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Speaker 4: It's Friday the thirteenth again. So here we are, March thirteen,
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six, allegedly according to that thing we call
Speaker 4: a calendar, this the Ocelli effect, And I know Bpete
Speaker 4: can hear me, but it's going to be a weird trip.
Speaker 4: We tried to use what we've been using now for
Speaker 4: months and it doesn't want to cooperate with either one
Speaker 4: of us as the co hosts on here. So even
Speaker 4: more urgent than ever, I need to get the uh.
Speaker 4: I need to get new communications in and that's going
Speaker 4: to be something that the only way it's going to work,
Speaker 4: right is if I pay for it, and that's it.
Speaker 4: The free ones seem to all suck. I can't seem
Speaker 4: to find a good one where I can plug in
Speaker 4: the phone calls, plug in the co host and roll.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Now, this might all become super relevant soon anyway, if
Speaker 4: I start up the video in April. But until then,
Speaker 4: here we are, so call in and you're gonna be
Speaker 4: part of an attempt to connect B Pete to the calls,
Speaker 4: because I'll be able to hear you. The listeners will
Speaker 4: hear you if you call in, And for some stupid
Speaker 4: reason in the loop, I seem to not be able
Speaker 4: to get to be Pete. So I'm gonna have to
Speaker 4: play with it a little and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: But it's Friday night and I want to have some fun,
Speaker 4: so maybe we can get this done quickly enough and
Speaker 4: get at least a good hour's worth of fun out
Speaker 4: of our show until Aaron Franz starts at ten pm
Speaker 4: Eastern and Uncle the broadcast begins at eleven pm Eastern. Okay,
Speaker 4: so be Pete. The first experiment I'm gonna do with you.
Speaker 4: Did you hear the intro when I played it at
Speaker 4: the beginning of the show, I did excellent. I want
Speaker 4: to see if you can hear something else I'm gonna
Speaker 4: play for you because I got a little bit of
Speaker 4: audio work, and happily somebody clipped something for me and
Speaker 4: I was able to turn it into what I wanted
Speaker 4: to and it is, you know, to me, priceless because
Speaker 4: I got a couple of audio drops. Okay, so let's
Speaker 4: see if you can hear these and if you can
Speaker 4: hear them clearly, and we know the one mission is accomplished,
Speaker 4: even at the phone calls are still a hurdle. We'll
Speaker 4: get over this real quick before we actually get into
Speaker 4: some show topics. Okay, it's uh, what do we got here? Okay?
Speaker 4: So I got that and I got that. Now I'm
Speaker 4: you know, I was gonna set stuff up, but then
Speaker 4: I was screwing around with this thing for fifteen minutes,
Speaker 4: actually about twenty five minutes. I was ready at ten,
Speaker 4: of of course, and at ten of things were going
Speaker 4: a little weird. I reset everything, thought it was fine,
Speaker 4: and then you or I both could not sign into
Speaker 4: an open source communication tool. That's not supposed to happen.
Speaker 4: But here we are.
Speaker 3: Let's see.
Speaker 4: Okay. So if I grab this, that's for the online
Speaker 4: radio station. Okay. So now I've got all my little
Speaker 4: audio pieces I wanted to play, and we're going to
Speaker 4: see how well you can hear them and if you
Speaker 4: understand what's being said, because I think this absolutely needs
Speaker 4: to be understood. So here we go. Here's the first one.
Speaker 4: Be peat, I.
Speaker 3: Hear that Irish and Sicilian.
Speaker 4: There you go. Okay, Oh, here we go. Okay, all right,
Speaker 4: these are personalized. Nobody else in the world will have these.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, what were you gonna say?
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that that Italian Sicilian or reminded
Speaker 3: me of a comment somebody made about this World Baseball
Speaker 3: Classic the team from Italy. Oh yeah, so they went
Speaker 3: down a roster who went down a roster of major
Speaker 3: league players and said, okay, you got enough vowels in
Speaker 3: your name, we want you on the Italian team.
Speaker 4: It was so funny because the Italian team, like, there
Speaker 4: was an announcer and I don't know what feet it was.
Speaker 4: I can't find it, but I was listening to some
Speaker 4: radio feed of it, and the English speaking broadcaster like
Speaker 4: gave up at a certain point, which is funny. I
Speaker 4: thought they only did that with Asian names, where they
Speaker 4: go rucca, huka. I don't know what the hell this is.
Speaker 4: You know, you ever hear you hear that once in
Speaker 4: a while when they you know, it's like a guy's
Speaker 4: trying to do Korea or Japanese baseball. They can't do it.
Speaker 4: White guy goes never mind. I don't know, and you
Speaker 4: wonder how he got that job.
Speaker 3: But it's even we'll call him alphabet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's even funnier though, with the Italians because they
Speaker 4: halfway get there and after a while they all default
Speaker 4: to I don't know, Tony Pasta, what do I know?
Speaker 4: They go so like it goes something like that, and
Speaker 4: this guy straight up gave up on like three guys' names.
Speaker 4: And that's exactly when, like, by the way, the Italian
Speaker 4: team kind of humiliated the Team USA, which look, I'm
Speaker 4: not rooting for the Italians here, I gotta tell you,
Speaker 4: but I found it funny.
Speaker 3: It screwed us up. Yeah, it screwed us up because
Speaker 3: then that put us as the runner up in that pool.
Speaker 3: So now we got to play the damn non bacon
Speaker 3: making hosers from Canada tonight.
Speaker 4: Yep, you actually got to play a real team. The
Speaker 4: Italians could play ball. Who knew, you know?
Speaker 3: I mean every well, like last last week when we
Speaker 3: had to play Great Britain. Friend of mine, she's a
Speaker 3: teacher over in the UK, and I messaged her and
Speaker 3: told her, I said, you know, we just smoked your
Speaker 3: ass at baseball. She said, we don't even play baseball.
Speaker 3: I said, I know, we beat you. Ninth was a
Speaker 3: nine of four or something told he us And I
Speaker 3: just can't believe y'all had a team. She says, we don't. Really,
Speaker 3: she says, but you know it's then she starts giving
Speaker 3: me when you talk to a UK person about anything
Speaker 3: in the US, yep, it's like talking to a black
Speaker 3: person about rock and roll. Oh, well, you know black
Speaker 3: people started that. Well, the UK people are the same way.
Speaker 3: Oh your baseball just came from our rounders And I said, no,
Speaker 3: that's softball. Well our cricket, I said, no, you got
Speaker 3: to bounce the ball to play cricket. Y'all are wussies.
Speaker 3: It don't matter that I said, take a ninety yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: take a ninety five mile an hour fastball down the pipe.
Speaker 3: Tell me what you're going to do with it. So
Speaker 3: we've been dragging each other back and forth.
Speaker 4: All week, right, some of them bowler's actually reached one
Speaker 4: hundred and ten miles pro there, chap. And you know,
Speaker 4: without rounders and of course cricket, you'd have no baseball
Speaker 4: at all, would you. I mean, But then again, you
Speaker 4: wouldn't have a country at all if we didn't let
Speaker 4: you win in that little conflict there sometimes.
Speaker 3: Well, right right, I told her very politely, I don't
Speaker 3: trust anybody that's been driving on the wrong side road
Speaker 3: their whole life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, between that and effect that you animals eat blood putting,
Speaker 4: shut up anyway. I mean really, British food is disgusting.
Speaker 4: It is horrifying British food. But anyway, forget the Brits,
Speaker 4: forget the Baseball Classic, because from now on, if I
Speaker 4: show up, and I am starting to show up in
Speaker 4: a couple of places, I'm willing to do a co
Speaker 4: host thing. Despite the weirdness that went on this week,
Speaker 4: I am willing to show up as a co host
Speaker 4: some places, not just be a guest. I don't have
Speaker 4: to be the illustrious anything. I want to work with
Speaker 4: some different people, get some different rhythms going. I want
Speaker 4: to improve the show I do with be Pete, and
Speaker 4: I want to maybe add another co host or two,
Speaker 4: or maybe give Bepete a new co host and I
Speaker 4: get a new co host. I don't know. I want
Speaker 4: to make combinations. Be Pete staying, but I want to
Speaker 4: make combinations. Maybe you and I stick and you know,
Speaker 4: we get a different vibe on I don't know, another
Speaker 4: day of a week or something. But no matter what,
Speaker 4: here is how I wish to be introduced from now on.
Speaker 3: You the first double nigga, I have a met in
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 4: That in my life, because that is how I was
Speaker 4: handled on a recent episode of AM Wake Up. That
Speaker 4: was my introduction. B Pete. Did you catch that one?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Is it appropriate to be known as the end word? Now?
Speaker 4: Well I don't have to say it. She can do it.
Speaker 3: And look this is now which that's true.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna play this in between replay shows on
Speaker 4: the station Boy Revelation through conversations, Irish answer you the
Speaker 4: first double nigga, I have a met in my life, Chili,
Speaker 4: come damn right there you go.
Speaker 3: Thoughts, it's different, it's different. I don't know if too
Speaker 3: many people have been referred to as a double nigger
Speaker 3: on the radio. So we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 4: I gotta tell you from now on, I'm dead serious.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: If I'm going on especially you know, to do a
Speaker 4: bit of a co hosting job for an hour two hours,
Speaker 4: I'm doing a three hour show on AM Wake Up
Speaker 4: on Mondays. Now when I you know, I don't want
Speaker 4: to curse myself because now I'll have my internet go
Speaker 4: out this Monday or something. But past two weeks, I
Speaker 4: did most of a show, and I did all of
Speaker 4: the last week's show. But on my very first show,
Speaker 4: the pop up came teal as somebody who stops in
Speaker 4: on that show every now and then, and she was
Speaker 4: like kind of confused about who she was talking to.
Speaker 4: I said a couple of things, and then I got
Speaker 4: what I got.
Speaker 3: You the first double nigga. I have am met in
Speaker 3: my life that in.
Speaker 4: My life, and I gotta say I'm proud of that.
Speaker 4: It is not every day Bpete.
Speaker 3: That is she not get out much. No.
Speaker 4: The thing is Irish Sicilian. See, you don't understand Sicilians
Speaker 4: are not white people. That's one thing, no matter what
Speaker 4: they look like, because they can look very much non white,
Speaker 4: or they can look super white, but they're not white people.
Speaker 4: Any good white supremacists will tell you Sicilians ain't white people.
Speaker 4: Also Irish people, purely Irish people or Irish people. On
Speaker 4: the pecking order the hierarchy of white people, they are
Speaker 4: forever the lowest. And this is one of those things
Speaker 4: that people do in racialist culture. That's just the way
Speaker 4: it is. So as a you know, somebody who appears
Speaker 4: to be white, I am half non white for sure,
Speaker 4: and the US government agreed with that for a very
Speaker 4: long time. I'm half non white and half lowest possible white,
Speaker 4: which in the hierarchy chain gives me everything except the
Speaker 4: melanin pretty much. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I bet you in person, and
Speaker 3: you're about the whitest nigger I've ever met in my life.
Speaker 4: Well that's because I stay inside.
Speaker 3: But believe me, you're whiter than Rachel Dolasol. Well, yes,
Speaker 3: but you see, but I'm whiter than Seaun King.
Speaker 4: But I'm blacker. But I guarantee you I'm blacker than Rachel. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's the thing. If you shook my ancestry's family tree,
Speaker 4: there are not all white people in there. There is
Speaker 4: a mix of a lot of things that you would
Speaker 4: not qualify as right. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: It's like every time every time I see Sean King
Speaker 3: on the axe, always refer to him as white bread.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, but listen, are are okay? We know, forget
Speaker 4: about Italy because it's a fabricated country anyway. You know,
Speaker 4: there's Africans in Sicilian blood. It just is very close proximity.
Speaker 4: Various African peoples landed on Sicily and some of them
Speaker 4: either stayed or left hind presence. Okay, either by force
Speaker 4: or you know, by romance, one way or another. There
Speaker 4: were Africans who landed there. But you also must know
Speaker 4: that during the time of the Road Empire. No, it's
Speaker 4: just hey, listen, this is historical fact. On top of that, okay, nobody.
Speaker 3: There was, Yes, there was a nigg in the grapevine.
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm telling you there is. Listen asking Honor Sicilian,
Speaker 4: who knows their history? Now on top of that, I'm
Speaker 4: not done. Nobody knows who Attila the Huns people were.
Speaker 4: Very seriously, that's one of those like we think we
Speaker 4: know who they were. We think they.
Speaker 3: Were all they were on the other side of the mountains.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't they were more Asian more more,
Speaker 3: they were more of that Turkish Asian mix. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: no before they hit Italy.
Speaker 4: Right, But there is a mystery element in that soup.
Speaker 4: Nobody quite knows what the Huns were. You know, these
Speaker 4: people who lived on horseback basically their whole lives. I
Speaker 4: wonder if the.
Speaker 3: Huns were the Gypsies before they were Gypsies.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. That's the thing anyway element there
Speaker 4: which would not suggest pure white. Also, since you mentioned Asians,
Speaker 4: there's Asians that invaded and went through Sicily, and all
Speaker 4: of this stuff is present. This is why I tell
Speaker 4: that story about my father saying, listen, pretty much everything
Speaker 4: in the world, you know, every person you ever see, okay,
Speaker 4: is effectively your brother, distant cousin, whatever. Because the only
Speaker 4: thing I can't guarantee you is that red Indian over
Speaker 4: there is not in your bloodstream. That's the only thing.
Speaker 4: And I'm not sure, but I can't guarantee you they're
Speaker 4: in there. Otherwise, the whole rest of the world is
Speaker 4: in Sicilian blood. So his argument would be that that's
Speaker 4: what made Sicilian special because we were the melting pot
Speaker 4: before America was invented. Okay, And you know, some by force,
Speaker 4: some by whatever, some by trade, that all got in there.
Speaker 4: Now I'm not done because I said Arabs. No, I
Speaker 4: didn't get to Arabs yet exactly. Arabs. Arabs are not
Speaker 4: generally seen as white, are they.
Speaker 3: Now are more brown?
Speaker 4: Okay? Well, brown Arabs got in there, okay, because they
Speaker 4: landed on Sicily, invaded and contributed to the DNA soup.
Speaker 4: In addition, any of the Hispanic brown people. You can
Speaker 4: imagine the people from Hispania or good lord, what is it. No,
Speaker 4: it's not Hibernia. There's there's an ancient name for Spain.
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter. It's the same people. And guess what they're
Speaker 4: in there?
Speaker 3: There are well you had, you had, yeah, you had,
Speaker 3: and the little eventually the well. Eventually the Africans made
Speaker 3: the jump over at the Rock of Gibraltar, went through
Speaker 3: Portugal and Spain and hell, they settled almost all of
Speaker 3: Spain at one time. Third a Muslim conquest.
Speaker 4: Okay, true, but also whoever ended up in Tunisia was
Speaker 4: right by Sicily and they took short boat trips. It happened.
Speaker 4: So anyway, all I'm trying to say is in all
Speaker 4: different people from Africa, whether they were the darkest of
Speaker 4: dark or they ended up being you know, the Kadapi
Speaker 4: looking guys, right, they came through. So you're talking about
Speaker 4: over you know, the course of many centuries, there was
Speaker 4: a contribution from virtually every you know, alleged race among
Speaker 4: the races. Pretty much. The only like my father had
Speaker 4: told me when I was three or four years old,
Speaker 4: the only guarantee I can't give you is that that
Speaker 4: American Indian over there, because that's what we call Native Americans.
Speaker 4: The redskin guy, right, or those people. He said, that's
Speaker 4: the only one I can't guarantee is in there, but
Speaker 4: I suspect they are too. So the thing is, even
Speaker 4: if you got all the rest of the world except them,
Speaker 4: you got it plus all these white people of all sorts.
Speaker 4: And we all know that there's different grades of white people. Okay,
Speaker 4: they're just is and you'll find out if something racial
Speaker 4: happens and white people start subdividing. Anyways, I'm just saying
Speaker 4: that Asian, right, African, South American right, Like every continent
Speaker 4: you can imagine where there are people's shades change a bit,
Speaker 4: you get a contribution into sicily, and that includes much
Speaker 4: of the Asian world. You know, there's different Asians, right.
Speaker 4: I just remarked earlier today that I heard somebody literally
Speaker 4: use the word oriental, and I went, wow, that's actually
Speaker 4: a really destructive and ugly word that people don't even
Speaker 4: realize was ugly, and they sort of quietly got rid
Speaker 4: of it. But you know, that had to do with
Speaker 4: the fact that Asians were seen at one point by
Speaker 4: some of the world as magical jabbering mystical monkeys. They
Speaker 4: weren't even people. So you know, that's just the reality
Speaker 4: of the Oriental term. But there are many types of Asians,
Speaker 4: and there's evidence where you can put you know, the Mongolians,
Speaker 4: you can put the actual Chinese there. You know, where
Speaker 4: do you think Italians didn't actually invent spaghetti? Think about it? Okay,
Speaker 4: and that flatbread we're putting pizza on that came from
Speaker 4: the Middle East. I'm just saying the contribution was there
Speaker 4: because of the giant target. I mean, think about the
Speaker 4: conscripts and the mixed armies of Alexander the Great as
Speaker 4: they rolled into certain places and then return claiming that
Speaker 4: they were part of what the Greek army, right, the
Speaker 4: Greek establishment, Hey, we're coming back for our pay or whatever,
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. They were eclectic at best. Right,
Speaker 4: you have the conflict between Sparta and Dorias and then
Speaker 4: later on Xerxes, you know, which we know was massive.
Speaker 4: But also alongside of that, when the conflicts subsided, many
Speaker 4: a soldier remained where the hell they found themselves, which
Speaker 4: meant that's a whole Asiatic strain that goes, especially in
Speaker 4: the Mediterranean area. But there are other areas of stoppage.
Speaker 4: You have to study the maps. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 4: don't take the Oliver Stone film per gospel, okay, because
Speaker 4: it's wrong all over the place. But even if you want,
Speaker 4: don't want to argue history, what you can't argue is
Speaker 4: that there was intermingling of all sorts here, okay, of
Speaker 4: allegedly different races. If you remember in the movie Alexander though,
Speaker 4: because it's a good visual is he's got his you know,
Speaker 4: wild savage wife that he takes as his second wife, right,
Speaker 4: and she is of that world, so to speak. And
Speaker 4: Alexander was fascinated by Asian culture. So Oliver Stone got
Speaker 4: those parts right, but you know, the whole craziness and
Speaker 4: exactly how bisexual he was another story, and other historical
Speaker 4: complete failures of accuracy in that very long movie. And
Speaker 4: I like the movie, by the way, but it's not
Speaker 4: a documentary. It's not historically accurate. Point is, though, what
Speaker 4: is historically accurate is that it's not all about one
Speaker 4: race of people who are very pure killed another race
Speaker 4: of people. Now, that did happen at certain points, but
Speaker 4: usually these conflicts were not quite so clearly defined by
Speaker 4: race it was territory. It was who the ruler was,
Speaker 4: it was who the leader was. Absolutely, and there was
Speaker 4: a cultural truly a culture war going on there. But
Speaker 4: the people within the ranks, I mean, there were entire
Speaker 4: Roman legions that only spoke German. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 4: there's more than one type of German in the ancient world.
Speaker 4: You know, everybody thinks of the Arian with the blond
Speaker 4: and blue eyes and everything as being one thing, and
Speaker 4: that's the way it always was. That's the interesting that
Speaker 4: is quite frankly, that is mythology. The actual physical German people,
Speaker 4: there is a serious divide where there's clearly, at least
Speaker 4: very too significantly differently appearing races of individuals there. If
Speaker 4: you want to cut races this way, you know, one
Speaker 4: of them is very dark haired, very hairy, okay, and
Speaker 4: just sort of has a certain type which is typical
Speaker 4: among them. And then true there is this sort of
Speaker 4: lighter aryan type of you know, in my mind, they're
Speaker 4: always psychologically twisted and emotionally imbalanced, but they got that
Speaker 4: pretty look with the blonde hair to blue eyes, the
Speaker 4: optimal height, et cetera. Whether it's a woman or a man, apparently,
Speaker 4: and they really really enjoyed their freaking you know, basically
Speaker 4: meth amphetamine or a substance much like it, which the
Speaker 4: army gave them directly, you know, so when you think
Speaker 4: about the blitztrig, they were really really wound up on crank.
Speaker 4: But either way, there was a distinct difference between these
Speaker 4: two looks, and that prevailed for a long time. And
Speaker 4: here's the fun part. A significant portion of the German
Speaker 4: population didn't even settle into agriculturally erased towns until the
Speaker 4: Romans got there. And they were dealing with two different
Speaker 4: sets of sort of Germans, which again had a different name.
Speaker 4: In ancient lands. There was seriously a good fighter warrior
Speaker 4: class of individuals, and then there was another one that
Speaker 4: was more technologically advanced, seemingly more intelligent, not quite as tough,
Speaker 4: but way more clever. And they were divided by their
Speaker 4: different mannerisms, and indeed, at certain points there were leaders
Speaker 4: of entire legions and legions that had commanders and such
Speaker 4: that did not speak the tongue of the Empire except
Speaker 4: very minimally, because that had nothing to end there, you go,
Speaker 4: they earned their right to be Roman citizens. They in
Speaker 4: some cases returned to the Roman controlled territory, and you know,
Speaker 4: settled down in allegedly Roman controlled territory and wound up
Speaker 4: getting what Roman women, whatever that meant at the time. Now,
Speaker 4: they weren't going to get the kings and queens and
Speaker 4: the primary subjects, but they definitely got women who are
Speaker 4: based in Rome who would have been you know, extremely
Speaker 4: DNA divergent from them. So this is I mean, this
Speaker 4: is just a reality. And now I'm starting to feel
Speaker 4: like Jimmy the Greek, who I saw clip about recently,
Speaker 4: which was kind of funny because I had to remind
Speaker 4: myself of how Jimmy the Greek actually got fired. And
Speaker 4: it's really funny because he would have gotten fired today too.
Speaker 4: They wouldn't have put up with him. But but the
Speaker 4: point is that they really shouldn't have, because all he
Speaker 4: was saying is that during the time of slavery, you know,
Speaker 4: there was controlled breeding, and that controlled breeding kind of
Speaker 4: produced certain results. And again, in the ancient world, you
Speaker 4: certainly would have only bred with the people that you
Speaker 4: could get your hands on, and not being a seafaring
Speaker 4: person directly or not having the greater resources or land ownership,
Speaker 4: you know, what you were going to couple up and
Speaker 4: pair up with who was right around you, and that
Speaker 4: might have changed based on who invaded, who had influence,
Speaker 4: who was brought nearby, what you were part of already
Speaker 4: born into, et cetera. And there is a tremendous amount
Speaker 4: of diversity in the gene pool there, you know, That's
Speaker 4: all I'm saying. So arguably, Sicilians are just as much
Speaker 4: anything as anything else, because somewhere in history, promise you,
Speaker 4: anybody you want to try and fit into my family
Speaker 4: tree looks wise, you can find them. And having gone
Speaker 4: to Sicily, there are Sicilians that are, you know, darker
Speaker 4: than anything you would call black in America, and there
Speaker 4: are some that are light bright and damn near white
Speaker 4: in appearance. You know, blond hair, blue eyes, the whole thing.
Speaker 4: I mean. I myself, I have dark hair, not very dark.
Speaker 4: I was born with blonde hair. I've got blue eyes,
Speaker 4: and I have pale skin. Sicilians do not have a
Speaker 4: lockstep singular look. A typical set of looks is not
Speaker 4: guaranteed when you have a Sicilian ethnicity, because your combination
Speaker 4: of DNA is not necessarily guaranteed to be precisely the
Speaker 4: same as your fellow countrymen So there you go. And
Speaker 4: what can I say? So I fully accept and embrace
Speaker 4: this as at least part of what my culture actually is.
Speaker 4: Whether you can see it or not not my problem.
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, What do you think?
Speaker 3: Join us next week as we hear Chuck espouse his
Speaker 3: opinions on Geo's societal Popoerrie on the Chuck o'chelly Friday
Speaker 3: Night Show.
Speaker 4: Okay, but you disagree?
Speaker 3: Yes, not all world's a melting pot. I mean you
Speaker 3: trace back culture. There's no pure culture on this earth nowhere.
Speaker 3: You know, you had Asians, you had Japan, you had China,
Speaker 3: you had Korea. You had all of these kingdoms battling
Speaker 3: each other. Then you had the Huns, you had the Mongols,
Speaker 3: and they all fought their way towards the Turks and
Speaker 3: the Kazarians, and then they fought their way west to
Speaker 3: take on the Austrians and the Prussians, and of course
Speaker 3: you had the Russians up above coming down and creating
Speaker 3: conflict with everything. Rome went everywhere, all the way as
Speaker 3: far as Ireland, where's Hadrian's Walls and that between Scotland,
Speaker 3: No is it Scotland and England. I think yes, well,
Speaker 3: anyway you had road reached that far. The Portuguese sailed
Speaker 3: all over the world and made their influence along with
Speaker 3: the Spaniards. The Africans supposedly have traveled to every continent
Speaker 3: before anybody else was ever there. If you go by
Speaker 3: current history, I don't know. I guess the only pure
Speaker 3: people you'd have would be the indigenous Canadians, the first
Speaker 3: nation people see and pro groups. Probably they came from
Speaker 3: over from Asia, right, most of those came over from Asia, right,
Speaker 3: So you know so much going to do it's all
Speaker 3: the meltain box. Yeah.
Speaker 4: My contention is, in truth, there is no such thing
Speaker 4: as a big separation. There was different migrations and different
Speaker 4: things that happened. Now you could potentially discover a tribe
Speaker 4: which has been isolated for two thousand years. The good
Speaker 4: they should be fully inbred as hell, but you know,
Speaker 4: at least they rotate where you know, the one guy
Speaker 4: rules for a generation and makes all the babies. They
Speaker 4: have arrangements like this in some of these long lasting
Speaker 4: tribes where one guy makes all the babies for about
Speaker 4: ten years and then he's no longer doing that, and
Speaker 4: then the next guy ends up making all the babies
Speaker 4: for the next ten years. So it actually diversifies stuff
Speaker 4: so that you have a guaranteed mix up and you know,
Speaker 4: okay it ends up if you run part of society
Speaker 4: that way and lead part of it sort of random,
Speaker 4: it causes enough of a racial shuffle that or you know,
Speaker 4: enough of a DNA shuffle that you don't necessarily get
Speaker 4: you know, the specially slow cousins. Just saying, right, but
Speaker 4: it's hard to do anyway. The thing is this, Yeah,
Speaker 4: even the so called indigenous people, well they came from somewhere.
Speaker 4: The only one I don't have a good explanation for, honestly,
Speaker 4: is the indigenous people in Australia. Like I don't know
Speaker 4: how to figure that one out because at some point
Speaker 4: there had to be a land bridge for them to
Speaker 4: get there, because I don't see it otherwise. But maybe
Speaker 4: I'm all informed there.
Speaker 3: No. I mean, if you look at the Southeast Asian
Speaker 3: cultures in Thailand, the Philippines, you know those were seafaring
Speaker 3: people too, so right, especially when you look at the
Speaker 3: Philippines and down to Malaysia. No, I mean there's nothing
Speaker 3: but just island chain after island chain after island chain.
Speaker 3: So island hopping would not have been that hard down there. Now,
Speaker 3: I'm sure the original well, the Indigenous people into Australia probably,
Speaker 3: I would think, have one of the older lineages of
Speaker 3: any groups in the world, right, you know, just like
Speaker 3: they tracing them back to wherever they started in Africa.
Speaker 3: But you know, if according to the Good Book, it
Speaker 3: all started between the Tigris and the Euphrates River, So
Speaker 3: you know, depending on which group you want to believe,
Speaker 3: I would imagine those indigenous New Zealand tribes and Australian
Speaker 3: tribes are some of the oldest as well.
Speaker 4: Well, right, like your book might say, you know, we're
Speaker 4: talking somewhere near Iraq, right as far as where things
Speaker 4: start from, although the big question is, you know, immediately, okay,
Speaker 4: there's two people that are made and then there's these
Speaker 4: other people that just they're there, right, So that's never explained.
Speaker 4: So where did they come from? Okay? Look, I don't
Speaker 4: want to get into a religious argument. It's just a
Speaker 4: matter of the open possibilities are there, and you know
Speaker 4: you can't trace it perfectly. You can say those people
Speaker 4: in Australia they had isolation for a very long period
Speaker 4: of time, so they didn't intermingle as much as the
Speaker 4: rest of us, and they weren't in a hot zone
Speaker 4: like Sicily. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I read something the other day that they dated I
Speaker 3: don't know if they dated bones or artifacts that they found. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it completely resets what they were thinking. And I
Speaker 3: think it was when we when supposedly we went from
Speaker 3: what was it Neanderthal into humans, And it sets that
Speaker 3: date back a lot further than they originally thought, right,
Speaker 3: just based on that that they've done, that that this
Speaker 3: this group of individuals were able to make tools and
Speaker 3: do something anyway, whatever they found, it puts it thousands
Speaker 3: of years before they ever thought, oh.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm killing my cot. There we go.
Speaker 3: So think of next, I changed the whole thing of things.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, but here's the thing. Science is a continuous
Speaker 4: process of rediscovery, right, and refinement anyway, So I expect
Speaker 4: that the idea of you know, something like evolution needs
Speaker 4: constant refinement in order to get it straight, you know.
Speaker 4: And how do you deal with I found a bone
Speaker 4: in some dirt. You got to figure out what it
Speaker 4: is when it got there, you know, what happened to it?
Speaker 4: How you know all that? So I mean there's a
Speaker 4: whole lot of stuff happening here. And then there's guys
Speaker 4: who want to put, you know, saddles on dinosaurs and
Speaker 4: tell you that that's right.
Speaker 3: I'm not arguing that's something I don't stand. You know,
Speaker 3: they have all of these skeletons that they found, right,
Speaker 3: but yet they give us depictions of dinosaurs like a
Speaker 3: Tyrontosaurus rex. Everybody knows what a Tyrannosaurus rex looks like,
Speaker 3: but they're only going by bones now. I don't know
Speaker 3: if they have found any fossilize. I mean, we know
Speaker 3: what a wooly mammoth looks like because they have unearthed
Speaker 3: frozen wooly mammoths. Okay, true, but do we really know
Speaker 3: what a t rex looks like based off its skeleton? Well?
Speaker 4: See, there you go.
Speaker 3: Is it all just artists? Artists? You know, it's an
Speaker 3: artist rendering of what they think it should look like.
Speaker 4: Well, there's an interpretation there, right, And there's certain characteristics
Speaker 4: with certain types of animals, like, for instance, you can
Speaker 4: tell the difference between the bone of something called a
Speaker 4: bird right as a posed to say the bones of
Speaker 4: a you know, land walking mammal. They have different characteristics
Speaker 4: in their bones so you can generally see that maybe
Speaker 4: this is more birdlike, maybe this is more reptilian. So
Speaker 4: you gotta guess. But I'm sure that you know, the
Speaker 4: colors might be all wrong. I mean, you know, if
Speaker 4: we traveled back in time, we might be shocked to
Speaker 4: find that, you know, the t rex was actually a giant, hot,
Speaker 4: pink thing. I mean in appearance, who knows, Okay, but
Speaker 4: they make claims about this, and obviously, with even the
Speaker 4: bones of a person, they can often make a fairly
Speaker 4: accurate thing. Now they used to think they could, and
Speaker 4: the original way they did it was wrong, but they
Speaker 4: corrected it, and now they've found verifiable stuff where it's
Speaker 4: like the reconstruction does turn out accurate among people, where
Speaker 4: you know, you can get quite a few variations, and
Speaker 4: they come pretty damn clothes. You know, you can tell
Speaker 4: how no, how big the nose is, even though the
Speaker 4: nose is not present because of the sockets. You know,
Speaker 4: it's just that simple. But there are a lot of
Speaker 4: other characteristics that could be present that we just simply
Speaker 4: don't know, you know. And and some of that stuff
Speaker 4: I suspect was made up in order to make a
Speaker 4: coherent looking thing. Uh So you know, but but as
Speaker 4: per usual, refinement right and reassessments and in fact, you know,
Speaker 4: literally changing the historical record as you go. Right. It
Speaker 4: is part of the process, no matter what you're trying
Speaker 4: to do. If you weren't there to see it for yourself,
Speaker 4: the evidence can take you so far, like even in
Speaker 4: re you know, reenactments, where people think they've got it
Speaker 4: absolutely lock solid, we know what happened this, this is
Speaker 4: how many bullets were there, this is how many people
Speaker 4: were there, and then a radical thing comes in that
Speaker 4: can't be recorded in the crime scene. Let's say like
Speaker 4: a completely missed shot that landed you know, eight hundred
Speaker 4: yards away that nobody found right, and it could be
Speaker 4: a gun battle, and now we've got you know, extra
Speaker 4: shooters that were bad shots or that you know, happened
Speaker 4: to be standing close to a known shooter, and therefore
Speaker 4: they disappear because it gets lumped in with the known
Speaker 4: shooter in a gunfight or in a knife fight where
Speaker 4: they assume that something is you know, actually this long,
Speaker 4: the weapon was this long, it was this thick, And
Speaker 4: it turns out that if you take a look at
Speaker 4: what is preserved in the bone, which is harder evidence
Speaker 4: than the flesh which is long gone. You find that
Speaker 4: you thought you had a six inch knife, You have
Speaker 4: a sixteen inch knife, you know, and that tempered steel
Speaker 4: is thick. You didn't know it because of the original
Speaker 4: things that you knew were wounds to the bone. And
Speaker 4: meanwhile there's something where you know, there's some other evidence
Speaker 4: nearby that absolutely records something to contradict that it has occurred.
Speaker 4: I've studied lots of different forensics, not just the big
Speaker 4: name cases, and the thing is, no matter what, there
Speaker 4: is a margin of error on a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: steps at different times in history, and they are improving
Speaker 4: over time. You know, much like an X ray. There
Speaker 4: was a very crude, rudimentary X ray at a certain point,
Speaker 4: they refined it. They refined it. The process still to
Speaker 4: this day is similar, but the collection is easier and
Speaker 4: if it is properly done with a properly you know,
Speaker 4: maintained machine, on good film, etc. Blah blah, you can
Speaker 4: now obtain it, you know, which is my worry about
Speaker 4: the non physical you know, hard copy recordings of records
Speaker 4: now that we have because you know, again, with the
Speaker 4: wrong behavior out of the sun on any given day,
Speaker 4: we could have a circumstance where a whole lot of
Speaker 4: you know, supposedly alleged permanent records become not so permanent,
Speaker 4: you know, And then if we're only left with what
Speaker 4: was preserved on paper, b pete. It might draw a
Speaker 4: completely different picture from what people assume to have been
Speaker 4: the history up to now, just saying as it's reconstructed,
Speaker 4: it's difficult to reconstruct. And oh, by the way, a
Speaker 4: lot of ancient peoples did not take notes on things
Speaker 4: they were doing on a daily basis to even survive.
Speaker 4: You know, they could tell you a million things about
Speaker 4: what went on in this village and you look around
Speaker 4: and go, yeah, but where did the water come from?
Speaker 4: And sometimes the scholar has no friggin clue. And that's
Speaker 4: an important point, because the people occupying that place at
Speaker 4: certain points would be very concerned about where their water
Speaker 4: was coming from. You know, they weren't going to go
Speaker 4: it's okay, I'll pick it up at Costco later. They
Speaker 4: were concerned about this pretty pretty constantly, I think. But
Speaker 4: that's not always part of the story, is it. So
Speaker 4: you know, they tell you about, well, they made deals
Speaker 4: with the local town and they built things, and nobody
Speaker 4: tells you where the wood necessarily came from, or did
Speaker 4: they just take some other building and tear it down
Speaker 4: and rebuild it with the broken parts, which they've discovered
Speaker 4: several times in different like you know cities and things
Speaker 4: where it's like, oh, what happened here? Is that they recycled,
Speaker 4: you know, from a you know, failing building they took. Well,
Speaker 4: the stones are still good, the beams are still good.
Speaker 4: If we bring in some new beams, we can have
Speaker 4: basically a brand new, refurbished building. And they'll pick up
Speaker 4: the building from one lot, move it over to the next,
Speaker 4: basically piece by piece. And while you have one structure
Speaker 4: that vanished and another that has now been erected, and
Speaker 4: they're made up almost you know, almost completely or nearly completely,
Speaker 4: or with the greater majority of the materials having been
Speaker 4: something that somebody brought here two hundred years ago, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So history is always to be
Speaker 4: revised with care, and it's not necessarily always the most
Speaker 4: obvious answer to the question the progression or anything else.
Speaker 4: And I think this is worthy of consideration. And you
Speaker 4: think I'm just talking out of my ass to hear
Speaker 4: my own voice, don't you.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's the way they find stuff. It's
Speaker 3: like I read a pre long article the other day
Speaker 3: about how they found the remains of Richard the Third
Speaker 3: in England and it was, you know, actually underneath a
Speaker 3: car park, and you know, you just think about being
Speaker 3: the lady. They told a story somebody was in the
Speaker 3: office of the business that had the parking area and all,
Speaker 3: and guy walks in and says, you know, you guys
Speaker 3: are getting ready to start this work and redoing all
Speaker 3: this stuff. We need to put a hold on it.
Speaker 3: And why Well, because we think Richard the Third is
Speaker 3: buried under your asphalt. And come to find out he was.
Speaker 3: You know, it was a lucky guess and they dug
Speaker 3: down and they found him. And you think about societies,
Speaker 3: you know, you think about the things that we haven't
Speaker 3: found yet. They're digging up stuff in Jerusalem that has
Speaker 3: been buried under sixty feet of earth. You know, it's
Speaker 3: like they had a city and there's always been a city,
Speaker 3: but somehow parts of that city got buried under sixty
Speaker 3: feet of garbage and dirt.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: It's strange, how because you look at that that those
Speaker 3: societies and around Jerusalem, that area dates back over three
Speaker 3: thousand years, you know, So you look at that length
Speaker 3: of time and it's amazing to think that the whole
Speaker 3: city could be buried and we don't know it, you know,
Speaker 3: sixty feet of dirt on top of it. What is
Speaker 3: there that much erosion that's been going on in three
Speaker 3: thousand years that could bury something that deep while people
Speaker 3: are still living there. That's the thing. It's just amazing
Speaker 3: how history gets buried in an area that people are
Speaker 3: living in the entire time. It's weird.
Speaker 4: Well, sometimes things are abandoned over time and just sort
Speaker 4: of forgotten. And on the other hand, you have circumstances
Speaker 4: like Pompeii where they are you know, flash frozen in
Speaker 4: you know, in life instantly because of a volcano. It happens.
Speaker 4: So I'm just saying it's you know, it's one of
Speaker 4: these things that, yeah, it's going to take some consideration
Speaker 4: and a lot of people aren't going to believe certain
Speaker 4: things that heard to cause that. You know, there's people
Speaker 4: literally frozen in the midst of doing mundane crap, you know,
Speaker 4: around volcanoes because flash they're you know, they're basically dead
Speaker 4: and they're covered in crap. That Mumma fies them done. Uh,
Speaker 4: it's pretty wild. And you know, with that in mind,
Speaker 4: I got a personal story to get into, unless you
Speaker 4: want to get into something else.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: Before we go into the second hour already and hopefully
Speaker 4: get some calls at three one nine, five, two seven,
Speaker 4: five zero one six, I want to see if we
Speaker 4: can connect repete before I got to try and do
Speaker 4: Aaron an Uncle because I don't know if the phone
Speaker 4: calls will work tonight. Uh. Or we could try to
Speaker 4: rediu jitsu in the break and see if we can
Speaker 4: make that work one way or another.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: But uh, I would like to see if we can
Speaker 4: connect phone calls. But I got a personal thing to
Speaker 4: tell you that I'm kind of embarrassed to admit, but
Speaker 4: I want to analyze it because you guys out there
Speaker 4: have an experians that I have never had in my
Speaker 4: life up to now, and it's pretty wild, so you know,
Speaker 4: and I didn't expect it, and it's what caused me
Speaker 4: to only do the Monday show and then do nothing
Speaker 4: on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, except apparently I did do
Speaker 4: I think this week Hell in high Water with Maria
Speaker 4: and oh, by the way, this is our second Friday
Speaker 4: the thirteenth in a row because of the twenty eight
Speaker 4: days in February, so I didn't even know it the
Speaker 4: last time we were having a Friday of the thirteenth.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's what happened to our communications earlier. But anything
Speaker 4: you want to discuss for a bit or vent about
Speaker 4: before I go into something else that I'm sure you're
Speaker 4: gonna have fun with.
Speaker 3: Well, it's been a hectic week. I haven't really had
Speaker 3: a chance to look at the news all that often.
Speaker 3: I mean, other than us still being at war and Iran.
Speaker 3: I did run across one thing today. Robert de Niro
Speaker 3: has been pretty vocal about Trump and things that he dislikes,
Speaker 3: and I find it very hilarious that he made a
Speaker 3: statement that says he now has no choice but to
Speaker 3: leave New York City after Zohannami, the official you know,
Speaker 3: the mayor, decided to start taxing people, and it says,
Speaker 3: according to De Niro, the new administration wants to take
Speaker 3: nearly half of his savings simply because he's considered wealthy.
Speaker 3: He says, yeah, I haven't worked in some time, and
Speaker 3: my savings are all I have. So now he's being
Speaker 3: forced to move from New York, where he's been I guess,
Speaker 3: his whole life all because of a new mayor and
Speaker 3: the news regime starting to squeeze people for their cash.
Speaker 3: And I find it hilarious that he's had to go
Speaker 3: through it. And I'm just wondering if he's willing to
Speaker 3: f Mom Dommy as much as he's willing to f Trump.
Speaker 3: And Trump ain't the one to screw it around with him.
Speaker 3: That's the part I find ironic.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, here we go again. It's never a
Speaker 4: clear cut answer. And every time there is a significant
Speaker 4: regime change in a populated place, doesn't this happen pretty much?
Speaker 4: I mean, weren't people crying and screaming that they were
Speaker 4: leaving California and fleeing, and people every time I bring
Speaker 4: it up, go.
Speaker 3: Yep, they're going to Texas, And oh well now that's
Speaker 3: been the big story. Now a lot of them, A
Speaker 3: lot of them are going to Texas. A lot of
Speaker 3: them going to Florida too because of the tax situation. Okay,
Speaker 3: the guy that they had Starbucks up in Seattle, I
Speaker 3: don't know if he's gone to Texas, but he pulled out.
Speaker 3: There was another huge company up in Seattle that pulled
Speaker 3: out because of this wealth tax they're talking about. California
Speaker 3: has lost quite a few people moving because of the
Speaker 3: wealth tax they want to impose. Because they're not only
Speaker 3: talking about taxing actual money that you have, but also
Speaker 3: the unrealized value of stocks and holdings and businesses and
Speaker 3: things of that nature. Was they call it unrealized games.
Speaker 3: They want to tax you on the value something that
Speaker 3: tomorrow the whole market could change and crash. Whatever it
Speaker 3: is you have, whatever you're invested in. Of course they
Speaker 3: want to tax on what it's worth now. They don't
Speaker 3: give a damn what happens after they get their money
Speaker 3: until next year when they come back for more.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 3: So you know, I hope all these people that you know,
Speaker 3: I've always said, you get the policy. You know, you
Speaker 3: deserve the government you elect. Well, it's coming back to
Speaker 3: bite these people in the ass.
Speaker 4: Well sure, but you know my counter argument, like, first
Speaker 4: of all, you know, taxation is a big, you know,
Speaker 4: rigged system of the government just getting their cut no
Speaker 4: matter who's holding the knife anyway, And to me, it's
Speaker 4: nothing more than a protection racket where you're not guaranteed
Speaker 4: protection in my mind, Okay, very simple, So all taxes
Speaker 4: chain is taxation. Excuse me as theft anyway, okay in
Speaker 4: my mind, but it's a justified theft now, given that
Speaker 4: people want to root for and root against the taxes. Anyway,
Speaker 4: here's the thing to consider. Realized gains. Sounds like, hey,
Speaker 4: I didn't get anything out of this yet, and you're
Speaker 4: taking money from these sounds real unfair. But that's not
Speaker 4: the reality when you get to a certain level, is it.
Speaker 4: Because guys like this will turn around put their assets
Speaker 4: somewhere where they're allegedly not gaining on it, even though
Speaker 4: the value is gaining and is compiling upon itself. It's cumulative, right,
Speaker 4: And here's the fun part. They turn around and get
Speaker 4: loans against stuff that they're supposedly not touching. And you
Speaker 4: can easily live off of loans. If you've got one
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars, you can sit there and live high
Speaker 4: and mighty with just that money and loans. And you
Speaker 4: have loans. See, this is how Jeff Bezos ended up
Speaker 4: in a position where he owns Amazon and yet got
Speaker 4: a tax break that most people had to earn less
Speaker 4: than fifty thousand dollars a year okay, in genuine income
Speaker 4: in order to collect for a child tax credit, and
Speaker 4: it's like, how is that possible? A guy who owns
Speaker 4: one of the largest entities on the planet got a
Speaker 4: tax break for his child credit that was meant for
Speaker 4: poor people. Well, I tried to tell people at the time.
Speaker 4: Nobody wanted to listen because either they were rooting for
Speaker 4: the billionaires and thought I was, you know, a cry
Speaker 4: maybe liberal about it, or they thought I didn't know
Speaker 4: what I was talking about because that couldn't be possible.
Speaker 4: But it happened. It was publicly accessible knowledge, it was
Speaker 4: open source. It happened. He got COVID checks. Bezos. Okay,
Speaker 4: so you know where is I mean, if you think
Speaker 4: there's somebody that would be at the front of the
Speaker 4: line for he don't need a COVID check, it would
Speaker 4: be Jeff Bezos. But technically speaking, he swims in un
Speaker 4: you know, those unachieved assets. You know, he swims in
Speaker 4: that and lives off of what he can take from it. Now,
Speaker 4: why is this even worthy of discussing, because that's something Bpete,
Speaker 4: you don't have because you don't have those assets that
Speaker 4: you're controlling but allegedly not touching or not really controlling,
Speaker 4: but you still kind of own and they're unrealized to you, well,
Speaker 4: you know, your house shovels. Yeah, sorry, but it happens.
Speaker 3: It happens to a lower degree to people that own
Speaker 3: houses and things like that. I mean, their property taxes
Speaker 3: every year, especially in this small town that I'm in.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is only what eight hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: people live in here. Yeah, and they they've got homes
Speaker 3: and sell it for three quarters of a million dollars
Speaker 3: all of a sudden right. And the problem is this,
Speaker 3: we come back with property tax. They say, well, you know,
Speaker 3: you built your house back in nineteen sixty three and
Speaker 3: it costs eighteen thousand dollars. Well, here it is sixty
Speaker 3: years later, almost seventy years later. So we're gonna arbitrarily
Speaker 3: just jack that rate up to about seven hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars and tax you on that unrealized capital
Speaker 3: gains even though you haven't sold the house. Now, granted,
Speaker 3: when you go to sell that a house, it probably
Speaker 3: won't go for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. But
Speaker 3: based on what we've looked at around the area and
Speaker 3: the going housing prices in the market, we're going to
Speaker 3: say it's worth that much pay us every year. And
Speaker 3: you're starting to see a lot of states now trying
Speaker 3: to curb property taxes for people that are over sixty
Speaker 3: five or people that own their house outright. But we'll
Speaker 3: know a lot of young people now, a lot of
Speaker 3: younger people, if they can get to it. Instead of
Speaker 3: the standard thirty year mortgage, they're getting fifteen year mortgages,
Speaker 3: paying it off in half the time. The problem is
Speaker 3: most people don't stay in a house long enough to
Speaker 3: pay off the mortgage. They're there for a certain number
Speaker 3: of years and then they trade up, they sell what
Speaker 3: they got to get something bigger, and you know, the
Speaker 3: cycles puts over for the first time home buyer buying
Speaker 3: that old nineteen sixty house that now needs seventy five
Speaker 3: thousand dollars of repair just to make it livable, or
Speaker 3: the city will come in. I mean, even in this
Speaker 3: small town, they're nailing people for maintenance and things like
Speaker 3: that on houses and finally sending them letters if you
Speaker 3: don't fix this by such and such time, we will
Speaker 3: condemn the property and we will remove the nuisance. In
Speaker 3: this town, two hundred and fifty people, and they're starting
Speaker 3: to pull crap like that it's really getting bad.
Speaker 4: Right. So my point is that really honestly, owning that
Speaker 4: house has the same kind of you didn't realize the gain,
Speaker 4: but you still got to pay for it issue even
Speaker 4: though you're not a rich person. And quite frankly, the
Speaker 4: bigger you go, the less of it you have to pay.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just the bottom line, because what happens
Speaker 4: is they're not you know, rich guy isn't paying that
Speaker 4: as a matter of fact, his write offs or losses.
Speaker 4: Like he goes in and fixes up that house that's
Speaker 4: perfect for him, he's got to lose some money. That
Speaker 4: balance is off on paper what it is he's got
Speaker 4: to pay to the point where it's an art form.
Speaker 4: You know, you can have a billion dollars move around
Speaker 4: and you pay zero tax. Meanwhile, somebody that does own
Speaker 4: a house and has a couple hundred thousand dollars move
Speaker 4: around because of that house, they're paying shit. So you know,
Speaker 4: I'm just saying it's not fair anyway. And the thing
Speaker 4: is they're getting away with it because the bottom line
Speaker 4: is the bigger you go, the better. So it's good
Speaker 4: for you know, and Trump I told you this himself. Look,
Speaker 4: I was a smart businessman because I totally lost money
Speaker 4: for a couple of years. I lost a billion dollars.
Speaker 4: That was great for me, you know why, because it
Speaker 4: wrote off whatever it was he was gaining. And here's
Speaker 4: the fun part. You or I who are at that
Speaker 4: lower level, we can't continuously borrow off of some gigantic
Speaker 4: asset pool for our house. We're very limited in the
Speaker 4: money that we can borrow against the stuff we own,
Speaker 4: and we don't necessarily get the privilege of endless refinancing
Speaker 4: till you die, and you know, and then that gets
Speaker 4: wiped away, and a whole bunch of other Every time
Speaker 4: a new loophole emerges, even if it only lasts two years,
Speaker 4: it erases a whole lot of you know, debt that
Speaker 4: you would owe for income you made by the loans
Speaker 4: and stuff and the shuffle. So over the course of time,
Speaker 4: you pay zero, You borrow against billions, so you live
Speaker 4: on tens of minus millions and you never wind up
Speaker 4: paying any of it back. And so tell me somebody
Speaker 4: that's able to do that with their house and car
Speaker 4: and you know debt against it. No way, it doesn't
Speaker 4: happen that way because you're locked. But you get to
Speaker 4: a certain level. And now you're allowed to live tax free.
Speaker 4: I mean, you might as well be a church, no tax,
Speaker 4: and you do a lot of things that you want.
Speaker 4: There's a whole lot of shady stuff on the books
Speaker 4: that is built into the system. And you are Reverend
Speaker 4: loves cash and that's all there is to it, baby,
Speaker 4: and you are of the religion of the New Jesus
Speaker 4: who wears rotos. Oh you know, I'm just saying, yeah, good.
Speaker 3: Recently, recently you've had things hit the news like wasn't
Speaker 3: Illhannah Well yeah, Ilana Omar was one of them where
Speaker 3: forty you know, she was worth fifteen thousand dollars. Now
Speaker 3: she's worth thirty million. Yeah, And people are wondering how
Speaker 3: that happen, And it happens with every politician basically that
Speaker 3: goes to Washington. You look at people like Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 3: and John Kerry when he was in Congress but also
Speaker 3: as Secretary of State and things like that. They're making money.
Speaker 3: A politician I've got let's say I decide to run
Speaker 3: for for a Republican seat in the North Carolina section
Speaker 3: of our federal government. Okay, I'm running as a representative
Speaker 3: as a congressman. Let's say I bit a million dollars.
Speaker 3: The first thing I do is find a family member
Speaker 3: to run a PR firm, go start an LLC as
Speaker 3: a PR consultant. Then I take all my campaign money
Speaker 3: that I can't spend on myself. It has to be
Speaker 3: spent on campaigns. And I turn around. I raised five million.
Speaker 3: I give four million of it to my PR company,
Speaker 3: who happens to be my brother or my wife, my kid.
Speaker 3: And they turn around and take that four million, and
Speaker 3: there's really not a lot to regulate what they spend
Speaker 3: it on. They turned right back around and give three
Speaker 3: and a half million of the four million I gave
Speaker 3: them back to me. And you do that a couple
Speaker 3: of times. Suddenly you're worth thirty million dollars. You know,
Speaker 3: you run through Chrishmen are elected every two years. So
Speaker 3: we go through this fundraising cycle, constantly building money, building money.
Speaker 3: And I want to run an ad. Okay, I call
Speaker 3: my brother up. I want to run an ad. He
Speaker 3: comes up with ad material. We run a few spots,
Speaker 3: cost US one hundred thousand dollars. He pockets four hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. I pocket three and a half million. That's
Speaker 3: a pretty good damn deal. Yeah, see that, And people
Speaker 3: are looking at this going you know, we elect you
Speaker 3: people to go and make it easier on us, bring
Speaker 3: down our cost of living. And the proof of it
Speaker 3: is this matter whether we've had a Republican or Democrat
Speaker 3: in this President's chair, no matter who has controlled the Senate,
Speaker 3: whether Republicans or the Democrat, Republicans are all getting richer. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we are all getting poorer. Yeah, and people are
Speaker 3: finally starting to catch wind of it. You're thinking, this
Speaker 3: has been going on since, you know, big time, since
Speaker 3: the forties, the fifties. Why is it taken seventy damn
Speaker 3: years for people to real how badly they're getting I
Speaker 3: don't get it.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the problem. You're thinking, too small, me, Pete.
Speaker 4: You are describing the mom and pop version of this.
Speaker 4: You know, you're talking about a lemonade stand versus a
Speaker 4: multi layered, you know, corporate entity that brings convenience stores
Speaker 4: to a neighborhood. You're talking about the smallest You're talking
Speaker 4: about the local card game versus the casino. Dude, that
Speaker 4: what you're talking about is is low level and constant.
Speaker 4: And that's just the intro.
Speaker 5: But That's the level I live at, and all the
Speaker 5: people that I know live at, that's the level that
Speaker 5: they have to deal with this. I realize between the
Speaker 5: Waltons and the big tech companies and the Bezoses and
Speaker 5: the head.
Speaker 3: Of Microsoft, they're on a much bigger, grander scale. I
Speaker 3: understand that they're gonna be there no matter how bad
Speaker 3: it is on the everyday people. Those people that run
Speaker 3: the Amazons and the Walmarts and the things of that
Speaker 3: nature are always going to be there. You're not going
Speaker 3: to be able to get rid of them unless you
Speaker 3: completely change society and the way commercialism works. Capitalism is
Speaker 3: going to have to change for that to change, But
Speaker 3: it's the majority of the people are dealing with it
Speaker 3: on an everyday basis. And that's why I don't think
Speaker 3: about the Amazon's level and this level. Globally, we're all
Speaker 3: fucked because of the the lack of diversity globally, of
Speaker 3: interconnections between companies what they own here and abroad. You're
Speaker 3: not going to be able to get away from that.
Speaker 3: But there's so many people out here that have been
Speaker 3: getting so screwed over for so long that it's finally,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's like they've had their cataract surgery
Speaker 3: and they can finally see just how bad they're getting
Speaker 3: screwed every single day, not on globals, just by the
Speaker 3: people that we send to Damn Washington is bad enough,
Speaker 3: but you're going to do away with purple effects of
Speaker 3: rich versus poor. But you could make it a little
Speaker 3: more damn beneficial to those on the lower half of
Speaker 3: the people in the United States don't pay any taxes
Speaker 3: at all, right, you know, just all right, so just
Speaker 3: go ahead them out of the equation. The other half
Speaker 3: that does have to pay taxes, forty nine percent of well,
Speaker 3: let's say ninety nine percent of those that do pay
Speaker 3: taxes are not up. They are on that global scale
Speaker 3: with the Bezoses and everybody else. Duke Energy CEO probably
Speaker 3: takes eleven, you know, million dollars a year plus stock
Speaker 3: options plus bonuses, so he's pulling in probably thirty million
Speaker 3: a year. And my power bill will last month it's
Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five bucks just to keep my
Speaker 3: pipe from freezing. All because they can charge play one
Speaker 3: and we can't do any damn thing about it because
Speaker 3: they're a monopoly in nine freaking states.
Speaker 4: Well, but here's the part, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: There from the level because that's what I deal with
Speaker 3: and most of the people I know deal with.
Speaker 4: Okay. The part I don't understand about your argument, okay,
Speaker 4: and the argument that comes from a certain side of
Speaker 4: the equation, is this the way things stand. Okay. Those
Speaker 4: six families that control forty percent of the wealth literally
Speaker 4: in the country. That's what's going on in America. By
Speaker 4: the way, there's literally six families that have control over
Speaker 4: not you know, and and do this whole dance like
Speaker 4: what I was talking about, where they borrow against the
Speaker 4: unrealized assets constantly and that's how they live, so they
Speaker 4: never technically touch them. Those people, six families do that.
Speaker 4: The Waltons is one of them. And when an introduction
Speaker 4: comes that says, listen, why don't we just tax people
Speaker 4: who have over one hundred million dollars, there is resistance.
Speaker 4: I don't understand that because you know, in some of
Speaker 4: these bills that have been introduced, it's like, sorry.
Speaker 3: No, just if they're gonna we're gonna everybody's got over
Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars, we're gonna hit them. We're gonna
Speaker 3: take half of what they got for everything. Over one
Speaker 3: hundred million. Then they find out that's not enough because
Speaker 3: and kissed in the United States, I mean trillions are
Speaker 3: we in debt? Yeah, you know, our deficit is as
Speaker 3: bad that load. So you hit those groups one hundred
Speaker 3: million and more, Well, it's not going to be long
Speaker 3: before they start lowering that bar. One hundred million, one billion,
Speaker 3: We'll hit everybody over one million. Well, that's not going
Speaker 3: to pay the bill either. Let's hit everybody over fifty thousand.
Speaker 3: Now you're talking about the average guy out there trying
Speaker 3: to get to work and pay the bills, put his
Speaker 3: kid through school.
Speaker 4: But that's the funny.
Speaker 3: So that's why they're so reluctant to do it, because
Speaker 3: it's like Bernie Bernie Sanders love him to death, he
Speaker 3: can't stand a billionaire. Well, he used to bitch about
Speaker 3: millionaires until he became one. Now it's the billionaires that
Speaker 3: are pissing him off. If he were to become a
Speaker 3: billionaire's like he was bitching about the war and Iran,
Speaker 3: and I just thought, well, they took out the Ayatola
Speaker 3: and all of his chain of command. So there's probably
Speaker 3: three or four billionaires in that group that we got right.
Speaker 3: But did that satisfy that Bernie, No, he still had
Speaker 3: to pitch about it.
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's all.
Speaker 3: What people that want to clip out out of Eden
Speaker 3: that's got everything. Where you draw the line, do you,
Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos. Let's say he's got a hundred bazillion dollars
Speaker 3: right now, and we take half of it, right we
Speaker 3: take fifty berzillion dollars he still got In a couple
Speaker 3: of years, he's going to be right back up there
Speaker 3: to one hundred bazillion dollars. How do you break up
Speaker 3: those six families that run everything without totally destroying the
Speaker 3: economy and the process.
Speaker 4: Well, see ten minutes ago, I tried to interrupt and
Speaker 4: tell you that we already discussed how this is handled.
Speaker 4: And this is the missing part of the equation. I
Speaker 4: can't see him to get through it to anybody on
Speaker 4: that lower scale where they're allegedly not paying taxes. Okay,
Speaker 4: there's an area where they are, and it's all in
Speaker 4: small amounts and things like property taxes because you live
Speaker 4: in your house as opposed to it being an unrealized
Speaker 4: asset and all of that stuff. The people that go
Speaker 4: for what they think is, you know, property ownership and
Speaker 4: that proud thing that's supposed to be so great is
Speaker 4: already bleeding them, So you can't you know, you're not
Speaker 4: supposed to anyway tax the same thing twice, right Like,
Speaker 4: if you tax it once, you can't say, okay, I
Speaker 4: came back around, so I'm going to tax it again.
Speaker 4: If that income and those assets are already being handled
Speaker 4: via the property taxes and this and that, that should
Speaker 4: be what divides it that the people that have a
Speaker 4: static situation where they're not picking up income very specifically,
Speaker 4: if they're living off of the loans from the unrealized assets.
Speaker 4: If you stay to the specifics in this, then there
Speaker 4: is no conflict because it never touches you or me.
Speaker 4: We don't have loans against unrealized assets. If we take
Speaker 4: out a loan, one of us and one of anybody
Speaker 4: who's making less than two hundred thousand dollars a year
Speaker 4: takes out a loan, it's for a home you live in.
Speaker 4: It's for a vacation property that you're generating income off of,
Speaker 4: not just sitting there and borrowing against. You see the
Speaker 4: specific difference there, So I don't see I see that difference.
Speaker 3: The only way you're gonna be but the only way
Speaker 3: to be able to do that is to completely overhaul
Speaker 3: the tax structure, which needs to be done badly. In
Speaker 3: that remember back to all argument with warm Warren Buffet
Speaker 3: plays pays less of a rate of income tax than
Speaker 3: his secretary.
Speaker 6: Well, that's.
Speaker 3: Secretary is getting paid a salary, and so she gets
Speaker 3: snaled right off the top of or some taxes, centeral taxes.
Speaker 3: All that comes off the top. The problem is Warren
Speaker 3: Buffett's getting paid dividends, or he's getting paid payment. He's
Speaker 3: getting paid in ways that are not considered income according
Speaker 3: to the test schedule, or they're considered like a capital gains.
Speaker 3: The basic the lowest amount you're gonna pay income taxes
Speaker 3: ten percent up to ten ten thousand dollars okay, or
Speaker 3: twelve thousand dollars. The first tax bracket is ten percent. Okay.
Speaker 3: He's paying seven percent on capital gains, so yes, he
Speaker 3: is paying a lower rate. Now his capital gains are
Speaker 3: bringing him a couple million a year. His secretary at
Speaker 3: best is probably making for Warren Buffett. She might be
Speaker 3: making one to eighty two hundred thousand a year, if
Speaker 3: you know, depending on how much she does. But secretaries
Speaker 3: are a diamond dozen that they come under the tax
Speaker 3: structure that says everything that comes into your pocket, regardless
Speaker 3: of how you got it, is income. Those people like
Speaker 3: Bezos and the rest are not being paid under that system.
Speaker 3: They're not included in that system. They're being paid in
Speaker 3: ways that are either low tax or no tax. And
Speaker 3: until they can in the constitution about income, everything that
Speaker 3: comes into your damn pocket is income and you're gonna
Speaker 3: pay tax on it. So unless they got the whole
Speaker 3: tax system, which I don't see happening anytime. I don't,
Speaker 3: you'll get term limits voted in before you get a
Speaker 3: change in the tax system. Because these damn lawyers in
Speaker 3: Washington are the ones that wrote the code. So all
Speaker 3: these special things, Oh, that's not income, what is it, Well,
Speaker 3: that's capital gains. Well that's income. Oh no, that's not income.
Speaker 3: What is it, Well that's a dividend. See that's not income.
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm talking about, the definite loans. That's
Speaker 4: what I'm talking about with the loans. Okay, hang on
Speaker 4: just a second, because here's the missed thing again. It's
Speaker 4: not just that. Okay, you're right, but here's the problem.
Speaker 4: Not only do they have the ability to pay under
Speaker 4: a different structure, but they can write off things under
Speaker 4: a different structure, which a good accountant brings them to zero. Okay.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing. They have the access to the
Speaker 4: assets without the responsibility of calling it income when they
Speaker 4: take a loan from it or they do dividends or
Speaker 4: any of this crap. And there is where the line
Speaker 4: needs to be drawn. And you're right, it does require
Speaker 4: an entire overhaul. But what gets me is what ends
Speaker 4: up happening in all of these arguments is that they
Speaker 4: deploy via propaganda people to argue against taxing these people
Speaker 4: because theoretically it'll come for them. And the sad part
Speaker 4: is it already has. It's just under a different name.
Speaker 4: It's filed differently. They call you everything you get income,
Speaker 4: so therefore income tax. And also you use the dirty
Speaker 4: word there constitution, As far as I understand it, the
Speaker 4: standing tax structure is not in the constant. Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 3: But that's the gain where you get into the law,
Speaker 3: which is the Constitution, and the code, which is the
Speaker 3: US Code, which is the rules to tell you how
Speaker 3: to implement the law. A lot of people don't understand yes,
Speaker 3: we have a law that says this, but it refers
Speaker 3: to things in the US Code, which are the rules
Speaker 3: how you apply that law. And that's where everything gets
Speaker 3: screwed up. The Constitution says basically, anybody coming into you
Speaker 3: as income and can be taxed. Okay, I'll have a
Speaker 3: problem with that. The problem is they look at businesses
Speaker 3: and I'll give you this example, the Citizens United case
Speaker 3: where they determined that this political Pact could spend money
Speaker 3: to make a documentary about Hillary Clinton before the election
Speaker 3: and places and no, we're not going to do that. Well,
Speaker 3: they claimed that that was a violation of their free speech.
Speaker 3: So they go to court and it goes to the
Speaker 3: Supreme Court and they decide that yes, these business entities,
Speaker 3: these political action committees and these nonprofits businesses, they are
Speaker 3: entities just like an individual when it comes to spending
Speaker 3: money as a form of freedom of speech when it
Speaker 3: comes to political activity. Okay. What they didn't do was
Speaker 3: then change all the other crap that gives these businesses
Speaker 3: the ability to write off all their shit and then
Speaker 3: peck a tax on what's left. If they are going
Speaker 3: to treat them as an individual when it comes to
Speaker 3: spending their money, for political purposes, then they need to
Speaker 3: treat them as an individual when it comes to paying
Speaker 3: taxes and get rid of writ and off all that shit.
Speaker 3: You know, the individual does not get to write off
Speaker 3: their rent, their lights, all the other utilities, their transportation,
Speaker 3: some meals education. They don't get to write off all
Speaker 3: that individual shit that a company does. So they may
Speaker 3: have done a good thing saying that businesses have free
Speaker 3: speech when it comes to spending political money, but they
Speaker 3: didn't retroactively go back. You would think, what is it
Speaker 3: the fourteenth Amendment that says nobody everybody will be treated
Speaker 3: the same by the federal government except when it comes
Speaker 3: to political shit. And the only people that can change
Speaker 3: this are the ones that we elect to these offices
Speaker 3: that are suddenly making one hundred and seventy five thousand
Speaker 3: dollars a year, which is a hell of a lot
Speaker 3: more than most people in this country. Now. Granted, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of people in business making more than that.
Speaker 3: So when we start paying our people to represent us
Speaker 3: that amount of money and give them the ability to
Speaker 3: shuffle politicals money into the personal pockets and they're not
Speaker 3: paying taxes and shit on that because it's a business
Speaker 3: that gets to write off all this stuff before me.
Speaker 3: Until you get them to change it, you're not going
Speaker 3: to change anything. And I think we're at the point
Speaker 3: right now you cannot trust the publicitician bultiple using and
Speaker 3: do anything I fit them and everybody else who's funding them.
Speaker 3: Somebody made comment you other that this person doesn't do
Speaker 3: such and such. That's because the people that are paying
Speaker 3: them to make the decisions that they're making are paying
Speaker 3: them a hell of a lot more than we are. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's where it all comes down to.
Speaker 4: And listen, codes and all this other stuff in you
Speaker 4: know US and of course international product codes and everything else.
Speaker 4: That's one thing. But I would love it for you
Speaker 4: to just do me a favor and isolate the part
Speaker 4: of the constitution that shows me anything resembling this tax
Speaker 4: monster we have in operation, because.
Speaker 3: Because the problem it's not pass Paul, we're gonna there's
Speaker 3: too many lawyers in Washington involved in this ship, and
Speaker 3: they know who to look out for. But that's the
Speaker 3: people paid them big money.
Speaker 4: Okay. I'm not asking Yeah, I'm not asking for the
Speaker 4: lawyers in the legal ease. I'm literally saying to you,
Speaker 4: please show me because I want to learn where the
Speaker 4: you know thing that we have operating. Okay, as as
Speaker 4: tax collection right now, and tax collection in and of itself,
Speaker 4: let's take a look at where that is codified in
Speaker 4: the Constitution. I want to see it because, you know,
Speaker 4: my memory might be a little screwed up. I was
Speaker 4: going to get into that this week about maybe my
Speaker 4: memory's bad on some of these things. But I got
Speaker 4: to tell you I don't think.
Speaker 3: Listen, there's the Constitution allows Congress to levy taxes.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: But that's all is Anything that comes in will be
Speaker 3: considered income, and Congress has the ability to levy taxes
Speaker 3: on it. Okay, Okay, that's what started. That's the part
Speaker 3: that's in the constitution. However, you have to implement it.
Speaker 3: And how do we implement these laws. We come up
Speaker 3: with a group of people in Washington that work for
Speaker 3: the I R S and can say, okay, write the
Speaker 3: new tax code. Now, they could have done some very
Speaker 3: simple They could have wrote in the code that said
Speaker 3: all income, all incoming moneys.
Speaker 4: All right, See, you're breaking up a lot. Hang on,
Speaker 4: why don't you hang back a little because you're breaking
Speaker 4: up a ton. I don't know if you can hear
Speaker 4: me you're breaking up. You're breaking up a lot.
Speaker 3: You know, will be tax at a rate of annually.
Speaker 3: I don't look at it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you're hearing me. It sounds like
Speaker 4: your voice is straining, plus your internet is straining or
Speaker 4: to reach me somehow, So you know, take a break
Speaker 4: for a minute, please. Obviously I need to have a
Speaker 4: more simplified conversation with somebody about this, because the jump
Speaker 4: off point to me is that things are specifically, uh
Speaker 4: laid out in you know, in constant, in the Constitute,
Speaker 4: in the Constitution itself, they're specifically and directly laid out
Speaker 4: in a certain way. And I think, now I may
Speaker 4: be wrong, and I am not extending myself here as
Speaker 4: even a scholar on this, but it seems to me
Speaker 4: as though there is nothing like what we have going
Speaker 4: on here that is justifiable by the Constitution alone. I
Speaker 4: think we should look at that one of these nights,
Speaker 4: because we've often talked about the Constitution directly, and you
Speaker 4: know how it affects us. Mute be pete, mute yourself
Speaker 4: so that maybe you can build up compression if that's
Speaker 4: what the problem is. I don't know, Like on Skype.
Speaker 4: We used to have to do this every once in
Speaker 4: a while. Mute for a minute, because all you're doing
Speaker 4: is making an internet mitting weird noise, and I want
Speaker 4: you to be heard clearly. If you're going to say something,
Speaker 4: please let me see. Are we still broadcasting.
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 4: We may have had a weird disruption, you know, Friday
Speaker 4: the thirteenth, and internet and all things might have gotten
Speaker 4: wacky here for a second, so we might have lost
Speaker 4: broadcast and all this other stuff. I know it's re
Speaker 4: established now because it's encoding, but just hang back a
Speaker 4: little bit because you're still making nothing but broken noise.
Speaker 4: If you can hear me, be peat, just hang back.
Speaker 4: I think it would be worthy of our not you're
Speaker 4: still you got a mute Yeah, okay, anyway, I think
Speaker 4: it would be worthy of our time and effort to
Speaker 4: sit here and have a discussion where we refer to
Speaker 4: the document itself, the Constitution, and take a look at
Speaker 4: what that really means, because the biggest problem often is that,
Speaker 4: you know, people say, based on the interpretation of this
Speaker 4: and this section, this is what happens, this is what
Speaker 4: should happen, and that has shifted. This is the you
Speaker 4: know function in case people forgot, you know, not to
Speaker 4: pick a political side, but to interpret the Constitution. That
Speaker 4: is what the Supreme Court is supposed to do, because
Speaker 4: the Constitution is supposed to be the supreme law of
Speaker 4: all lands. That it is you know, applicable too. So
Speaker 4: I want to look at that, and I want to
Speaker 4: look at that very carefully one night, have a discussion.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's been had a million times, but it's
Speaker 4: fascinating to me that we wind up going into it
Speaker 4: to this code and that code and this section and
Speaker 4: the irs you know, bylaws. None of these things, to
Speaker 4: my mind, appear to be constitutional. I mean, I can
Speaker 4: also argue that the idea that we have a standing
Speaker 4: army in the United States is not a constitutional concept directly.
Speaker 4: I don't want to do that right now because we're
Speaker 4: just talking taxes.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: We can get into death later. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 4: it's not just us slugging it out with Iran on
Speaker 4: behalf of Israel right now. But there is a wider
Speaker 4: spreading issue happening. And there could have been many other
Speaker 4: things we could have covered tonight, but there's about twenty
Speaker 4: five minutes left in my airtime. I want Bpete to
Speaker 4: build up some strength so he can make some points.
Speaker 4: And I want you guys listening since nobody's calling, to
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Speaker 4: Of course, With the final segment of the Old in
Speaker 4: Line Friday Night Show, we have be Pete with us,
Speaker 4: and we have a caller. So before I get into
Speaker 4: the retort and have B Pete start talking, let's see
Speaker 4: if he can even hear the callers, because we couldn't
Speaker 4: get on through our usual path and we're gonna need
Speaker 4: to start having new communications and a new platform for
Speaker 4: even him and idahook up on in order to make
Speaker 4: this work going forward, because otherwise you people are gonna
Speaker 4: be just stuck with me, no guests being able to
Speaker 4: hear your calls, no call in show. If I can't
Speaker 4: sort this out again, even though I'm paying for stuff,
Speaker 4: it doesn't necessarily mean it keeps working. But let's see
Speaker 4: if B Pete can hear Danny in California or not,
Speaker 4: because that who is who appears to be on the line,
Speaker 4: And if he can't, I'm gonna try and sort it,
Speaker 4: but we'll see what happens. So, Danny, Hello, how are you?
Speaker 4: And I know you're not cold like I was to
Speaker 4: but what's up? Maybe b Pte can hear you? What's
Speaker 4: going on?
Speaker 6: And how are you.
Speaker 4: Okay? B Pete? Did you hear him.
Speaker 3: Up?
Speaker 4: B Pete? Are you still there?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 3: Are we still here? No, you're there, You're there, just
Speaker 3: woke up, grabbed a beer and.
Speaker 4: No, you're here, Danny. But the thing is, at the
Speaker 4: beginning of the show, I said, I don't know if
Speaker 4: B Pete's going to be able to hear us because
Speaker 4: of the way things are. Let me see if this
Speaker 4: happened here and if it is now. Oh wait a minute, now,
Speaker 4: maybe B Pete can hear us. B Pete, can you
Speaker 4: hear me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been sitting here.
Speaker 4: Okay, now quickly, can Danny say something? And let's see
Speaker 4: if BP can hear you?
Speaker 3: VP?
Speaker 6: Can I get a weather report of North Carolina?
Speaker 4: Did you hear him? VP?
Speaker 3: No, not at all?
Speaker 4: Nothing, Okay, see, let me try something. Guys, both of
Speaker 4: you hold on, don't talk yet. I'll cue you and
Speaker 4: let's see if we can get a conversation going where
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try and play with the audio settings now
Speaker 4: on our good friend mister Teams, which I absolutely hate.
Speaker 4: All right, let's try changing the microphone first, and it
Speaker 4: looks like I'm still there, Danny, go ahead and say something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're cold, Yeah, it was cold.
Speaker 4: Here yesterday, I think B Pete. Can you hear Danny?
Speaker 3: No, not at all?
Speaker 4: All right, hang on, we'll try one other thing and
Speaker 4: see if this works because I have the sound card
Speaker 4: set and now I have a different audio setting for
Speaker 4: the other stuff, and I got one more possible setting
Speaker 4: to try. Danny say something, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 6: A bit morem here in California, starting to.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 4: Okay, Danny just went on computer noise. But could you
Speaker 4: hear him be Pete.
Speaker 3: Yes, I could.
Speaker 4: Oh, I might have found a solution to this, all right.
Speaker 4: So Danny was asking generally speaking about the weather, even
Speaker 4: though he went a little robotic there, and it might
Speaker 4: be due to my changing settings while he was talking,
Speaker 4: but at least he's able to be heard and you
Speaker 4: can hear him, and hopefully he can hear you. So
Speaker 4: he wanted to know what the weather was like, and
Speaker 4: I'll turn this all the way up. He wanted to
Speaker 4: know what the weather was like in North Carolina recently,
Speaker 4: because we didn't get a weather report from you today.
Speaker 3: We had it was eighty degrees the past three days,
Speaker 3: and yesterday a storm blew through took down a couple
Speaker 3: of limbs in my front and took them. Yeah, oh.
Speaker 4: All right, well, yeah, he had windy hook.
Speaker 3: Up, so we had it went from nice sunny weather
Speaker 3: in the mountains at sixty to snow and the very
Speaker 3: next morning there we go.
Speaker 4: So that's what happened. He had some wind and the
Speaker 4: cable got taken out at one point, and yeah, and
Speaker 4: all that stuff. And you heard that, right, Danny, from him,
Speaker 4: even though some of it was broken up there for
Speaker 4: a second. I heard him very clear, Thank the Lord.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, look, we got a little bit of
Speaker 4: time left, so you know, anything else on your mind,
Speaker 4: but be Pete. I think we need to like start
Speaker 4: a show with that taxation issue and examine the Constitution
Speaker 4: and jump off from there. Maybe we should do that
Speaker 4: next week.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Oh, well we can because I've
Speaker 3: got a page pulled up right here that it explains
Speaker 3: exactly what the code is. It's just where all of
Speaker 3: the laws of the United States. Every six years they
Speaker 3: put out what's called the Code, the US Code, and
Speaker 3: it lists fIF sections. And all right, let's not clob
Speaker 3: let's fit into one of those sections.
Speaker 4: All right, let's not collaborate now. With the seven minutes
Speaker 4: we got left, I say, we art a show next week,
Speaker 4: so we got time to stretch out on it and
Speaker 4: talk about it. But Danny, anything you want to try
Speaker 4: and get in here with you know, I'll overrun a
Speaker 4: little bit if need be, because I want to try
Speaker 4: and let you get in since you helped me test
Speaker 4: and we fixed the damn calls on this.
Speaker 6: Okay, now, just I don't remember what you're talking, grabbed
Speaker 6: a beer, worked all night, But a couple of thoughts. Sure,
Speaker 6: I heard somebody be in an interview about the one
Speaker 6: of the somebody in the Department of War talking about
Speaker 6: the streets of him is and his answer was, we're
Speaker 6: thinking about.
Speaker 3: The streets of him is. Yep, that was his answer. Basically, Yeah.
Speaker 6: He kept talking in circles and then the statement that
Speaker 6: stuck out as we're thinking about it.
Speaker 3: It gives me a lot of confidence.
Speaker 4: Well honest, I mean, isn't that sort of par for
Speaker 4: the course during any time when we interject ourselves into
Speaker 4: an international battlefield one way or another. Isn't that always
Speaker 4: the thing where it's like, here's our defined goal, we're
Speaker 4: gonna do it, but you ask for details and they
Speaker 4: go listen, we can't really give you details. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, fluid situations and such. I mean, isn't that
Speaker 4: the way that usually rolls? Danny? Or am I imagining things?
Speaker 4: I mean that's actually a normal thing during the Trump
Speaker 4: administration here, maybe it's just me.
Speaker 6: This particular administration run things. I heard an interview the
Speaker 6: other day was Robert Wolf.
Speaker 3: He was the president of the.
Speaker 6: S Bank, and he was an advisory when we had
Speaker 6: the two thousand and eight crisis.
Speaker 3: For them, and.
Speaker 6: He sunned up, why were we put in tariffs on
Speaker 6: bananas and coffee when we don't have banana, We don't
Speaker 6: produce bananas and coffees to exchange or protect our own market.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but you know, the oversimplification of that has
Speaker 4: been childish and stupid, to be honest with you. I
Speaker 4: saw that on the late night talk shows, I think
Speaker 4: on Monday, where they were like, well, that's not gonna
Speaker 4: affect bananas and stuff, and I went, uh, well, how
Speaker 4: do your bananas get anywhere by truck? Is this going
Speaker 4: to affect fuel prices?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 4: Is that going to become part of the price of
Speaker 4: the bananas anyway? It sure is. So to say that,
Speaker 4: you know, an oil situation doesn't involve your food is
Speaker 4: just again like childish. Right to say that it's not
Speaker 4: the same effect as directly affecting your food is relevant,
Speaker 4: but it's weird when I watch these guys, like they
Speaker 4: jump on either side of the hurdle depending on what
Speaker 4: point they want to make. But the fact is anything
Speaker 4: that you consume unless it is grown locally, and even
Speaker 4: if it is grown locally to some degree, it'll be
Speaker 4: affected by fuel prices, but more severely if it needs
Speaker 4: to travel in order to get there. I mean, unless
Speaker 4: I'm crazy, because that's actually part of the business you're in.
Speaker 4: You deliver stuff, right, so you know, I mean, I'm
Speaker 4: just saying it seems like there's an oversimplification game going
Speaker 4: on in the media where it's like this guy good,
Speaker 4: that guy bad. Good night. I mean, that's what we're
Speaker 4: getting now, And I don't know, I don't know if
Speaker 4: it's worse when they do that, or if they actually
Speaker 4: try to lie to you to keep you entertained. It's
Speaker 4: getting weird, Danny. I mean, that's the way I'm reacting
Speaker 4: to it. But I'm a weirdo, you know that.
Speaker 6: So you know, Yeah, there's no simplification. It's like it's
Speaker 6: kind of a four year old logic level. Aren't we
Speaker 6: supposed to be adults?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know they're still stuck on But mommy
Speaker 4: makes food. I watched Tim Dillon have like a total
Speaker 4: meltdown during a podcast for a minute, and it was
Speaker 4: this whole thing about you know, I don't know, pedophiles
Speaker 4: and Pizzagate and the Epstein files, and he just totally
Speaker 4: went full on I'm going to oversimplify this complex thing
Speaker 4: that he's been talking about for a couple of years.
Speaker 4: And I was like, wow, that's quite the turn to
Speaker 4: go from. I know the secrets, and I can read
Speaker 4: deeply into the five million pages, you know, in ten
Speaker 4: minutes to go. But it's real simple. It works like this,
Speaker 4: and it's just embarrassingly stupid. I mean I couldn't do
Speaker 4: it with a straight face. So props to these guys
Speaker 4: who were able to go, mommy brings food, so food
Speaker 4: is a mommy thing. I mean, that's what we're looking at,
Speaker 4: you know, because I grew up in a place where
Speaker 4: mommy brought food. Maybe you did it America, yay, And
Speaker 4: that's what we're looking at on the news now. I
Speaker 4: just you know, we're going to attack the view because
Speaker 4: it's a news program. It's not a news program in
Speaker 4: the first place, So what are you doing? You know, like,
Speaker 4: you know, we're democrats all upset about the nouns or
Speaker 4: pronouns you're using. But this bloodshed over here we care
Speaker 4: about when we don't care about the rest of the
Speaker 4: bloodshed going on over there. I mean, it's just hurting
Speaker 4: my head anymore where. It's just like, you know, did
Speaker 4: I not devolve with everybody else? Did I miss? Is
Speaker 4: this what the Mandela effect really looks like? You know,
Speaker 4: when you're in the wrong universe? Not sure, but starting
Speaker 4: to wonder?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 4: Anyway, Danny, I'm sorry I responded with weirdness to you. No,
Speaker 4: but any any final work do you want to any
Speaker 4: final word you want to throw in this week? Because
Speaker 4: we're running right out of time, I realize just now,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, so.
Speaker 6: What No, No, it is it is weird. I mean,
Speaker 6: it's just I'm just I'm just I'm just surprised that people,
Speaker 6: I mean, we're failing upwards. I mean it's just sad,
Speaker 6: you know, I think we're getting exposed. I mean, I
Speaker 6: see that FBI now wants to hire you have c fighters.
Speaker 6: I mean they want to I mean, you're checking beer
Speaker 6: at the hockey game and now you have sea fighters.
Speaker 6: I mean, aren't they supposed to do serious investigations?
Speaker 4: Well they got to, you know, do some investigation before
Speaker 4: they have the big UFC event at the White House
Speaker 4: that is coming up. I think that's in April, isn't it.
Speaker 4: I mean, are they going to do that right around
Speaker 4: Easter where they're literally going to have a UFC fight
Speaker 4: like at the White House? I don't know.
Speaker 3: In the tent, I don't know that. I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: surprised cans do that.
Speaker 4: And by the way, I don't know what I'm going
Speaker 4: to have to listen back to this recording because there
Speaker 4: is literally like a ghost voice almost bleeding into our
Speaker 4: broadcast from somewhere, and I don't think it's audible to
Speaker 4: a lot of people, but there is a male voice
Speaker 4: that is bleeding into our broadcast in a very strange,
Speaker 4: weird way, and this should not be happening. And I
Speaker 4: don't know if everybody else heard it, but I did,
Speaker 4: and if not, I'm going insane or I'm being targeted
Speaker 4: with this sonic weapon because something weird is going on
Speaker 4: right now and I haven't heard any Wow, Okay, go ahead,
Speaker 4: be pete.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it's just a ghost in the machine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it shouldn't be there. So anyway with that, Danny,
Speaker 4: Thanks for calling in. I wish you had called earlier,
Speaker 4: but man, appreciate you for even trying, considering you just
Speaker 4: woke up, and look, you and I have some things
Speaker 4: to discuss because the whole technical issue I had starting
Speaker 4: the show tonight would have been solved with the thing
Speaker 4: you and I discussed off air. So I'm gonna have
Speaker 4: to talk to you about that again soon. And also
Speaker 4: I was hoping to talk to Jimmy James, but I
Speaker 4: guess I'll have to get to him later. Aaron Franz
Speaker 4: is coming up next. So again, thanks Danny for calling in.
Speaker 4: Appreciate you. Talk to you soon. Be Pete. I'll give
Speaker 4: you the final word and we'll get out of here.
Speaker 4: And damn, there goes that voice again. Anyways, go ahead,
Speaker 4: be Pete.
Speaker 3: Maybe the voice is in your head.
Speaker 4: No, no, unless in my head is also lighting up
Speaker 4: a digital sound indicator in front of me as.
Speaker 3: Well, So I'm gonna say Danny didn't hear it, So
Speaker 3: maybe it's on your end. I don't know, but yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll do the tax thing. We'll start off with the
Speaker 3: US code next week. It's a simple explanation. Maybe maybe
Speaker 3: we can get you over that hump and you can
Speaker 3: understand the connections.
Speaker 4: And I'm being honest, start with Adam and I honestly, well,
Speaker 4: I've failed to recognize that it's there. So I would
Speaker 4: like to see it so that we can see exactly
Speaker 4: what it pertains to and see the specifics of it,
Speaker 4: because I suspect that we're looking at something that has
Speaker 4: been hijacked and misused here, so you know, but then again,
Speaker 4: it is the Constitution, so that would be kind of
Speaker 4: normal as well. Uh yeah, And literally, I'm telling you
Speaker 4: I see the sound indicator jumping up. Whether you guys
Speaker 4: can hear it or not, is because I have you
Speaker 4: guys on separate channels. Maybe it's just in my channel,
Speaker 4: but I see it. It is literally causing you know,
Speaker 4: the little sound indicator to jump up a little bit.
Speaker 4: It's not super loud and it's not clear, but it's there. Okay,
Speaker 4: And look if I'm having a stroke, great, anyways, with that,
Speaker 4: repeat your final word was that for the week?
Speaker 3: Well that and I'm looking at a headline here where
Speaker 3: Jasmine Crockett's security guard head was shot by police in
Speaker 3: Texas because of a standoff they were in Dallas, and
Speaker 3: apparently this guy has been running some kind of scam
Speaker 3: for quite some time, so we'll have more news on
Speaker 3: that next week as well, and.
Speaker 4: We're gonna need it because I have a feeling Texas
Speaker 4: is going to be a hotbed, So if I survive
Speaker 4: in the next week, we will rejoin this conversation with
Speaker 4: the Constitution and scam artists may be getting scraped and
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