Speaker 1: Hi, this is Fred Green of Golf Smarter with our
Speaker 1: spring back into Golf season with the late Tony Manzoni.
Speaker 1: In previous years of replaying these episodes as part of
Speaker 1: our archived content, we kept it to a hand picked
Speaker 1: selection of nine. But this time and for the future,
Speaker 1: because of your response, we're going to feature every episode
Speaker 1: in order that Tony discussed his single pivot swing method,
Speaker 1: his incredible College of the Desert Golf Team's success, his
Speaker 1: book and video, and stories about his relationship with the
Speaker 1: rich and famous from Palm Springs, including the godfather of
Speaker 1: his daughter, Frank Sinatra. Last episode from July twenty eleven
Speaker 1: was just after he released his book The Loss Fundamental,
Speaker 1: One Simple Move, Better Golf Forever. We recorded this just
Speaker 1: after his video of the same name was published on DVD.
Speaker 1: After he passed away in twenty eighteen, both the book
Speaker 1: and the DVD were out of so we were instrumental
Speaker 1: in getting his widow to agree to republish the book
Speaker 1: on Amazon, including the Kindle format, and allowing us to
Speaker 1: distribute the video online. All this was with the promise
Speaker 1: to create a tax deductible fund created in his memory
Speaker 1: to benefit the first t of Coachella Valley. For more
Speaker 1: on Tony and everything we were able to find on him,
Speaker 1: please go to Golfsmarter dot com. If you'd like access
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Speaker 2: For members only.
Speaker 3: Golf Smarter number three hundred and twenty eight published on
Speaker 3: April tenh twenty twelve. Stop Topping the Ball Forever with
Speaker 3: Tony Mantoni.
Speaker 4: This is golf.
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Speaker 1: to help lower your score. It's worked for your host, Fred.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to golf Smarter for members only. Tony.
Speaker 4: How you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing well and I'm so glad to have you
Speaker 3: back on the show. You are such a fan favorite,
Speaker 3: a listener favorite on golf Smarter. I'm just so pleased
Speaker 3: that you've gotten such nice reaction from the Golf Smarter audience.
Speaker 4: Well, I do appreciate that, Fred, And you know this
Speaker 4: is a labor of love for me and I'm sure
Speaker 4: it is for YouTube. Oh yeah. We have a passion
Speaker 4: about golf and golf instruction and you know, I'm just
Speaker 4: trying to get something out there that helps people. It's
Speaker 4: not an ego basis. I've done a lot of reading
Speaker 4: and I believe every day that I listen to people teach,
Speaker 4: I learned something and I'm just trying to get this
Speaker 4: down to where it's great for the consumer, that they
Speaker 4: can understand it and do it well.
Speaker 3: That's what's so special about your teaching is that you
Speaker 3: are able to communicate it in a fashion that the average,
Speaker 3: the average golfer, the just the lay person understands what
Speaker 3: you're saying. And it's not so technical, but it is concise.
Speaker 3: And I think that that also is true to a
Speaker 3: testimony to how well your teams do at College of
Speaker 3: the Desert.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do have a great record, and we're off
Speaker 4: to a good start again with four and zero in
Speaker 4: league playing and we've played three in vacationals one, two
Speaker 4: and and that was the second place in one, so
Speaker 4: we're off and running. We're going after our twenty fourth
Speaker 4: consecutive year to win the conference, which is kind of crazy,
Speaker 4: but yeah, it is what it is. And you know,
Speaker 4: we have a new team every two years, so it's
Speaker 4: not like we have this dynasty that we're building here.
Speaker 4: But well, I mean, the weather, the weather doesn't certainly
Speaker 4: doesn't hurt. So we draw some nice young men and
Speaker 4: so far we've been lucky. Keep drawing them and we're
Speaker 4: saying the right things and they're producing.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what's so interesting is you say that these
Speaker 3: these kids only play for two years.
Speaker 2: What age are your team members? What are they raised?
Speaker 4: Right out of high school? You know, it's eighteen nineteen
Speaker 4: years old, So they're all yet man, and they all
Speaker 4: have a dream of, you know, playing this game professionally,
Speaker 4: So we try to put them on that track. Obviously
Speaker 4: they all can make it. We show them the work
Speaker 4: ethic that's needed.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I know that I know that you don't
Speaker 3: have much of an issue talking about your age.
Speaker 4: How old are you again, I'm seventy five.
Speaker 3: You're seventy five, and you're dealing with eighteen and nineteen
Speaker 3: year old which could easily be grandchildren or even great
Speaker 3: grandchildren at some point.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they really might. They become my children, There's
Speaker 4: no question about that. Yeah, And I love it, I
Speaker 4: really do. I learned from them in some ways. It
Speaker 4: keeps me from getting caught in the gap, you know,
Speaker 4: and staying segments. So it's a win win for both
Speaker 4: of us well, and.
Speaker 3: It goes back to what we were just speaking on
Speaker 3: that you're a ability to communicate with eighteen and nineteen
Speaker 3: year olds and clearly to have going on your twenty
Speaker 3: fourth consecutive regional championship, you must be doing something to
Speaker 3: gain their respect, to not have attitude from these kids,
Speaker 3: because that's an age where they can really have a
Speaker 3: lot of attitude when they come in and tell you that,
Speaker 3: what do you know, old man? You know, it's I'm
Speaker 3: just so impressed.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's not easy at times. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to say that it's always simple. We get a
Speaker 4: few kids. But you know, as I tell all the
Speaker 4: boys on my team, I don't care if you're a
Speaker 4: plus five. If you're a jerk and you want to
Speaker 4: stay a jerk, then you're not going to be part
Speaker 4: of my team because winning championships is important, but a
Speaker 4: billion character is much more important. And that's what I'm
Speaker 4: really here for. A lot of these young people haven't
Speaker 4: had a lot of parenting for whatever reason, and that's
Speaker 4: part of my responsibility is as a golf coach, is
Speaker 4: to help them on that. Part of it because the
Speaker 4: majority of them are going to go on to work
Speaker 4: in the golf business or do something, and it's my
Speaker 4: responsibility to show them what they need to do to
Speaker 4: be successful. And you know, that's just how it goes.
Speaker 4: And I love the kids, and you know, I learned
Speaker 4: a little bit. I mean, I'm not really crazy about
Speaker 4: their music, but they're not crazy about Frank Sinatra either.
Speaker 2: So they have a lot to learn.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll tell you something.
Speaker 3: I can almost guarantee you that it's going to be
Speaker 3: faster for them to appreciate Sinatra than it will be
Speaker 3: for you to appreciate their music, because I know when
Speaker 3: my when my younger kid came out of college and
Speaker 3: started telling me about Frank Sinatra, discovered Frank Sinatra and
Speaker 3: how cool he was. I'm like, oh my gosh, you're kidding. Really,
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean I have to listen. I don't have
Speaker 3: to listen now all cool jay do I.
Speaker 4: That's funny to popular, But you know, every you know,
Speaker 4: when we were kids, we had our own little fashions
Speaker 4: and some of the things. And I try not to
Speaker 4: be too you know, judgmental about some of the things
Speaker 4: they do, but some of the things that I can
Speaker 4: see that it's a determ from them and people are
Speaker 4: going to misjudge them. But where their pants down and
Speaker 4: all that sag and stuff, And I don't want to
Speaker 4: jump on them being critical pull your pants and that
Speaker 4: kind of thing, because that just makes them resist more.
Speaker 4: So I try to explain to them, you know, what
Speaker 4: they're projecting and how that hurts them financially and also
Speaker 4: people draw conclusions about them that aren't true, and a
Speaker 4: little by little by little bartipulate way and just trying
Speaker 4: to make sense without saying don't it starts changing and
Speaker 4: that's always.
Speaker 3: For the better.
Speaker 2: That's a nice approach.
Speaker 4: I tell them you got choices in life. You can
Speaker 4: be common or you can be special, and I really
Speaker 4: really hope you choose specially. And when you talk like that,
Speaker 4: their eyes open up a little bit, you know, so
Speaker 4: their minds.
Speaker 3: Well, that was a great piece of That's a great
Speaker 3: golf tip right there for any parent and any teacher.
Speaker 2: That's that's a great piece of advice. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Well, as we dole out these congratulations, let me also
Speaker 3: throw out that the DVD, the Lost Fundamental DVD has
Speaker 3: been created, published and released and It will be available
Speaker 3: on the Golf Smarter website. Thank you very much, as
Speaker 3: well as the loost Fundamental dot com. Talk to me
Speaker 3: about your new DVD, The Lost Fundamental, that supports the
Speaker 3: book The Lost Fundamental, One Simple Move, Better Golf Forever.
Speaker 4: Well, I was lucky enough to meet the young man
Speaker 4: by the Adrian Hertze, and he really helped me put
Speaker 4: this together. When we're trying to do a DVD, it's
Speaker 4: really easy to talk too much and trying to get
Speaker 4: your point across, so we edit it down to her.
Speaker 4: It's almost almost too simple, but that's the way I
Speaker 4: wanted it, and I think it's going to be very
Speaker 4: effective if people watch it. You have to watch it
Speaker 4: a couple of times. Is the only downside to it.
Speaker 4: You realize how old I really am. I've got a
Speaker 4: young voice. But anyway, all kidding aside, I'm very happy
Speaker 4: with the DVD. It's just a reflection of the book
Speaker 4: and for those of us that learn better by watching,
Speaker 4: I think it shures the purpose.
Speaker 2: M hmm.
Speaker 3: Tell me about where you start on the DV. Well,
Speaker 3: how is the DVD different than the book.
Speaker 4: Well, it's just visual. The concept is there. It's the
Speaker 4: same it's the same concept. But you see I use
Speaker 4: three different age groups and teach them basically the same thing.
Speaker 4: You can see their flexibility issues are different. But again,
Speaker 4: what I primarily say is, look, this works for everybody,
Speaker 4: and this is an easy way to play the game.
Speaker 4: And you're not to injure your back. Uh. That's that's
Speaker 4: the message. And I promise you that if you look
Speaker 4: at so many of the young players on tour, they're
Speaker 4: they're staying centered over that golf ball. They're not moving
Speaker 4: their head to the right anymore. Uh. And and and
Speaker 4: it's not something new, it's something that they're going they're
Speaker 4: going back to. It's what It's what Hogan did, It's
Speaker 4: what Nicholas did, it's what Palmer did, it's what Trevino did.
Speaker 4: None of those guys swayed off the ball, and and
Speaker 4: their careers lasted a long time. As we hit a
Speaker 4: certain age, it's really hard to move off the ball
Speaker 4: and back onto it while you're trying to hit that
Speaker 4: thing in the back of the back of it. You know,
Speaker 4: it's really hard to do that. It's it's it's doable,
Speaker 4: but the older you get, it becomes impossible. So that's
Speaker 4: what that's what my DVD's But you can actually see
Speaker 4: the person doing this, and that's that's the proof of
Speaker 4: the pudding.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I noticed that as well, and I think
Speaker 3: that the thing that came across in our multiple conversations
Speaker 3: before even that you have the pictures in the book,
Speaker 3: but you talk about this way and how that's just
Speaker 3: deadly to your swing.
Speaker 4: Right. It's just you know, there's been some great players,
Speaker 4: Curtis Strang, who's a big swayer off the ball. There's
Speaker 4: some great players that were but I don't think you
Speaker 4: can continue that, especially as you get into your senior years.
Speaker 4: And so what I think, I think it becomes almost impossible.
Speaker 4: Most of the people you see on the driveway and
Speaker 4: you see them get off their right foot and their
Speaker 4: body swings back. They're going in the opposite direction, and
Speaker 4: then they say, well, I guess I'm getting older and
Speaker 4: I can't hit anywhere. Well, you can't hit anywhere with
Speaker 4: your arms, but if you learn how to use your
Speaker 4: core properly and get your body in the right position
Speaker 4: relative to the ball and impact, you can hit it
Speaker 4: a lot farther than you think you can. And that's
Speaker 4: what I'm finding. That's the thing that I hear more
Speaker 4: than anything else. I'm hitting the father, and that's from
Speaker 4: people that are fifty sixty seven, even eighty six years
Speaker 4: old taking a lesson from me, and he claims is
Speaker 4: farther than he did when he was twenty and twenty
Speaker 4: years old. I'm not twenty years old and twenty years ago.
Speaker 4: So because he's hitting more square, and that's the whole thing.
Speaker 4: You don't mishit it when you're on the ball, when
Speaker 4: you're moving back and forth, it's just so hard to
Speaker 4: catch a flush.
Speaker 3: I recently took a trip with my buddies. I talk
Speaker 3: about this every year we go on this golf trip,
Speaker 3: and I noticed one of the things in looking at
Speaker 3: photographs of us at the end of the weekend. I
Speaker 3: have one friend who just he has no distance.
Speaker 2: He has a.
Speaker 3: Really tough time hitting the ball farther than one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty hundred and sixty yards. And I notice that
Speaker 3: not only is he most of his weight is on
Speaker 3: his back foot throughout the swing and definitely at the
Speaker 3: end of his swing, but he also does not help
Speaker 3: me on this one. He doesn't pivot his back foot
Speaker 3: at all. He's right handed, so it's his right foot.
Speaker 3: But when he's done with the swing, not only is
Speaker 3: he leaning far back, but his right foot, his back
Speaker 3: foot is still pointed to where the ball was tied up.
Speaker 4: Sure, sure, and as it must be, because if you
Speaker 4: put any any weight at all on the right side
Speaker 4: and then try to turn your body left or it
Speaker 4: has to go gets stuck. And and I'll tell you
Speaker 4: put a lot of pressure on your lower back. So
Speaker 4: for the listeners out there that are doing that, just
Speaker 4: put all your weight on your left foot to lift
Speaker 4: your heel of your right foot off off the ground
Speaker 4: so that you're just on the till and barely weight there.
Speaker 4: And then just turn your chest and shoulders. You'll see
Speaker 4: that you can turn left quide a ways. Then if
Speaker 4: you put some weight on that right foot, try the
Speaker 4: same thing and you'll see that you'll stop midweight. And
Speaker 4: that's where most people are, so they don't get the
Speaker 4: full force of the body driving through that golf ball. Actually,
Speaker 4: a good boxer, you know, it isn't in our motion.
Speaker 4: It's a body motion, and and everything throwing the ball,
Speaker 4: whatever the body has to be, has to be in
Speaker 4: position for the throw. It has to be in position
Speaker 4: for the punch. So if it's not a position you're
Speaker 4: going to, it's going to be a weak motion. And
Speaker 4: that's what this is all about. I'm not trying to
Speaker 4: reinvent the wheel here and then Holding discover this as
Speaker 4: have a lot of players. But the closer you're the
Speaker 4: center of gravity of the body is about four or
Speaker 4: five inches below the naval The closer that center of
Speaker 4: gravity is during the backswing to a pivot lake, the
Speaker 4: faster you're gonna pivot, and the freer you're gonna pivot.
Speaker 4: That's just that's just a scientific fact. That's not that's
Speaker 4: not Tony Manzoni's theory or anybody else's theory. That's just
Speaker 4: how it is. And Holding the smart enough to discover this.
Speaker 4: In a book called Maximum Gulf Uh with one of
Speaker 4: his students, John Sleeve, he said, I find that the
Speaker 4: more I'm on the left side of the top of
Speaker 4: the slane, I can pivot my shoulders faster on my
Speaker 4: left my left axis, consequently hitting the ball farther. So
Speaker 4: Hogan made the statement a often time ago. It's just
Speaker 4: that there's as so many people caught this thing. Well,
Speaker 4: isn't that reverse weightship? No? I had nothing to do
Speaker 4: with reverse wayship reverse weight ships is on the on
Speaker 4: the dolls wing where your body is going backwards towards
Speaker 4: the right foot. You can put all the weight you
Speaker 4: want on the left side at the top as long
Speaker 4: as you move forward with the second move. So you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, when you try to hit the
Speaker 4: ball low, you're you're moving forward, then the club closes
Speaker 4: a little bit. Well, in a sense, we're just centering
Speaker 4: ourselves on the golf ball instead of putting our heads
Speaker 4: behind the golf ball, and we make contact as we're
Speaker 4: turning through the ball. We're not We're not making contact
Speaker 4: as we face the ball. We're making contact as our
Speaker 4: body has rotated towards the target. If you think about
Speaker 4: Alaka Sorensen, she had only one of the best moves
Speaker 4: I've ever seen except for Hogan, because she looked like
Speaker 4: she was looking at the target when she hit the ball.
Speaker 4: But that just because she was moving through prior to impact,
Speaker 4: and that's where all that power came from.
Speaker 3: At the very beginning of this answer, you mentioned lifting
Speaker 3: the heel of your right foot. Now, is that just
Speaker 3: as a test or in your setup, as a.
Speaker 4: Test as a test, but one of the things that
Speaker 4: I do to ensure. As I put my right foot,
Speaker 4: I kicked my knee in and I put I really
Speaker 4: feel my weight on the inside edge of my right foot,
Speaker 4: and as I coil, I try not to gather any
Speaker 4: more weight than that position. And then when my hip
Speaker 4: turns behind me, my shoulder turns behind me, I'm actually
Speaker 4: displacing weight more towards the left side. If I was
Speaker 4: in a cylinder and I turned my right shoulder, my
Speaker 4: weight would be going towards my left side. There's no
Speaker 4: question about that, and no one could argue with that.
Speaker 4: And so what I'm doing is I'm bracing between the
Speaker 4: instep of the right foot and and the and the
Speaker 4: instep of the left foot. So I embraced there, but
Speaker 4: primarily the majority of my weight is left, okay, because
Speaker 4: that's where I have to have that impact. So I'm
Speaker 4: just kind of cheating a little bit. I'm getting it
Speaker 4: over there sooner. See. Now, all I have to do
Speaker 4: is to rotate hard rotator around that axis and the
Speaker 4: club head comes the last. My body is first and
Speaker 4: I get I get terrific compression on the ball. You know,
Speaker 4: for our old guy, I can still hit the ball.
Speaker 4: They're pretty good. Uh, shockingly Uh. And I'm certainly not
Speaker 4: a physical specimen, but I'm in the position to hit
Speaker 4: it as destiny with as much power that I have.
Speaker 4: And I think everybody out there probably hasn't reached that
Speaker 4: position unless they've read my book and been practicing. Uh.
Speaker 4: If they're in the middle of their stands or on
Speaker 4: that right side where they're hitting the golf ball in,
Speaker 4: there's no way that they're compressing the golf ball like
Speaker 4: they can.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then of course there's the the sweeping of the
Speaker 3: ball versus the compress of the ball, you know, or
Speaker 3: trying to lift the ball. That's the other thing I
Speaker 3: found that the same player did. Not only is he
Speaker 3: not turning, but he's with all that weight going backwards.
Speaker 3: It looks as if he's trying to lift the ball.
Speaker 3: He's not letting the club do its job well.
Speaker 4: With your way going backwards, your arms skill only goes
Speaker 4: so far and then they start going up. So, as
Speaker 4: I tell people, when you hit a ball fat or
Speaker 4: he hit the ball thin, it's because you're behind the ball.
Speaker 4: That's that's the reason. I mean, you know, it shows
Speaker 4: itself in a different forms, but you're behind the ball.
Speaker 4: When you're loving through the ball, the club is still
Speaker 4: it's actually shallowing out. But when you stay way behind it,
Speaker 4: the club that is going up, it has to go
Speaker 4: up because your center of your swing is a foot
Speaker 4: or two behind that golf ball. So so the forward
Speaker 4: arc starts way too early. And that's why a lot
Speaker 4: of people can't get an iron in the air because
Speaker 4: they're too far behind the ball.
Speaker 3: Oh well, actually, now that we're going to cont I
Speaker 3: know this friend is not listening to this, so I'm
Speaker 3: going to keep in. I'm not even to use his name,
Speaker 3: So I'm going to keep talking about this because I
Speaker 3: noticed so many things after talking with you so many times.
Speaker 3: I'm now looking at at other people so differently than
Speaker 3: I had in the past, because basically I wasn't looking
Speaker 3: at them, I was looking at their ball. But he
Speaker 3: tops the ball a lot, I mean, there's there. It's
Speaker 3: frequent that the ball is rolling off off the tee.
Speaker 2: I mean he rarely.
Speaker 3: We get all excited when he hits the ball in
Speaker 3: the air. Woo, great hit. Whether it goes right or left,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. It's like, oh you got it, you
Speaker 3: make great contact. Do you hit the ball in the air.
Speaker 4: Well, there's two things that cause topping. I've always believed
Speaker 4: when people say you looked up, that's just infanity because
Speaker 4: nobody's looking up. But what if you tighten up prior
Speaker 4: to impact where everything stops. When you tighten your hands,
Speaker 4: and in the anticipation of impact, your arms pulled back,
Speaker 4: your muscles contract so the club comes up a little bit.
Speaker 4: That's one way to top it. That's how most people.
Speaker 4: I always tell people, you top it because you're tight,
Speaker 4: not look up.
Speaker 2: But wait, and how how can we notice?
Speaker 3: Because I noticed that he when he's about to hit
Speaker 3: the ball, even when he pulls his club back, his
Speaker 3: whole face just turns into as if he's he's trying
Speaker 3: to How do I be kind about that?
Speaker 4: He's got to look it's because he's he's he has
Speaker 4: a hit thought. He's absolutely doing it perfect. He's telling
Speaker 4: his body that he's going to hit something. The body
Speaker 4: FLEs it up, getting ready for that blow. Uh. That's
Speaker 4: why everyone talks about swinging through the ball, swinging past
Speaker 4: the ball, using the ball as a point of reference
Speaker 4: to line line the body, but not not as a
Speaker 4: target once When you when you do that, your instincts
Speaker 4: are going to jump right in and you're going to
Speaker 4: tighten up your hands and you're going to do it now.
Speaker 4: Some great players can purposely try to hit it a
Speaker 4: little harder, but I promise you we've all done this.
Speaker 4: We take one more thub on a hole because we think, well,
Speaker 4: I'll hit an easy five instead of a six, and
Speaker 4: you blow it right over the green. Well, that's because
Speaker 4: you're swung. You were trying to hear anything. You're swinging smooth,
Speaker 4: so you're you get you get maximal flexibility to get
Speaker 4: maximum uh thrust. You get everything nothing scrolling down at impact.
Speaker 4: And when we topped the ball, it's an accelerating move. Uh.
Speaker 4: That's why I say when you when you stay behind
Speaker 4: the golf ball and you're gonna you're gonna you're never
Speaker 4: gonna get fairly loose up. I can tell you that
Speaker 4: you forget about hitting the three wood in the air.
Speaker 4: It's just not gonna happen. Uh. You've got to be
Speaker 4: moving through that golf ball so that club can shallow
Speaker 4: out and catch that ball a little bit on the down.
Speaker 4: If you're hanging back, it's that club's coming up too
Speaker 4: soon and you're gonna hit. You're gonna hit the middle
Speaker 4: or top of the ball.
Speaker 3: So for somebody who's been playing the game for twenty
Speaker 3: thirty years and has all these issues, it's not going
Speaker 3: to be very easy for them to make some some
Speaker 3: changes into their swing, into their into their basic mechanics.
Speaker 3: And I don't did after all lesson it's it's still
Speaker 3: he's going to forget it next in two weeks if
Speaker 3: he doesn't.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't really teach swing so much as I
Speaker 4: teach uh the relationship of the body to the golf ball.
Speaker 4: If I can get your body at address in the
Speaker 4: right position, and if I can get you to move
Speaker 4: your if you're right hand and get your right side
Speaker 4: past that ball prior to impact or at impact, I
Speaker 4: don't care what your hands do. If they're somewhat connected
Speaker 4: to the body there to they're going to react on
Speaker 4: their own. You can't purposely square the club of your hands.
Speaker 4: And that's just crazy. I get these guys say your
Speaker 4: risk has to be flat at impact. That's that's because
Speaker 4: of momentum. You can't put them there. The club's moving
Speaker 4: seventy eighty miles an hour depending on how strong you are.
Speaker 4: There's no way to do that. But if your body's
Speaker 4: in the right position, that will happen. You know, there's
Speaker 4: if you're rotating through that golf ball and you're and
Speaker 4: that club has last and your hands are going to
Speaker 4: be your hands are going to be flat in impact,
Speaker 4: they're not going to be cuffed. But once you stop
Speaker 4: that body, then the momentum of the arms going forward
Speaker 4: are going to cut the wrist. That's why that happens.
Speaker 4: It's just that people don't go through the ball. When
Speaker 4: you're hanging a golf ball, you have few mind. Has
Speaker 4: to be a position A, position B, and the balls
Speaker 4: in the way of you going to those positions. If
Speaker 4: you target the golf ball, you're never going to get
Speaker 4: the position B. And consequently you're going to cup your wrist,
Speaker 4: You're going to swing up prematurely, you're going to hang back.
Speaker 4: All those things are going to happen just because you
Speaker 4: didn't get through the ball. I mean, I have women
Speaker 4: that I teach and I say, look, when you get
Speaker 4: at the top of the swing, oh, I want you
Speaker 4: to do one thing. Get past the ball with a
Speaker 4: turning motion. And they're always so shocked when they see
Speaker 4: they hit so much farther and hit the ball up
Speaker 4: in the air. But that's I mean, that's that's the
Speaker 4: core thing here that has to happen. No matter what
Speaker 4: you do with your hands at the top of your swing,
Speaker 4: they can be cup flat. I don't I don't care
Speaker 4: about that doesn't mean anything. Then a cup wrist at
Speaker 4: the top tier with his flat wrist, who cares? What
Speaker 4: matters is at the bottom. And the only way you're
Speaker 4: going to go through impact properly is that the big
Speaker 4: muscles have to be pulled in the little muscles. Once
Speaker 4: the big muscles stopped and the little muscles move forward,
Speaker 4: all hell breaks loose. I'll let you're lucky you time it,
Speaker 4: you know, And you hear more and more players talking
Speaker 4: about I want to eliminate the timing action of the
Speaker 4: golf swing because there's just too much pressure out there.
Speaker 4: You can't get it out there and be timing the
Speaker 4: rolling of your hands and things like that. And that's
Speaker 4: been taught for years. I mean, that's how I was
Speaker 4: taught to play. You can't do that now now if
Speaker 4: you're going to play at that level.
Speaker 3: On our third and last round of the weekend, in
Speaker 3: the back nine, he was my friend was so frustrated.
Speaker 2: He said, what am I what am I doing? What
Speaker 2: can I do?
Speaker 3: I keep, you know, rolling the ball, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: are you asking me for advice? Because I kept my
Speaker 3: mouth shut all weekend and I'll be And all I
Speaker 3: said was, try.
Speaker 2: Moving the ball back about an inch in your stands.
Speaker 3: Just move the ball back a little bit and see
Speaker 3: what happens. Because if you're continuing to hit the ball,
Speaker 3: that must mean that you're you're you're you're on your
Speaker 3: upswing a little too early. Because I didn't want to
Speaker 3: say yeah, because you're leaning on your back foot because
Speaker 3: you're getting no rotation, because in the middle of a round.
Speaker 2: That's not going to help.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's no way to do.
Speaker 2: So I just said, just move the ball back and
Speaker 2: see what happens.
Speaker 3: And his next three shots were the best shots of
Speaker 3: the weekend.
Speaker 2: And he kind of looked at me, like, what where.
Speaker 4: What the essence? In essence, you move he moves his
Speaker 4: head more forward by moving the ball back. You see
Speaker 4: what I mean, I'm moving the ball back in the stands.
Speaker 4: The head position now is more forward of the ball
Speaker 4: than it was when the ball was forward. So in essence,
Speaker 4: you did kind.
Speaker 2: Of that hmm. Interesting, And I didn't even know I
Speaker 2: did that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what that's what you did, you.
Speaker 2: See, because I read the Lost Fundamental.
Speaker 4: Well, look, you know absolutely notall. There's a lot there's
Speaker 4: a lot of great teachers out there, but I know
Speaker 4: that this concept is is based in the science, and
Speaker 4: I know that when the body is in the right position,
Speaker 4: you can get your best. Everybody has a best. Some
Speaker 4: of us are limited because we're not athletics, some of
Speaker 4: us are weak, whatever, But everybody can play this game
Speaker 4: and everybody can enjoy it, and everybody can get the
Speaker 4: ball up in the air that has never been, that
Speaker 4: has never been. I've never had a lesson, and of
Speaker 4: thousands and thousands of lessons that I've give, I've never
Speaker 4: had anyone not be able to get it in the
Speaker 4: air once they understand what they're supposed to be.
Speaker 2: Right, right? And what about is the hip rotation?
Speaker 3: You know, as we get older, we get into our
Speaker 3: late fifties, our sixties, and god bless you in your seventies,
Speaker 3: the hip rotation. Some people just don't have that kind
Speaker 3: of flexibility. I don't know what kind of workout regimen
Speaker 3: that you have or if I have.
Speaker 4: No flexibility, No, I don't do any of that. I
Speaker 4: don't have any flexibility. But when my weight is on
Speaker 4: my left access and I turn my chest left, my
Speaker 4: hips turn left. Everything works when my when the center
Speaker 4: of my chest is to the right of my legs,
Speaker 4: like I was taught, take it back to put the
Speaker 4: stern them on top of the right leg. Okay, so
Speaker 4: there's a leaning of the upper body back behind the
Speaker 4: lower body. Then the legs have to go forward because
Speaker 4: the legs, the left hip has to align itself to
Speaker 4: the outside of the left footed impact. So there's that
Speaker 4: little sliding move that you had to make. But with
Speaker 4: this concept, what you're doing as you're coiling, as you're
Speaker 4: turning in your backs, when you're actually putting, you're actually
Speaker 4: getting to that position where you align that hip leg thing. Okay,
Speaker 4: so now you have a forward access. Now all you
Speaker 4: do is turn the top around the axis. The lower
Speaker 4: body works right with it. When you throw a ball.
Speaker 4: Did you ever think about shifting your legs or moving anything.
Speaker 4: I mean, your body, your top part is connect to
Speaker 4: the lower part. But if you chilt your top part
Speaker 4: over to the right, of course, the lower part has
Speaker 4: to go forward to bring the top part back. But
Speaker 4: when you're more centered to the ball, you're I hate
Speaker 4: to use this word stacked, but you're stacked on top
Speaker 4: of each other. So if you turn, the top of
Speaker 4: the lower part turns too, as long as there isn't
Speaker 4: wait on the right foot, and again for the for
Speaker 4: the listeners, just stand up, put primarily most of your
Speaker 4: weight on your right foot, and just take your left
Speaker 4: shoulder and turn it as left as you can. You'll
Speaker 4: see that you're hips and belly turn with it, so
Speaker 4: you don't have to worry about hip rotation. See, And
Speaker 4: that's that's one of the beautiful things about this is
Speaker 4: that you can control. And in my video I show
Speaker 4: you that. I show you that when you're at the
Speaker 4: top of that position, all you have to do is
Speaker 4: just clear your chest. Everything else will turn with it,
Speaker 4: so you don't have to get your legs out ahead
Speaker 4: of the you know, like say legs first, then top. No,
Speaker 4: you don't have to do that. So we're eliminating all
Speaker 4: these little timing things that we had to do. Hm.
Speaker 3: I have so many more questions, but we don't have
Speaker 3: time today.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you, I.
Speaker 4: Want to talk to the pros off, So I'm just
Speaker 4: going to say. I'm sure there's some golf goes out
Speaker 4: there that are saying that guy's nuts, But all I
Speaker 4: asked you to do is try it.
Speaker 2: Okay, well you're not.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I came out there last year with a friend of
Speaker 3: mine and you spent an hour with him.
Speaker 2: And the video is up on YouTube.
Speaker 3: It's on the golf Smarter TV channel of your you know,
Speaker 3: the highlights of the lesson that you gave my friend Neil.
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, ever since that lesson, he has
Speaker 3: been a maniac on the golf course. He says that
Speaker 3: he continues to do what you taught him in less
Speaker 3: than an hour, and his game has just gotten so
Speaker 3: much better. He's so much more confident. So, yeah, you
Speaker 3: may be out of your mind, but it works.
Speaker 4: Well. Yeah, everyone says that anyway, But I think that
Speaker 4: I think that this is just an easier way to play.
Speaker 4: It's not the only way to play. You can be
Speaker 4: a handfer. You can fan that club open and close
Speaker 4: it on the dollsling if you choose. You just you
Speaker 4: just weigh all your way to the right and try
Speaker 4: to get it all going back to the left. You
Speaker 4: can do that too, It's been done. I only say
Speaker 4: that I say this confidently. This is an easier way
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Next time we get together, I want to talk about
Speaker 3: your tempo and the swing rhythm, and I want to
Speaker 3: talk about ballflight. We've never really talked about ballflight. I'd
Speaker 3: like to get your theories and ideas on that. But
Speaker 3: also my friends and I, you know, we travel every year,
Speaker 3: and you and I talked about this before, but I'm
Speaker 3: going to throw this out here right now. So we're
Speaker 3: talking about coming down to the Palm Springs area next
Speaker 3: April twenty thirteen and on. I want you to put
Speaker 3: on your calendar right now the morning of April sixth,
Speaker 3: Saturday morning. I'm hoping that you're available that you can
Speaker 3: meet with me and my three buddies. And I'm going
Speaker 3: to throw this out here to the Golf Smarter audience.
Speaker 2: If you want to be Tony. Do you do clinics?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sure, okay, So Monday is Saturday morning, April sixth, twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3: If you have any interest in joining Tony Manzoni and
Speaker 3: myself on a one maybe two hour clinic, a Golf
Speaker 3: Smarter clinic one on one with Tony, you start sending
Speaker 3: me emails you let me know if your calendar. I'm
Speaker 3: giving you a year to think about this, right, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to keep mentioning it. I'm just going to
Speaker 3: throw it out here this one time, and maybe Tony
Speaker 3: Will will get something together and bring a group of
Speaker 3: people instead of just my foursome.
Speaker 4: That would be great fun, I really would do. It
Speaker 4: would be great fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Because I know that some people, some Golf Smarter Listeners,
Speaker 3: have traveled across the United States to come and have
Speaker 3: one on one sessions with you.
Speaker 4: Yes they have. I've had a ton of them, and
Speaker 4: as far away as New York. And there's a one
Speaker 4: fellow in France that is coming down on late.
Speaker 2: And he's a Golf Smarter listener.
Speaker 4: He's a Golf Smarter listener.
Speaker 2: Wow, in France. How cool is that?
Speaker 4: I Well, you know, when I first did the first
Speaker 4: interview with you, I thought this was a sum in
Speaker 4: cal kind of a deal, and I had no idea
Speaker 4: that you were worldwide. And I started getting emails from
Speaker 4: people from Switzerland and I heard of the golf maner
Speaker 4: blah blah blah, not what in the heck?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you know you were thinking radio when the
Speaker 3: first time we talked, and I think it was about
Speaker 3: the shot watch, right, it was shot watch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was about shot watch. That's exactly right. So
Speaker 4: I had no idea. You know how important you're You're
Speaker 4: what you're doing is I mean, it's fantastic.
Speaker 3: Really, I don't know that important. I'm just saying that
Speaker 3: it's important. No, we have a we have a far
Speaker 3: reach because we're on the internet. You know, it's it's
Speaker 3: a global idea. I don't know if it's important, but
Speaker 3: what you're saying is important. I'm just giving you the soapbox.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean fellows like me that that have something
Speaker 4: to say about the golf swing, you know, whether you
Speaker 4: whether you agree or not. At least it's an opinion,
Speaker 4: that's all there, and it's people thinking. And how would
Speaker 4: I do that if it wasn't for your company? You know,
Speaker 4: I'm surely not a household name in golf. I mean,
Speaker 4: you should be family.
Speaker 2: But we don't want to hear what they.
Speaker 3: Say about you at home, all right, So let's let
Speaker 3: everybody know. Now, please come to golf smarter dot com
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Speaker 3: I think the United States it's like five bucks or something.
Speaker 3: But so the book is twenty dollars now. The DVD
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Speaker 2: And the DVD is.
Speaker 3: Well, you say, twenty nine ninety five thirty dollars plus
Speaker 3: the shipping. And the shipping comes from Tony, not for me,
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Speaker 2: Tony Manzoni, you are a hero, my friend.
Speaker 3: I really enjoy talking to you and you are coming
Speaker 3: back soon right.
Speaker 4: We're not sure.
Speaker 3: You may be back in next episode or two weeks,
Speaker 3: but we can't record anything today but because our schedules
Speaker 3: won't allow. But we will get you back on very
Speaker 3: soon because I still have more questions.
Speaker 4: fALS great to me, Tony, and thank you so much
Speaker 4: for the opportunity to tell you what might series are about.
Speaker 4: It also