Speaker 1: He's a nice side with Dan Ray on WBZ Constance Radio.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: The Boston Globe this morning had had interesting headlines in
Speaker 3: the last couple of days. Governor Healy has ordered a
Speaker 3: system wide inspections of shelters after the Globe headline says
Speaker 3: undocumented immigrants. To me, an undocumented immigrant is someone here
Speaker 3: who has somehow lost their papers or something. But an
Speaker 3: undocumented integram immigrant is someone who has come here illegally.
Speaker 3: And there was a individual who has been arrested at
Speaker 3: a Revere shelter. His name is Leonardo Anduja Sanchez. He's
Speaker 3: an undocumented immigrant, which means he is here illegally in
Speaker 3: our country from the Dominican Republic. And this gentleman, I
Speaker 3: used that word somewhat loosely, apparently was living this shelter
Speaker 3: in Revere since October fifteenth without the knowledge of anyone,
Speaker 3: and somehow, some way, I guess, he was arrested and
Speaker 3: charged with a both drug and weapons violations. He had
Speaker 3: with him ten pounds of fentanyl. Now, you know most
Speaker 3: people that would probably kill you probably kill about five,
Speaker 3: ten thousand and thirty thousand people ten pounds of fentertal.
Speaker 3: That's a dangerous drug and an assault rifle as well
Speaker 3: as cash. And at the same time, the governor is
Speaker 3: now looking for more money for the shelter program, about
Speaker 3: four hundred and thirty million, four hundred and twenty five
Speaker 3: million dollars. She filed a an additional spending bill in
Speaker 3: which she's going to use proposes to use pandemic era
Speaker 3: surplus to basically keep the long, straight, long strained shelter
Speaker 3: system up and running through the end of this fiscal year,
Speaker 3: which is June thirtieth. So lots of problems here. In
Speaker 3: a letter signed by all twenty five House Republicans, according
Speaker 3: to the Boston Globe, the Republican Caucus states the state
Speaker 3: must do a better job of providing close and continuous
Speaker 3: oversight of the facilities. This must serve as the final
Speaker 3: wake up call to the Democratic supermajority in the Healthy
Speaker 3: District Driscoll administration to reform the state fund and emergency
Speaker 3: assistance program. Amy Carnivalley, the chair of the State Republican Party,
Speaker 3: said in a separate statement on Monday, on the other
Speaker 3: side of the coin, because we always like to give
Speaker 3: the other side of the coin area park. She's a
Speaker 3: staff attorney at the Boston Law Reform Institute said, well,
Speaker 3: the details of the arrest are shocking. She she personally
Speaker 3: does not have concerns about the overall safety of families
Speaker 3: in the system, given the steps to state and provide
Speaker 3: has already taken. Now, I would believe that miss Park,
Speaker 3: Andrea Park probably doesn't have any family members living at
Speaker 3: that hotel with an individual who had ten pounds of
Speaker 3: fentil as well as an automatic weapon. And she goes
Speaker 3: on to say, unfortunately, people do commit crimes. That's not
Speaker 3: about shelters and immigration. Park said her overriding concern is
Speaker 3: the state's ability to make sure children and families are
Speaker 3: transitioning into safe and permanent housing. Yeah, but a lot
Speaker 3: and we do have a lot of people in this
Speaker 3: state who do commit crimes. There's no doubt about that,
Speaker 3: American born citizens. But we really don't need more people
Speaker 3: coming here to commit crimes illegally with me, now, I
Speaker 3: shouldn't say with me, but with us on the phone
Speaker 3: right now to talk about this as a man who
Speaker 3: has had some experience. John Featherstone John is a former
Speaker 3: member of the Ashland Boardist Selectman. He's also the shelter
Speaker 3: director at the obera holiday in from October of twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three through last July, John, you were an appointee
Speaker 3: of the the Healy Friscal Administration.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Hi, Dan, thanks for having me. You're welcome, honor to
Speaker 5: be back on with you. Thank you. I'm currently a
Speaker 5: Housing Commissioner for the Town of Ashland with the government
Speaker 5: appointment from the Governor Healing, and I also serve on
Speaker 5: a m APC's executive committee as a governor appointment as well.
Speaker 3: So, but I guess you saw some stuff at the
Speaker 3: Marlborough Holiday Inn that decide that you decided that you
Speaker 3: were going to leave that position. Tell us, tell us
Speaker 3: what you saw. And then also, are you surprised at
Speaker 3: what has come out of a revere and previously that
Speaker 3: alleged rape down in Rockland of the fifteen year old.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Dan, I'm not surprised by any of it, unfortunately,
Speaker 5: and I think it's just the tip of the iceberg
Speaker 5: of the information that's being released now. I think the
Speaker 5: general public is going to be shocked and horrified and
Speaker 5: these are my words by the cover up that the
Speaker 5: Healing administration is doing right now, I mean essentially, right now,
Speaker 5: we're having taxpayers fund rapes of small children, drug trafficking,
Speaker 5: arms trafficking, sex crimes, domestic violence, ebt card fraud that
Speaker 5: you know is unbelievable. And the fact that the governor
Speaker 5: wants to double down and take four hundred and twenty
Speaker 5: five million dollars more out of you know, the Rainy
Speaker 5: Day Fund to fund this. This is the definition of lunacy.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, before all of this, I thought,
Speaker 5: you know, more you know, I didn't often agree with
Speaker 5: more Healey's political stands, but I always just thought she
Speaker 5: was a common sense, you know, you know person. Now
Speaker 5: I just I don't understand what she is doing. The
Speaker 5: stories that hopefully I can share with you tonight, and
Speaker 5: hopefully it's it's really unfortunately that I share with you tonight.
Speaker 5: I think people are just going to be shocked by.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: There was another report that was released today by the
Speaker 3: Donahue Institute of citi's largest annual population spike since nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty four. This is amongst the fifty states. Massachusetts was
Speaker 3: the thirteenth in population change and fifteenth in population change
Speaker 3: from July first, twenty twenty three to July first, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four, and Massachusetts between and these were the years
Speaker 3: that you were working for the Heathy administration. Between July first,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three and July first, twenty twenty four, the
Speaker 3: state's population increased by sixty nine thousand, six hundred and
Speaker 3: three people. And during this period, the my biggest population
Speaker 3: spike is amongst people who have come here illegally. This
Speaker 3: is an incredible report that that just shows that domestic
Speaker 3: migration is down in Massachusetts. There is a bit of
Speaker 3: better news in terms of live births, but international migration
Speaker 3: is through the roof. The largest driver immigration estimated at
Speaker 3: ninety two and seventeen incoming immigrants. Now, some of them
Speaker 3: could be legal, arguably, but I suspect the vast majority
Speaker 3: of them are illegal. Between twenty twenty twenty three and
Speaker 3: twenty twenty twenty four, I assume that's what you experienced
Speaker 3: while you were working for the Heay administration.
Speaker 5: You know, Dan, what I saw was, you know, people
Speaker 5: who couldn't prove to me who they really were. So
Speaker 5: a lot of people, you know, and I'm just throwing
Speaker 5: out a name. I'm not targeting anybody, say Ronald Joseph said,
Speaker 5: you know, it was in the shelter well, when the
Speaker 5: case manager filled out his paperwork, Minophone filled it out
Speaker 5: as Joseph Ronald. So maybe that individual got two EBT cards,
Speaker 5: maybe they got two Wick cards, maybe they got two
Speaker 5: different Social Security numbers. So you see a lot of fraud.
Speaker 5: And when I hear morey Heally say that all of
Speaker 5: the migrants are vetted, it's a lie. It's a lie,
Speaker 5: Dan And you know, I don't you know, I want
Speaker 5: to call anybody a liar. It's a lie. Nobody is
Speaker 5: vetted because I can tell countless stories of how I
Speaker 5: was supposed to get you know, I'll just make it
Speaker 5: so we can have a conversation. Dan Ray is supposed
Speaker 5: to come to the shelter today with a party of four,
Speaker 5: you know, a family of four. Dan Ray doesn't show up.
Speaker 5: I call the state and say, hey, where's Dan Ray?
Speaker 5: We don't know. Well what do you mean, you know,
Speaker 5: we don't know. A family then shows up the next day.
Speaker 5: Who's not Dan Ray. It's John Featherston. And I called
Speaker 5: the state and say, well, it's not the right family,
Speaker 5: Oh no, just check him in. Well where's Dan Ray?
Speaker 5: We don't know. Don't worry about it. And they don't
Speaker 5: have the right ID. They don't have the right you know,
Speaker 5: you know, there's no betting process, so nobody knows who
Speaker 5: these criminals are. And Dan, the story that I'm going
Speaker 5: to tell you about a DCF agent coming to me
Speaker 5: and saying, hey, we got a real big problem on
Speaker 5: our hands, and I was, okay, what is it? Go
Speaker 5: get the father, why interview the daughter? Long story short.
Speaker 5: I bring the father down and the father admits to
Speaker 5: the DCF agent that he has sex with his daughter regularly,
Speaker 5: who is thirteen years old at the time. The daughter
Speaker 5: admits to it, the father admits to it, DCF rightfully
Speaker 5: removes her from custody of him. He starts freaking out
Speaker 5: on me. The Marlborough Police come and they have me
Speaker 5: trans firm to another shelter in Worcester.
Speaker 4: Dan.
Speaker 5: They don't arrest them, they just have me transform to
Speaker 5: another shelter. And as you mentioned, you know, I'm a
Speaker 5: long time you know, elected official, I kind of know
Speaker 5: how things work. And I literally say, why are we
Speaker 5: transferring this man and not arrest them. Oh, don't worry
Speaker 5: about it, We'll just transform to Worcester. And I said,
Speaker 5: we're in Middlesex County right now. We're in Marlborough. If
Speaker 5: I transform the Worcester, the DA is not going to
Speaker 5: touch this. You don't know that. I'm like, I do
Speaker 5: know that. You know, no DA is going to enforce
Speaker 5: you know, a crime that wasn't committed in their jurisdiction.
Speaker 5: So we just transferred this guy away. There's two other
Speaker 5: incidences in this shelter where a guy was raped, and
Speaker 5: all they did was was have us transfer the family out.
Speaker 5: No rest have been made. You know, there's three sides
Speaker 5: to every story. But I personally drove one of the
Speaker 5: girls to the police station to you know, report the rapes.
Speaker 5: Nobody's been arrested. And my only assumption is that heally
Speaker 5: just wants the stuff to go away. If you ignored it,
Speaker 5: it'll go away. So I pick up the you know,
Speaker 5: the paper last week and read this story about Revere.
Speaker 5: I actually filled in for a couple shifts in Revere.
Speaker 5: I'm not surprised by that. I'm sickened by it because
Speaker 5: the one story that doesn't get talked about is the
Speaker 5: service providers that are making millions of dollars from the healing,
Speaker 5: you know, the no big contracts and.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well we did. We did some stories about
Speaker 3: there's a cab company down on Cape cod which won
Speaker 3: and no big contract for six point one million dollars.
Speaker 5: Oh, but the companies you're making even more Money's that
Speaker 5: the human services companies, which are the case managers and
Speaker 5: you know, people like myself that are paid to run
Speaker 5: the day to day operations. They're making millions of dollars
Speaker 5: hiring unqualified staff, not doing background checks on them, hiring
Speaker 5: them only because they speak the language. And you get
Speaker 5: camps inside these buildings. Like I said, you get fraud,
Speaker 5: you get money just being wasted, you get crimes being committed.
Speaker 5: I was, you know, people would come case managers would
Speaker 5: come up to me, Well, you know, in our country,
Speaker 5: this is tolerated. You know, people have sex with their
Speaker 5: daughters in our country. I'm like, you're not in your
Speaker 5: country anymore. But you're not in your country anymore. And
Speaker 5: we don't have sex with our children in America. We
Speaker 5: don't eat our pets, you know. And Dan, there was
Speaker 5: literally a guy and it's you can you know, people
Speaker 5: can google it. The guy actually ran his car into
Speaker 5: my office because I told him that I wasn't going
Speaker 5: to continue to give him baby wipes and baby diapers
Speaker 5: in formula because he was I got him signed up
Speaker 5: for EBT card benefits and that it was essentially double dipping.
Speaker 5: If I was giving him stuff, then he was getting
Speaker 5: government benefits. So he ran his car through my office
Speaker 5: to send a message to me.
Speaker 3: Well, anything, any prosecution of him or no?
Speaker 5: Well he got arrested first not having a driver's license
Speaker 5: and not operating this vehicle for operaly.
Speaker 3: Fine, John, hold on for a second. I got to
Speaker 3: take a commercial break. If the point that is important
Speaker 3: for me to make here is that John actually was
Speaker 3: involved in this process from October of twenty twenty three
Speaker 3: through July of twenty twenty four. Now I know that
Speaker 3: the Herald is running a story tomorrow morning that will
Speaker 3: be of great interest. Has anyone from the Globe ever
Speaker 3: talked to you about any of this? I mean, the
Speaker 3: Globe is still the newspaper of record here in New England.
Speaker 5: Actually, you know, I know you got to go to break.
Speaker 5: But Corin Hajar wrote an excellent piece about it, and
Speaker 5: I think Governor Healy referred to it as a hit piece.
Speaker 3: Okay, good enough, We'll take a break. If you'd like
Speaker 3: to join the conversation and ask John Featherstone. Any question
Speaker 3: six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty or six
Speaker 3: one seven, nine three one, ten thirty. We'll be back
Speaker 3: on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on w b Z, the News Radio.
Speaker 3: My guest is John Featherstone. John worked as a manager
Speaker 3: at one of the shelters here in Massachusetts, at the
Speaker 3: shelter in director of the shelter in Marlboro. You've heard
Speaker 3: his story. We have phone calls. I want to get
Speaker 3: to John. I hope you'll stay there. Uh, we're told
Speaker 3: by Amy Carnovalley. She has been very critical of the
Speaker 3: Healey Driscoll administration as well. Let's bring Amy Carnavalley up.
Speaker 3: We'll get her in here before the newscast. Amy Carnavalley,
Speaker 3: I know the State Republican Party has issued a pretty
Speaker 3: strong statement tonight. But how you go? How is any
Speaker 3: of this going to change the the Healey min stations
Speaker 3: seems just intent on doing what they want to do
Speaker 3: and in the way in which they want to do it,
Speaker 3: whether it's people you know, being abandoned at MBTA stations
Speaker 3: or at Logan Airport or Roxbury Community Center being taken
Speaker 3: over last January and kids in that community losing the
Speaker 3: ability to have a community center to work in. It
Speaker 3: seems as if the Healey administration does whatever they want,
Speaker 3: no matter what what can be done.
Speaker 6: Hi, Dan, thanks, thanks so much for taking my call,
Speaker 6: and hello John. You know, John was a canary in
Speaker 6: the coal mine. But as you indicated, Dan, certainly there's
Speaker 6: been other warning signs that the current program is not
Speaker 6: working for Massachusetts taxpayer's residents, communities, or the shelter recipients themselves.
Speaker 6: It's really been a failure at every level. The Massachusetts
Speaker 6: Republican Party submitted a Freedom of Information Acts request to
Speaker 6: the state government on August twenty seventh, asking for information
Speaker 6: about what kind of crimes have been reported in these shelters.
Speaker 6: We have just now received information back from that request,
Speaker 6: and we are making that information available to the public
Speaker 6: in Massachusetts to see. And as John indicated with some
Speaker 6: his stories, the details of the crimes committed in these
Speaker 6: shelters is really heart wrenching for the families and for
Speaker 6: the communities and really putting the public at risk. And
Speaker 6: it's important to remember that these are tax pair dollars
Speaker 6: that are being spent and of course, you know, as
Speaker 6: we talked about earlier, you talked about earlier tonight. Governor
Speaker 6: Healey has now gone back and asked for additional money
Speaker 6: from the taxpayers of the Commonwealth from the Rainy Day Fund.
Speaker 6: And at some point this affects programs that our residents
Speaker 6: rely on, residents who have been here for years and
Speaker 6: decades and are hardworking and trying to make it in
Speaker 6: the current inflationary economy, and it is reaching a point
Speaker 6: of unsustainability. And I think this most recent report is
Speaker 6: a wake up call to the American public and to
Speaker 6: the publishing message.
Speaker 3: So you sought this report last October, excuse me, last August. August, yes,
Speaker 3: and now five months later, when was the report released today?
Speaker 7: Yesterday?
Speaker 6: We received the information about a week ago. It was
Speaker 6: rid over Christmas, and we've been looking with their thousands
Speaker 6: of pages of reports, and so we've been taking our
Speaker 6: time looking through the material. And so we're making this
Speaker 6: material now available to the public into the media and
Speaker 6: with the hopes that it will be covered. We have
Speaker 6: received information. I believe the Boston Globe is going to
Speaker 6: run a story tomorrow morning about this material, and I
Speaker 6: believe the Herald will cover it.
Speaker 7: As well well.
Speaker 3: Give us a little bit of an overview here. Obviously
Speaker 3: we're not a newspaper, but tell us what our listeners
Speaker 3: who will listening tonight might see if this report is
Speaker 3: indeed covered by either of both or the Boston newspapers
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning.
Speaker 6: So, for example, the governor expressed the prize and shock
Speaker 6: about the incident that was reported in a revere with
Speaker 6: the fedanol, the drugs, and the automatic weapon, and she
Speaker 6: seemed to indicate that this was the first that she
Speaker 6: had known about an incident of the seriousness. But in fact,
Speaker 6: there was an incident in these reports back in February
Speaker 6: of last year, another incident where we presume a migrant
Speaker 6: the names are redacted, was found with a gun in
Speaker 6: his room, nine hundred pills, nine bullets, thirty grams of cocaine.
Speaker 6: And so that's just one incident, many many other incidents
Speaker 6: involving sexual assault, child sexual assault, physical assaults of children,
Speaker 6: and other ports of weapons.
Speaker 5: And it is.
Speaker 6: Extremely troubling that this kind of these kinds of incidents
Speaker 6: seem to occur almost on a commonplace.
Speaker 4: Rate.
Speaker 6: And yet but yet we heard from the Hilly Driskill
Speaker 6: administration this week that this is the first there hearing
Speaker 6: about you know, did these incidents seem to be feign
Speaker 6: fee between But that's that is.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the point. This story about this guy up
Speaker 3: in Revere with the ten pounds of fentanyl, which is
Speaker 3: a substantial amount of a deadly drug which can kill
Speaker 3: people even when they're exposed to it. A few particles
Speaker 3: that could kill probably most of the residents of Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: It was played as if this is the first serious incident. Well,
Speaker 3: we all know about the alleged rape in Rockland of
Speaker 3: the fifteen year old. How how is the governor going
Speaker 3: to say that she's been kept in the dark by
Speaker 3: these groups and organizations that John once was a part of.
Speaker 3: John obviously has been blowing the whistle for some time now.
Speaker 3: How does she maintain plausible deniability?
Speaker 6: That's the question to her administration now that these reports
Speaker 6: have become public. I mean, was she just not told
Speaker 6: about these, you know, multiple dozens and dozens of reports
Speaker 6: that had been taking place in the in the crimes
Speaker 6: that have been taking place in these shelters, or was
Speaker 6: she kept in the dark. Either way, it's not good.
Speaker 6: It doesn't look good for her administration.
Speaker 3: Well, if she has kept it secret and has not
Speaker 3: shared it with the public. She should resign. If she
Speaker 3: has been kept in the dark, she should fire every
Speaker 3: person who kept that information from her or from the
Speaker 3: people who should have known. It seems to me that
Speaker 3: those are the two choices she has, John, would you
Speaker 3: agree to disagree with that?
Speaker 5: Dan? I agree one thousand percent with what you said,
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna I pulled the story before, but I'll
Speaker 5: tell her quickly here. I personally walked up to Maura
Speaker 5: Healy in the end zone of Navy at the Army
Speaker 5: Navy game and told her and looked her square in
Speaker 5: the eye and said, we've got huge problems in these shelters.
Speaker 5: She tells me, call me Monday morning and we'll talk
Speaker 5: about it. And it's thirteen months later and she's never
Speaker 5: called me back. So I told her there were problems,
Speaker 5: So she has no plausible deniability on this.
Speaker 3: All right, we got to take a break. Amy Connor Valley,
Speaker 3: thank you for giving us a heads up. I'm certainly
Speaker 3: going to be looking for my globe and herald tomorrow
Speaker 3: morning with some great anticipation, and thank you for giving
Speaker 3: us some of that information. We'll see it, hopefully laid
Speaker 3: out of the pages of Boston's two major newspapers. Thanks Amy,
Speaker 3: We will talk again soon. Thank you very very much.
Speaker 6: Thank John, Thanks very much.
Speaker 3: Thanks Thanks Amy, John, stay there. I got to take
Speaker 3: a news break, and I want to give people an
Speaker 3: opportunity to talk with you and ask your questions. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's as simple as that. Let's we'll go right to
Speaker 3: phone call say I have full lines. We'll coming back
Speaker 3: on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3: My guest is John Featherston. He is a former Massachusetts
Speaker 3: Shelter Director worked under the Healthy administration from October twenty
Speaker 3: three to July twenty twenty four. So you're telling me, John,
Speaker 3: that you approached the governor in December of two thousand
Speaker 3: and twenty three and to talk to her about this problem.
Speaker 3: Or was it December? Yeah, it was December twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: and she said call me Monday and I'll call you
Speaker 3: right back. And now it's thirteen months later. You've got
Speaker 3: to hear back from her.
Speaker 5: That is very well, it's not accurate because she actually
Speaker 5: came up to me because I was with another person
Speaker 5: in the end zone and we ended up having a conversation, okay,
Speaker 5: and I did. I did say to her that, yeah, hey, Governor,
Speaker 5: I'm having some real problems. And this was before even
Speaker 5: some of the crimes are coming out. I was just
Speaker 5: having problems vetting people. I was having problems processing things.
Speaker 5: And she literally said to me, call me Monday morning.
Speaker 5: And you know me, the naive boy scout. I called
Speaker 5: Monday morning, I called Tuesday morning, I called Wednesday morning.
Speaker 5: And then eventually I even ran into the Lieutenant governor
Speaker 5: and said, hey, I've been trying to get a hold
Speaker 5: of the governor because I want to set up a
Speaker 5: task force. I want to kind of work with the
Speaker 5: you know, the cities and the towns and you know,
Speaker 5: come up with a game plan. And you know, oh
Speaker 5: that's a great idea, John. I'll let her know. And
Speaker 5: here we are thirteen months later. Phone stole.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure it was de sever
Speaker 3: twenty three, not Navy game. Okay, So I mean it is.
Speaker 3: It's thirteen months ago. Let's go to phone calls. Got
Speaker 3: to start it off with Paul in East Boston. Paul,
Speaker 3: your comment to a question for John Featherstone, Go right ahead.
Speaker 2: Good evening, guys, My friends, that owns Spinelles and He's
Speaker 2: Boston were been in the paper with the contract for
Speaker 2: the food. I happened to have worked for them and
Speaker 2: deliver back when they first got the original contract in
Speaker 2: October of twenty three.
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 2: From that point till this past come up they were
Speaker 2: sent We were delivering breakfast, lunch, and supper. So I
Speaker 2: don't know twenty two hotels around the state, and I
Speaker 2: have to tell you it was just beyond belief what
Speaker 2: was getting thrown out. And you know, Spinelles is a
Speaker 2: company that's put a lot of time and effort into
Speaker 2: building their business. They were capable of handling the job
Speaker 2: at hand that the state asked them to do, and
Speaker 2: they took a lot of heat far it. But my
Speaker 2: point is this, there was a story in the Heralds
Speaker 2: of boat Spinelles and some of these other contracts with
Speaker 2: this whole mess at the state and the federal government
Speaker 2: has created having to do at last June May about Spinelles.
Speaker 2: Just last week, the Boston Globe suddenly has a two
Speaker 2: page article on the contract that Spinell's got, and it's
Speaker 2: not so much about Spinelles, it's about the fact that
Speaker 2: that the Globe wanted to point out in Sandero's Spinelles way,
Speaker 2: when the problems are not caused by Spinelles.
Speaker 3: Okay, John, Paul, here's the deal. I know what you're
Speaker 3: talking about, and you feel that that Spinell's has been
Speaker 3: has taking a bad rap. But I can't get into
Speaker 3: the to the nitty gritty on this show because most
Speaker 3: of my audience really doesn't know about that. You obviously
Speaker 3: are trying to say good things about Spinelle, a restaurant
Speaker 3: that you're familiar with. That's fine, let's see how it goes.
Speaker 3: But I just can't let you go on and on
Speaker 3: and on about what a great job I did.
Speaker 2: My point is that it's not about Spinelli's.
Speaker 3: It made that point already. You made a clear John
Speaker 3: made it clear, Paul, and I'm happy to give you
Speaker 3: that opportunity. But I can't go much further with that
Speaker 3: point because frankly, I don't know the specifics. I'm not
Speaker 3: challenging you, but I'm just saying I'm not going to
Speaker 3: give you ten minutes to do an ad for Spinale's.
Speaker 3: I hope you understand. I got to get to other
Speaker 3: callers as well.
Speaker 2: Thanks, directing your attention.
Speaker 4: In the word ship.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks very much, he's not buying what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Let me go to Larry down to the Cape. Larry
Speaker 3: next on Nisacer right ahead.
Speaker 8: Very important topic, Dan, and I'm glad you're bringing it
Speaker 8: a light go ahead. As you well know, my daughter
Speaker 8: who listened in Afghanistan came back last winter to work
Speaker 8: on a project on her Saffron project. Stayed in a hotel.
Speaker 8: I won't mention the town or the hotel, but we
Speaker 8: went there for approtionmately daily to help her approximately for
Speaker 8: about three weeks. It was so disgusting. They were sleeping
Speaker 8: in the halls. The place was filthy.
Speaker 3: You could you can mention that. Once you mention the town,
Speaker 3: you don't have to mention the hotel.
Speaker 8: Give us the town, No, I prefer not.
Speaker 3: So okay enough, okay, no problem, No, it's.
Speaker 8: It's fine, it's fine. And while she was there, uh,
Speaker 8: the police were there twice two people died. We don't
Speaker 8: know what the reason was. I don't want to assume
Speaker 8: it was drug overdoses, but these inspections are long overdue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it was just a spontaneous death. You never know. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: And and uh, and if you believe in that, I
Speaker 3: have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Speaker 8: The Sagamore Bridge is the sales.
Speaker 3: Thanks Dan, all right, thanks, thanks, I appreciate it. Uh,
Speaker 3: johnn you want to comment on what Larry had to say.
Speaker 5: You know, unfortunately I can confirm what Larry says. The
Speaker 5: hotels mostly get dirty, even to your prior caller about
Speaker 5: the food. You know, maybe if you and I went
Speaker 5: to Haiti, we wouldn't like to gusine either. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: you know, so a lot of people complain about you know,
Speaker 5: they don't like the food. So what happens is the
Speaker 5: food sits in their hotels rooms for days because the
Speaker 5: rooms are only cleaned twice a week. So you get rodents,
Speaker 5: you get fruit flies, you get cockroaches, you get rats.
Speaker 5: If becomes a you know, a domino effect. And and Dan,
Speaker 5: I just want to say this, if you think that
Speaker 5: inspections are really going to take place, maybe you.
Speaker 3: Should buy that break fair enough.
Speaker 5: It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Larry, goar. Do you want to find him? Final comment?
Speaker 7: Larry Nope.
Speaker 8: I just hope these inspections do take place. And John,
Speaker 8: You're gonna have to keep the pressure up on the
Speaker 8: governor because I think it's gonna fall on deafias. So
Speaker 8: so anyways, great topic.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks Larry, appreciate your calling. Let's keep rolling.
Speaker 3: You're going to get one more India before the break.
Speaker 3: Let me go to Joe and came but show you
Speaker 3: next time. I sat with John Featherston, a former Massachusetts
Speaker 3: shelter director, at the Holiday Inn Marborough. Go right ahead, good.
Speaker 7: I mean Dan, Good evening, John, Happy New Year. Thank
Speaker 7: you for thank you for bringing up this topic up.
Speaker 7: I think it's very important. It needs to stay in
Speaker 7: the news. I personally have said from day one, I've
Speaker 7: never been a fan of this governor. I think that
Speaker 7: it goes beyond her. You know, this election has consequences
Speaker 7: in her getting re elected with you know, or or
Speaker 7: or some new individual getting elected in her tossed out.
Speaker 7: I think this goes beyond that. In my opinion, Uh,
Speaker 7: there should be some you know, I think consequences to
Speaker 7: the effect that she should be investigated and charged legally
Speaker 7: and and and prosecuted.
Speaker 3: The Attorney general is a Democrat here at you think
Speaker 3: that the attorney general and Dre Campbell is going to
Speaker 3: investigate more. Haley.
Speaker 7: Well, but but this is my point. And you know,
Speaker 7: I had a question as I was listening, which was
Speaker 7: answered as to why is this even being allowed to
Speaker 7: go on? And you know, spendelis aside the cab company
Speaker 7: side and all the money that you know, I'm not
Speaker 7: bringing any of those. Those are private businesses and they
Speaker 7: need help as well, and they profited and benefited from it.
Speaker 7: I get that, you know, but you kind of answered
Speaker 7: John the answered my question as I was listening that
Speaker 7: when he said that even beyond that, the millions and
Speaker 7: millions that are that are being made at the government level,
Speaker 7: the state level, with all these shelters, the directors, the
Speaker 7: you know, the mental health you know, these are all
Speaker 7: I imagine people that are under the state you know, tutelist,
Speaker 7: under the state guidance that that again you know, are
Speaker 7: getting our profiting off of this. So it makes sense.
Speaker 7: Why is this being you know, why is this continuing
Speaker 7: to happen? Why is it not being stopped because as usual,
Speaker 7: you know, these politicians and their their assignees are making
Speaker 7: all kinds of money. And you know what I applaud
Speaker 7: with the fretistant for for stepping forward and he was
Speaker 7: appointed by the governor. And I applaud you very very much,
Speaker 7: Surer stepping forward and bringing to light, because what's happening,
Speaker 7: is absolutely discussing, is the fleecing of the Massachusetts tax player.
Speaker 7: And that's just at a at a financial level. What's
Speaker 7: what's happening worse, you know, at a criminal level, to
Speaker 7: these you know, poor girls that are getting raped, all
Speaker 7: these crimes. I mean, imagine she waged the war, this
Speaker 7: governor waged the war on law body citizens in this
Speaker 7: state on the Second Amendment, you know, basically outlawing AR
Speaker 7: fifteen style rifles and this this these criminals in particular,
Speaker 7: this one review was arrested with an Air fifteen five
Speaker 7: five six weapon with thirty round plus magazines, one of
Speaker 7: which was over fifty five rounds. Not to mention the drugs.
Speaker 3: Gun control doesn't. Gun control doesn't apply to legal immigrants
Speaker 3: in Massachusetts. Jhow you got to understand, of course, Laura
Speaker 3: Biding's citizens. Joe, I gotta let you run. Thank you
Speaker 3: so much. You made some great points. Appreciate it. Thanks, Joe.
Speaker 3: We'll take quick break back with John Featherston. He is
Speaker 3: a former Massachusetts Shelter Director at the Holiday Inn in Marlborough.
Speaker 3: Well attempted a year thirteen months ago to talk with
Speaker 3: the governor. He at that point was working for the
Speaker 3: Carnwealtham Massachusetts. She said to him, Yep, I'll get back
Speaker 3: to you. Call me Monday, get back to you. He's
Speaker 3: still waiting. Maybe she meant a different Monday, John, I
Speaker 3: don't know. You just never know. Sometimes you take things
Speaker 3: and you don't kind of nail you got a specific
Speaker 3: data on that governor you're talking about this Monday coming up. Anyway,
Speaker 3: At my frustration level, obviously, I feel the same way
Speaker 3: I know mar Healey. I instinctively feel she's a very
Speaker 3: decent person. But I feel that in this thing, this
Speaker 3: situation has overwhelmed her and her administration, and I think
Speaker 3: that there will be a political price to pay. We'll
Speaker 3: be back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: My guess is John Featherston. We're talking about abuse in
Speaker 3: Massachusetts shelters for what the Globe and the Herald referred
Speaker 3: to as illegal immigrants. These are people who are here illegally.
Speaker 3: They are not immigrants in the classic sense. They are
Speaker 3: people who have arrived and expect to be taken care of. John,
Speaker 3: very quick question, and I don't know if you know
Speaker 3: the answer to this, but when this immigrant crisis really
Speaker 3: blossomed a couple of years ago, the Healy administration made
Speaker 3: an appeal to people in Massachusetts to call the governor's
Speaker 3: office and be willing to take in an immigrant family
Speaker 3: into their own homes. I remember that appeal, but I
Speaker 3: don't remember any accounting of how many people in Massachusetts
Speaker 3: actually agreed to take an immigrant family someone here illegally
Speaker 3: into their own homes. Did you see any statistics on that.
Speaker 5: I didn't see any statistics, but I did see an
Speaker 5: actual story that ran on wbt TV. I believe a
Speaker 5: family and wealthy took somebody in and from from a
Speaker 5: very reliable source. I heard it didn't work I heard
Speaker 5: it didn't work out real well.
Speaker 3: I see, Okay, I didn't see any sort of you know,
Speaker 3: we've had one hundred and fifty families placed locally, you know,
Speaker 3: placed locally, and you know people who have spare rooms
Speaker 3: or or or in law apartments and all of that.
Speaker 3: Let's keep rolling here. You're going to go to Gene
Speaker 3: and Everett Jane next on Nights Side with John Featherstone.
Speaker 7: Go right ahead, yes, he Jan.
Speaker 9: Hello, gentlemen, let me glad you have this on. I
Speaker 9: have a relative that lives near that shelter.
Speaker 3: I which shelter, the one in Revere, Gene you're talking about. Okay,
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 9: I transverse Route one every other day probably, Okay, I
Speaker 9: go up there to my shopping and visit relatives. I
Speaker 9: am a little freaked out that this guy had multiple
Speaker 9: guns and drugs and everything all over the place.
Speaker 3: Fifteen you just had one ar fifteen and ten pounds
Speaker 3: of fentanyl.
Speaker 9: Oh, because I saw a picture on the news that
Speaker 9: showed three weapons. It was yes, So the thing is.
Speaker 9: And there was also a man who was a father.
Speaker 9: He said he had a one year old in the
Speaker 9: neighborhood near that Revere shelter. He said he's concerned with
Speaker 9: all the night activity that goes on there. Now these shelters,
Speaker 9: I think they need to hire their own security the
Speaker 9: hotel and should pay for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you.
Speaker 3: Want, go right ahead, John, Go ahead, John.
Speaker 5: And that's what I was saying before the last breakdown,
Speaker 5: is that, yeah, I don't think the public understands what
Speaker 5: is going on. The state hires service providers, human service organizations.
Speaker 5: And I'm not going to name any because I don't
Speaker 5: want to say anything about them. But you know, somebody
Speaker 5: out there wants to do a Google search on Massachusetts
Speaker 5: human service agencies, they'll all come up.
Speaker 3: The Catholic Charities, I think, is one of the primary
Speaker 3: providers it and I will tell you.
Speaker 5: Probably one of the best ones. Probably one of the
Speaker 5: best ones. And there are there are some very good ones,
Speaker 5: and unfortunately there are some very bad ones. But the state,
Speaker 5: the state contracts them to run these. I call them
Speaker 5: the Healy Hotels, the migrant shelters. The same company that
Speaker 5: I work for ran the Revere Shelter and the Marlboro Shelter,
Speaker 5: and I worked in the Revere shelter covering a couple
Speaker 5: of ships. So I can tell you how the security works.
Speaker 5: The company hires the security. It's a it's a third
Speaker 5: party security system. And when I tell you it's security,
Speaker 5: it's just one guy sitting at a desk, you know,
Speaker 5: just keeping track of things. It's not very good security.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know, oftentimes they're not bilingual, so you know, it's
Speaker 5: hard to communicate with the clients and so forth. But
Speaker 5: these service providers are making millions of dollars and they're
Speaker 5: hiring unqualified, untrained, unfollowed up by the state employees. That
Speaker 5: adds to this chaos. And that's the real big story here.
Speaker 9: I really, I really think that the hotel should be
Speaker 9: managed and making a lot of money, they should be
Speaker 9: mandated to hire a professional.
Speaker 3: You made that point, and I appreciate hearing it the
Speaker 3: second time one I got another call. I got to
Speaker 3: get in here before the break, So thank you very much.
Speaker 3: You made that point very well. Thank you, Bob and
Speaker 3: Rain and Bob you're going to wrap us up this hour,
Speaker 3: go right ahead.
Speaker 4: Hey, Dan, A couple of things, uh. First of all,
Speaker 4: I wish that everyone would stop calling these people mcgrants
Speaker 4: or migrants or whatever. They are invaders. They're invading our country.
Speaker 4: They were allowed to invade by these traders, including the dogs.
Speaker 3: Okay, no need to there's no need to get into
Speaker 3: a political rant here. If you've got a question for John,
Speaker 3: that would be great. Okay, it's a little late in
Speaker 3: the show to try to deal with whatever euphemism we
Speaker 3: want to use.
Speaker 4: Well it's not a euphanism, but anyway, there's I just
Speaker 4: hope that when Director Homan gets in. Uh, he has
Speaker 4: the intestinal fortitude that just as while we were sleeping
Speaker 4: in our beds with our kids and our wives thinking
Speaker 4: everything was safe, they were allowing these people to invade
Speaker 4: our state, city, country while we were sleeping. And I
Speaker 4: hope they do the same thing. When they get them
Speaker 4: out of here, they should pull up at two in
Speaker 4: the morning, load them on the buses.
Speaker 3: Okay, Bob, we'll take that conversation for another night. That's
Speaker 3: really a little off topic tonight. We're trying to focus
Speaker 3: on notions. But anyway, thanks very much for your call. Nonetheless,
Speaker 3: and John Featherston, thank you very much for being available
Speaker 3: tonight on short notice, and we're going to look forward
Speaker 3: to seeing what both the Globe and the Herald cap
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning. I suspect we've covened a great deal of
Speaker 3: the issues tonight.
Speaker 5: Hey Dan, can I just leave you with one closing thought. Sure,
Speaker 5: anybody who gets elected into public office, I think wants
Speaker 5: to do good in their community, and either if you're
Speaker 5: a Republican or Democrat, I think we can all agree
Speaker 5: on this statement that our first priority is always to
Speaker 5: take care of the children. You know, if you're a
Speaker 5: Republican or Democrat. Our first priority is always the kids
Speaker 5: and making sure they have a good education in their
Speaker 5: safe Okay, Governor failed a tremendous amount of children in
Speaker 5: the shelters, in the school systems. And it's not a
Speaker 5: partisan brant that I'm having here, but public really needs
Speaker 5: to take a step back and go we can really
Speaker 5: care about our kids anymore. And you know it's a
Speaker 5: serious it's a serious mind.
Speaker 3: Fair enough, John, I appreciate it. Let's keep in touch.
Speaker 5: Okay, come back on anytime. Thank you, Dan, Thanks for
Speaker 5: having me.
Speaker 3: You're more than welcome. Thank you for being available when
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