of archaeologist that went to Mexico. So he's the one 404 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:11.359 that started to think that Atlantis was Central America basically, 405 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:14.720 and he thought that there was a connection with the Bible, 406 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:17.799 and he's correct, but he started to think, you know, 407 00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:20.119 and there won food as the discovering new land, and 408 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:22.240 they're discovering the minds and looking at these pyramids are like, 409 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:24.599 oh my gosh, you know, that's amazing. So he fell 410 00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:26.480 in love with that culture at the time and learning 411 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:29.359 all about it, and he wanted to place it in 412 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:31.759 Central America or have something to do with Central America. 413 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:35.599 But in reality, that's when the Freemasons started to realize, Okay, 414 00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:39.119 maybe this is not correct. So Freemasons started to really 415 00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:41.680 honor Egypt more, which is why a lot of their 416 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:46.519 temples are Egyptian style, because they realized in geopolitical philosophy 417 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:51.079 or terms, that Egypt is the first true nation state 418 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:54.839 and that's because of the typology it has that forced 419 00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:57.799 it to be cohesive compared to other regions like Babylon 420 00:22:58.279 --> 00:23:01.160 or in China, it took a long time to consolidate power, 421 00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:04.519 but Egypt was considered the first true nation state, and 422 00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:09.720 that is why the Freemasons honored Egypt so much, because 423 00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:12.920 Egypt was kind of like a symbol of America, like 424 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:19.240 a new Atlantis. You know, that's that's where azation. 425 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:24.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so uh yeah. 426 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:25.000 But I mean I can't read that as French, but 427 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:27.680 there are some translations. But this is an original scan 428 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:31.160 copy of his book that explains. But he started this, 429 00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:34.079 this priest really, you know he wasn't. I mean, I 430 00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:37.200 don't think the Catholic Church really supported it, but he 431 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:40.400 his work. At the time, they accepted it because you know, 432 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:43.039 they're still discovering the new world. To them, it was 433 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:45.960 all new and it was naturally. The logic was, well, 434 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:49.400 this is a new lost world, this is Atlantis, because 435 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:52.039 they were correlating to this idea that is Atlantis loss. 436 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:55.359 But when you actually read played, a majority of Tamatoscrtaias 437 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:59.960 is not about Atlantis. Atlantis is simply the foundation example 438 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:04.279 used for a broader cosmological understanding of the universe to 439 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:08.160 fit to a geopolitical allegory. That's where it gets a 440 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:09.279 little confusing. 441 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:14.079 Right, He's talking more about the ideal state, and there's 442 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:17.160 this angle that keeps popping up is the city state 443 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:19.920 versus the nation state, and those were. 444 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:23.400 The Greeks hadn't really yeah, because the Greeks didn't really 445 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.039 have a nation state. They had city states. But when 446 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:28.880 they went to Egypt, there was The first nation state 447 00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:31.759 they encountered was Egypt, so then they were starting to 448 00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:35.279 question about the whole idea of geopolitics and how you 449 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:38.279 form a state. What's the best way? Did Egyptians have 450 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:40.240 the best way? But the Egyptians tend to be more 451 00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:44.960 authoritarian because they're forced to buy agriculture, whereas in Greece 452 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.039 it's a more sporadicallyperse agriculture between mountains and valleys, and 453 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:52.000 it wasn't as unified, so it took more time for 454 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:55.559 warfare to unify that region by force. But in Egypt 455 00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:57.880 was there wasn't as much warfare as like you see 456 00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:01.519 maybe in Babylon, because Babylon didn't have have a fertile plane, 457 00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:04.720 as Plato describes, there's a fertile plane. And he said 458 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:07.279 on either side of this plain there were mountains. But 459 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:10.000 the translation again from mountains may be partially wrong, but 460 00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:13.599 he says they're not very high, so he's implying that 461 00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.279 you could see across this plane. But then he says 462 00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:19.359 there's rivers through the plane. So I'm like, okay. So 463 00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:23.200 old Brickter of Straubenheind Germany is arguing another researcher. He's saying, well, 464 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:27.200 maybe that's referring to a river, valley or a delta, 465 00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:29.559 and that's where he kind of correlate. He didn't say 466 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.079 Egypt pacifically, but he was trying to leave it open 467 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:34.839 to Okay, okay, it must be referring to some kind 468 00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:37.240 of natural typology of a river, and there's only a 469 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:39.519 few civilizations in the Middle East that could that could 470 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:43.079 be so, But people everybody thinks, you know, Pilowspercoles is 471 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:45.680 a stretches of Volta, and it's correct Plato was inferring that. 472 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:49.519 But in the Timaeis or Creteus, they're referring to two 473 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:53.079 different types of pillars, the Aegean Sea and then the Mediterranean. 474 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:55.960 So the priest's decie is saying that you Greeks are 475 00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:59.200 from the little Sea and we're from the big Sea. Okay, 476 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:01.640 they're trying to like, you know, they were the older 477 00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:06.200 civilization and you're learning about your lost history from us. 478 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:08.559 So that's why the Greeks are going to the Egyptians 479 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:12.319 to learn about their lost history or so on's potential. 480 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:13.880 We don't know if someone went to Egypt. It's not 481 00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:15.799 enough records, but more likely he did, it wouldn't have 482 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.799 been that hard for him to travel over. But imagine 483 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:20.319 if you're a Greek, you know, at the time of 484 00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:22.559 seven hundred BC, and you land in Egypt for the 485 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:25.240 first time, seeing mego withic structures and temples, you would 486 00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:27.559 be shocked. It would be an Atlantean kind of world. 487 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:31.480 So it's sparks stories and all the trade issues and 488 00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:34.000 economics and politics and then and. 489 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.559 All the major Greek thinkers had to go to Egypt 490 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:42.359 to be inducted into their mysteries. And Herodotus even writes 491 00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:44.759 about this place. We know where it is today, but 492 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:47.440 they're just not willing to excavate it. It's actually in 493 00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:51.160 a place that they it's like two football fields underground, 494 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:55.240 and so this underground mystery school that was talked about 495 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:59.440 in Herodotus was found, but they're just not excavating it. So, 496 00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:02.240 you know, makes me wonder about Atlantis and all the 497 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:05.599 rest of this stuff, about what's actually being kept from 498 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:09.200 us and what's actually being let out. But I understand it. 499 00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:12.240 It's because there's a dam nearby and the entire place 500 00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:15.480 is flooded, so all of this underground chamber that they 501 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.319 had is now completely you know, flooded. It's a giant 502 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:20.680 sewer system and they don't want to have to mess 503 00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:24.319 around with all this hydrology from the dam to actually excavate. 504 00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:27.599 So it's frustrating the Oswan dam. 505 00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:29.039 Yeah, it's close to it. 506 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.880 Yeah, Yeah, they have moved to some of the temples, 507 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:33.400 but it's it does make me wonder if there were 508 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:38.599 a few temples they left underwater intentionally. Is possible, but yeah, 509 00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:41.240 I mean literally in modern days, we turned Egypt into 510 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:43.400 Atlantis by flooding that part of the region. But the 511 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:47.240 majority of the actual Atlantis, the island, was the Delta, 512 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.960 Like that was the geopolically most important locations to the Persians, 513 00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:53.880 to the Greeks, because that's where they got their their beer, 514 00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.920 their bread, and it's shipped up by the Phoenicians into 515 00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:01.920 into Greece and into the Artessian region of Spain and Italy. 516 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:04.319 We go back to the slides. I can kind of 517 00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:05.039 explain more. 518 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:13.319 I have a quick question for you. Sure, are you 519 00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:17.640 familiar with Gary Wayne at all? Like the Genesis sixth guy. 520 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.920 Are you familiar with him? 521 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.240 Is that the paper by. 522 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:27.920 The CIA called Eden No, he's like he talks a 523 00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:30.359 lot about what Jules you know who I'm talking about. 524 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.079 Yeah, I keep having a couple people kind of pressure 525 00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:36.160 me to get him on. I need to hit him up. 526 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:37.720 Yeah, he's really cool. 527 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.880 But he talks a lot about Atlantis, and one of 528 00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:44.279 his theories is like Atlantis was like this huge city 529 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:47.200 and places like Egypt and. 530 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.960 Like the worldwide civilization. Right, maybe the capital that the 531 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.799 island may have been the capitol or the place where 532 00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.799 you know, they that's partially convened because there were twelve 533 00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:02.200 families I think rumored to have control of these civilizations 534 00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:04.759 and the head of it being at Less, right, this 535 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:06.039 god at Less. 536 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.640 And then like, yeah, those places are like they're like 537 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:14.440 satellite cities to Atlantis. 538 00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:15.759 They're like little breakaway. 539 00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:19.559 I'm glad you're here because you said it more, you 540 00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:21.799 said it better than I did. But yeah, that's basically 541 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:24.519 the theory. And I think, I mean, it could have legs, 542 00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:24.839 you know. 543 00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.519 Yeah, I think if you make the claim too big, 544 00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:33.640 it becomes unrealistic to actual archaeological records. So that's where 545 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:35.599 maybe he might have too much of a New Age 546 00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:39.319 perspective and he makes the story bigger than it really is. 547 00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.160 And that's what that priest did, and you know it 548 00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.559 was ignacious, Dolly, and that Priest and eventually Graham Hackl Randam. 549 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.039 They're just they're making the story so much bigger than 550 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.039 it really is. In reality, it all goes back to 551 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.200 the origins of geopolitics and the origins of agriculture and history. 552 00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.559 It doesn't have anything to do with the new world 553 00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:03.440 of Central America or South America. So I wouldn't broaden 554 00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:06.160 it that much because we would have abundance amounts of 555 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.119 evidence of that. If you're making such a massive claim. 556 00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:10.119 I don't know who this guy is, but someone like 557 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.200 you know exact right Citi, aera front Tech, and they 558 00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:14.200 make these stories so much bigger than it really is. 559 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.039 And I think that's that's called the historians fallacy, where 560 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:21.240 we're trying to paint our globalistic worldview to this law civilization, 561 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.839 but in reality, you know, we would we would have 562 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.440 found that evidence by now and wouldn't be you know, 563 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:29.839 spear points and a few arrowheads. It would be very clear, 564 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:35.119 you know, steel swords, petrified in stone, or foundation stones 565 00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.880 or granite slabs, because you know, if you go to 566 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.079 corporate buildings today, a lot of them have lots of 567 00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.720 slate of granite everywhere for their buildings and their fancy 568 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.759 lawyer offices, and you would find that stuff. It would 569 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.880 be buried over time, and when it's buried, he's actually 570 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:51.680 preserved compared. 571 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:55.480 To how much we agree and disagree at the exact 572 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:57.920 same time. So I'm fully on board with the idea 573 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.160 that there could be this Egyptian Atlantis idea, right, I 574 00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:03.759 think that's that's definitely a possibility. But at the same time, 575 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.440 I look at all of the Ogum texts and all 576 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.440 the rest of these Dolmans in North America and these 577 00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:13.000 other things, and I'm like, well, this kind of seems 578 00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.720 a little bit Atlantis too. I think there's probably a 579 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.359 lot of different, uh you know, combinations or recombinations of 580 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:22.200 how people went back and forth across the Atlantic that 581 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.880 maybe didn't get recorded and didn't have much to do 582 00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:26.160 with Tomais and Critias. 583 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:31.400 That's where you're stretching the story away from the primary source, 584 00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:34.839 which is Plato in his topas Critias and the Republic. See, 585 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.359 we can't take Atlantis out of the context of the 586 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.799 work of the Republic, which is completely about which civilization 587 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:47.640 the Persians and which civilization built round cities the Persians. 588 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:49.720 They have two of them. You can see them from 589 00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:53.359 satellite view. One's called de rabagird On, one's called Gore. 590 00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:57.480 So is there a possible conflation that Plato is taking 591 00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:01.319 Persian motifs and infusing that with Egyptian wise and possibly 592 00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:04.680 hit type, because he's just basically saying anything that's not 593 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:09.319 Europa is Atlantis. So that's why the Atlas Mountains are 594 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:14.119 named Atlantis. That's why Atlantia sometimes is referred to the 595 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:18.359 Romans as Ethiopia. So Jimmy is right to put it 596 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:22.079 back in Africa. But we want to make the story bigger. Now. 597 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.880 There might be other civilizations that are lost, but they 598 00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.920 have nothing to really do with Plato's Atlantis. Like you know, 599 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.759 go Beckley. Tepe is very close, you know, to Greece 600 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.720 in some sense, but Plato had no idea of that civilization. 601 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.200 He didn't care about that. What he cared about is 602 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:41.680 the brown people conquering the white people because the hit 603 00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:44.599 Types and the Assyrians and the Egyptians were the big 604 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.359 empires of the time and they were starting to expand 605 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.880 up into Greece. So this was the proto Hellenes. Would 606 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.640 have been the Mysonians and actually the Mycenians probably would 607 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:57.279 have been darker. Skinned a little bit more tan Mediterranean 608 00:32:57.640 --> 00:32:59.960 at that time because the Mycenians mixed with the Manol. 609 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.119 The Minoan's definitely traded with the Egyptians. And there's one 610 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.400 Uh well, I kind of follow my slides here here, Well, 611 00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:09.680 actually you can go to the next slide, so I 612 00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:13.400 can get a burying where I'm at. So yeah, So 613 00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:17.400 basically it's just makes logical sense to ask the question. 614 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.359 You know, if Plato says that Atlantis stretches from Libya 615 00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:25.400 to Asia, and he says it's it's bigger than that, 616 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:29.799 he's referring to this vast continent, and that vast continent 617 00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:33.799 has to be Africa and Asia or pecifically the Middle East, 618 00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:39.440 because he's talking about a war he's emphasizing. And in Freemasonry, 619 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:41.440 there's a lot of kind of you know, understanding of 620 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:46.119 the kind of the political worldview but also spiritual mixed 621 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.440 and so the Freemasons and the Vatican and the Persians, 622 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.160 in the ancient Greeks, they all honored Egypt because Egypt 623 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.359 came first before anyone else when it comes to the 624 00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.240 first true nation state. So you know, like you know, 625 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.480 Harrieus Truman was a thirty third degree Freemason. I believe 626 00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.920 you was, and you know he probably understood that it 627 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.079 has something to do with Egypt, and that's why you 628 00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:10.320 have an obelisk in the center of Washington, d C. 629 00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.599 And why a lot of Freemason temples are inspired by 630 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:17.639 Egyptian architecture because they were the first architects. They were 631 00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:20.719 the first nation state, the political entity that unified first 632 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.519 before Babylon. It wasn't until Sargon of a Cod came 633 00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:28.960 and forced unification and developed the Acadian civilization. So when 634 00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.480 people say, oh, the garden to bed and super, no, 635 00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:34.519 that super was no paradise. It was a hellhole ten 636 00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.320 degrees hotter on average in Egypt, not a Mediterranean climate. 637 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:41.679 There's no black soil to create enough fertility for ag culture, 638 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.639 and there's no monumental architecture at the level of Egypt. 639 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.599 So it's so stupid that Evan Jeb was kind of 640 00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:51.360 latched onto that. But that's just a misconception because over time, 641 00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.679 when they first discovered and learned about the Muslim world, 642 00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.519 you know, they're confusing some of the Muslim writings with 643 00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:59.039 the Biblical texts, and they'd have all the Biblical texts, 644 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:02.360 so they start thinking well, you know, maybe it's literally 645 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:05.400 Babylon over here, but over time place names changed. There 646 00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:09.400 was a place called Babylon Fortress in Cairo, but also 647 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:13.599 Babylon in Iraq. And there's the Gihon River was sometimes 648 00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.280 associated with the Nile. But then there's Land of kush 649 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.039 Can be Ethiopia, but also in Iran. So it gets 650 00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.519 confusing because these place names are being recycled over and over. 651 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.519 That's why it's confusable. Well, one thing we know for sure, 652 00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:27.440 it's not Easter Island, as Dandy Dunker might art you 653 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.320 has nothing to do with that because Plaosas elephants. 654 00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:36.199 Well, there was a species of elephant that went extinct 655 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.400 with the end of the Carthaginian Empire that was in 656 00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:42.400 North Africa. So they have all one there. Yeah, yeah, 657 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.320 a smaller version. That's what they took across the Alps. 658 00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.000 And they got those from Africa. There's a small speed 659 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.840 scent not small, yeah, relatively small to the main elephants 660 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:56.039 in Sub Sahara, Africa. But there was a North African 661 00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.360 elephant and the Egyptians basically killed them all for use 662 00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.000 them in warfare or made for labor as well. So 663 00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:03.320 that's not other question but they were a hindrance to 664 00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.079 their agriculture, so Egyptians basically wipe them out, and then 665 00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:09.159 the Romans eventually too, but they used them for eventually 666 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.360 into circuses and things like that and for display. But yeah, 667 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.679 they were They got up to I think islands near 668 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:18.719 Greece or Crete and spread up into Rome. So there 669 00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.239 were these elephants. So when Playo speaks about that, they 670 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.639 did exist at the time in that region. They got 671 00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:25.440 them through trade from Egypt. 672 00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:34.199 So they're fucking elephant killers. That saddens me. Iphants stopping crops, 673 00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:36.320 but they're so cute. 674 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:42.119 Listen, are you saying Egypt could be Atlantis? Like that's 675 00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:46.000 the misconception is like they read they came up with 676 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:49.039 this name Atlantis, but really they were describing Egypt. 677 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:51.000 Is that like the takeaway here? 678 00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:56.199 That's what when when some of the dialogues in Way 679 00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:59.360 to Speak, they say, oh, you Socrates always make up 680 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.159 stories of Egypt. There's some phrase like that, because that's 681 00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:03.000 exactly a Plato. 682 00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:03.320 Dude. 683 00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:06.760 Plato is taking socrates ideas and making up a story 684 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.960 about Egypt. He's basically using Egypt as an allegory but 685 00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:15.599 putting a good spin on it. Against the other Atlanteans. 686 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.159 And there's another Atlanteans that everyone forgets, and it's associated 687 00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:24.239 to the war, and it's not the Egyptians, it's the Hittites, 688 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:29.360 Turkey Anatolia. So again that's why I say Plato says 689 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:32.519 across the sea, so across the Greek world, either through 690 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.480 the gen c or all the way down to Egypt 691 00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:39.119 and Palestine, that region was another world to them, completely 692 00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:42.639 different typologies. That was the Atlantean old world. So when 693 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.960 Plato speaks about the khaliplist in the Republic, he's speaking 694 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:48.400 about the future new world of the Greek world and 695 00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:53.480 using democracy, well semi democracy, but they allow women to vote, 696 00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.480 but they're debating about whether it keep that monarchic system 697 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.079 or democracy, and there's a divide. And when Plato's writing 698 00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:05.159 the story, he's keeping in context of the Persian wars. 699 00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:10.239 So to the to Plato, Persia is the neo Atlanteans. 700 00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:13.239 Hence why there's round cities. So there actually are one 701 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.760 mile diameter long palace round cities that are completely wiped 702 00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:19.960 out over time by Alexander the Great and other wars. 703 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.719 And he's associated with the Persian world order and Egypt 704 00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:25.400 is a part of that, but he wants to put 705 00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:27.639 a good spin sort of on Egypt because they want 706 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:30.880 to make an alliance of Egypt against the Persians. And 707 00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:34.119 he's talking about older warters, saying, hey, we can beat 708 00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.039 back the Persians because we did it before, and the 709 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:38.639 Egyptian said, we did it before, and that old war 710 00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:42.519 was with the Hittites. Now we can. I'll show you 711 00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:43.880 my sources on that. We can go to the next 712 00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:45.719 slide and I can explain where I get that from. 713 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:53.239 Did you watch Black Panther Part two? No, by any chance, 714 00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:55.719 I was just gonna say, they put a lot of 715 00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:58.119 shit in the Marvel movies. Obviously a lot of people 716 00:38:58.199 --> 00:38:59.039 know about that, but. 717 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:00.880 They seemed like. 718 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:05.679 And also like Aqua Man right with Atlantis, like it 719 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.239 still exists and it's all sunk in and shit, so 720 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:11.360 you don't believe any of that stuff, Like it's somewhere 721 00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:14.480 so fucking as. 722 00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.440 Each of us have ruins underwater. And now maybe they 723 00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:21.199 don't go back to the time of the actual date 724 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.159 of the Santuri eruption, which is one thousand, six hundred BC, 725 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.679 And if you take away the nine thousand and use 726 00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:29.519 the nine hundred date, which is what these authors are 727 00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:33.440 all arguing, and so these researchers are basically saying, it 728 00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:36.440 doesn't make logical sense if they say that proto Athenians existed, 729 00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.159 who could that be? It must be the Myceneans and 730 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.000 they And once in the nineteen fifties we learned about 731 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.119 the Santorini eruption, we realized that the Centerini eruption was 732 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:48.119 a big, major event. It was not just your normal 733 00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.360 volcano eruption. It was actually a super massive volcano going 734 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:56.199 boom with two thousand mega tons Castle Bravos fifty ton 735 00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:03.800 fifty megatons. So John g and Jaquin Griffiths and Ryan's Carpenter, 736 00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:07.559 they're all saying it has to do with Santorini. But 737 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:11.719 what's confusing is they thought this associated Atlantis is the Minoans. No, 738 00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:15.440 and Plato is clear that it's across the Atlantic Sea, 739 00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:20.280 and the original Atlantic Sea, or to George Santigis and others, 740 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:24.280 is the Mediterranean. It's not the Atlantic Ocean because you 741 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:27.159 got to rotate that map. And the way the Greeks 742 00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:29.440 are look at the world as they're saying, across the sea, 743 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:33.159 there's this paradise island filled with elephants and Plato says 744 00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:36.599 it doesn't rain, and there's monumental architecture and all that. 745 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:41.960 So he's using Egypt as that island within the larger continent. 746 00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.159 Everybody forgets about the ten thousand. So in four oh 747 00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:50.039 one BC you have this group of ten thousand mercenaries 748 00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:53.119 who were hired by a Persian prince to go invade 749 00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:55.880 the land of Summer, and this is where they find 750 00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:59.440 out about all of these really ancient structures that they 751 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:02.840 didn't know existed. So there was a whole civilization over 752 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:05.639 to the east of them that they had just discovered. 753 00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.719 This is one of the reasons that you know Alexander 754 00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:10.639 the Great went as far east as he did. It 755 00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:12.400 is because he was reading the stories of the ten 756 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:15.480 thousand and he wanted to find out what was actually 757 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:17.719 happening in the ancient world, because this was far more 758 00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:20.320 ancient than what they had, So a lot of that 759 00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.920 stuff really did later on. 760 00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:27.199 Yeah, it ultimately related to the Persians, because the Persians 761 00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:31.639 are the real Aryans, the original neo Atlanteans. I guess 762 00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:33.840 in some sense that some of these authors would argue, 763 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.280 but like the main author, Jayquin Griffiths, he's looking at 764 00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:42.239 the actual descriptive details in Tamaus and Critaeus, and he's 765 00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:46.199 realizing there are certain descriptives like he noticed that I 766 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:49.880 misspoke a little bit on Mike and Dave's podcast, but 767 00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:52.920 it was actually Jaquen Griffiths that argue that Plato's leaving 768 00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:57.480 some things out. He's not mentioned certain things like the coconut, 769 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.760 so there's no coconut, but he does mentioned that there 770 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.800 are like palm trees, and there's legoomes and cereals and 771 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:10.679 certain other he says there's allotments of agriculture, flat plane elongated. 772 00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:13.760 So all these other descriptives seem to be alluding to Egypt, 773 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:17.719 especially when he says it doesn't rain in Atlantis, only 774 00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.920 in the winter times. So that clearly puts it back 775 00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:24.159 to North Africa because people think that, oh, it never 776 00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:26.719 rains in Egypt. No, it does rain in Egypt. So 777 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:30.039 that's where you know Ran Across or Graham Hancock and 778 00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:32.119 Robert Viola might be gaining things wrong because they say, oh, 779 00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.360 there's no rain on the Sphinx. Now it's rain. Egypt 780 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:37.280 just had a flood back in like twenty twenty or 781 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.000 twenty twenty three, I think it was. It was like 782 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:41.880 three inches of rain in like one hour, so they 783 00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:46.679 do get erosion. So there's clear evidence of Mediterranean medicanes 784 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:48.360 coming in once in a while. I mean there's one 785 00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:50.440 that killed twenty thousand people like three years ago that 786 00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.800 it was in Libya. That's because of a flash flood. 787 00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:56.360 So it does rain in Egypt, just not as often, 788 00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.400 mostly in the wintertime. So Plato says that detail, and 789 00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:01.679 he knows he says that details like, Okay, this has 790 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:05.039 to do with something to do with North Africa, because 791 00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:08.960 he says, this island of Atlantis faces the sea. So 792 00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.840 Plato's trying to describe a delta. It's literally facing the sea, 793 00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.559 and there's a shoal of mud. There was liqual fact 794 00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:19.719 he can say, were legal faction be saying Atlantis was sinking. 795 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.840 So if there's a massive earthquake caused by a supermassive 796 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:27.199 volcano or tsunami, a combination of multiple things, then yeah, 797 00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:30.440 the delta would sink and there'll be mud in the way. 798 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:34.239 And we see very ruin underwater in Egypt. 799 00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.920 Right, and you could even see again back to Alexander 800 00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:41.400 the Great, where did he make his city is right 801 00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:44.480 at the end of the Egyptian delta. You know, he's 802 00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:48.320 thinking about the same sort of Atlantis type idea. That's 803 00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:50.360 why he's picking that area. And he's the one who 804 00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:53.920 surveyed it and created the outlook or the outlay for 805 00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:57.400 the city before it was even built, so there was 806 00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:58.360 a lot of influence. 807 00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.880 That's the confusion I feel it to the next slide. 808 00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:05.559 The confusion is between three scales. Plato gives us one scale, 809 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:09.480 the continent. The second scale is the island in a continent, 810 00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:11.840 which is a little weird, and then he says the 811 00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:16.920 city state. The question is is he conflating the Persian cities, 812 00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:20.320 assuming they're just as old as Egypt, with Egypt, because 813 00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:22.639 sometimes they believe that Egypt was like kind of like 814 00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:24.840 the Persians, they were a big empire, and maybe the 815 00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.039 Egyptians kind of lied and said, oh, yeah, we were 816 00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:29.920 a big empire. We conquered those Hittites and those persons. 817 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.360 They could have been lying because there's a legend of 818 00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:35.440 Cisus Stress and cis Strices was a pharaoh to believe 819 00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:38.639 that conquered Anatolia, because if you look at you know, 820 00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.679 hit height architecture and styles, it's clearly influenced by Egypt. 821 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.079 The styles and the rulership system is modeled off of 822 00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:48.760 Egypt and their influences that because they were trading and 823 00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:53.320 eventually they were even exchanging, you know, princes and princesses 824 00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:56.280 and having treaties, and eventually they had war, the Battle 825 00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.719 of Cadesh. So to the Greeks, yeah, they're conflating a 826 00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:02.480 few the regions in the Middle East with round states. 827 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:05.559 But it's possible there was a round lost city state 828 00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:09.000 in Egypt because the Egyptian hieroglyphic city is a circle 829 00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.559 with an X, so it's possible Egypt may have once 830 00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.960 had a round city at the capitol of Heliopolis, but 831 00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:20.039 it's been so recycled over and over. You know, with 832 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.039 Cairo modern day Caro being built on top, it would 833 00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:25.199 be almost impossible to find it because you got a 834 00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:28.239 whole city on top of it, because Egypt's been so recycled, 835 00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:31.440 because the density of the region is so dense, and 836 00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:34.800 that's why we call it this garden paradise, the original 837 00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.599 Garden of Eden. So Plato's Atlantis is basically one and 838 00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:40.840 the same with the story of the Garden of Eden. 839 00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:45.679 He's probably reading Eugarytic texts or something and he's putting 840 00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:47.960 his own spin on it for political reasons. 841 00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.039 Right, And that Yugoretic text was the unification of Hittite 842 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.519 culture and Egyptian culture because they were right there on 843 00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:56.960 that borderline, and they took all of those elements from 844 00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.320 both into their mythology and into their architecture the rest 845 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.360 of that stuff as well, and they played a huge 846 00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:05.000 role in the formation of the Canaanite Phoenicians later on. 847 00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.440 So you know, you've got all of these different influences 848 00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:12.760 creating this milieu, and especially in Egypt. It was recycled 849 00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.440 by the Greeks later on because they were obsessed with Egypt. 850 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:18.000 That's one of the reasons why Alexander went down there, 851 00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.800 and why is generals occupied that place is the Ptolemy's 852 00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:22.639 for hundreds of years after. 853 00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:26.840 So they needed the wheat is the main thing they needed. 854 00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:29.760 You know, if you've got the origins of agriculture established 855 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.360 in Egypt, you know, Greece didn't produce as much agriculture 856 00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:36.519 until their empire expanded. But yeah, that's where like the 857 00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.400 Persians conquered Egypt because they wanted their agriculture because that 858 00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:41.679 was literally a guard in paradise. So when Plato spent 859 00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.960 emphasized about in the Tomatos this this lush you know, 860 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.760 paradise and these allotments and they're ruled by twelve kingdoms, 861 00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:50.519 which is a reference most likely to the no marks 862 00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.960 of Egypt where you have a governorship, which is why 863 00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:54.960 the Freemasons kind of hottered Egypt, because you have like 864 00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.039 there's the governor regions and then there's one president, one 865 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.800 farah that rules them all in are not allowed to 866 00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.760 war with each other. It was actually it was when 867 00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:07.840 they became too avarice in their power and they wanted 868 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.000 to expand. So this is where maybe Plato or Solon 869 00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:14.920 and is conflating the hit Tites with the Egyptians because 870 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:16.960 they're basically say, oh they're one and the same, and 871 00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:19.880 they're not really, but they were influenced by Egypt, sure, 872 00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:24.840 But that's where the point is. You know, they're conflating 873 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:27.400 that because of the Persians, because the Persians did occupy 874 00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:31.280 of Egypt and the Hittites, so they're saying that there 875 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.119 was an older Atlantic kingdom before the Persians, and that's 876 00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:39.320 a reference more likely to the Trojan Wars. That's the 877 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.000 war that it was inferring upon in. 878 00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:45.280 Homer prior to the Bronze Age collapse. The Bronze Age 879 00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:48.079 collapse wiped out the memory of the ancient world, and 880 00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:50.280 that's what they were constantly trying to get back. Is 881 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.480 that memory before the Bronze Age collapse. 882 00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:55.320 Yeah, there was a Yeah, there was a lapse of 883 00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:58.320 time and Greek civilization, though not much was really going on. 884 00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:02.199 It was slow progression until they recovered after the Santorini eruption. 885 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.599 So one thousand, six hundred BC boom, the war stops. 886 00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:08.760 So basically, Plato's implying that both sides were destroyed in 887 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:11.760 this war. The Greeks and the hit Tips and the 888 00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:13.760 Egyptians are telling it the story as a sort of 889 00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:17.400 an outside perspective, although in the next paragraph, this is 890 00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.719 where it's confusing, because Plato's saying first the island of Atlantis, 891 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:22.400 and then he jumps to talking about the war. So 892 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.519 people would think, oh, well, it was the people from 893 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:27.199 the island that are the ones causing the war. No, 894 00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.079 that's not actually what the Tomato critics is saying. It's 895 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:33.480 just there's a paragraph change, and you just talking about 896 00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.480 a different region now. So Plato's scaling out now, and 897 00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.519 that's the problem because you know, back in those days 898 00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:41.360 they have a good sense of location and bearing. So 899 00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:44.400 if Platos first starts at this large scale continent, then 900 00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:47.360 the island, then the city state, and conflating that the 901 00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:51.119 war with maybe being Egypt too, because the Egyptians might 902 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.400 want to take credits saying yeah, those hit tights, they 903 00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:56.480 were part of our civilization, because that goes back to 904 00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:57.800 legend of Cis Striss. 905 00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.239 In a way, it's so important for people to remember 906 00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:04.119 the esoteric nature of this. He's combining a bunch of 907 00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.079 locations and a bunch of different data to paint a 908 00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:10.840 picture of what he's trying to get across as the 909 00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:13.159 political message behind the piece that he's writing. 910 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:17.920 Yeah, and there's more likely it's the biblical stories, well 911 00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:20.599 not you know modern day Bibles, but the actual scrolls 912 00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:24.320 of ancient times from the Hebrews, from the Zoroastrians and 913 00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:27.719 the Babylonians, you know, in the Hindus as well, simply 914 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:31.519 in Pakistan Indos Valley when they talk with dark Kali age, 915 00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:35.000 it is a reference of actual event that happened. Because 916 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.960 people think this super mass volcano, oh, it's just that 917 00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.519 local region, but no, it would have a climactic effect 918 00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.559 over the whole planet, just as the Mount Tambora had 919 00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:46.360 effect like in eighteen hundreds. It would cause more rain 920 00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:50.320 events on rivers more, you know, it might make things 921 00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:53.280 cooler for about one or two years. Temperature could drop 922 00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:55.920 at culture starts to die off in Europe, so people 923 00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:58.400 start floating down and that's where you get the Indo Arians. 924 00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.480 They start moving south. Something happened in the Indos Valley 925 00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:05.119 that forced the migration from the Oxas civilization down into India, 926 00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:07.880 and that's where you get the so called reference to 927 00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:11.440 Indo Ariyans. But it's really the Oxas civilization that gave 928 00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:15.559 birth to the Iranians and eventually moved down into the 929 00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:18.519 vegan cultures to established that. Now Indians, you know, they 930 00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.400 obviously are a little nationalistics, so they have debates about that. 931 00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:23.840 They don't like the idea that it was the Oxs 932 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.639 civilization came down. But the record archaeological record shows that Mollhendro, 933 00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.639 Dharo and other cities in Pakistan they just kind of 934 00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.000 collapsed right around year one thousand, seven hundred to one thousand, 935 00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:36.960 six hundred PC. And that happens to be around the 936 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:41.360 Centerini eruption, so something may have caused a climactic shift 937 00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:43.960 that shifts the geoputical chessboard. 938 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.320 It also hit the Mesopotamian region really hard too. This 939 00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:50.960 is you know, a major. 940 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:52.679 Right. 941 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:53.159 Yeah. 942 00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:55.239 So that's where the Biblical stories come in. So people 943 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:57.599 think the flood story is separate from the Garden of Edenstorp. 944 00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:02.000 In reality, they're the same. They're just separated by different 945 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:05.719 scribes or trying to maybe make it more simplistic, to 946 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:09.039 make it more alogorical or more details. So it wasn't 947 00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:12.840 until the Akkadian periods that these records start coming out 948 00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:16.679 and it shows from the airdu story we can actually 949 00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:21.079 date the actual artifacts and we can launch we say, well, 950 00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.880 if that tablet is actually dated to around one thousand, 951 00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.400 six hundred PC, they might have wrote that story, you 952 00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.159 know a few fifty years or maybe twenty years after 953 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:35.599 the event. Same thing with the Mahama. All these stories 954 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:39.360 were written after the centurious event. There's we can carbon 955 00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:41.639 date all this stuff and they're all dating after that. 956 00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:44.639 They're not dating older. But people think that the Bible 957 00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:48.480 story the genesis, oh that's two thousand BC the flood happened. No, 958 00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:52.400 the oldest evidence that dates to these tablets are no 959 00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:55.480 older than one thousand, six hundred BC, and the maximum 960 00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:57.519 date for the century in eruption is one thousand and 961 00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:01.800 seven hundred BC. So some I think something happened in 962 00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:04.920 the Mediterranean region because the Priests of Science is saying 963 00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:07.960 the destruction happened in the homeland of the Greeks. You 964 00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:11.440 Greeks were destroyed and you lost your history basically, but 965 00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:15.280 the Nile we recovered faster, and naturally the most powerful 966 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.679 civilization at the time would recover faster and would not 967 00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:21.039 be destroyed. So the logic that, oh, and advance civilization 968 00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:25.000 would get destroyed and be completely wiped out is illogical 969 00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:28.239 because it would be harder to erode a civilization that 970 00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:30.880 loses more shit compared to a small civilization. 971 00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:36.199 Right, And they had the food, they had the floods, 972 00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:38.599 They had the food, and that was the most important 973 00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:41.679 part in building back whatever civilization they had. So I 974 00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:44.920 mean that was the bread basket of all of the Mediterranean. 975 00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:49.119 Kate ignored as this powerful force in that civilization as 976 00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:51.599 well as a powerful spiritual force in all these different 977 00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:52.320 regions as well. 978 00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:56.400 Yeah, and I think there's definitely a connection, as these 979 00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:59.159 other authors, I showed. They all say that there must 980 00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:02.119 be some connection to the biblical record. So Plato is 981 00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:06.400 basically taking these Mesopotamian stories in Egyptian stories, because Egypt 982 00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.280 has records of a massive rainy evet called it in 983 00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:12.880 the Tempestila, and they dated that to around one thousand, 984 00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.119 five hundred and fifty BC, so pretty close to the date. 985 00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:18.760 And when you actually take the translation of the nine 986 00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:22.440 hundred year hypothesis, it puts that to around one thousand, 987 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:24.840 five hundred and fifty BC. Now give or take a 988 00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:27.039 margin of air of maybe fifty to one hundred years. 989 00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:29.519 So I'm open to the possibility that there are some 990 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:31.679 carbon dates that are slightly off by may fifty to 991 00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:34.519 one hundred years, because we do have like the Dixon 992 00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:37.000 relic in the Pyramid that is dated to three thousand 993 00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:39.639 over three thousand BC. Now, they said, well, maybe that's 994 00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:42.920 very old wood possibility, but I highly doubt they probably 995 00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:44.800 took the wood for a branch more likely which the 996 00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:46.679 branch will be younger than the center corp of a tree. 997 00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:51.639 Or Yeah, so it's possible there are margin of errors. 998 00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:54.400 I'm not ruining that I can't jump to what random 999 00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:57.960 cars and Graham Hancocks say, because we need the swords. Okay, 1000 00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:01.280 we have dinosaur bones, where are the swords? Okay, we 1001 00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:04.719 got stuff that's very old and preserved. We should have 1002 00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:09.280 petrified artifacts of something roy old, but there's nothing. Well, yeah, 1003 00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:11.119 I see that we have found that's very. 1004 00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:14.840 That could go to a lot of chandlers. That could 1005 00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:16.559 go back to a lot of chandelers. So if you 1006 00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:21.000 look at the channeling of the sleeping profit what's his name, 1007 00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:25.119 I keep forgetting his name, Caser. Yeah, when he talks 1008 00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:30.639 about Atlantis, he's talking about a different type of technology altogether, 1009 00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:33.400 sort of like a crystal and technology not necessarily more 1010 00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:38.480 advanced in terms of, uh, you know, weapons and armor 1011 00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:40.239 and all the rest of this stuff. He's thinking more 1012 00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:44.039 of like crystallography or some kind of resonant technology. And 1013 00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:48.760 we see in all of these doms different structures, right right, 1014 00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:53.239 You see these different type of spiritual focuses on megalithic 1015 00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:56.800 sites as opposed to having you know, the best swords 1016 00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:59.280 and the best weapons, and you know, it's it's more 1017 00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:02.480 of a shift away from that, more towards the interior 1018 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:04.199 world as opposed to the exterior world. 1019 00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.679 But again, Edgar Casey is being influenced by the old 1020 00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.400 occultic age in the eighteen hundreds, you know, or even 1021 00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:14.239 before that, by that one priest and ignacious Donnelly and 1022 00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:18.800 their their worldview was so fixated on the Americas, and 1023 00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:21.960 Edgar Casey's making the story bigger really is. It's more 1024 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.760 of a spiritual allegory for him. And I think he 1025 00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:29.440 even mentioned like flying cars. I don't think Atlantis had that. No, again, 1026 00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:32.239 that's the concept idea of Atlantis, and that's because you know, 1027 00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:35.119 I think the occult was in eighteen hundreds really wanted 1028 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:38.280 to make Atlantis bigger than it really was because they're 1029 00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:40.320 trying to make some sense sense of the world at 1030 00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:44.719 the time, because she was still being born sort of, 1031 00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:47.320 he was. 1032 00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:50.480 He was actually saying that they were not as advanced 1033 00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:52.760 as all the rest of the more flowery authors have 1034 00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:54.719 put it. He just said that they had a different 1035 00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:58.280 way of achieving some similar things without having all of 1036 00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:01.719 these flying cars. Yeah, because. 1037 00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:08.360 Like chariots that sort of yeah mentioned chariots. Yeah, he 1038 00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:13.519 Plato mentions chariots, you know, he mentions, yeah, horses, of course. 1039 00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:17.760 He mentions. A big clue is he uses atlantisposes the 1040 00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:21.280 most ferocious animal in the land. Okay, well, what could 1041 00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:25.400 that be the hippo, the lion. More likely, the lion 1042 00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:26.960 is what he's referring to, but he says it kind 1043 00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:30.960 of a poetic way. He's trying to basically describe Africa 1044 00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:34.159 to the Greek world that's never visited Africa for the 1045 00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:36.440 first time. They've never seen a lion in their life. 1046 00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:40.559 So it's as he's kind of talking. Imagine him talking 1047 00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:44.119 in you know, an amphitheater stage, and he's kind of 1048 00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:47.920 exaggerating what Socrates is saying. You know, he Socrates poses 1049 00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:52.480 crazy stories about uh Egypt's Middle East from Haradus and others. 1050 00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:56.159 There is a Middle Eastern lion. There's a Mediterranean lion 1051 00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:58.239 that used to live back in that time period that's 1052 00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.159 now completely as well. So it's the same situation as 1053 00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:04.159 the elephants, Like there are these animals that they're talking about, 1054 00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:05.519 but we don't. 1055 00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:09.559 Barbary I think it was called Yeah, yeah, so that existed, 1056 00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:13.239 possibly even at the time of the Greeks. But yeah, 1057 00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:16.159 it's more likely. But the majority of those animals that 1058 00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:21.000 Plato's describing, he's referencing to what the writings of Radus 1059 00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:23.400 is giving to him. So more than likely. It's logical. 1060 00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:26.199 We don't know plato Us Horadus, but it's logical he 1061 00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:29.360 was probably reading Homer. He was probably reading Socrates and 1062 00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:33.679 Solon and Haradus and others, so that's where he's getting 1063 00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:37.159 his information from. And it's possibly Plato even visited Egypt. 1064 00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:39.920 Some schowers say he even visited Egypt, so if he did, 1065 00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:41.760 he probably was like, woh, I gotta tell a story. 1066 00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:45.320 And also there's a Heliki Heliki earthquake that happened in Greece, 1067 00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:47.239 was a small earthquake but killed a lot of people, 1068 00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:49.519 might kill people he knew, so that may have triggered 1069 00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:53.000 also his story or reminded him of an older story 1070 00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:58.960 that Solon was speaking of and Socrates. But again we 1071 00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:03.000 refer to Edgar Casey's idea of Atlantis. I think he's 1072 00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:05.000 still making it bigger than it really is. And I 1073 00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:08.480 don't think it has anything to do with a global 1074 00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:12.480 civilization whatsoever. Now global at the time of the Egyptians 1075 00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:14.519 perspective like, yeah, we are the center of the world, 1076 00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:16.360 and even to this day they're sort of like the 1077 00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.360 center of the world in terms of chance. 1078 00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:23.000 I just I just take it as a spiritual Lesson, Like, 1079 00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:26.119 he's not necessarily giving us the actual facts, but he's 1080 00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:29.760 sort of spiritualizing what he sees as this vision of 1081 00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:31.920 Atlantis and all the rest of the stuff as well. 1082 00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:35.519 So it's far more spiritual than it is actual factual. 1083 00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:35.239 But. 1084 00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:42.039 Political because he's using cosmological termogy. Case at the end, 1085 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.920 it's about politics, it's about rulership. How do you set 1086 00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:48.559 up a kingdom a nation state? And the Greeks are 1087 00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:50.760 trying to learn from the Egyptians, so he's using the 1088 00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:53.599 Old World as an example. The old World to them 1089 00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:54.960 was the Middle East. 1090 00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:00.599 Well in America was the mound builders, and so you 1091 00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:02.840 have that influence with Casey as well. 1092 00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:06.800 Yeah, again, I think Casey was more influenced by us 1093 00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:10.639 what's his name, Ignatius Donnelly. And I think again, you 1094 00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:13.800 can't let your nationalism or place attachment of your culture 1095 00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:17.079 where you're living now dictate actual writings of the perspective 1096 00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:19.679 of played on Solon. Because they were just concerned about 1097 00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:21.880 the Persians, Okay, the big band persons out to get them, 1098 00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:24.039 and they wanted to blame the Persians and the Hittites, 1099 00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:29.519 and that's that's that's it's always politics, that's influencing stories. 1100 00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.199 Even in the biblical stories, people think, oh, I believe 1101 00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:35.639 living peacefulleen the guarden. But reality, if you think about it, 1102 00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:39.440 it's just it's a smaller allegory, simplistic creation story to 1103 00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:43.320 describe a larger event, and that's elaborated in the Exodus. 1104 00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:49.119 So the Exodus is just the elaborated version of Genesis. 1105 00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:53.840 They're not separated by time and space necessarily, So the 1106 00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:58.199 so called character of Moses, a character of Noah may 1107 00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:01.639 have been living at the same time. Whoever they symbolized. 1108 01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:06.159 They were probably Egyptians more likely. That's but it's so 1109 01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:09.800 fragmented because all this stuff was consolidated under King David's 1110 01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:12.400 and Solomon, and they're trying to figure out who the 1111 01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:15.159 hell all these characters are, and there's different translations, and 1112 01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:17.159 you know, they didn't have Google scholar to figure it out, 1113 01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:19.800 so they just started amalgamating it all together and smushing 1114 01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:22.559 it and thinking that these characters were literal or they 1115 01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:25.360 tried to piece a new creation story to fit their 1116 01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:30.239 new national identity in the Palestinian Israel region because they 1117 01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:33.519 wanted to break away from Egypt, because remember Egypt controlled 1118 01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:36.280 Palestine and Hittite and the Hittites did too for a 1119 01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:39.719 very long time, and the people living there were always 1120 01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:43.480 kind of had animosity against the Egyptians and the Hittites 1121 01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:45.239 because those were the two big superpowers. 1122 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:54.000 Well, the hit you I, certainly had a lot of 1123 01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:58.480 animosity towards the Egyptians. They in fact inverted the Egyptian 1124 01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:01.079 pantheon just to get back at the for being, you know, 1125 01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:04.119 sort of slave or servant to them for so long. 1126 01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:10.039 So they had a real inversion to Egyptian theology, which 1127 01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:11.920 I think plays out again and again in the Bible. 1128 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:13.079 Yeah. 1129 01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:17.400 Well, it's ironic because the origins of basically Mathiism probably 1130 01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:21.679 started in Egypt, and then it eventually it morphed over 1131 01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:26.599 time from influence, evolving into Astrianism and eventually the Hebrew gods. 1132 01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:30.079 But again they're more tribalistic in at the time, it's like, 1133 01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:32.199 you know, this is our God. Our God's better than 1134 01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:35.559 your god. In reality, there is a source, and you 1135 01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:39.400 have to find where's Atlantis, where's the ritual guard of Eden? 1136 01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:42.920 And if you look at the topological and geographic and 1137 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:47.320 geoplutical origins and archaeological record, Egypt's the elephant in the room. 1138 01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:53.079 It's not Sumer it's not Easter Island, it's not meso America. 1139 01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:54.920 At three about Florida. 1140 01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:01.360 In Florida, Hey, man, I mean, what if you know, 1141 01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:04.840 there's one time where the whole the whole world was 1142 01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:07.880 one continent, and what if it's separated, you know that 1143 01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:11.159 it fits perfectly into that gap right there in in 1144 01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:12.039 the Mediterranean. 1145 01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:12.840 That's all I'm saying. 1146 01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:14.760 I'm par Florida on that. 1147 01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:20.280 I don't think Plato was thinking that big. He was 1148 01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:23.079 concerned about the damn Persians because they want to blame 1149 01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:25.079 everything on the Persians, even though in reality it might 1150 01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:27.480 have been the Myceneans that started the hit tight Trojan Wars. 1151 01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:31.079 But you know it's the victory. You know, it's written 1152 01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.280 by the by the victors. I guess I can go 1153 01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:39.239 to the next slide. Yeah, well, in the U S 1154 01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:44.599 no question. No, I don't know, man, Ireland a bunch 1155 01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:44.960 of b s. 1156 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:46.400 I don't know, man. 1157 01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:49.000 See, I think there's there's stuff that you know. I mean, 1158 01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.559 I think we're not told one hundred percent the truth 1159 01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:54.920 of everything, you know, So there's some things we kind 1160 01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:56.880 of have to come to our own conclusions about. 1161 01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:00.679 And uh, but it's not really hidden it's like, you know, 1162 01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:02.599 people say, well, why did I learn about this in 1163 01:03:03.159 --> 01:03:05.559 high school? Because high school is supposed to be a 1164 01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:07.480 prison where they keep kids off the streets, so they 1165 01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:09.960 learn some basic back and shit. Okay, you don't learn 1166 01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:13.119 real history until you get into college. So in college 1167 01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:15.760 is where I learned about these researchers. I have more 1168 01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:21.159 researchers in essays, and now I learned that Egypt literally 1169 01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:24.679 has ruins underwater, okay, And there's no other civilization has 1170 01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:27.320 ruins like this underwater. And sure there are only day 1171 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:29.760 to May four hundred BC, some could be older to 1172 01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:32.559 one four hundred BC. But I bet there's a lot 1173 01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:35.360 more on the east coast of the Delta, probably a 1174 01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:39.079 couple hundred yards out into sea underwater, maybe under thirty 1175 01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:40.599 or forty feet of water. I bet there's a lot 1176 01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:43.199 more ruins, and a lot more under Cairo. But there's 1177 01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:46.280 a big city in the way. But Egypt, it's the 1178 01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:50.719 only civilization that built a giant, massive pyramids, you know, 1179 01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:53.400 And there's nothing on the planet. There's nothing else. We 1180 01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:57.320 was founded by now by LDAR scans or whatever satellite scans, 1181 01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:00.840 and there's nothing, Okay, Bosnian pyramid, no that's not a pyramid. 1182 01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:05.679 So just to give you my Herododus reference real quick, 1183 01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:10.119 so if you could add my thing to the stage, 1184 01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:12.440 I'll love pictures back up in a second. So this 1185 01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:17.760 is from the recent discovery in the Mahata expedition in 1186 01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:20.400 two thousand and eight. They use ground penetrating radar at 1187 01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:24.119 the Hawara Pyramid abound evidence of a massive underground structure 1188 01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:27.760 talked about in Herodidas that he says underground there's three 1189 01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:31.400 thousand rooms, and so they've they found it and they're 1190 01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:34.159 not doing anything to excavate it. So in terms of 1191 01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:37.719 like you know, cults in the origin of these things, 1192 01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:40.840 I think that's that's one of the most important sort 1193 01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:41.480 of factors. 1194 01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:45.159 But again you need to question if the translation for 1195 01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:48.239 the word three thousand is correct because again it's in English, 1196 01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:50.840 and how many times has it been translated. It could 1197 01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:53.760 have been maybe thirty rooms, it could have been three hundred. 1198 01:04:54.079 --> 01:04:56.320 So you have to dig a lot deeper to that 1199 01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.199 specific story and find out the source. Like even the 1200 01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:03.320 legend of like Tartessls. Everyone thinks tortosos to Spain. No, 1201 01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:08.079 it's Italy, Okay, the original Tartessians. When you read details 1202 01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:11.599 into that from horazz and others. You realize there are 1203 01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:14.920 motifs and details that seem to point more to Italy, 1204 01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:17.760 because the Greeks first landed in Italy before they ever 1205 01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:21.760 landed in Spain. But over time the nationalists in Spain 1206 01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:25.159 adopted the story and placed it in tartetls because there 1207 01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:26.800 was a reference to the Pillars of Parcoles. It was 1208 01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:30.079 the stretcher chippol Tebo's inside that. But they assumed it 1209 01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:32.599 had to be Spain because a bunch of nationalists in 1210 01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:35.760 Spain wanted it to be Spain. Same thing with Nazi Germany. 1211 01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:38.719 They wanted Atlantis to be, you know, associated with white people. 1212 01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:41.960 Even though Plato literally says there are elephants and it 1213 01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:45.480 doesn't rain only in the wintertime. And when he says winter, 1214 01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:48.039 you know, it's like people could go winter it must 1215 01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:52.760 be snow. No. So there's you gotta look at these 1216 01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:55.239 other details and realize that Plato is giving us all 1217 01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:59.199 these clues. He says the phrases like cereals and legomes. 1218 01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:02.280 He says the island faces the sea, but the word 1219 01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:05.760 island could be a translation for oasis, and then he 1220 01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:08.400 says it lives under the light of the sun, which 1221 01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:10.199 is a po way of saying it's in the desert, 1222 01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:14.519 and he says there's horses, ferocious animals. He uses the 1223 01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:19.400 phrase Atlantic Polagae, not Atlantic ocean. So there's different phrases 1224 01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:23.119 for water types in Greek. An original one was Atlantic 1225 01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:27.639 Polagae or Atlantic Pelagos, and that's because there's two references 1226 01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:30.440 of sea, so that's where that confusion comes about. He 1227 01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:33.119 also references that there are twelve kings but one sovereign. 1228 01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:36.840 That's kind of like how Egypt's monarchic system was established. 1229 01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:39.840 There are main nodes of Egypt, no marks, they call them. 1230 01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:43.760 He also references the gods, and we know that Poseidon 1231 01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:47.559 has always been associated with the Atlantean world, not the 1232 01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:51.360 Greek world. The Greek world is the Hellenes to Athena, 1233 01:06:52.079 --> 01:06:55.679 not related to Poseidon. Poseidon, they say went down to 1234 01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:58.280 the land of Ethiopia and had a party or something 1235 01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:02.079 or sometimes for that Lantia in the Roman translations, so 1236 01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:03.599 that's to the Africa. 1237 01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:07.920 Well, the Minoans also had interactions with Poseidon as well, 1238 01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:11.519 who gave them the white bull that ended up that 1239 01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:14.199 ends up becoming the father of the Minotaur. 1240 01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:18.199 And where do bulls come from. There were no bulls 1241 01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:22.440 in Europe in the Ice Age, right, so the origins 1242 01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:25.519 of the WS is a is a European I'm sorry, 1243 01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:29.000 it is an African bull or a or not Caucasian, 1244 01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:31.360 but in the Caucaus regions in Iran as well. So 1245 01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:35.440 we can figure out the migration of bulls and feel like, 1246 01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:37.800 where did the bull cult come from? It came from 1247 01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:40.079 the Middle East, because that's where the migration of bulls 1248 01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:42.679 went up to. Once the Ice Age retreated, they went 1249 01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:46.480 up that way. But majority of the bull domestication happened 1250 01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:49.000 in the Middle East. Same with horses. Horses first were 1251 01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:52.760 domesticated by the Indo Ariyans in Ukraine. But when then 1252 01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:55.199 they went down to across the Black Sea into Italy, 1253 01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:59.280 I was confused Anatolia Turkey, and then it was the 1254 01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:02.679 hit Ties that really domesticated and they sold them to Egypt, 1255 01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:04.840 and then Egypt became real power once they had horses. 1256 01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:09.239 So horses are a major influence on the development of 1257 01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:11.719 an advanced civilization. Alcohol horse, you would not be an 1258 01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:14.360 advanced civilization. And that's why Native Americans were not able 1259 01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:18.199 to fully consolidate power fracture because they couldn't move fast enough. 1260 01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:23.279 And also there's too much lamb. So geography really dictates 1261 01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:26.399 how civilization is baked and bubbled up and mixed. 1262 01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:31.640 You looked at the way horses migrated, Yeah, there are 1263 01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:32.199 two types. 1264 01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:35.359 Well, mainly the brown horse that came down to Turkey. 1265 01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:38.479 They started, Well I thought there was some that actually 1266 01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:40.079 started in South America. 1267 01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:44.560 Yeah, and yeah, the ice age ones, but they're extinct. 1268 01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:48.960 So these are the we can were the genes of 1269 01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:51.000 modern day horses and figure out where they come from. 1270 01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:55.720 I'm just saying, yeah, I mean, I think that's a 1271 01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:57.680 stretch because you're gonna go to go in the ice Age. 1272 01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:02.000 But Plato is saying it doesn't rain, so he's referring 1273 01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:06.399 to a desert region. And again you gotta put in Plato's. 1274 01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:12.479 Perspective, maybe you're not getting much rain. It's all snow. Okay. 1275 01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:14.960 This is where semantics are playing. 1276 01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:18.279 Semantics to prove that maybe. 1277 01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:23.159 Maybe Plato was a sadistic fuck and he made all 1278 01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:26.039 this ship up, like the fucking cities of Gold and 1279 01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:28.239 ship to make people want to go on a wild 1280 01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:31.680 goose chase for this ship that never existed, just the thought. 1281 01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:34.600 But I don't necessarily know if he didn't make all 1282 01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:37.039 this ship up or like just jam a bunch of 1283 01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:40.239 like random facts together from different places he had seen 1284 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:43.600 and was like, there's this mystical place and it's called Atlantis. 1285 01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:48.119 Is like, fuck you why because you so I don't know. 1286 01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:51.039 I just you know, sometimes I struggle with this stuff. 1287 01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:53.560 Is it really even real? 1288 01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:54.520 I feel you? 1289 01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:57.720 For example, he says there's monumental architecture, and there's three 1290 01:09:57.840 --> 01:10:00.560 main types of stone used in that. There's red, white, 1291 01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:04.079 and black. Okay, what did egyptpad? It had black diarite, 1292 01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:08.640 white limestone, white albaster, red granite, so I mean, and 1293 01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:11.680 then he says, you know there was a major war. 1294 01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:14.000 We know what he's getting that. He's probably getting that 1295 01:10:14.039 --> 01:10:16.680 from Homer, the Trojan War because that was a big 1296 01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:19.239 deal to the Greeks because of the hit tights. So 1297 01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:22.119 he's kind of he's definitely getting motifs from the Middle 1298 01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:24.520 East because he says phrases like, you know, there was 1299 01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:27.159 rivers and there's lots of canals and these canals branch 1300 01:10:27.239 --> 01:10:30.880 off rivers. Well that's what agipad. But then he says 1301 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:34.399 there are lofty mountains. Okay, Well, now he's expanding the 1302 01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:37.319 scale because he's saying, he's talking about the continent, so 1303 01:10:37.439 --> 01:10:41.760 he's probably referring to the Atlas mountain range. So that 1304 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.359 was part of Atlantis. So Jimmy's right to associate with 1305 01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:48.720 North Africa. It's just it's not the islands Hea. Okay, 1306 01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:52.119 there's no there's no obelisk and pillars or whatever. There's 1307 01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:55.840 no monumental architecture on the foundation stone foundation bedrock of 1308 01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:58.840 the islands, a hera of the rick Cat structure. So 1309 01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:03.399 that's way. Yeah, the context of where Haradus traveled, So 1310 01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:07.960 wherever Haradus went, that's what Plato's referring to. And he 1311 01:11:08.079 --> 01:11:11.560 didn't go down that far south. Now, the Nava Hanna, 1312 01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:15.359 the navigator did travel around West Africa and he went 1313 01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:17.640 down we don't know exactly how far, but probably about 1314 01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:21.119 center of Africa that he went back. So those travels 1315 01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:24.239 may have influenced Plato as well. But Plato again, if 1316 01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:27.239 you listen to Smiths Chris, it's saying within two types 1317 01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:30.119 of pillars inside the big sea but also conquering the 1318 01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:31.960 little sea, and the little sea is the Greek sea. 1319 01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:34.720 According to the two priests, there are two priests that 1320 01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:44.239 were speaking to Solon. We can go next life. So 1321 01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:48.359 the basic timeline I would put this out is basically 1322 01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:50.760 at the Santorini eruption, So I do have to grieve 1323 01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:53.479 scholars that has something to do with Santorini. Every scar 1324 01:11:53.560 --> 01:11:55.840 I ran across ended up back at this date of 1325 01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:58.880 one thousand, six hundred PC. So you've got the Atlantean world, 1326 01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:01.760 which is the Middle East basically, and then the Tartessian world, 1327 01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:04.720 which is the Roman Greek world, and that didn't start 1328 01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:07.760 until definitely after the Bronze Age collapse and the Romans 1329 01:12:07.840 --> 01:12:09.680 really started to gain a lot more power in Italy, 1330 01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:14.039 and Tartesso's really wasn't associated to Spain right away. It 1331 01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:17.600 was associated with Italy because that's where the Greeks first colonized. 1332 01:12:18.039 --> 01:12:21.079 Then over time they went to Spain. But there's conflation 1333 01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:23.159 between that legend. But that's a whole nother story. So 1334 01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:26.920 the original Lanteans, they weren't white. They were probably Berber 1335 01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:31.239 Egyptian hit tied Iranian kind of descent, a mix of 1336 01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:35.680 tan skin or brown skin. And they're from the land 1337 01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:38.239 of the Sun. You know, we're living under the sun, 1338 01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:41.600 as Plato says. And then that Bronze Age collapse happens 1339 01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:44.239 and then shift things start to shift. But again the 1340 01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:47.159 logic is, it's not that the Greek the priest's science 1341 01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:49.760 is saying Atlantic our island was destroyed. Now he's actually 1342 01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:53.039 saying we recovered. Even though there's lots of evidence in 1343 01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:57.600 Egypt of earthquake damage everywhere on some megalithic structures, and 1344 01:12:57.640 --> 01:13:01.359 there's a show called Ancient Armageddon just kind of like 1345 01:13:01.399 --> 01:13:04.680 as Apocalypse, but this was definitely a more mainstream documentary 1346 01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:07.800 on HBO Max and Ancient Armageddon. There are scholars and 1347 01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:10.119 they're saying that, yeah, there's definitely evidance. We're seeing that 1348 01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:13.119 there's a lot of major earthquake damage all these temples, 1349 01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:16.039 and they could date to around the Centerini eruption. The 1350 01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:19.159 problem is they have to move that Bronze Age collapse 1351 01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:21.560 from the Early Bronze Age to the Middle Bronze Age. 1352 01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:25.520 So there's a chance that scholars are definitely wrong about 1353 01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:28.039 the dates of when this happened, and Plato may actually 1354 01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:30.199 be right sort of, but Plato would put it to 1355 01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:32.600 around one thousand, five hundred and fifty PC if we 1356 01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:38.199 go by the nine hundred hypothesis, So that's where you 1357 01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:40.399 got the Old World Atlanteans, which were basically, you know, 1358 01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:43.199 the biblical world where they were naked. You know, they 1359 01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:46.039 dressed more seductively in the sense, but in Europe they 1360 01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:49.039 had to wear more clothes because it was colder on average. 1361 01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:53.039 So there's a transition. You know, as clothing developed and 1362 01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:56.920 technology developed, the Europeans expanded. Once you're written into Ukraine, 1363 01:13:57.560 --> 01:14:00.640 there is tenfold amount of a cultural to what Egypt 1364 01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:03.960 ever had. But it takes a large population to be 1365 01:14:03.960 --> 01:14:05.720 able to control all that land, So it took a 1366 01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:10.760 long time for the Europeans to gain that temperate climate zone. 1367 01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:14.319 But once the population grew big enough, they became more 1368 01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:19.680 powerful than Egypt the Romans. And that's why Europe had 1369 01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:22.880 a geopltical advantage compared to other parts of the world 1370 01:14:22.920 --> 01:14:27.119 because of their geography and their closeness, their proxymmetry to 1371 01:14:27.239 --> 01:14:33.039 the original Atlantis and Garden of Eden, because civilizations started 1372 01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:35.439 in the Middle East of gobecuy Tepe and Karin Tepe. 1373 01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:40.319 If we look at the corridor from the Turkey region 1374 01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:43.439 up into the Black Sea, we see the journeys of 1375 01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:46.239 Jason and the Argonauts going over there to get the 1376 01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:48.840 Golden Fleece, and what they found is that there was 1377 01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:52.960 a big processing center of gold over in the western 1378 01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:55.800 part or the eastern part of the Black Sea, which 1379 01:14:55.880 --> 01:14:58.960 is where Jason and his crew were going. So they 1380 01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:02.119 had a link not only to ancient Egypt, but all 1381 01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:04.359 the way up into the Caucasus. And we see today 1382 01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:10.119 the Russian language is based off of the Greek you know, 1383 01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:13.279 morphology of their their alphabet, so you've got. 1384 01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:15.880 A huge Grecians originally, yeah, right. 1385 01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:19.239 Through Cadmus, right, but you've got that huge Greek influence, 1386 01:15:19.319 --> 01:15:22.319 and you know, we see Eastern Orthodox Church up in 1387 01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:27.079 Russia coming through that Anatolian region, so that you know, 1388 01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:31.279 the whole connection to up there in the Black Sea 1389 01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:35.279 region and the Greeks. That's less talked about than the 1390 01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:37.960 rest of the Mediterranean because they had contacted. 1391 01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:40.720 Because most of the trade was definitely coming to Turkey 1392 01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:44.560 and Egypt in the Palestinian region because that's where agriculture 1393 01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:47.760 was really being developed, was more sophisticated compared to the 1394 01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:51.359 early Greeks means seven RBC. But then eventually as they 1395 01:15:51.479 --> 01:15:54.359 learned that that those trades, you know, they did spread 1396 01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:58.760 up into Ukraine. Well typically the Crimean region is probably 1397 01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:01.239 where they landed, but most of them probably were still 1398 01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:05.199 following the coastline of northern Turkey, and then some braved 1399 01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:07.520 enough went across the Black Sea. But the majority of 1400 01:16:07.560 --> 01:16:10.079 trade routes are not going up to Europe until the 1401 01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:11.319 Roman periods. 1402 01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:15.119 And the metallurgy is coming through that region in de Greece, 1403 01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:16.960 so they've got the majority of metal. 1404 01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:20.800 The majority of the medal came from the Phoenicians, and 1405 01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:21.479 that came. 1406 01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:22.079 From the Middle. 1407 01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:27.239 The Greeks were the Scythians, and the Scythian region is 1408 01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:29.840 all the way up there in the Black Seacucauses regions. 1409 01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:32.039 That's where they got a lot of their mythology from 1410 01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:33.640 is through the Cythian influence as well. 1411 01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:34.920 So they've got to. 1412 01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:43.279 Question just really quick, for Peter, uh, are we maybe 1413 01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:45.359 I'm putting the cart before the horse, but are we 1414 01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:50.960 totally just eliminating like the weird metaphysical, spiritual weirdness with 1415 01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:54.600 this story, because I guess it has. 1416 01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:58.119 When you really read Plato. Plato is concerned about politics. 1417 01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:00.920 Even to me, I don't know if I'm. 1418 01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:05.039 I can't if I can get on board with him, 1419 01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:08.560 but like I feel like, let's just say I'm retarded. 1420 01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:11.439 It's not hard to do I do believe that they 1421 01:17:11.560 --> 01:17:16.720 had like fucking some extra okay, interdimensional weirdness going on, 1422 01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:22.640 maybe some spiritualism, uh, some contacting of like some higher 1423 01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:27.079 up motherfuckers, like yeah, some ship like that like that. 1424 01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:29.399 That's where I'm at with it. I mean, I get 1425 01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:31.640 Plato and like all that stuff. He could be a 1426 01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:34.880 horrible war in making shit up to and. 1427 01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:36.159 I could be definitely wrong. 1428 01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:38.600 But when I think of Atlantis, even if it's Egypt 1429 01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:41.840 or like some kind of like a subsidy of Egypt 1430 01:17:41.960 --> 01:17:46.600 or whatever, all I think about is fallen angel technology 1431 01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:53.359 communicating with x extraterrestrial, interdimensional whatever type of spirits fill 1432 01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:58.600 in the blank, and like having some kind of like 1433 01:17:58.920 --> 01:18:02.000 otherworldly tech achnology. Like you're not going to convince me 1434 01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:04.960 they build the pyramids with fucking ropes and pulleys. You're 1435 01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:09.199 not going to convince me that the the we're like 1436 01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:12.199 slaves with whips and chains and like stuff like that. 1437 01:18:12.399 --> 01:18:15.000 Like I'm totally you'll never convince me of that in 1438 01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:15.840 a million years. 1439 01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:19.760 And so like cultures, not their own people. 1440 01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:25.359 Well whoever, I think they fucking leavitate anyways, Like like 1441 01:18:25.720 --> 01:18:30.880 if you were to say there's a spiritual aspect to this, like, where. 1442 01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:33.760 Are you get slide the next slide? 1443 01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:36.520 I think I do show Okay, Okay, Howard is saying 1444 01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:41.439 right here sound residents, Yeah, cimatics. He plays a big 1445 01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:41.840 role in that. 1446 01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:45.880 Actually, go to the next slide after. I'll go back 1447 01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:50.039 to them later. Next one. Let's see next one, jac, 1448 01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:52.960 we'll go back. I can't even get to Okay. So 1449 01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:56.039 I love this painting. Okay, So this is a kind 1450 01:18:56.039 --> 01:19:00.359 of a symbolic reference by this, uh, this artist trying 1451 01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:04.119 to describe the tomais and trying to describe the cosmological world. 1452 01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:07.920 So yes, Plato is definitely influenced by a spiritual world. 1453 01:19:08.279 --> 01:19:11.039 But Plato had a little bit more of an atheistic 1454 01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:15.800 perspective on the cosmology. So he did believe as above 1455 01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:18.760 so below. He believed that basically the idea, you know, 1456 01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:21.720 whatever you bind on Earth is bound in heaven, and 1457 01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:26.840 the gods will influence geopolitics. So when the super massive 1458 01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:30.600 volcano goes boom, they believe possibility that the gods may 1459 01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:33.600 have caused the volcano go boom. Now, did the actual 1460 01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:36.960 UAPs make the volcano go boom? Probably not. The UAPs 1461 01:19:37.039 --> 01:19:40.000 were probably just stating around watching as the Bible says 1462 01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:45.760 they're the watchers when it comes to actual supernatural interventions 1463 01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:49.279 into history. Do you go back a slide you know what? 1464 01:19:49.359 --> 01:19:53.479 I was just thinking though, like real quick, sure, wasn't 1465 01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:59.119 it like Marsilio Ficino kind of translating Plato that spurred 1466 01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:04.800 like the Renaissance kind of Uh yeah, you can't say 1467 01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:07.239 that motherfucker wasn't spiritual if we old renaissances. 1468 01:20:07.359 --> 01:20:10.920 Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, there's definitely influence, Like a lot 1469 01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:15.560 of Christians really give honor to Plato on the cosmology 1470 01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:18.439 god and angels and gods. 1471 01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:18.760 Yeah. 1472 01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:23.239 But again, ultimately at the end of Tamayas, he goes 1473 01:20:23.359 --> 01:20:26.840 back to saying all this cosmological bs, I mean not bs, 1474 01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:29.960 but you know, all this stuff about cosmology, and then 1475 01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:32.359 he simplifies and say, well, you know, let's go back 1476 01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:34.720 to talk about war. And it's all just a reference 1477 01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:38.000 to the war because the Persians were the big bad guy. 1478 01:20:38.079 --> 01:20:41.399 They're bad Okay, So he was he wanted to take 1479 01:20:41.479 --> 01:20:44.079 all this spiritual stuff and say we need to fight 1480 01:20:44.119 --> 01:20:47.720 against the Persians. Basically, So you go back a slide 1481 01:20:47.800 --> 01:20:52.520 to actual understanding of supernatural entities. Go back one slideh 1482 01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:58.920 kind of explain. I think two slides are okay. So 1483 01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:00.960 this is where you know, this may have nothing to 1484 01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:06.880 Oh go I'm sorry, go back, go forward, I think, oh, 1485 01:21:07.039 --> 01:21:11.279 go forward, I'm sorry. Okay, this is go back. 1486 01:21:14.439 --> 01:21:14.800 There we go. 1487 01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:17.159 Okay. So this is where this may have nothing to 1488 01:21:17.239 --> 01:21:21.520 really do in a Plato's perspective, but more of our perspective, 1489 01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:25.720 because now we do have an anthropological understanding of our past. 1490 01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:29.119 We do have understanding that there are lots of evidence 1491 01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:33.199 of hominids, dozens of bones, hundreds if not thousands, and 1492 01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:37.920 more is being found, and something did change in us 1493 01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:41.600 and scientists are arguing in anthropologistaying there's something changed with 1494 01:21:41.640 --> 01:21:44.279 the fox speed two gene and the nova gene in 1495 01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:47.640 our brain related to language, and the vocal cord lyrics 1496 01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:52.199 elongated and changed its form slightly. And then there's the 1497 01:21:52.279 --> 01:21:55.439 mutation for us to be able to handle milk for lactose, 1498 01:21:55.920 --> 01:21:58.279 and that happened around ten thousand years ago, and then 1499 01:21:58.279 --> 01:22:01.079 there's mutation of the chin. So every hominid that we 1500 01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:03.680 find that, you know, like Michael talks about, you always 1501 01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:05.560 want to say, oh, what these homatants were advanced, No, 1502 01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:09.119 they are archaic. We can tell clearly by the anatomy, 1503 01:22:10.279 --> 01:22:14.439 and that's it shows that there's something mutating in us. 1504 01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:20.039 The question is, can UAPs do small discrete interventions at 1505 01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:23.239 the molecular biological level. I would say as a Catholic, 1506 01:22:23.239 --> 01:22:25.239 I would not rule that out, but it can be 1507 01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:29.239 very discrete. So if evolution doesn't steer us in the 1508 01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:33.079 right direction once in a while, maybe these UAPs will 1509 01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:36.680 intervene at the genetic level, but at a micro discrete 1510 01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:39.039 matter that we wouldn't be able to tell. And it 1511 01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:43.520 completely shifts how we evolve into an advanced civilization. So 1512 01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:46.600 we go from being in Plato's cave, not understanding the 1513 01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:49.439 whole world in the big picture as a hominid, and 1514 01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:52.359 all of a sudden at around seventy thousand years ago. 1515 01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:53.640 So if you want to say there's a lot of 1516 01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:56.479 civilizations in the past, it would have to be have 1517 01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:59.000 to be after seventy thousand years ago, because that's when 1518 01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:02.119 all these mutations popping up and the birth of art 1519 01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:08.279 really starts getting hold with the or human's actual modern 1520 01:23:08.359 --> 01:23:11.439 Homo sapiens sapiens going up into Europe and doing paintings there, 1521 01:23:11.800 --> 01:23:15.880 and those abstract paintings, but other Hominins never did abstract paintings. 1522 01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:18.920 It wasn't conceptual. It wasn't They had the power of 1523 01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:22.640 synthetic language. They had communication just like a dog does 1524 01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:25.880 some extent, but they could not speak. They were physically 1525 01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:28.800 impaired by that ability. But all of a sudden, as 1526 01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:31.720 the Bible says, you know, he blew into Adam, and 1527 01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:33.840 then Adam became a man. He had the spirit of 1528 01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:37.800 God was in the image and likeness. So something definitely 1529 01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:41.880 changed es and evolution does explain like ninety percent of it, 1530 01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:44.479 but once in a while there could be these slight, 1531 01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:49.319 abnormal mutational changes, and these UAPs clearly exist. The question 1532 01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:52.600 is how much intervention have they really done in history, 1533 01:23:52.800 --> 01:23:56.319 because again, all it took was for one interdimensional being, 1534 01:23:56.399 --> 01:23:58.159 if you want to believe Jesus was one of them, 1535 01:23:58.319 --> 01:24:01.119 to intervene in the Roman Empire, boom chain reaction of 1536 01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:02.520 the whole geopolitical worldview. 1537 01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:03.239 Just like that. 1538 01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:05.920 It was only thirty eight thirty three years or less, 1539 01:24:06.560 --> 01:24:09.000 just a magic wizard man like Gandalf appeared and boom 1540 01:24:09.279 --> 01:24:12.399 it changed history forever. Same thing with Mohammad. Mohammad had 1541 01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:17.439 experienced boom It changes the whole geopolitical chessboard. So angels 1542 01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:21.079 or the into the interdimensional beings may have a slight 1543 01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:26.920 hand in guiding the program or the simulation, but it's 1544 01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:31.760 not Ultimately it's the cosmic God or Allah or you know, 1545 01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:34.640 as Plato describes. You know, there is one cosmic god 1546 01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:39.880 that's hidden. He is ultimate in control of order versus chaos, 1547 01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:43.960 and there is this kind of trajectory into orders. We 1548 01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:47.119 see we moved from something, We moved from something ugly 1549 01:24:47.239 --> 01:24:51.279 and fearful to something beautiful and loving, and that that's 1550 01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:56.159 profound in human in the planet of this history, because 1551 01:24:56.279 --> 01:24:59.760 there's no evidence that we have buildings like this. Back 1552 01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:02.760 to thousand years ago, we would found the foundation stones 1553 01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:05.479 of the universities. You know, they would have built something 1554 01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:08.880 like a university if they advanced at our level, but 1555 01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:12.239 we have nothing. It would not be completely gone. Okay, 1556 01:25:12.279 --> 01:25:14.640 look at Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore would be there for 1557 01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:17.840 a million years, assuming people don't blow it up. Or 1558 01:25:18.079 --> 01:25:22.439 Crazy Horse Monument in South Dakota as well, So we 1559 01:25:22.640 --> 01:25:26.560 have something definitely changed. Question is did these UAPs have 1560 01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:30.000 a hand absolutely when it comes to cultural influence. They 1561 01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:33.359 appear to people, maybe to this one prophet or whatever, 1562 01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:38.119 or they manifest physically as avatars poof in and out, 1563 01:25:38.199 --> 01:25:41.119 and they're influencing culture. And that's what Jacques Falle is saying. 1564 01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:44.920 So yes, they are having intervention. But Plato is really 1565 01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:47.000 actually as concerned with the gods as you might think. 1566 01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:49.840 He's more of like a communists if you actually listen 1567 01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:53.039 to him at times, he's a little bit more atheistic, 1568 01:25:53.119 --> 01:25:55.800 but he knows the gods exists, but he's taking the 1569 01:25:55.880 --> 01:25:59.960 allegory of the gods and making allegorical for geopolitical reas 1570 01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:10.600 because he's more concerned about politics, like everybody seems to be. Sorry, 1571 01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:19.439 I was going sorry, that was a big rant. So 1572 01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:22.359 if you go back to the David Mianto slide, let me, 1573 01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:25.640 let me go back one more, or just gonna skip 1574 01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:31.840 around so you can go back one more, I guess. Okay, 1575 01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:34.159 so this is where I'm gonna call out. You know, 1576 01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:37.319 these two archaeolo are not archaeologists but historian and archaeologists. 1577 01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:41.000 I respect doctor David Miano. Oops, happen to my earbuds 1578 01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:44.000 and Flint Dipple to some degree. Okay, I've reached out 1579 01:26:44.039 --> 01:26:46.840 to them. Miano is aware of me, but he's ignoring me. 1580 01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:50.399 He's give me the silent treatment, but he's aware and 1581 01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:53.359 he he would probably be open to the hypothsis of 1582 01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:56.439 Egypt being an influence on Atlantis because of authors or 1583 01:26:56.479 --> 01:26:59.359 researchers like Jake Gwin Griffiths of Oxford University, who's the 1584 01:26:59.439 --> 01:27:03.720 first to pose it. But he's ignoring presenting us to 1585 01:27:03.800 --> 01:27:06.479 his audience. He's intentionally ignoring it. He's not bringing up 1586 01:27:06.560 --> 01:27:09.119 the connection between Egypt and Hittites and the Persians, which 1587 01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:13.239 would fit with the mainstream archeological record, other than maybe 1588 01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:15.840 shifting the Bronze Age collapse to the Middle Bronze Age 1589 01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:19.800 instead of the earlier or Late Bronze Age or earlier 1590 01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:22.960 sorry get confused, like the Bronze Age at one thousand 1591 01:27:22.960 --> 01:27:25.319 and two hundred PC versus one thousand and six hundred BC. 1592 01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:27.560 So that's where I'm open to possibility that dates are 1593 01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:31.000 off by a few hundred years at the most. But Flint, Dibble, 1594 01:27:31.560 --> 01:27:35.239 and Mian are so focused more on fighting back against 1595 01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:37.880 more of the New Age at perspective and not really 1596 01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:41.279 presenting an actual rational perspective on Atlantis because they are 1597 01:27:41.319 --> 01:27:44.479 more liberal and they understand that Atlantis does have connections 1598 01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:47.159 with the Nazis, and Nazis wanted to take Atlantis and 1599 01:27:47.279 --> 01:27:51.720 make it their own story, just as Eric Vondanaka and 1600 01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:54.399 Zacharisichen are making things bigger than it really needs to be. 1601 01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:58.680 They're trying to fit to their national politics. Again, it's political. 1602 01:27:58.920 --> 01:28:02.760 Things become political even in archaeology and science, and Plato 1603 01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:05.119 was very political. He wrote the story because he hated 1604 01:28:05.159 --> 01:28:08.800 the purchase, because they wiped out Athens, so naturally that 1605 01:28:09.319 --> 01:28:12.760 he's writing me story stories to figure out should we 1606 01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:14.880 be like the old world or we could be something new? 1607 01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:19.159 And I would I would tell doctor Miano and doctor 1608 01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:22.560 Flint Dibble that yeah, Atlantis is real, but you just 1609 01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:26.000 need to present these other researchers that you're ignoring, like 1610 01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:30.880 Jay Guin Griffiths is probably number one, J. G. Bennett, 1611 01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:34.880 oldf Rickter of Schupennheind Germany, and many others. And they're 1612 01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:36.920 all mostly from Europe and they figured out this, but 1613 01:28:37.119 --> 01:28:39.359 they're in other languages and you have to find the 1614 01:28:39.399 --> 01:28:42.159 English translations of their work to be able to figure 1615 01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:44.279 out what they're arguing, which is a lot logical and 1616 01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:48.520 rational that even Graham Hancock is starting to shift. He say, okay, 1617 01:28:48.520 --> 01:28:50.600 I understand lances to me, is more of a concept 1618 01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:53.000 for a lot of civilization in the Ice Age, and 1619 01:28:53.079 --> 01:28:55.359 I'm not ruin out there might be another source of 1620 01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:58.279 civilization in the Ice Age at the level of Karen 1621 01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:01.039 Teppe go Beckley Tepe, another one of them, somewhere in 1622 01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:04.359 the Middle East, or maybe even along the Equator zone, 1623 01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:08.039 as Graham is arguing, is probably where that lostivilization would be. 1624 01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:10.760 I agree there's a chance of that, but to day 1625 01:29:11.119 --> 01:29:13.960 reach the level of Roman Egypt, absolutely not. We would 1626 01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:17.840 have found those Megoithic statues at that level, but we 1627 01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:21.520 don't see that, So Randall, I'm sorry, Meano Inflant's right, 1628 01:29:21.640 --> 01:29:24.640 there is no evidence, you know, of transfer of certain 1629 01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:27.560 types of plants like apples or corn. There's no evidence 1630 01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:31.159 of glass. Glass wasn't really invented until later periods after 1631 01:29:31.239 --> 01:29:34.199 the Bronze Age, and there's some glass Egyptians had in 1632 01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:36.720 the hit Tides, but not near at the level until 1633 01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:39.399 later periods. So glass, we should be able to find glass. 1634 01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:41.479 You could break down glass, but there's still be sharks 1635 01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:44.279 and you could tell it be manufactured. We have never 1636 01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:48.560 found any glass in any burial mount ever, other than 1637 01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:54.399 natural glass like ones found in Egypt actually from produced 1638 01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:57.199 by it from asteroids millions of years ago, or iron 1639 01:29:57.359 --> 01:29:58.640 like we should be able to find some kind of 1640 01:29:58.720 --> 01:30:01.319 iron pick would have survived now, or the fact that 1641 01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:06.119 all the oil wells are not depleted. There's still abundance 1642 01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:09.439 amounts of oil. And if you want to show that 1643 01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:12.479 oil has been depleted, you know, you have to be 1644 01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:16.359 able to say that there's like no easy oil to extract, 1645 01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:19.359 but there's plenty of easy oil, which indicates that there 1646 01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:23.840 was never any advanced civization within the past thirty million 1647 01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:27.920 years now fifty five million years ago. Now we can 1648 01:30:28.119 --> 01:30:29.960 argue there's a chance there could have been a loss 1649 01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:33.680 civization or you know, if. 1650 01:30:33.600 --> 01:30:38.279 On that out of place artifacts. So you've got in 1651 01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:41.199 coal deposits in West Virginia, they've got, you know, little 1652 01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:44.319 trinkets and metal that seems to be from a completely 1653 01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:46.039 different civilization we're talking about. 1654 01:30:46.039 --> 01:30:50.079 I was gonna mention that years ago, Yeah, yeah, does 1655 01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:52.439 it look like a sword? Does it look back to 1656 01:30:54.800 --> 01:30:58.600 And I would need to see those pictures. I've looked 1657 01:30:58.600 --> 01:31:04.199 at the pix called Pick in Texas that, to argue, 1658 01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:10.079 is petrified, and I've seen it personally, and there's different 1659 01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:13.119 types of petrification. But we need to see very clear 1660 01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:16.159 evidence for something massive, a massive clean like that, and 1661 01:31:16.319 --> 01:31:18.560 the only thing we have is the place them. 1662 01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:22.760 Yeah, but I mean as a Catholic, you can understand this. 1663 01:31:23.039 --> 01:31:25.960 I mean, show me evidence of like half of the 1664 01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:27.880 ship in the Bible, right, but we all believe it. 1665 01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:32.119 That's the faith aspect of it. I mean, where's Jesus's bones. 1666 01:31:31.800 --> 01:31:35.000 And like whatever. It's like, this is the faith aspect. 1667 01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:40.279 Cannot but you cannot. 1668 01:31:40.359 --> 01:31:42.920 So it takes people like me, who might be totally 1669 01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:45.399 over the fence and crazy, and people like you who 1670 01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:47.880 are more historical, to meet in the middle. And there 1671 01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:52.000 could be truth somewhere in there. I think, like Atlantis, 1672 01:31:52.119 --> 01:31:55.520 they had like advanced technology. 1673 01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:59.760 I don't believe ins and like you know, I just. 1674 01:32:01.399 --> 01:32:03.880 I think, you know, there could be multiple things that 1675 01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:07.520 are true at the same time. I don't think you 1676 01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:10.920 have to necessarily find evidence of Atlantis for it to 1677 01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:12.000 have existed. 1678 01:32:12.600 --> 01:32:15.439 It may just in a different state. 1679 01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:18.079 I don't think so, because I mean, people believe in 1680 01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:21.159 sand plus and ship like that and they have no 1681 01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:21.920 evidence of that. 1682 01:32:22.159 --> 01:32:25.239 So I mean you wouldn't have much of a Bible 1683 01:32:25.359 --> 01:32:26.640 to go by if you don't want to if you. 1684 01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:32.000 Need imence Plato, not the Bible. But you know the 1685 01:32:32.079 --> 01:32:36.119 ancient scrolls the Hebrews wrote, because the Hebrews carbonated scrolls 1686 01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:38.520 are right around the same time as the Greek scrolls. 1687 01:32:39.319 --> 01:32:40.960 Why because they're talking with each other. 1688 01:32:41.359 --> 01:32:43.159 It's the same thing with the dinosaurs, you know. I 1689 01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:46.000 mean they they present to us this evidence and they 1690 01:32:46.119 --> 01:32:49.000 draw all these pictures up for us, But dinosaurs really 1691 01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:51.720 were never really mentioned, you know, I mean large lizards 1692 01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:58.760 were mentioned. Dragons more so big birds maybe right dragon. 1693 01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:03.239 There there is no The word leviathan derives from a 1694 01:33:03.359 --> 01:33:07.359 snake or a whale. There's two debates whether it's referring 1695 01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:09.960 to whales or a snake. Because in Egypt, what do 1696 01:33:10.039 --> 01:33:13.239 we find. We literally find ancient whalebones on the surface. 1697 01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:16.840 So when people, you know Berber tribes ran across that, 1698 01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:20.119 they say, hey, that's a Leviathan because they literally saw 1699 01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:22.199 a giant bone that's you know, fifty feet long or 1700 01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:25.399 you know, the the spine of it. So that's where 1701 01:33:25.439 --> 01:33:27.039 they're getting that from the fact that we had that 1702 01:33:27.199 --> 01:33:30.560 exposed whale bone or some type of ancient whale that's 1703 01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:31.600 like fifty years ago. 1704 01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:36.640 That's evidence many different mont or you know, ancient creatures 1705 01:33:36.720 --> 01:33:38.039 from many different cultures. 1706 01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:43.279 But the problem is you're not conflating all of them. Yes, 1707 01:33:43.359 --> 01:33:49.039 because the conflation is, you know, the god's avatars versus 1708 01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:52.399 actual animals. So when you say bigfoot or werewolves, do 1709 01:33:52.439 --> 01:33:56.760 they exist Catholics? Okay, real Catholics that look into this. Absolutely, 1710 01:33:57.039 --> 01:34:00.640 Bigfoot is real, but it's not an evolutionary a creature 1711 01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:03.720 born from nature. It's just an avatar of an angel 1712 01:34:03.840 --> 01:34:06.359 or a demon. They can change from a werewolf to 1713 01:34:06.439 --> 01:34:10.039 a bigfoot to a great instantaneously. That's the nature of 1714 01:34:10.079 --> 01:34:13.319 the gods. This is where doctor mionnodfin Dieople don't understand 1715 01:34:13.319 --> 01:34:16.720 that the conservation of matter can be broken. That law 1716 01:34:16.760 --> 01:34:20.560 in physics is going to change as UAP disclosure is 1717 01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:24.640 revealed to people and Big Brother, the military, the Pentagon, 1718 01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:28.239 the intelligencies are holding everyone's hand right now so they 1719 01:34:28.279 --> 01:34:31.479 don't scare the children. We are the children. So there 1720 01:34:32.840 --> 01:34:33.520 these entities. 1721 01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:36.520 Yeah, I'm on and I'm a Christian by the way, 1722 01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:38.920 I'm just saying sometimes you don't need evidence for shit 1723 01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:43.000 to be real. And I don't believe necessarily in dinosaurs. Okay, 1724 01:34:43.039 --> 01:34:46.399 there might have been some serpentine creature something some shit 1725 01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:46.640 like that. 1726 01:34:46.760 --> 01:34:48.640 But there's lots of bones of dinosaurs. 1727 01:34:49.359 --> 01:34:50.520 There's lots of lie you. 1728 01:34:52.520 --> 01:34:54.760 Know, were the bones of dinosaurs? I mean, you know 1729 01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:57.520 they there's talk of giants in the past, but where 1730 01:34:57.640 --> 01:35:01.840 where are the giant bones? You know, giants people's cultures. 1731 01:35:02.039 --> 01:35:05.600 You know there's dragon in the Chinese cultures and I 1732 01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:08.159 mean you can say Nephelm. There's giants in every culture 1733 01:35:08.199 --> 01:35:11.680 as well. They go by different names. You know, you're sure, 1734 01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:15.199 but you know you're coming atically from you know, one 1735 01:35:15.399 --> 01:35:18.479 kind of perspective, and and and and I get that, 1736 01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:20.439 but do. 1737 01:35:20.479 --> 01:35:22.880 You literally believe there are giants like in a sense 1738 01:35:22.920 --> 01:35:25.479 that we should be able to find a twelve foot skeleton? 1739 01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:29.119 One absolutelytons. 1740 01:35:29.279 --> 01:35:31.560 I have talked with I've made YouTube videos about this 1741 01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:34.199 and uh, I know Chuck from CFAs, the YouTuber that 1742 01:35:34.319 --> 01:35:36.359 die a couple of years ago, he digged into all this. 1743 01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:40.279 And yes, there are definitely legends about all Native Americans. 1744 01:35:40.399 --> 01:35:42.520 And we have archaeological evidence of some of the Americans 1745 01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:45.760 reaching about six to seven feet. That's not abnormal, really, 1746 01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:47.479 it's it's an oud of deep. But there are seven 1747 01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:51.039 feet tall people today. But in the Bible specifically, people 1748 01:35:51.039 --> 01:35:53.840 are correlating the Native American legends with the Bible and reality. 1749 01:35:53.960 --> 01:35:56.319 They're not the same. Again, you're change. You're putting the 1750 01:35:56.359 --> 01:35:59.079 locale of the Bible into the New World, which has 1751 01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:03.840 nothing to do with the Old world. Reality is a 1752 01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:07.239 reference to is a reference to the Egyptians. 1753 01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:07.119 And the. 1754 01:36:10.600 --> 01:36:13.039 Well ag Bashad was a giant that they still have 1755 01:36:13.399 --> 01:36:18.039 his mound, burial mound in Israel that they go to. 1756 01:36:18.640 --> 01:36:21.760 Ashad is one. But they've got several other Canada giants 1757 01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:22.479 in the region. 1758 01:36:22.600 --> 01:36:27.479 So it's we need differ skeletons. Right, it's all over 1759 01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:28.920 the place. Where are these giants? 1760 01:36:29.640 --> 01:36:32.000 And uh, they're also recording them in the in the 1761 01:36:32.039 --> 01:36:35.119 New World. You've got George Washington that mentions pulling out 1762 01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:38.239 giant skeletons. You've got Abraham Lincoln that mentions all of 1763 01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:39.960 the giant skeletons in the mounds. 1764 01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:41.239 You've got so much of. 1765 01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:46.000 That is exaggerate over time because these are newspaper says 1766 01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:48.960 this eight feet. Someone then changes say actually it was 1767 01:36:49.039 --> 01:36:53.119 ten feet. So I someone in Indiana and they couldn't 1768 01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:55.079 get the dimensions right. They said, oh, this lady thing 1769 01:36:55.359 --> 01:36:57.319 saw a ten foot I'm like, is that the size 1770 01:36:57.319 --> 01:36:58.680 of the burial, or is that the size of the 1771 01:36:58.720 --> 01:37:00.920 skeleton's I think it was the size of the skeleton. 1772 01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:04.239 Or we can see the massive we can see massive 1773 01:37:04.960 --> 01:37:08.760 displays of losing the bones by the Smithsonian Institute over 1774 01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:14.640 and over and over again. Government institutions are trying to well, 1775 01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:16.359 I don't know why, but I'm telling you that's what 1776 01:37:16.399 --> 01:37:18.039 they've done. They've done it over and over again. And 1777 01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:22.640 we've got a problem in Crosol right now. Confiscate the 1778 01:37:22.720 --> 01:37:25.720 bones of a giant that's in a museum in Currosow 1779 01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:29.119 right now, because the Currosow Islands had they were referred 1780 01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:32.640 to by Magellan as the Giant Islands. Now Magellan says 1781 01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:35.439 that he he met these giants in person, as well 1782 01:37:35.479 --> 01:37:37.720 as the people who go down to Patagonia who said 1783 01:37:37.920 --> 01:37:41.640 that they met giants in person too. These different sources 1784 01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:42.279 from all these. 1785 01:37:44.039 --> 01:37:45.880 Tribes that talk about just. 1786 01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:49.880 Like Pato's Atlantis, the translations may shift slightly over times, 1787 01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:51.239 so there might be misunderstanding. 1788 01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:56.000 All of these rides were different, they didn't know each other, 1789 01:37:56.119 --> 01:37:58.880 and they talk about the proportions of the giants being 1790 01:37:59.039 --> 01:38:02.800 not that of people with gigantism. They are specifically making 1791 01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:06.520 that claim that it's different from people with gigantism, which 1792 01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:09.720 they understood. So for them to all be saying that, 1793 01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:13.439 and then watching the malfeasance of the Smithsonian Institute as 1794 01:38:13.479 --> 01:38:17.119 well as other government entities, it's really hard to conclude 1795 01:38:17.159 --> 01:38:19.680 that it's not a massive conspiracy to cover up this 1796 01:38:20.439 --> 01:38:23.039 part of us that now we know nothing about. 1797 01:38:23.800 --> 01:38:26.359 It's just the aliens and stuff. They're covering it up 1798 01:38:26.479 --> 01:38:27.239 just like the aliens. 1799 01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:32.880 Well they haven't tried, you know, but there's no doubt that. 1800 01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:36.279 The aliens are really just interdimensional beings. It's the interdimensional 1801 01:38:36.359 --> 01:38:39.279 beings that are actually covering themselves up. The Pentagon has 1802 01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:41.960 no control over the gods. If the gods want to 1803 01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:44.279 appear just like that, they could do it, but they're not. 1804 01:38:44.960 --> 01:38:47.960 So they're being discreete sneaky, in deceptive at times. So 1805 01:38:48.439 --> 01:38:50.760 is it possible that they could mutate some humans to 1806 01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:54.439 produce a few outlier giants seven to eight feet tall? Sure? 1807 01:38:54.880 --> 01:38:58.439 I think there's something definitely weird in carentepic. There's definitely 1808 01:38:58.479 --> 01:39:02.840 a reference to six fingers, eight fingers, and some with 1809 01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:05.199 four fingers. I don't know what's up of that. The 1810 01:39:05.319 --> 01:39:09.319 current hypothesis is that maybe symbolizes their rank based off 1811 01:39:09.399 --> 01:39:12.920 the number of fingers. A little odd. I'm not sure yet. 1812 01:39:13.079 --> 01:39:16.199 Hopefully we find some actual writing or petroglyphs that come 1813 01:39:16.239 --> 01:39:18.720 out of go beckway Teppe and Karen Tape. But there's 1814 01:39:18.760 --> 01:39:22.640 something weird there. And the Bible does reference is polydactyalism, 1815 01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:26.640 so there, But it's the question is is there's some 1816 01:39:26.840 --> 01:39:29.760 tradition being passed down from Kiren Teppe go Beque Tepe 1817 01:39:29.880 --> 01:39:33.359 into the Biblical reference with the reference of polytactism. Possibly. 1818 01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:36.560 I wouldn't rule out the possibility that UAPs could mutate 1819 01:39:36.720 --> 01:39:40.039 a few humans, but it would just be some outliers, 1820 01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:42.439 a mutation born and then it dies. But it's not 1821 01:39:42.640 --> 01:39:46.359 persistent where we could see it everywhere because someone, some 1822 01:39:46.640 --> 01:39:48.960 construction worker would have dug it up by now take 1823 01:39:48.960 --> 01:39:52.560 a picture and post on Instagram someone what we're doing. 1824 01:39:52.760 --> 01:39:57.039 Lots of six fingered hand prints from around the American Southwest, 1825 01:39:57.079 --> 01:39:58.680 including some Yeah. 1826 01:39:58.720 --> 01:40:02.079 There's something to that. So there is this polism is 1827 01:40:02.279 --> 01:40:05.960 something possible? Yeah, there's possible. 1828 01:40:06.039 --> 01:40:08.279 And if it's related to the giants as well, those 1829 01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:11.760 are two big, glaring coincidences that we need to start 1830 01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:14.760 taking more seriously because I think the institutions that are 1831 01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:18.600 investigating this or not were not investigate. 1832 01:40:20.720 --> 01:40:23.560 I think that there are many depictions in hieroglyphics of 1833 01:40:23.640 --> 01:40:26.479 giants too that I mean, if we're talking about Egypt, 1834 01:40:26.520 --> 01:40:28.920 there's some fucking hieroglyphics you might want to check out 1835 01:40:28.960 --> 01:40:31.359 because there's some giants up in that bitch. 1836 01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:34.159 But I also don't believe enough you take the art. 1837 01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:38.319 Too seriously though, because a symbolic at times, yeah, because 1838 01:40:38.359 --> 01:40:41.920 sometimes a giant the power of the feruh, not a 1839 01:40:42.039 --> 01:40:42.800 literal giant. 1840 01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:47.319 Yeah, But I mean some of them, some of them 1841 01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:49.560 might be a metaphor, some of them might be like 1842 01:40:49.720 --> 01:40:50.199 real ship. 1843 01:40:50.960 --> 01:40:52.399 But also. 1844 01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:56.000 What did you say, Jules, I said it could be both. 1845 01:40:56.399 --> 01:40:57.600 Maybe it could be both. 1846 01:40:57.600 --> 01:40:58.640 There's not much evidence. 1847 01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:02.840 The problem is is like we find all of this 1848 01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:04.439 stuff in the New World, we find all of this 1849 01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:06.119 stuff in the Old world, and then we see the 1850 01:41:06.159 --> 01:41:09.920 same institutions coming in and messing up any chance of 1851 01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:12.600 having a real investigation. And that's the problem is that 1852 01:41:12.960 --> 01:41:15.600 if we can't get these ideas taken seriously at least 1853 01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:18.159 in some way, shape or form, the Smithsonian can keep 1854 01:41:18.199 --> 01:41:21.319 destroying evidence, which they've been caught doing over and over again, 1855 01:41:21.399 --> 01:41:24.000 especially with the boneyard up in Alaska. They took all 1856 01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:26.520 of this stuff from the boneyard up in Alaska down 1857 01:41:26.560 --> 01:41:28.720 to the Smithsonian to put it on display, and they 1858 01:41:28.920 --> 01:41:32.279 just dumped it in the river like that type of 1859 01:41:32.359 --> 01:41:35.279 irresponsible behavior needs to be called out, and far too 1860 01:41:35.319 --> 01:41:40.960 often people just say it was that they that they 1861 01:41:41.079 --> 01:41:47.359 took on behalf of a person. No, I don't, I 1862 01:41:47.399 --> 01:41:47.600 don't know. 1863 01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:53.239 It's it's the same thing. 1864 01:41:53.279 --> 01:41:56.760 It's the Cosmos Club and the Smithsonian Institute working together 1865 01:41:56.920 --> 01:42:00.479 to keep down certain aspects of society. You have the 1866 01:42:00.560 --> 01:42:03.840 Cosmos Club pamphlets and the things that they wrote about 1867 01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:07.079 saying we need to keep certain truths from the general public. 1868 01:42:07.159 --> 01:42:09.760 These are the founders of the Smithsonian Institute writing that 1869 01:42:09.920 --> 01:42:12.720 in the Cosmos Club this is very important stuff that 1870 01:42:12.840 --> 01:42:15.760 now we have huge chunks of our own history missing 1871 01:42:16.159 --> 01:42:19.760 because of the elites that were mismanaging all of this evidence. 1872 01:42:19.760 --> 01:42:21.439 And they're still doing it to this day. 1873 01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:26.840 And it's really irresponsible for us political attitude dictate reality here. 1874 01:42:26.920 --> 01:42:32.960 You're it is very political looking at a conspiracy. 1875 01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:36.199 Flint Dibbel, for instance, Flint Dibbel looks at us like 1876 01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:40.399 we're children and having that perspective from these institutions looking 1877 01:42:40.479 --> 01:42:42.359 at us like we don't know what we're talking about 1878 01:42:42.439 --> 01:42:46.239 all the time. Is so we're all fatigued by it 1879 01:42:47.359 --> 01:42:52.239 because we asked questions responsible. 1880 01:42:51.640 --> 01:42:55.720 And Dan Dandy Dunker said that he was trying to 1881 01:42:55.720 --> 01:42:58.840 say that Atlantis is eastern island. But we know you 1882 01:42:58.920 --> 01:43:01.479 can literally look it up yourself and read that Plato's 1883 01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:04.119 elephants and it doesn't rain and there's lots of gold, 1884 01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:07.600 So it makes no sense that he would make that same. 1885 01:43:07.640 --> 01:43:09.920 But because Dan is trying to make the concept bigger 1886 01:43:10.359 --> 01:43:14.199 than what actually Plato was saying, he's ignoring details intentionally, 1887 01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:17.119 or he's not reading it, or he doesn't care. That's 1888 01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:19.880 what doctor me are calling out. And I'm going to 1889 01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:20.399 call that out. 1890 01:43:21.359 --> 01:43:24.239 I agree it should be called out. But the patriarchal 1891 01:43:24.359 --> 01:43:27.880 methodology that they use to keep the public away from 1892 01:43:27.960 --> 01:43:33.760 certain inconvenient facts about their own history is really, really tiresome. 1893 01:43:33.880 --> 01:43:36.079 I mean, there's no way that we can all just 1894 01:43:36.119 --> 01:43:39.319 say the Smithsonian Institute doesn't have their hands dirty when 1895 01:43:39.319 --> 01:43:43.640 it comes to mismanaging all these articles. There's a reason 1896 01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:46.399 why Trump recently signed a document saying we need to 1897 01:43:46.479 --> 01:43:49.319 have a full accounting of what's going on in the Smithsonian. 1898 01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:52.119 They've been outside of the control of the American people 1899 01:43:52.159 --> 01:43:53.800 for a long time now, and we need. 1900 01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:57.880 It's not the Smithsonian, it's the intelligence agencies. If there's 1901 01:43:58.199 --> 01:44:01.119 let me tell you, for military, if there if they 1902 01:44:01.199 --> 01:44:04.119 find something in Iraq that looks like a mutated human 1903 01:44:04.359 --> 01:44:07.079 or a chrimera or anything like that, the first people 1904 01:44:07.079 --> 01:44:09.319 are gonna get it will be the military, and then 1905 01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:11.920 they're sending it off straight to the intelligence to be 1906 01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:15.119 locked up that. I believe the Comsnian, on the other hand, 1907 01:44:15.359 --> 01:44:19.319 is not going to get access to that. See, I 1908 01:44:19.439 --> 01:44:22.159 will go straight to ma Sonian directors say you give 1909 01:44:22.239 --> 01:44:24.239 us that, or we're going to drain your bank account. 1910 01:44:28.840 --> 01:44:29.479 That's what we're trying. 1911 01:44:29.800 --> 01:44:32.039 It's all the same thing. We're just trying to more 1912 01:44:32.159 --> 01:44:33.720 civilian controls. 1913 01:44:33.199 --> 01:44:35.279 One more powerful than the other because one hasn't. 1914 01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:41.600 Done patriarchal, right, it's the patriarchal nature of how they 1915 01:44:41.720 --> 01:44:43.920 treat us, and they cover for the people who are 1916 01:44:43.960 --> 01:44:46.359 pressuring them instead of exposing it to the people who 1917 01:44:46.399 --> 01:44:49.319 should know about it. And that's the big problem is 1918 01:44:49.479 --> 01:44:52.680 all throughout the institutions we find that same attitude, which 1919 01:44:52.760 --> 01:44:54.560 is why a lot of people get upset about this 1920 01:44:54.680 --> 01:44:58.000 topic because of the fact that there is so much obfuscation. 1921 01:44:58.319 --> 01:45:01.000 You know, there's a liberal I feel like it's really 1922 01:45:01.880 --> 01:45:05.319 there's too many liberal archaeologists like these two and sort 1923 01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:08.039 of speak out, but there's not enough more conservative or 1924 01:45:08.119 --> 01:45:11.439 rationalists like realistic archaeologist out there to speak out. And 1925 01:45:12.119 --> 01:45:14.960 that's why you're gaining conflicts. I'm noticing a divide. Yeah 1926 01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:18.800 on Dandy de Dunker or Graham or Jimmy for Bright. 1927 01:45:19.079 --> 01:45:21.520 Inside there are a lot of them are right leaning, 1928 01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:24.680 and then you're encountering more than left leaning academics and 1929 01:45:24.720 --> 01:45:26.640 you're colliding, and there's not too many centrists like me 1930 01:45:27.359 --> 01:45:29.800 to speak out say yes, there really was an Atlantis 1931 01:45:29.920 --> 01:45:31.960 and definitely has something to do with the Middle East, 1932 01:45:32.840 --> 01:45:35.680 and it's broabably Egypt, because as Robert Ravow said, or 1933 01:45:36.159 --> 01:45:39.520 not Vow, what's the guy that went on Joe Rogan 1934 01:45:39.560 --> 01:45:42.439 that died. Oh he had the white beer and blanket 1935 01:45:42.479 --> 01:45:44.520 out of his name, but he was saying that, you 1936 01:45:44.560 --> 01:45:47.199 know there there basically was an Atlantis. To Joe Rogan, 1937 01:45:47.239 --> 01:45:50.119 it has something to do with Egypt. I think it 1938 01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:53.720 was oh man like it. I was sorry, but I 1939 01:45:53.960 --> 01:45:58.000 agree with Robert vow and others that Egypt could be older, 1940 01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:01.199 because I do see artifacts that do have margin of errors. 1941 01:46:01.439 --> 01:46:03.399 The dates of the Exus has a margin of error, 1942 01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:05.840 Santerni has a margin of error. So when you add 1943 01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:09.359 all these up, yes, there is something off with the 1944 01:46:09.880 --> 01:46:13.760 dating records on things, and our chelcion should be open 1945 01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:15.520 to that. But they do ignore the fact that, yeah, 1946 01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:19.359 actually Santerni could be one thousand, six hundred and sixty 1947 01:46:19.399 --> 01:46:21.800 eight BC or one thousand seven RBC. Is there a 1948 01:46:21.840 --> 01:46:25.399 connection with the Indos Valley migration and collapse? And they say, well, well, 1949 01:46:25.439 --> 01:46:27.840 we want to get to that because it complicates things. Well, yeah, 1950 01:46:27.920 --> 01:46:31.119 it might complicate things. Okay, let's actually look at Platoon 1951 01:46:31.119 --> 01:46:35.319 and see there is some historical historicity that's shaping his worldview. 1952 01:46:35.800 --> 01:46:39.199 Real things. Elephants are real, the sun is real. The 1953 01:46:39.319 --> 01:46:42.479 gods are real to some extent. They call them UAPs 1954 01:46:42.640 --> 01:46:45.680 or angels and demons. Could they be aliens? The evidence 1955 01:46:45.800 --> 01:46:48.760 isn't strong enough yep for that. So let's go to 1956 01:46:48.840 --> 01:46:50.399 the last slide and I'll just kind of end it here. 1957 01:46:55.960 --> 01:46:59.760 Let's see, Yeah, so, for example, I'm definitely open to 1958 01:46:59.840 --> 01:47:03.760 the possibility of something even more macro than the story 1959 01:47:03.760 --> 01:47:06.560 of players Atlantis, like, could there have been a lossivization 1960 01:47:06.640 --> 01:47:09.479 at fifty five million years ago? Yes, Doctor Flint, Devil 1961 01:47:09.520 --> 01:47:12.319 and Miano should be open to that possibility, because when 1962 01:47:12.359 --> 01:47:15.640 you're going back fifty five million years ago now entropy 1963 01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:20.439 has enough time to completely alter things. Oil would be replenished, 1964 01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:23.920 so it wouldn't be just depleted. It takes about fifty 1965 01:47:24.239 --> 01:47:26.840 about thirty to fifty million years for that to be replenished. 1966 01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:30.600 So it's a possibility Mount Rushmore would be completely gone. Okay, 1967 01:47:31.319 --> 01:47:34.560 crazy Horse monument as well. So yeah, things could completely 1968 01:47:34.720 --> 01:47:37.840 rode by that timescale, but not just within the past 1969 01:47:37.920 --> 01:47:40.439 twelve thousand and fifteen thousand years, No, or even one 1970 01:47:40.520 --> 01:47:43.680 hundred thousand years. Mount Rushmore would still exist two hundred 1971 01:47:43.680 --> 01:47:46.000 thousand years from now. It would be hard to notice it, 1972 01:47:46.119 --> 01:47:50.640 but you could see some stylistic carving on it. So 1973 01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:52.760 but if you want to even go bigger, you could 1974 01:47:52.800 --> 01:47:56.880 say even the pre Carnian Peluvian event two hundred and 1975 01:47:56.880 --> 01:48:00.600 thirty million years ago, a massive extinction event completely wiped 1976 01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:03.039 off the civilization, a massive rain event that happened there. 1977 01:48:03.159 --> 01:48:05.560 But it has nothing to do with any biblical stories, 1978 01:48:05.600 --> 01:48:10.000 Plato stories, nothing at all. Completely disconnected. Same thing with Venus. 1979 01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:13.000 There's a real possibility that Venus could have been just 1980 01:48:13.119 --> 01:48:15.920 like our more so than Mars because the sun was 1981 01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:19.359 smaller and then it was more in the habitab zone, 1982 01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:21.479 and Venus may have actually had a moon, and the 1983 01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:25.119 hypothesis is that moon may have been mercury. If that's 1984 01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:28.760 the case, there's a high probability Venus would have had 1985 01:48:28.800 --> 01:48:31.119 a civilization because they now have detected according to the 1986 01:48:31.159 --> 01:48:35.359 Japanese spaces and She that they found granite to detect 1987 01:48:35.399 --> 01:48:39.119 the chemical signature of granite and phosphe So it's looking 1988 01:48:39.520 --> 01:48:42.319 very likely there's a possibility that, you know, if Venus 1989 01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:44.399 has a civilization, Now, what does that mean with the 1990 01:48:44.479 --> 01:48:49.199 whole aspect of religion and the supernatural and paranormal things, 1991 01:48:49.479 --> 01:48:52.920 because it shows that you know, this idea of Jesus, 1992 01:48:53.119 --> 01:48:55.520 like is he an avatar? What do we mean by avatar? 1993 01:48:55.680 --> 01:48:58.800 Is the debate on whether he's an interdimensional being? How 1994 01:48:58.880 --> 01:49:01.680 many Jesuses have their or is there different angels or 1995 01:49:01.840 --> 01:49:04.680 being interventional beings for every planet. But they're not the 1996 01:49:04.720 --> 01:49:08.039 same being. So this does have a theological implication in 1997 01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:10.800 the long run, which I'm open to. But we gotta 1998 01:49:10.840 --> 01:49:13.640 wait until they send those satellites back to Venus, which 1999 01:49:13.720 --> 01:49:15.840 Japan and Russia are gonna do in the twenty thirties, 2000 01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:18.800 and it's gonna change the conversation big time in the 2001 01:49:18.880 --> 01:49:21.600 late twenty thirties, I would say, and I would definitely 2002 01:49:21.640 --> 01:49:23.520 be open, like C. S. Lewis was open to the 2003 01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:28.079 possibility that Venus could have had a loss civilization. And now, okay, 2004 01:49:28.119 --> 01:49:31.960 it wasn't gonna be within our timeline, but hundreds of 2005 01:49:32.039 --> 01:49:35.560 millions of years ago, because right now NASA's only found 2006 01:49:35.640 --> 01:49:39.399 about twelve out of six thousand exoplants may be considered 2007 01:49:39.479 --> 01:49:43.199 super howpable, but that only means it has plants, doesn't 2008 01:49:43.239 --> 01:49:45.520 mean it has a civilization, because our civilization is like 2009 01:49:45.560 --> 01:49:48.119 a blipin time on Earth, so we don't it's hard 2010 01:49:48.159 --> 01:49:50.920 to line up space and time. Venus is so close 2011 01:49:50.960 --> 01:49:54.439 to us, but they're separated by time. So there really 2012 01:49:54.560 --> 01:49:57.840 are probably extraterrestrials, but they're probably stuck on their Garden 2013 01:49:57.880 --> 01:50:01.560 of Eden, just as we are. And that's the sad reality. 2014 01:50:01.680 --> 01:50:05.680 Probably the Fermi paradox Chewy is a thing, and the 2015 01:50:05.720 --> 01:50:08.680 great filters, and we're not gonna Carl Sagan said, you 2016 01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:11.399 know arsivilization is like one second of three hundred and 2017 01:50:11.439 --> 01:50:13.600 sixty five days of the Earth's lifespan. What happens in 2018 01:50:13.640 --> 01:50:16.079 that next second, We're gonna just be gone, and maybe 2019 01:50:16.119 --> 01:50:18.359 two hundred million years later another one pops up your 2020 01:50:18.399 --> 01:50:23.039 backyard squirrel evolves to be the next hominid. It could recycle, 2021 01:50:23.159 --> 01:50:25.960 but it's gonna have to be a larger scale, not 2022 01:50:26.119 --> 01:50:28.560 sure scale, as Randall Carlson, Graham Hancock kind of want 2023 01:50:28.560 --> 01:50:30.439 to believe on the recycling of civilization. 2024 01:50:31.159 --> 01:50:34.479 Do you believe in homind carsonization? This is a theory 2025 01:50:34.520 --> 01:50:37.159 I'm coming up with. So you've got all these crabs 2026 01:50:37.439 --> 01:50:39.760 that are not the same as like each other. They're 2027 01:50:39.800 --> 01:50:43.239 different species of crabs, but they all look like crabs, right, 2028 01:50:43.479 --> 01:50:45.880 They're all shaped in the same way because of carsonization, 2029 01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:49.159 where everything that gets to that level of evolution starts 2030 01:50:49.199 --> 01:50:51.079 to look like a crab. Well, what if there's a 2031 01:50:51.119 --> 01:50:54.680 hominid version of that where everybody, every ape or whatever 2032 01:50:54.880 --> 01:50:57.199 that gets to this level of evolution starts to look 2033 01:50:57.279 --> 01:50:57.800 like a human. 2034 01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:01.880 Yes, and I think there's a high positive the dinoceroid hypothsis. So, 2035 01:51:02.039 --> 01:51:03.880 like fifty five million years ago, is there a possible 2036 01:51:03.880 --> 01:51:06.920 ability that Trodon would evolve to look more hominid like. 2037 01:51:07.279 --> 01:51:09.760 And yeah, because there's some basic laws of physics. You 2038 01:51:09.920 --> 01:51:13.840 need at least four fingers, and it's some kind of 2039 01:51:13.840 --> 01:51:16.119 an external appendage at a certain angle to be able 2040 01:51:16.119 --> 01:51:18.239 to grasp a tool in the right way, to be 2041 01:51:18.399 --> 01:51:21.119 amzi diictrous, or you know, be able to write and 2042 01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:24.760 maneuver material in a more efficient manner than like, you know, 2043 01:51:24.880 --> 01:51:27.439 a dog can't. A dog can't write. It doesn't have 2044 01:51:27.600 --> 01:51:29.600 the right anatomy of at all. It has to be 2045 01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:32.199 the right form. So this is why instead of calling 2046 01:51:32.239 --> 01:51:35.960 intelligent design, I would say intelligent programming. And that's mainly 2047 01:51:36.079 --> 01:51:40.359 due to the anthropic principle, Like the way the laws 2048 01:51:40.399 --> 01:51:44.640 of physics works inevitably leads to a natural form that 2049 01:51:45.039 --> 01:51:47.159 is made in the so called image and likeness of 2050 01:51:47.239 --> 01:51:50.439 the gods. Now, again, the gods are purely spiritual that 2051 01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:52.720 could take av to our forms. But is there a 2052 01:51:52.760 --> 01:51:56.920 possibility that these so called UAPs are not just immortal 2053 01:51:57.039 --> 01:52:00.960 gods that were always immortal, but the hyphpods that maybe 2054 01:52:01.079 --> 01:52:04.800 they were from planets and then they become a god. 2055 01:52:04.880 --> 01:52:07.920 Because that's what the Egyptians believe that humans become a god, 2056 01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:10.359 but a small g god, not the big cosmic one, 2057 01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:13.159 but you move up the ranks of the of the 2058 01:52:13.239 --> 01:52:17.680 heavens and a higher evolutionary spiritual form, I guess, And 2059 01:52:17.840 --> 01:52:20.479 that's a possibility that some of these UAPs we experienced, 2060 01:52:20.840 --> 01:52:24.079 maybe entities that were born from Venus a billion years 2061 01:52:24.119 --> 01:52:27.239 ago and now they're immortal and flying around screwing around 2062 01:52:27.319 --> 01:52:30.159 with us. That's a weird way to look at but 2063 01:52:30.159 --> 01:52:33.760 I think there's one NASA professor or NASA administrator was 2064 01:52:33.760 --> 01:52:35.960 talking with Diana Pasoka and was kind of bringing up 2065 01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:40.079 that idea sort of, but that's out there, and I'm 2066 01:52:40.159 --> 01:52:43.399 open to that possibility that because you know, people say 2067 01:52:43.479 --> 01:52:47.159 that Mary is manifesting as something like a UAP, and 2068 01:52:47.199 --> 01:52:50.920 then you get this pentagondactmaent called the Immaculate Constellation, a 2069 01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:53.000 wink wink to the Virgin Mary. I'm like, why are 2070 01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:55.279 they doing that? And then you make me want make 2071 01:52:55.319 --> 01:52:57.560 you wonder. Okay, is Mary a god? What do we 2072 01:52:57.640 --> 01:53:00.079 define as a god? Is she an angel? What we 2073 01:53:00.199 --> 01:53:04.079 define as an angel, what's considered immortal? So the hierarchy 2074 01:53:04.239 --> 01:53:07.439 and nature of angels is is pretty complicated. It comes 2075 01:53:07.520 --> 01:53:10.640 down to basically their power level. In some sense, they're 2076 01:53:10.720 --> 01:53:12.880 not all equal in their power, and they go up 2077 01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:15.680 the rank, up the ladder. So some may truly have 2078 01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:19.359 been from Venus for all we know. But they're no longer, 2079 01:53:19.680 --> 01:53:21.920 you know, humans, They're not depending on the planet anymore. 2080 01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:25.119 They have become transcendent to a higher reality. 2081 01:53:26.920 --> 01:53:30.840 I guess you'd have to believe in space to agree 2082 01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:35.319 with that closing statement. But I mean, I'm not I'm 2083 01:53:35.359 --> 01:53:37.520 not trying to like gang up on you or anything. 2084 01:53:37.840 --> 01:53:40.760 I really enjoy presentations like this. I mean, there's been 2085 01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:44.960 some real rock stars in the comments section tonight. Maybe 2086 01:53:45.039 --> 01:53:48.760 this is somebody from you, Jules nephlum Hunter zero zero seven, 2087 01:53:48.920 --> 01:53:49.439 Is that from you? 2088 01:53:49.720 --> 01:53:49.960 Yeah? 2089 01:53:50.119 --> 01:53:54.039 Yeah, all right, I wonder well, fucking I like this 2090 01:53:54.239 --> 01:53:56.079 fucking guy retarded. 2091 01:53:56.840 --> 01:53:59.239 That's all right with me, because so am I right? 2092 01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:06.000 But yeah, you know, I think multiple things could be 2093 01:54:06.119 --> 01:54:12.520 true at the same time. This is really interesting. I 2094 01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:18.680 do still think that Atlantis could possibly have existed at 2095 01:54:18.720 --> 01:54:24.359 one time. Maybe it's a advanced civilization, maybe it wasn't, but. 2096 01:54:26.039 --> 01:54:30.960 Definitely pretty advanced relative to Greeks and the Romans. But 2097 01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:34.399 I mean pyramids, Yeah, yeah. 2098 01:54:34.479 --> 01:54:38.359 That that's the thing though, that you and I skiz 2099 01:54:38.439 --> 01:54:41.479 them on is I think like they had some help, 2100 01:54:43.039 --> 01:54:45.439 like not ropes and pulleys and ship like that, but 2101 01:54:45.640 --> 01:54:51.439 like levitation and uh you know that. 2102 01:54:52.439 --> 01:54:54.319 But what if the gods don't give you that power. 2103 01:54:54.640 --> 01:54:58.199 We don't know how much power might actually give us. 2104 01:54:58.239 --> 01:54:59.880 They might say, go ahead and slave away and use 2105 01:55:00.039 --> 01:55:02.079 ropes and pulleys. We're not gonna help you. Why should 2106 01:55:02.079 --> 01:55:02.359 they care. 2107 01:55:02.399 --> 01:55:04.640 Whether someone figured it out or I don't know, what 2108 01:55:04.720 --> 01:55:07.239 if they were passed down this knowledge and a download 2109 01:55:07.399 --> 01:55:09.600 or a vision or maybe. 2110 01:55:11.319 --> 01:55:12.119 On the gods. 2111 01:55:12.359 --> 01:55:14.880 What if the gods created the theory? You know, there's 2112 01:55:14.960 --> 01:55:17.399 those theories as well, Like there's lots. 2113 01:55:17.199 --> 01:55:20.520 Of eaves to say that I'm open to the possibility. 2114 01:55:20.560 --> 01:55:23.960 Like there's someone on Twitter name third Eyed Seekhs and 2115 01:55:24.039 --> 01:55:26.159 third Ied Sekhs, and I are kind of I don't 2116 01:55:26.159 --> 01:55:27.800 know if you guys know him, but he goes around 2117 01:55:28.159 --> 01:55:30.920 last year and talks about how the pyramids are kind 2118 01:55:30.920 --> 01:55:33.079 of built and the possibility that they had to use 2119 01:55:33.159 --> 01:55:36.560 more advanced levers and cranes and pulleys at the level 2120 01:55:36.640 --> 01:55:39.800 of Rome or Persia so and that some of that 2121 01:55:39.920 --> 01:55:42.640 knowledge was lost and then rediscovered by the Romans and 2122 01:55:42.680 --> 01:55:44.600 the Persians. So they actually were a little bit more 2123 01:55:44.640 --> 01:55:47.560 advanced because the technologies and the techniques they would have 2124 01:55:47.640 --> 01:55:49.399 used would been very similar to how they built the 2125 01:55:49.439 --> 01:55:53.159 cathedrals of Europe. So how the Masons built that is 2126 01:55:53.239 --> 01:55:56.640 probably what they've learned from how the Egyptians built their temples. 2127 01:55:57.840 --> 01:56:00.479 So they probably had cranes, they had poison left, but 2128 01:56:00.560 --> 01:56:03.039 in a complicated form. So if you look up, for example, 2129 01:56:03.520 --> 01:56:08.039 the image of the Cleopatches needle in Central Park that 2130 01:56:08.119 --> 01:56:11.680 the Freemasons had had moved, they had this giant scaffolding 2131 01:56:12.279 --> 01:56:15.119 let not levitating but suspending it in a folk grum, 2132 01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:18.039 the whole obelisk, and they could tilt it with ropes 2133 01:56:18.079 --> 01:56:21.319 and different poison. They use metal, of course, and horses, 2134 01:56:21.840 --> 01:56:25.079 hundreds of horses, and it was a complicated thing, and 2135 01:56:25.199 --> 01:56:27.840 they did it, and then the Vatican did the same thing, 2136 01:56:27.920 --> 01:56:30.760 and the column in Saint Petersburg did the same thing. 2137 01:56:30.960 --> 01:56:33.880 But it was a complicated system. Wasn't just a bunch 2138 01:56:33.920 --> 01:56:36.359 of people pulling with ropes, No, they had to develop 2139 01:56:36.359 --> 01:56:41.520 an architectural scaffolding system with mechanical advantages to be able 2140 01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:44.760 to move this whole thing, even wheels. So yeah, I 2141 01:56:44.800 --> 01:56:48.199 think the Egyptians had more yes, exactly the Egyptians because 2142 01:56:48.760 --> 01:56:53.239 pictures like that, that's no, no, that's that is a 2143 01:56:55.119 --> 01:56:56.880 not that's not the original picture. That's a scan. 2144 01:56:58.159 --> 01:57:01.039 That's that's the original picture that they skid. But that's 2145 01:57:01.079 --> 01:57:04.640 a real picture. See, No, it looks like the people 2146 01:57:04.680 --> 01:57:06.960 in the foreground. This is eighteen eighty one. I believe 2147 01:57:07.119 --> 01:57:09.279 it looks like the people in the foreground. Now, that's 2148 01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:10.159 definitely a drawing. 2149 01:57:10.239 --> 01:57:13.359 But yeah, this is this is a redrawing of that picture. Yeah, 2150 01:57:13.359 --> 01:57:16.399 there's another one, but there's a calm in Alexandria too, 2151 01:57:16.479 --> 01:57:17.560 you can look up that. But a lot of them 2152 01:57:17.560 --> 01:57:20.520 are drawings. Yes, but because you know, they didn't have 2153 01:57:20.560 --> 01:57:22.319 photography back then, so sure. 2154 01:57:22.560 --> 01:57:26.000 Because it didn't fucking happen that way, and they had 2155 01:57:26.079 --> 01:57:28.159 to draw some ship up to make you think that 2156 01:57:28.279 --> 01:57:30.560 they built it when they fucking didn't build it at all. 2157 01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:33.279 Anyways, they did, That's how. That's when I moved it. 2158 01:57:34.239 --> 01:57:35.439 That's what I'm saying about this. 2159 01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:36.279 You got it. 2160 01:57:36.920 --> 01:57:39.319 That's what I'm saying, though, is you got You said 2161 01:57:39.439 --> 01:57:40.720 not everything is a conspiracy. 2162 01:57:40.800 --> 01:57:41.640 What I'm telling you is it? 2163 01:57:41.800 --> 01:57:48.840 Fucking is any every little thing is a CONSPIASI I 2164 01:57:49.399 --> 01:57:50.279 wear anything. 2165 01:57:50.600 --> 01:57:51.239 Yeah, look at. 2166 01:57:51.479 --> 01:57:54.520 Where they're they're picking it up. This is a real photo, right, 2167 01:57:54.600 --> 01:57:58.000 but it doesn't show it in and it doesn't show 2168 01:57:58.000 --> 01:57:58.960 they're putting it on the boat. 2169 01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:04.520 I don't have video camera back then, the cameras they had, 2170 01:58:07.800 --> 01:58:10.119 but you don't trust that photo. It comes down to 2171 01:58:10.239 --> 01:58:12.560 your trust if you don't trust in basic society. 2172 01:58:15.119 --> 01:58:16.000 Here's another drawing. 2173 01:58:16.439 --> 01:58:17.840 That's drawing. 2174 01:58:18.359 --> 01:58:21.319 But what what the camera back then? 2175 01:58:22.720 --> 01:58:24.800 There weren't that many cameras back then. Of course you 2176 01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:25.800 have to be a little bit. 2177 01:58:26.720 --> 01:58:31.520 People came right, Yeah, there's a drug, right, so you 2178 01:58:31.560 --> 01:58:31.840 guys a. 2179 01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:35.000 Bunch of communists, the elites, the elites just. 2180 01:58:37.279 --> 01:58:37.880 What we see. 2181 01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:43.119 There are some conspiracies. U aps definitely have been hidden 2182 01:58:43.159 --> 01:58:46.680 from us intentionally, and it's understandable, I think to some degree. 2183 01:58:47.439 --> 01:58:51.439 Well here's the picture, right, that's a real Now. 2184 01:58:51.560 --> 01:58:53.840 You know what's funny is that you think some of 2185 01:58:53.920 --> 01:58:56.880 the stuff we think is so silly, But I actually 2186 01:58:56.960 --> 01:59:00.000 think that you're listening to lou Alexandre was fucking ridiculous. 2187 01:59:01.159 --> 01:59:06.000 That's not just again, he wasn't even in in the 2188 01:59:06.159 --> 01:59:13.479 know until someone in the state. Yeah, what about David 2189 01:59:13.560 --> 01:59:19.159 Crush It is a ship. 2190 01:59:19.279 --> 01:59:21.399 I mean, would they allow them to speak if they 2191 01:59:21.479 --> 01:59:23.479 weren't in on it. Man, I mean, look at history. 2192 01:59:23.640 --> 01:59:26.600 You're correct what we've seen in the past, name Greek, 2193 01:59:27.319 --> 01:59:30.079 different career. Yeah, you guys are. 2194 01:59:33.119 --> 01:59:33.319 Yeah. 2195 01:59:33.359 --> 01:59:36.279 He was very closely tied into the Clinton administration, like 2196 01:59:36.479 --> 01:59:38.800 all of his agree stuff back in the nineties, were 2197 01:59:38.960 --> 01:59:41.800 very close to the government, and that was his message. 2198 01:59:42.119 --> 01:59:43.359 It seems really ridiculous. 2199 01:59:43.399 --> 01:59:43.520 Now. 2200 01:59:43.560 --> 01:59:46.800 Look, yeah, the whole U a p topic. It's definitely 2201 01:59:46.960 --> 01:59:50.119 a top down approach. It's the people at the very 2202 01:59:50.199 --> 01:59:53.079 top who want to disclose it. It started under the 2203 01:59:53.159 --> 01:59:57.359 Obama administration. Obama must have signed something to give them, 2204 01:59:57.479 --> 02:00:01.079 give the Geospatial Intelligence Agency Claire to begin the process 2205 02:00:01.319 --> 02:00:04.680 because it's that institution that holds the servers that have 2206 02:00:05.239 --> 02:00:08.520 the classified videos from the eighties and the nineties and 2207 02:00:08.560 --> 02:00:11.720 so forth. So sure, I agree, it's definitely top down. 2208 02:00:11.840 --> 02:00:15.640 All these officers they cannot publicly speak without permission from 2209 02:00:15.680 --> 02:00:19.880 the superiors. I agree. But yes, it's from the top down, 2210 02:00:20.279 --> 02:00:25.000 because the Pentagon knows they can't control the phenomenon. What 2211 02:00:25.119 --> 02:00:28.640 happens if the phenomenon does do something that's ontological, like 2212 02:00:28.720 --> 02:00:30.560 in twenty eleven over the Dome of the Rock in 2213 02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:33.840 Jerusalem that was a real event, and Fox News just 2214 02:00:33.920 --> 02:00:36.479 kind of showed the wrong video and CNN just that 2215 02:00:36.680 --> 02:00:39.359 it's probably just something fake. But there are five different 2216 02:00:39.359 --> 02:00:42.800 angles of that shot in twenty eleven. Something happened over 2217 02:00:42.880 --> 02:00:43.840 there and after. 2218 02:00:43.840 --> 02:00:46.760 That event that I think so too. I think that 2219 02:00:46.960 --> 02:00:47.800 was some real shit. 2220 02:00:48.520 --> 02:00:51.119 Yeah, the Obam administration said, Okay, maybe we should begin 2221 02:00:51.159 --> 02:00:53.760 the process of disclosure because we can't hide the phenomenon 2222 02:00:53.840 --> 02:00:57.319 because the phenomenon is going to people like me. And now, 2223 02:00:57.399 --> 02:00:59.520 in my case, I didn't get on video because the 2224 02:00:59.560 --> 02:01:02.159 phenomenon happened to be too sneaky and clever and realized 2225 02:01:02.199 --> 02:01:04.359 I wanted to get on video and wouldn't let me. 2226 02:01:04.680 --> 02:01:07.880 Sounds like an excuse, but these entities are very sneaky, 2227 02:01:08.279 --> 02:01:12.960 very deceptive, and they're very powerful relative to us. So yeah, 2228 02:01:13.039 --> 02:01:15.880 it's very hard to prove the existence of interdimensional beings. 2229 02:01:15.920 --> 02:01:18.439 But we now have cameras for the first time ever 2230 02:01:18.680 --> 02:01:21.600 on this planet in the past hundred years, and they're 2231 02:01:21.640 --> 02:01:25.000 starting to appear. The veil is lifting. The Pentagon has 2232 02:01:25.079 --> 02:01:27.439 to prepare for that. It's not just the Pentagon, it's Japan. 2233 02:01:28.079 --> 02:01:30.319 I think these people that run the Pentagon have been 2234 02:01:30.439 --> 02:01:32.000 channeling these beings. 2235 02:01:33.800 --> 02:01:37.760 Periods ready can't control them. Well, the Nazis tried it 2236 02:01:38.159 --> 02:01:40.920 and they failed. Well, Nazis got screwed by the Gin. 2237 02:01:41.920 --> 02:01:44.960 Yeah, it's not just the Nazis, it's it's every uh 2238 02:01:45.279 --> 02:01:49.319 you know, you would say political organization or who has 2239 02:01:49.439 --> 02:01:50.439 power at the time. 2240 02:01:52.119 --> 02:01:54.119 In the eighteen hundreds, they did. I think there was 2241 02:01:54.119 --> 02:01:56.000 an attempt to try to see if they can summon 2242 02:01:56.079 --> 02:01:58.880 these entities using so called psionics to gain some kind 2243 02:01:58.920 --> 02:02:01.800 of power. The Nazis, we're definitely doing this, and Americans 2244 02:02:01.920 --> 02:02:05.399 learned it from the Nazis. But ultimately the Vatican is 2245 02:02:05.439 --> 02:02:08.720 saying you can't control the gods. Plato said that you 2246 02:02:08.840 --> 02:02:11.600 can't control the gods. Don't trust the damn gods because 2247 02:02:11.600 --> 02:02:14.199 they will mess with you. And they absolutely do, because 2248 02:02:14.239 --> 02:02:17.000 fifty percent of them are basically purely demonic and the 2249 02:02:17.079 --> 02:02:19.600 other fifty percent are very discreet and sneaky, but they 2250 02:02:19.600 --> 02:02:22.079 don't want to show themselves fully. Majors of bold plasma 2251 02:02:22.159 --> 02:02:24.720 like al shape ship into Metal. But I talked about 2252 02:02:24.720 --> 02:02:26.560 this on Reverse Channel a lot. We have a whole 2253 02:02:27.399 --> 02:02:29.520 two hours of this, so you guys can check that 2254 02:02:29.680 --> 02:02:30.800 out on Reverse Channel. 2255 02:02:32.800 --> 02:02:35.199 Well, we're back to the gods. I think that's the 2256 02:02:35.319 --> 02:02:38.479 important part. I think we're all integret saying that. 2257 02:02:38.800 --> 02:02:42.359 But what's the I'm a Christian and I'm here for it. 2258 02:02:42.640 --> 02:02:48.359 You know, I've been saying that this angel that's yeah, on. 2259 02:02:48.359 --> 02:02:52.039 The side, but yeah, yeah, I mean for. 2260 02:02:52.039 --> 02:02:54.319 Two thousand years that they didn't exist, and now we're 2261 02:02:54.359 --> 02:02:56.439 back to it. They killed millions and millions of people 2262 02:02:56.680 --> 02:02:59.640 telling them that the gods didn't Well, actually, did you 2263 02:02:59.760 --> 02:03:00.800 hear kind of interesting? 2264 02:03:00.880 --> 02:03:02.159 Now, did you hear? 2265 02:03:02.199 --> 02:03:05.439 What's his name? Carl Carlnell? Carln Nell spoke at the 2266 02:03:05.520 --> 02:03:09.079 SAUL conference. He basically said, it's not really a discovery, 2267 02:03:09.199 --> 02:03:12.520 it's more like a rediscovery of these entities. He didn't 2268 02:03:12.520 --> 02:03:15.279 call them gods. He's trying to avoid religious terminology intentionally, 2269 02:03:15.600 --> 02:03:17.600 but he's saying it wouldn't be that shocking for the 2270 02:03:17.640 --> 02:03:20.840 average Christian or Muslim or even Buddhists because they believed 2271 02:03:20.840 --> 02:03:23.359 in this stuff. Because back in the old days, summoning 2272 02:03:23.439 --> 02:03:26.920 the gods for warfare was a common thing. I mean, 2273 02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:29.079 it was just like you just didn't know how to 2274 02:03:29.199 --> 02:03:29.479 prove it. 2275 02:03:31.720 --> 02:03:35.359 They invade countries on certain days during a certain perment year, 2276 02:03:35.600 --> 02:03:39.560 they they planned out. These old gods are still implicated 2277 02:03:39.600 --> 02:03:46.800 and every day goings on. Brother, you can see who 2278 02:03:46.840 --> 02:03:49.439 they venerate through the symbolism, and it's it's very easy 2279 02:03:49.520 --> 02:03:51.279 to tell you should you should look into some of it. 2280 02:03:51.359 --> 02:03:51.560 Brother. 2281 02:03:51.960 --> 02:03:55.199 Well that's why all the ancient cultures like that in. 2282 02:03:55.199 --> 02:03:58.399 This stuff, dude, you should look into esoteric symbolism and 2283 02:03:58.600 --> 02:04:00.920 all the accade I've listened to definitely worth it. 2284 02:04:01.439 --> 02:04:01.720 Well that. 2285 02:04:04.319 --> 02:04:07.199 All the all the ancient civilizations that you're talking about, 2286 02:04:07.239 --> 02:04:10.720 Go becklay Tepe, the karen Tepe place that was nearby, 2287 02:04:10.840 --> 02:04:14.039 Go becklay Tepe, all these fucking blood pits and ship 2288 02:04:14.199 --> 02:04:15.399 and the Egyptians, and they. 2289 02:04:15.319 --> 02:04:17.119 Were all sacrificed and fucking. 2290 02:04:17.159 --> 02:04:19.760 Even Graham Pancok's like, look at this, look at this 2291 02:04:19.920 --> 02:04:20.760 odd structure. 2292 02:04:20.800 --> 02:04:21.960 It looks like a blood pit. 2293 02:04:22.159 --> 02:04:24.760 Yeah, because they were all doing some fucking weird battylon 2294 02:04:25.199 --> 02:04:30.199 fucking sacrificing babies and ship. They all wanted to consort 2295 02:04:30.479 --> 02:04:35.479 with some type of weird entity and the aztext and 2296 02:04:35.600 --> 02:04:37.399 the fucking blood rituals. 2297 02:04:37.479 --> 02:04:39.840 I mean, they all, they all did it, and they were. 2298 02:04:41.960 --> 02:04:45.239 Because the. 2299 02:04:49.039 --> 02:04:51.920 Skyscrapers Washington they still do. 2300 02:04:52.319 --> 02:04:54.479 They still do that ship. It's just covered. 2301 02:04:56.560 --> 02:05:01.199 In the US, the government is run by Satanic fucking 2302 02:05:01.279 --> 02:05:04.319 pedophile and they. 2303 02:05:06.279 --> 02:05:09.800 In Washington, d C. Alone that why would they keep 2304 02:05:10.199 --> 02:05:12.800 that knowledge and then put that into the streets unless 2305 02:05:12.800 --> 02:05:15.560 there was something more to it than just because. 2306 02:05:15.359 --> 02:05:16.640 They believe Atlantis was Egypt. 2307 02:05:17.319 --> 02:05:21.880 They believe they believe that. 2308 02:05:22.880 --> 02:05:26.479 Yeah, they believe America was like the new Atlantis, the 2309 02:05:26.600 --> 02:05:27.119 new Rome. 2310 02:05:28.359 --> 02:05:30.439 Yeah, the new Rome right New York. 2311 02:05:31.000 --> 02:05:33.840 You know. Yeah, Yeah, it's all just European culture being 2312 02:05:33.840 --> 02:05:36.880 inherited over here. I mean, that's natural. It comes the 2313 02:05:36.880 --> 02:05:39.239 same thing with Chinese culture and being inherited by Japan. 2314 02:05:40.000 --> 02:05:42.199 But that's not really a phenomenon. 2315 02:05:42.960 --> 02:05:45.119 We don't really have access to it anymore. Like they're 2316 02:05:45.159 --> 02:05:47.479 not teaching this stuff as being part of our history, 2317 02:05:47.600 --> 02:05:49.800 like the streets of Washington College. 2318 02:05:51.920 --> 02:05:52.960 I wouldn't put so much. 2319 02:05:54.680 --> 02:05:56.880 I wouldn't put so much faith in college either, man. 2320 02:05:56.960 --> 02:06:02.520 I look, but you know, we just. 2321 02:06:04.520 --> 02:06:09.399 There Uels is something that to influence America. Definitely, that's 2322 02:06:09.439 --> 02:06:12.119 not they don't talk about. But they're not as it 2323 02:06:12.239 --> 02:06:12.479 used to be. 2324 02:06:13.560 --> 02:06:16.319 Well, there's there's a point to that. They're cutting us 2325 02:06:16.359 --> 02:06:18.520 off from that knowledge and they're keeping it for themselves. 2326 02:06:18.560 --> 02:06:20.600 And that's what we constantly see over and over again 2327 02:06:20.680 --> 02:06:24.159 today with the very same organizations. So there is a 2328 02:06:24.279 --> 02:06:27.720 continuity there. We're left in the dark all the time, 2329 02:06:27.960 --> 02:06:29.680 and it's time that changes. We need to get a 2330 02:06:29.720 --> 02:06:32.279 little bit more respect from our government because they don't 2331 02:06:32.279 --> 02:06:35.279 really represent us at all. That's that's the issue that 2332 02:06:35.359 --> 02:06:38.520 everybody's sort of coming into, is that we're at a 2333 02:06:38.640 --> 02:06:39.239 point right now. 2334 02:06:42.239 --> 02:06:44.840 It's not just that it's like let met our souls 2335 02:06:44.880 --> 02:06:47.800 alone here, you know, we have to like when it 2336 02:06:47.840 --> 02:06:50.600 comes to who Atlantis war, in some sense, it hasn't 2337 02:06:50.640 --> 02:06:54.640 really ended because it's still being invoked with Israel because 2338 02:06:54.760 --> 02:06:59.359 Israel is basically influenced by the Greek civilization and they're 2339 02:06:59.479 --> 02:07:02.000 sort of, you know, over the original Atlantean world and 2340 02:07:02.079 --> 02:07:04.399 they're still a collision there. But it's really it's not 2341 02:07:04.520 --> 02:07:08.880 conspiratorials that it's more geopolitical because the geography is so 2342 02:07:09.039 --> 02:07:13.439 shitty it forces wars. If you had open land, like 2343 02:07:13.640 --> 02:07:17.279 in the Midwest, you can force your way a lot 2344 02:07:17.359 --> 02:07:20.520 faster and unify that region if you have horses. I mean, 2345 02:07:20.760 --> 02:07:23.640 that's why then Americans couldn't conquer or fight back because 2346 02:07:23.680 --> 02:07:26.239 they didn't have enough horses, they didn't have enough guns, 2347 02:07:26.279 --> 02:07:28.279 they didn't have a big enough population. They're wiped out 2348 02:07:28.319 --> 02:07:32.199 by a disease, so they lost and that's because of geography. 2349 02:07:32.399 --> 02:07:35.680 Ultimately comes down to the landscape and geography that dictates 2350 02:07:35.720 --> 02:07:38.840 which civilization can be more powerful than another. That's why 2351 02:07:38.920 --> 02:07:40.600 China is going to be very powerful because I got 2352 02:07:40.640 --> 02:07:42.840 a billion people. Because it comes down to the law 2353 02:07:42.880 --> 02:07:46.880 of natural selection, survival of the fitness. It's power politics ultimately, 2354 02:07:46.920 --> 02:07:49.359 and I learned that in the University of Iowa. And 2355 02:07:49.439 --> 02:07:52.239 it sucks that. You know, Yeah, Israel basically wants to 2356 02:07:52.319 --> 02:07:55.439 genocidally murder people out so they can gain more strategic 2357 02:07:56.000 --> 02:07:59.439 real estate put their hotels on. It's sad, but that's 2358 02:07:59.439 --> 02:08:03.159 the sad react. Well, I come down on this. 2359 02:08:03.800 --> 02:08:06.359 I would agree with Flint Dibble on this. The the 2360 02:08:06.439 --> 02:08:09.800 story about how the mound builders were wiped out by 2361 02:08:09.880 --> 02:08:15.119 these current Native Americans was a motivating factor in westward expansion, right. 2362 02:08:15.279 --> 02:08:18.279 They said that these people who built these mounds that 2363 02:08:18.520 --> 02:08:21.000 you know, they had all these cities based around, were 2364 02:08:21.079 --> 02:08:23.760 more like the Europeans and the people who wiped them 2365 02:08:23.800 --> 02:08:27.000 out were the Native Americans, So that gave us license 2366 02:08:27.560 --> 02:08:30.079 to expand westward. That was one of the big motivating 2367 02:08:30.159 --> 02:08:32.920 factors of that time period. And I think it did 2368 02:08:33.039 --> 02:08:35.800 because everybody knew of the stories of Atlantis, and they 2369 02:08:35.920 --> 02:08:41.680 understood that there were somehow a much wider Aryan civilization 2370 02:08:42.319 --> 02:08:44.880 that was sort of out there in the new world 2371 02:08:45.319 --> 02:08:47.039 that they were coming to. This was a lot of 2372 02:08:47.119 --> 02:08:48.760 the mythology that came. 2373 02:08:48.640 --> 02:08:48.960 Through the. 2374 02:08:50.840 --> 02:08:52.520 Perspective. Yes, Columbus sort of. 2375 02:08:56.000 --> 02:08:58.520 With the Knights Peplar, who are re emerging as a 2376 02:08:58.640 --> 02:09:02.680 factor now and all of this college. Yeah, yet they 2377 02:09:02.760 --> 02:09:05.319 were talking about that stuff, you know, that was there. 2378 02:09:05.760 --> 02:09:07.319 Yeah, it was an ideological thing. 2379 02:09:08.800 --> 02:09:12.159 The founding fathers were all into the Knights Templar stuff, 2380 02:09:12.199 --> 02:09:14.840 and we're even finding stuff like that today coming out 2381 02:09:14.840 --> 02:09:17.720 of these statues that they tore down back in twenty twenty. 2382 02:09:18.000 --> 02:09:20.640 They found post guards that had Knights Templar seals and 2383 02:09:20.720 --> 02:09:23.279 symbols on them. That was a huge factor in the 2384 02:09:23.399 --> 02:09:26.920 United States government. And we don't again the label, but. 2385 02:09:27.039 --> 02:09:31.399 Ultimately very much it's not it's not really the ideology 2386 02:09:31.520 --> 02:09:34.239 of just the Knights Templar or the free basis. It's 2387 02:09:34.319 --> 02:09:36.560 more the fact that there's a big river there that 2388 02:09:36.640 --> 02:09:38.880 has a lot of freaking water. We want that river, 2389 02:09:39.199 --> 02:09:41.680 get that river. So for that's why why do you 2390 02:09:41.720 --> 02:09:44.920 think Russia is invade in Ukraine, they want Didiaper River 2391 02:09:45.119 --> 02:09:47.239 and they're gonna conquer everything up to that river because 2392 02:09:47.760 --> 02:09:51.760 rivers strategic real estate or you know, resources. That's the 2393 02:09:51.880 --> 02:09:55.119 ultimate thing. So when Tuesday, oh, we're gonna we're gonna go, 2394 02:09:55.319 --> 02:09:58.680 you know, defend Israel and expand Israel because we Israel's 2395 02:09:58.720 --> 02:10:01.159 being attacked and all that. In reality, know, Israel just 2396 02:10:01.239 --> 02:10:04.600 wants to expand their border on prime real estate to 2397 02:10:04.720 --> 02:10:07.760 secure the state more, and they will murder people out 2398 02:10:07.760 --> 02:10:10.079 to do it. Doesn't matter if your democracy a communist 2399 02:10:10.119 --> 02:10:12.920 state or a fascist state. It ultimately is land is 2400 02:10:13.039 --> 02:10:16.640 forcing you to become dictatorial or fascist because of scarcity. 2401 02:10:17.520 --> 02:10:20.399 Because as Neil Degrass Tyson said, this planet is not 2402 02:10:20.520 --> 02:10:23.840 as habitable as people think. Only like twenty percent or 2403 02:10:23.960 --> 02:10:26.560 less of the land surface is apable. Imagine if that 2404 02:10:26.680 --> 02:10:29.279 was fifty percent, there wouldn't be as many wars because 2405 02:10:29.319 --> 02:10:31.960 you have more plentible resources. But the fact that you know, 2406 02:10:32.159 --> 02:10:34.720 fifty percent of the United States is desert and the 2407 02:10:34.760 --> 02:10:36.600 Middle East is pretty much all of desert except for 2408 02:10:36.680 --> 02:10:38.760 the Garden of En of Egypt and Atlantis. I guess 2409 02:10:38.760 --> 02:10:41.640 you could say, and you know, China's so confined in 2410 02:10:41.720 --> 02:10:45.680 that one region of the Yale River. It forces these 2411 02:10:45.800 --> 02:10:48.960 wars to happen because there's a scarcity. It's because the 2412 02:10:49.039 --> 02:10:54.119 scarcity that forces these geopolitical agendas. It's not just ideology. 2413 02:10:54.159 --> 02:10:57.760 Ideology is justification to go murder people, just as Catholics 2414 02:10:57.800 --> 02:10:58.159 did that we. 2415 02:10:58.600 --> 02:11:06.560 Digress the States was just Mason. Listen, Peter, Okay, I. 2416 02:11:06.560 --> 02:11:08.880 Don't agree with everything he says, but he's right. The 2417 02:11:08.920 --> 02:11:11.720 Earth is trying to kill us, and that's why there's 2418 02:11:11.760 --> 02:11:14.600 so much war, because we're fighting for primarial estate. That's 2419 02:11:14.600 --> 02:11:18.960 a logical argument. It's nothing conspiratorial. But there are conspiracy 2420 02:11:18.960 --> 02:11:22.960 that force that people make up to justify stealing land, 2421 02:11:23.159 --> 02:11:25.960 like the Israel wants to expand off to the Tigers River. 2422 02:11:26.319 --> 02:11:26.920 That's insane. 2423 02:11:28.279 --> 02:11:28.600 All right. 2424 02:11:30.760 --> 02:11:35.239 I've got right here the the Rosy Cross Order sixty 2425 02:11:35.279 --> 02:11:40.560 eighth Convocation of the Rosy Cross. This is in Pennsylvania. 2426 02:11:41.039 --> 02:11:43.880 That yeah, that's the Great Seal of the United States 2427 02:11:43.920 --> 02:11:48.960 being unveiled in this occult literature employers sixteen years. 2428 02:11:49.039 --> 02:11:50.119 But no, this isn't the Jews. 2429 02:11:50.119 --> 02:11:54.000 This is the Knights Duplar and the Rosicrucians and the Freemasons. 2430 02:11:54.039 --> 02:11:56.039 They all got together up in Pennsylvania and had this. 2431 02:11:56.439 --> 02:12:00.279 Six are Jews. I'll let you know that they're definitely, yeah, 2432 02:12:00.279 --> 02:12:00.479 I know. 2433 02:12:02.359 --> 02:12:06.199 It influenced by Yeah right again this book they talk 2434 02:12:06.239 --> 02:12:09.000 about Atlantis. Right, they talk about Atlantis and they say 2435 02:12:09.039 --> 02:12:12.520 that it stretches from Mexico all the way over to Africa. 2436 02:12:12.680 --> 02:12:14.640 This was their opinion on Atlantis. 2437 02:12:14.720 --> 02:12:15.880 And this was back in the ninetees. 2438 02:12:17.319 --> 02:12:17.479 I know. 2439 02:12:17.640 --> 02:12:22.039 But I'm saying, like this is within their mythology, and. 2440 02:12:23.520 --> 02:12:26.479 I mean that's just opinion, you know what I mean. 2441 02:12:26.960 --> 02:12:28.680 I mean it's like it's like the Israel things that 2442 02:12:28.720 --> 02:12:30.920 they're the chosen people of God. Well, the real chosen 2443 02:12:30.960 --> 02:12:34.079 people were the Egyptians, and the early Jews were Egyptians, 2444 02:12:34.119 --> 02:12:38.279 and they weren't you know, Ukrainians and Russians. Okay, that 2445 02:12:38.479 --> 02:12:42.760 moved to Israel. It's yeah. People will use ideologies and 2446 02:12:42.840 --> 02:12:47.520 shape and shape shifted to manipulate Geolin gains. So America, 2447 02:12:47.680 --> 02:12:50.680 because of Christopher clumb was naming the first islands the Antilles. 2448 02:12:51.119 --> 02:12:54.520 The Mason started to believe that America basically was Atlantis. 2449 02:12:54.560 --> 02:12:56.359 But then that shifted as a nation. Stays said, well 2450 02:12:56.399 --> 02:12:59.079 maybe it's in the little Atlantic Ocean, and then that 2451 02:12:59.279 --> 02:13:02.880 kind of shifted. So, but modern scholars now no longer 2452 02:13:03.039 --> 02:13:05.560 believe that because now we have subundance of a months 2453 02:13:05.600 --> 02:13:08.439 of evidence, and to say that it doesn't make any 2454 02:13:08.479 --> 02:13:11.279 logical sense because now we can compare it with other 2455 02:13:11.359 --> 02:13:14.119 writings of Plato and say it was just talking about 2456 02:13:14.119 --> 02:13:16.079 the Middle East, where all of our problems come from. 2457 02:13:17.399 --> 02:13:21.159 Right. So this group specifically is saying under the authority 2458 02:13:21.239 --> 02:13:24.119 of the Rose Cross Order, founded in America in eighteen 2459 02:13:24.319 --> 02:13:27.720 fifty eight, prominent delegates of the Order were gathered in 2460 02:13:27.800 --> 02:13:31.520 the most remarkable conclave held during the last five thousand years, 2461 02:13:31.920 --> 02:13:35.039 the publication of whose records now opens the world and 2462 02:13:35.199 --> 02:13:38.960 connection of Egypt in her ages of true religion, power 2463 02:13:39.079 --> 02:13:42.159 and glory with the mystical Seal of the United States, 2464 02:13:42.439 --> 02:13:46.840 whose heralderic symbolism declaring the mighty destiny of America has 2465 02:13:46.960 --> 02:13:51.159 until now only been known to a limited number. He's 2466 02:13:51.239 --> 02:13:55.520 saying that there is a huge connection between America, Atlantis, 2467 02:13:56.159 --> 02:13:58.960 and Egypt, right your theory. 2468 02:13:58.640 --> 02:14:02.760 At the time, Yeah, they did literature, Yeah, but they're 2469 02:14:02.760 --> 02:14:06.039 talking about they still separated though. I think they still thought. 2470 02:14:06.119 --> 02:14:09.520 They weren't sure Themazons weren't sure if Egypt was Atlantis 2471 02:14:09.640 --> 02:14:14.119 in the eighteen fifties until maybe in Night, I think 2472 02:14:14.239 --> 02:14:17.159 under Madam Blovotsky and other occultis they start to realize 2473 02:14:17.159 --> 02:14:18.840 that definitely had something to do with Egypt. But as 2474 02:14:18.960 --> 02:14:22.560 archaeology expanded and we were starting to really figure it out, 2475 02:14:22.920 --> 02:14:24.760 we realized that, yeah, it does have something to do 2476 02:14:24.840 --> 02:14:27.319 with Egypt, especially in the eighteen fifties, and that's why 2477 02:14:27.319 --> 02:14:29.960 an obelisk was placed. There wasn't just for George Washington. 2478 02:14:30.119 --> 02:14:32.560 It was to say that we are the new Atlantis. 2479 02:14:33.319 --> 02:14:36.680 We are the new It was Egyptian. They're the new Atlantis, 2480 02:14:36.840 --> 02:14:37.760 and it's Egyptians. 2481 02:14:37.840 --> 02:14:42.479 So they were with Manfeism started in Egypt. It wasn't 2482 02:14:42.520 --> 02:14:45.279 the Jice. I mean, it was a pre Jews, which 2483 02:14:45.319 --> 02:14:48.119 were Egyptians, not you know Oshkenazi Jews from Russia. 2484 02:14:49.399 --> 02:14:52.039 Right, So all I'm saying is that they would agree 2485 02:14:52.079 --> 02:14:54.800 with you on your thesis that they were probably talking 2486 02:14:54.840 --> 02:14:58.479 about Egypt. The difference is that they also believed that 2487 02:14:58.640 --> 02:15:01.399 Egypt was in the New World as well, which was 2488 02:15:01.560 --> 02:15:04.920 a big part of their theories of expanding westward. Is 2489 02:15:05.319 --> 02:15:09.079 their adoration for Egypt and their their willingness to look 2490 02:15:09.199 --> 02:15:12.359 for the things that they kept secret from all the 2491 02:15:12.399 --> 02:15:13.199 rest of the world. 2492 02:15:13.720 --> 02:15:16.840 And I think they saw similar of meso America. 2493 02:15:17.640 --> 02:15:17.840 Yep. 2494 02:15:17.960 --> 02:15:21.239 Yeah, because that one priest, the archaeologist was his name, 2495 02:15:21.640 --> 02:15:24.239 the French guy. He he's the one that first proposed 2496 02:15:24.239 --> 02:15:28.479 there's a connection really with with Central America and Egypt, 2497 02:15:28.640 --> 02:15:31.560 and then a lot of Freemasons ironically adopted that. Catholics 2498 02:15:31.600 --> 02:15:34.760 believe and even though he was basically wrong. I mean, 2499 02:15:34.800 --> 02:15:36.800 there might have been some distant connection because there aren't 2500 02:15:36.800 --> 02:15:39.479 trade route winds that go straight to meso America if 2501 02:15:39.520 --> 02:15:41.560 you took from Egypt. Sure, but it's like a one way, 2502 02:15:41.920 --> 02:15:45.319 one way route unless you have more advanced sailing techniques. 2503 02:15:45.399 --> 02:15:47.760 But we don't see evidence that Egypt had advanced sailing 2504 02:15:47.800 --> 02:15:51.439 techniques at the level of Christopher Columbus's ships. It is 2505 02:15:51.680 --> 02:15:53.760 they just they were using their ships mainly in the 2506 02:15:53.800 --> 02:15:56.560 Eastern Mediterranean and the Nile. It wasn't designed to go 2507 02:15:56.600 --> 02:15:59.560 across the Atlantic. So sure a few may have ended 2508 02:15:59.600 --> 02:16:03.239 up in America, but they got stranded there. Maybe they 2509 02:16:03.279 --> 02:16:07.479 had a slight influence on the American culture's there's a possibility. 2510 02:16:07.479 --> 02:16:09.359 I wouldn't rule that out, but I think that's more 2511 02:16:09.359 --> 02:16:12.199 of the Freemason's ideology in the early periods wanting to 2512 02:16:12.279 --> 02:16:16.159 believe that the Americas was basically Atlantis. But I don't 2513 02:16:16.159 --> 02:16:19.239 think modern day Freemasons believe that anymore. Maybe Randall Carlson 2514 02:16:19.319 --> 02:16:22.600 well random believes in the Azers more because of that mappen. 2515 02:16:23.199 --> 02:16:27.720 But Randall's not your normal Freemason. Yeah, it's hard to say. 2516 02:16:27.760 --> 02:16:30.520 But again, people's ideas in the old days, you know, 2517 02:16:30.600 --> 02:16:33.760 eighteen hundreds, even then, it shifted so much because we 2518 02:16:33.840 --> 02:16:37.319 have so much technology now and archaeological evidence to change 2519 02:16:37.639 --> 02:16:41.639 what actually is the reality and reality is it all 2520 02:16:41.680 --> 02:16:42.760 goes back to the Middle East. 2521 02:16:46.120 --> 02:16:49.239 Sadly enough, when I was at the Cosmic Summit, out 2522 02:16:49.239 --> 02:16:52.000 of all the Freemasons, Randall Carson was the only one 2523 02:16:52.040 --> 02:16:54.680 with three bodyguards and another truck behind it. 2524 02:16:55.239 --> 02:16:56.600 So yeah, he's not like it really. 2525 02:16:57.520 --> 02:17:00.360 Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if he's even still in 2526 02:17:00.399 --> 02:17:02.440 a lodge. I mean, he was a former Freemason, but 2527 02:17:02.559 --> 02:17:03.879 I don't know if he's already practicing. 2528 02:17:05.879 --> 02:17:08.479 We're gonna wrap it up, jewels, how to leave? Actually, oh, no, 2529 02:17:08.639 --> 02:17:11.319 he's there. He's there, not to cut you off. It's 2530 02:17:11.319 --> 02:17:12.600 just it's been over to its fine. 2531 02:17:12.680 --> 02:17:13.440 Yeah, it's been fun. 2532 02:17:13.840 --> 02:17:16.959 Yeah, you know, it's a good discussion lively. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 2533 02:17:17.000 --> 02:17:20.680 it was fun real quick, Uh, Peter, do you want 2534 02:17:20.719 --> 02:17:22.079 to let everybody know where they can find you? 2535 02:17:23.520 --> 02:17:25.479 Yeah, you can check me out my YouTube channel at 2536 02:17:25.639 --> 02:17:29.719 nickma Seeker or on reburse channel or on YouTuber suspects sky. 2537 02:17:29.879 --> 02:17:32.120 I made a few videos and been on their podcast. 2538 02:17:32.159 --> 02:17:34.399 I've also been Mica and Dave's channel. We did a 2539 02:17:34.440 --> 02:17:38.200 little talk abou Atlantis there and yeah, there's a few 2540 02:17:38.239 --> 02:17:38.840 orders I've been on. 2541 02:17:40.680 --> 02:17:45.200 Awesome, Awesome, Thank you very much everybody else. I'm not 2542 02:17:45.280 --> 02:17:46.879 going to because Jewels has gotta get going. I'm not 2543 02:17:46.879 --> 02:17:48.319 gonna list you're dude. 2544 02:17:48.360 --> 02:17:52.000 It's fun, right, Okay, it's really real quick. Let everybody 2545 02:17:52.040 --> 02:17:53.319 know where they can find your amazing work. 2546 02:17:54.399 --> 02:17:54.760 Thanks. 2547 02:17:55.479 --> 02:17:58.440 You know, obviously these are just my opinions. Thanks everybody 2548 02:17:58.520 --> 02:18:01.120 in the chat, and thanks for being and you know, 2549 02:18:01.959 --> 02:18:04.520 a team player, Peter, because I know we had some 2550 02:18:04.840 --> 02:18:07.319 differing opinions and I think it's important not to be 2551 02:18:07.399 --> 02:18:09.879 a candy ass though. I'm going to tell you what 2552 02:18:10.040 --> 02:18:12.200 I think and you know you can debate me, and 2553 02:18:12.719 --> 02:18:15.959 that'll just make me have to prove myself, which is great. 2554 02:18:16.159 --> 02:18:18.959 You know, we should all be challenged from time to time. 2555 02:18:19.799 --> 02:18:22.360 If you like anything I said, you can check out 2556 02:18:22.440 --> 02:18:24.920 Cosmic Peach podcast. But thanks for having me Nick, it 2557 02:18:25.040 --> 02:18:27.120 was really fun. I enjoyed the conversation. 2558 02:18:28.959 --> 02:18:33.159 Thank you very much, Julie, and Hello's giants, sir, Thank 2559 02:18:33.200 --> 02:18:33.719 you very much. 2560 02:18:33.959 --> 02:18:36.319 You can find me at the Headless Giant on Twitter 2561 02:18:36.479 --> 02:18:40.920 and on Instagram and on YouTube. This Sunday, we've got 2562 02:18:40.959 --> 02:18:44.399 the trialogue coming up with Ethan and Ricardo and that's 2563 02:18:44.440 --> 02:18:46.000 going to be an awesome time and as well as 2564 02:18:46.159 --> 02:18:50.959 a big discussion about oh man, I'm blanking what is it? Dick? 2565 02:18:51.840 --> 02:18:55.360 What the guy later on in the day with Mithrus 2566 02:18:55.840 --> 02:18:59.440 Oh yes, yes, yes, that's an eleven. That's an eleven 2567 02:19:00.479 --> 02:19:03.440 eleven and then five I got this guy from my astrology. 2568 02:19:04.239 --> 02:19:04.680 You got it. 2569 02:19:04.799 --> 02:19:07.079 It's gonna be awesome. And then I've got Alchemy Mondays 2570 02:19:07.120 --> 02:19:10.040 coming up and my mail bag as well. If you 2571 02:19:10.159 --> 02:19:13.239 send me an email at Headless Giant Podcast at gmail 2572 02:19:13.280 --> 02:19:15.879 dot com about your cult experience, we can get some 2573 02:19:15.959 --> 02:19:19.520 stickers out to you. So definitely send me your email 2574 02:19:19.600 --> 02:19:22.399 with your address and we will get that up. 2575 02:19:22.920 --> 02:19:26.440 Thank you, thank you, sir, and real quick cheles. Let 2576 02:19:26.479 --> 02:19:28.719 everybody know what's up with you guys. 2577 02:19:28.760 --> 02:19:33.959 It is fun show. Great presentation man. Y'all can find 2578 02:19:34.000 --> 02:19:37.040 me on Twitter at Gray Pill Pod, Instagram, Great Poot, 2579 02:19:37.120 --> 02:19:41.159 Underscore Podcast. I'm on Rumble, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, all 2580 02:19:41.200 --> 02:19:44.520 that good stuff, Patreon dot com, slash, Great Pill Podcast 2581 02:19:45.520 --> 02:19:48.120 doing a lot of cool things over there. You get 2582 02:19:48.120 --> 02:19:52.360 a free sticker pack. We do Patreon exclusive content esotery 2583 02:19:52.360 --> 02:19:54.399 book reviews. Go check out the one from this morning 2584 02:19:54.440 --> 02:19:56.959 before I make it private. It was a good time. 2585 02:19:57.000 --> 02:19:59.959 We had Nick and Headless there with me, Subliminol and rat. 2586 02:20:01.840 --> 02:20:05.239 Next week we're reading the Alish so that that should 2587 02:20:05.239 --> 02:20:09.239 be fun. But yeah, check out our show we did 2588 02:20:09.319 --> 02:20:13.719 last night on the I'm blanking the Servant in the 2589 02:20:13.799 --> 02:20:20.479 Rainbow with Annie and Robert. Uh, I'm blanking on names, dude, 2590 02:20:21.840 --> 02:20:25.920 Robbie Marks Uh. It was a great time banger episode. 2591 02:20:27.440 --> 02:20:30.239 And uh yeah, y'all check out our episodes tomorrow. I'll 2592 02:20:30.280 --> 02:20:32.360 be doing a deep dive tomorrow night. I'm pretty sure, 2593 02:20:32.600 --> 02:20:35.319 uh my part two on The Green Man. So y'all 2594 02:20:35.639 --> 02:20:39.639 keep a lookout for a time posted on that. Yeah, 2595 02:20:39.879 --> 02:20:42.239 Patreon is the best way to support the show, and 2596 02:20:42.399 --> 02:20:44.079 look out this next week. I got a bunch of 2597 02:20:44.559 --> 02:20:48.200 shows this I think. Robbie, speaking of Robbie, he's coming 2598 02:20:48.239 --> 02:20:49.040 on this next week. 2599 02:20:49.280 --> 02:20:50.319 Uh let me. 2600 02:20:52.639 --> 02:20:58.600 Uh Wednesday. Him and Doc both book Wednesday night, so 2601 02:20:58.799 --> 02:21:01.280 I'm gonna have to work that out somehow. So one 2602 02:21:01.319 --> 02:21:03.600 of them will be Wednesday night, maybe the other one 2603 02:21:04.079 --> 02:21:06.040 Monday or I don't know. I'll have to get at 2604 02:21:06.479 --> 02:21:11.360 them tomorrow. And then Dana from Rotting Jewels will be 2605 02:21:11.479 --> 02:21:14.280 on Thursday, so that's going to be a banger. And 2606 02:21:14.399 --> 02:21:17.000 me and Headless have our Rustic Gods episode that we'll 2607 02:21:17.040 --> 02:21:19.760 be doing this week, probably next weekend since we're so 2608 02:21:19.879 --> 02:21:22.879 busy this weekend, so y'all stay tuned for that. But 2609 02:21:23.639 --> 02:21:27.680 until next time, everybody, this this was this was a 2610 02:21:27.719 --> 02:21:30.040 great episode, all right, thank you guys. 2611 02:21:30.760 --> 02:21:33.399 Well, yeah, thank you all, and thank you everybody in 2612 02:21:33.440 --> 02:21:33.680 the chat. 2613 02:21:33.760 --> 02:21:36.120 I appreciate it. There's a lot of comments on everybody's 2614 02:21:36.159 --> 02:21:38.120 chat all over there. I was stuck in the chat 2615 02:21:38.159 --> 02:21:40.879 actually at one point, so thank you all very much. 2616 02:21:41.159 --> 02:21:43.559 There's definitely some stuff. And then to check the check out, 2617 02:21:44.159 --> 02:21:46.520 and again, thank you all for coming on the show. 2618 02:21:46.520 --> 02:21:50.000 I really appreciate everybody making the time for Yeah, and 2619 02:21:50.040 --> 02:21:51.920 that is the end of another could rejectcent until the 2620 02:21:51.959 --> 02:21:52.920 next one tomorrow. 2621 02:21:53.079 --> 02:21:56.719 Everybody be will the continent of Atlantis was an island 2622 02:21:57.520 --> 02:22:00.879 which lay before the Great Flood, in the area we 2623 02:22:01.000 --> 02:22:06.159 now call the Atlantic Ocean, so great an area of 2624 02:22:06.319 --> 02:22:11.680 land that from her western shores those beautiful sailors journeyed 2625 02:22:11.719 --> 02:22:16.520 to the South and the North Americas with ease in 2626 02:22:16.639 --> 02:22:18.479 their ships, with painted sails. 2627 02:22:23.319 --> 02:22:23.959 To the east. 2628 02:22:24.399 --> 02:22:30.479 Africa was her neighbor, across a short strait of sea miles. 2629 02:22:33.559 --> 02:22:36.079 The Great Egyptian Age is but a remnant of the 2630 02:22:36.120 --> 02:22:44.079 Atlantean culture. The Antediluvian kings colonized the world, all the 2631 02:22:44.159 --> 02:22:47.760 gods who play in the mythological dramas in all legends, 2632 02:22:47.840 --> 02:22:57.280 from all lands where from fair Atlantis. Knowing her fate, 2633 02:22:57.680 --> 02:23:00.479 Atlantis sent out ships to all corners of the earth, 2634 02:23:01.280 --> 02:23:06.440 on board with the twelve, the poet, the physician, the farmer, 2635 02:23:06.920 --> 02:23:10.319 the scientist, the magician, and the other so called gods 2636 02:23:10.399 --> 02:23:14.959 of our legends. Though gods they were, and as the 2637 02:23:15.040 --> 02:23:19.719 elders of our time choose to remain blind, let us rejoice, 2638 02:23:19.760 --> 02:23:22.760 and let us sing and dance and ring in the 2639 02:23:22.879 --> 02:23:26.239 new hailed Atlantis. 2640 02:23:30.000 --> 02:23:51.760 Below the shanty. She may be way shany me, she. 2641 02:23:51.959 --> 02:23:52.399 May be. 2642 02:24:02.799 --> 02:24:04.959 Known. She made me