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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Fred Green of Golf Smarter with our

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spring back into Golf season with the late Tony Manzoni.

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In previous years of replaying these episodes as part of

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our archived content, we kept it to a hand picked

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selection of nine. But this time and for the future,

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because of your response, we're going to feature every episode

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in order that Tony discussed his single pivot swing method,

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his incredible College of the Desert Golf Team's success, his

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book and video, and stories about his relationship with the

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rich and famous from Palm Springs, including the godfather of

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his daughter, Frank Sinatra. Last episode from July twenty eleven

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was just after he released his book The Loss Fundamental,

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One Simple Move, Better Golf Forever. We recorded this just

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after his video of the same name was published on DVD.

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After he passed away in twenty eighteen, both the book

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and the DVD were out of so we were instrumental

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in getting his widow to agree to republish the book

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on Amazon, including the Kindle format, and allowing us to

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distribute the video online. All this was with the promise

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to create a tax deductible fund created in his memory

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to benefit the first t of Coachella Valley. For more

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on Tony and everything we were able to find on him,

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please go to Golfsmarter dot com. If you'd like access

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to the video, please write to me directly golf Smarter

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podcast at gmail dot com, or click on the Heyfred

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button when you visit golfsmarter dot com.

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Speaker 2: For members only.

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Speaker 3: Golf Smarter number three hundred and twenty eight published on

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April tenh twenty twelve. Stop Topping the Ball Forever with

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Tony Mantoni.

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Speaker 4: This is golf.

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Speaker 1: Smarter sharing tips and insights from golfers and golf professionals

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to help lower your score. It's worked for your host, Fred.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to golf Smarter for members only. Tony.

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Speaker 4: How you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well and I'm so glad to have you

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back on the show. You are such a fan favorite,

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a listener favorite on golf Smarter. I'm just so pleased

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that you've gotten such nice reaction from the Golf Smarter audience.

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Speaker 4: Well, I do appreciate that, Fred, And you know this

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is a labor of love for me and I'm sure

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it is for YouTube. Oh yeah. We have a passion

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about golf and golf instruction and you know, I'm just

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trying to get something out there that helps people. It's

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not an ego basis. I've done a lot of reading

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and I believe every day that I listen to people teach,

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I learned something and I'm just trying to get this

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down to where it's great for the consumer, that they

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can understand it and do it well.

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Speaker 3: That's what's so special about your teaching is that you

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are able to communicate it in a fashion that the average,

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the average golfer, the just the lay person understands what

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you're saying. And it's not so technical, but it is concise.

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And I think that that also is true to a

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testimony to how well your teams do at College of

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the Desert.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we do have a great record, and we're off

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to a good start again with four and zero in

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league playing and we've played three in vacationals one, two

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and and that was the second place in one, so

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we're off and running. We're going after our twenty fourth

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consecutive year to win the conference, which is kind of crazy,

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but yeah, it is what it is. And you know,

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we have a new team every two years, so it's

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not like we have this dynasty that we're building here.

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doesn't hurt. So we draw some nice young men and

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so far we've been lucky. Keep drawing them and we're

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saying the right things and they're producing.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what's so interesting is you say that these

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these kids only play for two years.

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Speaker 2: What age are your team members? What are they raised?

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Speaker 4: Right out of high school? You know, it's eighteen nineteen

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years old, So they're all yet man, and they all

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have a dream of, you know, playing this game professionally,

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they all can make it. We show them the work

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Speaker 4: How old are you again, I'm seventy five.

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Speaker 3: You're seventy five, and you're dealing with eighteen and nineteen

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year old which could easily be grandchildren or even great

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no question about that. Yeah, And I love it, I

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really do. I learned from them in some ways. It

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and staying segments. So it's a win win for both

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that you're a ability to communicate with eighteen and nineteen

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year olds and clearly to have going on your twenty

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fourth consecutive regional championship, you must be doing something to

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gain their respect, to not have attitude from these kids,

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because that's an age where they can really have a

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lot of attitude when they come in and tell you that,

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's not easy at times. I'm not

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going to say that it's always simple. We get a

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few kids. But you know, as I tell all the

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boys on my team, I don't care if you're a

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plus five. If you're a jerk and you want to

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stay a jerk, then you're not going to be part

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of my team because winning championships is important, but a

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billion character is much more important. And that's what I'm

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really here for. A lot of these young people haven't

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majority of them are going to go on to work

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in the golf business or do something, and it's my

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responsibility to show them what they need to do to

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their music, but they're not crazy about Frank Sinatra either.

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Speaker 2: So they have a lot to learn.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'll tell you something.

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for you to appreciate their music, because I know when

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how cool he was. I'm like, oh my gosh, you're kidding. Really,

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see that it's a determ from them and people are

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going to misjudge them. But where their pants down and

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all that sag and stuff, And I don't want to

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they're projecting and how that hurts them financially and also

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people draw conclusions about them that aren't true, and a

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little by little by little bartipulate way and just trying

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to make sense without saying don't it starts changing and

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Speaker 3: For the better.

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Speaker 2: That's a nice approach.

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Speaker 4: I tell them you got choices in life. You can

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be common or you can be special, and I really

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really hope you choose specially. And when you talk like that,

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their eyes open up a little bit, you know, so

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Speaker 3: Well, that was a great piece of That's a great

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golf tip right there for any parent and any teacher.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a great piece of advice. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Well, as we dole out these congratulations, let me also

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throw out that the DVD, the Lost Fundamental DVD has

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been created, published and released and It will be available

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on the Golf Smarter website. Thank you very much, as

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well as the loost Fundamental dot com. Talk to me

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about your new DVD, The Lost Fundamental, that supports the

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book The Lost Fundamental, One Simple Move, Better Golf Forever.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was lucky enough to meet the young man

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by the Adrian Hertze, and he really helped me put

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this together. When we're trying to do a DVD, it's

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your point across, so we edit it down to her.

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It's almost almost too simple, but that's the way I

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effective if people watch it. You have to watch it

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a couple of times. Is the only downside to it.

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You realize how old I really am. I've got a

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young voice. But anyway, all kidding aside, I'm very happy

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with the DVD. It's just a reflection of the book

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Speaker 3: Tell me about where you start on the DV. Well,

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how is the DVD different than the book.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's just visual. The concept is there. It's the

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same it's the same concept. But you see I use

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three different age groups and teach them basically the same thing.

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what I primarily say is, look, this works for everybody,

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and this is an easy way to play the game.

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the message. And I promise you that if you look

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at so many of the young players on tour, they're

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they're staying centered over that golf ball. They're not moving

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their head to the right anymore. Uh. And and and

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it's not something new, it's something that they're going they're

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going back to. It's what It's what Hogan did, It's

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what Nicholas did, it's what Palmer did, it's what Trevino did.

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their careers lasted a long time. As we hit a

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certain age, it's really hard to move off the ball

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it's really hard to do that. It's it's it's doable,

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what that's what my DVD's But you can actually see

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the person doing this, and that's that's the proof of

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Speaker 4: Right. It's just you know, there's been some great players,

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Curtis Strang, who's a big swayer off the ball. There's

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some great players that were but I don't think you

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then they say, well, I guess I'm getting older and

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I can't hit anywhere. Well, you can't hit anywhere with

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your arms, but if you learn how to use your

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core properly and get your body in the right position

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relative to the ball and impact, you can hit it

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a lot farther than you think you can. And that's

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people that are fifty sixty seven, even eighty six years

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old taking a lesson from me, and he claims is

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farther than he did when he was twenty and twenty

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photographs of us at the end of the weekend. I

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Speaker 3: Really tough time hitting the ball farther than one hundred

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and fifty hundred and sixty yards. And I notice that

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not only is he most of his weight is on

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his back foot throughout the swing and definitely at the

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end of his swing, but he also does not help

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me on this one. He doesn't pivot his back foot

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at all. He's right handed, so it's his right foot.

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But when he's done with the swing, not only is

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he leaning far back, but his right foot, his back

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foot is still pointed to where the ball was tied up.

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Speaker 4: Sure, sure, and as it must be, because if you

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put any any weight at all on the right side

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and then try to turn your body left or it

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has to go gets stuck. And and I'll tell you

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put a lot of pressure on your lower back. So

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for the listeners out there that are doing that, just

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put all your weight on your left foot to lift

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your heel of your right foot off off the ground

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so that you're just on the till and barely weight there.

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And then just turn your chest and shoulders. You'll see

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that you can turn left quide a ways. Then if

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you put some weight on that right foot, try the

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same thing and you'll see that you'll stop midweight. And

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that's where most people are, so they don't get the

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full force of the body driving through that golf ball. Actually,

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a good boxer, you know, it isn't in our motion.

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It's a body motion, and and everything throwing the ball,

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whatever the body has to be, has to be in

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position for the throw. It has to be in position

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for the punch. So if it's not a position you're

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going to, it's going to be a weak motion. And

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that's what this is all about. I'm not trying to

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reinvent the wheel here and then Holding discover this as

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have a lot of players. But the closer you're the

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center of gravity of the body is about four or

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five inches below the naval The closer that center of

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gravity is during the backswing to a pivot lake, the

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faster you're gonna pivot, and the freer you're gonna pivot.

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That's just that's just a scientific fact. That's not that's

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not Tony Manzoni's theory or anybody else's theory. That's just

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how it is. And Holding the smart enough to discover this.

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In a book called Maximum Gulf Uh with one of

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his students, John Sleeve, he said, I find that the

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more I'm on the left side of the top of

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the slane, I can pivot my shoulders faster on my

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left my left axis, consequently hitting the ball farther. So

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Hogan made the statement a often time ago. It's just

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that there's as so many people caught this thing. Well,

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isn't that reverse weightship? No? I had nothing to do

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with reverse wayship reverse weight ships is on the on

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the dolls wing where your body is going backwards towards

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the right foot. You can put all the weight you

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want on the left side at the top as long

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as you move forward with the second move. So you know,

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I mean, you know, when you try to hit the

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ball low, you're you're moving forward, then the club closes

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a little bit. Well, in a sense, we're just centering

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ourselves on the golf ball instead of putting our heads

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behind the golf ball, and we make contact as we're

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turning through the ball. We're not We're not making contact

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as we face the ball. We're making contact as our

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body has rotated towards the target. If you think about

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Alaka Sorensen, she had only one of the best moves

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I've ever seen except for Hogan, because she looked like

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she was looking at the target when she hit the ball.

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But that just because she was moving through prior to impact,

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and that's where all that power came from.

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Speaker 3: At the very beginning of this answer, you mentioned lifting

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the heel of your right foot. Now, is that just

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as a test or in your setup, as a.

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Speaker 4: Test as a test, but one of the things that

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I do to ensure. As I put my right foot,

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I kicked my knee in and I put I really

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feel my weight on the inside edge of my right foot,

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and as I coil, I try not to gather any

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more weight than that position. And then when my hip

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turns behind me, my shoulder turns behind me, I'm actually

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displacing weight more towards the left side. If I was

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in a cylinder and I turned my right shoulder, my

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weight would be going towards my left side. There's no

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question about that, and no one could argue with that.

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And so what I'm doing is I'm bracing between the

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instep of the right foot and and the and the

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instep of the left foot. So I embraced there, but

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primarily the majority of my weight is left, okay, because

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that's where I have to have that impact. So I'm

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just kind of cheating a little bit. I'm getting it

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over there sooner. See. Now, all I have to do

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is to rotate hard rotator around that axis and the

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club head comes the last. My body is first and

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I get I get terrific compression on the ball. You know,

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for our old guy, I can still hit the ball.

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They're pretty good. Uh, shockingly Uh. And I'm certainly not

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a physical specimen, but I'm in the position to hit

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it as destiny with as much power that I have.

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And I think everybody out there probably hasn't reached that

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position unless they've read my book and been practicing. Uh.

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If they're in the middle of their stands or on

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that right side where they're hitting the golf ball in,

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there's no way that they're compressing the golf ball like

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they can.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And then of course there's the the sweeping of the

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ball versus the compress of the ball, you know, or

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trying to lift the ball. That's the other thing I

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found that the same player did. Not only is he

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not turning, but he's with all that weight going backwards.

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It looks as if he's trying to lift the ball.

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He's not letting the club do its job well.

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Speaker 4: With your way going backwards, your arms skill only goes

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so far and then they start going up. So, as

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I tell people, when you hit a ball fat or

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he hit the ball thin, it's because you're behind the ball.

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That's that's the reason. I mean, you know, it shows

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itself in a different forms, but you're behind the ball.

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When you're loving through the ball, the club is still

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it's actually shallowing out. But when you stay way behind it,

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the club that is going up, it has to go

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up because your center of your swing is a foot

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or two behind that golf ball. So so the forward

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arc starts way too early. And that's why a lot

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of people can't get an iron in the air because

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they're too far behind the ball.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, actually, now that we're going to cont I

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know this friend is not listening to this, so I'm

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going to keep in. I'm not even to use his name,

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So I'm going to keep talking about this because I

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noticed so many things after talking with you so many times.

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I'm now looking at at other people so differently than

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I had in the past, because basically I wasn't looking

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at them, I was looking at their ball. But he

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tops the ball a lot, I mean, there's there. It's

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frequent that the ball is rolling off off the tee.

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Speaker 2: I mean he rarely.

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Speaker 3: We get all excited when he hits the ball in

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the air. Woo, great hit. Whether it goes right or left,

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it doesn't matter. It's like, oh you got it, you

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make great contact. Do you hit the ball in the air.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's two things that cause topping. I've always believed

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when people say you looked up, that's just infanity because

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nobody's looking up. But what if you tighten up prior

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to impact where everything stops. When you tighten your hands,

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and in the anticipation of impact, your arms pulled back,

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your muscles contract so the club comes up a little bit.

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That's one way to top it. That's how most people.

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I always tell people, you top it because you're tight,

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not look up.

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Speaker 2: But wait, and how how can we notice?

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Speaker 3: Because I noticed that he when he's about to hit

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the ball, even when he pulls his club back, his

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whole face just turns into as if he's he's trying

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to How do I be kind about that?

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Speaker 4: He's got to look it's because he's he's he has

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a hit thought. He's absolutely doing it perfect. He's telling

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his body that he's going to hit something. The body

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FLEs it up, getting ready for that blow. Uh. That's

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why everyone talks about swinging through the ball, swinging past

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the ball, using the ball as a point of reference

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to line line the body, but not not as a

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target once When you when you do that, your instincts

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are going to jump right in and you're going to

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tighten up your hands and you're going to do it now.

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Some great players can purposely try to hit it a

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little harder, but I promise you we've all done this.

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We take one more thub on a hole because we think, well,

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I'll hit an easy five instead of a six, and

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you blow it right over the green. Well, that's because

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you're swung. You were trying to hear anything. You're swinging smooth,

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so you're you get you get maximal flexibility to get

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maximum uh thrust. You get everything nothing scrolling down at impact.

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And when we topped the ball, it's an accelerating move. Uh.

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That's why I say when you when you stay behind

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the golf ball and you're gonna you're gonna you're never

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gonna get fairly loose up. I can tell you that

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you forget about hitting the three wood in the air.

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It's just not gonna happen. Uh. You've got to be

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moving through that golf ball so that club can shallow

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out and catch that ball a little bit on the down.

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If you're hanging back, it's that club's coming up too

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soon and you're gonna hit. You're gonna hit the middle

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or top of the ball.

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Speaker 3: So for somebody who's been playing the game for twenty

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thirty years and has all these issues, it's not going

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to be very easy for them to make some some

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changes into their swing, into their into their basic mechanics.

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And I don't did after all lesson it's it's still

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he's going to forget it next in two weeks if

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he doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't really teach swing so much as I

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teach uh the relationship of the body to the golf ball.

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If I can get your body at address in the

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right position, and if I can get you to move

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your if you're right hand and get your right side

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past that ball prior to impact or at impact, I

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don't care what your hands do. If they're somewhat connected

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to the body there to they're going to react on

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their own. You can't purposely square the club of your hands.

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And that's just crazy. I get these guys say your

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risk has to be flat at impact. That's that's because

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of momentum. You can't put them there. The club's moving

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seventy eighty miles an hour depending on how strong you are.

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There's no way to do that. But if your body's

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in the right position, that will happen. You know, there's

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if you're rotating through that golf ball and you're and

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that club has last and your hands are going to

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be your hands are going to be flat in impact,

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they're not going to be cuffed. But once you stop

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that body, then the momentum of the arms going forward

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are going to cut the wrist. That's why that happens.

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It's just that people don't go through the ball. When

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you're hanging a golf ball, you have few mind. Has

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to be a position A, position B, and the balls

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in the way of you going to those positions. If

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you target the golf ball, you're never going to get

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the position B. And consequently you're going to cup your wrist,

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You're going to swing up prematurely, you're going to hang back.

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All those things are going to happen just because you

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didn't get through the ball. I mean, I have women

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that I teach and I say, look, when you get

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at the top of the swing, oh, I want you

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to do one thing. Get past the ball with a

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turning motion. And they're always so shocked when they see

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they hit so much farther and hit the ball up

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in the air. But that's I mean, that's that's the

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core thing here that has to happen. No matter what

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you do with your hands at the top of your swing,

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they can be cup flat. I don't I don't care

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about that doesn't mean anything. Then a cup wrist at

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the top tier with his flat wrist, who cares? What

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matters is at the bottom. And the only way you're

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going to go through impact properly is that the big

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muscles have to be pulled in the little muscles. Once

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the big muscles stopped and the little muscles move forward,

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all hell breaks loose. I'll let you're lucky you time it,

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you know, And you hear more and more players talking

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about I want to eliminate the timing action of the

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golf swing because there's just too much pressure out there.

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You can't get it out there and be timing the

477
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rolling of your hands and things like that. And that's

478
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been taught for years. I mean, that's how I was

479
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taught to play. You can't do that now now if

480
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you're going to play at that level.

481
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Speaker 3: On our third and last round of the weekend, in

482
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the back nine, he was my friend was so frustrated.

483
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Speaker 2: He said, what am I what am I doing? What

484
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can I do?

485
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Speaker 3: I keep, you know, rolling the ball, and I'm like,

486
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are you asking me for advice? Because I kept my

487
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mouth shut all weekend and I'll be And all I

488
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said was, try.

489
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Speaker 2: Moving the ball back about an inch in your stands.

490
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Speaker 3: Just move the ball back a little bit and see

491
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what happens. Because if you're continuing to hit the ball,

492
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that must mean that you're you're you're you're on your

493
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upswing a little too early. Because I didn't want to

494
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say yeah, because you're leaning on your back foot because

495
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you're getting no rotation, because in the middle of a round.

496
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Speaker 2: That's not going to help.

497
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's no way to do.

498
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Speaker 2: So I just said, just move the ball back and

499
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see what happens.

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Speaker 3: And his next three shots were the best shots of

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the weekend.

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Speaker 2: And he kind of looked at me, like, what where.

503
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Speaker 4: What the essence? In essence, you move he moves his

504
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head more forward by moving the ball back. You see

505
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what I mean, I'm moving the ball back in the stands.

506
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The head position now is more forward of the ball

507
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than it was when the ball was forward. So in essence,

508
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you did kind.

509
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Speaker 2: Of that hmm. Interesting, And I didn't even know I

510
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did that.

511
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what that's what you did, you.

512
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Speaker 2: See, because I read the Lost Fundamental.

513
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Speaker 4: Well, look, you know absolutely notall. There's a lot there's

514
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a lot of great teachers out there, but I know

515
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that this concept is is based in the science, and

516
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I know that when the body is in the right position,

517
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you can get your best. Everybody has a best. Some

518
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,119
of us are limited because we're not athletics, some of

519
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,720
us are weak, whatever, But everybody can play this game

520
00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:12,960
and everybody can enjoy it, and everybody can get the

521
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ball up in the air that has never been, that

522
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has never been. I've never had a lesson, and of

523
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thousands and thousands of lessons that I've give, I've never

524
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had anyone not be able to get it in the

525
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air once they understand what they're supposed to be.

526
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Speaker 2: Right, right? And what about is the hip rotation?

527
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Speaker 3: You know, as we get older, we get into our

528
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late fifties, our sixties, and god bless you in your seventies,

529
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the hip rotation. Some people just don't have that kind

530
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of flexibility. I don't know what kind of workout regimen

531
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that you have or if I have.

532
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Speaker 4: No flexibility, No, I don't do any of that. I

533
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don't have any flexibility. But when my weight is on

534
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my left access and I turn my chest left, my

535
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hips turn left. Everything works when my when the center

536
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,160
of my chest is to the right of my legs,

537
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like I was taught, take it back to put the

538
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stern them on top of the right leg. Okay, so

539
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,319
there's a leaning of the upper body back behind the

540
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,839
lower body. Then the legs have to go forward because

541
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the legs, the left hip has to align itself to

542
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the outside of the left footed impact. So there's that

543
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,920
little sliding move that you had to make. But with

544
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:27,440
this concept, what you're doing as you're coiling, as you're

545
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,319
turning in your backs, when you're actually putting, you're actually

546
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:35,680
getting to that position where you align that hip leg thing. Okay,

547
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:38,279
so now you have a forward access. Now all you

548
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do is turn the top around the axis. The lower

549
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:43,160
body works right with it. When you throw a ball.

550
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Did you ever think about shifting your legs or moving anything.

551
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I mean, your body, your top part is connect to

552
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the lower part. But if you chilt your top part

553
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over to the right, of course, the lower part has

554
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,960
to go forward to bring the top part back. But

555
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when you're more centered to the ball, you're I hate

556
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to use this word stacked, but you're stacked on top

557
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of each other. So if you turn, the top of

558
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the lower part turns too, as long as there isn't

559
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wait on the right foot, and again for the for

560
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the listeners, just stand up, put primarily most of your

561
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,640
weight on your right foot, and just take your left

562
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shoulder and turn it as left as you can. You'll

563
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see that you're hips and belly turn with it, so

564
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:25,759
you don't have to worry about hip rotation. See, And

565
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that's that's one of the beautiful things about this is

566
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that you can control. And in my video I show

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you that. I show you that when you're at the

568
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top of that position, all you have to do is

569
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just clear your chest. Everything else will turn with it,

570
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so you don't have to get your legs out ahead

571
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,240
of the you know, like say legs first, then top. No,

572
00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:46,279
you don't have to do that. So we're eliminating all

573
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these little timing things that we had to do. Hm.

574
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Speaker 3: I have so many more questions, but we don't have

575
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time today.

576
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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you, I.

577
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Speaker 4: Want to talk to the pros off, So I'm just

578
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,759
going to say. I'm sure there's some golf goes out

579
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:05,440
there that are saying that guy's nuts, But all I

580
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,559
asked you to do is try it.

581
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Speaker 2: Okay, well you're not.

582
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Speaker 4: You know.

583
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: I came out there last year with a friend of

584
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,559
mine and you spent an hour with him.

585
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Speaker 2: And the video is up on YouTube.

586
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:19,759
Speaker 3: It's on the golf Smarter TV channel of your you know,

587
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,559
the highlights of the lesson that you gave my friend Neil.

588
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And I'm telling you, ever since that lesson, he has

589
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,599
been a maniac on the golf course. He says that

590
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,799
he continues to do what you taught him in less

591
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:35,319
than an hour, and his game has just gotten so

592
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,079
much better. He's so much more confident. So, yeah, you

593
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,599
may be out of your mind, but it works.

594
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 4: Well. Yeah, everyone says that anyway, But I think that

595
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,039
I think that this is just an easier way to play.

596
00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:52,039
It's not the only way to play. You can be

597
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:54,119
a handfer. You can fan that club open and close

598
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,799
it on the dollsling if you choose. You just you

599
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,599
just weigh all your way to the right and try

600
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to get it all going back to the left. You

601
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,559
can do that too, It's been done. I only say

602
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,880
that I say this confidently. This is an easier way

603
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,319
to do it.

604
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: Well.

605
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Speaker 3: Next time we get together, I want to talk about

606
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:14,000
your tempo and the swing rhythm, and I want to

607
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,559
talk about ballflight. We've never really talked about ballflight. I'd

608
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,160
like to get your theories and ideas on that. But

609
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,359
also my friends and I, you know, we travel every year,

610
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and you and I talked about this before, but I'm

611
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,519
going to throw this out here right now. So we're

612
00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:33,079
talking about coming down to the Palm Springs area next

613
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:39,480
April twenty thirteen and on. I want you to put

614
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,599
on your calendar right now the morning of April sixth,

615
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,240
Saturday morning. I'm hoping that you're available that you can

616
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:51,039
meet with me and my three buddies. And I'm going

617
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to throw this out here to the Golf Smarter audience.

618
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Speaker 2: If you want to be Tony. Do you do clinics?

619
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

620
00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:02,559
Speaker 3: Sure, okay, So Monday is Saturday morning, April sixth, twenty thirteen.

621
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If you have any interest in joining Tony Manzoni and

622
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,359
myself on a one maybe two hour clinic, a Golf

623
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:16,160
Smarter clinic one on one with Tony, you start sending

624
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,440
me emails you let me know if your calendar. I'm

625
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,000
giving you a year to think about this, right, I'm

626
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:22,599
not going to keep mentioning it. I'm just going to

627
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,839
throw it out here this one time, and maybe Tony

628
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,880
Will will get something together and bring a group of

629
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people instead of just my foursome.

630
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Speaker 4: That would be great fun, I really would do. It

631
00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:33,599
would be great fun.

632
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a lot of fun.

633
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Speaker 3: Because I know that some people, some Golf Smarter Listeners,

634
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,559
have traveled across the United States to come and have

635
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,799
one on one sessions with you.

636
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:47,079
Speaker 4: Yes they have. I've had a ton of them, and

637
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,839
as far away as New York. And there's a one

638
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,960
fellow in France that is coming down on late.

639
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,559
Speaker 2: And he's a Golf Smarter listener.

640
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: He's a Golf Smarter listener.

641
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,119
Speaker 2: Wow, in France. How cool is that?

642
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: I Well, you know, when I first did the first

643
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:06,799
interview with you, I thought this was a sum in

644
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,200
cal kind of a deal, and I had no idea

645
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,960
that you were worldwide. And I started getting emails from

646
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,640
people from Switzerland and I heard of the golf maner

647
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,599
blah blah blah, not what in the heck?

648
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,599
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you know you were thinking radio when the

649
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,359
first time we talked, and I think it was about

650
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:25,240
the shot watch, right, it was shot watch.

651
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was about shot watch. That's exactly right. So

652
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,839
I had no idea. You know how important you're You're

653
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,519
what you're doing is I mean, it's fantastic.

654
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: Really, I don't know that important. I'm just saying that

655
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,519
it's important. No, we have a we have a far

656
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,000
reach because we're on the internet. You know, it's it's

657
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:45,839
a global idea. I don't know if it's important, but

658
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,279
what you're saying is important. I'm just giving you the soapbox.

659
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: Well, I mean fellows like me that that have something

660
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,440
to say about the golf swing, you know, whether you

661
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,880
whether you agree or not. At least it's an opinion,

662
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,440
that's all there, and it's people thinking. And how would

663
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,359
I do that if it wasn't for your company? You know,

664
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,039
I'm surely not a household name in golf. I mean,

665
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:10,759
you should be family.

666
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: But we don't want to hear what they.

667
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: Say about you at home, all right, So let's let

668
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:23,240
everybody know. Now, please come to golf smarter dot com

669
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,599
and pick up if you haven't already picked up Tony's book,

670
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The Lost Fundamental One simple move better Golf Forever. You're

671
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one of the few who have not in the Golf

672
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Smarter audience. The book is only twenty dollars and plus shipping.

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Now we have to mention that they're shipping different shipping

674
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fees for overseas, for Canada and for the United States.

675
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I think the United States it's like five bucks or something.

676
00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:51,119
But so the book is twenty dollars now. The DVD

677
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,039
is available again. It's only available at Golfsmarter dot com

678
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:59,640
or at the Loss Fundamental dot com. But you know

679
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,920
it's it's also lets Tony know where they're hearing about

680
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,960
it when you buy it from us.

681
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,559
Speaker 2: And the DVD is.

682
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:10,519
Speaker 3: Well, you say, twenty nine ninety five thirty dollars plus

683
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:14,360
the shipping. And the shipping comes from Tony, not for me,

684
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,599
but I just help him handle all the orders and

685
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,320
it's an easier way to come. So please come to

686
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,519
golf Smarter dot com and go into the golfers mart

687
00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:29,199
there and pick up one or both of Tony's latest

688
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contributions to your game improvement, The Loss Fundamental.

689
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Speaker 2: Tony Manzoni, you are a hero, my friend.

690
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Speaker 3: I really enjoy talking to you and you are coming

691
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,480
back soon right.

692
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Speaker 4: We're not sure.

693
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Speaker 3: You may be back in next episode or two weeks,

694
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but we can't record anything today but because our schedules

695
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,039
won't allow. But we will get you back on very

696
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:54,519
soon because I still have more questions.

697
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Speaker 4: fALS great to me, Tony, and thank you so much

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for the opportunity to tell you what might series are about.

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