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All righty, So, I know a lot of 10 00:00:30,839 --> 00:00:33,920 people like to go back through, you know, the last 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,079 three hundred and sixty four days as we approach the 12 00:00:37,719 --> 00:00:42,840 you know, New Year, and it's it. There's I understand 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,320 why it's done. I'm not knocking it or anything like that. 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,359 I look at it like it's it's like the rolling 15 00:00:49,439 --> 00:00:52,759 over of your odometer in the car, you know, to 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,520 one hundred thousand miles and everybody's like, oh my gosh, 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,719 one hundred thousand or something. But it's no more of 18 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:03,240 a milestone. It's just an arbitrary milestone, you know, because 19 00:01:03,719 --> 00:01:05,680 if you wanted to market at one hundred and one 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,120 thousand miles, you could do that too. Why do I 21 00:01:08,159 --> 00:01:11,120 say all of this because I want to go back 22 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:14,560 and just briefly take a look at where we were, 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:20,799 not a year ago, but about four years ago. And 24 00:01:20,879 --> 00:01:22,920 I know a lot of people have sort of blocked 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,560 out a period of time in their memories. Probably started 26 00:01:27,599 --> 00:01:30,480 some time around the lockdowns when people were telling us to, 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,959 you know, wear masks alone in the car. But this 28 00:01:36,159 --> 00:01:41,640 was also the rise of sort of of peak woke, 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,719 if you will, although I I should say peak woke left, 30 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,400 because I think woke right is on the ascent right now, 31 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:53,920 so we'll have to deal with that, I'm sure in 32 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:59,959 twenty twenty six more thoroughly. But the leftists really really 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,799 made their push. They sort of emerged from a lot 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,919 of the shadows that they were hiding slash working in 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,360 government positions in and you know, attempted to seize the 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:19,240 opportunity that was, uh, that was laid before them with 37 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,800 the Black Lives Matter protest movement. And so about four 38 00:02:24,879 --> 00:02:27,719 years ago, five four and a half years ago or so, 39 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,159 starting in about twenty twenty, I was doing the podcast 40 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,479 and I wasn't on the radio at the time I 41 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,039 was doing the show, but it was a podcast, and 42 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,520 you know, I covered a lot of the you know, 43 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:46,759 the COVID stuff obviously, but also was seeing the rise 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,560 of the critical race theory DEI stuff. And the reason 45 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:53,280 I bring this back up is that there has been 46 00:02:53,319 --> 00:03:00,599 a development locally on the DEI front. So DEI stands 47 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,680 for diversity, equity, and inclusion. I've seen some people swap 48 00:03:04,759 --> 00:03:08,520 the I and the E, so now it's die or die. 49 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,960 It's sort of a reference to what it will do 50 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:16,319 to civilization. And people sometimes are confused as to what 51 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:20,520 the difference may be between critical race theory and DEI. 52 00:03:21,879 --> 00:03:26,639 So here's a here's a just a rule of thumb 53 00:03:26,719 --> 00:03:32,199 you can go by. Okay, DEI is critical race theory. Okay, 54 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:37,840 it's it's just a different rebrand. Okay, same ideas, uh, 55 00:03:37,919 --> 00:03:42,000 same underlying philosophy, just a different way to package it 56 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:49,159 and make it palatable to the ignorant. Okay, CRT is 57 00:03:49,199 --> 00:03:52,360 you know, Oh, that's just an esoteric legal theory that 58 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,479 was taught in some Harvard law school classes. Blah blah blah. 59 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,759 And again, I'm not going to go back and rehash 60 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,360 all of the arguments about CRT and what it's all 61 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,479 about and its roots and history and the origins and 62 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,719 all that. It's not necessary at this point, it's a 63 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,000 it's Marxist, it's it's a cancer, it's toxic to the 64 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,360 body politic and it has it got repackaged in the 65 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:21,279 form of DEI and then injected into you know, the institutions, 66 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,839 because that is what you know, the left does under 67 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,839 the you know, the auspices of the the long March 68 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,920 through the institutions, as promoted by the Italian communist Antonio 69 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:39,000 Grahams sheet. So uh Ian Hersey Ali wrote about this 70 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:45,360 four years ago. She said, uh the talking about de 71 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:51,519 I and quoting the Heritage Foundation how to identify critical 72 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,360 race theory, And in this piece it warns of a 73 00:04:54,399 --> 00:04:57,920 new tactic deployed by the movement's defenders. They now deny 74 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,319 that the curricula and train A programs in question form 75 00:05:02,439 --> 00:05:07,279 part of CRT, instead insisting that the diversity, equity and 76 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:11,759 inclusion programs of trainers like Ibramex Kendy and Robin DiAngelo. 77 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,199 You'll recall Kendy was paid tens of thousands of dollars 78 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,800 to do like a thirty minute zoom call with CMS 79 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:25,759 educators and administrators here in town. Robin DiAngelo, the white 80 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:28,120 woman who wrote a book about white fragility and said, 81 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,720 if any you know, non white person accuses you of 82 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,519 being a racist, you have to accept that if you 83 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,120 try to argue against it, that proves you're a racist 84 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:42,319 and you're fragile. Right, It's almost like it's almost like 85 00:05:42,319 --> 00:05:45,240 you're you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Anyway, 86 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,360 the DEI programs of trainers like Kendy and DiAngelo, that 87 00:05:50,439 --> 00:05:53,199 they're they're denying that this is CRT, that the that 88 00:05:53,319 --> 00:05:56,920 DEI is distinct from the academic work of professors like 89 00:05:57,079 --> 00:06:02,319 Derek Bell, Kimberly Crenshaw. Those are the cr T architects. 90 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:08,120 But Ion Heirs Ali says, certainly, regardless of which trendy 91 00:06:08,199 --> 00:06:11,399 three letter term you prefer to describe the latest iteration 92 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:14,879 of America's obsession with race, the goal in each case 93 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:19,879 is the same. It's to shift away from meritocracy in 94 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:26,079 favor of an equality of outcome system. Right, That's the 95 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,839 through line there, She goes on to say later in 96 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:33,439 this piece. Instead of focusing on ways to lift black 97 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,399 students up as individuals with their own agency, ability and choice, 98 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,040 they believe the system must reorient itself to produce the 99 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,439 desired outcome starting with kindergarten. It is dependent on the 100 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:52,120 magnification of barriers and tension between racial groups, something, she says, 101 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,920 I suspect is psychologically damaging to both white and black students, 102 00:06:56,959 --> 00:06:59,600 and she is correct. There. For white students, the blame 103 00:06:59,639 --> 00:07:02,920 of slavery and Jim Crow laws are laid at their feet. 104 00:07:03,439 --> 00:07:06,879 For black children, the situations no better. Students are taught 105 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:10,439 that it's the system, not their own effort or abilities, 106 00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:13,279 that will determine their future in life. This, of course, 107 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:19,879 discourages hard work, motivation, ambition, and aspiration. It breeds distrust 108 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,439 and hostility towards their white teachers. It truncates their abilities 109 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,399 to learn and progress in school. As Ian Rowe points out, 110 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,279 the narrative that white people hold the power conveys a 111 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,920 wrongheaded notion of white superiority and creates an illusion of 112 00:07:35,959 --> 00:07:38,759 black dependency on white largess. In other words, you don't 113 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,439 have anything unless white people give it to you, and 114 00:07:41,519 --> 00:07:45,720 in the schools themselves, this often leads to physical segregation. 115 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,759 Right and finally, she says later in this piece, it's 116 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:51,920 a pretty lengthy piece, but I've kept it all these years. 117 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,839 I keep folders, I print stuff out I keep folders 118 00:07:54,839 --> 00:07:56,720 of topics, and that's why I am able to pull 119 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,000 this stuff back out when needed, and it is needed 120 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,720 now because some new devel elements locally here on the 121 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:04,720 DEI front. She says, rather than push race to the 122 00:08:04,759 --> 00:08:09,560 foreground of education, the so called anti racists would do 123 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,560 better to cultivate a learning environment for students where the 124 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:17,079 focus is on being kind and respectful, which Rob Henderson, 125 00:08:17,759 --> 00:08:20,519 the author, was talking about this the other day. I 126 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,199 saw where you know you're born and you have a 127 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:27,639 certain level of intelligence, right, that's sort of genetic, But 128 00:08:27,959 --> 00:08:30,920 so you can't really like train yourself into being more 129 00:08:30,959 --> 00:08:35,840 intelligent having a higher IQ. You can, however, train yourself 130 00:08:35,879 --> 00:08:39,799 into being polite, respectful, ambitious. You can do those things. 131 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,720 Those are all within your abilities and they will have 132 00:08:42,759 --> 00:08:47,519 more lasting impacts on your life than simple IQ. So 133 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,480 focus on that, all right. If you're listening to this show, 134 00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:52,039 you know I try to keep up with all sorts 135 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,080 of current events, and I know you do too, And 136 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,600 you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. 137 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Why Well, because it's how you dete media bias, which 138 00:09:01,399 --> 00:09:04,320 is why I've been so impressed with ground news. It's 139 00:09:04,399 --> 00:09:07,840 an app, and it's a website and it combines news 140 00:09:07,879 --> 00:09:09,799 from around the world in one place, so you can 141 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,200 compare coverage and verify information. 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I use 151 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,240 the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. 152 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,200 Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it 153 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,399 also supports ground News as they make the media landscape 154 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:56,320 more transparent. So why am I going over this stuff 155 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,600 about DEI and CRT that was so four years ago? Yes? 156 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:07,000 It was. However, However, a UNC Charlotte administrator who was 157 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:12,159 fired over the summer after an undercover video of her 158 00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:18,480 went viral has now filed a federal lawsuit against UNC Charlotte. 159 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:27,159 The story from WBTV by Naomi Coles says that Janique 160 00:10:27,399 --> 00:10:36,799 or Jenique Nick Janique Jenique Sanders. Miss Sanders lawsuit accuses 161 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,200 the university of violating her First Amendment right to freedom 162 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,039 of speech, as well as discriminating her against her for 163 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,840 her race because she is well, I mean, this story 164 00:10:47,879 --> 00:10:52,000 says African American, which I thought you aren't You supposed 165 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:55,399 to say black with a capital B. Isn't that the 166 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,879 AP style? Has the AP style changed again? I can't 167 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:03,360 keep up. The videos that went viral were short clips 168 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:08,519 from the full exchange that represented personal opinions and lacked context. 169 00:11:08,759 --> 00:11:13,080 The lawsuit claims neither did the university interview her or 170 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:18,559 conduct a full investigation. Sanders at the time served as 171 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:23,600 the Assistant Director of Leadership and Community Engagement, a role 172 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,759 that the lawsuit says had been renamed from a previous 173 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:32,000 role in the university's Office of Identity, Equity and Engagement. 174 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:38,320 That office was renamed after the Board of Governors that 175 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,559 oversees the college. The Board of Governors in twenty twenty 176 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:50,480 four repealed the DEI policy language, and so UNC Charlotte 177 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:56,759 changed the name of this office right and in the lawsuit, 178 00:11:56,799 --> 00:12:01,320 it says that the leadership of her department expressed in 179 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:06,519 internal meetings, a desire to preserve core aspects of its 180 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,879 prior mission without running a foul of the Board of 181 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:14,519 Governor's anti DEI mandate. What does that mean? What it 182 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,639 means They wanted to keep doing the work. Right, They 183 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:21,840 were going to continue doing what they were doing, knowing 184 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,840 that this is now illegal. Right, the state passed a law. 185 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,600 The Board of Governors passed a law. I mean, heck, 186 00:12:27,639 --> 00:12:29,759 even the Trump administration passed a law about all of 187 00:12:29,799 --> 00:12:33,639 this stuff, just stripping the DEI crap out of these 188 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:42,639 colleges and universities and unc Charlotte's department formerly called the 189 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:46,840 the Office of Identity, Equity and Engagement, or the IEE, 190 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,960 or as I like to call it, the ie They 191 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:56,120 changed it to the Leadership and Community Engagement Center. Okay, 192 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:02,799 And so when a couple of undercover investigators with a 193 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:09,120 video camera went into this office and asked, you know, hey, 194 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,000 how can we help. We want to get jobs with you, 195 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,480 We want to spread the DEI stuff or whatever whatever, 196 00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:19,919 and Ms Sanders gave away the game. She told them, 197 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,279 she said, like, yeah, like we got to do it 198 00:13:22,279 --> 00:13:24,080 basically on the down low. I mean, she didn't say 199 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,000 it like that. I have her quote. She said the 200 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:34,759 university had to be renamed, reorganized, and recalibrated. According to 201 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:38,080 the lawsuit, The ugly reality this is from her lawyer. 202 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,639 The ugly reality is that miss Sanders was targeted because 203 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,759 she provided a black female image for an agenda that 204 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:50,960 questions black and female talent, which is not exactly That's 205 00:13:51,039 --> 00:13:53,720 not really what happened at all. She's asking for a 206 00:13:53,759 --> 00:13:56,679 jury trial, so we'll see how that goes. But the 207 00:13:56,759 --> 00:14:02,399 lawsuit says, instead of defending one of its own stars, Okay, 208 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:12,519 was she really a star? Really like a star? I 209 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,240 kind of feel like I would have known about her 210 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,320 then before she got fired for this undercover video. I 211 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:18,679 feel like I would have known about her if she 212 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:21,519 was a star of UNC Charlotte, you know. But whatever. 213 00:14:22,519 --> 00:14:25,919 Instead of defending one of its own stars, UNCC bowed 214 00:14:25,919 --> 00:14:32,679 to bigotry and the threat of political backlash. So the 215 00:14:32,759 --> 00:14:34,960 crux of this argument, and this is why I actually 216 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,440 think that UNC Charlotte might be in some trouble on 217 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:43,240 this lawsuit. It's not because of the discrimination claim. I'd 218 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:47,320 need to see some evidence to support this claim. But 219 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,559 if the argument here is that the core aspects of 220 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:56,919 the DEI program would remain in violation of the law 221 00:14:57,919 --> 00:15:01,039 and the mandates that came down from the b of Governors. Right, 222 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,559 And if she was told this, if miss Sanders was 223 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,919 told all of this by her her bosses in this 224 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,799 formerly the IE but now the Leadership and Community Engagement Center, 225 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,480 then it seems to me like she was told, we're 226 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,480 gonna keep doing the core aspects of the mission. We're 227 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,720 gonna keep doing what we're doing. We are just going 228 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:28,200 to find a way to not do it overtly, to 229 00:15:28,279 --> 00:15:31,759 kind of go underground with it, maybe waited out until 230 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,399 some you know, Democrats take over and then they can 231 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,639 re implement the DEI infrastructure and we'll just kind of 232 00:15:37,639 --> 00:15:39,799 rebrand back to what we were and keep going with 233 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,960 what we're doing. So the core aspects remain what Sanders did, 234 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,200 what she told the truth, and that's what got her fired. 235 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:58,799 So actually she could be considered a whistleblower. See, like 236 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,480 I think I think she and her attorney. Now she 237 00:16:01,519 --> 00:16:05,279 did hire some attorney who's like a workplace discrimination lawyer, 238 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,919 guy who like this is his jam, and so maybe 239 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,799 that's you know, you know, if you're a hammer, everything 240 00:16:11,799 --> 00:16:14,000 looks like a nail kind of a thing. But I 241 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,759 you know, maybe you could have gone with like a 242 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:21,159 whistleblower defense or lawsuit to say that, look, this is 243 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,519 what the leadership in the department said, We were just 244 00:16:24,559 --> 00:16:31,120 going to rebrand, recalibrate, rename, reorganize, but the core aspects 245 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,639 of the mission would remain in place, in violation of law. 246 00:16:35,679 --> 00:16:40,120 And so her mistake was saying that out loud, right, 247 00:16:41,799 --> 00:16:45,240 let me go to the oh. And then of course 248 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:48,360 the leadership of the department threw her under the bus 249 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,279 in order to avoid responsibility, but also because she got 250 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:54,679 caught talking about the subversion that was going on in 251 00:16:54,679 --> 00:16:57,919 this department. So they fire her. They cut her loose 252 00:16:58,159 --> 00:17:01,840 because she told some undercover kids the truth, and so 253 00:17:01,879 --> 00:17:07,359 she gets fired for that. That's not discrimination, by the way. Okay, 254 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,920 they didn't fire her because she's black. Now she's The 255 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,559 lawsuit does lay out well, it lays out some questions. 256 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:18,759 We're just asking questions, and the main question is did 257 00:17:18,759 --> 00:17:23,640 any other white person say these things? Well, there's no 258 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,079 evidence that any other white person said these things to 259 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:31,640 an undercover video team, right that then went viral. But 260 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,079 because we don't know if anybody who is white that 261 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,359 works in this department thinks the same things or says 262 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,359 the same things or whatever, then therefore she got fired 263 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,559 because she's black, and that's like, that's a stretch. I 264 00:17:44,599 --> 00:17:48,119 don't I don't know how they intend to prove this. 265 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:53,640 Desiree Methurin, a reporter at the Charlotte Observer, starts off 266 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,839 her story on this. 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How are you doing great? 297 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me back. 298 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,519 Speaker 1: Certainly so. The last time we spoke was right after 299 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,240 the video from a couple of your I guess the 300 00:19:57,319 --> 00:20:01,079 lawsuit calls them operatives. What do you call them investigators? 301 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 2: Investigating? I would say investigative journalists, or more accurately, perhaps 302 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,039 people who are very adept at putting frowns on the 303 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:09,200 faces of bad folks. 304 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,799 Speaker 1: Right. So, okay, So the last time we spoke, we 305 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:15,920 were talking about this video that went viral of a 306 00:20:16,039 --> 00:20:21,839 UNC Charlotte DEI officer who was basically saying, look, we're 307 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,559 just doing a rebrand of the DEI office here at 308 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,240 UNC Charlotte. Don't worry. We know the rules change. The 309 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,839 board of governors told us to stop doing this, the 310 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,359 state government told us to stop doing this. Heck, even 311 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,799 the president said stop doing this, but we're kind of 312 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:39,839 still doing it, so don't worry. And then the video 313 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,680 goes viral and she gets fired the next day. She 314 00:20:42,759 --> 00:20:46,720 has now filed the lawsuit against UNC Charlotte. So I 315 00:20:46,759 --> 00:20:48,960 don't know, you probably have a bunch of attorneys that 316 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:51,000 work with you. Guys, considering the nature of the work 317 00:20:51,079 --> 00:20:53,480 you do, have you had a chance to look at 318 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,119 the at the lawsuit that's been filed against UNC Charlotte. 319 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: You know, we have looked at the lawsuit our attorneys 320 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:02,240 have looked at the lawsuit and one part of it 321 00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:06,000 stood out to me is particularly egregious and slightly hysterical. 322 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,519 You know, she claimed that UNC Charlotte doesn't appreciate female talent. Well, 323 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,440 our female investigator who captured this woman bragging about how 324 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,279 they ignore the law at UNC Charlotte. I think she's 325 00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:20,119 got a tremendous amount of talent and I think a 326 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,160 lot of North Carolinians appreciate it. 327 00:21:22,279 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a lot of this stuff reads almost 328 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:31,200 like an op ed versus a legal brief. But you 329 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,319 guys are mentioned several times, and so I was kind 330 00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:37,400 of curious to get your, uh, to get your reaction 331 00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:39,599 to the way this is written up. So it says 332 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,880 a accuracy and media or AIM targeted Sanders for one 333 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,720 of its periodic sting videos. We're unsuspecting employees or videotaped 334 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:54,240 making comments that AIM believes reflect their employer's liberal agenda. 335 00:21:54,839 --> 00:21:56,640 What do you what do you think about that framing? 336 00:21:57,839 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know, there are a couple of problems with 337 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,640 that UNC Charlotte isn't liberal. Liberal would be a wonderful 338 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,279 improvement and a move to the middle relative to where 339 00:22:05,279 --> 00:22:08,319 they are. UNC Charlotte is clearly run by far left 340 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,359 radicals who have no regard for the law. And I 341 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,839 can tell you this because we've revisited now many of 342 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,440 the universities that we exposed previously in twenty twenty five. 343 00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:22,359 And whereas these universities like UNC Charlotte claim, oh, that 344 00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:25,319 was just one bad apple, well we've gone back and 345 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,960 found that really it's an orchard full of apples. And 346 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,359 if they're so poor at hiring in their administration that 347 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,160 they consistently hire people who break or circumvent the law, 348 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,960 they're either incompetent or they're in on it. I think 349 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,680 the latter is more likely. I think these institutions are 350 00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:45,640 rotten from the top to the bottom, and North Carolina 351 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,960 higher education needs major reform. 352 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:52,279 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I said that where missus Sanders messed up 353 00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:54,880 and why she got fired was that she told the 354 00:22:54,960 --> 00:23:00,000 truth because according to her, this was inside the department 355 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,160 and formerly the you know, the DEI office, and now 356 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,920 they rebranded it to name it something else, but the 357 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:12,079 core aspects of their work were to continue, according to her, 358 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,000 and what she attributes to the you know, the belief 359 00:23:16,039 --> 00:23:20,000 that was spread around that office was that look, we're 360 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,559 just going to rebrand ourselves, kind of go underground, but 361 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:25,400 we're still going to keep doing this work. Her problem 362 00:23:25,519 --> 00:23:28,119 was she said it out loud to a couple of 363 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,160 your undercover agents there, and that's why she got fired. 364 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,680 Although now she's claiming she got fired because she's black, 365 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,880 which I'm not really sure how that happens. 366 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,319 Speaker 2: And I love the goal of them to claim the 367 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,920 narcissism from miss Sanders, to claim that she was targeted. Well, 368 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,799 we released what seven or eight videos from various North 369 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:50,400 Carolina universities. It's a pretty wide target, you know. It's 370 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,920 not as if we went after Janique Sanders. We went 371 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,519 after every major institution in the state of North Carolina, 372 00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:59,039 and as I said, we've done it multiple times in 373 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,559 multiple department. I wish she I'm sure she believes she's 374 00:24:02,599 --> 00:24:06,480 so important that we specifically targeted her, But the reality 375 00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:09,759 is we target all of higher education in Rader purple 376 00:24:09,759 --> 00:24:13,319 states across America because the people who run higher education, 377 00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:16,839 unfortunately in America, are radicals who think that they are 378 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,839 above the law. Janique Sanders is just a prime example 379 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,079 of it. 380 00:24:20,519 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: So the lawsuit goes on to say in bullet point 381 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,319 thirty six, aim does not practice UNC's current stance of 382 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:34,160 institutional neutrality on subjects of racial controversy. So do you 383 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,160 think that do you think that that is accurate, that 384 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,480 your organization does not practice what UNC has as its 385 00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:47,640 stance of institutional neutrality on subjects of racial controversy. 386 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:50,799 Speaker 2: You know, when I see something like that, it really 387 00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:53,680 makes me wonder, is this a pro bono attorney? What 388 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,119 are we dealing with here that she would expect accuracy 389 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:01,559 and media to follow UNC Charlotte's internal policies. Listen, as 390 00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:04,680 we know from UNC Charlotte, they don't follow state law, 391 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,480 they don't follow border governor's rulings, they don't follow executive 392 00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:11,400 orders at UNC Charlotte, and the goal on them to 393 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,599 think that others should follow their internal policies is the 394 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,359 most obvious version of hypocrisy I've seen in some wild 395 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,599 it's really rules for thee but not for me. 396 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: There's another point here. They say that your organization and 397 00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:31,119 its ideological counterparts regard racial diversity as a device to 398 00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:35,960 elevate racial minorities in the workforce at the expense of whites. 399 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,000 That belief, in turn, is often informed by an assumption 400 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,000 that the rise of minorities in leadership roles is unconnected 401 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:47,720 to merit and derives instead from an unfair edge in 402 00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:49,279 the form of quotas. 403 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: It's unbelievably sickening to hear racist language like that in 404 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,160 twenty twenty five. After all, she doesn't exactly know the 405 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,319 racial makeup of our organization and what we are as 406 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,319 an organization are people who celebrate Martin Luther King's dream 407 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,680 of a colorblind society, where we could be judged based 408 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,119 on the content of our character as opposed to the 409 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,440 color of our skin. The problem with the radicals today 410 00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:17,400 is that they hide behind things that on the surface 411 00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:22,119 are great, like diversity. I love diversity. They hide behind 412 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,680 good things and use them as a trojan horse to 413 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:28,559 advance bad things. But even if you scratch the service 414 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,400 just slightly, you'll realize that their belief in diversity is 415 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,880 an utter lie, because they certainly don't believe in diversity 416 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,640 of thought, They certainly don't believe in diversity of religion. 417 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,720 They certainly don't believe in diversity of political ideology. Look 418 00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:47,000 at the makeup of voter registration and the political science departments, 419 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,839 look at the makeup of donations from their administrators. And 420 00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:53,680 from their staffers. This is the most homogenous organization you 421 00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:57,400 could find outside of perhaps the Nazi Party. So for 422 00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:00,359 them to claim that they care about diversity and we don't, 423 00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,039 is it of not just lie That speaks more about 424 00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:04,359 them than it does about us. 425 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: Now, I think UNC Charlotte might actually have a problem 426 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,079 with this lawsuit, not based on the racial discrimination grounds, 427 00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:15,839 but the fact that she, according to the lawsuit, if 428 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,720 we believe what's in the lawsuit, that she was not 429 00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:23,680 provided with specific grounds for her firing, and that her 430 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:28,160 two superiors in the office there that they did not 431 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:33,599 articulate to her any provision of the UNCC policies that 432 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,160 she had violated. So, like, I'm no lawyer, but it 433 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,079 sounds to me like I think you probably should be 434 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,720 told why you're getting fired. I mean, even if it's 435 00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:46,160 the obvious, Hey you said some stupid stuff on the 436 00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:50,279 video that went viral, or hey you said some stuff 437 00:27:50,319 --> 00:27:53,200 that we are not doing. You told some people that 438 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,640 you were doing things that we are not doing, but 439 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,440 they never gave her a reason. What do you think 440 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:57,799 about that? 441 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 2: Well, when you're on a viral video where you and 442 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,599 your own words brag about circumventing state law, and it 443 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,400 gets millions and millions of views. The House Speaker, the 444 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,960 Senate President, I think the Assistant Attorney General of the 445 00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:12,160 United States all get involved in this video. I think 446 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,359 the reason is pretty clear. Now. The sad thing is 447 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:19,599 you've got an institution that employees people sell up noxiously 448 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,960 feeling like they're above the law, that they can sue 449 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,720 after getting caught bragging about circumventing the law, and now 450 00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:30,200 that taxpayers are forced to defend themselves. And I wouldn't 451 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,160 be surprised, of course, if the university just settles. After all, 452 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:36,559 it's not their money, it's ours, so it's no skin 453 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,519 off their back to settle and hand out our money 454 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,279 to somebody who they're probably sympathetic with, other than the 455 00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:44,160 fact that she let the cat out of the back. 456 00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:47,559 But it really speaks again to the fact that these 457 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,640 institutions are rotten to the core. Janique Sanders is just 458 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,519 one example out of many showing the fact that these 459 00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:58,079 people think they're above the law. And it's important to 460 00:28:58,119 --> 00:29:01,720 remember we don't embed ourselves and these universities for long 461 00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:04,720 periods of time building up trust week after week, month 462 00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:07,880 after month. We're there briefly these are people they've met 463 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,960 for five minutes, and yet they're so willing to brag 464 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,240 about circumventing the law. That speaks about how confident they 465 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,559 are that they're above everything. 466 00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:17,759 Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah, it's a good point. You're 467 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:21,559 not earning their trust. You're not, you know, insinuating yourself 468 00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:26,079 into their operations for weeks or months or anything like that. 469 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,680 It's like, Hey, my name is Pete. I'd like to 470 00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:31,200 help you do the work here. How do I do that? 471 00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:36,000 And then they just start telling you And I'm confused 472 00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:40,359 also by part of this lawsuit that claims that she 473 00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:45,200 is having her First Amendment right to freedom of speech abridged, 474 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:50,119 basically that the comments that she made were spoken outside 475 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,680 the scope of her job and the scope of her authority. 476 00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:55,160 What do you think about that argument? 477 00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: I mean, incredibly hysterical. You know, I suppose any person 478 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,480 who's ever confessed to a crime should try to get 479 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,720 it tossed by claiming, well, I've got First Amendment rights 480 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,119 to speak my mind, you confess to a crime, own 481 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,680 up to it. You know. The fortunate thing about this 482 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,160 is the subsequent damage she's potentially doing to her own career, 483 00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:19,440 because previously she could have just moved on and said, well, 484 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,480 I spoke at a turn once. It was a mistake. 485 00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:23,279 I said some things that I shouldn't have said, and 486 00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:26,240 so forth and gotten a job at another wacky university. 487 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:30,039 Our country is riddled with them. But now, who would 488 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:32,240 want to hire her? You know, even if she's your 489 00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:35,880 ideological ally at any other university in the North Carolina 490 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,119 University system. This isn't somebody that I would probably be 491 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,880 desperate to hire if I was an employer based on 492 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,839 her suing her past employer. So it seems as if 493 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,599 she's doing reputational damage to herself. 494 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: Well she may get a podcast out of it. So 495 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:50,839 there is that. 496 00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: There is that one twenty five America. Everyone has a 497 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,599 podcast exactly at birth with social security numbers. 498 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, hey, look I can't throwstone here in my position, 499 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:03,160 So Adam gillaad is there anything else you want to 500 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,720 mention here before we let you go that you think 501 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,400 people should know that's important or interesting. 502 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: Well, we have a ton more investigations from the state 503 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,599 of North Carolina coming out in the next few weeks. 504 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:17,079 CM on our website, aim dot org, aim dot org, 505 00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:20,960 and on every social media platform we visited new universities, 506 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,359 and we've revisited Olds universities and North Carolina absolutely needs 507 00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:27,960 major reform for their higher education system. 508 00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: Dude, you're going to get You're going to get us 509 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,839 sued again, and then we're going to have to pay 510 00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:35,079 out more money to these people to settle like I'm. 511 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,519 Speaker 2: What, well, fire all the bad apples and then their 512 00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:39,559 own fetting more lawsuits. 513 00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: All right tooche, fairpoint, fairpoint. 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So 543 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,720 this uh, I'm trying to see what her official title was. 544 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,039 Just as she was employed in the Office of Identity, 545 00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:35,279 Equity and Engagement at UNC Charlotte Janique Sanders, and she 546 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,079 was caught on camera talking about how basically they're doing 547 00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:43,039 this end run around the state law and the mandate 548 00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:45,960 from the Board of governors to say, you know, you're 549 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,759 not allowed to teach this or implement these divisive quote 550 00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:52,920 unquote DEI initiatives. I'm gonna go into some of the 551 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,000 details on what the DEI stuff actually is all about 552 00:33:56,599 --> 00:34:00,680 in the next hour. But from the lawsuit, she says 553 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,920 that within twenty four hours after the video went viral 554 00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:10,360 from Accuracy and Media, the UNCC Associate Vice Chancellor of 555 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:15,840 Student Affairs Karen Schaeffer or Schaeffer Schaeffer, and it's executive 556 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:22,920 director of Student Affairs, Frank Fleming, they fired her for 557 00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:26,599 what the lawsuit claims is her exercise of her rights 558 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,159 as an American to speak on a matter of controversy 559 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:35,960 and public concern. See, here's the problem, though you're on 560 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:43,519 the job. You're on the job, and you're talking about 561 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:51,320 how you and your colleagues are violating the law. This 562 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,960 is why I say, like, if anything, you should have 563 00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:56,440 made this a whistleblower case. You should have tried to 564 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,320 make a play like, oh, I was just trying to 565 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,000 get the information out there. I'm a whistleblower. She asserts 566 00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:05,880 a cause of action under the mixed motive provision of 567 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,400 Title seven of the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four, 568 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,119 on the grounds that her firing reflects an impermissible injection 569 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:18,119 of racial bias into an employment decision. Now, there's no 570 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,000 proof that race played any role in any of this. 571 00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:27,480 It almost sounds like a disparate outcome argument that they're 572 00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:32,719 attempting to make, but they don't actually make it that. 573 00:35:33,039 --> 00:35:34,920 It's what I mean, this is a very odd kind 574 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,599 of a lawsuit. Not a lot of there's well, there's 575 00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:41,719 like no evidence here. It goes on to say that 576 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,440 she grew up in Newark, New Jersey, which, look, I understand, 577 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,639 we all have our cross to bear. But she moved 578 00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:50,840 to Charlotte in twenty eleven. She attended UNCC for a year. 579 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,480 She then transferred back up to Jersey. When to Rutgers, 580 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,440 she spent a whole bunch of time up there, got 581 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,079 you know, all sorts of degrees and stuff. Spent two 582 00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:02,239 years working in the broad field at Rutgers, in the 583 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,000 broad field of equity and outreach to campus communities. Her 584 00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:13,280 various roles included facilitating interactive dialogue on social justice concerns, 585 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,760 advising student affinity groups, and supervising teams of Federal work 586 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,440 study students. You get the idea of what this woman's 587 00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:29,800 life work is about. Right. She then returned to Charlotte 588 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:36,920 and joined this IEE office. Her focus was on institutional 589 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,480 programs that sought to engage students who were part of 590 00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:45,320 marginalized economic, ethnic, and social communities. The goal was to 591 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,800 replace alienation and conflict with a sense of shared community. 592 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:55,239 Which is crap. Okay, that's bs. That is not what 593 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,800 DEI does. It is divisive. The whole point of it 594 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:05,119 is to make everybody see everything and everyone else through 595 00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:10,920 a prism of class, in this case racial class, or 596 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,760 it could be gender class. Back in Marx's day it 597 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,599 was economic class. It's the same model. They just swap 598 00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:23,599 out the different prisms. It's like, oh, okay, the economic 599 00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:26,159 prism isn't really working, so let's see here, let me 600 00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:30,000 look around. Oh here we go. Here's a prism for you, 601 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,880 the racial prism. View everything through that, and at the 602 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,119 heart of it is always the same oppressed oppressor dynamic. 603 00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:42,039 It's power dynamics. This is Marxism. It's all about power dynamics. 604 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,119 And they will tell you this. By the way, the 605 00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:47,760 folks who create created the critical race theory stuff, which 606 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,119 was basically just the latest iteration of critical theory, which 607 00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:55,880 that comes from Marxism. Right, So it's a direct line, Okay. 608 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,920 So the DEI is just the latest rebrand of that thing. 609 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,119 So this idea that oh I was just here to 610 00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:07,440 replace alienation and conflict with the sense of shared community 611 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,280 by telling people that the only reason that they have 612 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,679 any problems is because somebody is doing it to them. Right. 613 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,760 Sanders was part of unc c's umbrella of DEI initiatives, 614 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,880 which emerged in the aftermath of a racially turbulent time 615 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,000 in American history, notorious incidents in which two black Americans, 616 00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:28,920 Breonna Taylor and George Floyd, were victims of what were 617 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,559 widely regarded as excessive and disproportionate uses of deadly force 618 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,760 by law enforcement, not even going to go into the 619 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:41,000 cases for a brief season, Yes, yes, a very brief season. 620 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,079 The unc systems DEI agenda was a subject of bipartisan 621 00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:48,320 and corporate praise and aligned with the national trend of 622 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,360 expanding closed circles of leadership. Black women were elevated to 623 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,079 the United States Supreme Court and the position of Vice 624 00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:59,280 President of the United States. What does he say there? 625 00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,960 What is the all you're saying? Here that these are 626 00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:07,000 DEI picks. That's what he's saying. So for all the 627 00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:10,760 outrage when anybody on the right calls Katanji Brown Jackson 628 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,440 on the US Supreme Court whenever she makes some crazy 629 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:16,519 statements or makes some stupid arguments and says, like one 630 00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:19,239 of the million times per oral arguments that she doesn't 631 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,320 understand something, and people point out that she's a DEI 632 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:26,639 Supreme Court appointment, and the left goes bonkers over this. 633 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,440 What are you saying here in this very case, you're 634 00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:33,599 saying that in the wake of, you know, the summer 635 00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:37,360 of fiery but mostly peaceful rioting, that all of a sudden, 636 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:43,960 there's this national trend of expanding closed leadership circles to 637 00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:47,000 include black women being elevated to the US Supreme Court 638 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,320 and the Vice President of the United States. So you're 639 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,039 saying that was a result of this, these types of actions, 640 00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:57,599 these DEI actions. So he cannot gaslight me on this people. 641 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,719 All right, that'll do for this episode. Thank you so 642 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,920 much for listening. I could not do the show without 643 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,760 your support and the support of the businesses that advertise 644 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,519 on the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them 645 00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:11,159 too and tell them you heard it here. You can 646 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,840 also become a patron at my Patreon page or go 647 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,920 to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, 648 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000 and don't break anything while I'm gone.