WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:03.759 Streaming live. I mean, iHeartRadio app. This is Eye on 2 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:07.519 the Ball with Steve Braverera and Jaken Salez on Fox 3 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:09.000 Sports fourteen fifty. 4 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.919 Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball 5 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:17.800 here on Fox fourteen fifty. I bet you didn't think 6 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:21.480 that we'd be on today. I didn't. Thank you Ryan 7 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:25.440 for showing up. Thank you Dave Silver being my co host. 8 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:28.079 I haven't seen you in a while. Good to be here, 9 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:29.719 Good to be on the air. Good to be on 10 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:32.840 the air for fifteen minutes. Thanks everybody for being here, 11 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:35.920 for being patient, sticking with us here. Thank you again. 12 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:36.240 Ryan. 13 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:39.520 We're not gonna have our three fifteen guests. We had 14 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:43.240 Dennis Dodds scheduled. He had to chase down some things 15 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:47.840 going on with the with the Big twelve, not Big twelve, 16 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:50.880 PAC twelve twelve PAC twelve and probably Mountain West Schools 17 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.200 has got him kind of busy. So we'll do that 18 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:55.759 for another day. I was looking forward to seeing that. 19 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:58.280 What was the last time we had you on. It's 20 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:00.640 been made a couple of months, a couple of months. 21 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.560 Things that kind of shake you shaking down a little 22 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:06.560 bit more. You're you're probably not surprised about what's going 23 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:09.719 on now because pet Domino falls, the next one falls, 24 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:11.719 this is probably one of the other ones to fall. 25 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.000 Yep, you're talking in realignment, realignment, right, Yeah, I mean, 26 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:19.359 as a proud SDSU alum, it's kind of interesting to 27 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:21.000 see my ice techs move. 28 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:21.719 Into the PAC twelve. 29 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:23.680 But I wish it would have happened a couple of 30 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:25.319 years ago when it should have happened. It should have 31 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:28.640 happened rightly perfect. But yeah, I mean, I know that 32 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:31.799 you guys are cover the cover college football, especially this 33 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:34.200 time of year. You're used to covering college football games 34 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:36.959 and not so much the off the field short news. 35 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:39.519 It's been crazy. It gives us something to talk about, though, 36 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:41.879 to write about. Well that's for the dentist odds of 37 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:44.439 the world and the Wilders and all that stuff. Crazy stuff. 38 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:46.840 But I think it's obvious. It's obvious who should be 39 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:48.959 in and who should be not in. And we already 40 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:51.200 heard from the East Coast teams right right, They're not 41 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:53.120 going to pull a Stamford or cow and go to 42 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:55.519 the to the East Coast, which makes no sense. 43 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:58.239 It doesn't and we saw that last week already. Both 44 00:01:58.239 --> 00:02:01.760 both teams are on the East coast, Stanford won. 45 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:04.799 Cal did not. But they you know, this is going 46 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:07.000 to be the way of the world for these schools, right, 47 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:09.680 and what price money? Right, because you want to save, 48 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:11.639 not save money, but you're gonna try to get as 49 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:13.840 much money as you can. Yeah, and that's why they're there. Yeah, 50 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:16.439 of course, And that's why Arizona did what it did 51 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:20.080 and every other school. Yeah. Crazy times. I mean, you've 52 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:22.520 been here a long time in mid eighties. I got 53 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:27.280 here a little later than that. Never in my sorry mind, 54 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:29.479 would I have thought this had happened. And then when 55 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:31.960 it start to happen, you're thinking, I'm glad I'm out 56 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:32.560 of this business. 57 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:36.479 Yeah, well, you'd have some good interesting road trips for sure. Yeah, teams, 58 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:39.120 I mean it's gonna be it's gonna be crazy for basketball, 59 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:40.919 and we'll see some of the other sports. But as 60 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:43.639 far as media goes, you know, you were, you know, 61 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:45.639 in the heart of all those you know, great moments 62 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:48.360 for the Pac twelve and the Pac ten and now 63 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:49.000 now what. 64 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:52.039 The Big twelve. No, if that was the case, I'm glad. 65 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.199 I'm glad I'm out of it. But for that reason, 66 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:56.879 I wish I were in it. Because it's going to 67 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.479 be crazy on the road places that we really didn't 68 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:02.599 get to or I hadn't been to a couple of them. 69 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:04.240 And you were really in a rhythm too. 70 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:05.840 I mean, you knew you were going to basically the 71 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:08.479 same two places for a weekend, or that those teams 72 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:10.280 are coming in for the weekend. So there was that, 73 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:11.960 and I think it's going to be different from what 74 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:14.479 I'm hearing in the twelve. It's going to be just 75 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:16.639 bouncing around a little bit more, and games aren't going 76 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:19.159 to be on your typical Thursday Saturday as we. 77 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:21.759 Were used to. Right right, So you were you were 78 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:25.680 in the TV business for twenty some thirty thirty some 79 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:28.639 thirty some you old man, you and you don't look 80 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:30.599 it good for you. And then you were in the 81 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:35.039 development correct from twelve. So that's see, that's longer than 82 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:39.479 I thought. How would you have benefited from this transfer 83 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:44.319 or this change. Well, I'm talking about development. Obviously, it's 84 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:46.039 going to be interesting. I know that. 85 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:47.599 You know, I've kind of kept in touch with some 86 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:50.039 of my friends in the development area on campus, and 87 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:54.199 it's going to be different going to especially in athletics. 88 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:57.879 All of a sudden, you're sending your development people into 89 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:01.240 the Kansas City or to you know, Oklahoma, or to Florida, 90 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:02.759 places that they've never been. 91 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:06.080 The U of A. We know, the U of A 92 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:08.400 knows where the alumni are. I was just going to 93 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:08.719 go there. 94 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:13.360 There's no surprises, and so as you can imagine, most 95 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:15.919 of the Arizona grads are in the West, so it's 96 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.319 gonna be hard to maybe just get people. You're gonna 97 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:21.800 get some of the people who are going to be excited. Hey, 98 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:24.959 I live in you know, wherever I go in Oklahoma City, 99 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:27.160 I never get to see the Wildcats. Now we'll see 100 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:28.439 them maybe a couple times a year. 101 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:30.279 Right right. One of the fallacies, and I said this 102 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:34.720 a few times before that Arizona travels, well, yeah, they 103 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:37.600 don't travel well. They have alums in those areas like 104 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:41.800 the places you're top of San Francisco, Seattle, La. A issue, 105 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.240 some of those places where in the Midwest they party 106 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:47.279 have very little. 107 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:48.959 No, it's going to be interesting to see how that 108 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:53.439 comes together. There were there's some alumni clubs in some 109 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:55.279 of these cities that you know that's going to maybe 110 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:58.839 generate some people, but not many, not like San Francisco 111 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:00.120 or Los Angeles. 112 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:01.759 Of the things. One of the things I think that 113 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:04.680 the fans are realizing or seeing with their eyes. And 114 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:06.480 it's only been one time. One weekend. They went to 115 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.319 Kansas State, right, and it was a rabid fan base, 116 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:12.519 a lot of people, and that was day one of football, right, 117 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:15.519 they saw probably the BYU game with Kansas State there, 118 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.879 they're thinking a lot of people. And now they're gonna 119 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:20.839 go to Utah. Guess what, They're gonna see a lot 120 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:22.639 of people. And that's just gonna be the way of 121 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:25.279 the world. In the Big Twelve. It is Arizona. I 122 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:28.439 don't know, and I don't people rag me for ragging 123 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:30.639 the fans. I thought they've done a pretty good job 124 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:33.560 so far. They're gonna have to equal that with a 125 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.360 lot of fans. It's it's gonna be different, let's put 126 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:40.920 it that way. They've never been so you know, sort 127 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.000 of required to sell out. 128 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:45.920 But you look around the Big Twelve and almost every 129 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:50.079 one of those stadiums is near capacity all the time, 130 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.360 doesn't matter who they're playing. It could be the first 131 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:54.399 or second game of the season where it's a non 132 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:57.600 conference nobody and they're still drawing sure huge crowds. 133 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:59.000 So they saw that at Kansas State. 134 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.519 Know what Utah is like, and you know they're going 135 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:05.160 to some interesting locations. If they don't, they're not quite 136 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:05.920 sure what to expect. 137 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:08.920 I'm sure sure if they show well this weekend, it'll 138 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.800 help for two weeks, but they just have to be 139 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.079 much better. Did you go to the game? Did not 140 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:15.920 go to the game, but did you see the game? 141 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.160 I saw the game. What were your biggest concerns of 142 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:19.600 the game. 143 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:22.360 My biggest concern was was the defense. I know the 144 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.680 offense has gotten a lot of pushback just because things 145 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:28.240 just didn't go too well there, but just we were 146 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:31.040 having Arizona was having such a hard time stopping them, 147 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:32.519 which is the same thing that happened in the first 148 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:33.079 game of the year. 149 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:34.600 I was a little bit surprised. 150 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:37.240 I don't know where the where the I'm not a 151 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:39.480 defensive coach and I can't really break it down. 152 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.759 But as far as just like I expected more, yeah, 153 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:45.040 I guess I did two on both sides. But the 154 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:47.480 thing that concerned me to this for two days now 155 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:53.439 three days, is the they looked indifferent after they got 156 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:56.279 down and the interception happened, when when you know they 157 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:57.680 had a chance to tie it. I think it was 158 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.360 they just played like they were just there. There was 159 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:03.480 no sense of urgency. They were like, when's the bus leave, 160 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:05.560 when's the plane leave, Let's get the hell out of dodge. 161 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:09.600 Yea almost literally got a dodge. And that was concerning. 162 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.079 I don't know if they were just kind of beaten 163 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:15.759 already emotionally or whatever, but it was not good to see. 164 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:19.040 And we've covered games a number of times, right, you 165 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:23.079 can count them on one hundred or two hundred platforms. 166 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.040 That's not good one and two. We've seen that happen. Yeah, 167 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:28.040 they were. 168 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:30.480 I was in a situation watching the game too, at 169 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:32.399 a restaurant here in town, and it was great the 170 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:34.279 first you know, oh, sure, you get into the game 171 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:38.800 and everybody's excited and all that, and then literally like 172 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:41.240 within ten minutes, it was quiet, right, and there was 173 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:43.800 nothing to cheer about, and people were, you know, just 174 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:46.720 kind of walking away from the screens and going home. 175 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:48.399 And I know I was going to say that did 176 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:50.680 they stay? They probably didn't. Didn't. Yeah, I mean I 177 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:52.120 was out of there by the fourth quarter. Was there 178 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:54.079 a lot of people there to watch the game specifically? 179 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.439 For sure? Yeah? And by halftime you're thinking Wow, Yeah, 180 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.720 what happened here? Yeah, by definitely the fourth quarter, you're 181 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:01.480 thinking just paid my bill and get the hell out 182 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:01.839 of it. Yeah. 183 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:04.120 I still think though, I think because we went through 184 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:05.839 last year, I think there's still some hope. 185 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:07.519 I mean we've only seen three games. 186 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:09.639 Yeah, and you know there's you know, I don't know 187 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:11.439 what were last year and after three. 188 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:13.480 Games, yeah, it was like two and one or whatever. 189 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.160 It was two and two for sure after miss Mississippi State. 190 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.519 Yeah, so there's there's certainly time to get things going, 191 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.199 and the anticipation is still there I think, and no 192 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:23.279 one's giving up at this point. 193 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:26.079 When you when you covered, uh, you watch some of 194 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:28.160 the media right now. You really don't have to, but 195 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.240 you follow some of it, right Uh. You know, you 196 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:33.039 have the raw rock guys in the media, you have 197 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:35.559 the guys who are pragmatic you and I think that's 198 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:40.440 partly pretty much it. Uh in your in your profession 199 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:43.639 when you were in the media, did you you you 200 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.519 you said it straightforward, it was you just said what happened? 201 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:50.200 Were there are times when you said this needs to 202 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:50.759 get fixed? 203 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.519 You were you were a critical eye, Yeah, you know, 204 00:08:53.559 --> 00:08:56.559 and I you pay down the road, down the middle. 205 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:58.919 I really did, and that was just my style. 206 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:01.200 I know that there are other people doing sports that 207 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:04.720 would have they'd kind of do their normal thing and 208 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:06.759 then they kind of go to the side and now 209 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:09.120 here's my commentary. Here's really how I yeah, yeah, yeah. 210 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:12.480 There's a guy in Dallas named Dale Hanson. Yeah, he 211 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:14.840 got amazing at that stuff. He would you know, he'd 212 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.120 give your Cowboys highlights and this and that, and then 213 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:19.120 the last couple of minutes of his sportscast would be 214 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:21.840 his commentary, which is kind of like a newspaper. 215 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.480 You have kind of true sections of a newspaper. Let 216 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:26.480 me ask you. Would that work here? 217 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:29.919 I don't think anybody's ever really done it. I can't, 218 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:32.440 but it would work here. I don't know, because you know, 219 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:35.600 the town small, small town. But it works in Dallas 220 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:38.360 because you have those fans who want to hear rip 221 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:42.679 Jerry Jones apart, you know, rip Dak Prescott. Yeah, you 222 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:46.799 know here, it's a friendly environment. It's in college. 223 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:49.360 It's pretty friendly pretty much everywhere except for maybe La 224 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:51.120 or Yeah. I mean I was. 225 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:54.440 I was pretty well scripted. I pretty much knew what 226 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:56.080 I was going to say. But every once in a while, 227 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.279 you just kind of, you know, go off script and 228 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:02.480 maybe even like one or two sentence might be considered critical. 229 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:06.279 I wasn't really planning to say did you Did you 230 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:09.080 ever hear about it? Not really, not really. 231 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:11.840 I mean, one time, I'll tell you one little anecdote, 232 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:14.120 and these are two friends of mine became pretty good friends. 233 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:17.440 Was the lacrosse coach. 234 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:20.240 Here's a guy named Mickey Miles Felton and they were 235 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:23.240 a club sports still are And then they the ice 236 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:26.440 Cats that was also a club sports. And I went 237 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:28.639 on the air and I said something about the ice 238 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.600 Cats were the most successful club sports team at the 239 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.559 u of A. You got a call as soon as 240 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:35.440 I got off set. I mean, I hadn't even got 241 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:38.240 back to the desk and there's Mickey Colin. What do 242 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:40.960 I mean, Wait a second, we're really successful? To I, 243 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:43.080 so are you guys drawing like four thousand, five thousand 244 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:45.080 fans a game? That was really kind of what I 245 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:47.279 was basing the statement on it. But you know, those 246 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:52.200 were very few and far between, but nothing A no 247 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:56.000 one calling you one, Dave. Well, no, there's other stories 248 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:57.159 I probably can't talk about. 249 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:00.320 Really. Oh wow, I wanted to hear those. That was 250 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:02.480 a football or basketball. It was basketball, of course it 251 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:06.120 was because not called yeah but loot. You know, but 252 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:08.120 you did a show for a time or two. I didn't, 253 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:11.639 you know, I never did. No, we did the football 254 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:14.480 shows back in the day. But I want to hear 255 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:16.919 that story. Was it was it a critical one or 256 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:19.080 is it a you got something wrong? Dave? 257 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:22.440 Or on the radio we would talk about that. Well, No, 258 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:24.879 it wasn't bad. It wasn't bad. It was it was 259 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:27.639 it was unusual and that he really did call, you know, 260 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:29.200 he was upset about something we had done. 261 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:30.600 No, he's done that in the past. 262 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:33.679 Yeah, and it was it was kind of sad in 263 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:38.480 a way, not maybe not sad, but just unusual to 264 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:40.919 even have that happen, you know, not too many coaches 265 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:43.240 would would pick up the phone and try to find 266 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:43.840 my number. 267 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:46.480 Okay, No, I have something to talk about it. So 268 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:48.919 was it a it was a factual air? 269 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:53.720 It was it was more about a player who had transferred, okay, 270 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:56.120 And we were we were commenting on that, and we'd 271 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:59.559 found out who it was and gone on the air 272 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:01.679 with that. And it didn't come out of like the 273 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:03.519 official u of a release, right. 274 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.679 There were sticklers about that but he called in your 275 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:10.480 in your world, in my world. We didn't need that. No, 276 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:11.759 we didn't need that. We knew it. 277 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:14.799 We went with it exactly and confirm it. We're going 278 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:18.080 with it. And they are much more controlling now than 279 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:20.320 they were. Sure this is you know, probably in the 280 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.159 early two thousands or late nineties, where you really had 281 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:25.879 to you know, you kind of would go with it 282 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:27.759 and we would say, wait a second. You know this 283 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:30.600 is our job, right, you know we're reporters, right, And 284 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.080 so yeah, he kind of came down hard on us 285 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.240 there and that was like the only time, but it 286 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:37.399 wasn't any and he probably forgot about it. 287 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:41.200 Sure it was party not incorrect, right, it was, it 288 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:43.679 was true. Yeah. So yeah, No, he did that to 289 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:45.840 me a couple of times. And everyone knows my relationship 290 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:49.360 with him. Uh. He had said in an interview press covers. 291 00:12:49.399 --> 00:12:50.879 I think I had it on tape and he came 292 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:53.080 up to me and I wrote about it and it 293 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:55.279 didn't come out like he wanted it to, I guess, 294 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:58.960 and I said, lout you said it, and I brought 295 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.159 out the tape. Is well, you know, Steve, that's not 296 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:05.440 what I meant. Luke, that's what you said it was. 297 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:07.399 It was good because I have you really had a 298 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:09.440 good relationship with him, and I did too, just because 299 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:11.919 we've been here so long, so that maybe kind of 300 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:14.480 caught me off guard that he went so far instill. 301 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:17.120 Actually pick up the phone and you know in that voice, 302 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:21.360 you know right away, Yeah, on a weekend morning like that, Well, 303 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:24.440 I know who you are. You don't need to tell me. 304 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:26.759 Remember I was, I was home, Like what he's calling 305 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:30.120 my house? Right? Right right? You probably call even back 306 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.200 then in the little box. Yeah, yeah, if it wasn't him, 307 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:38.000 it was Bobby. Bobby not happy with happy or one 308 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:40.759 of his kids would call that kind of thing. Those 309 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:44.600 actually those were the good old days to me. They were, yeah, 310 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:47.200 because there's a lot of winning, a lot of winning 311 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:50.480 and uh a few, you know, a few disappointments, although 312 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:54.840 there were, and I'm sure it helped your career and 313 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:56.799 just to make it more enjoyable. It did. 314 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:59.519 I mean, there were you know, so many, so many 315 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:02.720 great players just from that program alone, let alone everybody else. 316 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:06.879 But every time I go into McHale, it's like like ghosts, 317 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:07.480 you know, they're. 318 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:08.519 Like, oh my gosh, I was standing here. 319 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:11.960 I remember interviewing Sean Elliott right here, or Chase Budinger 320 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.240 when he's in the Olympics. I'm watching him and I'm going, man, 321 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:16.080 we were just talking to him. It seemed like yesterday. 322 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:18.480 Damn Chase. I try to ask him every week, can 323 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:20.440 you come to the show. He doesn't respond to get 324 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:21.000 him on the show. 325 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:23.720 Yeah, because he doesn't answer. 326 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:26.720 It doesn't answer my request. And him and I were 327 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:29.320 pretty good, pretty close because Jordan Hill was on there. 328 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:32.799 Why di whis But you know, sometimes when you bake 329 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:33.840 the Olympics, she don't have time. 330 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:36.480 That was a good We had a great moment with him. 331 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:37.840 With Chase. 332 00:14:38.039 --> 00:14:40.840 Yeah, it was in the Pac twelve tournament here maybe 333 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:44.600 Pack ten when they were at Staples and he was 334 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:48.080 going to become the all time leading scorer in high school. 335 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:50.679 Oh yeah for California before he came here. So that 336 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:52.000 game was in. 337 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.039 La Costa can you know whatever high school he went 338 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:56.639 to down there, and so we had the day before 339 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:00.120 the Pac twelve started, we drove down there and a 340 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:03.279 whole story on him breaking the record and hanging out 341 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:05.039 with the fans. I mean, he seriously. They put up 342 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:08.039 a table at center court after the game for him 343 00:15:08.039 --> 00:15:08.879 to sign autographs. 344 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:10.440 Oh yeah, it was. He was that type of a 345 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:12.480 star for that. Yeah, and it was good at the time. 346 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:14.440 And you remember it was at the near the end 347 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:18.200 of Loot's time. He he would say that the Chases 348 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.159 was the best recruit he'd ever signed at that time. Yeah, 349 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:24.799 And he also said it probably because he needed the 350 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:27.279 people to kind of rally behind the team again because 351 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:29.759 he was near the it was after the Chicago trip 352 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:32.360 and you know what I'm saying, it was a period 353 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:34.000 of time, period of time where you knew that the 354 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:36.080 end was happening, so he needed to kind of rally 355 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:40.600 the people. And no, and Chase became a pretty good player. 356 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:43.320 He was you know, he was mixed with Marcus Williams 357 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:48.039 and which was not good, but it was it was 358 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:49.960 what it was. Yeah, I mean, that was just amazing. 359 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:52.200 This summer he watched that. I couldn't. 360 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:55.279 I mean, we always knew he liked volleyball. He was 361 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:56.960 pretty good. And you know, you don't see too much 362 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:00.600 beach volleyball coverage or highlights, but there is one of 363 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:01.879 the top of the world right right. 364 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:03.440 Well, when he came in, he was the number one 365 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:06.320 high school player in the country. Yep. Back whenever that 366 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:08.600 two thousand and five, whatever it was, and then he 367 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:10.919 just chose to do basketball. Were you at the Red 368 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:16.200 Blue game? His his red blue game? Yeah, I don't 369 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:17.960 you know what. 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