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just to set up the rest of the show, we
moved a couple things around, So Jeff Watson and Will
Helmer's will join us at eight fifteen from the G team.
Talk a little nil with them again at eight to fifteen.
We've got chef Michael Johnson to answer your Munchi questions
at nine to fifteen, and we'll catch up with NFL
Hall of Famer Patrick Willis at nine thirty. So still
a lot coming your way here in the show. We're
gonna watch a little tape, watch a little film here.
But we did have a question coming in, got this
one that I wanted to throw your way.
Speaker 3: How will LSU.
Speaker 4: Get all of their blitz packages in when ole miss
is going in hyper speed? As we know, they try
to get to the ball as fast as anybody in
the country. And that's one of the reasons why there's
a misconception of the old Miss offense. Everyone just assumes
that because you go fast, you throw the football. Now
they'll they'll throw the football, but they want to run
it way more than they throw it. So like that's
a part of it. But defensively, when you're as aggressive
as LSU is and you're throwing all different blitzes and
you're coming from everywhere, you're coming from safety, you're coming
from corner cats. Certainly, the linebackers are very active, the
star position, Matthew is very active. How does LSU get
all of that in If Ole Miss is trying to
go fast and can you be as aggressive when they're
going fast.
Speaker 5: The answer to that question is you can't put everything in.
You can't and you can't do every single look you
want to do. Yeah, Ole Mist likes to go fast,
but they are doing a lot of get to the
ball fast and then see what happens. They're gonna check
with me on the sideline, they're gonna get the play calls,
they're gonna get the signals.
Speaker 2: So you do have time to make some calls.
Speaker 5: But what you're doing right now throughout the week is
you are hyper focused on the communication between the linebackers
and the defensive backs. You're working on your signaling, You're
working on your your calls. You're working in in in
practice all week long about Okay, I got one linebacker,
he's got the green dot on his head, he's getting
the call.
Speaker 2: We're also signaling from the sideline, probably to the DB's.
Speaker 5: dB coaches are you know, notorious for signaling to the
corners and the safeties, and they relay it to the
other guys. But you're making sure you're communicating. If you
want to run a full plethora of blitz packages, it
has to be communicate, communicate, communicate, because they get to
the line of scrimmage, and that's what a fast paced
offense wants to do. Yeah, if they want to make
your defenses as vanilla as possible, right, they want to
make you vanilla as possible. And then they also want
to get a good look at what you're trying to do,
and then the coach can make the check with me
or the audibles or the alerts or whatever it is
instead of putting on the quarterback shoulders.
Speaker 2: But just because they go.
Speaker 5: Fast ask to the line of scrimmage doesn't necessarily mean
they snapped the ball fast. I'd like to see what
their average snap on the like what time on the
play clock is because a lot of times there's people
rest of the line of scrimmage, but they still snap
the ball with ten to fifteen seconds left on the
play clock, right, So it's not necessarily so usually you
will have time to make adjustments. But the communication is
paramount from between the linebacker.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now it is easier in college football because
you got the green dot, right Harrol Perkins wearing the
green bays, and you got communication in your helmet and
so like now it falls on if you know perk
to be able to get the call in and you
could codeword a lot of your blitzes too. Hey, every
word that we say that starts with this letter is
going to be this blitz every you know, it doesn't
have to just be hey, hey, corner cat, but hey
we're bringing strike Sam in safety strike.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be that.
Speaker 4: I mean, it can be something that is a code
word for you and old miss. They're college students. They're
not gonna be able to pick up on your code
words within one game.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: It's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: So you can still get it done right, and you
can get everything you've done without having Now you can
hand signal something if you want to.
Speaker 3: Again, college kids aren't gonna pick up a ton of that.
Speaker 4: LSU hasn't had to do that because Clemson didn't go
fast on the road. Every other game has been a
home game, so they've been able to communicate pretty easily.
So if you handle it right and if you prepare right,
it will be a challenge, but it won't be impossible.
Speaker 2: It won't be impossible.
Speaker 5: But again, it's like if we're a team that doesn't
go like when you play a normal team, you can
have maybe twenty different blitzes in you go a game
like this, you want to communicate, You're probably gonna communicate
four or five maybe six. Now when you get a
chance to slow down, if there's a timeout on the field,
and that's when you can call your exotics. Like when
you you're gonna go into the game in a hurry
up situation when they're speeding to the ball they have
that fastballed mentality on offense, you're gonna go in there
with four or five maybe six right and then but
you exotics available. TV timeouts timeouts on the field, injury timeouts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think that Elshu And actually I'd love
to ask Blake Baker this. I do think that LSU's
players have the ability to get the call and the
player that's not actually blitzing has the ability to show
these blitzing and move around, and they give them that
option as long as they end up where they're supposed to.
Because thank you for Blake Baker, you're not hey on
this play, West Weeks, I want you to kind of
actually stutter up a little bit and act like you're
maybe coming and with it's actually you, it's going to
be blitzing. I think they just do a really good
job of understanding where their blitz is coming from. And
it's like in the NFL we call it rock and roll, right,
and it's it's a version of that.
Speaker 3: But I think they do that on their own and
so it's like.
Speaker 2: Who is it's not a complete ad lib. They practiced that.
Speaker 5: The coach is talking about, Hey, you need to you
have the freedom here to disguise or decoy whatever you
want to call it. But to your point, the defense
might have a call and against like an offense like
this that goes fast.
Speaker 2: The defense might have a call.
Speaker 5: It's a pressure call, and it might be if it's
a three by one set, the pressure might be completely different.
Speaker 2: It might be it might be a weak cat. If
it's a two by two set, it.
Speaker 5: Might be a one like an alert flip call and
it becomes a strong dog where they bring the the
Nickel Sam and the Mike linebacker and drop the backside.
Speaker 2: Defense been so.
Speaker 3: Nicol Sam would be called star.
Speaker 5: No. No, so really no, it wouldn't. Don't be dumb.
Don't be dumb right now. Uh no, it is. So
depending on the look you get, it's kind of like
on offense. Offense has an either or type situation. So
from the like a real basic if you have a
route concept, one of them's good. One left side's good
against single high safety, right side is going to good
against two s safety.
Speaker 2: You're gonna throw different routes.
Speaker 5: It's gonna look like a little bit different play from
the outcome depending on the defense you get. Same with defense,
depending on the the offense shows you, the defense might
look completely different.
Speaker 4: We all thought it was a fire alarm, so we
were just we all went all right, we're not you know,
we're not burning up here.
Speaker 5: But against the Old Miss reels. Against these guys, you
gotta be careful.
Speaker 4: The Bears, the Black Bears, the Sharks, the land Sharks,
a lot of nicknames.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, what are we doing?
Speaker 5: Like then they don't even like I don't really actually
know what they're trying to.
Speaker 2: Be Like Auburn.
Speaker 5: So when you face Elane Kiffin offense, he's a really
good play caller, play designer.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 5: He wants to bait you into things. He wants to
do something to make you react to it and then
CounterPunch and react to your reaction.
Speaker 2: Right, So he wants you.
Speaker 5: To bait bait bas So, I told you a lot
that in the first half when Old Miss played Arkansas,
they ran the ball a lot.
Speaker 2: So what does that do.
Speaker 5: You got to bring an extra person into the box
to control that because they had a hard time stop
and a quarterback run, a basic quarterback run. So you
bring people in the box. So what does that do
in the second half? Taylor, go ahead and pull up
this film. I'm gonna show you a I think.
Speaker 3: A three tailor to the tape.
Speaker 5: To the tape, I'm gonna show you three plays in
a row here in this one drive.
Speaker 2: This is in the second half.
Speaker 5: I think this starts with about eight and a half
minutes left in the third quarter. So what after many
many quarterback runs, They're gonna load the box. So we
got a four wide situation. We have five offensive linement,
we have one running back. But how many people are
in the box and what I mean by in the
box in the tackle box, that'd be six defenders, so
you got five to block. Six numbers ain't great. So
that's when Lane Kiffin decides, all right, they're loading the box.
We got some one on one coverage out here. So
we run a simple little two receiver double slant action
down here to the bottom.
Speaker 2: Boom.
Speaker 5: Simple right, Yeah, it's an easy throw, easy throw, take
a little slam. But this is what I'm talking about
with this quarterback. He's not the most talented arm guy.
Like he completes a lot of passes, but they're not
all like perfect passes, Like get a little slant here,
hits them in the back.
Speaker 2: Yip.
Speaker 5: Okay, a little thing, little thing for a quarterback. All right,
next play, same thing, same look on defense. We got
a two bout two exact same formation, Lane Kiffin, We're
gonna call the same play. But instead of running a slant,
we're gonna run a slug go. What is a SLUGO
It's a slant and go. So sets them up. Yeah,
same coverage, Yep, slant and go, same coverage. We couldn't
be more open. All behind him. Still makes a big play,
all right, So go back real quick? All right, right there?
Speaker 4: All right, listeners, if you're watching on YouTube, watch at
the bottom of the screen and watch who throws their
arms up as soon as it happens.
Speaker 3: That would be Lane Kiffen.
Speaker 2: That would be Lank Kivin.
Speaker 3: He knew exactly what he did.
Speaker 2: He knew exactly what he did.
Speaker 5: Because he ran the slant to play before and look
thirteen for Arkansas.
Speaker 4: You trash, yeah, and honestly, like with a better ball,
would have a chance to make a move on safety.
Speaker 2: Third play in this drive, go back to it. Not done.
Speaker 5: This is the So we ran a slant, we ran
a slant and go, and now Lane in the first
half ran behind the line of scrimmage screen passes. What
are we gonna do now, We're gonna fake it and
we're gonna have an opportunity at a touchdown down the
center of the field, right here, but our quarterback, who
I'm not real high on right now, cannot read how
it's supposed to be. You're supposed to bubble screen. You're
supposed to read the inside receiver first and then to
the outside. This is a touchdown. Those are in complete
pass out out of bounds. So here we go.
Speaker 2: Tight hit.
Speaker 3: Was big mad too, big mad running right down the field?
Speaker 5: Why look at Arkansas just walking around. They don't have
no idea what they're doing. Anyway, there we go. Layane
Kiffin will want to set you up.
Speaker 3: He is, He is really good.
Speaker 2: It is a big setup guy.
Speaker 3: It's a slow play and a lot of time.
Speaker 4: Honestly, it's a trait that a lot of coordinators say
they have, but they don't, and they get so excited.
You see it on every level of football. Hell, we
see it in flag football. The you and I coach.
You get a ball play and you're so excited and
it's a new formation and you go out there and
you run it.
Speaker 2: Why are you doing that? You didn't set anything up right.
Speaker 4: So the new formation that you think is going to
trick them, how's it going to trick them when they
don't know it?
Speaker 3: Because first time you've shown it or whatever it might be.
Speaker 4: Sure Lane does a really nice job of understanding, Okay,
I'm going to throw this because later on in the game,
it's going to set up this and I'll throw a
four yard slant to be able to get a forty
yard slant later on in the game. And that's why
you have to stay so disciplined. And LSU, for the
most part, outside of I would say two plays this
year touchdown to Louisiantac in a touchdown of Florida, they
got called back for holding, You've been incredibly disciplined, Like
your defensive backs have done exactly whatever the coverage is asking.
Speaker 3: Them to do.
Speaker 5: And that's what's been impressive about the LSU defense to
date is they're so aggressive, they fly around so much,
they create so much chaos, and you can only do that.
You can only feel confident in doing that as a
defensive coordinator if your guys on the back end are disciplined,
and they have they've shown that. So we got to
be disciplined in all aspects of our defense, and I
have noted doubt that we can. So you got to
be disciplined in the zone read game, the quarterback run game,
and then you got to be disciplined and watch for
the setups, watch for behind the line of scrimmage, and
just don't get don't get complacent in what they're doing.
Don't be like, all right, they keep throwing these screens,
they keep throwing these screens. I'm gonna tamin it. I'm
gonna bust this one up for a tackle for a loss,
and then all of a sudden you get hit with
a fake screen.
Speaker 2: Got down the middle.
Speaker 3: Blake Miller ins, O the chad.
Speaker 4: Did you know that no one has ever said slug
o without immediately explaining that it is a slant then
a go.
Speaker 2: It's fair, It's fair. It's so true.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like man when they when they latch
and they locked things down on the back of their
truck with a strap that ain't going nowhere, That ain't
going nowhere.
Speaker 2: Same thing, yep, she ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very fair.
Speaker 4: Oh, just in case you didn't know that, I'm really good.
Just in case I'm sure there's somebody out there that
and heard that before. No, no, but he's right though,
Like immediately it's like slugo route that is a slint
and go and almost is gonna do it, but they're
gonna set it up before they do a great break
down there from Matthew. All right, we'll take a break
and when we come back, Jeff Watson and Will Helmer's
from Gordon McKernon injury Attorneys will join us here in.
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a little bit about well everything. And I want to
start off saying I thought about y'all and the G
Team the other day because right now currently because obviously
the G Team the nil deals and got Garrett Nessmayer
and everything going on, and you know, bringing players from
the portal they get nil deals. How about this, The
top seven teams in the transfer portal rankings in college
football right now are combined twenty seven and zero. Yeah,
twenty it's not going anywhere.
Speaker 3: That's Jeff.
Speaker 4: That's one thousand percent, right, Because like, no matter how
you felt about it or feel about it, it's like
if you don't get on the train, I always say,
you'll be left at the station with your bag in hand,
waving goodbye to it, and so like it is something
like you have to do. And really, as we all know,
like the G Team is somebody that was on the
forefront of that, and it's been in the game as
long as anybody, certainly here in Baton Rouge since the beginning.
Speaker 7: Keshon Booty was our first football player.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how and then in women's basketball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and at some point had the whole team, uh yeah, different.
Speaker 7: Women's basketball team. We did their entire team, we did
the we've done the entire gymnastics team. A lot of
football players, have some basketball players, and obviously we do
a lot of baseball players too.
Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about with Will.
Speaker 4: I believe last week it's like we all know that
LSU baseball is, you know, bigger here than it's going
to be in most places. But I have to imagine Will,
like you got friends to play for other SEC teams,
and they're probably like, wait a minute, y'all got y'all
got what y'all get all these NIL deals and you'll
get all these things just because you know, people like
the G team understand what baseball means to Baton Rouge exactly.
Speaker 8: I mean, like like y'all said and alluded to, like
NIL is going to create championships now in programs in
the SEC. And and then teams that can pay. You know,
they can win. You know, you're basically paying to win now,
and you know those fans.
Speaker 5: Stab the team to South Carolina. He's like, you say,
up an office here in South Carolina. Uh so, Jeff,
you've been kind of on the forefront, right, Yeah, we.
Speaker 7: Started it with when, like I said, the Kaishawn kind
of was our first deal.
Speaker 5: So how has how has like the the I in
IOL world? Like at first it was kind of the
wild West, right, It's kind of like making the rules
up as we went. But every year it seems to
kind of tighten up a little bit and everybody's starting
to play a little bit by the same rules and everything.
So how has it changed? Like what what's the landscape
of NIL this year compared to past years?
Speaker 7: So now, the biggest thing that you have now is
revenue share, which is where.
Speaker 2: The actual school is allowed.
Speaker 7: To use their revenue to pay players, right, which has
given more a balance to everybody having money. Instead of
just having these Gordons that will come in and do
the third party in il dealers, you actually have the
school that can use some of their revenue and get
more of a playing field. That has also created major
issues in controlling in IL because now we've made it
a free labor market. And there was a federal judge
that just had a decision on the San Diego State
offensive lineman who wanted another year of eligibility, and he
just rolled two days ago, and basically he does a
great analysis of NCAA. You're wrong. This is a labor market.
It's just pay for play. And when you did that,
you can't now control it and you can't tell people
where they can't go, what they can't do. His whole
deal was, I'm missing out on NIO opportunities if you
don't let me play this year. And that's the free market.
And so it's completely changed. Hopefully we'll get to a
point where we have some collective bargaining in a union
type situation.
Speaker 3: Time like we had in the NFL.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it has cooint and that's what the lawsuits are.
House settlement came down, and then now anyone that tries
to restrict that, a lawsuit will be filed, and then
changes will be made, and eventually Congress will congress and
or NCAA or collect the bargaining in the union. Don't
know how that's going to look lately, later, but that
will happen and get us into a structured environment. So
the NCAA can truly say here's our sandbox. We negotiated
these rules with the players. If you want to play,
this is our rules. Hey, I would say, and will
you know this better than I do?
Speaker 4: I would say baseball has been as affected as anybody
because you can be drafted out of high school and
now you're getting players on campus because of nil situations
of like, hey you can actually come here. You got
a little safety net in this nil because before, like
if you got offered a million dollars out of high
school and you didn't sign, you came to school, you
had to go because you you didn't.
Speaker 3: Know if you were going to come to school and
be the same player.
Speaker 8: I mean, you can get first round money now without
going to the draft and get you get the whole
college experience.
Speaker 2: And and why would you not?
Speaker 3: I think guys like that, right yeah, I mean cry
right now, Curio Schmidt.
Speaker 8: You get all these guys that pile into this program
that could have been you know first, you know, the
first three rounds of the draft, and they're getting the
same money in similar money, you know, to come play
and experienced college.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They're they're not going on a bus ride and random fa.
Speaker 8: We're taking we're taking charter flights and Dixie Land buses.
Speaker 3: And lu's facilities are not.
Speaker 2: And so you're to.
Speaker 3: Get better to play for the mud Hens. I don't
know who the mud Hens.
Speaker 2: Are, it's just the first definitely a team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So Jeffy, you were talking about like the this
year being a revenue sharing situation, so it's tightening up
the rules. And so now n I L gets to
be you strictly like what it's meant to be name
image likeness, which is kind of what y'all are doing
it exactly. Always out it that way exactly, instead of
like here's a collective, here's this money from this company,
go buy this player. Like now it's name image likeness,
so it can be used perfectly, which is the way
it should be, Like a kid should be able to
make money off of using his image. But I know
there's also like this governing body that looks at making
sure it's fair market value for that work. How is
fair market value judged? And who is actually making that
final determination.
Speaker 7: So there's a committee that looks at that and you
nailed it. It's what is fair market value? Loreel or
someone can look at your beard and say that's the
greatest I've ever seen and I want to pay you
a million dollars for it. No one can come and
say no, you can't. Yeah, and that's the problem, is
what So what they've set up is to keep a
quarterback that starts in the SEC kind of on the
same level, a starting running back in the SEC, same level.
But as soon as those deals get rejected, the lawsuits
are gonna come. Yeah, and we're gonna which is what
we want. We want to get closer to structure, right,
And the only way that's gonna happen is if Congress
gets involved or lawsuits are filed, and so fair market value.
They say they don't use fair market value, and then
they have a definition which is literally the definition of
fair market value. Yeah, but they don't want to use
that word. But yes, that's that's a major issue, and
we already had it happened. So a lot of deals
got rejected, big deals, and so the plane of lawyers
in the House Settlement came back and said, well, we're
gonna follow suit on this. We think you can't do that.
And so they redid the rules and say, okay, COLLECTI
if you're back in play, but you got to make
them do something. Sign autographs, show up at golf tournaments.
They can do something. And yeah, before it was nothing.
It was just a collective given.
Speaker 2: Money Leonard situation. Yeah, yeah, sure.
Speaker 4: Sure, all right, So whenever you're trying to okay, we're
gonna have these athletes, we want them on the g team.
Like Smyers probably pretty obvious he's a quarterback of LSU,
But like, what are maybe those conversations like like, who's
somebody that we want to work with? Because you want
to make sure that you're partnering with people, Like do
you lean on somebody like like Will obviously like he's
not playing anymore, but he's got great relationships over there, Like, hey,
tell me a little bit about this guy, because you
want to make sure you have.
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Speaker 7: We have a team on marketing team that Chloe and
Alex and they work on that and they will do
a scrub and they're gonna look at all the social
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and then Gordon's gonna interview them. Yeah, and he's gonna
sit down in front of him and gonna ask him
what do you like? Tell me, you know, and he's
gonna go through it all. And we kind of go
through a process of players that we want, Are they available?
Is it someone that we can put on the team,
And that's kind of how it falls down, and we
get to our team.
Speaker 5: If I was twenty years younger, yeah, we got would
you think I'd be invited to be on the G team?
Speaker 2: And how many billboards would it be?
Speaker 7: So you from Texas, our goal, My goal is always
starting quarterback. And I had this conversation with Marlon whatever
somebody podcast with him and he wanted to know his
NIL evaluation.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 7: From Matt, of course big fav one Matt would be
I mean, just like Marlon, he would be starting quarterback
on a highly ranked team. He would be in the
seven figures easily on his rev share plus three buckets.
You got your rev share, your scholarship right and your
third party in io deals and so L s U
and nil. They would set him up with you know,
Canes and Jewel Forden and like they would set him
up with some third party in io deals and.
Speaker 5: So you just talked about earlier, Like now that it's
pay for play, it's gonna be hard to tell me.
I don't have eligibility left, so can I go back?
Speaker 3: Well, you read shirted your out. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I suffered through COVID year though.
Speaker 3: You were thirty five. I think that when that happened.
Speaker 4: So you're telling me my wife would not have had
to drop out of school and get a full time
job because our doolllarship check didn't cover half our rent
back in two thousand and seven, Like we'd have done.
Speaker 7: Okay, your personality and you would have fit so many
companies out there, Jacob, you would have you would have
done very well.
Speaker 3: You would have little too early more a little too early.
Speaker 2: It's okay, wasn't your fault.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're glad that, you know, because we'll you got
into the back end because you started college.
Speaker 8: So I started. Yeah, my sophomore year. At the end
of my sophomore year is when it really kind of
took shape and there no rules, you know, and it
was it was a free for all, and so you had,
you know, all these different athletes and whatever they wanted
for whatever. Yeah, and so now that there's a little
bit of structure to it and a little more you know,
you know there's rules, right, you know that you know
LSU has to follow, that players have to follow, that
small businesses, businesses have to follow like Gordon, and in
order to pay these players, it's you know, taking shape
and like we said earlier, it's not going anywhere, and so.
Speaker 2: You know, get used to it.
Speaker 4: How exciting How exciting was it though when you were
in the locker room them and all of a sudden
you're like, wait, we can do what we can. We
can make money off our name, image and likeness. Like
what was that moment?
Speaker 8: Like, well, for me it wasn't you know great, I was,
But for a lot of guys, you know, that was awesome. Yeah,
you know, and for all athletes at LSU, because you know,
it's your name, image and likeness and you put.
Speaker 4: It on l She does a really good job of
embracing it and putting out Think about the LSU brand
in itself, you know, as soon as you commit and
you play for LSU, you're part of that brand no
matter what.
Speaker 8: And so you know, having the opportunity to you know,
link yourself with that brand and your name, image and likeness,
it's huge.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this from a from from the
business owner's perspective, Like I know, a lot of it
is because a business owner might love the university, love
the players, and want to contribute to that. But a
lot of companies they're doing it to get their company's
name out there to bring in extra revenue.
Speaker 2: And I would say that's the goal for all of it.
Speaker 5: But is there analytics out there yet because it's still
so early, Like what the return on investment is for
business owners.
Speaker 2: That's a great question.
Speaker 7: And I think aligning yourself with ls people have always
aligned themselves with LSU and tried to but now being
able to align yourself with a player is just even
more me People have a favorite player for sure, and
if they're deciding am I going to go here or here?
And like ooh, I saw him doing something with you know,
Aaron Anderson might be you know or nus Meyer. You
know that to be able to evaluate that, it's tough.
I know in our world because our marketing personal injury
is more of the commercials in the billboards and stuff,
so it's probably not our best return of investment. But
Gordon's whole deal is number one, I want to support LSU,
but two, I want to promote these kids and push
these kids and promote these kids, and hopefully they'll get
more deals. And if they go up in their name,
image and likeness, then we go up along with them.
And that's kind of been our attitude and kind of
the way we look at it. Why we do the
research that we do to make sure that we're aligning
ourselves with the proper fits.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it is certainly I appreciated seeing all those
LSU athletes on all the different advertisement that y'all do there.
Speaker 3: Jeff Will, We appreciate y'all. Man, Thank y'all for coming in.
Speaker 7: Having good Thanks for having us.
Speaker 4: All right, more OTB reminder, we do have NFL Hall
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Speaker 9: Now, I just found game.
Speaker 3: I can't play.
Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven. You're
listening to Off the Bench.
Speaker 7: And my heart seeking Mack say so.
Speaker 4: Saying, Matthew, how does that feel? Somebody telling you you
would have made seven pigres?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: You would have had two iPhones on your belt loop
if that was the case, not just one.
Speaker 2: I had a just a bigger belt loop. I was flattered.
That had been fun. Oh man, somebody said I would
have made a ton.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, Bilbo, you're right. The amount of Tyron Matthew
missed out on the Honey Badger shirts that just Bingles
Abandons alone would have sold is insane.
Speaker 5: Flinny raking in the dough from the no Show ankle
socks endorsement.
Speaker 4: I wear no show ankle socks. It's our age. I
get it. I know it's our age.
Speaker 2: These are shows.
Speaker 3: These are the I wear shows.
Speaker 4: Yeah, both the ark I got black no show?
Speaker 2: What's no show?
Speaker 4: I ain't wearing a mid calf sock. What am I
the basic creative player on n C double.
Speaker 6: As all the time? Hey?
Speaker 2: Why do I work these calves out?
Speaker 3: Hide them? You don't hide that light under a bush.
Speaker 2: I don't like with myself. It is weird.
Speaker 5: It was first time I heard it, like probably two
three months ago. It's almost say, you're really showing your
age with those no shows.
Speaker 6: Yeah, why are people showing their socks?
Speaker 10: Be honest, I don't know who told you that. Everybody
my age wears.
Speaker 4: Everybody who doesn't, everybody twenty and under mid calf.
Speaker 3: That's so weird.
Speaker 2: It's like the starting like the crossfits.
Speaker 3: Wear, like the Nike elites.
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess, yeah, I guess sometimes I wear
long socks, but like usually I wear no shows. I
don't think if I'm working out, like maybe like.
Speaker 10: If I'm wearing a suit, right, I was gonna say
the only long socks I own.
Speaker 2: Or dress socks.
Speaker 5: So growing up it was like, yeah, mid calf, gold toes,
the gold have gold toe socks. You got like thirty
nine socks in one bag. And then when the like
the only no shows were like golf socks and they
had like the little the rolled up like little thing
on the back on the back of you. And then
when they started to become popular, the nose shows. It
was life altering. Yeah, it was a game changer. So like,
don't you take that away from it?
Speaker 6: Why do I want to wear vands with like my
socks peaking?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes no sense. That's a bad look. I
just good. I got high tops with my socks.
Speaker 5: Look at that clear definition, that clear definition, you could
clearly see where the calf starts in the ankle.
Speaker 6: You're not even wearing no shows.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're not.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I'm not wearing today, but leg
talking about it.
Speaker 3: So if you're not really in the gang, I only
wear no shows, well you kind of oppose it.
Speaker 5: If I wear high tops, I wear higher socks, makes sense,
makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: If I wear low shoes, I wear no shoes.
Speaker 10: It's it's weird these little, these little black no shows
I wear. I wear those with my boots.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, me too, even when even when I'm wearing
boots I wear.
Speaker 2: Maybe my ankles are too big, it just rubs up
against them. But I don't want that skin to shoot friction.
Speaker 3: I won't.
Speaker 6: I won't say that I have.
Speaker 3: Like start a fire with those ankles.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say I have full on kinkles. But my
ankles can't be a little thick.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying. But I cannot confirm or deny.
Speaker 10: I can see Matt wearing boots like reaching down. What's
the problem these boots are giving me rug burn.
Speaker 2: They do, I think gold bond from my ankles. Little
little chase down.
Speaker 5: The Oh my gosh, that's good clean fun, good clean fun,
good clean fun.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: What's going on in sports this weekend is a lot
ooh lots I don't know what's going to be the
game of the week, but damn it, one of these
games better live up to what I think it's going
to be. I think the leader in the clubhouse to
live up to it would be the obvious three versus six,
Penn State versus Oregon in a whiteout situation in Happy Valley.
I think both those teams are good. I don't know
if they're great, and maybe we'll find out if one
of them is great on Saturday, So that one's hard
to get away from for me.
Speaker 2: It's a big one. It's a big boy like.
Speaker 4: There it's three versus six, but it very easily could
be two versus three or two versus four.
Speaker 2: Like, there's not a lot of difference in the top
six teams.
Speaker 10: It's not ranked on rank, but I think A and
m Alvern it's going to be a really good game.
It's a college station, yeah, it's it's a two thirty,
so it's it's head to head with LSU will miss,
so we won't be watching a ton of it.
Speaker 2: But that's got a chance to be a really good one.
Where is uh?
Speaker 3: We're gaming to see that game being plunky game?
Speaker 7: Damn?
Speaker 2: How are they not at all, Miss.
Speaker 3: Oran, Oh yeah, Organan say yeah, yeah, it's three or six.
Speaker 4: Wonder if they'll go, I wonder if they'll go, Oh
we got Alcaim, we got Alabama.
Speaker 5: Georgia forgot like we get this sweet with a lot
of answers in that game.
Speaker 6: Answers, they're not that intrigued by it.
Speaker 2: Really, No, it's not really.
Speaker 3: Doing much for me for what reason, And that's.
Speaker 6: Not honestly, Alabama itself is not doing a lot for
me this season. I know they're ranged number seventeen, but
I just it doesn't have like the physicality and just
like the excitement that it used to have.
Speaker 5: And I.
Speaker 6: Look so nice soft to me. I don't know, like
I don't really know if he is or not, but
the vibe that he gives me, I just I'm not
intrigued by Alabama.
Speaker 4: I yeah, I kind of understand what you're saying. The
old thing, to Matt's point, that would intrigue me with
this game is to see where Alabama is. Because it's
so funny how this works, and it happens all the
time certainly in our business. We just we overreact to everything.
So they lose to Florida State, and we're like done,
and then you know, Matt does the bab's parting and
like everybody right, and so like like everybody kind of
piled on. And then they go beat ULM Louis Monroe
seventy three to nothing. Look, ULLM is actually much better
this year. But Alabama's always gonna win that game. And
they had a point to prove in that game. They
were gonna try to score as many as they could. Well,
then they come back and they beat Wisconsin thirty eight
to fourteen, and we're like, oh man, they beat a
Big ten team.
Speaker 3: Wisconsin's terrible. Wisconsain's a bad football team.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it's like we were high, high high, then we
got real low, then we got high again. It's like,
should we be that high or we should we be
somewhere in the middle. I think we should be somewhere
in the middle. But to your point of Landra, like
there's not a lot of intrigue into the game outside
of where is Alabama from. Yeah, I think it's gonna
be right.
Speaker 6: I just think that like we, like Matt said, and
like you just said, we're gonna get answers about who
Alabama is from this game. But them like, I'm just
not into it. But Georgia is always always fun to watch,
so like that part of it, sure, but I'm.
Speaker 4: Just like that has been kryptonid. I guess a little
bit for Kirby, he's only beating Bama one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's my thing.
Speaker 10: I think this is gonna tell us who Georgia is
a Georgia correct, I think we know. I kind of
think we know who Alabama is. Their team that's gonna
beat up on the small ones. And again, I understand
they didn't play well against Florida Tody Simpson five incompletions
in two games. It's hard to do against anybody, but again,
look at the competition. But Georgia has not been able
to get over the Alabama home for whatever reason. They
did they did one time under Kirby. Outside of that,
he's he struggled against the Bama Like, this is gonna
tell us a lot about Georgia.
Speaker 5: It's a line to your point, Andra, like the lack
of juice coming from the Alabama program right now for
whatever reason, right or wrong, that's how we feel about it.
I hadn't watched a snap of Alabama football. Like I
told you, I got five games going on at once.
Speaker 6: The line is Uga minus three and a half.
Speaker 4: The so almost almost to pick them since in Athens,
I mean getting home bombed.
Speaker 10: The Boar almost looks depressed, like borderline tears.
Speaker 2: Whenever they're losing.
Speaker 10: It's like it's like there's there's not a lot of
juice from him. And I think he's a good coach,
but there is just something missing about it.
Speaker 2: But I'm actually intrigued.
Speaker 10: Just because of the the Georgia aspect, Like I think
they're really good and again, how good is Alabama? But
if they could at least get over that hump, I
think that tells us a lot about them.
Speaker 4: I think we just talked to ourselves into being excited
about the game that we weren't that excited about.
Speaker 2: Look at us, not me, not I.
Speaker 3: Now I don't know how much of I'm going to watch.
Speaker 2: I have more in the night game.
Speaker 3: You can't watch it it is, but it goes up
against the air. I'll be watching on the plane. That
is always fun. After LSU wins.
Speaker 4: It is always fun to watch whatever the game of
the week is if you have like the two thirty game,
So I'll be watching it in the air. That's not
a quick or sorry, it is a quick. It's not
a long plane ride, but I'll watch it in the air.
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just saying on that note, will take a break. We've
got chef Michael Johnson joining us at nine fifteen. We've
got NFL Hall of Famer former old Miss Rebel Patrick
Willis at nine thirty.
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Speaker 1: Locked in on l s U football twenty four to seven.
You're listening to off the Bench.
Speaker 4: Maybe who's gonna rod?
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back?
Speaker 4: Yeah it is oh t B here on this Thursday morning.
Talked about a couple of games going on across the
college football landscape in the last segment.
Speaker 2: Too.
Speaker 4: Sleepy games, sleeping going under the radar a little bit.
On Friday, Tatan mentioned I think it was a TCU
in Arizona State. That's gonna be that's gonna be a
fun game. I think TCU is actually really, really good.
Speaker 10: Now his favorite furry has eleven touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Very good.
Speaker 2: Any furry updates from him, It wouldn't. I don't think
it was true.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, got a thousand yards on the year already. Arizona
State I think lost to it. Mississippi State team is
gonna prove that they're.
Speaker 2: Actually a good football team, Jeff Levy.
Speaker 4: Then you've got Florida State traveling to UVA. Now Virginia's
three and one, they should be four and oh, Chandler
Morris mits a wide open guy in the last drive
of the game. If he throws it, they score, they win.
Speaker 3: They should be four and oh.
Speaker 4: There's three and one though, and Chandler Morris has thrown
for over a thousand yards already in this season. Florida
State's only a six and a half point favorite. Those
are two ranked teams going on the road against teams
that are very dangerous for them. So we get a
little bit of action on a Friday night.
Speaker 6: I like that TCU Arizona State game.
Speaker 2: Levin versus Hoover. I mean, that's that's a big dumb.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a fun one. We got a fun hour.
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