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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to October. What's up everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ben and I'm Nicole, and you're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>Wicked and Graham, a true crime podcast Morning.

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<v Speaker 1>The following podcast content and material intended.

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<v Speaker 2>For a mature audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener discretion is advised. Is that a bit much?

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<v Speaker 2>At? It was a lot? That was a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I am excited. It's October, it's creepy, spooky season, Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>is here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you're a monthy ah, yes it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I love it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you do. Wow, morning, good morning. Apparently Ben is

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<v Speaker 2>wide awake and I'm just waking up.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely. I just realized I'm like exhaling into my mic,

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<v Speaker 1>so I gotta like change that position a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, welcome everyone. Hello, Hello, So hopefully you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are all doing good.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got some bombs we're dropping on you today.

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<v Speaker 2>We lots of times have big bombs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we apparently do. And we're not just like chatty

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<v Speaker 1>chatty this morning, because we are recording in a morning

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<v Speaker 1>this time, not evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at us.

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<v Speaker 1>Go we legit have some shit we gotta drop for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I want to drop the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. Let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, ready, Yes, so for Halloween, because I should actually

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<v Speaker 2>be letting you announce it since you're like halloeen pumped.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what we're doing?

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<v Speaker 1>We're good.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing a week of Halloween, Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>Week, Hello week.

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<v Speaker 2>If you literally from October twenty fifth to thirty first,

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<v Speaker 2>there will be we'll be dropping a podcast of sorts

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<v Speaker 2>every single.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, every single day. You guys are gonna get something

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<v Speaker 1>from us. It's not going to be like an episode

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<v Speaker 1>that we always drop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it could be like just little scary tales or

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<v Speaker 2>something one day or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be half an hour, it could be full hours.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see. But you'll get something every day for the

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<v Speaker 1>entire week of Halloween, and of course the days leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to Halloween, we're going to be doing some a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more Halloween appropriate themed podcast episodes. So that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I think I have one plan for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have to kind of research some more spooky tales, some.

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<v Speaker 1>More spooky tales. Well today we got a good spooky tale,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're dropping one other thing, we are.

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<v Speaker 1>You go ahead, I'm blanking on what was it again?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, are you serious?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right, No, I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got it. Sorry, pad, maybe you aren't awake.

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<v Speaker 1>We officially have our Patreon live. You guys have been

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<v Speaker 1>bugging us like about Patreon and merch and lots of

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. Merch is still coming come down the pipe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably gonna be next month. But our Patreon is

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<v Speaker 1>live where you can go sign up, you can help

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<v Speaker 1>support us, and you can get all sorts of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of benefits.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bonuses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. The one bonus that isn't in effect yet

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<v Speaker 1>is ad free episodes because currently all our episodes are

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<v Speaker 1>ad free, but we will be implementing ads by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this month, I think around there, so that

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<v Speaker 1>bonus will be kicking in very soon. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>there's another bonus like behind the scenes content which is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be epic and extra episodes. And this month

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's been bugging us a lot for this one and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Hyped to do it good.

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<v Speaker 1>We are doing the first ever extra episode on over

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<v Speaker 1>on Patreon only. It's going to be Drunk Wicket and Grim.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you have to pay extra for that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. Speaking of Drunk, Wicked and Grim, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>Sober October this month with the exception of recording Drunk

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you had that plan.

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<v Speaker 1>I did have that plan for a while, and then

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<v Speaker 1>about I don't know, a week and a half two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, I was like, I should just do sober October.

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<v Speaker 2>Is sober October a thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, is that like a month we're actually because I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard it more so for January, not October.

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<v Speaker 1>No, well, sober October because it rhymes. Oh okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>sober October is a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>People I think do it for January because they like

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<v Speaker 2>drank a little bit too much over the holidays or

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<v Speaker 2>something exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I know this is a thing. I do know.

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<v Speaker 1>You what's his name that Joe Rogan does sober October

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<v Speaker 1>because he's like a big weed fanatic.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Oh, he does it for alkohol and weed

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<v Speaker 2>or just alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>I think weed is his bigger vice. So he cuts

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<v Speaker 1>up weed, but I'm sure he cuts up boos too,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just sobriety and in general, because we definitely

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<v Speaker 1>like to indulge. I think we sound like we drink

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more than we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like right now, I'm just drinking tea. I Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually I think you drink a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>than me. I do, but I do lots of times.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have it like a beverage in the evening or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>but definitely not every evening.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably have a drink every evening, get home from work,

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<v Speaker 1>crack a beer, but that beer will last me the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the night. And then of course recording a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>got a crack a beer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, so she like, I don't know, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>because it's our chill time. We don't need a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of chill time. So especially when the other person's presenting,

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<v Speaker 2>then the person at me today listening, I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to crack a drink and just enjoy this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So that's that's generally how it works. But we

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<v Speaker 1>do not condone alcoholism or substance abuse. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I am doing sober October this month for you. Ben

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<v Speaker 1>feel good about it. Although I wanted to drink the

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<v Speaker 1>other day and I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's been a few times where you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>are we were at a restaurant and they had a

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<v Speaker 2>special and you're like, I could go for that, but nope.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean I can't have a drink still with the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>just not alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I have coffee today, so that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, and maybe next time it'll be delicious chocolate milk

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<v Speaker 1>something to help me relac U. Yeah, but those are

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<v Speaker 1>the bombs, you guys. So head over to our Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>We will put a link down in the below the

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<v Speaker 1>description of this podcast, so you can go check it

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<v Speaker 1>out if you want and sign up, and we'd appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your support for now though, after that, we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to dive into today's case. Yes, are you ready?

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<v Speaker 2>There's some excitement for today's case. I'm into it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a crazy one crazy and.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't know anything about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know nothing about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care anything. Well, okay, maybe i've heard it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the name of nothing rings a bell.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you even know who slender Man is?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? I don't? Which is I know bad? Really don't

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<v Speaker 2>judge me?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, then I wrote I wrote this podcast pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good because I don't explain who slender Man is until

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<v Speaker 1>much later on. So for those who do know slender

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<v Speaker 1>Man in this case, buckle up because we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go on that crazy ride. And for you, Nicole, you're

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<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna want to buckle up a little extra. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is the slender Man stabbing of twenty fourteen. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I did find this little bit of a quote of

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<v Speaker 1>a description of slender Man, and I'm going to start

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<v Speaker 1>us off with this here. Okay, So slender Man is

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<v Speaker 1>scary not because of what you know about him, but

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<v Speaker 1>because of what you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>With that being said, let's get into this. So the

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<v Speaker 1>story takes place. I just realized I did not look

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<v Speaker 1>up how to pronounce the name of this I've been

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<v Speaker 1>writing it. I'm like, I got her to look up

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<v Speaker 1>how to pronounce this. I never did look it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me one second. I'm gonna pause this and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna YouTube it so I can actually pronounce it.

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<v Speaker 2>Work.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I got it, you got it. It takes place

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<v Speaker 1>in Waukesha, Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I was pretty sure that's how you say it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Double check right on. I like that, good for.

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<v Speaker 1>You trying to try to try.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is actually an example that we actually try.

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<v Speaker 1>We do. We try, and we try, and sometimes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the times we fail. But yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So it takes place in Waukesha, Wisconsin, and it's described

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<v Speaker 1>as a politic a politically conservative, and fairly bleak place

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<v Speaker 1>by a lot of people. Okay, despite spot on a

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<v Speaker 1>few quote unquote best places to live lists. So the

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<v Speaker 1>downtown is marked by endless passing freight trains and a

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<v Speaker 1>biker bar or two. There isn't like a lot really

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<v Speaker 1>not really a lot for them to do unless they

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<v Speaker 1>like play sports and go outside, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>So is it a relatively small town?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. I didn't look at the population. We

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<v Speaker 1>could take another break and I could look it up

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<v Speaker 1>for that's so the kids basically tend to gather outside

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<v Speaker 1>in like park areas, wreck areas and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not really many places for them to hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have Peyton Lutner who was twelve years old.

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<v Speaker 1>She had gone by the name Bella since apelled the

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<v Speaker 1>first grade. We are gonna go by her given name, Peyton.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that name, actually, so do I.

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<v Speaker 1>And I made the choice of calling your Peyton. Like

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<v Speaker 1>after I wrote all this, so I went through and

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<v Speaker 1>renamed rewrote it as Peyton. So I may have Bella

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<v Speaker 1>once or twice, and if I say Bella, my apologies,

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<v Speaker 1>that means that means Peyton, though I'm pretty sure I

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<v Speaker 1>got it. Okay, So she'd gone by the name Bellis

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<v Speaker 1>it's about the first grade. We'll call her Peyton. Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>Geyser had been Peyton's best friend since about the fourth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>So these two are like two peas in a pod.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Both girls had similar interests growing up, and they grew

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<v Speaker 1>into their lives side by side. They love cats, playing

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<v Speaker 1>dress up. They would frequently dress up as cats at

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<v Speaker 1>home and school.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton actually even drew whiskers on the back of her

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<v Speaker 1>hand lots in admiration of the animals that she loves

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a little bit of that like purity for.

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<v Speaker 2>You today, Okay? Is that gonna? Am? I gonna hate

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<v Speaker 1>There's a little fact about that, But it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>hate to know it. It's it's a heartwarming fact about that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But you're definitely gonna it's gonna go downhill from here.

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<v Speaker 1>About this case, Morgan was obsessed with Harry Potter. Her

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<v Speaker 1>and Peyton would occasionally run through the school grounds, imagining

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<v Speaker 1>Voldemort was chase chasing them. I can't talk today, I

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<v Speaker 2>It is the morning, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's better. Okay. Both girls had a very active imagination,

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<v Speaker 1>but Morgan in particular would come up with many situations

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<v Speaker 1>and characters to live through and pretend and play. Peyton

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<v Speaker 1>which was Horning Middle School. They were in fact referred

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, so what's wrong with that?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to be a girly girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Were just like they weren't bad behaved kids, were they

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<v Speaker 2>Their own people, beat to their own drum or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>imaginative or some described him as maybe a little bit immature,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were not interested in like boys or bands

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but that honestly, that imagination will take them further

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, definitely, Yeah, I mean that's that's me.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a huge imagination. I even have a toy

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<v Speaker 1>lightsaber replica lightsaber. I should clarify that replica lightsaber that

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<v Speaker 1>you will find me spinning around lots in pretending I

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can do that in the tiny

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<v Speaker 1>But now I have a wide forest out front of

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<v Speaker 1>American From that's gonna happen one of these things. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to look outside and it'll be dark and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>Tree or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Most likely this is this is the life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is what you chose.

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<v Speaker 1>So Morgan and Peyton continue to be best friends and

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<v Speaker 1>mostly only having each other when in twenty fourteen they

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<v Speaker 1>their imagination things that they had going on through the

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<v Speaker 1>day and what they had to share it together. This year, though,

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<v Speaker 1>things began to change a little bit. Morgan had made

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<v Speaker 1>a new friend named Anissa Weir. Now Anissa actually lived

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<v Speaker 1>in the same housing complex as Morgan as well, called

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<v Speaker 1>the same bus every day. Anissa and Peyton knew each other,

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<v Speaker 1>but Morgan was like the friend they had in common

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. Okay, so if you were to ask

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<v Speaker 1>both Anissa and Peyton, they would both say that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan is their best friend.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, so it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's It became this group of three girls, but Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>was the tie between the two, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so all three girls were in their first year

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<v Speaker 1>at middle school. Anissa and Morgan were socially isolated by

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<v Speaker 1>this time in their life. They were kind of loaners,

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<v Speaker 1>but friends with each other sort of thing, and again

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<v Speaker 1>friends with Peyton. Peyton was much more open and she

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<v Speaker 1>was considered to be a bit more of a social butterfly.

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan even acknowledged that Bella's role in her life was

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<v Speaker 1>literally her social lifeline. And there's a quote here from Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>she was my only friend for a long time. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>but this year she had a Nissa of course the

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<v Speaker 1>new friend. Now. Anissa, like I said, was socially isolated

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<v Speaker 1>as well, but she looked out for Morgan because Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>was quite often a target for being picked on. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how in depth it was, if it was

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<v Speaker 1>like full on bullying or consistent bullying, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely situations of her like being made fun of or

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<v Speaker 1>poked fun a little bit here and there, and Nissa

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<v Speaker 1>would actually stand up for her. She would like make

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<v Speaker 1>sure it stop sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that is the age that I feel like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of bullying happens too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was one incident where she actually I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>it's like in the arm because it doesn't say but

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<v Speaker 1>and even like punched a boy and made him cry

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<v Speaker 1>after he was making fun of Morgan. Good, so good

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<v Speaker 1>for her. She's a bit more of that badass on

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<v Speaker 1>the end.

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<v Speaker 2>There love that stick up for yourself right and your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, gotta do thatta, Gotta do the right thing. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be a dick. Don't that's just not cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Like bullies, No, they can fuck off. No kidding, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the point of that, There's just no point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no kidding. So Morgan's birthday was on May sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>and Morgan was turning twelve, and on Friday, May thirtieth

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty fourteen, she had a birthday sleepover with her

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<v Speaker 1>two closest friends and together the three girls attended to

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<v Speaker 1>sleepover at Morgan's house.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a good old jolly time as any

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<v Speaker 1>girl sleepover. I'm imagining that they're in nineties and pillow

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<v Speaker 1>fights because that's all girls ever do, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>talk about boys in the film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure of it exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, one thing about the town they do live in.

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<v Speaker 1>There there is a skate land at least.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it's called, like skate park.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an indoor roller rink. Okay, so it's especially popular

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday nights apparently. So it's like picturesque like picture this.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like a DJ who plays like the top hits.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a constellation of like bright glowing disco ball lights

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor. Everyone's rollerblading around the roller rink that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that does sound really fun, except for that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like skate or like I can't do that. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't roller sk sk skate, No, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Can roller blade. I've never tried roller skates. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's actually where you have the four Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the tandem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that may be a bit better than just roller skating.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe, I don't know, maybe it'd be harder.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows, who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>People who've tried both, they know, Yeah, tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Us what's easier. Maybe we'll try one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe maybe. So as part of 's birthday, the

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<v Speaker 1>three girls headed around there. I headed over there sorry

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<v Speaker 1>around dinner time. Morgan's father, Matt, took the girls there,

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<v Speaker 1>and he kind of played their chaperone for the evening.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a good time in the left of the

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<v Speaker 1>rink at about nine thirty, when Morgan said she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to leave. Okay, So back at Morgan's house. The girls

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<v Speaker 1>continued their good time the goofedway the evening, giggling and

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<v Speaker 1>passing the time on their laptops until eventually they settled

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<v Speaker 1>down together and.

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<v Speaker 2>Went to bed. I definitely didn't have a laptop at

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<v Speaker 2>my I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, right at my slumber parties in twenty fourteen too,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, because I would have been a lot younger.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think there was laptops when I would

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<v Speaker 2>have had.

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<v Speaker 1>That's about the track I was about to get on.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I think twenty fourteen though, like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, place it was like now it would be tablet

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<v Speaker 2>had their tablets.

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<v Speaker 1>With tablets and phones and laptops and computer and PlayStation

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<v Speaker 1>and Xbox. Yeah. Okay, Okay, I do want to ask,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any idea where this case is going

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<v Speaker 1>so far? Any clue whatsoever?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I feel like something bad's going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen to these girls.

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<v Speaker 1>You think something bad's going to happen to the girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's the only thing I can think of. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only place my head's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you are going to hate this story just an

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<v Speaker 1>f way. Oh so, so the next morning, the girls

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<v Speaker 1>woke up and they're having a good morning. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them decided it was a fucking great idea for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>to crush up granola bars and stick them into silly

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<v Speaker 1>putty and then fling it to the roof. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of sleep over there, haven't They were just

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<v Speaker 1>having a good old grand time doing that's so random, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then they dressed. They played dress up and pretend

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<v Speaker 1>like basically, cause play is basically what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Each of them were acting out their own character that

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<v Speaker 1>they looked up towards and or imagined up. Morgan was

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<v Speaker 1>data from Star Trek or data whichever way you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say. I'm not a Star Trek fan. I do

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<v Speaker 1>know the character, but I'm pretty sure it's data how

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<v Speaker 1>people mostly say it. So she was data from Star

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<v Speaker 1>Trek next generation. Peyton was a princess in a pink dress,

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<v Speaker 1>all fun, and Anissa was a character of her own

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<v Speaker 1>creation called a Prostatrol, which is quite inappropriate and uninteresting.

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan even commented later that that's quite the quite the character.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that is a prostatrol.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So after all that, they ended up having a

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<v Speaker 1>nice breakfast of donuts and strawberries, which is a dope

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<v Speaker 1>as fuck breakfast. I know what I want for breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>on my next birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>No kidding. Where do they get the donuts from? Him?

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<v Speaker 2>Where they homemade or just spot?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I'm pretty sure their parents are like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the here's a sick birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, they made her birthday pretty sweet. It sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like a sweet birthday. It does like, can I have

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<v Speaker 2>this or my birthday?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we just have donuts and strawberries? Like every breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually want to try to make donuts. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that'd be super fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you still don't mean, I know, but I have

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<v Speaker 2>to make cheese kick next.

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<v Speaker 1>I love cheesecake so much. You really do, I really

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<v Speaker 1>really do. Okay, So, after eating what I describe as

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<v Speaker 1>the breakfast of champions, all three girls headed outside and

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<v Speaker 1>set off to a local park called Davy's Park. The

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<v Speaker 1>park is a green, grassy field about the size of

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<v Speaker 1>a city block, and on the way there, Peyton was

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<v Speaker 1>walking ahead of Morgan Nissa as the two of those

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<v Speaker 1>girls kind of agged a little bit behind her. It

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<v Speaker 1>was in this moment when Peyton had her back turned

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<v Speaker 1>to Morgan. Morgan pulled up the side of her black

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<v Speaker 1>plaid jacket and showed a Nissa what she had taken

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<v Speaker 1>from the kitchen, A long, thin kitchen knife, the kind

430
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<v Speaker 1>you had used to cut up vegetables or like a steak.

431
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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, yeah.

432
00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:53.519
<v Speaker 1>And a Nissa said this, I thought, dear God, this

433
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<v Speaker 1>is really happening.

434
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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

435
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<v Speaker 1>It was then and there, all the months of their

436
00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:08.440
<v Speaker 1>planning and fantasizing had come down to this day. Oh no, really,

437
00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna let you soak this in for a moment.

438
00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, how old are these kids? Sorry?

439
00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Twelve?

440
00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Ah, you're just looking at me, and I like,

441
00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:20.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't know what.

442
00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.839
<v Speaker 1>To Sayah, that's what you say?

443
00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Lah? Oh okay, yeah, you're right. Okay, Well, maybe it's

444
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<v Speaker 2>not gonna happen what I think. No, maybe they're gonna

445
00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:31.880
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna do something bad someone else.

446
00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Once at the park, they stopped at some public restrooms

447
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<v Speaker 1>at the northeastern edge of the park, and it was

448
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<v Speaker 1>inside that Anissa and Morgan attacked Peyton.

449
00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh great.

450
00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Morgan lunged at Peyton and tried to restrain her, and

451
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<v Speaker 1>Anissa kind of half assed pushed Bella's head against the

452
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<v Speaker 1>brick wall. But in this moment, things fell apart a

453
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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Morgan fell apart a little more specifically.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, this is like her best friend, I thought.

455
00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. She let go of Peyton and began frantically pacing

456
00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and singing inside the public bathroom.

457
00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, so she has something going on here, and.

458
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<v Speaker 1>Nissa took control of the situation told Peyton to leave

459
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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom and go outside while she comforted Morgan. Now

460
00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:22.480
<v Speaker 1>while comforting her, apparently she consoled her by petting her

461
00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.079
<v Speaker 1>like a cat. And after a few more moments, Morgan

462
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<v Speaker 1>and Nissa emerged in the bathroom and it was just

463
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<v Speaker 1>as if nothing had ever happened.

464
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<v Speaker 2>Did Peyton run home?

465
00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Nope, Peyton was outside waiting for him. It was as

466
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<v Speaker 1>if Peyton's like two best friends in the world and

467
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<v Speaker 1>Morgan best friends for years, just never assaulted her, never

468
00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:45.000
<v Speaker 1>attempted to assault her.

469
00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can't believe she waited. I would have been

470
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<v Speaker 2>like Pace.

471
00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:50.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I would have done that too, But

472
00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:53.559
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's a tough situation, like and it's really

473
00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:56.279
<v Speaker 1>hard to understand, like the psychology be kind. Why Peyton

474
00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:58.599
<v Speaker 1>stuck around like beside her friends.

475
00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, she obviously didn't super unsafe.

476
00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Then, or maybe she was just like in shock, didn't

477
00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:05.920
<v Speaker 1>what to do, okay, I don't know. Maybe it was

478
00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like it could just be like the sheer trust in

479
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<v Speaker 1>her friends. Maybe one theory is maybe she thought it

480
00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:15.160
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit more of like imaginative imaginative play

481
00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that she's used to that just went a little bit

482
00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:21.759
<v Speaker 1>too far because they do act out scenes and have imagination.

483
00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:24.720
<v Speaker 1>So maybe she just thought it went a little bit

484
00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:28.759
<v Speaker 1>too far or something, huh. And like I said, maybe

485
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<v Speaker 1>it was shocked. I think that's kind of my my theory.

486
00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:35.279
<v Speaker 1>She just had like usion, Yeah, confusion and shock, like

487
00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:37.559
<v Speaker 1>that didn't just happen like no, like it was an act,

488
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<v Speaker 1>Like there's no way.

489
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<v Speaker 2>So like the plan was literally that they were going

490
00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:46.079
<v Speaker 2>to basically stab and kill her probably, but then Morgan

491
00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:53.200
<v Speaker 2>for some reason got a conscience maybe Okay, I hope that. Okay,

492
00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:55.480
<v Speaker 2>you just keep giving me the side and I'm like,

493
00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:58.599
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I'm just hear what you have to say.

494
00:22:59.039 --> 00:22:59.799
<v Speaker 1>What you're thinking.

495
00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not going there for some reason.

496
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I can't answer these questions yet. We will answer them.

497
00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:08.279
<v Speaker 2>But honestly, this whole situation that's happening right now makes

498
00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:12.759
<v Speaker 2>no sense for the title of this Well, it will, okay,

499
00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:14.559
<v Speaker 2>it will, because that's why I'm just like, it's that's

500
00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:16.599
<v Speaker 2>why I'm like mostly confused, I think, because it just

501
00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:17.599
<v Speaker 2>doesn't Okay.

502
00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:20.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, we're going to be going through the story of

503
00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>what happened and then into why it happened the way

504
00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.119
<v Speaker 1>it did, So that's kind of how we're doing okay, okay,

505
00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:28.400
<v Speaker 1>so stick around if you want to hear why and

506
00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:30.000
<v Speaker 1>how and all that sort of stuff.

507
00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Just stick around that.

508
00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Do you have you ever watched that show? I

509
00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>think it was a Canadian cartoon show sticking around.

510
00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

511
00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:39.839
<v Speaker 1>No, they say that at the end of the just

512
00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:42.160
<v Speaker 1>stick around. Yeah, at the end of like not the show,

513
00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:45.160
<v Speaker 1>but like the intermissions, like we'll be back. Just stick

514
00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:47.559
<v Speaker 1>around it just like flash.

515
00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Flashback. That's funny.

516
00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So anyways, that aside, where am I I was

517
00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:58.680
<v Speaker 1>looking away from notes for so long?

518
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Out of the bathroom?

519
00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, So we're not too sure why Peyton decided

520
00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:07.480
<v Speaker 1>stick around, but she did. She waited outside the bathroom

521
00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:11.279
<v Speaker 1>and she regrouped with the regrouped with her friends when

522
00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>they came out, and from there they simply decided that

523
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.400
<v Speaker 1>they were going to go play hide and seek. Yeah,

524
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:20.319
<v Speaker 1>so they decided, you know, far boundary of the park

525
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:21.359
<v Speaker 1>was a great spot to do that.

526
00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, okay, well, I do actually feel like this

527
00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:25.400
<v Speaker 2>shows Peyton's character a lot though.

528
00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, you know, yeah, she's definitely got that stick by

529
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:34.319
<v Speaker 1>your friend's type attitude totally. So together they headed down

530
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:36.599
<v Speaker 1>to the end of Big Bend Road where the asphalt

531
00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:39.079
<v Speaker 1>turns to gravel and at the dead end of the

532
00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:42.799
<v Speaker 1>road by the woods. They decided that's what they're going

533
00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:43.240
<v Speaker 1>to play.

534
00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Now.

535
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<v Speaker 1>Re mind you, these are like suburban type woods as well.

536
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:50.640
<v Speaker 1>They're like quote unquote woods quote unquote forest sort of thing. Okay,

537
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>so it's like sparse trees with some shrubs and that

538
00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:55.400
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing scattered about and not really like heavily

539
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:58.319
<v Speaker 1>trees with entangled bush and like high willows or that.

540
00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Like not what we're used to like when I think

541
00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:02.920
<v Speaker 2>about the forest.

542
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, different, it's more like when you think about the

543
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:08.160
<v Speaker 1>movies and you see people like running through the bush

544
00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>because it's like fairly open like.

545
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:12.480
<v Speaker 2>That sort of stuff. We can't just run through the bush.

546
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>No, we have to like stumble for ten minutes to

547
00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>get ten feet through ours.

548
00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:17.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so fucking thick.

549
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:22.319
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's hard for them to make that. It's

550
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>hard for us to make away from point A to

551
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.079
<v Speaker 1>point B, but it's a little bit easier for them now.

552
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Once they got there, they played the game of hide

553
00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:30.799
<v Speaker 1>and seek. It began, and though it wasn't much of

554
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a game, it didn't last long, Morgan counted first, and

555
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:37.319
<v Speaker 1>A Nissa and Bella hid and A Nissa actually tried

556
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:39.079
<v Speaker 1>to tackle Peyton but couldn't hold her down.

557
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, this isn't ending.

558
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:42.599
<v Speaker 1>It's not ending.

559
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Peyton, it's home.

560
00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>She do, she do, she really does. But it was

561
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:51.079
<v Speaker 1>at this moment that Morgan took out the knife out

562
00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:54.319
<v Speaker 1>of its hiding spot and passed it to a Nissa,

563
00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>but A Nissa quickly refused it and handed it back,

564
00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.799
<v Speaker 1>saying that she was too squeamish. All the while, Peyton

565
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:02.640
<v Speaker 1>was none the wiser of what was happening, as she

566
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>was crouched down in the ground admiring some flowers, not

567
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.559
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to what was transpiring behind her.

568
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh this poor girl.

569
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:16.640
<v Speaker 1>So during the conversation between Morgan and Nissa, Morgan said,

570
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:20.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to until you tell me to, then

571
00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:23.880
<v Speaker 1>began to walk away, clearly frustrated. But after she had

572
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.160
<v Speaker 1>gone only about five feet, A Nissa stopped her in

573
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<v Speaker 1>her tracks when she shouted, kitty now, gobilistic, go crazy.

574
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh okay, oh no no no.

575
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.599
<v Speaker 1>Frozen in her steps, Morgan's unforgiving voice replied with words

576
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>that are nothing short of a fucking horror film. She said,

577
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>don't be afraid. I'm only a little kitty cat. Oh

578
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.160
<v Speaker 1>And in that moment, Morgan turned and rushed towards Peyton

579
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:59.279
<v Speaker 1>with her NiFe, pushed her onto the ground. With the

580
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:01.359
<v Speaker 1>knife still in her hand, she brought it up and

581
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>began thrusting it on top of her best friend, repeatedly

582
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:10.400
<v Speaker 1>into her chest, abdomen, arms, and legs, for a total

583
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:15.759
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen times. The knife punctured her stomach, her liver,

584
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>her pancreas, and barely missing a major artery near her heart.

585
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so she didn't die.

586
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, not yet.

587
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, only this is just wild. Yeah, I feel like this.

588
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:34.680
<v Speaker 2>What's her name, Anista? Anissa is like a terrible influence.

589
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a man of her. I feel like she

590
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.240
<v Speaker 2>has to be a terrible influence to Morgan because Morgan

591
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.480
<v Speaker 2>and Peyton were friends and this person now is coming

592
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:49.599
<v Speaker 2>in and doing this. We'll get into that later too, Okay, dang, I.

593
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Coffee sip coffee break. Okay, So, in pain and in shock,

594
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Peyton was screaming. She screamed, I hate you. I trusted you,

595
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and in fact I trusted you was the last word

596
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 1>she ever said. To Peyton. She tried to get up

597
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and walk away, get away, but she couldn't.

598
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Wait, I'm confused. Who said that to Peyton? Morgan said

599
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:18.240
<v Speaker 2>that to me?

600
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Peyton said that to Morgan. So Peyton said, I hate you,

601
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I trusted you. Did I get the names mixed up?

602
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think so, but I'm just clarifying. Okay, okay.

603
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>So Peyton, while being attacked, screamed that to her attacker Morgan,

604
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I hate you, I trusted you. That was the last

605
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>word she ever actually said to Morgan. She tried to

606
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:39.359
<v Speaker 1>get up and walk or run away whatever she could,

607
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>but she couldn't. She wobbled, and that's when Anissa took

608
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>her by the arm and the two girls steered her

609
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>deeper into the woods and told her to lay.

610
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Down, laying there's just an immense pain, ye stab confusely,

611
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, Oh my goodness.

612
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Brutal, like I can't imagine that situation, Oh I can't.

613
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:02.359
<v Speaker 1>And then being led deeper in the woods by your assailants.

614
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people that you trusted and we're your friends and

615
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:06.200
<v Speaker 2>you just had an awesome summer party.

616
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So laying their defenseless amongst the trees with these

617
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>two supposed friends. Peyton laid there waiting for what was

618
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:18.079
<v Speaker 1>sure to be death with each passing breath. Morgan half

619
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>heartedly tried to dress Peyton's wounds with a leaf before

620
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>her Eninessa said wait here, we're going to go for help,

621
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 1>and they fled, leaving Peyton laying bleeding on the forest floor. However,

622
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the two girls had no intention of going to get help.

623
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

624
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Peyton, though, was not about to lie down and fade away.

625
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 1>She began to crawl away through the forest, across the

626
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:47.079
<v Speaker 1>grassy forest floor, and eventually she came upon a nearby

627
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:48.079
<v Speaker 1>paved pathway.

628
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh please have there'd be someone help her.

629
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:56.279
<v Speaker 1>It was pure chance that he came upon her. If

630
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 1>he didn't, the story may have a completely different outcome.

631
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>A cyclist by the name of Greg Steinberg discovered the

632
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 1>twelve year old Peyton laying on the middle of the

633
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:08.279
<v Speaker 1>bike path, covered in blood, a path that had actually

634
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>been blocked off where there was not supposed to be anyone.

635
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so this rule breaker, thank you? Hey.

636
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. There was a chained off pathway that he ended

637
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>up going over anyways, and he came across Peyton.

638
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:21.960
<v Speaker 2>On the path goodness.

639
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>He immediately called nine one one and began to comfort

640
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Peyton as he was able to confidently tell nine one

641
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>one dispatch, yes, she's breathing. He stayed on the call

642
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>with nine one one until they arrived on the scene

643
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.519
<v Speaker 1>and they were able to make They were able to

644
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>take the terrified girl to the nearby hospital only four

645
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.839
<v Speaker 1>miles away. But during the time that Peyton laid there

646
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 1>on the path, she was also able to tell who

647
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>was responsible for her condition.

648
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well it's nineteen stab woms. It's amazing that didn't

649
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 2>kill her.

650
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, she is very very lucky.

651
00:30:57.319 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that she was even still breathing after all that.

652
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Peyton was rushed to the hospital put into

653
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>immediate immediate surgery for her wounds. And it was about

654
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:09.599
<v Speaker 1>five hours later and a few miles away, police ran

655
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>into the suspects of the incident's.

656
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Incident, Dun Dum.

657
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.279
<v Speaker 1>They were resting in a grassy patch along the interstate

658
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:23.119
<v Speaker 1>of ninety four. The police approached them carefully, where that

659
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 1>these maybe the girls they were looking for, but their

660
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.119
<v Speaker 1>age caught the officers off guard. How could two young

661
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>girls this young be suspect of a stabbing one of

662
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 1>them noticed on Morgan's clothes, of course, blood, so he

663
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:43.839
<v Speaker 1>asked if she was injured. She said no, and he

664
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>said where did the blood come from? And Morgan said,

665
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:50.119
<v Speaker 1>I was forced to stab my best friend?

666
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, why was she forced to do? Tell?

667
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to tell quite yet on why yet.

668
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:00.319
<v Speaker 1>We're still getting into it. You're going to be finding

669
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 1>out why, who, how, everything?

670
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because right now, like this is just not making

671
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense. You know it makes sense, well,

672
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I know it will, but it's like, right now, I'm

673
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:12.960
<v Speaker 2>just like, come on, like, what the heck's going on here?

674
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:14.319
<v Speaker 2>I need more details.

675
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, like I said, we're going we're playing it out first,

676
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 1>the why and all that's coming up. So after their arrest,

677
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>over the course of nearly nine combined hours of interview,

678
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:28.359
<v Speaker 1>they claimed they were compelled to kill their best friend

679
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.359
<v Speaker 1>by a monster they encountered online.

680
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Okay, I never okay, sorry, I never went there.

681
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't go there at all.

682
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Really, no, holy So what's going through your head right now?

683
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:47.720
<v Speaker 2>That they were probably just like in some weird chat

684
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.359
<v Speaker 2>room or something, in some nasty mofo murderer, dude is

685
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:53.160
<v Speaker 2>like taking advantage of these young girls.

686
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Well no, but I mean in a sense, you're not

687
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.079
<v Speaker 1>far off in a sense.

688
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:04.440
<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't even them. Okay, here I was blaming

689
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>that one new girl, and I was like, I don't

690
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.319
<v Speaker 2>like her, but okay, I might eat those words.

691
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Uh no, you're not gonna eat those words. She was

692
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 1>definitely involved in this, so okay. So when the police

693
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.839
<v Speaker 1>actually discovered the girls, they were in fact making their

694
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 1>way too, said Monster. They were heading to Wisconsin's Nicolette

695
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>National Forest on foot, which is almost two hundred miles away.

696
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Morgan and Aissa, for whatever reason, thought he'd lived there

697
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>in a mansion, so they had packed granola bars, water bottles,

698
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and photos of their families to remember them by.

699
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh so they're like peace in out our town to

700
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.720
<v Speaker 2>go meet up with this dude.

701
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because though they were both very young, they had

702
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>been chosen for a dark and unique destiny that none

703
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.119
<v Speaker 1>of their classmates could possibly understand.

704
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:56.359
<v Speaker 2>According to them, huh oh wow.

705
00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:59.559
<v Speaker 1>They were convinced that once in the forest where this

706
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>being lived, they pushed far enough into the seven hundred

707
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>thousand acre forest, they would find the mansion where he lived,

708
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:11.119
<v Speaker 1>and he would welcome them in. The Monster in question is,

709
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of course none other than the dreaded slender Man.

710
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:17.599
<v Speaker 2>And surely he does not live.

711
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>In a mansion, or surely he does not live at all.

712
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's an urban legend. Oh okay, I've proven

713
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:29.599
<v Speaker 1>false urban legend. Like we have his history, which we're

714
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>going to go through right now. So it was on

715
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>June tenth of two thousand and nine, on a comedy

716
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.599
<v Speaker 1>website called Something Awful, a user by the name of

717
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Victor Surge whose real name is Eric Knudsen, posted a

718
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>pair of doctored images depicting a tall, dark figure standing

719
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.079
<v Speaker 1>behind unaware children and explains they were supposedly found in

720
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:54.320
<v Speaker 1>a library of small town. Now, through discussions and more

721
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>photographs that were.

722
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Like, what is your mic kind of from your face?

723
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know at my levels? Good? No, I'm good.

724
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, sorry sorry, Well it's just like seemed like you're

725
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 2>echine away. So I was just like making sure, no,

726
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:11.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm good.

727
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 1>So, through discussions more photoshopped images, the forum solidified that

728
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the features of the creature known as slender Man was faceless,

729
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:28.119
<v Speaker 1>and that was nearly constant through all these discussions. He

730
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:31.039
<v Speaker 1>typically wore a black suit and sometimes had tentacles growing

731
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>out of his back. He would abduct children, and death,

732
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>commonly involving mutilation, would be sure to follow.

733
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy.

734
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>The character seemed to take an instant grab the attention

735
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 1>of the Internet and propelled them into the dark corners

736
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 1>of lore and legend. His tall, faceless being was something

737
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>that unanimously creeped anyone out who came across his story,

738
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 1>only feeding into the hold, his hold that he had

739
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>on their minds. Okay, so, and that's where what you

740
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:02.079
<v Speaker 1>don't know about him really creeps people out, because he

741
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:06.599
<v Speaker 1>has completely blank faced, just nothing on his face. This tall, slender,

742
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:09.280
<v Speaker 1>like by tall, I mean like ten twelve fourteen feet

743
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness.

744
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was thinking like seven feet six feet tall.

745
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>And of course, like his height varies depending on a

746
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, So I mean it could be taller,

747
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>it could be a little bit shorter, but very skinny,

748
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:26.599
<v Speaker 1>very slender being in a just black suit.

749
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would do it.

750
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:33.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So eventually a web series called Marble Hornets was released.

751
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 1>It's a low budget collection of films posted to YouTube

752
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 1>which I have not watched yet, but I want to watch.

753
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>It's been something on my list for a long time.

754
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>They were shot with a cheap home video camera and

755
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:46.039
<v Speaker 1>soon becomes evident that slender Man was stalking the filmmaker.

756
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Following more and more growth of short films and doctored images,

757
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the video game called Slender later named as Slender the

758
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Eight Pages, was released, propelling the legend even further, and

759
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>finally even a Hollywood movie being released in two thousand

760
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.280
<v Speaker 1>eighteen titled slender Man.

761
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh seriously, I haven't even heard of that. No, No,

762
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:05.719
<v Speaker 2>have you watched that?

763
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 1>I haven't watched it yet, Okay. I was waiting for

764
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 1>it to come out. I'm like, ooh, I want to

765
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:11.559
<v Speaker 1>see this, and then I heard mixed reviews and I.

766
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Was kind of like, is it like a horror movie?

767
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's horror okay, and that's kind of like I

768
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I want to watch it. And then

769
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:18.519
<v Speaker 1>I just never did watch it, So I will watch

770
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:19.039
<v Speaker 1>it eventually.

771
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you need to watch it, definitely.

772
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>So today, slender Man is an urban legend of myth,

773
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>proven myth because we know exactly where it came from

774
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 1>and who created him, right, but many people claim to

775
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.800
<v Speaker 1>have encountered him in and have photograph proof of him.

776
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.320
<v Speaker 1>But one thing is for sure, if you find yourself

777
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>in the forest area park, you might want to be

778
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:42.800
<v Speaker 1>wary of who is following because it could be slender Man.

779
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Great, because we don't have enough to be wary about.

780
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Right, especially when walking through parks low night, Yeah, trees

781
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>and forested areas. But that now, if you do want

782
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>to summon the creature known as slender Man for whatever reason,

783
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 1>there is a ritual that you can do to summon him.

784
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>So step one. It works better at night, So you

785
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.519
<v Speaker 1>go out at night, of course, of course always Step

786
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:10.199
<v Speaker 1>two you go into the woods and you carve a

787
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>circle into a tree and put an X through it.

788
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>You press your face gently against a tree and close

789
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>your eyes. Step three, chant slender Man, slender Man. All

790
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>the children try to run. Then you repeat, keep chanting

791
00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:27.320
<v Speaker 1>that and four turn around.

792
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh gosh, that's actually a pretty easy one that

793
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:33.199
<v Speaker 2>to do, though it is, but.

794
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:35.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure you're not going to find yourself a

795
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:36.079
<v Speaker 1>slender Man.

796
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So if you ever see like a circle with

797
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.039
<v Speaker 2>a what is it a cross? Yeah, it's a circle

798
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:44.239
<v Speaker 2>next through it, then you know someone is that's interesting. Actually,

799
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I want to go do some of those around town.

800
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.400
<v Speaker 1>You want to do it? Just the ritual, just like

801
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>carbon there's kids out there probably done.

802
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure.

803
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 1>By now, slender Man is definitely not at his peak popularity.

804
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I would say probably was at his peak popularity Man

805
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.280
<v Speaker 1>probably around when the video game came out, which I

806
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>think was like two thousand and fifteen, fourteen something like that,

807
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>which is right around when this story is taking place.

808
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Anissa had actually admitted to introducing Morgan to slender Man

809
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>on the website Creepy Pasta, which is you know, creepy Pasta. No,

810
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 1>but it's like a website for creepy stories and forum

811
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:28.840
<v Speaker 1>discussions and stuff, okay, And she introduced her to this

812
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:33.159
<v Speaker 1>around October of twenty thirteen when they first met, right

813
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:37.159
<v Speaker 1>at the time, all girls were in their first year

814
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>at middle school. Anissa and Morgan were, like I said,

815
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>socially isolated, but Bella was more of an open social butterfly.

816
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:47.360
<v Speaker 1>So it gave a connection for Morgan and Anissa to

817
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:53.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of build the relationship through this newfound slender Man.

818
00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I repeated something here. So when Morgan was shown slender

819
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Man from Anissa, she immediately thought that she uncovered quote

820
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>unquote it's true identity. Through her life, she had been

821
00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>plagued by a figure that would follow her and watch her.

822
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.840
<v Speaker 1>She would even see it standing behind her in mirrors

823
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.559
<v Speaker 1>at times. Now, this figure she's sworn to have seen

824
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:25.760
<v Speaker 1>in person had a name because of Anissa, she knows

825
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.360
<v Speaker 1>its name, she knows its agenda, and it was clearly

826
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>going to kill her.

827
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy. That so Morgan had basically seen this figure

828
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:38.280
<v Speaker 2>earlier on.

829
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, she had seen something, and she is now identifying.

830
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:45.360
<v Speaker 2>It as a slender Man, which is terrifying.

831
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Definitely worried that slender Man is now after her and

832
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>would return, this time with the tentacles which is often

833
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 1>depicted out of slender Man's back, and then generally how

834
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:04.800
<v Speaker 1>he attacks you, oh girls. She confronted Anissa, and, according

835
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to court documents, Morgan told a Nissa she recognized slender

836
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>slender Man, sorry and all the things she had seen

837
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:16.280
<v Speaker 1>like in her life. She'd seen this personally, She'd seen

838
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:19.639
<v Speaker 1>it throughout her throat growing up, and A Nissa believed her,

839
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and A Nissa told Morgan that she knew slender Man

840
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:23.559
<v Speaker 1>personally as well.

841
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

842
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.800
<v Speaker 1>So together the two decided that they could stop him

843
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:31.800
<v Speaker 1>from killing her and her family. They just needed to

844
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:37.199
<v Speaker 1>make a sacrifice. Of someone h someone Morgan loved, someone

845
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>like Peyton.

846
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Wow, So she was doing this to protect herself and

847
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:43.480
<v Speaker 2>her family?

848
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, because she believed slender Man was after her.

849
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I guess is not a terrible motive.

850
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Not a terrible motive. You're right, it's not. But it

851
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make it Okay.

852
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Now, Oh gosh, no, not at all.

853
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:00.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna have a quick sip of cofee talk

854
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:01.159
<v Speaker 1>for a moment.

855
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, no, you're leaving mess at this cliffhanger? What

856
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:05.559
<v Speaker 2>am I supposed to say?

857
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>That was perfect?

858
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay? But what I did have a question for you?

859
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:10.960
<v Speaker 2>What the heck was it?

860
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Now?

861
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, it left me. It will come back, Okay.

862
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>So, over the next few months of meeting Anissa, her

863
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 1>and Morgan's friendship grew over their bond of isolation and

864
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>obsession with a monster. Like I said, I.

865
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Remember the question, Okay, go ahead. Did I wonder if

866
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:29.599
<v Speaker 2>pet or maybe I'm this is skipping head, I have

867
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:32.159
<v Speaker 2>no idea. But did Peyton have any idea that Morgan

868
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 2>was seeing these like weird visuals?

869
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.119
<v Speaker 1>I wonder No, not as far as I know.

870
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that was my question.

871
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:45.280
<v Speaker 1>So they began to develop fantasies of living with slender men.

872
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that would just be awful.

873
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the two planned that in killing someone and

874
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>making this sacrifice, they would actually become his proxies. They

875
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>would become kind of like his, his left hand men

876
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:05.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, not necessarily men, you know what I mean. Yeah.

877
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Eventually they agreed that the person would be Peyton, that

878
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 1>they would kill and they would stab her on May thirtieth,

879
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>at Morgan's twelfth birthday party. That was the plan. By

880
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:21.159
<v Speaker 1>this time, the planning had been going on since December,

881
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>making it six months of premeditation.

882
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>That's like a really long time.

883
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:30.079
<v Speaker 1>And during this time they used code words so no

884
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:31.239
<v Speaker 1>one would know what they were up to.

885
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh.

886
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Terms like cracker was used for both knife and killing,

887
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and camping trip was used to describe their escape plan.

888
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.039
<v Speaker 1>So when the day finally arrived, however, plans changed from

889
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>killing Morgan or sorry, from killing Peyton at Morgan's birthday party. Bye,

890
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:52.880
<v Speaker 1>this was the original plan. By taping her mouth shut,

891
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:56.239
<v Speaker 1>then cutting her neck with a knife, oh while she slept,

892
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 1>and then leaving her under the blankets to make it

893
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 1>look like she was still sleeping while they run from there,

894
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.400
<v Speaker 1>they apparently read in line that it's easy to kill

895
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:06.599
<v Speaker 1>someone while they're asleep, so it was perfect opportunity.

896
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Did they attempt that.

897
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.400
<v Speaker 1>No, they never did attempt it. Plans change from that

898
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to going out to the park where they would do

899
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.199
<v Speaker 1>it the next day instead, and while we know how

900
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:18.000
<v Speaker 1>it played out from there.

901
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they did intend to just leave. Are they

902
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.119
<v Speaker 2>were intending to leave Peyton there and hoping that she

903
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:26.960
<v Speaker 2>just died from her wounds? Basically?

904
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

905
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

906
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:33.639
<v Speaker 1>So in the time since their arrest, Morgan has been

907
00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:37.119
<v Speaker 1>examined by multiple psychiatrists and psychologists who concluded that she

908
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:42.079
<v Speaker 1>was clearly mentally ill and most likely schizophrenic and extremely

909
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.039
<v Speaker 1>rare diagnosis for a twelve year old, and there is

910
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:48.280
<v Speaker 1>no evidence of any malingering, which is a term psychologists

911
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:54.679
<v Speaker 1>use for quote unquote faking it. So her disorder is

912
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:57.840
<v Speaker 1>what had her seeing things at a very young age.

913
00:44:57.960 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's what I was thinking was happening.

914
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Even as a young child, her parents reported Morgan having

915
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.159
<v Speaker 1>issues with ghosts pulling in her hair and.

916
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Bed, so this had been going on a while.

917
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:13.119
<v Speaker 1>This has been going on for quite some time, and

918
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:16.920
<v Speaker 1>now being introduced to slender Man, Morgan had something to

919
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:20.519
<v Speaker 1>say that this is what's causing it and a reason

920
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.119
<v Speaker 1>for her being so terrified and going so far to

921
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:23.920
<v Speaker 1>try and stop it.

922
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh geez, So did her parents had previously tried to

923
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:30.719
<v Speaker 2>get her help?

924
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I wonder, No, they kind of brushed it off. Mostly

925
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.599
<v Speaker 1>it didn't seem like it was anything other than her

926
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:41.280
<v Speaker 1>extremely active imagination to say. Yeah, so, and I mean

927
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 1>she did well in school still, so like she had

928
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:46.800
<v Speaker 1>above average IQ good grades, that sort of stuff.

929
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:50.760
<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, if if it had been affecting her school,

930
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:52.480
<v Speaker 2>they definitely probably would have taken more action.

931
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Sure. Yeah, and there was, Like I said, there's nothing

932
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:57.719
<v Speaker 1>more to show that it was something as far as

933
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 1>mental health rather than just an overactive imagination for a

934
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:03.559
<v Speaker 1>young kid.

935
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So.

936
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Morgan and Nissa did not yet know that Bella actually,

937
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:13.639
<v Speaker 1>against all odds, had survived attack. Her surgery was successful,

938
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 1>and she was expected to make a full recovery with

939
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>her family by her side.

940
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

941
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Though, doctor John Kelman, I think, is how you say

942
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:25.119
<v Speaker 1>his name has a quote here that says, if the

943
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 1>knife had gone any farther, sorry this I added any farther.

944
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:32.280
<v Speaker 1>So here's his actual quote, if the knife had gone

945
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:35.519
<v Speaker 1>the width of a human hair further, she would not

946
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>have lived. Holy hat, that's how close it was to

947
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:40.039
<v Speaker 1>piercing the artery by her heart.

948
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that's like amazing luck.

949
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Then hey, yes, so I do want to say that

950
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Peyton for crawling out of the bush, the bush at twelve,

951
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 1>at twelve years old with nineteen stab wounds, surviving this

952
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 1>whole art deal. And we talked a little bit more

953
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:04.039
<v Speaker 1>about Peyton at the very end, she is badass of

954
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the day.

955
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, even the fact of that she was first attacked

956
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:11.840
<v Speaker 2>in the bathroom and then didn't leave, Yeah, like just

957
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:14.639
<v Speaker 2>waited for her friends, Like just shows that she's incredible.

958
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 2>So I would have been gone for sure.

959
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>So there are some more testimonies for Morgan's mental health

960
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:30.880
<v Speaker 1>other than what we've already talked about. Morgan's teacher, Missus Whedenbaum,

961
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he's, like you say the name, was concerned

962
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>enough to talk to Morgan's mother about her behavior in January,

963
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:41.360
<v Speaker 1>as Morgan actually was even briefly suspended for bringing me

964
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:46.239
<v Speaker 1>a hammer to school as well. Okay, her eccentricities, I

965
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:48.800
<v Speaker 1>guess is the best way to say it. Just kind

966
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.039
<v Speaker 1>of we're played off as being just just that, just

967
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:56.039
<v Speaker 1>she's eccentric, the act of imagination, So there's not a

968
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:59.440
<v Speaker 1>whole lot that one can really say would have predicted

969
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:05.159
<v Speaker 1>what happened. During questioning, however, Morgan did recall and described

970
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:11.559
<v Speaker 1>the incident as quote unquote stabby stab stab stab. I

971
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:17.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like anything while she was making vague, loose stabbing.

972
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Gestures with their left hair best friend.

973
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 1>She said it was like air, and she also went

974
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>on to tell police it was weird that I didn't

975
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:27.280
<v Speaker 1>feel any remorse.

976
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Very weird. Yeah.

977
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you're stabbing your best friend and you feel

978
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:36.519
<v Speaker 1>nothing but air or something wrong, no remorse, and describe

979
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 1>it as stabby stab stab stab, that is fucked up.

980
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh just a little so yeah. Immediately following the incident,

981
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:48.599
<v Speaker 1>the two girls were tried as adults as they were

982
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:54.199
<v Speaker 1>found mentally competent of their actions, even Morgan. They spent

983
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:57.800
<v Speaker 1>four months in juvenile detention center awaiting their trial. Okay,

984
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:02.239
<v Speaker 1>August first, a judge declared incompetent to stand trial after

985
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:04.400
<v Speaker 1>two doctors testified of her mental state.

986
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the other girl had nothing wrong with her then, hey,

987
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:11.519
<v Speaker 2>or no mental issues or anything that came up.

988
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Uh, no, not really no.

989
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Which is interesting. Yeah, so she should have been saying something,

990
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:18.440
<v Speaker 2>that's for sure.

991
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:23.480
<v Speaker 1>So Morgan worked out a plea agreement with the prosecutors

992
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.559
<v Speaker 1>in which she would avoid trial and pleaded guilty to

993
00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>attempted first degree murder of intentional homicide, but that her

994
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:35.880
<v Speaker 1>mental illness was the cause. So she is currently serving

995
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:39.480
<v Speaker 1>a maximum of forty year sentence at a mental health facility.

996
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Actually that's a long time.

997
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Where Nissa pleaded guilty to being a party to attempt

998
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 1>second degree intentional homicide and was to serve up to

999
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty five years in a mental health facility.

1000
00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:59.079
<v Speaker 2>But technically she also was the one that was like

1001
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:01.480
<v Speaker 2>told we're going to do it, so.

1002
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:06.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know she was. But she didn't technically do

1003
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:08.199
<v Speaker 1>it though, either, which is why I think the sentence

1004
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:08.920
<v Speaker 1>is a little less.

1005
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, so.

1006
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:13.400
<v Speaker 1>She didn't swing the knife, true, she was involved, but

1007
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:15.280
<v Speaker 1>she didn't stab anyone.

1008
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:15.639
<v Speaker 2>True.

1009
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So those are the sentencing. However, are you ready

1010
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:22.639
<v Speaker 1>for this?

1011
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, am I.

1012
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:29.519
<v Speaker 1>In March of twenty twenty one, a Nissa had put

1013
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:31.360
<v Speaker 1>in a request from the court or to the court

1014
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to release her from her institution.

1015
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Which is not very many years after the incident.

1016
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:40.159
<v Speaker 1>At the hearing, Judge Michael o'burne, I think is how

1017
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:45.679
<v Speaker 1>you say. The name requests are accepted in NISA's request,

1018
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:50.320
<v Speaker 1>agreeing to the recommendations from three doctors who evaluated her

1019
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:52.559
<v Speaker 1>and said that she did not pose a threat to

1020
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:57.639
<v Speaker 1>her or her to herself or others. She was released

1021
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:02.119
<v Speaker 1>as of September thirteenth, twenty twenty one, which is only

1022
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:04.719
<v Speaker 1>four weeks ago as of releasing the tests.

1023
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:08.559
<v Speaker 2>And how old would she be?

1024
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I think nineteen right now? What? Yeah, So, Anissa Weir

1025
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.719
<v Speaker 1>has been released and is now a free individual, and

1026
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Morgan is still in her facility and she was named

1027
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:22.519
<v Speaker 1>facilities supposed.

1028
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 2>To be getting like twenty five years up to.

1029
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:26.840
<v Speaker 1>She wasn't supposed to be getting it, but she was

1030
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:30.960
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be getting up to. Holy heck, you're good.

1031
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm just like, that's quite an incident, and that's

1032
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:38.440
<v Speaker 2>really she's still quite young, and okay, hopefully that's okay,

1033
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:43.639
<v Speaker 2>because honestly, that age, though nineteen, is still susceptible to

1034
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:47.559
<v Speaker 2>like being manipulated kind of right. Oh yeah, sure, So

1035
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I hope that that this doesn't I

1036
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:52.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know I just think she could easily be manipulated

1037
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:56.079
<v Speaker 2>again to doing something bad, because that's really not very

1038
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 2>much time to work on yourself, really, when you doing

1039
00:51:58.760 --> 00:51:59.679
<v Speaker 2>such a bad incident.

1040
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, though, I don't think she was manipulated to do this,

1041
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:06.719
<v Speaker 1>just to clarify that, because you said that she could

1042
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:08.880
<v Speaker 1>be manipulated to do something again, she wasn't.

1043
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:12.320
<v Speaker 2>She tagged along though, and she didn't. She didn't say

1044
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:14.719
<v Speaker 2>anything was wrong when what they were doing was clearly

1045
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 2>very wrong.

1046
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, for sure. But I just want to

1047
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:22.599
<v Speaker 1>let make it clear that Anissa and Morgan didn't manipulate

1048
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:26.159
<v Speaker 1>each other. They built off each other. Well yeah, so

1049
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:28.320
<v Speaker 1>one did not make the other do anything.

1050
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what I guess I'm trying to say, she

1051
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 2>finds a partner that's into really bad shit, say right, yeah,

1052
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:38.360
<v Speaker 2>and just goes along with that.

1053
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true.

1054
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.239
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I just think that's not enough time.

1055
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>But well a lot of people agree with you. A

1056
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:51.039
<v Speaker 1>lot of people agree with you, So so we're gonna

1057
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:52.519
<v Speaker 1>move on to a bit of Peyton here.

1058
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

1059
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 1>So Peyton has made a full recovery since her attack,

1060
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:01.559
<v Speaker 1>though she said she still wary of making new friends

1061
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:05.320
<v Speaker 1>and has trouble sleeping. Man can imagine, right, and she

1062
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:09.000
<v Speaker 1>had trouble sleeping alone for the longest time. So at nineteen,

1063
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:12.400
<v Speaker 1>she is expected to be in university. Inspired by what

1064
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:15.400
<v Speaker 1>happened to her at the age of twelve, she wants

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00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:17.800
<v Speaker 1>to pursue a career, a career in the medical field.

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00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Nice Peyton has also made it clear that she never

1067
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.760
<v Speaker 1>wants to see her attackers ever again, but she has

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<v Speaker 1>actually thanked Morgan, saying this is a quote from her

1069
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:34.280
<v Speaker 1>just because of what she did. I have the life

1070
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.079
<v Speaker 1>I have now, I really like it, and I have

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00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a plan. I didn't have a plan when I was twelve,

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00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and now I do because everything that I went through.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that give me goosebumps, Like, holy fuck, it takes

1074
00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:50.880
<v Speaker 2>amazing Hey, and now she's probably going to be a

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00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:51.760
<v Speaker 2>doctor or something.

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00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definite badass of the day totally.

1077
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 2>But I also wonder how this is affecting her with

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00:53:57.440 --> 00:53:59.159
<v Speaker 2>that one person being released.

1079
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Now, Yeah, I imagine not too great. Yeah, the last

1080
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:05.280
<v Speaker 1>statement she gave were actually in twenty twenty. So yeah,

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00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:07.480
<v Speaker 1>though I believe there are some statements out there from

1082
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 1>her family on a Nissa being released. But I didn't

1083
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:12.039
<v Speaker 1>want to get too much onto that. If you want

1084
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:15.719
<v Speaker 1>to look it up, feel free totally. Uh so continue

1085
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:19.679
<v Speaker 1>to continue her absolute badassery. She went on to say,

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00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I've come to accept all my scars that I have.

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00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just a part of me. I don't think much

1088
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:28.280
<v Speaker 1>of them. They will probably go away and fade eventually.

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00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that. She'd probably

1090
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:32.880
<v Speaker 2>had some gnarly.

1091
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Scars going on it most likely.

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00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:38.519
<v Speaker 2>Wow, but that would just like really, I mean, you'd

1093
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:40.239
<v Speaker 2>have to do some work and stuff, but imagine like

1094
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:42.480
<v Speaker 2>looking at yourself or whatever and seeing all those and

1095
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.960
<v Speaker 2>like that you survived. Like just wow, I'm freaking amazing.

1096
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Like eventually you'd have to get to that point, because that's.

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00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Incredible, and I think Peyton is absolutely amazing. Yeah yeah,

1098
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:58.119
<v Speaker 1>so good on you, Peyton for being absolutely amazing. And

1099
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:01.880
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, that was one hell of a story to research.

1100
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:02.880
<v Speaker 2>That's wild.

1101
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I've heard of this story a few times before researching,

1102
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:07.400
<v Speaker 1>but getting into some of the psychology of it, I

1103
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:11.119
<v Speaker 1>had no idea of the schizophrenic tendencies of Morgan, nothing

1104
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:11.679
<v Speaker 1>like that.

1105
00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:14.440
<v Speaker 2>So I wonder how she's how she's doing though, Actually,

1106
00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:18.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, it'd be interesting to just see how she's doing.

1107
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine now that she's diagnosed medication medication, having

1108
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:27.679
<v Speaker 1>a psychiatrist with her working on it, she's probably doing

1109
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:28.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot better.

1110
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can imagine. I'm just curious how if the

1111
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:33.880
<v Speaker 2>remorse has come back, you know, or not back, but

1112
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:36.199
<v Speaker 2>if she now feels the remorse knowing what she did

1113
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:37.599
<v Speaker 2>in that state sort of thing.

1114
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:41.559
<v Speaker 1>I I would probably guess she does feel remorse for it. Yeah,

1115
00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:46.199
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, her intentions were to do good and

1116
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:48.159
<v Speaker 1>there was one thing. Oh, actually a couple of things

1117
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to talk about here that I didn't

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00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:54.239
<v Speaker 1>have a note. I guess Morgan, when doing the stabbing,

1119
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:59.480
<v Speaker 1>was whispering into Peyton's ear, I'm so sorry while she

1120
00:55:59.559 --> 00:55:59.920
<v Speaker 1>was doing it.

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00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, so.

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00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:05.000
<v Speaker 1>She clearly did not want to do it. She was

1123
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:08.960
<v Speaker 1>clearly doing it to preserve herself and her family. Yeah,

1124
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.400
<v Speaker 1>so had that good intention, good motive.

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00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:16.280
<v Speaker 2>And outside of her family, she didn't really have any

1126
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:19.320
<v Speaker 2>friends or loved ones. Yeah right, so had to almost

1127
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:19.840
<v Speaker 2>be Peyton.

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00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:24.599
<v Speaker 1>So now that she knows that there was nothing there

1129
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:26.800
<v Speaker 1>for her to know reasons for that to happen, I'm

1130
00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:28.679
<v Speaker 1>sure she's feeling remorse for what she did to her

1131
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:32.440
<v Speaker 1>best friend. Yeah, and then one other thing I wanted

1132
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:35.239
<v Speaker 1>to touch on actually after the incident, before Peyton returned

1133
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 1>to school, classmates and everyone had heard of this incident

1134
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:43.039
<v Speaker 1>clearly and knowing Peyton that she was a social butterfly.

1135
00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:46.320
<v Speaker 1>She have whiskers painted on her face or back of

1136
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:50.519
<v Speaker 1>her hand lots, she loved cats. Right, the school was

1137
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 1>going to on the day she returned, everyone was going

1138
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:54.320
<v Speaker 1>to paint whiskers on their face for her.

1139
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, are you serious.

1140
00:56:56.679 --> 00:57:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Which totally good intentions. However, the teachers quickly shut that

1141
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:05.159
<v Speaker 1>down rightfully, so after Morgan was saying, don't be afraid,

1142
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:06.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a little kitty cat.

1143
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so that could have honestly actually terrified her.

1144
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so your intentions were totally good, totally great idea. However, yes,

1145
00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the kids do not know what Morgan said and the

1146
00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:22.320
<v Speaker 1>implementation that could have on recovering.

1147
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, I see the intention, and I forgot about

1148
00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:28.880
<v Speaker 2>what she said because that would have been adorable. But yeah,

1149
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:29.440
<v Speaker 2>that's fair.

1150
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:33.679
<v Speaker 1>So that is the case of Peyton and the slender

1151
00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:35.039
<v Speaker 1>men stabbings.

1152
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Wild. That's wild.

1153
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:40.599
<v Speaker 1>So we're going to get in some creepy ass fucking

1154
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:44.599
<v Speaker 1>weird cases like this for the rest of October and

1155
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:46.559
<v Speaker 1>of course Halloween week hitting upset.

1156
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:48.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, that's going to be so fun.

1157
00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Makes you look us up on Patreon for Wicked and

1158
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Grim of course her Instagram and Wicked and Grim and

1159
00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Facebook is.

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00:57:57.400 --> 00:58:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know Wicked and Grim? Okay? Well, I was like,

1161
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:03.159
<v Speaker 2>is it something different because you're you looked at me

1162
00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:05.119
<v Speaker 2>like you almost didn't know, and I was like, supposed to.

1163
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Remember, Well, I was just trying to include you.

1164
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:09.360
<v Speaker 2>It's all Wicked and Grim. It's Wicked great, easy to find,

1165
00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:10.880
<v Speaker 2>easy peasy, and we're caught.

1166
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Up on messages now too.

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00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:14.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's good. That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>So we look forward to talking to you guys for

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00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the rest of October and of course all of Halloween

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00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>until next episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you got to deal with your voice, the

1172
00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:27.559
<v Speaker 2>voice you started, which I gotta remember what voice. It was,

1173
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:34.679
<v Speaker 2>spooky like stay Wicked? Was that it pretty close? I think? Okay,

1174
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:38.000
<v Speaker 2>not bad? Ten and ten out