Speaker 1: Dirty hands means queen theology.
Speaker 2: Can you dig in?
Speaker 3: What is going on?
Speaker 1: All my local guys and gals and long distance pals.
We are back back in the saddle again.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I tell you I'm excited for this today,
extremely excited. We got a very special guest with us,
someone that we just got to meet in person only
a few months back back in July into July. We
have a pastor, author inspired speaker, has unbelievable knowledge and
goes back to the context of the true Hebrew, which
is something that we all really can appreciate because we
need to understand the context of the Bible. So, without
further ado, I'd like to introduce our guest. Carl Gallups
is with us today and I am beyond excited. I'll
be honest with you. I've known about you for a
very long time because even my dad followed a lot
of your work. So it is great to have you
and thank you for being here.
Speaker 3: Justin Steve. First of all, thank you guys for having me.
And I did enjoy being with you guys in Ohio
and we did an interview there and I really enjoyed that.
Love getting to know you guys, and I'm honored that
you have me on tonight. So thank you, thank you
very much, and thank you for the kind things you
said about me. I'll send the check to you next
tomorrow something like that. Yeah, okay, for.
Speaker 1: Those who don't know, before we got started recording, Steve
got him good and primed up and was just you know,
showering him with compliments. So he's ready to go, now,
ain't you called?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all yeah, it's all about me, right, yeah,
I'm kidding. No, it's all about Jesus, your shuahamashiak and Hebrew.
And I know you guys are rare and to go.
Speaker 2: So quet Carl, why don't you open this in prayer
and then we'll kind of, you know, we'll see where
the Holy Spirit takes us today.
Speaker 3: I will justin Steve, Yeah, I will. I will open
it in Hebrew, and I will interpret it right after
I speak it, and I will close it in Hebrew.
And and so I don't want to take the whole
time praying the whole thing in Hebrew because we'd be
here forever translating back and forth. So I will just
do that and I will speak the middle part in English.
But you know, I just Hebrews chapter twelve says that
the Word of God is living and active and sharper
than any too ed sword. And I'm just telling you
there's something about praying in the original Hebrew language of
the Word of God, something about I often do this
and my services in the church that I pastor, and
I'll often read scriptures in Hebrew translating into English over
my congregation in a prayer time, and there's something very
powerful about it. And it's just it's God's word that
he gave the prophecies, you know, and everything to us through.
So I just want your audience to know that that
that that's what I'm going to do. So let me
just begin. We'll have a quick word of prayer together.
Brukshim Kahu male ulam hamotse kai Ulamlnai. Blessed is your name,
our Lord, our God, King of the universe. You are
the one that gives us eternal life. Be you Ahama
shiakh In Jesus Christ, Our Lord, I Donna, I thank you,
Oh Lord Father. I thank you for this time that
we can be together as friends and brothers. We look
forward to speaking about your word, and I pray that
it does not fall on deaf. I pray that people
would have eyes to see and ears to hear, and
that you would touch lives, bring people to you, set
captives free. And I also pray for the return of prodigals.
I pray that it would all happen tonight. As we
exalt your word and exalt your name. Be shim Ya
shu ahamashiak i donna batahinnu a nah in the name
of Jesus Christ, our Lord. We trust you, our faith,
this is in you, in your name. We pray. Amen. Amen,
Thank you, guys, thank you.
Speaker 2: That is powerful. You are one hundred percent right. That
is powerful. And it just it adds. I mean, that's
like you said, that's the language it was given to
and yeah, yeah, in a difficult times. So we appreciate that.
That's the first. That's the first on this show for sure.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Okay, well, thank you. I'm honored. I'm honored.
One of my main ministry partners is Messianic Rabbi Zev Parat.
He lives in Tel Aviv. He's under bombardment. Yeah, he's
a great guy. He's under bombardment right now. I just
got off talking with him and was on the phone
with him earlier had five missiles come right over his house,
exploding in the air. They've been in bomb shelters. It's
just really heating up over there. So he would love
your prayers and lift him up in prayer and lift
Israel up in prayer. But anyway, so you know, I'm
pretty good with languages. God has given me a gift
of that. I speak conversational Spanish and I'm able to
pray and read Scripture and Hebrew, So thank you Lord
for that. But he helps me a lot. He's my
Hebrew teacher. So if I don't know a word or
I think I'm not saying it correctly, and I do misspeak,
but hey, I misspeak English all the time, ain't that right, y'all?
So anyway, anyway, but thank you for your kind words.
Looking forward to this. What you guys want to talk about?
Speaker 2: Well, actually, it's funny we were talking. I was talking
to my father Ben right before we started this show,
and I was telling him about your new book Eyes
to See, and I thought that was such a cool
title because how many times it says, you know, Jesus says,
you know, if they have eyes to see and ears
to hear you know this is this is there's a
very kind of underlying context. To me, the way that
I've seen that is, you know, God will lift that
veil for you over a certain time, for you to
be able to see certain things at certain times. And
there's certain biblical truths that we all. You know, what
God has shown you is different than what God has
shown me at times. But I'd like you to dive
in a little bit. We went over the issue of
protocol last time with you when we did that interview,
and you broke down and showed us, you know, Jesus
on the cross between two other crosses right in the
first sentence of the Bible, which to me still is
it gives me chills when you say it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. And let me explain that for your audience,
because they're thinking, what are you talking about three crosses
in the first verse, Well, it's all in my book.
You show a protocol and then I take that and
I'm going to explain to your audience how that is.
But I'm just going to say, I take that in
the book and show you how that same pattern is
found in Psalm twenty two, Isaiah fifty three Zachariah twelve.
All of those are crucifixion passages. Genesis twenty two, Isaac
taking Abraham taking his son Isaac to sacrifice him, and
the very place that Jesus would later be sacrificed, and
that same picture, that same pattern. Now the picture is
found in the Paleo Hebrew language, that is, the ancient
language in which the scriptures were written. This is how
it came to us in the tanachh the Old Testament.
It came to us in that Paleo Hebrew. Now, the
interesting thing, the Paleo Hebrew had different shapes of letters
than we have now in the modern Hebrew. All the
same letters, just different shapes. The early ones looked almost
like hieroglyphic forms will or pictures, pictographs. They look like
like the first letter is alaf, the last letter is tov,
and so the alaph looked like the shape of an oxhead.
Why was that, well, that was the first letter. Why
would that be first, and why would they do an oxhead?
Because in that culture, thousands of years ago, an ox
was like a four wheel drive pickup and a John
Deere tractor. And if you had an ox or a
herd of oxen. You were wealthy, you were rich, you
were powerful. You know, an ox was a powerful creature.
It could pull wagons, it could plow fields, that could
uproot trees with straps tied to it. I mean, it
was just an amazing animal in a low tech culture. Yeah,
that's the book that it's in. And so the oxhead,
now that came to be known down through ancient history
right into modern history. The first letter represents God himself.
God says that he said, I'm the first in the last,
the beginning in the end, and he says that three
times in Isaiah, and then Jesus of course says i
am the first in the last, the beginning in the end.
The alpha and the omega that's Greek, but in Hebrew
he would say that Alah and the taw all right. Now,
So each letter of the Hebrew language also had what
are called idiograms, that is, ideas that went with those letters,
those singular letters haatz hairatz excuse me. The New York
Times of Israel they rent an article in twenty thirteen
talking about the amazing Hebrew language, and one of the
things they said was that many people don't know, but
the ancient Hebrew each letter had an ideal with it,
and the writer of that article said, it still is
that way. Those ideas have held all these thousands of years,
they said, but it's not important to know because you
don't really use it in your writing or you're reading.
But it's it's interesting, and it's very interesting to note. Well,
it surely is. It's more than interesting. But anyway, in
my book you show a protocol, I show that, and
in Eyes to See I continue it forward with amazing
revelations about the language. But both of these books deal
with much more than the Hebrew language. It deals with
science and archaeology and the Word of God and making
connections that are just astounding. But back to what you
were saying, So that ancient Hebrew letter ALF looked like
an oxhead the last letter, because remember God says I'm
the first and the last the beginning. In the end,
Jesus says that the last letter is the top. The
ancient paleo look of that letter was a perfect crucifixion cross,
and it was, and it was, and it leans just
a little bit to the right if you're looking right
at it, almost like it's a cross that's underweight. Now
detractors are all over the internet saying no, no, no,
it was an X, it was a plus sign. That's
not true. If you guys, remember I showed you a
picture of an actual archaeological find from Hezekias Tunnel, the
Soloa inscription. It's eight hundred BC, one of the oldest
actual archaeological pieces we have, with a letter written on it,
filled with the Hebrew the Paleo Hebrew letters, and it's
the oldest thing we have. And sure enough, the top
is in a perfect crucifixion cross with a little bit underweight.
I mean, it's just unbelievable. So what happens when you
go to the first verse beshit barrah e luhim et
hashamaym veet harets In the beginning God created the heavens
and the earth, and the deal is and it goes
way deeper than this. But I don't want this whole
show to be about that. But the bottom line is
that in that sentence of seven words seven meaning complete
seven days of creation, actually six days, but on the
seventh day rested. Everything is about seven. All the way
through the Book of Revelation has fifty mentions of the
number seven or seventy or seven times seven. I mean,
it's all through the Word of God, and it always
points to something that's com divinely complete. The first verse
has seven Hebrew words, and right in the middle is
the word et. That's a left taw and it is
a Hebrew grammar pointer. And that could get a little
deep and long winded here, but I'm just saying, but
it's found eleven thousand times in the Old Testament as
a grammar pointer. We don't have that grammar pointer. It's
called the accusative case grammar pointer. It points the action
of the verb to what happened, like when it says
betshit barrah eluhim et Well in Hebrew, what that says
is in the beginning created God. Well that in English
that sounds like something a big bang happened and God
was created, you know. But in Hebrew they have a
grammar marker because they you know, they put verbs and
nouns and adjectives and nouns different than we do then
we speak. And a lot of languages do that. And
Hebrew has this accusative case grammar marker where and it's
just the first in the last letter alft tall but
that's interesting because that's what God says he is. He said,
I am the Aleph and the tall okay. And then
the New Testament, of course, you know, we have Jesus
saying the same thing. He's identifying I'm God in the flesh.
I'm the Word that became flesh, all right. But the
point is, eleven thousand times has found Well, there are
a thousand pages in the Old Testament. That means an
average of eleven times per page. You find the et
the A left taw and almost always it's a grammar marker.
But it's more than that. It's like where you find
it often is just astounding. As I'm getting getting ready
to bring the crescendo to this and we'll move on.
But it's astounding because it's the letter alafh, you know,
is an oxhead, but the TV is a crucifixion cross. Now,
the meaning of the Oliph is God himself, God Almighty.
Why he's the first, he's the strongest, he's the most valuable,
like an Ox was thousands and thousands of years ago,
and so that was a perfect example. He's strong, he's mighty,
he's gentle. The face of an Ox looks almost like
a human in the eyes, in the in the mouth area,
just kind of kind of gentle and meek. But yet
they can drag a tree up by its roots. And
and you know, so this represented God the al el
that's the that's the sound of it, El shadai l
adel nai l roe or that begins all things and
he yes, that's it. That's it now. But the TV,
the last letter in the shape of a cross, has
always represented the word a covenant, the mark, the sign. Now,
when you put those two words together, what are those meanings?
Tell you God will on the cross become our sign,
our mark. He will make the covenant with us. And
we learn later that is through the blood of the
Lamb that was slain before the foundation of the world,
the blood of Jesus God, who makes the covenant with
us on a cross. That I mean, so in the
first verse there it is right in the middle. Now
it's an accusative case grammar marker, because what the Hebrews says,
it says in the beginning created God. But the et
is there that points to, well, what did God create
the heavens and the earth? You see how that works.
We don't have to do that in English, because the
way our language is formulated, we just put the words
in their proper order. So when the English translations, it
doesn't say in the beginning created God the heavens and
the earth. It says, in the beginning God created the
heavens and the earth. Does that make sense? The deal?
When you look at that sentence, there are only three
tovs in it, and in a beautiful symmetry, you drop
them down better sheath you hear it. It's kind of
a th sound. Sheath better sheath there it is. You
drop that down in the first word. At there it is,
you drop that down in the second word, or the
second the second cross, if you will, all right, at
the toav there's a cross and a cross, and then
you go down to that which means and and there's
another one. And you look look, and it's a perfect
three crosses in the middle. The middle cross is et
I left Taw. Jesus said, I am the ole of Taw.
God himself says in Isaiah, I am the ole of Taw.
So what we have is a picture of Golgatha with
Jesus in the middle of three crosses in the first
verse that you can see with your eyes. Now, people say, well,
that's a coincidence, that's looking for bunny rabbits in the clouds. No. No,
it's all through the Old Testament in the most astounding places,
and usually centered around anything that has to do with
the crucifixion of Jesus. It's a sign, it's a marker
that was meant to be exposed in these last days,
and people have known it. Ancient Hebrews have seen this,
but they didn't know anything about the cross until Jesus died,
and then they rejected him and rejected that as our salvation,
so they just kind of sleft it off. Well, that
doesn't mean anything. But those of us that are born again,
we look at it. Not only do we see it
in the first verse with Jesus in the middle, the
Aleftah in the middle, God in the middle making a
covenant on the cross, which is what those two letters
have always meant when you put them together. But then
you find that same pattern in the first verse of
Psalm twenty two, the verse that Jesus quoted, my God,
my God, why have you forsaken me? And is found
in Isaiah fifty two. In Isaiah fifty two to ten,
It's found in Isaiah fifty three, two or three different
places the three crosses. The three crosses in a sentence
that talks about the crucifixion of this suffering one. It's
found in Zachariah twelve that says, and on that day
you will look upon me whom you have pierced, but
you will mourn for him as an only son. It's
found there is found in Genesis twenty two where Isaac
Abraham is taking Isaac to offer him as a sacrifice.
Isaac carries the wood on his back. It says Abraham,
who's like picture of God. Isaac's a picture of the
son of God, if you will. And Isaac is going
to sacrifice his son, and God tells him, sacrifice your son,
your one and only son, whom you love. Those words
come right out of the New Testament, and that's how
God describes his sacrifice the Messiah. And so you find
the three crosses two or three places in that whole chapter,
and they're in the words of you know, I'm going
to sacrifice him. Where's the here's the knife from the fire,
but where's the lamb? I mean, there's three crosses, And
you look and you go my gosh, So it goes
on and on and on. In my book I used
to see. I even go into the New Testament, and
I use a highly renowned a couple of highly renowned
Hebrew translations of the New Testament. I mean used by
scholars for hundreds of years, used by scholars and seminaries
and Hebrew speaking researchers of the New Testament. And so
I go through the entire hire New Testament. And I
don't put all of them in my book, that would
be too laborious. But almost everywhere where the scriptures speak
of the crucifixion of Jesus and what he did on Calvary,
three crosses in Hebrew, even in the New Testament.
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Speaker 3: It's just impossible. I mean, if I found it in
Genesis one you could say, wow, that's an amazing coincidence.
But you know, just looking for bunny rabbits in the
sky and in the clouds, and that's one time. No,
it's everywhere, and it's everywhere where you would think it
would be. But it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be like that.
Who would do that? I mean no, no human being
could code all of that in there right through to
the last chapter, some of the last words of Revelation,
from the first verse of Genesis to the last words
of Revelation, the three crosses are there. Well, what's the
whole word of God ultimately about? Jesus crucifixion between two
thieves and resurrection to bring us salvation and to restore
the world, the creation to the throne of God in heaven.
Jesus taught us to pray our Father, who is in heaven,
Holy is your name. But here's what we pray, Thy Kingdom,
Come Lord. Thy will be done on earth one day
as it is in heaven right now. And so that's
what God Gotha was all about. That's what those brosses
are all about. That's coming out in my new book
that's after Eyes to See Now, Eyes to see what
I do with that is and many other things. But
since we're on this topic of the three crosses, I
go back to Genesis one and I take the first
word bad as sheet. And this is just one of
about ten revelations like this that that I start off with. Yeah, yeah,
it's unbelievable. But you start off with the first word
beat as sheet. That in English, it translates to three
words in the beginning. Rashid in Hebrew is the beginning,
but bah bah means in bah rashid. If I close
my prayer with uh beshim yashuahamashik bah in shim the
name of Jesus christahamashik. See you hear the inn inn
is like a. It's it's it's a. It's the first
letter with we would put like an apostrophe, and then
the rest of it. But it makes one word bat
rashiet okay, in that first word. There are only six
Hebrew letters. Hebrew is a very difficult language because it
deals in root words, and then the roots are changed
by the vowel markers. But a lot of roots are
the same. English has words like that too, but we
don't have to go through the difficulty of vowel markers.
We just use vowels. Hebrew has no vowels, but it
does have vowel sounds that come with the consonant letters.
But you have to know and so you have the markers.
But anyway, when you look at this word, there are
only six Hebrew letters. And now think of this, but
what you find in that first word, and by the way,
that first letter is magnified. It's like a capital, but
Hebrew has no capital letters. That capital, that magnified letter
is found I think fifteen seventeen times in the Tanakh.
And even today the modern rabbis, the ancient rabbis, the
modern Orthodox rabbis say when you see one of.
Speaker 1: Those labels copy that that's what drop caps were. They weren't.
That's pretty little twisty letters. They were imitating the old Tanak.
Speaker 3: Well, that's right and so so. But what happened was
even modern rabbis will tell you that they believe this
is a sign from God's throne. This is God's living word.
Whenever you see what I'm going to call a capital,
it's a magnified letter. It's not a capital, because not
every sentence starts that way. Proper nouns don't have capitals.
They just say the word, and then you know what
it is. All right. Now, watch the first letter of
the first word in the first verse of the first
book of the Bible is magnified, which means that there's
something about that first word. And that first verse the
rabbi say, God is directing you and saying, there's something
important about this. Well, my whole book, you show a protocol,
shows you, yeah, what's important. In that first verse, there's
a picture of Golgatha, there's a picture of Calvary with
Jesus on the cross. And then you search out the
Old Testament, you discover, oh my gosh, it's in many
places this speak of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ that
is to come thousands of years in their future. But
there it is coded there. Now, the surface text is fine,
you don't need to know this stuff to be saved
or to live for Jesus. But when you go it's
like multi dimensional. It's like looking at DNA. We don't
have to know that we're made of DNA to enjoy
our life. But once you know you're made of DNA,
and then how it works, and boy, I go into
that in eyes to see and what is lying deep
there that just is mind blowing. But anyway, but it's
the same thing with God's word. The surface text is fine,
that was God's word given. You don't need to know
all this other stuff to be saved and to live
for the Lord Jesus Christ. But if you do know
this other stuff, it just brings the word of life,
and it just helps you to know. No other book
on the planet does these kinds of things that I
catalog in my books. You shoe a Protocol is to
see and then this book coming out, but early twenty
twenty five, no other book in the world does. I'm
not here to disparage any other faith system. That's between
them and their creator and their conscious But I'm telling
you the Quran has nothing like this. The Hindu vedis
nothing like this, The teachings of writings of Buddha nothing
like this. The Nostradamus nothing like this, the astrology charts
nothing like this. The whole gobbledegook so called science of
evolution and atheism nothing like this. And that book is
thousands of years old still to this day, the best
selling book on the planet, and it's the only book
that tells fifty times of an Israel being returned in
the last days, three thousand years before it happened. We're
the first generation to see it happen. It's the only
book that lines out the exact nations that will form
a coalition and come against that return to Israel led
by Iran Persia. It says that's what Persia was called
until nineteen thirty five, and then it lists the other
nations that are attached to it. They're all attached to
Iran right now. What's happening October seventh, last year, and
now even now it's raging, wherein the throes of the
beginning of that prophecy being fulfilled?
Speaker 1: On and on.
Speaker 3: I can go with these things that are impossible to
be in that ancient book, but they're there. It's impossible
for the picture of God Gotha to be on the
first sentence, Well, why would God do that? Jesus is
the Lamb slain before the beginning of the earth. So
in that first sentence, this speaks of the beginning. There's
a picture of it. Now you come to that first word,
and here's the deal. In that first word, not a
letter scramble like you take my name and take all
the letters and then move them around and get well,
I got fourteen other words here. Yeah, but you had
to move this letter here, in this letter, here, in
this letter here, and there's a word. But I'm talking
about the first two letters, the first three letters of
better sheet. Remember there's only six the first four letters,
the last four, the last three, the last two, the
first and the last, the first two and the last.
I mean you look at these patterns in symmetrical chunks,
not a letter scramble. There are eleven other Hebrew words
that are used in the Old Testament. I've got all
this catalog and eyes to see you can see it
with your eyes, and you show a protocol, I have
like forty two illustrations that you can see with your eyes.
In eyes to See, I've got I don't know fifteen
sixteen more illustrations that you can see with your eyes,
not just hearing me talk about it. Plus I reference
all of this back to scholars and Hebrew language experts
and people that know this stuff. And so it's not
just me. I'm not making this up. I'm not pulling
it out of my back pocket. It's there. Do with it.
What you want. People say, I don't believe it, Well, okay,
then you don't have eyes to see, because you can
look at it and there it is. And it connects
with all these other verses in the same pattern. And
now I'm going to show them my next book. It
connects all the way through the New Testament in exactly
where you would expect it to be. But I'll say this,
and then we can move on to anything else you want.
But this is important in ice to see. I show
those eleven words, and in their order, it communicates a
paragraph or two of who we are, what God's up to,
who Jesus is, That he will die on a cross,
he will restore the world back to its order. All
those Hebrew words tell that story. Now watch this in
case people saying, well, you're just kind of fooling with words,
No I'm not. It's in order. The letters are in
a pattern to make words. Those words are used in
the Old Testament. They're not just some obscure words that
Hebrews use every now and then when they speak. No,
it's all through. Those words are all through the Old Testament.
This is not made up stuff. But then I say,
and in the New Testament and Colossians chapter one. In
five verses, verse fifteen through verse twenty Colossians chapter one,
Paul begins, and you'll know this, Jesus is the image
of the invisible God, and by him the universe was made.
All things that were made were made by him and
for him. What's Paul talking about? The beginning the creation?
And he goes on to finish it with and by
his blood shed on Calvary's cross, we have been reconciled
to God and everything in between all in him, all
things hold together. He's the foundation. He's the pillar of
the church and the foundation of the covenant House of God.
That's what Colossian says. Guess what those eleven Hebrew words
say in order. It says that, in fact, many of
the words in our English translations are the exact words
that are in the first word. Some of them are
synonyms only because we're translating from Hebrew to Greek or
to Latin to Greek to English, and so, but if
you don't see the exact word that's in, you'll see
the synonym right there in front of you. In other words,
Paul knew this somehow, either the resurrect of Jesus showed
it to him, or the Holy Spirit of God just
inspired him, and he wrote it not even knowing what
he is writing. But he's writing the message that's in
the first word of the Bible. Guys, and all of
this is exposed and nice to see. I took a
long time. I'm so sorry, but this is interesting stuff.
And you, guys, I saw it with your eyes in conference,
so you know what I'm talking about. You know this
is not made up. I'm not lying. It's there and
it's for good man.
Speaker 1: It's like even the first seven generations, the names, the
Hebrew names, you take the root of their names. It
tells the story of salvation in Christ. It says, the
man appointed mortal sorrow comes.
Speaker 3: Down, and that's the genealogy of Noah. Yeah, you go there.
Speaker 1: You take those seven guys in order, and it tells
the story of salvation in Christ coming down and dying
for our sins.
Speaker 3: It does. Yeah, I mean things like this are in
the scriptures in your show protocol, I list about twenty
scriptures that say things like and I'm just gonna paraphrase,
and they all say the same kind of thing. I
the Lord God am the Revealer of mysteries. I hide
things until it's time to expose them. And I do
this for my children that they will know that I
am God. I mean, he tells us that he hides
these things. Oh, about a dozen times in the Old
Testament he says these kinds of things about what he's
in the midst of. Now, when you get to the
New Testament, you hear the apostle Paul sayd behold, I
tell you a mystery. And then it'll be about the rapture.
And then he says another mystery. Then he says it's
Christ in us, and then he talks about that. I'll
tell you another mystery. If the rulers of this age
had only known, they would not have crucified the son
of God. I tell you another mystery. So what's Paul doing.
He's revealing things that he's now seeing in the scriptures
and has now seen on Calvary's cross and the resurrection.
He lived during the Christ's event, and he says it
was all there in the Bible all along, It was
in the Tanakh. How are we Jews missing this? And
so that's why Paul says, over and over, I tell
you a mystery. I tell you a mystery. I tell
you a mystery because God was revealing it to him.
And I'm telling you the Lord has been giving me
downloads and heard a lot of it with Zev and
I check up with him. I said, am I am
I wrong? Here? Am I reading the Hebrew correctly? Am
I seeing these letters correctly? In these symbols? He was
blown away. He's knew some of it, but other stuff
that I uncovered, I just don't have time to say
it here. But it's in the book, he said, Oh,
my gosh. In fact, he even made a discovery while
we were on the phone one day about the first
verse of Psalm twenty two. It's the verse that Jesus
spoke on the cross, My God, My God, why have
you forsaken me? And in that verse he screams out
over the phone and he said, oh my gosh, not
only are the three crosses there, but look, the name
of Jesus is buried right in the middle of another word.
It's like badashet, you know, it's it's one word in Hebrew,
but three words in English. But we in English have
some words. I can't think of one right now. But well, Carolina,
well there's North carolina. But in the middle of that word,
or in that word, is the word carol. Okay, carol okay.
Well that's a simple thing, of course, there's a yeah.
Well Hebrew has words like that too. But in the
middle of one of those words, why are you so
far from helping me? So far from helping me? That's
one word in Hebrew in the middle is you sheen
wah I en exactly how y shoe uh is spelled
the name of Jesus. You'd sheen what I en? His
name also means yeah, salvation and so so I mean
in the first verse. That's why Jesus spoke it to
direct their attention to Psalm twenty two, where it says
they have pierced my hands on my feet. They gamble
for my clothing under my feet. They say he saved
others they mock me and stare. My tongue sticks to
the roof of my mouth. I thirst. And the last
words of Psalm twenty two say, and God has done
it another word words it is finished. The last words
Jesus spoke. He was directing them to that his name
is in the first verse, and zev who speaks Hebrew
is his first language. A deep study studier of the
Word of God. He told me, said, I've never seen
this before. It just jumped off the page and slapped
me in the face. It's another word, but in the
middle of it is Jesus Name, and that's the verse
he quoted. And I said, well, let me get on
the internet and see if anybody else has seen this.
To this day, I haven't found that anybody else has
seen it. Now, I'm not saying Zev discovered it, and
in my book, I'm revealing something nobody has ever seen.
I don't claim to be that guy, but God could
use this that way. But the bottom line is it's
now exposed in that book, and thanks to technology and
shows like yours, it's being exposed more. Your show will
be archived at the conferences and stuff I do, or
archive my preaching sermons. I preach on this stuff to
my people in my church. It's archive. The whole world
is beginning to see what has been there for thousands
of years and nobody knew it, just like the three crosses.
I mean, people have found those before me. That's what
started me. I read some website I saw that. I said,
how can that be? And I Dug and Doug and
I said, oh, my gosh, and then my mind. The
download God gave me was go look at the other
crucifixion passages in the Old Testament. See what you find.
And I just I was dumbfounded. I kept finding that
same pattern, three crosses, three crosses, three crosses, three crosses.
And then Zev finds in the first verse, the verse
that Jesus speaks on the cross right before he dies.
His name is in it, and there are three crosses.
It's pretty cool stuff, isn't it. Guys.
Speaker 2: I just gotta say, I wish you were actually passionate
about this.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, I know, I wish I was
to I beat myself up all the time because I
don't get excited enough.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. And it's that stuff where that veils kind
of lifted right, like you're having those revelations. Like you said, Paul,
these things God has shared with you, and it's it's
an important thing because God gives us those things for
us to share.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he does, go ahead. Yeah. And the
thing about it is is that I don't write these
books just because they're sensational. Listen, it is sensational God's
word is sensational. I'm not a sensational list. I'm just
reporting what is and then putting graphics in my books
so you can see it with your eyes. You make
of it what you want. You say, Well, all of
this is one big coincidence. It's kind of like evolution.
Eight billion people and seventeen million species of life that
just hanging on a ball in space and the ecosystem
just happens to work. We're perfectly situated from the sun,
perfectly one. If we were a little closer, we'd burn up.
We're a little further, we'd turn into an ice berg.
But that's all just a coincidence. It's just no intelligence, nothing,
It just happened just there. Well, that's ridiculous. It doesn't
even come close to making sense, statistical sense, or anything else.
That's the same thing with this. I put it in
these books not to be a sensationalist, but I'm pointing
people to the sensational word of God. You can trust
that word. You can trust Jesus Christ. He says he's
coming back. He's coming back, And so I just tell
people keep your eyes on the Lord, live for him.
The word of God is living it's active. All of
these things are being revealed. Israel came back. God said,
that'll be my sign to the world. And then nations,
And I'm won't tell you who the nations are because
when you see it, you will know there's no other
place where this is written and has written thousands of years.
And the generation that sees it will say, oh my gosh,
look at this. The Bible was right and we're living
in the midst of it. You know what's said. Most
churches in America don't know or don't preach any of
the stuff we're talking about right now, including Israel's existence
in the Middle East as a sign from God. Between
Deuteronomy and Zachariah, there are fifty prophecies about the return
of Israel and that it is God's sign to the
world in the last days. That is getting close to
the restitution of all things.
Speaker 2: You don't want to get me going on the state
of the church right now. It's a very sad thing
across the country, and it's it's something that we've actually
kind of taken a pretty big stance on lately, something
we've talked a lot about lately, and I I'm just
worried about where things are going? And how many you know,
how many times does Jesus say in the New Testament?
How many times did he how many times did he
worn against false teachings? How many times did you know,
Paul Peter, you know John, they wrote about beware of
false teachers. Yeah, this is something that is a recurring theme.
Speaker 3: Doctrines of demons, doctor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, doctrines of men, doctrines of demons. And it says
specifically that we are Oh, how was I going to
say that? The I mean, ultimately, every time Jesus is angry,
every time Jesus is angry in the New Testament, who's
he angry at.
Speaker 3: The religious leaders, the religious elite? Yep.
Speaker 2: And that is where we're at in our country right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And in so many churches you've got isms and schisms.
They fight over a pre trib, mid trip, post trib,
over what version of the Bible you use, on and
on and on, and what Jesus said to the Pharisees
about doing that same thing, trying to put God in
a box and declaring, I know what I'm talking about.
Jesus said, unto them, you are nullifying the word of
God by holding to your traditions. You are making your
followers twice the sons of hell that you are. Your
father is the devil. That's what Jesus said to the
religion elite. It's why when Nicodemus came to him that
night and says, good teacher, Nicodemus was a good guy.
Nicodemus and Joseph of Vermathea were both on the Sanhedrin Council.
They were the two that were opposed to the crucifixion,
opposed to it all. They went to get his body
down and give a decent burial in a rich man's
tomb Joseph's. That could have cost them their lives. That
would have been considered blasphemy treason to the Sanhedrin council.
I believe those two guys were saved at that point.
But Nicodemus came to Jesus early on in his ministry
and he called him, good teacher. He said, we know
that you must have come from God. The miracles you do,
the things you say. Jesus stopped him, and he said, Nicodemus,
no one comes unto the Father unless they're born again.
You say, well, that had nothing to do with what Nicodemus.
Yes it did. He was telling him, Nicodemus, you can
talk all that religious talk you want. You can lean
on all of your traditions and your position and the
badges on your chest. You need to be born again
or you will not enter the Kingdom of heaven. I
know you're a teacher of Israel, a renowned teacher, but
that does not make you saved. That's what Jesus said
to him. And he was one of the ones that
came and got the cross at the risk of him
losing his life over it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now I want to go back a little bit to
what you said before, and you were talking about how
people think about things as coincidences, right, you always have this,
and Derek Gilbert has one of the favorite phrases that
we like to always point out. He says, there's no
such thing as coincidences. There are God incidences, and I
think that's just a great thing. And Justin says that
all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, we use that not a coincidence theorist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So I do want to ask you a little more
that Justin, you brought this up earlier. If you'd like
to talk about it, you would talk to Derek in
the past A little bit weird because what you're doing
is kind of you know, you're deciphering basically a Bible
code through the Hebrew language. Now, there is books that
I think it was Michael Drozen that wrote a couple
of books.
Speaker 3: On the Yeah, I actually talk about him. I quote
him and your Sure Protocol, The Good, the Bad, and
the Ugly. I mean, he did some stupid things and
mess things up a lot, and I talk about that,
but he did find some things that no one had
found before that are in yeah.
Speaker 2: For people out there, because we've had people even ask
us on our show to kind of dive into that.
And I've tried to read those books, and I'll be
honest there, it's a tough read for me. That's that's
not something that that I can It's not written the
way that I consume materials. If that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can put it in layman's terms.
Speaker 2: I would love for you to explain that.
Speaker 3: I will, and I do that in my book You're
Sure a Protocol. I warn people that what I'm getting
ready to tell you this is not the The Bible's
not meant to be a Ouiji board or crystal Ball,
and Drosnen kind of made it into that. Drosden was
a Jewish man who was I think he was with
the Washington Post of the New York Times or something.
He was a reporter. He heard about these Israeli computer scientists,
Israeli linguists, expert linguist of the Hebrew language and all that,
that they were building a program that would do what's
called ELS exploration. It stands for equal distance letter spacing.
I'll explain that in the moment. It really is not
that difficult to comprehend. I can bring it at a
layman's level, and I do that in my book. I've
got four or five chapters on this, simply to show
that there are things hidden in God's word. People say, well,
you can find the same things in a telephone book
if you look some things. Yeah, but again it's like
where you find some of these things, They are found
in the passages that you would think they would be.
I mean, believably so and so. So it is fascinating,
but you have to be careful because what Drosnin did
it was like the Seven Sons of Skiva. He was
watching Paul deliver people in the name of Jesus, and
so they said, we want some of that, give us
that power. Well Drosnen felt for the same thing he discovers. Well,
he didn't discover it. He did a story and then
wrote a book about these folks and the people that
were doing it. And the scientists they ran all kinds
of statistical analysis on what are the chances of this,
and they were impossible. They ran all the computer analysis
and they came back with the mathematical formulas. Impossible. But
there it is, just like the three crosses in the
first verse, and then you find them all throughout where
they should be. But that's not a code, a computer code.
That's a language code. It's always been in that language.
They just didn't know until the cruciffexion to even look.
I mean, they just see the letter TAV like we
would see the letter z it so the last let oh,
we don't put any particular attachment to that, But now
we do. And now we see it in all of
the passages about the crucifixion of Jesus, and it's like,
oh my gosh, that was there all along. So Els
is like this and here's what was discovered. And again,
people can get the book I do not have programs
on my computer where I look for words with the els,
because you can get into Ouiji board, crystal ball kind
of stuff. But Drosnen began saying, look, I can predict
the future with this book. If I just know what
to look for, I can put words in into the
program and see if there's a word, I can put
other words and see if there's sentences that explain what's
going to happen in the future. I mean, it got
really weird, and the scientists in Israel basically disowned him.
He wrote three books on it, volume one, two three.
He was getting rich, and I mean it just went
to his head. He never never surrendered his life to
Yushu Ahamashiyak, even though he was seeing with his own
eyes these codes about him and the crucifixion. So here's
how it works. Equid distance, letter spacing. I'll use some examples.
It would be like, well, let me just say this.
It would be like if I took the first chapter
of Genesis, and then what they do is is they
take all of the spaces out. If it's translated into
English where there's punctuation or vowel market, they take all
of that out and they just run the letters. Okay,
letters and Hebrew reads from right to left, but they
just run the letters. You know, in the beginning, God
created the heavens and earth, but they're crammed together. So
when you look at them in English, you see those
words in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth,
just cram together. You see the letters. Does that make sense?
All right? There's a reason because the computers not looking
for vowel markers or commas. It's looking for the letters
to see if what words could be in those letters.
But they are rules, there's protocol. Otherwise you're just looking
at a telephone book. You find thirty five letters and
oh my gosh, I can make one hundred words out
of that. Okay, but no, it's not that at all.
Here's how it works. They had. This was only available
when the computer was invented. Boy, do I have something
to tell you about that. It's in the book. But
anyway it it. You take the first chapter of Genesis,
you take everything out and just run the letters. Okay,
then you ask the computer. Now, I'm just going to
pretend this is just an example. Okay, Let's say I say, well,
I wonder if my name is there. You know, that's
like when you get your new phone book. We don't
have phone books anymore, but back in the day, everybody
used to look see if their name was in it.
You know, it's crazy, but if I just look at this,
I wonder if my name is there. And so you
enter that my name c ar L in the code
in the program. And what it does. It starts scanning
the letters till it finds the first C that it
comes across. All right, Then it goes further until it
the first A after the C. Well, if there's ten
letters between those, then now the protocol is ten letters
distance equal distance letter spacing, which means if my name
is there and the R is next, it has to
be exactly ten letters over. It can't just be willing.
And of course you're going to find an R somewhere there.
And then if you find that, you go, wow, that's
getting weird. But ten letters over from the R is
an L, and you go that's really weird. Then you say, well,
how about my last name gallops G A L L ups.
Ten letters over there's a G and you start to tremble.
Ten letters over there's another A and now you're going,
wait a minute, ten letters over, there's an L. Ten
letters over from that, there's another L ten letters over
from that, there's a U, then a P, then an
S ten letter equal distance letters spacing. Carl Gallops is
in the Book of Genesis, the first chapter. Now that's
not true. I'm just making this up to show people
how astounding this is, because they did find amazing things,
amazing things and and and I'll tell you a couple
of them in a moment. But then what if you said, uh,
Carl Gallups, you know, will be a preacher, you know,
and you put that in there, and then sure enough,
let's say it finds the first W and then the
next the I after it is five letters Well that's
the protocol. So the two l's for will has to
be sure enough, it's there, Carl Gallup's will what and
then five letters over as a B five letters over,
an E will be five letters over from that is
the word A A. What five letters over is P
and then R E A C H E R Carl
Gallups will be a preacher. And that was that? What
do you what would you think that's coincidence? I mean,
that's just all that's just an accident. That's well. See,
that's how they developed this program so that it wouldn't
it couldn't be. You might run across a coincidental thing
every now and then, but to find all the stuff
they found, and they filled three books with it, it's
just impossible. And so it's I mean, see, God has
multi dimension dimensional guys. He's not bound. He doesn't live
in the universe. He created the universe. He's outside the universe.
It's like our computers. We're looking at the screens right now.
I see you three, you see me. I can click
on something and something happens. I can open a paint
program and draw a picture, and you know, and all
that life is happening, videos and programs and apps and pictures.
But what is there a little man that lives inside
our computer that makes it all work. No, it was
programmed with artificial intelligence to make it work and to
do all of these things from outside. So the creator
of the computer doesn't live inside the computer. He put
his intelligence in it and now it works perfectly. Okay,
that's a teeny illustration of what God did. He said,
let it be, let there be, Let there be, and
over and over let there be, let there be, let there,
and it was, and it was, and it was, and
it was. He needs building by his word. Okay, she
called the Yapidvardo in Hebrew, it means him, by your word,
you created everything and so so so equidistance letter spacing.
We look at this and we say, okay, there's the word.
So the word of God speaks of multiple dimensions. It
speaks of portals. I mean our battles not against flesh
and blood, but against the unseen realms, and on and on, Heaven, Hell, Paradise,
the Lake of Fire. I mean, she oh, Hades, it's
just crazy. It's all right. The Jesus said, nobody gets
to where my father is unless they come through me.
I am the door. Well, our modern word for that
would be I'm the portal. You want to go to
the dimension in which my father lives, you have to
come through me. See, the Bible's filled with this language,
our modern day scientific language. It's all there. So when
this equisistance letter spacing, that's what these Jewish scientists were
looking at. They said, we believe this is the word
of God. They would say the Tanakh. They don't believe
in the New Testament, but they would say, this is
the word of God. It's got to be multi dimensional
because God is so there must be other messages there,
and so they developed the program to find them. That's
the layman's understanding of it. But I'll give you an example.
And went to Israel on my tenth anniversary in my church.
Now I've been the pastor of that church for thirty
eight years now, so I was twenty eight years ago,
but they gave it to us on our tenth anniversary
as a gift. My wife and I went. We met
our tour guide. His name is Dan Moron. I don't
know if he's even still living, but I kept up
with him for years. He even came to my house.
He did tours all over the world, took Jewish people
to New York City and to California. And when he
finished his tour, he would call me and say, hey,
can my wife and I come by, And so, yeah,
he's been my home. Speaks Hebrews, this first language. He
was a big Ideaf officer connected to the government officials.
I mean, to be a tour guide in Israel, you
have to be somebody. You can't just say hey, I
won't tell people about Israel. No, you have to go
to school, you have to be certified, you have to
be licensed. Okay, that's who he was. So when he
was in my home, I had just read Drasmen's book.
It's going to blow you all the way. It's in
my book, you shue a protocol, just as an example
of how deep God is and how these connections are made.
Forget Drawsen's book, forget the stupid stuff he did, and said,
just listen to what is before our eyes and before
our ears. I got down Marome. I'm showing in the book,
and a lot of it's written in Hebrew, the charts
and graphs of the scriptures, because it shows you and
it circles the words, and then in English it tells
you what you're looking at. Well, back then I didn't
read Hebrew or speak it. I do now, not perfectly.
I don't read and speak it perfectly now, but I
know it a lot of it, and I pray it
and read scripture. But anyway, I didn't know that, but
he did. So Dan sitting in my living room and
I'm pointing over here because I'm in my office at
my house, and just right through that wall, and he
was sitting right there, and I said, look at this book.
And I said, now, I'm not going to tell you
anything about it, but I want to go to this
graft and then what it says. In Hebrew? It said, Dan,
you'll seal up the scroll until the time of the end,
people will be going to and fro over the face
of the earth, and knowledge will increase. That's how the
English translates it. But it was all in Hebrew. But
draws and said that's what it says. So I said,
first of all, just read this Hebrew and tell me
what it says. He starts reading it and he says,
that's out of the Book of Daniel, and then he
quotes it. Now he's seeing the words because the words
are crammed together. There's no punctuation, no vowel markers. But
he sees the letters and he's seeing the words, you know.
And he said, this is a mab who wrote this?
What is this? And he's kind of tried to snatch
it out of my hand and he said, no, no, no,
not yet, because I've got a surprise for you. Something else,
he says. I says, now I turned the page and
there's that verse, and you see going at a diagonal
through that chunk of scripture could only be found with
a computer, because it doesn't just run straight. It can
go left, it can go right, it can go diagonal
that way diagonal, that way goes straight up and down.
I mean, all I has to do is find the
letters and connect them equidistance letters spacing. Only a computer
can do that. So he looks and he sees the circles,
and he goes, this is impossible. I said, why what
do you see now? See? Daniel's prophecy speaks of knowledge increasing,
But that word knowledge means technology. The Greeks invented the
word technology, but that word knowledge and Hebrew meant that
not only stuff you learn, but what do you do
with it? What do you make with it? What machine
can you make? And not a machine like we think,
but how do you make a plow to be pulled
by an oxygen? First you have to have knowledge. Then
with that comes you build things, You create things? Okay, technology,
all right? So what Daniel is saying, and all the
Hebrew words are there, but a should wat I mean,
I don't want to board your audience with it. All,
but all the words there in Hebrews say this, and
those words are used throughout the scripture in other ways,
but the English translated and annul is not really good
because they don't it translated the way it's translated everywhere else.
That first word means in those days many, and in
Hebrew it means an uncountable multitude will go throughout the earth.
That word in Hebrew is shuwat, and it means to
and fro throughout the earth. Satan joke, where have you been,
I've been to in throw, I've been showat throughout the earth.
The eyes of God goes shoat throughout the world. He
knows everything. That's what it means. Uncountable multitudes will be
circumnavigating the globe. Daniel in those last days, and then
he says, and knowledge will increase. That word increase means
exponential growth. It's the word that's used in Hebrew in
Genesis where he says to the fish, now fill the seas.
Increase and fill the seas. He tells the birds increase
and fill the skies. He tells Adam and Eve, increase
your kind and fill the earth. That only happens with
exponential growth. So Daniel is told in the last Days
one of the markers is an exponential growth in technology
like the world has never seen. We've gone through technological
spurts when the wheel was invented, with the chariot was invented,
you know, and all of these different things, but nothing
like what happened in nineteen fifty and now with the
mapping of the human genome in two thousand and three,
and now with quantum computing and AI, and now with
you know, weaponry and warfare and medical science and medical machines.
The MRI came from the knowledge we got from CERN,
the largest man made machine on the planet. I mean,
it just is exploding before us, at the same time
that Israel returns, at the same time that Iran is
attacking that return to Israel. All of this is happening.
So I'm showing Dan. I call him Dan, but Dan Maron,
and he's looking at it, and I said, so, you
see this code that runs diagonally, what does that say
in Hebrew? He said that it's impossible. What I'm getting
ready to tell you. I already knew what it said
because drawsn had given the answer in English, but I
didn't show him that yet. He's just reading in Hebrew.
He says. What it says is it comes from that
verse about this exponential increase of knowledge. What it says
when a word that runs right through it In Hebrew,
he said, we don't when this was written, we did
not have these words. And here's what it says. It
will be done with computer. He said, we didn't have
the word computer. That wasn't invented until the nineteen fifties
in the Hebrew language. And Daniel has our Hebrew word
written two thousand, six hundred years ago. He said, this
is impossible, and it's right there, running in perfect symmetry.
I said, well, it's called equal distance letter spacing. How
can this be? I said, your guys invented it. Drasn
is just writing about it. And I said, the Word
of God is multi dimensional, multi layered. It's beyond we
don't know. What we don't know, it's beyond our knowledge.
Who can know the thoughts of God? They're like the
grains of sand. Psalm one thirty nine says that we're
woven together. We're knitted together in our mother's womb. Now
in my book, I used to see I actually have
a whole expos I've got I've got pictures of it.
I've got videos, I've got them listed. I've put down
the transcripts where people can read what's in the videos
of the weaving knitting process that happens. We now see it.
This is the first generation to see it in digital format.
It has been animated. And the scientists that see it said,
that's exactly what we're seeing. And what we're also seeing
is tens of thousands of what they used to call
protein globules before we could see what we see now.
And they taught it in medical schools. Yes, there's the
Kenaisians and the dinine motors, and they come and they
assist the DNA and assist what and they come, what
is there intelligence here? I mean evolution to that is
not just a strip of DNA that communicates with four
amino acids AGCT standing for the proteins and acids.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: In the book, I show these big scientists that say,
now we know these amino acids. They are amino acids.
They don't make a language. But yet trillions of words
and instructions are coded in our bodies every day, two
trillion times a day. Our DNA replicates itself two trillion
times a day, every day, of our life. And that
happens by now we were watching it with our eyes,
these little dinine motors and the Knissians, and it's happening
as fast as a jet engine spins. But with these animals,
the slow it down. You can see it. Tens of
thousands of these little I'm going to call them machines.
But wait, they come into the DNA, they strip it.
The DNA is a helix, a double helix. It's opened up,
and one group opens it up. Another group pulls information
from the strands. Another group puts them together, copies and
transcribes it. Another group comes back and weaves it back together,
knits it back together. And then that other group takes
that information into the nucleus, into the chromosome and continues
life in our bodies. But now what we see is
these are not protein globulles. We don't know what they are.
But they have legs and feet and arms, and they
communicate with each other. They step around each other, they
step over each other. They all have different jobs to do.
They know what they're doing. Are these living entities? Are
these creatures? Or are they? And scientists now are completely
flummoxed by it. This is impossible all of this intelligence.
Not only that, but the four amino acids are making
these languages that determine that I'm a person and not
an ant or a stalk of corn. Every living thing
has DNA plants, animals, insects, fish, birds, humans, and it
all communicates continually. And what scientists are now saying amino
acids don't communicate. Amino Acids don't make languages, and especially
not randomly through a big bang or a chemical sludge pond.
What they're saying is this information is coming from outside
and or it was coded in in a language impossible
to us. We don't know what. We don't know. How
can amino acids communicate well, if God tells it to
it can How do these little motors, these little globules
that now we're looking at with legs and feet and
arms and a body, and they're moving up and down
the DNA strands. This is on the internet, guys, you
can look. I've shown it to my church, I've shown
it in conferences. People just go, oh my gosh. You
should read the comments under these videos. I actually have
some of them in my book. Because you got medical
doctors and scientists and students medical students that are looking
at this saying, if we had known this ten years
ago when we were in medical school, this would have
changed everything. You've got people in there who used to
be obvious evolutionists and they're saying, Okay, throw that out
the window. This is impossible. But we're looking at it,
we're watching it. There's intelligence here that is out of
this world. All of this is in my book. And
the evolutionists that are desperately trying to defend themselves, their
white papers are on the National Institutes of Health website.
I copied the first, the introduction, and the conclusion to
these five or six or seven or eight of the
top ones, I mean right up to our day twenty
twenty four, and then I gave a synopsis of what
they're saying. But they are they're going berserk. They can't
explain it, and they and they step all over themselves.
It's embarrassing. I was embarrassed to put their stuff in
my book. But the world needs to know we're on
the cusp of the return of the Lord, and only
God's word says I knit you together in your mother's womb,
and you are fearfully and wonderfully made that means beyond
your comprehension, And the next verse says, and who can
know the thoughts of God? His thoughts are like the
grains of sands. In other words, you'll never figure this out.
There's some you don't know what you don't know. But
in twenty twenty four, Carl, God's going to write a
book that stupid pastor, and he's going to show you
pictures of it, and then the whole world will get it. Now,
I'm not the discoverer of this. I'm not a DNA biologist,
but i know how to read, and I read guys
that are and I've got them quoted. I've got you know,
the transcripts of their videos and everything in there. That's
so anyway, That's what the book Eyes to See is
all about, these kinds of revelations that are just astounding
and backed up. I'm not pulling any of this out
of my back pocket. It's all backed up by science
and archaeology experts, linguists, and I've got the references, and
I've got the URLs of the videos. You can go
watch them yourself, and just you know, it's just we're
living in very prophetic times. Brother, Thanks for having me on.
I see, I need to go here in a minute.
Speaker 2: Why don't you go ahead and let everybody know where
they can follow you, where they can find you, because honestly,
your material is just too good for people not to be.
Speaker 3: In the know. Thank you, thank you, you're sure a protocol.
They need to get that, and then eyes to see
they build on each other. But I write my books
so that you don't have to read one to read
the other. In fact, when you read one, you don't
ever have to read the other because I will kind
of give a recapitulation of the things they need to know,
and then I move on to the new revelations. And
so I just want them to know that. But if
you'll read, you show a protocol I used to see,
and then my third one coming out, you'll have a
trilogy that'll be equal to or greater than a seminary education.
I mean literally, they don't teach this stuff in seminary.
But to get there, you have to know a lot
of biblical things, the language, Hebrew, language, Greek and all.
And I explain it all at a layman's level. I've
got illustrations and you don't have to memorize any of
that you don't know how to You don't have to
know how to speak Greek. I've got a degree in
Greek and Hebrew, but you don't have to have that.
I do the explanation, I put the pictures there for
you to see, and then the rest of it's up
to you, and I show the scriptures that speak of
these things.
Speaker 2: Everybody needs to Carl. Everybody to Carl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's Carl Gallops dot com. Carl Gallops dot
com is where you go to my website. You can
go to Callgaves dot com slash store. It'll take you
right to all of my books. There's promo videos, a
link to the websites. You can read inside my books.
You can order it right from me. I'll autograph it,
we'll send it posters paid in the United States. You
can communicate with real people, or you can buy They're
published by major publishers, so you can buy them anywhere
in the world that good books are sold online as
well as in brick and mortar stores. They're in foreign
nations that had too many to even count. You can
buy them in these nations all over the United States online,
or you just go to callgas dot com and order
right from our offices and we'll get it in the
mail to the next day and autographed if you want it,
and so anyway, we try to make it easy for folks.
Speaker 2: Well, Carl, we appreciate you being on here so much,
my friend. We really look forward to having you back.
I promise you that this is not a one this
is not a one time deal. This is we watch
you back all ready.
Speaker 3: Thank you. There's so much to talk about, well, not
only in that book, and I'm not here to sell
a book. I write books so that I can tell
people and show people that I know what I'm talking
about when I'm on an interview. I'm not pulling this
stuff out of my back pocket. I'm not see. Prior
to being a pastor, I was a patrol officer in
two different sheriff's offices for ten years, and a criminal
investigator in one of them, and that goes over into
my Bible study. I want the DNA see how I
did that DNA. I want the forensics. I want the eyewitnesses.
I want the scholarly application of what I'm looking at.
I want experts to come in and testify. I want okay,
I approach my book writing the same way I approach
my preaching in my digging into scriptures, the same way.
I don't want to just re quote somebody else's little
cliche or you know, I want to know what God's
word says in context and how it applies to our
life and how to make it relevant. So that way
I teach, that way, I write that way. The only
reason I write these books is because I got to
get it out of my head onto paper, put the
references down. Because when I'm preaching it or like on
your show, I can say to your audience, I'm not
lying to you. I'm not making this up. Get the book.
You'll have access to everything I had access to. And
most of it doesn't even come from Christian websites. It
comes from science sites, archaeological sites, DNA sites, from scholarly sites,
from universities. You know, that's where it comes from. And
when you see it and then you see how we
make those connections in the Word of God, it just
blows you. It blows me away. I'm not saying I'm
going to blow you away. I'm saying the Word of
God does. I'm just the messenger of the carpenter that
built this little building here and gave it to you
in a book form. But if people want to prosecution baby, yeah,
yeah that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I try to build a case, take it to court.
You're the jury, you're the judge, and you make your
decision and I just do my work and I let
the Holy Spirit do his work and then it's up
to up to you and not you. But just whoever's listening,
whoever's watching.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks again brother, and uh so much to talk about.
Here's the book right here. This is the yes you
are protocol start here if you'd like. This is awesome
and uh justin as always keep me and y'all we
feel the poe.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 3: Sorry, just to see through smoking and call me my name.
Speaker 2: Will cost you.
Speaker 3: The same.
Speaker 2: Base.
Speaker 3: Well file le