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Scary Era Era is the Irish or Gaelic word for Ireland.
Paranormal means all the things that are impossible to explain
by non natural forces or by science, and Ireland is
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and charm. Oh and the paranormal. Welcome to Scary Era,
Mark Manning. Over the weeks we've heard from County's Meath,
Galway and Kerry, and later it'll be County Cork's turn,
as Matthew Clarke of the Cork Supernatural Society shall regale
us with twelve years worth of paranormal investigations from the
Rebel County. Now check out a YouTube channel called Paranormal Resident.
Its creator, Kiiron Aggy is a very talented filmmaker and
paranormal enthusiast in his own right. He's also somewhat of
an Irish historian. Within Paranormal Residence playlists, you'll find a
mini series called The American Medium. In its Kiron films
his friend Rhonda at various Irish historic sites and documents,
her psychic medium impressions of them. Ronda Hale as an
American with dual Czech Republic citizenship currently living in Ireland.
Go to Ronda Hale dot com and find out about
her thriving hypnotherapy and psychotherapy practice. You are about to
hear part one of my chat with Ronda and part
two as next week, when she'll be sharing her psychic
medium findings on Lep Castle, the Aukron Battlefield, the Rock
of Dunamass and Donegal Castle. I know what you're thinking,
Help me, Randa, Help help me Randa, And she did.
In fact, I've got a bit more help than I've
bargained for. Listen on. I began by asking Rohnda, hell
does she talk to dead people?
Speaker 2: I talked to them more they talk to me? Yeah,
they kind of well. I talked back and forth, asked
them a lot of questions, kind of like you and
I get to know each other talking now and having
a conversation. That's more how it goes for me. They'll
come through and just say hey, and they want to
tell me their story. Otherwise, on a client base, which
I do with lots of I have a lot of
people I read for privately as a psychic medium. We'll
reach out and they'll say I really want some information,
and their love of them will come through. But I'll
kind of put a beaker out and say, hey, anybody
out there want to speak and help out with this
person's query, And then someone will come through and we'll
have a conversation.
Speaker 1: And when was the first time somebody said hey to you, Ronda?
Speaker 2: The first time I can remember was before I ever
entered any kind of school at all, So I think
I might have been about three or four years old,
and I noticed that these friendly people were always around me.
It was always a pleasant experience. It was never negative,
and I thought everybody could see them. I didn't think
it was anything different. But they would be kind of
my little guardians and would say, oh, don't go around
that person, they're not your friend, or stay over here
by this person, or don't go over there, play over here.
They would kind of protect me and guide me and
coax me and tell me things that other people wouldn't know.
And so there sometimes you know how they say out
of the mouth of babes. I would say things when
people would go, oh, she must have overheard us. Talking.
I could hear the adults say or they'd say, oh,
how strange, that's odd that she would say that. But
I knew it for a fact because my friends were
telling me things. So I remember just as a child.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know you very well, but I
associate with you and my own like lash intuition. The
word that comes to me, and I'm not patronizing you,
it's sunshine. I feel. I feel you're you're a sunny disposition.
You know, it doesn't come as any surprise to me
that nine nice people came your way. They were probably
attracted to the sunny soul from the check.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much to say that. That's very kind.
I guess I've always felt it was more comfortable to
be happy than contrary. Everybody has days that are darker
than others, but in general, it's it's a comfortable place
for me to be in. I guess, a higher vibration.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dare I ask, has any nasty soul showed up?
Speaker 2: Yeah? They have, But honestly, I don't find it difficult
to put them in their place and just set the
boundaries strong and firm. So when I am I remember
one location I wish I could remember the name of
the location we went, and it was the rock of something.
It wasn't the rock of Castle, but it was the rock.
It was a rock.
Speaker 1: It was the rock of Dunna Mass.
Speaker 2: There we go, you know better. I mean, my goodness. Now,
I will tell you. In that particular experience, there were
these very very native people who were there. They filed
teeth and they were cannibals. And the thing I think,
the thing that made it so tangible for me is
that while we were there, I kind of tapped into
an active invasion that they were partnering with Vikings at
the time to do, and so I kind of it
was almost like I was immediately set into this really
really vicious thing that was getting ready. Yes, yes, yes, yeah,
and for some sense, and I remember I rewatched that
video and I never said it, but there was one
of them that I knew, he knew I was there
when I was there tapping into him, I could hear
his thoughts of what he wanted to do and what
his plan was, and just how very predator type of
thought process of how he was vicious and just bloodthirsty
literally and with that, at one point I know he
sensed me through time. You know, time just isn't what
we think it is. He glanced in my direction when
I was taking it all in and I was almost enthrawled,
if you will. He turned around and looked at me,
and I feel like he almost saw me in the
same way I saw him. He kind of knew that
I was intruding on what was happening, and it was
almost like, oh, yeah, come a little closer. And that
was like, ooh, that was a lot, but I feel
it went past it and I kind of shook it off.
Then we finally got up to the top of the
hill where it was really the invasion was really ensuing
and there was just a massacre in process. At that point,
I did lose my cool and I just said, just
get me out of here, get me out of here,
because it got so intense. I was like, Okay, I
don't have to be here right now. Let's just go.
I mean, we've definitely channeled quite enough. The temperature of
what was going on there was just so intense. It's
just like, well, I can go. But I've been around
other situations where one of the one place where I
actually was like whoo bowled over intensely was in the
castle at Donegal where the lady of the house. Now,
that was like just as real as me having this
conversation with you right now. She literally was an open book.
I could asked any questions she'd come through and it
was just poignant and clear and precise. Now at that point,
when she was replaying what had happened to her, it
was like a rape scene somebody who was like very
close to her husband, so she couldn't even say anything
about it or it could end her own life. I
literally felt on my hands where she she was pushing
against the rocks like the granite wall. I felt my
hands hurting. It was so intense. But you know, that's
that's pretty normal. But that didn't scare me because the
only time I was like, oh okay, let's get out
of here was there with the tribal type of.
Speaker 1: Just back to that one right. You said something interesting
there which I picked up on. You said, time isn't
what we think it is. No, can you elaborate on that, listen.
Speaker 2: I'm not a scientist, of course I at all. What
I do is I talk to dead people, and I
have had the beautiful, wonderful experience of after I connect
with the beautiful soul on the other side, whether it's
working with a client and giving them their reading or whatever,
after their grandmother lee, you know, after the session's over,
I will ask the grandmother and I'll telepathically, I'll say, hey,
do you want to hang out with me longer? Can
I ask you some questions? And ten out of ten
every time if I ask them to say, they will
always stay with me. And I interview them and ask
them all the questions, and I ask them, what is
going on with time? What is this thing? Are we
seeing it right? Is it as we perceive it? And
every time they'll say, no, there isn't any time. Time
doesn't exist. They say that everything is happening all at once.
Everything is continually happening, and it's it's kind of It
can be very much like on a loop. So you
can if you miss one train, time to get jump
on the on the subway. Basically five seven minutes later,
another one's going to come and you can jump on,
and you may not jump on at that same spot
where you wanted to investigate, or you can go on
and jump on and say, okay, take me to the
one I missed before, and it can take you straight there.
So you can actually gauge as if it were like
a sliding scale where you want to jump on jump off,
because it's all happening at one time, so you can
reach through many layers. So like if I've gone to
a location, like I went to Horror Abbey with my
daughter because I had filmed that location with Kiran in
this series, the American Medium series. Well, when we were there,
that's great. My daughter Zoe says, hey, Mom, I want
to go. I said, okay, let's let's get over that.
So my daughter also has my gift. We were there
and she's like, mom, this guy and I had I
saw this man kind of walking and following her around
when we were walking where Oh yeah, yeah, yeah spirit man.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he was like a medieval soldier. I guess he
wasn't wearing arm or anything, but he was definitely a
protective source, you know, type of person, and he was
following her around I could tell, and he kind of
thought she was pretty. You could tell he liked her.
And I saw him walking around. But that's not a
big deal because you see tons of people walking around.
Like I guess when I go to a place it's
very and someone else may not be able to see
anything when I go, wow, I can see all this activity.
I can see people live in their regular lives, you know,
like you turn on the History channel and it's basically
living history. Right then, so she turned around. She goes, Mom,
I feel like somebody's with me. I feel like a
man's with me. And I knew immediately I was seeing
the same guy she's talking about. And I said yeah,
And so she goes, he's really like really nice. I go, yeah,
actually he is very nice. He's a very nice guy. Yeah,
he's a man in beautifartner. I think he's crushing on
you a little bit there. She's like, well, she goes, well, yeah,
And so he told me to tell her that. Now
this might this not a little gory, but I mean
the sentiment and where it came from is very sweet. Okay.
So he told me to tell her. He said, look down,
and you can keep a piece of me with you.
And I said, what does that mean? Maybe what we'll
find an arrowhead or what are we going to find?
And we turned down. At the tip of her toe,
I said, I don't know. He's telling you to grab
a little rock and dig the dirt away a little bit,
probably one inch under the ground was just a tooth.
Speaker 1: Oh that's incredible, I do.
Speaker 2: So she still has it obviously, and he said please
take take me with you, and so she did.
Speaker 1: Tooth.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's it, so help me.
Speaker 1: Help you from dad puns here. No, that is it's incredible, though,
that is. You know what, I actually don't find that
outlandish at all. I find that's the kind of thing
someone wouldn't make up.
Speaker 2: There's the thing is for me is that I think
it's healthy to be skeptical. I am skeptical of like,
I'm extremely skeptical. So I'm not going to automatically assume
if I'm at a location and I hear a bump
or a whistle or whatever, I'm going to assume that
was the wind, or that was an animal that moved
it or whatever. But later, if I hear start hearing bells,
start hearing people singing or whatever, else, can you hear that?
Because it's quite loud and evident, And if they're like,
uh no, you're all right, raba, then I know for
a fact it's ethers of time seeping through a percentage
maybe twenty five percent of the people who come to
me for a reading, say, for example, they'll bay, well,
I've never done this before, and they're basically give me
a precursor saying I think you're full of crap here,
and I don't really believe this, but I really uh
so passed away, Yeah exactly, And they'll be like, you know,
I don't really you know, I don't know what I'm
gonna get.
Speaker 1: Out of that spot.
Speaker 2: My sister won't leave me alone in our mom passed
and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And then inevitably,
every single time we'll just start talking like you and
I are talking. We've got to let people be comfortable.
If you don't know me from anywhere, let's just let's
just relax, get to know me, get to know my
personality just slightly, be more comfortable, let the guard down
a tiny bit, and then sure enough his mother will
come through and she'll be like holding some bait good
or some something that would be specific to her, and
I'll say, well, there is a woman, and I'll and
I'll describe exactly how I'm seeing her in the age.
Because they can come through with any age show themselves,
you know, and they'll be maybe fmocunus chain smoking, or
they'll be holding one lady I was getting an eye
appointment at an eye doctor's. I'm like, there is somebody here.
She's hold on the plate of like Filipino eggrolls. She's like, oh,
she lost it and started bawling at the doctor's office.
And I was like, she goes, well, that's my mother.
She passed away and she that's all she ever did
was make that was her. She's super famous and her
whole family everyone people bought them from her, her egg rolls.
So this kind of thing will come through. And then
right then, because spirit is loving, weir, it is kind,
and they and they want you to say, hey, stop
being a doubting Thomas. This is really happening. I'm really here.
Here's proof, and they'll give you something that not just
you can resonate with, but you can't even deny that
that's that person, like how it I know? You know
how what I know? And then from that point forward,
then they're saying, okay, so listen to this crazy blonde
lady and I'm trying to talk to you. When you
just listen to her and stop being the ding dong,
you know, And so basically that's what happened.
Speaker 1: I think as well, what happens in that instant is
you've got an instant convert, an instant believer as opposed
to an instant skeptics. They're sold. You've sold them, you've
closed them. Well, I know that's your intention. The medium.
The thing is that person will be your biggest evangelist. Yes,
Rand that we look, we've got more to talk about.
So I want your feelings on this. Yesterday it was
a great day for me because it was my daughter's birthday.
But it comes to birthday. Yeah, she's a nice young
lady now and she's out in the world and she's
at college and what have you. It's kind of bittersweet
because I lost my mother on the same It's really
weird because my wife's birthday was my mother's birthday and
my daughter's birthday is my mother's anniversary. So I popped
over to the grave side yesterday where my late mother
rests with the good colonel or husband of over fifteen years. Yeah,
and I you know, I'm there and I know they're
not there, if you know what I mean. The mortal remains,
how do you feel about graveyards, etc.
Speaker 2: Well, graveyards very rarely are people hanging out there. You know,
they're not there most of the time. I mean, sometimes
I'll go through a graver and I can tap into
the energy of a person, or someone will show up
and start talking. But they're a peaceful and RESTful place hopefully. Yeah,
most of the time. I mean I've gone to definitely
my share of graveyard's, quite a few. But once in
a while someone will come and show up to tell
their story that you know, there's nothing ominous for me anyway.
I just don't see it that way as anything ominous
at all, or it's sad. It's like they've crossed over there,
and they've crossed over, they're already in the light, and
if they aren't in the light there, they will when
they're ready to go, you know. But once in a
while I'll have somebody who is like, maybe hasn't crossed
over yet, and maybe they were a bit nesarious and
up to no good. One time I went to a
graveyard and it was a pirate guy. I mean, it
sounds silly to say that, but he really was. I mean,
he steal and plunder and go to different ports, and
he was just.
Speaker 1: Not a good good guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, he was like a Jack Barrow for sure,
but he was like a likeable he was very Jack
Sparrows kind of likable kind of guy. But even him,
even when I went there with him, he hadn't crossed
into the light, and I asked him why, and he
said because he didn't feel that, given the lives he'd
taken in the way he'd taken them, that he just
didn't feel that that was what he should be doing.
He should He didn't. I don't think he felt like
he should have crossed, should cross it. We didn't feel
like he was worthy of crossing a break. I tried
to talk him in reason with him and just say, listen,
we all make bad choices, and some are more devastating
to the world than others. Of the choices that we
make hurt more or less people, but those are lessons
we learned. And then we cross over, go into the light,
and we have a chance to make it right and
do it over again better the next time. And so
he said, well, I'll give it a think.
Speaker 1: Basically, he just wasn't really was wasn't convinced. And what
about the Paris was it on his shoulder at all?
I'm a bee facetious.
Speaker 2: I didn't see any Paris.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been drawn to places?
Speaker 2: Oh? Goodness, that's why I live in Ireland.
Speaker 1: Oh really? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's why I'm here. My dad who passed
away when I was sixteen years old, Jack Hale, He
and I are very very close. Even though he's passed away.
I see and talk to him every single day. He
is the one who said I needed to leave and
get my European citizenship all lined up with passports, et cetera,
and move And I said where and he said, well,
anywhere in Europe will be fine, but I would like
to see you in Ireland. So that's why I'm here.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I followed his guide and that is exactly why
I'm in Ireland.
Speaker 1: I would like to know the difference, as Rhonda Hale
sees it, between and a psychic and a medium. Is
there a difference?
Speaker 2: Huh? Yeah? I am a psychic medium. The difference between
a psych and a medium is a psychic will have
very strong premonition and intuition. They will get glimpses of
a future, past, present, et cetera, and be able to
connect on that level where a medium actually can see
and converse with the dead. So a medium is somebody
who can connect, talk to and speak to the dead. Now,
not all mediums can, they know they can. Some mediums
can only hear audibly the conversation, and other people like
me can hear and see, so I could describe the person,
their hair color, what they're wearing, how tall they are.
So with me, I've got all of it. It's all
at once. But I am a psychic medium, and that
would be the difference between a psychic and a medium
or a psychic medium.
Speaker 1: Well, now we're in line, and I'm glad you've done that. Okay,
so you're going to hear something now, all right? How
does that? You know? What's that thing they called APR? Anyway,
that's what yet. Anyway, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
watch you on the spot and ask you to tell
me what that is. But it's age, by the way,
it's a packet of sage. I'll tell you why I'm
going to use it. I know it's cool in the gang.
When I I've stopped doing them, right, But occasionally I
would do pieces to camera on my own Markmanningmedia dot
Com anyway channel. I've noticed on camera a couple of times.
I'll get I don't I don't want to call it
the ORB. But the odd time, and it was weird
because the last time it happened I kind of mentioned
something about the paranormal. Now it was just I think
that was just a fluke. But straight away I can
see see I can see the monitor when I'm on camera,
this thing comes behind me and I froze frame it there.
It's not like but this thing looks like you're kind
of classic ORB and it comes down maybe once or twice,
not every time I appeared on camera, but it happens,
and I'm conscious of it. I see it come down now.
I frozen the other day and I went, that's not dust.
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's like a litter. Do you know what it's like?
Prawn cracker transparent?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's exactly. That's a wonderful description. Well,
I think many people do refer to those mark as orbs.
I haven't done lives in a while, but I'm actually
compelled to start doing them again because I keep getting
people email me and I'll do live readings and I
do pree channeling, free readings and all that, and inevitably
during my lives that's exactly what will happen on film.
And you can see them in the recordings after I
post them that there's the little prawn crackers floating around you. No,
you're right, of all shapes and sizes, that is definitely spirit.
That is spirit, that's energy floating around you. Know you
mentioned stage. I want to just get this opportunity to
let you kind of know the thing that I've learned
about stage through Spirit and them talking to me and
tell me to mind yourself when you're using stage, because stage,
a lot of people use it to clear the space
and clear energy and they've had some weird stuff in
the house and they want to clear it out and
they use the feather and they'll maybe have a shell
of abalony or something and go and just do that
and do the smudging sort of thing. I would never
ever ever use stage for that. I don't use sage.
I don't have it in my house. I would never
ever voluntary use it ever. I will use rosewood or
pala sancho. That's the only thing I would ever use
for clearing space because what stage will do is stage
is an invitation to a lower frequency. So if you
clear a space with stage, it's not clearing, your inviting
and it would maybe bring in not necessarily nesarious or
anybody to be afraid of, but it definitely could. But
it's going to bring in. You mentioned that only nice
people come to me. Well that's not always the case.
But I will say that if you sage, you're going
to have maybe more depressive energies come in who want
to connect and say, hear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the sound of me throwing the sage in
the bin.
Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear it. That's a happy sad Don't
don't throw it in the fireplace, don't destroy it by fire.
But yeah, just go on Amazon and buy yourself some
Palo Santle and you'll find that or Rosewood. But you'll
find that the clearing of the space, or the clearing
or what you do before you you know, do your
recordings in your video, whatever you're going to find the
energy is completely different, and the energies that do come
through are very different. Or like I've connected, I like read.
I read for people all the time, and most of
the time if I'm not doing like a energy fair
or an angel fair or something which I do throughout
the whole year. If I'm not doing that, I'll do
it over phone call appointment or a video call appointment, right,
and I will always light a bit of pala sancho
and get it going. And then sometimes someone will want
to connect with a loved one, maybe who committed suicide
or suffer from depression, or or if we're in the
reading and then someone comes through, maybe who was abusive
to them or something. The energy of that spirit who
comes through is much easier to deal with, much easier
to talk to. They're not as oppressive. Any malicious nature
that they might have had in the living is tempered
and then approachable. Do you see what I mean? So
with the stage though, it's entirely different, so it will
come in full form.
Speaker 1: I kept going to rationalize it as well. I kept going,
it's dust under a certain light. The camera is what
kind of anomenaly is it? You know? Right? So you
think it could be spirits? How do I know what
it is?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, spirit? Definitely, it's supernatural. And you know how
you can stant mark if you have someone like you said,
your mom's past and she just literally had her anniversary
right her being such a loving, sweet lady that she was.
I want to ask you to try this. Turn you
your camera on and don't have any other lights. Just
just be in the dark and don't face it to yourself.
Just face it to the wall so everything looks black, okay,
completely black. And then I want you to turn the
flash on so then you can see the wall shadow
of the wall, but you still in a dark room
with a flash on and it's not on your face.
And I want you to just sit there and think
of your mother, you know, think of all the happiness
and joy she gave you, and say, I'm glad you're
here with me. Mom, Come hang out with me here
in my little cubicle that I made here. And I
want to test this whole ORB thing. Can you answer
me some questions? If it's spirit, can you show me
an orb right now?
Speaker 1: And she will Wow, I'm going to Ronda.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do that. Yeah. Because a person is by themselves
and they can't get a hold of somebody like me
or someone else who can actually connect, and they want
to connect with their love, and they get some answers
like hey, is this a good idea or is this
a bad idea, help me out. I need to talk
to you dad, I need to talk to you mom,
or sister or whoever. What I do is sometimes just
because it's a wonderful way to communicate the spirit. Lie
down in bed, have all everything out, the lights out completely,
face your camera to the ceiling, put the flash on
and start. You can talk in your mind, you know,
and you can talk out loud. It doesn't really matter.
They're going to hear you either way. And ask them
a question. Can you please show me yourself, show me
give me a sign that you're here with me immediately.
The pattern that I always see is you'll see them
almost ricochet back and forth. I'll kind of go very playful,
very loudly.
Speaker 1: I hope everybody else has taken the notes that I'm taking.
And I don't mean that in a facetious way. I'm
listening to you, if I'm honest with you, I'm thinking
to myself. I'm trying again to make sense of it,
and I think there's a reason for it. Right. I
find it very easy to talk like in my head,
if you like, to my late father and kind of
have this feeling rather than my mother. And for that reason,
I feel guilty at times because my mother thought the
son shone out of me right and vice versa. However,
and it's not a mummies boy thing. The prelude to
it all was my mother had an eight year battle
which I would not wish on anybody with Alzheimer's, and
I found it very difficult to come to terms, especially initially,
with what had happened to her. There was a few
warning signs with the memory and stuff. When somebody announced
that she had that condition, some part of me shut down,
I think for a while, anyway, until you have to
get on with it as best you can.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 1: I suppose she'd kind of gone before she went, do
you know that way? And so therefore I kind of go, well,
it's not as recent. Again, when I'm trying to rationalize things,
it's not as recent as my dad's passing. He passed
on about three years after her, So I mean now
once or twice almost in visitation. But she visited me
in dreams. She looks younger. And now I'm talking a
flash of intensity. It's not a long dream. It's a
quick vision. It's like it's like a quick hello. But
somebody in the most blindingly beautiful spiritual. Yet now I'm
getting emotional Randa, Yeah, putting it on for radio.
Speaker 2: No, I know you're not. She's here right now. Actually,
she's here right now.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm And it goes so quick, you know.
But do you know what it is though? What I
get from it is he's really happy wherever she is.
Very understand she's really happy.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I would wish that for everybody.
Speaker 2: You know, what I want to tell you that I've
learned through my wonderful visits and conversations is that Alzheimer's
is if you want to take it on as these
are superhuman people who end up and I'm not saying
I'm not going to say suffer from Alzheimer's. I'm going
to say they take on the mission of Alzheimer's, because
what ends up happening is when someone has the condition
of Alzheimer's, what they're doing is they're having a foot
in both planes, on the human plane and on the
spirit plane, and they go in and out of their
body because they are doing work. They're doing work when
people cross over a lot of times they cross over
because they know that their loved ones here need them
to intercede for them much more than they could in
human form, so they cross over so they can intercede
it to help them and to make things better. When
people take on the mission I guess if you will,
of Alzheimer's or any of the variations of that. They're
presently needed here because some people don't want to let
them go. Right. And then when they're not lucid to
our human standards, if they're not listening, they're they're doing well,
they're doing work, they're doing some heavy lifting for people
that need them here, that are alive. Now, I don't
know if I'm not trying to turn this into a reading,
but did you have a little brother or somebody that died?
She's showing me a son, like you have a brother
that passed away that was young, very little?
Speaker 1: Do you know when we had this conversation a moment ago,
and I said, like skeptic to convert because right, so
I want the listener to know they are listening to
one of these moments. All right, you're close, You're very close.
Speaker 2: Because I was about, there's a little boy with her
right now. She has a little boy with her and
she's she's holding him close to her, and she said,
he's with me. Don't you worry? Is what she said.
Speaker 1: Okay, well you're warm, you're let's elaborate, right, Well are
you good?
Speaker 2: Well I didn't know anything.
Speaker 1: No, you're not.
Speaker 2: I don't have a choice because she showed up and
she said, listen, I want him to know. I've got
this little boy with Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well I can well to her. It would be her
little boy. Right, So let me just explain, because I
was you'd actually hit me on two fronts there, right.
The second one is what we're just talking about. The
first one is you know, you said that's the mission
if you like, of Alzheimer's. It was almost like a
foot in two camps. Okay, yeah, So again, I want
the listener to know everything I'm telling you now as
you're hearing it is authentic. You can scoff if you
want and say it's coincidental. But here is Mark Manning,
age sixty one years of age, talking to the lovely
Rohnda Hale. Okay, and who's a psychic medium. I want
you to I want you to know this first, the
foot in both camps. My brother was fifty four. I
think when he passed of it was the only good
thing that came out of this sounds ironic, but I
don't mean it to be to sound cruel. But it
was the only good thing that came out of mum's condition.
Is for the most part, she wasn't aware that, I
suppose you could call it. Her little boy was in
the horrendous position of having cancer. And so he was
a young man with children of his own, and he
was he would be dying, and he would still drive
up to see his parents as best he could now
during her care at that time, which was two thousand
and nine. She passed in two thousand and eleven. Jerry
was passing away, the Filipino and she was a lovely
lady carer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, a lot of love there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Said to one of the members of the family, she said,
you know your mother sat here today and she said
she she's talking to Jerry, which is my brother, her son,
her little her little boy. Yes, And she said to me,
she said to Jerry, will you stay And Jerry said
to her, no, Mum, I have to go somewhere. Yeah,
And he was passing. If he hadn't already passed, he
was on his way out, as they say, right, So
I won't say all dramatic stuff like I'm flummoxt and
all that. But I could give you, I could give
you a hug Rhonda for saying thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm you know what, I'm very thankful that I was
able to give you that information. It's it's purely something
your mother wanted you to have. She wanted you to
have something tangible, she said, so to know that she
really does hear you when you talk to her. And
she's also telling me something else that when you want
to speak audibly to her, she said, that's because we're
closer and you are holding on to the human aspect
of that relationship that you had and that love. You know. Now,
your dad, that's a character. Oh my god, your dad
is a character. Okay, Yeah, he's a character. He comes through,
he's a kick in the pants. He's hilarious, he's funny,
and he's a character. He's stubborn and hilarious and funny.
And he would come out with yeah, stubborn, stubborn and
he but but like I can almost see him. He's
got it. He's standing with his arms in a fold
right across his chest and then but he's got a
very quirky little smirky grin on his face, like he's
just he is, he's he's a rock of Gibraltar. But
he's got a funny bone and I'll tell you that.
But he he's easier for you to communicate telepathically in
your mind, just because of your experience and the type
of personality that he was. It's not that he was unapproachable,
but at times he made it difficult to approach when
you were growing up. But that's just kind of just
his whole demeanor of who he is. But he has
such a warm, big heart, you know, it's just you
got to chip away to get to it sometimes.
Speaker 1: N I don't mean to interrupt you, but can I
just say he grew up largely without a father his own.
His father made it through the trenches of the First
World War only to die of Ptcitus in the nineteen
thirty year. So he was if he wasn't even a boy,
he might have been a child, I think when his
father passed. Yeah, so there was that kind of thing,
which was now there's a military thing there as well,
but also a generational thing. You know, men had.
Speaker 2: Difficult yes, men, yes, not showing.
Speaker 1: Emotion that said towards the end, you know, and the good.
Maybe the last twenty years or so, I became very
very close to my dad, and I am and not
everyone is, but I'm a hugger and a grabber, you know.
And I made sure you know that he was hogged
and told, he told he was loved before you know,
he went to do the thing. But I'm sorry I
interrupted you getting anything else that.
Speaker 2: Oh you're fine, No, no, you're fine. That's kind of
what I wanted to tell you, is that you know,
you were mentioning before that communicating to him telepathically was
easier and you didn't find that that came as natural.
When you're connecting with your mom, you want to verbally
connect with her. She was just explaining to me that
that's why, because of the complexities of how you connected
with him in life, and that's just how it is.
It doesn't mean it's wrong or weaker or different or
not as strong or whatever because and then her coming
through in your dreams, she said, Oh, you have to
do is ask me if you want me to stay
with you longer. I will, and she'll come and stay
with you longer.
Speaker 1: Wow. I will be asking my mom then to stay
a bit longer. We'll have a little chatter. We'll do
that camera trick thing as well. Ronda, can I just
say thank you for that. I know you didn't intend
to wander down the road of a reading, but your
accuracy is just mind blowing. I'm going to stay no more.
I'm going to have to really think think about it.
So we leave it there, and part two from Ronda
will be in the next episode, and I'll just say,
when I did think about it later, Ronda was actually
more accurate than I thought. But that's personal. Mark Manning.
Early last December, Matthew Clark of the Cork Supernatural Society
returned from his holiday in Portugal, and it was an
ideal time to catch up with him. Sell us Cork.
Speaker 3: It's a wonderful couty in terms of We've got so
much history, don't it, Cork, from the city to Westcok
down the bottom. You could be joven for two hours
and you know it's just castle left, the cast left
the castle or abbey. And for someone like for someone
I suppose for this hobby, so much history here and
just just a fantastic place. I've lived out my whole
life and I'm happy that I've grew up in Cork.
It's been great for my hobbies which have developed over
the years.
Speaker 1: You're a proud Corconian. Yeah, you don't mess with the Corconians.
Of course, Michael gans himself with the.
Speaker 3: Cork Man he was, and we actually investigated a place
where he stayed the night before he got assassinated there.
So yeah, there's Guyrish history when you really look into
it as quite boutlan in terms of the castles, and
then when you move into more modern how it's like
you've got the asylums and medal and laundries places like that.
But that a magical sight to us with all these
ruined castles around.
Speaker 1: You know, when did you first get interested in the paranormal?
Speaker 3: It would have been when I was about seven, oh
so twenty seven, not twenty come up. Twenty years ago.
Me and my sister were. There's a place locally to
where we lived called the Nano Nagle Cemetery and it's
a convent. At the time, it was still in use
as a convent and you could walk around the cemetery,
which we did. We were in there one summer's day
and we had been in there but an hour or so,
and just as we were leaving, we were kind of
going towards the convent building and we could see smoke
in one of the windows, and we kind of went
over to have a look at that investigated. We would
have for two or three minutes. Smoke kind of developed
into a human shape. I'll never forget to see in
the figure, the arms particularly just so clear developed into
a human shape. And then I remember there was an
older couple who were in their cemeteries and they thought
as well. So from that moment and I was fascinated
with the parent ormal and we used to walk every
day for years. We used to go in there, but
never saw anything like that again. But that's kind of
how it started.
Speaker 1: You have an open mind from then on Cork supernatural Society.
Did you set that up or was it already in existence?
Speaker 3: I said it up. I would started really from that
moment I started getting I would say I got more.
You would think it would be just a parent ormal,
but actually got more interested in history and abandoned building.
I started exploring them when I was quite young and
my family were interested in mess I suppose from a
safety point of view, I was very lucky that way
that my mother was interested in us. She wanted to
go with me, you know, so I wasn't exploring these
places by myself, and it just started. We had one
or two experiences when doing just exploring abandoned buildings John today,
I remember being in a place called Saint Kevin's Asylum,
which is here in Cork City.
Speaker 1: Was there a fire recently?
Speaker 3: There was a few years ago. It was basically got it.
It's just a kind of shell of it now, but yeah,
we went there one day and we had a dog fleming.
Kind of paranormal stuff kept popping up, and I'd had
that experience. My mum had had her own experiences. So
we actually set it up as a family group. So
that would have been two thirteen. We set it up
there and it just started kind of a small time thing,
just a few of us in the family and one
or two friends that had developed into bringing in as
a people as it went on, and we now have
a group of tents. There is an interesting way we started.
I'm the only person from my family that's still involved.
But we've had Kim Paul, We've known them you know,
for close on ten years now, so and you know,
it is I suppose going fil and doing intimidating places
together for years and in so you do go very
close and we usually keep it to relatively small numbers,
so you do get to know them and they do
become just like family.
Speaker 1: What was your first location?
Speaker 3: It was a local place called Ballincolic Castle, so there
was a legend of a man had been seen there
over the years, and that's how we started. Didn't get anything,
to be honest, but that was the nice way I
kind of got the bog, I suppose.
Speaker 1: And did you ever go back?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those places I always wanted to
get something there, Like we went back there last year
for the tenure anniversary. We always go back there, but
to be honest, we haven't come across anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was the first time. What was the
history of Ballincolic Castle? Do you know?
Speaker 3: There's only the keep that its remain in there, but
it's got the full on curtain wall, which is kind
of unusual to see. There's not too many annoyland like
that to have it fully in test, particularly for a ruin.
So it was the ghostory that drew us there. I
know the castle was used as a prison at one point,
so on the grown floor, so that kind of drew
was there. We just picked this because it was local
and we knew how to get there. That's how we
started with that place. Look at it. It's the thirteenth
century castle and been a while now since I read
up on us. Before my memory, they believed there was
a kind of an earlier settlement there, going back to
the tenth or eleventh century, before the castle that we
see today.
Speaker 1: With them, did you go at night or during the day.
Speaker 3: First time we went on the day just to kind
of have a look at the place and get familiar
with it. But we do all our investigations John the Knight,
So when we went back for the first pop investigation
it was a.
Speaker 1: Nighttime was so it was a lovely place. But it's
been a washout in terms of activity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that has been.
Speaker 1: No EVPs are anything.
Speaker 3: Literally nothing, and we've been there fou with an engineer
over nothing. Yeah. We do find that you can go
to a place as another castle not too far from
there called Kilcray Castle as an abby there as well. Bush.
We must have went there over the years eight or
nine times and never got anything, and only recently we
got our first EVP there. Some places just take a
lot of time and a lot of efforts to get something.
I don't particularly find castles they're active, and I think
it may be due to how old they are. I
do wonder dos energy paranormal energy kind of burnout over
the years, because for all the places we've found most
active would be the more recent places as in asylum,
the medal in lundries, places like that that only closed
down within the last ten, fifteen, twenty years. You know,
they would be typically the buildings we find more active
rather than ancient castle.
Speaker 1: Many investigations do you average a year.
Speaker 3: We were kind of aim to do a big one
every month there, but we do kind of We'll go
to ruins and asylum, depending buildings. I would say, like
this year we've done thirty five.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll get one more in now before the
end of the year. And you know, some of them
they're not all like all full light ones. Some of
them will be two three hours local place and then
we'll get in our major ones alongside that. You know,
both with island, there are so many castles and even
if they don't have a paranormal history, I just love
going to them. We're just try and take off each one.
We go along and see do we find anything, and
if we do find something, then you know we found one.
And we go back there regularly and.
Speaker 1: You document all your findings on your Facebook page and Instagram. Yeah,
we do.
Speaker 3: And we're gonna always asked about YouTube, so we're gonna push,
We're gonna put a bit more foot into youtubeer and
two twenty five, now that would be the kind of
new go.
Speaker 1: Well, it's the way to go. It's the second biggest
search engine in the world, you know, Matthew, Yeah it is.
Speaker 3: And you know, there's never really been a goal of
flicks being on TV or anything like that. It's just
I see the Facebook pages anmost like a diary that
I just share.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so i'd say in two twenty five, you're open
for new members too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You're always looking, Yeah, always looking.
Speaker 3: And we do a lot of public events, so we meet.
We often meet people on those events that turn into
members as they go on. Two years, you know, and do.
Speaker 1: You tune up with the equipment and if so, what yeah, type.
Speaker 3: And we basically have all types of night vision cameras,
CCTV system, different audio equipment, and then you'd have the
typical motion camerak K two meters, all your kind of
standard power ormal equipment. For me, it's all about their
audio and video cameras are the best.
Speaker 1: YouTube Buddy Jenny Sullivan in Emerald Dial Paranormal. She's big
into her EVPs, isn't she.
Speaker 3: For me, that probably would be the most common way
that we get stuff would be true audio. Like I said,
we've done thirty five investigations this year, and we probably
have maybe three or four good pieces of.
Speaker 1: Audio, you know, but your treasure them, you do.
Speaker 3: And you know I always remember getting my first one,
and each one you actually do remember each place, each one,
so yeah, you do treasure them.
Speaker 1: What's the most shocking one.
Speaker 3: We were in a pub in Cork City that we've
been called in to investigate called the Poor Relations, and
it was just three of us in the room, and
I had asked them how many spirits are present? When
we play back the audio. There's the Claire with the
response that really is an incredible piece of audio, saying
just me, this is like crystal clear, and it's actually funny.
You know you do this so often. I was planning
my next questions in my head when I played back
to the audio, and it was so clear. The two
lads with me just both kind of said they both
just went and they don't serve at me, and I
was so distressing things about my next questions. I didn't
even take no orders to this, but it is incredibly,
incredibly clear.
Speaker 1: Did you ever visit any of the plague pits, salmine pits,
you know where the kind of mass burials happened.
Speaker 3: This one in court called cars Hill. We've been out
there once or twice. Those kind of places are kind
of toss to investigate because they're outdoors. The one that
we were in cars Hill was just literally across in
a field that marks the spot, but there's a busy
road next to us. That's kind of it was a
hard one to actually investigation and take seriously intent of audio.
You had constant sound of cars going past. Yeah, you know,
it's hard to say because when you've got so much
noise in the background, that kind of just makes a
pointments and that you see in as you physically see something,
But that's extremely unlikely.
Speaker 1: I'm going to share some locations with you Stan's Cathedral,
ard More.
Speaker 3: That was one. We were actually going to a large
house up the road from that called do our Duke
Castle or odd more houses known as and we were
just killing time and we came across Sat Declin and
we went in there. We only in there about an hour,
so we went on to the as a location. But
that's one of the places that we're looking to go
back to in the start of the year. I'll hopefully
have more news from there.
Speaker 1: So it looked it looked very impressive.
Speaker 3: You know, it's done, and I didn't expect writing the
Center of art More to come across something like that.
Just an incredible place which goes back all the way
to the fifth century.
Speaker 1: I believe it's all documented on your Facebook page.
Speaker 3: Isn't it all documented?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Timer League Abbey, yes and pronounce are correctly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I have a thing here a note mystery
man that was that was probably one of that was
quite an early investigation about twenty fourteen, so maybe about
a year after we'd set up. Timer League is one
of those places that i'd heard about. There was a
couple of core groups before and they had told me
that they had got some EVPs there. So we went
to Timi League. Now on the night it was all quiet.
We didn't come across anything. But it was the following
day when I was reviewing pictures. I was just going
through the pictures I took the night before, and in
one of them there's a clear figure of a man
just standing the close to a grave, and we were
all walking towards where this man was. None of us
saw anything, none of the cam was picked up anything.
It was just on this one photo you can see
the men. And now it's not one of those photos
where you've gott to draw a line around it to
show people where it is. This is a crystal clare outline. Yeah,
and you can actually see if you look at his legs,
you can actually see the graves behind him. You can
actually see through him.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: That was an incredible I just couldn't believe it. I
remember at first, I just assumed there was someone had
got into the abbey that we didn't realize. And I
went around looking at all we had motion can we
set up on every entrance and nothing was picked up.
And then I had a kind of zoomed in on
it and had a proper look at it, and you
can actually see the graves at the bottom of the
grave through his legs, so that would be probably one
of the most incredible the sco.
Speaker 1: For we've got well done. You must have been delighted
with yourself when Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it was one of those we haven't been doing
it that long, so I kind of thought Jesus, I
didn't take a flag. Ever, what else will we find?
But we probably never caught something like that again.
Speaker 1: You know, wh where's Timiley Gabby exactly?
Speaker 3: It's West Cork be downed the bottom of West Coalk
in the village of Timately, but we've never caught him again.
But it was just fascinating and it was huge force
because we posted on Facebook. We only had a few
followers at that point, but it really like the followers
from that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Matthew. The first phone call we ever got the
Scary Era was from a guy in Skull in County
County Cork. He was saying there was an awful lot
of activity in I'm not sure which which asylum in Cork,
but I think there had been building nearby or on
an original site and the residents were reporting all kinds
of stuff. What has been your experience of those former institutions?
Speaker 3: So the Cork Asylum that would be, that's the place
that really started it for me as there are so
there's two buildings. One of them is called Our Ladies.
That's the great brick building. That's the older building. Half
of that, but more than half of that his apartment,
So I imagine that's what he was talking about people
living in us. And then the very bottom of it
is abandoned and if you go up through the fence,
then you'll come to the more more modern eighteen hundred
Saint Kevin's, which is the great brick building. So there
are two asylum next leader two massive buildings, and then
kind of a lot of outbuildings around them. Of Our
Ladies is where we probably we investigate Our Ladies more.
And that's the first place we ever got the name.
So we were on the top Florida, just me and
one as a girl. Again didn't have anything ats of time,
but I asked for a name. When we went back
and reviewed the audio, a very clear name of Stephen
came for And we went back there literally about a
week or two later, and we were just talking about
the Stephen E Weeper. One of the guys can be
had asking me it's a record of a Stephen's pair,
and I said, this has been one hundreds over the
years we did. Yeah, we've just got a first name.
But in the background of that audio, you've heard someone.
It's quite a scary you want, I don't like someone
creature and it's me in the bathroom. We got a
lot of phoebps in those buildings over the years. Saint
Kevin's then the other asylum close to it, was probably
one of the place where I had one of my
scary experiences. We went there one night there was for
us and we were going down the back staircases, basically
one of the older thirdcases in the asylum. There's a
corner of the third you can't see what's coming around
the corner. You have to go around. When I got
to the bottom of a first and I could hear
people like whisper and voices of two or three minuts,
and we just assumed that other people had come in.
It was voice at that corner, so we were literally
about to bump into them. And we looked around the
corner and there was no wonder but it was a
very creepy like mumbling phone. So we immediately went down
and tressed the entrance point. Because it was heavy rain
that night, so when we'd come in, we'd left footprints,
but there was no fresh ones and motion cameras again
either audio around the building. No one else come into
the building. But that was very spooky.
Speaker 1: That is spooky, incredible. So the asylum anyway was put
to the torch. There was it vandals or somebody.
Speaker 3: I think Heavens was completely well, well Le's destroyed. That
was burnt by vandals. Our Ladies, the Gray building the
park people are living in. They're still an abandoned black
of ass but it's completely you know, it hasn't really
been There has been vandalized as well, but a small
small boards. It's just collecting it. Yeah, the asylum data
over unfortunately, but they were fascinating buildings and we had
caught that probably at the north side of cock City
and that area is kind of fuller history. So you've
got two asylum building about five minutes away.
Speaker 1: It's important to emphasize as well how big these institutions were.
They would have held hundreds of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were massive, like Our Ladies is. Actually it's
one of cocks. You'll always have people in cock Curry.
It's the longest building in Ireland and it's one of
those that. I think it's like in the top tree
in your longest continuous building to have then in Saint
Kevin's which is a fourth story massive building as well,
that was built. They helped bring in more people because
it's scary to think the amount of people that's in
Ireland that will lost up for mental health.
Speaker 1: That's so true, and so many of them had no
real issues in comparison at all with today. They were
quite sane and they would have been driven mad if
they didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you if you read about it, you
could put your wife or your husband in there very easily,
you know, or one of your children if there was
a problem in the family. You only had to get
a doctor to sign them in and it was extremely
extremely easy to do.
Speaker 1: Moving up the coast Cove, yes, yeah, what's the history
of cove? Like, so it's it's coastal, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It's it is, yeah, be a seaside cone. It would
be most familiar, but most famously suppose for it's Titanic connection.
That's where it was. I believe it's the Titanic first stop.
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where people are left. They actually boughted them
small boatsom were brought out to the Titanic, which was
situated closer to this point, but that's where they left.
And there are the Lucitania. When the Lucitania disaster happened,
the bodies would walk back to Call and there's a
mass grave in the old cemetery the of the Lucitania victims.
So Cove has you know, I suppose it's connection to
those two famous events, but you know, it's it's got
its own history and there are so many buildings that
we've done in Call for years currently kind of where there,
like our main place at the minute is an old
convent and Calls called the Convent of Mercy, and that's
probably one of the most active places now that we've
come across in years. Got some phenomenal EVPs there and
we've been very lucky we've kind of had full access
to it for two years now and we find that
the more consistently you can go somewhere, the better evidence
you guts. But we've we've done so much in Cove
and we've actually got a new I won't name it yet,
but we've got a new location in Call for our
first investigation of two twenty five. So yeah, well very
excited for that one.
Speaker 1: I think the energy as well in the convent, because
it's predominantly female, is the different type.
Speaker 3: Of energy interesting that you bring that up. We have
found that in places so convents it seems like the
females get better interactions. But we've also been to a
priest college in Ballyvouney kind of in the Kerry Border,
and Daoni Wheley interacted with the males, and I suppose
it does make sense. You know, if they were exclusively
the convent would have been all women, so it does
make sense that maybe they wouldn't be as comfortable with
the men.
Speaker 1: Also, a lot of these would have been very young women,
and as you know, as often an association with their
teenage pre pubescent energy associated with poulter geists. Do you
ever encounter any Poultergeist activity that put the fear of
God into you?
Speaker 3: I would say, I suppose I'd have to come a
posiress activity, and it's in one of those types of buildings.
It was in the old Madeleine Lundries in Cork Curry.
It was just me and Paul that night, it was
just the two of us that naight, and we didn't
have about an hour and we were just I remember
we had just literally said, this place feels very peaceful,
it's completely fresh, and get any type of vibe. But
nothing was happening. And about to a three minutes later,
there's just a sounds like a door slamming on the
floor above us, and that's when it kind of started.
So that got our attention. And about i'd say, literally
to a tree minute later, it literally sounds like someone
picks up a cupboard or some something huge heavy furniture
and just flindered across the room. And then there was
more banging doors and there was no one in that building.
It was just me important.
Speaker 1: And did you stick it out or did you take
to your heels.
Speaker 3: We stuck it out. I'd say it kind of went
mental for about twenty minutes. We stuck it out. We
were in there about two hours, but we did that.
It's the only time that we've actually left some work.
We got intimidated again.
Speaker 1: I hold her, guys, it's just so you can't You're
not you're not focused on any particular point because it's
going on all around you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I suppose it does make you like I've
never had a bad experience in terms of I've never
been hit. Sure, nothing's ever bad. Like I've never been
followed home from the investigation. Nothing bad's ever happened. It
does like whatever whatever was formed that night in the
Medlan undrees, it was very heavy. It could obviously do
you serious damage. He pushed you over and down the
cause you go.
Speaker 1: You know, are you aware of instances where an entity
has attached itself to somebody?
Speaker 3: And we've done one or two private houses and aguredly
been happening, But yeah, I have come across that.
Speaker 1: I think private houses are so much more genuine an
investigation because most people are at their wits end by
the time they call some guys like you in.
Speaker 3: We've done a lot of them over the years, and
it's been fascinating because we have got some power and armours.
But you've rather come across as the stuff to bring
into it. Like there was a case quite sad really.
It was the older woman that our husband had passed away.
They'd been married for sixty five years.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 3: She was in the early stages of dementia. Turned out
we didn't know that when we first turned off, but
as it went on, it became more and more obvious
and it was like such, it was the first time
we've come across there. It's the only time I think
they've ever lied to somebody. We said, oh yeah, your
husband is theirs. That's what she wanted, was that patrol
husband to be there. Very sad and it's it's kind
of it does take away because it started as a hobby.
But when you get into that level, I suppose then
you actually you actually do involved in something that is
very serious to people, particularly in private houses.
Speaker 1: You know, I just want to get through the last
one I have here.
Speaker 3: Fantastic that's the old Priest College, but we've got so much.
That's probably the most active building we've been to over
the years. Even let I posted something from there, very
very active in terms of class av piece one of
the first ones we got there, who is fascinating. We win.
There was me, Jackie and Paul in this room. Paul
is not at all you know, I've never seen Paul spooped,
but on this occasion, and he's very very skeptical, but
me and Jackie could tell he was there. Was he
kind of almost just seemed he just seemed you could
tell he was half you know, figure sins. He said
he was fine, but afterwards he told us that he
just got a very spook freedom for a few minutes
in that room. And on the audio there's this class
a VP of someone say day cannot see naked crosses,
so fun sentence. I asked Jeffie, what's that behind you
on the wall, and she said it was the stations
of the Cross, So we assume it's some type of
reference to that. All the EVPs we got there war well,
it just went out of them, the kind of main ones.
And as a night there we got someone praying and
then hail the father is said, we've got another one
there again it sounds like someone praying. It's quite French.
And then you can hear someone caught in and say
I am a price. So we've got crazy stuff there.
And if the only location, the only location, we've been there,
every time we went there, we've got something. No one
else has been like that for us, but that's the
only place that has been.
Speaker 1: Do you ever go out of county at all?
Speaker 3: We do, Yeah, yeah, we've been, so I suppose some
of the famous ones we've been to. We were in
the hell Fire Club left Castle the health Fire Club
Dublin left Castle after me. We've could have done more
the famous ones around island with your jail, places.
Speaker 1: Like that Castle. What has your experience been there?
Speaker 3: I'm hate to be boring, but nothing. To be honest,
I've already been there a few times. Look you, as
I said, you do need to go there a lot,
but I didn't experience anything. And like we were talking
to the owner and she said to us that it's
every once in a while. He said that, you know,
is that what it's made up to be?
Speaker 1: In TI further emphasizes the nature of what I'm doing.
Isn't it sensationalize? If you didn't experience anything, you didn't, but.
Speaker 3: Look, hopefully go there into twenty five. We would probably
be the most skeptical of groups, I think, even though
we all believe in it, we experience. Yeah, we are
very very skeptical and it takes something pretty impressive to
make us say that was.
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