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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best

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in paranormal talk radio in the UK and around the world.

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Scary Era Era is the Irish or Gaelic word for Ireland.

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Paranormal means all the things that are impossible to explain

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by non natural forces or by science, and Ireland is

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steep and lower ghosts, blood, sweat, tears, sacrifice, hunger, desperation

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and charm. Oh and the paranormal. Welcome to Scary Era,

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Mark Manning. Over the weeks we've heard from County's Meath,

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Galway and Kerry, and later it'll be County Cork's turn,

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as Matthew Clarke of the Cork Supernatural Society shall regale

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us with twelve years worth of paranormal investigations from the

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Rebel County. Now check out a YouTube channel called Paranormal Resident.

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Its creator, Kiiron Aggy is a very talented filmmaker and

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paranormal enthusiast in his own right. He's also somewhat of

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an Irish historian. Within Paranormal Residence playlists, you'll find a

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mini series called The American Medium. In its Kiron films

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his friend Rhonda at various Irish historic sites and documents,

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her psychic medium impressions of them. Ronda Hale as an

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Go to Ronda Hale dot com and find out about

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her thriving hypnotherapy and psychotherapy practice. You are about to

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hear part one of my chat with Ronda and part

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two as next week, when she'll be sharing her psychic

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medium findings on Lep Castle, the Aukron Battlefield, the Rock

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of Dunamass and Donegal Castle. I know what you're thinking,

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Help me, Randa, Help help me Randa, And she did.

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In fact, I've got a bit more help than I've

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bargained for. Listen on. I began by asking Rohnda, hell

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does she talk to dead people?

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Speaker 2: I talked to them more they talk to me? Yeah,

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they kind of well. I talked back and forth, asked

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them a lot of questions, kind of like you and

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I get to know each other talking now and having

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a conversation. That's more how it goes for me. They'll

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come through and just say hey, and they want to

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tell me their story. Otherwise, on a client base, which

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people I read for privately as a psychic medium. We'll

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reach out and they'll say I really want some information,

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and their love of them will come through. But I'll

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kind of put a beaker out and say, hey, anybody

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out there want to speak and help out with this

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person's query, And then someone will come through and we'll

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have a conversation.

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Speaker 1: And when was the first time somebody said hey to you, Ronda?

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Speaker 2: The first time I can remember was before I ever

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entered any kind of school at all, So I think

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and I noticed that these friendly people were always around me.

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and I thought everybody could see them. I didn't think

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it was anything different. But they would be kind of

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my little guardians and would say, oh, don't go around

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that person, they're not your friend, or stay over here

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by this person, or don't go over there, play over here.

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coax me and tell me things that other people wouldn't know.

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of the mouth of babes. I would say things when

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people would go, oh, she must have overheard us. Talking.

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I could hear the adults say or they'd say, oh,

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how strange, that's odd that she would say that. But

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telling me things. So I remember just as a child.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know you very well, but I

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associate with you and my own like lash intuition. The

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word that comes to me, and I'm not patronizing you,

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it's sunshine. I feel. I feel you're you're a sunny disposition.

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that nine nice people came your way. They were probably

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attracted to the sunny soul from the check.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much to say that. That's very kind.

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be happy than contrary. Everybody has days that are darker

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than others, but in general, it's it's a comfortable place

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dare I ask, has any nasty soul showed up?

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boundaries strong and firm. So when I am I remember

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one location I wish I could remember the name of

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the location we went, and it was the rock of something.

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teeth and they were cannibals. And the thing I think,

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an active invasion that they were partnering with Vikings at

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the time to do, and so I kind of it

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was almost like I was immediately set into this really

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really vicious thing that was getting ready. Yes, yes, yes, yeah,

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video and I never said it, but there was one

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of them that I knew, he knew I was there

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when I was there tapping into him, I could hear

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his thoughts of what he wanted to do and what

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his plan was, and just how very predator type of

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thought process of how he was vicious and just bloodthirsty

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sensed me through time. You know, time just isn't what

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we think it is. He glanced in my direction when

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I was taking it all in and I was almost enthrawled,

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if you will. He turned around and looked at me,

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almost like, oh, yeah, come a little closer. And that

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it went past it and I kind of shook it off.

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hill where it was really the invasion was really ensuing

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and there was just a massacre in process. At that point,

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what was going on there was just so intense. It's

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just like, well, I can go. But I've been around

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other situations where one of the one place where I

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actually was like whoo bowled over intensely was in the

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castle at Donegal where the lady of the house. Now,

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that was like just as real as me having this

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when she was replaying what had happened to her, it

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was like a rape scene somebody who was like very

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close to her husband, so she couldn't even say anything

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about it or it could end her own life. I

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literally felt on my hands where she she was pushing

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against the rocks like the granite wall. I felt my

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hands hurting. It was so intense. But you know, that's

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of here was there with the tribal type of.

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there which I picked up on. You said, time isn't

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what we think it is. No, can you elaborate on that, listen.

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have had the beautiful, wonderful experience of after I connect

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with the beautiful soul on the other side, whether it's

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after their grandmother lee, you know, after the session's over,

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always stay with me. And I interview them and ask

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them all the questions, and I ask them, what is

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going on with time? What is this thing? Are we

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seeing it right? Is it as we perceive it? And

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can be very much like on a loop. So you

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can if you miss one train, time to get jump

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on the on the subway. Basically five seven minutes later,

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another one's going to come and you can jump on,

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and you may not jump on at that same spot

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where you wanted to investigate, or you can go on

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and jump on and say, okay, take me to the

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one I missed before, and it can take you straight there.

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because it's all happening at one time, so you can

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reach through many layers. So like if I've gone to

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daughter because I had filmed that location with Kiran in

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this series, the American Medium series. Well, when we were there,

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that's great. My daughter Zoe says, hey, Mom, I want

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to go. I said, okay, let's let's get over that.

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and she's like, mom, this guy and I had I

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saw this man kind of walking and following her around

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like you turn on the History channel and it's basically

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living history. Right then, so she turned around. She goes, Mom,

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man's with me. And I knew immediately I was seeing

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he's a man in beautifartner. I think he's crushing on

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you a little bit there. She's like, well, she goes, well, yeah,

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and you can keep a piece of me with you.

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a little rock and dig the dirt away a little bit,

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's it, so help me.

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it's healthy to be skeptical. I am skeptical of like,

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I've never done this before, and they're basically give me

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a precursor saying I think you're full of crap here,

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and I don't really believe this, but I really uh

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so passed away, Yeah exactly, And they'll be like, you know,

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I don't really you know, I don't know what I'm

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gonna get.

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Speaker 1: Out of that spot.

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Speaker 2: My sister won't leave me alone in our mom passed

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and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And then inevitably,

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every single time we'll just start talking like you and

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I are talking. We've got to let people be comfortable.

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If you don't know me from anywhere, let's just let's

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just relax, get to know me, get to know my

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personality just slightly, be more comfortable, let the guard down

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a tiny bit, and then sure enough his mother will

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come through and she'll be like holding some bait good

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or some something that would be specific to her, and

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I'll say, well, there is a woman, and I'll and

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I'll describe exactly how I'm seeing her in the age.

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Because they can come through with any age show themselves,

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you know, and they'll be maybe fmocunus chain smoking, or

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they'll be holding one lady I was getting an eye

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appointment at an eye doctor's. I'm like, there is somebody here.

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She's hold on the plate of like Filipino eggrolls. She's like, oh,

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she lost it and started bawling at the doctor's office.

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And I was like, she goes, well, that's my mother.

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She passed away and she that's all she ever did

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was make that was her. She's super famous and her

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whole family everyone people bought them from her, her egg rolls.

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So this kind of thing will come through. And then

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right then, because spirit is loving, weir, it is kind,

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and they and they want you to say, hey, stop

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being a doubting Thomas. This is really happening. I'm really here.

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Here's proof, and they'll give you something that not just

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you can resonate with, but you can't even deny that

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that's that person, like how it I know? You know

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how what I know? And then from that point forward,

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then they're saying, okay, so listen to this crazy blonde

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lady and I'm trying to talk to you. When you

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just listen to her and stop being the ding dong,

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you know, And so basically that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: I think as well, what happens in that instant is

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you've got an instant convert, an instant believer as opposed

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to an instant skeptics. They're sold. You've sold them, you've

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closed them. Well, I know that's your intention. The medium.

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The thing is that person will be your biggest evangelist. Yes,

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Rand that we look, we've got more to talk about.

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So I want your feelings on this. Yesterday it was

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a great day for me because it was my daughter's birthday.

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But it comes to birthday. Yeah, she's a nice young

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lady now and she's out in the world and she's

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at college and what have you. It's kind of bittersweet

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because I lost my mother on the same It's really

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weird because my wife's birthday was my mother's birthday and

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my daughter's birthday is my mother's anniversary. So I popped

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over to the grave side yesterday where my late mother

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rests with the good colonel or husband of over fifteen years. Yeah,

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and I you know, I'm there and I know they're

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not there, if you know what I mean. The mortal remains,

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how do you feel about graveyards, etc.

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Speaker 2: Well, graveyards very rarely are people hanging out there. You know,

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they're not there most of the time. I mean, sometimes

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I'll go through a graver and I can tap into

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the energy of a person, or someone will show up

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and start talking. But they're a peaceful and RESTful place hopefully. Yeah,

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most of the time. I mean I've gone to definitely

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my share of graveyard's, quite a few. But once in

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a while someone will come and show up to tell

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their story that you know, there's nothing ominous for me anyway.

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I just don't see it that way as anything ominous

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at all, or it's sad. It's like they've crossed over there,

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and they've crossed over, they're already in the light, and

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if they aren't in the light there, they will when

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they're ready to go, you know. But once in a

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while I'll have somebody who is like, maybe hasn't crossed

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over yet, and maybe they were a bit nesarious and

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up to no good. One time I went to a

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graveyard and it was a pirate guy. I mean, it

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sounds silly to say that, but he really was. I mean,

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he steal and plunder and go to different ports, and

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he was just.

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Speaker 1: Not a good good guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, he was like a Jack Barrow for sure,

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but he was like a likeable he was very Jack

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Sparrows kind of likable kind of guy. But even him,

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even when I went there with him, he hadn't crossed

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into the light, and I asked him why, and he

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said because he didn't feel that, given the lives he'd

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taken in the way he'd taken them, that he just

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didn't feel that that was what he should be doing.

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He should He didn't. I don't think he felt like

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he should have crossed, should cross it. We didn't feel

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like he was worthy of crossing a break. I tried

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to talk him in reason with him and just say, listen,

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we all make bad choices, and some are more devastating

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to the world than others. Of the choices that we

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make hurt more or less people, but those are lessons

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we learned. And then we cross over, go into the light,

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and we have a chance to make it right and

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do it over again better the next time. And so

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he said, well, I'll give it a think.

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Speaker 1: Basically, he just wasn't really was wasn't convinced. And what

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about the Paris was it on his shoulder at all?

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I'm a bee facetious.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see any Paris.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been drawn to places?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Goodness, that's why I live in Ireland.

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Speaker 1: Oh really? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's why I'm here. My dad who passed

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away when I was sixteen years old, Jack Hale, He

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and I are very very close. Even though he's passed away.

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I see and talk to him every single day. He

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is the one who said I needed to leave and

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get my European citizenship all lined up with passports, et cetera,

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and move And I said where and he said, well,

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anywhere in Europe will be fine, but I would like

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to see you in Ireland. So that's why I'm here.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I followed his guide and that is exactly why

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I'm in Ireland.

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Speaker 1: I would like to know the difference, as Rhonda Hale

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sees it, between and a psychic and a medium. Is

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there a difference?

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Speaker 2: Huh? Yeah? I am a psychic medium. The difference between

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a psych and a medium is a psychic will have

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very strong premonition and intuition. They will get glimpses of

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a future, past, present, et cetera, and be able to

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connect on that level where a medium actually can see

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and converse with the dead. So a medium is somebody

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who can connect, talk to and speak to the dead. Now,

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not all mediums can, they know they can. Some mediums

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can only hear audibly the conversation, and other people like

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me can hear and see, so I could describe the person,

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their hair color, what they're wearing, how tall they are.

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So with me, I've got all of it. It's all

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at once. But I am a psychic medium, and that

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would be the difference between a psychic and a medium

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or a psychic medium.

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Speaker 1: Well, now we're in line, and I'm glad you've done that. Okay,

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so you're going to hear something now, all right? How

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does that? You know? What's that thing they called APR? Anyway,

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that's what yet. Anyway, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

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watch you on the spot and ask you to tell

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me what that is. But it's age, by the way,

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it's a packet of sage. I'll tell you why I'm

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going to use it. I know it's cool in the gang.

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When I I've stopped doing them, right, But occasionally I

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would do pieces to camera on my own Markmanningmedia dot

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Com anyway channel. I've noticed on camera a couple of times.

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I'll get I don't I don't want to call it

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the ORB. But the odd time, and it was weird

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because the last time it happened I kind of mentioned

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something about the paranormal. Now it was just I think

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that was just a fluke. But straight away I can

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see see I can see the monitor when I'm on camera,

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this thing comes behind me and I froze frame it there.

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It's not like but this thing looks like you're kind

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of classic ORB and it comes down maybe once or twice,

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not every time I appeared on camera, but it happens,

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and I'm conscious of it. I see it come down now.

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I frozen the other day and I went, that's not dust.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's like a litter. Do you know what it's like?

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Prawn cracker transparent?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's exactly. That's a wonderful description. Well,

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I think many people do refer to those mark as orbs.

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I haven't done lives in a while, but I'm actually

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compelled to start doing them again because I keep getting

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people email me and I'll do live readings and I

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do pree channeling, free readings and all that, and inevitably

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during my lives that's exactly what will happen on film.

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And you can see them in the recordings after I

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post them that there's the little prawn crackers floating around you. No,

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you're right, of all shapes and sizes, that is definitely spirit.

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That is spirit, that's energy floating around you. Know you

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mentioned stage. I want to just get this opportunity to

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let you kind of know the thing that I've learned

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about stage through Spirit and them talking to me and

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tell me to mind yourself when you're using stage, because stage,

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a lot of people use it to clear the space

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and clear energy and they've had some weird stuff in

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the house and they want to clear it out and

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they use the feather and they'll maybe have a shell

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of abalony or something and go and just do that

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and do the smudging sort of thing. I would never

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ever ever use stage for that. I don't use sage.

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I don't have it in my house. I would never

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ever voluntary use it ever. I will use rosewood or

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pala sancho. That's the only thing I would ever use

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for clearing space because what stage will do is stage

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is an invitation to a lower frequency. So if you

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clear a space with stage, it's not clearing, your inviting

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and it would maybe bring in not necessarily nesarious or

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anybody to be afraid of, but it definitely could. But

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it's going to bring in. You mentioned that only nice

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people come to me. Well that's not always the case.

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But I will say that if you sage, you're going

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to have maybe more depressive energies come in who want

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to connect and say, hear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the sound of me throwing the sage in

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the bin.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear it. That's a happy sad Don't

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don't throw it in the fireplace, don't destroy it by fire.

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But yeah, just go on Amazon and buy yourself some

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Palo Santle and you'll find that or Rosewood. But you'll

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find that the clearing of the space, or the clearing

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or what you do before you you know, do your

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recordings in your video, whatever you're going to find the

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energy is completely different, and the energies that do come

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through are very different. Or like I've connected, I like read.

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I read for people all the time, and most of

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the time if I'm not doing like a energy fair

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or an angel fair or something which I do throughout

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the whole year. If I'm not doing that, I'll do

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it over phone call appointment or a video call appointment, right,

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and I will always light a bit of pala sancho

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and get it going. And then sometimes someone will want

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to connect with a loved one, maybe who committed suicide

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or suffer from depression, or or if we're in the

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reading and then someone comes through, maybe who was abusive

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to them or something. The energy of that spirit who

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comes through is much easier to deal with, much easier

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to talk to. They're not as oppressive. Any malicious nature

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that they might have had in the living is tempered

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and then approachable. Do you see what I mean? So

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with the stage though, it's entirely different, so it will

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come in full form.

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Speaker 1: I kept going to rationalize it as well. I kept going,

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it's dust under a certain light. The camera is what

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kind of anomenaly is it? You know? Right? So you

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think it could be spirits? How do I know what

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it is?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, spirit? Definitely, it's supernatural. And you know how

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you can stant mark if you have someone like you said,

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your mom's past and she just literally had her anniversary

471
00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:10,400
right her being such a loving, sweet lady that she was.

472
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,240
I want to ask you to try this. Turn you

473
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,319
your camera on and don't have any other lights. Just

474
00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:21,279
just be in the dark and don't face it to yourself.

475
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,880
Just face it to the wall so everything looks black, okay,

476
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,759
completely black. And then I want you to turn the

477
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:31,599
flash on so then you can see the wall shadow

478
00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:33,079
of the wall, but you still in a dark room

479
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,759
with a flash on and it's not on your face.

480
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,039
And I want you to just sit there and think

481
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:40,079
of your mother, you know, think of all the happiness

482
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,319
and joy she gave you, and say, I'm glad you're

483
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:44,119
here with me. Mom, Come hang out with me here

484
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,880
in my little cubicle that I made here. And I

485
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,920
want to test this whole ORB thing. Can you answer

486
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,000
me some questions? If it's spirit, can you show me

487
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:53,920
an orb right now?

488
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,039
Speaker 1: And she will Wow, I'm going to Ronda.

489
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, do that. Yeah. Because a person is by themselves

490
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:04,119
and they can't get a hold of somebody like me

491
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,319
or someone else who can actually connect, and they want

492
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,240
to connect with their love, and they get some answers

493
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:11,119
like hey, is this a good idea or is this

494
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,119
a bad idea, help me out. I need to talk

495
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,680
to you dad, I need to talk to you mom,

496
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:18,400
or sister or whoever. What I do is sometimes just

497
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,920
because it's a wonderful way to communicate the spirit. Lie

498
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,400
down in bed, have all everything out, the lights out completely,

499
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,240
face your camera to the ceiling, put the flash on

500
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,920
and start. You can talk in your mind, you know,

501
00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:33,400
and you can talk out loud. It doesn't really matter.

502
00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:35,880
They're going to hear you either way. And ask them

503
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,160
a question. Can you please show me yourself, show me

504
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,400
give me a sign that you're here with me immediately.

505
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:45,119
The pattern that I always see is you'll see them

506
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:50,119
almost ricochet back and forth. I'll kind of go very playful,

507
00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:50,799
very loudly.

508
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,559
Speaker 1: I hope everybody else has taken the notes that I'm taking.

509
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:55,279
And I don't mean that in a facetious way. I'm

510
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:58,920
listening to you, if I'm honest with you, I'm thinking

511
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,039
to myself. I'm trying again to make sense of it,

512
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,920
and I think there's a reason for it. Right. I

513
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,000
find it very easy to talk like in my head,

514
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:12,720
if you like, to my late father and kind of

515
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:19,119
have this feeling rather than my mother. And for that reason,

516
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:24,519
I feel guilty at times because my mother thought the

517
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:29,119
son shone out of me right and vice versa. However,

518
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:32,759
and it's not a mummies boy thing. The prelude to

519
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,880
it all was my mother had an eight year battle

520
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,680
which I would not wish on anybody with Alzheimer's, and

521
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,160
I found it very difficult to come to terms, especially initially,

522
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:47,079
with what had happened to her. There was a few

523
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,039
warning signs with the memory and stuff. When somebody announced

524
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,039
that she had that condition, some part of me shut down,

525
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,079
I think for a while, anyway, until you have to

526
00:27:57,079 --> 00:27:58,640
get on with it as best you can.

527
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 2: Me.

528
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: I suppose she'd kind of gone before she went, do

529
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:07,400
you know that way? And so therefore I kind of go, well,

530
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,359
it's not as recent. Again, when I'm trying to rationalize things,

531
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,599
it's not as recent as my dad's passing. He passed

532
00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:16,920
on about three years after her, So I mean now

533
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:22,160
once or twice almost in visitation. But she visited me

534
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:26,440
in dreams. She looks younger. And now I'm talking a

535
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:30,359
flash of intensity. It's not a long dream. It's a

536
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,279
quick vision. It's like it's like a quick hello. But

537
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:42,680
somebody in the most blindingly beautiful spiritual. Yet now I'm

538
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,839
getting emotional Randa, Yeah, putting it on for radio.

539
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,319
Speaker 2: No, I know you're not. She's here right now. Actually,

540
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,400
she's here right now.

541
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:55,559
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm And it goes so quick, you know.

542
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,200
But do you know what it is though? What I

543
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,839
get from it is he's really happy wherever she is.

544
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:04,759
Very understand she's really happy.

545
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:05,039
Speaker 3: You know.

546
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: I would wish that for everybody.

547
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: You know, what I want to tell you that I've

548
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,759
learned through my wonderful visits and conversations is that Alzheimer's

549
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,359
is if you want to take it on as these

550
00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:22,839
are superhuman people who end up and I'm not saying

551
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:24,960
I'm not going to say suffer from Alzheimer's. I'm going

552
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,000
to say they take on the mission of Alzheimer's, because

553
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,759
what ends up happening is when someone has the condition

554
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:36,240
of Alzheimer's, what they're doing is they're having a foot

555
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,039
in both planes, on the human plane and on the

556
00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:41,640
spirit plane, and they go in and out of their

557
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,839
body because they are doing work. They're doing work when

558
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,680
people cross over a lot of times they cross over

559
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,519
because they know that their loved ones here need them

560
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,960
to intercede for them much more than they could in

561
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:55,680
human form, so they cross over so they can intercede

562
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,519
it to help them and to make things better. When

563
00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:02,920
people take on the mission I guess if you will,

564
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:08,359
of Alzheimer's or any of the variations of that. They're

565
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,000
presently needed here because some people don't want to let

566
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,240
them go. Right. And then when they're not lucid to

567
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:19,000
our human standards, if they're not listening, they're they're doing well,

568
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,480
they're doing work, they're doing some heavy lifting for people

569
00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:25,839
that need them here, that are alive. Now, I don't

570
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,000
know if I'm not trying to turn this into a reading,

571
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,680
but did you have a little brother or somebody that died?

572
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:36,400
She's showing me a son, like you have a brother

573
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,400
that passed away that was young, very little?

574
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:42,039
Speaker 1: Do you know when we had this conversation a moment ago,

575
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:45,640
and I said, like skeptic to convert because right, so

576
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,759
I want the listener to know they are listening to

577
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,880
one of these moments. All right, you're close, You're very close.

578
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: Because I was about, there's a little boy with her

579
00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:00,480
right now. She has a little boy with her and

580
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:04,000
she's she's holding him close to her, and she said,

581
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,400
he's with me. Don't you worry? Is what she said.

582
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: Okay, well you're warm, you're let's elaborate, right, Well are

583
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:12,599
you good?

584
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,039
Speaker 2: Well I didn't know anything.

585
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,519
Speaker 1: No, you're not.

586
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: I don't have a choice because she showed up and

587
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,319
she said, listen, I want him to know. I've got

588
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:23,440
this little boy with Yeah.

589
00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:25,559
Speaker 1: Well I can well to her. It would be her

590
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:28,039
little boy. Right, So let me just explain, because I

591
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:30,720
was you'd actually hit me on two fronts there, right.

592
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,960
The second one is what we're just talking about. The

593
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,599
first one is you know, you said that's the mission

594
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,680
if you like, of Alzheimer's. It was almost like a

595
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,480
foot in two camps. Okay, yeah, So again, I want

596
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,599
the listener to know everything I'm telling you now as

597
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:50,079
you're hearing it is authentic. You can scoff if you

598
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:53,160
want and say it's coincidental. But here is Mark Manning,

599
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,960
age sixty one years of age, talking to the lovely

600
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,359
Rohnda Hale. Okay, and who's a psychic medium. I want

601
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,480
you to I want you to know this first, the

602
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:07,480
foot in both camps. My brother was fifty four. I

603
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,599
think when he passed of it was the only good

604
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,279
thing that came out of this sounds ironic, but I

605
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,799
don't mean it to be to sound cruel. But it

606
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,519
was the only good thing that came out of mum's condition.

607
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,839
Is for the most part, she wasn't aware that, I

608
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,640
suppose you could call it. Her little boy was in

609
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,880
the horrendous position of having cancer. And so he was

610
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,519
a young man with children of his own, and he

611
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,039
was he would be dying, and he would still drive

612
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:40,440
up to see his parents as best he could now

613
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,640
during her care at that time, which was two thousand

614
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,119
and nine. She passed in two thousand and eleven. Jerry

615
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,160
was passing away, the Filipino and she was a lovely

616
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,079
lady carer.

617
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, a lot of love there. Yeah.

618
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,079
Speaker 1: Said to one of the members of the family, she said,

619
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:02,039
you know your mother sat here today and she said

620
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,960
she she's talking to Jerry, which is my brother, her son,

621
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,519
her little her little boy. Yes, And she said to me,

622
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,240
she said to Jerry, will you stay And Jerry said

623
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,079
to her, no, Mum, I have to go somewhere. Yeah,

624
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,519
And he was passing. If he hadn't already passed, he

625
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:28,799
was on his way out, as they say, right, So

626
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,640
I won't say all dramatic stuff like I'm flummoxt and

627
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,880
all that. But I could give you, I could give

628
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,960
you a hug Rhonda for saying thank you.

629
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,279
Speaker 2: I'm you know what, I'm very thankful that I was

630
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:48,440
able to give you that information. It's it's purely something

631
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,440
your mother wanted you to have. She wanted you to

632
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,440
have something tangible, she said, so to know that she

633
00:33:57,599 --> 00:33:59,839
really does hear you when you talk to her. And

634
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:04,160
she's also telling me something else that when you want

635
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,559
to speak audibly to her, she said, that's because we're

636
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:12,360
closer and you are holding on to the human aspect

637
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:16,760
of that relationship that you had and that love. You know. Now,

638
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,400
your dad, that's a character. Oh my god, your dad

639
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,760
is a character. Okay, Yeah, he's a character. He comes through,

640
00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:29,639
he's a kick in the pants. He's hilarious, he's funny,

641
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,000
and he's a character. He's stubborn and hilarious and funny.

642
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:39,880
And he would come out with yeah, stubborn, stubborn and

643
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:42,320
he but but like I can almost see him. He's

644
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,360
got it. He's standing with his arms in a fold

645
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,880
right across his chest and then but he's got a

646
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,440
very quirky little smirky grin on his face, like he's

647
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:57,280
just he is, he's he's a rock of Gibraltar. But

648
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,519
he's got a funny bone and I'll tell you that.

649
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:04,000
But he he's easier for you to communicate telepathically in

650
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:08,360
your mind, just because of your experience and the type

651
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,320
of personality that he was. It's not that he was unapproachable,

652
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,920
but at times he made it difficult to approach when

653
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,840
you were growing up. But that's just kind of just

654
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,239
his whole demeanor of who he is. But he has

655
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,000
such a warm, big heart, you know, it's just you

656
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:25,079
got to chip away to get to it sometimes.

657
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,679
Speaker 1: N I don't mean to interrupt you, but can I

658
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,559
just say he grew up largely without a father his own.

659
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,239
His father made it through the trenches of the First

660
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,880
World War only to die of Ptcitus in the nineteen

661
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,920
thirty year. So he was if he wasn't even a boy,

662
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,480
he might have been a child, I think when his

663
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:48,199
father passed. Yeah, so there was that kind of thing,

664
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,719
which was now there's a military thing there as well,

665
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,639
but also a generational thing. You know, men had.

666
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: Difficult yes, men, yes, not showing.

667
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,119
Speaker 1: Emotion that said towards the end, you know, and the good.

668
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,719
Maybe the last twenty years or so, I became very

669
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,400
very close to my dad, and I am and not

670
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,719
everyone is, but I'm a hugger and a grabber, you know.

671
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,400
And I made sure you know that he was hogged

672
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:19,840
and told, he told he was loved before you know,

673
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:22,239
he went to do the thing. But I'm sorry I

674
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,599
interrupted you getting anything else that.

675
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: Oh you're fine, No, no, you're fine. That's kind of

676
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,320
what I wanted to tell you, is that you know,

677
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,679
you were mentioning before that communicating to him telepathically was

678
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,280
easier and you didn't find that that came as natural.

679
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,000
When you're connecting with your mom, you want to verbally

680
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:44,199
connect with her. She was just explaining to me that

681
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:49,039
that's why, because of the complexities of how you connected

682
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:50,960
with him in life, and that's just how it is.

683
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:53,719
It doesn't mean it's wrong or weaker or different or

684
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,159
not as strong or whatever because and then her coming

685
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,480
through in your dreams, she said, Oh, you have to

686
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,400
do is ask me if you want me to stay

687
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,119
with you longer. I will, and she'll come and stay

688
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:05,800
with you longer.

689
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:08,199
Speaker 1: Wow. I will be asking my mom then to stay

690
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,079
a bit longer. We'll have a little chatter. We'll do

691
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:13,000
that camera trick thing as well. Ronda, can I just

692
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:15,840
say thank you for that. I know you didn't intend

693
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,159
to wander down the road of a reading, but your

694
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:21,199
accuracy is just mind blowing. I'm going to stay no more.

695
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,320
I'm going to have to really think think about it.

696
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,280
So we leave it there, and part two from Ronda

697
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,559
will be in the next episode, and I'll just say,

698
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,679
when I did think about it later, Ronda was actually

699
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:36,639
more accurate than I thought. But that's personal. Mark Manning.

700
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,719
Early last December, Matthew Clark of the Cork Supernatural Society

701
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,599
returned from his holiday in Portugal, and it was an

702
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:48,480
ideal time to catch up with him. Sell us Cork.

703
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: It's a wonderful couty in terms of We've got so

704
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,360
much history, don't it, Cork, from the city to Westcok

705
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,519
down the bottom. You could be joven for two hours

706
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:00,000
and you know it's just castle left, the cast left

707
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:03,440
the castle or abbey. And for someone like for someone

708
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,079
I suppose for this hobby, so much history here and

709
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,320
just just a fantastic place. I've lived out my whole

710
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,480
life and I'm happy that I've grew up in Cork.

711
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:14,360
It's been great for my hobbies which have developed over

712
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:14,800
the years.

713
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,639
Speaker 1: You're a proud Corconian. Yeah, you don't mess with the Corconians.

714
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,559
Of course, Michael gans himself with the.

715
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,519
Speaker 3: Cork Man he was, and we actually investigated a place

716
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:27,639
where he stayed the night before he got assassinated there.

717
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,480
So yeah, there's Guyrish history when you really look into

718
00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:33,400
it as quite boutlan in terms of the castles, and

719
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,280
then when you move into more modern how it's like

720
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,239
you've got the asylums and medal and laundries places like that.

721
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:40,719
But that a magical sight to us with all these

722
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,119
ruined castles around.

723
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: You know, when did you first get interested in the paranormal?

724
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,639
Speaker 3: It would have been when I was about seven, oh

725
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,039
so twenty seven, not twenty come up. Twenty years ago.

726
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,119
Me and my sister were. There's a place locally to

727
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:57,280
where we lived called the Nano Nagle Cemetery and it's

728
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,280
a convent. At the time, it was still in use

729
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,079
as a convent and you could walk around the cemetery,

730
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:05,000
which we did. We were in there one summer's day

731
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,280
and we had been in there but an hour or so,

732
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,599
and just as we were leaving, we were kind of

733
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,320
going towards the convent building and we could see smoke

734
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,440
in one of the windows, and we kind of went

735
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:17,679
over to have a look at that investigated. We would

736
00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:20,239
have for two or three minutes. Smoke kind of developed

737
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,920
into a human shape. I'll never forget to see in

738
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,159
the figure, the arms particularly just so clear developed into

739
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:29,199
a human shape. And then I remember there was an

740
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:32,000
older couple who were in their cemeteries and they thought

741
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:35,360
as well. So from that moment and I was fascinated

742
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,719
with the parent ormal and we used to walk every

743
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,519
day for years. We used to go in there, but

744
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:41,519
never saw anything like that again. But that's kind of

745
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:42,239
how it started.

746
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:47,559
Speaker 1: You have an open mind from then on Cork supernatural Society.

747
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:49,920
Did you set that up or was it already in existence?

748
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,519
Speaker 3: I said it up. I would started really from that

749
00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:54,840
moment I started getting I would say I got more.

750
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,400
You would think it would be just a parent ormal,

751
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,000
but actually got more interested in history and abandoned building.

752
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,119
I started exploring them when I was quite young and

753
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:05,519
my family were interested in mess I suppose from a

754
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:07,559
safety point of view, I was very lucky that way

755
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:09,880
that my mother was interested in us. She wanted to

756
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,960
go with me, you know, so I wasn't exploring these

757
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,599
places by myself, and it just started. We had one

758
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:19,320
or two experiences when doing just exploring abandoned buildings John today,

759
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,360
I remember being in a place called Saint Kevin's Asylum,

760
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,599
which is here in Cork City.

761
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: Was there a fire recently?

762
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,119
Speaker 3: There was a few years ago. It was basically got it.

763
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,519
It's just a kind of shell of it now, but yeah,

764
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:32,960
we went there one day and we had a dog fleming.

765
00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:35,679
Kind of paranormal stuff kept popping up, and I'd had

766
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:38,280
that experience. My mum had had her own experiences. So

767
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,360
we actually set it up as a family group. So

768
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:42,519
that would have been two thirteen. We set it up

769
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:44,760
there and it just started kind of a small time thing,

770
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,559
just a few of us in the family and one

771
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:49,000
or two friends that had developed into bringing in as

772
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,199
a people as it went on, and we now have

773
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,559
a group of tents. There is an interesting way we started.

774
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:56,119
I'm the only person from my family that's still involved.

775
00:40:56,159 --> 00:40:59,519
But we've had Kim Paul, We've known them you know,

776
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,480
for close on ten years now, so and you know,

777
00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:06,559
it is I suppose going fil and doing intimidating places

778
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:08,719
together for years and in so you do go very

779
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,280
close and we usually keep it to relatively small numbers,

780
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,920
so you do get to know them and they do

781
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:14,039
become just like family.

782
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: What was your first location?

783
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: It was a local place called Ballincolic Castle, so there

784
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,440
was a legend of a man had been seen there

785
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:25,840
over the years, and that's how we started. Didn't get anything,

786
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,119
to be honest, but that was the nice way I

787
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,480
kind of got the bog, I suppose.

788
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: And did you ever go back?

789
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those places I always wanted to

790
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,639
get something there, Like we went back there last year

791
00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:37,920
for the tenure anniversary. We always go back there, but

792
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,719
to be honest, we haven't come across anything.

793
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was the first time. What was the

794
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,320
history of Ballincolic Castle? Do you know?

795
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: There's only the keep that its remain in there, but

796
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,559
it's got the full on curtain wall, which is kind

797
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:53,159
of unusual to see. There's not too many annoyland like

798
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:56,079
that to have it fully in test, particularly for a ruin.

799
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,519
So it was the ghostory that drew us there. I

800
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:01,559
know the castle was used as a prison at one point,

801
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,840
so on the grown floor, so that kind of drew

802
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,000
was there. We just picked this because it was local

803
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:08,280
and we knew how to get there. That's how we

804
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,760
started with that place. Look at it. It's the thirteenth

805
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,159
century castle and been a while now since I read

806
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:15,199
up on us. Before my memory, they believed there was

807
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,880
a kind of an earlier settlement there, going back to

808
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:20,599
the tenth or eleventh century, before the castle that we

809
00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:21,119
see today.

810
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: With them, did you go at night or during the day.

811
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: First time we went on the day just to kind

812
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,360
of have a look at the place and get familiar

813
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,000
with it. But we do all our investigations John the Knight,

814
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:32,360
So when we went back for the first pop investigation

815
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:32,679
it was a.

816
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: Nighttime was so it was a lovely place. But it's

817
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,760
been a washout in terms of activity.

818
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that has been.

819
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: No EVPs are anything.

820
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:43,039
Speaker 3: Literally nothing, and we've been there fou with an engineer

821
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,599
over nothing. Yeah. We do find that you can go

822
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:48,400
to a place as another castle not too far from

823
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,599
there called Kilcray Castle as an abby there as well. Bush.

824
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,840
We must have went there over the years eight or

825
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,800
nine times and never got anything, and only recently we

826
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,199
got our first EVP there. Some places just take a

827
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,719
lot of time and a lot of efforts to get something.

828
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,679
I don't particularly find castles they're active, and I think

829
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:07,679
it may be due to how old they are. I

830
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,400
do wonder dos energy paranormal energy kind of burnout over

831
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,480
the years, because for all the places we've found most

832
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:17,920
active would be the more recent places as in asylum,

833
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:21,079
the medal in lundries, places like that that only closed

834
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:23,599
down within the last ten, fifteen, twenty years. You know,

835
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,639
they would be typically the buildings we find more active

836
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,000
rather than ancient castle.

837
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:30,519
Speaker 1: Many investigations do you average a year.

838
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: We were kind of aim to do a big one

839
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,079
every month there, but we do kind of We'll go

840
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:39,039
to ruins and asylum, depending buildings. I would say, like

841
00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:40,760
this year we've done thirty five.

842
00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:41,519
Speaker 1: Wow.

843
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll get one more in now before the

844
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:45,199
end of the year. And you know, some of them

845
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,840
they're not all like all full light ones. Some of

846
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,360
them will be two three hours local place and then

847
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,719
we'll get in our major ones alongside that. You know,

848
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,440
both with island, there are so many castles and even

849
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,719
if they don't have a paranormal history, I just love

850
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,719
going to them. We're just try and take off each one.

851
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,440
We go along and see do we find anything, and

852
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:05,559
if we do find something, then you know we found one.

853
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:07,559
And we go back there regularly and.

854
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: You document all your findings on your Facebook page and Instagram. Yeah,

855
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:11,719
we do.

856
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,119
Speaker 3: And we're gonna always asked about YouTube, so we're gonna push,

857
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:17,280
We're gonna put a bit more foot into youtubeer and

858
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,360
two twenty five, now that would be the kind of

859
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:19,719
new go.

860
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,119
Speaker 1: Well, it's the way to go. It's the second biggest

861
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:24,840
search engine in the world, you know, Matthew, Yeah it is.

862
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,599
Speaker 3: And you know, there's never really been a goal of

863
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:29,159
flicks being on TV or anything like that. It's just

864
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,840
I see the Facebook pages anmost like a diary that

865
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:32,960
I just share.

866
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so i'd say in two twenty five, you're open

867
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,960
for new members too. Yeah.

868
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 2: You're always looking, Yeah, always looking.

869
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: And we do a lot of public events, so we meet.

870
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:43,800
We often meet people on those events that turn into

871
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,079
members as they go on. Two years, you know, and do.

872
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:50,079
Speaker 1: You tune up with the equipment and if so, what yeah, type.

873
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 3: And we basically have all types of night vision cameras,

874
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,480
CCTV system, different audio equipment, and then you'd have the

875
00:44:57,519 --> 00:45:00,880
typical motion camerak K two meters, all your kind of

876
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,960
standard power ormal equipment. For me, it's all about their

877
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:06,519
audio and video cameras are the best.

878
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: YouTube Buddy Jenny Sullivan in Emerald Dial Paranormal. She's big

879
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,719
into her EVPs, isn't she.

880
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 3: For me, that probably would be the most common way

881
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,719
that we get stuff would be true audio. Like I said,

882
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,800
we've done thirty five investigations this year, and we probably

883
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,519
have maybe three or four good pieces of.

884
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: Audio, you know, but your treasure them, you do.

885
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: And you know I always remember getting my first one,

886
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,519
and each one you actually do remember each place, each one,

887
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:34,000
so yeah, you do treasure them.

888
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: What's the most shocking one.

889
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,119
Speaker 3: We were in a pub in Cork City that we've

890
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:41,679
been called in to investigate called the Poor Relations, and

891
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:43,360
it was just three of us in the room, and

892
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,960
I had asked them how many spirits are present? When

893
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,679
we play back the audio. There's the Claire with the

894
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:52,280
response that really is an incredible piece of audio, saying

895
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:56,400
just me, this is like crystal clear, and it's actually funny.

896
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,599
You know you do this so often. I was planning

897
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:00,760
my next questions in my head when I played back

898
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,920
to the audio, and it was so clear. The two

899
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,480
lads with me just both kind of said they both

900
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:07,880
just went and they don't serve at me, and I

901
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,119
was so distressing things about my next questions. I didn't

902
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:12,320
even take no orders to this, but it is incredibly,

903
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,320
incredibly clear.

904
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: Did you ever visit any of the plague pits, salmine pits,

905
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,800
you know where the kind of mass burials happened.

906
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,599
Speaker 3: This one in court called cars Hill. We've been out

907
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:26,039
there once or twice. Those kind of places are kind

908
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:29,360
of toss to investigate because they're outdoors. The one that

909
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,159
we were in cars Hill was just literally across in

910
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,639
a field that marks the spot, but there's a busy

911
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,559
road next to us. That's kind of it was a

912
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:40,559
hard one to actually investigation and take seriously intent of audio.

913
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,760
You had constant sound of cars going past. Yeah, you know,

914
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,360
it's hard to say because when you've got so much

915
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,039
noise in the background, that kind of just makes a

916
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:51,880
pointments and that you see in as you physically see something,

917
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,519
But that's extremely unlikely.

918
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to share some locations with you Stan's Cathedral,

919
00:46:58,159 --> 00:46:58,679
ard More.

920
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:01,679
Speaker 3: That was one. We were actually going to a large

921
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,559
house up the road from that called do our Duke

922
00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:07,400
Castle or odd more houses known as and we were

923
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,039
just killing time and we came across Sat Declin and

924
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:12,559
we went in there. We only in there about an hour,

925
00:47:12,679 --> 00:47:14,639
so we went on to the as a location. But

926
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,599
that's one of the places that we're looking to go

927
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:19,039
back to in the start of the year. I'll hopefully

928
00:47:19,039 --> 00:47:20,239
have more news from there.

929
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: So it looked it looked very impressive.

930
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 3: You know, it's done, and I didn't expect writing the

931
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:29,000
Center of art More to come across something like that.

932
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,639
Just an incredible place which goes back all the way

933
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:32,559
to the fifth century.

934
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:35,079
Speaker 1: I believe it's all documented on your Facebook page.

935
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: Isn't it all documented?

936
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? Timer League Abbey, yes and pronounce are correctly.

937
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I have a thing here a note mystery

938
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:45,960
man that was that was probably one of that was

939
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:49,719
quite an early investigation about twenty fourteen, so maybe about

940
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,039
a year after we'd set up. Timer League is one

941
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,440
of those places that i'd heard about. There was a

942
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,920
couple of core groups before and they had told me

943
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,360
that they had got some EVPs there. So we went

944
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,800
to Timi League. Now on the night it was all quiet.

945
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,519
We didn't come across anything. But it was the following

946
00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:06,800
day when I was reviewing pictures. I was just going

947
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,840
through the pictures I took the night before, and in

948
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,880
one of them there's a clear figure of a man

949
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,119
just standing the close to a grave, and we were

950
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:18,079
all walking towards where this man was. None of us

951
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:20,719
saw anything, none of the cam was picked up anything.

952
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,960
It was just on this one photo you can see

953
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:25,000
the men. And now it's not one of those photos

954
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,880
where you've gott to draw a line around it to

955
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,920
show people where it is. This is a crystal clare outline. Yeah,

956
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,360
and you can actually see if you look at his legs,

957
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,880
you can actually see the graves behind him. You can

958
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:36,880
actually see through him.

959
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,079
Speaker 1: You know.

960
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,519
Speaker 3: That was an incredible I just couldn't believe it. I

961
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:42,599
remember at first, I just assumed there was someone had

962
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:45,000
got into the abbey that we didn't realize. And I

963
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,280
went around looking at all we had motion can we

964
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,920
set up on every entrance and nothing was picked up.

965
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,719
And then I had a kind of zoomed in on

966
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,440
it and had a proper look at it, and you

967
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,199
can actually see the graves at the bottom of the

968
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:57,239
grave through his legs, so that would be probably one

969
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,239
of the most incredible the sco.

970
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: For we've got well done. You must have been delighted

971
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,119
with yourself when Yeah.

972
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: And it was one of those we haven't been doing

973
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,360
it that long, so I kind of thought Jesus, I

974
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,679
didn't take a flag. Ever, what else will we find?

975
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,400
But we probably never caught something like that again.

976
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: You know, wh where's Timiley Gabby exactly?

977
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 3: It's West Cork be downed the bottom of West Coalk

978
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,000
in the village of Timately, but we've never caught him again.

979
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:25,280
But it was just fascinating and it was huge force

980
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,159
because we posted on Facebook. We only had a few

981
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:31,760
followers at that point, but it really like the followers

982
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:32,039
from that.

983
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, Matthew. The first phone call we ever got the

984
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,360
Scary Era was from a guy in Skull in County

985
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:41,280
County Cork. He was saying there was an awful lot

986
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,000
of activity in I'm not sure which which asylum in Cork,

987
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:49,039
but I think there had been building nearby or on

988
00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:53,119
an original site and the residents were reporting all kinds

989
00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:57,400
of stuff. What has been your experience of those former institutions?

990
00:49:57,559 --> 00:50:00,559
Speaker 3: So the Cork Asylum that would be, that's the place

991
00:50:00,679 --> 00:50:03,360
that really started it for me as there are so

992
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,920
there's two buildings. One of them is called Our Ladies.

993
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:09,599
That's the great brick building. That's the older building. Half

994
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:11,920
of that, but more than half of that his apartment,

995
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:14,280
So I imagine that's what he was talking about people

996
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,360
living in us. And then the very bottom of it

997
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,920
is abandoned and if you go up through the fence,

998
00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:22,280
then you'll come to the more more modern eighteen hundred

999
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,000
Saint Kevin's, which is the great brick building. So there

1000
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,840
are two asylum next leader two massive buildings, and then

1001
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,400
kind of a lot of outbuildings around them. Of Our

1002
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:34,119
Ladies is where we probably we investigate Our Ladies more.

1003
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,719
And that's the first place we ever got the name.

1004
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,480
So we were on the top Florida, just me and

1005
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:41,840
one as a girl. Again didn't have anything ats of time,

1006
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:44,199
but I asked for a name. When we went back

1007
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:47,159
and reviewed the audio, a very clear name of Stephen

1008
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,079
came for And we went back there literally about a

1009
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:52,719
week or two later, and we were just talking about

1010
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,039
the Stephen E Weeper. One of the guys can be

1011
00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:57,599
had asking me it's a record of a Stephen's pair,

1012
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,599
and I said, this has been one hundreds over the

1013
00:50:59,679 --> 00:51:02,480
years we did. Yeah, we've just got a first name.

1014
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:05,119
But in the background of that audio, you've heard someone.

1015
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,159
It's quite a scary you want, I don't like someone

1016
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:10,159
creature and it's me in the bathroom. We got a

1017
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:12,960
lot of phoebps in those buildings over the years. Saint

1018
00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:16,559
Kevin's then the other asylum close to it, was probably

1019
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:17,800
one of the place where I had one of my

1020
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,679
scary experiences. We went there one night there was for

1021
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,719
us and we were going down the back staircases, basically

1022
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,280
one of the older thirdcases in the asylum. There's a

1023
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,880
corner of the third you can't see what's coming around

1024
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,559
the corner. You have to go around. When I got

1025
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:32,199
to the bottom of a first and I could hear

1026
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,719
people like whisper and voices of two or three minuts,

1027
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,960
and we just assumed that other people had come in.

1028
00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:40,360
It was voice at that corner, so we were literally

1029
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,880
about to bump into them. And we looked around the

1030
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,719
corner and there was no wonder but it was a

1031
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,280
very creepy like mumbling phone. So we immediately went down

1032
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,960
and tressed the entrance point. Because it was heavy rain

1033
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:53,559
that night, so when we'd come in, we'd left footprints,

1034
00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:57,000
but there was no fresh ones and motion cameras again

1035
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,320
either audio around the building. No one else come into

1036
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,800
the building. But that was very spooky.

1037
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:06,199
Speaker 1: That is spooky, incredible. So the asylum anyway was put

1038
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,440
to the torch. There was it vandals or somebody.

1039
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:11,639
Speaker 3: I think Heavens was completely well, well Le's destroyed. That

1040
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,639
was burnt by vandals. Our Ladies, the Gray building the

1041
00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:17,199
park people are living in. They're still an abandoned black

1042
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,679
of ass but it's completely you know, it hasn't really

1043
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,840
been There has been vandalized as well, but a small

1044
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:24,920
small boards. It's just collecting it. Yeah, the asylum data

1045
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:29,000
over unfortunately, but they were fascinating buildings and we had

1046
00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:32,079
caught that probably at the north side of cock City

1047
00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:35,199
and that area is kind of fuller history. So you've

1048
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:38,039
got two asylum building about five minutes away.

1049
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: It's important to emphasize as well how big these institutions were.

1050
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,159
They would have held hundreds of people.

1051
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were massive, like Our Ladies is. Actually it's

1052
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:50,000
one of cocks. You'll always have people in cock Curry.

1053
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:53,599
It's the longest building in Ireland and it's one of

1054
00:52:53,639 --> 00:52:55,639
those that. I think it's like in the top tree

1055
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,400
in your longest continuous building to have then in Saint

1056
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,360
Kevin's which is a fourth story massive building as well,

1057
00:53:02,599 --> 00:53:05,199
that was built. They helped bring in more people because

1058
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,039
it's scary to think the amount of people that's in

1059
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:09,880
Ireland that will lost up for mental health.

1060
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,039
Speaker 1: That's so true, and so many of them had no

1061
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,800
real issues in comparison at all with today. They were

1062
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,119
quite sane and they would have been driven mad if

1063
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:19,599
they didn't.

1064
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you if you read about it, you

1065
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:25,639
could put your wife or your husband in there very easily,

1066
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,840
you know, or one of your children if there was

1067
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,000
a problem in the family. You only had to get

1068
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,159
a doctor to sign them in and it was extremely

1069
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,199
extremely easy to do.

1070
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: Moving up the coast Cove, yes, yeah, what's the history

1071
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,480
of cove? Like, so it's it's coastal, isn't it.

1072
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,159
Speaker 3: It's it is, yeah, be a seaside cone. It would

1073
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:46,039
be most familiar, but most famously suppose for it's Titanic connection.

1074
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,639
That's where it was. I believe it's the Titanic first stop.

1075
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,199
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right, yeah.

1076
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:55,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where people are left. They actually boughted them

1077
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,360
small boatsom were brought out to the Titanic, which was

1078
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:01,760
situated closer to this point, but that's where they left.

1079
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,119
And there are the Lucitania. When the Lucitania disaster happened,

1080
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,519
the bodies would walk back to Call and there's a

1081
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:12,360
mass grave in the old cemetery the of the Lucitania victims.

1082
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:15,159
So Cove has you know, I suppose it's connection to

1083
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,320
those two famous events, but you know, it's it's got

1084
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,840
its own history and there are so many buildings that

1085
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,039
we've done in Call for years currently kind of where there,

1086
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,000
like our main place at the minute is an old

1087
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:30,039
convent and Calls called the Convent of Mercy, and that's

1088
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:32,440
probably one of the most active places now that we've

1089
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,320
come across in years. Got some phenomenal EVPs there and

1090
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,360
we've been very lucky we've kind of had full access

1091
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,119
to it for two years now and we find that

1092
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:44,119
the more consistently you can go somewhere, the better evidence

1093
00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:46,159
you guts. But we've we've done so much in Cove

1094
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:48,280
and we've actually got a new I won't name it yet,

1095
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,760
but we've got a new location in Call for our

1096
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,480
first investigation of two twenty five. So yeah, well very

1097
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,400
excited for that one.

1098
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: I think the energy as well in the convent, because

1099
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,679
it's predominantly female, is the different type.

1100
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 3: Of energy interesting that you bring that up. We have

1101
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:06,800
found that in places so convents it seems like the

1102
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,000
females get better interactions. But we've also been to a

1103
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:13,440
priest college in Ballyvouney kind of in the Kerry Border,

1104
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:16,880
and Daoni Wheley interacted with the males, and I suppose

1105
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,400
it does make sense. You know, if they were exclusively

1106
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,599
the convent would have been all women, so it does

1107
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,199
make sense that maybe they wouldn't be as comfortable with

1108
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:24,559
the men.

1109
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: Also, a lot of these would have been very young women,

1110
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,599
and as you know, as often an association with their

1111
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,480
teenage pre pubescent energy associated with poulter geists. Do you

1112
00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:40,320
ever encounter any Poultergeist activity that put the fear of

1113
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,079
God into you?

1114
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 3: I would say, I suppose I'd have to come a

1115
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,440
posiress activity, and it's in one of those types of buildings.

1116
00:55:46,519 --> 00:55:49,599
It was in the old Madeleine Lundries in Cork Curry.

1117
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,880
It was just me and Paul that night, it was

1118
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,679
just the two of us that naight, and we didn't

1119
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,800
have about an hour and we were just I remember

1120
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,639
we had just literally said, this place feels very peaceful,

1121
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,199
it's completely fresh, and get any type of vibe. But

1122
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,119
nothing was happening. And about to a three minutes later,

1123
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,000
there's just a sounds like a door slamming on the

1124
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:09,280
floor above us, and that's when it kind of started.

1125
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,639
So that got our attention. And about i'd say, literally

1126
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:15,480
to a tree minute later, it literally sounds like someone

1127
00:56:15,519 --> 00:56:19,880
picks up a cupboard or some something huge heavy furniture

1128
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,639
and just flindered across the room. And then there was

1129
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,840
more banging doors and there was no one in that building.

1130
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,400
It was just me important.

1131
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: And did you stick it out or did you take

1132
00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:29,719
to your heels.

1133
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: We stuck it out. I'd say it kind of went

1134
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:34,760
mental for about twenty minutes. We stuck it out. We

1135
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,800
were in there about two hours, but we did that.

1136
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,039
It's the only time that we've actually left some work.

1137
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:40,320
We got intimidated again.

1138
00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:44,079
Speaker 1: I hold her, guys, it's just so you can't You're

1139
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:47,400
not you're not focused on any particular point because it's

1140
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,760
going on all around you.

1141
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I suppose it does make you like I've

1142
00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:54,280
never had a bad experience in terms of I've never

1143
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,119
been hit. Sure, nothing's ever bad. Like I've never been

1144
00:56:57,159 --> 00:57:00,159
followed home from the investigation. Nothing bad's ever happened. It

1145
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:02,960
does like whatever whatever was formed that night in the

1146
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,960
Medlan undrees, it was very heavy. It could obviously do

1147
00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:08,760
you serious damage. He pushed you over and down the

1148
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:09,519
cause you go.

1149
00:57:09,639 --> 00:57:12,639
Speaker 1: You know, are you aware of instances where an entity

1150
00:57:12,679 --> 00:57:14,400
has attached itself to somebody?

1151
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:17,119
Speaker 3: And we've done one or two private houses and aguredly

1152
00:57:17,199 --> 00:57:19,000
been happening, But yeah, I have come across that.

1153
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: I think private houses are so much more genuine an

1154
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,119
investigation because most people are at their wits end by

1155
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:29,199
the time they call some guys like you in.

1156
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: We've done a lot of them over the years, and

1157
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,440
it's been fascinating because we have got some power and armours.

1158
00:57:33,519 --> 00:57:35,679
But you've rather come across as the stuff to bring

1159
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:38,119
into it. Like there was a case quite sad really.

1160
00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:41,159
It was the older woman that our husband had passed away.

1161
00:57:41,159 --> 00:57:42,920
They'd been married for sixty five years.

1162
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:43,519
Speaker 1: Like that.

1163
00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: She was in the early stages of dementia. Turned out

1164
00:57:47,159 --> 00:57:49,440
we didn't know that when we first turned off, but

1165
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,239
as it went on, it became more and more obvious

1166
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:54,159
and it was like such, it was the first time

1167
00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:55,840
we've come across there. It's the only time I think

1168
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,480
they've ever lied to somebody. We said, oh yeah, your

1169
00:57:58,519 --> 00:58:01,280
husband is theirs. That's what she wanted, was that patrol

1170
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,159
husband to be there. Very sad and it's it's kind

1171
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:05,440
of it does take away because it started as a hobby.

1172
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,360
But when you get into that level, I suppose then

1173
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,239
you actually you actually do involved in something that is

1174
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,639
very serious to people, particularly in private houses.

1175
00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: You know, I just want to get through the last

1176
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,679
one I have here.

1177
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:21,559
Speaker 3: Fantastic that's the old Priest College, but we've got so much.

1178
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,480
That's probably the most active building we've been to over

1179
00:58:24,519 --> 00:58:27,360
the years. Even let I posted something from there, very

1180
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,440
very active in terms of class av piece one of

1181
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,000
the first ones we got there, who is fascinating. We win.

1182
00:58:33,199 --> 00:58:35,639
There was me, Jackie and Paul in this room. Paul

1183
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,199
is not at all you know, I've never seen Paul spooped,

1184
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,400
but on this occasion, and he's very very skeptical, but

1185
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,559
me and Jackie could tell he was there. Was he

1186
00:58:44,639 --> 00:58:46,840
kind of almost just seemed he just seemed you could

1187
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,199
tell he was half you know, figure sins. He said

1188
00:58:49,239 --> 00:58:51,280
he was fine, but afterwards he told us that he

1189
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,840
just got a very spook freedom for a few minutes

1190
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,719
in that room. And on the audio there's this class

1191
00:58:56,719 --> 00:59:00,960
a VP of someone say day cannot see naked crosses,

1192
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:04,079
so fun sentence. I asked Jeffie, what's that behind you

1193
00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:05,840
on the wall, and she said it was the stations

1194
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,800
of the Cross, So we assume it's some type of

1195
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,199
reference to that. All the EVPs we got there war well,

1196
00:59:11,239 --> 00:59:13,679
it just went out of them, the kind of main ones.

1197
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,079
And as a night there we got someone praying and

1198
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:19,360
then hail the father is said, we've got another one

1199
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,000
there again it sounds like someone praying. It's quite French.

1200
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,400
And then you can hear someone caught in and say

1201
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,639
I am a price. So we've got crazy stuff there.

1202
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:30,639
And if the only location, the only location, we've been there,

1203
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,159
every time we went there, we've got something. No one

1204
00:59:33,199 --> 00:59:34,920
else has been like that for us, but that's the

1205
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,280
only place that has been.

1206
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: Do you ever go out of county at all?

1207
00:59:38,239 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 3: We do, Yeah, yeah, we've been, so I suppose some

1208
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,119
of the famous ones we've been to. We were in

1209
00:59:44,159 --> 00:59:46,840
the hell Fire Club left Castle the health Fire Club

1210
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,159
Dublin left Castle after me. We've could have done more

1211
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,239
the famous ones around island with your jail, places.

1212
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: Like that Castle. What has your experience been there?

1213
00:59:55,039 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 3: I'm hate to be boring, but nothing. To be honest,

1214
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:01,239
I've already been there a few times. Look you, as

1215
01:00:01,239 --> 01:00:03,119
I said, you do need to go there a lot,

1216
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,039
but I didn't experience anything. And like we were talking

1217
01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:09,480
to the owner and she said to us that it's

1218
01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:11,559
every once in a while. He said that, you know,

1219
01:00:11,719 --> 01:00:12,760
is that what it's made up to be?

1220
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,079
Speaker 1: In TI further emphasizes the nature of what I'm doing.

1221
01:00:16,159 --> 01:00:19,480
Isn't it sensationalize? If you didn't experience anything, you didn't, but.

1222
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:22,599
Speaker 3: Look, hopefully go there into twenty five. We would probably

1223
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:25,199
be the most skeptical of groups, I think, even though

1224
01:00:25,239 --> 01:00:28,360
we all believe in it, we experience. Yeah, we are

1225
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:31,679
very very skeptical and it takes something pretty impressive to

1226
01:00:31,679 --> 01:00:32,760
make us say that was.

1227
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: Paranormal, And so say all of us. Matthew Clark a

1228
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,000
lovely guys and tear and more from him in the

1229
01:00:38,039 --> 01:00:40,639
coming weeks. We'd love to hear from you, So email

1230
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,880
Paranormal Ireland at ProtonMail dot com scary eras a mark

1231
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,440
manning media production, goodbye and take care.