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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Braverera and Jaken Salez on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball
Speaker 2: here on Fox fourteen fifty. I bet you didn't think
Speaker 2: that we'd be on today. I didn't. Thank you Ryan
Speaker 2: for showing up. Thank you Dave Silver being my co host.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen you in a while. Good to be here,
Speaker 2: Good to be on the air. Good to be on
Speaker 2: the air for fifteen minutes. Thanks everybody for being here,
Speaker 2: for being patient, sticking with us here. Thank you again.
Speaker 1: Ryan.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna have our three fifteen guests. We had
Speaker 2: Dennis Dodds scheduled. He had to chase down some things
Speaker 2: going on with the with the Big twelve, not Big twelve,
Speaker 2: PAC twelve twelve PAC twelve and probably Mountain West Schools
Speaker 2: has got him kind of busy. So we'll do that
Speaker 2: for another day. I was looking forward to seeing that.
Speaker 2: What was the last time we had you on. It's
Speaker 2: been made a couple of months, a couple of months.
Speaker 2: Things that kind of shake you shaking down a little
Speaker 2: bit more. You're you're probably not surprised about what's going
Speaker 2: on now because pet Domino falls, the next one falls,
Speaker 2: this is probably one of the other ones to fall.
Speaker 3: Yep, you're talking in realignment, realignment, right, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: as a proud SDSU alum, it's kind of interesting to
Speaker 3: see my ice techs move.
Speaker 2: Into the PAC twelve.
Speaker 3: But I wish it would have happened a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago when it should have happened. It should have
Speaker 3: happened rightly perfect. But yeah, I mean, I know that
Speaker 3: you guys are cover the cover college football, especially this
Speaker 3: time of year. You're used to covering college football games
Speaker 3: and not so much the off the field short news.
Speaker 2: It's been crazy. It gives us something to talk about, though,
Speaker 2: to write about. Well that's for the dentist odds of
Speaker 2: the world and the Wilders and all that stuff. Crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: But I think it's obvious. It's obvious who should be
Speaker 2: in and who should be not in. And we already
Speaker 2: heard from the East Coast teams right right, They're not
Speaker 2: going to pull a Stamford or cow and go to
Speaker 2: the to the East Coast, which makes no sense.
Speaker 3: It doesn't and we saw that last week already. Both
Speaker 3: both teams are on the East coast, Stanford won.
Speaker 2: Cal did not. But they you know, this is going
Speaker 2: to be the way of the world for these schools, right,
Speaker 2: and what price money? Right, because you want to save,
Speaker 2: not save money, but you're gonna try to get as
Speaker 2: much money as you can. Yeah, and that's why they're there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course, And that's why Arizona did what it did
Speaker 2: and every other school. Yeah. Crazy times. I mean, you've
Speaker 2: been here a long time in mid eighties. I got
Speaker 2: here a little later than that. Never in my sorry mind,
Speaker 2: would I have thought this had happened. And then when
Speaker 2: it start to happen, you're thinking, I'm glad I'm out
Speaker 2: of this business.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you'd have some good interesting road trips for sure. Yeah, teams,
Speaker 3: I mean it's gonna be it's gonna be crazy for basketball,
Speaker 3: and we'll see some of the other sports. But as
Speaker 3: far as media goes, you know, you were, you know,
Speaker 3: in the heart of all those you know, great moments
Speaker 3: for the Pac twelve and the Pac ten and now
Speaker 3: now what.
Speaker 2: The Big twelve. No, if that was the case, I'm glad.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm out of it. But for that reason,
Speaker 2: I wish I were in it. Because it's going to
Speaker 2: be crazy on the road places that we really didn't
Speaker 2: get to or I hadn't been to a couple of them.
Speaker 2: And you were really in a rhythm too.
Speaker 3: I mean, you knew you were going to basically the
Speaker 3: same two places for a weekend, or that those teams
Speaker 3: are coming in for the weekend. So there was that,
Speaker 3: and I think it's going to be different from what
Speaker 3: I'm hearing in the twelve. It's going to be just
Speaker 3: bouncing around a little bit more, and games aren't going
Speaker 3: to be on your typical Thursday Saturday as we.
Speaker 2: Were used to. Right right, So you were you were
Speaker 2: in the TV business for twenty some thirty thirty some
Speaker 2: thirty some you old man, you and you don't look
Speaker 2: it good for you. And then you were in the
Speaker 2: development correct from twelve. So that's see, that's longer than
Speaker 2: I thought. How would you have benefited from this transfer
Speaker 2: or this change. Well, I'm talking about development. Obviously, it's
Speaker 2: going to be interesting. I know that.
Speaker 3: You know, I've kind of kept in touch with some
Speaker 3: of my friends in the development area on campus, and
Speaker 3: it's going to be different going to especially in athletics.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, you're sending your development people into
Speaker 3: the Kansas City or to you know, Oklahoma, or to Florida,
Speaker 3: places that they've never been.
Speaker 2: The U of A. We know, the U of A
Speaker 2: knows where the alumni are. I was just going to
Speaker 2: go there.
Speaker 3: There's no surprises, and so as you can imagine, most
Speaker 3: of the Arizona grads are in the West, so it's
Speaker 3: gonna be hard to maybe just get people. You're gonna
Speaker 3: get some of the people who are going to be excited. Hey,
Speaker 3: I live in you know, wherever I go in Oklahoma City,
Speaker 3: I never get to see the Wildcats. Now we'll see
Speaker 3: them maybe a couple times a year.
Speaker 2: Right right. One of the fallacies, and I said this
Speaker 2: a few times before that Arizona travels, well, yeah, they
Speaker 2: don't travel well. They have alums in those areas like
Speaker 2: the places you're top of San Francisco, Seattle, La. A issue,
Speaker 2: some of those places where in the Midwest they party
Speaker 2: have very little.
Speaker 3: No, it's going to be interesting to see how that
Speaker 3: comes together. There were there's some alumni clubs in some
Speaker 3: of these cities that you know that's going to maybe
Speaker 3: generate some people, but not many, not like San Francisco
Speaker 3: or Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Of the things. One of the things I think that
Speaker 2: the fans are realizing or seeing with their eyes. And
Speaker 2: it's only been one time. One weekend. They went to
Speaker 2: Kansas State, right, and it was a rabid fan base,
Speaker 2: a lot of people, and that was day one of football, right,
Speaker 2: they saw probably the BYU game with Kansas State there,
Speaker 2: they're thinking a lot of people. And now they're gonna
Speaker 2: go to Utah. Guess what, They're gonna see a lot
Speaker 2: of people. And that's just gonna be the way of
Speaker 2: the world. In the Big Twelve. It is Arizona. I
Speaker 2: don't know, and I don't people rag me for ragging
Speaker 2: the fans. I thought they've done a pretty good job
Speaker 2: so far. They're gonna have to equal that with a
Speaker 2: lot of fans. It's it's gonna be different, let's put
Speaker 2: it that way. They've never been so you know, sort
Speaker 2: of required to sell out.
Speaker 3: But you look around the Big Twelve and almost every
Speaker 3: one of those stadiums is near capacity all the time,
Speaker 3: doesn't matter who they're playing. It could be the first
Speaker 3: or second game of the season where it's a non
Speaker 3: conference nobody and they're still drawing sure huge crowds.
Speaker 2: So they saw that at Kansas State.
Speaker 3: Know what Utah is like, and you know they're going
Speaker 3: to some interesting locations. If they don't, they're not quite
Speaker 3: sure what to expect.
Speaker 2: I'm sure sure if they show well this weekend, it'll
Speaker 2: help for two weeks, but they just have to be
Speaker 2: much better. Did you go to the game? Did not
Speaker 2: go to the game, but did you see the game?
Speaker 2: I saw the game. What were your biggest concerns of
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 3: My biggest concern was was the defense. I know the
Speaker 3: offense has gotten a lot of pushback just because things
Speaker 3: just didn't go too well there, but just we were
Speaker 3: having Arizona was having such a hard time stopping them,
Speaker 3: which is the same thing that happened in the first
Speaker 3: game of the year.
Speaker 2: I was a little bit surprised.
Speaker 3: I don't know where the where the I'm not a
Speaker 3: defensive coach and I can't really break it down.
Speaker 2: But as far as just like I expected more, yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess I did two on both sides. But the
Speaker 2: thing that concerned me to this for two days now
Speaker 2: three days, is the they looked indifferent after they got
Speaker 2: down and the interception happened, when when you know they
Speaker 2: had a chance to tie it. I think it was
Speaker 2: they just played like they were just there. There was
Speaker 2: no sense of urgency. They were like, when's the bus leave,
Speaker 2: when's the plane leave, Let's get the hell out of dodge.
Speaker 2: Yea almost literally got a dodge. And that was concerning.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they were just kind of beaten
Speaker 2: already emotionally or whatever, but it was not good to see.
Speaker 2: And we've covered games a number of times, right, you
Speaker 2: can count them on one hundred or two hundred platforms.
Speaker 2: That's not good one and two. We've seen that happen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they were.
Speaker 3: I was in a situation watching the game too, at
Speaker 3: a restaurant here in town, and it was great the
Speaker 3: first you know, oh, sure, you get into the game
Speaker 3: and everybody's excited and all that, and then literally like
Speaker 3: within ten minutes, it was quiet, right, and there was
Speaker 3: nothing to cheer about, and people were, you know, just
Speaker 3: kind of walking away from the screens and going home.
Speaker 2: And I know I was going to say that did
Speaker 2: they stay? They probably didn't. Didn't. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: was out of there by the fourth quarter. Was there
Speaker 2: a lot of people there to watch the game specifically?
Speaker 2: For sure? Yeah? And by halftime you're thinking Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what happened here? Yeah, by definitely the fourth quarter, you're
Speaker 2: thinking just paid my bill and get the hell out
Speaker 2: of it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I still think though, I think because we went through
Speaker 3: last year, I think there's still some hope.
Speaker 2: I mean we've only seen three games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know there's you know, I don't know
Speaker 3: what were last year and after three.
Speaker 2: Games, yeah, it was like two and one or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was two and two for sure after miss Mississippi State.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's there's certainly time to get things going,
Speaker 3: and the anticipation is still there I think, and no
Speaker 3: one's giving up at this point.
Speaker 2: When you when you covered, uh, you watch some of
Speaker 2: the media right now. You really don't have to, but
Speaker 2: you follow some of it, right Uh. You know, you
Speaker 2: have the raw rock guys in the media, you have
Speaker 2: the guys who are pragmatic you and I think that's
Speaker 2: partly pretty much it. Uh in your in your profession
Speaker 2: when you were in the media, did you you you
Speaker 2: you said it straightforward, it was you just said what happened?
Speaker 2: Were there are times when you said this needs to
Speaker 2: get fixed?
Speaker 3: You were you were a critical eye, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: and I you pay down the road, down the middle.
Speaker 2: I really did, and that was just my style.
Speaker 3: I know that there are other people doing sports that
Speaker 3: would have they'd kind of do their normal thing and
Speaker 3: then they kind of go to the side and now
Speaker 3: here's my commentary. Here's really how I yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: There's a guy in Dallas named Dale Hanson. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: got amazing at that stuff. He would you know, he'd
Speaker 3: give your Cowboys highlights and this and that, and then
Speaker 3: the last couple of minutes of his sportscast would be
Speaker 3: his commentary, which is kind of like a newspaper.
Speaker 2: You have kind of true sections of a newspaper. Let
Speaker 2: me ask you. Would that work here?
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's ever really done it. I can't,
Speaker 3: but it would work here. I don't know, because you know,
Speaker 3: the town small, small town. But it works in Dallas
Speaker 3: because you have those fans who want to hear rip
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones apart, you know, rip Dak Prescott. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: know here, it's a friendly environment. It's in college.
Speaker 2: It's pretty friendly pretty much everywhere except for maybe La
Speaker 2: or Yeah. I mean I was.
Speaker 3: I was pretty well scripted. I pretty much knew what
Speaker 3: I was going to say. But every once in a while,
Speaker 3: you just kind of, you know, go off script and
Speaker 3: maybe even like one or two sentence might be considered critical.
Speaker 2: I wasn't really planning to say did you Did you
Speaker 2: ever hear about it? Not really, not really.
Speaker 3: I mean, one time, I'll tell you one little anecdote,
Speaker 3: and these are two friends of mine became pretty good friends.
Speaker 2: Was the lacrosse coach.
Speaker 3: Here's a guy named Mickey Miles Felton and they were
Speaker 3: a club sports still are And then they the ice
Speaker 3: Cats that was also a club sports. And I went
Speaker 3: on the air and I said something about the ice
Speaker 3: Cats were the most successful club sports team at the
Speaker 3: u of A. You got a call as soon as
Speaker 3: I got off set. I mean, I hadn't even got
Speaker 3: back to the desk and there's Mickey Colin. What do
Speaker 3: I mean, Wait a second, we're really successful? To I,
Speaker 3: so are you guys drawing like four thousand, five thousand
Speaker 3: fans a game? That was really kind of what I
Speaker 3: was basing the statement on it. But you know, those
Speaker 3: were very few and far between, but nothing A no
Speaker 3: one calling you one, Dave. Well, no, there's other stories
Speaker 3: I probably can't talk about.
Speaker 2: Really. Oh wow, I wanted to hear those. That was
Speaker 2: a football or basketball. It was basketball, of course it
Speaker 2: was because not called yeah but loot. You know, but
Speaker 2: you did a show for a time or two. I didn't,
Speaker 2: you know, I never did. No, we did the football
Speaker 2: shows back in the day. But I want to hear
Speaker 2: that story. Was it was it a critical one or
Speaker 2: is it a you got something wrong? Dave?
Speaker 3: Or on the radio we would talk about that. Well, No,
Speaker 3: it wasn't bad. It wasn't bad. It was it was
Speaker 3: it was unusual and that he really did call, you know,
Speaker 3: he was upset about something we had done.
Speaker 2: No, he's done that in the past.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was it was kind of sad in
Speaker 3: a way, not maybe not sad, but just unusual to
Speaker 3: even have that happen, you know, not too many coaches
Speaker 3: would would pick up the phone and try to find
Speaker 3: my number.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, I have something to talk about it. So
Speaker 2: was it a it was a factual air?
Speaker 3: It was it was more about a player who had transferred, okay,
Speaker 3: And we were we were commenting on that, and we'd
Speaker 3: found out who it was and gone on the air
Speaker 3: with that. And it didn't come out of like the
Speaker 3: official u of a release, right.
Speaker 2: There were sticklers about that but he called in your
Speaker 2: in your world, in my world. We didn't need that. No,
Speaker 2: we didn't need that. We knew it.
Speaker 3: We went with it exactly and confirm it. We're going
Speaker 3: with it. And they are much more controlling now than
Speaker 3: they were. Sure this is you know, probably in the
Speaker 3: early two thousands or late nineties, where you really had
Speaker 3: to you know, you kind of would go with it
Speaker 3: and we would say, wait a second. You know this
Speaker 3: is our job, right, you know we're reporters, right, And
Speaker 3: so yeah, he kind of came down hard on us
Speaker 3: there and that was like the only time, but it
Speaker 3: wasn't any and he probably forgot about it.
Speaker 2: Sure it was party not incorrect, right, it was, it
Speaker 2: was true. Yeah. So yeah, No, he did that to
Speaker 2: me a couple of times. And everyone knows my relationship
Speaker 2: with him. Uh. He had said in an interview press covers.
Speaker 2: I think I had it on tape and he came
Speaker 2: up to me and I wrote about it and it
Speaker 2: didn't come out like he wanted it to, I guess,
Speaker 2: and I said, lout you said it, and I brought
Speaker 2: out the tape. Is well, you know, Steve, that's not
Speaker 2: what I meant. Luke, that's what you said it was.
Speaker 3: It was good because I have you really had a
Speaker 3: good relationship with him, and I did too, just because
Speaker 3: we've been here so long, so that maybe kind of
Speaker 3: caught me off guard that he went so far instill.
Speaker 2: Actually pick up the phone and you know in that voice,
Speaker 2: you know right away, Yeah, on a weekend morning like that, Well,
Speaker 2: I know who you are. You don't need to tell me.
Speaker 2: Remember I was, I was home, Like what he's calling
Speaker 2: my house? Right? Right right? You probably call even back
Speaker 2: then in the little box. Yeah, yeah, if it wasn't him,
Speaker 2: it was Bobby. Bobby not happy with happy or one
Speaker 2: of his kids would call that kind of thing. Those
Speaker 2: actually those were the good old days to me. They were, yeah,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of winning, a lot of winning
Speaker 2: and uh a few, you know, a few disappointments, although
Speaker 2: there were, and I'm sure it helped your career and
Speaker 2: just to make it more enjoyable. It did.
Speaker 3: I mean, there were you know, so many, so many
Speaker 3: great players just from that program alone, let alone everybody else.
Speaker 3: But every time I go into McHale, it's like like ghosts,
Speaker 3: you know, they're.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my gosh, I was standing here.
Speaker 3: I remember interviewing Sean Elliott right here, or Chase Budinger
Speaker 3: when he's in the Olympics. I'm watching him and I'm going, man,
Speaker 3: we were just talking to him. It seemed like yesterday.
Speaker 2: Damn Chase. I try to ask him every week, can
Speaker 2: you come to the show. He doesn't respond to get
Speaker 2: him on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he doesn't answer.
Speaker 2: It doesn't answer my request. And him and I were
Speaker 2: pretty good, pretty close because Jordan Hill was on there.
Speaker 2: Why di whis But you know, sometimes when you bake
Speaker 2: the Olympics, she don't have time.
Speaker 3: That was a good We had a great moment with him.
Speaker 2: With Chase.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was in the Pac twelve tournament here maybe
Speaker 3: Pack ten when they were at Staples and he was
Speaker 3: going to become the all time leading scorer in high school.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah for California before he came here. So that
Speaker 2: game was in.
Speaker 3: La Costa can you know whatever high school he went
Speaker 3: to down there, and so we had the day before
Speaker 3: the Pac twelve started, we drove down there and a
Speaker 3: whole story on him breaking the record and hanging out
Speaker 3: with the fans. I mean, he seriously. They put up
Speaker 3: a table at center court after the game for him
Speaker 3: to sign autographs.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was. He was that type of a
Speaker 2: star for that. Yeah, and it was good at the time.
Speaker 2: And you remember it was at the near the end
Speaker 2: of Loot's time. He he would say that the Chases
Speaker 2: was the best recruit he'd ever signed at that time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And he also said it probably because he needed the
Speaker 2: people to kind of rally behind the team again because
Speaker 2: he was near the it was after the Chicago trip
Speaker 2: and you know what I'm saying, it was a period
Speaker 2: of time, period of time where you knew that the
Speaker 2: end was happening, so he needed to kind of rally
Speaker 2: the people. And no, and Chase became a pretty good player.
Speaker 2: He was you know, he was mixed with Marcus Williams
Speaker 2: and which was not good, but it was it was
Speaker 2: what it was. Yeah, I mean, that was just amazing.
Speaker 2: This summer he watched that. I couldn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, we always knew he liked volleyball. He was
Speaker 3: pretty good. And you know, you don't see too much
Speaker 3: beach volleyball coverage or highlights, but there is one of
Speaker 3: the top of the world right right.
Speaker 2: Well, when he came in, he was the number one
Speaker 2: high school player in the country. Yep. Back whenever that
Speaker 2: two thousand and five, whatever it was, and then he
Speaker 2: just chose to do basketball. Were you at the Red
Speaker 2: Blue game? His his red blue game? Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: you know what. They came out from under the tunnel.
Speaker 2: He came into the beach, beach towel, and then the
Speaker 2: volleyball kind of like, you know, I'm also good at
Speaker 2: this guy. Hey, we gotta go. It was a quick
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Speaker 2: You need more secrets? You want to tell me? No
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Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: I led a pretty boring, boring life here for most
Speaker 3: of my time.
Speaker 2: Well, that's kind of the funny thing. I thought. The
Speaker 2: TV world has changed, newspapers have definitely changed that. I
Speaker 2: haven't been a part of it in fifteen years. But
Speaker 2: when you first started, how much time did you have
Speaker 2: to do a segment? It ranged between three to five minutes.
Speaker 2: Five minutes is an eternity nowadays, I know, I mean
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: There were days I would have to fight for time
Speaker 3: and literally like you know, beg like.
Speaker 2: Hey, we've got a big day.
Speaker 3: We've got, you know, more than just the UFA basketball game,
Speaker 3: which is going to take up most of our coverage anyway,
Speaker 3: or football. So if there was a busy day, the
Speaker 3: people understood, and most of the time they understood I
Speaker 3: wasn't going to waste it, right, So but yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean some nights I'd give it the time back. I'd say, listen,
Speaker 3: it's really slow, let's do this in two and a
Speaker 3: half minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And well two and a half and that's kind
Speaker 2: of standard now or not even less than that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I watch local news all over the place,
Speaker 3: and that's basically what's happened. In fact, you know, as
Speaker 3: you know here in Tucson's some newscast doesn't have don't
Speaker 3: have you don't even have sports anymore, do they They don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well which station they have, all of them, they
Speaker 2: all have it, but it's very brief. They only have
Speaker 2: one person, that's true, one person. How do you do that?
Speaker 2: You know, seven days a week? I don't know. But
Speaker 2: you have news anchors doing sports? Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: Well, you know my buddy Pat Paris, She's done a
Speaker 3: lot of sports in his careers, right right, so comfortable
Speaker 3: watching him.
Speaker 2: Mooney did the same thing in Channel four thirteen. Alamita
Speaker 2: does everything, so you know, and sure other people do
Speaker 2: it there with the new kids coming in. So no,
Speaker 2: the world in your world, the former world, this is crazy.
Speaker 2: It changed.
Speaker 3: I mean it was changing kind of even as I
Speaker 3: was wrapping things up. So you had to kind of
Speaker 3: just kind of look at your day and try to
Speaker 3: figure out how you're gonna squeeze it all in or
Speaker 3: again ask for more time. We also, you know, we're
Speaker 3: lucky we're able to do some Friday night things that
Speaker 3: we extended the newscast maybe fifteen minutes, so.
Speaker 2: We could do high school high school spies and they
Speaker 2: had to sell that, right obviously if you're paying for timing,
Speaker 2: and that time that was.
Speaker 3: And that was always interesting, Like we would try to
Speaker 3: do preseason specials for both football and basketball. We try
Speaker 3: to do something before the tournaments if they were going
Speaker 3: to a bowl game or for the you know, the
Speaker 3: NCAA's and those.
Speaker 2: Were hard, I mean there were half hour shows. They're
Speaker 2: much different than doing but the thing is you were
Speaker 2: able to tell your stories. I mean, that was your
Speaker 2: opportunity to tell your stories, right, right, And that's what
Speaker 2: we're all here for.
Speaker 3: And it's much like the newspaper will they'll have an
Speaker 3: expanded section, you know for pre season or the bowl
Speaker 3: games and stuff.
Speaker 2: Before we move on, we're going to have mister Todd
Speaker 2: Walsh on in the second hour, a whole friend of yours,
Speaker 2: probably friend of mine, I know Todd.
Speaker 3: Todd was there back in the Loudelsen early years as
Speaker 3: a manager and of course has had a great career
Speaker 3: really all over Phoenix covering all the professional sports up
Speaker 3: there and continues to do really well.
Speaker 2: So it'll be fun to talk to them. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna go delve into that. He was He did
Speaker 2: a nice piece on al McCoy. I think yesterday or today,
Speaker 2: did you see that on Twitter? I did not, but
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: I saw something else on Twitter that was really good
Speaker 3: that the Sun's put out.
Speaker 2: Okay, that was really good. So we'll talk to him
Speaker 2: about that. He's with Uh, he's with MLB right now.
Speaker 2: On you know, we we posted that he was with ballets,
Speaker 2: but that's old, old news on the on the fire.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll talk to him. I want to get
Speaker 2: Luke's ninetieth birthday was a couple of days ago, and
Speaker 2: we'll talk to him about some some stories. He's got
Speaker 2: some great stories obviously for the camp and then hit
Speaker 2: for the book that I did. He was he was
Speaker 2: a fun chapter because he really loved him, because Lute
Speaker 2: helped him be somebody that makes any sense? When did
Speaker 2: he leave? Was his he's here for the eighty eight
Speaker 2: I think that was about it. Eighty eight or eighty nine. Uh,
Speaker 2: and kind of got lucky, you know, kind of didn't
Speaker 2: get lucky one time. I think he was with the
Speaker 2: Cardinals and got in trouble. Let go and then you know,
Speaker 2: when you're good, people trust too much.
Speaker 3: You're doing sports talk in Tucson and it's t one
Speaker 3: of the stations.
Speaker 2: I think for a while I remember him doing it
Speaker 2: where Trident is now. I don't know what it was
Speaker 2: before there was a big a out front. Was the
Speaker 2: rest that was called? Okay, okay, that's what it was. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm trying to find some information. I have
Speaker 2: to get to what else? So he'll be a year
Speaker 2: We have breaking news from Ryan and uh move on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a lot going on with uh
Speaker 3: what we touched on with college football and stuff. But
Speaker 3: like the Diamondbacks are kind of wrapping up the regular
Speaker 3: season here in the next couple a couple of days
Speaker 3: and kind of stumbled a little bit. We can talk
Speaker 3: to Todd about that too, since he's all over the
Speaker 3: d Backs. But they've kind of I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: been five hundred dish for the last like ten games,
Speaker 3: I think, so they need to kind of finish up
Speaker 3: a little bit stronger to get to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Right it's a crazy are your braves out? No, they're
Speaker 2: they're fighting for that last the last spot, but with
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks. So right now it's the Diamondbacks, the Mets,
Speaker 2: and the Braves that are fighting for last two spots
Speaker 2: because to who's San Diego's in.
Speaker 6: San Diego three game lead on the d Backs, actually
Speaker 6: the Mets, because the d Backs lost last night and
Speaker 6: New York jumped ahead of them, right, So it's gonna
Speaker 6: be a crazy week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good fun It's a fun time here
Speaker 3: because we got like hockey's even starting pre season, so
Speaker 3: basketball is just around the corner. With with training camps,
Speaker 3: I'm assuming they're going to be opening here relatively soon, right,
Speaker 3: don't they usually go in late September early October?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For basketball? Yeah, yeah, that's a camp's going to
Speaker 2: start here producing. I realized not too long because I
Speaker 2: saw Francisco Romero do a podcast with Joseph Blair. Joseph
Speaker 2: Blair had been looking for a job. I guess he
Speaker 2: landed one, you know where he's at. No, he did,
Speaker 2: so he did. He was with the Wizards for a while,
Speaker 2: for a little long while, a minute actually, and then
Speaker 2: now he's back to his hometown in Houston. He's going
Speaker 2: to be the coach of the the G League and
Speaker 2: he took him to a title there. I was at
Speaker 2: the other station, so about four years ago, five years ago,
Speaker 2: and so he's back at his hometown. Uh, going to
Speaker 2: do that, I guess be in the Houston organization, but
Speaker 2: head coach of that team.
Speaker 3: Good for him, the Vipers, I think that. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was it like real grand exactly exactly. It's cool that
Speaker 3: he's that he's found a spot a right, let me
Speaker 3: let me ask you, and I want you to be honest.
Speaker 3: I want you to be honest, not that you have
Speaker 3: been dinilized.
Speaker 2: You covered him, right, Oh yeah, So what were your
Speaker 2: impressions of the JB that we covered and how he
Speaker 2: is now? Yes, totally different, totally totally different. He was, Uh,
Speaker 2: he was a bit kind of a tough deed, tough summery,
Speaker 2: certain kind of smart assy. Yeah, yeah, and then he
Speaker 2: you know, he really grew up.
Speaker 3: I think after he came back and started getting involved
Speaker 3: in the community, doing a lot of charity work camp
Speaker 3: and his mom was I'm sure a huge influence. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was always Later he just became great to talk. Sure,
Speaker 3: I had moments again. Yeah, I played pickup games with
Speaker 3: Joseph Blair and Miles Simon and.
Speaker 2: Stuff at the j c C. Oh.
Speaker 3: Okay, it would they'd be back in town oh after
Speaker 3: that in their summer times. Yeah, and next thing, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, wait, isn't that Miles Simon playing basketball?
Speaker 3: And there's Joseph and Corey Williams and some of those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so they would passing the ball every once in a while.
Speaker 3: So your other team were playing against them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now Corey has this summer league team, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's gone on what ten years? Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's twenty something. I mean twenty something because I've been
Speaker 2: now fifteen about twenty something. We talked about it, and
Speaker 2: but it's totally changed too because he doesn't have the
Speaker 2: older kids. It's the younger kids. But back in the day,
Speaker 2: if you went to the older kids, older guys, kids
Speaker 2: or kids. Yeah, those are fun games. You know. They
Speaker 2: were amazing when when the UFA players would come and play,
Speaker 2: Richard Jefferson would go against Jon Terry, Chris Rogers, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and those guys and Richard would just bury him. I
Speaker 2: was shocked that Loos let that happen. I mean there
Speaker 2: had to be some right, well, they got I can
Speaker 2: hear now, Cory, if they get hurt, right, I think
Speaker 2: that would never in a million years happen. Now, No, no,
Speaker 2: because there's too many, too many liabilities and too many
Speaker 2: bad things can happen.
Speaker 3: But those were if you ever had a chance to
Speaker 3: see those games, especially they were usually at the JCC
Speaker 3: in those early years, they were really intense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to make this announcement. Will be at
Speaker 2: the casino, so sometime soon hopefully maybe at the latest
Speaker 2: next week, but maybe at the earliest this Thursday. We're
Speaker 2: looking forward to it that they have a lot of
Speaker 2: things going on there. We're excited. We'll be in the
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Speaker 2: We'll let you guys know when we're there on Thursdays
Speaker 2: as we start, and you know, maybe we'll see you
Speaker 2: and buy you a beer or something. You're gonna be
Speaker 2: in the sports sports and book, sportsbook, You're gonna find
Speaker 2: a place for there. It's a nice there. Yeah, it's nice. Nice,
Speaker 2: it's very nice. It's spacious, a lot of places to sit,
Speaker 2: TVs everywhere. And I'm not just saying because they're gonna
Speaker 2: sponsor us, it's nice. Yeah, it's nice. It's obviously the
Speaker 2: best one in town.
Speaker 3: We tried to go out there, I think maybe even
Speaker 3: the first or second weekended open we couldn't even get in.
Speaker 2: He had to have a reservation, right, So.
Speaker 3: I think it's a maybe not going to be that
Speaker 3: bad on a Thursday night, but for an NFL game,
Speaker 3: you'll get a crowd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, it'll be fun. It'll be fun. So
Speaker 2: that's cool. So we're talking about the good old days.
Speaker 2: What would your best story be at the top of
Speaker 2: your head, maybe in the nineties outside of outside of
Speaker 2: the championship. Did you go to the Yeah? Yeah, did
Speaker 2: you go to the ninety four? And so you were
Speaker 2: you're the boss, I could, I could yeah, yeah sometimes
Speaker 2: you know you guys.
Speaker 3: Say I would bring along some of my underlings. Yes, yes, no,
Speaker 3: I was there. So we were there for two thousand
Speaker 3: and I was there for all the So if they
Speaker 3: would finally go to another one, maybe I'll get to
Speaker 3: go as a fan, which would be fun.
Speaker 2: Are you a fan? Are you fan?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you? You didn't lose it? No, what do
Speaker 2: you mean lose it? I'm not a fan anymore. I
Speaker 2: think that's been well documented on the show because I
Speaker 2: do this for a living every day. Talk about you're
Speaker 2: still doing this. It's not doing this? Yeah, making believe
Speaker 2: you got out of it a long time ago, so
Speaker 2: you got refreshed with your But you know what I'm
Speaker 2: saying this is this is like eating the same hamburger
Speaker 2: for forty years. Yeah, and you're thinking, God, I wish
Speaker 2: you didn't have to do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, funny, we talked talked a little bit
Speaker 3: about my fundraising experience, and you're out and about talking
Speaker 3: with people and they want to talk about this car bill,
Speaker 3: and it was good to have that in my back pocket.
Speaker 3: I could pull out, Hey, you know, I was there
Speaker 3: in ninety seven. It was there when they wanted.
Speaker 2: Oh so was I. And then that's kind of get
Speaker 2: you in. Yeah, I mean that's I've had to kind
Speaker 2: of stay on top of things with that job. Sure,
Speaker 2: now that I don't have that job, I can kind
Speaker 2: of pick and chee. Yeah. No, and more power to you.
Speaker 2: Do you do you meet in your capacity of development
Speaker 2: and chasing that money? Did you meet with a lot
Speaker 2: of former people formers? Yeah? Surprisingly not. That wasn't true Wheelhouse.
Speaker 2: That was well it.
Speaker 3: Was, But my goals and my job was to work
Speaker 3: for the foundation at the beginning. You have a foundation,
Speaker 3: so there I probably have more of a chance because
Speaker 3: in those positions you're raising money for anything. Yes, And
Speaker 3: I could run into an athlete if I wanted to,
Speaker 3: or if I could get hold of them.
Speaker 2: And then later.
Speaker 3: I worked for the College of Social Behavioral Sciences, which
Speaker 3: is its own college, and we have, you know, thousands
Speaker 3: of alums and they're from all over the place. But
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think I was I got to go
Speaker 3: to a number of cool locations. I mean things like
Speaker 3: Pebble Beach meaning alum, oh yeah, I'm a member. Let's
Speaker 3: go meet a Pebble Beach Congressional Country Club in DC.
Speaker 2: But there was a lot of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: We got to go in a second. But I'm gonna
Speaker 2: pick your brain in terms of your doing your job,
Speaker 2: your old job, and the monies and the NIL. We
Speaker 2: haven't talked about that because it's a crazy you know,
Speaker 2: because you've seen it. Nil. It's one thing with athletes,
Speaker 2: then money for the university. There's all these pockets, all
Speaker 2: these pockets you've got to get into. But all these
Speaker 2: organizations that have that needed right, good luck to them.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're you're out, you're gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk a little about that. And thanks Ryan,