WEBVTT 1 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:31.879 Guess what, Madness the Cab original Gangsters. 2 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:34.679 A bet we ain't playing. 3 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:35.840 No gaming from you tonight. 4 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:37.799 Welcome back to Calling All Beings. 5 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:40.560 I'm your host, DJ, and I am delighted to be 6 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:44.520 joined by the original Gangsters of CAB because guess what. 7 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:48.039 Once a month, we're gonna be bringing you something that's 8 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:50.679 a little bit spicier, a little bit different. 9 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:55.399 I shouldn't say spicier, let's say different than true crime. 10 00:00:55.600 --> 00:01:00.640 We're gonna be doing either something UFO related, something paranormal related, 11 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:03.880 or our good friend from the forest, what's his name, Courtney? 12 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:08.280 Are you talking? 13 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:11.879 Are you talking about the Snowman? Yeah, the Eddie mister 14 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:12.920 Snowman as. 15 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:14.280 They like the abdominal snowmash. 16 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:17.000 Yes, all right. 17 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:20.120 Sober sitting right next to me is the co creator 18 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:23.599 of Calling All Beings, the incomparable. 19 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:27.599 From North Carolinata Money Nathan, what is. 20 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:28.280 Up, y'all? 21 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:28.840 Man? 22 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:29.719 It's going to do this. 23 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:34.159 Shown that if you want everybody with me. 24 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:38.959 And just below me right there, we don't have a 25 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.000 center square, so no paul Lin this evening. Uh is 26 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:46.519 one of the original gangsters, also Calling All Beings, known 27 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:59.599 as a study of UAPs. We like to call her debs. Hi, everybody, Hey, 28 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:02.319 welcome back, deb I'm sorry about your back. 29 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:03.400 I wish we were. 30 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:06.760 There to walk on it or or do some elbow business. 31 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:10.800 But you know the new addition who is not named 32 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:16.199 Bobby Brown, but she is in Alaska and Montana resident 33 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:20.560 put your hands together for the curly haired Pennsylvanian where 34 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:26.000 this movie was shot, Courtney connected. 35 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:33.439 Hi, everybody, welcome back home girl. 36 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:34.639 Good to see you. 37 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:38.439 Are you okay? Is everything I am? 38 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:39.039 I am? 39 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:40.719 I didn't know if it was my turn or not, 40 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:42.960 so I was just waiting her turn. 41 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:45.639 I'm excited. I'm excited about tonight. 42 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:50.280 Actually, I have watched the screening twice and I'm just 43 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:52.960 so excited to talk with these guys about their production. 44 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:54.520 So it's gonna be fun. 45 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.639 This was so dope. As soon as the gray skies, 46 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:01.680 like I saw the grace guys of Brownsville, I was like, 47 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:04.479 can I pull the covers like right up to like here. 48 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:06.680 It's like when I saw Halloween one. It was kind 49 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:10.800 of like that vibe. So these gentlemen, these gentlemen are 50 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:17.039 dockside media. They did go to this town called Brownsville, Pennsylvania, 51 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:22.120 where I listened to a podcast of a local politician, 52 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:25.199 and just that scared the living hell out of me. 53 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:29.759 Uh So, I can imagine when these guys got in 54 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:35.520 there with their amazing team of paranormal investigators, mediums, intuitives 55 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:36.240 and so forth. 56 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:39.080 It must have been just while. So let's let's get 57 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:41.000 started with dock side meeting party. 58 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:41.400 People. 59 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:44.280 Put them up on stage, Nathan, put your hands together 60 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:49.199 for Chris Ruper, and everybody give me an am. 61 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:50.240 Man for Chris Rupert. 62 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.360 Hey, guys, thanks for having us, Thanks for having us. 63 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:56.479 Tyler said he's joining back in because you know his 64 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:57.280 internet as well. 65 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:02.560 What hy, We've gossed me up the internet. 66 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:02.840 Man. 67 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:06.159 He's in Lancaster, which is like where the Amish are 68 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:08.759 and stuff. So the internet out there not as good. 69 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:11.520 You have like a donkey right now, that's on like 70 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:12.560 a treadmill. 71 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:13.840 That's internet. 72 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:15.639 I would hold it out yet in. 73 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:20.399 Lancaster even Yeah, and even one of the one of 74 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:23.879 the friends that was in in the movie, she said 75 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:27.040 she was from Shimoking and that's right down that down 76 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:28.879 right down the road from where I grew up. So 77 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.319 it's so funny because it's like all these hometown people. 78 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:31.839 I love it. 79 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:33.800 I love it that Pennsylvania's representing. 80 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:36.879 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm from Ncaster as well, but I 81 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:40.000 don't live there anymore. 82 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:43.959 Oh yeah, it is a courtney. Have you been to Brownsville? 83 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:45.399 You know? 84 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:48.000 No, I haven't, And I was going to ask you guys. 85 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:50.800 I'm I don't want to get you know, kurb ahead 86 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:52.839 of the horse, but I'm just wondering if you guys 87 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:57.079 are thinking about like the rep you know of Brownsville 88 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:57.800 and your movie. 89 00:04:57.800 --> 00:04:58.639 Well maybe we'll get that. 90 00:04:58.920 --> 00:04:59.839 Yeah, we can get into that. 91 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:03.519 Yeah, yeah, we got one more intro to do right here. 92 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:06.639 Somebody who's struggling with some damn amish internet. But you 93 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:09.319 know what, this brother got some talent and he is 94 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:12.439 a pleasure to speak with on the phone. I can 95 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.000 guarantee you that part of people put it in. 96 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:17.839 Get the cheeto dust off your fingers and put it 97 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:29.000 together for Tyler Chance you party, Tyler DJ, thank you 98 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:33.920 so much for having us on. My heart was breaking 99 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.439 when you were doing the intro. I thought I was 100 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:39.199 the only lively animated guy, you know, get my hands 101 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:41.800 and everything into it. I saw you going wild. I'm 102 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:45.240 like messaging Chris bro I don't have audio what's going on? 103 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:49.000 So I have no idea what you said. But Tyler 104 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:52.720 with Dockside Media on the other half with Chris, we 105 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:56.439 have a lot of fun putting these documentaries together, everything 106 00:05:56.439 --> 00:06:01.600 from aliens, UFOs, ghost hunting, paranormal sasquatch, you name it. 107 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:04.720 We go out and film it and then edit it 108 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:07.319 into you know what you guys saw and surrounded by 109 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:10.360 Spirits and we have a lot of fun and we're 110 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.600 just help trying to help destigmatize these types of topics 111 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:17.600 and generate discussion. And it's been cool what's been happening 112 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:20.920 all over the place, especially you know with UFOs and 113 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:24.360 whatnot and the drones on the East Coast. So yeah, 114 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:27.399 we're we're uh, you're are We feel like we're amongst 115 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:28.240 good people. 116 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:33.560 You is you is? Uh? Nathan, make sure when you 117 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:35.720 do the stream make sure to throw mine in there too, 118 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:38.879 because there's a couple there's a couple couple of people 119 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:42.240 that are like no DJ and they conflate call all 120 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:44.000 beings and calling all beings. 121 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:44.519 And they don't. 122 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:47.600 So I just threw that up in there, so streaming 123 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:51.600 from uh my personal channel as well. Uh. I just 124 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:53.839 want to say hello to everybody up in the joint 125 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:56.639 before we get started before we get down to business, 126 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:01.519 because we do have some caboat so so obviously Julie's here. 127 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:04.839 What's up, Julie? How you doing, Homie? She's the original 128 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:08.959 gangster of our mod crew. Kelly Stephie is here. Who 129 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.839 thank you Kelly for helping out and adding some great 130 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:17.079 commentary last night when that girl Josie was going through 131 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:21.279 their paranormal experience on air, which we got to talk 132 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:24.800 about that later. Kimberly Maguire, Hello. 133 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:26.360 Kimmily, Welcome to the show. 134 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:33.199 Uh who else we got in here? I gotta scroll 135 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:36.120 down because these are all the early folks that got here. 136 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:40.079 Beatrice is here? What's up Beatrice? She's a co collaborator 137 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:44.560 on the true crime A True Crime Unsolved of cab. 138 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:49.319 Sherry Dizzle is our other mod who's brilliant. And this 139 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:52.000 gentleman right here is staying up real late in the 140 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:56.079 UK so and Micholas has been with us. He love man. 141 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.600 He he sent me a video where spirits look like 142 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:01.959 they are sitting right next to him on the sofa 143 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:07.360 as he's live and blows my mind. Lulubelle, Miss Jessica 144 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:11.879 and busy with sub Hoomie. And these are true crime 145 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.839 fans here lovely and now we got to get into it, man, 146 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:18.959 we got to get started with business, some money, Nathan, 147 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:20.800 take the damn thing away. 148 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:23.759 All right, I'll do my best. So Chris, great to 149 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:26.000 have you guys with us. I want to start out 150 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.959 with a little bit of background, because you guys have 151 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:31.360 been prolific in creating these documentaries. 152 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:31.560 There. 153 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:36.120 They're really well done. Enjoy the comments the content. You know, 154 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:38.639 you're looking at lots of different subjects. That's really cool. 155 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:43.159 Where does that interest come from? Is there a personal 156 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.399 connection to some of these particular subjects or is it 157 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:49.639 just a general fascination. So that's one question I want 158 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:51.320 to address. But the other I want you to like 159 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:54.480 to talk about is the creative process itself, because I 160 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.799 see a lot of creative work going on in your production. 161 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:00.879 It's not just a very flat kind of show. There's 162 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.879 a lot of cool angles and you're looking at interesting subjects, 163 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:06.480 and you know, I like that kind of aspect to 164 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:09.080 the documentary, and I wonder who's bringing that flavor to 165 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.399 the production. So maybe we'll start with with Chris and 166 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:13.120 we'll go to Tyler. 167 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:18.679 Well, I can speak to the creative aspect both Tyler 168 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:21.080 and I or camera ops on these things. 169 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:23.440 So it's dockside media is just Tyler and I. 170 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:26.399 We go out, we we film everything, and we come 171 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:29.840 back with a ton of footage and no storyline or 172 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:30.639 anything in mind. 173 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:32.159 It's just whatever we capture. 174 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:34.679 We know we have to find what's there, and so 175 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:37.120 I do all the editing, and it's it's a lot 176 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:40.279 like getting like a big making a statue. You just 177 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:42.399 have a big rock and you chisel away until you 178 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:47.679 find the storyline and it's always there. With the alien stuff, 179 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:52.519 those things are definitely a bit different than the paranormal investigations. 180 00:09:54.159 --> 00:10:00.200 Usually that's like just getting a few interviews and seeing 181 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:05.519 parallels between the interviews and finding like patterns that arise, 182 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:08.000 and so there you can kind of start crafting the 183 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:11.159 film out of things that line up with the investigations. 184 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:14.080 We really have no idea what's going to happen, what 185 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.799 you're gonna get, And there's so much more footage because 186 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:19.480 we're just filming hours and hours and hours, and then 187 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:22.759 when we get back home it's like, man, what an experience, 188 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:24.440 But now I have to put it together into something 189 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:28.279 that's not only interesting and engaging and entertaining, but makes 190 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:31.519 sense and feels like, you know, it feels like a story, 191 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:36.080 even though it's really just telling a boiled down version 192 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:38.240 of what happened to us, but in an entertaining, an 193 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:41.039 interesting way, and luckily so far. I mean, I think 194 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:44.360 it's a testament to the people we've worked with, honestly, 195 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:47.360 who are able to you know, we're behind the camera, 196 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:49.080 they're in front of it, so they're more, way more 197 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:52.440 important than us. And you know, working with these people, 198 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:55.279 we always come away with such interesting things that happen. 199 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:59.759 I'm the skeptical one of the crew, and I'm always 200 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:04.240 blowing boy by what happens on these shoots. And I constantly, 201 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:08.960 you know, think sometimes I'm just like sitting here thinking, 202 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:10.440 like look editing its footage. 203 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:12.559 I'm like, man, what this is? A life like this is? 204 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:15.360 So I get to be in this crazy, old haunted 205 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:18.679 hotel at three o'clock in the morning, I get to 206 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.000 be in Gettysburg and like doing a ghost hunt in 207 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:24.440 the middle of a basement from an old building, Like 208 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:26.799 just crazy stuff that never would have thought about. 209 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:29.000 So that's like it's just such. 210 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:31.240 A passion to make these things and come back home 211 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:34.480 and craft something fun out of them. 212 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:36.600 I love it well, could see you on this production. 213 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:40.159 It really was well crafted and Tyler, I'd like to 214 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:42.919 get your thoughts too on kind of with the greatest 215 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:45.120 side of it, as Chris spoke to, but also maybe 216 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:47.759 the genesis of dock side media. 217 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:55.039 Yeah, this baby all started well, our first docum ount 218 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:57.080 in twenty twenty two. I guess it started in twenty 219 00:11:57.120 --> 00:11:59.600 twenty one, correct, Christ the summer of twenty twenty one, 220 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:02.960 Chris was like, we've known each other from high school, 221 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:07.320 but weren't like great friends or anything. Yeah, shout out 222 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:13.679 high school. We're coming up on forty let's go. But 223 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:17.279 but yeah, so Chris, we both saw each other on 224 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:21.200 Facebook socials like doing filmmaking and had a little experience 225 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:24.519 working together on a few different things, and he was like, hey, dude, 226 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:28.440 what about would you want to make documentaries? I was like, yep, 227 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.600 let's do it. And he was like, yeah, we should 228 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:36.240 do something like interesting like you know those UFOs sasquatch. 229 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:38.600 So I'm like, yep, I'm sold. That would be super 230 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:41.519 fun to go and just adventurous, man, go like we 231 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:44.279 go on these adventures. It's sick, dude. I'm almost forty 232 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:49.519 years old, and yeah, we went for anybody real familiar 233 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:51.960 with the paranormal community. Do we have the opportunity back 234 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:55.759 in this past June twenty twenty five to go film 235 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.879 with Amy Bruney and we filmed a six episode docu 236 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:04.120 series titled Historically Hanted with Amy Brady. She's a massive, 237 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:09.159 you know, well known paranormal investigator on Kindred Spirits and 238 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:12.039 ghost Hunters and all that. So it's just crazy. We 239 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:14.159 go from Chris mentioning, hey do you want to make 240 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:18.240 start making documentaries whatever, like four and a half years 241 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:20.720 ago or three and a half years ago, to man 242 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:24.200 getting those types of opportunities and just releasing surrounded by Spirits, 243 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.720 and our work just keep getting better and really has 244 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:31.799 started with I saw Reddit post for the calling all beings, 245 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:34.679 you know the fans out there they might be familiar 246 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:39.159 or recall on Julie. She's a former Department of Defense 247 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:42.159 intelligence officer. So I happen to see that Reddit post saying, hey, 248 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:44.279 she's gonna be She's going in front of the Lincoln 249 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:48.720 Memorial to give like a press conference regarding these beings 250 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:51.440 that she had contact with and trying to rage a 251 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:53.840 team to go out and again expedition to go out 252 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:58.000 and investigate. I'm like Chris, dude, I don't know what 253 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:02.240 we're going to make, but like the guts for somebody 254 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:04.840 to go and do this. And a former intelligence officer 255 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:07.879 blah blah blah, Like dude, like, I'm gonna go down 256 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:09.919 and capture it. We'll figure out what to do with it. 257 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:13.080 And and that was really how it all started. Went 258 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:16.279 and just filmed it. Had spoken to her like on 259 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.679 you know, through emails and Reddit some and she allowed 260 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:20.600 me to micro up and that's that type of thing. 261 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:25.600 And then from there we noticed this lady Sue Walker, 262 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:30.559 who's a telepath out in Albuquerque, New Mexico. You know, 263 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:35.559 she she's her experiences. She's been in contact with the Ponte, 264 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:39.360 which are a set of extraterrestrials in the Sandia Mountains. 265 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:42.759 So and I could go on and on for days, 266 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:45.000 but basically, yep, we make that connection. Boom, we get 267 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:47.720 hooked up with another person, Clifford Mahoodi, who was on 268 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:51.240 ancient Aliens blah blah. The rest is history history. We 269 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:53.519 like Chris said, we don't go into these things with like, 270 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:56.120 oh dude, here's a storyline we should try and hit. 271 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:59.200 Let's try and lead people in this direction. It's like 272 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:02.279 got Enna, Like, you guys give us your experience, depending 273 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:05.919 on if it's interviews with encounters or government officials or 274 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.080 seeing Anulya aircraft, whatever it may be. So no, just share, 275 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:12.039 share with us, like your experience. Man, we don't judge anybody. 276 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:16.879 And and so it's been really cool to go and 277 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:19.919 do these things. And just I don't know, the universe 278 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:24.399 delivers every single time, and Chris always finds a great 279 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:28.120 storyline in all the footage and drama that we've captured. 280 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:29.919 So I love it. 281 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:31.639 I love that you're chasing that dream and it's just 282 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:34.200 kind of leading you in these cool places. It's really 283 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:35.919 exciting and we can relate to that on this show. 284 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:38.879 We certainly can. We've been thrown together and in some 285 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:41.240 ways by a happenstance, but it feels in a way 286 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:44.000 almost like it's been planned out. So I'm really excited 287 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:46.360 to see that journey that you guys are on together. 288 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:48.039 I'm going to pass it off to Debt. I know 289 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.120 she's got some burning questions that she wants to ask, 290 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:51.360 so we'll pass it over to her. 291 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:54.919 That's my homegirl. 292 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:55.559 Okay. 293 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:59.039 So one of the things I you know, I notice 294 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:02.240 that you're really worried about having a story when you 295 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.120 were making this documentary. But the whole time, I was 296 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:10.200 so fascinated by the people that that, to me was 297 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:11.559 the bigger story. 298 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:12.559 Than the paranormal. 299 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:17.799 It was almost like it was an investigation of the investigators. 300 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.559 So I've since, you know, since it's not necessarily what 301 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:24.840 everyone else is going to say, the story is. I 302 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:27.559 just wanted you to say what you think was the 303 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:29.919 biggest thing take away from this documentary? 304 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:35.360 Oh yeah, I think you nailed it there the movie? 305 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:38.480 Oh sorry, go ahead, Did you say something else? 306 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:41.519 Deb I was going to just pick who went first? 307 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:42.639 You go go. 308 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:44.440 I was going to say, yeah, you nailed it. 309 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:44.639 Though. 310 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:48.960 The story is those people and what happened there, and 311 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:54.159 the dynamics and even us included. There was and Becky 312 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:56.480 says this several times throughout the movie, but discord is 313 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.480 the underlying kind of theme that happened while we were invegating. 314 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.200 People went in there happy and looking for a great 315 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:08.960 kind of fun time investigation, and things went a little 316 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:15.000 bit off for everyone. Conflicts, Tyler and I getting frustrated, 317 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:18.319 I know, the investigators getting frustrated. To tell the psychics 318 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:22.759 getting frustrated and the I'm not gonna give away the 319 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:24.720 end of the movie or anything, but like the end 320 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:28.079 that happened in the moment when I was there, I 321 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:30.799 was like, this feels like I'm at the end of 322 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.880 a movie. Like it felt the energy was so alive 323 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.079 because of the kind of journey we all went on. 324 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:40.960 Started out real fun, got into fights and stuff like 325 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:43.200 it just it wasn't midway through. 326 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:44.839 We were like what is going on here? Like what 327 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:45.160 is this? 328 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:49.480 Is not what we thought was gonna happen, But it 329 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:51.240 all came to a head and we we just literally 330 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:52.799 just talked to Becky I don't know, a couple of 331 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:55.559 days ago, like we're all everything's great, like we love her. 332 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:58.559 But during this time, man, everybody was kind of put 333 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:01.799 through the ringer. So when I was putting the movie together, 334 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:03.720 it was like that was like the biggest part of 335 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.720 it is the journey that. 336 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:08.079 The people went through. 337 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:11.559 There's tons of tons of cool, you know, supernatural ghost 338 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:13.359 stuff in the film as well, But I don't know 339 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:17.559 if there's been another paranormal kind of documentary like this 340 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:20.680 that kind of shows behind the scenes stuff. 341 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:28.039 And again that was something that wasn't pre planned and Chris, 342 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.839 we didn't go into it saying, oh, like we're never 343 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:35.400 in our documentaries. It was just like, oh man, the 344 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:39.720 universe delivered us these circumstances where yeah, everybody's kind of 345 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:44.680 getting at each other. And Chris is like, huh, you 346 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:46.640 know what, we need to include this in the film. 347 00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:50.799 I'm like, Bro, that's that is an excellent idea because yeah, 348 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:53.279 this is a big part of what's going on, and 349 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:57.319 hopefully people that do do paranormal investigating, we'll just see 350 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:00.480 the authenticity of what these people are doing. It's like 351 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:04.640 sometimes we don't you know, sometimes you don't get anything, yeah, right, 352 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:07.839 or sometimes there are conflicting reports. You know, the the 353 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:11.240 intuitives or mediums might get something, but the people with 354 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:17.559 the paranormal equipment may not, right, and uh. 355 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:19.039 So there's there's an aspect to it. 356 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:21.519 There, the authenticity that you're speaking of, Tyler, It's like 357 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:26.359 I can understand the pressure. Like the lead investigator, this 358 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:30.240 being Becky and Gallentine had on this investigation in so 359 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:33.480 far as hey, we hit role on those cameras, something's 360 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:36.720 got to happen, right, Like she feels pressure to produce results, 361 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:40.119 but she has you know, her conviction and stuff. She 362 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:43.200 will not like there is nothing fake, nothing like that. 363 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:45.319 Like she's gonna do what she's gonna do, and she's 364 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:48.240 gonna do it the way she thinks it needs to 365 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:51.039 be done. Yeah, hell or high water, and be damned 366 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.039 if the footage is good or not, which I do 367 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:56.480 fully received, And so that's just part of it. Like 368 00:19:56.519 --> 00:19:58.960 I want people to come away with knowing like the 369 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:02.559 authenticity I think of the people in the film and 370 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:03.440 the film itself. 371 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:08.799 Yeah, that that That's That's what came across. And that 372 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:11.000 was kind of what I was going to ask you. 373 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:14.000 Was the other question I want to ask you. I 374 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:16.920 want that I'll get to next is going to be about, uh, 375 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:19.880 sort of what resonates with you in terms of UFO's 376 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:22.240 big foot in paranormal. But for this first question, I'd 377 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:25.200 like to go to how you selected each of these 378 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:27.880 team members and and why you picked each one. 379 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:33.799 We actually relied on on the lead investigator, Becky Anne Gallentine. 380 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:40.039 She had said, hey, I've got you know, like a medium, 381 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:43.440 I've got another paranormal investigator that that can help out. 382 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:48.759 And so again Chris and I we went into it. 383 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:50.599 We were thinking there was going to be three p 384 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:54.559 like three people on camera, three investigators. We get to 385 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:58.079 the the Black Horse Tavern in Brownsville and we got 386 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:02.119 six people there, like yeah, wow, all right, well I'm 387 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.680 glad we got enough mics with us. Yeah, thankfully we 388 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:09.880 brought extra and uh so, yeah, it was just we 389 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:13.119 just yeah, there was no selection on our part other 390 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:16.839 than Becky. We had worked with her on our films 391 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:21.279 Ghosts in the Graveyard Pure Pandemonium, which was a paranormal 392 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:25.079 investigation of the ghost town of Pandemonium. It was at 393 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:29.720 the Cemetery of Pandemonium, Pandemonium, Pennsylvania, down in the middle 394 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:32.759 of nowhere. I mean, there's no towns or buildings around, 395 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:34.599 a couple like foundations, you know, out in the middle 396 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:37.279 of the mountains. But we did that, and then we 397 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:42.920 worked with her doing The Ghost of Grand Midway, which 398 00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:47.559 was investigating this haunted man what would you call it, 399 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:50.400 Chris Haunted Hotel, but the Grand Midway Hotel. But it 400 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:54.319 was like the Andy Warhol Art Collectives got the world's 401 00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:57.440 largest Ouiji board up on the roof, like it's in 402 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:00.720 the Guinness World Record Flat. So yeah, we just worked 403 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.160 with her. She's always been a pleasure to work with 404 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:07.680 and we always appreciate, Yeah, her just being authentic and 405 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:12.359 herself and not trying to ham stuff up. So it's like, oh, dude, 406 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:15.119 if we really get something that's wild, like, dude, this 407 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:17.759 is sick, Like this is really wild. And it's always 408 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:23.160 interesting for Chris, as mentioned, he's like the very skeptic, 409 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:25.160 you know, he's the largest skepticure out of the group, 410 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:28.640 and so it's always cool when he gets these weird 411 00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:31.599 gut feelings and stuff because man, I really can't explain 412 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:37.079 what just happened right there. Yeah, but yeah, we trust him. Becky, 413 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:37.680 she does great. 414 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:41.599 Yeah, she whatever it is, whatever that is on that 415 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:44.759 on screen presence, Becky has that. I just want to 416 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:48.079 say before I pass it to court Miss Jessica, I 417 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:51.359 see you have some questions. We are going to get 418 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:53.480 to those. I have starred them, and I want to 419 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:55.759 say to britt Gal, this is not a horror movie. 420 00:22:56.319 --> 00:23:00.279 This is a documentary, a paranormal investigation and is done 421 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:05.880 extremely well with really legit investigators. But we are going 422 00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:08.839 to get those, but we can't go no further until 423 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:13.920 we turn it over to our Pennsylvania home girl, Courtney connected. 424 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:19.039 Hey, I love the mention of Gettysburg, you guys, because 425 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:21.920 I got to tell you from being from Tankanic, Pennsylvania, 426 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:25.920 which is you know, it's up north. It's about an hour, 427 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:29.799 you know, maybe an hour and a half north of Gettysburg. 428 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:32.359 I have friends that actually go down to Gettysburg to 429 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:35.279 like the gettys Burg Fair and they do, you know, 430 00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:37.440 psychic stuff, and they tell me all about it. So 431 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:41.440 I'm just loving all these small town connections. It's really cool. 432 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:44.799 So everybody's already asked all my like topless questions, so 433 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:47.759 I'm going to try to like bring my question into 434 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:51.640 a whole integrated thing because some new things are coming 435 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:54.799 to mind as you're talking. But the thing that stood 436 00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:57.960 out to me the most was the Black Horse Tavern 437 00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:02.759 and its effect on everybody, not only the investigators and 438 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:08.119 the mediums. You know, Seth his reaction to everything was 439 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:11.599 incredibly powerful. You could tell he was being affected by something. 440 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:15.079 But it really was YouTube. It was the filmmakers being 441 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:19.799 brought into the discussion around the storyline, kind of not 442 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:24.119 appearing having to get your hands in there questioning things 443 00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:26.960 as you're going through this process, right, and you've been 444 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:30.079 through it before, so your experience this wasn't new to you, 445 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.119 So I have to ask you, first of all, have 446 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.440 you ever seen Charlie Kaufman's adaptation the movie adaptation? 447 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:39.920 Okay, so you know the scene. 448 00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:43.359 Where they're like grappling with bringing themselves into right yeah? 449 00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:45.799 Yeah, yeah, the writing. 450 00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:46.559 And they're these brothers. 451 00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:49.279 So that's like right now, I'm like thinking of YouTube 452 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:52.480 as like the brothers and adaptation, who are questioning the 453 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:53.839 existential value. 454 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:55.160 Of bringing yourselves into the script. 455 00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:58.599 So that's pretty funny because you grapp it with that, 456 00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:01.400 you already talked about it. I don't need to revisit it, 457 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.440 but that's how I'm seeing you right now. But the 458 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:08.039 problem with it was that you guys were affected, right 459 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:12.279 You were affected, Your relationship was affected, your decision making, 460 00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:15.279 I think it's fair to say, was affected on site 461 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:17.440 while you were filming, and you showed that, and you 462 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:18.319 chose to show it. 463 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:20.000 I thought that was a powerful moment. 464 00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:21.920 So the thing I wanted to ask, which I'm sure 465 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:25.160 the audience members want to know, is like, how you 466 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:29.240 guys detangled from that, right from leaving the Black Horse Tavern, 467 00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:31.440 how you cleansed yourself. 468 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:33.039 Whatever you did. I know that you know about skin 469 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:34.400 Walker and hitchhikers. 470 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:37.319 So I just wanted to ask, when you guys departed 471 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:42.119 from these various locations, did you feel like you were 472 00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:44.400 affected by it and you couldn't shake it, Like you 473 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.240 couldn't shake the effect of what you felt at the 474 00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:49.359 black Horse Tavern when you went home at night. 475 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.480 That's a hard question, honestly, because we were definitely affected 476 00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:56.559 just from the whole experience. 477 00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:59.039 So we filmed. 478 00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:05.440 The NonStop, like we were exhausted, we were emotionally dreamed. 479 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.400 The ride home, you know that frustrations and stuff were 480 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:13.759 still there. I just Tyler and I you know, it 481 00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:15.119 was like a five or six hour drive. 482 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:18.599 I think we just talked the whole time, and you know, 483 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:20.480 like what did we what? What just happened? 484 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:24.319 And I don't know if that was, you know, from 485 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:27.000 what we experienced at the black Horse Tavern or just 486 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:32.880 an effective of filming NonStop with everyone and everyone's frustrations 487 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:37.400 and stuff bubbling over. But either way, and I'll say 488 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.920 this like a skeptic person, like it left a lasting 489 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:45.279 effect on me for sure, a little scar maybe or something. 490 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:49.640 But I'm so proud of the film. I think it's 491 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:53.000 Tyler and I's, you know, best film we've put out, 492 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:59.279 and you know it's to me, it's just I have 493 00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:01.960 to remind my elf, like this is just Tyler and 494 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:03.680 I doing everything. Like when we got there, there were 495 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:05.680 six people, and you know, we don't have we didn't 496 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:07.559 have a sound guy. We don't have We got me 497 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.960 and Tyler two cameras or maybe three, but that third one, 498 00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.880 no one's been to be watching it. So it's just 499 00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:14.279 sitting there on sticks, do you know what I mean? 500 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:17.559 And we're running around trying to get stuff while six 501 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:20.480 people are kind of commanding what's happening, and it's just 502 00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:23.440 so overwhelming. So when I go back and I watch 503 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:25.160 the film, now, I'm like, man, this is this is 504 00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:25.960 actually really good. 505 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:27.200 We should be proud. 506 00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.240 The other thing I wanted to ask you, Tyler, just 507 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.640 hang on one second. The other thing, Yeah, now you 508 00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:35.240 can answer this too when you get into your portion. 509 00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:39.240 But did you guys see anomalist stuff that interacted with 510 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:39.880 your equipment? 511 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:41.559 That was the other thing I wanted to ask you. 512 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:45.920 Any disruptions or any problems filming anything that you you 513 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.720 felt disrupted your actual filming equipment. 514 00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:58.359 So we had yeah, we had some. We had some 515 00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:01.759 battery issues occasionally were issues like oh, this thing is 516 00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:04.039 fully charged. We put it in the camera and you know, 517 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:09.240 it dies quickly. Not a ton of stuff with with 518 00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:13.440 our personal equipment being affected. I know, there was some 519 00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:15.720 weird stuff where like I don't know what was going on, 520 00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:19.160 maybe just the nature and the spirits of the town. 521 00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:22.480 But like I spent like fifteen twenty minutes filming all 522 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.319 these dope drone shots of the wrong house. We're out 523 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:32.000 the wrong course tavern and like little I'm the house sided, 524 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:33.960 Like I mean like I was in there. I mean 525 00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:36.920 I was there all day and I just spent yeah, 526 00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:40.319 fifteen twenty minutes just filming sick, sick b roll shots 527 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:41.599 of the wrong place. 528 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.000 And it was we went to the wrong place so 529 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:45.680 many times we went. 530 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:47.960 To the we went in they're completely different houses and 531 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:49.480 it's not like a cookie cutter, and it was like 532 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:51.440 a and we just kept going to the wrong house. 533 00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:52.359 It was so bizarre. 534 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.160 Yeah, And as far as your your earlier question about 535 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:58.119 like how how do you feel like when you're leaving, Like, yeah, 536 00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:01.880 Chris and I met, You're you're you're really drained, but 537 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:06.000 at the same time you're so excited for what you 538 00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:09.039 just you know, what you know you captured. We knew 539 00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:14.279 we had something because the end was just epic and 540 00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.400 we couldn't explain it. And then two man, we we 541 00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.799 literally love filmmaking so much, Chris, You remember the last 542 00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.680 hour and a half we're talking, all right, we got 543 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:27.880 to film a let's film a UFO doc about investigating 544 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:33.640 nuclears for it and everything out like we're we just 545 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:38.799 filmed you know this, you know three four day journey 546 00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:45.039 which again, dude, Chris and I were filming from whatever 547 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:47.519 eight a m. Till two am. I mean, not the 548 00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.079 entire time. We got to move from location to location. 549 00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.880 We get other interviews. We happen to stumble upon people 550 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:58.799 like the Rocky Brosher, the guy from the Nemicole and 551 00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:03.000 Castle and the the Historical Society, et cetera. It's like, oh, dude, 552 00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.559 but he wasn't on our radar. Like we're there in 553 00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:10.759 town and we bump into him and get his interview. Well, 554 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:13.200 we bump into another guy who's right by our airbnb. 555 00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:15.839 Him and his dad had experiences. We interview them. We 556 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:17.880 get connected to Rocky for share. It's like, dude, this 557 00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:20.079 is crazy. If we came in with this plan, we 558 00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:23.599 wouldn't we wouldn't have gotten anything anything like it. So 559 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:27.240 it's just really awesome, man that I don't know, we 560 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:29.480 just have faith, like, oh, we make sure we got 561 00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.160 enough stuff to do that we can get merry. But 562 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:36.480 we always keep our eyes and hearts open to like God, dude, 563 00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:40.680 like if stuff comes up that's interesting, let's go that too. 564 00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:42.240 We'll figure out what to do with it. 565 00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.480 Yeah, I mean it was really really exciting to watch. 566 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.160 I mean, the vibe there are lots of characters in 567 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.680 this documentary. You know, the city of Brownsville itself has 568 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:01.720 it's clearly its own vibe. In Pittsburg, it's just incredible landscape, 569 00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:05.000 rich history. It feels like there's a mystery just kind 570 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.920 of waiting around every corner. Every house is a little 571 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:08.519 bit different. 572 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:09.960 They're old enough to. 573 00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:14.119 Where they've got these legacies, legacy families, legacy stories. And 574 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.200 then you know, from my perspective, I have not watched, 575 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.680 you know, a ton of paralanormal documentaries, but the ones 576 00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.240 that I have seen didn't do the kind of work 577 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.839 that you guys did to showcase the investigation team, and 578 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.160 I found that to be really the most interesting aspect 579 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:34.079 of the entire documentary is just these personalities and how 580 00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:35.920 and the fact that you guys were just two of 581 00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:38.799 you doing the filming is really mind boggling. We look 582 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:40.559 at some of these shots and how they were happening 583 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.119 kind of simultaneously different places. 584 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:43.200 It's really amazing work. 585 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:47.519 But the kind of skill set that this team had 586 00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.240 and how the decisions were made to kind of pair 587 00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:52.720 a couple of folks up and then mix up the 588 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:55.279 pairings and then you know, do certain kinds of tests 589 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.400 and do other kinds of tests. I mean, honestly, it 590 00:31:57.440 --> 00:31:59.279 looked like they had all been doing this together for 591 00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:01.319 a really long time, but the way you're describing it, 592 00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:02.240 it's almost like they just. 593 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.720 Got thrown together on the day that you showed up. 594 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.880 So what you know, if you could speak to the 595 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:12.039 human component of this right that that that there are 596 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:17.680 their personalities there and their intentions and a lot of 597 00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:21.680 the paranormal experience seems to be tied up in that 598 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:22.720 human energy. 599 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:25.559 It's not just about whether they're dead or alive. 600 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.200 It's just that that the human energy period. And so 601 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.599 what was it like kind of just being present with 602 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.920 this group of really interesting folks as they're striving to 603 00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:36.759 try to tease out these mysteries that are occurring in 604 00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:37.160 the town. 605 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.240 I'll start with you, Chris, courageous folks. 606 00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:43.039 Yeah, I mean you're. 607 00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:46.480 Coming about you don't watch a lot of like paranormal documentaries, 608 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:51.319 when neither do we honestly like like not the like 609 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.200 put things down. But our movies aren't like the Zach 610 00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:58.359 Baggan stuff or anything where it's like very dramatic and 611 00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:02.680 very exciting all the time because we don't. I'm not 612 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.160 saying they fake anything, but we don't. Like we film 613 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:08.759 what we film and what happens, and real life isn't 614 00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:13.759 always dramatic every three seconds. And so yeah, our movies 615 00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:16.359 tend to focus a lot on the people in them 616 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:19.000 more than just the ghosts that we're trying to hunt. 617 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:23.680 But as far as like the group dynamic, you know, 618 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:26.920 I think the way these things operate the best is 619 00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.240 when you have a leader. And Becky was the leader, 620 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.079 and she kind of came in with a plan for 621 00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:37.559 each location. And that's where a lot of the drama 622 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:42.720 came from too, because you would have investigators searching a 623 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.799 room or investigating a room and not really finding anything. 624 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:51.000 But then you know, a medium would go in there 625 00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:55.720 and detect something and I remember on the first night 626 00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:58.559 at the Black Horse Tavern, I was in the attic 627 00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:02.720 with Jewels and Viva and they were doing an st 628 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.480 session and I was filming, and it was very creepy 629 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:09.360 because we heard noises and pretty sure it's in the 630 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:11.440 movie where it was like a bang, and Vivas like, 631 00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:13.760 what the F was that? And I was like, I 632 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:15.639 don't know what that was, but I definitely heard it, 633 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:18.760 and everybody else was three stories down in the basement. 634 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:24.679 So then when we go and kind of reconnect after 635 00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:27.320 that first night, and Becky kind of shut down the 636 00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:30.920 location saying like, Eah, there's nothing really happening here. Meanwhile, I, 637 00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.920 the skeptic guy, was like creeped out. I heard stuff. 638 00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:39.920 The mediums are commenting on things, and that's where the 639 00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:42.599 frustration started to happen, because Tyler and I are like, 640 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.000 wait a second, we just filmed what I thought was 641 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:48.199 some amazing stuff for the last five hours and our 642 00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:51.280 lead here saying like, no, not really, but I think 643 00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.480 it all starts to make sense by the end of 644 00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:57.000 the film, in the way that this town and the 645 00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.599 places we went and the dynamics of the people everything 646 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.519 kind of was maybe a little bit manipulated by the 647 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:06.840 whole situation like a push, a discord as it were. 648 00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:10.360 But by the end it felt like we all came 649 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:11.320 back together in a way. 650 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:15.039 So don't I don't know, you know, six people's a 651 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:20.039 lot of personality all smashed together, who may, like you, 652 00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:24.239 haven't all worked together before, so that that breeds all 653 00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.400 kinds of things, you know what I mean. So Tyler 654 00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:30.800 and I were just there trying to survive, and yeah, 655 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:32.599 it was an experience. 656 00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:34.800 And it never felt forced. I mean, it never felt 657 00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:39.280 like there was this really challenging effort to get everybody 658 00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.840 working together, and it felt very seamless. So that's a 659 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.480 kudos to Becky, but also just the kind of work 660 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.840 that you guys put into this setting it all up, 661 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.360 you know, Tyler, when it comes to the you know, 662 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.880 the locations themselves. I mean, you guys bounced around us 663 00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:57.679 in different spots, and you know, like like Chris talking 664 00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.039 about you kind of felt like you were hot and 665 00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:00.719 then you were all of a sudden this other place 666 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:01.920 and that kind of felt cold. 667 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:04.920 And that came through a lot. You know, where you 668 00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:06.960 wanted to be and where. 669 00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.880 You thought the action was going to take place. Did 670 00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:11.320 the do you did you feel like you were in 671 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:14.000 a way kind of just led through this production like 672 00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:15.559 it like you had a plan but then to just 673 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:18.440 kind of threw throw out the window and the production 674 00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:20.840 took over, the locations took over, and you were kind 675 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.719 of following their lead. How do you kind of process 676 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.440 that as you're maybe running up against a wall there 677 00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:27.960 and not quite getting what you thought you were going 678 00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:29.199 to get. 679 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.000 Yeah, it all depends on on the you know, on 680 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:37.800 the on the documentary or the or the like the 681 00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.760 docu series. Sometimes, like with the historically hunta with Amy Bruney, 682 00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.000 she put her her faith in us to like, go 683 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:48.119 I trust that these guys can can get me a 684 00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.320 number of locations. And dude, Chris, well, we go to 685 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:54.679 like twenty over seven days. I mean it was like ridiculous. 686 00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:58.800 I mean it's not so I love doing that reaching 687 00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:00.840 out in content, but for this and we didn't really 688 00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:05.239 we trusted in Becky. We got there. There were some 689 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.599 questions about if we could get into some places. So 690 00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:11.639 Chris and I we were kind of really pushing for stuff. 691 00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:13.679 It was like, oh, I can maybe get us into 692 00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:18.639 the Brisher House, which is the former house of the 693 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:24.840 famous astronomer John A. Brescher, who created the telescope. But yeah, 694 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:26.639 so I think that one was maybe like Chris and 695 00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:28.679 I had to like we're like, oh yeah, yeah, like 696 00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.400 we weren't sure if we were getting in. It's like okay, 697 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:32.320 now like we'll step in. We're getting We're like, we'll 698 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:33.840 do whatever we can to get in here. And then 699 00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:38.679 we ended up getting in and and what even you know, again, 700 00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:47.239 it was interesting. We investigate. They investigated, Uh, it was 701 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.239 called Maria's Lover's House, which was the set or house 702 00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.960 used in an old what was it like eighties movie, 703 00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:58.320 Chris eighties French movie or something like that, And so 704 00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:02.280 that one, yeah, wasn't on our radar. They ended up 705 00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.519 the team of paranormal investigators ended up booking that Airbnb 706 00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.639 just because they thought it was cool. And then it 707 00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.440 turns out they're getting reports from the owner saying, hey, 708 00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:18.239 just to heads up, there's been some you know, reports 709 00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.840 of these hauntings or paranormal active It's like, wait, what 710 00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.320 are you serious? We out of all the places we 711 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:28.559 picked or they picked to stay. So, yeah, it's it's 712 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.159 always kind of a toss up between sometimes yeah, we 713 00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.639 have this stuff locked in. Sometimes we don't. But in 714 00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:36.599 our guts we're like, bro, we know there's more. And 715 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.880 so when we heard, you know, the one gentleman Rocky 716 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.480 Brasher mentioned, hey, this used to be called I think 717 00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.320 it was the City of Churches because there was like 718 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:49.159 twelve different denominations. It's like, ob bro, we're spending an hour, 719 00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.239 we're cruising around, we're getting some be roll of churches, 720 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:56.480 getting the drone up, etc. Then later at the Bushier house, 721 00:38:56.480 --> 00:39:00.000 it's like, oh, I don't want to give stuff away, 722 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.480 but somebody might see something above a church steeple Andy. 723 00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:04.880 It's just like, ah, dude, all these cool dope connections 724 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:08.920 that yeah, we ninety nine point nine percent we couldn't 725 00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.960 plan for, you know, any better than it played out. 726 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.320 Yeah, I mean, I would say if we are going 727 00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.280 to a town ahead of time or anywhere, we always 728 00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:21.440 say have try and get locations that we think have 729 00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:26.000 a history of something paranormal, haunting, something happening there, as 730 00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:28.800 opposed to just a place that no one has ever 731 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.679 you know, experienced anything. Because you know, we're not trying 732 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:34.480 to set ourselves up for failure. We want to obviously 733 00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:38.719 capture something and the likelihood of past experiences there obviously 734 00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:41.760 gives us, you know, a higher chance of finding something. 735 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.719 Yeah, it felt incredibly authentic, So kudos on that. 736 00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:51.239 Real quick yo ed Nathan. Dude, it fills our hearts 737 00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.280 with so much joy when you mentioned just like, oh 738 00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:58.480 the shots look smooth, they're cinematic or all the framing up, 739 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.800 Like dude, we I don't know for two guys that 740 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:05.400 didn't go to you know, filmmaking school or anything like that, right, 741 00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:09.039 we just started on our cell phones. No, we were 742 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:11.559 editing it on our cell phones. And okay, well let's 743 00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:13.800 buy a camera. Okay, let's get a drone. Oh, let's 744 00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:17.719 get our our remote pilot's license so we can fly it, 745 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:20.199 you know, commercially to use and do. Like dude, we 746 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.840 just we just keep going and going. So if anything, 747 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.280 I hope some of your Cabby's out there that are 748 00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:28.800 passionate about something like Ah, dude, if you really like 749 00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:30.679 it and enjoy it, like a dude, go do it 750 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:33.199 a bunch of times, like you'd be surprised. You'll get 751 00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:36.119 better at it, like guaranteed, especially if you like it 752 00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:38.960 and enjoy it. So dude, we always, like my heart, 753 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.239 I almost fall over every time I hear somebody just 754 00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:44.039 mentioned about, like, dude, these these shots are like really 755 00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.079 cool and they look great. It's like, oh, that's what 756 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:48.400 that's what we're trying for. 757 00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.639 Well, I just recently got a new camera, so it 758 00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:52.480 was very inspiring and I'm ready to get out there 759 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.079 and it starts to take ticket some more photos. 760 00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:56.320 So thank you for lighting that fire with me. 761 00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:59.079 Yeah, get a gimble bro if you're doing any video, 762 00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:02.599 get a gimble dook. It'll take your production value from here, 763 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.239 like through the roof. I mean it almost make you know, 764 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:09.559 like if we didn't tell you we weren't. It's two guys. 765 00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:12.239 I think a lot of people would assume, oh, this 766 00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.079 was like a large studio putting this together. This like 767 00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:16.840 it has a ton of money put it into it. 768 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:18.159 It looks phenomenal. 769 00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:19.199 Yeah, I agree. 770 00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.400 That's why you guys are so dope is because you 771 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.119 did make it look like it, like you said, a 772 00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:26.559 production And we're gonna get we have questions in the chat. 773 00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.440 So when Nathan finishes, I'm gonna go to the chat 774 00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.320 and get their question you Nathan, go ahead, No, I'm good. 775 00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:34.000 I was gonna pass it off back to deb but 776 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:35.000 please please take it over. 777 00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:38.039 Yeah. Yeah, cause we got We got folks that got 778 00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:39.920 questions and we don't want to let it. It's like bread, 779 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:41.719 you don't want to get let it get stale. Otherwise 780 00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:43.920 you got to make you know, croutons out of it, 781 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.639 you know what I'm saying. So all right, let's get 782 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:47.599 let's see what we got here. 783 00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:48.480 So let's start out. 784 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:50.760 With Lovely and then I know that our moderator, Miss 785 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:55.119 Jessica and Beezy has some good questions, but amazing panel, 786 00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.559 don't ever get don't you ever get scared? Please share 787 00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:00.840 one of your memories about what you did to protect 788 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:04.400 yourself and your team from Lovely A member, Thank you 789 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.559 for being a member, Home Girl. We appreciate you. 790 00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:12.519 It's seen in the movie, but there was one point 791 00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.599 where we have to go do something and we're you know, 792 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.039 we're told and like, dude, these people were dead serious. 793 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:24.400 They're like Chris, especially you, I know you don't believe this, 794 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:30.480 but you have kids. And when they say this phrase, malcouth, 795 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.639 mal dude, you need to say it three times and 796 00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:36.320 I'm like, Chris, you need to dude. I'm saying that 797 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:40.679 you need to say and we did. So you know, 798 00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:44.719 that's one thing that we've done to help. And I remember, honestly, 799 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:48.920 when I flew out to interview Sue Walker, and again 800 00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:52.159 this is for our documentary Conscious Contact, Full Disclosure, the 801 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:57.960 first one we made. She mentioned, Hey, sometimes when people 802 00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:03.239 leave here the ponte, these extraterrestrials, they tend to be pranksters, 803 00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.159 and they kind of like they'll go and check in 804 00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:09.119 on these people or play little pranks on them. I'm like, okay, cool, 805 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:11.599 you know, yeah, I'd be cool with it. That's fine, 806 00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.440 no big deal, dude, Sure enough. Like some odd things 807 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:18.360 happened when I returned home. My son he hassistic fibrosis. 808 00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:21.760 There's this very special medication he takes, a dude, and 809 00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.639 with the CF, he's healthy as a horse. Bro His 810 00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:26.199 long function one hundred and forty percent of what it 811 00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.320 should be for a kid is height and weight without CF, 812 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:33.039 so he's like a beast, a miracle. It's insane. But dude, 813 00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:35.559 his medication like disappeared three nights in a row. There 814 00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.320 was like instances of like, oh, all the doors whatever, 815 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.079 We're in the living room, like a bag, a plastic 816 00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:45.360 bag moves and there's like never any dreat dude. There 817 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:50.000 was just a number of things. There was one more 818 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.800 and I can't recall it right now. But I was like, dude, 819 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.360 I'll I'll be darned, Chris, I can't explain this. And 820 00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:59.400 I even contacted Sue and mentioned Sue, these are some 821 00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:03.280 weird things that happened since I returned home, and she 822 00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:05.519 She's like, hey, I'll say something to PONTI like, hey, 823 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:10.239 you know, please please stop just you know, teasing them, 824 00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:12.960 even though you mean no harm. And sure enough, I mean, 825 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:16.159 the stuff then stopped. But it was weird. I couldn't 826 00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:18.559 explain it. You know. 827 00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:21.239 I know Nathan's answer to this one. Have you ever 828 00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:25.000 experienced something he couldn't just you just couldn't explain. And 829 00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:27.599 I think for him it would be why he decided 830 00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:29.400 to do a show with me. I think he's still 831 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.280 trying to figure that out. And a half years later, Nathan, 832 00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:34.360 I think it's gonna come to you Sera, though I really. 833 00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:35.639 Do, I'll never be to explain it. 834 00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:40.920 So yeah, all right, Thank you Ken Hathaway from Nottingham, 835 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:46.119 England for becoming a new COB member. We appreciated me 836 00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:52.039 uh and miss uh, Miss Jessica, and Beezy. Our moderator 837 00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.840 from Chicago, Illinois, got a question for you there, Chris, 838 00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:00.320 What was the most prolific encounter you have had that 839 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.719 you couldn't field down to your soul, your whole body. 840 00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:06.039 How did it make you feel in the days after? 841 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:07.800 That's my Chicago accent. 842 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:09.159 Sorry, that was good. That was perfect. 843 00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:11.800 That was really good. We might need if we need, 844 00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:16.480 b roll of a dude from Chicago DJ. Yeah, you 845 00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.320 know what, I got you covered, dere Tyler. 846 00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:21.400 It's not a problem. And I work for nothing. Okay. 847 00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:26.679 To answer the question, though, the end of the film 848 00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.199 was was probably that. I mean, I'm in the shot, 849 00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:34.920 like something happens and they get Tyler's camera pans over 850 00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:36.519 to me and I have a face of like what 851 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.400 it's just stuff lined up so crazy in that basement 852 00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:44.039 at the end of the film, And like I was 853 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:47.039 saying earlier, like when we got in there the because 854 00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.320 I remember distinctly Tyler was saying, like you have to 855 00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:50.960 say malcout. 856 00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:51.760 They came up to me. 857 00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:54.159 It's not in the movie because we weren't rolling cameras, 858 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:55.960 but I remember them saying. 859 00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:57.280 You gotta do this, you gotta do They were so 860 00:45:57.559 --> 00:45:58.239 dead serious. 861 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:02.320 It was like everything was so emotions were so high. 862 00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:04.920 It felt so dramatic at that time. We go down 863 00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.920 in that basement, felt like like soldiers going down like 864 00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:11.119 facing something like because everybody was scared. 865 00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:12.199 By the end of the film. 866 00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:14.960 The only two people that like Becky and Amanda are 867 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:16.719 the ones that went down there, and we're Me and 868 00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:21.360 Tyler go down there, and it was just it was 869 00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:23.000 like there was like electric in the air, like it 870 00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.199 just it felt like I was watching. 871 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:27.800 A movie but I was in it. It was crazy. 872 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:28.679 Can't explain it. 873 00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:32.760 You know, things were said and things happened, and it 874 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.440 was just it was intense. I hope it comes across 875 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:40.440 in the film. I don't think it comes we'll ever 876 00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:43.840 come across as like to me what it was like completely, 877 00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:47.639 But yeah, it was crazy. I did have somebody had 878 00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:50.519 asked earlier, like a scary moment when we when we 879 00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.119 did the film The Grand The Ghosts of Graham Midway, 880 00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:56.840 that building is so big and it was so cold, 881 00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:58.639 and it was like four in the morning or three 882 00:46:58.639 --> 00:46:59.960 in the morning, and I remember I had to go 883 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:02.320 the whole way up to the top level into this 884 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:05.719 room that had like these creepy dolls and there's like big, 885 00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:09.239 oh my big, like the clowns and stuff in the 886 00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:12.800 hall and it was like I didn't experience anything at 887 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:14.840 that moment, but it was the creepiest I like ran 888 00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:15.280 out of there. 889 00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:16.880 I was this is where I'm out. 890 00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:25.639 Man, it's not happening. Not happening. Standing Stones wanted to say, 891 00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.480 you know, they talk about the cold, and so he 892 00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.760 was boiler you know, he would go and fix boilers 893 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.719 and burners and he kneeling down by the oil tanks. 894 00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.639 I mean, he said he's been in thousands of homes 895 00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:39.880 and he feels like a lot of them were haunted. 896 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:41.880 And you say, hey, man, I'm just here to fix 897 00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:46.400 the burner. You know, I'm not the rules of engagement. 898 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:50.800 I am not a legal target here. So Jessica and 899 00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:55.320 Beezy wants to know. Do different mediums specialize in different 900 00:47:55.400 --> 00:48:00.920 cate degrees, as they say in England, go ahead to 901 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.440 anyone hila question. 902 00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:06.360 I honestly, Chris and I we don't. We wouldn't know 903 00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:11.039 enough about it. I'm like, yeah, that says yeah, uh, 904 00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:12.760 we just personally don't. 905 00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.119 They They seem to be gifted in different ways, that's 906 00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:18.440 what you know. I would say they're gifted in different ways. 907 00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:20.920 And there's there's uh, you know, some that use the 908 00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:22.719 tarot cards and stuff like that. 909 00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:25.480 To pool stuff. 910 00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:30.079 Others that just have intuitions, you know, Others that that 911 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:34.719 feel the need to draw and uh see see things 912 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:38.000 ahead of time like that. It's interesting. They're all different. 913 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.280 Seth in this movie, man, he it's not in the 914 00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:44.599 there's a moment in the movie where he says, what 915 00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:47.480 did you say? And I'm like, I didn't say anything, 916 00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.079 and and they're like, he didn't say anything. He told 917 00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.320 me later what he thought I said, and it was 918 00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:55.360 I was like, I would never say that, Seth, But 919 00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.320 that's what he had heard in the moment. And do 920 00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:59.920 if you see that footage of him saying what did 921 00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:03.119 you say? There's no faking that that guy was messed 922 00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:04.440 up at that moment like he was. 923 00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:06.880 He was to his limits. 924 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:10.920 So, yeah, you guys, it was really cool that you 925 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:14.360 guys gave them latitude to be able to you know, 926 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.239 because I'm sure there are probably production staffs out there 927 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.159 that kind of can manhandle the talent a little bit 928 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.079 and you know, get and you guys allow them that 929 00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:26.480 sort of space to be able to say things when 930 00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:30.239 they felt something, into be in command of certain moments 931 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.840 where they should be in command and not you, And 932 00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.920 I thought that was really cool. But we will get 933 00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:38.599 back to stuff in the chat, but we got to 934 00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:41.760 get to my homegirl because her back hurts and she 935 00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:44.000 was not going to miss the show. We're talking about debs. 936 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:46.320 Okay. 937 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:51.679 So I was thinking about the Blair Witch proropect a 938 00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.960 little bit when I've watched this documentary because of the 939 00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:59.440 way the tensions built up. But and I wanted to 940 00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:05.079 bring that up because there's another aspect, another character that 941 00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:09.280 hasn't really been emphasized, and that was the entire town 942 00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:13.320 was a character like that's the entire town had a 943 00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:17.880 lot of paranormal energy, right and it's and they even 944 00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:21.400 alluded to it at one point that maybe it's all connected. 945 00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:28.760 So my question is when you're facing something like that, 946 00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:32.360 and when people that you're filming are telling you that 947 00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:36.679 there's not chess spirits, there's other things. And I'm not 948 00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.320 going to specify what those other things are. I want 949 00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:43.599 people to watch the film. Doesn't it make you want 950 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:46.840 to go in and do some deep research so you're 951 00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:50.079 prepared before you're filming, Like, doesn't that make you turn 952 00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:53.599 around and go, you know what, maybe we cannot just 953 00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:57.360 be observers here, maybe we really need to know what's 954 00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.199 going on before we step into this. 955 00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:05.119 Yeah, I mean, yeah, we didn't do that obviously with 956 00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:10.719 this film. But the town itself, like it is, it 957 00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:12.519 is a really interesting place because it's like an old 958 00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:16.400 rust belt town that's kind of depressed at this point. 959 00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:20.440 Like this beautiful area, but the town is definitely feeling 960 00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:22.920 like the economic impact of it all. And I just 961 00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:27.480 remember there's like a huge, huge bridge to cross the 962 00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:29.599 I'm not gonna say, I think it's like the Mana 963 00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:33.719 he Gle River, Manonga Halo Manonga Hala River. 964 00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:34.119 And I. 965 00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:37.239 Hate hell of it. 966 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:40.800 I hate heights and I hate bridges, and so going 967 00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:43.599 just going into the town, like my anxiety was through 968 00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.000 the roof. But then when we filmed there the whole time, 969 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:47.599 there's like a malaise over the whole town. It was 970 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:51.760 all dreary and kind of, you know, a little bleak 971 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:57.679 while filming. But as far as like looking into the 972 00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:00.320 history and stuff, we didn't really do too much to that. 973 00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:03.280 We allowed the we we had set up interviews with 974 00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:06.360 historians and stuff like that who we thought would have 975 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:09.719 way more information than we would be able to find. 976 00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:18.840 And I guess that's my question. Now, So guys, where 977 00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:21.719 did you bill it at night? Did you bill it 978 00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:26.360 near the location? And if so, like what were the 979 00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:30.039 dynamics of the team at night or did everybody kind 980 00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:32.599 of just go back to the hotel and just crash 981 00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:36.280 because they were exhausted, or were there any get togethers 982 00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:38.360 where you guys would talk about the day's events and 983 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:38.920 so forth. 984 00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:44.599 Good you wan answer that, Tyler, go ahead. 985 00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:51.119 Sure, yeah, yeah, no, the team would go back to 986 00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:54.840 airbab or there were two Jules Dominic I believe they 987 00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.679 were traveling in from Philly, I'm sorry, from Pittsburgh, which 988 00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:02.599 was like an hour drive. Uh so, God bless them, dude. 989 00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:06.199 They were you know, they're at eight, nine, ten am 990 00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:09.519 in the morning, filming till midnight, driving an hour back 991 00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:12.880 at Pittsburgh getting it, you know, four hours of sleep 992 00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:19.320 driving back, Like, dude, everybody in the film, Becky and Gallentine, 993 00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:30.440 Amanda Paulson, h Viva, Melissa, I believe, Seth Browder, Jules 994 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:36.639 Nolan and Dominic La Gamba dude, everybody, dude, they were 995 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.719 just amazing. Man Like, nobody complained and there was like 996 00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:48.119 plenty of stuff to like complain about. I complained, Chris 997 00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:52.519 gets yeah, Chris gets hangry. Chris gets pretty angry. So 998 00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:58.599 when I'm filming for about twelve dude, I run on adrenaline, caffeine, nicotine. 999 00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:02.840 I'm going But Chris, yeah, he I'm like, oh, I'll 1000 00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:05.440 eat when we're dead, like we got we can't stop filming. 1001 00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:07.679 But Chris, yeah, he gets a little touchy. But yeah. No, 1002 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:14.480 everybody was like man above and beyond contributing their skill 1003 00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:17.440 set to the making of Surrounded by Spirits. 1004 00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:21.840 That that is so cool, man. I can imagine like 1005 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:26.119 if those guys you know, got together for dinner, that 1006 00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:29.000 would like I would want to like be seated in 1007 00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:32.239 the table, like around their table, like not to be 1008 00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:35.000 at the table and and and and and like break 1009 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.159 their vibe. But I would want to be sitting like 1010 00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:40.119 right there kind of like between listening. That would be 1011 00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:44.800 really really cool man, because that that I really if 1012 00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:47.719 Becky is the one that picked them, I really I 1013 00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:50.960 really thought they were all brilliant. You know, you had 1014 00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:56.719 the young lady with the tarot cards. Uh. I just 1015 00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:58.400 thought like it was a great colluction. You had the 1016 00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:01.840 other young lady that was used and the headphones with 1017 00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:05.280 the is that like the Spirit Box, a newer version 1018 00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:06.440 of the Spirit Box. 1019 00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:10.519 Yep, yeah, this method, yeah, or she has her own 1020 00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:13.320 slight variation of it called the l Method I believe. 1021 00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:17.519 And that was a yeah, I hope. 1022 00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:20.119 Yeah again on another and another movie. 1023 00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:23.880 Man, Yeah, we actually worked with again. Yeah. 1024 00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:27.599 On Amanda is a co investigator on the Amy Bruney 1025 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:32.079 series The Historically Haunted with Amy Berney, So she's in that. 1026 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:36.159 That's a six part mini series to be determined where 1027 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:39.719 it will be released, but hopefully sometime in the near future. 1028 00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:43.440 And and before I pass it over to my curly 1029 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:47.239 haired co host, give me your can you guys? I 1030 00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:50.480 would like both Chris and Tyler to go through UFO's 1031 00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:54.920 big Foot pairanormal and your kind of what you like, 1032 00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:59.800 what resonates with you or doesn't resonate with you of 1033 00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:03.840 the those three perhaps interconnected phenomena, but can you address 1034 00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:05.719 each one of those place each of you. 1035 00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:09.559 So like kind of what we think about them? Sure, 1036 00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:14.199 UFOs are super interesting to me because I, even being 1037 00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.679 the skeptic that I am, I don't there's no way 1038 00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:20.000 that there is an other life out there, and so 1039 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:23.760 I am just drawn to hearing people who are legitimate 1040 00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:27.599 with their personal experiences. 1041 00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:28.360 I love to hear it. 1042 00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.000 And what really is interesting to me is when many 1043 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:36.599 different people across the world have experiences and they're telling 1044 00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.440 their personal experience and then you hear something that someone 1045 00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:41.840 else said as well, and you start to see the 1046 00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:44.000 patterns there and it's like, Okay, maybe there's something to that. 1047 00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:49.159 Sasquatch for me is super fun of an idea and 1048 00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:55.159 you know, looking at like people don't have an understanding 1049 00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:57.760 of how vast some of these forests are and how 1050 00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.599 there could possibly be something else in those that hasn't 1051 00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:02.480 been seen yet. So there is that element to me. 1052 00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:05.199 But just as like a concept, I think is just 1053 00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:06.199 super interesting and. 1054 00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:06.760 Kind of fun. 1055 00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:11.519 The ghost stuff I don't know anymore. Like when you 1056 00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:14.039 would have told me asked me before, I'd be like, ah, 1057 00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:17.519 I don't know, it's more like entertainment. But now having 1058 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:20.440 done this a bunch of times, there's definitely something else 1059 00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:27.400 to it. And maybe it's not the like the movie 1060 00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:29.719 sense of a ghost that you'd see like a haunting 1061 00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.559 like so in your face, but but there's definitely have 1062 00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:37.360 been experiences now where I come away with my emotions 1063 00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:40.960 being affected and changed and just something about the energy 1064 00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:44.280 of those locations or something like that, or the experiences 1065 00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:46.239 I had there. And then of course, you know, we've 1066 00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:50.039 have had things show on camera and sounds and stuff 1067 00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:52.960 like that that are also uh, you. 1068 00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:53.760 Know, line up. 1069 00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:56.679 Either they lined up perfectly for the what was happening, 1070 00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:00.840 or it was something else. So that's kind of my 1071 00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:02.119 thoughts on all those things. 1072 00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:06.760 Yeah, And for me, I'm just I've always been very 1073 00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:09.480 open minded. Man. The universe is a big place, dude, 1074 00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:12.599 And like if you would have told somebody one hundred 1075 00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.000 years ago, oh, you'll have access to all the information 1076 00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:16.880 of the world on this little device in the palm 1077 00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:18.480 of your hand, and you'll be able to create your 1078 00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:22.679 own shows called Call Calling All Beings, and you'll have 1079 00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:26.039 you'll have cabbies, bro, which look like the most insane 1080 00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:29.119 fans I've ever seen. Because your chat feed has been 1081 00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:32.360 blowing up this entire time. Like, dude, who would have 1082 00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:36.840 ever thought we could do that in a hundred years. So, gosh, dude, 1083 00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:40.599 another one hundred, two hundred, three hundred years. Man, who's 1084 00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:44.039 to say what we'll be doing, what kind of technology 1085 00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:47.440 will be available. So it's like as far as aliens go, huh, 1086 00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:50.159 if some other intelligent life happened to evolve at a 1087 00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:54.519 similar trajectory and they started just three hundred years before us, Dude, 1088 00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:58.119 I wouldn't be surprised if there's somebody visiting us and 1089 00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:02.480 maybe just monitoring us. We do tons of scientific studies 1090 00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:06.599 on uncontacted tribes, right like, we won't we won't contact them. 1091 00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:08.880 But dude, they're looking up seeing airplanes and stuff, saying, 1092 00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:12.039 what how is that possible? We can't fly. We don't 1093 00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:16.199 have wings, right, and herds of feathers not metal, they don't. 1094 00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:19.000 So dude, I love it all. And so it's been 1095 00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:22.000 a cool ride watching Chris like when he answers like 1096 00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:24.599 your types of questions like this, just how far he's 1097 00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:28.719 come and just being open minded to these types of things. 1098 00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:31.400 And man, I'll give you another as far. I'll cover 1099 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:34.679 well the Sasquatch and your When I was out filming 1100 00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:38.719 Secrets of the Sasquatch, I was like camping in I 1101 00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:41.440 can't remember the state forest right now, but I'm just 1102 00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:44.840 camping in the state forest, like, yeah, we'll see what happens. 1103 00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:48.960 And sure enough, like I see a UFO couldn't explain it. 1104 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:50.960 I don't know. Moving from right to left and then 1105 00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.599 it stopped and like went straight down. You knows, there 1106 00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:56.599 could be like some some prosaic explanation for it, but 1107 00:59:57.239 --> 00:59:59.719 at the time, it was like twenty degrees out. I'm like, dude, 1108 00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:01.800 I've got to build a fire. I'm going to die, 1109 01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:05.880 So I couldn't like commit too much brain power to yeah, 1110 01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:08.320 to like trying to figure out what was going on, 1111 01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:11.679 but uh, yeah, I don't know. Man, I love all 1112 01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:14.880 this stuff as far as ghosts go. Yeah, dude, I'm 1113 01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:17.079 not sure. There's a lot of crazy stuff that happens. 1114 01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:22.559 I was literally I get an email from DJ this 1115 01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:27.360 evening with the link to Hop on this show, and 1116 01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:30.039 it was like I was searching through my emails for 1117 01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:33.079 our correspondence so I could email them, Hey, DJ, can 1118 01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:34.880 I get a link so I can get on here? 1119 01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:38.679 And it's like boop notification. I'm like, dude, what I 1120 01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:41.599 don't know. Definitely could be a coincidence, but I also 1121 01:00:41.639 --> 01:00:45.320 wouldn't be surprised if, man, there's some like quantum entanglement 1122 01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:47.440 going on in the electrons in my head are spending 1123 01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:50.679 clockwise and your head are going counterclockwise, and I don't know. 1124 01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:55.840 Somehow we both had that idea at the same darn time. 1125 01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:58.920 So I love it. Man, I'm excited to see, like 1126 01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:01.360 as Chris and I keep doing this stuff where things 1127 01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:04.599 go from here. And dude, Meg, I do need to 1128 01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:06.480 mention this, and I'll, i'll and I'll shut up. But 1129 01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:09.280 there was I think it was a miss Jessica or 1130 01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:13.280 something like, hey, your your your camera setup looks good. 1131 01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:16.400 What are you rocking? All right? So dude, it's it's 1132 01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:21.880 a cheap ten ADP pro stream, right, Chris, camera like webcam, 1133 01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:25.760 but if you happen to have an Nvidia graphics card 1134 01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:30.280 in your PC, you can download for free and video broadcasts. 1135 01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:33.400 And what that does is it adds the Boca effect. 1136 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:35.800 It blurs everything out, like this isn't a high Like 1137 01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:37.599 this isn't one of our cameras that we film with 1138 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:40.159 where where it's a shallow depth of field. This is 1139 01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:42.360 all just AI or whatever. Where it blurs it out. 1140 01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:45.280 We could put different backgrounds on it. Yeah, I would 1141 01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:49.519 highly recommend and video broadcast and yeah, a cheap ten 1142 01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:53.280 ADP stream. Now, like I said, the only caveat is 1143 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:57.039 is you have to have an Nvidia graphics card to 1144 01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:01.800 run the free app, right, Chris, mhm, but dude, it's 1145 01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:04.440 worth it. It ups a production value like so much 1146 01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:07.159 like and just thrown a little light at like a 1147 01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:09.599 forty five degree angle, you'd be surprised what that does too. 1148 01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:13.119 So those are your two free filmmaking tips Cabbies. 1149 01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:16.519 Yeah, there's no cost for that, Jessica either. You're not 1150 01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:19.400 gonna have to tip Tyler after the show, so that's good. 1151 01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:25.239 And Scott was kind of like questioning bigfoot sasquatch. Scott, 1152 01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:29.559 your local investigator is none other than Dave McCullough from 1153 01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:33.559 squatcha Chusetts And if you contact Dave, he can tell 1154 01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:37.159 you all about the experiences that he's had in your 1155 01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:41.440 home native Massachusetts. But we've interviewed I don't know dozens 1156 01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:44.840 of people at this point that have had first person encounters, 1157 01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:49.079 and I would not call them liars, I'll put it 1158 01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:52.079 in that way, So including Matt Napp, who is a 1159 01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.920 you know, one of our co hosts that that had 1160 01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:57.920 a sighting. But it is very difficult to believe because 1161 01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:00.840 we tend to think that everything that's in our reality 1162 01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:03.000 we should be able to perceive it, we should be 1163 01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:04.960 able to go out in the woods and see it. Well, 1164 01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:06.599 I can tell you there are a lot of and 1165 01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:08.639 I think everybody here can tell you there are a 1166 01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:11.280 lot of unsuspecting people on the Appalachian Trail who got 1167 01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:14.039 a little bit of a surprise. And that's fairly close 1168 01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:16.440 to all of all of you on the East Coast 1169 01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:18.559 or me who grew up on the East Coast with you. 1170 01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:22.960 So yeah, let's go over to our curly headed the 1171 01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:26.079 unbelievable investigator Courtney connected. 1172 01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:28.920 Hey, So, I. 1173 01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:32.199 Just wanted to say that I felt like, and this is, 1174 01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:35.280 you know, totally props to you guys, the filmmakers that 1175 01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:40.320 the paranormal team. It was such compelling filmmaking to see 1176 01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:44.039 them support one another when they got into jams or 1177 01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:48.800 there was acrimony and they were feeling the vibes of 1178 01:03:48.840 --> 01:03:52.199 the place and having this tension with one another. I 1179 01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:54.719 thought you guys did a really good job showing how 1180 01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:56.239 they supported one another. 1181 01:03:56.599 --> 01:03:58.199 There was differences between them. 1182 01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:00.519 But the thing that really stood out to me, and 1183 01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:04.280 I'm wondering if you noticed anything, were there different skills 1184 01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:08.440 with the different techniques, this particularly this EST's method, which 1185 01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:11.920 I've never heard about. And I think it was Amanda 1186 01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:16.679 and Jules who were really good with that method. You know, 1187 01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:20.320 they interchanged a couple times, somebody maxed out, the other 1188 01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:22.760 person stepped into help, and you see this all the 1189 01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:26.079 way through the whole film where they're helping one another. 1190 01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:28.920 You see Becky take Seth out, you know one. 1191 01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:32.000 Time where he becomes overwhelmed, and you know, it's just 1192 01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:35.719 an intense thing. So when you were filming them and 1193 01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:39.559 you saw them making these decisions, sometimes executive decisions by 1194 01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:43.440 Becky to keep people safe, what did you think when 1195 01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:47.079 you saw them using certain methods or techniques. Did you 1196 01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:51.320 see at all as observers that some people had better 1197 01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:56.599 outcomes with certain types of techniques or software that they 1198 01:04:56.679 --> 01:04:59.960 used because they had the spirit box, they had spirit oil, 1199 01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:03.039 they had ropes, they had tarot cards. I mean, anybody 1200 01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:06.320 who's followed, you know, the esoteric community is going to 1201 01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:09.679 see a wide range of skills being put on display. 1202 01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:12.920 So did you think that, oh yeah, you could really 1203 01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:18.039 see there with them on location, some of their talents 1204 01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:20.920 come through when somebody would step up and you know, 1205 01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:23.239 help somebody else out. Did you see that come through 1206 01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:26.960 with the spirits, that they came through this process more 1207 01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:28.079 with others. 1208 01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:33.440 I mean I could definitely saw that. Jules was very affected. 1209 01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:37.159 She's such like a fun, bubbly person who's jokey and 1210 01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:40.519 jokes the whole time. And she cried in this film 1211 01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:46.079 because she was so affected by a est section and 1212 01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:48.920 I was that was like super We were not expecting 1213 01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:52.239 that at all because it's just not her persona. But 1214 01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:56.480 like that method, I've never done it, but from my understanding, 1215 01:05:56.519 --> 01:05:59.440 it should be universal, Like you know, the way the 1216 01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:02.519 technology she works, it's just whether the spirits are speaking 1217 01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:06.199 to you and you're picking them up through the device. 1218 01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:11.559 But as far as like the intuitives go, I'm sure, 1219 01:06:12.199 --> 01:06:14.559 yes they have. Like we we talked about earlier, they 1220 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:17.360 have probably some different skill sets and different feelings that 1221 01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:22.760 they are able to tap into. But I think maybe 1222 01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.559 it's a matter of the years of experience some of 1223 01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:30.360 the investigators had over some of the other ones who 1224 01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.039 are able to kind of discern a little bit differently, 1225 01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:40.920 maybe more quickly invalidate things that probably are just you know, 1226 01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:47.960 whatever the environment has as opposed to automatically going to 1227 01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:49.280 the spirit, you know what I mean. 1228 01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:51.679 Becky is very good at that. 1229 01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:55.599 She like I said before, she's like incredibly serious and 1230 01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:59.400 is not trying to just find anything and. 1231 01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:03.159 Say it's a ghost. So like, because us as filmmakers like. 1232 01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:08.519 Yeah, ghost, She's like, no, guys, sit over there, it's 1233 01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:09.159 not a ghost. 1234 01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:13.039 They were like, all right, all right, Becky. So that's 1235 01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:13.559 what I think. 1236 01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:16.360 It's more of, you know, the more some of them 1237 01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:19.679 were very, very experienced and others were less experienced. 1238 01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:22.039 But as far as the intuitives. 1239 01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:24.480 Go, they're like their own thing and they have their 1240 01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:27.320 own gifts and so that I can't really speak too 1241 01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:27.960 much on that. 1242 01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:32.519 Yeah, dude, and the intuitives they're always wild. Like I can't. 1243 01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:37.320 I can't tell you how how many productions I've been on. Okay, 1244 01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:39.480 well actually it's been three out this point. But the 1245 01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:44.679 meat on three different productions where unbeknownst to them because 1246 01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:47.559 we don't you know, we get like we let the 1247 01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:52.639 cash and uh, the investigators like relax by themselves. Chris 1248 01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:54.719 and I have to go set up lights in a 1249 01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:56.639 room before we or whatever it is. You know, there's 1250 01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:58.599 a lot of down time we're not up there, but's 1251 01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:04.960 the entire time so you know, like it's dude, I'm 1252 01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:07.159 losing my train of thought here, darn it. It was 1253 01:08:07.159 --> 01:08:12.599 about seth and uh oh, dude, all three of these 1254 01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:17.199 different productions where between Chris and I are over talking 1255 01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:19.159 on the side and just how things are playing out 1256 01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:22.920 every single time when it gets to the point where 1257 01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:26.199 I'm like, oh, Chris, dude, like like I don't know 1258 01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:29.760 what to do, man, Like this is really stressful, dog 1259 01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:32.159 every single time, And like I'm putting on a good front. 1260 01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:34.159 It's not like I'm walking around being miserable, like I'm 1261 01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:36.920 always happy, go lucky, but inside I'm like, dude, like, man, 1262 01:08:37.039 --> 01:08:40.079 something's got to give. And every single time, dude, they 1263 01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:42.359 come up, they either put their hand on my back 1264 01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:47.640 and be like Tyler, they do do that. You need this. 1265 01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:53.399 I'm here like every time, dude, and I'm like what, Chris, 1266 01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:56.520 And then I bring this up with Chris. Chris is like, bro, 1267 01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:58.359 why don't they ever come put their hand on me? 1268 01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:00.359 I'm like, I don't know. Maybe I guess you're not 1269 01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:03.640 like stressed out or you're not giving off those vibes 1270 01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:07.039 of stress, but like that's just been something cool that 1271 01:09:07.079 --> 01:09:11.560 I've had the really neat experience of having with the 1272 01:09:11.640 --> 01:09:15.720 and like every time they do it, like whatever, that 1273 01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:18.199 that not in my stomach or anxiety, Like dude, it 1274 01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:22.479 just like melts away. So I don't placebo effect maybe, 1275 01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:25.800 but it it's been cool. They always happen to like 1276 01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:30.239 just gravitate to me just randomly. I'm not yeah, I'm 1277 01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:33.039 just walking by like hey Tyler, hold on, like wait 1278 01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:37.159 what well, dude, thank you that I feel so much better. 1279 01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:42.119 I think it's the beard. I really do. Excellent. Actually, 1280 01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:46.039 we have something from the chat here, and then I 1281 01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:50.319 have a question for Nathan uh So this one and 1282 01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:52.439 I'm going to read this in the Irish accent of course, 1283 01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:55.880 because it's Pati Murphy. If you haven't know the project 1284 01:09:56.439 --> 01:09:58.720 that you need, folks who hit me up, I'm how 1285 01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:02.960 highly sensitive, work in forensic psychology, and I'm a practicing witch. 1286 01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:03.680 I'm here for you. 1287 01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:07.920 So that is from Patu Murphy. So if you decide 1288 01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:10.600 that you need somebody that's a practicing witch and you 1289 01:10:10.600 --> 01:10:13.720 would like to have her, she lives in Massachusetts and 1290 01:10:14.039 --> 01:10:15.800 you can hit me up and I'll connect you with her. 1291 01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:20.560 Yeah, we have a contact form on our website, docksidemedia 1292 01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:23.760 dot com, which is here, and so we yeah, we 1293 01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:28.119 encourage anyone who has any kind of story skill, idea, 1294 01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:29.680 anything like that, just hit us up. 1295 01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:32.720 We may not you know, jump on it. Right away. 1296 01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:35.800 But we want to get in contact with people like that. 1297 01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:37.960 So yeah, go to DOCSI Media, fill out the form. 1298 01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:41.439 Fill out the farm Poty Murphy and gets on the 1299 01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:44.000 show with them already. Oh thanks Docs, I need it 1300 01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:48.159 right there on your screen. I've been practicing the Irish 1301 01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:48.720 Nathan Man. 1302 01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:49.720 We're not messing around. 1303 01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:50.399 Man. 1304 01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:53.720 If we ever make a cartoon and need voice over work, DJ, 1305 01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:54.600 we're calling you. 1306 01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:57.039 Bro, we caro, give me a call. 1307 01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:00.960 Yeah, we could cover at least ten to fIF teen characters. 1308 01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:02.880 Yeah, I've got you know, I've been working on a 1309 01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:05.279 whole bunch of accents. And you know, you guys mentioned 1310 01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:07.399 the chat. I want to before I even asked Nathan 1311 01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:11.800 this question. Yeah, our chat is very active and very live, 1312 01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:14.720 and you know when you interact with the chat, the 1313 01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:17.920 chat will interact with you. If you ignore them and 1314 01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:20.199 you just let it scroll up the screen and you 1315 01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:22.319 don't engage them and you don't put them up on 1316 01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:26.760 the screen, then they'll ignore you. So and that paid 1317 01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:29.000 real dividends because a lot of these people you see 1318 01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:31.880 here showed up at the dinner we had in Massachusetts 1319 01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:34.439 last Sunday, and I got to meet them in person 1320 01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:39.279 and talk to them till their heart was content. So 1321 01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:40.960 it was a lot of fun. It was a great 1322 01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:43.720 experience to get to meet them. They're telling you their 1323 01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:46.399 screen name and then you're seeing them in real life. 1324 01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:49.880 So so thank you everybody in the chat. The mods 1325 01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:53.439 are doing an outstanding job of putting all your stuff up. 1326 01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:58.039 The movie, the links, Julie, you know, put up where 1327 01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:01.319 it is on Amazon, how people can contact you. Sherry, 1328 01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:04.600 you guys are the best. Now I've got a question 1329 01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:08.680 for Nathan from Beatrice, one of your colleagues, a CAB 1330 01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:13.960 collaborator from True Crime Unsolved Cab TUCU, and she kinda 1331 01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:17.640 wants to know, and actually I think Josie was kind 1332 01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:21.079 of last night wanted to know, what do you think 1333 01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:24.960 is happening with these spirits when these people die? Nathan, 1334 01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:30.359 what are your thoughts on when a person unfortunately or 1335 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:35.600 tragically expires physically, what happens to that spirit, that consciousness? 1336 01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:36.199 Please? 1337 01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:39.600 Yeah, well, I don't know for sure. What I do 1338 01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:44.520 feel confidence saying is that we're facing this question in 1339 01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:46.079 a more honest way than I think we've had in 1340 01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:50.079 a long time. Are kind of predecessors more or more 1341 01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:53.319 comfortable dealing with this issue? And then in the twentieth century, 1342 01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:55.760 and in the nineteenth and twentieth century we kind of said, 1343 01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:57.119 you know, that's a bunch of whoy, We're not going 1344 01:12:57.159 --> 01:13:00.800 to think about that anymore. But we're now coming back around, 1345 01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:03.600 and I think this documentary is good evidence of that 1346 01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:06.960 as well, that we have a younger generation that is 1347 01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:11.560 embracing just these questions period where they were kind of 1348 01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:16.159 shunned aside before. But there are lots of interesting data 1349 01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:18.039 points that we can look at. I mean, we've got 1350 01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:22.880 research that's been done on past lives through the University 1351 01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:28.279 of Virginia where people have had really uncanny experiences of 1352 01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:31.560 past lives and they've had even physical evidence that has 1353 01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:34.359 connected them to a past life. And so there's something 1354 01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:36.159 there's something that seems to be pointing to the fact 1355 01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:40.520 that consciousness does persist after death. And of course near 1356 01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:42.960 death experiences are another good data point to look at. 1357 01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:45.720 There people who have a brush with death, they come 1358 01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:49.000 back and talk about this very vivid experience of the afterlife. 1359 01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:51.800 I think if you kind of start putting these things together, 1360 01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:56.760 you begin formulating some picture that consciousness does persist, and 1361 01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.920 in terms of the kind of hauntings the way I 1362 01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:03.119 think about that is there's and you kind of hear 1363 01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:05.840 this a lot in the people that are investigating this 1364 01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:07.079 kind of activity. 1365 01:14:07.199 --> 01:14:07.840 There's this. 1366 01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:12.399 Sense of being stuck in a place. Then the energetic 1367 01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:17.520 resonance is just sort of tethered to that location or 1368 01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:19.840 or sometimes it's to an object. Right, It's it's very 1369 01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:24.760 much connected to a thing. And oftentimes what what you 1370 01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:27.159 see the paranorlal investigators do, they're trying to sort of 1371 01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:32.479 help the deceased let go of that connection, right, because 1372 01:14:32.479 --> 01:14:35.720 that it's not helping them move on to wherever they 1373 01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:38.039 must have to move on to beyond that. I don't 1374 01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:40.760 think it means necessarily move on to nothingness. I think 1375 01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:44.079 that there's this say they kept you know how people, right, 1376 01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:48.319 everybody knows a person like this who you know, they're 1377 01:14:48.319 --> 01:14:50.560 they're like a hamster on a wheel, right, and they 1378 01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:52.039 get it, they get a thought in their head, they 1379 01:14:52.039 --> 01:14:54.039 get some and they just they're stuck there. They're stuck 1380 01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:57.159 in that cycle of behavior or that cycle of thinking. 1381 01:14:57.199 --> 01:14:58.800 I mean, just somedey all of us do this with 1382 01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:01.399 some something or another, but there are people who really 1383 01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:04.239 just literally can't get off of a certain cycle that 1384 01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:07.720 they're on and I think that oftentimes persists right off 1385 01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:11.000 until the moment that they die. You know, they die 1386 01:15:11.039 --> 01:15:14.680 with intense regrets. They die with these intense feelings of 1387 01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:17.720 connection to a person and object of place. You know 1388 01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:20.199 that they can't let go of that. And I think 1389 01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:24.000 it's it's we tend to think of ourselves as bodies, 1390 01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:26.720 but if we take think of ourselves as minds, and 1391 01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:29.760 we think of the reality as the rally around us 1392 01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:34.119 as sort of parts of our minds, then we're kind 1393 01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:37.600 of replaying that reality over and over and over again 1394 01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:40.560 as our mind moves on into it's sort of next iteration. 1395 01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:42.239 So it's a long answer. 1396 01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:42.520 I don't. 1397 01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:44.960 I don't have the perfect answers here, don't. I don't 1398 01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:47.800 know that anybody really does. But what I'm excited about 1399 01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:50.800 is that with films like this, with people who are 1400 01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:53.720 in films like this, we're at a place now where 1401 01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:57.399 I think people are more comfortable exploring these questions, and 1402 01:15:57.479 --> 01:16:00.840 these are big questions. We should be willing to tackle 1403 01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:04.840 these and willing as well, I think to suspend judgment 1404 01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:07.039 on it. It's easy to say, you know, that's there's 1405 01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:10.079 that's a bunch of who I don't believe it but everybody. 1406 01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:12.840 I mean, I think this is true for everyone, and 1407 01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:15.640 people may not admit it, but everyone's had an experience 1408 01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:19.239 that's just strange and that it's really hard to explain, 1409 01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:23.840 and how do you square that with the world that 1410 01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:26.479 we've grown up in. That sort of says there are 1411 01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:29.840 explanations for everything. You know, science has figured it all out. 1412 01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:33.600 You know, if you can't see it, it's just imaginary, 1413 01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:36.680 like you know, the I don't think it works. I 1414 01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:39.239 just don't think that's satisfactory. I think we have to 1415 01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:42.880 be willing to confront those assumptions and say to ourselves, 1416 01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:45.600 you know what, just because we were born into a 1417 01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:49.399 world that where those assumptions were foundational, doesn't mean those 1418 01:16:49.399 --> 01:16:52.079 assumptions are actually true. Just means that's the kind of 1419 01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:55.760 the operating language that we've inherited. And so when you 1420 01:16:55.760 --> 01:17:00.079 were willing to question that and kind of re examine that, 1421 01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:03.720 you're you're making space for new patterns of thinking that 1422 01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:07.159 I think maybe reveal new answers to us that we 1423 01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:09.399 haven't been ready to listen to before. 1424 01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:09.680 Now. 1425 01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:14.479 Yeah, and I love I love that answer. That's kind 1426 01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:16.680 of what I was expecting, Nathan. And by the way, 1427 01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:20.199 one of our colleagues from Australia is in here. Aspasia 1428 01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:25.800 from Down South Anomalies. When we were on Untold Network, 1429 01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:28.359 her and her husband Jay are on there. Do I 1430 01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:32.800 have you starred? But yeah, Aspacia, thank you for tuning 1431 01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:35.359 in And yeah, I would love to be on your show. 1432 01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:38.399 Although there are actually a lot smarter people than I 1433 01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:42.880 on this panel that you should have before me. But yeah, 1434 01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:45.039 just let me know what your email how to get 1435 01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:49.079 hold of you and down South Anomalies, Jay and Aspacia, 1436 01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:52.439 they're brilliant. These guys have read every book on the 1437 01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:55.399 unknown that you can imagine and they have in their home. 1438 01:17:56.039 --> 01:18:00.239 So anyway, thank you for that answer. You know, while 1439 01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:04.439 we're on that topic, would would Courtney and deb and 1440 01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:09.239 Chris and Tyler also like to speak about what happens to. 1441 01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:11.560 Hara? 1442 01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:13.560 What are you doing in the shot right here? You 1443 01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:15.680 didn't ask Tyler if you can get in the shot. 1444 01:18:16.039 --> 01:18:19.880 You didn't ask Chris if you can get in the shot? 1445 01:18:20.199 --> 01:18:21.800 And the four grounds good, But we got to get 1446 01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:24.119 her blurt out that's going to give you high production value. 1447 01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:27.159 Yeah, you know what I need that software just sun 1448 01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:30.319 blur you out. Anyway. She doesn't care, all right, So 1449 01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:33.319 I'm sorry, would you gut Courtney? Would you like to 1450 01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:35.239 tackle that one? D please, ma'am. 1451 01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:38.239 I just before you rock this, I don't mean to interrupt, 1452 01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:41.640 but YO, shout out Angelie. I see, she just commented, 1453 01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:46.279 Angelie throat Angelie rewind about an hour you got you 1454 01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:49.960 got yourself a name drop when you when my crazy 1455 01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:52.079 knuckleheb Buck came out to film you in front of 1456 01:18:52.119 --> 01:18:53.880 the Lincoln Memorial. 1457 01:18:55.159 --> 01:18:59.640 Legend. I'm sorry, the legend is in the building. Angelee, 1458 01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:03.840 Oh girl, all right, sorry, go ahead, court Oh. 1459 01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:05.800 I have to say that was the first thing I 1460 01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:09.239 ever saw about her was that, you know, filming of 1461 01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:11.359 her out in front of the steps. And so you 1462 01:19:11.399 --> 01:19:14.600 guys did a great job because I didn't know who 1463 01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:17.600 she was, and you brought that out so everybody could 1464 01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:20.119 see it. So that was a huge impact that you made. 1465 01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:23.359 And it's great to see her here tonight. I didn't 1466 01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:26.680 see her in the chat. I'm glad she's here. I 1467 01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:29.039 didn't want to go into depth because I think Nathan 1468 01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:31.680 did a really good job about you know, the history 1469 01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:35.600 where we are now, contemporary thought on you know, after 1470 01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:38.319 life and consciousness. But I did want to mention one 1471 01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:41.720 just a little after thought from what Nathan said that 1472 01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:45.560 sprang to mind was that I do feel in some 1473 01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:49.640 ways in this era we are obsessed with youth and 1474 01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:53.199 anti aging and some of these other things, and we're 1475 01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:57.960 not necessarily embracing aging and our passing and the passage. 1476 01:19:58.359 --> 01:19:59.800 And one of the things that I did want to 1477 01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:02.640 sey say that I saw that I thought it did 1478 01:20:02.680 --> 01:20:05.359 a good job. I wouldn't normally watch a production like this, 1479 01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:09.920 but it was Chris Helmsworth's Limitless and he was going 1480 01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:15.039 through his you know, diagnosis potentially of his genetics of 1481 01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:18.079 having Alzheimer's and dealing with that, you know, on real 1482 01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:22.560 time on camera with the researchers, and he went through 1483 01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:26.039 this process with a death doula where they take him 1484 01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:30.119 through these practices to prepare him for death. 1485 01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:32.159 Because he does this whole production. 1486 01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:35.159 About young, being young, what he does to stay young, 1487 01:20:35.199 --> 01:20:38.199 but then also what happens when you age and gaining 1488 01:20:38.239 --> 01:20:41.399 weight and losing sight and losing sound. Right, So I 1489 01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:44.359 thought that was pretty well done, and I think that 1490 01:20:44.439 --> 01:20:47.960 we're also embracing that more now. I'm seeing a huge 1491 01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:51.439 well spring of practitioners of people who are doing you know, 1492 01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:55.520 death process DULA and other kinds of brief work to 1493 01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:58.960 help people. So I do think there's more acceptance you know, 1494 01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:02.000 of the passing what that means to help people detach 1495 01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:04.800 before they actually pass. But I think there could be 1496 01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:06.640 a lot more done. So that's the only thing that 1497 01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:09.279 I wanted to mention about, you know where you go. 1498 01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.800 I think these things are happening, you know, right now 1499 01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:13.880 in our communities. 1500 01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:15.119 So that was all. 1501 01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:19.720 There are people that can't that that are connecting with 1502 01:21:19.880 --> 01:21:24.479 past lives, children that could not possibly have known that 1503 01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:29.359 person existed and be able to recount finite details like this. 1504 01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:32.319 We talked about it on last night's show, the state 1505 01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:35.399 trooper's son from Indiana that was connecting with the World 1506 01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:40.079 War two pilot who crashed off the waters in Okanawa 1507 01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:43.479 off at yuo Jima, and then when he when they 1508 01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:45.600 rowed the boat over there, he started crying when it 1509 01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:49.520 got to that that, uh, that GPS location. I'm sorry, 1510 01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:51.960 please go ahead with The next person would be Debs. 1511 01:21:51.960 --> 01:21:54.119 Would you like to give yours? And then we'll get 1512 01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:57.479 to Tyler and Chris When people die. 1513 01:21:58.920 --> 01:21:59.960 Well, I think. 1514 01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:04.520 I've done a lot of research as of late on 1515 01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:10.680 NDEs and specifically I've been listening kind of non stop 1516 01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:15.880 to interviews, And of course an aspect of that is 1517 01:22:16.119 --> 01:22:20.159 that the person has died and they leave their body, 1518 01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:26.359 and there seems to be like a consistent narrative about 1519 01:22:26.479 --> 01:22:30.600 the response to the body, like they're usually like, hey, 1520 01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:33.279 that's my body, I'm going to hang out around it 1521 01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:35.520 for a little bit, but I'm not that attached to it, 1522 01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:40.279 so I'm gone. So one of the things that has 1523 01:22:40.319 --> 01:22:45.720 been implied is that for the NDE experience, you stay 1524 01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:50.000 around it because you're not going to completely pass over, 1525 01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:54.279 but if you go further into the experience, you go 1526 01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:59.880 further away from it. Right, So my thought is if 1527 01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:07.239 a deal attachment, they may not be going as far 1528 01:23:07.319 --> 01:23:15.720 away in that death experience, they might not be. And 1529 01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:18.199 one of the other things I wanted to say about 1530 01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:22.159 what I've observed with that so far is simply that 1531 01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:27.840 what you think you know about that, like I guess, 1532 01:23:27.960 --> 01:23:31.560 unraveled with the next interview. Okay, So even though we're 1533 01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:36.600 looking for patterns, it's it's almost like impossible to be 1534 01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:42.159 able to find the patterns consistently in any of these experiences. 1535 01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:45.079 So it's all like, that's why it is what we 1536 01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:48.479 call the paranormal because we cannot always answer, we just 1537 01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:52.399 don't have the ability to do so. So yeah, that's 1538 01:23:52.439 --> 01:23:53.720 what I just wanted to add. 1539 01:23:55.039 --> 01:23:58.439 Thank you Debs for that perspective. Let's go with Tyler 1540 01:23:58.479 --> 01:23:59.800 and then Chris, please. 1541 01:24:01.399 --> 01:24:04.039 And the prompt was you're dead, what happens? 1542 01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:07.600 Yeah, like, yeah, yes. 1543 01:24:07.399 --> 01:24:09.560 Because I have another question about the crew, but yeah, 1544 01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:11.079 please go ahead with that one. 1545 01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:15.119 Well, man, I'm optimistic and I'm having a ton of 1546 01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:17.479 fun in this life, so I'm trying to manifest living 1547 01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:20.479 like to two hundred or three hundred. I think it's doable. 1548 01:24:22.079 --> 01:24:24.640 That's that's that's what I'm swinging for. It. I end 1549 01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:27.680 up a little short, so be it. But that's my goal. 1550 01:24:28.720 --> 01:24:31.520 And dude, I'm open minded. Man. They're talking about the 1551 01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:34.840 reincarnation and past lives, Chris and I would love to 1552 01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:37.359 make a doc on that because there are so many 1553 01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:42.520 people that man as children, at least from the different 1554 01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:44.560 stuff I've been exposed to. It's like, it seems like 1555 01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:47.520 a lot of children happen to be more prone to it, 1556 01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:50.279 and as you kind of grow up, you can they 1557 01:24:50.279 --> 01:24:53.520 can sometimes grow out of that. But yeah, naming places 1558 01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:57.399 that they were famous people and just things that you 1559 01:24:57.479 --> 01:25:00.000 wouldn't know at five years old without like doing it. 1560 01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:03.239 Incredible amount of research, Like this is stuff that's not 1561 01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:08.479 even like widely published. So yeah, fascinating. I'd be open 1562 01:25:08.520 --> 01:25:13.600 to that some sort of afterlife, some sort of Man, 1563 01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:17.039 I don't know. This stuff's crazy. Just how many dimensions 1564 01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:19.520 are there, right, Like, dude, we only see in so 1565 01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:23.520 many bandwidths and frequencies and dog like, that's just how 1566 01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:27.279 we evolve. But bro, there's Wi Fi signals flying through 1567 01:25:27.319 --> 01:25:30.199 my body right now or bouncing off my body or 1568 01:25:30.199 --> 01:25:33.560 whatever happens. So it's like, oh, dude, I just can't 1569 01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:36.479 see them. And you know this stuff with people you know, 1570 01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:39.760 taking DMT or whatever and having these experiences and a 1571 01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:46.680 lot of them reporting similar elf like creature people or whatever, 1572 01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:48.479 just you know all these things. It's like, oh, dude, 1573 01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:52.359 that's crazy. These people are all separately reporting similar stuff. 1574 01:25:52.359 --> 01:25:56.720 Maybe they're gaining access to another dimension. So man, I 1575 01:25:57.119 --> 01:25:59.079 kind of like what Nathan said, Bro, I don't have 1576 01:25:59.159 --> 01:26:03.319 any any answer of what happens. I'd be cool with 1577 01:26:03.680 --> 01:26:07.000 any of it, and I'd be open to all of it. 1578 01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:10.119 So I think one of the reasons too, why Chris 1579 01:26:10.159 --> 01:26:14.439 and I maybe don't have a ton of like hitchhiker 1580 01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:18.720 experiences with paranormal stuff following us home is like, dude, 1581 01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:21.560 when we go into these like we have the purest 1582 01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:24.960 of intentions, like, hey, we're here to try and make 1583 01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:28.319 a documentary, but have fun and enjoy life. We're not 1584 01:26:28.359 --> 01:26:31.439 trying to antagonize spirits and like, go, can we get 1585 01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:33.880 them to like do something? Let me, what if I 1586 01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:36.319 really make fun of them or like dude, Like no, no, 1587 01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:39.359 We're like we're being respectful, Like, dude, this is cool. 1588 01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:42.159 Let's just see if we can experience something or get 1589 01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:46.640 some data points. So yeah, at the end of the day, 1590 01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:48.560 I don't know, dude, but I'm down with any of it. 1591 01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:51.680 And yeah, two hundred to three hundred years somebody, uh 1592 01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:55.000 like whatever, do the reddit bot remind me in two 1593 01:26:55.079 --> 01:26:56.840 hundred and three hundred or I guess only one hundred 1594 01:26:56.840 --> 01:27:00.439 and sixty years from now. See if Tyler's still here, back. 1595 01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:02.880 Tyler, if you want to do that, you got to 1596 01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:07.680 do Brian Johnson's whole protocol don't die, no coffee, no 1597 01:27:07.800 --> 01:27:11.520 nakedine that goes out immediately. 1598 01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:12.520 Dude. 1599 01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:17.840 Well, hey, I just started it. I just started intermittent 1600 01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:22.439 fasting like that six days ago. I've been rocking eighteen 1601 01:27:22.479 --> 01:27:25.399 hours and like, dude, feeling great. So I'm moving in 1602 01:27:25.439 --> 01:27:26.079 the right direction. 1603 01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:30.119 Hell yeah you are. Hello Amy. We got to meet 1604 01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:34.439 Amy the other night also at that dinner, Amy Positive Pathways, 1605 01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:38.159 who's also like a I believe she's a mental health 1606 01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:41.119 professional as well, like kind of like two of our 1607 01:27:41.279 --> 01:27:46.039 panelists here below me. So anyway, Yeah, I guess it's 1608 01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:50.760 down to Chris. Chris, people die and what the hell happens? 1609 01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:56.079 Yeah. For me, I think that people have are very 1610 01:27:56.119 --> 01:27:57.159 short sighted. You know. 1611 01:27:57.199 --> 01:28:00.720 We we try to live and survive the day, and 1612 01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:05.159 we forget that, like we are made of stars, you know, 1613 01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:09.079 stars from billions of years ago and millions of years 1614 01:28:09.079 --> 01:28:11.239 ago and all that stuff. Like we are part of 1615 01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:16.000 a larger cosmic process. So we were existed in some 1616 01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:21.159 form atoms before, and we will transfer into something else. 1617 01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:24.079 Our energy in some level will always exist and be 1618 01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:28.640 passed through this universe. And so I don't remember what 1619 01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:32.399 my existence was like before I was born here, and 1620 01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:35.319 maybe I won't know what it's like in this version 1621 01:28:35.399 --> 01:28:37.760 of myself after I die. But I like to think 1622 01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:39.920 that some part of me still exists, or I know, 1623 01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:42.039 some part of me will still exist in some level, 1624 01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:45.920 so that is enough for me. I think the most 1625 01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:49.239 thing that you know scares most people about death is 1626 01:28:49.279 --> 01:28:52.840 the painful process of one the pain of dying and 1627 01:28:52.920 --> 01:28:58.600 two leaving behind the ones we love. But I don't 1628 01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:03.239 remember the pain before I was in this form of 1629 01:29:03.279 --> 01:29:06.439 my body, and so I probably won't remember it after. 1630 01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:10.279 But maybe I'll have different experiences then, So I like 1631 01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:12.840 to try and be more positive like that. 1632 01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:15.680 I don't know. I think we need new to two 1633 01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:18.439 new co hosts on Calling All Beings? What do you think. 1634 01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:21.039 You guys are welcome back anytime. 1635 01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:23.920 Thank you. 1636 01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:26.359 I've co hosted Tyler before. 1637 01:29:26.439 --> 01:29:28.520 By the way, you have. 1638 01:29:30.399 --> 01:29:36.880 Wow that that gentleman from the Nimen incident, Kevin Day. Yep, 1639 01:29:37.239 --> 01:29:37.840 there you go. 1640 01:29:38.840 --> 01:29:41.640 I was gonna say, if you know what made me 1641 01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:44.319 think earlier to stitch back if you're doing something on 1642 01:29:44.359 --> 01:29:47.000 the NDEs. Everybody on the panel here is friends with 1643 01:29:47.079 --> 01:29:51.079 James I and Noli, and he would He's had a 1644 01:29:51.079 --> 01:29:54.760 prolific uh ND experience. Uh do you guys know who 1645 01:29:54.840 --> 01:30:00.520 he is? Engaging the phenomenon? No, though, Ethan, how do 1646 01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:01.840 you explain James Iindoli? 1647 01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:07.439 He's the human sasquatch of euthology. He's the gentle giant 1648 01:30:07.560 --> 01:30:13.920 of He's James is an incredible person who is also 1649 01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:17.319 just a very large person, very tall guy, very strong guy, 1650 01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:22.479 and he's had incredible experiences. As DJ says, he's had 1651 01:30:22.640 --> 01:30:27.800 NDEs OBEs out of by experiences. He's had many, many 1652 01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:35.279 contact experiences with UFOs. He's been an ardent advocate for 1653 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:39.720 euthology and disclosure and a kind of a quiet He's 1654 01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:47.479 one of those just dedicated quiet forces in the movement 1655 01:30:47.560 --> 01:30:51.119 to getting more information and answers. He's kind of behind 1656 01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:53.840 a lot of people and he's like the he's the 1657 01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:56.119 best cheering section you could ever hope for, you know, 1658 01:30:56.159 --> 01:30:59.039 He's he's just really supportive. He doesn't want to hog 1659 01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:01.640 the limelight. He wants to help and wants to lift 1660 01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:05.079 up voices that are emerging in the community and to 1661 01:31:05.159 --> 01:31:07.600 kind of cheer them on. We owe a lot to 1662 01:31:07.680 --> 01:31:10.560 James because he's been so encouraging to us over the 1663 01:31:10.840 --> 01:31:14.039 over the years doing the show, and he's I think 1664 01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:16.760 he's a great resource. He's incredibly knowledgeable. 1665 01:31:18.239 --> 01:31:18.479 Guest. 1666 01:31:19.119 --> 01:31:20.319 We should definitely talk to him. 1667 01:31:20.680 --> 01:31:25.079 Yeah, yeah, he will be on CAP next month and 1668 01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:28.479 I ended up seeing him in New York. Typically, when 1669 01:31:28.520 --> 01:31:30.720 I go to New York to see my hometown friends, 1670 01:31:31.159 --> 01:31:34.520 I will have a few minutes with James and then 1671 01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:36.920 I'll go see my friends. This time I brought him. 1672 01:31:37.239 --> 01:31:39.720 He brought his daughters to the restaurant, who I got 1673 01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:43.560 to meet both his daughters, and he got to mingle 1674 01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:45.560 in with my friends. I said, if you have questions 1675 01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:50.119 about the phenomenon, ask this cat. James was so kind 1676 01:31:50.239 --> 01:31:53.520 and so positive, probably because you know, I don't get 1677 01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:56.359 to see him as much now with you know that 1678 01:31:56.439 --> 01:32:00.800 I'm doing another genre, but he really is and in 1679 01:32:00.880 --> 01:32:05.000 terms of an interviewer, he is among the very top 1680 01:32:05.279 --> 01:32:10.239 in our space. And there are PhDs that reach out 1681 01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:15.119 to James and confer with James that other people wish 1682 01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:19.640 that they could call that person. So and he's gotten 1683 01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:23.039 us guests that frankly, we wouldn't have gotten, you know, 1684 01:32:23.199 --> 01:32:26.560 without him. So anyway, so that's James, And well, yeah, 1685 01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:28.560 you guys can always reach him, because you can reach me, 1686 01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:29.319 and I can. 1687 01:32:29.479 --> 01:32:30.279 In touch with him. 1688 01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:33.279 All right, We will definitely let you know, and I 1689 01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:36.279 want to get in touch, but we'll get on that, okay, 1690 01:32:36.479 --> 01:32:38.359 thank you, and you yeah, you got my numbers, so 1691 01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:42.520 we can we can remain in contact. And I really 1692 01:32:42.520 --> 01:32:44.880 am thinking about having seth about the young lady that 1693 01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:48.840 was on last night named Josie and what happened with her. 1694 01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:51.520 And I'm going to send you guys that episode so 1695 01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:55.560 you can scroll to to that part where she comes on. 1696 01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:59.039 She talks about the spirit, the good spirit, the young girl, 1697 01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:02.800 she talks about the bad spirit that she really doesn't 1698 01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:06.359 like that probably scares her mom. And then you're going 1699 01:33:06.439 --> 01:33:08.600 to see when she has this flip all of a 1700 01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:12.279 sudden and everything changes and then she's able to somehow 1701 01:33:12.319 --> 01:33:14.720 defeat defeat that and the. 1702 01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:16.279 Chat was freaking. 1703 01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:20.119 I mean, who's prepared for that? I mean, if you 1704 01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:22.239 guys were doing an interview on stream yard, would you 1705 01:33:22.279 --> 01:33:29.800 be prepared for that? It was. It's the most craziest 1706 01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:31.960 moment in the history of calling all beings. And I'm 1707 01:33:31.960 --> 01:33:43.800 here to tell you We've had a lot of crazy moments. 1708 01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:41.359 You know. DJ. 1709 01:33:41.720 --> 01:33:43.640 I don't want to interrupt, but it's weird. 1710 01:33:43.680 --> 01:33:48.760 I was just thinking about the documentary and so for 1711 01:33:48.840 --> 01:33:51.720 you guys, I do the like artwork for the show, 1712 01:33:52.479 --> 01:33:56.479 and as I'm generating the artwork, trying to find the 1713 01:33:56.600 --> 01:33:58.680 image that like, I feel like fits what we want 1714 01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:00.640 to do or what the show is to be about. 1715 01:34:01.359 --> 01:34:03.039 Sometimes I have a really good sense of what that's 1716 01:34:03.039 --> 01:34:04.720 gonna be and what kind of what I want to 1717 01:34:04.760 --> 01:34:07.960 do with that creative piece, and sometimes I just don't know. 1718 01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:11.600 But I iterated this piece like over, like many many 1719 01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:13.640 times yesterday trying to figure out like what was going 1720 01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:17.399 to work, and I landed on the one that spoke 1721 01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:20.399 to me the most, which was this image of a 1722 01:34:20.479 --> 01:34:25.039 door in an empty room with like this like phantasm, 1723 01:34:25.199 --> 01:34:28.319 you know, sort of whit wispy uh cloud like kind 1724 01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:30.920 of substance. And it just occurred to me, like that, 1725 01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:33.640 how that was a character in your documentary? 1726 01:34:33.680 --> 01:34:34.520 Like it? 1727 01:34:35.319 --> 01:34:37.840 I said no to so many other images that had 1728 01:34:38.199 --> 01:34:41.399 you know, literal like ghosts or phantasms or whatever, and 1729 01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:44.640 they didn't speak to me, but this one with the 1730 01:34:44.720 --> 01:34:47.239 door was the one anyway. 1731 01:34:47.279 --> 01:34:49.279 Yeah, sorry, that does that does make sense though? Right? 1732 01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:53.960 Yeah? You know, real quick before Michelas leaves your Michelas, 1733 01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:57.760 I saw you from the UK. Dog You're in Luck 1734 01:34:59.319 --> 01:35:03.279 Surrounded by Spirits is free with ads on Amazon in 1735 01:35:03.319 --> 01:35:05.319 the UK. We found out because we just yeah, I 1736 01:35:05.359 --> 01:35:08.720 got a report. We're closing in on a million minutes 1737 01:35:08.760 --> 01:35:13.920 streamed in the UK for surrounded by spirits. So Nicholas, 1738 01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:16.279 I just wanted to make sure yep, you know you 1739 01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:20.520 and I saw you mentioned like oh hey dude, yeah, 1740 01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:22.760 if you ever come to UK, look me up like, 1741 01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:25.680 oh yeah, no, that's noted. We'll do that. You might 1742 01:35:25.720 --> 01:35:27.319 be surprised you get a knocked on your door like 1743 01:35:27.319 --> 01:35:30.600 three weeks from now, but we appreciate the opera. 1744 01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:34.039 Yeah, he has shown me. He has shown me some 1745 01:35:34.239 --> 01:35:38.239 videos where that it's like the camera's on his coffee table, 1746 01:35:39.159 --> 01:35:43.560 he's what appears to be an entity is sitting next 1747 01:35:43.560 --> 01:35:46.840 to him, because I don't know how you would fake 1748 01:35:46.920 --> 01:35:50.399 something like that. It looks like there's something next to 1749 01:35:50.479 --> 01:35:54.000 him that looks misty and he you know, obviously he 1750 01:35:54.760 --> 01:35:57.800 has a name. I think it's Fuggy. Is this this 1751 01:35:58.079 --> 01:36:02.239 entity that he speaks with? And he did some spirit 1752 01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:04.800 box stuff. I've got a whole a whole bunch of 1753 01:36:04.840 --> 01:36:07.600 stuff from from Mick, but it's it's pretty wild man. 1754 01:36:07.720 --> 01:36:11.479 So yeah, he's he's connected to to some sort of 1755 01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:15.399 a spirit. So anyway, uh, I guess this question would 1756 01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:17.600 be for you guys, and then we're getting ready to 1757 01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:19.960 close it up. But let's let's get get this in there. 1758 01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:23.640 Just fear give nity strength, and you shake attachments by 1759 01:36:23.640 --> 01:36:24.279 believe in the power. 1760 01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:28.760 So I'm not I'm not particularly religious, but I think 1761 01:36:30.239 --> 01:36:34.359 spiritual belief or any kind of belief, uh, you know, 1762 01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:38.239 positivity empowers you in some ways. I think, I think 1763 01:36:38.319 --> 01:36:41.159 just in general in life, if you approach things the 1764 01:36:41.239 --> 01:36:48.039 negative uh belief system, you're gonna manifest negativity in your life. 1765 01:36:48.079 --> 01:36:52.439 And if you approach things positively, you're gonna manifest that. 1766 01:36:52.560 --> 01:36:55.439 And I think if their spirits are out there, they're 1767 01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:59.479 going to see what kind of energy you're bringing into 1768 01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:03.399 a place and into their energy, and when two energies. 1769 01:37:03.039 --> 01:37:06.720 Collide, you get what you get. But that's that's my 1770 01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:07.560 kind of belief. 1771 01:37:08.479 --> 01:37:11.800 And so we can take that same theory because when 1772 01:37:11.840 --> 01:37:14.319 you talk to people like James Einoli who's had, as 1773 01:37:14.439 --> 01:37:18.399 Nathan said, multiple contact experiences, what you're bringing into it, 1774 01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:22.560 what your intention is a big part of like CE 1775 01:37:22.680 --> 01:37:25.560 five and Micholas is also into that. And if you 1776 01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:29.359 talk to bigfoot investigators, there is a a quite a 1777 01:37:29.520 --> 01:37:33.840 swath of a bigfoot investigators that will tell you that 1778 01:37:34.119 --> 01:37:37.520 what energy you bring into the woods when you know 1779 01:37:37.640 --> 01:37:40.600 they're there, I mean you're in, Like, what's that that 1780 01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:42.760 that big park in Ohio that I can't think of 1781 01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:45.960 the name of it right now, that big state park 1782 01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:49.199 where people go. But you know, I think you guys 1783 01:37:49.199 --> 01:37:51.199 know what I'm talking about. There's a lot of investigators 1784 01:37:51.199 --> 01:37:54.079 that go there. Your colleague Seth Goes, you know, has 1785 01:37:54.119 --> 01:37:58.000 been there. But the point is is that what you 1786 01:37:58.039 --> 01:38:01.479 bring into the woods can determine what kind of experience 1787 01:38:01.479 --> 01:38:03.600 you have if you're gonna get shouted out of there, 1788 01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:06.479 if you're gonna get rocks thrown at you, or if 1789 01:38:06.479 --> 01:38:08.840 you're just gonna hear stuff and it's not going to 1790 01:38:08.920 --> 01:38:13.239 come and ingress on your camp. So yeah, it seems 1791 01:38:13.239 --> 01:38:16.920 to be universal with all these three, which deb you know, 1792 01:38:17.520 --> 01:38:20.880 firmly believes is phenomenon and I think, you know, with 1793 01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:25.960 good reason. With that said, I would like to get 1794 01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:29.760 final thoughts from everybody, and of course for our two 1795 01:38:29.800 --> 01:38:34.800 guests to promo docksidmedia dot Com and anything that you'd 1796 01:38:34.840 --> 01:38:38.039 like to promote please, So let's start with our guests 1797 01:38:38.079 --> 01:38:42.000 and then we'll go to money Nathan and Debs and Courtney. 1798 01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:44.880 Go ahead, Tyler, you're the hype man work. 1799 01:38:45.399 --> 01:38:46.239 Thank you man. 1800 01:38:46.319 --> 01:38:49.800 Well dude again Tyler with Dockside Media. That's right, the 1801 01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:53.359 dopest documentary production company side of the Milky Way. Take it, 1802 01:38:53.479 --> 01:38:56.159 dug it, dag nabbitt. Let go check it, Chris and 1803 01:38:56.199 --> 01:38:59.680 I do. We got seven documentaries out there. I can 1804 01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:03.399 name it all all right. I will Conscious Contact full disclosure, 1805 01:39:03.640 --> 01:39:07.600 the Ghosts of Gettysburg, Secrets of the Sasquatch in plain sight, 1806 01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:12.159 the intelligence community in UFOs. Oh the clap, dude, you 1807 01:39:12.199 --> 01:39:15.560 threw me off. Darn it. I was. It's all good 1808 01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:19.399 hosting the Graveyard, pure panemonium, the ghosts of Graham Midway 1809 01:39:19.680 --> 01:39:22.439 and then surrounded by spirits and then we've got historically 1810 01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:26.239 Haunted with Amy Bruney in production now and we'll be 1811 01:39:26.319 --> 01:39:30.800 out a little later this year. Dude, thanks so much 1812 01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:33.359 for having a song. Doubling back to my man's asking 1813 01:39:33.439 --> 01:39:38.359 about it. Go can uh intentions or thoughts and stuff? Dude, 1814 01:39:38.439 --> 01:39:42.640 like affect reality. I'm a big believer in like the 1815 01:39:42.680 --> 01:39:45.720 power positive thinking, and dude, I wouldn't be surprised if 1816 01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:49.720 we can manifest some of our destiny, Like, dude, Chris, 1817 01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:54.199 sure as crap. When we filmed these number of interviews 1818 01:39:54.239 --> 01:39:57.039 and we and he cut together Conscious Contact Full disclosure. 1819 01:39:57.640 --> 01:40:01.479 I watched it. I'm like, Bro, we're getting picked up 1820 01:40:01.520 --> 01:40:04.039 by a district like, this is this is getting picked 1821 01:40:04.119 --> 01:40:08.560 up by a distributor. Dog, this is insane. He's like, okay, whatever, 1822 01:40:08.920 --> 01:40:12.479 bro reached. I'm like, okay, Google, what's the what's the 1823 01:40:12.520 --> 01:40:16.039 most popular UFO distribution company at the time, it was 1824 01:40:16.039 --> 01:40:19.159 ten ninety one Pictures. They had like James Fox's movies, right. 1825 01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:20.000 And. 1826 01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:23.680 Dude, I'm like, yeah, sure enough, whatever, I don't need 1827 01:40:23.720 --> 01:40:25.600 to get all into it. But Bro, we took a 1828 01:40:25.640 --> 01:40:29.439 swing boom. We ended up getting a deal with ten 1829 01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:33.560 ninety one Pictures and making all these docs, and dude, 1830 01:40:33.560 --> 01:40:37.479 it's just it's so much fun and it's such an adventure. 1831 01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:40.640 The people in the chat, the Cabby's saying, I look 1832 01:40:40.760 --> 01:40:44.880 like Bradley Cooper, h you made my you made my night. Dude. 1833 01:40:44.920 --> 01:40:45.760 That was that was. 1834 01:40:46.399 --> 01:40:48.920 I don't want to not ever hear the end of that. 1835 01:40:50.319 --> 01:40:54.199 Or Sean McVay, the Rams coach. Sometimes I get little 1836 01:40:54.239 --> 01:41:00.399 Sean McVay comparison. But but dude, let me just say, 1837 01:41:00.520 --> 01:41:02.760 Chris and I have been on a number of podcasts 1838 01:41:03.319 --> 01:41:08.520 and do we or I have thoroughly enjoyed being on 1839 01:41:08.600 --> 01:41:13.640 this one. Specifically for the dynamic, the diversity. It seems 1840 01:41:13.680 --> 01:41:16.720 like similar to duckside media, like, Hey, we got our 1841 01:41:16.720 --> 01:41:19.439 strengths and our weaknesses, and we lean into the ones 1842 01:41:19.439 --> 01:41:21.239 with the strengths and you know, and they help out 1843 01:41:21.239 --> 01:41:23.640 the weakness and blah blah blah to get these made. 1844 01:41:23.680 --> 01:41:25.640 And I can tell that it's cool that you guys 1845 01:41:25.680 --> 01:41:28.399 have all your bases covered between the four of you 1846 01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:34.560 contributing to making something entertaining. But also like, dude, let's 1847 01:41:34.680 --> 01:41:39.359 generate discussion. Let's try and inch this ball forward, uh, 1848 01:41:39.439 --> 01:41:42.279 because yeah, one hundred years from now, wouldn't it be 1849 01:41:42.319 --> 01:41:45.720 pretty cool if calling all beings played some part in 1850 01:41:45.920 --> 01:41:51.680 disclosure or you know, or or gravitic technology anti gravitic technology, 1851 01:41:51.680 --> 01:41:53.800 who knows, dude, the guy's the limit. Bro. I believe 1852 01:41:53.800 --> 01:41:58.119 in all you guys, and man, I wish nothing but 1853 01:41:58.159 --> 01:42:01.560 good things upon you, and I'm looking forward to making 1854 01:42:01.560 --> 01:42:03.439 more docs so we can reach back out to you 1855 01:42:03.479 --> 01:42:04.319 and come back on here. 1856 01:42:04.640 --> 01:42:08.720 Oh hell yeah, that's that's what they call Gamron Pete. 1857 01:42:11.600 --> 01:42:13.880 Let's kid Chris in there, because we got into some 1858 01:42:13.920 --> 01:42:15.399 adorable Chris comments there. 1859 01:42:16.199 --> 01:42:20.079 So yeah, thank you. I don't know thank that. 1860 01:42:20.199 --> 01:42:21.479 Yeah, I just want to say, thank you guys for 1861 01:42:21.520 --> 01:42:22.000 having us on. 1862 01:42:22.079 --> 01:42:23.640 This is great. I really enjoyed it. 1863 01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:26.279 I do really like your format kind of how you 1864 01:42:26.319 --> 01:42:29.720 pass around and let everybody have their moment to talk. 1865 01:42:30.479 --> 01:42:32.960 So this is really fun experience. Yeah, thank you. 1866 01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:37.319 Thank you brother. You guys both have great beards and 1867 01:42:37.479 --> 01:42:41.119 are really awesome, really awesome people to hang out with. 1868 01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:44.680 Let's go with Uh, well, you know what, Let's go 1869 01:42:44.720 --> 01:42:48.720 with Courtney Connected. She's a Pennsylvanian. Yeah, what's up man? 1870 01:42:48.760 --> 01:42:50.520 What's your final comments? Oh? 1871 01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:53.840 My biggest thing tonight is just learning so much learning 1872 01:42:53.840 --> 01:42:56.720 about Angelie and how you guys were involved in you know, 1873 01:42:56.840 --> 01:43:00.600 her big coming out and you know that was epic, 1874 01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:03.680 and all the other productions that you've done that you've 1875 01:43:03.720 --> 01:43:06.159 done something in Gettysburg. Now I have to go watch it, 1876 01:43:06.319 --> 01:43:08.960 you know, because I have friends who are in Gettysburg 1877 01:43:09.039 --> 01:43:12.199 that do the whole scene. So it was really lovely 1878 01:43:12.479 --> 01:43:15.119 just learning about all the work that you do. And 1879 01:43:15.439 --> 01:43:18.560 I think my biggest takeaway is you know, being open minded. 1880 01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:22.840 You guys are both open minded and you carry that 1881 01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:26.039 with you doing your filmmaking and it shows, you know 1882 01:43:26.199 --> 01:43:27.359 through through the film. 1883 01:43:27.359 --> 01:43:27.960 It really does. 1884 01:43:28.039 --> 01:43:30.600 The audience can see that you guys are open minded. 1885 01:43:31.119 --> 01:43:34.359 So I think that's my biggest takeaway tonight in interfacing 1886 01:43:34.399 --> 01:43:36.399 with you and learning about you, is to carry that 1887 01:43:36.479 --> 01:43:38.960 forward is just keep your mind open, see what happens, 1888 01:43:39.039 --> 01:43:41.119 See where the good vibes lead you. They could lead 1889 01:43:41.159 --> 01:43:43.520 you to some really good, interesting, creative stuff. 1890 01:43:44.439 --> 01:43:46.680 Thank you and thank you for coming on. 1891 01:43:46.800 --> 01:43:52.119 That's the other thing girlfriend want to say, got depths. 1892 01:43:52.920 --> 01:43:56.159 Well, obviously I've thrilled to hang out with Tyler again. 1893 01:43:56.520 --> 01:43:59.760 Tyler is awesome, and it was good to get to 1894 01:43:59.800 --> 01:44:04.399 hang out with you. Chris, You're also awesome. I for 1895 01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:08.840 some reason, I'm like I've since I started studying the 1896 01:44:08.880 --> 01:44:14.359 paranormal in this regard, like I'd studied ghosts as a kid, 1897 01:44:14.920 --> 01:44:17.840 but like when I went to like UFOs and brought 1898 01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:21.079 in my horizons, I like suddenly had to just share 1899 01:44:21.239 --> 01:44:24.159 things and not hold back. And for some reason, I 1900 01:44:24.279 --> 01:44:28.680 have to share that. One common thing that people are 1901 01:44:28.720 --> 01:44:35.600 talking about in NDEs is that everyone is connected to 1902 01:44:35.760 --> 01:44:39.640 what they call the source. Right, So when you said 1903 01:44:39.720 --> 01:44:46.600 earlier that we're all like the stars, it's literally to 1904 01:44:46.760 --> 01:44:51.159 people who have NDEs who come back from the other side, 1905 01:44:51.680 --> 01:44:55.239 they say that we're all like cells on one giant 1906 01:44:55.479 --> 01:44:59.479 entity that is the source something to think about. I 1907 01:44:59.520 --> 01:45:01.520 just wanted to leave you guys with something to think 1908 01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:05.640 about and thank you again and keep making awesome movies. 1909 01:45:05.760 --> 01:45:08.359 If you make one about NDEs, you know I'm going 1910 01:45:08.439 --> 01:45:10.960 to watch it. And all the other stuff you're doing 1911 01:45:11.119 --> 01:45:12.000 is great. 1912 01:45:12.720 --> 01:45:14.800 Thank you good, thank you so much. 1913 01:45:16.039 --> 01:45:20.319 Nathan is my homie. UH from West Roxbury would say 1914 01:45:20.359 --> 01:45:26.239 you connected to the sauce you know, fucking use my mask? Yeah, 1915 01:45:26.279 --> 01:45:27.560 connected to the sauce pro. 1916 01:45:31.960 --> 01:45:32.279 Nathan. 1917 01:45:33.359 --> 01:45:34.840 We got it on YouTube, brother man. 1918 01:45:35.079 --> 01:45:35.920 There you go go ahead. 1919 01:45:36.520 --> 01:45:39.079 How about that? I was saying some nice things about. 1920 01:45:38.960 --> 01:45:41.439 Dj uh take yours never as good. 1921 01:45:41.479 --> 01:45:43.600 That's that they're done to try. 1922 01:45:43.720 --> 01:45:47.159 But so much for being with us and spending time 1923 01:45:47.199 --> 01:45:50.600 with us, entertaining our questions and putting up without Arsenanigan's 1924 01:45:51.600 --> 01:45:53.520 you know you're you're a part of our story now 1925 01:45:53.760 --> 01:45:55.720 and Uh and we're a part of your story and 1926 01:45:56.159 --> 01:45:58.720 we're really grateful and honored to be a part of that. 1927 01:45:58.840 --> 01:46:01.439 We're cheering you guys on. This was an incredible production 1928 01:46:01.560 --> 01:46:05.439 that you put together. It showed that you've, you know, 1929 01:46:05.439 --> 01:46:07.319 you've really brought to life the dream that that you 1930 01:46:07.600 --> 01:46:11.720 came into, brought into the world and it's got it's developing, 1931 01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:13.279 and it's growing. And just like you have a kid 1932 01:46:13.319 --> 01:46:15.119 and you're raising it, you don't have to have when 1933 01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:17.399 you have a kid, you don't know how to raise 1934 01:46:17.439 --> 01:46:20.239 that child. And every year you learn something new and 1935 01:46:20.279 --> 01:46:22.760 the child hopefully gets a little bit better and better. Well, 1936 01:46:22.840 --> 01:46:25.600 the productions get better and better as well, as I'm 1937 01:46:25.640 --> 01:46:28.800 confident in that. And uh, we're excided to kind of 1938 01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:30.720 follow you guys and see what you do in the future. 1939 01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:31.760 So keep up the great. 1940 01:46:31.560 --> 01:46:33.760 Work and you're always welcome back to to come on 1941 01:46:33.800 --> 01:46:34.159 the show. 1942 01:46:34.399 --> 01:46:35.199 Good to have you with us. 1943 01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:38.279 Awesome, Yeah, it means a lot, thanks man. 1944 01:46:38.800 --> 01:46:41.520 Okay, Nathan, this one is cruel from miss Jessica. 1945 01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:42.760 This is cruel. 1946 01:46:43.039 --> 01:46:47.279 Okay, I mean the bar is kind of low there, 1947 01:46:47.319 --> 01:46:51.960 I guess, right, all right. 1948 01:46:53.079 --> 01:46:58.479 But I still appreciate making a gesture. All right. 1949 01:46:59.159 --> 01:47:01.760 Oh man, you guys were just so much fun to 1950 01:47:01.800 --> 01:47:04.520 hang out with. So Jessica was asking how to support 1951 01:47:04.520 --> 01:47:07.880 you obviously, go to www. Dot doc side Media, go 1952 01:47:07.960 --> 01:47:11.359 to their Facebook page, see what those documentaries are and 1953 01:47:11.479 --> 01:47:15.079 find out where they are being platformed as we speak, 1954 01:47:15.119 --> 01:47:18.439 so that you can watch those movies. And that is 1955 01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:27.159 I know, Jessica, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, and so yeah, 1956 01:47:28.079 --> 01:47:31.520 please go and support and watch those movies, particularly Surrounded 1957 01:47:31.560 --> 01:47:33.439 by Spirits that's just came out, and then you can 1958 01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:37.960 kind of work your way down through their catalog of films. 1959 01:47:38.439 --> 01:47:41.319 And you guys were just so much fun. I think 1960 01:47:41.319 --> 01:47:44.680 you did a fantastic job with a very authentic piece, 1961 01:47:44.720 --> 01:47:47.439 which is what I liked about it. And I love 1962 01:47:47.520 --> 01:47:51.159 the people that you chose, or that Becky chose to 1963 01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:54.319 be on it. I think that worked out great. And men, 1964 01:47:54.399 --> 01:47:58.359 you could do a whole another place that same crew 1965 01:47:58.680 --> 01:48:02.520 and it would be dope. So thank you, guys. I 1966 01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:03.399 really appreciate you. 1967 01:48:03.960 --> 01:48:04.720 Thank you so much. 1968 01:48:06.079 --> 01:48:08.479 You guys are the cash pajamas. So yeah, I'm going 1969 01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:10.720 to sleep with a fool heart tonight. Thank you so much. 1970 01:48:10.800 --> 01:48:11.680 We appreciate it. 1971 01:48:11.800 --> 01:48:15.359 We really do, all right, I and say, man, I'll 1972 01:48:15.359 --> 01:48:17.119 be in touch with you brother because we get Yeah, 1973 01:48:17.119 --> 01:48:19.399 I want to try to get Seth for that for 1974 01:48:19.479 --> 01:48:22.000 that one thing and see if he's available to come 1975 01:48:22.039 --> 01:48:24.239 on and chat with that young lady and so the 1976 01:48:24.279 --> 01:48:25.399 hell going down in. 1977 01:48:25.560 --> 01:48:28.479 Housej I down. 1978 01:48:29.760 --> 01:48:31.840 I just want to say, I'm really impressed that we 1979 01:48:31.960 --> 01:48:35.800 got Bradley Cooper on the show today. I think we're 1980 01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:37.399 really up in our game here. 1981 01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:38.840 Yeah. 1982 01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:41.239 I actually gotta thank Deb because Deb is the one 1983 01:48:41.319 --> 01:48:43.720 that put this together for us. I'm glad you you 1984 01:48:43.800 --> 01:48:49.760 mentioned that about Brad, but but thank you Deb for 1985 01:48:49.800 --> 01:48:52.640 putting this together and thanks. 1986 01:48:52.359 --> 01:48:57.960 For all the compliments. Just in the future, I'm watching 1987 01:48:58.039 --> 01:49:01.760 Chris's screen and every time, yeah, it's kind of obvious 1988 01:49:02.119 --> 01:49:05.000 that I'm your favorite, and every time you give me 1989 01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:07.600 a compliment. Every time you give me a compliment, I 1990 01:49:07.960 --> 01:49:10.359 watch a small piece of Chris die on his screen 1991 01:49:10.880 --> 01:49:13.359 the last time when you were like, oh, Chris Tyler 1992 01:49:13.479 --> 01:49:15.319 so good, so you're so far. I'm like thinking, in 1993 01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:18.199 my head, I was telepath that they say something nice 1994 01:49:18.199 --> 01:49:21.199 about Chris. Say something nice about Chris could and then 1995 01:49:21.239 --> 01:49:24.039 you're like, Chris, it was nice meeting you too. I'm like, okay, cool, 1996 01:49:24.079 --> 01:49:28.479 you saved it here, and I'm like a Deb in 1997 01:49:28.520 --> 01:49:31.319 the future, start with the Chris compliment first. 1998 01:49:31.359 --> 01:49:33.199 Then then I don't need it. 1999 01:49:34.039 --> 01:49:37.239 I'm okay, this could be my favorite. 2000 01:49:37.319 --> 01:49:39.159 Let me co host together in the future. 2001 01:49:39.319 --> 01:49:39.840 There you go. 2002 01:49:40.560 --> 01:49:42.960 This is like Nathan with me with the hair and 2003 01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:45.239 now you guys going at it on who's the cute one. 2004 01:49:45.279 --> 01:49:49.199 This is great. I don't think we're gonna beat this on. 2005 01:49:49.399 --> 01:49:54.840 Behalf of Chris Tyler, Nathan Deb's Courtney. This is DJ 2006 01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:59.199 saying peace out, one love, We'll see you down the road. 2007 01:49:59.640 --> 01:50:02.279 And course we're always wondering what's up around the Bend, 2008 01:50:38.279 --> 01:50:38.600 you guys,