Speaker 1: All right, welcome into the first edition of Coffee and Company,
Speaker 1: fueled by Thornton's Here in the year at twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, everybuddy, Nick Coffee. That's me. We've got
Speaker 1: the one and only mister Austin Montgomery alongside as we
Speaker 1: take you up until six o'clock. And I was gonna
Speaker 1: say it's a Monday, but it's not. It feels like
Speaker 1: a Monday. We've had the same consecutive weeks where we
Speaker 1: have some holiday downtime on Tuesday and Wednesday. Both Wednesdays
Speaker 1: were holidays where I assume, I mean, I know we
Speaker 1: weren't working, Austin, but maybe some others were. But then
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, I filled in for Cruise in the
Speaker 1: morning on HAS and then we did the postgame show
Speaker 1: later on, so we didn't really feel like a normal
Speaker 1: work day. And then of course Christmas Eve last week,
Speaker 1: we were off. So I love the days that we
Speaker 1: get off, even if some days, you know, even if
Speaker 1: it's not a full day, maybe a half day. Like
Speaker 1: the holiday season is great. That downtime between Christmas and
Speaker 1: New Year's is awesome. But as someone who is a
Speaker 1: very relying upon structure and consistency. I'm ready for next Monday.
Speaker 1: That sounds weird to say because it's a Thursday. We
Speaker 1: got Friday next week. But I just need I need
Speaker 1: some consistency. I need routine. And my New Year's resolution
Speaker 1: every year, for I don't know, the last four years
Speaker 1: is nothing big time, no kind of huge challenge. It's
Speaker 1: just start the year nick being a little bit more productive,
Speaker 1: make better use of your time. Just try to be productive,
Speaker 1: you know. I try to always make sure I'm keeping
Speaker 1: an eye on what I eat, being healthy, like most
Speaker 1: of the New Year's New Year's resolutions that are very
Speaker 1: common every year. I'm not great at it, but I
Speaker 1: try to throughout the year, you know, pay attention to
Speaker 1: those things at least, like I don't know sixty percent,
Speaker 1: So happy to you everybody. I'm not sure if you
Speaker 1: guys have New Year's resolutions, but for me, again, it's
Speaker 1: always just being productive and I am not as self
Speaker 1: disciplined whenever I've got a half work week.
Speaker 2: It sounds like everybody now has hit the ground running
Speaker 2: right within the new year, because last week when we
Speaker 2: came in, it's still that dull area in between holidays
Speaker 2: and hell, even in this office it was just, uh,
Speaker 2: it was just like a graveyard all.
Speaker 1: I mean, we were all part timers. I mean yeah, and.
Speaker 2: So you come back in here today kind of like
Speaker 2: expecting it the same, adds we're just off the holidays,
Speaker 2: it's two more days, everyone's here. We've got a couple
Speaker 2: of big wigs in today.
Speaker 1: So like everyone's I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I'm just like sales managers And that's
Speaker 2: what I meant, my bad.
Speaker 1: People who you know typically aren't here every day because
Speaker 1: they're traveling, because they got big they got they got
Speaker 1: the real important jobs, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So again it is the first workday of the
Speaker 1: new year, and I'm going to try to be productive,
Speaker 1: but really it's you can still kind of half asset,
Speaker 1: I think, because we've got it's Thursday, it's Mars Friday,
Speaker 1: and then you know, you get your first full week
Speaker 1: next week. So uh, anyways, once again, happy New Year's everybody.
Speaker 1: And I don't know where to start. We got so
Speaker 1: much to react to. It feels like one of those
Speaker 1: Mondays where we come back from a busy, busy weekend.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a weekend, but man, there is a lot
Speaker 1: that has gone on since I since I last had
Speaker 1: this show live, of course, and then you know, I
Speaker 1: guess the last time you heard from me was right
Speaker 1: after the Tony the Tiger Sun bull win for Jeff
Speaker 1: Brom and his team, and I thought the postgame show
Speaker 1: reaction was was pretty much what I would have expected, right,
Speaker 1: very happy they won. Props to the defense there at
Speaker 1: the end of the game, being able to find a
Speaker 1: way to win and hold on when it did not
Speaker 1: look good. Antonio Watts was the superstar. And then there
Speaker 1: was a lot of conversation on the postgame show about
Speaker 1: Ron English, and we'll get back into that a little
Speaker 1: bit later on because obviously that's something I still want
Speaker 1: to share some thoughts on. And I don't really feel
Speaker 1: a whole lot different now than I did in the
Speaker 1: moment reacting as soon as the game ended, where it
Speaker 1: looked like Louisville might have had the how are we
Speaker 1: going to lose this? Are we really going to lose
Speaker 1: this a game like this again? And they were able
Speaker 1: to avoid it. But anyways, I mean, we've got to
Speaker 1: start with what happened last night for Pat Kelsey and
Speaker 1: his team, and trust me, we will talk college football
Speaker 1: playoff because obviously there's a game going on today because
Speaker 1: of the potential terrorist attack. I mean, it was clearly
Speaker 1: a horrific thing, just absolute tragedy. But I've read a
Speaker 1: couple of different things as far as what they assume
Speaker 1: happened here as far as this guy isolated thing or
Speaker 1: is he working with some organizations, so maybe there is
Speaker 1: confirmation if if he is or is not. I just
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. But again, the lot to get
Speaker 1: to you. I don't want act like we're just gonna
Speaker 1: talk about litle basketball for three straight hours. But man,
Speaker 1: the new year got off to a great start for
Speaker 1: Pat Kelsey because yesterday his team picked up I think
Speaker 1: what was I mean, it's not the best win they
Speaker 1: have as far as resume, because that actually is West Virginia.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys realized it, but West
Speaker 1: Virginia they went to Lawrence, Kansas to take on Bill self,
Speaker 1: and they ended up winning in Lawrence without having like
Speaker 1: their three best players, or maybe it was their three
Speaker 1: leading scores. Maybe that's an exaggeration. I do know they
Speaker 1: didn't have their top guy who they've been missing for
Speaker 1: a little while now, the coach's son. But West Virginia
Speaker 1: beating Kansas really gives that win that you have against
Speaker 1: West Virginia a nice chance to be quad you know,
Speaker 1: quad one. Maybe I don't know the numbers as far
Speaker 1: as neutral site, but you like, you know, for example,
Speaker 1: last night, Louisville beating North Carolina, that's a good win.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's Carolina. I think Carolina's gonna win a
Speaker 1: lot of games in the ACC. This Carolina team just
Speaker 1: beat I think it was Gonzaga or no, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that Ucla Carolina before Carolina had just beat Ucla, who
Speaker 1: just beat Gonzaga, so I had that confused. So Carolina
Speaker 1: being Carolina, knowing they've got elite talent every year, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a good win. I think it felt like it
Speaker 1: for fans, but as far as resume, and I really
Speaker 1: don't care a whole lot about it, but last night
Speaker 1: just kind of felt like the first real big moment
Speaker 1: for Pat Kelsey. And maybe that's me not giving them
Speaker 1: enough credit for what they did against Indiana and West
Speaker 1: Virginia in the in the Bahamas, because that was great.
Speaker 1: That was sort of a game where it felt like Okay, Nationally,
Speaker 1: there was some attention for the program that you hadn't
Speaker 1: had in a while, meaning attention that was okay, wow,
Speaker 1: this Louisville team, they look pretty good. Oh yeah, Louisville,
Speaker 1: we remember them. They used to be, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of important when it comes to college basketball, but it's
Speaker 1: been a few years since that's been the case. I
Speaker 1: don't want to not give credit where to due what
Speaker 1: they did early on this year, but I think having
Speaker 1: your crowd there last night on New Year's Day playing Carolina,
Speaker 1: you know, wins of value meaning significant value were gonna
Speaker 1: be hard to come by because of the way the
Speaker 1: ACC is this year. So here, I am thinking it's
Speaker 1: the best moment so far for Kelsey as far as
Speaker 1: a specific game. But what happened at you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know was it halftime. I don't think it was
Speaker 1: was it was it halftime? Whenever Michael Brown junior committed,
Speaker 1: we were speechless because Austin and I were actually there
Speaker 1: at the game together along with my wonderful wife Tiffany,
Speaker 1: who goes by Mercedes when it comes to people around here,
Speaker 1: which I need to reset that story as far as
Speaker 1: how she got that name. But anyways, getting the commitment
Speaker 1: from Michel Brown junior, the number one point guard in
Speaker 1: the country, the highest rank commit for Louisville basketball since
Speaker 1: Samato Samuel's. I mean, it was just an absolute great
Speaker 1: day for Pat Kelsey and his team. And what really
Speaker 1: makes me over the moon about this win for Louisville
Speaker 1: isn't just because you know it's against a ran that
Speaker 1: is Carolina. I know some people will tell you what
Speaker 1: Carolina is lousy, they didn't have one of their leading scores.
Speaker 1: That's fine, whatever. I still think they're going to be
Speaker 1: a tournament team. And you wins against teams you know
Speaker 1: that are going to be tournament teams. So Quad one,
Speaker 1: Quad two, or maybe North Carolina finishes in the top
Speaker 1: thirty of the net, that will end up being a
Speaker 1: Quad one.
Speaker 2: And I really don't know we know if we have
Speaker 2: any way of like prediction that's going to happen or not,
Speaker 2: just because right now, for example, Louisville this and I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not bringing this up to nitpick.
Speaker 1: I'm not sharing this to to act like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm complaining about Louisville. They can't do anything about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they could have, But just to
Speaker 1: give you a little bit of perspective on how it
Speaker 1: works when it comes to beating teams by a certain
Speaker 1: margin or you know, losing winning and losing is not
Speaker 1: factored in as much as it should when it comes
Speaker 1: to the kin palm, when it comes to the net
Speaker 1: and I think that's ridiculous, but you know, there's nothing
Speaker 1: you can do about it. So, for example, beat EKU,
Speaker 1: and that was a close call, right, they were very
Speaker 1: fortunate to beat Eku seventy eight to seventy six last weekend,
Speaker 1: well after after that win, because they were supposed to
Speaker 1: win that game by a lot more and they barely survived.
Speaker 1: They actually dropped. I mean, Louisville went from being a
Speaker 1: number let's see. And this is why it's so. Louisville
Speaker 1: right now is fifty four in the kin Pom. They
Speaker 1: jumped up from let's see, let's see here. Why is
Speaker 1: it not showing me where they were? Yees. So, after
Speaker 1: Louisville actually fell more in the kN palm with a
Speaker 1: two point win over Eku, then they climbed by beating
Speaker 1: North Carolina by thirteen points. So it's the formula system
Speaker 1: that I just again, I can't so long story short
Speaker 1: with Carolina, that is that's a you know, if they
Speaker 1: end up finishing in the top thirty, that'll be a
Speaker 1: quad one win. And I feel like they will because
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win a lot of games, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna have Like North Carolina is a team that
Speaker 1: you know, just to pull up their schedule here, you know,
Speaker 1: Ken Palm has them beating Notre Dame by four, SMU
Speaker 1: by four. So yeah, because Carolina has struggled a little
Speaker 1: bit this year, more so than usual, their expectation as
Speaker 1: far as you know, what the what the formula predicts
Speaker 1: is not as it's not as big of a margin
Speaker 1: as you would have typically expected with the North Carolina team.
Speaker 1: But if you mess around and lose one of these games,
Speaker 1: or maybe you end up beating a team but not
Speaker 1: nearly by as much as I guess you were supposed to,
Speaker 1: then then that'll be really dependent upon can Carolina stay
Speaker 1: in the top thirty. And I don't even know why
Speaker 1: I've talked about the resume stuff so much, because again,
Speaker 1: last night, it didn't really matter for me as far
Speaker 1: as Carolina being a team that rank was ranked here
Speaker 1: or how many losses they had. I mean, obviously, if
Speaker 1: they were terrible, they came in here with like two wins,
Speaker 1: it would have been a little bit different. But Louisville
Speaker 1: they won eighty three to seventy, and they just went
Speaker 1: out there for forty minutes and they were the better
Speaker 1: team in every way. They were more physical, and I
Speaker 1: don't mean as if like they comple punk them, but
Speaker 1: like it things that you know you really don't get
Speaker 1: a great feel for just by looking at the box score,
Speaker 1: and I think that's just intensity, energy, attention to detail,
Speaker 1: hustle plays. I don't think Carolina was out there loafing it,
Speaker 1: but Louisville was better in those areas, which is how
Speaker 1: they were able to win eighty three to seventy. They
Speaker 1: didn't shoot the ball well at all. I mean from
Speaker 1: three it were six to twenty six for twenty three percent.
Speaker 1: Typically when you make twenty three percent of your threes
Speaker 1: and you took twenty six of them. I feel like
Speaker 1: I would have said that Louisville would have a tough
Speaker 1: time beating maybe anybody, but they beat Carolina, a team
Speaker 1: that we know has really good talent. We know it's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the better wins you can get
Speaker 1: in the ACC and it was just not I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like This was the first time I watched
Speaker 1: Louisville go out there. And when it comes to specific
Speaker 1: numbers that they really hunt, meaning they need a lot
Speaker 1: of threes to be taken, and you know, they want
Speaker 1: to shoot a great percentage that's a little bit out
Speaker 1: of their control. And I don't even really know if
Speaker 1: there's a percentage that Pat Kelce, you know, where the
Speaker 1: sweet spot is for him, where if his team can
Speaker 1: make thirty seven percent in a game, then they're going
Speaker 1: to be aokay. I mean, I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: a specific number that he wonts every game. But again,
Speaker 1: I think some numbers that you typically rely on to
Speaker 1: be pretty good if you're going to win, they didn't.
Speaker 1: They weren't there last night for Louisville. I mean, they
Speaker 1: shot only forty five percent overall. And look, this is
Speaker 1: one that's really frustrating, and I totally get it, Like
Speaker 1: it's something that we should be worried about free throw shooting. Right,
Speaker 1: they were twenty five of thirty nine from the line
Speaker 1: at sixty four percent. You shot forty threes nearly and
Speaker 1: only made sixty four percent of them. Like that's these
Speaker 1: are things that like should worry you Now, you can't
Speaker 1: really do a whole lot about missing three point shots
Speaker 1: if they were getting good looks, and I think last night,
Speaker 1: for the most part, they were getting good looks. They
Speaker 1: just didn't knock them down, and that happens, but it
Speaker 1: didn't matter because they were just I mean, their scout
Speaker 1: for Carolina. I mean, I know Brian Cleman, it's kind
Speaker 1: of the defensive coordinator for Pat Kelsey, and they were
Speaker 1: they were ready to make things rough for RJ. Davis,
Speaker 1: one of the better guards you'll find in the country,
Speaker 1: at least he was for the first five years of
Speaker 1: his career. I'm not really sure how much. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's still pretty good player, clearly you can tell that.
Speaker 1: But you know, they were just ready. They were better.
Speaker 1: They were better, they were better coached. When whenever Carolina
Speaker 1: would make some runs to either trim the deficit to nothing,
Speaker 1: to tie it up, or maybe they claw back within
Speaker 1: just a bucket or two, Louisville seem to always be
Speaker 1: able to respond. And you know, these are little things.
Speaker 1: And I know it sounds like I'm just drooling over
Speaker 1: Pat Kelsey, and you know, maybe I am. In fact,
Speaker 1: I think I am now that I give it some thought,
Speaker 1: But they don't ever lose their head whenever they're having
Speaker 1: a rough night shooting, they don't ever lose composure. And
Speaker 1: I guess that's what I mean when I say lose
Speaker 1: their head. They keep composure. They they you don't really
Speaker 1: see any body language shift when they're having a really
Speaker 1: tough night. From three I wish and they should be
Speaker 1: better at shooting free throws, but they've had nights like
Speaker 1: this where they're not, and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: teams would would start to sweat and get a little
Speaker 1: tight because they realize, man, we're leaving a lot of
Speaker 1: points out here on the floor by not making these
Speaker 1: free throws. And again, you need to make free throws.
Speaker 1: That's an issue. They got to get better there. But
Speaker 1: they could have a run go against them. Carolina made
Speaker 1: a huge run before Louisville made they're big thirteen to
Speaker 1: one run to end the game. Carolina, by the way,
Speaker 1: Nana didn't make a field goal in the last five minutes.
Speaker 1: So with that, like I just I think that speaks
Speaker 1: to how well they're coach. Man, the culture, the environment,
Speaker 1: all these things that you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: probably think are just filler words that aren't really that important,
Speaker 1: and I think louis of fans can tell you they
Speaker 1: are important. We learned the hard way, like having a
Speaker 1: leader that can really instill a culture where guys are
Speaker 1: just gonna go. I mean a very much a team
Speaker 1: thing to where nobody's self nobody seems selfish on this team.
Speaker 1: I mean the energy from the bench is always great.
Speaker 1: So you know, I still have no clue what this
Speaker 1: season's gonna end up looking like for this team in March.
Speaker 1: Really have no way of knowing, But man, I love
Speaker 1: watching this group. I really do. I don't. I mean, clearly,
Speaker 1: it's not the most talented team by any means. You
Speaker 1: don't have any NBA players on this group. You really
Speaker 1: only have about seven guys right now. Well, I guess
Speaker 1: you could say eight because they are getting Tree are
Speaker 1: back in the mix. So when I tell you, guys
Speaker 1: how much I love this team and it's been a fun,
Speaker 1: fun ride thus far, I know some will say that
Speaker 1: it's because of what happened the last few years, and
Speaker 1: you're probably right. I know that's a factor to an extent.
Speaker 1: But even if Louisville fired Kenny Payne because he was
Speaker 1: five hundred in two straight seasons. I mean that still
Speaker 1: would have been fireable for a place like Louisville in
Speaker 1: my opinion, But I still think I would have the
Speaker 1: same feeling for this group. Man, I really really think
Speaker 1: that everybody from top to bottom, and I'm talking top
Speaker 1: to bottom, equipment managers, trainers, every staffer, Kelsey of course,
Speaker 1: I mean everybody within the program. I feel like they
Speaker 1: have a real appreciation to be here. And last night,
Speaker 1: you know, for example, on KSR this morning, of course,
Speaker 1: starting the new year, one of their big topics early
Speaker 1: on in the show was to make fun of Louisvill's
Speaker 1: attendance last night, which I was there. I didn't think
Speaker 1: it was that bad at all. Now again, the upper
Speaker 1: level clearly some empty seats, but I thought the energy
Speaker 1: was great. So you know, these these everybody in the program,
Speaker 1: although some look at little, some with real familiarity with
Speaker 1: Louisville basketball, and I guess you know what it once
Speaker 1: was before these down years happened. It still doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like it's good enough, right, which I think a lot
Speaker 1: of LOIVEL fans understand and they're completely content with everything.
Speaker 1: But my point is, even if you would to the
Speaker 1: game last night and you were really underwhelming because you
Speaker 1: hadn't been to a game in a few years, in
Speaker 1: town for a few years, and you're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the Yumps Center and watch this
Speaker 1: Pat Kelsey squat play, you know, really really, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to see him. I'd been in a while.
Speaker 1: And maybe you went and you thought, brother, why aren't
Speaker 1: there twenty thousand plus here? What happened? What's going on?
Speaker 1: If that's you? And I'm not sure if that person exists, Like,
Speaker 1: just know that what you felt like was maybe a
Speaker 1: little underwhelming, and I hope he still had a good
Speaker 1: time as I speak to a non existent person potentially,
Speaker 1: But my point is that they, meaning everybody within this program, player, coach, everybody,
Speaker 1: top to bottom. They appreciated the energy that was there
Speaker 1: last night. They probably had some reflection at Tom's thinking, man,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. I'm playing in front of this great crowd.
Speaker 1: As far as the energy they're bringing in the Young Center,
Speaker 1: We're playing North Carolina, so the vibes are really really good.
Speaker 1: Don't know how good this team's gonna be, obviously, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have fun watching them, man, I really am.
Speaker 1: And again we've got to discuss how big it is
Speaker 1: to get mckel brown, the five star point guard who
Speaker 1: committed last night during the game, which I didn't realize
Speaker 1: he signed with Louisville like before Thanksgiving. I think, wow,
Speaker 1: And he's just been sitting on it waiting to have
Speaker 1: a moment like this. So good stuff, no doubt. All right,
Speaker 1: hope we can have some good stuff for you guys
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Speaker 1: But let's get it started with Dave. Dave, welcome into
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven ninety. How are you, oh?
Speaker 4: Pretty good? Had the bowl game? The last thirty seconds
Speaker 4: I think there was referee should be super malpractice. I
Speaker 4: mean it was horrible. It was horrible officiating. I mean
Speaker 4: that was just no you know, like when the guy
Speaker 4: fumbled all out about that, I keep reading more that
Speaker 4: should have been called a touchback and the past the
Speaker 4: past interference was ridiculous. I mean it was terrible call.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was. But you know my concern, I guess
Speaker 4: is the next year the UFL secondary. Boy, if you
Speaker 4: watch the second touchdown that the past that the touchdown
Speaker 4: passed the second one was that receiver he was he
Speaker 4: was so wide open. I think you need a search
Speaker 4: party find the secondary on that. I mean, our guys,
Speaker 4: I don't know whether they're just they don't understand the
Speaker 4: scheme or well.
Speaker 1: So we talked a lot about that on the postgame show, Dave.
Speaker 1: I think that players should always be held accountable. You know,
Speaker 1: you need good players and players need to play well.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not something that can just be thrown
Speaker 1: to the side and we blame it all on staff.
Speaker 1: But I think in two years time, when Louisville's defense
Speaker 1: has more often than not, when they've had really good plays,
Speaker 1: really good games, or they've had some really head scratching results,
Speaker 1: I tend to think that the issues have been more
Speaker 1: so with with communication, with strategy. Just seems like at
Speaker 1: times they're they're kind of lost out there, and I
Speaker 1: think when they've made plays again, the defense, the coaching
Speaker 1: staff deserves credit. Ron English deserves credit for I guess,
Speaker 1: putting these guys in these spots. But I think Louisvill's
Speaker 1: had better defensive personnel than you would think in some
Speaker 1: of these games, and that comes down to Ron English.
Speaker 1: So look, I know that they're adding players in the
Speaker 1: portal really at every position. I'm sure that the secondary
Speaker 1: is is something that they're well aware that they need
Speaker 1: to make sure they're good to go for next year.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I really my worry, Dave is this. I
Speaker 1: think lit is gonna have a lot of offensive firepower
Speaker 1: next year. I mean, you bring back two great running backs.
Speaker 1: Colin Lacey looked great in the Bowl game. Obviously, Chris
Speaker 1: Bell emerged I think late in the year to be
Speaker 1: a guy that I think it's safe to say he
Speaker 1: had a breakout year. They just added a receiver from
Speaker 1: Nebraska in the portal today. So my worry, I think
Speaker 1: Miller Moss is really good. But my worry, Dave, is
Speaker 1: that you gonna you're gonna be in a position next
Speaker 1: year if Ron English is back to where you know,
Speaker 1: you've got the offense to maybe score with just about anybody,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to worry is the defense gonna
Speaker 1: also give up thirty five points to where your offense
Speaker 1: is gonna have pressure like they did on Tuesday in
Speaker 1: that Bowl game, for example, I thought that thirty five
Speaker 1: points in three quarters from the Louisville offense should have
Speaker 1: been enough to where you didn't have to sweat it
Speaker 1: out there towards the end. So, you know, I players
Speaker 1: always got to be held accountable. But I just I worry,
Speaker 1: do we have the right guy leading the defense long term?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well yeah, but you know something else. The pass
Speaker 4: rush couldn't much nonexistent, you know, without a lot. You know,
Speaker 4: two years ago when we won the Fenway Bowl.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: I also Abdulah and Dabi, those guys, they were both
Speaker 4: drafted and they played that game. So I'm wondering. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't think Joe out of it was hurt. I
Speaker 4: mean he was, he was just you know, they opted out,
Speaker 4: which you know, to me, I don't know if if
Speaker 4: a guy, if a guy is afraid of getting hurt.
Speaker 4: Why was he even playing during the regular season.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get a Dave. I appreciate the call.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Good to hear from you. Happy New Year. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's many many fans that ask the same
Speaker 1: question Dave just asked, which is, you know other guys
Speaker 1: play who are also hoping to go to the NFL,
Speaker 1: and it's everybody's own personal decision. I don't think Ashton
Speaker 1: would have gained anything by playing. And if you're somebody
Speaker 1: that says, well, hey, he should finish with his team,
Speaker 1: I don't think that you're crazy. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people have that same thought process. But I also understand,
Speaker 1: you know, the risk were when you're thinking about your future,
Speaker 1: your livelihood and you realize there's not a whole lot
Speaker 1: to gain from playing in the game, it's probably not
Speaker 1: going to do much to your stock. You could get hurt.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's examples out there, and I've
Speaker 1: used the example from twenty sixteen before Cole Hicckattini was
Speaker 1: a really good tight end. He may never have played
Speaker 1: in the NFL, for you know, he did play in
Speaker 1: the NFL, but like he didn't get drafted because he
Speaker 1: got hurt at a Bowl game against LSU, and that
Speaker 1: kept him from being able to work out for NFL
Speaker 1: teams during that process, when you've got when you're about
Speaker 1: to come up on basically the biggest job interview of
Speaker 1: your life, right, you're a guy that knows you got
Speaker 1: to go show out in the combine. If you get
Speaker 1: the invite, you got to show out when you have
Speaker 1: these workouts, that's your audition for It's the biggest audition
Speaker 1: of your life. Because look, if you're somebody that you
Speaker 1: know is shit or Sanders or Travis Hunter, those kind
Speaker 1: of guys, you know these you know where you're going
Speaker 1: in the draft, right, it's a no brainer. But when
Speaker 1: you know that you've got to make an impression, and
Speaker 1: you know, you finish the regular season and you know
Speaker 1: you were healthy, and then you I get it up.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go down that path today, but like,
Speaker 1: I totally get it. Why guys decide they just you
Speaker 1: know they're going to go ahead and turn that page
Speaker 1: to the next chapter in their life and start getting
Speaker 1: ready for a pro career. And you know, I kind
Speaker 1: of liked in a way knowing that this game was
Speaker 1: going to be kind of whatever because you have. And
Speaker 1: that's where it really just kind of went. It was
Speaker 1: frustrating when it comes to how that game ended, because
Speaker 1: if you'd have lost a close game and it just
Speaker 1: felt like, okay, yeah, this is what we get with
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback whose third string, This is what we
Speaker 1: get with you know, not having JULYI, not having Quincy Riley,
Speaker 1: not having Jacory Brooks, and it just looked like, you know,
Speaker 1: you were missing those guys in a major way and
Speaker 1: you came up short and barely lost. That would have sucked,
Speaker 1: because nobody wants to lose at any point, but that
Speaker 1: would be like, okay, well you know what, like let's
Speaker 1: not act like we really care. This is the stupid
Speaker 1: Sun Bowl anyway. But for Louisville to be up two
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the fourth quarter and then nearly just blow it,
Speaker 1: that made it to where like it would have been
Speaker 1: hard they'd lost. It would have been really hard for me
Speaker 1: not to say, okay, like losing these whatever bowl games,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really change a whole lot as far how
Speaker 1: we view the season, but it would have been another
Speaker 1: example I think to point to and say, man, do
Speaker 1: we have issues finding ways to lose games? Because that
Speaker 1: you know, so anyways, and look, they barely held on.
Speaker 1: It was the Antonio Watts tip ball that kept that
Speaker 1: disaster from happening. So you know, just I think it's
Speaker 1: a reminder you can have, you can feel a certain
Speaker 1: way about the way things are shaping up towards the
Speaker 1: end of a game and kind of know that even
Speaker 1: if you do hold on and win, the things you
Speaker 1: were frustrated about still happened. Right, It didn't change, but
Speaker 1: winning and losing it go a long way. So Jeff
Speaker 1: Bram and his team were able to get that ninth win,
Speaker 1: and I really think that was huge for not having
Speaker 1: a sour taste in the mouth of some fans. And look,
Speaker 1: if you're somebody that wouldn't have cared at all, because
Speaker 1: you know, you just don't view these Bowl games as
Speaker 1: anything other than the glorified exhibitions as a lot of
Speaker 1: people call them. Than fine, But man, it was nice
Speaker 1: to see them close it out. And I'll say this
Speaker 1: about the officiating. I get I cringe when I hear
Speaker 1: people in sinuate that you know the refs are like
Speaker 1: biased against them and that you know they lost games
Speaker 1: because of officials and this and that, because there's bad
Speaker 1: plays in every bad calls in every game, bad no
Speaker 1: calls in every game, and sometimes you end up having
Speaker 1: more of them go your way than the opponent and
Speaker 1: it helps you win. So like it's just part of sports.
Speaker 1: But had they ended up and again this can still
Speaker 1: be said and it remains true, you were just able
Speaker 1: to hold on and win. But I feel like this
Speaker 1: year for Louisville football, any fifty to fifty play and look,
Speaker 1: sometimes there were just bad calls that went against you.
Speaker 1: And look that happens. It's not just Louisvill. There's other
Speaker 1: teams that can say that they had some bad calls
Speaker 1: this year that went against them. But I can think
Speaker 1: of four or five moments where it's okay that it's
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. We're gonna either get lucky here or
Speaker 1: we're not, or they probably call like for example whenever
Speaker 1: I mean, the pass interference was a terrible call in
Speaker 1: the bowl game, but then the fifty to fifty call
Speaker 1: I think was the touchback right, Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw I would have called a touchbawn maybe unbiased.
Speaker 1: I think in those situations Louisville this year, and it's
Speaker 1: not because I think that the refs are against them,
Speaker 1: and that if they can screw Louisville over, they're gonna try.
Speaker 1: They're gonna make sure they do it. It's just that
Speaker 1: those things didn't go their way really at all this year,
Speaker 1: because that was that was a play that you know,
Speaker 1: I think they called it the way they called it
Speaker 1: because they didn't see enough in the review to go
Speaker 1: back and say, oh, that was a touchback. But I
Speaker 1: think it was a touchback. I mean, you go back
Speaker 1: to the SMU game where they fumbled and they went
Speaker 1: back and said, uh, and that's where I feel like
Speaker 1: he got boned in that one, because I feel like
Speaker 1: you got to stand with the call because there wasn't
Speaker 1: enough there to overturn your initial call. But sure enough
Speaker 1: they decided to reverse it. SMU gets the ball that
Speaker 1: had a huge impact in Louisville losing that game. Go
Speaker 1: to the Miami game, cam Ward, he got hit as
Speaker 1: he threw it, somebody scooped it up for the Louisville defense,
Speaker 1: took it to the house with the touchdown. But yet
Speaker 1: they went and reviewed it and said, yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: a forward pass. So you know, I'm not even saying
Speaker 1: that's the worst call ever. But in those situations, it
Speaker 1: just kind of felt like this was just a really bad,
Speaker 1: had luck type a year when it comes to officiating.
Speaker 1: And again, every team can go back and watch every
Speaker 1: game and figure out calls that went against them this
Speaker 1: and that. It's not to say that Louisville is just
Speaker 1: you know, cursed or anything, but it seemed like in
Speaker 1: those moments where it was like, all right, I'm not
Speaker 1: really sure what they can do here. They called it
Speaker 1: incorrectly on the field, but do they have enough evidence
Speaker 1: to say that they can overturn it or vice versa.
Speaker 1: And in those situations, just felt like they went against
Speaker 1: Louisville this year. But again, I'm I'm in my own
Speaker 1: head here because I just don't want people to think
Speaker 1: that I'm the guy that claims the refs like when
Speaker 1: Louisville does get a bad call go against him, it's
Speaker 1: because it was personal and they're just looking to screw
Speaker 1: us over, although I do know a lot of fans
Speaker 1: to see seem to think that way. All right, So
Speaker 1: real quick, before we get to our next break, sticking
Speaker 1: with with football here, I just mentioned this earlier when
Speaker 1: we were chatting with Dave, who called in and the
Speaker 1: latest commitment for Louisville via the portal is in fact
Speaker 1: from the wide receiver position, which I'm not that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily a position that I would have expected to see them.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna need depth at every at every spot.
Speaker 1: Whoever Nebraska transfer Isaiah and Nayor has signed with Louisville.
Speaker 1: He played at Texas and Wyoming, has totaled over fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred yards in fact, yeah, just right about sixteen hundred
Speaker 1: yards and had seventeen touchdowns in his career, which clearly
Speaker 1: he's been a pretty good player. He's played at a
Speaker 1: lot of different schools. But I you know, he doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be great, he just needs to be solid
Speaker 1: because I think Chris Bell again, I think he had
Speaker 1: a breakout year. It was shaky early, but I really
Speaker 1: trust him as a big time playmaker. For Jeff Brom,
Speaker 1: we know what you have in Colin Lacy. So I
Speaker 1: would imagine Nayer's decision to leave probably had a little
Speaker 1: bit to do with the fact that they've just added
Speaker 1: two receivers at Nebraska from Kentucky. Both Hardley Gilmour and
Speaker 1: Dane Key have committed to Nebraska after leaving Kentucky. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure Nebraska hired the Kentucky receivers coach. You know,
Speaker 1: because a lot of staffers who coach on the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball that played for her coach for
Speaker 1: Kentucky and Mark Stoops, they typically want to leave because
Speaker 1: you know, that's not a good place for an office coach.
Speaker 1: Louisville right now, I don't have the latest as far
Speaker 1: as where they're ranking. A little bit later on, I
Speaker 1: just haven't. I haven't been keeping up with it as
Speaker 1: much as far as where Louisville ranks in the portal.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get why people reference that, and hell yeah,
Speaker 1: Louisville ends up being ranked really really high on the portal.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna say, hell
Speaker 1: yeah that and I'm gonna talk about it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: brag about it because I'm alive a fan.
Speaker 2: You want to get on to talk with you.
Speaker 1: I think this year with Brohm, what he's going to
Speaker 1: talk with it on the I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: because of something he learned throughout you know, you talk
Speaker 1: about it earlier the portal, Eric, but I'd say right now,
Speaker 1: a good chunk of the guys that he has got
Speaker 1: commitments from via the portal are guys who play for
Speaker 1: like really low level, low level G five or even FCS. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean then you're somehow maybe concerned about that, you
Speaker 1: know whatever, Like I get it, you need you need
Speaker 1: talent to be able to compete at a high level. However,
Speaker 1: I actually think that Jeff Jeff once guys that are
Speaker 1: gonna be hungry. Obviously they want to pay day because
Speaker 1: you know that's a factor now too within IL. But
Speaker 1: I think Jeff is of the belief that guys who
Speaker 1: want to come to Louisville not just to collect another
Speaker 1: check like some of the guys did last year who
Speaker 1: transferred in mid season and then bailed after spring, and
Speaker 1: you want to avoid that if you can. So I
Speaker 1: think he's going after guys that you know, they're not
Speaker 1: just coming to the higher level because they are utilizing
Speaker 1: the portal and want to get paid. They also want
Speaker 1: to show what they can do at a power for program.
Speaker 1: So good energy, good vibes for both Louisville basketball and
Speaker 1: football right now. It certainly seems as we get twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five started speaking of officiating, we just talked about
Speaker 1: some of the unfortunate calls that went against Louisville this year.
Speaker 1: We got to talk about the non targeting call yesterday
Speaker 1: in the Texas Arizona state game. I'm learned. I mean,
Speaker 1: I didn't need to be reminded of this, but I'm
Speaker 1: I can confirm. I'll put it that way. Texas is
Speaker 1: a big state with a lot of people, and they
Speaker 1: have a lot of fans. Just by me sharing the
Speaker 1: video of the blatant targeting, they didn't get called. It's
Speaker 1: now got more than a quarter of a million views
Speaker 1: on Twitter and nothing. I mean, I'm not even checking
Speaker 1: my mentions right now because all it is is Texas
Speaker 1: fans telling me I'm an idiot. Oh yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know it's fine, Like I get it. That's what this
Speaker 1: that's what this toxic platform is meaning Twitter. But man, like,
Speaker 1: it's all I did was Texas fans. Yeah, I shared
Speaker 1: what everybody else was sharing, and I shared what was obvious.
Speaker 1: It's a fact, not an opinion, that was targeting. They
Speaker 1: didn't get called, and it's just got everybody and they're
Speaker 1: they're filling up their diapers and and uh.
Speaker 2: Get them filling it some type of way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe I'll read some of the very mean
Speaker 1: dms that they've that they've sent my way just because
Speaker 1: I acknowledged that they were they were fortunate to benefit
Speaker 1: from a targeting call that didn't get called. But anyways,
Speaker 1: quick break, we'll come back on the other side. Keep
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Speaker 1: For what it's worth, maybe Texas fans were so angry
Speaker 1: about I was gonna say, for what it's worth, I'm
Speaker 1: not anti Texas at all. I really don't have any
Speaker 1: opinion one way or the other about Texas football or anything. Uh,
Speaker 1: but I shared this tweet yesterday once the replay showed
Speaker 1: that it was I mean, it's textbook targeting when it
Speaker 1: comes to that rule. And I don't know, put it
Speaker 1: this way, if that was called targeting, and like, it
Speaker 1: wasn't Texas in that spot, it was anybody, Like I
Speaker 1: don't actually don't think there's any scenario any team could
Speaker 1: have been called for targeting there in any situation and
Speaker 1: people would have said, like, oh my god, what a
Speaker 1: terrible call. So it was a it was a it
Speaker 1: was a terrible no call, that they reviewed it and
Speaker 1: still decided no, no targeting. And the only people that
Speaker 1: I've seen making the case like that that's not that's
Speaker 1: not correct, and that it that it was a good
Speaker 1: no call after getting under the hood looking at it
Speaker 1: and then and then deciding yeah, you know what, uh
Speaker 1: clean play. I mean, it's only Texas fans and it's you,
Speaker 1: and it's most of the people that are just you know,
Speaker 1: clearly biased and and fortunate and look, it's okay, every team,
Speaker 1: every fan base, I should say, if they're being honest,
Speaker 1: knows that their team has benefited at times from a
Speaker 1: really good no call or a really you know it happens, right,
Speaker 1: big time calls that are bad ones end up in
Speaker 1: your favor pretty often. But like I guess Texas just
Speaker 1: doesn't want to acknowledge that, you know, they were lucky
Speaker 1: to survive, and it's guess it's tough to know like
Speaker 1: if what Arizona State would have been able to do
Speaker 1: from then on, but like that gave Texas life by
Speaker 1: them not having the balls to call that targeting because
Speaker 1: of what it would have done in that game. What
Speaker 1: I mean, it would it would have given Texas probably
Speaker 1: what percentage chance of winning at that point. I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll never know, but I don't know how anybody can
Speaker 1: say that the facts in front of us that that
Speaker 1: was targeting and they were lucky that they decided not
Speaker 1: to call it like that, don't even It's not an opinion,
Speaker 1: it's a fact. So if you are just now joining us,
Speaker 1: I shared the replay video. This was from who was
Speaker 1: it the actually the video itself came from us. He've
Speaker 1: been pulled up here from Warren Sharp, who is a
Speaker 1: big time account on Twitter. I think he's got like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got four hundred thousand followers. He's a football guy
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I don't know much about his background, but
Speaker 1: nonetheless he's the one who just I guess videoed his
Speaker 1: TV and uploaded it as they showed the replay of
Speaker 1: what was clearly targeting. I shared it and said, Texas
Speaker 1: quite literally advances because the officials were afraid to call
Speaker 1: blatant targeting late in the fourth quarter. Well again, that
Speaker 1: tweet me sharing the video again, not the video itself,
Speaker 1: but my actual tweet has over two hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: five thousand impressions now and it's just mostly Texas fans,
Speaker 1: or actually last night it was people share retweeting it
Speaker 1: and saying, you know, I guess in support that they
Speaker 1: agreed that that was blatant targeted. They didn't call. But
Speaker 1: then since late last night, it's been nothing but Texas
Speaker 1: fans just you know, and I don't. I'm sure they're
Speaker 1: doing it to everybody, right, It's not just me. Anybody
Speaker 1: who's out there sharing that video and claiming they were
Speaker 1: lucky because the refs were scared to call targeting. It's
Speaker 1: not like they're singling me out. But it's been annoying
Speaker 1: today when it comes to my Twitter mentions and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But the playoff itself, I mean, you had the SMU
Speaker 1: Penn State, not the SMU, but the Penn State and
Speaker 1: Boise State game. I mean, I guess it was kind
Speaker 1: of kind of a dud, I suppose. And I've got
Speaker 1: some complaints about the playoff, but I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't. My complaints about certain things have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with like is the playoff a good thing? The
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff expanding to twelve is awesome. There's no
Speaker 1: result that I think we could get from here on
Speaker 1: out until this thing's over that I would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have done that, but they're clearly going to
Speaker 1: have to go revisit the situation with the Buys, because
Speaker 1: you know James Franklin, it's not personal against him, like
Speaker 1: he's a fine coach, seems like a good dude too,
Speaker 1: Like I don't you know, I don't have anything against him,
Speaker 1: but like he's never really won the big games at Penn.
Speaker 1: He's for the most part, done a really good job
Speaker 1: of always beating the teams he's supposed to beat. But
Speaker 1: when you get into a spot where, okay, can you
Speaker 1: get over the hump? Are you gonna beat Ohio State?
Speaker 1: Can you get over the hump? Are you gonna beat
Speaker 1: Michigan whenever they're rolling? And they don't. They don't ever
Speaker 1: really do that. And I guess now that you've got
Speaker 1: Oregon in the Big Ten, I guess you know, you
Speaker 1: could claim there's still a team that would be viewed
Speaker 1: as like that would be a big win for Franklin.
Speaker 1: But they didn't play him this year. So what happens
Speaker 1: with James Franklin, the guy who you know can't ever
Speaker 1: win the big games seemingly and get over the hump,
Speaker 1: he gets a gift. I mean, they play SMU at
Speaker 1: home to start it off, and then they get they
Speaker 1: get Boise State in a neutral site, which no offerends
Speaker 1: to Boise State. But like, you know, nobody really believes
Speaker 1: that they are one of the best teams in the
Speaker 1: country right now. Again, it doesn't matter. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can I don't think Arizona State's one of the best
Speaker 1: teams in the country. They should have won yesterday.
Speaker 4: So I.
Speaker 1: Love the playoff and that we have it. But I
Speaker 1: was so angry yesterday and I don't know why. Like
Speaker 1: I bet on Texas to win about thirteen and a
Speaker 1: half and that was shot in the fourth quarter because
Speaker 1: of the explosion from Scataboo and that Arizona State team.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I found myself pulling for the underdog. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of you know, we don't really have
Speaker 1: any skin in the game, and I already know my
Speaker 1: bets off, I'm gonna find myself rooting for the underdog,
Speaker 1: which is what Arizona State clearly was. But when I
Speaker 1: saw everybody after the game, pretty much universally saying they
Speaker 1: can't all be thrillers. But man, did that one really deliver. Wow,
Speaker 1: what an absolute performance between these two teams, Arizona State
Speaker 1: and Texas. Like I'm not surprised when people say that,
Speaker 1: because again, the Peach Bowl was great, but I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: how can you call it such a great game and
Speaker 1: it delivered? That was awesome whenever I mean, the refs
Speaker 1: were scared to call a blatant targeting on Texas and
Speaker 1: that that robbed Arizona State of an opportunity to win.
Speaker 1: And again I say it that way because I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly what they would have done, but like that
Speaker 1: to me makes it where I don't feel like the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, the game itself was a great finish, and
Speaker 1: I was entertained by the back and forth, and especially
Speaker 1: to see Texas at what fourth and eighteen get the
Speaker 1: touchdown there and then turn around and score on the
Speaker 1: very next play on in the second overtime, Like that
Speaker 1: was entertaining, but like it shouldn't have happened. And I
Speaker 1: know bad calls happen all the time, but in that moment,
Speaker 1: that's not a what are you gonna do? You gotta
Speaker 1: stick with the no call on the field, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? It's just it's so tough to tell.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? You could go either way
Speaker 1: and everybody would understand that isn't what it was. It
Speaker 1: was targeting, if that's called target there again, I said
Speaker 1: this when we started talking about it a few minutes ago.
Speaker 1: If you and it's impossible I guess to do this
Speaker 1: at times, because we all have some biases, I suppose,
Speaker 1: But if you were just being one thousand, one billion
Speaker 1: percent objective and you did not know, let's just say
Speaker 1: you got two guys out there wearing the uniforms of
Speaker 1: non existent teams, teams from you know, give me some
Speaker 1: made up teams Austin from movies and TV shows. Blue
Speaker 1: Mountain State, Yeah, Blue Mountain State. And what was Varsity Blues?
Speaker 1: The uh? Why can I not remember this? It's gonna
Speaker 1: drive me crazy. The Coyotes?
Speaker 2: Was it Coyotes?
Speaker 1: I have one of their helmets. What about the mud Dogs?
Speaker 1: I have Alutele. Yeah we can do the mud Dogs.
Speaker 1: But now, yeah, Varsity Blues. They were the West Canaan.
Speaker 1: Was it the West Canaan Coyotes? Yes, okay, I know
Speaker 1: it was West Caan, Yeah, wesnon. So let's say we've
Speaker 1: got West Conan, the West Canon Coyotes, and we've got
Speaker 1: the mud Dogs. Of where is it Eleano? Is that
Speaker 1: Bobby Bouche showed up at halftime? The mud Dog's gonna
Speaker 1: win the bourbon boat. Anyways, my point is this, just
Speaker 1: take two non existent teams and if you watch that play,
Speaker 1: you would you would say that's targeting every single time.
Speaker 1: And when you get down to like the semantics of well,
Speaker 1: looks like he led more with his with his forehead
Speaker 1: than the true crown. Like that, you're just desperate to
Speaker 1: try to find a way to justify that your team,
Speaker 1: meaning Texas didn't get a really big break and I
Speaker 1: don't want to get in I mean, maybe we can,
Speaker 1: but we don't have time to do it right now.
Speaker 1: But I just when you already have ESPN owning this event,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a this is a television production.
Speaker 1: The College Football Playoff is an ESPN owned thing, at
Speaker 1: least I guess it has been for the most part.
Speaker 1: That game was on ESPN. The SEC of course, is
Speaker 1: in bed with the ESPN. We all know that. So
Speaker 1: like I try not to believe in conspiracies and think
Speaker 1: that anybody would you know, going in know that we
Speaker 1: got to make sure we look out for the SCC,
Speaker 1: Like I just I don't. I just have a hard
Speaker 1: time thinking that that that you know, that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff would ever go on. But when you see that
Speaker 1: yesterday play out the way that it did, the SEC's
Speaker 1: new darling Texas. And look, let's be real. If Texas
Speaker 1: gets he beat by Arizona State, which they should have,
Speaker 1: and it's just Georgia left, and Georgia doesn't win the
Speaker 1: national championship, maybe they come up short, which could easily happen,
Speaker 1: Like the SEC would would have a lot of egg
Speaker 1: on their face, would they not? Because what would you have?
Speaker 1: What would you claim? You bark about how you're just
Speaker 1: better and it's just because you're the SEC it means more.
Speaker 1: And you know, you don't think that winning and losing
Speaker 1: should count because you know, you just you play in
Speaker 1: the SEC and it's just better than everybody else. Had
Speaker 1: Texas lost yesterday, it would have been only Georgia left.
Speaker 1: And even if Georgia stuck around or hung around and
Speaker 1: won the national championship, the rest of the SEC would
Speaker 1: have to realize that they need a reality check. They
Speaker 1: need to, I mean, somebody needs to have an intervention
Speaker 1: with them to let them know, like, no, you're in
Speaker 1: a world that's not reality. You're not You're clearly a
Speaker 1: really good league, top to bottom, the best league in
Speaker 1: the country. But this world that you are just so
Speaker 1: much more superior than everybody else is not real. And
Speaker 1: again it still is the case because Texas needed the
Speaker 1: gift from the officials yesterday for that to happen. And
Speaker 1: you know what doesn't make you look great in the SEC.
Speaker 1: That team just got to your league and they're and
Speaker 1: you know, Texas being Texas is clearly a you know,
Speaker 1: they're a big brand, but like, let's be real, Texas
Speaker 1: was really really Texas didn't win the Big twelve very
Speaker 1: many times at all in their last twenty years there.
Speaker 1: They come in in the SEC in the first year,
Speaker 1: they get to the championship game, and now they're one
Speaker 1: of the only teams left stand ins. So again, people
Speaker 1: hear people have selective hearing. In no way am I
Speaker 1: saying that the SEC is a trash league and that
Speaker 1: it's not any good and that it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: it should be G five. No, I'm just stating that
Speaker 1: the arrogance and the entitlement that comes with that with
Speaker 1: that league is just so non deserving. For the most part,
Speaker 1: both things can be true. It can be the best league,
Speaker 1: but it can also be insane that they have this
Speaker 1: perception of themselves that's just there's nothing to back it
Speaker 1: up off other than just their own imagination. And again
Speaker 1: emphasizing it's just how elite they think they are compared
Speaker 1: to everybody else. It's not to say that it's not
Speaker 1: a great league. And again, I don't know Oregon doing
Speaker 1: as well as they did in the Pac twelve or
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten in their first season, and then Texas, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes those leagues even better. But like maybe it
Speaker 1: just means that the arrogance that you've been yapping about
Speaker 1: for decades now, when teams come come in in their
Speaker 1: first year and they have no problem adjusting, probably means
Speaker 1: you you weren't as dominant as you thought you were.
Speaker 1: But anyways, that was a situation with Missouri years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, came in like yeah, two years in a row,
Speaker 2: found themselves in the championship game with no problem.
Speaker 1: Yea, they won that. They won the East twice and
Speaker 1: that was you know, Tommy was on their side, Florida
Speaker 1: was down, Georgia was not what they are now under
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart, but still like those kind of things happening,
Speaker 1: it should just be an eye opener that yeah, like
Speaker 1: the thought of other good teams that play in other
Speaker 1: power for leagues coming to your league and being competitive
Speaker 1: or maybe being really really good, Like that's realistic. I
Speaker 1: mean that's not people like like it's crazy. Anyways, you're
Speaker 1: crazy if you don't stick around for these next two hours.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot more to get into. We'll talk
Speaker 1: some more. Louisville Hoops also want to talk about the
Speaker 1: NFL MVP conversation, which, of course is I think interesting
Speaker 1: this time of year, because this year, I should say,
Speaker 1: because I think there are a handful of legitimate candidates.
Speaker 1: But anybody claiming that the only reason Lamar Jackson may
Speaker 1: not win it is because he's already won it twice
Speaker 1: and they want to give it to somebody else like that,
Speaker 1: you're wrong. Like, I don't know if Lamar's gonna win it.
Speaker 1: I think other candidates are deserving as well. But if
Speaker 1: you're just gonna base it off of who's most valuable
Speaker 1: to their team and base it off of numbers and performance,
Speaker 1: it's Lamar. But I don't think he'll win it this year,
Speaker 1: because again, I just think that he's set the standards
Speaker 1: so high that like, yeah, they know he's really good,
Speaker 1: they know he's having a phenomenal season, but they're just
Speaker 1: going they're just gonna want to give it to somebody else,
Speaker 1: I think. All right, quick break two hours left right
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