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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show or an hour
Speaker 2: two of the show. And if you're paying any attention,
Speaker 2: then you'll know that I am not Dan Caplis. You've
Speaker 2: got Steve Reams today, Well County Sheriff filling in and
Speaker 2: happy to do so. Dan's out fighting a good fight
Speaker 2: on someone else's behalf, I'm sure, but again, it's always
Speaker 2: a pleasure to be here and take some calls. Today
Speaker 2: we're clearing the decks on a bunch of issues when
Speaker 2: it as it pertains to Senate Bill twenty five Dash three,
Speaker 2: the terrible gun law that Governor Polis signed into into
Speaker 2: law last Thursday. And with us on the line, we
Speaker 2: have Jim from Lamar. He wants to comment about some
Speaker 2: of the gun laws that have been coming through the
Speaker 2: state of Colorado. Jim, what do you got to say?
Speaker 3: Well, as an Illinoian who became a Colorado or so,
Speaker 3: I'm very depressed I can understand that I've been fighting
Speaker 3: these things for a long time and I come here
Speaker 3: and have to fight them all over again. And now
Speaker 3: we're going to go to court. Rocky Mountain gun Owners
Speaker 3: who you just had on they need members, they need support.
Speaker 3: There's Colorado Shooting Association out here that are NRA associated.
Speaker 3: They need your support, they need members, they need money.
Speaker 4: We've got to go to court.
Speaker 3: NRA. If you're not a life member of the NRA,
Speaker 3: what the hell's wrong with you. You've got to become
Speaker 3: a member. Okay, Second Amendment Foundation, become a member. Gun
Speaker 3: Owners of America, become a member. There's the National Gun
Speaker 3: Owners Association here in Loveland. Become a member. Support these guys.
Speaker 3: They're going to get the attorneys to go to court.
Speaker 3: We're going to court. It's got to be fought in
Speaker 3: the courts. Unfortunately, this new thing isn't going to be
Speaker 3: fought until it actually passes in all six August. But
Speaker 3: we're paying an extra six percent, which is illegal. Sure,
Speaker 3: so and as Ian said, they got like ten more
Speaker 3: gun laws that they're passing or have passed that have
Speaker 3: to be fought. I can't believe I came to this
Speaker 3: state and have to put up with this. I keep
Speaker 3: being told all it's all the Californians. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 3: don't think it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who to blame it on at
Speaker 2: this point other than laying it at the feet of
Speaker 2: the legislature and the governor who signed it, and the
Speaker 2: governor before hid that signed the same bad gun bills.
Speaker 2: I mean, this state's been been on a downward trend
Speaker 2: when it comes to gun rights for quite some time,
Speaker 2: but the last couple of years have definitely it's been
Speaker 2: like we're on steroids for bad gun legislation. Jim, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry that your experience from moving to Oregon to Colorado
Speaker 2: just like is a repeat. I'll tell you my experience
Speaker 2: is from moving from Texas to here, and you know,
Speaker 2: I oftentimes say, well, I don't know if that was
Speaker 2: the best decision in the world when it comes to
Speaker 2: my gun rights, because in Texas they still believe in
Speaker 2: the Second Amendment, unlike here in Colorado. But Jim, thanks
Speaker 2: for the phone call, and we really appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 2: I want to get to a few of the texts too.
Speaker 2: We've got a whole bunch of them coming through this
Speaker 2: one here says Sheriff Eames, what do you say to
Speaker 2: the residents that are looking to you, as an elected
Speaker 2: constitutional law man to do something against what I see
Speaker 2: as tyranny by our Democrats ruining this state. They attacked
Speaker 2: our kids, our roads, our jobs, our money, Now our
Speaker 2: gun rights. How much more are we going to lose?
Speaker 2: This isn't freedom, you know. I think that's a very
Speaker 2: poignant text. I think people in this state are getting
Speaker 2: pretty fed up. And that leads me back to one
Speaker 2: of the other questions I asked at the top of
Speaker 2: the show, who do you want to see run for
Speaker 2: governor to help try to turn this back around. I
Speaker 2: went through a list of eleven names. I'll read them
Speaker 2: off here again. We've got eleven Republican candidates in the
Speaker 2: race right now. We've got State Senator Mark Baisley, State
Speaker 2: Reps Scott Bottoms, someone named Jason Clark, I don't know
Speaker 2: who that is, Bryson Garrison again, I don't know who
Speaker 2: that is, Steven Guess, John Gray Ginsburg, Joshua Griffin, Jason
Speaker 2: mikes Ol, the sheriff down in Tayler County, Alexander Maguta, Magatta,
Speaker 2: Jim Runberg, and then today we had Greg Lopez jump
Speaker 2: into the race. So are any of those names the
Speaker 2: thing that you you want to hear so far? I mean,
Speaker 2: are those names resonating for you? Or better yet, who
Speaker 2: do you not want to see run? You know, I
Speaker 2: guess that's a that's maybe a bad question because that
Speaker 2: list might be even longer. But are there names on
Speaker 2: this list that you rather not see on there? I mean,
Speaker 2: you know some of these people that are running that
Speaker 2: just totally excite you and say that's the guy or
Speaker 2: that's the person that I want to get behind, Or
Speaker 2: is there someone out there sitting on the bench that
Speaker 2: you say, this is the person we need to we
Speaker 2: need to get into the race. And I'm taking myself
Speaker 2: out of that equation, as you know, Ryan's tried to
Speaker 2: elude several times. I think, you know, I think that
Speaker 2: it's time for the people in this state to say
Speaker 2: we've had enough. We're tired of the attacks on our kids.
Speaker 2: We're tired of the attacks on our roads and or
Speaker 2: the mismanagement of our roads, our jobs, our money, our
Speaker 2: gun rights. Who can bring it back? You know, I'd
Speaker 2: love to hear what you have to say. Everybody's texting
Speaker 2: and about Center Bill twenty five to three. Not too
Speaker 2: many people are throwing in any good positive vibes here
Speaker 2: about the governor's race, and I don't think it's a
Speaker 2: lost cause. I think with Michael Bennett, the presumptive candidate
Speaker 2: on the dim side, I mean again, that's that's boring
Speaker 2: on steroids. I mean, the guy is just like I said,
Speaker 2: every time he talks it sounds like he's talking through
Speaker 2: a yawn and he makes me tired. Going back to
Speaker 2: the text that says, dims argue voter idea as a
Speaker 2: poll tax and certain people are too dumb to get
Speaker 2: an id'. You hear that quite often, they don't say
Speaker 2: it quite that way. Should make the same argument against
Speaker 2: Senate Bill twenty five to three if you got to,
Speaker 2: you know, we're not smart enough to figure out how
Speaker 2: to go get these, so you should just repeal the law.
Speaker 2: I guess it says if you ask me, dumb voters
Speaker 2: are more dangerous than dumb gun owners. That's probably true,
Speaker 2: which explains a lot of the reasons why we're in
Speaker 2: the state that we're in here in our state of Colorado,
Speaker 2: here's a very on point question. Can you tell me
Speaker 2: what the penalties are for violating any of the provisions
Speaker 2: in Senate Bill three, most notably, if you are found
Speaker 2: to have acquired a gun without going through all these
Speaker 2: new steps and hoops. The first penalty is a Class
Speaker 2: two minut misdemeanor, but a second or subsequent offense becomes
Speaker 2: a Class six felony. So if somehow you go out
Speaker 2: and obtain a gun without going through this new process
Speaker 2: of getting a background check, going to your sheriff's office,
Speaker 2: presenting that background check to your sheriff, getting permission with
Speaker 2: a card to then go take a class, if you
Speaker 2: don't do all those steps correctly, and somehow you still
Speaker 2: obtain a gun, at that point, you could be in
Speaker 2: violation of the law as it's written, and you'd face
Speaker 2: a class two misdemeanor, or if you do it a
Speaker 2: couple of times, class six felony. So that's the best
Speaker 2: answer I can give. There's also one other provision in
Speaker 2: the bill that if you provide a false statement to
Speaker 2: the sheriff that you're going to go ask for this
Speaker 2: card from that too, could also be an issue of perjury,
Speaker 2: and I've never seen perjury used in that type of form,
Speaker 2: but regardless, that's kind of that's kind of one other
Speaker 2: penalty that could be there. I think that would be
Speaker 2: a misdemeanor crime. And one other text here says on
Speaker 2: the governor's race, anybody who has the Trump brand is
Speaker 2: going to be branded as toxic in Colorado. Any Republican
Speaker 2: running for governor will get tagged with that and get
Speaker 2: beaten badly. Colorado is just that far left. Please convince
Speaker 2: me I'm wrong, and they thank me for my service.
Speaker 2: All that being said, you know, I don't know if
Speaker 2: Trump is resonating as poorly in Colorado as he was
Speaker 2: maybe prior to his election. You know, some of the
Speaker 2: stuff that's going on right now with tariffs make things
Speaker 2: a little more questionable. I think people who are looking
Speaker 2: at their four oh one k are getting a little
Speaker 2: a little antsy. My dad's listening down in Texas. I
Speaker 2: know we've had that conversation a couple of times about
Speaker 2: you know, hey, where's my four oh one k going?
Speaker 2: And boy, I think certainty in the market is something
Speaker 2: that a lot of people look for. But you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if Trump necessarily tears a candidate down,
Speaker 2: but he certainly probably doesn't build one up in the
Speaker 2: state of Colorado. But who knows. I give it a
Speaker 2: couple more weeks, and Trump's capable of just about anything.
Speaker 2: But I want to make sure that we have time
Speaker 2: for our next segment. We're going to have Senator Barb
Speaker 2: kirk Myron, So we're cut to a break so that
Speaker 2: she can get on with us ride at five twenty.
Speaker 2: I'm told she has a very tough timeline, but I
Speaker 2: want to get a chance to talk with her about
Speaker 2: where we're at in the state of Colorado when it
Speaker 2: comes to the Joint Budget Committee, which she is a
Speaker 2: big piece of. So we'll cut to break. You're listening
Speaker 2: to the Dan Capless Show here on six point thirty
Speaker 2: k How was Steve Raams Weld Kenny Sheriff.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Dan Capless Show. You're listening to
Speaker 2: Sheriff Steve Raams stilling end today from up down from
Speaker 2: Weld County and bringing in one of the Weld County's
Speaker 2: finest state Senator from Senate District twenty three, Barb Kirkmeyer's
Speaker 2: on the line with us. Barb, how you doing?
Speaker 6: I am doing pretty good.
Speaker 2: I think, well, that's a tough question right where you're at.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, it's just been a crazy day.
Speaker 4: But that's okay.
Speaker 2: I guess that goes with the job, right, So what's
Speaker 2: going on with the state budget? I know that you've
Speaker 2: been a fighter going back and forth and kind of
Speaker 2: trying to set the state in the right direction. Tells
Speaker 2: tell the listeners a little bit about some of the
Speaker 2: fights you've been having and kind of where we look
Speaker 2: as a state right now.
Speaker 6: Sure well, let me just start off first by saying,
Speaker 6: we started the year in the hole, the budget year
Speaker 6: in the hole, like by one point two billion at
Speaker 6: one point. We're in what's called a structural deficit. And
Speaker 6: it's not caused because of tabor. It's not caused because
Speaker 6: we're in a recession, because we're not. Our economy is
Speaker 6: pretty good right now. Quite frankly, it's been caused because
Speaker 6: the General Assembly and the Governor's administration, the executive branch
Speaker 6: have just been overspending year over year for like the
Speaker 6: last six years. And the overspending got masked by all
Speaker 6: of these federal dollars that came in, you know, from COVID.
Speaker 6: So we got in all these federal dollars and we
Speaker 6: just kept spending them. On things that were supposed to
Speaker 6: be one time and then they turned into ongoing and
Speaker 6: that caused this structural deficit that we have. So you
Speaker 6: know me as my sheriff, you know me as a
Speaker 6: county commissioner, and you know where I sit as a
Speaker 6: budget hawk kind of thing, and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: we have we have got to stop spending, and they
Speaker 6: just can't help themselves. They just cannot help themselves down here.
Speaker 6: So we have a constitutional requirement that we have to
Speaker 6: have a balanced budget, and I keep reminding them all
Speaker 6: that means for more than just one day, not just
Speaker 6: the day that the governor signs the budget. We really
Speaker 6: should have had me a balanced budget, and we need
Speaker 6: to control ourselves with spending. So it's just it's been
Speaker 6: crazy when the governor who put in his budget request,
Speaker 6: and I have to keep reminding him the executive branch
Speaker 6: does not write the budget. It's the legislative branch, and
Speaker 6: it's the six members on the Joint Budget Committee that
Speaker 6: actually write the budget, of which I'm one of those six.
Speaker 6: But when he submitted his budget request back in November,
Speaker 6: he comes in front of the Joint Budget Committee to
Speaker 6: present it, he left a half hour early because I
Speaker 6: was asking him a bunch of questions and ask him
Speaker 6: how how I could even take his budget requests.
Speaker 2: I find that hard to believe, having presented a budget
Speaker 2: in front of the Board of County Commissioners a few times.
Speaker 2: But that's great to hear. So, so what kind of
Speaker 2: stuff was he throwing in there that you're asking questions about?
Speaker 6: So get this, he had a So we have a
Speaker 6: constitutional requirement to fund education a free public school system,
Speaker 6: and then also to increase that funding year over year
Speaker 6: again in our constitution by inflation for the total program.
Speaker 6: He came in with a one hundred and fifty million dollars
Speaker 6: cut to education.
Speaker 2: Well that doesn't sound very pro education.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, and it's not. And then he also came
Speaker 6: in with cutting Medicaid, like, let's cut medicaid, and it
Speaker 6: was probably close to about one hundred to one hundred
Speaker 6: and twenty million dollars worth of cut to medicaid at least,
Speaker 6: and you know, and then in the meantime, after you know,
Speaker 6: Trump gets elected and we're in doing hearings and stuff,
Speaker 6: all I've heard is how Trump's going to cut medicaid.
Speaker 6: What are you talking about? The governor wants to cut
Speaker 6: Medicaid and I have to fight to get it act.
Speaker 6: So those are two of our most critical programs, you know,
Speaker 6: those programs that we fund, those that just you know,
Speaker 6: they can't do things for themselves. And we need to
Speaker 6: fund medicaid and we need to fund it, and we
Speaker 6: have to fund education. And in his November first budget request,
Speaker 6: he didn't want to fund education. He didn't fund medicaid fully,
Speaker 6: he didn't fund higher education fully, and he cut healthcare
Speaker 6: as well. So I'm like, seriously, why why do I
Speaker 6: take this budget request seriously? Because he also had in
Speaker 6: there that he wanted to fund a new ticket booth
Speaker 6: at the States there, that we should fund additional like
Speaker 6: landscaping around the Capitol, and that we should build a
Speaker 6: bridge from and I know that sounds funny, build a
Speaker 6: bridge from the Capital grounds across Broadway and Lincoln over
Speaker 6: to Civic Center Park.
Speaker 3: In Denver, the homeless, mental homeless.
Speaker 4: People, right.
Speaker 6: No, he wanted to put his name on it so
Speaker 6: that it would be there for you know, twenty twenty six,
Speaker 6: when we turn one hundred and fifty years old in
Speaker 6: this state. So it's stuff like that. I'm like, it's
Speaker 6: just crazy.
Speaker 2: So that with the at the end of DOGE at
Speaker 2: the at the national level and kind of all the
Speaker 2: stuff that you're hearing, you know, the terrible spending being found.
Speaker 2: It sounds like you're kind of the Doge committee in
Speaker 2: a lot of ways. For the state budget. What was
Speaker 2: the most out of line thing that you saw? The
Speaker 2: request for the bridge sounds like it might be on there,
Speaker 2: but I mean, where was the most egregious funding request
Speaker 2: that you saw in the In the governor's.
Speaker 6: Proposal, I would say, and it wasn't a filianus proposal,
Speaker 6: but it was buried in all the stuff that you know,
Speaker 6: all the things that are funded down here, all the
Speaker 6: cash funds and the general fund. It's the second salary
Speaker 6: for the lieutenant governor. Now, granted, i'm talking about when
Speaker 6: we're talking about one point two billion dollars shortfall, I'm
Speaker 6: talking about in the general fund operating budget, which is
Speaker 6: not our forty six billion dollar budget because that includes
Speaker 6: federal funds and cash funds. But our general fund operating
Speaker 6: budget is around, you know, anywhere from eighteen to twenty
Speaker 6: billion dollars depending on you look on it. But let's
Speaker 6: just say it's eighteen billion dollars and we had to
Speaker 6: cut one point two billion, and we have all of
Speaker 6: these cash funds, we have all these offices and programs
Speaker 6: that are already in place, and it's really really I
Speaker 6: have to go back and dig I mean, you remember
Speaker 6: when I was as Acount Commissioner, we would do that
Speaker 6: strategic budgeting and y'all would go through your budgets and say, hey,
Speaker 6: here's where we can cut, here's where we don't need
Speaker 6: this program. It's past as time. Men, they don't do that.
Speaker 6: I mean, I try to get the executive branch to
Speaker 6: do that, and they just like stare at me, and
Speaker 6: you know, and then I have to be more firm
Speaker 6: as you know I can be. But so so in
Speaker 6: the Governor's office is Lieutenant Governor's office, and within that
Speaker 6: we have this other office called the Office of Saving
Speaker 6: People Money, which is just a total joke.
Speaker 7: But she gets.
Speaker 6: Paid an additional seventy five thousand dollars on top of
Speaker 6: her salary that she's going down as lieutenant governor.
Speaker 2: What's the salary for the lieutenant governor's the what's the
Speaker 2: primary salary?
Speaker 6: I think it's ninety or ninety three thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: That's so if you can get it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so she's do what she should.
Speaker 6: Be doing as lieutenant governor in the first place. So
Speaker 6: I just think that's appalling to me. And why as
Speaker 6: a lieutenant governor, why doesn't she just give that up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No kidding first deficit?
Speaker 2: So did that get cut out or is she still
Speaker 2: taking that salary? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6: Still she's still taking the additional salary. We tried to.
Speaker 6: I tried to get it amended out and take care
Speaker 6: of it during the budget process with a Joint Budget
Speaker 6: Committee to noevel and even during the long bill process
Speaker 6: on the Senate floor, Senator Pelton had an amendment to
Speaker 6: try and get rid of that. And the answer is no.
Speaker 6: I mean it's in law, so we have to actually
Speaker 6: repill that section of law. And we can't get them to.
Speaker 2: Repill it, of course not. Why would they do anything
Speaker 2: that makes sense and actually save the states and money.
Speaker 2: We got just a couple of minutes left, Barb. Is
Speaker 2: there anything else you want to cover that isn't budget related?
Speaker 2: I know you've got a lot of stuff going on
Speaker 2: down there. Is there something that the listeners need to
Speaker 2: really tune into it and have their radar.
Speaker 6: On for I would say, tune into and have your
Speaker 6: for its House bill. I think it's twelve thirteen thirteen
Speaker 6: twelve thirteen or thirteen twelve thirteen twelve. This is just
Speaker 6: an outrageous bill to me, it's attacking our constitutional rights.
Speaker 6: But moreover, it just feels like to me that there
Speaker 6: are certain Democrats down here across the aisle, even though
Speaker 6: I've got friends across the aisle, but there are other
Speaker 6: Democrats that really it feels like they've just declared war
Speaker 6: on parents. I mean, they're going after parents, trying to
Speaker 6: figure out how to take their children away from them
Speaker 6: and cutty cases, and it is just way out of line.
Speaker 6: And I think that would be a bill that hopefully,
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, if I haven't heard from every
Speaker 6: parents in the state by now, you know, please don't
Speaker 6: send me anymore emails. But I understand my colleagues across
Speaker 6: the aisle to let them know that, you know, parents
Speaker 6: are the ones who should be raising their children. We
Speaker 6: shouldn't be interjecting in between a parent's ability to raise
Speaker 6: their child and take care of their child in the
Speaker 6: best interest of the child versus you know, basically saying
Speaker 6: that if you call your child by their given name
Speaker 6: at birth and they don't want to be called that
Speaker 6: that you could be taken up X be cohersive, and
Speaker 6: you could lose custody of your child in a custody case.
Speaker 2: We got a heart we got a heartbreak. But thanks
Speaker 2: for being on with us, thanks for educating us about
Speaker 2: the budget, and we look forward to having you on again.
Speaker 2: If you're listening to the Dan Caplis Show on six
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Speaker 5: You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2: You're back with the Dan Kaplis Show yet Steve reims Well,
Speaker 2: Kundy Sheriff setting in today and covering the show while
Speaker 2: Dan's out doing some really important stuff. But at the
Speaker 2: top of the show, the top of the hour, I
Speaker 2: ask people, who do you want to see run for governor?
Speaker 2: You know, we've got eleven candidates in the race now
Speaker 2: by my last counting. Greg Lopez made his announcement today.
Speaker 2: I think this is his third time, maybe third times
Speaker 2: a charm, But I've been asking you guys, who do
Speaker 2: you want to see ron? And then also, since I
Speaker 2: happen to be the sheriff up in Weld County, if
Speaker 2: you have any questions about Cenebill twenty five to three
Speaker 2: that maybe I can answer call in, ask your question.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about both topics. But before we get to
Speaker 2: the calls, just want to read a couple of texts here,
Speaker 2: And this one's pretty much on point, and I'm guessing
Speaker 2: our first caller is going to agree with this. It says,
Speaker 2: quit worrying about Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, enough about Trump,
Speaker 2: steer the narratives of those unpopular policies, and start talking
Speaker 2: about Colorado. Every time someone says, but Trump, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of truth there. I mean, I think Republican candidates
Speaker 2: tend to get caught in the cycle of saying yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to defend Trump instead of just turn
Speaker 2: around and talking about the meat and potatoes of what's
Speaker 2: going on. A couple other texts says there's a lot
Speaker 2: of gray areas in this new gun law. That's the
Speaker 2: understatement of the day. And then Michael Bennett is entirely
Speaker 2: beatable with the right person hitting all the right notes.
Speaker 2: They believe Bennett's superpower might be putting people to sleep.
Speaker 2: And then we have one text in here, Dan for Governor,
Speaker 2: which I totally support, but I don't know that he'd
Speaker 2: USh With that being said, if this is the Joe
Speaker 2: from Marveda, I think it is. I'm guessing we're going
Speaker 2: to hear some stuff about Trump, So we'll go to
Speaker 2: that call first.
Speaker 4: Joe, you on line with absolutely, Hey, hey, absolutely, First,
Speaker 4: you know what you talk about Michael Bennett. This might
Speaker 4: be a little before your time, but did you ever
Speaker 4: see their movie Fast Time at Rich Month High?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Are we talking about speccoli Pacoli?
Speaker 4: Michael Bennett. It's Poli. He's not as fun though, well no,
Speaker 4: he's not as fun, but he sounds like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah he does, he does. Yeah, it's bad, it's bad.
Speaker 2: So what do you think about the Republicans having a
Speaker 2: chance in the state. Who's our who's our candidate going
Speaker 2: to be? And is there anybody in the race now
Speaker 2: that excite you?
Speaker 4: Well? This was this was more. This was more gun related.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a
Speaker 4: veteran and I'm a like member of the n r A,
Speaker 4: and you know it is time for Republicans to point
Speaker 4: out how, pardon me, how bad Democrat policies of gun
Speaker 4: control are. Sure, because look at look look at Chicago.
Speaker 4: They had like the most restrictive gun laws there are right,
Speaker 4: And how's that? How's the crime there?
Speaker 2: Right? It's working out great? Right? I mean, if you
Speaker 2: if you.
Speaker 4: Want to look gun laws, gun laws or restrict you
Speaker 4: and I because we abide by law, do they restrict
Speaker 4: you know, criminals? It just it just blows my mind.
Speaker 4: I just oh, it makes my blood boil.
Speaker 2: Well, Joe, I understand where you're at. And I think
Speaker 2: you know you can't have one conversation without without having
Speaker 2: the other. How do we get here? How do we
Speaker 2: have all these restrictive gun laws in the states Because
Speaker 2: we keep electing and we keep allowing Democrats to get
Speaker 2: elected in this state. We don't have a united message
Speaker 2: behind a good candidate for governor. We haven't for quite
Speaker 2: some time. I don't know if one of these candidates
Speaker 2: in the race is going to do that, but uh,
Speaker 2: we got to get there. I mean, at some point,
Speaker 2: I think the people in this state that aren't died
Speaker 2: in the world Democrats are going to say, Okay, enough's enough.
Speaker 2: And just like Trump won the country back, I think
Speaker 2: someone can win this state back. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if that person's in the race yet. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that person's waiting in the wings, But Uh, you know. Uh,
Speaker 2: that's the way I see it. So Joe, thanks.
Speaker 4: Can add to that. You said we elect I didn't
Speaker 4: elect them.
Speaker 2: No, I get I say we collected it.
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I understand, I understand.
Speaker 2: I've never checked it, never checked a D on my
Speaker 2: ballot either, So U Joe, thanks again, We appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Get to a couple more texts here and then we'll uh,
Speaker 2: we'll get to our next caller. This one is a
Speaker 2: little confusing for me. It says, if you find yourself
Speaker 2: defending your your family and your own home, you're forced
Speaker 2: to shoot. I guess someone who's breaking in and the
Speaker 2: gun you grabbed in the emergency is quote unquote illegal. Well,
Speaker 2: but the shooting itself would be justified. How does that
Speaker 2: play out in the courts? And what I would say is,
Speaker 2: if you already own the gun, you've already got it
Speaker 2: in your house. You didn't acquire it illegally. This bill
Speaker 2: does nothing to the guns you already owned. So if
Speaker 2: you're using a gun to defend you and your family
Speaker 2: inside your home, you don't need to worry about Senate
Speaker 2: Bill IREI. Now, if you've gone out and acquired that
Speaker 2: gun somehow in violation of this law. You know, I'd
Speaker 2: say I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by
Speaker 2: six any given days. So if it comes down to
Speaker 2: protecting your family, I think that's what you probably should do.
Speaker 2: It looks like we got Dean from Ourvada on the line.
Speaker 2: He wants to comment on gun laws. Dean, are you
Speaker 2: with us?
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, Yeah. We found out last summer. I guess
Speaker 8: it was that prosecutors can basically prosecute anybody, including Donald Trump,
Speaker 8: for pretty much anything. That is, when it comes down
Speaker 8: to these gun laws, there's so much gray area. You
Speaker 8: get the wrong crosster, he's gonna go after you, and
Speaker 8: you're just gonna ask for mercy because you know, the
Speaker 8: prosecutor's got a lot more money to go after you
Speaker 8: than you can defend yourself.
Speaker 4: Most in most places, except.
Speaker 8: For you know, like Donald Trump, he has had a
Speaker 8: pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could five back a little bit. Yeah. You know,
Speaker 2: you make a good point there, when you when you
Speaker 2: write a bill, it has so much gray area in
Speaker 2: it that leaves so much for the imagination, if you will.
Speaker 2: The devil's in the details, and when the details aren't there,
Speaker 2: someone can make them up and kind of twist the
Speaker 2: bill to their own liking. Oh, I totally see where
Speaker 2: you're coming from.
Speaker 8: Like a sheriff like you, Yeah, sheriff like you is
Speaker 8: probably gonna say, look, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna,
Speaker 8: you know, use this against you. But you get the
Speaker 8: wrong sharef for the wrong prosecutor, and you're just playing
Speaker 8: like mercy. Now, I'm like, please please give me a
Speaker 8: misdemeanor instead of a felony. You know, it's it's it's
Speaker 8: crazy how this works. I just I think in the
Speaker 8: gun laws are going to chill the small mom and pop.
Speaker 4: Gun I mean, all this stuff.
Speaker 8: I don't know how anybody in their right mind would
Speaker 8: want to open a gun store, much less keep on
Speaker 8: open here.
Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you this. You know, we talked
Speaker 2: about this bill being an unfunded mandate on sheriffs, but
Speaker 2: truly it's an unfunded mandate on the gun shops too,
Speaker 2: because they're going to have to go through a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of steps when that person finally, when the when
Speaker 2: the customer finally jumps through all the hoops, they get
Speaker 2: their their class, they've got their gun card, and they
Speaker 2: show up at the gun store. Well, now it's on
Speaker 2: the gun store to turn around and say, okay, are
Speaker 2: you in this registry that you're supposed to be in?
Speaker 2: You know, it's that's time. That's valuable time that that
Speaker 2: gun stores is spending trying to process someone. Oh, by
Speaker 2: the way, and when they sell them again, now, they
Speaker 2: still got to sit on it for three days and
Speaker 2: go through a whole other background check. So we're just
Speaker 2: stacking layers and layers of crap on top of one another.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there is there a you said there's is there
Speaker 8: a six and a half percent AMMO tax on top
Speaker 8: of the regular sales tax?
Speaker 2: I believe that's Uh. I think that one already went
Speaker 2: into effect a few months ago. If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the name of the bill.
Speaker 5: We voted that in the amendment.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, Yeah, we voted that in Yeah,
Speaker 2: the people of.
Speaker 5: Colorado amo out of state.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, right, But that's that's what a lot
Speaker 2: of people do their guns and AMMO at this point. Now,
Speaker 2: So Dean, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 8: They're killing these businesses.
Speaker 2: Have a nice day, Thank you, thanks Dean. And uh,
Speaker 2: before we run out of time here, we'll kick it
Speaker 2: over real quick to Jack and Cheyenne. Jackie, you with us, Steve.
Speaker 9: I think people need to realize that the guns don't
Speaker 9: destroy inner cities Democrats do. I mean, it's it's that simple.
Speaker 9: And if I was going to vote one gun law,
Speaker 9: that gun law would be it's illegal for a Democrat
Speaker 9: to have a gun.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just.
Speaker 9: It's just so obvious.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't know if I don't know
Speaker 2: if political party and gun Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 2: political party and gun ownership are necessarily exclusive to one another.
Speaker 2: You know, we had a last time I covered the show,
Speaker 2: I had Sheriff Lucero for Pueblo County. He's a Democrat,
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of Democrats support down there, and they,
Speaker 2: the Democrats in his county were up in arms about
Speaker 2: this bill. And in fact, even with the county sheriffs
Speaker 2: of Colorado, which is probably I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty split, but it's getting pretty close
Speaker 2: to that. Of the sixty four sheriffs in the state
Speaker 2: of Colorado, there weren't any of them that were in
Speaker 2: support of this bill. So, you know, oftentimes it's it's
Speaker 2: not every Democrat, but it's the Democrats that are making
Speaker 2: the laws at the state House, that's for darn sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well, they're also destroying the city, so that's what they
Speaker 9: want to focus on, not the guns.
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more on that aspect. The
Speaker 2: guns aren't the problem. It's the people that are using
Speaker 2: the guns and the legislators who keep on making it
Speaker 2: harder and harder for us to get them. Jack appreciate
Speaker 2: you listening from Cheyenne. Thanks for calling in. I think
Speaker 2: Jack's Jack's done all right, So well again, throw out
Speaker 2: the number here, it's three oh three seven one, three
Speaker 2: eight two five five. Call in ask your questions. We
Speaker 2: got just a little bit of time left in the show,
Speaker 2: or you can text in at five seven three nine.
Speaker 2: We'll answer all those questions as best we can and
Speaker 2: we'll go to break. Now again, you're listening to Steve
Speaker 2: Riams covering the Dan Capless Show here on six thirty KF.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2: You're back in the last segment of the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 2: Sheriff Steve Riams filling in for Dan today. But I
Speaker 2: want to go straight to a caller from Pueblo. We
Speaker 2: got Jake on the line. He wants to comment about
Speaker 2: some gun laws. Jake, what do you got to say?
Speaker 7: Well, the Democrats have been trying to create an in
Speaker 7: state gun registry for the longest time.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 7: They taught my track in our credit card purchases that
Speaker 7: what creates a registry, we just outsmarted it. Might just
Speaker 7: start paying cash for everything. And now this is another
Speaker 7: end around to hopefully create in state gun registries all
Speaker 7: the way.
Speaker 4: I can see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the bill specifically says that this isn't
Speaker 2: for the purposes of making a registry, and they won't
Speaker 2: know exactly what gun you buy, but they will know
Speaker 2: who's going out and buying a gun. Again, they may
Speaker 2: not know the exact model or or or item that
Speaker 2: you buy, but they're going to know if you took
Speaker 2: the class and have an intent to go buy one.
Speaker 2: So and it's all going to be housed by the
Speaker 2: by parks and wildlife. That's that's the.
Speaker 7: Other thing about the class. I read the bill a
Speaker 7: couple of times. If you take it once, they ever
Speaker 7: have If I want to go bast second, semi automatically
Speaker 7: or detestable mag no, I have to take the class
Speaker 7: a second time.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Once you take the class and you get your card,
Speaker 2: it's good for five years, so you can buy I
Speaker 2: guess theoretically as many guns as you want in that
Speaker 2: five years. But at the end of that five years,
Speaker 2: you got to go renew the card. And it's kind
Speaker 2: of silent as to whether or not you have to
Speaker 2: take the class again or just renew the card again.
Speaker 2: That's one of those gray areas in the bill. I
Speaker 2: don't think you'd have to take the class again, but
Speaker 2: you would have to keep the card renewed, is the
Speaker 2: way I see it.
Speaker 7: But what do I know, Just a form of a
Speaker 7: man registry is. But as far as I'm concerned, and
Speaker 7: I hope we can get declared conversational, I.
Speaker 2: Agree with you. Jake Hey, thanks for calling in, Thanks
Speaker 2: for listening from all the way down there in public.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. So kind of wrapping up the show.
Speaker 2: Here a couple more texts. I have to tell you
Speaker 2: about this one specifically, it came in from my under sheriff,
Speaker 2: who I guess he thinks he's funny. You know, in
Speaker 2: the state of Colorado, most sheriff salaries are set by
Speaker 2: state statue in Weld County, we have a little different process,
Speaker 2: but my salary is set every four years, and that's
Speaker 2: always a point of contention. And my under sheriff currently
Speaker 2: makes more money than I do, so he's got the
Speaker 2: best job in the agency. But he's encouraging me to
Speaker 2: run for governor so that he can be the lieutenant
Speaker 2: governor and yet again make more money than me. I
Speaker 2: don't even know how to take that. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: been riding my coattails for nine years. Now enough's enough.
Speaker 2: And I say that in all fairness, he's a great undershriff.
Speaker 2: He does a great job for me, but I'm not
Speaker 2: giving him any more of a free ride, so he
Speaker 2: can go find his own job when my time is done.
Speaker 2: And we did get a text here in support of
Speaker 2: Jack says Jack is right, Democrats voted in the Democrats
Speaker 2: to push these laws. I can't agree more that with Jack,
Speaker 2: that gun laws should only apply to the Democrats, make
Speaker 2: guns illegal for them. And then I got a friend
Speaker 2: from up in Wild County, actually a couple of friends
Speaker 2: just saying hey, thanks for filling in for Dan today,
Speaker 2: asking me if this is going to be my next career,
Speaker 2: and I think we're We've got a long ways to
Speaker 2: go before we see that happen. And I think I
Speaker 2: think Dan is safe in this seat. I'm not. I
Speaker 2: don't think I'm gunning for his position anytime soon. But sure,
Speaker 2: do you like filling in? It's a lot of fun
Speaker 2: to get a chance to talk with folks and answer
Speaker 2: a few text messages and educate folks as to you know,
Speaker 2: what's going on out there in the public sphere, and
Speaker 2: you know, kind of do something different for the day.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Ryan before we break for the day. You
Speaker 2: know you do you do your show every day? Do
Speaker 2: you do you get one feeling that there's a candidate
Speaker 2: out there amongst Republicans that is just waiting in the
Speaker 2: wings to jump in, because right now I'm not getting
Speaker 2: a lot of vibes for the eleven Republicans that have
Speaker 2: jumped in. Have you heard of Are you getting a
Speaker 2: feeling that that person's going to jump in there and
Speaker 2: change the tide?
Speaker 10: Well, the one and obviously it has a lot to
Speaker 10: do with our present forum. But that callers and listeners
Speaker 10: am calling for is is Dan Caplis. And you know,
Speaker 10: he makes no secret that at one time he was
Speaker 10: seriously considering run for high office, in particular the US Senate.
Speaker 5: He had gone to Washington, d C. With Amy, had.
Speaker 10: Been taken in on a tour I believes by John
Speaker 10: Cornyan and others introducing him, and I forgot what ultimately
Speaker 10: led him to the decision against him. I think it
Speaker 10: had to do with his kids, certainly his family, and
Speaker 10: it's a big decision. Well absolutely, you know, as you know,
Speaker 10: there are people myself included, that would like to see
Speaker 10: you run, whether it was governor or something else. And
Speaker 10: maybe that'll still happen. But it's not just something you
Speaker 10: declare one day you're going to throw your hat in
Speaker 10: the ring, and that's all there is to it.
Speaker 5: That's just the beginning. It's the actual race itself, and.
Speaker 10: You know it's asking a lot of a person and
Speaker 10: that person's family, and to answer your question directly, right now,
Speaker 10: I don't know that there's a candidate that really breaks through.
Speaker 10: I know Greg Lopez announced on my show today that
Speaker 10: he is going to reach across the aisle. He's going
Speaker 10: to hold town halls. He's going to go and meet
Speaker 10: the people where they are, and I think that's a
Speaker 10: good start. Any candidate on our set is going to
Speaker 10: have a chance has to break through that unaffiliated wall,
Speaker 10: which we have not been able to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and the issues that affect unaffiliated voters
Speaker 2: might be a little different than the ones Republicans are
Speaker 2: looking at. But I think there's a cross section of
Speaker 2: things that every voter in this state has a feeling about,
Speaker 2: you know, condition of our roads, fentanyl, you know, education system,
Speaker 2: making it fair and accessible to everyone. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think if you boil it down to kind of those
Speaker 2: common those common themes that affect every household, you know,
Speaker 2: a candidate may resonate a little better. And I think
Speaker 2: when you're looking at, you know, primary races, it's always
Speaker 2: the idea that the candidate on either side is going
Speaker 2: to try to appeal to those to the far right
Speaker 2: or far and left and then sometimes can't get back
Speaker 2: to the middle for the unaffiliated voter. With that, it's
Speaker 2: been a blast filling in for Dan Caples again. I
Speaker 2: look forward to every opportunity I get to do this. Ryan,
Speaker 2: thanks for taking care of me on the other side
Speaker 2: of the glass. Kelly, thanks for setting up all the
Speaker 2: phone calls, and hopefully I'll get a chance to do
Speaker 2: this again in the near future. Today we are listening
Speaker 2: to the Dan Capleas show being filled in by Steve Raims,
Speaker 2: Weld County Sheriff, and we'll see you next time.