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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in.
Speaker 4: Ogb Our number two here on this Tuesday morning. All right,
So a couple of things to get too inside the
buy you for chat. Also, LSU got a big quarterback
commit yesterday. We talked a little bit about it. We'll
get into that with tat our official. Hmmm, recruiting correspondent.
I feel like that's appropriate for Tata. Yeah, because certainly
not your I No, no, no, we're not tracking the
high scores.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: That sounded weird for Tata. That's not what we intended.
Champ says. He's throwing the ball negative three yards at
a time. He looks like the last year of Drew Brees.
Can't sack someone that doesn't have a ball in his hand.
It's terrible. They are throwing it a ton at the
line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: Champ.
Speaker 4: But I'm like just watching it, not even going into
the stats that we just gave you and the grades
and all of that. You can just watch the game
until like, even when they are dropping back in traditional
you know, passing concepts, they still have a really good pocket.
So I hear you, and you know, some of that
certainly plays from them throwing at the line of scrimmage
or behind it. But the shell of the protection has
been good for the most part. Yeah, when you've had trouble,
it's been from the right side.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been good. You want to show clip? Alrighty,
it was ready, I was just watching one.
Speaker 3: He ready to go?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, sure, pull a lever, pull a lever. Yeah
we need a lever, right like Conan used to have
lever is Chuck.
Speaker 2: North's clips cause we're not robutt enough around here? Oh ready?
All right, hey check this out.
Speaker 5: So so this little play action fake, So just to
give y'all heads up kind of an idea about what's
happening right here, is it kind of tells you everything
that we kind of talked about. So what we're doing
is you see the tied end line up off the ball.
Speaker 2: To the left.
Speaker 5: So we're in a two We're in a three receiver set,
So what personnel is this the line? We got three
receivers one tight end, one running back, even so eleven personnel.
Speaker 2: That's right, we got a running back, we.
Speaker 3: Got tight end board with that question like, this is
the meaning eleven.
Speaker 5: So we got one receiver to the right, we got
two receivers to the left, and so it's a kind
of a trip's off formation with a tight end off
the ball to the left. Also, running back is lined
up to the left, so it's creating almost a four
by one that the defense has to push to. So
what you see here is a standard. It's going to
be a six man protection with a little playfake to
the running back. So what the what they're gonna say
is we're going I would call this like a two
jet protection or a flash two jet. So what the
offensive line is gonna have the four down lineman and
what you're going to see the way the center works,
He's gonna have the linebacker to the top, so to
the left of the center, not the linebacker overhead. And
so the running back is going to have the linebacker
that is directly in front of the center. So what
happens here is the linebacker so which means the center
works to the left because he's working to that left
linebacker and so you leave yourself open to a game
to the bottom creates pressure right right in Garrett nuss
Meyer's face, did 'tenough time to step up. Boom comes
off the right side. Just like we talked about, We're
gonna get a better look at this game. Right here
on the right side of the line of scrim as
a defensive tackle goes up the field, bull rushes the
guard and engages him, and there's a lot of holding
shoving there going on, which doesn't allow him to come
off on the looping defensive end, creating creating pressure.
Speaker 2: Now what I.
Speaker 5: Would like to see what Garrett Nutsmar will get into
at the next level and as he progresses in his
knowledge of NFL football, let's go back to the beginning.
Is we know we have four five man protection four down,
and I'm gonna call it the Sam up top because
of three by one set.
Speaker 2: Now, if you know we know right now there's no pressure.
Speaker 5: We know we know based on alignment, we know based
on DB's safety leverage, based on where the linebackers. The
linebackers are looking around like they're seeing where they're dropping.
I would I like to see Garrett Nusmyer move the
mic call to the center to the middle linebacker. Right there,
that's right over the head of the center. He's not
the center, he's the will but he's lined up over
the center's face. I would like for to move that
call and till the offensive lineman you got that guy.
Speaker 2: What does that do?
Speaker 5: It keeps the center in the center of the line
instead of pushing him left to where he can now
read a looping guy. So that is the next level
IQ thing that comes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't know if he has the freedom to do that,
but if we know we have pressure, let's not slide
our center left or right because of these games that
they like to play, and we know the right side
has been the little bit more leaky side.
Speaker 2: Right, let's watch it again.
Speaker 4: If he you also have the tight end on that
side as well, so it makes even more sense.
Speaker 3: And he's read clear.
Speaker 5: I would call this a thump or a nudge by
the tight end helping helping that guy. But a thump
er nudge right here from the back end is not
going to help this game. That's what we call a
Do you remember what that game is called, Calandra?
Speaker 6: Wait, what did you say?
Speaker 2: The game that the defensive defensive line is playing right.
Speaker 5: Right, defensive tackle goes first, and then the defensive end
loops around.
Speaker 2: I don't know, we're a te right there. Tackle first,
the e loop, and the.
Speaker 4: End would have gone first, and the tackle would have looped.
It would have been a yep.
Speaker 5: So watch seventy eight right here, you see seventy eight.
Right here, you see where his eyes are. His eyes
seventy eight's eyes. Left guard is two number five over there,
looking right at him. Now, if Nussmeyer changes the mic
declaration to twenty nine, which is wild because you're changing
it to the dB, but you know pressure's not coming,
seventy eight all of a sudden engages with a defensive tackle.
Sixty one has his eyes on twenty nine, and then
once he's not coming, looks for help. And who would
he help? He would help this big old boy coming
right here carrating that pressure. If that happens, Garyts sits
in the pocket, throws a dime. Probably big, big play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably big play because and look.
Speaker 5: This is what we talked about. This is where a
torso injury can really hurt you. When your feet are
off platform, they get parallel to your target, and you
got to really create a lot of torque. By keeping
that left shoulder close as much as you can creates
a lot of torque.
Speaker 4: You know, if he doesn't have injury, that thrower hurt, Yeah, seriously,
he doesn't bad. Yeah, and that's a that's a great breakdown,
you're right, Like simply moving the mic declaration over from
one guy to another, then you would have center help
and the center would be right there. So when the
looper looped, and even though the guard's being held, which
is good defense, he would be able to help pick
him up right there. Garry Nesmyer would have time and
he hits burying Brown there on the crosser.
Speaker 2: And look, loopers are hard.
Speaker 5: Like you tell me how good you're like those of
you watching and be able to watch it at home
or watching on YouTube, Like you tell me how you
would protect that if you're the right guard. It's hard
to come off an engagement like that.
Speaker 4: That's why they don't call defensive holding on that, which technically,
like is something you could call.
Speaker 3: They don't call that.
Speaker 5: They don't they call it every now and then. But
that's why you're seeing it in college football a lot
now because it's really hard to pick up. Even in
the NFL you're seeing it and it's really hard to
pick up. I saw yesterday, I think it was one
of the night games yesterday they did a safety end
game and they got Khalil Mack yeah free because they
hit the tackle with the safety and like made him
loop around. So I like moving those on regular six
man protections and eleven personnel. I like moving trying if
you can, trying to move the mic declaration in as
tight as possible, keep that center and the engage in
the center.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's you know something that like if you're
watching the game and you're like, wait, how's that running free? Yeah,
Scott Free.
Speaker 4: That when you take a look at it, the defensive
tackles doing a nice job of not getting called for
a penalty. He's holding up the guard. The tackles in
no man's land. There's nothing in the tackle can do. Actually,
Wes and Davis on that play tried to like come
back and get a piece tribe of the defensive line.
Speaker 5: But that's the difference between you see quarterbacks like in
the NFL, you're like, man, how would they like like
if so and so had had protection that this guy, like,
it'd be so much better. Like you see guys that
maybe not have like a lot of time. You look
at Anthony Anthony Richardson all the time in the world,
but then you see guy like Daniel Jones. Maybe Daniel
Jones is making those little subtle mic declarations that make
all the difference in the world. You talk about the
difference of a big play and an almost interception on
that last that that clip we just showed was the
difference of a mic declaration.
Speaker 4: Yep, nothing to do with physicality, right, are you know
losing your individual battle? Well, yeah, it didn't have anything.
It was a good, good game by them. You gotta
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Speaker 3: Like this is vibe on Tuesday, which is hard to do.
Speaker 4: It's very hard to get any positive vibes on a Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Nice job of Landra pest Mode.
Speaker 6: Don't moss. I saw him in concert a few years
ago and they're old. Know they were still really awesome.
Speaker 3: Good to hear because you never know.
Speaker 6: Oh man, he was like dancing around the stage like
he sounded good. The band sounded great. It was so awesome.
Speaker 3: That's awesome because you never know when you go see
a legend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like old man, they're on the old Biloxi
Casino tour.
Speaker 3: How are they are they still good?
Speaker 6: What happened to me with Travis tript A?
Speaker 3: The rice wasn't cooking in the microwave anymore.
Speaker 6: He left it a little too long.
Speaker 3: Or maybe not long enough. It was a little too Yeah.
Speaker 5: I saw I saw Brookson done in May at the
same of My Boots concert. They were great, but they
were like Joe Biden walking around.
Speaker 3: I saw my fellow.
Speaker 2: They're still good. A lot of hair and Beard Die is.
Speaker 6: The only one that ye disappointed.
Speaker 5: We can still sing though, like the songs are still great.
But yeah, it was it was. They were creeping around
that stage a little bit. Yeah, still doing it.
Speaker 2: Shout out.
Speaker 4: I hope, I pray So the Eagles. Something that the
Eagles like, you know, it's like they're farewell.
Speaker 5: For ye A couple of years late. A couple of
years late. Yeah, sure, hey get it. People are willing
to pay you do it.
Speaker 4: It's tough to see, you know, legends age not for everything, people,
Not everything's for sale.
Speaker 3: Not everyone's a vampire like Tom Brady. You know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe it's a Tom thing because.
Speaker 3: Tom Cruise is also a vampire. That's true. That's true.
Any other times that's it.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's true.
Speaker 5: Tom Hanks got a good run. That's looking pretty ageless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's just Tom Tom Holland it's about fourteen, Yeah,
he's probably thirty.
Speaker 2: Probably that's a good point. Huh, there's something to this,
I think. Hmmm. Speaking of Tom.
Speaker 4: Brady, that's why I was trying to transition to That
was pretty good. We just got this man with a
headset on.
Speaker 2: We just got him in the coaching booth right behind
the play.
Speaker 3: Card with a headset on and what headphones? A headset?
Speaker 4: What with a microphone with a tablet in front of
it in a suit?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you see the camera scanned on him and.
Speaker 4: He kind of like, oh god, chair, It's kind of
like his mouth didn't move.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm not saying a word, knowing he was
probably talking.
Speaker 2: It was like a Cold Play concert at the Sphere,
which definitely was.
Speaker 5: What quarter was this? I don't remember, but you could.
You could pull up. You can pull up us.
Speaker 3: That's all people are talking.
Speaker 5: About it because like, you got this guy calling games,
so he gets inside access to all these coaches, players,
He gets to go to practices the day before games.
Speaker 3: Like didn't they shoot him out of practice?
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay they shout him out of practice.
Speaker 3: He should be because they were like, we can't have
you in our building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like if you're another team, Yeah, I ain't
tell this dude nothing.
Speaker 4: And it's not like he's like a you know, minority
in the distance owner. Like when you're in the the booth,
the coaching booth, with a headset and a tablet in
front of you like you're in it.
Speaker 3: And he said, like Chip Kelly's like, you know, talk
to him like basically every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: They said they meet two or three times to go
over the game plan and watch film.
Speaker 2: What what? Yeah, all right, I.
Speaker 6: Meanders, Yeah, that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 4: This is him, Like, look, that is a headset, they
tablet in front of him.
Speaker 5: This feels like like you know what if he put
a hat on and he put just a Raiders hood,
maybe he doesn't stick out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got he suited and booted.
Speaker 6: Yeah, jawline, you can't miss you.
Speaker 2: Can't miss that. John's so handsome. Jaw me. I don't know,
how do you feel about this?
Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna say it's like it's not slimmy
because well, they're letting him do it.
Speaker 2: He's got this great job on.
Speaker 4: Came from he came from the Patriots, which they've been
known to dabble in extracurriculars.
Speaker 2: They're the ones I got caught.
Speaker 3: He's calling games.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, stealing signs because you're good at it,
and stealing because you're filming is different.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like I like the Astros, like, I'm
sure other people are doing it. We don't know that, No,
we don't. Never didn't hear any trash cans, Lance Armstrong
with the Tour de France. Everybody's doing it. Just the
best one, Barry Bonds, just the best one.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't. I don't know many hated.
Speaker 4: I don't know many other minority owners that have a
headset and tablet.
Speaker 2: No good point. He wouldn't call them plays. I'll tell
you that the new owner.
Speaker 6: Look, people are like kind of saying stuff about I
think the internet is pretty split down the middle about it.
But I do see people making some negative comments about Carly,
the new Colts owner, that she was the daughter of
what was.
Speaker 3: His name, Jim j.
Speaker 6: I was like Jeff, but I actually kind of like,
I mean they're two and oh maybe it's working. And
I've read this other thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I never really kept up with the Colts, but that
she's done that regularly and people are just kind of
now noticing it. But I mean, I'm I don't see anything, you.
Speaker 4: Know, so she's she's always actually like her answer, yeah,
campaign's people millions of dollars. Yeah, I want to make
sure that they're not just be honest, honestly a long
way like make sure that idiots.
Speaker 5: Even if unless like you're you have bad intentions, like honestly,
like people just can relate to right, Like, okay, we
get it.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: It came out when when they were getting the team
because it's three daughters, right, it's not just her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the reason she's in.
Speaker 7: The role she is is because Jim was like, she's
been here, she she's she's done stuff like that, She's
charted things for them before. And like, I'm paying a
defensive tackle fifteen million a year and he ain't performing.
I'm writing that down.
Speaker 2: He's getting cut.
Speaker 6: I don't hate it, but.
Speaker 4: I mean it does give what's the difference in that?
And like our boss listens probably to our shows. I'm
sure Flynn Foster listens.
Speaker 3: To this show. He might be listening right now. I
sat listens all the time, same situation.
Speaker 6: But it does give like HBO Max sitcom vibes whenever
I see clips of it, because she was like, I mean,
it's late through the field and her assistant or what
I could guess is her assistant is like running next
to her. So it just it really gives HBO Max sickcom.
But I don't know, I don't have I like it.
They're two and oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got no issue with it.
Speaker 5: I do understand like the sitcom, like aspect the visuals
of it, because it's just different. It's new, like you've
never seen that before. There is something to be said
for like wanting to keep an eye on your investment,
but then you also invested in a GM and a
head coach that's supposed to do that as well, like
you can't micro manage every little thing. I think she
probably just enjoys it, right, She just enjoys it, wants
to be a part of it. She wants to be
part of the team, which is fine, which is absolutely
I'm surprised Jerry Jones hadn't done that and Shane Stiking
not exactly.
Speaker 4: No Shane in list of hate on my boy Shane.
Speaker 7: When they were coming into the season, right, people were like, yeah,
and they may have to clean out they got Danny times.
Speaker 2: Now, Well that's what she's doing.
Speaker 7: She's running up and down the souths and making sure
like Richardson's not that, do not put him.
Speaker 2: She's like, he will not go in the game.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to cut him because I don't want
to overstep my GM. But you don't play Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 4: Let's just don't have him put on a uniform today.
Speaker 5: But yeah, like the Tom Brady that, I got no
issue with him being in the like up there, Like
he's a huge asset for somebody to have, right, it's
Tom Brady, He's the goat. It's just the optics aren't
great when he does the broadcast and he does get
a little bit access. Now I know it's been handcuffed
and tailoring back a little bit.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't really have any opinion on I just wanted
to thought it was an interesting point because people, a
lot of people do have opinions on it.
Speaker 4: You know what, at the end of the day, it
didn't matter because the bolt still whipped up on them.
Speaker 3: Sorry ass raps.
Speaker 2: Maybe Tom Brady sucks at doing that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, Pete Carroll that you turned seventy four yesterday.
Happy birthday. Here's an l right, not birthday. Not happy birthday?
Speaker 3: Pete.
Speaker 2: You benched me. Yeah, you're punk, you punk, got my
hopes up. You took it away from me.
Speaker 4: Do you remember when we went to when we went
to dinner, when I came, when I came on my
free agent visit and we went to dinner, and it
was me, you, Lacy, Pete Carroll, John Schneider, and oh,
my gosh, what's his name? Player coach hold On. He's
a GM for the pan Dan Morgan. Okay, god, I
couldn't get there. Played at Miami. He played for the Panthers.
Found it and Pete wasn't going to be there. And
then all of a sudden, like he shows up and
he's like kind of out of breadth, a little basic. Yeah,
I just got a little lot of workout and I
wanted to come stop by and uh sit.
Speaker 3: Down for a little bet.
Speaker 4: He like couldn't catch his breath, Like he like he
ran there. I'm like, Pete, my god, take a breath. Guy,
like a deep one.
Speaker 5: He's a good catch. He runs a good, little, good
good program. Even though he benched me, Yeah, maybe they
stole my dreams.
Speaker 4: Even though he offered me a contract that had zero
VET guarantees.
Speaker 3: He wanted me to sign my life away.
Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, so if you get hurt, we're gonna avoid
all these veteran guarantees that every other team has, and
we're just gonna cut.
Speaker 3: You and not give you anything. No Severiancy there, Ryeah, No,
I ain't.
Speaker 4: I'm good, Pete, I'm gonna sign I think, yeah, I'm good.
To Denver Bud, I'm cool. So all right, before we
take this break, I want to throw it back to
Taita because we mentioned it yesterday during the show, kind
of at the very end of the show. But LSU
does get a big quarterback commit. And now this is
not twenty twenty six, this is twenty twenty seven, and
we've talked about the twenty twenty seven class for over
a year now because it's loaded. And not only was
it loaded, but it was loaded with guys that had
strong LSU slash Louisiana ties. You had, you know Houston,
who ends up committing, which Taita is gonna tell you about.
Elijah Haven here in Baton Rouge. You had you know,
Gary Nessmaier's brother. Obvious he's gonna have ties to LSU.
You have another quarterback in North Louisiana that's like a
top fifteen quarterback in the country. You had Philip riversun
Gunner Rivers who Stephen Rivers played at LSU. Right, still
an LSU fan, Right, they're right down the road in
the mobile area. So like all these quarterbacks, at least
top quarterbacks had some kind of a tide either Louisiana
or LSU. So you felt good, you felt good about
getting one and tatay they end up getting one yesterday
to at least commit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Peyton Houston maybe my favorite quarterback in the state.
I know there's a lot of debate on who's the
best quarterback in twenty twenty seven. Look, he's only five
to eleven. I don't care about that. This guy's a
gamer when the lights come on. Like, if you've ever
watched this guy play, you know what I'm talking about.
I mean through for forty five hundred yards and thirty
eight touchdowns a year ago and only turned it over
six times. And a lot of people are going to say, yeah,
but Peyton Houston's one dimensional, he's a pocket passer.
Speaker 2: No, he's not.
Speaker 7: He had six hundred and ninety yards rushing a year ago.
Now he's not constantly looking to run. But this is
a guy that could take off. He scored seven rushing
touchdowns a year ago. I really like Peyton Houston. I mean,
the guy's just a gamer.
Speaker 4: I I wonder And we caught like the back end
of Shade Dixon talking at the event that we did
on Friday, and someone asked him this question about, you know,
maybe getting two quarterbacks in this class, and I thought
Shae had a great answer. He said, well, if you
get one, don't count nus Meyer out because like, if
you you know, can make a case and see a
path for two quarterbacks, it's going to involve Nussmeyer being
one of them.
Speaker 3: And I agree, like, obviously I have strong ties.
Speaker 4: Your brother was a star at LSU and he sat
and he waited his turn and it benefited him from
doing so, so that could you know, it's not going
to scare off I think neus Meyer from maybe committing
or signing.
Speaker 3: And look, you got to get to the finish line.
Speaker 4: We all know that that class is way down the
road there, but it's a big class and you just
have to make sure you get one of the players
that we're talking about with strong Louisiana ties.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the finish line is so far away the long way.
Speaker 7: December six is the earliest Houston two.
Speaker 5: Yeah, December twenty twenty six, what's this year. Well, you
know now we're in twenty five. Oh, okay, for about
fourteen months and two christmases?
Speaker 2: Got it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so you're talking about Dustbiner and you're talking
about if there was two. Like genetics, DNA is not
just like physical, it's also mental too, like his older
brother had went the path of the most resistance to
be a starting quarterback right when in a day and age,
which that just doesn't happen. And I could tell you
when I was in high school, I was under the
understanding of my signing.
Speaker 2: Class that we were taking two quarterbacks. There's two quarterbacks
are taken.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I remember jimbo Fisher telling me indixation, Jim,
we have offered five quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Wow, including you.
Speaker 5: Five quarterbacks and maybe it was six, I can't remember.
They're like, we all think y'all are great. We think
y'all all can be a starting quarterback here. We all
we want all of y'all equally. We're taking the first
two that commit.
Speaker 3: Basically was that.
Speaker 5: Now it turns out the first two the committed didn't
end up signing because they apparently they would have won
a little bit more. They wanted to Marcus a little
bit more. They kept recruiting him after the two were committed,
But I knew from like, so I can tell you
it's if that message is there. I do think you
need to be upfront with all the quarterbacks saying there's
a possibility we take two quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in this class.
Speaker 5: You don't surprise a quarterback that's committed to you in
high school. You don't surprise him by taking a second quarterback.
It's like an upfront situation. Hey, but we're recruiting you,
We're offering four quarterbacks. We're offering five quarterbacks. There's a
potential we could take two. I want that to be
a part of your decision. I want you to be
okay with competition. I want you to be a dog.
I want you to come in here and don't care
if we take two. Make make sure it's you.
Speaker 3: And not everybody's going to be okay with that.
Speaker 4: But to your point, like in the DNA of what
we've seen from the nuss Meyer family, like Colt Nuschmeyer
might be just that. And look he's three and ninety pounds.
He's a different body type than his brother as well,
but still like was raising the same household and with
the same mentality, so like not going to run from competition.
Speaker 5: Tough situation to be in as a coaching staff too.
Even if you just want to take one, I get
the finish line so far away. You have a lot
of talent in that class at the quarterback position, a
lot of them with the ties here to LSU. So
you know you stand a pretty good chance with everybody. Yeah,
and if you just wanted to take one, what do
you do when they commit? You can't stop recruiting them.
And then if you stop recruiting them to you pissed
the one guy off. That's that's committed. Like it's it's
kind of like a recruiting's tough man. It's a there's
a there's a smart way to do things, but it's
also a personal thing too. It's a you have to
know how to deal with people. You have to know
how to make sure they're still feeling love if they're committed.
But also understand that we still have to recruit somebody
because you haven't signed yet, and you could decide not
to sign here. Yeah, we can't be holding an empty bucket.
Speaker 4: Lance Rechard inside the by you forward chat, do people
still care about recruiting anymore with the current landscape of recruiting,
especially from a kid that's fifteen months from signedday notes
a Valley question and Lance, I mean obviously, like we
used to on sports radio talk about recruiting all the time,
I mean all the time. It's like you had to
do a segment a day and the Bayou Bash. Oh
remember how big that used to be. Right, the facts
is coming in and everybody's holding their breath. To your point, no,
because of the transfer portal, it's like a lot of
people lost interest because it's like, oh, they even gonna
be here in a year, two years, whatever. I do
think still quarterback plays, though again we don't talk recruiting
on this show very often at all, and you're right,
he is far away. But this twenty twenty seven quarterback
class is special, and again with so many Louisiana slash
lsu ties, I think it is a must that you
get one of the top guys or it would be
a big miss. And so like to your point, I
agree with you, but this is a unique situation just
because of it being quarterback, having like five guys to
kind of not choose from. I'm not saying everybody's like
knocking down the door. Like we've heard Elijah Haven might
be leaning towards Florida, but you need to get one
in this class, and you might get two if you
can still, you know, continue to recruit Coltonusmeyer and he comes,
which I think with today's landscape of quarterbacks leaving all
the time, like if you can stack quarterbacks and absolutely.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think anybody who's ever been on a
radio cares less about high schooler's decisions than me. But
quarterback does always play. It is a big decision. You
see quarterbacks playing at such a young age right now.
It's the It's just quarterback play. Doesn't matter what it is,
transfer high school recruit, good, bad, ugly, whatever it is,
it always plays. It's always a big deal because it's
the most important position. That's not to take anything away
from every other position. It's just a fact of the
matter that it really is. You can you can have
the greatest team on earth, but if you don't have
a competitive quarterback, it doesn't really matter how good everybody
else is.
Speaker 3: You have to be good. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So LSU does get a commit, but look, we also
realize that that finish line is not insight. You gotta
get some binoculars out to see it. But we'll continue
to update you. And does LSU take a twenty twenty
six quarterback is still a part of the story as well.
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we'll talk. I was about to be like a little
bit sporty.
Speaker 2: Now, let's go, let's keep it going. I signed up
for this, let's go.
Speaker 6: I have breaking sports news. Well we didn't go around
the room this morning because there was a lot of
foot like NFL just like actual news to talk about it.
And I know that's like actually what we're supposed to
talk about. Uh allegedly that's what the say, yes, but
we dictate what we talk about here. But I was
gonna say, like I came across the story this morning
and it kind of like it rocked me a little bit.
So everybody's familiar with stone skipping, right, like skipping stone?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so they.
Speaker 6: Do a national like an international championship actually, so like
people go out there. It's called the Stone the World
Stone Skimming Championships naturally, where you go out there and
literally you just skip stones, right, and they try to see.
More than twenty two hundred people from twenty seven countries
attended this year's Stone Skimming Championship, right is it distance?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: And it's scott too, So I don't know the article
that I read doesn't really say like how far, so
we can look into it. But the article that I
read did not say multiple people have been disqualified for
from the stone skimming. Nope, they're not weighted, but they are.
They did kind of shave them a little bit to
make them more circular.
Speaker 2: Wow, So.
Speaker 6: People disqualified and just messing with the integrity the skimming championship.
Wow in Scotland. Disrespectful to the sport.
Speaker 5: You think Vegas had a little to do with this,
probably had some ods on it, so they got to
shave it to be more round. I was thinking it
might be like a Christmas vacation situation where they greased
up the bottom of it.
Speaker 2: Maybe.
Speaker 6: No, so they so they're actually like a thing that
they used to measure the stones because they have to
be like at least three inches in measurement, right, So
they actually measure the stones and everything, and people were
just shaving them to make them perfectly circular so that
they skip better.
Speaker 2: Can't shave your stones. That's a good one. That was serious.
Speaker 6: This is a serious story.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it rocks nice one twenty seven countries.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 6: Twenty seven Coty?
Speaker 5: You think this was a bring your own stone kind
of competition or you or you walk the river.
Speaker 6: So yeah, they have to come naturally, they have to
come from an island slate, so they have to be
that you have to find them like around the island,
so it is kind of first come, first serve you
find fixed stone. These people were shaving them.
Speaker 2: And how many people?
Speaker 3: How many? How many people people?
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I don't know how many people got disqualified clear,
but more than twenty two hundred people went to the competition. Wow,
from twenty seven different countries, all gathered on the west
coast of Scotland. And these people are out here shaving
their stones.
Speaker 7: It makes sense that you have to get it from there,
you know, I mean twenty seven different countries.
Speaker 2: Not everybody's stones are the same.
Speaker 7: Size, so the different size yeah, like actually makes a
lot of sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brett brings up a good point.
Speaker 4: Take some serious stones to think you can cheat the
system to get away with That's exactly right.
Speaker 6: Sometimes like the guy that was putting weights in his fish.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh you know, fishermen, you lie about it.
Speaker 6: Nothing sick.
Speaker 4: You can have like a five pound bass, which is
a monster bass, right, And it's actually like four point six.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, and if you.
Speaker 4: Say five pounds fish like real fishermen, like way, five
pound four point six.
Speaker 2: I remember the.
Speaker 7: Worst part about that video, if y'all remember about that
he had to stand up on the platform, get called
out for cheating, then walk through the crowd of angry
people to his truck to get out of them. He
wound up having to payback like yeah, big seventy five thousand.
Speaker 2: He had done it in so many tournaments.
Speaker 5: And you know he got his ass b too. Yeah,
champion got he got hooked. He got fish hook for
real in a fight, like with a fishhook.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 5: Like, so Scotland, I'm thinking of the stones, Like Scotland's
pretty famous for their stones too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like they're the only people I.
Speaker 5: Think that make the official curling stones as well, really
like for Olympic curling things. I think the stones comes
from a specific type of rock.
Speaker 6: Okay, so for reference in Scotland, Entrent Jonathan ooh, y'all
an American so Entrent Jonathan Jennings went onto victory last
week as the contest first American winner, giving his stones
accumulative distance of one hundred and seventy seven meters so
just for like a point of reference, that is the
champion last weeks.
Speaker 5: I mean, what kind of torque. He does not have
a tour, He does not have a torso injury at all.
He is creating so much torque in so many levers
with his arm. I mean, and you got it. You
got to drop down and side arm that thing too.
There's got to be like also like a regulation on
how far between the hand.
Speaker 2: That lets it go and the first skip. Probably you
probably can't throw it like one hundred one hundred meters
in the air. So there's gotta be some sort of
rule on that. This is not year round, this is
something only I would imagine.
Speaker 6: So each competitor is allowed for climates.
Speaker 2: Because I'm saying stones aren't a big during the winter.
Speaker 5: If you're on the on the banks of the river,
and even two stones right next to each other that
look like they belong, but they're not.
Speaker 2: Going to be the same size. They might be different sizes.
Speaker 6: So each competitors allowed three skins and stones must bounce
at least twice on the water before sinking, So you
got to get at least two bounces.
Speaker 5: That's it, Okay, So it's like a little bit right.
I just looked, Yeah, average, you were just like, that's
just a long toss.
Speaker 2: That's just a long.
Speaker 3: Toss at that point.
Speaker 5: Like, to me, a skip competition should be the amount
of skips you get right now, not really the distance
now one hundred and seventy seven meters, it isn't impressive even.
Speaker 2: With two skips. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if that's how much he had, ye,
but you have.
Speaker 5: To have to have at least that, so I guess
you're doing for distance with just I don't know how
it works, but I just looked up the world record
for most consecutive skips of a stone on water. Then
tell me what kind of stone this is. I'm assuming
it's an American stone, okay, because it was thrown by
an American USA, Kurt the mountain man Steiner.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was born to do that.
Speaker 2: He was born to dude, created the sport.
Speaker 4: Born of a mountain. He ain't shaving stones, No, he ain't.
He's all man from USA.
Speaker 5: In twenty thirteen at Red Bridge Alleghany National Forest, and
right here in America, Pennsylvania, skipped eighty eight times.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, eighty.
Speaker 6: That's crazy skips on water imagine that.
Speaker 5: I can't imagine that talk, but that's what you get
when you get a good American stone.
Speaker 6: I feel like this should be in the Olympics.
Speaker 2: Olympic stones, I mean, you're better than breakdancing. Oh gosh,
I forgot about that. But I think, but I think
that the amount of stones, the amount of skips you
get distance, Well maybe you could like look in the Olympics.
Speaker 7: You know you have ski and but there's seven different types,
Like what if you did distance and then number of skips,
like two separate competitions.
Speaker 5: And then you get into the problem like in the Olympics,
and you have Russia with their performance enhancing, their stones
are gonna be a little bit smaller than everybody.
Speaker 2: They're gonna cheat more aerodynamic, Yeah, smaller. You get it
because are the steroids.
Speaker 3: We did get it. You don't have to explain it.
Speaker 6: He MJ makes a good point. He said, I'm sure
the at least two skips rules is there so people
won't try to just throw it.
Speaker 5: If you're going for a good one skip, I think
you would like skip it hard, skip it right hard,
right right in front of you, and then it like
pops up and you get that glide effect.
Speaker 6: Now I'm gonna go skip some stones after this. Yeah,
underrated hobby of skipping stones.
Speaker 2: Underrated always said it all right. Treats Melbourn injuries, though.
Speaker 4: We seriously take a break out when we come back.
A lot of people yesterday were wondering if the Bengals
could make a play for Jamis Wins. Well, they've made
a play for some quarterbacks, and we'll tell you who
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Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. It's off the
bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn, all the shine off.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back again O TV.
Speaker 4: There was a rumor out there yesterday that potentially the
Bengals could make a play for Jamis Winston, who's on
the Giants roster, maybe make a trade with Joe Burrow
being out for three.
Speaker 3: Months, and maybe that still happens.
Speaker 4: But the Bingles have made a couple of quarterback moves
and none of them are Jamis ah. The Bengals are
sign former Packers quarterback Sean Clifford and veteran quarterback Mike White.
Speaker 3: To their practice squad.
Speaker 4: So I think Mike White was with Buffalo in this preseason,
if I'm not mistaken. He's had some starts with Miami
and maybe some other teams as well. Sean Clifford of course, Uh.
Penn State quarterback from a couple of years ago. So
Sean Clifford Mike White to the practice squad.
Speaker 5: No, Jamis, Wow, that's disappointing. You know, it's always the
cool storylines, the cool things you want to happen.
Speaker 2: Never do.
Speaker 5: I think I tweeted bout it last night or extit
last night, whatever you call it.
Speaker 6: We saw it, say I still call it twitter. Mike White,
by the way, has a very soft look to him.
Speaker 7: He got a ball with the Jets for at the Dolphin.
It's it's a disappointed but not surprising. Like if you're
trading for a guy, you probably want him to come
in and start, like Jake Browning is going to be
their starter. He actually played okay last Sunber went down
with an injuries.
Speaker 2: Like I kind of get it, but it's not fun.
It's not fun, But like it just makes sense.
Speaker 5: We want, we need, we need Jamis Winston back in
the spotlight. Yeah, football fans, we got to have audio
of him everything. I mean, can you imagine the audio
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be exciting. Put fans in the stands, Ask in the seats.
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