Speaker 1: Get ready.
Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, it's Valentine's Day, February fourteen, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar, and
Speaker 2: it is Frisday or Friday Night to most of you,
Speaker 2: and therefore it is time for the open mic, and
Speaker 2: that means you can call in and dictate the way
Speaker 2: the show goes. Now, I'm debating whether I should address
Speaker 2: the emails, the nasty emails I got this week. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I should, but I'll get to it
Speaker 2: at some point. If I do, we're probably gonna have
Speaker 2: to mark this one explicit because I'm irritated. I'm irritated
Speaker 2: for exactly the reasons that I pointed out on The
Speaker 2: Richie Allen Show. Nobody wants analysis anymore last week. I'm
Speaker 2: not mad at p Pete or Jimmy James. I know
Speaker 2: where they got their information from. And even Elon Musk
Speaker 2: had to walk back this week the whole thing about
Speaker 2: condoms going to Palestine. Fox News is correcting it. But
Speaker 2: I was an idiot, I know anyway. Like I said,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll get to that later, but it is what
Speaker 2: it is. And also me and uncle and a guy
Speaker 2: from Canada who has no idea what football is picked
Speaker 2: the Eagles to win the Super Bowl too, So I
Speaker 2: don't expect to get paid for the dollars that we've
Speaker 2: been put out for the Bets. I know Jimmy, okay,
Speaker 2: because he's good like that, but everybody else I don't
Speaker 2: even expect to see it.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, who did Jimmy have.
Speaker 2: Jimmy picked the Chiefs? I think, oh man, I can't
Speaker 2: believe that. Yeah, but that was the funny thing is
Speaker 2: I let everybody else like, go now, Chiefs got it,
Speaker 2: you know, And I said, okay, oh man.
Speaker 4: After I saw the officiating and the Chiefs Bills game
Speaker 4: and they gave them two chances to score and win
Speaker 4: that game, I said, that's it. I got to pull
Speaker 4: for the Eagles on this. So, plus the Eagles had
Speaker 4: to revenge factor.
Speaker 2: Well, I like the underdog. I always liked the underdog.
Speaker 2: As I've stated on this show before, I I, you know,
Speaker 2: bet on the freaking Bills like four times in a row.
Speaker 4: Hey, I will tell you honest though, if you had
Speaker 4: looked at the way they played through the playoffs and
Speaker 4: the last games of the regular season, yeah, I would.
Speaker 3: Have thought Kansas City would have been the underdog.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know they're the reigning champ, but the
Speaker 4: Eagles were kick ass the last four games they played.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the Mahomes factor. I mean, the points
Speaker 2: spread was low. I took a look at all that,
Speaker 2: you know, because I know how to read those.
Speaker 3: Into points spreads low it's a blowout one way or
Speaker 3: the other.
Speaker 2: Well that's what I figured. But I said to myself,
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't care because usually I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you it's almost a good bet. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's a let's see the third time now in my
Speaker 2: entire life, I picked a Super Bowl correctly, okay, and
Speaker 2: and I've been picking them since what like seventy nine
Speaker 2: or eighty. Anyway, me Uncle and Robin from Canada, who
Speaker 2: was like what team? Which team? Where are they from?
Speaker 2: You had no idea. This is who selected to choose
Speaker 2: the Eagles in this little group betting thing where it
Speaker 2: was like a dollar against everybody, right, So this is
Speaker 2: what we did on the Uncle Show last week, and
Speaker 2: it was everybody bets a dollar. So you know, nobody's
Speaker 2: gonna get hurt here, and you know you just got
Speaker 2: to honor it, right, And Robin's going well, you know,
Speaker 2: and then I made the jokes about Canadian dollar versus
Speaker 2: the you know, American dollar and it's going to be
Speaker 2: lower and this and that whatever. But now Robin is
Speaker 2: entitled to, you know, dollars from like it's three guys
Speaker 2: or four guys on one side and three guys on
Speaker 2: the other side, and everybody has a dollar against everybody else.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you owe us because we picked the Eagles, period.
Speaker 2: So there's that, and that that rubbers for Palestine thing.
Speaker 2: You did see that get directed this week, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Was listening to the show live and I saw it
Speaker 3: got corrected.
Speaker 4: But you know, there's some caveats in there that need
Speaker 4: to be explained.
Speaker 2: Okay, look fair enough. But my whole point was that
Speaker 2: when I went to it, be Pete, honestly, and I'm
Speaker 2: not mad at you, and I'm not mad at Jimmy
Speaker 2: for standing on that side, because at that time you're
Speaker 2: working off a certain reporting. But what makes me angry.
Speaker 3: Yes, well wait, wait, wait wait a minute.
Speaker 4: Not only working off certain reporting that's here recent, but
Speaker 4: these things were showing up in videos back in two
Speaker 4: thousand and eight, two thousand and.
Speaker 3: Nine of where they were finding them in.
Speaker 4: Like fields they were trying to set on fire and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. So it's been an ongoing thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but here's the this recent thing that came out. They
Speaker 4: said that there was what fifty million set aside for this,
Speaker 4: and come to find out there was. There's a there
Speaker 4: was one hundred million set aside for support. Half of
Speaker 4: it was to be used for prenatal care and and ah,
Speaker 4: well they call it now but see okay, but anyway,
Speaker 4: but points where the divide. That's where the fifty mil
Speaker 4: came from.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: They just made the comment that it was all for
Speaker 4: condoms and it wasn't. Well, here's nothing was even set
Speaker 4: aside for condoms, exactly, nothing except a small bit in
Speaker 4: there for health reasons in which contraceptives and a bunch
Speaker 4: of other stuff were included.
Speaker 2: Okay, see that's the thought. Okay, so that's what you see. Fine,
Speaker 2: that's why I said, I don't even want to argue.
Speaker 4: That's not what I see. That's what it is. That's
Speaker 4: how the reporting came about. That's why the corrections are
Speaker 4: being Screw the report, because.
Speaker 2: I gave the Okay, but I'm angry about this because
Speaker 2: screw the reporting. I'm getting real tired of whatever the
Speaker 2: right wing pushes out. This is what it is. Look.
Speaker 2: I dug into this and tried to find the program, okay.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see if it was publicly available, and
Speaker 2: in fact even messaged Elon Musk on x okay and said, dude,
Speaker 2: there is no publicly available document that shows this amount
Speaker 2: of money going to condoms for Palestine. It doesn't exist
Speaker 2: as far as I can see. Now, perhaps you can
Speaker 2: see something I can't. I message Elon Musk all the
Speaker 2: time and even tweet at him like an idiot, because
Speaker 2: one of these days I'm gonna get a bullet in
Speaker 2: ahead you watch, okay, But whatever I message to him,
Speaker 2: because I can and I did, and I'm telling you
Speaker 2: all I could see publicly available is there is no
Speaker 2: fifty million dollar thing for condoms. What I saw when
Speaker 2: I dug into it, not because I believe anybody's reporting,
Speaker 2: but because I actually did research, you see, which is
Speaker 2: what makes me angry. I did research which showed me
Speaker 2: that actually there was a sixty million dollar program, okay,
Speaker 2: that was there for that kind of health stuff, like
Speaker 2: you said, the prenatal care, this kind of thing. No
Speaker 2: condoms that I could see were laid out specific in
Speaker 2: any of the allotments that I could see. Now, I
Speaker 2: did research on that.
Speaker 3: What I read said contraception was a part of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not condoms, that's the thing. It's not condoms.
Speaker 4: Okay, how do you know contraception includes the pill condoms?
Speaker 2: Because that's okay, Well, I'm trying to tell you if
Speaker 2: you hang on me, and this is what made me
Speaker 2: angry about these idiots jumping all over me. And okay,
Speaker 2: if you want to argue, we can argue. But here's
Speaker 2: what I saw. It is not specifically noted that condoms
Speaker 2: are part of it. There are other things there, other
Speaker 2: things that go on, and yes, contraception could be a
Speaker 2: lot of different things. Could be spermicides, it could be uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I I I uds, whatever they call them.
Speaker 2: It could be those nor plants, could be one hundred things.
Speaker 2: But guess what. There is no specific thing that says
Speaker 2: we're buying condoms for these people. Okay, that's what I saw.
Speaker 2: No speci note for condoms. Not that it is impossible,
Speaker 2: it's just that publicly what is available according to what's
Speaker 2: being allotted for Palestine, there's no condoms. Okay, that's all
Speaker 2: I'm saying, and I couldn't get that out, not at all.
Speaker 2: And then I tried to attack it from a different
Speaker 2: angle with you.
Speaker 3: What do you mean you couldn't get it out?
Speaker 2: Well? Look, because exactly what just happened here, I didn't
Speaker 2: finish saying what I was saying, and you're like, hey,
Speaker 2: look this, this, this, it could be this.
Speaker 4: No, I'm trying to understand. I mean, when you make it,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry for cutting you off. I just clark tased
Speaker 4: all that. What do you mean you couldn't get it
Speaker 4: out or finish your statement and explain how you couldn't
Speaker 4: get it out?
Speaker 2: Well, I couldn't get it out because then we pivoted
Speaker 2: to the discussion of, in all seriousness, what are they
Speaker 2: going to do with condoms anyway? And then you talked
Speaker 2: about using them as balloons. Now I leave that alone, okay,
Speaker 2: because okay, you know what, technically speaking, you could use
Speaker 2: rubber for a lot of things. A matter of fact,
Speaker 2: you could take rubbers and turn them into rubber bullets
Speaker 2: if you like. I mean, there's lots of things you
Speaker 2: could repurpose condoms to do. I guess I've seen them
Speaker 2: used for other things outside of contraception. Sure, no problem, okay,
Speaker 2: but you.
Speaker 5: You need that point.
Speaker 3: Excuse me.
Speaker 4: Can you melt down a condom and make a bullet
Speaker 4: out of it?
Speaker 2: Yes, you can. I happen to know that you can.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 4: Look, well, I'll tell you what you've done more, You've
Speaker 4: done more research, and that it was okay.
Speaker 2: But the point is we ended up going in that direction.
Speaker 2: And the next thing I knew is we were onto
Speaker 2: other stuff. But my point is I could not find
Speaker 2: verifiable evidence that what he was saying was real. And
Speaker 2: I found that he's saying fifty million, there was actually
Speaker 2: sixty million. Now you say you find reporting that there's
Speaker 2: one hundred million, Okay, maybe there is. I don't know.
Speaker 3: But what I saw one hundred million.
Speaker 4: Split fifty of it went towards like certain things, infrastructure
Speaker 4: prep like that. The other fifty went towards health care,
Speaker 4: you know, to all the okay, anything relating to healthcare
Speaker 4: that you know you're doing for refugees.
Speaker 2: Well, I narrowed it down to not stuff being reported.
Speaker 2: I went to the government documents, and you can, if
Speaker 2: you want to, you can take a look at all
Speaker 2: the stuff that goes through the Congress. You can take
Speaker 2: a look at everything that gets you know, greenlit. They
Speaker 2: have the purse strings. That's the way things work. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you can if you know where to look, and
Speaker 2: it's not just a simple Google search. And by the way,
Speaker 2: using the Google machine, it happens to answer to your biases. Okay,
Speaker 2: not just you, be Pete, I'm yelling at somebody else here. Okay.
Speaker 2: I understand where you got your information from, and I
Speaker 2: understand why you stuck to it. But my point is
Speaker 2: that even Musk has had to walk it back. Even
Speaker 2: Fox News now is correcting people who are still making
Speaker 2: that statement on their air.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, I agree with you, and you're gonna find
Speaker 4: over the next little bit.
Speaker 3: Musk is gonna have to walk back a lot.
Speaker 2: Of stuff, yes he is, including the fact that as
Speaker 2: we go to air, by the bye, as we go
Speaker 2: to air, he promised to show all the savings that
Speaker 2: he's come up with by Valentine's Day, and as we
Speaker 2: go to air, that page is still blank on the
Speaker 2: Doe's website, because you know there's a Doe's website, right,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, just checking.
Speaker 3: Look, well, I mean, Elon's not gonna do anything without
Speaker 3: a website.
Speaker 2: No, of course not. And and also he's not going
Speaker 2: to do anything without doing this crash and burn and
Speaker 2: you know, like like he just did with the nuclear
Speaker 2: stockpile people. I mean, let's just cut off all their jobs. Oops.
Speaker 2: You know, Congress is a little concerned because these people
Speaker 2: are actually watching over a nuclear weapons. Maybe don't fire
Speaker 2: all them right away. Let's let's let's be a little
Speaker 2: more careful about that. I get it, but I don't worry.
Speaker 3: We got Mark Milly to call China let him know
Speaker 3: it ain't real. Start pointed at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Point is that I'm just throwing up.
Speaker 2: I'm not even you know, it's not like I'm on
Speaker 2: the Democrat side here, which right away it's hard to
Speaker 2: see what their side is. But if you want to
Speaker 2: go look and figure out what the actual really because
Speaker 2: they're making less sense than ever be pete and throwing
Speaker 2: up absolutely no.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this. I understand. I listened to
Speaker 4: the show with you and Richie. I understand where you're
Speaker 4: coming from all this. What specifically, what was the beef
Speaker 4: with the individual in the email?
Speaker 3: Was it because you were I mean, what was there
Speaker 3: beef that you they didn't agree with you? That you.
Speaker 2: They just wanted to because all I do is get
Speaker 2: buried in Fox News and what is that other the
Speaker 2: Daily Caller And here's a link to this, here's a
Speaker 2: link to that. That's the truth, and I get buried
Speaker 2: in that, and I get buried in Your problem is
Speaker 2: you don't like Trump, which is not the problem here.
Speaker 2: The problem is.
Speaker 4: That that's what they're telling you, is you don't like Trump.
Speaker 2: That's my whole objection to anything anything I say.
Speaker 3: When I even turn around like Trump.
Speaker 2: But but look, the point is that you often go
Speaker 2: to the defense of his position on the show. And
Speaker 2: you know, like, I'm sure that if Jimmy's calling in,
Speaker 2: he's gonna he's gonna go to a defensive position on
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that the guy says and does.
Speaker 2: But also you know, I I also hold up the
Speaker 2: idea that when you finally see that something is complete bull,
Speaker 2: you're gonna turn around and say, look, it's bull. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm expecting that. But these people that are like on
Speaker 2: the defense for you, they don't get that part. They
Speaker 2: don't get that even when they're wrong, it's it's impossible
Speaker 2: for them to say, I'm finding it funny that even today.
Speaker 2: By the way, I love the headlines today, don't you
Speaker 2: love it? Making a deal with the with the mayor
Speaker 2: of New York? You loving that Eric Adams and the
Speaker 2: deal with the the Trump d oj. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: you want me to make my argument again for how
Speaker 2: there's only one party, because that's funny. That's a democratic
Speaker 2: mayor of New.
Speaker 3: York exactly the thing that I don't get.
Speaker 4: And I've seen a ton of it on Twitter today
Speaker 4: and every way pointing out you know, hey, they go
Speaker 4: to Scoton's letter, who was the one that resigned, and
Speaker 4: publish this letter that I'm seeing all over the place.
Speaker 4: And if you go down there and read, he talks about,
Speaker 4: you know, how this deal goes against everything that we
Speaker 4: stand for, and that he has a line in there.
Speaker 4: And I've been replying to a couple of people. All
Speaker 4: you have to do is make a two word edit. Well, yeah,
Speaker 4: two word edit, cross out two words and put one
Speaker 4: into his letter and it describes every plea agreement that's
Speaker 4: ever been entered in court.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the funny thing to me is I would
Speaker 2: start off with a lawyers telling me they stand for something.
Speaker 2: A lawyer exactly exact, thank you, you know, and and
Speaker 2: nobody uses it. But everything is about either you're rooting
Speaker 2: for my guy or you're rooting against my guy. That
Speaker 2: is all there is for people anymore. And I have
Speaker 2: watched you know, nobody wants any actual analysis. Nobody wants
Speaker 2: to dig into anything. Even a guy that I spoke
Speaker 2: to face to face today randomly, Okay, a guy happened
Speaker 2: to stop at my house for some unreasonable, stupid reason.
Speaker 2: But as he's checking in with me and I'm telling him,
Speaker 2: you know, I can't help him right now, he's walking
Speaker 2: away and he turns around. He goes, hey, aren't you
Speaker 2: happy all the all the JFK stuff is out? And
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, what what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: It's out.
Speaker 2: These people have assumed that it's just the the the
Speaker 2: Trump pumping supporter out there kills me because automatically he
Speaker 2: said it it's done now. I said, you know, I
Speaker 2: read the executive order, you know, And I tried to
Speaker 2: explain to the guy, I actually read the order, which
Speaker 2: none of them did. You want to see a funny
Speaker 2: look if somebody comes here and says, hey, I know
Speaker 2: you're interested in that, which I don't know how much
Speaker 2: you share with people you talk to, you know, work
Speaker 2: and stuff. But if you shared with them, you know,
Speaker 2: I actually care about that. At some point, if they
Speaker 2: come up to you and they're a Trump guy, they'll
Speaker 2: tell you, aren't you happy? He's doing a great thing right,
Speaker 2: or he's done a great thing already. He's already done,
Speaker 2: you know. And but here's the thing. I have the
Speaker 2: same skepticism, which by the way, didn't change when Biden
Speaker 2: was in office. I said, you know, when when everybody went, hey,
Speaker 2: Biden's coming in, isn't aren't you happy? That's good? No,
Speaker 2: because I know exactly what's going to go on, and
Speaker 2: it did predictable. Now the new thing is and I
Speaker 2: read this of God god awful substack from John Carracal.
Speaker 2: However you say his name, you know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 2: the guy who was penalized, which, by the way, to
Speaker 2: call in, and I do see I've got one caller already,
Speaker 2: but three one nine five two seven five zero one six.
Speaker 2: As soon as you're on hold for a couple of minutes,
Speaker 2: I will bring you on the show because I want
Speaker 2: to make sure you'll stay on the line. Three one
Speaker 2: nine five two seven five zero one six, that's the
Speaker 2: number to call in. But Carra cow is a guy
Speaker 2: who ended up going to going to jail actually, uh,
Speaker 2: being a whistleblower through the torture scandal. Okay, and he
Speaker 2: was a former CIA guy. To read his so called
Speaker 2: Everything's going to be good now, uh, you know, a
Speaker 2: pronouncement about you know, Trump and what's going on with
Speaker 2: the classification on the files. It's hilarious because the CIA
Speaker 2: guy clearly doesn't understand what he's talking about. And I
Speaker 2: find it funny because everybody's gonna take him very seriously.
Speaker 2: And I also got some credit in which I was
Speaker 2: waiting on too, and I know there's going to be
Speaker 2: more when they discover it. Over the you know Billy
Speaker 2: Celestis thing this.
Speaker 3: Week, right, Yeah, I've got to listen to that. I
Speaker 3: haven't had a chance to one yet.
Speaker 2: Okay. I had Billy Celestie's grandson on and he's been
Speaker 2: on AJ show already and and all that. He made
Speaker 2: the rounds kind of, but I got him, uh and
Speaker 2: had him on with Larry, which nobody else did, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, so that I had a good guy for
Speaker 2: context on this, right, and we went over this tape,
Speaker 2: you know, Cliff Carter talking to Billy Celesties about allegedly
Speaker 2: LBJ getting Mac Wallace to kill JFK okay, And it's
Speaker 2: not an AI tape and it's none of that. It's
Speaker 2: an old recording. Uh so far I can hear on
Speaker 2: the digital recording, the artifacts from where it came from,
Speaker 2: the limited information that he shared with me about what
Speaker 2: type of tape it was and everything else. Uh literally,
Speaker 2: because he had a transferred into digital now. And by
Speaker 2: the way, I'm gonna see if I can get him
Speaker 2: to speak at Lancer this year and play some more
Speaker 2: tape or the tape again whatever, not because I believe
Speaker 2: that LBJ did it, but because this is interesting in
Speaker 2: that a guy like Cliff Carter and a guy like
Speaker 2: Billy Celesties could be making this recording for various reasons.
Speaker 2: And by the way, I might have that discussion with
Speaker 2: Larry this coming week about why it is they might
Speaker 2: be saying that, you know, Lynnon had a bunch of
Speaker 2: people killed. There's two murders admitted to easily on that
Speaker 2: tape by these guys who are in Lynnon Johnson's inner
Speaker 2: circle at one point. Okay, so that's fascinating, especially because
Speaker 2: Billy Celestis always claimed to have this tape. But you
Speaker 2: had to take a lot of things, Billy Celestie said,
Speaker 2: with a grain of salt. Okay, but I brought it
Speaker 2: on to let this guy tell his story about the tape.
Speaker 2: And then he played the tape. And it's a bigger
Speaker 2: clip of the tape than is floating around on the
Speaker 2: internet for free. I don't know what AJ show had
Speaker 2: on exactly, because I can't listen to that guy, but
Speaker 2: but I do know that it was on the Alex
Speaker 2: Jones show. Okay, not too long ago, all right, Anyway,
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting and I think even if it
Speaker 2: just you know, shows more of the corruption of a
Speaker 2: guy like Linda Johnson, great because we need to dispossess
Speaker 2: ourselves of this idea that he's this civil rights you know,
Speaker 2: vanguard and you know it is this great guy that
Speaker 2: was our president at one point. He's a jackass and
Speaker 2: he was a scumbag, and he was in the ways
Speaker 2: and that too. But you know what flame and racist. Listen.
Speaker 2: I I grew up in the state where wood Row
Speaker 2: Wilson was from. So you want to talk about bad presidents,
Speaker 2: we can go into it right anyway, enough out of me,
Speaker 2: I'm just anything.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't understand why you're angry, because I do
Speaker 4: a lot of work.
Speaker 2: I don't just look. I don't parrot anybody's I don't
Speaker 2: parrot anybody's crap. Be pete. I don't turn around and
Speaker 2: just go you know what, I heard it on CNN.
Speaker 2: Therefore it's true. I'm not an idiot. Okay. I go
Speaker 2: and I dig into things, and I don't just do
Speaker 2: a Google search to go and get information. When I
Speaker 2: go out there and I tell you somebody lied to you,
Speaker 2: just one second, please, When I go out and say
Speaker 2: on this show, somebody lied to you, it's not because
Speaker 2: I'm believing in somebody's reporting over somebody else. Which, by
Speaker 2: the way, this is why I'm thinking of working with
Speaker 2: ground News very soon as part of my website, because
Speaker 2: they actually show you the bias and all the reporting
Speaker 2: and where it's coming from, and you can actually see
Speaker 2: it on the scale reliability. They actually do fact checks
Speaker 2: and stuff around.
Speaker 3: Now it's just nice too expensive for me right.
Speaker 2: Now, Well, you know what, I might be able to
Speaker 2: get discounts for everybody, okay, because that's the thing I
Speaker 2: might be able to partner with them. So I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about doing it because we need somebody out there to
Speaker 2: show you where there's bias and idiocy is. But when
Speaker 2: I report stuff on my show, Okay, I don't go
Speaker 2: at them. I will tell you about report a lot
Speaker 2: of times. I'll tell you about opinions sometimes. But when
Speaker 2: I go and I actually dig into something and I
Speaker 2: believe I found a reliable information that says this is inaccurate,
Speaker 2: this is incorrect. It is not based on well I
Speaker 2: just took in what they said on MSNBC, or I
Speaker 2: believe what Rachel Maddow said. I'm not on that. No,
Speaker 2: And I don't just listen to Trump and what he
Speaker 2: puts out. I actually go into what is publicly accessible.
Speaker 2: And sometimes I do other things besides searching on the internet,
Speaker 2: like make phone calls, make contacts with people, check out
Speaker 2: the documentation behind the story, check with the police that
Speaker 2: are actually involved in the story, check with the other
Speaker 2: law enforcement, call the lawyer. You know what. I've been
Speaker 2: in contact with people like Benjamin Crump and other people
Speaker 2: and never brought them on the show because they were
Speaker 2: involved in news stories. Yes, the guy who was always
Speaker 2: involved every time a black guy gets shot Benjamin Crump. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've been in contact with him in One of our
Speaker 2: friends is right now involved in a lawsuit because her
Speaker 2: son she you know, she has a mixed race son
Speaker 2: who got paralyzed in Florida. Okay, anyway, I haven't even
Speaker 2: brought it up on the show. I do a lot
Speaker 2: of work in order to come out and do this
Speaker 2: for you guys. When I come out and I say
Speaker 2: stuff and I devoke time to demonstrate to you something
Speaker 2: that is like, look, I went through this, I went
Speaker 2: through that, and this is what I found. A lot
Speaker 2: of work that nobody's doing. These talking heads on the
Speaker 2: on the corporate media don't do it. These alleged alternative
Speaker 2: media asses don't do it. I do. And what do
Speaker 2: I get for it? Crap and people dropping away because
Speaker 2: I didn't root for their guy. I'm getting pissed. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: b Pete.
Speaker 4: I understood, Chuck. I fully understand that what I was
Speaker 4: going to say was simply this. Anybody that wants to
Speaker 4: anybody can sit behind a computer keyboard and send an email.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you provide a platform.
Speaker 4: For anybody out there that listens to any of your
Speaker 4: shows to then call in on a Friday and call
Speaker 4: you out on something. But they won't do it. That's
Speaker 4: the part I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: They have the ability to call in and say, hey,
Speaker 4: I got a question because they picked the topic two
Speaker 4: days ago.
Speaker 3: You're on your show, blah blah blah blah blah. What
Speaker 3: do you base that on? Because I'll go ahead and
Speaker 3: tell you now.
Speaker 4: And I've thought a lot about our discussion on Skype
Speaker 4: after last week's show. There's if I'm gonna you know,
Speaker 4: people at one time thought that I was staunch republic
Speaker 4: and since then, I think they've learned that I'm not. Yes,
Speaker 4: I'm conservative in a lot of things. I'm not conservative
Speaker 4: in some things. There's a lot of social things that
Speaker 4: you would think I was on the left side of
Speaker 4: the spectrum, and you've pointed that out in the past too.
Speaker 4: But when I tell somebody that I read something or
Speaker 4: I'm looking at something, I tell them the source, and
Speaker 4: I also say.
Speaker 3: Whether I agree with it or not.
Speaker 4: Now, if I happen to pull sources from the conservative
Speaker 4: side of things and do a little other research to
Speaker 4: see how far back the original story started, if somebody
Speaker 4: doesn't like something that I'm calling out, they can call
Speaker 4: in and call us out on it.
Speaker 3: I've not received the first.
Speaker 4: Negative email ever, and we've been doing this what over
Speaker 4: five years?
Speaker 3: Not one email except one person that wanted to.
Speaker 4: Know what we were going to do the night that
Speaker 4: we were on Nature Voice program, and I didn't see
Speaker 4: that email in time to respond.
Speaker 3: So all I can say is this, You provide the platform.
Speaker 4: If somebody wants to sit there and brate you in emails,
Speaker 4: fucking delete those things.
Speaker 3: Man, you don't need that kind of crap.
Speaker 4: They have every opportunity to come on here and be
Speaker 4: a part of this show and find out what it
Speaker 4: is that you're researching. If they question it or they're
Speaker 4: mad because you didn't support their side, they have an
Speaker 4: opportunity to let you know and let's hash it out
Speaker 4: right here.
Speaker 3: That's what this show is.
Speaker 2: So I'm fine with you.
Speaker 4: Don't get discouraged over a bunch of keyboard commandos that
Speaker 4: want to sit there and brace you.
Speaker 3: Okay, you do. We do what you do. I got you,
Speaker 3: and don't change it for anybody.
Speaker 2: If it was just that, they'll bep. If it was
Speaker 2: just you know, the criticism from an email here and there,
Speaker 2: I would just blow it off, you know, it's sort
Speaker 2: of like the YouTube comment section. You don't take that seriously, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's insane. Would people do over there? Even when I
Speaker 2: looked at by the way, when people posted a little
Speaker 2: bit of the audio from this Billy Celestie's thing, like
Speaker 2: on Instagram. You should see the idiotic responses to this.
Speaker 2: You know, Trump did this. Trump didn't do it. This
Speaker 2: is the guy's grandson who did it? Moron? First of all?
Speaker 2: You know all this.
Speaker 4: Stuff, god, you know, chunk, just the amount of stupidity
Speaker 4: out there. I've found out what last Friday? Was it
Speaker 4: last Friday when I got Twitter?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Answer on the show?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: And I've been waiting for my blue check.
Speaker 4: And you know, because Elon's so busy, it took him
Speaker 4: this long to see that, you know, the draft cleared,
Speaker 4: So okay, let's give him this blue check. Anyway, I
Speaker 4: have found out the past week there's too many damn
Speaker 4: people out there on Twitter that have absolutely no clue.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 4: I saw it limited on Instagram. I've seen it a
Speaker 4: lot on Facebook. But Twitter is just a house of
Speaker 4: fucking nuts. I'll go ahead and tell you now, so
Speaker 4: too many people have Twitter. I can't even get me
Speaker 4: my feed. I'm only following like four or five individuals
Speaker 4: and it's like two hundred posts every time I click
Speaker 4: on for you people, put the keyboard down, put the
Speaker 4: phone down, and go outside sometime. You know, there's just
Speaker 4: too much of this shit now, way too much.
Speaker 2: Really take up masturbation or something productive, Liz, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 3: When you feel the urge to tweet the rubb one out, That's.
Speaker 2: What I'm thinking that they'll, you know why, because it'll
Speaker 2: calm them down, you know, and give them something else
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: Exactly, put their mind on something. You know, how terrible
Speaker 3: the world is.
Speaker 2: And I don't know about you, but I always got
Speaker 2: to use my imagination. But at least they'll go to
Speaker 2: another website if then if they're they're not gonna be
Speaker 2: on X. I mean, well then again, though there's a
Speaker 2: lot of porno on X which I keep having to block.
Speaker 2: Really ever since oh man, wait, ever since Musk took
Speaker 2: over uh you know, Twitter and turned it into X.
Speaker 2: It is definitely X rated. But because I have all
Speaker 2: kinds of Internet hose that want me to like go
Speaker 2: to their private channels and be uh check.
Speaker 3: Out their Instagram all the time, and they'll spoof. I'm
Speaker 3: real good friends with a well not say real good friends.
Speaker 4: For years we lived right down the road from each
Speaker 4: other with influencier model down in Florida.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what she is cooking.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll about every two months, i'll get this this
Speaker 4: invite file of somebody saying, hey, this is my private
Speaker 4: channel for those that.
Speaker 3: Are really close and blah blah blah blah blah. And
Speaker 3: you know I tied back, Well.
Speaker 4: If you were really who you say you are, you
Speaker 4: would know where we met. Uh, you don't hear anything
Speaker 4: else from them? And then the thing disappears. Yep, it's
Speaker 4: it's crazy, I mean, but there's thoughts out there and
Speaker 4: crap like.
Speaker 3: That all over.
Speaker 4: But before we get to the caller, though, I know
Speaker 4: you want to read you this quick little thing on
Speaker 4: the Adams case just to show you my point here.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious, but just one thing for accuracy is there's
Speaker 2: what been about seven people who resign now and they
Speaker 2: finally did sign the letters, so now they are going
Speaker 2: to take it to the judge. Right last night, I
Speaker 2: looked right before airtime.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's up to seven. Okay, I think
Speaker 4: it's up to seven. This was the letter that I
Speaker 4: was seeing earlier today.
Speaker 2: This this is the big deal where he's calling people
Speaker 2: cowards and.
Speaker 4: All that, right well, where he basically says that you know,
Speaker 4: I'm resigning because I never thought in all my time
Speaker 4: of doing this that it would get this bad.
Speaker 3: He's got a short paragraph in there, okay.
Speaker 4: And it says, in short the first justification, for the
Speaker 4: most of the Damien Williams order, the case somehow tainted
Speaker 4: of valid indictment, supported by ample evidence, and pursued under
Speaker 4: four different US attorneys, So weak has to be transparently protectual.
Speaker 3: This is the key statement. The second justification is worse.
Speaker 4: No system of ordered liberty can allow the government to
Speaker 4: use the carit of dismissing charges or the stick of
Speaker 4: threatening to bring them again to induce an elected official
Speaker 4: to support its policy objectives. You make one edit, You
Speaker 4: cross out elected official and put this word in place.
Speaker 4: The second justification is worse. No system of ordered liberty
Speaker 4: can allow the government to use the carit of dismissing
Speaker 4: charges or the stick of threatening to bring them again
Speaker 4: to induce a defendant to support its policy objectives.
Speaker 3: Basically, that is every plea deal that has ever happened.
Speaker 4: Is the government either using a carrot, well, we'll drop
Speaker 4: these three charges if you plead guilty to this.
Speaker 3: One, or.
Speaker 4: If you don't do this, we go after your son
Speaker 4: and we charge him with conspiracy.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: It happens every day, you change elected official to defendant.
Speaker 4: And what they're basically saying there is they went to
Speaker 4: Adams and said, look, and I didn't know this until today.
Speaker 3: There's a green light law in New York. That law
Speaker 3: says that.
Speaker 4: They will issue driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, undocumented immigrants,
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call them. They will give them
Speaker 4: a driver's license, and if any agency requests to see
Speaker 4: that file so that they can see where someone's address
Speaker 4: is or something and find out their status, they are
Speaker 4: supposed to let that individual will know within thirty days
Speaker 4: that someone had contacted them and who the agency was
Speaker 4: that contacted them for an inquiry.
Speaker 3: And I didn't know this law existed. That's what they filed.
Speaker 4: Pambondi today filed charges against the copel and Leticia James
Speaker 4: and whoever they had a DMV is now basically Trump's
Speaker 4: Justice Department, and Ice went to Adams and said, look,
Speaker 4: if you don't allow us to operate back in this
Speaker 4: city again, we'll bring you up on charges. The Supremacy
Speaker 4: Clause of the Constitution. I think it's Article seven, either
Speaker 4: six or seven claus see. I think anyway, it basically
Speaker 4: says in there the states cannot interfere with the federal
Speaker 4: government enforcing federal law. So that's what they brought Letisia,
Speaker 4: James and Hope up on today. That's what they could
Speaker 4: have brought Adams on. And that's what they're going to
Speaker 4: use against all of these sanctuary city officials that want
Speaker 4: to fight ICE as you're interfering with the United States
Speaker 4: enforcing federal law.
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: It's a hard it's a hard battle to you know,
Speaker 4: it's going to be a hard fought battle, and it's
Speaker 4: going to go to the courts. But I didn't realize
Speaker 4: that that was the law in New York until today.
Speaker 2: So, well, you want a bigger shocker, You want a
Speaker 2: bigger shocker in twenty Now. I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is true today in twenty twenty five, okay, But eleven
Speaker 2: years ago in North Carolina there were similar provisions. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for undocumented immigrants in North Carolina. I happen to know
Speaker 2: that for a fact, but I don't know if they
Speaker 2: exist today. I know in twenty fourteen they did because
Speaker 2: that's when I did the research on it, when I
Speaker 2: lived there. Anyway, let's get to the callers. Sound good
Speaker 2: to you or you got something else?
Speaker 3: Sure? Oh no, let's go. Let's go.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to them. And by the way,
Speaker 2: three one nine five two seven five zero one six,
Speaker 2: I see a couple of beyond. Hold Jimmy James is
Speaker 2: up first, though, so he you know I'm taking you
Speaker 2: an order. Okay, three one nine five two seven five
Speaker 2: zero one six? And uh, Jimmy, how you doing? Man?
Speaker 1: Doing good?
Speaker 8: Here?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: Are emailed to linked I got a clip I want
Speaker 1: to play. It's less than two minutes. It starts out slow.
Speaker 1: Just let it play. We'll let the man speak in
Speaker 1: his own words.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's got a bunch of music at the beginning.
Speaker 2: Do you know about how far it goes in before
Speaker 2: we lose the music and get to the phone.
Speaker 5: Call oy, Just let it play.
Speaker 1: It's less than two minutes long.
Speaker 2: Okay, the whole thing's less than two minutes. All right,
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 1: Cure mean that there is a new government and a
Speaker 1: new prosecutor General.
Speaker 8: I am prepared to do a public designing of the
Speaker 8: commitment for the billion dollars.
Speaker 4: Despite of the fact that we didn't have any coruption. Child,
Speaker 4: you don't have any information about doing something wrong.
Speaker 6: I especially asked him, No.
Speaker 3: It was day before us.
Speaker 1: I especially ask him to design.
Speaker 5: Congratulations.
Speaker 9: Installing the new prosecutor general is going to be critical
Speaker 9: for him to work quickly to repair the damage.
Speaker 2: Choken data.
Speaker 4: I'm a man of my word and that now that
Speaker 4: the new prosecutor.
Speaker 7: General's in place, we're ready to move forward and.
Speaker 1: Signing that new one dollar loan guaranteed.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the New York Post clip, and there
Speaker 2: you go. It's It states in the text there that
Speaker 2: it's an edited clip. It's clearly something that was recorded
Speaker 2: on the Ukrainian side. Audio wise, I don't know who
Speaker 2: they're saying edited, but they said it's edited.
Speaker 5: Yeah, go ahead, I'll fill it in.
Speaker 1: The former president of the Ukraine recorded those conversations. I
Speaker 1: urge everyone to go online and listen to the whole recording.
Speaker 1: Go find that whole recording.
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely speaks for itself.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard this record, so yeah.
Speaker 1: No talking point needed. I'll just let the man speak
Speaker 1: for himself perfect.
Speaker 2: I would agree with you if if there is an
Speaker 2: untouched audio recording of this, I would say, definitely look
Speaker 2: into it and also find out exactly when it was
Speaker 2: made and uh and everything else. Yep.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: It's about anything else on your mind this week. That's
Speaker 2: that's about it. Okay. So that's the thing. And uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I wonder if that if I wonder if
Speaker 2: the pardons. I wonder if the pardons on his way
Speaker 2: out the door extend to this, do they.
Speaker 5: What do you think he didn't pardon?
Speaker 3: Oh, he didn't pardon.
Speaker 1: Even if he did, he can no buying didn't pardon
Speaker 1: himself because you know he's not long for this world,
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 5: But uh.
Speaker 1: Uh, well, I was gonna talk about the Celestis tape.
Speaker 5: But if there's other callers, Oh, go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, you got time. You want to talk about the
Speaker 2: Celestis tape? Go ahead? What did you think of it?
Speaker 2: Did you happen to listen to the podcast yet?
Speaker 1: I heard it? Uh? And I went and listened to
Speaker 1: that Alex Jones show.
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, did Alex really quickly. Did Alex have h
Speaker 2: really quickly? Jimmy? Did Alex have more of the tape
Speaker 2: or less of the tape than I had?
Speaker 1: I didn't hear it on your show because I just
Speaker 1: turned on Live and picked up to where the guy
Speaker 1: was talking.
Speaker 2: Okay, Stevens, Okay, because the whole podcast is out there
Speaker 2: and I left it completely uncut. We played a very
Speaker 2: long portion of that tape. Okay, so you know. But
Speaker 2: but let me know when you do get a chance
Speaker 2: to listen the comparison. Did he play more or less
Speaker 2: of it? Because I can't stand to listen to Alex
Speaker 2: long enough to uh to get through it. Honestly, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: but go ahead. You had something else you want to.
Speaker 1: Say, I don't know. It's the first show of Alex
Speaker 1: Jones I've ever listened to.
Speaker 3: M Really, I'll find that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the highly skeptical Jimmy James is highly skeptical, and
Speaker 1: I'll just leave it.
Speaker 2: There, so am I. But the point was I wanted
Speaker 2: to let this guy tell his story. This is about
Speaker 2: his grandfather, right, And you know me, if I've got
Speaker 2: a witness or somebody connected to a witness, what do
Speaker 2: I do? I let them tell their story, right, I
Speaker 2: have a question, Yeah, sure, what's your question, b Pete?
Speaker 4: Well, earlier you had mentioned the two murders that that
Speaker 4: they that were they talked about on the tape.
Speaker 3: Was one of them the agriculture apartment.
Speaker 1: Of ad guy.
Speaker 2: Yep, one of them.
Speaker 3: Was the other one Johnson's sister.
Speaker 2: No, no, the other one is actually jfk Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: jfk Ah.
Speaker 1: Murder time we went wak Kennedy pretty much the hell
Speaker 1: of a thing, yes, fun, the definite stuff we should
Speaker 1: talk about on phones.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and that's the thing about it, that's what's
Speaker 2: so highly suspicious about it is not only and by
Speaker 2: the way, if you listen carefully, and I don't know
Speaker 2: if Shane realizes this, but there's other people there. So
Speaker 2: I know there's at least two other witnesses because I
Speaker 2: caught two refracted voices. See, I have a good ear,
Speaker 2: and I know that there's at least two other men
Speaker 2: in the room with Celesties. I don't know who they are,
Speaker 2: but I know there's two other men in the room
Speaker 2: with them. And the recording come from from Celestial.
Speaker 3: It was the source of it from Celestial.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was recording a lot of stuff. And that's
Speaker 2: the thing he claimed over the years. Uh, you know
Speaker 2: when he when he did that article in France and
Speaker 2: the book and all that stuff he had claimed over
Speaker 2: the years. Look, I've got tapes that I am certain
Speaker 2: I need to hang on to because otherwise I'm a
Speaker 2: dead man. And he said stuff like that, and you
Speaker 2: know it was hard to understand even when he went, uh,
Speaker 2: tried to cut a deal at one point and went
Speaker 2: and got the the family. You know that that ad
Speaker 2: guy who got murdered. It was really ridiculous. Somehow he
Speaker 2: shoots himself in the chest five times with a rifle,
Speaker 2: right that guy, Uh you know ruled a suicide. Well,
Speaker 2: you know you don't get paid for a suicide with insurance, right,
Speaker 2: So the deal is that the family was not getting paid.
Speaker 2: Celesti's made sure to straighten that out when he got
Speaker 2: out of prison, to correct that, to have that changed.
Speaker 2: But they wanted to cut a deal with him that
Speaker 2: he would testify about a whole bunch of stuff, and
Speaker 2: he said, uh, not without immunity. They wouldn't give him
Speaker 2: immunity over you know, he couldn't cut the immunity deal
Speaker 2: with him, So he walked. But he did straighten out
Speaker 2: that thing so that the wife of Henry Marshall got
Speaker 2: the money. Okay, just saying they straightened out, they had
Speaker 2: it changed. There was an exhumation. They changed the ruling
Speaker 2: from suicide to homicide. But it's really bizarre to me
Speaker 2: that it was ever signed off on a suicide anyway.
Speaker 2: But the point is that, see Celestie's as much as
Speaker 2: you know. Look, first thing that comes out of anybody's mouth,
Speaker 2: and do a Google search if you want con artist, right,
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that one hundred percent of You can't
Speaker 2: be a con artist and lie about one hundred percent
Speaker 2: of things anyway. Let's be honest, Okay, you have to
Speaker 2: mix some truth in otherwise you can't hook nobody.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, not only that when you got your finger
Speaker 4: in as many pies as you have, is in.
Speaker 3: If you can't count everybody.
Speaker 2: And that's the other thing. Look, this is not right.
Speaker 2: And this is not the first confession that I've ever
Speaker 2: heard on a tape for JFK. Some of them you
Speaker 2: know very well off the top of your head what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. But there's others out there. I mean,
Speaker 2: probably six or seven confessions out there, and I can
Speaker 2: name many different motives for why people make tapes with
Speaker 2: confessions on them. Okay, So I'm just saying that simply
Speaker 2: because we have a confession here secondhand, if you will,
Speaker 2: and like I said on that show, it's a hell
Speaker 2: of a second hand. It doesn't mean that that is
Speaker 2: the end of the story. Okay. There could be a
Speaker 2: lot of reasons why they're making these statements. And by
Speaker 2: the way, I believe fully that there were you know,
Speaker 2: Henry Marshall is not the only Department of Agriculture guy
Speaker 2: to die under interesting circumstances when they were investigating LBJ
Speaker 2: and you know, cotton allotments and getting paid for land
Speaker 2: that was a swamp land. You know, don't grow anything
Speaker 2: on this even though it's a swamp, you know, and
Speaker 2: you can't grow anything on it. Okay. There was all
Speaker 2: kinds of crap that went on there regarding that insurance scams,
Speaker 2: you name it, and then funneling that money into letting
Speaker 2: his wife by TV stations. I mean, there's a whole
Speaker 2: story there that needs to be told. Even if you
Speaker 2: don't believe that he killed or had JFK killed, it's
Speaker 2: irrelevant to the rest of his criminal activity. That was
Speaker 2: being investigated at the time and was dropped as of
Speaker 2: the assassination. So you know, to say that he didn't benefit, well,
Speaker 2: people go to the wrong benefit on that. Oh he
Speaker 2: became president. No, that's not really the benefit here. The
Speaker 2: benefit is that he was able to put a stop
Speaker 2: to a whole lot of investigations on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, covering his butt legally was the benefit.
Speaker 2: Right, And look, we discovered these things.
Speaker 1: When it comes to crime, criminal law, you know, motive
Speaker 1: isn't even really necessary. Yeah, as far as that recording goes,
Speaker 1: it's that guy's going to have to pull out show
Speaker 1: the tape. Fact that's going to need to be subpoenaed.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he came forward, so we'll find out real
Speaker 1: quick if it's real. Well he's a committee now.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, the original is stashed. I'll tell you that
Speaker 2: the original is stashed, and he's.
Speaker 1: They'll be unstashed real quick because there's going to be
Speaker 1: a subpoena coming. So he's going to have to come
Speaker 1: forward with that tape.
Speaker 2: Well, or i'd like to see that, but you know what,
Speaker 2: you got to protect a guy if this is the case,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So hopefully there'll be a
Speaker 2: deal cut there, and I'd like to hear the rest
Speaker 2: of the tapes because there's more. That's the other thing.
Speaker 2: And he had to he had him and now look,
Speaker 2: he had him digitally transferred, which is why I can't
Speaker 2: absolutely you know, I can't verify its authenticity automatically. I
Speaker 2: can tell you that based on the artifacts that are
Speaker 2: preserved in the digital recording, I would say that it's
Speaker 2: more likely that it's a legitimate tape of the type
Speaker 2: that he said it is, and it's it's a believable story,
Speaker 2: and based on the time period in which the tape
Speaker 2: was made, and based on what would be available technologically. See,
Speaker 2: I did a bunch of research on this too. I
Speaker 2: don't do anything without doing some other research. By the way,
Speaker 2: you know, I know I sound like an idiot sometimes
Speaker 2: on air, and I ask open questions like I don't
Speaker 2: know what I don't know, but I know the answers
Speaker 2: usually to the questions I'm asking. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you guys realize that, but anyway, Yeah, it's it's a mic.
Speaker 2: You know, those those little mini tapes. You know, that's
Speaker 2: what kind of tape it is. And by the way,
Speaker 2: that's what it sounds like that's what I would.
Speaker 3: Expect to Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, And wait a minute, are you trying to say
Speaker 1: it's a micro cassette. Yes, those weren't around in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy two.
Speaker 2: Yes they were, they were. Okay, they were available in America.
Speaker 2: They were, They were available. I'm telling you. Check with Phillips.
Speaker 2: Check with the manufacturer of Phillips. They were available through
Speaker 2: Phillips from nineteen sixty seven on in America.
Speaker 1: Nineteen sixty seven. Yes, sir, we didn't even barely get
Speaker 1: to cassettes until well into the seventies. How could there
Speaker 1: have been micro cassettes?
Speaker 2: Okay, when I don't know, check with Phillips. I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: I checked with the manufacturer. Look, you know that that
Speaker 2: Sony developed the VCR basically in the nineteen fifties, right,
Speaker 2: But we didn't really have them available to the general
Speaker 2: public until the seventies in this country, right.
Speaker 1: Because the tapes were full sized, the tape was not
Speaker 1: they were gigantic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: Micro introduced by Olympus in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 2: Okay, But they were available in this country through Phillips
Speaker 2: in sixty seven. And yes, they were also available through
Speaker 2: Olympus in sixty nine. That's correct. The man, I'm just
Speaker 2: telling you, well, ahead of nineteen seventy one, when this
Speaker 2: tape is allegedly made, you could acquire these tapes. It
Speaker 2: might not have been easy. They weren't necessarily available at sears,
Speaker 2: but they were available, Okay, just telling you they were available,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Well he said there was seventy two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventy one or seventy seventy one or seventy two. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I believe it was seventy one, But look either way,
Speaker 2: that was the marker I remember using is.
Speaker 3: Using micro cassettes.
Speaker 4: A minute that they became available, reporters were snatching them
Speaker 4: up left and right.
Speaker 3: Get made their job so much easier.
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing. They were available in other
Speaker 2: countries before that, okay. And it's not beyond belief that
Speaker 2: people had things imported. I knew people that ordered things
Speaker 2: from Japan and Korea before they were available on the
Speaker 2: store shelves in America.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's get back to the content.
Speaker 1: So Celestis calls this guy and says, I sure am
Speaker 1: sore about being in prison all the mears. That was
Speaker 1: sure me, no, lind all right, So he just got
Speaker 1: out of prison. What he's first thing he does is
Speaker 1: buy one of these. Almost to one of these tape
Speaker 1: recorders costs ten grand back then.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know what the cost sailings, but I
Speaker 2: don't think they were that.
Speaker 1: Much Amrose twenty fifteen hundred, So pry about that about
Speaker 1: thousand bucks? Imagine?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Doug.
Speaker 4: The Microcassette was the brand name for Olympus. What Phillips
Speaker 4: released was the Mini Cassette in sixty seven.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry mini cassette versus Michael.
Speaker 4: No, I'm backing you up on that. Yes, Phillips's was
Speaker 4: called the Mini Cassette. It came out in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was this. I don't know what was
Speaker 2: the unit cost? BP. Do you have any you want
Speaker 2: to check that real fast, because.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Let's see what the first product you know in Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't take a look at I didn't take a
Speaker 2: look at it, just like what the whole James Files
Speaker 2: claim about the fireball right where people were going, oh,
Speaker 2: well he couldn't have possibly had that because and I
Speaker 2: was like, well, actually it could have, because they did
Speaker 2: make some of them. But they weren't available in mass
Speaker 2: production at the time, but you could get hold of
Speaker 2: one of those fireballs, you know, that cut down rifle,
Speaker 2: that file and believe me, I don't believe files at all,
Speaker 2: but I went to go verify. I try to verify
Speaker 2: stuff like this. Was the equipment available at the time.
Speaker 2: You say stuff is done, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I just.
Speaker 1: The burns on them to prove it. At this point,
Speaker 1: I already said for that Mac fingerprint, they want to
Speaker 1: put this, then they need to put some effort into
Speaker 1: it to prove that it's even real.
Speaker 2: No, I got you. And I even said on my
Speaker 2: show that you know, Shane, you might want to read
Speaker 2: Joan Mellon's book because trying to put you know, because
Speaker 2: he hit the scenario that he understood from his grandfather
Speaker 2: was that Mac Wallace was on the Grassy Knoll. And
Speaker 2: I said, well, look, I don't buy that he was
Speaker 2: on the Grassy Knoll because I can't find a shooter
Speaker 2: on the Grassy Knoll that landed a shot. Okay, I
Speaker 2: can't put both of those things together. Now, if you
Speaker 2: want to put that shooter a little further down the road,
Speaker 2: you know, a little closer to the Triple Underpass, guess
Speaker 2: what I can buy that. But Mac Wallace and the
Speaker 2: fingerprint that you heard about, because he mentioned it, I said,
Speaker 2: I believe that's been thoroughly disproven, and I told him
Speaker 2: he should read Faustian Bargain. Joan Mellon. I mentioned it
Speaker 2: directly to him on air. But you ought to listen
Speaker 2: to that podcast. You'll hear me say things that tell him. Look,
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily believe what I'm hearing. I believe it's
Speaker 2: a legitimate recording, but the purpose of it could mean
Speaker 2: a lot of different things. And by the way, your
Speaker 2: guy met with Trump, he's got a picture on his website,
Speaker 2: this guy Shane he met with Trump. He's got a
Speaker 2: picture of his family standing with Trump.
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, look, I'm with you. But my
Speaker 2: point is that for all the people that think it's
Speaker 2: some left wing freaking you know, nut job or no is,
Speaker 2: he's not. He's actually on that side of the equation.
Speaker 2: And he makes a whole statement about how this is
Speaker 2: the time we're going to see transparency now because he's
Speaker 2: feeling real hopeful just telling you, and I let him
Speaker 2: speak to that too. Tell me what you think what
Speaker 2: do you think this means? And I even said, you
Speaker 2: know what, here's another good question. And I doubt anybody
Speaker 2: asked you why now? Why are you coming up with
Speaker 2: this now? When your grandfather knew about it, told you
Speaker 2: about it, obviously, told you about it before he died,
Speaker 2: and you ended up with it. You've had it for
Speaker 2: some years. Your grandfather's been dead more than ten years.
Speaker 2: Why now? And you know what, I'll let his answer
Speaker 2: speak for itself. You ought to listen to it, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's worth downloading that one of my shows.
Speaker 2: Okay update, yes, sir, Okay.
Speaker 3: Many cassette recorders.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw one thing listed where it said the
Speaker 4: original price for a mini cassette recorder in nineteen sixty
Speaker 4: eight was forty nine dollars. Okay, Sunny's first cassette recorder
Speaker 4: that was put out in sixty eight cost anywhere between
Speaker 4: twenty and fifty dollars.
Speaker 3: Okay, twenty and eighty dollars.
Speaker 5: That's been all.
Speaker 2: The model maximum ceiling in today's money is two hundred.
Speaker 3: Dollars, right, well, no, fifty.
Speaker 1: Thousand percent.
Speaker 4: I bought one for thirty five bucks back when I
Speaker 4: was in broadcasting in college, and that was the eighties.
Speaker 4: It was a nice, heavy duty, pitty cassette recorder.
Speaker 2: Well between twenty and fifty dollars today, Jimmy James. Wouldn't
Speaker 2: that be equivalent to like two hundred dollars today? Or
Speaker 2: am I crazy?
Speaker 1: Well that's confusing to me because they usually use one
Speaker 1: thousand percent interests or one thousand percent since sixty three.
Speaker 2: Well, that's not a I don't think it's like that
Speaker 2: one thousand percent.
Speaker 1: I do, okay, we Harvey Oswald made a buck fifty okay,
Speaker 1: buck fifteen hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your rate of wages. Your rate of wages is
Speaker 2: not equal to the cost of things. Jimmy, you know that.
Speaker 4: Well, let me give you a quick comparison, right, I
Speaker 4: bought that mini cassette recorder eighties.
Speaker 3: I just think thirty five bucks on actually great answers.
Speaker 1: Ask Google how much fifty bucks in nineteen sixty three
Speaker 1: is worth? Now, I'm curious, Oh, we ain't in sixty three.
Speaker 1: I guess nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going it would work. Well, I'm going nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty eight a medium number. There, What is it today? Okay?
Speaker 4: So I'm asking, well, hold on, think about this also
Speaker 4: what you pay today or what you would have paid
Speaker 4: for it back then doesn't necessarily fit. The first the
Speaker 4: first calculator that my father and I he was taking
Speaker 4: a welding class. He had to do some figuring and
Speaker 4: I needed one for I was doing, So we went
Speaker 4: in together on a Hewlett Packard. I'm sorry, Texas instrum
Speaker 4: is thirty five. Yeah, I get this shift is almost
Speaker 4: two hundred bucks. Yeah, I just saw it just a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago, for like twelve ninety five at
Speaker 4: the checkout for the third version of it. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't comparing prices now, and then you got to
Speaker 4: take that into consideration.
Speaker 2: No, I totally understand the shift. I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: get to the equivalent amount of money that would have
Speaker 2: to be let out about And.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on thirty five dollars in the eighties would
Speaker 4: have been the equivalent of.
Speaker 3: What sixty five dollars in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the thing, you know, and then prices
Speaker 2: drop as technology goes, you know, go south, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like you know today you could buy
Speaker 2: something for fifty bucks at a flea market the same
Speaker 2: machine that you would have had to pay five hundred
Speaker 2: dollars for to play video games, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Years Ivey has.
Speaker 4: Several listings for vintage, original old mini tape recorders in
Speaker 4: that and their averaging anywhere from thirty five to you know,
Speaker 4: one hundred dollars. So oh yeah, but assuming the original
Speaker 4: price couldn't have been that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I'm just just trying to account for inflation
Speaker 2: and not not the slide of the technology, right, because
Speaker 2: today that technology is almost useless.
Speaker 4: Well, what's forty nine to ninety five that's what one
Speaker 4: went for in nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 3: What was that today's dollars?
Speaker 2: Well, I went with the bottom number first, which was
Speaker 2: twenty dollars, and twenty dollars translates to one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty one dollars and thirty eight cents today, twenty twenty
Speaker 2: dollars in nineteen sixty eight. Now I'll go with fifty
Speaker 2: dollars and do the same thing, Okay, sixty and that
Speaker 2: would be four hundred and fifty three dollars in today's money. Okay. So,
Speaker 2: but the point is it's still even if it was
Speaker 2: a high end item, it was still available and it
Speaker 2: wasn't like a ridiculous price. You weren't like paying for
Speaker 2: a house to buy, is all I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 2: at the top of it. You know again, maybe you've
Speaker 2: got a deal. Maybe you got it. You know, look
Speaker 2: if you got it from a foreign country. I remember
Speaker 2: when the Japanese you know, exchange was pretty interesting because
Speaker 2: it was only like one hundred dollars to buy something
Speaker 2: from Japan. That was technology that had not appeared in
Speaker 2: America yet.
Speaker 3: Well, now I can give you an example.
Speaker 4: When I started survey and it was in the early eighties,
Speaker 4: and the guy I worked for had a computer that
Speaker 4: would do all of his calculations. And it was basically
Speaker 4: a Humut packer computer that had a cassette drive in it.
Speaker 4: It was a standard cassette, not a mini cassette. You
Speaker 4: can get a mini cassette anyway.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: The printer was an IBM selectric typewriter looked into this thing.
Speaker 4: So when it printed all this stuff out, you know,
Speaker 4: you had this long fanfold sheet of data on calculating
Speaker 4: your surveys and all. Well, a year after I started,
Speaker 4: the HP forty one calculation was a programmable calculator.
Speaker 3: It cost you about one hundred and eighty five dollars.
Speaker 4: This guy in APEX sat down and wrote a program
Speaker 4: and put it on a little chip that you plugged
Speaker 4: in the back of this thing.
Speaker 3: Right, the chip was like two hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 4: So for four hundred dollars, I had something that cost
Speaker 4: my boss, with this archaic technology, almost four thousand dollars
Speaker 4: to be able to do the same thing.
Speaker 3: And I could hold it in the palm of my hand.
Speaker 4: Take it out in the field, and it had a
Speaker 4: little infrared printer that cost you another one hundred bucks to.
Speaker 3: Go with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. In nineteen eighty four, I was able to buy
Speaker 2: a computer which had a cassette drive to it also,
Speaker 2: and it was a small computer. You could do a
Speaker 2: lot of things with it. It was called Aquarius, I think.
Speaker 2: And in nineteen eighty four I had one. The damn
Speaker 2: thing weighed like fifty pounds, but I was able to
Speaker 2: buy it for like one hundred and twenty dollars in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four money, okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And people back then that used it, I mean reporters,
Speaker 4: as soon as they came out of the microcast set.
Speaker 4: The report almost put the notebook away because he could
Speaker 4: just stand there and hold it up and you know,
Speaker 4: swap out cassette tapes all day long, right.
Speaker 2: And today if you notice, they all have all sorts
Speaker 2: of and digital recorders came out, you know, at some
Speaker 2: point too. And by the way, the micro cassette wound
Speaker 2: up being useful for other things. They wound up going
Speaker 2: into answering machines and everything else. So yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: micro mini, whatever you want to call them. Either way,
Speaker 2: it was that smaller cassette. And like I said, based
Speaker 2: on what was described to me, I went and just
Speaker 2: looked into it to see if, first of all, was
Speaker 2: that technology available, and I found it was. And then
Speaker 2: I found you know, it wasn't an insane price. I
Speaker 2: didn't have the exact numbers like we just went through,
Speaker 2: but I figured that it was something that if you
Speaker 2: wanted to make sure you could record through the phone.
Speaker 2: And that was another thing. Why didn't he just get
Speaker 2: a standard you know, recorder, or he could have gotten
Speaker 2: a reel to reel machine to record on if he
Speaker 2: wanted to, but he got a micro cassette record. I
Speaker 2: don't know why. I can't ask him. Billy Celestes is dead. Anyways,
Speaker 2: I want to go to the next caller. I put
Speaker 2: Jimmy on hold, but I want to go to the
Speaker 2: next caller and remind you guys that anybody can jump
Speaker 2: in and change the topic or discuss anything they want.
Speaker 2: Three one nine five two seven five zero one six.
Speaker 2: We wound up talking about the exchange of money and
Speaker 2: technologies available at different times, the JFK assassination, and other
Speaker 2: things already. So we'll see where we go now, and
Speaker 2: I'll check the clock after we get to this caller.
Speaker 2: I think it's uh, Danny in California. Pretty sure that's you.
Speaker 2: Is that your Danny?
Speaker 5: It sure is? Hey, man, I do hey, how are
Speaker 5: you doing?
Speaker 2: All right? All right? So what's on your mind this week?
Speaker 5: Well, a couple couple of topics. I did listen to
Speaker 5: the Shane Stevens podcast that you and Larray Hancock did.
Speaker 5: I noticed I did hear that question like you said,
Speaker 5: why now you know? And I and I.
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 5: And I heard his answer he thought it was the
Speaker 5: right time. Yeah, And I don't have as good as
Speaker 5: yours you have and the research ability. But when listening
Speaker 5: to that tape, I noticed that there was like anytime
Speaker 5: they interesting names, there seemed to be like a little
Speaker 5: pause or glitch. Did you catch that or am I
Speaker 5: just mistaken?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I can tell you what that glitch is from.
Speaker 2: It's because he was playing it through Skype, and what
Speaker 2: Skype does is he guaranteed had a noise reduction setting
Speaker 2: on his Skype so that those blank pauses you heard
Speaker 2: is actually the Skype cutting static out where there's no
Speaker 2: words being spoken, okay, which means you don't have a
Speaker 2: direct transfer of his digital audio. I didn't have his
Speaker 2: audio in my possession. He played it. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he caught that pat of it. I don't have
Speaker 2: a copy I did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe that he was playing it. But understand
Speaker 5: how Skype works, Yeah, I just but it just seemed
Speaker 5: like there was some pauses before the names.
Speaker 2: Yes, Skype has or what is is? Okay? Skype does
Speaker 2: a few things with sound that make it not exactly accurate.
Speaker 2: And although it's a good broadcasting tool, it's not a
Speaker 2: perfect one because, like let's just say me and b
Speaker 2: Peter are both on Skype right now, if one of
Speaker 2: us is louder than the other when we're talking. If
Speaker 2: you ever notice when we both talk at the same time,
Speaker 2: one of us gets choppy and cut down and the
Speaker 2: other one becomes the prominent voice. Well that's what Skype
Speaker 2: does automatically. It takes the clearest, loudest thing and puts
Speaker 2: it up front, okay, and tries to cut down the
Speaker 2: other thing. But when there's a pause and there's no
Speaker 2: sound coming through the clearest loudest thing, it grabs the
Speaker 2: nearest noise and sticks it in between. Now, Larry and
Speaker 2: I were dead side during that, and there was nothing
Speaker 2: but this static noise, so his noise reduction cut in
Speaker 2: and caused it to sound like there was absolute blank spaces.
Speaker 2: So that's why it sounds like that. Yeah, No, I'm
Speaker 2: just letting you know. I'm not trying to make an excuse.
Speaker 2: But if I had him able to play it over
Speaker 2: a direct line, okay, or let me think there's a
Speaker 2: couple of different things where if I had him played
Speaker 2: over a direct line, or I got him to change
Speaker 2: his settings on his Skype and get rid of the
Speaker 2: noise reduction, you would have heard all this huge static
Speaker 2: like you did on the Alex Jones Show, where there
Speaker 2: was those big bunches of static in between the discussion.
Speaker 2: It's there, there's you know, consistent noise in the room
Speaker 2: and it is very noisy, which I asked him about
Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, like it's kind of noisy, man,
Speaker 2: you know, I asked him. But I had a conversation
Speaker 2: with him off there about the tape, and I did
Speaker 2: research afterwards, as I explained just before. Anyway, any other
Speaker 2: thoughts on.
Speaker 5: It, though, The only thought on that on that is
Speaker 5: that I believe you were talking about Robert Carro's series
Speaker 5: on on on lb J. Was that were you mentioning
Speaker 5: Robert Carlo's work on LBJ?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, okay, you have you read that whole series? Uh?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I read the first volume and uh then I
Speaker 2: then I read sample chapters after that. Uh yeah, I
Speaker 2: was actually sent the first volume from his publisher, I
Speaker 2: think some years ago.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but after that, you know, it was like,
Speaker 2: come on, man, you're you're just whitewashing this guy, you know,
Speaker 2: like if he was going to do a serious like
Speaker 2: he mentions occasionally some of the you know, corruption stuff,
Speaker 2: like there were suspicions that, yeah, but I mean but
Speaker 2: he never addresses it, you know, and he claims to
Speaker 2: be a full on, you know, historian and authority on LBJ.
Speaker 2: I don't see how you can be an authority on
Speaker 2: LBJ and not publicly examine his clear corruption in my mind,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just obvious. But you know,
Speaker 2: but that's why I disagree with the guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well, I remember when he came out the
Speaker 5: first one and the thing was called Pathway the Power.
Speaker 5: I read that probably when it first came out. I
Speaker 5: think it was like the it was thirty nineties or
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety. It was supposed to be a three voughn
Speaker 5: but it ended up being a five on. I read
Speaker 5: the first three volumes. Up to Johnson's Senate, there was
Speaker 5: a lot of corruption, but I mean, was there stuff omitted?
Speaker 5: I don't know, or he would seem like he was
Speaker 5: really complax. That's kid and Johnson was complax.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, somewhere in there in those early in those
Speaker 2: early things and leading up to the Senate and control
Speaker 2: of the Senate, his treatment of the box forty six scandal, right,
Speaker 2: this is just from off the top of my head
Speaker 2: memory that his treatment of that was really dismissive, like
Speaker 2: it was sort of like, hey, here was an allegation
Speaker 2: that was made, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: there really wasn't anything to it, so nobody did anything
Speaker 2: about it, you know, And that's the way I would
Speaker 2: summarize what he took like twenty pages to tell us.
Speaker 2: And I really found that aggravating. I'm sorry. I just
Speaker 2: was like, come on it, at least present both sides
Speaker 2: of it, you know, and say that, you know, there
Speaker 2: were these allegations made. There's this photograph among his inner circle,
Speaker 2: there was definitely you know, people that because people were
Speaker 2: making these statements, you know, long after he died, and
Speaker 2: even toward the end of his life, some and some
Speaker 2: people had been you know, testified to things before this,
Speaker 2: there was available stuff that this guy could have put
Speaker 2: in there and said, you know, there is some evidence
Speaker 2: that this guy I might have literally stolen a voting
Speaker 2: box you know there in an early campaign. Yeah, or
Speaker 2: had his people do the Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah. What I got out of it is that that
Speaker 5: was his race against Coke Stevens. And this was a
Speaker 5: long time ago I read it, but yeah, I pretty
Speaker 5: much got killing I read on it now. I'm going
Speaker 5: back from a long time memories that he pretty much
Speaker 5: stole it and Coke Stevens, who was fierce because he
Speaker 5: kind of painted the picture. Coke Stevens when he was
Speaker 5: you know, when he kind of did his biography in
Speaker 5: his book, you know, he was kind of what legends
Speaker 5: were made of. And basically, I think what he said
Speaker 5: is that coach Stevens prior to that one every county
Speaker 5: in Texas and there's a lot of counties pretty much.
Speaker 5: So it was like it was almost like impossible for
Speaker 5: him to win that election, but he did. And then
Speaker 5: there was one election he lost because he let his
Speaker 5: guard down, and he made sure he never lost an
Speaker 5: election after that. But see, and there's the.
Speaker 2: Thing, was was the Stevens, Well, let me ask you
Speaker 2: a quick question if you remember it was the Stevens,
Speaker 2: you know, biography even in the bibliography of the Johnson book,
Speaker 2: because I don't think it was. See that's another thing.
Speaker 2: The bibliography section of Caro's work doesn't include oppositional stuff,
Speaker 2: and if it does, it includes the mild things. And
Speaker 2: I'm not asking for him to include Madeline Brown, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm asking for him to include some of the other
Speaker 2: legitimate public figures who made statements, who made accusations, you know,
Speaker 2: who made accusations not based on they were just pissed
Speaker 2: they lost, but people that thought they had evidence and
Speaker 2: presented it at the time. Where is that nowhere? He
Speaker 2: did nothing to do, you know, to answer the contemporary
Speaker 2: charges against this guy. That's all I'm saying is that
Speaker 2: if you're gonna do the definitive historical work on a
Speaker 2: figure like this, you got to include it all, warts
Speaker 2: and all. And that was my objection to Kara's work.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I mean, you know, you might find it valuable,
Speaker 2: and in some ways it is, but it is incomplete
Speaker 2: in my in my estimation. That's all I feel about it,
Speaker 2: and that's why I brought it up there. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I did make a dismissive comment about it, but I
Speaker 2: feel justified in saying it because it is incomplete. I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody could argue with that if they're being objective.
Speaker 2: But that's me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no no. I I got
Speaker 5: a lot out of it. You know, maybe maybe it
Speaker 5: was incomplete, but I thought there was a lot of
Speaker 5: interesting research in that book that I got a lot
Speaker 5: out of it. And I found that he was kind
Speaker 5: of his back room. I just said, I kind of
Speaker 5: walked away. Johnson was a very complex individual. I mean,
Speaker 5: he had a lot of flaws, sure.
Speaker 2: I mean again, I would estimate the guy was extremely racist,
Speaker 2: and yet he brought electricity to black communities that had
Speaker 2: no electricity in Texas. This is before. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: the truth, you know.
Speaker 4: So he.
Speaker 5: Was he was Yeah here he was crook. Does all
Speaker 5: get go? I mean he got you know, cooked in
Speaker 5: with Herman Brown that like you said, he bought an electricity.
Speaker 5: He fought. I mean when he was when he was
Speaker 5: got out of his teacher's college, he was a teacher there.
Speaker 5: He was trying to get equipment for the for the
Speaker 5: for the Mexican American kids there. I mean, he was,
Speaker 5: he was you know, he was a complex. It was
Speaker 5: a part of them that was, you know, kind of generous,
Speaker 5: but then there was other part that he was diabolical, right,
Speaker 5: I mean it was. It was a fascinating individual.
Speaker 2: You're talking about a guy who basically when he said,
Speaker 2: you know, he was pissed off about Kennedy getting the
Speaker 2: reputation for you know, getting laid so often. He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I probably had more women by accident than he than
Speaker 2: he ever had on purpose. Probably true. He had a
Speaker 2: charisma where he could get laid all the time, and
Speaker 2: he probably did okay, but at the same time, this
Speaker 2: is a jerk off who's picking up by their ears.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, yeah, if you.
Speaker 4: Really wanted a good source on what LBJ was getting
Speaker 4: away with. I know a lot of people don't like
Speaker 4: the book, but you can read Blood, Money, and.
Speaker 3: Power by Marl McClellan. He goes into a lot of
Speaker 3: dirt on LBJ. He just tries to be NLBJ making
Speaker 3: a confession that he didn't make.
Speaker 2: Well, he does that, and he wastes a lot of
Speaker 2: time in that book. I don't like that one. I mean,
Speaker 2: even that Texas Connection book to me is better, and
Speaker 2: even Maddeline Brown's freaking what is it Morning in Texas
Speaker 2: or whatever? I find that. I mean, you know, you
Speaker 2: and I have different literary opinions, but I crack up.
Speaker 2: Plus there's a whole bunch of inaccurate crap in there,
Speaker 2: which is why you know, Walt Brown was like involved
Speaker 2: in the initial creation of that book, right, No, I
Speaker 2: didn't know that. Well, it's a funny thing. He literally
Speaker 2: took it to his class because he was teaching, you know,
Speaker 2: some English college thing and uh and and he brought
Speaker 2: it into his classroom, opened it up, looked at it,
Speaker 2: and immediately it had the wrong time of the assassination,
Speaker 2: like in the opening uh chapter of the of the
Speaker 2: printing that they sent him. And he held it up
Speaker 2: in front of his class and said, this is a
Speaker 2: book that is going to be published very soon that
Speaker 2: that I don't even want my name on. And I'll
Speaker 2: give you a piece of advice. You better fact check
Speaker 2: your your your nonfiction better than this guy does. And
Speaker 2: he threw it in the garbage in front of his class. Okay,
Speaker 2: And I kind of agree with him, I gotta tell you,
Speaker 2: because the guy has so many poorly, poorly stated things
Speaker 2: in there about factual things. He's got the time of
Speaker 2: the assassination wrong, at least in the initial printing. Stuff
Speaker 2: like that. I mean, I crack up because Walt, you know,
Speaker 2: went and had his book on Judith printed for showing
Speaker 2: me the draft. And when he finally sent me the PDF,
Speaker 2: I opened it up and in the first freaking paragraph
Speaker 2: I found a mistake. And I wrote to him and
Speaker 2: I said, you know, you should have sent it to
Speaker 2: the blind guy first, because I just started reading it
Speaker 2: and here's your opening mistake. And it's too funny because
Speaker 2: that's the printing that I've been selling, by the way,
Speaker 2: and I pointed out to people when they ask me
Speaker 2: about it. But it's hilarious because he's like, wow, nobody
Speaker 2: else told me that, And yeah, the blind guy found it.
Speaker 2: But I hate that, you know, like if it says
Speaker 2: you know JFK, you know died at twelve thirty, well
Speaker 2: officially he didn't, Okay, just saying, all right, officially he
Speaker 2: died some time after one the central time. But anyway,
Speaker 2: it is what it is, right. I don't like blood,
Speaker 2: money and power, but there's plenty of books like that
Speaker 2: that tell you a lot of the bad side of
Speaker 2: this guy. And bar McClellan a little hyperbolic, a little
Speaker 2: trying to, i don't know, make more out of things
Speaker 2: than they were. Maybe would you think that's true about
Speaker 2: that book BP in.
Speaker 3: Connection with JFK.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm only referring to his ability to dish
Speaker 4: dirt on LBJ. I mean, he's got a lot of
Speaker 4: behind the scenes crap about what was going on at
Speaker 4: the time. But as far as jfk' is concerned, no,
Speaker 4: the book sucks. I'll tell anybody that, Oh yeah, I
Speaker 4: told that to the person that gave me the book
Speaker 4: when they gifted it to me and I said, okay,
Speaker 4: I'll read it.
Speaker 5: But.
Speaker 2: I got you. No, I agree, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's like that Russ Baker book, you know,
Speaker 2: the Family of Secrets book on the Bush family. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it's actually really good nailing a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of like terrible and ugly things in the Bush family line,
Speaker 2: until he goes to the jfk assassination and it's just
Speaker 2: no good man. I I I just you know, you
Speaker 2: got to there's another guy with a blurry picture.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I can't do it. Which, by the way, I was
Speaker 2: approached recently, why don't you do some prayer Man shows?
Speaker 2: Did you? Did you? I know, I'm thinking about how
Speaker 2: to do it, though, did you? I don't remember. I
Speaker 2: know I handed you that book prayer Man. Did you
Speaker 2: keep it or.
Speaker 3: Remember seeing that book? No?
Speaker 2: Remember, I gave it to you when we went to
Speaker 2: the conference, and I I don't remember if you had
Speaker 2: kept it or if you only read part of it
Speaker 2: while we were there and gave it back. I got
Speaker 2: to look through my pile of books.
Speaker 4: But but you know, because he gave his presentation, I
Speaker 4: was back in the in the book selling room when
Speaker 4: his presentation was given.
Speaker 3: I didn't get to see it yet.
Speaker 2: Ah, okay, well did you get the video afterwards or no?
Speaker 2: I'll see if I can dig that.
Speaker 3: Up for you then so you can catch Wait a minute,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, I think you've sent me.
Speaker 2: I could have swore I sent you my password because
Speaker 2: I had a password for all the videos.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I didn't have time to go look at it.
Speaker 2: Okay, no problem, no problem anyway, you can see how
Speaker 2: things how things go sometimes. Anyway, Sorry about that, Danny.
Speaker 2: I just I wanted to go over that that part,
Speaker 2: and that that's why I objected to that. Just say, see,
Speaker 2: I'll explain anything I say on this show and tell
Speaker 2: you why I said, you know, and tell you I
Speaker 2: worked out as my opinion. I feel as though it's
Speaker 2: my opinion that that that particular collective work is incomplete.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I hate that people like you know anytime something
Speaker 2: comes up. I mean, I guarantee when these JFK files drop,
Speaker 2: if they drop, you know, if there's anything in there
Speaker 2: about LBJ, they're gonna pull him out on TV. If
Speaker 2: he's still alive, Carol, they'll pull him out on TV.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if he's still alive, but they'll
Speaker 2: pull him out on TV and be like, here's our
Speaker 2: LBJ expert. You know, like they're still pulling out what's
Speaker 2: his name, the plagiarist, god, the guy who wrote case closed.
Speaker 5: What is his name?
Speaker 3: Oh not Posner?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Posnor, Posner, exactly, Posnert.
Speaker 5: It was a lawyer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a lawyer. Posner. He is a lawyer. He
Speaker 2: was a Wall Street lawyer. You you were thinking, you
Speaker 2: were thinking, I'm confusing with Bosner. No what I was thinking, yea,
Speaker 2: no Posner. They still pulled Posner out dead.
Speaker 4: Uh but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was called reclaiming history, gotcha. Yeah? And I
Speaker 2: know that because I kept falling. It was a perfect
Speaker 2: sleeping pill. I kept falling asleep trying to read it. Uh,
Speaker 2: really bad. But but anyway, you know it's and you know,
Speaker 2: you know how you know it's really really bad because
Speaker 2: the the Oswald did. A guy says the only scientific
Speaker 2: book on the JFK assassination that's ever been printed in
Speaker 2: the conspiracy world was guess what, Jim Fetzer's book, assassination Science. Okay,
Speaker 2: like that's the only thing that it was actually scientific.
Speaker 2: There you go, This is how well he knows the literature. Beautiful. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Sorry Danny again, maybe you want to bring up some other.
Speaker 5: Stuff, Yeah I do. Actually you got something to difference.
Speaker 5: I go, how much do you miss New Jerseys.
Speaker 2: A hell of a lot.
Speaker 5: Why, Yeah, I told you I've been there once. And
Speaker 5: I always had a fascination with that state because as
Speaker 5: a kid, you know, I was a little kid, I
Speaker 5: was fascinated with box and looked at one of those
Speaker 5: you know, encyclopedias that I remember seeing a heavyweight champion
Speaker 5: Jersey Joe.
Speaker 3: Walcott, Jersey Joe Balkan Doctor doctor J.
Speaker 5: I think he was the New Jersey nets was his team?
Speaker 5: What was it was his first team?
Speaker 2: I think? I think so?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Doctor J.
Speaker 3: I used to watch him at the Salt Palace. That
Speaker 3: man was amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah he was when I saw him play. And then
Speaker 5: uh then I you know, musically, I've always been, you know,
Speaker 5: three team, a Bruce Springsteen fan before Born to Run.
Speaker 5: So it was always fascinated with his movies with Jersey
Speaker 5: and then you know.
Speaker 2: New Jersey's a wild state. Yeah, New Jersey's a wild
Speaker 2: state musically because you got everything from you know, Frank Sinatra,
Speaker 2: I think Whitney Houston was from Jersey. Uh, but also yeah,
Speaker 2: and uh, who else I'm cool in the Gang, right
Speaker 2: John Capperty and the Beat Round Band. Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean there's a lot of interesting musicians from Jersey. It's
Speaker 2: kind of Zach Wilde. I love that guy. You know,
Speaker 2: he developed into something really interesting, the Black Label Society thing.
Speaker 2: He definitely you know, he looks like a biker from
Speaker 2: Jersey now, but he actually used to hang out with
Speaker 2: certain bicker clicks. You know, a lot of interesting characters
Speaker 2: have come from Jersey. Uh, you know, everything from what
Speaker 2: Jack Nicholson lived there. I don't remember if he was
Speaker 2: actually born there, but I think he lived there. Well,
Speaker 2: there's that that creature Danny DeVito.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of interesting people from Jersey.
Speaker 2: So it's it's interesting. Nuclear Assault it was a band
Speaker 2: from Jersey, you know, the skid Row, the bon Jovi
Speaker 2: and the Bruce Springsteen. Everybody knows. But I'm just saying
Speaker 2: there's some interesting creative people from Jersey, and uh, they
Speaker 2: are unique in my.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 5: Oh well, the thing was with the sprintings. He always
Speaker 5: seems to paint a picture about Jersey. I mean, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of pride there. And then you know, I've
Speaker 5: seen like Anthony Bourdain, I think he was in me
Speaker 5: from Jersey. He did a he did a couple episodes
Speaker 5: of New Jersey and you know, showing the state. And
Speaker 5: I saw something about what they call the pines and
Speaker 5: the agriculture, you know, because trying to get a you know,
Speaker 5: Ji Episcopal on SML, you know, kind of mocking then
Speaker 5: making fun of New Jersey. But I went, I was there.
Speaker 5: I went through New Jersey, spent more than a half
Speaker 5: a day there. I was in Philly. Philadelphia used to
Speaker 5: have my wife and I bred and showed dogs for
Speaker 5: a number of years. And there's a show. It was
Speaker 5: two thousand and five. It's Morris and Essex County. It's
Speaker 5: a it's a dog show that goes every five years.
Speaker 5: Everybody where's fancy hats. So I was driving there was
Speaker 5: like East New Brunswick, New Jersey, or are you familiar
Speaker 5: with that area?
Speaker 2: I know New Brunswick. East Brunswick is uh. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just the eastern part of what we would refer to
Speaker 2: as the New Brunswick area.
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, I was told it was about an hour
Speaker 5: and a half from New York. Is that accurate?
Speaker 2: Yeah, almost anything, except for when you go way up
Speaker 2: north in the state. Almost anything is an hour hour
Speaker 2: and a half outside of New York.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I found it when I was driving through it.
Speaker 5: I found it. Was it was in October, early October.
Speaker 5: It was really pretty. The landscape was. I really liked it.
Speaker 5: It was it was kind of slow rolling hills, and
Speaker 5: I wish I could have spent more time checking the
Speaker 5: state out well.
Speaker 2: Up until about ten years ago, there was a lot
Speaker 2: of a lot more diversity in Jersey, you know, landscape
Speaker 2: wise than people realized, because we still had some farm
Speaker 2: land left and I don't even necessarily know all of
Speaker 2: what was growing there. But there's stuff like out by
Speaker 2: like Salem, New Jersey and places like that, where it's
Speaker 2: devoted to farmland. It's not you know, I mean where
Speaker 2: it's densely populated. People are living on top of each other.
Speaker 2: You know, you go to Jersey City and places like that,
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. You know, Bay owned that whole area. But see,
Speaker 2: I was mainly from the eastern part of the state.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was literally an actual Jersey Shore
Speaker 2: guy on like the Jersey Shore people that were mostly
Speaker 2: from Long Island, right, But I was actually from the
Speaker 2: Jersey Shore. And it's interesting because even like Springsteen, who
Speaker 2: grew up partially in Neptune and partially in Asbury Park,
Speaker 2: pretty much like where I grew up. It was fascinating
Speaker 2: because the whole generation before me, it's like everybody and
Speaker 2: their mother had a story about how they knew Bruce Springsteen,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And yeah, and Asbury today
Speaker 2: is a fully gentrified, revitalized areas, probably too expensive for
Speaker 2: me to live there. But throughout the seventies and eighties
Speaker 2: when I was growing up there and in the sixties
Speaker 2: when Springsteen was stomping around through there, you know what,
Speaker 2: it was a really economically depressed area and it was
Speaker 2: abandoned and broken pretty much. And you come up out
Speaker 2: of a place like that that's still a tourist trap
Speaker 2: for people from you know, all the surrounding area.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Indeed, we even called people here's an interesting term. You
Speaker 2: don't hear this outside of Jersey. We called them Benny's
Speaker 2: and the Bennies come in during the summer, that's what
Speaker 2: we called them. And why because they were from Bayonne, Elizabeth,
Speaker 2: Newark and New York, Benny, get it. So these are
Speaker 2: people from outside of the area that would come through
Speaker 2: and rent things for a way too high price, drive
Speaker 2: everything up, and create summertime businesses that only lasted in
Speaker 2: the summer just so they could sit on our beaches
Speaker 2: and clog every damn thing up traffic wise and everything
Speaker 2: for you know, like three to four months a year,
Speaker 2: depending on the weather. And whole communities survived off of that.
Speaker 2: So that was the That was the circumstance. That's why
Speaker 2: you get that flavor of what you get from Springsteen.
Speaker 2: Don't ask me to explain John Joe because he's an idiot,
Speaker 2: but but Springsteen, at least, even though I don't love him,
Speaker 2: I get where he's coming from. You know, he grew
Speaker 2: up in a place where you know, we love yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's still lived in a time when there were
Speaker 2: all these broken down amusements, parks and stuff that were
Speaker 2: just sitting there abandoned.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: One of the last places to fall was the Palace Amusements,
Speaker 2: which has that famous Tilly sign on it, you know,
Speaker 2: with that that funny looking face. You see, that creepy
Speaker 2: thing that's like associated with weird New Jersey. The magazine, Yeah,
Speaker 2: which is actually it was initially a corporate sponsor for
Speaker 2: something in Coney Island that was brought down to Jersey
Speaker 2: when they were trying to make it like a whole
Speaker 2: East Coast thing, you know what I mean, Like, you
Speaker 2: know the East Coast amusements. Come and see the you know,
Speaker 2: roller coasters and stuff, and I remember they were broken
Speaker 2: down roller coasters and rides still sitting there. A matter
Speaker 2: of fact, that Tunnel of Love thing that Springsteen filmed,
Speaker 2: I think I think it filmed it on the lake
Speaker 2: that is part of what Lake Avenue and Asbury Park,
Speaker 2: and it runs right by this place called the Casino
Speaker 2: that was abandoned for I don't know, thirty years pretty much,
Speaker 2: but used to be a place with like pinball machines
Speaker 2: in it and stuff like that, where like you know,
Speaker 2: the place actually stayed open year round, but was a
Speaker 2: big success in the summers, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like the Palace, the Palace Amusements, weird weird building.
Speaker 2: After a while they put a porno theater in the
Speaker 2: that which was funny. But anyway, I got I got
Speaker 2: WEENI dogs barking, and there's a whole gritty thing to
Speaker 2: Asbury Park, which is all gone now because now they
Speaker 2: have wine stores and vintages and that. So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: kill my sound because the Weeni dogs are killing me.
Speaker 2: But Danny, anything else you want to add, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Uh No, I just uh, I know that the New
Speaker 5: Jersey was they used to be famous. I don't know
Speaker 5: if it's still today. But their tomatoes were well known,
Speaker 5: you know in agg because well I lived there's you know,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of a lot of tomato harvesting, so
Speaker 5: I know they always had a good reputation with their tomatoes.
Speaker 5: So I remember that for as an og ponente. No,
Speaker 5: I was just I just thought you wanted to talk
Speaker 5: about New Jersey. I mean I I thought it was
Speaker 5: beautiful and and I remember when I left, I had
Speaker 5: a memory I'll never forget. I was horrified days shut.
Speaker 5: This was before Vans had those uh then start to
Speaker 5: shut the door. And I was shutting the door with
Speaker 5: Rentald Van and it didn't shut, and it's quiet, and
Speaker 5: I turned around. There's a lady right and with us.
Speaker 5: She was a played the French horn for the Oakland
Speaker 5: Symphony and I broke her hand that day. Oh wow, Yeah,
Speaker 5: here's a musician. I was like, I felt so bad.
Speaker 5: I was like, I mean, that was the only dad
Speaker 5: thing about my my my trip in New Jersey. But
Speaker 5: she forgave me. She was good about it, but it
Speaker 5: took her a while. A four she could play the
Speaker 5: French horn again. She was a wonderful, wonderful lady and
Speaker 5: like a mother to my wife.
Speaker 2: So yeah, listen, anybody who visits Jersey and stays there
Speaker 2: for a couple of days, you could probably make an
Speaker 2: interesting story or visit an interesting site. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: whether you go on the Sopranos tour or you actually
Speaker 2: go to other places. Matter of fact, I've even told
Speaker 2: the story about you know, I went to a camp
Speaker 2: for blind kids that was right down the road from
Speaker 2: a Boy Scout camp that that's where they filmed you know,
Speaker 2: one of the years I went to camp, Like the
Speaker 2: first year I went to camp, actually they had just
Speaker 2: finished film Friday the thirteenth there, you know, the one
Speaker 2: with Kevin Bacon, the first one. Yeah, And I mean
Speaker 2: it was weird because the blind kids used to hike
Speaker 2: go on along hike to the boy Scout camp and
Speaker 2: then we were like guests of the boy Scouts when
Speaker 2: we would arrive a whole little cooperative thing there. And
Speaker 2: the camp is still in existence, by the way, it's
Speaker 2: we're legally blind and blind children. It's called Camp Marcella anyway,
Speaker 2: but it's still right down the road from the Boy
Speaker 2: Scout Camp. Now, I think the Boy Scout camp might
Speaker 2: have had to have been sold off because of all
Speaker 2: the lawsuits, you know, but the Blind camp is still there,
Speaker 2: just saying. And it was too funny because like they
Speaker 2: didn't do anything special to those cabins or anything for
Speaker 2: Friday the thirteenth, Like that's what the Boy Scout cabins
Speaker 2: looked like, like those you know, it was hilarious. Matter
Speaker 2: of fact, the only thing I was waiting to see
Speaker 2: is the big line of benches they had around a
Speaker 2: campfire area. I was waiting to see that in the movie,
Speaker 2: and I didn't see it because I had sat there,
Speaker 2: you know, like the year before I saw the movie.
Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, yeah, no, I love talking about that stuff.
Speaker 2: But anyway, BP, we haven't taken a break this whole time. Danny,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you on hold though, and Jimmy still
Speaker 2: on hold, and uh, you know, I'd like to get
Speaker 2: back around to them. But i'd also like to take
Speaker 2: a break. What do you think, huh? You know, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe we get you reminiscent about someplace that you like,
Speaker 2: you'd love to.
Speaker 3: But I do from the day.
Speaker 2: We can throw out there, oh, trivia, I love trivia.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we can make something out of that.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not like a trivia contest.
Speaker 4: It's more just little things that I've picked up preading
Speaker 4: some of these headlines.
Speaker 2: Well, I got a piece of trivia for you that
Speaker 2: I didn't realize people didn't know, uh until very recently,
Speaker 2: and I don't want anybody to google it, so I'm
Speaker 2: not going to give it to you before the break,
Speaker 2: but I'd love to see if anybody knows it off
Speaker 2: the top of their head, because you know, like and
Speaker 2: it's about a first statement thing. Everybody knows, like, you know,
Speaker 2: what Neil Armstrong said right when he landed on the moon,
Speaker 2: the whole you know, one small step for man, right.
Speaker 2: They all know that quote to some degree, even if
Speaker 2: they can't quote it exactly. And a lot of people
Speaker 2: know some of the you know quotes when somebody was
Speaker 2: the first one or somebody did something remarkable, And I
Speaker 2: didn't realize until recently. Most people don't know this one
Speaker 2: particular quote, and I thought everybody might have known it,
Speaker 2: you know, being a kid growing up Generation next, I
Speaker 2: thought we all learned this at some point, but I
Speaker 2: guess we didn't. But you have some other interesting trivia
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 9: Huh.
Speaker 4: Well, no, well, one major thing it's about I don't
Speaker 4: know if you have one down there, a Panda Express.
Speaker 2: Mmm. You know, I think we do have it here
Speaker 2: because I remember Katie maybe ordering from there when she
Speaker 2: was living with us. I think it was a pain.
Speaker 3: Was one of those little story about how they started
Speaker 3: and what they're worth. And we'll get to that after
Speaker 3: the break.
Speaker 2: Sounds good, and uh maybe while we're at it, we'll
Speaker 2: talk about the non existent Bojangles uh uh restaurants here
Speaker 2: because they're all gone, and they even closed up some
Speaker 2: of the Popeyes in the area, and I'm wondering if
Speaker 2: that's because of a lack of chickens, but who knows.
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Speaker 4: I was looking at headlines today, just bouncing around, and
Speaker 4: you know, I asked you before the break, if you
Speaker 4: had a Panda Express down there where you are, We've
Speaker 4: got them here. And the story was was basically about
Speaker 4: how the whole thing started. Apparently, the Panda Inn in
Speaker 4: Pasadena was a restaurant and a long time ago, a
Speaker 4: bunch of guys went to them and said, hey, how
Speaker 4: can we take what you do here menu wise and
Speaker 4: turn it into something.
Speaker 3: That we could put in.
Speaker 4: Malls at the food courts. And that's how they came
Speaker 4: up with the idea Panda Express. And you know, they're
Speaker 4: known for their orange chicken, and I mean the orange
Speaker 4: chicken is the joke of some of these comedians. Kat
Speaker 4: Williams makes a comment about orange chicken, how African Americans
Speaker 4: love it and all.
Speaker 3: But I didn't realize it.
Speaker 4: This company is now worth three billion dollars, which just
Speaker 4: forward me.
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys they own the Panda Inn, Panda.
Speaker 4: Express, and a couple other restaurant chains that aren't as
Speaker 4: big as Panda Express.
Speaker 3: That's all man, It's a lot of orange chicken.
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy when you go to the article
Speaker 4: doesn't show the pictures. But in the Panda In restaurant,
Speaker 4: they just redid it. They went through it, remodeled the
Speaker 4: whole thing. I mean, it's a red carpet experience when
Speaker 4: you go in there. But they've also kind of turned
Speaker 4: it into a like a museum. I mean they've got
Speaker 4: pictures and things like that. And one of them was
Speaker 4: the guy that started this thing cooking in Taiwan, and
Speaker 4: you know, and he's in a cook's.
Speaker 3: Outfit and he's flipping stuff in a wall.
Speaker 4: Go in to it, and it just shows you what
Speaker 4: somebody can come over here and do over time, the
Speaker 4: potential that we have in this country for people to
Speaker 4: be able to turn around and take a restaurant and
Speaker 4: turn it into a chain that now you know a
Speaker 4: lot of people is the joke of Chinese food going out,
Speaker 4: especially on holidays.
Speaker 3: You know, that's the only thing open. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: But I mean he's turned this thing into a three
Speaker 3: billion dollar industry. I think that's commending it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, that's that's amazing. I would not think
Speaker 2: that Panda Express is worth three billion dollars. But what
Speaker 2: the hell, man, You know what, if you got an
Speaker 2: idea and you can make it portable, you can sell
Speaker 2: it to people whatever it is, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's just I mean, I love that. I love that
Speaker 2: aspect of things. I don't know if we're going to
Speaker 2: survive this time period to see anybody ever be able
Speaker 2: to come up with something new again. I got to
Speaker 2: tell you, I don't see innovation in the future, and
Speaker 2: not at least not in the near future. But you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm getting more and more pessimistic based on
Speaker 2: people's conditions. It seems like, you know, but we shall see,
Speaker 2: or who knows, maybe it'll be some uh, some immigrants
Speaker 2: that come in and freshen things up, because you know
Speaker 2: that happens a lot too, just saying a.
Speaker 4: Lot of well, I mean, you think about how many
Speaker 4: small businesses, you know, people have come over here with
Speaker 4: very little money and turned around and made a success
Speaker 4: of restaurants and services, and.
Speaker 3: I mean it's just amazing.
Speaker 4: Look at the look at the nail tech trade and
Speaker 4: the way the Vietnamese came over here and established something
Speaker 4: that women going dumb sixty five to two hundred dollars
Speaker 4: every time they walk in there.
Speaker 2: Well, I love bringing up I love bringing up pizza
Speaker 2: because pizza is this wonderful, weird invention that was created
Speaker 2: in Italy but didn't do anything over there. It became
Speaker 2: a thing here and now you got everything from you know,
Speaker 2: Papa John's to your local pizzeria to a Domino's to
Speaker 2: a little Caesar's. I mean, I wonder how big the
Speaker 2: pizza industry is in America, you know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying to even guess how much they pull in.
Speaker 2: No, you can't. But the remarkable thing is it all
Speaker 2: starts because some Italian guy brings this thing wrapped in
Speaker 2: cloth right to the working in the city building a
Speaker 2: city in New York, and he brings it in winds
Speaker 2: up sharing his lunch. Next thing, you know, is somebody
Speaker 2: comes up with the idea. You know what if I
Speaker 2: had a stand and I sold this crap, these guys
Speaker 2: would buy it.
Speaker 4: Papa John's he started his in a closet in college
Speaker 4: bottom an oven.
Speaker 2: There's another guy, but there's a guy who came in after.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the overall change to the American culture
Speaker 2: think about it, from just this one stupid thing that
Speaker 2: the guy had the Only reason why the guy had
Speaker 2: in his lunch box, honestly, is because it wouldn't go
Speaker 2: bad throughout the day if you actually wrapped it in cloth,
Speaker 2: you know, and they folded it over, by the way,
Speaker 2: it was like more like a cal zone than a
Speaker 2: full pizza. But it was, you know, initially made flat,
Speaker 2: but then they folded it over and wrapped it in
Speaker 2: cloth inside of a lunchbox.
Speaker 4: Back in twenty twenty two, the pizza restaurant sales in
Speaker 4: the US recent all time high a forty six point
Speaker 4: nine billion, and they aw that was up ten billion
Speaker 4: from the year before or from a decade before. And
Speaker 4: now they are projecting the US pizza restaurant market to
Speaker 4: reach fifty point one billion in last year's revenue numbers
Speaker 4: aren't in yet, And I got to.
Speaker 2: Tell you that's remarkable considering a guy like me who
Speaker 2: used to love to order pizza or try to find
Speaker 2: some decent pizza or whatever. I can't afford to order
Speaker 2: pizza as often as I want to, but you know,
Speaker 2: that's pizza restaurants. And meanwhile, you got frozen pizzas. You
Speaker 2: got all sorts of pizza like product out there, of
Speaker 2: all sorts you know, it's just it definitely changed the
Speaker 2: culture a bit, not saying all for the good. I
Speaker 2: mean you could say that some people are fat off
Speaker 2: of the cheese and carbs and whatever and what what
Speaker 2: what and whatnot, But I would say that, you know,
Speaker 2: it's left to it's definitely left a footprint on what
Speaker 2: you would call American culture.
Speaker 3: Oh, definitely definitely contribution. That's to go to, that's to
Speaker 3: go to party, food, order pizzas.
Speaker 2: There you go, and it's the you know, look, you're
Speaker 2: not feeling like cooking. What does everybody feel like doing? Well,
Speaker 2: either they stop off at McDonald's or I guess nowadays
Speaker 2: you have been a door dash deliver it.
Speaker 4: I got a funny story. My brother was telling me.
Speaker 4: He's got two kids, and when.
Speaker 3: They were I think like five, five and seven.
Speaker 4: Anyway, they used to go spend a lot of time
Speaker 4: with my my mom, you know, Grandma would babysit when
Speaker 4: one of them had to work late shift or they
Speaker 4: were both like like getting off work, you know, regardless.
Speaker 4: But when we grew up, we had the old pepperoni
Speaker 4: or the chef boy or d pizza kids, you know,
Speaker 4: were mixed up your dough and you had all your
Speaker 4: pepperoni in there, and you.
Speaker 3: Actually your pizza and baked it.
Speaker 4: Well, they came over one weekend and Grandma decides, hey,
Speaker 4: y'all want to make pizzas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they start making pizzas.
Speaker 4: And when their parents came to pick them up, my
Speaker 4: brother and my sister in law, you know, the kids
Speaker 4: just couldn't go on how they made their own pizza.
Speaker 3: It was amazing. And my brother looked at his oldest
Speaker 3: son and said, you know.
Speaker 4: I was nineteen years old and had a high school
Speaker 4: before I had.
Speaker 3: My first domino or first pizza. Hut pizza is it?
Speaker 4: Up till that time, we had already made our own
Speaker 4: and the kids couldn't believe that you could do that.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the difference in generations.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: We used to do things like that. We never went
Speaker 4: out for pizza because it was so expensive with five kids.
Speaker 4: But you know, here they are Grandma's making pizzas for
Speaker 4: them and it's like the neatest thing in the world.
Speaker 3: And what those pizza kids were around since what the fifties, Well.
Speaker 2: Now today, Bepete, little update is now they have this
Speaker 2: ridiculous yikes, lunchables make a pizza kit, basically individual little
Speaker 2: pizza kits for kids. So just saying, you know, things
Speaker 2: change over time. Convenience foods. You know, pizza's part of it,
Speaker 2: but convenience foods are a thing, and they have grown immensely.
Speaker 2: I wonder what that trade is like, you're talking about
Speaker 2: fifty billion dollars or so pizza wise. But yeah, man,
Speaker 2: and I'm telling you a lot of people can't afford
Speaker 2: it anymore, and it's still going up. So it is
Speaker 2: what it is. I got one piece of trivia too.
Speaker 2: You got any more trivia you wanted to throw in?
Speaker 2: Or should we get to the calls?
Speaker 4: No. The only other thing I was going to discuss
Speaker 4: is apparently spring break is becoming a thing of the past, believe.
Speaker 3: It or not.
Speaker 2: Well, because people don't leave their houses, they probably do
Speaker 2: it virtually, now, you know, I had spring break on zoom. Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I don't know what
Speaker 2: to say anymore. I'm confused by the society around me.
Speaker 2: At this point. I think I've officially hit old manhood here.
Speaker 2: It's it's just a thing. But I got I got
Speaker 2: one for you, and I'll ask this to the callers
Speaker 2: as we go through, And don't anybody use the Google
Speaker 2: machine all right or gootube to go look it up
Speaker 2: or anything. But everybody kind of knows what you know,
Speaker 2: the alleged first guy to land on the moon, you know,
Speaker 2: because we got so many people out there that don't
Speaker 2: believe we went there. But according to general mainstream history,
Speaker 2: Neil Armstrong is the first guy who set foot on
Speaker 2: the moon, right, and everybody knows he made the you know,
Speaker 2: one small step from man, one giant leap for mankind
Speaker 2: some version of that. They had to learn that in
Speaker 2: school at some point. Well, kind of wondering why it
Speaker 2: is they don't remember what the second guy said. And
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if one of our callers or b Pete
Speaker 2: would be Pete savior answer for last cause who knows.
Speaker 2: Maybe you'll know it, but don't look it up. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna trust you don't look it up. Uh, but yeah,
Speaker 2: do you know what the second guy said? And do
Speaker 2: you know who the second guy was? So there you go,
Speaker 2: two part question. But anyway, let's go back around to
Speaker 2: the callers. And apparently we got two of them. Uh,
Speaker 2: we got Jimmy and looks like we got Danny back,
Speaker 2: So let's go to Jimmy first. Hey, Jimmy, anything else
Speaker 2: you got on your mind? Or do you want to
Speaker 2: try and answer my trivia question? There's no prize.
Speaker 1: Uh gee, I think it's probably buzzed al drin and
Speaker 1: he probably said, wait up, nice, Well.
Speaker 2: You got half of a question, right, but I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna tell you what you half.
Speaker 1: Didn't he start singing? Didn't he start going dazy, dazy,
Speaker 1: I'm half crazy?
Speaker 2: Well not when he jump, not when he first set foot? No,
Speaker 2: or maybe he said it to that guy he punched
Speaker 2: in the mouth. Was his name Sebrell or whatever?
Speaker 1: I don't know, So it's face it's a Ge're a liar?
Speaker 1: So he decked him out?
Speaker 2: Yeah he did.
Speaker 1: Uh, here's here's here's my important uh contribution. I have
Speaker 1: one after if you wanted it? Oh you guy asked
Speaker 1: Danny first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let me go to Danny and I come
Speaker 2: back to you. I'll either put you both on or
Speaker 2: I'll just put you on after. Okay, all right, all right,
Speaker 2: So Danny, do you happen to know the answer to
Speaker 2: my trivia question? And do you have anything else you
Speaker 2: want to drop in?
Speaker 5: Sure? I actually watched and remembered watching the moon landing.
Speaker 5: It was old enough to watch that. It was my
Speaker 5: neighbor's house.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 5: I was going to say that Jimmy said it was
Speaker 5: buzz Aldrin, but I can't for life, and they can't
Speaker 5: remember what he said following after that statement, Okay.
Speaker 2: So really quick, I'll go to be Pete and then
Speaker 2: we'll see if you got anything else you want to
Speaker 2: drop on. And then I promised i'd bring Jimmy back,
Speaker 2: so I'll do that. How about you be Pete without
Speaker 2: looking it up? Okay, like I said, these guys both
Speaker 2: got half of the question right, so you know what
Speaker 2: that means. But do you remember what he said?
Speaker 8: It was?
Speaker 3: It was Aldron? But the four said it.
Speaker 4: Armstrong made a comment about the dust and all sticking
Speaker 4: to his boots and all when he yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: that was actually.
Speaker 3: The second thing said, right, it was Aldro. What was it? Magnificent?
Speaker 3: Something isolation?
Speaker 2: Oh he's so close, p Pete. You see now you're
Speaker 2: restoring some of my faith in the idea that I
Speaker 2: did actually go to school in America, because I think
Speaker 2: we were taught this and we were meant to recite
Speaker 2: this at a certain point. The actual thing he said,
Speaker 2: was magnificent desolation.
Speaker 3: Desolation.
Speaker 2: That's it. You were close, though, see, at some point
Speaker 2: you were exposed to this information. So I feel better now.
Speaker 2: But I guarantee you you asked, ninety percent of people.
Speaker 2: If they don't take out their phones or have a
Speaker 2: computer in front of they won't know.
Speaker 4: You think back to things like that that happened, these
Speaker 4: first that were on TV. And we're sitting there, you know,
Speaker 4: on a three channel TV with rabbit ors, watching crappy
Speaker 4: black and white footage you know, from the Moon, which
Speaker 4: was you know, had its own problems in here and
Speaker 4: in the broadcast, and I think about these things, you know,
Speaker 4: the blast off and every the things we used to
Speaker 4: watch on TV that you know now it's I don't know,
Speaker 4: people just don't. It was a whole lot harder to
Speaker 4: be able to witness history.
Speaker 3: Well when we were growing up.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. But then again there was a transition
Speaker 2: because I'm a little younger than you, uh Like, for instance,
Speaker 2: I in school, I watched the Space Shuttle blow up.
Speaker 4: Right, I was gonna say that was probably the next
Speaker 4: big thing that I could remember that people you know,
Speaker 4: saw happen on TV.
Speaker 3: Was the challenger explosion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but for me that's nineteen eighty six, I think
Speaker 2: because I was in I was in middle school, but
Speaker 2: it was like a big special thing that we we had,
Speaker 2: you know, an actual cable tie in. They put it
Speaker 2: on and we were able to watch the launch and
Speaker 2: we did in school and boom, the shuttle blew it
Speaker 2: and nobody knew what the hell we were looking at.
Speaker 2: At first, it was like, what something went wrong? Yeah, like,
Speaker 2: you know, all of a sudden, this smoke went sideways
Speaker 2: and it formed like it looked like it formed a
Speaker 2: smoke ring, and it was like, that's not the way
Speaker 2: that's supposed to look. I know, I've seen other Shuttle launches,
Speaker 2: and that was the challenger.
Speaker 4: Think about the technology change between the old Saturn rockets
Speaker 4: and the Space Shuttle.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, and and the technology change the access
Speaker 2: to broadcast. You know, it was a big deal that
Speaker 2: they showed the what the Royal Wedding live? And what
Speaker 2: was that seventy nine or eighty when I was you know,
Speaker 2: still I was in grade school then and I didn't
Speaker 2: watch it, but I knew that a lot of people
Speaker 2: did watch it live and it was you know broadcast.
Speaker 2: Why a satellite and that was a big.
Speaker 4: Look at the broadcast now for the Super Bowl compared
Speaker 4: to what it was when the first one was played.
Speaker 4: I mean, you basically had a black and white game
Speaker 4: with none of the fancy stuff, and now it's what
Speaker 4: eighteen hour production.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think they had a color I think
Speaker 2: they had a color broadcast. But you know, the majority
Speaker 2: of people, probably in our country still had a lot
Speaker 2: of black and white TVs.
Speaker 3: But I think the Super Bowl I can remember was
Speaker 3: in black and white.
Speaker 4: I remember watching the Daytona five hundred and the Firecracker
Speaker 4: four hundred black and one.
Speaker 2: Look it up though, because I'm pretty sure it was
Speaker 2: broadcasting color. You probably had a black and white TV.
Speaker 3: I mean, popol, let's see check it out. We got
Speaker 3: it now. I was born in sixty so I was
Speaker 3: watching super bowls on for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we see first but I mean the Jets one,
Speaker 2: super Bowl three or whatever, right, I mean, so that
Speaker 2: was sixty nine when Joe Namath won. So I mean
Speaker 2: the first Super Bowl was what sixty six or something
Speaker 2: like that, you know, again going from mem but if
Speaker 2: you look it up. Anyways, Danny, you got anything you
Speaker 2: want to drop in, We'll be pizza looking to see
Speaker 2: if they broadcast the first Super Bowl in color.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I watched the first My memory was it was
Speaker 5: about sixty nine and it was we had a black
Speaker 5: and white TV. It was a couple of years later
Speaker 5: we probably got a color TV. But oh yeah, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of a lot of events. I mean, super
Speaker 5: Bowl was a big deal. But it's it's like you said,
Speaker 5: it's an eighteen hour event. It's quite a show.
Speaker 9: Well it also wasn't It all goes on all week
Speaker 9: with all the festivities with the sports they had the
Speaker 9: Super Bowl, and.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you they weren't paying allion. I guarantee you
Speaker 2: they weren't paying a million dollars a minute for you know,
Speaker 2: for commercial time or whatever they paid.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, the commercials. Yeah, but they have a what's
Speaker 5: called a media road because my son was involved with
Speaker 5: the Fox Sports News well at that time he had left,
Speaker 5: but he knew a lot of people there putting up
Speaker 5: the some of the radio broadcast. So I remember he
Speaker 5: went down there, you know what. I think he was
Speaker 5: living in San Francisco at that time, and there was
Speaker 5: a yeah he was, So he went down to the
Speaker 5: media role to go, you know, hang with some old
Speaker 5: co workers. So yeah, it's it's it's a week long
Speaker 5: all the festivities. I mean, you know the city that's hosting.
Speaker 2: But having been from the New York New Jersey area,
Speaker 2: I just remember that that was like Super Bowl three
Speaker 2: maybe in sixty nine when the Jets won, because that
Speaker 2: was name it never had the big Super Bowl or
Speaker 2: name one.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 5: That was a big upset too.
Speaker 2: Beat the Colts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they did the cults. Speaking of that, I mean,
Speaker 5: maybe if I get enough time to call him local show,
Speaker 5: I've got a debt to pay back. I owe some
Speaker 5: people some dirty dollars.
Speaker 2: You were you were in on that.
Speaker 5: Yes, I went because you said, here's the thing with
Speaker 5: me with Betty, I can use it, you know, like
Speaker 5: pick if I'm having fun.
Speaker 7: Debt.
Speaker 5: Once I money on it and it proves me why
Speaker 5: it don't gamble, I lose, And and all I'm gonna
Speaker 5: say about the game, that defensive line gave the Chiefs
Speaker 5: offensive line of biblical beat down.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was pretty severe.
Speaker 3: I mean they think the brakes off of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so I was.
Speaker 2: A little Yeah, no, I got you. So BP did
Speaker 2: you find out if they broadcast that in color?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was in color. I don't see it in color.
Speaker 2: Probably NBC. Uh. I think NBC used to make a
Speaker 2: big deal because that was the whole point of that
Speaker 2: peacock ridiculous peacock logo. They had to show you we're
Speaker 2: we're in color.
Speaker 3: Uh Yeah, And by sixty was what the packers and colts,
Speaker 3: wasn't it?
Speaker 2: I think? So that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Well, wasn't called super Bowl? Then?
Speaker 4: It was the AFC NFC champion or ANFL NFL Championship.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well you know again I was. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm born in seventy two, so what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: I didn't get to see the Miracle Mets either, which
Speaker 2: is interesting. The Mets and the Jets won the same
Speaker 2: year in sixty nine there, which is interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sixty seven was the first year and it was
Speaker 4: the AFL NFL World Championship.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: After that it became a super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So, Danny, anything you want to throw in before I
Speaker 2: led Jimmy loose on the line.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got to figure out how to pay my bet.
Speaker 5: And then also too, I do remember the Mets, that
Speaker 5: miracle Mets team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I became a Mets fan as a kid,
Speaker 2: and you know, and wound up getting hold of it.
Speaker 2: It was actually expensive for me to get hold of
Speaker 2: the videotapes to actually watch that series. Somewhere around eighty
Speaker 2: nine or ninety I think I bought the videotapes for it.
Speaker 2: Of the series.
Speaker 5: I'm sure you enjoyed it, Oh I did. I did.
Speaker 2: It was quite quite the interesting game. Nolan Ryan was
Speaker 2: a relief pitcher, you know, with the sixty nine Mets.
Speaker 3: Don't care a boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, interesting team, you know. So anyways, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: let Jimmy loose back on the line. But Magnificent Desolation.
Speaker 2: By the way, Jimmy, that was the that was the
Speaker 2: queue there, And yeah it was buzz Aldron. Both of
Speaker 2: you got buzz Aldron and v Pete almost got the
Speaker 2: quote right. But at least it shows that at some
Speaker 2: point he was exposed to that information. So I feel
Speaker 2: better now, Jimmy, you and Danny are both on the line,
Speaker 2: and you guys could talk to each other, or you
Speaker 2: could lay something out. It's all up to you. I
Speaker 2: got a few minutes left, I think you here. Let
Speaker 2: me see. Oh, we're just about at the end, So
Speaker 2: go ahead, throw in whatever you want to throw in.
Speaker 3: I got a question for Jimmy. What's this I hear
Speaker 3: about you picking the chiefs?
Speaker 4: Yeah, to win?
Speaker 1: I said, I wanted the Eagles to win, but I
Speaker 1: didn't think they had a chance. There you go, Well
Speaker 1: this is way more importantly, Noah, I need to we
Speaker 1: need to discuss this Ben Canoby situation.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 1: Now, do you recall when he was on the ice planet, yes?
Speaker 2: Or no, Chuck, when he was on the ice plant.
Speaker 1: Not him, I mean Luke.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Luke Skywalker.
Speaker 5: I mean Luke Luke sky Yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I remember he was hallucinating.
Speaker 5: Then he seemed the little Obi Wan and he.
Speaker 1: Says, Luke, you must go to the Daga boss system
Speaker 1: and go Ceyoda, my former instructor. See that's another lie.
Speaker 1: Obi Wan Kenobi is a constantly lion. Guy's got a
Speaker 1: problem with the truth, always lying. His instructor was not Yoda.
Speaker 1: He's always lying. Has bought off man. What's up with
Speaker 1: that guy?
Speaker 2: That's right? He was the pupil of Qui gon Jin.
Speaker 2: I saw the prequels, right.
Speaker 1: What with this guy? He's always lying, telling Luke to
Speaker 1: his dad's dad when he's Darth Vader. This guy's got
Speaker 1: a real problem with the truth. How'd he even get
Speaker 1: into the Jedi order.
Speaker 2: All over the place? I don't know, he's all over
Speaker 2: the place, man, uh you know. And and also he said,
Speaker 2: oh I discovered him as a student, and that's not
Speaker 2: even true. Anakin Skywalker was initially picked up by Qui
Speaker 2: gon Jin, not him. He wasn't in charge of that.
Speaker 2: He was a paddle on himself. He lied about all
Speaker 2: kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: The crazy old ben Canoby. Ooh, look at me, look
Speaker 1: at me?
Speaker 2: Yep. What did uncle uncle Owen call him, that crazy
Speaker 2: old wizard, right.
Speaker 6: Something like that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I telling you all your life, stay away
Speaker 1: from that crazy old wizard. He's out of his mine
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he.
Speaker 9: Lies a lot.
Speaker 2: Hey listen, if you're living in the desert all by
Speaker 2: yourself with nothing but those uh weird people around that
Speaker 2: make that noise, I mean, you know, what are you
Speaker 2: gonna do?
Speaker 1: Same people?
Speaker 5: Yeah, the sands what he called.
Speaker 2: That's right. See, he was a liar and he was racist.
Speaker 1: He really was. He had a lot of problems to
Speaker 1: be a Janet. Well, it would take a real screwed
Speaker 1: up guy to make Darth Vader.
Speaker 2: There you go, listen, if you wind up turning your
Speaker 2: student into Darth Vader, I mean you messed up somewhere.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, right, yeah, thanks all that, Danny, Danny,
Speaker 2: do you disagree with any of this? Ben Kenoby's crazy
Speaker 2: and lies a lot. What do you say?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: I never, I never never thought of it that way.
Speaker 5: I learned something tonight. I'm gonna be thinking about it.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be thinking about that quite a bit. I
Speaker 5: never even thought of that.
Speaker 2: You know, he's all over lice, He's all over the place.
Speaker 5: Man, you're produced. Yes, if you produced Darter, you do
Speaker 5: have a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. Hey did you did you ever
Speaker 2: see the Chappelle show skit about star Wars?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 5: No, never did?
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's crazy. They turn around and do like
Speaker 2: a they do like a you know, like a boy
Speaker 2: molestation scandal among the jedis. Oh no, oh no, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's pretty it's pretty crazy. It's not one of
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle's best known bits, but it's it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: Everybody remembers. Everybody remembers I'm Rick James, but they don't
Speaker 2: necessarily remember that one. Yeah, I'm Rick James, which you know,
Speaker 2: and then even better, they had Rick James on the
Speaker 2: show after Charlie Murphy told the story. I always loved that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I must be.
Speaker 2: Out of my mind talking about how Charlie Murphy kicked
Speaker 2: my ass. Cocaine's a hell of a drug. I used
Speaker 2: to love using that meme on people when they would
Speaker 2: start talking crazy online. Just bring out the the meme
Speaker 2: with Rick James that just says, cocaine is a hell
Speaker 2: of a drug.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna steal that one.
Speaker 2: You should, you should? I want people to bring it back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a great response.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my response was always I remember when I when
Speaker 5: I had my first spear too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, my my absolute ultimate favorite is can
Speaker 2: I buy weed from you? But you know, but people
Speaker 2: don't always get that one, you know, because it's like, dude,
Speaker 2: you how high are you to think this? You know,
Speaker 2: like they don't get it. That's the funny part is
Speaker 2: the people that I'm usually trying to insult, they don't
Speaker 2: get the insult. It's like I don't smoke weed. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you don't.
Speaker 5: Well, maybe you just can't insult them.
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, you did it anyways, all right, guys,
Speaker 2: look we're gonna close out this one because it is
Speaker 2: time to do that, actually past time. Be Pete. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give you the final word, though we still got
Speaker 2: you know, timing up for that, so go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well, I just appreciate everybody calling in tonight and as usual,
Speaker 4: go to Chelli Effect and get the donate button. Every
Speaker 4: little bit helps, and there's a lot of people that
Speaker 4: you hear calling in and that that did actually do that.
Speaker 4: So urge everybody out there, even if you're catching this
Speaker 4: podcast down the road and not listening to it live,
Speaker 4: all donations help. It's not cheap to be able to
Speaker 4: put this thing on, and Chuck carries his stuff on
Speaker 4: his back, so get the man of break Stick crowbar
Speaker 4: and your wallet and help things out. Yeah, to tell
Speaker 4: you and that I appreciate everybody calling in and looking
Speaker 4: forward to doing it next week.
Speaker 2: No me too, And look to tell you the truth,
Speaker 2: we got a couple of heavy bills that are going
Speaker 2: to come up now. I partially paid for the website
Speaker 2: in advance, but two heavy bills come up on April fifteenth,
Speaker 2: and I know it sounds like that's the ways of
Speaker 2: way because it's almost two months away tomorrow is actually
Speaker 2: the anniversary of the first time The Ocel Effect went
Speaker 2: live anywhere. But I did podcasts in twenty thirteen, but
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, February fifteenth was the first time I went live.
Speaker 2: And you know, since then, I took on my own
Speaker 2: network and you can still twenty four to seven. You
Speaker 2: got replays of the shows old and new sometimes and
Speaker 2: other special broadcasts and things on there and all that.
Speaker 2: I try and keep running, but it's independent and it
Speaker 2: costs some money, so you know, if you can help
Speaker 2: out with that and keep it going, I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: really in danger of not being able to keep it
Speaker 2: going by April fifteenth, so if you can during this
Speaker 2: time period especially, it would be extremely helpful. Those are
Speaker 2: the big bills. I pay bills every month, but the
Speaker 2: big bills come once a year, and that's for the
Speaker 2: website thing that actually allows us to distribute the podcast,
Speaker 2: so you know, it would be helpful. I canceled the
Speaker 2: Patreon thing. It's just PayPal, make a donation there or
Speaker 2: make an arrangement with me somehow, and I'll be more
Speaker 2: than happy to accept any assistance with keeping this going.
Speaker 2: So I want to thank you and thank Pete. Pete
Speaker 2: and thank the callers and all you guys for listening,
Speaker 2: because after all, I am merely o'celli, and all of
Speaker 2: you are