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We're prohibited by law 46 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:03.920 terms and conditions of black see website for details. 47 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:16.240 You are now listening to True Murder the most shocking 48 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:19.360 killers in true crime history and the authors that have 49 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:26.719 written about them. Gasey Bundy, Dahmer, The Nightstalker BTK Every 50 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:30.439 week another fascinating author talking about the most shocking and 51 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:34.719 infamous killers in true crime history. True Murder with your 52 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:48.240 host journalist and author Dan Zupanski. Good evening. 53 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.159 This book tells the story of five different homicide cases 54 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:57.080 from Kansas City, Missouri, as told by the prosecutor who 55 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:02.400 handled the cases himself. Fill the vota five different stories 56 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:04.879 of the five chapters to tell the different tale of 57 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:09.080 true crime from the criminal's perspective, the police perspective, and 58 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:13.680 the prosecution perspective. The Jackson County Prosecutor's Office and the 59 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:17.199 Kansas City Police Department were involved in obtaining justice for 60 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:21.240 the victims. From the horrific crime where the murderer made 61 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.840 his son help him cut off the victim's head and hands, 62 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:28.159 to the robbery and rape of the sweet neighborhood grandmother. 63 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:31.120 This is a hard to put down book that keeps 64 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:35.439 you wanting more. The book that we're featuring this evening 65 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:39.840 is his Name was Murder. Real Kansas City crime stories 66 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:43.680 from the prosecutor with my special guest, journalist and author 67 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:47.400 and prosecutor Phil Levoda. Welcome to the program, and thank 68 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:50.800 you very much for greeted this interview Phil Levoda. 69 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:53.719 Thank you Dan for having men, Sir appreciate it. 70 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:59.960 Thank you very much. Some incredible, unique stories from Kansas City, 71 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:04.120 the Missouri. So let's start off with what is your 72 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:09.280 personal tie and background in law that brought you to 73 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:12.560 being a prosecutor in Jackson County. 74 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:15.639 Well, thanks for having me. First of all, I sure 75 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:18.720 appreciate that we having this international audience. So it's an 76 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:20.600 honor to be on your program, So thank you for 77 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:24.399 the opportunity. You know, I started off I'm a Kansity 78 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:29.839 guy actually born in Independence, Missouri. Started my interest in 79 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:32.279 the criminal justice area. I went to Central Missouri State 80 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:35.439 University and got a criminal justice degree and didn't know 81 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:38.240 whether I would follow into some law enforcement worker as 82 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:42.240 an attorney, but then went to law school and in 83 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:45.040 my third year of law school, I had the opportunity 84 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:49.199 to be an intern at the Jackson County prosct Attorney's Office. 85 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:53.879 Jackson County is the county that Kansas City, Missouri is in, 86 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:56.639 that's on the western side of Missouri. The people of 87 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:58.600 Frommith the state of Missouri. Saint Louis is on the east 88 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.759 of Kansas City on the west. The Jackman County prosecut 89 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:06.399 Attorney's Office is the largest prosecutorial office in five states, 90 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.519 and we had over one hundred prosecutors in the office 91 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:13.319 and handled all of the state felony serious crimes from 92 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:15.920 homicides to robbery, to rape to that type of thing. 93 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:18.600 And so I had the opportunity as a third year 94 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:21.800 to be hired by the prosecutor's office to be an 95 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:26.120 intern in the state of Missouri. As a third year 96 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:30.720 law student, the law allows you to actually appear in 97 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:32.959 court on behalf of the state if you have a 98 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:35.639 supervisor attorney with you. And I had the opportunity in 99 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:38.800 my third year law school to try eight cases and 100 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.680 to give opening statements to cross them witnesses give the 101 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:45.839 closing argument in homicide cases. So I just fell in 102 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:48.920 love with being a prosecutor and being the guy with 103 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:50.560 a white hat and being the guy that was putting 104 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:54.399 the bad guy's a way. As I graduated from law school, 105 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:58.519 I was given an opportunity to go to law school, 106 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:00.639 which I loved and I actually excelled at it, and 107 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:03.360 I had a couple of different offers to go work 108 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:05.920 for a big firm or to go work for the 109 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:09.439 Jackson Process Office making no money, and I decided to 110 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:13.759 go make no money working as a prosecutor, which I loved, 111 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:17.800 and I worked there for ten years. I was hired 112 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:22.680 by now United States Center Claire mccaskell. She was the 113 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:25.839 county prosecutor at that time, and in my stent over 114 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.959 a decade, we had several prosecutors come and go. I 115 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:34.920 had the opportunity to try so many jury trials have 116 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.680 such a great impact on the community. One of the 117 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:41.879 job opportunities I had was to supervise the Neighborhood Prosecution Unit, 118 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:44.480 where we worked with the police department out in the community, 119 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:49.519 and I just loved it. I loved being in court 120 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:54.839 and being the last offense from someone that viciously violently 121 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:59.000 killed someone, whether they go to prison or go free. 122 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:02.759 And I loved that opportunit so as I did that. 123 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:06.959 You know, when you're in the prosecution business at dinner 124 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:08.959 parties of social events, so I think people would like 125 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:12.079 to ask you what type of cases you're working on, 126 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:14.680 what's going on with that? And I in my book 127 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:16.680 I put in the four or book. I also would 128 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:19.879 have dinner with my grandmother every Tuesday night. I mean 129 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:22.319 I was a poor government worker, and she would make 130 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:24.600 me a hot, home cooked meal so I wouldn't miss it. 131 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:26.920 And every Tuesday night I would sit with my grandmother 132 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:29.439 and she would We would talk about all sorts of things, 133 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:31.399 but it would always get around to what cases are 134 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:35.160 you working on? And I would tell her, here's what's 135 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:38.720 going on, here's this case. And she loved to hear 136 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:41.560 because people love hearing true crime stories. But I also 137 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:45.600 I love talking to her about because I got feedback 138 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:49.920 from her, which is what the average person of what 139 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:51.839 would be one of my jurors would say to me. 140 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:54.360 They'd ask me questions you know that I didn't think about, 141 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:59.040 because you get in to the owns and the dirt 142 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:02.120 of trying this case, legality and this Supreme Court case 143 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:04.839 and this and that, and you forget sometimes as a 144 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:08.600 young prosecutor, it's the theater of the courtroom. And these 145 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:11.480 jurors are twelve people from the community. They don't know 146 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:15.240 the law, but they're watching everything that happens. And so 147 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.160 as I would tell these stories to my grandmother, she'd 148 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:19.360 asked me questions, and I would think, you know, I 149 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:21.800 didn't think about that, but I'll actually one of these 150 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:24.199 twelve jurors were, and I would make sure I took 151 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:27.480 that into the courtroom with me and made sure I 152 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.920 used that common sense and relating to jurors. So that's 153 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:33.399 what kind of got me. After I left the prosecutor's 154 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.639 office and went into private practice, I would still hear 155 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:39.559 about stories and see what people had asked me, what 156 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.440 was your most interesting story? And so I sat down 157 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:47.200 and I had ordered the files of some of the 158 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:50.120 most unique cases that I had, and I didn't have 159 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:53.279 some of the most high profile cases here in Kansas City. 160 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:56.360 If your prosecutor, people will say did you did you 161 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:59.399 do the Boberdella case and some of the high profile cases, 162 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:02.200 And I didn't have those, but I had some very 163 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:05.679 unique ones that are great stories, I guess, for lack 164 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.919 of a better phrase to compare them or explain them. 165 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:13.440 And I thought, you know, I'm gonna put these down 166 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.120 in writing and I'm gonna tell these stories. And so 167 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:18.360 I sat down, and that's what got me to the 168 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:19.679 point of putting this book together. 169 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:25.279 Now, before we get into this first story, when we 170 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:29.600 talk about gang rivalry and some very very very bad 171 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:33.440 decisions and robbery gone very very bad. And Dennis Moore 172 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:35.840 just tell us a little bit, just set up the 173 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:38.720 where this occurs in Jackson County. Just tell us a 174 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:41.919 little bit about Jackson County and the kind of neighborhood 175 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.200 where in mid ninety nineteen ninety five something like this 176 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:46.759 could happen. 177 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:51.399 Well, Kansas City, Missouri. It's a city of more than 178 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:54.639 four and seventy thousand people and it's the thirty seventh 179 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:59.600 largest city by population in the nation. The city itself, 180 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:04.720 it's some nationwide popularity of talking about the Kantee Royals 181 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:07.600 and the can See Chiefs, and we're right on the 182 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:13.320 Kansas line, so we have a very big, natural wide population. 183 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:18.679 But the Kansas City area where most of my crimes occur, 184 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.919 is more of the inner city, and the inner city 185 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:26.840 has a lot of problems. And throughout my book, I 186 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:30.279 had a university professor that is actually having people read 187 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:32.399 my book and it's not for the crime part, for 188 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:35.879 the sociology because he's found that every one of my 189 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:41.799 stories talks about how drugs lead good people to make 190 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:47.159 bad decisions, how parenting and the lack of parenting leads 191 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:50.679 people to make bad decisions, and so most of these 192 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:57.120 all these stories are kind of, I guess, a microcosm 193 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:59.039 of what's going on in the inner cities in our 194 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:01.799 entire country. And all these people that have got involved 195 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:06.320 have decided that crime is better than getting a job, 196 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:09.960 that drugs making more money than going to work, and 197 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:14.639 the violence is the answer to solving problems. So that's 198 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:18.759 where the common weave throughout this book is. And the 199 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.159 first case you're talking about is about the gang rivalry 200 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:26.919 and how people make urble decisions based on violence when 201 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:29.679 you're talking about selling drugs. 202 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:35.120 So let's introduce to characters in this story. As Dennis 203 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:37.399 Moore is twenty four years old, and you introduce him 204 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:41.559 as a guy that wears red clothing and a flashy car, 205 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:45.639 a custom nineteen seventy one in palate convertible. He has 206 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:49.440 gang ties, but not but he's not the only guy 207 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:51.759 that does. And you always say that again, you say 208 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:55.759 gang retaliation is an endless cycle. And he meets this 209 00:11:55.879 --> 00:12:00.320 Johnny Chapel, So he's nineteen years old. So introduce these 210 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:02.679 two characters and how they meet even though they're not 211 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:06.039 really on the same side. Gang wise how this works, 212 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:07.360 because this is important to. 213 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:12.360 The story exactly. So, Dennis Moore was more of an entrepreneur, 214 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:15.000 if you can say a drug dealer as an entrepreneur 215 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.480 that he was a gang member. He realized early in 216 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.080 his drug dealing career that it shouldn't matter to him 217 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:25.279 who he sold drugs to. In the neighborhood he lived, 218 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:28.919 it was definitely two rival gangs. If you wore the 219 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:32.639 wrong color, you weren't get shot at. Dennis Moore didn't 220 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:36.759 think about that. He was flashy. He had his car 221 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:41.279 all tricked out with everything. It's convertible, and when he 222 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:43.399 showed up in the neighborhood, it's like the ice cream 223 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.320 man was coming. And everyone knew Dennis Moore and everyone 224 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:49.000 knew what he's up to. And if you needed any drugs, 225 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:50.440 Dennis Moore was the guy to get it. And he 226 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:53.840 would drive around the neighborhood of a several block area 227 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:57.279 in Kansas City and he was well known. Well. He 228 00:12:57.639 --> 00:13:02.000 met a younger guy, Johnny Chappel, And you know, as 229 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:05.960 the drug dealing goes, sometimes you're sitting around doing nothing, 230 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:08.200 you're getting ready to get in trouble or getting ready 231 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:09.639 to sell some drugs or getting ready to run away 232 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.240 from the police. So Johnny Chappell and Dennis Moore started 233 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.720 a relationship with friendship. They'd hang out together, they would 234 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:19.519 go drinking together, they'd go drive around and talk to 235 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:23.559 girls together, They'd do drugs together. And even though Dennis 236 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:26.200 Moore essentially was from the other side of the gang 237 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:29.200 than Johnny Chappell, they started kind of relationship and they 238 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:34.200 started hanging out together, and which was fine. Dennis Moore 239 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:39.519 made money, Johnny Chappell got cheaper drugs. But when it 240 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:44.039 came to the other members of Johnny Chapel's gang, there 241 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:46.759 were other guys that did not like that Johnny Chappell 242 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:48.200 was hanging around with Dennis Moore. 243 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:51.519 Now, as a result, you introduced a few more characters. 244 00:13:51.559 --> 00:13:56.159 In one night in September, these guys are with Mark 245 00:13:56.200 --> 00:14:00.440 Powell with his roommate Matthew Gully, and then their friend 246 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:04.840 Wilson and Amy Chapel and Miller, and the conversation of 247 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:07.600 Dennis Moore comes up as you say that people are 248 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.279 having a problem. So what's this conversation like and what 249 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:18.080 is the connection with or the problem with Miller and Chapel. 250 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:22.480 Well, Calvin Miller was without a death and most violent 251 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:26.039 gang member inside the circle that Johnny Chapel hung out with, 252 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:30.320 and Johnny Chappell had his brother, Ronald Chapel. They were 253 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:34.960 hanging around with him, Trevor Wilson and Mark Powell and 254 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:38.120 Matthew Gollie. So I'm throwing a lot of names out 255 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:41.000 at you, but just basically understand that there's a bunch 256 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:45.200 of guys that are in a gang. And Calvin Miller 257 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:49.399 did not like the fact that Johnny Chappell was hanging 258 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:53.360 around with Dennis More And one time they were over 259 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:55.559 at someone's house, hanging out in the alley. They were 260 00:14:55.600 --> 00:15:00.159 smoking to PCP, they were drinking all day. And Calvin Miller, 261 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:04.519 who was a violent guy, was also a guy that 262 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:07.840 didn't miss an opportunity to rob someone and steal someone 263 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:13.799 and make some money. And he started chiding Johnny Chappell 264 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.559 about hanging out with Dennis Moore. Why would you do that, 265 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:19.240 He's not part of our gang. Johnny said, he's my friend. 266 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.799 Don't give me such a hard time about it. And 267 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:28.440 Calvin Miller said, oh, I'm going to, and unprovoked grabbed 268 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:30.919 Johnny by the throat and put bullet a gun against 269 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:32.720 his head and said, here's what you're gonna do, or 270 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:35.279 I'm gonna shoot you. Now, everybody else in the gang, 271 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:37.879 they're all buddies. They all grow up together, their buddies, 272 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:43.080 and that no one wanted to cross Calvin Miller. Calvin 273 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.519 had a story. We never really found out an investigation 274 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:50.919 that he had murdered anyone except the charge he got 275 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:52.840 charged with. But he was known to be a violent guy, 276 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:55.320 and he was known to have possibly had some homicide 277 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:58.559 that nothing was ever proved, so bad reason to be 278 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:04.840 intimidated and afraid and hesitant to cross Calvin Millman. So 279 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:08.480 even his brother, Johnny Tavil's brother did not intervene when 280 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:12.559 this happened. But as John as Calvin Miller put his 281 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:15.879 gun to Johnny Chapel's head, he said, well, if that's 282 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:18.639 the way you feel, you're gonna show us and we're 283 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:21.279 gonna go rob Dennis Moore, and you're gonna help us 284 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:25.600 do that, or I'm gonna kill you. And people in 285 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:28.200 regular society throw around the world, I'll kill you, I'll 286 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:32.159 kill you, and it doesn't really mean anything. If Calvin 287 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:36.399 Miller told you on the streets of Kansasity Missouri that 288 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:39.440 he was gonna kill you. You should take it seriously. 289 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:45.559 Now you talk about Dennis Moore. Back to Dennis Moore, 290 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:49.960 and he has a girlfriend named Natasha Morgan. So tell 291 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:52.639 me tell us a little bit about Natasha Morgan and 292 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:55.399 her baby before we move on. 293 00:16:55.360 --> 00:17:02.000 To what happens Natasha Morgan. 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