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all manner of weeping away on a national teeth to

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BAU men's basketball team? And why is it that they

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it they didn't put forth the effort? Why is it

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Let's fire up to ESPN the Fan starting lineup and

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way better effort than any one of these Boa basketball

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players last night, even though he's not in his prime shape.

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I would have rather seen Ronald run out there last night.

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Let's welcome him and Ronald the Three Man Weaver. Ron

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do you think you can put forth better effort than

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the basketball team last night?

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Speaker 2: Does a bare poopin in the woods?

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Speaker 4: To go with my sayings, if I slap you with

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Speaker 2: Yes, Ben, And in the words of Brian Logan, I

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Speaker 3: Can I cuss on here?

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Speaker 4: No, I can't, But yeah, Ben, Look, there's a difference

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if you just if you're trying and then you're just unsuccessful,

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Speaker 2: There was no effort. It was non existent.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't move a parkr, it couldn't be put in

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Speaker 2: This team was atrocious. In the words of the great

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Speaker 2: Like it was very very bad, Ben, Like I was shocked.

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Speaker 4: On the pregame basketball show, the UCF guys, uc guys

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gonna be fifteen points BYU's way. And I'm watching this

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unravel open three after open three, and I said, what

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whole team. It was bad.

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Speaker 4: Everybody looked completely discombobulated. It was piss poor effort and

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you represent your university and honestly, it didn't look like

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the typical BYU thing. You get a big win and

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it felt like. That's my opening monologue. That's all I

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any further than that, But the pie tart of accountability

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the scout last night, but the defense for the entire

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to this this staff, the team, et cetera. But now

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welcome in Hammertime show, Brenda was bringing the ham hammerton.

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How you feeling today, bro? I read some good comic

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books last night. Oh thank you guys they gave you.

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Speaker 5: There was a game I forgot because I was like, oh,

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half in like five minutes ago. I was like, all right, babe,

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Speaker 3: So I will say I was pleased with what I

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Speaker 5: Say the game, watching the game and then leading into

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Sports Center reminded me that I liked falling asleep to

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the sound sports Center. So something A couple of good

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not for anyone else who plays for Body Basketball, or

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for anyone else who's in the arena, anyone else who

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want had to go to film today because apparently, yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: It was very, very bad. In the middle of the game, like,

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Speaker 5: I know the score says thirteen points. It at no

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one's sitting here, man, Like, man, it feels way better

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than a thirty point loss.

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like one, right, yeah, yeah. And so I was pulling

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data on this, I was like, Okay, hell, how many

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times has this happened since nineteen ninety six? Just happened

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eleven times and only two times at home, So it

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that you would lose by thirty. Now it didn't happen,

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not feel good. And crazy thing is, you know this

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last year twenty twenty five. Do you guys remember this

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at Houston? Then they got smoked. They got smoked by

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thirty one before that had happened versus Gonzaga at home,

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that was a tough one, twenty twenty two, before that,

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twenty nineteen at Gonzaga. Most of these are at you know,

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these way away settings. But from two thousand and nine

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bou basketball history, and they were in rebuild mode after

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the Read era, and trying to figure out, okay with

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Steve Cleveland, what are we're doing. There's a lot of drama,

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et cetera. So anyway, thank goodness, it wasn't a thirty

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point loss, but it still felt like one. And I

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think we can all agree. Like I've gotten to the point,

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like I'm very I'm not superstitious, but I'm a bit stitious.

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Burn the black jerseys. They are booty. No more specialty jerseys,

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no more blackouts, no more distractions. I get rid of them.

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I don't want anything to do with these anymore, whether

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it's football or basketball. The curse of the black Jerseys

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is alive. And well, I told you.

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Speaker 2: I didn't like it, Ben, I said I don't like it. Ben,

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Now I told you say, I don't know how I

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Speaker 3: Burn them, yep, get rid of all of them. Anyway.

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Get his thoughts now. Spencer is one of the most

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positive people in Cougar Nation. If you can get Spencer

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to say anything negative about b YU sports or athletics,

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then you know, then you you know it's it's it's

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an anomaly. I'm gonna ask them some tough questions like

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how does he feel about the Cougar basketball team, and

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we'll see what silver linings will come from it. Dave

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bar two, CFB Matrix Stock and BAU Football what have

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It's a conversation we've had over the offseason and even

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during the season. Which group offense, defense, special teams have

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been the best for BYU. How do they compare and

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contrast maybe to their neighbors in the Big twelve and

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up on the Hill. Dave bar two at four or

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five breaking now Big twelve Football, College football, and BAU Football.

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falls at home to UCF weeping wailing nation in your

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teeth is BAU basketball team knows how to you know,

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knows how to make us feel so hopeful and optimistic.

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And then Judo chop is right in the throat afterwards. Okay,

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number nineteen bau felt ninety seven to eighty four. Now,

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on the surface doesn't look too bad, but I think

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that is the largest ties. It's tied for the largest

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margin loss on the season, if I'm not mistaken, right,

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isn't that the largest deficit loss on the season. I

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think it was tied with one other game, Okay it was, Yeah,

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I think it was Texas Tech. The Texas Tech game.

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So you lost to Yukon by two points, Texas Tech

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by thirteen, You of A by three, Kansas by eight,

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Oklahoma State by seven, Houston by eleven, and then Arizona

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Gain by seven. So still the biggest loss on the

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season because it felt like thirty even though it was

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only thirteen. So take it for what it's worth. Okay,

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are there any silver linings to this loss? Gentlemen, Roddy

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do you? Are there any silver linings to this game whatsoever,

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anything that set out to you in a positive in

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a positive way.

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Speaker 2: There are?

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Speaker 4: And look, some people might say this is too harsh, Ben,

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and the season is not over by any means, But

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then I start to think about this, as you know,

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potentially what last six weeks of the season. Of four

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to six weeks out, I'm looking at who and this

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roster is gonna be allowed back, right, And that's what

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I'm looking at, Like these guys are playing to keep

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their scholarship.

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Speaker 2: That's harsh, but that's just the nature of what it is.

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Is Kevin Young gonna blow it up? Is he gonna

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make staff changes?

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Speaker 4: Defensively, we don't know what's gonna go on, personnel changes,

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all of that. Everything, As much as he says personnel's

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on the table, Ben, everybody's job, everybody's spot, everybody's scholarship

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is up for graps. And I'm gonna be honest, and

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I'm looking at guys I kad Em Boop I think

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has earned this spot. I think Tyler Morush showed some

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good stuff last night as well. In Alexi coaches, I

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think silver linings of what can they build on and

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who can they take going into next season? Because Ben,

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you just can't push out everyone. And I'm bringing up

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a good point, and I hope you guys understand what

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I'm saying. You can't just bringing up a bunch of

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new faces. You have to rebuild with what you have.

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You have to bring in the BYU guys that are

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committed already, get a few back maybe and then use

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the portal as well and what you have to build

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a better roster bin. So that's what I'm looking at.

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And the three names that I mentioned, I think those

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guys are right now, I think are the leading candidates

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to be back. We'll see what happens with Dawson Baker

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if he takes that six year. But that's the silver

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linings Bens. I like what I saw from Tyler and Alexi,

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and with the last six weeks, need those guys to

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play well.

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Speaker 3: You wonder how much of this roster is actually gonna

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come back, just because like, I don't know how much

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buy in there is for some of these players at

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BYU really like who wants to lay down roots, who

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wants to be developed, who wants to be coached up?

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many coaches out there at the highest levels college backs

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you can actually coach their players in a hard way,

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an accountably, an accountable way. I don't. I don't know

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how often you can. Bill self is struggling with it

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with Darreon Peterson. He's like, I haven't even coached him yet,

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that's what he said. I haven't coached him yet, Like

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I haven't asked him to do anything. I haven't pressed him,

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I haven't coached him. Which it's like, how often are

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these coaches not able to traditionally coach? That's what Isn't

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that what a coach is. Isn't he like structuring, mentoring,

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setting incentives and accountability Like that's it's in its purest form,

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Like if you're not meeting the standard, then you're benched.

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he tells you you gotta dribble a certain way, you

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gotta shoot a certain way. You're gonna you're gonna get

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your looks in a certain way. You should play defense

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in this certain way. You you gotta play with better effort,

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you gotta play with better execution. That's what coaching is.

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Speaker 5: I'll be so curious to have kids like in high school, like,

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because I remember what high school coaching was like for me,

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and it wasn't fun, it wasn't friendly.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like it.

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Speaker 5: I remember being pissed when I came home from practice,

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But like it made me a better person and I

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enjoyed the tough fire of it all. Are they not

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coaching like that anymore? Like even in high school. I'll

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be so curious when I have kids if they're like,

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oh my gosh, you said so much fun at practice,

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I'm like, you good fun at practice?

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you know, it's interesting, And I'm not I'm not gonna

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be a get off your long guy, a get off

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my long guy and like complain about the new generation.

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But I will say, like, we're we're at Orthopros. We've

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been interviewing and we've posted jobs for a couple of

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different positions as we're expanding in twenty twenty six, and

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it's been interesting to see like half of the candidates

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that come in don't even know what Orthopos is or

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what we do. They don't look up the company before

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they for an interview. They don't even know anything about

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the job description. They they they clicked on the like,

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hey file my resume here, and we looked at the resam.

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Hey it's a good resume. Hey, let's have you come

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in for an interview. They get in the interview, they

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don't know anything about Orthopros, nor do they know what

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job they applied for.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not how you get the job, bas

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that's insane.

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Speaker 3: Got an interview, well, because the resume look good, like

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they're they're whatever they did presented. I'm like, oh, the

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good skill set. You know, it looks like attention to detail.

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You know, it looks like it's it's esthetically praising, it's

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organizing in a good way.

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Speaker 2: There's the GBS kidding, No.

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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't look that way. But but anyway, it's

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just interesting to me. So it's just like you show up,

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You're like, guy, it's like if I get it, I

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get it. But if not, like I don't really care.

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You know. I'm like, that's crazy, man, because the lowest

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common denominator like that, the bar is set so freaking low,

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you know, probably for employers right now too, so you're

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you're looking for fit. And so I think coaches are

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also dealing with this at the collegiate level, and we're

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seeing more of this, uh, and so it's something they

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have to address and you have to I think k

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why is learning. I think he's calling his team out

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from the pulpit, which I don't know how many coaches are.

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Some are some of are going off on dietrages, but like,

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do the kids really care? It's like the kids the

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the candidate shown up, they're like, eh, ye, I don't

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know what does Orthopos do? And they want me to

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tell him about it, like, oh, you didn't look up

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and what stood up to you about the job description?

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I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Uh, it was available as a job.

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Speaker 3: That was cool to me, you know. Anyway, that being said,

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I do think there were some silver linings in this game.

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I liked what I saw from Alexi. He's a shooter.

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He's a shoot shooter shirt like, if you get it,

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if you make it too complicated for Alexi, you know,

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you have him make more decisions outside of shooting than

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it could get a little bit rough. I think he

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makes some bad decisions. But when he's shooting, goodness, gracious,

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he can he can, he can light it up, he can,

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he can hit. So that's my one silver lining in

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all this. Uh, let's get to some of the sound

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as we. Uh we bemoaned the loss versus UCF Kevin.

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What were the issues defensively where everything snowballed?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, I gotta watch the film. I mean,

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we were sleepwalking out there, So I don't I it's

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hard to pinpoint. You know, I didn't expect tot in

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the slightest time. Super disappointed in our guys, U super

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disappointed in myself and our coaches.

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Speaker 8: Just was a knight that was not good all around.

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Speaker 7: So I mean, there was just every breakdown you could

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possibly imagine. But you have to give all the credit

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to Central Florida. They played a great basketball game. They

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were the way hunger your team, and you know, they

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pumped us and they deserve all the credit.

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Speaker 3: They punked us and they deserve all their credit. We'll

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get into like what's going on defensively, you know, maybe

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towards the middle of this segment as we get into

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a few more sound bites. But everyone's wondering, you know,

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what's going on in the defense. Most people are. You

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see people on social media they're blaming Will Void. We

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know from Ronnie that Tim Fannings been calling the defense

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this year, but Will was calling it last year. So

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they made some changes. Why did they make changes last

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year or going into the new season because the defense

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struggled last year? Was it personnel? I go back to

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that question, is it personnel? An effort or is it

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is it scheme and game plan? Last year, you felt

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like at the end of the year they gelled. Yeah, right,

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especially offensively. Defensively, they look good in the NCAA Tournament

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until they they they faced an Alabama team that everyone

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was hitting, and they were in fuego and they and

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we didn't really contest shots as well as we should have,

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and they extended. I mean, they're hitting NBA threes all

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night long, so that that I mean, they put what

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it felt like, they put up almost one hundred and

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twenty points against by It's the most points. It may

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be the most points that BA was given up like

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in the modern era. By the way, in that NCAA

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tournament game, I'll have to look it up. But uh, anyway,

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we're trying to diagnose what's going on here, and you're

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looking at Ky and you can a census frustration. Remember

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I go back to the initial press conferences. Ky expressed

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how excited he was to have jurisdiction over all facets

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of the team and all fastest of the game that

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include defense. Remember him saying that, And I could pull

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up the quote here momentarily, but you bring in your

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guys that you trust, you bring in Will Voit, you

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bring Intim Fanning. Those are your guys, your g league guys,

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you're overseas guys. These are the schemers, these are the architects.

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And defensively they haven't been able to figure it out

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with the personnel that they have now in year two. Now,

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I do think that they have been at times better

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defensively this year than they were last year. I just

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due to athleticism in length, mostly not due to scheme

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or effort. Sometimes they do put forth good effort. Does

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that make sense? I do think they've marginally improved defensively.

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I think they're a better defensive team as a whole,

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and I think the metrics bear that out versus better

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offensive teams, as we mentioned yesterday. But so like, you

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can make an argument Tim's done better than Will, but

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you can also make the argument that's like, well, he's

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got better clay to work with than Will did last year.

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Does that make sense?

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Speaker 5: I also think, Look, you can argue with me, or

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actually I won't argue because I but like, you can

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have the debate as much as you want about whether

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or not last year's defense was how much worse than

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this year?

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Speaker 3: You could have that argument however much you want.

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00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,559
Speaker 5: But you know what, you can't argue about which defense

473
00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:16,039
had more effort, which defense had more want to last

474
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,640
year's defense or this year's defense. Last year, that's it's

475
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,319
not last year. It's not an argument. It's not even close.

476
00:23:23,519 --> 00:23:26,119
They may not have had the talent last year, but

477
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,960
they weren't playing. It wasn't a lack of defense because

478
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,480
they just didn't want to. It's because they didn't have

479
00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:33,240
the talent, they didn't have the speed, maybe not.

480
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,519
Speaker 3: Didn't have the athleticism. Your issue this year is, man,

481
00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:38,359
I just don't want to man.

482
00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 5: I mean, like, I know the scheme is this, and

483
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,759
like it may be a little bit difficult, but like

484
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,079
you know what. UCF's already on the I mean you

485
00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:47,440
can see it. There's a turnover I think in the

486
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,880
first five minutes of the game where UCF's going down.

487
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,559
They're Duncan on the other end, and Bay's point guard

488
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,759
is sitting on the other end of the four. He's

489
00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:00,359
not chasing down, he's not moving, he's not even running

490
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,279
to the end of the floor for once they score

491
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,160
that he can bring the ball back the other way.

492
00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:05,599
Speaker 3: He just hanging out down there.

493
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that to me is emblematic of it's not

494
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,119
that you can't, it's that you don't want to.

495
00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get back to k Why here we're players

496
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,160
feeling a little bit too happy after the win over

497
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,759
Iowa State.

498
00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 7: Maybe you know, you don't know, you know, it's that

499
00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:26,359
I'm a why guy, Like, like, I don't like why,

500
00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:27,680
like why did that happen?

501
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 8: Right?

502
00:24:28,039 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 7: And so I don't have a lot of answers for

503
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,720
that other than, like I said, you give Central Floor credit.

504
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,640
They played a good basketball game. Our approach and why

505
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,640
we were so you know, asleep at the wheel, you know,

506
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,680
I don't know. That's my job to figure that out,

507
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,720
and you know we will before our next game.

508
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,279
Speaker 3: I'm a why guy? Why did they get complacent? Why

509
00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:55,000
didn't they put forth good effort? Why were they lazy?

510
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,720
Why were they? Uh just why was the effort lacking?

511
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,720
What's our diagnosis? Right? I mean the low hanging fruit

512
00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:07,960
is that they they're coming off a big win, They're like, oh,

513
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,160
we are good. We are one of the best teams

514
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,319
in college basketball. We are you know, we can show

515
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,519
up and win. How many times the season have they

516
00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:20,759
felt like they could show up and just win. We've

517
00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:22,440
seen it time and time again where they got by

518
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:24,799
by the skin of their teeth. They're more talented than Colorado,

519
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,519
They're more talented than a lot of these teams that

520
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:30,599
they let play with them. They got down early, they

521
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,160
come back. Maybe that's an issue. They get down, they've

522
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,440
gotten down early, and they've always come back and they've

523
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,720
made it respectable. So they're like, yeah, like, we don't

524
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,559
have to put forth the best effort and we can

525
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:43,799
still be competitive in games. And when we actually do

526
00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:45,920
put forth a great effort, then we can win them.

527
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,640
But they did not respect their opponent whatsoever. You can

528
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,200
tell the end of that game.

529
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 5: By the way, it was one o'clock on the UCF

530
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,039
body clock.

531
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,319
Speaker 3: It was one o'clock in the morning. You had the

532
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,000
advantage if obviously you're playing at home.

533
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,759
Speaker 5: But on top of that, like you have East Coast guys,

534
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,680
it is one o'clock in the morning by the time

535
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,440
the game is over, and somehow they had more effort

536
00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:09,759
than you.

537
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: How how does that happen? Yeah, it's a it's a

538
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,119
it's a important question, there's no doubt about it. What

539
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,640
did you see defensively from your team allowing UCFS eleven

540
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,359
three pointers in the first half.

541
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,319
Speaker 8: There was none.

542
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 7: You know, I think there was probably two of them

543
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,799
that I think I can tested at a rate that

544
00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:33,920
I would have been pleased with. And we didn't whether

545
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,039
we didn't respect their shooters of what, I don't know.

546
00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:38,519
I mean we you know, I'm looking at things that

547
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:40,240
we did as a staff and things like that, but

548
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:42,519
we didn't approach this game with any less bigger.

549
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 8: Than we have any other game this year. And so.

550
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 7: You know, we'll have to figure that out with the

551
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,960
players in a pretty candid, you know, film session tomorrow.

552
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,039
Speaker 8: But again, you know, shot making.

553
00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:57,839
Speaker 7: Is is uh is what makes the game, you know,

554
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,759
challenging because it's hard, hard, it's hard to overlook it,

555
00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:03,799
right when you're not making shots and they feel like

556
00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:04,720
they're making everything.

557
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 8: But you got to make a mess, right, That's why.

558
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 7: That's why their players deserve credit for stepping up in

559
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,640
knocking shots down.

560
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, So how do you read into that? Is he

561
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:17,640
more disappointed in his defense or is he more disappointed

562
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,279
that'd be way you didn't make shots in the first half,

563
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:23,039
you know what I mean, Like I couldn't tell there.

564
00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:25,319
I was trying to read between the lines because he's like, well,

565
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,359
you know how, what's his lens? What does he see?

566
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:33,359
Obviously he's disappointing in his defense, it was non existent,

567
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,519
and he's like, I was only I was only okay

568
00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:41,119
with maybe two of the contested looks that they got.

569
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,559
Thank goodness, he got at least two. But it sounds

570
00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:48,119
like he was like, this is a shot making game.

571
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,319
He's an offensive minded coach. And if he's an offensive

572
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:56,160
minded coach, who's balancing the defensive effort, who's balancing the

573
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,720
defensive game? Who did you bring in as your defensive

574
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,880
guy initially? Who are the defense as specialists? Heard? Yeah,

575
00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:07,599
from a player's standpoint, right, suppose we can ard right,

576
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,880
that's why you brought him in. And then from a

577
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,920
coaching staff standpoint, that has to set the tone and

578
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,640
set hopefully the culture up and and and look, it's

579
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,359
a it's a head coaching duty as well. But you

580
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,480
lean into what I found in life. In work, you

581
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:27,039
tend to gravitate towards either things you're good at or

582
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:31,240
you're passionate about. Right, So like, what is Ky truly

583
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,960
good at and passion about? He is an elite offensive

584
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,680
mind to coach, so he probably tends to lean into

585
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,000
that a little bit more so you need someone to

586
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:41,440
bounce balance that is Will Void balancing him? Is Tim

587
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,680
Fanning bouncing him? Are they balancing it enough so that

588
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,920
the team takes pride in it? I don't know. It

589
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,480
doesn't look like it. It doesn't look like it whatsoever.

590
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 5: So UCF they were nine for their first eleven shots,

591
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,440
like they only miss they only missed two, nine for eleven.

592
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: UCF had two.

593
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: Or three separate times in the game where they made

594
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,920
five straight shots. BYU had two separate times in the

595
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,119
game where they missed six straight. I mean, it was

596
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,920
as hot and cold as it could possibly be. And

597
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,359
look when you see other teams make shots and then

598
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,000
you see yourself miss, like that makes your lows low

599
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:32,519
and their highers their highs higher. I do think that

600
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,359
I don't know how you explain this, I guess is

601
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,599
what my brain is wanting to say. Like we make

602
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,599
this joke every game where it's like, man, it feels

603
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,400
like somebody has a career day every time they play YU.

604
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,119
The whole team had a career day. The first five

605
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,480
minutes to the first half. Again, they were nine for eleven,

606
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:53,200
ten for thirteen. I mean, they went on a run

607
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,920
where they missed four in a row and they were

608
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,440
still eleven of eighteen, like they didn't miss And it's

609
00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:01,279
just because I don't know if it's magic.

610
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:02,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's mentality. I don't know what

611
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:04,880
it is, but everyone seems to have a career day.

612
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,519
You know what I do if I don't want to.

613
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:09,119
I mean, I'm a defensive guy. I've always been a

614
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,960
defensive guy. And when I came out of the womb,

615
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:14,160
I was playing defense. Okay, just so everybody knows, always

616
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,759
the best defender, always guarding the best offensive player in football,

617
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,480
in basketball, in soccer. If I had played lacrosse, I

618
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:25,119
know I'll probably have been the best defender. Okay. So

619
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:29,960
like you know, taking like like the mindset when someone's

620
00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:33,000
going off against me, just so you know, like and

621
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,759
I can't really do anything about it. You know what

622
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:39,559
I do. I foul the shiz out of them. I

623
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:43,759
foul them so hard, not flagrant, not flagrant, but I

624
00:30:44,119 --> 00:30:49,319
foul them so damn hard that they're like that hurts, like,

625
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,119
and I'm getting shots at them physically when they're off

626
00:30:54,799 --> 00:31:00,279
off ball. I am like I'm trying everything to make

627
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:05,240
them feel uncomfortable. Guys like I Like, that's my mindset.

628
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:10,079
I'm like, look, this guy's good. I when when in basketball,

629
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,079
I'm wanting them to like I'm sticking out my knees

630
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,240
and I'm when they're getting by and I'm like trying

631
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,079
to give them a dead leg. Does that make sense?

632
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,559
Like everyone hated the criddle knees? Man, those things are

633
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:26,960
coming at you, bony processes, my elbows, you know whatever.

634
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:29,559
It is like I'm making you feel uncomfortable, so like

635
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,039
you have to do something different and so like that's something.

636
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:36,559
It's like I'm not saying like they have to employ it.

637
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,319
I'm just saying this isn't this is an idea, like

638
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,119
just foul someone at least if they're going off. Like

639
00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:45,599
at what point did you know UCF was going off?

640
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:49,839
Probably after about three shots. Yeah, I'm fouling someone. I'm

641
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,559
fouling them hard. I'm doing something to change the vibe,

642
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,960
change the trajectory, doing something to change the energy. Period.

643
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:04,759
That's my mindset as a defender since I played sports

644
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:06,839
growing up. Now you can agree or disagree with me.

645
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:10,240
That's how I did it, and you know what, you know,

646
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:12,799
it's crazy. It worked it worked the hell of a

647
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:17,599
lot more then maybe I I initially expected it to work,

648
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:20,599
but it was like a survival technique. I'm like, this

649
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,759
guy will not because remember, I'm going against the best player.

650
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:26,519
I'm going against the best wide receiver on going against

651
00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:28,839
the best guard. I'm going against the guy that's gonna

652
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:32,119
get buckets, that's gonna score, and it's gonna get looks

653
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,319
all day. So I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no

654
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,759
no no. Because my name says Kritle on the back

655
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:40,599
and the number, like, I don't want to be remembered

656
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,640
as the guy that that that that allowed this guy

657
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,359
to go off for a career high. I would not

658
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:49,559
let that happen. No way, no way, hose okay, not

659
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,240
gonna happen. So yeah, oh sorry, yeah we sorry. Vic.

660
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:57,079
I for some reason, you're not You're not hot right now,

661
00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:58,920
You're good, you know, I love I love Vic's going

662
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,720
off right there anyway, So let's go to break. I

663
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:05,480
just want to see I think most people just want

664
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:08,000
to see effort. Like I think if someone would have

665
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:14,000
like been frustrated, like say a J's you know, just

666
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,759
just ticked off and he to the heart flat foul

667
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:19,200
on one of their whoever's going off at the time,

668
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,400
whoever he's garden. At least there's a visible, tangible evidence

669
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,160
that you care. Yeah, don't know what I mean that

670
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,960
you care. And then fans don't get to the point

671
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,400
where they want to boo you like that's that's crazy.

672
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,160
It's crazy. I cannot believe that happened. It happened because

673
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,400
there was it was visible that they didn't care.

674
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:39,799
Speaker 2: He can I can I jump in here.

675
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:42,839
Speaker 4: Look, I was at the game and I didn't put

676
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:45,200
this out because I saw a heartbreaking this. I'm like,

677
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,000
this is a bad moment. Fans were leaving in the

678
00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:51,960
second half with ten minutes left, people were dipping out

679
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,359
like it was. It was that was heartbreaking to watch

680
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,480
Bau's fan base, Like while they're taking off, like not

681
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:00,519
saying that they're gonna win the game, but like they

682
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,960
might be able to make it to eight and see

683
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,359
if you see if can push it back to double

684
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:06,440
like taking off, gone, going to get snacks like out.

685
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:08,679
I'm like the Marry Out Center been when it got

686
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,760
the five minutes left, student section was a lot of

687
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,599
it was gone. People at the top like Laura, but

688
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:16,840
like it was empty, and I said Wow, this is

689
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,559
this is the biggest embarrassment of this team by far

690
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:20,079
this year.

691
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,679
Speaker 9: And just following up on hammer Time here, the first

692
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:27,920
six minutes they were eighty one percent from uh phil

693
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,280
gold range and then eighty three percent from three point rank.

694
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: Crazy, man, I'm with you being out of knock somebody

695
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:34,719
on their butt and.

696
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: I'm doing something. I'm hammertime in them. You know I'm

697
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,920
hammer time in them. You know you know those big

698
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,880
old legs of hammer times, right, you know that squatted

699
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,960
five hundred pounds in high school? Just showing up. You

700
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:51,760
want to trial me, I'll squat, You'll throw throw throw

701
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,480
fift three fifteen on there, I'll wrap it out twenty times.

702
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:58,440
I'm gonna use those big, big gurthy power play. You know.

703
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,760
I'm gonna judo chop you. I'm gonna roundhouse kick you

704
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,880
in the face, whatever it takes to not make myself

705
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,199
look like a complete bozo on the floor. Let's go

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get back to the sound. This BLA basketball team is bizarre.

743
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:01,320
The hives, the lows, the ups and down, the Jacquelin

744
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,400
hide what you know. We talked a little bit about

745
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,480
the silver linings. There was a few of them, I guess, uh,

746
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,679
but k wide very disappointed in the effort and the execution,

747
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:17,000
both offensively and especially defensively. Coach. The fans started doing

748
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:18,800
I don't know how often, how how many times b

749
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,559
YU fans at the Marriott Center have booed like I

750
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:28,679
feel like football fans. They don't boo they're gonna boo

751
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,320
every once in a while. They booed Bronco, They've booed Kialani,

752
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,280
They've booed a lot of guys over the years. They

753
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,280
booed players. Uh, they boo basketball. I mean I want to.

754
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,119
I feel like they don't boo as often a basketball fan.

755
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,639
There's a different demographic. By the way, basketball fans are

756
00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:50,280
different than football fans. But after about booing the fans

757
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:50,920
booing the.

758
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Speaker 2: Team, I'm agreeing with you. They don't do it.

759
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:57,199
Speaker 3: They normally just they about that life. So coach, the

760
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,480
fans started doing what is your response? What was response

761
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:00,840
to that?

762
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you hope it energizes the guys, you know,

763
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,280
hope there's a level of embarrassment and just unacceptable, you know.

764
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,320
So I wasn't upset with the fans. They they you know,

765
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,960
our fans are incredible, you know, and so they deserve

766
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,719
to see a product that is has a lot more

767
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,440
effort than what our guys showed tonight.

768
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,599
Speaker 8: And so hopefully that never happens again.

769
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: Hopefully that never happens again. The fans deserve better than that.

770
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,199
The fans are incredible, The fans are the best. Uh,

771
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,719
no problem with the booze Kevin Young.

772
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,519
Speaker 5: I think if we had to rank coaches basketball, football, professional,

773
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,679
I don't even care if we had to rank coaches

774
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,639
based on how good they are in the post game,

775
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:52,760
win or loss, Kevin Young's gotta be up there, like again,

776
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,000
this is embarrassing, This is horrible, and there's no part

777
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,280
of Kevin Young because Mick Cronin. You know what McK

778
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,800
cronin would have said to that question, You think I

779
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,880
give a rats a about what the fans think.

780
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 3: That's a big Coronin would have said.

781
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 5: Kevin Young's like, no, man, like, they deserve a better

782
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,599
product on the four than what we showed them. This

783
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:11,559
is embarrassing. I hope my team wakes up from seeing this.

784
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,519
Kevin Young ten out of ten on the.

785
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 3: Mic per always yeah he's he does great work in

786
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,920
the post game. And I think bou fans though, like

787
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,320
when they see the effort, they're gonna they're going to

788
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:24,159
the lack of effort. Even though Ky is saying the good,

789
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,760
the right things, They're saying, well, what are you saying

790
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,079
to the team, How are you motivating the team? What's

791
00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:32,159
going on with the team. Why is it that they're

792
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:35,519
not buying in to you coach or your coaching staff.

793
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,679
It'll it still falls on the shoulders of It's not

794
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:43,840
like it's different than football. I feel like probably the

795
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,400
head coach gets more credit than he deserves in basketball,

796
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:49,719
and he probably gets more hate than he deserves because

797
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:54,599
in football, we tend to cherry pick special teams offense,

798
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,079
defense because you have offensive coordinator, defense coordinator. It's it's entitle.

799
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:03,760
With basketball, it's not always in title. Yeah, like I'm

800
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,480
the offensive coordinator, I'm the defensive coordinator. So you tend

801
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:11,800
as a head coach to take in that criticism. Man,

802
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,480
he's getting criticized right now, Yeah he is.

803
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 5: Do you feel like because I haven't been as online,

804
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:23,000
I know for me, I'm more upset with the players

805
00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:25,159
than I am with Kevin Young. In fact, like I'd

806
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,000
be willing to defend Kevin Young because I feel as

807
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,440
though this is a lot of.

808
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 3: This is not on him. I was telling Ron this morning,

809
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:33,880
and I think I said this yesterday.

810
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:36,639
Speaker 5: You lost your two tent poles of the guy who

811
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:40,519
carried your culture in Dawson Baker and Richie Saunders. So

812
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,880
the last guy who's carrying your culture is a J.

813
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,559
Deamansa and as great as he is, he's a freshman

814
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,880
and he hasn't been here for as long. He doesn't

815
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have the upper classman gravitas that comes with it. And

816
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:54,639
so I feel like a lot of this, not all

817
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:57,119
of it, Some of it is on Kevin Young, pie Chartie, accountability,

818
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:59,559
all that stuff. I don't feel like as much of

819
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:02,800
it as should be is on Kevin hung But I

820
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,920
don't know where fans are at today. I feel like

821
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,679
I've heard a little bit from fans they're not happy

822
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with Kevin Young, But I don't know that Patriard accountability wise,

823
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,360
I don't know Kevin Wyong is the number one guy

824
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,039
to blame here.

825
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think remember that we're still in this

826
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:24,440
transition of professionalism in college athletics where fans, Remember, fans

827
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:30,320
are more involved in recruiting, engagement, social media. They're more

828
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,760
involved now from a hype standpoint, Does that make sense?

829
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,599
Like they can be more interactive. They're buying these players,

830
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,639
and it has been a bit of a hiss and

831
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:43,239
a byword, it's been a little bit. You're not supposed

832
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,840
to critique or criticize the the student athletes, because then

833
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,039
that's not a good look. These are just kids. They

834
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:53,760
just they're babies. They just came out of the womb,

835
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,639
you know, and they're just being criticized, these perfect humans

836
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,199
that are not getting played paid million. Well, now, so

837
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,360
that shift, right, So you're supposed to have class. But

838
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:07,760
at the same time you're like, well, they're not putting

839
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,559
forth the effort that. I don't think bau fans would.

840
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:16,760
I don't I believe that bau fans will critique effort

841
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:22,119
more than execution. Yeah, they will critique effort. What they

842
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:29,079
expect culturally, like their forefathers that came across the planes

843
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:33,800
from the east to the west and settled this fine land,

844
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:45,239
a high desert that lacks moisture, hardened, gritty, overachieving, with

845
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,960
a sense of I would deem you know, supurity combined

846
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,360
with infiority and impulse control. They expect you to put

847
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,639
forth great effort and thrust in your sickle, put your

848
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,039
shoulder to the wheel, and pretty gosh dang freaking push along.

849
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,880
If you don't execute, it's okay, man, get up and

850
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,320
do it again. That's what they expect. They will. They

851
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,119
will critique effort all day over execution execuse, Like, hey,

852
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:13,800
they're not executing. We got to figure this out. But

853
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,760
as it potases the players, they expect great effort. They

854
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,360
expect great effort when they're paying the bills, y'all.

855
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 9: That's what good defense comes from.

856
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: Hundred percent. So, and I'm right there with it, Like, so,

857
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:30,320
what you didn't execute? I better see some effort. I

858
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,960
better see you foul somebody if you can't guard somebody,

859
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:38,000
you know what I mean? Let's get it back into it.

860
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:40,400
What was the message to the guys in the locker

861
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,880
room following that heartbreaking loss?

862
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:52,639
Speaker 7: See at one o'clock tomorrow for film.

863
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:53,159
Speaker 3: See at one o'clock? What did you say?

864
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:55,519
Speaker 2: That was a bad question? I admit that I can.

865
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,599
Speaker 5: I don't think that's actually I don't know if I

866
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:01,679
think that's a bad question. And the only reason I

867
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,480
say that is because I'd want to know.

868
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:06,039
Speaker 3: I think what was the mess?

869
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 5: The team postcame right like, like you want to know

870
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,719
what the accountability is? Did you go in there and

871
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,599
you're just like, hey, guys, I know you gave it

872
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:14,800
a good effort. Or did you go in there and

873
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,039
let him know that you're disappointed? How did you leave

874
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:20,039
it with him? So? I mean I would I would

875
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:23,000
have been curious to know what Kevin Young said. And

876
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:26,559
what's funny is I think Spencer did a separate interview

877
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:29,280
with him for boy Sports Nation and he asked the

878
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,000
same question and Kevin Young's response was see you tomorrow

879
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:33,360
at one.

880
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:37,519
Speaker 3: So I and I think Agent was also asked that question.

881
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,519
Speaker 5: I don't I really don't think like I don't think

882
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:44,079
Kevin Young is summarizing saying, hey, I said this, that

883
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:46,239
and the other thing. But like, primarily what I was

884
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,639
saying was see one. I wonder if really all he

885
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,199
said was instead of tossing a chair, instead of getting pissed.

886
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,840
I really think the only words he said when he

887
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,119
got in the locker room were see you tomorrow. And

888
00:44:57,519 --> 00:44:59,280
my guess is he probably walked out after that.

889
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 4: It makes me feel better because I asked that question

890
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,440
because I'm with you, like being the hard hitting question.

891
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,480
I have to ask the accountabilly, like, so, what did

892
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:07,199
you say after that bad performance?

893
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: Right?

894
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,599
Speaker 2: Like so, and probably kay.

895
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 4: Kevin Young because he's even killed, uh you know, probably

896
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,119
said what Brett said. And he just seems like after

897
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,440
coaching an NBA and maybe I'm wrong, it seems like

898
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:21,559
he's gonna rip you on tape. He's not gonna rip

899
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:23,239
you to your face. I think he wants to go

900
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,440
back and watch. That's just a vibe I got from it.

901
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: Que way more powerful, like if you I mean, yeah,

902
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,960
if you have all the cut ups, like that'd be

903
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:32,320
very powerful. Like in the like you get right into

904
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:37,239
the locker room, like look at this fecal matter? What

905
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,880
is this effort? Rob right? Do you even want to

906
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,639
be here? Do you want to go back to Delaware?

907
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:46,320
Do you want to go back to Baylor? Do you

908
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,480
not care about playing basketball? Do you want to be

909
00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:53,280
an NBA player? Because you ain't. You're a midget. Actually

910
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,000
you're very short. You know, you're not a traditional NBA

911
00:45:57,079 --> 00:46:00,239
point guard. They're going away from you. So you know

912
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,920
what you have to do. You have to show better

913
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,519
effort like otherwise, like these are frank and forthright conversations.

914
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:11,599
You could you do that one hundred percent? Do you

915
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:14,039
want to do that? I don't know, Like, I don't

916
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:16,400
know what's gonna get these guys juice jazz. Maybe it's

917
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,000
better to have those conversations at one o'clock the following day,

918
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:22,039
once emotions have died down.

919
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, And I also think Kevin Young has moved

920
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,400
like he's already called them out postgame again. We referenced

921
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,519
it a bunch where he's like, you guys are being

922
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:35,360
too nice to them. I think he's this is like

923
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,039
a phase now, right Like at first.

924
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,599
Speaker 3: When my parents would yell at me because they did

925
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:40,440
something stupid, like.

926
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 5: It was scolding. My dad would yell at me, this

927
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,719
is what you did wrong. I'd get the two hour lecture,

928
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,480
all those kinds of things. It was way too long.

929
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:49,400
I don't know why my dad lectured me for that long.

930
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:50,960
At one point, I just got to the point where

931
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,719
I learned all the answers I had to give to

932
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,000
get to the end the fastest separate lecture, first eparate day.

933
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,559
I think now what we're seeing is Kevin Young's like,

934
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,440
I'm not angry with you anymore.

935
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 3: I'm just disappointed.

936
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 5: And it's like I don't even have to say anything

937
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,679
to you for you to know that I'm upset. And

938
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,880
it's like it's almost more on you to know that

939
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,440
I'm upset with you than it is for me.

940
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: To tell you that. Some kids react well to the

941
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,840
I'm not angry, I'm disappointed, and some don't. No, some

942
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,679
kids don't like my if my mom or Dad said like,

943
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,519
I'm disappointing it like it's young. As a young man,

944
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:30,800
I was like, okay, right, when you're a teenager, you're

945
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,880
like yeah, But as I got older, I'm disappointed. If

946
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,639
I'm just funny like all right, but.

947
00:47:35,639 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 9: Every player knows going to watch tape the next day

948
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:41,239
if he's gonna get a butt chewing or not.

949
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 3: You know, you always know, no doubt, Richie Saunders has

950
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,599
led you guys in three pointers all season. It's just

951
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,199
the type of game not having him here that it

952
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,079
just impacted it a little bit more.

953
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,679
Speaker 8: I don't know if i'd say to the three point.

954
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 7: Uh part of it, but yeah.

955
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:03,119
Speaker 8: I mean his intensity you miss.

956
00:48:03,159 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 7: I mean he's a guy that wakes up ready to

957
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,920
you know, just get after it every day in life.

958
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,960
And so we miss his intensity for sure. And so

959
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:12,719
that's where guys like uh, you know really that's where Robin.

960
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:15,039
Speaker 8: A have to grow. You know, they're they don't have

961
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:18,199
it in them naturally to be you know, hair on

962
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,679
fire type guys. But it's you know, I think.

963
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 7: When you're when you're not naturally that way, you're not

964
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:26,039
naturally a vocal leader. I think you have to learn

965
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:28,320
how to lead sometimes, and I think that's a challenge

966
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,639
that they're guys. But it's you know, I think when

967
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:34,239
you're when you're not naturally that way, you're not naturally

968
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:34,960
a vocal leader.

969
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 8: I think you have to learn how to lead sometimes.

970
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 7: And I think that's a challenge that they're going through

971
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,039
right now, and it's a growth process for for both

972
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:44,119
of them. I think I think Aj has it in

973
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:45,400
him a little bit more naturally.

974
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 8: Rob's got to kind of get.

975
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:49,039
Speaker 7: Out of his comfort zone a little bit more, because

976
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:51,400
that's that's where really where we miss Ritchie more than

977
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,159
more than anything.

978
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 3: So it kind of cut out there for a second,

979
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,280
but he's do you say they don't have they they're

980
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,840
not naturally it was what he was reiterating the second time,

981
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:03,280
natural energy. Yeah, but I didn't hear the first Well.

982
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 5: He reiterated it there at the end where he was like,

983
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,360
that's just really that's.

984
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 7: You know there, they don't have it in them naturally

985
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,000
to be you know, hair on fire type guys.

986
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 3: Okay, so hair on fire guys, they're not coming out

987
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:23,199
with high energy, high intensity hair on fire guys. That's

988
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:26,159
where they need to develop, that's where they need to grow. No,

989
00:49:26,519 --> 00:49:30,159
that's not what their natural tendency their personality, and you

990
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:32,679
see it even like in their like, you know, their

991
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:35,960
postgame comments, like they're pretty pretty late back. I think

992
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,119
A J is probably more accountability based than Rob though,

993
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,480
would you agree with that? I think everybody kind of

994
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:47,119
grews with that. I think it's interesting that Rob scored

995
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:49,320
twenty and we did. He wasn't the one we talked

996
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,679
to in the media. Yeah, yeah, begs the question, right,

997
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,199
what's going on? What's going on? What were some of

998
00:49:57,199 --> 00:50:00,519
the silver linings? Was it? Tyler Morass and Alexi Costa? Okay? Why?

999
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 8: Yeah? Just seeing the ball go in, you know, seeing

1000
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:04,639
I think, you.

1001
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 7: Know, Alex, he's a tough kid. I thought he stuck

1002
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,599
his nose in there, you know, so did Tyler. And

1003
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:13,639
you know, we're gonna need those guys to make shots

1004
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:16,239
and provide spacing, which they did. You know, we went obviously,

1005
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,920
we went small, and that's how we were able to

1006
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,840
sort of claw back into it. So they allow us

1007
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,679
to play a little bit differently. And you know, there's

1008
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,320
there's no substitute seeing the ball going in the basket, Mitchell,

1009
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,320
We'll get your question in.

1010
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 3: No substitute, hopefully, Tyler and Alection can find a role here.

1011
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:39,559
I've got a few weeks left before big games occur

1012
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:42,800
and really big games occur. How much trust do we

1013
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,760
have in Tyler and Alecxi right now?

1014
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 5: I trust their effort, and I wish that that didn't

1015
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,639
have to mean as much as it does right now.

1016
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,639
I wish I could say, yeah, well, we got the

1017
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:57,679
most talented guys on the floor, so we're just gonna

1018
00:50:57,679 --> 00:50:59,840
go out and win ball games. Yeah, but you know what,

1019
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,280
I will take Tyler and Alexi's effort and they're want

1020
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,000
to over some other guys who may have more talent.

1021
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ronnie, how much do you trust Tyler or us

1022
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:11,599
Alexi Costick?

1023
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:12,079
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1024
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 4: I was one to ask Kevin on this question because

1025
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,400
remember he said he's a Silver Linings guy, right. I

1026
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:21,760
trust Alexi, I think more than Tyler. Chris and Kozlowski,

1027
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,280
who does a great job, had said he just came out,

1028
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,039
you know, and he just played with a great energy,

1029
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:30,719
and he was fierce, he was fearless. And Alexi, you

1030
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,719
saw something last night that you can build off of

1031
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,880
shooters been when do you normally see them break loose?

1032
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,480
You can talk about at home, you can talk about

1033
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,880
on the road. It's in what neutral site games, right,

1034
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,679
it's shooters, Jim. It's stuff like that. You can build momentum.

1035
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,119
You saw Trevin Nell do it last year. And now

1036
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:48,960
I'm not comparing Alexi to Trevin. I want people to

1037
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,159
relax a little bit. But you know, that's the type

1038
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,719
I think the shooters for bo. You can't get hot

1039
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,119
in the Big twelve tournament and in the NCAA tournament

1040
00:51:57,119 --> 00:51:58,679
because it's an open gym. Now they're gonna have to

1041
00:51:58,679 --> 00:52:01,119
go prove it, right, But I trust obviously, I think

1042
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,480
Alexi a little bit more.

1043
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: And Tyler and Alexi we trust. We're gonna need to

1044
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,440
trust him. There's not much left on him to have

1045
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,480
a choice. You don't have no choice. What was UCF

1046
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:16,960
doing to not only limit AJ from being efficient, but

1047
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,880
the volume of shots as well.

1048
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:22,199
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, they did a good job like most teams

1049
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:24,239
where they just crowded. You know, I thought, I thought,

1050
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,639
I thought Aj he has not been good this year.

1051
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,440
I mean he's been incredible across the board, right, I

1052
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,920
think the times where he gets himself in trouble, where he's.

1053
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 8: Trying too hard to get.

1054
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 7: Fouled, I thought that kind of put him in a

1055
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,440
space of frustration tonight, and I thought he started forcing

1056
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,239
the issue for as good as he was against Iowa

1057
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,320
State with making the extra pass and getting guys shots.

1058
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 8: I thought tonight it was just wasn't there.

1059
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 7: And so, you know, from a scheme standpoint, you know,

1060
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,280
to your question about Richie, you know, I got to

1061
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,360
make sure that I'm doing everything that I can to

1062
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,519
put Aj in the spots that he can get to.

1063
00:52:57,159 --> 00:52:58,599
Speaker 8: And you know that that's going to.

1064
00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:03,159
Speaker 7: Continue to have some examination by myself and my staff.

1065
00:53:03,519 --> 00:53:06,760
You know, teams, they were loading up on him quite heavily.

1066
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,480
Maybe there were some things we could have done better

1067
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:10,880
to get him off to a better start, but you know,

1068
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,119
at the same time, you know, guys have to figure

1069
00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:16,719
it out on their own, you know, and you can't

1070
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,280
let a game get away from you like that and.

1071
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 8: Then try to claw back. So we got a lot

1072
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:22,559
of learning to do.

1073
00:53:26,039 --> 00:53:29,599
Speaker 3: We've talked about it. The one of the critiques that

1074
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:33,159
we've given a j is, you know, you look for

1075
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,840
fouls too often. And look, he may have gotten those

1076
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,559
calls maybe a non conference, but the Big twelve, the

1077
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:40,639
way that the rest are called, they're not they're not

1078
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,880
always willing to give that call through contact. It just

1079
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:49,239
doesn't happen consistently, and so you can't bank on that,

1080
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,440
And so little constructive criticism from k why there? But

1081
00:53:53,519 --> 00:53:55,679
it's his job. He took some accountabilities to my job

1082
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,440
to get him looks. It's my job to get him looks.

1083
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,679
It's our staff at the job to get him right looks.

1084
00:54:01,159 --> 00:54:02,880
But guys also have to figure it out. There's a

1085
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,480
little OREO do you feel that?

1086
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 5: Isn't it weird that he said that in public? Just

1087
00:54:10,639 --> 00:54:13,760
and the only reason I think that is because my

1088
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,400
guess is that's first something that you say in private,

1089
00:54:17,559 --> 00:54:18,199
and maybe.

1090
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:21,559
Speaker 3: He has because I don't. Tevin Young's obviously not. I

1091
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:25,079
bet you knowing K why, I bet you said it

1092
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:27,760
two or three times, that's why. And now that he

1093
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,039
now you said it two or three times and it's

1094
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:34,199
hit home and it's once they agree with you, Yeah, okay,

1095
00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:36,079
I need to stop looking for those. Then you can

1096
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:38,559
take it to the public. Does that make sense? And

1097
00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:42,760
a relational element here, like they've agreed that they need

1098
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,360
to probably come out with their hair on fire. Yeah,

1099
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,840
I need to be better in that and and they've

1100
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,079
addressed it now probably three times in the season and

1101
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:54,440
probably Rob and AJ have agreed to it. AJ said, Yeah,

1102
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,039
I probably looked for contacted fouls and I'm not getting them,

1103
00:54:58,039 --> 00:55:00,159
and I throw my arms up. You're not gonna at

1104
00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:03,320
those calls. Stop looking for him, and let's just find

1105
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,880
a better way to get buckets. Yeah.

1106
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:13,599
Speaker 5: I also think the further of a hit you take

1107
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:17,159
emotionally and the more your walls come down, the more

1108
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:20,000
you're willing to open up about and say, at least

1109
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,840
with Kevin young And again, it's not like he it

1110
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,119
was like a game breaking comment or anything. But I

1111
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,360
wonder if this is four games ago, if that's something

1112
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,920
Kevin young said, because again, one of the first things

1113
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,800
we heard him say to start off this presser was

1114
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,199
I don't know, I don't know. So I wonder if

1115
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,079
that's another reason where because he's just like he's no

1116
00:55:39,159 --> 00:55:42,119
longer thinking what do I say to the media, He's

1117
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:44,440
just openly thinking and speaking.

1118
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,199
Speaker 3: What do you got Ronnie?

1119
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1120
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,599
Speaker 4: You both are right, And here's why Kevin Younger said this.

1121
00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:51,679
How many times been you say two or three data points?

1122
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,400
Kevin Younger said four or five times this year in

1123
00:55:55,639 --> 00:55:59,239
postgame pressures that Age is a smart player.

1124
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 2: You only have to tell them months or twice.

1125
00:56:01,079 --> 00:56:04,599
Speaker 4: Well, Kevin, if I'm going to take that logic, I'm

1126
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:07,360
pretty sure, like you said, Ben and brettas said, they've

1127
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,440
had that discussion in private. They probably even had that

1128
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,960
discussion on the court and we haven't seen. So at

1129
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,159
this point, that's accountability on AJ and AJ didn't.

1130
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:16,639
Speaker 3: He did.

1131
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,079
Speaker 4: We'll get to the sound, but AJ did take accountability

1132
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:20,320
to it. He says to the Big twelve, I gotta

1133
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,559
fight through contact. And I don't know what it is, Ben,

1134
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:24,800
but maybe it goes back to the question before about

1135
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,039
Rob and AJ. It takes a lot of them like

1136
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:30,199
get riled up and come with energy, and some guys

1137
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,840
need that. But Ben is very simple and look, you

1138
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,480
have to coach every play different. But Ben, and you

1139
00:56:34,519 --> 00:56:37,679
know this as my coach, if you came and yelled

1140
00:56:37,679 --> 00:56:41,199
in my face and said that's you know whatever and

1141
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,239
got me fired up, I'm angry and I'm mad and

1142
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,960
I'm gonna go put my shoulder in somebody's chest and

1143
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:47,679
dunk on them.

1144
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: And AJ he has that ability.

1145
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,079
Speaker 4: So I'm just like, do you not if you're not

1146
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:54,800
getting the calls, when do you hit your turn up motor?

1147
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,679
Like well, I'm just gonna bully you and I'm gonna

1148
00:56:56,679 --> 00:56:59,639
put this ball. Now, when is that mode clicking his brain?

1149
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:02,760
Because he's trying to foul bait in Colorado's we played

1150
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,639
a Taboyle sound. People aren't gonna jump, You're not gonna

1151
00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:07,440
get the it's not an NBA call. They're gonna stand

1152
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,440
flat footed, put their hand up, and you're not gonna

1153
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:10,679
be a to swing your arm into them and get

1154
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,440
to the free throw line like Kevin Durant.

1155
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: So he's got to stop that because.

1156
00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:17,039
Speaker 4: If he's a smart player, Ben and if you only

1157
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:18,920
have to tell him once and I'm reading between the

1158
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,000
lines and obviously ain't clicking.

1159
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: No, it is not. And look I do think, I

1160
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,599
mean AJ's got dog in him. I just think that

1161
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:31,519
things have been I mean, he's putting pretty dominant. As

1162
00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:35,000
soon as he decided to be a basketball player during COVID,

1163
00:57:35,159 --> 00:57:38,239
he became dominant and very few people could keep up

1164
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,239
with him. In very few Pep can Garver m he

1165
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,039
can be at eighty eighty seventy five percent and beat

1166
00:57:43,639 --> 00:57:46,400
ninety nine percent of the players up to this point.

1167
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,760
Now what we're seeing is like you Seef is a

1168
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,599
top thirty five offensive unit. They can get buckets. They're

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playing your good players offensively. They're just not cohesive as

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a defensive unit, and that's their weakness. And so you know,

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they came in and they were a little bit just

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lase fair, that's what they were. And they thought they

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could just show up. They look at the record, they

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look at where they're ranked in standings, they look at

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their their epeople again like yeah, like we should be

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able to beat this team. We should be able to

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beat this team. And they faffoed, they messed around, and

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they found out real quick, we'll go to break. You

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gotta bring your a game. Anyone can beat anybody on

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