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<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome into the first edition of Coffee and Company,

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<v Speaker 1>fueled by Thornton's Here in the year at twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year, everybuddy, Nick Coffee. That's me. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>the one and only mister Austin Montgomery alongside as we

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<v Speaker 1>take you up until six o'clock. And I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say it's a Monday, but it's not. It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a Monday. We've had the same consecutive weeks where we

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<v Speaker 1>have some holiday downtime on Tuesday and Wednesday. Both Wednesdays

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<v Speaker 1>were holidays where I assume, I mean, I know we

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<v Speaker 1>weren't working, Austin, but maybe some others were. But then

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<v Speaker 1>New Year's Eve, I filled in for Cruise in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning on HAS and then we did the postgame show

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<v Speaker 1>later on, so we didn't really feel like a normal

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<v Speaker 1>work day. And then of course Christmas Eve last week,

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<v Speaker 1>we were off. So I love the days that we

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<v Speaker 1>get off, even if some days, you know, even if

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a full day, maybe a half day. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the holiday season is great. That downtime between Christmas and

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<v Speaker 1>New Year's is awesome. But as someone who is a

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<v Speaker 1>very relying upon structure and consistency. I'm ready for next Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds weird to say because it's a Thursday. We

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<v Speaker 1>got Friday next week. But I just need I need

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<v Speaker 1>some consistency. I need routine. And my New Year's resolution

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<v Speaker 1>every year, for I don't know, the last four years

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing big time, no kind of huge challenge. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just start the year nick being a little bit more productive,

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<v Speaker 1>make better use of your time. Just try to be productive,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I try to always make sure I'm keeping

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on what I eat, being healthy, like most

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<v Speaker 1>of the New Year's New Year's resolutions that are very

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<v Speaker 1>common every year. I'm not great at it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>try to throughout the year, you know, pay attention to

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<v Speaker 1>those things at least, like I don't know sixty percent,

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<v Speaker 1>So happy to you everybody. I'm not sure if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have New Year's resolutions, but for me, again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always just being productive and I am not as self

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<v Speaker 1>disciplined whenever I've got a half work week.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like everybody now has hit the ground running

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<v Speaker 2>right within the new year, because last week when we

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<v Speaker 2>came in, it's still that dull area in between holidays

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<v Speaker 2>and hell, even in this office it was just, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like a graveyard all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we were all part timers. I mean yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So you come back in here today kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>expecting it the same, adds we're just off the holidays,

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<v Speaker 2>it's two more days, everyone's here. We've got a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of big wigs in today.

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<v Speaker 1>So like everyone's I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, no, I'm just like sales managers And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I meant, my bad.

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<v Speaker 1>People who you know typically aren't here every day because

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<v Speaker 1>they're traveling, because they got big they got they got

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<v Speaker 1>the real important jobs, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So again it is the first workday of the

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<v Speaker 1>new year, and I'm going to try to be productive,

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<v Speaker 1>but really it's you can still kind of half asset,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, because we've got it's Thursday, it's Mars Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, you get your first full week

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<v Speaker 1>next week. So uh, anyways, once again, happy New Year's everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know where to start. We got so

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<v Speaker 1>much to react to. It feels like one of those

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<v Speaker 1>Mondays where we come back from a busy, busy weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a weekend, but man, there is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>that has gone on since I since I last had

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<v Speaker 1>this show live, of course, and then you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the last time you heard from me was right

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<v Speaker 1>after the Tony the Tiger Sun bull win for Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Brom and his team, and I thought the postgame show

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<v Speaker 1>reaction was was pretty much what I would have expected, right,

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<v Speaker 1>very happy they won. Props to the defense there at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the game, being able to find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to win and hold on when it did not

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<v Speaker 1>look good. Antonio Watts was the superstar. And then there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of conversation on the postgame show about

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<v Speaker 1>Ron English, and we'll get back into that a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on because obviously that's something I still want

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<v Speaker 1>to share some thoughts on. And I don't really feel

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot different now than I did in the

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<v Speaker 1>moment reacting as soon as the game ended, where it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like Louisville might have had the how are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to lose this? Are we really going to lose

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<v Speaker 1>this a game like this again? And they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid it. But anyways, I mean, we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>start with what happened last night for Pat Kelsey and

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<v Speaker 1>his team, and trust me, we will talk college football

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<v Speaker 1>playoff because obviously there's a game going on today because

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<v Speaker 1>of the potential terrorist attack. I mean, it was clearly

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<v Speaker 1>a horrific thing, just absolute tragedy. But I've read a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different things as far as what they assume

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<v Speaker 1>happened here as far as this guy isolated thing or

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<v Speaker 1>is he working with some organizations, so maybe there is

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<v Speaker 1>confirmation if if he is or is not. I just

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen it yet. But again, the lot to get

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I don't want act like we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about litle basketball for three straight hours. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>the new year got off to a great start for

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Kelsey because yesterday his team picked up I think

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<v Speaker 1>what was I mean, it's not the best win they

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<v Speaker 1>have as far as resume, because that actually is West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys realized it, but West

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia they went to Lawrence, Kansas to take on Bill self,

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<v Speaker 1>and they ended up winning in Lawrence without having like

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<v Speaker 1>their three best players, or maybe it was their three

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<v Speaker 1>leading scores. Maybe that's an exaggeration. I do know they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have their top guy who they've been missing for

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<v Speaker 1>a little while now, the coach's son. But West Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>beating Kansas really gives that win that you have against

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<v Speaker 1>West Virginia a nice chance to be quad you know,

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<v Speaker 1>quad one. Maybe I don't know the numbers as far

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<v Speaker 1>as neutral site, but you like, you know, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>last night, Louisville beating North Carolina, that's a good win.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's Carolina. I think Carolina's gonna win a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of games in the ACC. This Carolina team just

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<v Speaker 1>beat I think it was Gonzaga or no, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>that Ucla Carolina before Carolina had just beat Ucla, who

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<v Speaker 1>just beat Gonzaga, so I had that confused. So Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>being Carolina, knowing they've got elite talent every year, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good win. I think it felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>for fans, but as far as resume, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>don't care a whole lot about it, but last night

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of felt like the first real big moment

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<v Speaker 1>for Pat Kelsey. And maybe that's me not giving them

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<v Speaker 1>enough credit for what they did against Indiana and West

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia in the in the Bahamas, because that was great.

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<v Speaker 1>That was sort of a game where it felt like Okay, Nationally,

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<v Speaker 1>there was some attention for the program that you hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>had in a while, meaning attention that was okay, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this Louisville team, they look pretty good. Oh yeah, Louisville,

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<v Speaker 1>we remember them. They used to be, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of important when it comes to college basketball, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a few years since that's been the case. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to not give credit where to due what

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<v Speaker 1>they did early on this year, but I think having

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<v Speaker 1>your crowd there last night on New Year's Day playing Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wins of value meaning significant value were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be hard to come by because of the way the

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<v Speaker 1>ACC is this year. So here, I am thinking it's

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<v Speaker 1>the best moment so far for Kelsey as far as

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<v Speaker 1>a specific game. But what happened at you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know was it halftime. I don't think it was

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<v Speaker 1>was it was it halftime? Whenever Michael Brown junior committed,

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<v Speaker 1>we were speechless because Austin and I were actually there

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<v Speaker 1>at the game together along with my wonderful wife Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>who goes by Mercedes when it comes to people around here,

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<v Speaker 1>which I need to reset that story as far as

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<v Speaker 1>how she got that name. But anyways, getting the commitment

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<v Speaker 1>from Michel Brown junior, the number one point guard in

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<v Speaker 1>the country, the highest rank commit for Louisville basketball since

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<v Speaker 1>Samato Samuel's. I mean, it was just an absolute great

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<v Speaker 1>day for Pat Kelsey and his team. And what really

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<v Speaker 1>makes me over the moon about this win for Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>isn't just because you know it's against a ran that

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<v Speaker 1>is Carolina. I know some people will tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina is lousy, they didn't have one of their leading scores.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine, whatever. I still think they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a tournament team. And you wins against teams you know

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to be tournament teams. So Quad one,

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<v Speaker 1>Quad two, or maybe North Carolina finishes in the top

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<v Speaker 1>thirty of the net, that will end up being a

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<v Speaker 1>Quad one.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really don't know we know if we have

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<v Speaker 2>any way of like prediction that's going to happen or not,

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<v Speaker 2>just because right now, for example, Louisville this and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not I'm not bringing this up to nitpick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sharing this to to act like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm complaining about Louisville. They can't do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess they could have, But just to

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<v Speaker 1>give you a little bit of perspective on how it

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<v Speaker 1>works when it comes to beating teams by a certain

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<v Speaker 1>margin or you know, losing winning and losing is not

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<v Speaker 1>factored in as much as it should when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the kin palm, when it comes to the net

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's ridiculous, but you know, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>you can do about it. So, for example, beat EKU,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a close call, right, they were very

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate to beat Eku seventy eight to seventy six last weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>well after after that win, because they were supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>win that game by a lot more and they barely survived.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually dropped. I mean, Louisville went from being a

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<v Speaker 1>number let's see. And this is why it's so. Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>right now is fifty four in the kin Pom. They

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<v Speaker 1>jumped up from let's see, let's see here. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>it not showing me where they were? Yees. So, after

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville actually fell more in the kN palm with a

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<v Speaker 1>two point win over Eku, then they climbed by beating

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina by thirteen points. So it's the formula system

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<v Speaker 1>that I just again, I can't so long story short

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<v Speaker 1>with Carolina, that is that's a you know, if they

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<v Speaker 1>end up finishing in the top thirty, that'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>quad one win. And I feel like they will because

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna win a lot of games, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have Like North Carolina is a team that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just to pull up their schedule here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Palm has them beating Notre Dame by four, SMU

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<v Speaker 1>by four. So yeah, because Carolina has struggled a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit this year, more so than usual, their expectation as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you know, what the what the formula predicts

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<v Speaker 1>is not as it's not as big of a margin

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<v Speaker 1>as you would have typically expected with the North Carolina team.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you mess around and lose one of these games,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe you end up beating a team but not

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<v Speaker 1>nearly by as much as I guess you were supposed to,

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<v Speaker 1>then then that'll be really dependent upon can Carolina stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the top thirty. And I don't even know why

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about the resume stuff so much, because again,

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<v Speaker 1>last night, it didn't really matter for me as far

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<v Speaker 1>as Carolina being a team that rank was ranked here

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<v Speaker 1>or how many losses they had. I mean, obviously, if

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been a little bit different. But Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>they won eighty three to seventy, and they just went

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean as if like they comple punk them, but

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<v Speaker 1>like it things that you know you really don't get

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<v Speaker 1>a great feel for just by looking at the box score,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's just intensity, energy, attention to detail,

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<v Speaker 1>hustle plays. I don't think Carolina was out there loafing it,

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<v Speaker 1>but Louisville was better in those areas, which is how

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<v Speaker 1>of threes to be taken, and you know, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot a great percentage that's a little bit out

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<v Speaker 1>of their control. And I don't even really know if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a percentage that Pat Kelce, you know, where the

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<v Speaker 1>make thirty seven percent in a game, then they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be aokay. I mean, I don't know if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a specific number that he wonts every game. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think some numbers that you typically rely on to

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty good if you're going to win, they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't there last night for Louisville. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>shot only forty five percent overall. And look, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one that's really frustrating, and I totally get it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that we should be worried about free throw shooting. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they were twenty five of thirty nine from the line

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<v Speaker 1>at sixty four percent. You shot forty threes nearly and

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<v Speaker 1>only made sixty four percent of them. Like that's these

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<v Speaker 1>are things that like should worry you Now, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>if they were getting good looks, and I think last night,

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, they were getting good looks. They

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't knock them down, and that happens, but it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter because they were just I mean, their scout

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<v Speaker 1>for Carolina. I mean, I know Brian Cleman, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the defensive coordinator for Pat Kelsey, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>they were ready to make things rough for RJ. Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the better guards you'll find in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>at least he was for the first five years of

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<v Speaker 1>his career. I'm not really sure how much. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still pretty good player, clearly you can tell that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, they were just ready. They were better.

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<v Speaker 1>They were better, they were better coached. When whenever Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>would make some runs to either trim the deficit to nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>to tie it up, or maybe they claw back within

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<v Speaker 1>just a bucket or two, Louisville seem to always be

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<v Speaker 1>able to respond. And you know, these are little things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it sounds like I'm just drooling over

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Kelsey, and you know, maybe I am. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I am now that I give it some thought,

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't ever lose their head whenever they're having

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<v Speaker 1>a rough night shooting, they don't ever lose composure. And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's what I mean when I say lose

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<v Speaker 1>their head. They keep composure. They they you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>see any body language shift when they're having a really

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<v Speaker 1>tough night. From three I wish and they should be

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<v Speaker 1>better at shooting free throws, but they've had nights like

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<v Speaker 1>this where they're not, and I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>teams would would start to sweat and get a little

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<v Speaker 1>tight because they realize, man, we're leaving a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>points out here on the floor by not making these

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<v Speaker 1>free throws. And again, you need to make free throws.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an issue. They got to get better there. But

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<v Speaker 1>they could have a run go against them. Carolina made

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<v Speaker 1>a huge run before Louisville made they're big thirteen to

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<v Speaker 1>one run to end the game. Carolina, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Nana didn't make a field goal in the last five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>So with that, like I just I think that speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to how well they're coach. Man, the culture, the environment,

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<v Speaker 1>all these things that you know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>probably think are just filler words that aren't really that important,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think louis of fans can tell you they

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<v Speaker 1>are important. We learned the hard way, like having a

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<v Speaker 1>leader that can really instill a culture where guys are

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna go. I mean a very much a team

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<v Speaker 1>thing to where nobody's self nobody seems selfish on this team.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the energy from the bench is always great.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I still have no clue what this

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<v Speaker 1>season's gonna end up looking like for this team in March.

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<v Speaker 1>Really have no way of knowing, But man, I love

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<v Speaker 1>watching this group. I really do. I don't. I mean, clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the most talented team by any means. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any NBA players on this group. You really

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<v Speaker 1>only have about seven guys right now. Well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you could say eight because they are getting Tree are

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<v Speaker 1>back in the mix. So when I tell you, guys

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<v Speaker 1>how much I love this team and it's been a fun,

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<v Speaker 1>fun ride thus far, I know some will say that

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<v Speaker 1>it's because of what happened the last few years, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably right. I know that's a factor to an extent.

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<v Speaker 1>But even if Louisville fired Kenny Payne because he was

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred in two straight seasons. I mean that still

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<v Speaker 1>would have been fireable for a place like Louisville in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, But I still think I would have the

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<v Speaker 1>same feeling for this group. Man, I really really think

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody from top to bottom, and I'm talking top

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<v Speaker 1>to bottom, equipment managers, trainers, every staffer, Kelsey of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean everybody within the program. I feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>have a real appreciation to be here. And last night,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for example, on KSR this morning, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>starting the new year, one of their big topics early

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<v Speaker 1>on in the show was to make fun of Louisvill's

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<v Speaker 1>attendance last night, which I was there. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was that bad at all. Now again, the upper

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<v Speaker 1>level clearly some empty seats, but I thought the energy

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<v Speaker 1>was great. So you know, these these everybody in the program,

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<v Speaker 1>although some look at little, some with real familiarity with

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville basketball, and I guess you know what it once

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<v Speaker 1>was before these down years happened. It still doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like it's good enough, right, which I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of LOIVEL fans understand and they're completely content with everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But my point is, even if you would to the

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<v Speaker 1>game last night and you were really underwhelming because you

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't been to a game in a few years, in

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<v Speaker 1>town for a few years, and you're like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go to the Yumps Center and watch this

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Kelsey squat play, you know, really really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see him. I'd been in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe you went and you thought, brother, why aren't

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<v Speaker 1>there twenty thousand plus here? What happened? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>If that's you? And I'm not sure if that person exists, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>just know that what you felt like was maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little underwhelming, and I hope he still had a good

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<v Speaker 1>time as I speak to a non existent person potentially,

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<v Speaker 1>But my point is that they, meaning everybody within this program, player, coach, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>top to bottom. They appreciated the energy that was there

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<v Speaker 1>last night. They probably had some reflection at Tom's thinking, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is awesome. I'm playing in front of this great crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the energy they're bringing in the Young Center,

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<v Speaker 1>We're playing North Carolina, so the vibes are really really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know how good this team's gonna be, obviously, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have fun watching them, man, I really am.

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<v Speaker 1>And again we've got to discuss how big it is

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<v Speaker 1>to get mckel brown, the five star point guard who

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<v Speaker 1>committed last night during the game, which I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>he signed with Louisville like before Thanksgiving. I think, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>And he's just been sitting on it waiting to have

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<v Speaker 1>a moment like this. So good stuff, no doubt. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty good? Had the bowl game? The last thirty seconds

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<v Speaker 4>I think there was referee should be super malpractice. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean it was horrible. It was horrible officiating. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>that was just no you know, like when the guy

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<v Speaker 4>should have been called a touchback and the past the

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<v Speaker 4>past interference was ridiculous. I mean it was terrible call.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah it was. But you know my concern, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>is the next year the UFL secondary. Boy, if you

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<v Speaker 4>watch the second touchdown that the past that the touchdown

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<v Speaker 4>passed the second one was that receiver he was he

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<v Speaker 4>was so wide open. I think you need a search

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<v Speaker 4>party find the secondary on that. I mean, our guys,

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<v Speaker 1>So we talked a lot about that on the postgame show, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that players should always be held accountable. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's not something that can just be thrown

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<v Speaker 1>But I think in two years time, when Louisville's defense

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<v Speaker 1>has more often than not, when they've had really good plays,

417
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<v Speaker 1>really good games, or they've had some really head scratching results,

418
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<v Speaker 1>I tend to think that the issues have been more

419
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<v Speaker 1>so with with communication, with strategy. Just seems like at

420
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<v Speaker 1>times they're they're kind of lost out there, and I

421
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<v Speaker 1>think when they've made plays again, the defense, the coaching

422
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<v Speaker 1>staff deserves credit. Ron English deserves credit for I guess,

423
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<v Speaker 1>putting these guys in these spots. But I think Louisvill's

424
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<v Speaker 1>had better defensive personnel than you would think in some

425
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<v Speaker 1>of these games, and that comes down to Ron English.

426
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<v Speaker 1>So look, I know that they're adding players in the

427
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<v Speaker 1>portal really at every position. I'm sure that the secondary

428
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<v Speaker 1>is is something that they're well aware that they need

429
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<v Speaker 1>to make sure they're good to go for next year.

430
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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I really my worry, Dave is this. I

431
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<v Speaker 1>think lit is gonna have a lot of offensive firepower

432
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<v Speaker 1>next year. I mean, you bring back two great running backs.

433
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<v Speaker 1>Colin Lacey looked great in the Bowl game. Obviously, Chris

434
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<v Speaker 1>Bell emerged I think late in the year to be

435
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<v Speaker 1>a guy that I think it's safe to say he

436
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<v Speaker 1>had a breakout year. They just added a receiver from

437
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<v Speaker 1>Nebraska in the portal today. So my worry, I think

438
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<v Speaker 1>Miller Moss is really good. But my worry, Dave, is

439
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<v Speaker 1>that you gonna you're gonna be in a position next

440
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<v Speaker 1>year if Ron English is back to where you know,

441
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<v Speaker 1>you've got the offense to maybe score with just about anybody,

442
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<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna have to worry is the defense gonna

443
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<v Speaker 1>also give up thirty five points to where your offense

444
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<v Speaker 1>is gonna have pressure like they did on Tuesday in

445
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<v Speaker 1>that Bowl game, for example, I thought that thirty five

446
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<v Speaker 1>points in three quarters from the Louisville offense should have

447
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<v Speaker 1>been enough to where you didn't have to sweat it

448
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<v Speaker 1>out there towards the end. So, you know, I players

449
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<v Speaker 1>always got to be held accountable. But I just I worry,

450
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<v Speaker 1>do we have the right guy leading the defense long term?

451
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Well yeah, but you know something else. The pass

452
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<v Speaker 4>rush couldn't much nonexistent, you know, without a lot. You know,

453
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<v Speaker 4>two years ago when we won the Fenway Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I also Abdulah and Dabi, those guys, they were both

456
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<v Speaker 4>drafted and they played that game. So I'm wondering. You know,

457
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<v Speaker 4>I don't think Joe out of it was hurt. I

458
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<v Speaker 4>mean he was, he was just you know, they opted out,

459
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<v Speaker 4>which you know, to me, I don't know if if

460
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<v Speaker 4>a guy, if a guy is afraid of getting hurt.

461
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<v Speaker 4>Why was he even playing during the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I get a Dave. I appreciate the call.

463
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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to hear from you. Happy New Year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's many many fans that ask the same

466
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<v Speaker 1>question Dave just asked, which is, you know other guys

467
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<v Speaker 1>play who are also hoping to go to the NFL,

468
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<v Speaker 1>and it's everybody's own personal decision. I don't think Ashton

469
00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:39.960
<v Speaker 1>would have gained anything by playing. And if you're somebody

470
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<v Speaker 1>that says, well, hey, he should finish with his team,

471
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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that you're crazy. I think a lot

472
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<v Speaker 1>of people have that same thought process. But I also understand,

473
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<v Speaker 1>you know, the risk were when you're thinking about your future,

474
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<v Speaker 1>your livelihood and you realize there's not a whole lot

475
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<v Speaker 1>to gain from playing in the game, it's probably not

476
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<v Speaker 1>going to do much to your stock. You could get hurt.

477
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think there's examples out there, and I've

478
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<v Speaker 1>used the example from twenty sixteen before Cole Hicckattini was

479
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<v Speaker 1>a really good tight end. He may never have played

480
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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, for you know, he did play in

481
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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, but like he didn't get drafted because he

482
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<v Speaker 1>got hurt at a Bowl game against LSU, and that

483
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<v Speaker 1>kept him from being able to work out for NFL

484
00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:20.440
<v Speaker 1>teams during that process, when you've got when you're about

485
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<v Speaker 1>to come up on basically the biggest job interview of

486
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<v Speaker 1>your life, right, you're a guy that knows you got

487
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<v Speaker 1>to go show out in the combine. If you get

488
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<v Speaker 1>the invite, you got to show out when you have

489
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<v Speaker 1>these workouts, that's your audition for It's the biggest audition

490
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<v Speaker 1>of your life. Because look, if you're somebody that you

491
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<v Speaker 1>know is shit or Sanders or Travis Hunter, those kind

492
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<v Speaker 1>of guys, you know these you know where you're going

493
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<v Speaker 1>in the draft, right, it's a no brainer. But when

494
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<v Speaker 1>you know that you've got to make an impression, and

495
00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, you finish the regular season and you know

496
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<v Speaker 1>you were healthy, and then you I get it up.

497
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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go down that path today, but like,

498
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<v Speaker 1>I totally get it. Why guys decide they just you

499
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<v Speaker 1>know they're going to go ahead and turn that page

500
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<v Speaker 1>to the next chapter in their life and start getting

501
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<v Speaker 1>ready for a pro career. And you know, I kind

502
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<v Speaker 1>of liked in a way knowing that this game was

503
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<v Speaker 1>going to be kind of whatever because you have. And

504
00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that's where it really just kind of went. It was

505
00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:19.279
<v Speaker 1>frustrating when it comes to how that game ended, because

506
00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:21.519
<v Speaker 1>if you'd have lost a close game and it just

507
00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:23.359
<v Speaker 1>felt like, okay, yeah, this is what we get with

508
00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:26.559
<v Speaker 1>a backup quarterback whose third string, This is what we

509
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<v Speaker 1>get with you know, not having JULYI, not having Quincy Riley,

510
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<v Speaker 1>not having Jacory Brooks, and it just looked like, you know,

511
00:23:32.920 --> 00:23:35.279
<v Speaker 1>you were missing those guys in a major way and

512
00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you came up short and barely lost. That would have sucked,

513
00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:40.519
<v Speaker 1>because nobody wants to lose at any point, but that

514
00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:42.480
<v Speaker 1>would be like, okay, well you know what, like let's

515
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<v Speaker 1>not act like we really care. This is the stupid

516
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<v Speaker 1>Sun Bowl anyway. But for Louisville to be up two

517
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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns in the fourth quarter and then nearly just blow it,

518
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<v Speaker 1>that made it to where like it would have been

519
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<v Speaker 1>hard they'd lost. It would have been really hard for me

520
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<v Speaker 1>not to say, okay, like losing these whatever bowl games,

521
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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really change a whole lot as far how

522
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<v Speaker 1>we view the season, but it would have been another

523
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<v Speaker 1>example I think to point to and say, man, do

524
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<v Speaker 1>we have issues finding ways to lose games? Because that

525
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<v Speaker 1>you know, so anyways, and look, they barely held on.

526
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<v Speaker 1>It was the Antonio Watts tip ball that kept that

527
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<v Speaker 1>disaster from happening. So you know, just I think it's

528
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<v Speaker 1>a reminder you can have, you can feel a certain

529
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<v Speaker 1>way about the way things are shaping up towards the

530
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<v Speaker 1>end of a game and kind of know that even

531
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<v Speaker 1>if you do hold on and win, the things you

532
00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:32.559
<v Speaker 1>were frustrated about still happened. Right, It didn't change, but

533
00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:35.599
<v Speaker 1>winning and losing it go a long way. So Jeff

534
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<v Speaker 1>Bram and his team were able to get that ninth win,

535
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<v Speaker 1>and I really think that was huge for not having

536
00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>a sour taste in the mouth of some fans. And look,

537
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<v Speaker 1>if you're somebody that wouldn't have cared at all, because

538
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<v Speaker 1>you know, you just don't view these Bowl games as

539
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<v Speaker 1>anything other than the glorified exhibitions as a lot of

540
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<v Speaker 1>people call them. Than fine, But man, it was nice

541
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<v Speaker 1>to see them close it out. And I'll say this

542
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<v Speaker 1>about the officiating. I get I cringe when I hear

543
00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:01.839
<v Speaker 1>people in sinuate that you know the refs are like

544
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:04.559
<v Speaker 1>biased against them and that you know they lost games

545
00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:09.400
<v Speaker 1>because of officials and this and that, because there's bad

546
00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:12.039
<v Speaker 1>plays in every bad calls in every game, bad no

547
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>calls in every game, and sometimes you end up having

548
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:17.039
<v Speaker 1>more of them go your way than the opponent and

549
00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it helps you win. So like it's just part of sports.

550
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<v Speaker 1>But had they ended up and again this can still

551
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<v Speaker 1>be said and it remains true, you were just able

552
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<v Speaker 1>to hold on and win. But I feel like this

553
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>year for Louisville football, any fifty to fifty play and look,

554
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:33.279
<v Speaker 1>sometimes there were just bad calls that went against you.

555
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:35.039
<v Speaker 1>And look that happens. It's not just Louisvill. There's other

556
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<v Speaker 1>teams that can say that they had some bad calls

557
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>this year that went against them. But I can think

558
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<v Speaker 1>of four or five moments where it's okay that it's

559
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<v Speaker 1>fifty to fifty. We're gonna either get lucky here or

560
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<v Speaker 1>we're not, or they probably call like for example whenever

561
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the pass interference was a terrible call in

562
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<v Speaker 1>the bowl game, but then the fifty to fifty call

563
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<v Speaker 1>I think was the touchback right, Like, I don't know

564
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<v Speaker 1>if you saw I would have called a touchbawn maybe unbiased.

565
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<v Speaker 1>I think in those situations Louisville this year, and it's

566
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<v Speaker 1>not because I think that the refs are against them,

567
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<v Speaker 1>and that if they can screw Louisville over, they're gonna try.

568
00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:10.880
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna make sure they do it. It's just that

569
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>those things didn't go their way really at all this year,

570
00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:16.079
<v Speaker 1>because that was that was a play that you know,

571
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<v Speaker 1>I think they called it the way they called it

572
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<v Speaker 1>because they didn't see enough in the review to go

573
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<v Speaker 1>back and say, oh, that was a touchback. But I

574
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:24.279
<v Speaker 1>think it was a touchback. I mean, you go back

575
00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:27.759
<v Speaker 1>to the SMU game where they fumbled and they went

576
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:29.839
<v Speaker 1>back and said, uh, and that's where I feel like

577
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.119
<v Speaker 1>he got boned in that one, because I feel like

578
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 1>you got to stand with the call because there wasn't

579
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:37.519
<v Speaker 1>enough there to overturn your initial call. But sure enough

580
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:39.599
<v Speaker 1>they decided to reverse it. SMU gets the ball that

581
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>had a huge impact in Louisville losing that game. Go

582
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.440
<v Speaker 1>to the Miami game, cam Ward, he got hit as

583
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>he threw it, somebody scooped it up for the Louisville defense,

584
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:49.559
<v Speaker 1>took it to the house with the touchdown. But yet

585
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.079
<v Speaker 1>they went and reviewed it and said, yeah, that's that's

586
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<v Speaker 1>a forward pass. So you know, I'm not even saying

587
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<v Speaker 1>that's the worst call ever. But in those situations, it

588
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<v Speaker 1>just kind of felt like this was just a really bad,

589
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>had luck type a year when it comes to officiating.

590
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.640
<v Speaker 1>And again, every team can go back and watch every

591
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:06.880
<v Speaker 1>game and figure out calls that went against them this

592
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and that. It's not to say that Louisville is just

593
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, cursed or anything, but it seemed like in

594
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>those moments where it was like, all right, I'm not

595
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 1>really sure what they can do here. They called it

596
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.200
<v Speaker 1>incorrectly on the field, but do they have enough evidence

597
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>to say that they can overturn it or vice versa.

598
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:21.519
<v Speaker 1>And in those situations, just felt like they went against

599
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Louisville this year. But again, I'm I'm in my own

600
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<v Speaker 1>head here because I just don't want people to think

601
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Speaker 1>that I'm the guy that claims the refs like when

602
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Louisville does get a bad call go against him, it's

603
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<v Speaker 1>because it was personal and they're just looking to screw

604
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<v Speaker 1>us over, although I do know a lot of fans

605
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>to see seem to think that way. All right, So

606
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<v Speaker 1>real quick, before we get to our next break, sticking

607
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>with with football here, I just mentioned this earlier when

608
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:47.079
<v Speaker 1>we were chatting with Dave, who called in and the

609
00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:50.759
<v Speaker 1>latest commitment for Louisville via the portal is in fact

610
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<v Speaker 1>from the wide receiver position, which I'm not that's not

611
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:57.079
<v Speaker 1>necessarily a position that I would have expected to see them.

612
00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:59.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're gonna need depth at every at every spot.

613
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<v Speaker 1>Whoever Nebraska transfer Isaiah and Nayor has signed with Louisville.

614
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<v Speaker 1>He played at Texas and Wyoming, has totaled over fifteen

615
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred yards in fact, yeah, just right about sixteen hundred

616
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.559
<v Speaker 1>yards and had seventeen touchdowns in his career, which clearly

617
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>he's been a pretty good player. He's played at a

618
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of different schools. But I you know, he doesn't

619
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>need to be great, he just needs to be solid

620
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:23.839
<v Speaker 1>because I think Chris Bell again, I think he had

621
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>a breakout year. It was shaky early, but I really

622
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>trust him as a big time playmaker. For Jeff Brom,

623
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:30.839
<v Speaker 1>we know what you have in Colin Lacy. So I

624
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<v Speaker 1>would imagine Nayer's decision to leave probably had a little

625
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<v Speaker 1>bit to do with the fact that they've just added

626
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<v Speaker 1>two receivers at Nebraska from Kentucky. Both Hardley Gilmour and

627
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Dane Key have committed to Nebraska after leaving Kentucky. I'm

628
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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure Nebraska hired the Kentucky receivers coach. You know,

629
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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of staffers who coach on the offensive

630
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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball that played for her coach for

631
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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky and Mark Stoops, they typically want to leave because

632
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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's not a good place for an office coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville right now, I don't have the latest as far

634
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<v Speaker 1>as where they're ranking. A little bit later on, I

635
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<v Speaker 1>just haven't. I haven't been keeping up with it as

636
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<v Speaker 1>much as far as where Louisville ranks in the portal.

637
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get why people reference that, and hell yeah,

638
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<v Speaker 1>Louisville ends up being ranked really really high on the portal.

639
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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna say, hell

640
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<v Speaker 1>yeah that and I'm gonna talk about it. I'm gonna

641
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<v Speaker 1>brag about it because I'm alive a fan.

642
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<v Speaker 2>You want to get on to talk with you.

643
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<v Speaker 1>I think this year with Brohm, what he's going to

644
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<v Speaker 1>talk with it on the I don't know if it's

645
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<v Speaker 1>because of something he learned throughout you know, you talk

646
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>about it earlier the portal, Eric, but I'd say right now,

647
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<v Speaker 1>a good chunk of the guys that he has got

648
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<v Speaker 1>commitments from via the portal are guys who play for

649
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 1>like really low level, low level G five or even FCS. Okay,

650
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean then you're somehow maybe concerned about that, you

651
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:51.839
<v Speaker 1>know whatever, Like I get it, you need you need

652
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>talent to be able to compete at a high level. However,

653
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<v Speaker 1>I actually think that Jeff Jeff once guys that are

654
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.519
<v Speaker 1>gonna be hungry. Obviously they want to pay day because

655
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:03.759
<v Speaker 1>you know that's a factor now too within IL. But

656
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<v Speaker 1>I think Jeff is of the belief that guys who

657
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<v Speaker 1>want to come to Louisville not just to collect another

658
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<v Speaker 1>check like some of the guys did last year who

659
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:14.599
<v Speaker 1>transferred in mid season and then bailed after spring, and

660
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 1>you want to avoid that if you can. So I

661
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>think he's going after guys that you know, they're not

662
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<v Speaker 1>just coming to the higher level because they are utilizing

663
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<v Speaker 1>the portal and want to get paid. They also want

664
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<v Speaker 1>to show what they can do at a power for program.

665
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<v Speaker 1>So good energy, good vibes for both Louisville basketball and

666
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<v Speaker 1>football right now. It certainly seems as we get twenty

667
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:35.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty five started speaking of officiating, we just talked about

668
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 1>some of the unfortunate calls that went against Louisville this year.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to talk about the non targeting call yesterday

670
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<v Speaker 1>in the Texas Arizona state game. I'm learned. I mean,

671
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't need to be reminded of this, but I'm

672
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<v Speaker 1>I can confirm. I'll put it that way. Texas is

673
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<v Speaker 1>a big state with a lot of people, and they

674
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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of fans. Just by me sharing the

675
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>video of the blatant targeting, they didn't get called. It's

676
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<v Speaker 1>now got more than a quarter of a million views

677
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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and nothing. I mean, I'm not even checking

678
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>my mentions right now because all it is is Texas

679
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>fans telling me I'm an idiot. Oh yeah, and you

680
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:08.759
<v Speaker 1>know it's fine, Like I get it. That's what this

681
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that's what this toxic platform is meaning Twitter. But man, like,

682
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<v Speaker 1>it's all I did was Texas fans. Yeah, I shared

683
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>what everybody else was sharing, and I shared what was obvious.

684
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<v Speaker 1>It's a fact, not an opinion, that was targeting. They

685
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't get called, and it's just got everybody and they're

686
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 1>they're filling up their diapers and and uh.

687
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<v Speaker 2>Get them filling it some type of way.

688
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe maybe I'll read some of the very mean

689
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 1>dms that they've that they've sent my way just because

690
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I acknowledged that they were they were fortunate to benefit

691
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<v Speaker 1>from a targeting call that didn't get called. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>quick break, we'll come back on the other side. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>it rolling along. It's coffee and Company. Feel by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 3>Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 3>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 1>For what it's worth, maybe Texas fans were so angry

698
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<v Speaker 1>about I was gonna say, for what it's worth, I'm

699
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<v Speaker 1>not anti Texas at all. I really don't have any

700
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.319
<v Speaker 1>opinion one way or the other about Texas football or anything. Uh,

701
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 1>but I shared this tweet yesterday once the replay showed

702
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<v Speaker 1>that it was I mean, it's textbook targeting when it

703
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>comes to that rule. And I don't know, put it

704
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<v Speaker 1>this way, if that was called targeting, and like, it

705
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>wasn't Texas in that spot, it was anybody, Like I

706
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.279
<v Speaker 1>don't actually don't think there's any scenario any team could

707
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 1>have been called for targeting there in any situation and

708
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>people would have said, like, oh my god, what a

709
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>terrible call. So it was a it was a it

710
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.319
<v Speaker 1>was a terrible no call, that they reviewed it and

711
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.079
<v Speaker 1>still decided no, no targeting. And the only people that

712
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I've seen making the case like that that's not that's

713
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 1>not correct, and that it that it was a good

714
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<v Speaker 1>no call after getting under the hood looking at it

715
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 1>and then and then deciding yeah, you know what, uh

716
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:55.359
<v Speaker 1>clean play. I mean, it's only Texas fans and it's you,

717
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's most of the people that are just you know,

718
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 1>clearly biased and and fortunate and look, it's okay, every team,

719
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.279
<v Speaker 1>every fan base, I should say, if they're being honest,

720
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:06.799
<v Speaker 1>knows that their team has benefited at times from a

721
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:12.279
<v Speaker 1>really good no call or a really you know it happens, right,

722
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>big time calls that are bad ones end up in

723
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>your favor pretty often. But like I guess Texas just

724
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to acknowledge that, you know, they were lucky

725
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>to survive, and it's guess it's tough to know like

726
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>if what Arizona State would have been able to do

727
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>from then on, but like that gave Texas life by

728
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:34.559
<v Speaker 1>them not having the balls to call that targeting because

729
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>of what it would have done in that game. What

730
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it would it would have given Texas probably

731
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<v Speaker 1>what percentage chance of winning at that point. I mean,

732
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:46.079
<v Speaker 1>we'll never know, but I don't know how anybody can

733
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<v Speaker 1>say that the facts in front of us that that

734
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<v Speaker 1>was targeting and they were lucky that they decided not

735
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<v Speaker 1>to call it like that, don't even It's not an opinion,

736
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<v Speaker 1>it's a fact. So if you are just now joining us,

737
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<v Speaker 1>I shared the replay video. This was from who was

738
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<v Speaker 1>it the actually the video itself came from us. He've

739
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<v Speaker 1>been pulled up here from Warren Sharp, who is a

740
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<v Speaker 1>big time account on Twitter. I think he's got like, yeah,

741
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>he's got four hundred thousand followers. He's a football guy

742
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. I don't know much about his background, but

743
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>nonetheless he's the one who just I guess videoed his

744
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>TV and uploaded it as they showed the replay of

745
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 1>what was clearly targeting. I shared it and said, Texas

746
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 1>quite literally advances because the officials were afraid to call

747
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:34.760
<v Speaker 1>blatant targeting late in the fourth quarter. Well again, that

748
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>tweet me sharing the video again, not the video itself,

749
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:42.559
<v Speaker 1>but my actual tweet has over two hundred and sixty

750
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:47.360
<v Speaker 1>five thousand impressions now and it's just mostly Texas fans,

751
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:50.599
<v Speaker 1>or actually last night it was people share retweeting it

752
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and saying, you know, I guess in support that they

753
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:54.800
<v Speaker 1>agreed that that was blatant targeted. They didn't call. But

754
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>then since late last night, it's been nothing but Texas

755
00:34:57.719 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 1>fans just you know, and I don't. I'm sure they're

756
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>doing it to everybody, right, It's not just me. Anybody

757
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.280
<v Speaker 1>who's out there sharing that video and claiming they were

758
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.599
<v Speaker 1>lucky because the refs were scared to call targeting. It's

759
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>not like they're singling me out. But it's been annoying

760
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 1>today when it comes to my Twitter mentions and whatnot.

761
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 1>But the playoff itself, I mean, you had the SMU

762
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Penn State, not the SMU, but the Penn State and

763
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Boise State game. I mean, I guess it was kind

764
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<v Speaker 1>of kind of a dud, I suppose. And I've got

765
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.599
<v Speaker 1>some complaints about the playoff, but I don't want to.

766
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't. My complaints about certain things have nothing to

767
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:34.079
<v Speaker 1>do with like is the playoff a good thing? The

768
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:36.599
<v Speaker 1>College Football Playoff expanding to twelve is awesome. There's no

769
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<v Speaker 1>result that I think we could get from here on

770
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>out until this thing's over that I would say, yeah,

771
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't have done that, but they're clearly going to

772
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 1>have to go revisit the situation with the Buys, because

773
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<v Speaker 1>you know James Franklin, it's not personal against him, like

774
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>he's a fine coach, seems like a good dude too,

775
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't you know, I don't have anything against him,

776
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>but like he's never really won the big games at Penn.

777
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 1>He's for the most part, done a really good job

778
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>of always beating the teams he's supposed to beat. But

779
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:06.559
<v Speaker 1>when you get into a spot where, okay, can you

780
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:08.119
<v Speaker 1>get over the hump? Are you gonna beat Ohio State?

781
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:09.679
<v Speaker 1>Can you get over the hump? Are you gonna beat

782
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Michigan whenever they're rolling? And they don't. They don't ever

783
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>really do that. And I guess now that you've got

784
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<v Speaker 1>Oregon in the Big Ten, I guess you know, you

785
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 1>could claim there's still a team that would be viewed

786
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<v Speaker 1>as like that would be a big win for Franklin.

787
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.719
<v Speaker 1>But they didn't play him this year. So what happens

788
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 1>with James Franklin, the guy who you know can't ever

789
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 1>win the big games seemingly and get over the hump,

790
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>he gets a gift. I mean, they play SMU at

791
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:34.719
<v Speaker 1>home to start it off, and then they get they

792
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:38.159
<v Speaker 1>get Boise State in a neutral site, which no offerends

793
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.559
<v Speaker 1>to Boise State. But like, you know, nobody really believes

794
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:42.079
<v Speaker 1>that they are one of the best teams in the

795
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>country right now. Again, it doesn't matter. I mean, you

796
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>can I don't think Arizona State's one of the best

797
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>teams in the country. They should have won yesterday.

798
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<v Speaker 4>So I.

799
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<v Speaker 1>Love the playoff and that we have it. But I

800
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.760
<v Speaker 1>was so angry yesterday and I don't know why. Like

801
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 1>I bet on Texas to win about thirteen and a

802
00:36:57.159 --> 00:36:59.519
<v Speaker 1>half and that was shot in the fourth quarter because

803
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:04.119
<v Speaker 1>of the explosion from Scataboo and that Arizona State team.

804
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I found myself pulling for the underdog. I

805
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:08.039
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of you know, we don't really have

806
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:10.159
<v Speaker 1>any skin in the game, and I already know my

807
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>bets off, I'm gonna find myself rooting for the underdog,

808
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>which is what Arizona State clearly was. But when I

809
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>saw everybody after the game, pretty much universally saying they

810
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 1>can't all be thrillers. But man, did that one really deliver. Wow,

811
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>what an absolute performance between these two teams, Arizona State

812
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:34.519
<v Speaker 1>and Texas. Like I'm not surprised when people say that,

813
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>because again, the Peach Bowl was great, but I'm thinking,

814
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 1>how can you call it such a great game and

815
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>it delivered? That was awesome whenever I mean, the refs

816
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>were scared to call a blatant targeting on Texas and

817
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:54.360
<v Speaker 1>that that robbed Arizona State of an opportunity to win.

818
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>And again I say it that way because I don't

819
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what they would have done, but like that

820
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.559
<v Speaker 1>to me makes it where I don't feel like the game.

821
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the game itself was a great finish, and

822
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:06.079
<v Speaker 1>I was entertained by the back and forth, and especially

823
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to see Texas at what fourth and eighteen get the

824
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>touchdown there and then turn around and score on the

825
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>very next play on in the second overtime, Like that

826
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 1>was entertaining, but like it shouldn't have happened. And I

827
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.679
<v Speaker 1>know bad calls happen all the time, but in that moment,

828
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.800
<v Speaker 1>that's not a what are you gonna do? You gotta

829
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 1>stick with the no call on the field, what are

830
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<v Speaker 1>you gonna do? It's just it's so tough to tell.

831
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<v Speaker 1>What are you gonna do? You could go either way

832
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and everybody would understand that isn't what it was. It

833
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 1>was targeting, if that's called target there again, I said

834
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<v Speaker 1>this when we started talking about it a few minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 1>If you and it's impossible I guess to do this

836
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<v Speaker 1>at times, because we all have some biases, I suppose,

837
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<v Speaker 1>But if you were just being one thousand, one billion

838
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:51.519
<v Speaker 1>percent objective and you did not know, let's just say

839
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you got two guys out there wearing the uniforms of

840
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 1>non existent teams, teams from you know, give me some

841
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>made up teams Austin from movies and TV shows. Blue

842
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Mountain State, Yeah, Blue Mountain State. And what was Varsity Blues?

843
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<v Speaker 1>The uh? Why can I not remember this? It's gonna

844
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 1>drive me crazy. The Coyotes?

845
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Was it Coyotes?

846
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<v Speaker 1>I have one of their helmets. What about the mud Dogs?

847
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I have Alutele. Yeah we can do the mud Dogs.

848
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<v Speaker 1>But now, yeah, Varsity Blues. They were the West Canaan.

849
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Was it the West Canaan Coyotes? Yes, okay, I know

850
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>it was West Caan, Yeah, wesnon. So let's say we've

851
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<v Speaker 1>got West Conan, the West Canon Coyotes, and we've got

852
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>the mud Dogs. Of where is it Eleano? Is that

853
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Bouche showed up at halftime? The mud Dog's gonna

854
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>win the bourbon boat. Anyways, my point is this, just

855
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>take two non existent teams and if you watch that play,

856
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>you would you would say that's targeting every single time.

857
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 1>And when you get down to like the semantics of well,

858
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>looks like he led more with his with his forehead

859
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.280
<v Speaker 1>than the true crown. Like that, you're just desperate to

860
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:57.119
<v Speaker 1>try to find a way to justify that your team,

861
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>meaning Texas didn't get a really big break and I

862
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 1>don't want to get in I mean, maybe we can,

863
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>but we don't have time to do it right now.

864
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:09.519
<v Speaker 1>But I just when you already have ESPN owning this event,

865
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<v Speaker 1>this is a this is a this is a television production.

866
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 1>The College Football Playoff is an ESPN owned thing, at

867
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<v Speaker 1>least I guess it has been for the most part.

868
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:19.679
<v Speaker 1>That game was on ESPN. The SEC of course, is

869
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>in bed with the ESPN. We all know that. So

870
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<v Speaker 1>like I try not to believe in conspiracies and think

871
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.159
<v Speaker 1>that anybody would you know, going in know that we

872
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:31.039
<v Speaker 1>got to make sure we look out for the SCC,

873
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:32.679
<v Speaker 1>Like I just I don't. I just have a hard

874
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:34.559
<v Speaker 1>time thinking that that that you know, that kind of

875
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>stuff would ever go on. But when you see that

876
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.639
<v Speaker 1>yesterday play out the way that it did, the SEC's

877
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.559
<v Speaker 1>new darling Texas. And look, let's be real. If Texas

878
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<v Speaker 1>gets he beat by Arizona State, which they should have,

879
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's just Georgia left, and Georgia doesn't win the

880
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:51.079
<v Speaker 1>national championship, maybe they come up short, which could easily happen,

881
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Like the SEC would would have a lot of egg

882
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:57.559
<v Speaker 1>on their face, would they not? Because what would you have?

883
00:40:57.599 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>What would you claim? You bark about how you're just

884
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.880
<v Speaker 1>better and it's just because you're the SEC it means more.

885
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 1>And you know, you don't think that winning and losing

886
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.000
<v Speaker 1>should count because you know, you just you play in

887
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.559
<v Speaker 1>the SEC and it's just better than everybody else. Had

888
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Texas lost yesterday, it would have been only Georgia left.

889
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And even if Georgia stuck around or hung around and

890
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>won the national championship, the rest of the SEC would

891
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.519
<v Speaker 1>have to realize that they need a reality check. They

892
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:23.599
<v Speaker 1>need to, I mean, somebody needs to have an intervention

893
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:25.159
<v Speaker 1>with them to let them know, like, no, you're in

894
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 1>a world that's not reality. You're not You're clearly a

895
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>really good league, top to bottom, the best league in

896
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:31.920
<v Speaker 1>the country. But this world that you are just so

897
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:35.320
<v Speaker 1>much more superior than everybody else is not real. And

898
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 1>again it still is the case because Texas needed the

899
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 1>gift from the officials yesterday for that to happen. And

900
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:42.159
<v Speaker 1>you know what doesn't make you look great in the SEC.

901
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>That team just got to your league and they're and

902
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, Texas being Texas is clearly a you know,

903
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>they're a big brand, but like, let's be real, Texas

904
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>was really really Texas didn't win the Big twelve very

905
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>many times at all in their last twenty years there.

906
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:57.599
<v Speaker 1>They come in in the SEC in the first year,

907
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.519
<v Speaker 1>they get to the championship game, and now they're one

908
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of the only teams left stand ins. So again, people

909
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.039
<v Speaker 1>hear people have selective hearing. In no way am I

910
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:08.719
<v Speaker 1>saying that the SEC is a trash league and that

911
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>it's not any good and that it's you know, it's

912
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 1>it should be G five. No, I'm just stating that

913
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the arrogance and the entitlement that comes with that with

914
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:23.159
<v Speaker 1>that league is just so non deserving. For the most part,

915
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:26.199
<v Speaker 1>both things can be true. It can be the best league,

916
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>but it can also be insane that they have this

917
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:32.079
<v Speaker 1>perception of themselves that's just there's nothing to back it

918
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>up off other than just their own imagination. And again

919
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>emphasizing it's just how elite they think they are compared

920
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:41.199
<v Speaker 1>to everybody else. It's not to say that it's not

921
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:46.039
<v Speaker 1>a great league. And again, I don't know Oregon doing

922
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:47.519
<v Speaker 1>as well as they did in the Pac twelve or

923
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 1>in the Big Ten in their first season, and then Texas, Yeah,

924
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that makes those leagues even better. But like maybe it

925
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:56.559
<v Speaker 1>just means that the arrogance that you've been yapping about

926
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.320
<v Speaker 1>for decades now, when teams come come in in their

927
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>first year and they have no problem adjusting, probably means

928
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>you you weren't as dominant as you thought you were.

929
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.800
<v Speaker 1>But anyways, that was a situation with Missouri years ago.

930
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, came in like yeah, two years in a row,

931
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.519
<v Speaker 2>found themselves in the championship game with no problem.

932
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Yea, they won that. They won the East twice and

933
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:21.639
<v Speaker 1>that was you know, Tommy was on their side, Florida

934
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>was down, Georgia was not what they are now under

935
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Kirby Smart, but still like those kind of things happening,

936
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:29.599
<v Speaker 1>it should just be an eye opener that yeah, like

937
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.519
<v Speaker 1>the thought of other good teams that play in other

938
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 1>power for leagues coming to your league and being competitive

939
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:39.599
<v Speaker 1>or maybe being really really good, Like that's realistic. I

940
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:43.519
<v Speaker 1>mean that's not people like like it's crazy. Anyways, you're

941
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.280
<v Speaker 1>crazy if you don't stick around for these next two hours.

942
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:46.559
<v Speaker 1>We've got a lot more to get into. We'll talk

943
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 1>some more. Louisville Hoops also want to talk about the

944
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>NFL MVP conversation, which, of course is I think interesting

945
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.280
<v Speaker 1>this time of year, because this year, I should say,

946
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.320
<v Speaker 1>because I think there are a handful of legitimate candidates.

947
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:03.159
<v Speaker 1>But anybody claiming that the only reason Lamar Jackson may

948
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:05.199
<v Speaker 1>not win it is because he's already won it twice

949
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and they want to give it to somebody else like that,

950
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you're wrong. Like, I don't know if Lamar's gonna win it.

951
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 1>I think other candidates are deserving as well. But if

952
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you're just gonna base it off of who's most valuable

953
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>to their team and base it off of numbers and performance,

954
00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:21.079
<v Speaker 1>it's Lamar. But I don't think he'll win it this year,

955
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:24.159
<v Speaker 1>because again, I just think that he's set the standards

956
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:27.079
<v Speaker 1>so high that like, yeah, they know he's really good,

957
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:29.519
<v Speaker 1>they know he's having a phenomenal season, but they're just

958
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>going they're just gonna want to give it to somebody else,

959
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.199
<v Speaker 1>I think. All right, quick break two hours left right

960
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<v Speaker 1>here on Sports Talk seven ninety
