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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to That's Non Mettal, your weekly rock,

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heavy metal, hardcore punk music podcast. We are back this

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week with a hyperblass edition of news shows, letting you

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know everything's gone on in the past week or so,

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and today is a bit of a kind of a

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catch up, gangs back together kind of moment. I feel

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like we've all got, you know, some things to report on,

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I guess from the last little while. So with me,

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my name is Baran Haish. With me, we've got Mark

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Sanders and Nello Mark, what the fuck is this not

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talk to I believe it or not? No, And we

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also have Sam Dignon, who had returned from the other

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side of the world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, back from Japan. I was a busy two weeks

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so I was off seeing Japan, going on this dream

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holiday when it's gone for years. But yeah, I'm back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so backer than ever, Absolutely backer than ever. Obviously.

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Last week myself and Elliott handled the reviews and we

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talk about a whole bunch of a new records that

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came out towards kind of the end of September, from

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you know, unto others, the Black Dahlia Murder, Harriet All sorts.

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Speaker 2: Of good albums. I was gind have missed some of

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those reviews really, like Harriet like until I was Black

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Darling in particular ones. I was like, I've got opinions

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on those albums, but yeah, good albums.

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Speaker 1: Do you mean you weren't really really stoked to be

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talking about vended.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to, like, I don't want to show

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on them because they are a bad.

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Speaker 1: Who make me feel absolutely it's not bad. It's fine anyway, Sam.

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Obviously you were in Japan, I guess, and I know

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that you went to like, you know, a couple of

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shows and stuff while you're out there, and I guess

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that's kind of interesting, you know, even beyond the bands

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that you saw, just kind of from a cultural standpoint,

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What was it like going to, like, you know, a

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hardcore show over there? But before we get onto you know,

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those specifics, did you have just any general cool like

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TNM relevant experiences or discoveries while you were over there.

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I'm not talking about dand and all that shit.

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Speaker 2: But but like I always say, recommended by a friend

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of the podcast, Ryan the God's Bar in Shinjuku, which

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is just this like really cool grebow like metal bar

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like dingy basement bars, the Coolest Vibe. Had a great

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time that And there was another one went to which

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are Commember, the name of which was more of like

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a like punk worn. It was a dorm like Rancid

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and Misfit posters. They let me request Brough Springsteen. I

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was having the time of my life. There loads of

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really cool record stores. There's just one Nerds Records, which

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is kind of linked to one of the gigs I

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went to, well the main Gil went to, but that's

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like a really cool hardcore record Obviously. Tower Records is

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like seven floors of all kinds of music, and they've

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got like a great sort of met on punk selection.

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But yeah, like did a lot of that, you know,

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and just kind of had an amazing time kind of

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about Tokyo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you listen to any of what was your

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Japan listening?

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Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I listened to some of the albums

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that we're kind of going to lead onto things that

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we're going on to ours enjoying a bit of winter Sun,

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you know.

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Speaker 1: Over time.

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Speaker 2: Two albums were like very felt very like appropriate fresh

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the countryside and it was so scenic fan and when

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we'll get like that tough like that, like time to

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those instrumental intro tracks, was like, this is what I

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should be listening to as I'm heading up there, I think,

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just you know, I just I didn't listen to those music,

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so I was kind of just always busy doing stuff,

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but it was it was cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So tell us about the bands you went to

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go see when you were in Japan. Was what was

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the vibe like going to you know that show?

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amazing accidental first night thing of after going to God's

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this bar and there's a little like they have a

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venue next door to it, and when were like our

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first so we're still kind of jet and we've had

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civil trips. One next door to see a random local

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Japanese band. I couldn't hear their name anything, and they

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were like, does here like email? And I was like yeah,

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and they started playing the Black Parade and I was like,

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never been here a day. And then watching some local

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band cover the Black Parade and then cover Faint by

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Lincoln Park. That was amazing. Oh yeah, the actual gig

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games up going to was only going to see No

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Pressure and Regulate. So annoyingly, there was a massive hardcore

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festival the day we were flying out in Tokyo, like

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headlined by Comeback Kid. It's the close thing to like

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along with local hardcore bands. I think they had like

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like I say, No Pressure and Regulate were part of

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this package. And then after it they announced all these

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sort of side shots who were like, well, you know

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we've missed the big hardcore them, but let's get to

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one of these sort of side shows. And like I

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I've never got to see them, so I was like,

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this would be a cool one. And also it'd be

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cool to see Japanese hardcore, which was what the free

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one pop punk band and two Harker bands are the openers.

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So it was one of those was like, let's go

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see what a Japanese hargo show is like. And I

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mean firstly, like Japanese harkle crowds. They go insanely hard

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whilst being insanely polite about it. It's really funny like

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they all like go so hard they'll be like flinging

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their bodies off stage like they their lives didn't pin,

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like they don't care about injury. But then they'll also

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be like, oh, you know, if they hit you, they're sorry,

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and it's like yeah, cool, good vibes. So first up

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was this Japanese pop punk band called Castaway who actually

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look again like my feelings were pop punk are you

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know it up and down? But they were like decent

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for a kind of like small Tokyo pop punk band,

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like good sense of melody. They they kind of had

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like big melodic lead guitar parts and stuff like that,

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and it wasn't like the kind of like dingy rubbish

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pop punk that we all kind of like turn our

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nose and go like, oh, overproduced nonsense. They they clearly

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understand that like melody and sort of stuff like that

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is a big part of it. They were pretty good,

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and there seem to be a bit like an easy

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core thing going on in Japan because they had that

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kind of easycore breakdown moments in there as well. They

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were good fun and again they were first on at

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like six in the sixth evening and the route that

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was like a crowd there for them, and they had

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fans going hard, and I was like, man, opening bands

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in here, don't get that, Like if you want at

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six am six pm over here, that was gonna fucking

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go hard for you, like if you're especially for a

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pop punk. Man. It was cool. Mixed up was this

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band Truth by who they are like pure like hardcore.

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on the lineup, because like lots of comeback kid, lots

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of bits like Terror, all kind of just amalgamates of

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of field for eachpan. But they like really short songs,

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you know, rarely going over two minutes, all attack, all energy.

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I was like, you know what, I'm moshing for this.

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I'm getting in there swinging the fist around and having

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a good time. But they were they were cool, like

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just really high energy and again the crowd going off

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for them. Of the Japanese sort of harker bands, one

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who really sort of captured me. I mentioned them before

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I went who had been listened to is this band

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blow your Brains out there? They like just a really

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hard band like vocally is like massive, like which is

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again in Japan is kind of like startling because what

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we learned is like trance not built. People are six

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foot tall, like anyone else going to is like this

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is great. I'm seeing over everyone at these gigs and

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women like this land and stuff like that. But then

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I'm banging my head on like every other door frame.

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and I was like he just looks like a mean guy.

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the kind of like crusty a side to them at times.

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you want just like nasty, violent hardcore music, I would

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really recommend Given your Brains out go. And it was

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like no one's going and nobody I bought I might

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be the only person and you got this like t

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show of theirs now because I was like, they were

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just really cool, and I was like, honestly might be

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my favorite band of the whole thing, because I was

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just like, yeah, this is just what I love about hardcore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the other bands. You can see those

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bands over here, but like, was it fun seeing them

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in that kind of environment?

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melodic hardcore, straight edge. They are really cool. They've got

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one song they will go almost like almost like Cohen

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and Camera at their poppyist is not one of their

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songs kind of has that kind of thing to it,

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whether they'll do a little pivot stat but for the

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most part, it's just you know, big bouncy hardcore and

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then no pressure is Parker Cannon having fun And that's

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always just kind of like a nice thing to see.

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lot more over the years. But no pressure just seems

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to be him having a good time. And I mean again,

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like they're not really hard about that. Actually know ninety

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skate punk is no pressure, but I'm down for that.

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the crowd just did not stop throwing themselves around the

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entire time. I don't have ever seen a band like

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I said, the crowd will really polite. I don't think

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I've ever seen a band be so like mercilessly bullied

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into doing an encore like they know what they wouldn't

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leave like they were just like they finished the said

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they were like well done, and it was like, you know,

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forty minute half or set great and then going like

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no play another song? They just would have stopped out

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and there they were like we rehearsed another song, and

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and slightly sloppily playing through one more song. They thought

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like going to a hard and show in another country, Like,

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that's not a festival, it's just a really cool vibe anti.

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thing you'd get to, like the underworld in Shinjuku, like

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just a dingy basement. Then you like the tour post

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around these sorts of looking the bands you've played there,

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have been through here. That must have been like really cool.

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it was really cool to you know, go and experience

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to will lead into our first major news story here.

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But it has been a good time for you know

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tours over here, my goodness, because I have seen some

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sensational sets in the last couple of weeks. I want

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to start by shouting out Orange Goblin, who I went

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to see a couple of nights ago. Amusingly the larger

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venue right opposite on the street Jet were playing, and

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Orange Goblin, I can assure you, was better than a

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monkey peeing into its own mouth. Not only that, but

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Conan too as support, who I've said many times on

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this show, one of the heaviest bands in the world,

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and every time you see them they cave your bones

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into dust. John Davis, not that one, but you know,

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one of the masters of the minimalist heavy riff, like

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two all three notes that will compel you to bang

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your head, their wonderful assembly of kind of obscure eighties

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animated fantasy movie clips behind them, just like all fucking

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wizard barbarian shit, and then Johnny King on drums like

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an actual barbarian. That would be enough. But Orange Goblin

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are on really good form if you catch them at

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the moment, because the album they're promoting right now is

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super strong. I don't know if they actually this is

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actually intentional or not, but to me it almost seemed

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to play up the fact that they were doing in

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October tour at the start, because they had this like

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halloweeny green lighting, like lighting up their big Orange Goblin

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name at the back, and then they came out and

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open with Cemetery Rats, which is this like outrageous ripper,

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kind of like horror punk metal tune of their new record,

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really good, and then straight into Scorpionica, which has one

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of the greatest stone of rock riffs, just a proper

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like rip through the catalog, quite a few deeper cuts

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actually instead of you know, something obvious ones. But they're

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just I was really infectious band, like proper dedicated rock guys,

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so clearly enjoying themselves. Masters of the Black Sabber. Second

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half of a song, they're grooving part ben a front

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man that you definitely don't have to worry about not

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being able to see if you're short and standing at

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the back, because very very very large man. And when

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we talk about individual brilliance as well, like Orange Goblin

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are like low key one of those bands where every

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member is at it. Like when we talk about the

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greatest desert rock riffers. We should be talking about Joe

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from Orange Goblin. When we talk about the great kind

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of hard rock groovesmen with you know, unconventional and creative parts,

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we should mention Chris Turner the best voices in that style.

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Ben Ward like, they definitely should be playing the bigger

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shows than than Jet. The week before that, I mentioned

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last week I've been seeing the big Cannibal Corpse tour

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which came through.

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Speaker 2: Annoyed that happens go right as I was going to Japan.

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I was like, God, damn it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, something of a religious event around these parts whenever

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Cannical Corps do their big tour and package. I don't

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think there's maybe much surprise in me telling you that

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that bill top to bottom was just predictably brilliant, you know,

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wady municipal waste. Do they fuck you up? You know,

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even on a bill where they were like the outlier

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band in terms of heaviness, people just obviously were like,

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well in for it. Immolation have become one of my

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very favorites of the old guard death metal bands to

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see live because they are so fucking heavy, just like

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so absolutely demolishingly brutal and unforgiving. I was really happy

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to get another chance to see them because they maybe

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don't pop up here so often as like a Cannibal

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Corpse or like an Obituary or someone, particularly on their

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latest album as well, which I still think is outstanding,

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and in terms of like all of those like older

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death metal bands, I think they are currently touring the

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best record and the one before that is killer as well,

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just like the most demented, aggressively unfriendly riffs throughout their set,

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and Cannibal Corps has only actually been about eighteen months

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since the tour supporting Violence I imagined over here because

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of COVID kind of staggering everything all now, which again

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I was really glad I got to see like that

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tour because this time they were only down to inhumane

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harvest being in the set here from that but like

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just always the most confoundingly incredible live band in death metal.

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It was actually like the day immediately before Eric Rutan

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had to fly home to deal with his house being

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destroyed by the hurricane over there, so best of blood

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to him. But man, while he was there, they were ripping.

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If you were a big you know, Chao's Horrific Fan.

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The recent record, they had the title track and Summon

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for Sacrifice in the set No Fucking More An opening

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with blood Blind, which was the lead single from it,

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and then into Scourge of Iron from that, and like,

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I would imagine that will reclaim its spot as opener

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sooner rather than later, because like that that's the one,

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that's how you do it. But you know, for a change,

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blood Blind in that spot brutally heavy of course, grind was.

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There's that really cool part in that song where he

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goes like subdue Gate, subdue Gate, subdue Gate, but he

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kind of brings his microphone closer to his mouth with

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each one, which I've and it's a weird trick I've

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never seen him do before. But at critics his cool

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effects in the song. One of those shows where they

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played like, you know, a whole bunch of the canical

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cop songs that they will always play, and I was thinking, like, yeah, cool,

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these are all standards, I know, all these maybe not

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the most surprises, and at the end I realized there

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actually had been. There's a few shakeups in there. Staring

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through the Eyes of the Dead was the one that

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I popped for because I don't think no if I've

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seen them do that before, and I get for whatever

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reason again the songs that they'd left out A Viscerration

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Plague stuck in my head during the show as like

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the big one that they hadn't got around to actually

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play in. And I turned to my friend at the

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end of the show and I was like, yeah, no,

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is Vistressian Plague tonight and he went yeah, no, I

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come Blood, And it dawned on me. I was like,

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you're right, they didn't play the jump Blood and then

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thinking further, no skullfull of Maggots, No devoured by vermin.

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They played death Walking Terror in like the kill slot,

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but no make them suffer, So you know, maybe go

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like you do. Got to appreciate every Cannical Corps song

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when you see them, because there won't be too many

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guarantees beyond a particularly rowdy version of Hammers smash Face

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at the end. I must say amazing to see a

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death metal show in a venue as large as you know,

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the Victoria Warehouse in Manchester, that's where like Trivium and

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Gajira and machine Head play. It was quite surreal to

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be seeing a full blown extreme metal tour and like

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sold out as well. Fucking yeah, really awesome. The show

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I have to report on that's maybe the most out

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of the ordinary is I actually I got a ticket

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to see Frank Carter fronting the sex Pistols when they

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expanded that show to like a full blown national tour

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on like a fairly short notice, Like you know, they

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announced it like a week after they did that first one,

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and the tickets immediately went on sale whatever, and I

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was like, I'm gonna go for her, gonna do it,

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and this was sensational. Well, like we we never really

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talk about the sex Pittals on this show, shockingly considering

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they are like arguably the most significant band in the

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history of punk, turning into like a mainstream cultural force,

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like globally recognized around the world, you know, reimmersing myself

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back into like the history of the sex Pistols. Going

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into this, I was like, man, like, I know there

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are some reasons why, you know, certain T and M hosts,

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and maybe the audience might not be referencing the sex

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Pistols like all the time and viewing it as like

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super us, but like the history of this is fucking

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like beyond or anything else. Like that would be like

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what a goliath of an album club that would have

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to turn out to be. You know, but I am

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an enjoyer of you know, the sex Pistol's music. They

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were probably you know, past like Green Day or someone

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like the first kind of older punk band who I

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you know, heard of and and got into. You're the same,

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right Mark, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, A big fan like I.

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Speaker 3: I bought never Mind the Bollocks when I was like twelve,

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I you know, you know, Cosplay punk holders shit. People

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say those songs are just bangers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I gain this would stray into that

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like that whole mega album club territory. But I think

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the history of it is very like it's it's not

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black or white either way, Like it's not cutting dry

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are one thing or another. It's a whole insane cultural

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miasma of things going on. But you know, like I

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don't listen to the Megarot in these days. But I

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had just never ever considered that I would have the

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possibility of seeing those songs live until we got you know,

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Rick Astley sings the Smiths for balding men in torn

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up union jackshirts like and genuinely this was like so

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great as like a you know, a reawakening in me

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of like oh shit, yeah, the sex pistols and with

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you know, the superior ginger on vocals. The thing getting

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in the way of the sex pistols these days, you

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know it is Leiden. And if you want to like

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you know, swap someone in, obviously you know it's not

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really the sex pistles in the same way. But if

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you want to swap someone in to just inject some

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like physical energy back into those tracks, your dream scenario

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is Frank Carr, Like I wouldn't want to see this

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show with anyone else but Frank Carter really and you know,

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true to form, You've got like you know, the three

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old Hands, the actual sex pistol at the back, just

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really holding it down playing those songs. Well, Frank spends

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most of it in the crowd, on the crowd, on

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the sound desk, like wherever. There's a really funny moment

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when one song ends and Frank is just like lost

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in the pit somewhere and Steve Jones starts calling out

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for him, like Frankie, where are you are you staying

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out there for the next one? And Frank's like it,

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what's the next one no feelings, Oh definitely, it just

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goes right back in. It was like proper like chemistry

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between them where you could tell they actually like each

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other and like hanging out with each other, which is

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why this thing is you know occurring and you know,

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inciting these huge sing alongs for songs. Obviously everybody there

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has like culturally ingrained into their DNA. They obviously they

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played the whole of never Mind the Bollocks, not in order,

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but they did open with Holidays in the Sun, which

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was so fucking good. Throwing a few more kind of

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like you know, deeper cut b side non album type

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sex pistol songs as well, Silly Thing was fucking great.

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Digging out the old Stooges cover that they used to

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do No Fun really really fucking cool. They roped God

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Save the Queen, just in the fucking middle somewhere like

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no fanfare at all, just turn. It's like, oh fucking hell,

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and it was the most alive those songs have sounded

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in years. And Frank, as you know, obviously the front

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man and the band, the mouthpiece of the band, but

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also recognizing the fact that he is kind of you know,

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the outside and not actually a part of that legacy

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in the same way he kind of still on the

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side at one point and Jester to the other guys

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and was like, you know, give it up for the

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greatest punk band of all time. It's like, I literally

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think that Frank himself was in one that is better.

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But yeah, in terms of like, you know, the occasion

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and the cultural specter that they cast and everything, it

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was like, damn, yeah, like this is awesome and you

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getting to like stand there and say that is awesome.

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It was. Honestly, it was so good something that I assumed,

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would you know, that would be my one time to

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kind of catch it. Maybe it could well turn out

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to me. I don't know, but you know, if it

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does pop up again anywhere and you're wondering if it's

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like worth seeing, the answer I would give is if

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you like those songs, definitely. And this brings us to

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the quite surprising news this week that Frank Carter and

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the Rattlesnakes have announced that they are going to be

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going on hiatus immediately following their upcoming you know, European

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tour that they are doing. And then again there's a

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little statement that's been put out on their Instagram, which

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is kind of the usual, you know, thank everyone for

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being with us and supporting us and enjoying all these

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years of albums and shows and all that kind of stuff.

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But I have to say I'm certainly even though again

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we might have a conversation here about where the Rattlesnakes

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have been, where they've been on the up, on the down, whatever,

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but I am taken aback by the news that the

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Rattlesnakes are going to be at least again. We don't

476
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,920
know if this is a temporary hates or what, but

477
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,799
at least for now calling it a day. So what

478
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,519
do you guys think?

479
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 2: I mean? For me, it was like, this is the

480
00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:58,960
longest a single Frank Car project has kind of run

481
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,240
in its day. Yeah, it almost like where he's like,

482
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,160
this is it now, this is what Frank cart and

483
00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:07,200
this is him now until he's done with music. I

484
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,079
was kind of kind of like, obviously the two major

485
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,079
points for that, Pure Love and Gallows, they were not

486
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,640
like long like Gallows was went for a couple of years.

487
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,279
Pure Love was pretty one and done. So when Rattle states,

488
00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:22,839
as in George, as long as it has nearly ten years,

489
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,680
I thought this might be, you know, kind of like

490
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,759
his sort of thing. So I was I was surprised

491
00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:31,400
to see that they were calling again, and my immediate

492
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,559
thing and I don't think this will happen, but joking

493
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,559
was kind of like, oh, we're getting the sex Pistols album.

494
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,200
But uh, yeah, it's just it was kind of an

495
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,160
odd one. Yeah.

496
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,279
Speaker 3: I feel like the Rattlesnakes in general are so interesting

497
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,319
to sort of dissect and think about because the last

498
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,359
record came out, I had no idea there even was

499
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,839
a new Rattle Snakes album coming out until like two

500
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,920
days after it did come out, because they've just sort

501
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,880
of evolved to be in a completely different world from

502
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,559
where I live. So I just sort of assumed, well,

503
00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:10,960
they must be doing well over there because I remember

504
00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:14,920
putting the album on and recognizing, oh, I've heard a

505
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,400
couple of these songs on the radio.

506
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what I assume that.

507
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 3: They were, like, you know, thriving in another area, and

508
00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:28,680
this news is very interesting. I have like, is Frank

509
00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:31,640
gonna do something else musical? Like what's going to happen?

510
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, certainly to go to what Sam was saying,

511
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,680
I agree. I felt that, you know, the Rattlesnakes. It

512
00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:41,759
certainly felt that Frank had found a home. You know,

513
00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:44,599
obviously his name is the start of the bad I know,

514
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:47,640
like him and him and Dean were the main you know,

515
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,839
they think they thank the other members of the Rattlesnakes,

516
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,839
but they it clearly it's if the Rattlesnakes a going hiatus,

517
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:58,039
it's because Frank, Carter and Dean you know, don't aren't

518
00:23:58,079 --> 00:24:00,440
interested in currently you know, going forward with working together

519
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,799
in some capacity, because those are you know, the driving

520
00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:06,200
forces that founded that band. But it certainly felt like,

521
00:24:07,319 --> 00:24:09,680
I think a long term kind of home for Frank

522
00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:12,079
that was able to evolve musically as well. It's not

523
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,680
like Gallows, where he felt he was kind of stuck

524
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,279
into a certain you know, angry visceral mode or whatever.

525
00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:20,079
The rat Snakes from, you know, blossom through to that.

526
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,319
Their u S record covered a lot of ground and

527
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,960
have a lot of shades emotionally to them. So you

528
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,039
felt like kind of whatever he wanted to do within reason,

529
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,079
you could probably do within the rattles Snakes.

530
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, That's why I thought it. Each album has

531
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,519
its own character. Again, like you can say which album

532
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,200
you prefer, you know which year the routes action like

533
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,920
the most, but because of like always kind of just

534
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,400
being like whatever Frank was filling at the time was

535
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,640
what the Route six could morph into, it felt like

536
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,359
he could have that longevity with it.

537
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we were joking a bit that when UNI

538
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,960
at six and still their support bands and inexplicably there's

539
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,880
someone on there called Heights using a very similar logo

540
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,519
to the Dean's old banded Heights, because Dean's reviving Heights.

541
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:04,359
I don't think that's the case of what's happening here.

542
00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:07,759
But yeah, we don't have a reason given for this,

543
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,480
which is I guess the immediate thing, like we don't

544
00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:15,440
know whether it is again maybe a schism between Frank

545
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,400
and Dean, a you know, just a let's kind of

546
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,920
call it there. We don't know if Dean's the initiator,

547
00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:23,599
we don't know if Frank is. As some people immediately

548
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,119
jump to receiving a call from somewhere larger, that would

549
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,359
maybe necessitate the retel's next being put on hold for

550
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,759
a while because of those reasons. Jumping to some of

551
00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:34,519
those conclusions, which we can discuss in just a moment,

552
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:38,400
seems a bit extreme, but we don't have the reasoning

553
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,039
right now, which makes it harder to go out. Yeah,

554
00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:43,720
but like on the let's say what you were saying

555
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:46,119
mark the kind of success Francho, you know, you assume

556
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,640
they were doing well. I think they were mostly because

557
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,079
again I'm looking at their their upcoming UK tour they're

558
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,559
doing before gun hiatus. It's only actually a Brighton and

559
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,799
a London date, and the London date is at the

560
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:02,119
Electric Ballroom, which is much smaller than I imagine the

561
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:05,559
Rats Necks to be. But looking back, I think it's

562
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,559
just an intentionally smaller show because they did for the

563
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,319
earlier exactly the Dark Rainbow tour. At the start this

564
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,119
year they played the Roundhouse, which is again the kind

565
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,119
of size that I would expect the routs Necks to

566
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,839
be doing. So I don't think you could say there

567
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,920
was a clear downturn in terms of interest or ticket sales,

568
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,880
at least within the demographics that he was kind of

569
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,480
mostly appealing to. I think we have discussed, you know,

570
00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:31,119
we discussed when that album came out at the start

571
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,119
this year that it does feel like, certainly since around

572
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,200
the third album, the Rattlesnakes have drifted away from like

573
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,559
you know, let's describe the kind of core TNM demographic

574
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,599
of like slightly hard and heavier stuff. The rat Snacks

575
00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:48,200
haven't been like super on our radar for the last

576
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:52,559
like couple of years, but I also thought that they

577
00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:54,759
were doing you know, they must have a clear, you know,

578
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,559
audience somewhere that was doing well. Yeah.

579
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: I think if the split is like something musical would

580
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:08,079
be insane to me because like, what would Frank want

581
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,960
to do that he couldn't do in the Rattle Snakes,

582
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,119
because he's, like you say, every album sounds different, has

583
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,160
this on vibe. He surely just did whatever he wanted

584
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,960
to do in the Rattle Snakes anyway, So if it

585
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:25,680
does come to light there was like musical differences, I'd

586
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:31,839
be really interested to see what happens next, really, because yeah,

587
00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:35,319
the Rattle Snakes always felt like sort of Frank's playground

588
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,680
to try whatever he wanted exactly that.

589
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess, you know, if we look to

590
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:43,680
some of the other kind of you know, the if

591
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,519
we assemble our lineup of potential outcomes here. Firstly, we

592
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:52,079
have the sex pistols, which would I be surprised if

593
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,240
there were some more sex pistol shows, maybe playing certain festival,

594
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:59,000
but turn the about Glastonbury or something. I certainly wouldn't

595
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,640
say it's out with the question if they announced that,

596
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,480
you wouldn't be like, oh my god, I can't believe

597
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,000
they're doing more. So I could see that happening for sure.

598
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,039
Do I think Frank Carter is going to become the

599
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,480
full time frontman or a like fully active again sex

600
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:18,319
Pistols or maybe again just those three guys with a

601
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,759
new band under a different name or whatever. I would

602
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:24,440
be very surprised. I would certainly be very surprised to

603
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,839
see Frank drop the band that he's built for ten

604
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,720
years and is primarily his own kind of creative entity,

605
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:35,680
to be the you know, the Miles Kennedy to sex

606
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,440
Pistols slash.

607
00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I just can't see that. I can

608
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:43,839
see them, you know, doing some US dates, doing Riyot first. However,

609
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:47,640
an actual sex Pistols album.

610
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:51,599
Speaker 1: That's they've probably got one album already, like you can't

611
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,200
do now.

612
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that was happening. That was like

613
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,359
gonna joking, O what's going on?

614
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,759
Speaker 1: But a lot of people will go, oh my god,

615
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:02,640
the Rattles thanks have like you know, broken up the

616
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,599
moment he starts singing for the sex Pistols. Maybe he's

617
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,839
received a massive financial offer or something, and maybe he

618
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,839
would I don't know. But like I said, in terms

619
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,319
of a long term scenario, would you drop your own

620
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,839
pretty viable band for a temporary thing of singing for

621
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,279
a bunch of really old guys, I would.

622
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: Say, So it's not you know, they're not officially broken up.

623
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know what I mean, as it is

624
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:30,039
length hiatus.

625
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there we go to the other options. I mean,

626
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:35,640
I don't even want to say fucking pure love because

627
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,240
that would be pure love and not coming back. That'd

628
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:42,599
be fucking demented. But obviously, you know, particularly around these parts,

629
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,720
we have a few people going, oh my god, could

630
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:47,119
it be a Gallows reunion? Which I think I think

631
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,680
it's probably safe to say. I think that the Wide

632
00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:53,079
Fronted Gallows has kind of run its course at this stage,

633
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,400
particularly now that alexis on fire, are back and making

634
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,079
albums and actively touring all over the world and everything.

635
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,680
As much as like I would love for that version

636
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,960
of that band to continue on and give us more stuff,

637
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,440
I have a feeling that that is done and Wade

638
00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:11,200
is not currently the singer in Gallows anymore, but you know,

639
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:16,400
everyone jumping to the Frank Carter in Gallows thing. Maybe

640
00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:18,480
again in the same way as like maybe the sets

641
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,480
will have more more show slided up a less likely scenario,

642
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:24,960
but maybe one day, as is always rumored, we could

643
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,960
get a reunion show. Because it's not one of those

644
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,119
cases like you know where they're on bad terms, like

645
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,160
Frank Carter if you follow them on it's Gramm or whatever,

646
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,359
like you know, Frank and Lags and everyone there. You know,

647
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,160
they're friends, and they they were going.

648
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:39,039
Speaker 2: To like they were going to the Route State shows

649
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:41,880
and always big enough Frank shows. Yeah, there's been good

650
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,279
positive sort of feelings between them, particularly the last couple

651
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:44,640
of years.

652
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, so could I see those guys getting on

653
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:50,640
stage together every now and then? You know, I'm not like,

654
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,119
you know, waiting around for it, But I don't think

655
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:54,559
it's out of the realm's possibility. Do I see Frank

656
00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:59,720
Carter again dropping the very successful probably in the long term,

657
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:03,480
so a lot more tickets than Gallows to go back

658
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:08,039
to the thing he initially tried to escape essentially, No,

659
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,240
I don't think that's happening either.

660
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I like, I say, I've seen the

661
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:18,319
Frank Carter's rejoining Gallows rumor like every year since about

662
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,240
twenty seventeen twenty eighteen. It is like one of those

663
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,640
things like someone else is like, what's happening this year,

664
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:25,519
Like that they're in talks and like is it though,

665
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,200
because this has just been an endless sort of roomor cycle,

666
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:32,119
And again, like I would lose my mind at the

667
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:34,759
possibility of Frank rejoining Gallows and getting to see those

668
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,000
like Great Britains, one my favorite albums of all time.

669
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,680
Again see those songs performed by Frank would be like,

670
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:43,519
holy shit, this is it. But again, is he going

671
00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:46,119
to drop the rottle sex for I don't think so

672
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,920
because again, what like outside of that initial big pop

673
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,000
for Frank rejoining Gallows, because we're discussing the discord, what's

674
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:55,319
the kind of like actual live drug gads And I

675
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,400
was like I was, I think initially it would be huge,

676
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,400
like within hardcore circles, it would be something bigger hard

677
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,720
cushes you'd see, but you would see immediate diminishing fills

678
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,359
like you have with every kind of like shot for

679
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,200
Union Leagy talk about like when Refuse come back you know,

680
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:10,039
that was a big deal and then just every time

681
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:12,240
it was smaller and smaller and smaller. I feel like

682
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:15,160
it would be the same thing with Frank Reinen joining Gallows.

683
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,039
So again, is that a long term sort of smart move?

684
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,920
Then keeping the Routs that's going through again like certainly

685
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,480
not as big as they are, you know, like I

686
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:27,000
think on them it was on the end of suffering

687
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,680
now at their peak doing like Alexander selling out Alexandra Palace,

688
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,440
and now they're kind of you know, selling out larger

689
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,720
size venues like the Roundhouse still, but that feels to

690
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,279
me like a sort of a steadier thing than the

691
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,440
kind of like big Bim Gallows that would just kind

692
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,519
of burn out quicker.

693
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, I can't see this.

694
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, And again even in terms of okay, what's our

695
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:52,200
other option? Then, does Frank come back with like another

696
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:54,279
new band, you know, Frank Carter and the King Cobras

697
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:58,519
or something. I in a weird way, that also feels

698
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:01,279
like almost like why, you know, like you've got the Rattlesnakes,

699
00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:01,920
Like why.

700
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:04,559
Speaker 2: They didn't have a set identity they had to fulfill

701
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:05,519
the rattle sake they could.

702
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: Say, Yeah, the only scenario that I think I could

703
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:12,359
see you know, uh, Frank coming back at least in

704
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,599
the immediate term, like let's say with the next year

705
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,000
or two with like another musical project. Is if he

706
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:20,160
had some kind of actual falling out with Dean or something.

707
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,039
But then again, they're like they're completing the tall and

708
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:24,559
every reason, so I don't know. I mean, in a

709
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:26,640
weird way, I feel like the most likely scenario is

710
00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:29,400
he might do some more shows with the Sex Pistols,

711
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,079
but he might actually kind of take a few years

712
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:35,599
off being like an active toury musician. You know, maybe

713
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,519
he wants to spend more time doing his art that

714
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,400
he's like is streaming on Twitch every single day. Maybe

715
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,839
he wants to, you know, spend more time with his

716
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,440
family and you know, be a tattoo artist and the

717
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:47,119
other things that he does do. Like, in a weird way,

718
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,039
I feel like Frank Carter kind of disappearing musically for

719
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,519
a few years and then maybe we get like a Rattlesnakes,

720
00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:56,160
you know, reunion in five years or something is kind

721
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,920
of more likely than something immediate with one of these

722
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:03,000
are the more obvious kind of candidates, which again I

723
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:04,599
am surprised to see, but I feel like out of

724
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,240
what we've got, that's what I would kind of put

725
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:09,760
my prediction on, just reflecting on the Rattlesnake. So yeah,

726
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,159
it's kind of funny because, as we said, they kind

727
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:12,400
of drift away from us a little. But that's not

728
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:14,400
for me to say that I think they ever got

729
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:20,280
particularly kind of you know, uh bad or disinteresting or whatever, like,

730
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,960
you know, because I think you know that the new record,

731
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,679
Dark Rainbow. Didn't spend a lot of time listening to it,

732
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,400
but there's some good songs.

733
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:25,519
Speaker 2: You know.

734
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:27,679
Speaker 1: That Man of the Hour single that they released is

735
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,599
a song that you know, I can recall is in

736
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,320
my head, Like that's a good tune, even Sticky, which

737
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,280
is probably their low point has you know, so I

738
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,800
can see what they were going for on it, and

739
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:37,519
we would moments, I.

740
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 2: Mean we're reviewing, we weren't like really negative on it.

741
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,119
You kind of like pointed out that there were things

742
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:42,599
that didn't work, and there were some songs that were

743
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:44,719
like catching fun and.

744
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: Overall, as you know, when you take the totality of

745
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,639
their catalog, I do respect exactly what we're saying, you know,

746
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,920
kind of it being a playground for them to kind

747
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,079
of you know, try some different stuff, whether that whichever

748
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:57,880
records you preferred or didn't prefer, and for some people

749
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,280
there's almost this kind of like revisionism that they got

750
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,840
bad immediately after Blossom or something, and it's like Modern Ruin.

751
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:07,760
They were absolutely the record was great, The shows all

752
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,840
along that cycle were fucking incredible. And then I really

753
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,239
like the third record as well, when they did start

754
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,239
to diversify the sound a lot more. But again there's

755
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,760
really good stuff on that record. I haven't seen the

756
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,960
Rattlesnake since the end of the Modern Ruin cycle, and

757
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:25,760
that's kind of more I don't know, it didn't line

758
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,119
up with me anymore, not even terms of musically, but

759
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,079
just in terms of like like literally after the Modern

760
00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:34,400
Ruined cycle, like I wasn't physically in the area I've

761
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,360
been seeing them, and then COVID happened, and then I

762
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,400
just haven't seen them, you know, post COVID on Sticky

763
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,360
or Dark Rainbow or whatever. So like they did kind

764
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,719
of for a boat I saw a lot in those

765
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,800
early years, particularly around Modern Ruin, they did kind of

766
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,039
quite immediately drop off in terms of the amount of

767
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:54,199
shows that I was seeing them at. But it is

768
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,719
quite strange to think about again, the end of the

769
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,320
modern Ruin cycle. The last time I saw them that

770
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,039
was I think it was the tour where in and

771
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:01,719
then they would do like a Bricks and Academy show.

772
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was at that Brixton show where they they

773
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,559
basically the whole thing was like we're playing every song

774
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:06,000
we've ever.

775
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,679
Speaker 1: Readen like exactly that tour, I remember it, Felix. There

776
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,960
was really something big happening with the Rouse Nakes, Like

777
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,760
they felt like a band who'd gone from just like

778
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,199
two years earlier or something like, you know, playing small

779
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,360
fucking punk shows to exploding in popularity like that. It

780
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,119
really felt like they were, you know, kind of sky's

781
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:25,719
the limit for them.

782
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I saw them one of their first

783
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,559
of the shows at the Fighting Cox in Kingston, which

784
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:31,559
is one hundred and fifty capacity venue. They had no

785
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,039
music out at this point, or I think they might

786
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:35,559
have put out like one single. I think like Fangs

787
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:37,039
might have dropped as their like first kind of like

788
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,960
taster and so like item there and then Tuesday, like

789
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,800
I say, selling out Bricks and Academy like and it

790
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:45,480
being like this, holy shit, the most exciting thing you

791
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:48,199
could you could be seeing and again that that they

792
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,440
still went up there like and the stuffing took them

793
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,400
to bigger place, that took them to Ali Palley. Like,

794
00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:55,639
so it was like, I mean the thing that rout

795
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,679
me is I have such a strong infinity for that

796
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,840
first album. It came out like the right time. I

797
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,440
was seeing them, like Timyings, I was going absolutely ape

798
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,400
shit those songs that each album driving away from that

799
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,280
did kind of make me kind of like I had

800
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,400
a little bit less interest in But it wasn't it

801
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,400
wasn't that they got worse. It was just I just

802
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,800
had such connect that first album. But yeah, I just

803
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,400
I say like it felt like people was kind of

804
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,199
did the revisionist thing and they got rubbish after the

805
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,000
first one or anything like that. And like even not

806
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:25,840
too long as when they were doing the download pilot,

807
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,800
people were still raving about them at that point as

808
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,880
kind of like when the bands of the Weekend at

809
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,400
that So it felt like even not too long ago,

810
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,000
there was still like, yeah, Franklin the Right is still

811
00:37:36,039 --> 00:37:36,519
that band.

812
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they were getting like on download posters, they

813
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,960
were getting big enough where they had the logo on

814
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:46,679
the poster that sort of thing. I never really was

815
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,440
a fan, like it just isn't for me, I guess,

816
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,079
But I remember I only saw them once at Slam

817
00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:56,440
Dunk twenty eighteen and periing You basically pestered me to

818
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,599
go see them, and I did. We were different parties,

819
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:01,880
were on the floor. I was sort of like the

820
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,800
balcony of the We Know, which was the main stage

821
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,760
that year, and I remember meeting you afterwards like, fuck,

822
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,239
they're gonna be the biggest band. That was incredible. I

823
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,599
was just salivating. I couldn't believe how good they were,

824
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,639
and I was like miles away from them.

825
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were. Again, I can't comment on the last

826
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,800
few years. They could well still be, but they certainly

827
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,960
were at the time that I was seeing them a

828
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:26,920
sensational live band. Whether you were that in on the

829
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,119
records or not, I think, yeah, I just think i'd

830
00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:33,440
be interested. I'm sure it will come out eventually through

831
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,840
some interview or another, but I'm interested basically to hear

832
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:41,199
you know what the thought process is here. Because I

833
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:44,800
can't see a particular I think this is almost more

834
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,920
like mythbusting, you know, like people I think are gonna

835
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,760
want to pin it down to a certain like people

836
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,159
stopped caring people, they stopped selling tickets, they got you know,

837
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,400
bad after the first couple of records or whatever. I

838
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:57,480
can't see a clear cut, obvious reason as to why

839
00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:01,880
they're out Snakes would call it here, and it certainly

840
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,760
doesn't mean, you know, that the call coming from the

841
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,239
sex Pistols or anything else. So yeah, I'm just interested

842
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,840
to see what more comes out of that.

843
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,079
Speaker 3: It could be pretty exciting when we get John Leyden

844
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:13,039
and the Rattlesnakes.

845
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dean and John met up in a bar somewhere,

846
00:39:18,199 --> 00:39:23,280
both feeling slated and formed that. Yeah, just in a

847
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,519
weird way, again, I hope the Battlestate has come back

848
00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:27,039
to me. And I was like, you know again, even

849
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:29,400
though I wasn't a huge fan for the last couple

850
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,559
of years. The thing that I can see happening is

851
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:34,000
basically Frank taking a few years off and then maybe

852
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,920
I would hope returning with something like a rejuvenated Routes

853
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,480
Snakes or whatever. But yeah, in a weird way, it's

854
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,880
almost like kind of a cap on a band who

855
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,840
in the UK music scene had been a significant big

856
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,800
name for you know, the last kind of ten years.

857
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,519
Summing up. So yeah, an interesting news coming out of

858
00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:52,960
the Ratlesnakes. Let us know what you think you know

859
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,679
it's going to happen with that? What Frank Carr is

860
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,079
going to do next? What a Frank Carter front Sex

861
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:01,639
Pistols Records would do? There we go. Let's move on

862
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,840
to Scowl. One piece of a new music for the

863
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,599
week is like a three minute track. Hell, it is

864
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,840
a song from Scowl. It is called Special. It is

865
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,280
their first release since the Psychic Dance Recycled Dancers, the

866
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,719
last piece of news that they've written. Sofa like they

867
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,639
are kind of I guess duw one. I suppose we

868
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,599
expect this I supposed to be on some kind of

869
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,639
new project eventually, not that it's been announced. Right now, Sam,

870
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,719
I'm gonna throw to you as a top Scowl enjoyer. Yeah,

871
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:30,559
what do you think?

872
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: I think this is wicked? I think, like again, like

873
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:37,039
the Scout on Psychic Dancing and starts to show they

874
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:40,920
were branching beyond hardcore, and this feels like they're kind

875
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,800
of like traving further down that kind of like fuzzy

876
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,760
sort of scars up a rock thing, but they're so

877
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,440
good at it, Like this reminds me of they're diet

878
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:53,639
like LIGHTLIGHTE but like when Milk Teeth were the band

879
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:59,679
that everyone was like so excited over this. Yeah, but again,

880
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,320
but this this feels looking a kind of a further

881
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,519
step down that route where it is it's got more

882
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:08,000
of that kind of like fuzzy guitar sound, big really

883
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:11,679
big chorus that kind of like cool, disinteresting thing going on.

884
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,280
I think is again really coming into as a vocalus,

885
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,880
where like her Clean's getting more confident. I think Scalar

886
00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:21,599
is like so good, and again there's still got enough

887
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,440
grit with that. You can see that they've they've still

888
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:25,639
kind of like got enough of a foot in hardcore

889
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:27,360
that it doesn't feel they're completely a band and that.

890
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:30,119
But yeah, I'm so in on this.

891
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is good. It hasn't hit me

892
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,559
in a way that the the best songs on that

893
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:36,920
EP have, but I think it's good and particularly again

894
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,559
you know, again I've made the multie clarisson before, but

895
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:42,400
I think on this song this feels in the riffing

896
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,480
so much more like hardcore obviously, and like you can

897
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:49,920
two step to the riff in this.

898
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,599
Speaker 2: It has that proper that's what I mean, like attacking

899
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:53,639
that in there.

900
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the vocal is much much like Woozier and

901
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:01,480
like even you know, obviously it's not her doing the

902
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:06,039
kind of much more animated singing that she maybe did

903
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:07,239
on tracks like.

904
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: What's the.

905
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: Opening Night That's the one I'm thinking where it's like

906
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,400
properly hectic. This is much more almost that kind of

907
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,360
like downcast half singing that like I guess most old

908
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:23,320
rock that punk bands kind of draw on and do,

909
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,480
and I kind of I don't want to lose scowl

910
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,599
to kind of turning into like one of those, you know,

911
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:30,960
kind of shoe gayzy type bands. But that vocal is

912
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:32,960
on top of, as I say, like a legit two

913
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:35,840
step riff and around it. She's still spitting and stuff

914
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,119
like that. So it's kind of an interesting, like get

915
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:40,519
your head around it kind of mix of elements.

916
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love this song. I've been listening to this

917
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:44,639
non stop.

918
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: It's so good.

919
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 3: It's got that, like you said, that lacks of daisical

920
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,519
like nineties cool kid I don't go a fuck vocal,

921
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:59,159
but she's still like you know, yeah, yeappping embarking in

922
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,880
the second verse. It's not like they've lost and then

923
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:05,800
the bit it's gone. Yeah, the riff is still super

924
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,360
feedback and distorted and like squeaking the whole time, but

925
00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:15,159
that melody is so poppy and that's just, Oh, that's

926
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,760
going to be in my head forever. That's kind of

927
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,039
exactly what I want, and it's kind of exactly what

928
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:24,599
you want what could potentially be a lead single from

929
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:25,840
an album to be.

930
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think certainly from this we can imagine that

931
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,559
Scowl will have another album, probably not another EP, I

932
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:34,639
would say another album at this day. They when I

933
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:36,599
saw them on this year, they said they were heading

934
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:37,679
to the studio to do an album.

935
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that shows I.

936
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: Think we can probably expect that, let's say early twenty

937
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:45,239
twenty five, which I think would make this one of

938
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,079
the you know, first kind of heavily anticipated, you know,

939
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:52,559
buzzy albums heading into you know, next year, So we

940
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:56,239
have that to look forward to. Bloodstock twenty twenty five

941
00:43:56,639 --> 00:44:01,519
have already sold out their allocation of full weekend camping tickets,

942
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:04,039
which is the earliest I believe I'm right in saying

943
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:05,960
that has happened in the festival's history. And this is

944
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:09,000
just an interesting kind of uh, you know, we have

945
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:10,840
said when we're talking about the line of everything, they've

946
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,360
clearly pulled out the stops and they have gone big

947
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:16,639
with the headliners and everything for next year, and they

948
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:18,440
are aiming to make it even though it's not like

949
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,199
one of their big anniversary years or anything, but they've

950
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,159
they've just decided twenty.

951
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: Five is going to be handed something where they can

952
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,599
put a big package.

953
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is going to be a big buck fucking

954
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,960
year for Bloodstock. And the fact that in you know,

955
00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:33,400
early October, they have sold out the weekend tickets for

956
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,199
a festival happening in August of next year, I guess

957
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,480
just is can to amount you know, proof that that

958
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:41,559
is very much true.

959
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 2: You don't see that for pretty much any festival that

960
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,880
is in Glastonbury now, Like no, like festivals used you know,

961
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,239
like Read of Us, we used to sell out within

962
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,800
a couple of days and it got one where like

963
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:53,360
if First of were going to sell out, it was

964
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,519
close to the time. Apart from Glastonbury, I don't know,

965
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:58,079
obviously the scale is different, but Bloodstock and it's so

966
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,519
size being able to sell out this early, it's insane,

967
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,239
like it generally has unheard of.

968
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've clearly, because you know, as I said before,

969
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,360
I don't necessarily think that it's a automatically better lineup

970
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:11,840
than it is usually. I think when you look at

971
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,320
the actual strength of the headliners and also the undercard,

972
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,199
it's as good as I would normally expect a Bloodstock

973
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,440
to be. But clearly, having those three you know, very

974
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,760
popular bands together, they have just been able to kind

975
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,719
of manufacture this sense of like you've got to get

976
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,440
your tickets now, and everyone has like rushed to to

977
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:33,599
get to do it, and they have been able to

978
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:37,280
again kind of just insist upon themselves that this year

979
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,960
is like a big event. So good for them, well done,

980
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:41,000
mission accomplished.

981
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:43,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that because like it is the

982
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:45,639
package of the headlines, and that is the difficult because again,

983
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,360
all of those bands have headlined Bloodstock then like the

984
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:51,719
last one that would have been like twenty five.

985
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, Machine obviously haven't done headlined it in a long

986
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:56,400
time because they stopped playing festivals, but they did play

987
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,920
it a few year ago in a secret set, so

988
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,119
they've all been there, so.

989
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:02,199
Speaker 2: Like and so that then like you know, real rare pools,

990
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,280
it's something worse. So like I was saying, like you

991
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,880
replace any one of them with a Nightwish for a Sabtom,

992
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,639
you know, another like well established Bloodstock headliner that would

993
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:13,360
be a Dwarf. I still don't think it would sell

994
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,559
out because it's just you're not you know, it's not

995
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,760
Machine Hankered Jeer and Trivium all together headlining festival. It's

996
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,360
it's that package is meant its appeal to people who

997
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,599
wouldn't go to Bloodstock otherwise because they don't want to

998
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:27,639
see a power metal band. So it's kind of like

999
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:29,639
if you can put together something they're just on paper

1000
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,360
looks more exciting to like the people who might not

1001
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,440
garve wise, the proof is there that it will put

1002
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:36,719
them in.

1003
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a weird kind of way, that's almost like,

1004
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,039
you know, we've spoken about kind of Bloodstock versus Download

1005
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:45,199
in terms of like crowd and like attracting one side

1006
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,920
and the other, and like all three of those bands

1007
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,199
are like pure Bloodstock bands. So in a weird way,

1008
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:50,960
they've managed to maybe you know, grab some of that

1009
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,760
download audience, but without actually changing the type of bands

1010
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,960
that they have headlining it as opposed to you know,

1011
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,880
when they've maybe but some other bands who are slightly

1012
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,559
more out of uh, you know, the zone of what

1013
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:03,559
Bloodstock normally is interesting, and I guess again it clearly

1014
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:06,079
shows that the headliners of what's made it happen here

1015
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:09,000
because like the undercard is nowhere near complete yet. I

1016
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:11,280
wouldn't like there's good stuff on the undercard, but it's

1017
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,159
not the most crazy undercard you've ever seen. I don't

1018
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:15,880
think Lord of the Lost were selling all those tickets

1019
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,280
a coil. I need to get my ticket immediately, exactly.

1020
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,719
So it's clearly, you know, people have seen those big

1021
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,199
names at the top of the poster and gone, oh

1022
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,480
my god. So yeah, clearly you know, a big year.

1023
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,800
I'm sorry if you didn't manage to grab your weekend

1024
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,880
ticket in time. I'm sure that you know, obviously there's

1025
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,440
will be day tickets and stuff like that, and you

1026
00:47:31,519 --> 00:47:33,960
know some of you will find your way of getting there,

1027
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,559
I'm sure. But yeah, pretty insane news coming out of

1028
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:39,360
the Bloodstock camp this early on. Just I thought it's

1029
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,360
worth noting that, as we sometimes do, No Effects have

1030
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:45,679
now played their final show allegedly, and of course when

1031
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,559
it comes to them, but I think you can probably

1032
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:51,280
say that's going to happen. No Effects have completed their

1033
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,760
farewell Talk with a show in Los Angeles. They played

1034
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,079
a thirty two song set list featured various guests coming

1035
00:47:58,119 --> 00:47:59,599
out with them to you know, play songs with them.

1036
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:02,880
Tim arm Strong, Brett Gurrowitz, Chris Shiffler, all sort of stuff.

1037
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,679
There's but you know, just no effects officially now not

1038
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,639
an active band who exists. So if you are a

1039
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:09,960
big fan of that band, you know, obviously a tip

1040
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,840
of a hat there and a couple of you know,

1041
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,880
touring announcements coming over here. We have Covell Attack announcing

1042
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,639
a UK and European tour with the supports are like

1043
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,679
slightly different basically depending on where on the continent you are.

1044
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,920
It's Ern and Mantar. We hear in the UK are

1045
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,760
getting Ern. So if you want to see a pretty

1046
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,320
amazing band, you know in Covell Attack with one of

1047
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,559
the kind of more popular current newer you know, UK

1048
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,119
metal bands with Ern. That is a tour that you

1049
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:41,920
can catch when it comes around in February, and we

1050
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:46,880
also have just before that in January, a ten year

1051
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,119
anniversary tour. From the excerpts for There There is Only

1052
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,679
You album where they are playing venues that are bafflingly

1053
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,000
small for they're playing Rebellion in Manchester. I feel like

1054
00:48:58,039 --> 00:48:59,760
that's a venue that I should never see a band

1055
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,039
with a singer playing like grunters and growlers only you know,

1056
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:09,360
only shriekers. But the excerpts are playing there is only you. Mark.

1057
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,679
You are going to be there fucking ten hours before doors,

1058
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:14,920
aren't you. You're going to be organizing the Q like

1059
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,599
one of those people getting it.

1060
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:18,159
Speaker 2: Make sure eyone gets their Q wrist bands.

1061
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,159
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I'll be taking raffle numbers. I'll be handing

1062
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:27,800
nervous bands. I mean the deliberately doing smaller shows. So

1063
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,280
I'm hoping I get in because if I don't, I'm

1064
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,280
going to be so grumpy.

1065
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: You do have two dates in Glasgow, so you have

1066
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,920
slightly bit of chances of.

1067
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: And fuck it, I'll try Newcastle if I have to.

1068
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:41,039
Speaker 2: I'm going to go.

1069
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, good way to kind of win some you know

1070
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:49,119
good will back the excerpts. Yeah, doing that record right.

1071
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,920
Let's move on to questions for this edition of Hypoblast,

1072
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,760
which come as usual from the That's Not focus group

1073
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,480
on Facebook. Had fair number of good questions, so thank

1074
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,880
you everybody who ask them. If we don't get to

1075
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,840
one there's a very good chance that it will return

1076
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,440
in you know, a future episode in a couple weeks

1077
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:10,840
or something. But today we have Joel Anthony asks, I've

1078
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,519
seen the same metalheads complain about nostalgic bookings at festivals

1079
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:17,280
as I have rave about album in full sets. Is

1080
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,039
there some double standards? I asked this due to myself

1081
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:24,639
looking sorry, complaining about last year's Slam Dunk bookings but

1082
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,360
then excited for Damnation album in full sets. So I

1083
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,960
guess open this up, you know, is there a kind

1084
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,039
of double standard? What is Why is one of these

1085
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:35,280
things exciting and one of them isn't? What do we reckon?

1086
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,280
Is there a double standard?

1087
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: I mean, we all have our own double standard, Like, well,

1088
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,480
we're all guilty of it. Everyone is sure, and it's

1089
00:50:41,519 --> 00:50:43,400
kind of you just you've got to acknowledge where your

1090
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:46,079
sort of like bar for that is. I mean again,

1091
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:48,239
there are things where I go like who wants to

1092
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,639
say it's it's what are you nostalgic for? You know,

1093
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,880
like if it's the if it's nostalgia that hits for you,

1094
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,800
of course you're going to be excited about it. If

1095
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,320
it's the nostalgia, like I said, like I'm going to

1096
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,639
be excited about you know, fucking Young Guns and Mallory

1097
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,519
Knox and Blackout coming back, and you're not paring because

1098
00:51:03,519 --> 00:51:05,519
you don't care for that stuff at all. And that

1099
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:08,559
was you know with me in the same way, I'm

1100
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:11,280
not gonna care for some of those like older Definite

1101
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,880
bands that you might see coming around and go like, oh,

1102
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,920
that's a really exciting booking. And I'm like old Definite bands.

1103
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,599
Some of them are really good obviously, but just we

1104
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,679
all have our kind of like thing we're gonna pick

1105
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,519
and choose to get excited for. I do. I do

1106
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,719
get like the arm in full sets is always one.

1107
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,320
I'm like, are you actually excited to see that album

1108
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,039
in full? It's always the question I asked when people

1109
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:33,360
start raving about that because some of those albums, am like,

1110
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,320
you don't actually want to see the album in full?

1111
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,760
They're they're tricking you there. But yeah, we're all a

1112
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,440
little bit here hypocritical and guilty of it. But you know,

1113
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:44,280
just do what you enjoy it makes you happy.

1114
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is gonna come across as very rich as

1115
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:49,440
a man who just said he will fight the entirety

1116
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,320
of Newcastle to see the excerpts.

1117
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: But but you want to see that album in full

1118
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:55,079
album is like a ten.

1119
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very special album to be I do

1120
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,079
feel like I'm so sick album in full shows it

1121
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:04,159
needs to be one of the like thirty albums are

1122
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,440
like the most in order for me to really care

1123
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,239
and not roll my eyes at it. I feel like

1124
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,880
if I were to play Devil's Advocate, the sort of

1125
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:18,239
the Damnation versus slam Dunk comparison, the band's playing Damnation,

1126
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,480
they could play a set of any songs and it'd

1127
00:52:21,519 --> 00:52:25,760
be just as good the once pointing slam Dunk. They're

1128
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,000
playing those albums because maybe that's the only material they

1129
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:29,679
can play.

1130
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:35,559
Speaker 1: Yeah case therefore, like what is a special event booking

1131
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,159
versus a desperation pushed the panic button?

1132
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,679
Speaker 2: I'm that way to look at that is true because

1133
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:44,880
you know, like this is like this is murdering full

1134
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,400
Like again, that's not going to be a special everyone.

1135
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,360
But that album, you know, people like it, that's a

1136
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,280
special album. Never Happy ever After by as it is,

1137
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,159
isn't necessarily a special album, is it? Really? Yeah?

1138
00:52:57,039 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: I will, you know, put forward my two differentially, but

1139
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,400
I certainly I think to some degree you know there

1140
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,159
probably is some double standard going on. I think we

1141
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:07,840
can all accept that. When do you want to get

1142
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,159
nostalgic about things that you really love? Yeah, of course

1143
00:53:11,199 --> 00:53:14,960
you probably do. My two arguments are my first one

1144
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,800
is slightly more flippant, but I also believe it to

1145
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,239
be true when you're getting nostalgic for things that are good,

1146
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:24,039
it is better when you're getting nostalgic for things that

1147
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:24,559
are shit.

1148
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:30,119
Speaker 2: Right, what you're getting the Salded for? Yeah, cool? Fair enough.

1149
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,199
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I'm not gonna put it in those

1150
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,960
kind of you know, pointing fingers at anyone term, but

1151
00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:37,519
you can do that. I do mind, I do think

1152
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:41,440
there is a difference between you know, of an example,

1153
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:44,199
right like when Akakka played Oranzon right last year, right

1154
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,719
like that is a fucking incredible, like one of a

1155
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,639
kind album that do I want to get I'd say nostalgic.

1156
00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:53,159
I wasn't, like, you know, I wasn't there on day

1157
00:53:53,159 --> 00:53:54,679
one for Koranzon. But do I want to go back

1158
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,079
in time and visit that album? Fuck? Yeah, I do.

1159
00:53:58,639 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

1160
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:03,679
Speaker 1: It's when you see the Wea, the Kings and like

1161
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,559
Hey Monday and all of that being like put like

1162
00:54:08,039 --> 00:54:10,840
it's dredging up parts of the past that I think

1163
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,519
for the health of the music scene our best kind

1164
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:15,320
of left in the past. That's why we're putting it.

1165
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,320
The other way is again it's about the kind of

1166
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:23,280
overall approach of let's say, a festival. And again this

1167
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,719
is where you draw the differ between again, I don't

1168
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:25,840
I don't do to a the comf slam dunk all

1169
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,440
the time. It's only because it's being presented here in

1170
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:30,880
the question. But you know, are complained about something like

1171
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,760
slam Dunk. Are that when you look at like a

1172
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,639
main stage, it's full of your fucking boys like girls

1173
00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:37,840
and we the Kings and all of that, you know,

1174
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,519
direk And if you want to find anything that's kind

1175
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:44,000
of particularly cutting edge of contemporary, you've got to go digging,

1176
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,519
whereas Damnation and you know, I understand this sounds because

1177
00:54:48,639 --> 00:54:50,800
they're very incomparable festivals, and it sounds a bit like

1178
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,719
we're having kind of heavy bias versus like kind of

1179
00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:55,480
more poppy mainstream backs or whatever. But just what I

1180
00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:59,599
mean is a festival that has your kind of again

1181
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:03,199
special event nostalgia type bookings, but mixed in with something

1182
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,079
that's also very very reflective of what is contemporary that

1183
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,440
will not draw the same eyre as something that is

1184
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:13,639
actively burying anything that is like, you know, contemporary that

1185
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:17,039
you want to see platformed in favor of nostalgia for

1186
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,360
shitty things. So when we look at like, again, this

1187
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,119
is Damnation bill, for example, Yeah, bleeding through doing this

1188
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:24,320
is others a murder that is absolutely a nostalgia booking.

1189
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,960
That's what it's there in Cradle, Yeah, they're doing an

1190
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,960
old school thing. But let's look at else in the

1191
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,599
bill they've got on that main stage, they have Gate Creeper, right,

1192
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,400
like one of the of the moment death metal bands.

1193
00:55:36,639 --> 00:55:39,519
All over that bill. They have you know, two hundred

1194
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:44,719
stab wounds enforced into armor, Gillian Carter, all sorts of stuff,

1195
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,519
even on the album full Front right employed to Server

1196
00:55:47,639 --> 00:55:49,480
doing an album in full set, and it's their most

1197
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:52,760
recent album. And I feel like Damnation is a place

1198
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,719
where you're kind of more like to see things like that,

1199
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,199
Like bands will turn up and have like event bookings,

1200
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,840
but to showcase what they are actually curly doing, whereas

1201
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,239
you would never get that at one of these more

1202
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,840
you know, when we were young nostalgia minded festivals again,

1203
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,519
it's look at dan Nation last year when again the

1204
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:12,199
nostalgia things, I guess lectpros were doing coal, you know,

1205
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,880
Enslaved did a couple of older albums that kind of thing.

1206
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:16,679
But also across that bill they had like in in

1207
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:22,000
prominent slots they had you know, like Kemis Bosk, Harriot's Ashenspire,

1208
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:24,960
High Command, Undeath were all there. So it's about what

1209
00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:27,960
you kind of If your festival is one hundred percent

1210
00:56:28,199 --> 00:56:31,719
all nostalgia, then yeah, I think you have a problem.

1211
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,679
But you know, you take anything in moderation, you know,

1212
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,760
and can we get excited about revisiting some really cool

1213
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,599
album and fall type sets while also at the exact

1214
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:43,719
same time on the same day championing some of the

1215
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,400
best things that are happening now. I would say that's

1216
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,199
what heavy metaler is all about, you know. It's the

1217
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,480
genre is the best I think at kind of embracing

1218
00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:56,440
and remembering its past while also hopefully, you know, championing

1219
00:56:56,519 --> 00:56:58,760
what is kind of currently happening. And that for me,

1220
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,280
is where I would say that's not a double standard.

1221
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,840
That's a clear distinction between one kind of mindset versus

1222
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:05,280
another one.

1223
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love you know, just to be super basic

1224
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,599
about it. There is a difference between Oh, Converge or

1225
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,400
Credible Filter are gonna be playing songs that probably never

1226
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,880
played in ages versus or Milory Knocks are playing all

1227
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,280
the exact same songs that would have played anyway, except

1228
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,440
in the different order because that's how the album was.

1229
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: That's another very good point as well. Yes, so Emmy

1230
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,519
Lananio says, Hi, what song is so out of character

1231
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:33,920
for the band that wrote it that it makes you

1232
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,480
think this belongs in this other album, but this other artist.

1233
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,159
Interesting question. This is the one of the bunch this week.

1234
00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:41,760
I really kind of had to rack my brains over

1235
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,599
the most because I didn't have like an initial gut response.

1236
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,719
I came up with a few I'll throw it to

1237
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,719
you guys first to see if you had anything.

1238
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:51,719
Speaker 2: I drew a blank on this, and then there's gonna

1239
00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:53,360
be ones out of that will jump to me. But

1240
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,519
I was I was like, there's gotta be somewhere. It's like,

1241
00:57:55,559 --> 00:57:57,880
that's a really bizarre choice that you've thrown in there.

1242
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,320
But a lot of the bands that I like that do,

1243
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,880
I feel a lot of bats like they either are

1244
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,000
really eclectic or they're never eclectic guitar, they do the

1245
00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:07,639
one thing, and if they don't, it's you know, a

1246
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,719
kind of one of song that isn't attached to an album.

1247
00:58:10,119 --> 00:58:11,400
So I was kind of like strong to think of

1248
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,559
one way you kind of like this shouldn't be on

1249
00:58:13,719 --> 00:58:14,440
this album or whatever.

1250
00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 3: So yeahdra Black, Yeah, I know there are ones out

1251
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,960
there I just couldn't, you know. I know there definitely

1252
00:58:22,039 --> 00:58:24,320
are examples in the past where I've been like, why

1253
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,679
the fuck does this song rand with soun like death

1254
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,920
heaven or whatever? The closest I can go is that

1255
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:32,159
for your strong song that sounds like astronoid?

1256
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? But again I like that song that I think, Yeah,

1257
00:58:35,079 --> 00:58:36,800
it is a It's it's a strange question in terms

1258
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,119
of I think most of the really like if we

1259
00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:41,039
review an album and there'd be some really fucking in

1260
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:42,840
congress track, like what the fuck is this doing here?

1261
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,440
I think most of the time we probably forget those

1262
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,239
because it's just sort of slightly weird more than it

1263
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,639
is super like memorable, you know, again, really trying to

1264
00:58:49,679 --> 00:58:52,639
rack my brains on them. I was like, obviously, any

1265
00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:56,480
Motley Crue ballad apart from Home Sweet Home, which I like,

1266
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,840
but like without you on Doctor Field Good yehenuinely feels

1267
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,400
like it should not be written by the members of

1268
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,360
Motney Crue, you know, and it does not belong on

1269
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,000
that album because it's so at odds with the very

1270
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:10,199
message of what they'd only do that's like a poison

1271
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,159
song or something that's not that's not a Motley Crue song.

1272
00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:17,159
The first one that came to mind weirdly terms of like,

1273
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,920
you know, something that's kind of weird that it sounds

1274
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,800
like that is the Volbeat album from I think the

1275
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,239
twenty nineteen one yeah, which I can't remember that album,

1276
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:27,119
but there's a song it's called Sorry Sacker Bones, which

1277
00:59:27,199 --> 00:59:29,280
just suddenly sounds like Grave Pleasures. I was like, what's this,

1278
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,039
what's this beast milk song? And I like that it's

1279
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:34,599
cool and like, you know, kind of weird things like

1280
00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:37,280
that where there are some cool, like you know, stuff

1281
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:38,840
that I like where I go, this reminds me of something.

1282
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,079
It's kind of a wild card that they've done something

1283
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,679
like this. I was like, everything by nine Inch Nails

1284
00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:49,079
and Hesitation Marks is it's like quite out of character,

1285
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:52,199
almost like incredible you know, joy division new ordery type

1286
00:59:52,199 --> 00:59:53,960
pop song that's just in the midst of album and

1287
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:57,280
it's really really great. The one that I decided, I

1288
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,360
was like, this is my answer, I think is old school.

1289
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:06,519
Black Sabbath bizarrely have a few of those, and you know,

1290
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:12,119
Changes almost This is obviously my age, but Changes almost

1291
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:14,440
registers to me, first of all, as a song that

1292
01:00:14,519 --> 01:00:16,599
should have been written by Ozzie and Kelly Osborne in

1293
01:00:16,639 --> 01:00:17,559
the early two thousands.

1294
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 2: Changes. Yeah, because that was the one. I was like,

1295
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,039
listen to me, that was what was you know, the

1296
01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:25,920
version that was out there.

1297
01:00:26,159 --> 01:00:28,119
Speaker 1: It's so odds with most of Volume four, but the

1298
01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:31,639
one again, this is a more obscure answer but bizarrely

1299
01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:34,920
came to mind for me earlier, is I don't mind

1300
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:37,760
like the last two classic I say classically, you know,

1301
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,239
you know, the last two albums before Ozzie left the band,

1302
01:00:40,679 --> 01:00:44,000
Sabbath Album so Technical Extency and Never Say Die. They

1303
01:00:44,039 --> 01:00:47,360
are not as good as the prior six, but there's

1304
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,480
also you know, some good material on them. For sure.

1305
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,000
I'm a huge fan of the title track I'll Never

1306
01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:54,599
Say Die. That's an absolute tune. But they also have

1307
01:00:54,679 --> 01:00:56,400
some weird stuff on them where they were kind of

1308
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,559
trying different things and being like, what kind of band

1309
01:00:58,639 --> 01:01:01,199
are We. And there's a song on Technical Ecstasy called

1310
01:01:01,239 --> 01:01:04,519
It's All Right, which is basically the kind of Beatles

1311
01:01:04,599 --> 01:01:07,719
type piano ballad where Bill Ward sings the song. And

1312
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,480
I remember hearing that for the first time, like as

1313
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:13,039
you know, as a teenager when I was discovering Sabbath

1314
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,119
and being like, okay, this is this is not what

1315
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,599
I like have been drawn to Sabbath for. I don't

1316
01:01:19,639 --> 01:01:22,280
know what this song is meant to be why it's

1317
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,119
here again. Maybe not an awful song, but just in

1318
01:01:26,199 --> 01:01:28,320
terms of a song where I go, this doesn't feel

1319
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,960
like it belongs on a Black Sabbath album. It feels

1320
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,480
like some weird post Beatles e type band that one

1321
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:35,400
springs to mind.

1322
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 3: Ossie has fucking tons of them. Yeah, he'll just slap

1323
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,400
a John Lennon's song on his albums.

1324
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: It's like twelve of them he does.

1325
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,119
Speaker 1: I love Ossie, but he's.

1326
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 3: You know, he's not good at it.

1327
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:53,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, a song I really like, but it's it feels

1328
01:01:53,119 --> 01:01:55,079
weird to like it because it doesn't feel like the

1329
01:01:55,159 --> 01:01:58,559
band in question. Stain of Mind by Slayer, which is

1330
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:00,519
one of the I think was one of probably one

1331
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:02,239
of the singles from Diabolis in Musica. It's one of

1332
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,960
like the two or three songs on that record that

1333
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,000
I think stands out. But like, I really like Stain

1334
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:09,239
of Mind as a tune, but I also feel like

1335
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:14,119
it should just be a cold chainer song. The way

1336
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,920
Tom is like quasi rapping on it and the riff

1337
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,199
in the verses. There are some brilliant, you know, slayery

1338
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,599
moments in it, but it's a song where I go, like,

1339
01:02:23,679 --> 01:02:26,000
I like this song, but it doesn't actually feel like

1340
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:28,000
it should be a song by the bands who have

1341
01:02:29,159 --> 01:02:31,480
made it. So I hope those are you know, appropriate

1342
01:02:31,519 --> 01:02:32,880
answers for the question.

1343
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,719
Speaker 3: Similar to that, but a full album. I fucking love

1344
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:40,199
Digimortal by fear Factory, all right, Yeah, it's so unfear Factory.

1345
01:02:40,679 --> 01:02:42,960
Like you say, it might as well just be cul

1346
01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:44,880
Chamber or something, but I love it.

1347
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,039
Speaker 1: It's so dumb. Yeah, I can see that being a

1348
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:51,639
fairly decent answer there. Barry Graves asks which band or

1349
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,239
artist would you actually like to do a Winter Sun

1350
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,480
and devote far too many years to making an overblown

1351
01:02:57,559 --> 01:03:00,159
statement or legacy album. My personal favorite example as a

1352
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:02,800
maginos pype of oystercle love that album. Yeah, that's a

1353
01:03:03,039 --> 01:03:05,000
kind of crazy album that's kind of got this whole.

1354
01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:07,760
It's the album almost like basically killed the band for

1355
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,039
a while because they took years to make it, and

1356
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:12,039
it's basically like one member kind of directing it all.

1357
01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:15,639
And it's like this mad, like harsh, heavy netle album

1358
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,480
that has like a whole concept about like Frankenstein and

1359
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,119
edgl and Bow. It's kind of I would I wouldn't

1360
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:22,719
say it's one of the best Lawyer's Got albums on

1361
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,519
par with like, you know, the classic eight you know,

1362
01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:27,079
early eighteen seventies stuff, but you know, I do also,

1363
01:03:27,199 --> 01:03:30,519
you know, enjoy elements of that album for sure. Now

1364
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:34,559
this is a I think, very good question because what

1365
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:39,440
is essentially being asked here is I'm assuming that we

1366
01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:41,599
can say that the end point of this thing will

1367
01:03:41,679 --> 01:03:44,960
be good, right, and will be worth it. That's what

1368
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:46,360
you've got in Winter Sun's case. You know, we can't

1369
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,960
necessarily say for sure that we'll be listening to Time too,

1370
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,639
for you know, a million years to come. But like

1371
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,920
right now, I feel like I'm worth I'm happy in

1372
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,599
saying that, Like, you know the result of that process

1373
01:03:57,039 --> 01:04:00,760
was in the end positive or I guess it's a

1374
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,400
what band do you think would produce something good out

1375
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,599
of that? Rather than going completely insane and producing something like,

1376
01:04:08,639 --> 01:04:11,320
you know, utterly nonsense. But what we're asking here is essentially,

1377
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,960
what band would you like to do something that in

1378
01:04:17,079 --> 01:04:20,920
the end will be so good that it is worth

1379
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:26,000
the years of frustration that it would take to get there.

1380
01:04:26,719 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: Listen, I don't I don't think there's any band I

1381
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:29,960
would want to go through this.

1382
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:32,239
Speaker 1: Do none of your punk or hardcore bands?

1383
01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: He's like, I was like, you know what you mean?

1384
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,840
At six? Can do it happen? Like release an album

1385
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,519
and then tears there, do the second part to it,

1386
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:44,000
and it can be this like sprawling genius work where

1387
01:04:44,239 --> 01:04:48,039
Josh Francheski builds himself a swimming pool and goes mental.

1388
01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:50,199
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a science experiment in terms of

1389
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:51,920
almost like you know, like watching a hamster in a

1390
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,599
cage or something, is like what happens if you give

1391
01:04:53,639 --> 01:04:55,159
Josh Franceski infinite money?

1392
01:04:56,639 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: What would he give those fifty pound notes? You can

1393
01:04:58,519 --> 01:04:59,559
go buy his own album with.

1394
01:05:00,239 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 3: Give them infinite fifty pound notes?

1395
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:07,159
Speaker 2: Well, I genuinely don't think I want any of my

1396
01:05:07,239 --> 01:05:08,599
bands to go through this process.

1397
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: You don't want to go through it.

1398
01:05:10,599 --> 01:05:11,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, because in a way, like.

1399
01:05:13,199 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: You are sacrificing for this year's worth of regular albums

1400
01:05:18,119 --> 01:05:20,440
from a band to do this. So in a way,

1401
01:05:21,559 --> 01:05:23,519
I don't want it to be like one of my

1402
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,079
like I don't know, like album of the year year in,

1403
01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:29,840
year out type bands who I require albums from every

1404
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,559
few years in order to live, you know. I want

1405
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:33,280
it to be someone, you know, like Winter Sun, who

1406
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,079
I love, but I am able to kind of like

1407
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:37,760
tuck away in a back pocket for periods of time

1408
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,360
and like let do their own thing and eventually re

1409
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,320
emerge when they're when they're ready. Mark, do you have

1410
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,639
any thoughts on if you have to pick a band

1411
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,960
to go away for an extended period of time go

1412
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:50,920
fucking mental in the hope that they will eventually return

1413
01:05:51,079 --> 01:05:52,920
with something that really shows that.

1414
01:05:53,519 --> 01:05:54,719
Speaker 3: Oh, I have the answer.

1415
01:05:55,599 --> 01:06:01,679
Speaker 1: What's your answer on an that is now that it's

1416
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,480
I'm thinking about it. One of the problems of Weezer

1417
01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:07,400
has been regular out.

1418
01:06:07,519 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 2: Can't get rid of them? You know what? Yeah, no,

1419
01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:10,960
this is it.

1420
01:06:11,079 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: It's like, this is the answer.

1421
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, Weezer release schedules are frustrating anyway. So if it's

1422
01:06:17,079 --> 01:06:19,800
frustrating in the different way I can draw up with

1423
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,239
that and we get you know, I don't know if

1424
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,239
it would be good. You know, if we're under the

1425
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,119
assumption it will be good, then farking now Weezer all day.

1426
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:32,480
Just give Rivers as much money and as much time

1427
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,880
as possible and see what the fucky cooks up.

1428
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't know what that would even be because

1429
01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:41,119
like I think about you know, okay Human where they

1430
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:44,199
already did a sort of like orchestrally type record that

1431
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,400
was really good in you know, obviously much shorter amount

1432
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,440
of time that they had to make. That would it

1433
01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:51,960
be some kind of like gratitude pop opus Like I

1434
01:06:52,039 --> 01:06:56,760
don't know, but yeah, considering the problem with Weezer is

1435
01:06:58,239 --> 01:07:01,719
every every other album is good, but obviously every other

1436
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,920
album is you know, kind of a nightmare. That's a

1437
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:07,920
if you they were forced to go away for like

1438
01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:11,360
twelve years and then come back with something, what would

1439
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,679
that be? That is a very fascinating thought experiment.

1440
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,239
Speaker 3: You know how the White album, every song on that

1441
01:07:19,559 --> 01:07:21,679
has tons of just like shit in the background, like

1442
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,920
guys going whoo and like in the back. It'd be

1443
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:28,480
like that, It just be ten simple little pop songs

1444
01:07:28,639 --> 01:07:31,480
except tons of shit in the background, just going.

1445
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,599
Speaker 1: To imagine the state of his spreadsheets in the process

1446
01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:37,760
of making that thing. Jesus Christ. Yeah, that is I

1447
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,760
think that's the most interesting answer that we come up with.

1448
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,559
At least I was thinking, I hope that's what Cobalt

1449
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:45,760
are currently doing. From them in a while, I hope

1450
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,639
that's what they're doing. The answer that I came up

1451
01:07:48,679 --> 01:07:50,760
with is more I have no idea what the fuck

1452
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,360
it would turn up with. But imagine if in Peri

1453
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,800
or Triumphant lock themselves away for ten years because they again.

1454
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: I'd be happy with them to just go away for

1455
01:07:59,559 --> 01:07:59,960
ten years.

1456
01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: It would but like you know, every like you know,

1457
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,880
a couple of years they've come out with something and

1458
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,719
it's been pretty fucking crazy. I'm just like, imagine if

1459
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,840
we give them access to like any fucking.

1460
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,679
Speaker 2: Rat chorus, ten years the right course, ten.

1461
01:08:14,639 --> 01:08:17,199
Speaker 1: Years cracking the art of melody. Yeah, but like I imagine,

1462
01:08:17,239 --> 01:08:19,399
if you know, we give him access to whatever New

1463
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,000
York jazz orchestra or whatever they want and see what

1464
01:08:22,039 --> 01:08:24,800
they turn up with, that I'd be interested. I don't

1465
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,159
knowless if I would like want them to do that

1466
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:29,560
ahead of you know what they are currently doing. But

1467
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,399
that's my interesting answer at least. But Weezer is a

1468
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:37,920
fascinating ultimate path of what could have happened. And Matt

1469
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,079
Luke asks, if you could bring back one inactive band,

1470
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,520
including any with deceased members, for a five song gig,

1471
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:49,920
who would you choose. I'm going to assume that part

1472
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,720
of this question was actually also coming up with the

1473
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,600
five songs that would be in the gig, because that

1474
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,079
feels like the interesting fun part of this. I my

1475
01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:59,680
if again, if we're reviving anyone and bands who, like

1476
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,159
you know, cannot currently exist because a member is gone,

1477
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,439
I would like to see typo negative. That's always my

1478
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,319
go to answer, and my five songs again, you know,

1479
01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:10,560
I never saw type of negative, So I like the

1480
01:09:11,039 --> 01:09:14,159
ubiquitous hits that you'd imagine you obviously we did see them,

1481
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,159
saw I never seen any of them. So, like my

1482
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,760
five songs, it's hard to beat something like love You

1483
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,279
to Death, Christian Woman, I Don't Want to Be Me

1484
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,680
Black number one, wolf Moon that is, and that most

1485
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,199
of those are pretty long songs as well, which is

1486
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,159
nice bonus. I'm having the full you know, non radio

1487
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:33,960
edit thirteen minutes of Black number one, and again that

1488
01:09:34,079 --> 01:09:37,039
doesn't you know I could put in my Girlfriend's Girlfriend

1489
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,279
or hallo is Eva is one of my favorites. Everything

1490
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:42,760
Dies again, the entirety of like unsexfully coping with the

1491
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:47,479
natural beauty of infidelity, whatever. But those are my five

1492
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:48,840
songs I would pick. I would also I know you

1493
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,600
said one band, but I'm going to continue on. I

1494
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,560
would also like to see the Devil's Blood, and my

1495
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,640
five song set list I think would be on the

1496
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,159
Wings of Gloria, I'll Be Your Ghost Queen, and my

1497
01:09:58,199 --> 01:10:00,880
Burning Heart, the Yonder Beckons and the Badness of Serpents.

1498
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,359
And if you don't know that band, just go and

1499
01:10:02,399 --> 01:10:04,439
listen to those five songs and you.

1500
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:05,079
Speaker 2: Will be a fan.

1501
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:06,079
Speaker 1: What do we reckon?

1502
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I've gone completely You've got, you know, really

1503
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,600
flesh out in the emotional So I'm like gloss play

1504
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,279
every p and pole be the best ten minutes of

1505
01:10:15,359 --> 01:10:19,880
my life. Wouldn't even last the entirety of No No No,

1506
01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:21,960
I says, probably about eight minutes. When you know, like

1507
01:10:22,039 --> 01:10:25,199
if they do the twenty fifteen demo like that for

1508
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:26,960
so I can do that whole opening shot of bit

1509
01:10:27,119 --> 01:10:29,720
like just that's all I need that ten minutes and

1510
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:30,840
I'd be I'd be happy.

1511
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I have three answers as well, because I'm cheeky.

1512
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,479
I I love the Ramones so much, so there were

1513
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,199
the immediate like well, I'm going to say the Ramons,

1514
01:10:41,399 --> 01:10:44,239
but that said would take up eight minutes.

1515
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: And even though when.

1516
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 1: Punk bands for this is hard compared to you know,

1517
01:10:49,319 --> 01:10:50,920
slightly more substantial.

1518
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,560
Speaker 2: Why I just embrace the short like yeah, like live

1519
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,800
in that ten minute moment, that's what you need, like yeah,

1520
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:56,720
blitz quigbop.

1521
01:10:57,039 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 3: Oh. I love her so do you want to dance?

1522
01:10:59,079 --> 01:11:03,000
She's sent sation. She was a punk rocker. That's like

1523
01:11:03,159 --> 01:11:05,720
the best seven minutes of my life. They played their

1524
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,000
songs twice as fast anyway, so it'd probably five minutes.

1525
01:11:09,119 --> 01:11:13,319
Like I would love that so much. I would love

1526
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,920
Twisted Sister to come back, because again they're one of

1527
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,319
my favorite bands. I never got to see them. My

1528
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,199
Twisted Sister set list, Stay Hungry, the Kids are back,

1529
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,239
bad Boys, rock and roll from the pre debut days,

1530
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:33,760
just interesting little and I love that song Hot Hot

1531
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,159
Love is one of the best songs ever.

1532
01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:36,319
Speaker 1: You could off.

1533
01:11:37,079 --> 01:11:39,279
Speaker 3: Half of you listening probably don't even know what that

1534
01:11:39,359 --> 01:11:43,279
song is and you should change that. It is so good.

1535
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,079
We're not going to take it then because obviously, but

1536
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,520
you know, i'd have Hot Love twice, and you know what,

1537
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,279
I would love to be in a room for a

1538
01:11:55,359 --> 01:11:58,520
lot of Rush fans and to rush and.

1539
01:12:00,079 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: A rabbit hole of thinking of some other ones and

1540
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,800
Rush for one of the bands. I was also thinking about, Yeah.

1541
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,319
Speaker 2: As well, this fung to me. Beastie Boys, like that'd

1542
01:12:07,359 --> 01:12:10,039
be such you know, sabotage by just go for those

1543
01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:14,199
sabotage Intergalactic. No, it's on Brooklyn and then I don't

1544
01:12:14,199 --> 01:12:18,159
know like any of the people, but like five songs

1545
01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:20,800
a Beastie Boys, just like one last massive party, come.

1546
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: On, Yeah, what's your what's your Rush selection?

1547
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 2: Well, I love the.

1548
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 3: Idea of like we all know we're coming to see Rush,

1549
01:12:28,239 --> 01:12:31,520
full of these old nerds and Rush come on and

1550
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:38,560
normally played five songs from Hold Your Fire times times

1551
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:39,560
downs still five times.

1552
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,119
Speaker 1: I'll take that plain.

1553
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 3: And it's like Amy Man's backstage, she's here, she's ready

1554
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,119
to rock her and you want them to play some

1555
01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:49,199
dumb ship like Tom Sawyer. Come on, you don't want

1556
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:50,000
to let Amy down?

1557
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go with the you know, more like if again,

1558
01:12:55,319 --> 01:12:58,680
I never saw Rush and it's they're hard to pin

1559
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,399
down to five songs, you know, like I almost I

1560
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,319
can't do it really, but like I would have them

1561
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,239
for a start, I'm cheating. I'm having them opening with

1562
01:13:04,319 --> 01:13:05,359
twenty one twelve and.

1563
01:13:07,079 --> 01:13:07,520
Speaker 2: One song.

1564
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah it is one song, You're twenty minutes at the

1565
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,239
start there, I'm definitely having the spirit of radio in.

1566
01:13:12,359 --> 01:13:14,960
I feel like again just for the moment of it still,

1567
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,319
i'd have to have them clothes on Tom Sawyer and

1568
01:13:17,359 --> 01:13:19,279
then in the middle somewhere you could pick fucking you know,

1569
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:24,920
like Subdivisions, Limelight. I would want something from Power Windows.

1570
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:29,560
I put in yeah, you know, Xanadu fucking hard. And

1571
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,159
then again, the moment where I like stopped thinking about

1572
01:13:32,199 --> 01:13:33,319
this because I was like, this is going to go

1573
01:13:33,359 --> 01:13:35,199
on forever, was when I started thinking about Thin Lizzy

1574
01:13:35,399 --> 01:13:36,800
and I was like, right, so we're opening with the

1575
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,079
boys are back in town because they are literally back

1576
01:13:39,119 --> 01:13:41,800
in town town. I'm having cold sweat, I'm having the

1577
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,520
Holy War. I'd have them end on Cowboy Song because

1578
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,720
that would like reduce me to a puddle. That last

1579
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,119
slot in the middle, I don't know what like you know,

1580
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:51,720
there's millions of songs like Whiskey in the Jar, fucking

1581
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,640
waiting for an alibi, I Love Angeler, Death, like Chinatown,

1582
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:59,960
Mascat go on forever. But those are a few answers there.

1583
01:14:00,319 --> 01:14:05,000
So next week we are schedule is slightly kind of

1584
01:14:05,039 --> 01:14:08,039
unpredictable at the moment, but next week we are going

1585
01:14:08,119 --> 01:14:10,760
to do an album Club episode, obviously following offrom the

1586
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,840
reviews that we did recently, and it's gonna be a

1587
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,119
very special album Club episode because you know, as some

1588
01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:18,000
of our conversations earlier kind of hinted out, is very

1589
01:14:18,079 --> 01:14:20,279
soon going to be Damnation, first of all. And last

1590
01:14:20,359 --> 01:14:22,159
year we had a really successful time doing a kind

1591
01:14:22,199 --> 01:14:26,039
of like Damnation themed kind of preview episode almost on

1592
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,119
album Club because, as you know, we were discussing, they

1593
01:14:29,159 --> 01:14:30,680
do do a number of kind of album in full

1594
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:35,039
types slots and special sets and stuff like that, and

1595
01:14:35,279 --> 01:14:38,920
it's kind of, you know, interesting to you know, maybe

1596
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,439
if you don't know some of the albums in question,

1597
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,560
you know, give you the spiel on kind of what

1598
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,039
is interesting about them, or just like fully celebrate, you know,

1599
01:14:46,119 --> 01:14:48,640
stuff that we kind of really really know and love.

1600
01:14:49,279 --> 01:14:52,359
So we are going to be doing another one of

1601
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,199
those like last year, because it is kind of you know,

1602
01:14:56,079 --> 01:14:59,039
immediate in terms of its immediate relevance that is going

1603
01:14:59,079 --> 01:15:01,720
to turn up on just the normal podcast feed for

1604
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,880
you here next week. So we are going to have

1605
01:15:05,039 --> 01:15:10,239
album clubs very very soon featuring a handful of records

1606
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,159
that are you know, going to be at least relevant

1607
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:17,439
to this upcoming Damnation festival which is just a few

1608
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,000
weeks away. So that is what we have cooking up

1609
01:15:21,039 --> 01:15:23,880
in the very very immediate future for you. Let us

1610
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,920
close out this hyperlast with releases, and again, it's been

1611
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,039
like a few weeks where we've missed these because of

1612
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,840
when our podcast schedules kind of lined up and stuff

1613
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,000
like that. So we've got like a few weeks worth

1614
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,359
of stuff. It won't be exhaustive in terms of every

1615
01:15:36,399 --> 01:15:38,000
single thing that came out because of that, it's just

1616
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,920
going to be kind of, you know, the main cherry

1617
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,359
picking things from like the last few weeks, including today.

1618
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,640
So going back to kind of a I guess the

1619
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,520
last week of September, just a handful of things that

1620
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,880
weren't already mentioned on like our reviews episode, for example,

1621
01:15:51,039 --> 01:15:53,520
but that you might want to know about. High Parasite

1622
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,640
released their album which is called Forever We Burn, which

1623
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,680
is the almost like kind of like goth rock, much

1624
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,720
shorter form, poppy and of project from Aaron from My

1625
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,279
Dying Bride. We have Weather Systems Ocean Without Ashure, which

1626
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:10,119
is the new project of Dan from Anathema, obviously taking

1627
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,520
its name from a prominent Anathema album. And if you

1628
01:16:15,039 --> 01:16:17,760
you know, were mourningly loss of Anathema a few years

1629
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,640
ago when they announced quite sadly they're gonna be splitting,

1630
01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:23,439
this is it's not like exactly picking up where enough

1631
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,800
Anathema kind of left it down. But if you like

1632
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,760
that kind of involved, interesting, emotionally open prog rock, I suppose,

1633
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,039
then you should definitely, you know, if you like the

1634
01:16:32,079 --> 01:16:34,239
Anathema basically should definitely check out the weather Systems out

1635
01:16:34,279 --> 01:16:36,920
if you didn't know it like existed elsewhere. We also have,

1636
01:16:37,319 --> 01:16:39,840
again on the slightly more kind of you know, alternative end,

1637
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,960
there's Oragami Angel put out record Feeling Not Found, and

1638
01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:44,960
on the extreme end, from a couple weeks ago, a

1639
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,319
couple records on I mentioned. One is from a UK

1640
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,479
band called Adoia, which who are again a quite long

1641
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,479
running band, but this is their first record in many years.

1642
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,720
The record is called Bleed on My Teeth and it

1643
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,239
has one of the single best cover arts of any

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01:16:58,279 --> 01:17:00,600
record this year. I am not talking about the censored

1645
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,720
one that shows up on Spotify. There's also, again on

1646
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,039
that black metal front, a man called Spite, who are

1647
01:17:05,119 --> 01:17:06,800
kind of like I think of like a Hebrew themed

1648
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,159
black metal band, put a record called The Third Temple.

1649
01:17:09,319 --> 01:17:13,640
Moving forward to last week, Blood Incantation released their album

1650
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,079
Absolutely Elsewhere, and you know, spoilers, that is going to

1651
01:17:17,079 --> 01:17:19,600
be lead review when we do our album reviews in

1652
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,279
a couple of weeks time here on the podcast feed,

1653
01:17:22,359 --> 01:17:27,359
because wow, and you should definitely be doing your homework

1654
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,079
on that preparing for that. In the meantime, we also,

1655
01:17:30,119 --> 01:17:32,840
of course had Undeath with More Insane, which people have

1656
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,840
on of course on that review's episode right there alongside it,

1657
01:17:36,319 --> 01:17:40,119
Fever three three three released an album called Darker White,

1658
01:17:40,199 --> 01:17:43,640
which again feels like a real uh. I'm not sure

1659
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,119
how many people took note of that one, but F

1660
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,479
three did release a full length album, which I guess

1661
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,720
is there only their second full length album right strengthened

1662
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,439
Numbers that feels like a very long time ago. Doesn't

1663
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,560
ap in between, but yeah, trash Boats released an album

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01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,520
called Heaven Can Wait the Return of Balance, and that's

1665
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,119
a record we'll also, of course have to talk about

1666
01:18:02,119 --> 01:18:04,279
because that's a fairly big deal with you in spirit.

1667
01:18:04,359 --> 01:18:07,560
Balanced Composure of returned with an album. Drug Church released

1668
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,039
one called Prude Chubby and the Gang released one called

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01:18:11,199 --> 01:18:12,560
and then there was if you want to go more

1670
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,239
in that kind of like punk area, God Speed You,

1671
01:18:15,279 --> 01:18:18,199
Black Emperor. The post rock you Know Legends released their

1672
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,159
no title as of album going into black Metal. Thirteen

1673
01:18:22,199 --> 01:18:25,279
forty nine released their album The Wolf and the King.

1674
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,680
One of the two Fortress Festival headliners for next year Lowen,

1675
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,039
which is the band on Church Road record. It's kind of,

1676
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,640
you know, interesting, kind of progressive doom, I suppose you'd

1677
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,119
call it, but with like lots of like Middle Eastern

1678
01:18:37,159 --> 01:18:39,279
elements and stuff like that that particularly in the singing.

1679
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,279
They released a record called Do Not Go to War

1680
01:18:41,359 --> 01:18:45,960
with the Demons of Mazandaran Cosmic putre Faction. I feel

1681
01:18:46,079 --> 01:18:48,039
very very bad for because they put out a cosmic theme.

1682
01:18:48,079 --> 01:18:49,319
Death met a record on the same day as the

1683
01:18:49,319 --> 01:18:51,680
Blank Pantation one, and I'm like, I'm sorry that was

1684
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,600
asking for a fight, but their record is you know,

1685
01:18:54,279 --> 01:18:56,960
if not brain melting, it's quite good. It's called Emerald

1686
01:18:57,039 --> 01:18:59,840
Fires atop of the Farewell Mountains. Going into slightly more

1687
01:19:00,119 --> 01:19:02,960
again hardcore, a Jason Meathead to death metal. A band

1688
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,840
called Maul released as in like Darth Maul will need

1689
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,680
to record called in the Jaws of Bereavement. And there

1690
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,119
was a couple of EPs that came out last week

1691
01:19:10,159 --> 01:19:12,840
as well. One of them comes from Motley Crue. It's

1692
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,479
called Canceled and it is a three song EP featuring

1693
01:19:17,039 --> 01:19:20,199
the whatever the fucking Dog's single was that they released first,

1694
01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:22,600
the Beastie Boys cover that we spoke about, and a

1695
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,199
title track of the EP Canceled. And the headlines around

1696
01:19:26,279 --> 01:19:31,159
this song are so insane because it's basically Motley Crue

1697
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:37,119
writing a song drawing attention to the fact that they

1698
01:19:37,279 --> 01:19:40,760
weren't actually canceled, despite all the hay in the things

1699
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,239
that they probably should have been canceled for. I don't

1700
01:19:43,239 --> 01:19:45,600
think I've ever seen that before. I've seen so many

1701
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,119
fucking old idiots being like, oh, they tried to cancel me,

1702
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:51,600
but they failed. Your kid, rock you count silence me

1703
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,119
or whatever. I have never seen a.

1704
01:19:53,159 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 2: Band going, hey, maybe someone should cancel us. Come on everyone,

1705
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,159
you know it was the we Got Away with Murder headline.

1706
01:20:03,159 --> 01:20:05,359
I'm like, yes, yes, you quite literally did, didn't you.

1707
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:06,960
Monty Crue like it.

1708
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,079
Speaker 1: Was vehicular manslaughter.

1709
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:09,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1710
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: Again, I've never seen someone very desperately being like, come on,

1711
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,239
please cancel us, come out and go. But that is

1712
01:20:16,279 --> 01:20:19,119
a thing that was released, and Silosis also released an

1713
01:20:19,159 --> 01:20:21,520
EP called The Path, which featured a handful of songs

1714
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,520
written and recorded during their sessions for their recent album.

1715
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,199
So that is there, Moving on to again, that's kind

1716
01:20:28,199 --> 01:20:30,079
of a highlights, if you can call that. Over the

1717
01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:32,960
last couple of weeks. Moving on to today's releases. The

1718
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,920
eleventh of October, another record I've completely forgotten about is

1719
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,920
kicking Us Off. It's the Offsprings new album super Charged

1720
01:20:39,159 --> 01:20:41,359
that is out. You excited, Mark, you pull on the face.

1721
01:20:42,039 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I'm gonna listen to it. Actually,

1722
01:20:46,319 --> 01:20:50,119
that stupid pop, like per pop song they released, So

1723
01:20:50,319 --> 01:20:52,000
if it's more of that, I'll probably like it. I

1724
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,239
don't know, I like stupid things.

1725
01:20:53,359 --> 01:20:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we probably might not check in on

1726
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,560
that one. October is busy enough as it is. Miles

1727
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,880
Kennedy is releasing a new song album called the Art

1728
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,279
of Letting Go. If you want to go for some

1729
01:21:02,399 --> 01:21:04,960
more you know, contemporary pop punk. I suppose Real Friends

1730
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,960
have an album called Blue Hour. Touche More have their

1731
01:21:08,039 --> 01:21:10,800
album out called Spiral in a Straight Line, which is

1732
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:16,479
not spiral anymore. It's a straight line. Envy More Post

1733
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,159
Hardcore Front, the Japanese legends of post Hardcore, releasing the

1734
01:21:20,199 --> 01:21:24,079
record in Innoyer, you know, Envy. The Linda Linda's, who

1735
01:21:24,119 --> 01:21:25,640
are a band I guess, are kind of kind of

1736
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,960
buzzy on the sort of a slightly more indie punk,

1737
01:21:28,039 --> 01:21:30,039
whatever kind of end. I've got a record out called

1738
01:21:30,119 --> 01:21:33,119
No Obligation. I'm Sam, I suppose to have interest asking

1739
01:21:33,199 --> 01:21:34,199
do you like the Linda Linda's at all.

1740
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 2: I've kind of like been observing them from a distance

1741
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,920
because I've been waiting for them to like do something

1742
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,600
I really like because there's been a lot of buzz

1743
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,439
around them, and I'm like, I don't object to them

1744
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,680
being popular, but they haven't like wowed me yet. But

1745
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:45,479
I'm gonna check in on.

1746
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,199
Speaker 1: This, yes, and then we're going to move into your

1747
01:21:48,319 --> 01:21:50,880
nastier stuff. And it kicks off with chat Pile, who

1748
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,199
are releasing their record Cool World, the follow up to

1749
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,880
a couple of years ago very acclaimed god's country record.

1750
01:21:57,239 --> 01:22:00,560
A Rancy Pazuzu have an album that I am getting

1751
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,960
a little bit better at pronouncing. I think, over my

1752
01:22:03,039 --> 01:22:06,760
various attempts, I believe it's muntautager, or at least that's

1753
01:22:07,159 --> 01:22:08,560
the quickest way it can roll off my tongue. But

1754
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,199
a Rancy Pezuzzi's record is out and you should definitely

1755
01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:13,840
go and listen to that one and Sam. Believe me,

1756
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,279
it's quite the release day for this stuff, because I

1757
01:22:16,359 --> 01:22:19,319
am I shit you not. Dodds mcgeared have a.

1758
01:22:19,359 --> 01:22:23,079
Speaker 2: Record, I do that, Dodhimes another one, and it's.

1759
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: Like you're closer than you think. It is an anagram

1760
01:22:26,039 --> 01:22:28,079
of Dodds Heims Guard because it is the main guy

1761
01:22:28,399 --> 01:22:30,359
releasing a sister album.

1762
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

1763
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: It is a new project from the copniqu from DoD

1764
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,720
Himes Guard releasing. There's a single that was released from this.

1765
01:22:39,119 --> 01:22:41,560
It's got a bit more like slightly six six six

1766
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,159
international vibes to me than like the latest record. It's

1767
01:22:44,359 --> 01:22:50,039
I think it's the slightly more aggressively mental versus the

1768
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,039
more smoothed out prog side that the DoD Heisger record

1769
01:22:54,079 --> 01:22:56,199
was doing. But if you like could not get enough

1770
01:22:56,199 --> 01:22:58,800
of DoD Himes Guard, then I'm not making this up.

1771
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,840
Dodd's mcgeared have a record album I did a double.

1772
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,079
Speaker 2: Te not many years is the last one, I swear,

1773
01:23:05,159 --> 01:23:07,279
And now you've said that like I hate him so much.

1774
01:23:07,319 --> 01:23:09,560
Speaker 1: He's back again. I'm going to check that record out,

1775
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,880
of course I am. The record is called Omniverse Consciousness.

1776
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,840
If you are having trouble searching for Dordsmageard, then we

1777
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,000
have the you know, kind of Swedish melo death long

1778
01:23:19,079 --> 01:23:22,039
running band The Crown releasing Crown of Forms. More contemporary

1779
01:23:22,079 --> 01:23:25,199
death metal band Vomit Fourth are releasing Terrified of God,

1780
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,880
and this is where I have to, you know, stretch.

1781
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,039
My Flemish demannin Broad does have a record sober Mal,

1782
01:23:31,159 --> 01:23:35,199
which is Colin from Arman Rah and a Flemish like

1783
01:23:35,319 --> 01:23:37,239
folk singer whose name I do not recall right now,

1784
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,359
basically doing like a kind of sort of folk country

1785
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,920
whatever kind of project together. So there you go. You

1786
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,520
can check those out. Thank you very much for listening.

1787
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,399
Let us know which are those many piles of albums

1788
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,119
you are enjoying as said, next week we will be

1789
01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:54,159
back here on this feed with a Damnation preview album

1790
01:23:54,279 --> 01:23:56,680
club pack, and then the week following that we will

1791
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,640
have the reviews episode. We are going to be talking

1792
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,479
you know a number of records that have appeared in

1793
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,560
that list just there, so join us once again for

1794
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,760
all of those things. Thank you very much for being

1795
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,840
with us here on this episode. Don't know not get

1796
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,680
canceled like Motley Crue didn't. I don't know where I'm

1797
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,239
going with this. Thanks everybody, Bye bye,