Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBSY Boston's new video.
Speaker 2: Emma, thank you for introing me. I am Morgan White Junior.
Speaker 2: What a day. Oh my goodness, there are going to
Speaker 2: be so many different places I could take our conversations tonight.
Speaker 2: And I want to let people know my first guest
Speaker 2: will be coming on right after the fifteen break. It
Speaker 2: will be Jacob Wyckoff. And when I coordinated Jacob coming
Speaker 2: on with me, little did I realize he'd be able
Speaker 2: to talk about I'm gonna call it a mini snowstorm, Boss.
Speaker 2: Snow only gets four and a half inches of snow,
Speaker 2: but that's the second time in the past six weeks
Speaker 2: we've gotten snow. So it's something for those of you
Speaker 2: who love snow to applaud and cheer. I'm not in
Speaker 2: that group. Inauguration Day, as of one o'clock in the afternoon,
Speaker 2: our President elect Donald Trump became the commander in chief,
Speaker 2: the president of the United States for the next four years,
Speaker 2: and we'll be addressing that. And I want to let
Speaker 2: you know ABC is going to be breaking in twice
Speaker 2: an hour to give us any more updates about the
Speaker 2: first day of Donald Trump's administration. I as well. I
Speaker 2: can't forget that this is a reflection of Martin Luther
Speaker 2: King Junior's birthday. His birthday was really on the fifteenth
Speaker 2: of January, but they converted that to a Monday holiday,
Speaker 2: and in a way there is a connection between me,
Speaker 2: Morgan w Junior, and Donald Trump. Listen to Beasy News Today.
Speaker 2: Periodically on the news they mentioned a bust of Martin
Speaker 2: Luther King Junior in the rotunda and the artist who
Speaker 2: put their bust together, John Wilson, included me a seventeen
Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen twenty year old Morgan White Junior, and a
Speaker 2: number of his paintings and portraits. He did a selection
Speaker 2: called Young Americans where people who were friends of his
Speaker 2: daughter and son. His daughter was in my homeroom, Rebecca Wilson.
Speaker 2: She and I became friends. Introduced me to her dad
Speaker 2: and her dad said, Morgan, you know I'm an artist
Speaker 2: because his stuff was all over the house. Every floor
Speaker 2: of their health Some brookline was a representation of his
Speaker 2: art work, and he said, I would like to do
Speaker 2: a couple of paintings portraits of you, and he did,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of a bit of pride in my part.
Speaker 2: One of the ones he did of me is hanging
Speaker 2: in a Baltimore museum. There is a John Wilson art
Speaker 2: collection beginning at the Museum of Fine Arts first week
Speaker 2: of February. I do believe. I don't know if any
Speaker 2: of my portraits will be a part of it. I
Speaker 2: have to wait and see, but I'd say that with
Speaker 2: pride that I can be a part of an artist's history.
Speaker 2: John Wilson has world renown reputation, and I thought I
Speaker 2: would tell you that. And now for a perspective on
Speaker 2: Martin Luther King Junior. I was born in nineteen fifty three,
Speaker 2: lived in the South End till I was twelve, So
Speaker 2: throughout the fifties into the early sixties, I'm just another kid,
Speaker 2: just another young man from Boston. I did not know
Speaker 2: about racial strife and conflict. It hadn't touched me, but
Speaker 2: my mother and grandmother had to sit down and explain
Speaker 2: certain things to me as I grew older. And if
Speaker 2: it were not for Martin Luther King Junior, I might
Speaker 2: not be in front of this microphone right now because
Speaker 2: he wanted all of us Americans to know that if
Speaker 2: you want it, you can achieve it. Ever since I
Speaker 2: was in Junior High. I wanted to get on the
Speaker 2: radio and I wanted to do talk radio, partially inspired
Speaker 2: by people like Larry Glick, Dave Maynard, Dick Summer, etc.
Speaker 2: And a little bit of luck here and there, perseverance,
Speaker 2: hard work, I was able to achieve and get this.
Speaker 2: And I have to thank Martin Luther King Junior and
Speaker 2: his part in me getting this, And a lot of
Speaker 2: you out there have Martin Luther King Junior to thank
Speaker 2: for what you have achieved, whatever it may be, in
Speaker 2: any walk of life, in any vocation, and that they've
Speaker 2: put a day aside to reflect on what he did.
Speaker 2: And what he did was trying to make all of
Speaker 2: us realize the pride that we should feel in getting it,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. And I am extremely grateful. Yes, I'm
Speaker 2: grateful to my mother and grandmother instilling proper values in
Speaker 2: me and various teachers I had over the years, and
Speaker 2: family members and neighbors. Yes, a lot of people helped
Speaker 2: cook the finished product that became Morgan White Junior. But
Speaker 2: this day is a day we reflect upon what he
Speaker 2: Martin Luther King Jr. Did and the fact that he
Speaker 2: began by attending college here in Massachusetts and as well,
Speaker 2: John Wilson began here attending college in Massachusetts. That says
Speaker 2: something to me. And I have a show planned not
Speaker 2: focusing on Mattin, Luther King or Inauguration Day. That's why
Speaker 2: I've started off with a tip of the hat of both.
Speaker 2: But as I mentioned, I've got Jacob Wycoff for first.
Speaker 2: I've got a gentleman who I've spoken with over the
Speaker 2: years who used to be He and his father they
Speaker 2: handled special effects in movies and TV. And my buddy
Speaker 2: Dixie is going to be here for the final two
Speaker 2: hours to talk about the National Park Service, which began
Speaker 2: with a press in a decreeing that such a thing exists.
Speaker 2: That was Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt who decided that should be.
Speaker 2: Let me take a break and begin our show here
Speaker 2: on Nightside, Dann. We'll be back on Wednesday, but I'm
Speaker 2: here tonight. This is Nightside time. Eight point fifteen, temperature
Speaker 2: nineteen degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: I want to tell you a quick story. This goes
Speaker 2: back maybe five or six years. It's when BZ Radio
Speaker 2: was in the same building eleven seventy Soda Field Road
Speaker 2: as BZ TV, and the studio was next to where
Speaker 2: some of the TV people were situated. And I met
Speaker 2: this gentleman. It was his first night, and I took
Speaker 2: an instant liking to him. I found out he was
Speaker 2: the meteorologist on for that particular evening on TV, and
Speaker 2: we introduced each other to each other, and I struck
Speaker 2: up not a friendship, not to go out and let's
Speaker 2: have a couple of beers together, but a couldural respect
Speaker 2: between he and I. I've had him on with me
Speaker 2: periodically over the years, and I always look forward to
Speaker 2: the next time that I have him on. He's on
Speaker 2: with me tonight. He's here now, please welcome. Can I
Speaker 2: say my buddy? Yes, I can't say my buddy, Jack.
Speaker 3: Morgan. Good evening. How are you? I'm fine, Happy New
Speaker 3: Year to you likewise, and I don't want to date
Speaker 3: you or anything. But that's been eight years actually since
Speaker 3: we've met. I know time flives when you're having fun.
Speaker 2: It does. And does that shirt still fit you that
Speaker 2: I gave you?
Speaker 3: Well, it fits a little differently, but yes it does fit.
Speaker 2: I like the way you worked around that, and yes,
Speaker 2: I've got something to start a start us off. Why
Speaker 2: is it people either blame or thank the weather man
Speaker 2: when there is a weather event, And I should say
Speaker 2: weather person because so many weather people both male and
Speaker 2: female in our city, on Beezy and others. But we
Speaker 2: always either tip our hat to you, like the ski people.
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Blue Hills are now full on all
Speaker 2: their trails with only four inches of snow. Ellie, I
Speaker 2: say yay, thanks to the weather man. Or they put
Speaker 2: an issue when there's a drought and no rain. How
Speaker 2: come we do that?
Speaker 3: You know, that's a psychology question. I think that we
Speaker 3: are easy targets because we put it out there, you know,
Speaker 3: with our forecast. But I actually like it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It gives me a challenge to make sure I'm as
Speaker 3: accurate as possible so I can minimize the amount of
Speaker 3: booing and hissing.
Speaker 2: That I get. Okay, and this particular storm, everybody that
Speaker 2: I heard on TV four and WBZ radio nailed it
Speaker 2: three to six inches, and it was like four plus.
Speaker 2: You can't do better than that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the good thing is the storm sort
Speaker 3: of behave the way we thought it would behave, which
Speaker 3: isn't always the case, and we like that. No surprises
Speaker 3: for us. So yeah, and the best part about it,
Speaker 3: For the most part, it was a fairly uniform snow.
Speaker 3: Where you're out in Worcester, you're getting five to six inches.
Speaker 3: Boston officially got five inches of snow. So to have
Speaker 3: that uniformity across the board kind of made forecasting a
Speaker 3: little easier in that regard, okay, And.
Speaker 2: I always wanted to know this, and I had many
Speaker 2: meteorologists on the legendary darn Kent comes to mind. And
Speaker 2: when you went to whatever college you went to to
Speaker 2: learn about meteorology, how many years did it take you
Speaker 2: to go from a freshman to a senior?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 3: So I was at a four year school. It was
Speaker 3: Western Connecticut State University in Danbury, Connecticut. That's where I
Speaker 3: got my meteorology degree. It took me four and a
Speaker 3: half years to graduate because I have a degree in
Speaker 3: both like broadcast meteorology and also research or theoretical meteorology,
Speaker 3: so I could work for the National Weather Service or
Speaker 3: a private organization. So basically it was just an extra
Speaker 3: semester of schooling to be able to do that.
Speaker 2: And I'm assuming broadcast meteorology is a work in progress,
Speaker 2: because broadcasting has changed. Let's say you, I'm sure in
Speaker 2: the early two thousands you went to that university, and
Speaker 2: to compare it to the early nineteen nineties to the
Speaker 2: early nineteen eighties and so forth, back in the day,
Speaker 2: things change. Telling people about what it's going to do
Speaker 2: tomorrow have changed.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, the technology behind forecasting has changed. The mediums
Speaker 3: which people ingest their forecasts have changed. So it is
Speaker 3: something that you know, we're both we're adapting to newer technology,
Speaker 3: both in the creation but then in the delivery of
Speaker 3: the forecast.
Speaker 2: All right, and I've noticed something by it's missing. It's
Speaker 2: like something Sherlock Holmes would say, I was obviously because
Speaker 2: it's not there anymore, the little a MS square that
Speaker 2: was usually shown at the beginning of a weather forecast
Speaker 2: on all stations. And you know, I go to Vegas
Speaker 2: periodically and watching a newscast out there, I saw the
Speaker 2: same icon on weather forecast on k l A S
Speaker 2: out in Vegas. Why isn't that around anymore?
Speaker 3: So that has also adapted. There is now a new
Speaker 3: certification program. There's the NWA, which is the National Weather Association.
Speaker 3: They have a certification program and then they also have
Speaker 3: what the what the AMS calls the CBM the Certified
Speaker 3: Broadcast Meteorology Certificate or certification. That is just an additional
Speaker 3: thing that meteorologists can get my resume thing. A lot
Speaker 3: of TV stations don't really require it anymore the same
Speaker 3: way that they used to.
Speaker 2: All right, but it jumped out at me in its omission. Sure, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: I noticed it wasn't there anymore.
Speaker 3: It's interesting that you say that because I've actually been
Speaker 3: studying for my CBM, the AMS certification, so I'm hopefully
Speaker 3: going to be taking that test within the next few
Speaker 3: months and cross my fingers that I get the certification.
Speaker 2: I hope you do.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: One thing I've noticed, and it's it's not just Channel four,
Speaker 2: it's the other stations in Boston and other cities. Periodically
Speaker 2: when I travel and I watch the news, and I've
Speaker 2: noticed this again in other cities. The meteorilegist of the
Speaker 2: moment does a lot of other things away from the station,
Speaker 2: away from the green screen. And I've noticed they've put
Speaker 2: you out at schools, at events, at other circumstances, nowhere
Speaker 2: near eleven to seventy Soldier's Field Road, and it wasn't
Speaker 2: that way. I'm going to say eight years ago, when
Speaker 2: you started.
Speaker 3: Sure, Sure, what I would say is I have really
Speaker 3: so my wife used to be in TV. She used
Speaker 3: to work with your son at Channel three w FSB
Speaker 3: in Hartford, and I learned to tell stories from her,
Speaker 3: you know, the way that you do it for TV.
Speaker 3: And so when I realized that there was sort of
Speaker 3: a gap in science and environmental storytelling, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 3: I could do this, like I've seen my wife do
Speaker 3: it for so long, Like maybe I can. And so
Speaker 3: that's one reason that I've really kind of taken a
Speaker 3: liking to doing some of my climate reporting. But on
Speaker 3: the other on the flip side of that, like I
Speaker 3: also really enjoy going up to schools talking to kids
Speaker 3: about science and technology. I remember being one of those
Speaker 3: kids in third grades and Chris Cross applesauce listened to
Speaker 3: a local meteorologist come to my school and to be
Speaker 3: that for somebody else and you know, hopefully they are
Speaker 3: inspired to follow in a science field is really really cool.
Speaker 3: Full circle, Absolutely, it sure is.
Speaker 2: And I've got a news hit coming up and tonight
Speaker 2: I've got to be precise because we're joining ABC News
Speaker 2: eight times between now and midnight. Obviously, Okay, because of
Speaker 2: today President Trump taking over for the next two years.
Speaker 2: So I'll squeeze this question in. Take that break, and
Speaker 2: then Ron, Gary and Alex you're on hold, don't hang up.
Speaker 2: You'll get your chance to speak to Jacob, I promise.
Speaker 2: But I want to give you a chance to say
Speaker 2: hello to the weather watchers there. I can tell there
Speaker 2: are so many people who send a little clip of
Speaker 2: themselves and reporting on their community as far as what
Speaker 2: happened last night overnight in the weather. So I want
Speaker 2: to just speak to your weather watches just so they
Speaker 2: know that you pay him attention.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, our weather watchers are so crucial, as you said.
Speaker 3: You know, we broadcast from eleven seventy soldiers Field Road,
Speaker 3: and we kind of sometimes get in a bubble of
Speaker 3: what's happening in our immediate neighborhood. And to have our
Speaker 3: weather watchers report what they're seeing in their towns and
Speaker 3: their cities and their neighborhoods is so crucial for us
Speaker 3: to tell a weather story. So we wouldn't be the
Speaker 3: TV station that we are without the support of our
Speaker 3: weather watchers.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well for all of you, and I know you
Speaker 2: must have more than and you will ever use over
Speaker 2: the next hundred years. But let me get out of
Speaker 2: here in time for the break you want to call
Speaker 2: in on night Side six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty, eight, eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: I've got Jacob Wikoff here from TV four doing the weather,
Speaker 2: and he along with his other five colleagues, make sure
Speaker 2: you know what it's going to be over the next
Speaker 2: day or two. This is Nightside no Dan Ray tonight.
Speaker 2: I am here. I'm Morgan White Junior, and let's take
Speaker 2: our break. Time and temperature eight thirty and nineteen degrees.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Dan is off tonight and tomorrow. He will return on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure he'll have a lot of discussion points
Speaker 2: for you the night Side listeners. I've got my buddy
Speaker 2: Jacob Wycoff here with me and Ron and Stoughton. I
Speaker 2: know you've been waiting for this because Ron is, among
Speaker 2: other loves of Ron, he is a weather nut. So Ron,
Speaker 2: you've got Jacob. You two just have your conversation. I
Speaker 2: won't interrupt, Okay.
Speaker 5: First of all, Happy New Year, Jacob. It's nice to
Speaker 5: get a chance to talk to you again. I was
Speaker 5: out for thirteen hours with my plow crew on this storm.
Speaker 5: But so I'm a little bit tired, but.
Speaker 2: I have a inches wait, wait, hold on, five inches
Speaker 2: of snow.
Speaker 5: You're out there for I have a lot of accounts.
Speaker 5: I have a lot of accounts. Anyway, this past storm
Speaker 5: was not really considered a true nor'east or a type
Speaker 5: a storm on the surface map. A true north northeaster
Speaker 5: comes usually comes out of the Gulf and comes up
Speaker 5: a batterers. I guess they call that hooking up with
Speaker 5: the tight B storm on the surface or a phasing
Speaker 5: of the A and B, and that comes a bomb cyclone.
Speaker 5: What's the actual last time we had a real big
Speaker 5: bomb cyclone? Wasn't it about four or five years ago?
Speaker 3: The last one that comes to my mind right off
Speaker 3: the bat would be like the end of January twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two, officially a blizzard. Boston picked up twenty plus
Speaker 3: inches of snow. I remember that because I was in
Speaker 3: the sandwich and visibility was just zero and the wind
Speaker 3: blown seventy miles an hour. That's the one that comes
Speaker 3: to mind, or might have been one in between, like
Speaker 3: maybe in February. I think I think February was the
Speaker 3: last time Boston got February of twenty two was the
Speaker 3: last time Boston got over six inches of snow. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that might have been a classic nor' Easter two.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I you know, I still remember. I'm one
Speaker 5: of those guys that still remember is this blizzard of
Speaker 5: seventy eight. I su I just suggested to Morgan last
Speaker 5: week that next time that you come on, maybe if
Speaker 5: they can hook you up with Bob Copeland, who was
Speaker 5: around during the Blizzard of seventy eight, because I think
Speaker 5: he was one of the few guys that predicted the
Speaker 5: Blizzard of seventy eight.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I actually recently saw Barry Burbank too. He was
Speaker 3: at Busy at that time. So, yeah, it's such a
Speaker 3: wild time to think of. You know, that's almost fifty
Speaker 3: years ago at this point. Yeah, and just the technology
Speaker 3: advance ends. But you know, we still have those situations
Speaker 3: where people get gridlocked in snow, oh yeah, flaming and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Even though technology changes, human habits don't.
Speaker 5: No, You're exactly right, And I'll tell you I think
Speaker 5: one day again we're going to see something like that.
Speaker 5: I really don.
Speaker 3: Word it hasn't happened in a little while. But yes,
Speaker 3: you're probably right that we will be honest.
Speaker 2: The reason why you're saying that is because you have
Speaker 2: a plow truck. Truck that's what that's white gold is
Speaker 2: the people.
Speaker 5: That is exactly what correct. When when it when it snows,
Speaker 5: I see the colored green. I love it. Take you, guys, taken,
Speaker 5: Let's go.
Speaker 2: To Gary and Woburn. You're next here at night side.
Speaker 2: Good evening, Gary.
Speaker 6: Yes, you know everybody talked about Blizzard of seventy eight,
Speaker 6: of course, but does everybody remember five to seven years
Speaker 6: ago we got two feet of snow in this area Jacob, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what we just kind of talked about.
Speaker 3: It was February or it was January twenty ninth of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. We got two feet of snow with
Speaker 3: that storm. It was officially a blizzard for Austin and
Speaker 3: that was a big one. That was I think twenty
Speaker 3: twenty inches of snow.
Speaker 2: Know what I have the blizzard where care hold on?
Speaker 2: The Blizzard of seventy eight had an amalgamation of several things.
Speaker 2: A full moon, which affects snowfall, winds that were I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say if I'm not mistaken at peak in the
Speaker 2: high fifty mile per hour range versus the one you're
Speaker 2: talking about that was just what five six years ago
Speaker 2: didn't have those same elements to it. And I don't
Speaker 2: recall seeing photos of Route one twenty eight, the exit
Speaker 2: near Channel five where people were their cars were stuck.
Speaker 2: They couldn't go anywhere. It was like a parking lot
Speaker 2: or a used car lot. Would have been more appropriate
Speaker 2: to say, I'm gary going, I don't mean this step
Speaker 2: when you tell us go ahead, But I got no.
Speaker 6: That was a good point one, Jacob. I have two
Speaker 6: very interesting questions. I have one stupid question that's also
Speaker 6: silly for comedy. My question is, this is California, with
Speaker 6: climate change and so forth, shouldn't they be telling public
Speaker 6: address announcing on TV and radio that they're going to
Speaker 6: be dropping water on the woodlands all year round to
Speaker 6: wet down their brush so they don't have this catastrophe
Speaker 6: happen again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that's a little bit out of
Speaker 3: my wheelhouse. But what I would say is they do
Speaker 3: have a water shortage issue to begin with, and despite
Speaker 3: them being so close to the ocean, if they dumped
Speaker 3: salt water on inland on your backyard. That would just
Speaker 3: terror It would cause soil chemistry issues. So they really
Speaker 3: don't have access to the water to be able to
Speaker 3: do something like that. Hope they get to a point
Speaker 3: where they can break this sort of you know, perpetual drought.
Speaker 3: They actually a lot of the reservoirs I was looking
Speaker 3: at it were actually in good shape. It was just
Speaker 3: the insane demand placed upon the supply at that time.
Speaker 3: You know, four large fires being fought in different places,
Speaker 3: some of them in the hill, so gravity working against
Speaker 3: the pressure to get the water up. It was I
Speaker 3: hate using the word, but it was like sort of
Speaker 3: a perfect storm of just bad conditions playing against you know,
Speaker 3: the firefighters and the people that lived there, which was insane,
Speaker 3: a crazy tragedy.
Speaker 2: And the celization issues. If you use water from the Pacific,
Speaker 2: you know that's where they're next to the Pacific Ocean,
Speaker 2: it would do vegetation great harm, right versus fresh water? Gary,
Speaker 2: what is the comical car?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: No, serious?
Speaker 6: Next serious question is this? Okay? Is Jacob? You're in
Speaker 6: the confession box right now. So here we go. As
Speaker 6: a weatherman, I would imagine you're praying for snowstorms all
Speaker 6: through the one that because obviously you're going to be
Speaker 6: in the limelight. And then with the spring, summer and fall,
Speaker 6: what are you praying for weather? So you guys are
Speaker 6: in the limelight.
Speaker 3: Sure, so I would say that I enjoy some snow,
Speaker 3: but keep in mind I have to shovel too, so
Speaker 3: I don't want to have to spend too much time
Speaker 3: at a chiropractor. No, I enjoy New England for the
Speaker 3: four season. So yes, I enjoy winter because it gives
Speaker 3: me the challenge of forecasting. But my ideal like beautiful
Speaker 3: day would be like, you know, the sixty eight degrees,
Speaker 3: a lot of sunshine, maybe a little breeze, and then
Speaker 3: the fall, you know, the just the amazing conditions that
Speaker 3: you have in fall, with the nice sunshine, constant sunshine,
Speaker 3: and then there's cool overnights like that's chef's kiss for me.
Speaker 3: That's that's perfect. And I'll take all the data boys
Speaker 3: and the pats on the back that I can when
Speaker 3: when those type of days come around.
Speaker 6: Okay, here's my comedy question. Yeah, okay, this is a comical,
Speaker 6: but it's also serious. Here we go all ready, we
Speaker 6: have the ocean, we have ponds, and we have lakes.
Speaker 6: My question is too when it becomes severely cold and
Speaker 6: the width of time in the East Coast and so forth.
Speaker 6: My question is, is fish in those ponds and lakes
Speaker 6: and ocean are they freezing to death? Are they uncomfortable?
Speaker 4: Are they happy?
Speaker 6: And thank you for your time?
Speaker 7: Sure, and we'll have so.
Speaker 3: Specifically for the ocean, salt water freezes at a lower
Speaker 3: temperature and it's a lot harder to freeze the ocean,
Speaker 3: so usually fish aren't affected. For ponds, it's really hard
Speaker 3: to get a pond to comple completely freeze from top
Speaker 3: to the bottom. So a lot of times, even though
Speaker 3: you're going to be able to go, you know, ice
Speaker 3: ice fishing, there's still plenty of water that is unfrozen underneath.
Speaker 3: And fish are cold water animals, so I think, yeah, creature,
Speaker 3: So I think that they, you know, kind of appreciate
Speaker 3: just the cooler temperatures and they thrive.
Speaker 2: And you heard them frozen this weekend. I think it
Speaker 2: was in New Hampshire. Somehow a gentlemen driving a U
Speaker 2: haul moving truck got confused and wound up on a
Speaker 2: lake and get to drive, if I remember the story correctly,
Speaker 2: right restly five hundred feet before the ice cracked and
Speaker 2: the ice was only one inch thick. And we know
Speaker 2: that ponds and lakes, et cetera. Are dozens of feet
Speaker 2: deep and they don't free They freeze from the top down.
Speaker 2: They don't freeze forty eight feet down right, That doesn't
Speaker 2: it doesn't happen that way. Let me take one more
Speaker 2: before I have a break to take, and let's go
Speaker 2: to Alex and Millis. Alex, you've got Jacob Wikoff from
Speaker 2: TV for news department with the weather.
Speaker 7: Hey, good eating. Hey Jacob, I have I have a
Speaker 7: silly question too, But I was going to ask you
Speaker 7: because I do watch all the meteorologists just to see
Speaker 7: and it seems like you're all you know on the money. Uh,
Speaker 7: you know, so do folks likewise do that, you know,
Speaker 7: like watch a competition and does one does one station
Speaker 7: have better technology than another? And the other was about punks?
Speaker 7: And actually the Farmer's Almanac is that pretty pretty accurate?
Speaker 3: So I'll get to that question first. The Farmer's Almanac,
Speaker 3: I like it for good reading material. I would say
Speaker 3: that they are both specific and vague enough that you
Speaker 3: know they make a forecast work well, they'll say, you know,
Speaker 3: they issue this six months ahead of time, and they'll
Speaker 3: say there could be a snowstorm on the East coast
Speaker 3: in the middle of January. It's like, well, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: the middle of winter. That's what we would we get,
Speaker 3: you know, So there, I guess they can kind of
Speaker 3: finagle the wording to make any condition work. So I
Speaker 3: like it for for a lot of things, but forecasts
Speaker 3: are are not one of them. But as far as
Speaker 3: the other stations go, I know, personally I don't tune
Speaker 3: into other stations. That's not to say I don't respect them,
Speaker 3: because I have great respect to the people at the
Speaker 3: other stations. I just don't want any sort of outside
Speaker 3: influences sort of distorting what I'm thinking. We have a
Speaker 3: very good team at WVZ and you'll throw, you know,
Speaker 3: forecasts ideas off each other, but I don't look at
Speaker 3: others for any of those ideas. We all basically have
Speaker 3: the same technology, And what it boils down to is
Speaker 3: how are you interpreting the weather models and then the
Speaker 3: experience that we have, like, all right, is this storm
Speaker 3: going to behave like this one or this one? And
Speaker 3: that's that's where it all boils down to.
Speaker 2: Answered your three questions, do you have something else.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, I I am not complaining about
Speaker 7: New England winters. You know, have the snowblower and the generator.
Speaker 7: But I'll say we're very fortunate because we don't have wildfires, hurricanes, tornadoes,
Speaker 7: nor landslides. Maybe a hurricane here, yeah, we have hurricanes.
Speaker 2: Right, you're right overall, Alex. Thank you for making the
Speaker 2: phone call.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks Alex.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Bye bye, Chris and Hudson. I don't have
Speaker 2: time to get to you right now because I have
Speaker 2: an ABC News break literally a minute away, but I
Speaker 2: will get you on with Jacob because you took the
Speaker 2: time to call in. And I'm gonna say, maybe I
Speaker 2: could get another call or two on pending six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: We'll get you through here tonight's side and Jacob. One
Speaker 2: one quick question and I know the answer. You can
Speaker 2: work anywhere in the world. Where would you like to
Speaker 2: do weather? In twenty seconds?
Speaker 3: Oh, Italy is a place so close to my heart
Speaker 3: love Italy. Yeah, that'd probably yet, all right.
Speaker 2: And now that I know that you ain't leaving, you're
Speaker 2: staying here, don't with or without a beard all right,
Speaker 2: Time and temperature eight forty nine and nineteen degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios.
Speaker 2: I'm WBZ News Radio. I'm Morgan Morgan White Junior, filling
Speaker 2: in for Dan Ray. I'll be here until midnight tonight
Speaker 2: and tomorrow night eight to midnight. Dan will be back
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, I promise. Jacob Wycoff from TV for news
Speaker 2: and weather and sports. Speaking of sports, real quick, our
Speaker 2: teams both the Celtics and Bruins beat up on California.
Speaker 2: The Celtics beak Golden State and the Bruins beat the Sharks.
Speaker 2: So it's a good day sports wise. Let's go to
Speaker 2: Chris calling from Hudson, mass and most likely the last
Speaker 2: call I'll take with Jacob. Whycoff Chris, good evening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hi Morgan, great show is usual. Hi Jacob, nice
Speaker 4: to talk with you. I used to live in the
Speaker 4: Nadnock area, okay, and I remember I think it was
Speaker 4: around two thousand and four we had a major major
Speaker 4: ice storm. Okay, I don't know if I think it
Speaker 4: was around that time, but people lost power for two months. Okay.
Speaker 4: It was crazy and the only thing that kept us
Speaker 4: going up there. Everybody had a woodsow okay, but you know,
Speaker 4: it's not so much the snow, it's the ice that
Speaker 4: really really hammers us, and it hurts us, you know
Speaker 4: how Absolutely.
Speaker 3: There was a big one that I think was in
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight in December.
Speaker 4: Okay, that could have that could have been the storm,
Speaker 4: and that's the one I'm thinking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's about an hour for like millions of
Speaker 3: people across the northeast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you couldn't buy a generator, you couldn't rent a generator.
Speaker 4: Everything was sold out. But like I said in the
Speaker 4: Manad Knox, everybody has a woodsoew, you know, and people
Speaker 4: help people, the neighbors, you know. And you know, another
Speaker 4: weird thing. When now I'm sixty two, but when I
Speaker 4: was younger, like eighteen twenty, I used to go ice
Speaker 4: fishing to Lake Champlain for a long weekend. Okay, now
Speaker 4: up in Burlington, Vermont, right near there where I fished,
Speaker 4: it was like ten below zero for two months, but
Speaker 4: the ice was only four inches thick because there was
Speaker 4: so much movement under the ice, it could never really
Speaker 4: freeze to like twelve inches.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It was it was kind of weird, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's that's why.
Speaker 3: We always caution people when they want to, you know,
Speaker 3: do some pond hockey whatever it is, that they always
Speaker 3: check because depending on the current of the lake or
Speaker 3: you know, if there's wind, the depth of the lake, like,
Speaker 3: all of those things play a huge role in how
Speaker 3: much I should get. So we always tell people, you know,
Speaker 3: check before you go on.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Plus, I think that's okay. Thanks Morgan, Thanks.
Speaker 2: Thank you for almost out a time. And Jacob in
Speaker 2: about thirty seconds, can you tell people who in their neighborhood, police,
Speaker 2: fire what have you is a good source to find
Speaker 2: out if it's safe to go on whatever body of
Speaker 2: water is in your neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, usually that falls upon like the DCRs or the
Speaker 3: parks and Recreation or something like that. It never hurts
Speaker 3: to call the non emergency line of the fire department.
Speaker 3: They may know sometimes they do training on the ice themselves,
Speaker 3: So yeah, I would check with some of those local
Speaker 3: officials non emergency lines though.
Speaker 2: Jacob, thank you for giving me time. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll call you back because and I'm not
Speaker 2: ashamed to say this, of all the meteorologists in Boston, four, five, seven,
Speaker 2: ten necking and that's about twenty five thirty people. You
Speaker 2: are the best and you are my favorite.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Morgan. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jacob. Let's take our break here on nights
Speaker 2: side time and temperature eight fifty eight nineteen degrees