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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBSY Boston's new video.

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<v Speaker 2>Emma, thank you for introing me. I am Morgan White Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>What a day. Oh my goodness, there are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be so many different places I could take our conversations tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to let people know my first guest

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<v Speaker 2>will be coming on right after the fifteen break. It

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<v Speaker 2>will be Jacob Wyckoff. And when I coordinated Jacob coming

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<v Speaker 2>on with me, little did I realize he'd be able

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about I'm gonna call it a mini snowstorm, Boss.

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<v Speaker 2>Snow only gets four and a half inches of snow,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's the second time in the past six weeks

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<v Speaker 2>we've gotten snow. So it's something for those of you

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<v Speaker 2>who love snow to applaud and cheer. I'm not in

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<v Speaker 2>that group. Inauguration Day, as of one o'clock in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>our President elect Donald Trump became the commander in chief,

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<v Speaker 2>the president of the United States for the next four years,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll be addressing that. And I want to let

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<v Speaker 2>you know ABC is going to be breaking in twice

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<v Speaker 2>an hour to give us any more updates about the

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<v Speaker 2>first day of Donald Trump's administration. I as well. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't forget that this is a reflection of Martin Luther

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<v Speaker 2>King Junior's birthday. His birthday was really on the fifteenth

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<v Speaker 2>of January, but they converted that to a Monday holiday,

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<v Speaker 2>and in a way there is a connection between me,

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<v Speaker 2>Morgan w Junior, and Donald Trump. Listen to Beasy News Today.

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<v Speaker 2>Periodically on the news they mentioned a bust of Martin

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<v Speaker 2>Luther King Junior in the rotunda and the artist who

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<v Speaker 2>put their bust together, John Wilson, included me a seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen nineteen twenty year old Morgan White Junior, and a

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<v Speaker 2>number of his paintings and portraits. He did a selection

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<v Speaker 2>called Young Americans where people who were friends of his

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<v Speaker 2>daughter and son. His daughter was in my homeroom, Rebecca Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>She and I became friends. Introduced me to her dad

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<v Speaker 2>and her dad said, Morgan, you know I'm an artist

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<v Speaker 2>because his stuff was all over the house. Every floor

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<v Speaker 2>of their health Some brookline was a representation of his

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<v Speaker 2>art work, and he said, I would like to do

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of paintings portraits of you, and he did,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of a bit of pride in my part.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the ones he did of me is hanging

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<v Speaker 2>in a Baltimore museum. There is a John Wilson art

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<v Speaker 2>collection beginning at the Museum of Fine Arts first week

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<v Speaker 2>of February. I do believe. I don't know if any

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<v Speaker 2>of my portraits will be a part of it. I

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait and see, but I'd say that with

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<v Speaker 2>pride that I can be a part of an artist's history.

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<v Speaker 2>John Wilson has world renown reputation, and I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>would tell you that. And now for a perspective on

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<v Speaker 2>Martin Luther King Junior. I was born in nineteen fifty three,

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<v Speaker 2>lived in the South End till I was twelve, So

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the fifties into the early sixties, I'm just another kid,

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<v Speaker 2>just another young man from Boston. I did not know

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<v Speaker 2>about racial strife and conflict. It hadn't touched me, but

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<v Speaker 2>my mother and grandmother had to sit down and explain

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<v Speaker 2>certain things to me as I grew older. And if

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<v Speaker 2>it were not for Martin Luther King Junior, I might

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<v Speaker 2>not be in front of this microphone right now because

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted all of us Americans to know that if

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<v Speaker 2>you want it, you can achieve it. Ever since I

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<v Speaker 2>was in Junior High. I wanted to get on the

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<v Speaker 2>radio and I wanted to do talk radio, partially inspired

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<v Speaker 2>by people like Larry Glick, Dave Maynard, Dick Summer, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>And a little bit of luck here and there, perseverance,

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<v Speaker 2>hard work, I was able to achieve and get this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to thank Martin Luther King Junior and

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<v Speaker 2>his part in me getting this, And a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>you out there have Martin Luther King Junior to thank

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<v Speaker 2>for what you have achieved, whatever it may be, in

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<v Speaker 2>any walk of life, in any vocation, and that they've

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<v Speaker 2>put a day aside to reflect on what he did.

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<v Speaker 2>And what he did was trying to make all of

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<v Speaker 2>us realize the pride that we should feel in getting it,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. And I am extremely grateful. Yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>grateful to my mother and grandmother instilling proper values in

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<v Speaker 2>me and various teachers I had over the years, and

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<v Speaker 2>family members and neighbors. Yes, a lot of people helped

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<v Speaker 2>cook the finished product that became Morgan White Junior. But

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<v Speaker 2>this day is a day we reflect upon what he

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<v Speaker 2>Martin Luther King Jr. Did and the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>began by attending college here in Massachusetts and as well,

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<v Speaker 2>John Wilson began here attending college in Massachusetts. That says

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<v Speaker 2>something to me. And I have a show planned not

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<v Speaker 2>focusing on Mattin, Luther King or Inauguration Day. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I've started off with a tip of the hat of both.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I mentioned, I've got Jacob Wycoff for first.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a gentleman who I've spoken with over the

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<v Speaker 2>years who used to be He and his father they

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<v Speaker 2>handled special effects in movies and TV. And my buddy

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<v Speaker 2>Dixie is going to be here for the final two

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<v Speaker 2>hours to talk about the National Park Service, which began

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<v Speaker 2>with a press in a decreeing that such a thing exists.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt who decided that should be.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me take a break and begin our show here

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside, Dann. We'll be back on Wednesday, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here tonight. This is Nightside time. Eight point fifteen, temperature

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to tell you a quick story. This goes

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<v Speaker 2>back maybe five or six years. It's when BZ Radio

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<v Speaker 2>was in the same building eleven seventy Soda Field Road

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<v Speaker 2>as BZ TV, and the studio was next to where

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<v Speaker 2>some of the TV people were situated. And I met

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<v Speaker 2>this gentleman. It was his first night, and I took

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<v Speaker 2>an instant liking to him. I found out he was

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<v Speaker 2>the meteorologist on for that particular evening on TV, and

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<v Speaker 2>we introduced each other to each other, and I struck

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<v Speaker 2>up not a friendship, not to go out and let's

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<v Speaker 2>have a couple of beers together, but a couldural respect

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<v Speaker 2>between he and I. I've had him on with me

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<v Speaker 2>periodically over the years, and I always look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>the next time that I have him on. He's on

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<v Speaker 2>with me tonight. He's here now, please welcome. Can I

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<v Speaker 2>say my buddy? Yes, I can't say my buddy, Jack.

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<v Speaker 3>Morgan. Good evening. How are you? I'm fine, Happy New

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<v Speaker 3>Year to you likewise, and I don't want to date

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<v Speaker 3>you or anything. But that's been eight years actually since

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<v Speaker 3>we've met. I know time flives when you're having fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It does. And does that shirt still fit you that

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<v Speaker 2>I gave you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it fits a little differently, but yes it does fit.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the way you worked around that, and yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got something to start a start us off. Why

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<v Speaker 2>is it people either blame or thank the weather man

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<v Speaker 2>when there is a weather event, And I should say

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<v Speaker 2>weather person because so many weather people both male and

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<v Speaker 2>female in our city, on Beezy and others. But we

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<v Speaker 2>always either tip our hat to you, like the ski people.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the Blue Hills are now full on all

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<v Speaker 2>their trails with only four inches of snow. Ellie, I

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<v Speaker 2>say yay, thanks to the weather man. Or they put

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<v Speaker 2>an issue when there's a drought and no rain. How

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<v Speaker 2>come we do that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's a psychology question. I think that we

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<v Speaker 3>are easy targets because we put it out there, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with our forecast. But I actually like it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It gives me a challenge to make sure I'm as

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<v Speaker 3>accurate as possible so I can minimize the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>That I get. Okay, and this particular storm, everybody that

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<v Speaker 2>I heard on TV four and WBZ radio nailed it

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<v Speaker 2>three to six inches, and it was like four plus.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do better than that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was the good thing is the storm sort

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<v Speaker 3>of behave the way we thought it would behave, which

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<v Speaker 3>isn't always the case, and we like that. No surprises

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<v Speaker 3>for us. So yeah, and the best part about it,

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<v Speaker 3>For the most part, it was a fairly uniform snow.

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<v Speaker 3>Where you're out in Worcester, you're getting five to six inches.

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<v Speaker 3>Boston officially got five inches of snow. So to have

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<v Speaker 3>that uniformity across the board kind of made forecasting a

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<v Speaker 3>little easier in that regard, okay, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I always wanted to know this, and I had many

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<v Speaker 2>meteorologists on the legendary darn Kent comes to mind. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you went to whatever college you went to to

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<v Speaker 2>learn about meteorology, how many years did it take you

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<v Speaker 2>to go from a freshman to a senior?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was at a four year school. It was

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<v Speaker 3>Western Connecticut State University in Danbury, Connecticut. That's where I

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<v Speaker 3>got my meteorology degree. It took me four and a

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<v Speaker 3>half years to graduate because I have a degree in

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<v Speaker 3>both like broadcast meteorology and also research or theoretical meteorology,

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<v Speaker 3>so I could work for the National Weather Service or

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<v Speaker 3>a private organization. So basically it was just an extra

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<v Speaker 3>semester of schooling to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm assuming broadcast meteorology is a work in progress,

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<v Speaker 2>because broadcasting has changed. Let's say you, I'm sure in

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<v Speaker 2>the early two thousands you went to that university, and

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<v Speaker 2>to compare it to the early nineteen nineties to the

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<v Speaker 2>early nineteen eighties and so forth, back in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>things change. Telling people about what it's going to do

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow have changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. Yeah, the technology behind forecasting has changed. The mediums

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<v Speaker 3>which people ingest their forecasts have changed. So it is

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<v Speaker 3>something that you know, we're both we're adapting to newer technology,

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<v Speaker 2>All right, and I've noticed something by it's missing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like something Sherlock Holmes would say, I was obviously because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not there anymore, the little a MS square that

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<v Speaker 2>was usually shown at the beginning of a weather forecast

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<v Speaker 2>on all stations. And you know, I go to Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>periodically and watching a newscast out there, I saw the

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<v Speaker 2>same icon on weather forecast on k l A S

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<v Speaker 2>out in Vegas. Why isn't that around anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>So that has also adapted. There is now a new

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<v Speaker 3>certification program. There's the NWA, which is the National Weather Association.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a certification program and then they also have

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<v Speaker 3>what the what the AMS calls the CBM the Certified

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<v Speaker 3>Broadcast Meteorology Certificate or certification. That is just an additional

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<v Speaker 3>thing that meteorologists can get my resume thing. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of TV stations don't really require it anymore the same

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<v Speaker 2>All right, but it jumped out at me in its omission. Sure, yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed it wasn't there anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting that you say that because I've actually been

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<v Speaker 3>studying for my CBM, the AMS certification, so I'm hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>going to be taking that test within the next few

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<v Speaker 3>months and cross my fingers that I get the certification.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you do.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I've noticed, and it's it's not just Channel four,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the other stations in Boston and other cities. Periodically

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<v Speaker 2>when I travel and I watch the news, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>noticed this again in other cities. The meteorilegist of the

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<v Speaker 2>moment does a lot of other things away from the station,

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<v Speaker 2>away from the green screen. And I've noticed they've put

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, Sure, what I would say is I have really

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<v Speaker 3>Full circle, Absolutely, it sure is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've got a news hit coming up and tonight

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<v Speaker 2>eight times between now and midnight. Obviously, Okay, because of

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll squeeze this question in. Take that break, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Ron, Gary and Alex you're on hold, don't hang up.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll get your chance to speak to Jacob, I promise.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to give you a chance to say

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<v Speaker 2>are so many people who send a little clip of

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<v Speaker 2>to just speak to your weather watches just so they

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, our weather watchers are so crucial, as you said.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we broadcast from eleven seventy soldiers Field Road,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well for all of you, and I know you

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<v Speaker 2>the next hundred years. But let me get out of

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<v Speaker 2>here in time for the break you want to call

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<v Speaker 2>in on night Side six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty, eight, eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got Jacob Wikoff here from TV four doing the weather,

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<v Speaker 2>and he along with his other five colleagues, make sure

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<v Speaker 2>day or two. This is Nightside no Dan Ray tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I am here. I'm Morgan White Junior, and let's take

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<v Speaker 2>our break. Time and temperature eight thirty and nineteen degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan is off tonight and tomorrow. He will return on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure he'll have a lot of discussion points

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<v Speaker 2>for you the night Side listeners. I've got my buddy

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob Wycoff here with me and Ron and Stoughton. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you've been waiting for this because Ron is, among

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<v Speaker 2>other loves of Ron, he is a weather nut. So Ron,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got Jacob. You two just have your conversation. I

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<v Speaker 2>won't interrupt, Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, Happy New Year, Jacob. It's nice to

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<v Speaker 5>get a chance to talk to you again. I was

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<v Speaker 5>out for thirteen hours with my plow crew on this storm.

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<v Speaker 5>But so I'm a little bit tired, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a inches wait, wait, hold on, five inches

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<v Speaker 5>You're out there for I have a lot of accounts.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a lot of accounts. Anyway, this past storm

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<v Speaker 5>was not really considered a true nor'east or a type

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<v Speaker 5>a storm on the surface map. A true north northeaster

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<v Speaker 5>comes usually comes out of the Gulf and comes up

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<v Speaker 5>a batterers. I guess they call that hooking up with

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<v Speaker 5>the tight B storm on the surface or a phasing

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<v Speaker 5>of the A and B, and that comes a bomb cyclone.

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<v Speaker 5>What's the actual last time we had a real big

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<v Speaker 5>bomb cyclone? Wasn't it about four or five years ago?

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<v Speaker 3>The last one that comes to my mind right off

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<v Speaker 3>the bat would be like the end of January twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two, officially a blizzard. Boston picked up twenty plus

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<v Speaker 3>inches of snow. I remember that because I was in

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<v Speaker 3>the sandwich and visibility was just zero and the wind

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<v Speaker 3>blown seventy miles an hour. That's the one that comes

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<v Speaker 3>to mind, or might have been one in between, like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe in February. I think I think February was the

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<v Speaker 3>last time Boston got February of twenty two was the

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<v Speaker 3>last time Boston got over six inches of snow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that might have been a classic nor' Easter two.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I you know, I still remember. I'm one

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<v Speaker 5>of those guys that still remember is this blizzard of

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<v Speaker 5>seventy eight. I su I just suggested to Morgan last

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<v Speaker 5>week that next time that you come on, maybe if

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<v Speaker 5>they can hook you up with Bob Copeland, who was

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<v Speaker 5>around during the Blizzard of seventy eight, because I think

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<v Speaker 5>Blizzard of seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. I actually recently saw Barry Burbank too. He was

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<v Speaker 3>at Busy at that time. So, yeah, it's such a

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<v Speaker 3>wild time to think of. You know, that's almost fifty

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<v Speaker 3>years ago at this point. Yeah, and just the technology

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<v Speaker 3>advance ends. But you know, we still have those situations

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<v Speaker 3>where people get gridlocked in snow, oh yeah, flaming and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. Even though technology changes, human habits don't.

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<v Speaker 5>No, You're exactly right, And I'll tell you I think

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<v Speaker 5>one day again we're going to see something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I really don.

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<v Speaker 3>Word it hasn't happened in a little while. But yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you're probably right that we will be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why you're saying that is because you have

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<v Speaker 2>a plow truck. Truck that's what that's white gold is

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<v Speaker 5>That is exactly what correct. When when it when it snows,

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<v Speaker 5>I see the colored green. I love it. Take you, guys, taken,

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>To Gary and Woburn. You're next here at night side.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening, Gary.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, you know everybody talked about Blizzard of seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 6>of course, but does everybody remember five to seven years

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<v Speaker 6>ago we got two feet of snow in this area Jacob, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's what we just kind of talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>It was February or it was January twenty ninth of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two. We got two feet of snow with

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<v Speaker 3>that storm. It was officially a blizzard for Austin and

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<v Speaker 3>that was a big one. That was I think twenty

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I have the blizzard where care hold on?

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<v Speaker 2>The Blizzard of seventy eight had an amalgamation of several things.

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<v Speaker 2>A full moon, which affects snowfall, winds that were I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say if I'm not mistaken at peak in the

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<v Speaker 2>high fifty mile per hour range versus the one you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about that was just what five six years ago

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have those same elements to it. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>recall seeing photos of Route one twenty eight, the exit

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<v Speaker 2>near Channel five where people were their cars were stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't go anywhere. It was like a parking lot

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<v Speaker 2>or a used car lot. Would have been more appropriate

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<v Speaker 2>to say, I'm gary going, I don't mean this step

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<v Speaker 6>That was a good point one, Jacob. I have two

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<v Speaker 6>very interesting questions. I have one stupid question that's also

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<v Speaker 6>silly for comedy. My question is, this is California, with

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<v Speaker 6>climate change and so forth, shouldn't they be telling public

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<v Speaker 6>address announcing on TV and radio that they're going to

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<v Speaker 6>be dropping water on the woodlands all year round to

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<v Speaker 6>wet down their brush so they don't have this catastrophe

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<v Speaker 6>happen again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I think that's a little bit out of

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<v Speaker 3>my wheelhouse. But what I would say is they do

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<v Speaker 3>have a water shortage issue to begin with, and despite

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<v Speaker 3>them being so close to the ocean, if they dumped

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<v Speaker 3>salt water on inland on your backyard. That would just

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<v Speaker 3>terror It would cause soil chemistry issues. So they really

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<v Speaker 3>don't have access to the water to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>do something like that. Hope they get to a point

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<v Speaker 3>where they can break this sort of you know, perpetual drought.

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<v Speaker 3>They actually a lot of the reservoirs I was looking

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<v Speaker 3>at it were actually in good shape. It was just

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<v Speaker 3>the insane demand placed upon the supply at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, four large fires being fought in different places,

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<v Speaker 3>some of them in the hill, so gravity working against

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<v Speaker 3>the pressure to get the water up. It was I

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<v Speaker 3>hate using the word, but it was like sort of

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<v Speaker 3>a perfect storm of just bad conditions playing against you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the firefighters and the people that lived there, which was insane,

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<v Speaker 3>a crazy tragedy.

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<v Speaker 2>And the celization issues. If you use water from the Pacific,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that's where they're next to the Pacific Ocean,

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<v Speaker 2>it would do vegetation great harm, right versus fresh water? Gary,

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<v Speaker 2>what is the comical car?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>No, serious?

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<v Speaker 6>Next serious question is this? Okay? Is Jacob? You're in

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<v Speaker 6>the confession box right now. So here we go. As

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<v Speaker 6>a weatherman, I would imagine you're praying for snowstorms all

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<v Speaker 6>through the one that because obviously you're going to be

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<v Speaker 6>in the limelight. And then with the spring, summer and fall,

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<v Speaker 6>what are you praying for weather? So you guys are

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<v Speaker 6>in the limelight.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, so I would say that I enjoy some snow,

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<v Speaker 3>but keep in mind I have to shovel too, so

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to have to spend too much time

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<v Speaker 3>at a chiropractor. No, I enjoy New England for the

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<v Speaker 3>four season. So yes, I enjoy winter because it gives

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<v Speaker 3>me the challenge of forecasting. But my ideal like beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>day would be like, you know, the sixty eight degrees,

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<v Speaker 3>the fall, you know, the just the amazing conditions that

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<v Speaker 3>and then there's cool overnights like that's chef's kiss for me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's perfect. And I'll take all the data boys

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<v Speaker 3>and the pats on the back that I can when

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<v Speaker 3>when those type of days come around.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, here's my comedy question. Yeah, okay, this is a comical,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's also serious. Here we go all ready, we

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<v Speaker 6>have the ocean, we have ponds, and we have lakes.

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<v Speaker 6>My question is too when it becomes severely cold and

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<v Speaker 6>My question is, is fish in those ponds and lakes

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<v Speaker 6>and ocean are they freezing to death? Are they uncomfortable?

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<v Speaker 4>Are they happy?

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<v Speaker 6>And thank you for your time?

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<v Speaker 7>Sure, and we'll have so.

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<v Speaker 3>Specifically for the ocean, salt water freezes at a lower

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<v Speaker 3>temperature and it's a lot harder to freeze the ocean,

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<v Speaker 3>so usually fish aren't affected. For ponds, it's really hard

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<v Speaker 3>to the bottom. So a lot of times, even though

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to be able to go, you know, ice

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<v Speaker 3>ice fishing, there's still plenty of water that is unfrozen underneath.

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<v Speaker 3>And fish are cold water animals, so I think, yeah, creature,

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that they, you know, kind of appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>just the cooler temperatures and they thrive.

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<v Speaker 2>And you heard them frozen this weekend. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was in New Hampshire. Somehow a gentlemen driving a U

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<v Speaker 2>haul moving truck got confused and wound up on a

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<v Speaker 2>lake and get to drive, if I remember the story correctly,

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<v Speaker 2>right restly five hundred feet before the ice cracked and

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<v Speaker 2>the ice was only one inch thick. And we know

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<v Speaker 2>that ponds and lakes, et cetera. Are dozens of feet

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<v Speaker 2>deep and they don't free They freeze from the top down.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't freeze forty eight feet down right, That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't happen that way. Let me take one more

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<v Speaker 2>before I have a break to take, and let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to Alex and Millis. Alex, you've got Jacob Wikoff from

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<v Speaker 2>TV for news department with the weather.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, good eating. Hey Jacob, I have I have a

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<v Speaker 7>silly question too, But I was going to ask you

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<v Speaker 7>because I do watch all the meteorologists just to see

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<v Speaker 7>and it seems like you're all you know on the money. Uh,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, so do folks likewise do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>like watch a competition and does one does one station

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<v Speaker 7>have better technology than another? And the other was about punks?

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<v Speaker 7>And actually the Farmer's Almanac is that pretty pretty accurate?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll get to that question first. The Farmer's Almanac,

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<v Speaker 3>I like it for good reading material. I would say

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<v Speaker 3>that they are both specific and vague enough that you

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<v Speaker 3>know they make a forecast work well, they'll say, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they issue this six months ahead of time, and they'll

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<v Speaker 3>say there could be a snowstorm on the East coast

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of January. It's like, well, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of winter. That's what we would we get,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, So there, I guess they can kind of

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<v Speaker 3>finagle the wording to make any condition work. So I

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<v Speaker 3>like it for for a lot of things, but forecasts

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<v Speaker 3>are are not one of them. But as far as

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<v Speaker 3>the other stations go, I know, personally I don't tune

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<v Speaker 3>into other stations. That's not to say I don't respect them,

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<v Speaker 3>because I have great respect to the people at the

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<v Speaker 3>other stations. I just don't want any sort of outside

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<v Speaker 3>influences sort of distorting what I'm thinking. We have a

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<v Speaker 3>very good team at WVZ and you'll throw, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>forecasts ideas off each other, but I don't look at

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<v Speaker 3>others for any of those ideas. We all basically have

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<v Speaker 3>the same technology, And what it boils down to is

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<v Speaker 3>how are you interpreting the weather models and then the

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<v Speaker 3>experience that we have, like, all right, is this storm

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<v Speaker 3>going to behave like this one or this one? And

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's where it all boils down to.

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<v Speaker 2>Answered your three questions, do you have something else.

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<v Speaker 7>I was gonna say, I I am not complaining about

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<v Speaker 7>New England winters. You know, have the snowblower and the generator.

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<v Speaker 7>But I'll say we're very fortunate because we don't have wildfires, hurricanes, tornadoes,

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<v Speaker 7>nor landslides. Maybe a hurricane here, yeah, we have hurricanes.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you're right overall, Alex. Thank you for making the

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<v Speaker 2>phone call.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Thanks Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. Bye bye, Chris and Hudson. I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>time to get to you right now because I have

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<v Speaker 2>an ABC News break literally a minute away, but I

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<v Speaker 2>will get you on with Jacob because you took the

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<v Speaker 2>time to call in. And I'm gonna say, maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>could get another call or two on pending six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get you through here tonight's side and Jacob. One

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<v Speaker 2>one quick question and I know the answer. You can

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<v Speaker 2>work anywhere in the world. Where would you like to

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<v Speaker 2>do weather? In twenty seconds?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Italy is a place so close to my heart

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<v Speaker 3>love Italy. Yeah, that'd probably yet, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>And now that I know that you ain't leaving, you're

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<v Speaker 2>staying here, don't with or without a beard all right,

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<v Speaker 2>Time and temperature eight forty nine and nineteen degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm WBZ News Radio. I'm Morgan Morgan White Junior, filling

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<v Speaker 2>in for Dan Ray. I'll be here until midnight tonight

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<v Speaker 2>and tomorrow night eight to midnight. Dan will be back

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday, I promise. Jacob Wycoff from TV for news

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<v Speaker 2>and weather and sports. Speaking of sports, real quick, our

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<v Speaker 2>teams both the Celtics and Bruins beat up on California.

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<v Speaker 2>The Celtics beak Golden State and the Bruins beat the Sharks.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a good day sports wise. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>Chris calling from Hudson, mass and most likely the last

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<v Speaker 2>call I'll take with Jacob. Whycoff Chris, good evening.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Hi Morgan, great show is usual. Hi Jacob, nice

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<v Speaker 4>to talk with you. I used to live in the

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<v Speaker 4>Nadnock area, okay, and I remember I think it was

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<v Speaker 4>around two thousand and four we had a major major

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<v Speaker 4>ice storm. Okay, I don't know if I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was around that time, but people lost power for two months. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>It was crazy and the only thing that kept us

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<v Speaker 4>going up there. Everybody had a woodsow okay, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not so much the snow, it's the ice that

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<v Speaker 4>really really hammers us, and it hurts us, you know

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<v Speaker 4>how Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a big one that I think was in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and eight in December.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that could have that could have been the storm,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's the one I'm thinking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's about an hour for like millions of

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<v Speaker 3>people across the northeast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you couldn't buy a generator, you couldn't rent a generator.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything was sold out. But like I said in the

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<v Speaker 4>Manad Knox, everybody has a woodsoew, you know, and people

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<v Speaker 4>help people, the neighbors, you know. And you know, another

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<v Speaker 4>weird thing. When now I'm sixty two, but when I

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<v Speaker 4>was younger, like eighteen twenty, I used to go ice

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<v Speaker 4>fishing to Lake Champlain for a long weekend. Okay, now

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<v Speaker 4>up in Burlington, Vermont, right near there where I fished,

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<v Speaker 4>it was like ten below zero for two months, but

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<v Speaker 4>the ice was only four inches thick because there was

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<v Speaker 4>so much movement under the ice, it could never really

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<v Speaker 4>freeze to like twelve inches.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It was it was kind of weird, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's why.

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<v Speaker 3>We always caution people when they want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>do some pond hockey whatever it is, that they always

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<v Speaker 3>check because depending on the current of the lake or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if there's wind, the depth of the lake, like,

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<v Speaker 3>all of those things play a huge role in how

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<v Speaker 3>much I should get. So we always tell people, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>check before you go on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Plus, I think that's okay. Thanks Morgan, Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for almost out a time. And Jacob in

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<v Speaker 2>about thirty seconds, can you tell people who in their neighborhood, police,

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<v Speaker 2>fire what have you is a good source to find

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<v Speaker 2>out if it's safe to go on whatever body of

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<v Speaker 2>water is in your neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, usually that falls upon like the DCRs or the

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<v Speaker 3>parks and Recreation or something like that. It never hurts

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<v Speaker 3>to call the non emergency line of the fire department.

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<v Speaker 3>They may know sometimes they do training on the ice themselves,

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I would check with some of those local

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<v Speaker 3>officials non emergency lines though.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob, thank you for giving me time. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'll call you back because and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>ashamed to say this, of all the meteorologists in Boston, four, five, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>ten necking and that's about twenty five thirty people. You

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<v Speaker 2>are the best and you are my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you, Morgan. I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Jacob. Let's take our break here on nights

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<v Speaker 2>side time and temperature eight fifty eight nineteen degrees