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<v Speaker 1>Uh, what's up you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's me Cecily here with my dear friend Stephanie. Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who we listen? Hello you. If you watched

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<v Speaker 2>clip shows back in the early two thousands, like Best

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<v Speaker 2>Week Ever, you might be a little nervous right now

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<v Speaker 2>because you're like, is that really Cecily Nobler? If you

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<v Speaker 2>if you read Fashion Police, both Stephanie and I were

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<v Speaker 2>all up in that, and you're probably like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know how to listen to this. They're so freaking famous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit it's a little bit crazy, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't see myself as really famous,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just that other people do. So when people feel

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<v Speaker 1>that way about you, you have to just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>accept it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I kind of understand.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes you understand, like a little bit of about

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<v Speaker 1>how Mick Jagger was feeling when they interviewed him about

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<v Speaker 1>like his fame, and he was like, yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's just hard because I try to do normal person stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but you kind of can't.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, wait a minute, were you on fashion on

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<v Speaker 2>Lifetime on that clip show about like eighties fashion? And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wasn't I I mean, was I I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know it was that really me? You tell me, you

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<v Speaker 2>tell me who am I today? I'm different? Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a different person now than whatever. When I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about high waisted gens, I don't know, and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>in a funny, very quirky way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because your voice, you can't help it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>your signature voice style.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I can't, you know, Like I just

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<v Speaker 2>I put my shoes on the same way everybody else

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<v Speaker 2>puts their shoes on. Yeah, I mean my.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I tie my shoes a little bit differently

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<v Speaker 1>than other people do. And to be honest, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's like a fame thing or if it's

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<v Speaker 1>just that's how I tied my shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's creative. I think it's genius. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's because you're a genius. You're just like you

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<v Speaker 2>don't you know you're left handed. You're you're not left handed,

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<v Speaker 2>but you act like a left handed person who's just

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<v Speaker 2>like a genius.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I am left handed, you are, Yeah, I am

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<v Speaker 1>left hand. Yes, I am a self paw and I

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<v Speaker 1>do I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I never knew this. I feel what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is the coolest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>How come it never comes up in any of the

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<v Speaker 1>personality tests that you make me do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that i'd make you take you I

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<v Speaker 2>had no. Wow, that is impressive. I think that that's sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to explain it. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>people that are left handed are sexy. I'm jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, a lot of people, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people would.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree with you. I know, I always like associated left

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<v Speaker 2>back when everybody was first like I was. I've always

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<v Speaker 2>been a PC person. I don't know why. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>easier to write for me on PCs, like it just

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<v Speaker 2>makes more sense as a writer. Oh, I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you meant politically correct.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to say, like for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to point out when people are left

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<v Speaker 1>handed because I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Just very PC. I guess that's fair that you would think,

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't really explain that. But I always associated

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<v Speaker 2>left handed people back in the day. Those are those

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<v Speaker 2>are the Apple those are the Mac people. It's different,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought it was like, they're so cool. There's

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<v Speaker 2>so much cooler than my right hand and my Dell computer,

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<v Speaker 2>which is still the case. So listen, now, this is

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<v Speaker 2>not a great segue into what we're talking about today,

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<v Speaker 2>but I should say this. I want to say this

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<v Speaker 2>a few times, like very much trigger warning, yes, trigger trigger,

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<v Speaker 2>trigger trigger for real, guys, We're gonna really it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get very graphic. You know what we're talking about from

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<v Speaker 2>the title, but like, oh my god, yeah, it's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why, like if in case you're hearing in

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<v Speaker 1>our voice that we're being a little silly, it's because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want the show to just We're not that

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<v Speaker 1>show that's just like, oh my god, we only talk

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<v Speaker 1>about tragic stuff. So we're just we're just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>lighten the mood to slow But we do also take

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<v Speaker 1>very seriously our job of keeping you guys up to

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<v Speaker 1>date on what's happening in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and somebody wrote, you know, posted this on our

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<v Speaker 2>Rosebricks page, like you guys need to cover this. And

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<v Speaker 2>then a friend of mine also sent me stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like kind of half asleep, like whoa, oh

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<v Speaker 2>what so and I sent it to you. Oh you

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<v Speaker 2>sent it to me too. That was last night, and

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<v Speaker 2>then another friend sent it this morning some other information.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about Perez Hilton obviously, should we before

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<v Speaker 2>we get into this, should we, Like you said, go

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<v Speaker 2>back to what happened a few months ago. I can

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<v Speaker 2>read that to you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So the story happened in March, So March, April, May, June, July, August,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, like five months ago, okay, it says Paris

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<v Speaker 1>Perez Hilton claims he encountered God after being hospitalized for

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks, and the quote on the headline is my

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<v Speaker 1>stupidity landed me in the hospital for twenty one days

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the worst and best thing that's ever

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<v Speaker 1>happened to me. That's what he said on Instagram. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember we covered it too. Oh yeah, we sure did, so,

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<v Speaker 1>it says. But to remind you, because that was a

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<v Speaker 1>while ago, Perez Hilton has dropped the most important video

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever shared, so, it says. He took to Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday to share an update on his health after

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<v Speaker 1>being hospitalized for three weeks, as well as how God

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<v Speaker 1>presented himself to me amid the challenging experience. So, before

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<v Speaker 1>being hospitalized, he said he was battling the flu for

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<v Speaker 1>a week. However, he was taking all his medication without food,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he was supposed to. That's when he quote

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<v Speaker 1>developed an ulcer and then a perforation and then sepsis.

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<v Speaker 1>He recounted, the day before I was hospitalized, I was

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<v Speaker 1>in so much stomach pain. I was like, this is weird,

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<v Speaker 1>but it'll go away. The next morning, I couldn't walk.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to be taken by ambulance to the hospital. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we underwent tests and blah blah blah, and he

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<v Speaker 1>ended up having surgery. And he's talking about the sepsis

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<v Speaker 1>and then he says it was such a slow process.

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, and then last week was hell. I

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<v Speaker 1>had already been in the hospital two weeks, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I just want to go home. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to be with my babies. Do you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>a single father of three kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he had there's a custody battle now apparently, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there was somebody else in the picture

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<v Speaker 2>at some point. But he's so off the rails. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>come back to that, okay, so he says.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, since having time to reflect after being sent home,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when he came to the realization that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most special things about this experience is that God

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<v Speaker 1>presented himself to me. Quote, it was not a feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>God presented himself to me. I grew up Catholic, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was never a believer until now. God presented himself

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<v Speaker 1>to me and then did something something I could only

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<v Speaker 1>call miraculous. And then he's remembered this is he made

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<v Speaker 1>a video and he was crying, and he says, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was very lucid.

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<v Speaker 2>It was real.

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<v Speaker 1>And this has been life changing. And I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 1>to start taking the kids to church every week and

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<v Speaker 1>to just know that God is real. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe. I know now.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's you know. We always say mental illness sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>starts with a lot of like God stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's very We studied that in school, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think I don't know much about it, but I find

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<v Speaker 2>that they've found that religious experiences light up in the

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<v Speaker 2>temporal lobe of your brain, which is very also close

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<v Speaker 2>to where psychosis lights up, So there is a very

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<v Speaker 2>fine line. It's a certain part of the brain where

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<v Speaker 2>like that all happens. But a spiritual person, just to

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<v Speaker 2>be fair, would say, well, it doesn't mean that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying I'm just saying it doesn't mean you're mentally ill.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be that they he had some sort of genuine

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual experience. That's what one could argue back then, which

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<v Speaker 2>I may have even time, Like, who's to say? You

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<v Speaker 2>never know when something presents itself and somehow he found

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus and now he's going to church.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, you're saying that something you would have You could

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<v Speaker 1>have argued back then as if five months ago not

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<v Speaker 1>not based on the story that came out yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>God, I'm saying six months ago, I could say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>who's to say, just because it's in the same part

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<v Speaker 2>of the brain where it lights up. Maybe that is God,

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<v Speaker 2>oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think what he's saying sounds it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about he actually had medical issues, so why.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you issues? Yeah, and there's some theories about that,

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<v Speaker 2>which we'll get to. So okay, the thing that happened

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday or when you're hearing this two days ago, someone

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<v Speaker 2>posted on Reddit. A lot of people started posting threads,

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok everywhere. It was going crazy. If it were a documentary,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be just showing little bubbles popping up everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>on social media, like bumpumpump. Everyone's talking about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>someone writes on Reddit, am I hallucinating? My friend just

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<v Speaker 2>sent me a screen recording of Perez TikTok live stream.

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<v Speaker 2>So he went on TikTok live stream, and it says

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<v Speaker 2>after warm warning me, what the fuck? Next part is

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<v Speaker 2>very graphic, they write, and you guys should know, that says.

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<v Speaker 2>Both screen recordings were fifteen and twenty seconds long. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's literally Perez covered in blood actually and physically.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't read this yet. Something what his own oh,

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<v Speaker 2>shitting his own self or cutting his own self? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Maybe the cutting he was cutting? Okay, why

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<v Speaker 2>is it shing with his own self with a knife

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<v Speaker 2>with an oh what that stands for? That's social media

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<v Speaker 2>speak for self harming. Okay, yes, saying things like oh

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<v Speaker 2>yeah and shit. He literally looked like Carrie after the

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<v Speaker 2>pig's blood was dumped all over her, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>not an exaggeration. She then sent me a screenshot of

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<v Speaker 2>how there were police and an ambulance hostage stand off,

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<v Speaker 2>but they haven't been able to find more information. Is

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<v Speaker 2>anyone able to confirm or deny edit linked to the

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood Reporter, I believe the situation is ongoing. Edit too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure these videos are out there, but I have

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<v Speaker 2>been told and retold they are real. I strongly suggest

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<v Speaker 2>do not watching them, any of them. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>a game or a joke or an AI deep fake.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an actual man violently attacking his body in

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<v Speaker 2>four K. Do not watch it. And then Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of comments that just went up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>twelve twelve hours ago, and well a little longer when

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<v Speaker 2>you've heard this, and there's already like one hundred fifty

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<v Speaker 2>comments just on this one. Can I read you a couple?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course? There was also I haven't seen it, but

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<v Speaker 2>they were saying he was making really weird groaning sounds

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<v Speaker 2>that here, but that's what I was told. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>So someone wrote, he's severely mentally ill. He had some

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<v Speaker 2>I watched him on Celebrity Big Brother in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>back when I was sort of into the show, and

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<v Speaker 2>of a picnic back then, so that's kind of important.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't watch that. So they're saying like, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>which comes to the theory that a friend of mine had,

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<v Speaker 2>which we'll get to, which is like, no, this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>just him getting sick in the hospital, This isn't like,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't shocking right to some people. And then of

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<v Speaker 2>course there's a lot of people that are going to

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<v Speaker 2>in this coow. We're not going to talk about karma.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not those people. But yeah, I have to skip

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<v Speaker 2>through a lot of those because they're like you. So

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<v Speaker 2>then this person says he had subsists and was in

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital a few months ago, as we just talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's something called post sets syndrome and it's real.

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<v Speaker 2>you recover. Said, I had sepsis and recovered, but I

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<v Speaker 2>had several issues for months afterwards, not mentally but physically.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's different. It seems by watching the video, which

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<v Speaker 2>was horrific by the way, that this was partially due

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<v Speaker 2>to some type of drug induced mental episode, maybe prescription drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not been himself, no matter how much he's hated

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<v Speaker 2>by so many. I hope he gets helped. Okay, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is we could go through all this. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we should find I wish we could find

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<v Speaker 2>a play by play of exactly what it was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of personally interested. But now they're just arguing

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<v Speaker 2>about why. Okay, BUTIL said, yeah, sexist psychosis is real.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying it's real. Okay, so I have This is

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<v Speaker 2>the police statement.

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<v Speaker 1>The Miami Dade Sheriff's Office received multiple calls regarding an

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<v Speaker 1>individual who was live streaming acts of self harm. Deputies

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<v Speaker 1>quickly located the individual's residence, where they spoke with family

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<v Speaker 1>members on scene. Okay, this is weird and confirmed he

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<v Speaker 1>was alone inside. Nice So okay, so I guess family

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<v Speaker 1>members went to his house, but they weren't in. They

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a lot of people were reporting it also on TikTok,

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<v Speaker 2>like they'd saw it live and were calling the police.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But I'm just thinking if he has kids, right,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they weren't home. That's what I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure, right, because he was home alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>After many incidents involving a person experiencing a mental health

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<v Speaker 1>crisis or actively harming themselves, deputies prioritized de escalation by

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<v Speaker 1>an immediate threat to others. Slowing the situation and utilizing

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<v Speaker 1>crisis intervention techniques can reduce the likelihood of a suicide

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<v Speaker 1>by cop encounter and minimize the risk of injury to

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<v Speaker 1>the individual, deputies and the public. At this time, deputies

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<v Speaker 1>have tactically disengaged while continuing to monitor the situation. That

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<v Speaker 1>seems crazy, so they just disengaged. They're like, cool, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to tell you something, but it's so

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<v Speaker 2>it's so triggering, but I want to kind of share it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will do it without triggering too much. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend who died by that by suicide,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, and the cops were called. Well before

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<v Speaker 2>he did it. The cops came to his place. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a condo in the valley. They came and they

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to de escalate for a long time. They

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<v Speaker 2>could hear them through the door. They were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to him through the door, but he was like

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<v Speaker 2>hell bent. And after they did it for a few hours,

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<v Speaker 2>they literally called the point person and were like, there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing else we can do. And so he was alive

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<v Speaker 2>for quite some time before he did it, and the

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<v Speaker 2>cops are saying they can't they can't barge in because

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<v Speaker 2>he has a gun. He had a gun, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>they can't put themselves in that kind of danger. So

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't just barge in because usually a lot not usually,

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<v Speaker 2>but sometimes in cases like this, they are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be they don't want to do it themselves. They it's

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<v Speaker 2>so hard, so they do it by cop. So if

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a gun in his hand, they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to shoot him. But I'm like, why would they have

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<v Speaker 2>to shoot him? Why can't they just like tase him.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't the gun well for in that case, because

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have time they if he allot it, call

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<v Speaker 2>they had hours, and they never called social there was

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<v Speaker 2>a social service. There's like a mental health thing that

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<v Speaker 2>they could have called. They never even put a phone

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<v Speaker 2>call into that to have someone else at least try

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<v Speaker 2>at least come out and like try to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what that's what I mean. That's what a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Democrats are trying to the whole thing where

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<v Speaker 1>they go, oh, that the Democrats don't want any police,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to cancel it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what it is. They want different places you

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<v Speaker 2>can call for different reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they don't want everything to be the police's job

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<v Speaker 1>because the police are not trained in that. They want

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<v Speaker 1>there to be mental health units to help, which they

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<v Speaker 1>finally have, which would eliminate that and not eliminate that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would absolutely help.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just interesting to me to hear that they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see. I mean, I guess that's it's a policy.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether it's Florida or California, it was some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>policy where they can't they're not, you know, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure there's some reason, but I got upset about that

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<v Speaker 2>for years because I'm like, wait, so there were just

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<v Speaker 2>hours if he was alive, and then you guys were

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<v Speaker 2>just right there. Yeah, okay, so go ahead with what

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<v Speaker 2>the cops are saying on this. No, that was the

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<v Speaker 2>end of that, Okay. Well on the Reddit thread, people,

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<v Speaker 2>it's in real time also, so people are like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they got him. They got him in the hospital, like

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<v Speaker 2>so they're waiting all this time, like it's like all

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<v Speaker 2>they're calling it kind of a hostage thing. They don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't get him out, and so they finally got

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<v Speaker 2>him in an ambulance. Someone says, to the hospital within

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<v Speaker 2>the last hour. This was like around the same time

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<v Speaker 2>the first part was posted. That recovery is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be tough and said someone said, especially since it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>gonna involve that least seventy two hour cycled. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say probably more than seventy two hour cycled at

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<v Speaker 2>this point. Yeah, but maybe that's all you can do

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<v Speaker 2>by law. I don't know if you can. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a med thing, you can get him on

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<v Speaker 2>the right meds or get him off whatever he took.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're so right the pointing out of like the

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<v Speaker 2>psychosis and the religious experiences you think back to, like Kanye.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many instances of this, and it seems to

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<v Speaker 2>church try things. No, it doesn't seem to lead the

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<v Speaker 2>right directions right. Oh my god. The people the way

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<v Speaker 2>they're posting on Reddit, and usually people on it are

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<v Speaker 2>kind of funny and snarky. They're making me really freak out.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, you, guys, do not watch this video. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>warning you. I've been online a long time and I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen some stuff. It made the Charlie Kirk video look

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<v Speaker 2>rated G, which is also a really weird thing. That

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<v Speaker 2>was just thrust on us to see that. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen anything like that, Like, why are we showing this?

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, well, and along with what you're along with

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<v Speaker 1>that sentiment, I will tell you that I found this article.

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok criticized as Prez Hilton's disturbing live stream continued for

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes only went on for fifteen minutes as TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>has faced criticism after Prez Hilton appeared to harm himself

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then of course they repeat the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred times. The forty eight year old celebrity gossip

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<v Speaker 1>blogger who previously warned about a dangerous precedent? Should I

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<v Speaker 1>click on that? He previously warned about a dangerous precedent?

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<v Speaker 1>What's he saying? Okay, Horez Helton warns about dangerous precedent

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<v Speaker 1>for reporting If judge grants Blake Lively's subpoena.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's just nonsense, not so right, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>He's heading to a Nevada courtroom after Blake Lively attempted

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I see.

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<v Speaker 1>She alleged that Justin and his team engaged in a

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<v Speaker 1>Heerez worries it could quote set a very dangerous precedent.

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<v Speaker 1>He told the Mirror. I think that would be very

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<v Speaker 1>wrong and dangerous for other journalists.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I agree with him on that, but that that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably like that's not helping. By the way, his kids

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<v Speaker 2>are thirteen, eleven, and eight, but they were not in

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<v Speaker 2>the house, so I don't remember. I know he adopted,

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<v Speaker 2>like he did do something that I don't totally remember.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think that he had a boyfriend at

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<v Speaker 2>one point, but I don't know if it's the boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>trying to take the kids or like other family members.

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<v Speaker 2>But obviously he shouldn't, you know, he cannot, right, so.

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<v Speaker 1>This is yeah, TikTok states in its community guidelines, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>for suicide or self harm. It also notes that the

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<v Speaker 1>platform doesn't allow nudity. We don't allow grasping, violent or

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to mental health crisis in our inventions,

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<v Speaker 1>live streams. By proactively sharing critical information with local emergency services,

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<v Speaker 1>we enabled timely and appropriate intervention by those authorities. So

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<v Speaker 1>The Mirror reached out to TikTok for a statement and

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck with that. I'm sure that they're really gonna okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So my friend sent me this thing because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>Wikipedia or something about septic psychosis, and it says typically

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<v Speaker 2>severe wide inflammation I guess of the brain and reduced

419
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<v Speaker 2>blood flow to the brain. Signs and symptoms, sudden confusion

420
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<v Speaker 2>and disorientation, vivid visual or auditory Uh you know, I guess, hallucinations,

421
00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:05.720
<v Speaker 2>extreme sleepiness, sleepiness, stupor or coma, agitation or restless behavior.

422
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<v Speaker 2>And then I wrote back to my friend, Yeah, but

423
00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:11.559
<v Speaker 2>he was already so manic, you know, and he just wrote, yeah,

424
00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:16.480
<v Speaker 2>but the Jesus stuff started right after then this within

425
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<v Speaker 2>six months. If you have sepsis, it can negatively impact

426
00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:21.880
<v Speaker 2>your head for up to half a year. I don't

427
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<v Speaker 2>know where that came from after the sepsis event, but

428
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is this just like this isn't just hallucinations

429
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<v Speaker 2>like this? Is this feels I don't know.

430
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think what would be really important here, and

431
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the answer to it, is if before

432
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<v Speaker 1>that had he been doing any like any Jesus talk,

433
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<v Speaker 1>because it sounds like.

434
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<v Speaker 2>He hadn't been. Yeah, but I think what this person

435
00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:46.799
<v Speaker 2>on Reddit was saying is like, yeah, no, but he

436
00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:51.960
<v Speaker 2>was seriously totally already acting crazy even in twenty eighteen.

437
00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:54.319
<v Speaker 2>That's what this person is saying. In twenty fifteen, they

438
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<v Speaker 2>watched him on Celebrity Big Brother and they said he

439
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<v Speaker 2>was not not okay, they said they could see it.

440
00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Then they're like, oh, this guy's crazy. Oh. I mean,

441
00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:12.640
<v Speaker 2>someone wrote somebody's asking okay, So someone wrote his mother

442
00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:14.759
<v Speaker 2>lives with them, Okay, let me see about the kids,

443
00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:16.960
<v Speaker 2>because they're talking about the kids. So it says he's

444
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<v Speaker 2>a single father of three dot dot dot. He's in

445
00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:21.839
<v Speaker 2>the hospital for brutally self harming himself. His kids are

446
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:23.680
<v Speaker 2>on their way to foster care. What a weird thing

447
00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.640
<v Speaker 2>to say. Someone said his mother lives with them. They're

448
00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:29.079
<v Speaker 2>not going to foster care. Where are you getting the story?

449
00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:31.880
<v Speaker 2>And then someone else said his children are not in

450
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<v Speaker 2>foster care. He's a single dad, real name Mario, three kids.

451
00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:42.960
<v Speaker 2>He relocated from Vegas. He was living in Vegas to Miami.

452
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<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, I didn't know his mom lived there.

453
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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of odd that he's I guess to get

454
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<v Speaker 2>help with the kids. Like it's already a little weird.

455
00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:54.119
<v Speaker 2>The guy was already pretty weird. Drawing cocaine dripping from

456
00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:57.480
<v Speaker 2>people's noses was like his job for twenty years. Then

457
00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:59.519
<v Speaker 2>he just went and self adopted a bunch of people.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Then couldn't take care of him, so moved in with

459
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:04.920
<v Speaker 2>his mother in Miami. I mean, I don't know. I

460
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<v Speaker 2>feel like I don't think this is my point? Is

461
00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:11.200
<v Speaker 2>is not like he was like, oh my god, the

462
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<v Speaker 2>most normal, healthy human and I've got some stuff, okay

463
00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:21.680
<v Speaker 2>for you, Okay, hold on keep going for a second

464
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<v Speaker 2>because I'm getting it up. Someone tried to make a joke.

465
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<v Speaker 2>I'll just share the joke, but someone said he cracked,

466
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<v Speaker 2>and someone wrote as Mike Tyson would say, he methed up.

467
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<v Speaker 2>You're trying to say, like a joke on meth and mess.

468
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<v Speaker 2>I would share that it could be meth. I don't

469
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<v Speaker 2>think that meth usually causes that, but it could. That

470
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<v Speaker 2>could cause you get naked and being inappropriate on and

471
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<v Speaker 2>his whole thing is being online and being on TikTok,

472
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<v Speaker 2>So it could be meth very well. Could be meth, honestly.

473
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean that's interesting, and maybe that's what caused

474
00:24:54.680 --> 00:24:58.119
<v Speaker 1>like even the steps. I mean, maybe he's had drug addictions.

475
00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Sepsis. I think the hospital stay caused the sepsis. But

476
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:05.200
<v Speaker 2>in that case, well okay, so here's okay. I have

477
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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things.

478
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<v Speaker 1>One is, when I look up, has pres Hilton been

479
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:10.519
<v Speaker 1>mentally ill for a while?

480
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<v Speaker 2>I have pres.

481
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<v Speaker 1>Hilton has not publicly chronicled a long term diagnosed mental

482
00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>illness yea, though he was recently hospitalized following an acute

483
00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:23.880
<v Speaker 1>mental health crisis. Okay, so they're talking about that. It

484
00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>said the March twenty twenty sixth thing he shared he

485
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:31.359
<v Speaker 1>spent three weeks in the hospital. Public apologies don't like,

486
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:36.200
<v Speaker 1>let's not forget after the subsize thing he posted videos

487
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>expressing deep regret and shame for the aggressive and cruel

488
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:43.000
<v Speaker 1>style of celebrity gossip he was known for in the

489
00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>two thousands. Okay, but did we know about this? So

490
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:52.519
<v Speaker 1>did you know that he had a huge fallout because

491
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I was almost going to say earlier, like let's let's

492
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<v Speaker 1>give credit where credits due, and Prez Hilton basically brought

493
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<v Speaker 1>us Lady Gaga.

494
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<v Speaker 2>But did you know that they're bitter enemies? I would

495
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.599
<v Speaker 2>imagine yeah, I mean, she's a pretty normal, you know,

496
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:09.359
<v Speaker 2>good person.

497
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, she accused him of stalking her.

498
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<v Speaker 2>I believe it. So there's that's fascinating. So that goes

499
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 2>way back, Yes, it goes way way back. Hold on, okay,

500
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<v Speaker 2>because I have a thing that was deleted from Paris

501
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Hilton stocked. Lady. You guys are getting this real time

502
00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:35.240
<v Speaker 2>of finding out, I mean, and yeah, and yeah.

503
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<v Speaker 1>What are the accusations against Okay, uh so she accused him.

504
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:46.160
<v Speaker 1>His real name is Mario Lavendera. Did you know that

505
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:50.279
<v Speaker 1>it says they sent her on malicious online bullying, outing

506
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:54.880
<v Speaker 1>closeted individuals and spreading unverified and harmful claims. Okay, that's

507
00:26:55.160 --> 00:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that's his. The accusations against him targeting minors. He criticized

508
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:04.559
<v Speaker 1>underage stars, such as attacking a fifteen year old Charlie Demilio,

509
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 1>remember that making negative remarks about celebrity children. Accused Ariana

510
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Grande and her brother of using illegal substances.

511
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:17.279
<v Speaker 2>He weirdly just talked about Ariana like two days ago,

512
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:20.200
<v Speaker 2>we just did our story, and then he was just

513
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:23.039
<v Speaker 2>making videos about her as well, And then I felt

514
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>immediately guilty. I'm like, oh God, we don't want to

515
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:26.680
<v Speaker 2>be doing exactly the same thing that he's doing.

516
00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:31.599
<v Speaker 1>No, but okay, so this goes so far back. Okay,

517
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>this is from twenty thirteen. Lady Gaga accuses Perez Hilton

518
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>of stalking. So there was a Twitter feud between the

519
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>two former friends. So they were formerly best friends.

520
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:48.000
<v Speaker 2>That's odd. And now then at.

521
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:50.160
<v Speaker 1>This point in twenty thirteen, he claimed he was getting

522
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:54.279
<v Speaker 1>death threats from fans because you know the little monsters, right,

523
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and they're not wrong, says A. Feud between

524
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Perez Hilton and Lady Gaga has gotten increasingly ugs as

525
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the two former friends continue to trade insults over Twitter.

526
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Now it seems Hilton has had enough. He defends, I'm

527
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:10.400
<v Speaker 1>a critic and not a stalker, as the pop star

528
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:14.039
<v Speaker 1>accused him of on Sunday afternoon, and he got death threats.

529
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>The cause of the rift is unclear, but after several

530
00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>days of Hilton boasting about Gaga's new Singles Week performance

531
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:24.799
<v Speaker 1>on the charts, the pop star called out Hilton for

532
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>a mean text he sent on the day of an

533
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:31.599
<v Speaker 1>accident canfined her to a wheelchair. Gaga took it one

534
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>step further on Sunday, accusing him of stalking her New

535
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:38.960
<v Speaker 1>York apartment. She wasn't home at the time, and then

536
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 1>he says is his statement for this. My heart hurts

537
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:47.599
<v Speaker 1>that my former very good friend, Lady Gaga, a person

538
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I used to call my wifey and traveled the world with,

539
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>is making very public and very untrue allegations about.

540
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:55.839
<v Speaker 2>Me on Twitter.

541
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>While it is still too painful for me to go

542
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>into detail about why I chose to no longer make

543
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>her a part of my life, I will say I

544
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.839
<v Speaker 1>am a critic, not a stalker. Any allegation that I

545
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>am stalking her is utterly false, defamatory, and now appeared

546
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.799
<v Speaker 1>to be putting me in danger. I will continue to

547
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>be a critic in a way that is not mean

548
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:19.079
<v Speaker 1>or involves name calling, and I will continue to have

549
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>an opinion and talk about music and songs like Gaga's

550
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>applause as the suggestion that I pose a danger to

551
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Gaga is preposterous. Uh And if fans want to blah

552
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>blah blah, but she claimed okay. Gaga claims that fans

553
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.079
<v Speaker 1>alerted her to Hilton's presence at her New York apartment.

554
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>According to a source, Hilton was apartment shopping in Manhattan and,

555
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>unbeknownst to him, was scheduled to see a unit in

556
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Gaga's building. He's looking for a place that meets his

557
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>family's needs, says an insider, who adds that Hilton had

558
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:56.519
<v Speaker 1>no idea Gaga lived there and he was not escorted

559
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>from the building. That sounds a very like No, he

560
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:04.039
<v Speaker 1>did not have any idea. He was not escorted from

561
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the building. In case you are thinking he was escorted

562
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>from the building for stalking, that's not true. Left on

563
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>his own accord.

564
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm making up by the way, I was trying to

565
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.039
<v Speaker 2>get on chat GBT like ask it because you can say,

566
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>like you know, find what exactly he did, like what

567
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 2>SO would start to show me, and every time I

568
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 2>would show me what not show me the video, but like,

569
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 2>try to tell me what they saw. It now goes

570
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:31.160
<v Speaker 2>away and it says this content cannot be shown for

571
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 2>safety reasons. This content cannot be shown for sait That's

572
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:35.759
<v Speaker 2>how bad it is that chat GBT can't even tell me.

573
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.079
<v Speaker 2>So I wrote, was he naked? And it says, yes,

574
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:40.799
<v Speaker 2>he was naked, and then it disappeared this content cannot

575
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:43.000
<v Speaker 2>be shown. I'm like, well, I don't want to see it.

576
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm just asking you for the facts. And it's really

577
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.359
<v Speaker 2>hard to find. It's being taken down no matter where

578
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>because it's so like whatever it was was so insane.

579
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, what I heard is he was completely naked,

580
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:59.279
<v Speaker 2>he was groaning, and then he started just flashing himself

581
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 2>to where there's just blood everywhere.

582
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:05.839
<v Speaker 1>Like So, in conclusion, what do we think?

583
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:06.279
<v Speaker 2>What?

584
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Like what's our take? Like do we think he's already

585
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:12.079
<v Speaker 1>mentally ill? Do we think he or are we buying this?

586
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.359
<v Speaker 2>I think he was already mentally ill. I think it's

587
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:19.599
<v Speaker 2>a number of things. Maybe it's the sepsist psychosis, but

588
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 2>I've never really heard of someone doing I think sepsist

589
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.000
<v Speaker 2>psychosis makes you like when you're in the hospital you're

590
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>not sleeping, you have subsists, and maybe you're you're maybe hallucinating.

591
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe those things can be true like what happened before,

592
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.000
<v Speaker 2>but I just don't think that six months later that

593
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.480
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be going to that extreme because of that,

594
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. People are saying it's possible, but my guess,

595
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Okham's razor here would be that it's either just a

596
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>psychotic break, unrelated and or drugs.

597
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>So some people are saying some are saying beautiful, people

598
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>are saying, Okay, so this person wrote, and you might

599
00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:59.359
<v Speaker 1>have even seen this comment, but I'm gonna leave. I'm

600
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna read it because it's interesting. I hate to see

601
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>anyone going through this. He's clearly a tortured soul. I

602
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.039
<v Speaker 1>did watch the videos from the hospital after sepsis where

603
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>he had religious revelations, and it was clear he wasn't

604
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>mentally well. I did not watch the video of self harming.

605
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:18.039
<v Speaker 1>I hope I never see it, but I can't help

606
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 1>but also think, well, this is the karma thing, which

607
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:24.519
<v Speaker 1>is not helpful. Then he says the breaking straw for

608
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>me was the treatment of Britney Murphy and her family

609
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>after her death.

610
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:28.559
<v Speaker 2>I was sickened.

611
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 1>So but I say that because then this goes on

612
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>to say perhaps, in his deluded mind, he thinks he

613
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.799
<v Speaker 1>deserves the shame and ridicule. Oh shit, and that's why

614
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.559
<v Speaker 1>he was not only self harming, but naked and doing

615
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it in front of the world. He's self flagellating in

616
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 1>attempts to wash away his sins. Sadly, shame and self

617
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:55.319
<v Speaker 1>harm will never rectify past actions or heal his soul.

618
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 1>We've all done things that we regret or have hurt others,

619
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and we wish we could take back. But you have

620
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 1>to do what you can to learn, make peace and

621
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:06.880
<v Speaker 1>do better. There are no take backsies. I bet his

622
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:10.799
<v Speaker 1>self hatred. Maybe his quote come to Jesus moment has

623
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 1>made looking at himself unbearable, or maybe it's just the

624
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>mental illness or both. If he's ever stabilized mentally, this

625
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>will be extremely hard to live with mentally.

626
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<v Speaker 1>And then it says side note, wasn't his original site

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<v Speaker 2>Another layer to.

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<v Speaker 1>Reckoning it's. INTERESTING i hope he heals, physically goes into deep,

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<v Speaker 1>impatient finds a great, therapist gets on a drug regimen that,

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<v Speaker 1>Shootings, yeah, yes where's our reverence for, like, uh not

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<v Speaker 2>also you, know, yeah we want to respect the person

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<v Speaker 2>going through this horrible, thing who probably is ultimately not

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<v Speaker 2>yeah there are a lot of people that are seriously

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<v Speaker 1>So in, conclusion maybe he feels really bad and has

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<v Speaker 2>we don't. Know we just needed to talk about it

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