Speaker 1: Hello, lais gentleman, Welcome to the Weekly Geek. I am
your host, trust now and I can see that nothing
has changed as far as the changed. The title of
this didn't really what the fuck? That's super annoying whenever
only changed one place or another who knows? But uh, yes,
ladies gentlemen, and see, yeah the hell I change, so
who knows? H Yes, this Weekly Geek with myself and
just me right now. Taylorfield's gonna join us in just
a second for you know, anyone listening live or whatnot.
But yes, that'll be happening very soon here. And yeah,
we got lots to talk about today. He's actually just
finishing up because he had a little late stuff with
the teen so you know, bedtime it's a killer for
us parents sometimes, but he's just finishing. We're watching it.
We're talking about Jason short film today, and not like
a short film that's like, you know, we support fans
of all time, but it's actually made by the team
that owns Jason. Still don't know if they figured that out.
I think they figured out the rights. But we'll be
talking about that. We're gonna talk about we got lots
of lots of juicy news between just got some Batman
news before this, just got some in Spiderman news, maybe
Deadpool news. Lots of stuff, lots of rumors, good trailers
and lost update you on what I've been watching. I'm
not sure about Taylor will ask them. But yeah, I
was very happy after Golden Geeks because.
Speaker 2: There was.
Speaker 1: I had to watch, you know, a lot of nineteen
ninety four stuff I had seen but it had been
a minute and I still like to watch most of
it that I've not seen a bunch to.
Speaker 2: Get a refresher on.
Speaker 1: So it was the floodgates for the new movies had opened.
But yeah, we got lots of good stuff going on,
and they'll switch through this week. Usually get side Quest
right now, but we're switching up because we're doing some
sort of trivia with mister Muss. I don't know, but
it's an episode of all four of Us, so Crookan
couldn't do Monday, so we're doing Wednesday and then the
rest of the week. You got Alien Earth, which a
big thank you everyone that checked out the Alien Earth
episode because it's I'm very curious when we get to
you know, but I'm very curious when we get to
the end of the year to see our stats, because
I feel like the episodes have kind of been all
over as far as what I think is gonna not
do well, Like most like Superman's are number one, and
I called them. Okay, that's gonna be number one for
multitude of reasons. But there's stuff like our Alien Earth
episode they think everyone listens their thirteenth biggest episode of
the year so far, which is I don't know, I
didn't know the gaugement and who knows, we'll see what
episode two, episode three is, et cetera. But you know,
as always saying, and same thing with weapons weapons. There
is our fifth biggest review of the year, past Captain America,
past Thunderbolts, like not like Sinners, and then for a
while like our top two episodes were Sinners, and twenty
eight years later, I think there's still I can't ameber.
Speaker 2: I think it's two and three and then Superman. Then
F four is.
Speaker 1: One and two.
Speaker 2: So yes, the combat movies did come in and take
those spots.
Speaker 1: But the fact those have done so well I appreciate
because you never know it never especially Alien Earth. I'm like, like,
I know times people gonna watch it, but it's like,
you know, is is.
Speaker 2: That like a water cooler show? But we'll see. Maybe
the first episodes cares people off.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But we got Alien Earth later on
this week. I guess that's tomorrow. You got side quests,
Like I said, Peacemaker that starts. We'll be reviewing all
Peacemaker and then Dexter's still going on, and then the
big one.
Speaker 2: I think for people GV Day and go check out.
Speaker 1: I'm sporadically the podcast feeds had them all again, a
big I think I've been on. But still I'm gonna
always think you guys for GV Day, that was a
great day that now it has been a week in
a couple of days, just magic in the air. That's
that's a very special day. But you guys unlocked the
stretch goal, unlocked one of the goals, which was a
movie night, and before the stream, during the stream, after
the stream, there was you could just feel a wave
of people want War of the World, wants to do
movie da War the Worlds And that's what we're doing.
So this Saturday, it's gonna be at six pm PST.
We'll be watching War the World. The twenty twenty five
one with ice Cube, not not the Spielberg classic, you know,
which I haven't watched in a while.
Speaker 2: I don't know how well it holds up or not.
Speaker 1: But we're watching that's that movie that was like zero
present on ron Tomatoes for a while, and then think
it's up four down. Some people say it's one of
the worst things ever, but then other people say it's
so bad it's good.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I tried to stay away because I honestly heard about
this a little bit, and then I just saw that
was on Amazon. I thought it was in theaters, and
I'm like, well, I'm definitely not paying to see that.
Like I'm not. I don't have the time in my
life to go be seeing zero percent run Men movies
in the theaters, right, you know, with five kids, three jobs,
you know, filming, podcasting, the day job, It's like, I
don't got time for that. But then when I saw
Pompa my Google TV, like okay, it's on Amazon, all right,
and then I just once people started to talk about
and say, hey, this is something you know, we'd maybe
like the GB Squad to do, I was like, Okay,
I'm gonna do my best to stay away from it
just in case we do watch it, and yeah we are.
So if you want to join Patreon Phase two tier
and up call in for the moren't the World's watch
long movie Night, We'll be doing that. Like I said,
six pm PST. What else for the patrons if you want,
you can join patrons. You guys got now when this
drops on podcast feed and I I apologize, there's gonna
be a plane going by. Usually I throw it to
one of the boys, but like I said, it is late,
so I'm holding this down until he gets in here.
Speaker 2: Usually or sorry.
Speaker 1: Now, when you're listening to this, you got about ten
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other stuff you enjoy it. For the War of the World,
you enjoin it. We got every episode we've ever done
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got some ten year content. We didn't finish our top
ten video games and TV shows. We just couldn't get
time to finish it. But that will be coming exclusively
for the patrons. But yeah, so we oh so, yeah,
you got ten days to vote. You got exclusive episodes,
early episodes every episodes, all that good jazz.
Speaker 2: But yeah, our nineteen ninety four Golden Geese, the nominees
are out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at the dock at right now and
it's yeah, it's I always love because let's see even Yeah,
there's a couple of these that I thought was gonna
be like just game over and it's not. So it's
gonna be interesting when we get down to that. But uh, yeah,
it's I think it's because we're doing a Geek first
on the Saturday of d twenty three, so that's gonna
be a D twenty three show, but also to announced
the winners of Golden Geek, so we're doing that. Yeah,
just lots of good stuff subscribed feeds. We very much
appreciate it. I've done all the plugging and then finally
on my little thing, I gotta pull up. I think
I have on a calendar. So now, obviously GV Day,
we had some announcements where you bring the Gauntlet back,
we'll talk about that more on Extra Life or around
Extra Life, or bring it back just for the Gauntlet
or just for Extra Life. Our two teasers are up
for our next two films, so you go look at
that and then I did announce obviously that trash Told
You is going, uh twice a week. That's just because
so honestly, god, it's a loud car. Uh, that's just because, honestly,
the way my schedule's gonna work out. You know what
I feel like I need, like the clip. What's the
longest clip we have here? Oh my god, we got
no long clip. We'll play it.
Speaker 3: Well, let's make this simple.
Speaker 4: I say name, You say Scott Calvin, name, Chris, Gregel
name sent a class name, Paran Noel Babo, Tally Pare's
Nicole Papa Show.
Speaker 3: Okay, Calvin, maybe a couple hours in the geek first
go change your mind.
Speaker 1: There you go, Tayorfield Classic. Better than the loudest fucking
car hits the people over there. They got some loud
vehicles every time they leave loud stuff. But anyways, I
did announce Trass Told You is going twice a week.
As I've said before, I think that's starting the second
week of September, not the first week of September, because
you know, just that's back.
Speaker 2: To school other stuff's going on.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the plane is right now, is going to
be Monday and Wednesday. It's gonna I'm trying to narrow
down a time, but I'm thinking like twelve thirty pm
PSC every day because the way it works is because
I get an hour lunch break, and once kids go
back to school and when twins are doing daycare and
Emily's doing stuff, whether it's working other things, I'm gonna
have time and I like to take I'm a person
that I take all my breaks together. I don't like
a fifteen there, hour there. And obviously there's sometimes if
people are sick whatnot, that can always change. So if
they can't do an hour break, sometimes it might be
pre recorded, because it might record it like before work
or after work, or it might switch a day or two.
But that's kind of the plan right now is Monday
and Wednesday in the afternoon. So if there's some podcasts
that drops at midnight in the morning, got that, But
then mine will drop as well. And it's gonna be
you know, like regular Trash told you, but it's gonna
be those Those are gonna be like just an hour,
half an hour to an hour. Sometimes they might just
be half an hour. It's just gonna be gonna get
on there about a single topic, maybe a couple if
it's there, But I'll try and pick topics that I
feel that are Obviously we'll still have newscasts, but I
mean I'll probably try and pick topics that are more
just tras oriented that I can just rant on for
a little bit, and uh yeah, they're gonna.
Speaker 2: Be like Monday, You're gonna be lots of blocks office talk.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was, but uh yeah, I
got up something planned for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: There's twenty six I can reveal. It's not a big plant.
Speaker 1: Don't worry.
Speaker 2: It's like what is he?
Speaker 1: We were killing time? I've talked too for many years,
and last year obviously the Twins games, I didn't have time.
I very much want to in the early year. So
one day we'll always be news and then the next
day if there's news in a topic that I'll definitely
talk about it. But the thing I'm gonna do is
I want to do like a March Madness for actors
and actresses.
Speaker 2: Though because I've always talked.
Speaker 1: To me like, oh, here's my top ten, here's that,
Like obviously I have mine, but I've always want to
put a list like, hey, who currently not of all time?
Currently and by current, I'd say, like I'm gonna say,
taking the last five years bodywork. To me, that's when
you look at who's the best currently five years is
like a good to.
Speaker 2: Me referendum of that.
Speaker 1: But what am I gonna do is I'm gonna same
thing as Oscars or Golden Geeks. I'm gonna make the list,
but you guys are gonna vote and then we're gonna
go over the results every day and see who gets it.
Because like for me, it's funny because like for a while,
I always said it was like for actresses. For while
I had Lapita there, and then Florence Pugh took her place,
and then Emmastone. I think Emistone's a current go for actors.
I don't know because I thought Adam Driver. I still
think he is pound for pound. If you give him
a script, along with everybody else, he can do it.
I think he's had some strings of some stuff. Megalapolis
did not help. But that's kind of what it's gonna be.
If there's no news, I'm always gonna have stuff in
the back pocket and I'm gonna ask you guys and
gals and everyone else in between. As far as like Hey,
we want me to talk about broad evergreen stuff. But yeah,
always gonna try and keep it about half an hour,
two an hour, and yeah, just because I have the time,
you can get a tiger with it. Because we were
tinkering with some other stuff too. You know, even me
and Taya talked about tinkering with some stuff. So uh yeah,
we'll see lots of good stuff. Then that's why again,
big thank you to everybody that you know support us,
GV Day supports, patrons, listen to the show. We like
we said we've had, We're having our best numbers in
the last two and a half years because everyone listens
and supports us. That's when I can go, hey, we
can afford to do some trash totally try that. We
can afford to made this new show we've talked about
doing in the new year, like that type of stuff.
There's other things we talked about bringing back and everything.
So and look out twenty twenty six, it's gonna be
a fun time. We got fun retros planned. I'm not
sure when we're gonna have the poles up for I
definitely have to Golden Geeks at some point in the fall.
We will do the retro poll, because as we said,
you guys unlocked that the patrons are gonna loock a
movie franchise and we're gonna do it. We have I
have to discuss with the boys. I think it's gonna
be a limit of seven to eight as far as
the films I have to see because we have retros
planned out for the year and then I think it's
like seven eight months where there's some wiggle room. But
I will take a look. Some stuff could always be moved.
But because I wasn't sure if we're gonna get that,
and again thinking everyone that support hasn't hit that stretch
goal and whatnot. So yeah, I'm trying to think, is
there anything else? Chat? If you have anything to ask me,
just personally fire away before Taylor gets in here. I
don't want to go go into the topics. So, oh my,
what the fuck is that?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Do you see this thing that?
Speaker 1: Do you see that thing in the green room there?
Speaker 2: Did you see the thing? Did you see the thing
on the green room when you came in?
Speaker 3: What am I looking at?
Speaker 1: Okay, watch hang on, hang on, watch.
Speaker 3: Waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting. It's Taylor Field
by the way Lakewater. Taylor Field joined Travis the Podcast
Travis Enter the Studio.
Speaker 1: Do you see that that update, which I feel like
you don't really need that because I feel like it's
just like you can see at the bottom. But there
would go harder for me to sneak in and mess
with you and Kirkle when that happens, you know. Yeah,
now we know how you been and you can talk.
A loud family behind me.
Speaker 3: Loud family. Is it your family or is it a
baseball family? Oh, it's one of those families. Oh, I'm
doing good.
Speaker 1: It's busy.
Speaker 3: Mondays are busy. My goodness, got my mom coming to
town tomorrow. Got just doing dacete day stuff, you know,
trying to get all expenses adult stuff sorted out before
the end of the month, and vacation coming up at
the beginning of next month, and all this just craziness
and craziness and yeah, that's pretty much it. Nothing nothing else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently my street corners like the busiest ever been.
I actually, because it was a bit lighter, I would
have podcast inside. But our ac is out. We're gonna
the repair guys come and look at it tomorrow. But
and luckily it's cooler here, but I'm really hoping before
fry because Frice supposed to get really hot here. But yeah,
the AC went out on Oh just to do you
haven't watched it and I this is other thing. Yeah,
check out the gimmicks back in two weeks and then
I do. I just haven't had the time. I am
going to re edit the last GMO stream we did,
just a nightmare stream t I'm not gonna get into
because we had long cast. But also I was in
my bedroom with no AC what so the AC went out,
so it was in that bedroom no AC, so just
like sweating like for two hours. The stream end of
going two and a half hours, because what happened was
one because I had a fan plugged in, I forgot
to plug in the GV laptop so that died midstream,
so I had to boot the stream up. And then
there was the when we played the game in March,
we had service issues. Ever since then, we've never had issue.
The crashing on us three times so we had to
start over on some certain saves and you can't start
exactly where we are, so we had to repeat some
stuff and then in the middle of the stream s
Pubbs's PlayStation had to update, so we had it wasn't
long but like update so it was just like a
complete disaster.
Speaker 2: And like I said, I even was said Tom, I'm like, okay,
we got no IC.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this really quick as it's it's every
time we start a new season GM mode, it's like
that the episode one's the shortest because we only do.
Speaker 2: A few things just to set it up.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh this is this would be
the quick one and yeah, I jinxed it in Yeah,
longest GMO stream. I was sweating like the Dickens. It
was just and literally with the laptop with the servers.
There's been no issues for five months and that day
where I'm sweating like a race hog. Yeah it's a
but you know, GMO God, you know, gonna'm gonna go
three and oh soon you know look out.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, let's get into it, mister Field.
Speaker 1: What have you been watching? If anything?
Speaker 3: Let me look at the last size I went and
saw weapons again.
Speaker 2: You talked about that?
Speaker 3: Did I talk about that?
Speaker 1: I swear you did the room that.
Speaker 3: We've been watching. I know I dropped it in the discord.
Speaker 1: No, you did with kirkle Mass because you saw it
on cheap Tuesday, right, and you guys did weekly ego Wednesday.
Speaker 3: No, actually I took Madison on a Thursday. I think
that makes no sense.
Speaker 2: I well, no, wait, no weekly It was Thursday, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: You guys talked to Madison August thirteenth? What day was
August thirteenth? That was a Wednesday?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the Thursday's weekly geek when you talked
about it.
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought Tuesday was the weekly ge Thursday was
a weekly Okay.
Speaker 1: No, you guys did on the fourteenth. I got it
right here.
Speaker 3: The fourteenth, So yeah, that was okay, that was good.
I'll leave that. But other than that, what did I watch?
I watched since and sensibility?
Speaker 1: Was that a Madison pick? I?
Speaker 3: How did I get onto this? So? I saw a trailer.
I'm not even sure if it's one of the ones
that you included in tonight, but it has what is
her name? It has? Oh?
Speaker 2: Where is wins?
Speaker 3: Emma Thompson is basically up north Buring, which no, I
don't know. I don't know if it is one of
the ones you included tonight, but she's basically she's up
north and she's scattering her husband's ashes. But she sees
a girl run out of the bushes and like serial killer,
someone is like a ducts her and takes this woman
back to his A new movie. It's a new movie.
Speaker 1: I saw Sensibility.
Speaker 3: No, no, this is a movie, but this this is
the start of the journey. So I saw, okay, Emma Thompson,
and Emma Thompson goes like full Rambo and trying to
save this woman in this house. What and it's just
by complete fluke. I So I was like, I'm gonna
just click on Emma Thompson's IMDb and I saw this
movie Sensensibility. I saw, oh, it's Jane Austen, you know,
same author who did Pride and Prejudice. Madison really likes
Pride and preasuders. I thought, O, let's put it on
because we watched The Dutchess not too long ago, and
I thought that, let's kind of stick with this because
the movie is Hugh Grant has Kate Winslet, Alan Rickman, like,
it's got a pretty awesome characters. Hugh Laurie is in
there too, you know, house, what's up?
Speaker 2: Movie is this? Is it the Dead of the winter.
Is it that one?
Speaker 3: Or is it you take place in winter? So it
could be that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, she's like wearing a tuc It looks like yes,
that's the yeah. Woman traveling alone snowbown Nor then interrupts
the teenage girl hours for the nearest town no fuld service.
She realizes she's the young girls only help. Wow, that's interesting.
That's uh, that's got Judy Gears in this. Okay, that's
got me. It's got me curious. Okay, what's this director done?
Speaker 3: So it's definitely on my radar because I just thought, oh,
you know, Amma Thompson and whatnot. But I thought it
was funny because Emma tops Emma Thompson in this sense
and sensibility movie is opposing love interest? Is you grant
and yet their brother and sister when you get into
love actually, and then it's funny because Emma Thompson is
married to Alan Brickman in that movie, but then he
is basically the love interest of Kate Winslet in this movie.
And then you have the lady who played Professor I'm
who's in Sensenus Disability as well. It's just it's a
whole you know, all the British.
Speaker 1: All the love actually Potter people. Yeah, I think I
don't know if I've seen that movie in full. If
I have, it's been a long time ago.
Speaker 3: It's a long movie. It cat me off guard how
long it was. I mean, it's just over two hours,
but it feels a lot longer than that. But in
a good way. We enjoyed those movies. They're they're fun
to watch and break down. Other than that, I think
we're just kind of Madison started watching The Office again,
so that's been up and run.
Speaker 2: We shot that every year.
Speaker 3: We usually do it every year. Yeah, and I've been
thinking about maybe giving it a go and watching that
new Office Paper Company show that came out where all
the paper, Yeah the paper has jumped over and he's
he's the same character but on that show, so we'll see.
I might get into that. But other than that, I
think I'm just starting to get into the Halloween mood
now because you get up in the morning, it's got
that fall kind of vibe making ooh Halloween. I want
those Yeah, But I'm there, I'm there. I'm waiting for
the Halloween stores to open.
Speaker 1: Up end of August. They should be open and we
looked at because we're about coutumes and whatnot, so.
Speaker 2: That itches inst in sensibility. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, just just that. I did see on Netflix
that they added no Country for Old Men, So I'm
gonna be popping that up because I'm streaming. I didn't
see it on streaming anywhere for a while, so I'm
hopping on that. I can't wait to watch it.
Speaker 2: You could ask me more of my Blu Ray.
Speaker 3: You know you got the Blu Ray.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1: That's the top I think I have all all my
movies that are on top ten. I own physical Yeah
that's good. Yeah, you can check out the Patron. We
did a whole episode of that, like our top ten
and whatnot. But yeah, I just yeah that to.
Speaker 3: Me, your physicals of top ten TV shows.
Speaker 1: So I well, I don't want to spoil a list
when we get there, but I I think I do.
I honestly think I do. Yeah, because I I think
most of my favorite shows. I will say this is
not a smoil. People would understand it there, Hannibal, I
don't own that. I should see if there's some sort
of box that or something because I actually or like
in the Fall or in the winter one to watch
it and it was streaming nowhere. I made the mistake.
It was on Netflix that went off, So I should
actually make a note of that. I'm sure they've made Ah,
you know, let's see box sets somewhere.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you can get like a Blu ray on
Amazon fifty four bucks seasons one to three.
Speaker 1: There we go. So maybe I will have to uh,
I'll have to uh put down the Christmases there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I've watched a lot.
Speaker 1: Let's see. I suppose as that paper show is a
cash grab, but it's like five years too late. Ride
the COVID office bringing hype. I agree. So I'm not
an office so here we've talked about before. But in
case people are new, I'm a massive fan. I can't
say massive, like I watched it everything like you watch
it every year. Yeah that's I'm like, i can't say
I'm massive, but I'm saying I'm a massive enjoyer and
a big fan of the English office that had like
Martin Freeman and the guy who's the fucking guy in
Pirates that has the one eye what's his name in Pirates?
Speaker 3: His name in Pirates is Raggedy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he plays the Dwight role in the British Office,
and then I'll see Ricky Gervais. So I love that,
did not love the American Office. Don't think it's completely offline.
I think it's also just like for me, it's overrated.
I think the way people talk about it, I just
feel like this is it's probably the same way I
talk about Friends, like but like, you know, Friends is
actually high quality TV.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so the only reason I'm yeah, absolutely, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh, the only reason I'm interested in the paper is
just because of Donald Gleeson's in it though, So that's
the only reason I've thought about watching it.
Speaker 2: He plays like the Steve Carell role in this. I
think he's the.
Speaker 1: Boss who's like really kind of a loop. Yes, yes, yeah,
and he he is like I never thought you'd want
my favorite actors, but he is an actor that like,
if he's in anything, I will watch it, Like I
watched a show where him and Steve Carell.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you've heard of this at all.
There's a show I think it was last year or
the year before.
Speaker 1: Steve Carell is a therapist and he gets kidnapped by
a serial killer Domino Place and Gleason Place, Serial.
Speaker 3: Kills killing a thing that might have been I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I can't remember how I walt. I
feel like I watched on Amazon. But anyway, so he
kidnapped Steve Grell and just says like, you're gonna be
locked in my basement until you make it that I
don't kill people.
Speaker 3: And it was like patient.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a good, like little mini series.
Speaker 1: I think it ended like kind of a little ant
like it almost ended like there should be another season,
but there was it. But yeah, it was an interesting
can therapists as, hey, you gotta help me and I'm not,
and you go to I don't want to kill people.
Speaker 2: But it's good. I watched a couple a year.
Speaker 1: Fuck what was it. There's some show to where he
was like with a a woman and they said, like
by the age of forty, they'd run away together no
matter what their lives where I can't remember, but yeah,
dom Hello. Gleason's kind of guy that I'll watch anything,
and so I might watch the paper just for him.
But I don't think S Pubs is wrong about too
late on the COVID hype, and I feel like they
I know, the Oscar guys in it. I feel like
they need like one to two more office characters as well.
I think that would have helped. But you never know,
maybe it'll catch on. But uh, yeah, so I said
this before you got on, before a wee get the news,
I'll finish what we've been watching. I had some I
had a fun game, but I'm not gonna play it
tonight because we got lots of news I got.
Speaker 2: I had some news I didn't even hit you with.
There was some breaking news, Taylor, So creating.
Speaker 3: News is that?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Hang on, let me guess. Is that too? Fuck? Oh
I saw something.
Speaker 1: Fuck, there's one in the discord. But then there's one
that just happened, like in the last hour. You would
not the.
Speaker 3: Rings right, yes, fro Do, Yeah, that was the last
hour because I saw twelve hours ago.
Speaker 1: No, that was the discord one I said. The other
one is there's scuttlebut going around that Zoe Kravitz is
in the Batman too. That's what I added that I
didn't tell you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I just assumed she would be you
would she would be Yeah, I just assumed she would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what we're gonna tell about the news.
The fact that she's yeah, no, I said, wouldn't be not,
would be?
Speaker 3: Oh, wouldn't be.
Speaker 2: Yes, That's why I put in the news.
Speaker 3: Yes, this news.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm the same as you. It's like like the
deadful thing. Yeah, I can assume that because so we'll
get there, but I'll quickly run down the list here. So,
for the first time since the the years, we watched
Superman because that was her own digital so we got
that kid's been asking to watch it again. I I
hasn't seen it, so we watched it. They loved it.
I think I'm about the same like I have like
I think I'm very much right, exactly the same, maybe
a little more on the same point five like a
little more disliking it, but not like to a huge degree.
But anyway, so we were watched this whole time. We're
locked in and I don't know why, I guess right,
because babies were starting to sleep. It was kind of quiet,
so we weren't talking that much about the movie. This
is Emily's first time watching it. And then we put
the kids to bed. So what do you think about Superman?
And she goes, oh, no, bueno. I'm like, what, Yeah,
I hated it.
Speaker 2: She hated super Yes, she would give it a failing grade.
Speaker 1: She's like doubles on it. Yeah, she'd give it a
failing though she hadn't seen it yet.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we're gonna I think, because she hasn't
seen all the Marvel movies.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna wait till that for us out
and then we'll watch Cat thunderbe It's and four like
all together, like wait for like a nice cold like
fall day or like a shitty day out and just
watch them all together because the kids really want to
watch Fantastic Four. But I still think so I think
it's a better home watch to me, Like, I just
think there's a lot of talking in there that's science jargon.
But yeah, and I was because I've said this before.
I know Superman's divisive, so but I still thought the
lowest you'd be like, oh it was okay. But I
did not think she said she hated but her primary
thing she just once she said the writing wasn't that good,
which I kind of gran some points I had. I
was defending the movie a lot last night. I couldn't
believe myself. But and then too, she just found it.
She was just too cheesy for so I think it's uh,
which I've heard some people say that too. It's like
almost too comic booky, so for it was just too cheesy.
So but it's funny that like to show like we're
not the same. Like she actually like kind of enjoyed
the Jimmy Olsen stuff where I'm like, oh, that sounds awful,
like I cut it.
Speaker 2: Off, get out of here, get out of here.
Speaker 1: I watched also let's see sis my mom hates Superman
said it was too corny and for kids that that's
the same take that. You know what I say, Oh
I screwed up Tres you said scuttle, but that Zoi
Kratz is in the Batman.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's my thank you.
Speaker 3: That's I was getting confused.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm just on fucking you know when I'm really
getting When we got a spice, Oh my god, I
got the lot Oft car in a fucking plane coming
at me right now. It's like World War two. I
literally was gonna cast inside because lately it's been busy
on the rope. Like I said, the ac that is
a no bueno. But no, it's funny, I suppose because
there's a coup people. I talked to them vogr stream,
which obviously they like a lot of snyers. So but
other people too, where it's just like that is a thing,
and it's funny because I feel even at times when
I watched the cartoons with the Emily, she's like, oh,
like these again like Superman or Batman. So I do
think if you don't like that type of stuff, I
now I've heard from more like on one hand amount
of people saying it's cheesy. So it's obviously it still
did good enough, but it's it's interesting to see like
after the fact. So yeah, there going spubs Emily. It
was the same as my But anyways, I watched oh
that fucking Loud Cars back. I had to play your
Santa Claus tim Allend clip because this car was super loud,
so I let them watch that for three seconds.
Speaker 2: Uh so yeah, I'll just quickly rattle off.
Speaker 1: At the end of the year, I review all these ones, but.
Speaker 3: Santa Claus again always.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I watched the Surfer Taylor, you should definitely
watch the Surfer. That was that Nick Cage one where yeah,
where he's like wanting to surf and they won't let
him surf because he doesn't live there. Man.
Speaker 2: It's just like a like a grade A class and like, like.
Speaker 1: I guess I think it's like words I am because
I'm trying to I don't want to spoil it, because
I do think you should watch it because it does
have some Nick Cage isms in there. There's some stuff
you would just laugh and just gotta chuck out. They
they have these zoom in's on his face that are like,
I don't know, he's just like in a dream state
and the zooming on his face.
Speaker 2: It's just pure Nick Cage is. But uh, I'll just
say it.
Speaker 1: There's a big theme of gas lighting in the movie
and I think they did that very well. And again
I said this in the discord. Just made me even
more sadder Julia McMahon has passed away because Julie macmanon
was in Niptok, one of my favorite shows in all seasons,
and then like he did like a lot like other
TV like he was in like CBS is like FBI,
and I was like, oh, man, like he's such an
underappreciated actor, like his agent whoever just put him and
stuff like he's so much better than this, Like this
is a guy who was like auditioning.
Speaker 2: For Bond, like next to Daniel Craig.
Speaker 1: Like this guy has the hood spa and like in
The Surfer, he's such a fun layer villain.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: My only issue with the movie is it feels like,
I can't say in a nonsports way, but it feels
like there's a whole act missing. They just from one
thing to another. It's like, oh, I would have liked
more of that. Like the I'd say the ending is crazy,
but it's kind of rushed to it. But man, Julie
mcmanon so fucking good. And I'm so like depressed by
that because I feel like people would have seen this
and we would start seeing him getting cast and like
other things. And yeah, I highly recommend watching The Surfer yet,
especially for you t I think with the Nick Cage,
stuff you'll like is whenever it pops up streaming service.
Speaker 2: Get that. Very interesting to hear your thoughts on Eddington.
What's up about that?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Eddington?
Speaker 1: Again, there's just been interviews. You remember what Edyton was too?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the in the town with uh what's
his name? Oh god, Phoenix Emperor, yeah, the Emperor from Rome, yeah, the.
Speaker 1: Emperor from oh and Gladiating. I'm like, what a poll
like the movie he did like years ago, let's see. Yeah,
So I I did not see in theaters. I still
wanted to. But it also is a movie that people
know my thoughts here where I was like, if I
don't get around to him, not heartbroken because I've said
this before, it's a movie about COVID. I have no
interest in revisiting COVID COVID movies or storylines right now
because we're just like, that's not that far away, and
that was a shit time, like for me at least,
Like I said, there's tons of stuff I've always like,
all of us, right, we've talked about it, but like,
especially having kids, there's nothing to like. Luckily we could
be at home, but there's only so many times you
can do a movie night and you can walk, especially
in winter. It's like everything was just shut down and
all this right, so it's like not a time I
want to revisit right now.
Speaker 2: So I was, and I'll say that's one thing about
the movie.
Speaker 1: I think it encapsulates that tremendously and conscapsulates how much
it sucks and encapsulates how much people were like at
odds with each other, the paranora, how you can just
fall down certain rabble holes, like who you can trust about,
like a lot of political stuff like it. It's nail
like hit. I keep fucking this expiration of this expression up,
but it hits the nail on the head for the
COVID times. I think the third actsica.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like satisfied, and not in a way
because it's like, man, COVID really suck. No, I just
like felt like okay, like it felt like we were
really building and it didn't. I don't know, it felt
maybe a little anti climastic. Has a lot of like
other political stuff too in there that it has to
do with like riots and black lives matter, So they
hit on a lot and that's the other thing. There's
a lot of the movie, and there's also a lot
of great actors. But I was kind of disappointed how
little they were in there. I'm sure they did that
just so they can get them in pay wise, but uh, no,
I thought was really good. I think ari Aster is
still like even though Bo is afraid, Bo was afraid
it's a super fucking weird movie. And this is his
least weird movie, like Bo's Afraid, Midsomar and Hereditary all
like supernatural or like weird stuff. This is just a
flat out like nothing, no twist there, and it's a
flat out it's these people in COVID. It's a modern
day Western. So I still give it like a four
and five. Thought it was very well made. Not a
movie I think I'll ever like Rewatch. I think Walking's
great into the walking. You know, he always had some
stuff behind scenes, sometimes being hard to work with, but like.
Speaker 2: That guy is just so damn good. I watched Heads
of State. Do you know what that movie is, Taylor?
Speaker 3: That's the John Cena one and what's the other guy opposite?
Speaker 1: What do you think I gave that?
Speaker 3: Oh? I think he liked it more than you thought
you would. I think he probably out of five I'm
gonna say you gave it a three point five, maybe
a four out of five.
Speaker 2: Wow, no one started down from your initial two point
five out of five. He was fine.
Speaker 1: It was fine.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not gonna say it.
Speaker 1: And in case people aren't are gonna watch it, but
there is a cameo, and that person that cameos is
only in it for about two to four minutes, and
they steal the entire movie from John c and Irisalba
And that guy is just the fucking shit and I
love him and everything. I'll wait to talk about this
more when we get uh with Dylan, because he wanted
to wait till what we've been watching.
Speaker 2: But I watched Bring Her Back.
Speaker 1: You remember that one.
Speaker 2: Guys that did talk to me? It was like looking
like that satanic movie.
Speaker 1: Oh you gotta well, you should watch it, even though
you're the persons like I don't want to watch the
extorsy spring that stub Bay home. It is like that.
Speaker 2: It's a super fucking you might have to watch. It
might be my Golden Geeks pick.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I rarely in movies WinCE orm really
that surprised. There was three times in this movie that
happened to me. What a ride. And it's like Sally
Hawkins is fucking incredible. The kid I can't remember his name,
but he's on the poster. That kid is fucking incredible.
The acting in this movie is just sublime. It's like
I think it could be like a little longer I
think it runs like it's a little faster pace than
I want. But there's some stuff in your too. I
don't even want to say it. So when you see
the first time, it's, uh, it's gnarly, it's it. You
will win. It's gross because it's my favorite type of pain.
Where sometimes in the Saw movies they'll do stuff for.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know what that feels like.
Speaker 1: I've never done this. Stuff happens in this movie, like, oh,
I know what I would feel like, and it went
to that degree that'd be awful. So it's uh, yeah,
I'll just say if anyone's seen the movie, the fruit
eating scene, holy fuck.
Speaker 2: That was the first thing that happened.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. And it goes on
for so god damn long.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I I love that movie. That's probably when
my favorite horror movie is the last decade.
Speaker 1: It was it true because I like to talk to
me a lot, but I didn't love it, Like I
didn't love it, but bring her back, man, that was fantastic.
Talk more in films on But uh, let's see, I
supposed to get Oh you're say I had to say.
I give it three out of five, A huge fan
of the directory.
Speaker 2: Yeah I saw it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was a fun time. I had to say,
like it wasn't offensive, Like I just didn't. I never
really laughed other than that cameo Wes spops and I
was like chuckling. I still thought, even if it's a
bad movie, I might laugh more, but I didn't. And
then I think the last one I can talk about
here is I watched Together. Do you remember what that is? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah that was Franco and his wife right how.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they get stuck together. Yeah, it was pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's like I said on TV Day, though, I was
spoiled by the ending, so it kind of sucks the
whole movie's building to it. No, no, what when do
I just go and spoil stuff? The movie just came
out a couple of weeks ago. I spoiled by the ending,
so that that sucked because I like, it's like, how's
this gonna get resolved? And I'd seen an image like okay,
this how it's gonna get resolved? But uh yeah, really interesting.
The best way I described it's one of those horror
movies that feels like it would be a in an
anthology or like an episode of Tales of the crypt
but it's like expanded and kind of the same thing.
I think they could have dove into some stuff like
I feel like, honestly, like most of my biggest complain
about movies this year is like they're just not long,
and that could be theater wise, that could be the budget,
so I get that, but there's just so much time
where I'm like, oh, this movie, we had like twenty
more minutes, it'd be just a little bit better.
Speaker 2: But no, I think you'll really enjoy it.
Speaker 1: There's some there's some like body horror stuff in there,
but I don't think anything like I even think, like
you Madison could watch it and like it could be
a fun type of date night.
Speaker 2: We don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: The third ie gets a little little gross, but like,
I don't think it's it gets like just on the
line of being too over the top. But I think
there's also actually some good relationship stuff in there. Obviously
they're marriage is of good chemistry, but there's actually some
really good just like stuff I think everybody could kind
of relate to at one point another from whether it's
the male or female perspective, and yeah, it's yeah, I
don't want to say more because I think you'll see
that one and I think, uh, I think you'll enjoy that.
I get it like a four out of five. That
one was really, really enjoyable. I would watch again because
it's fun, but I'm not and no rush. And then
the other thing I will watch is A We're gonna
talk about again because I'm gonna wait until I finish it,
but I can't remember. It didn't get much love. It
got one nom in the nineteen ninety four Goal and
I feel like, what did on letterbox? Didn't you give
interview with the Vampire four to five? Were you somewhere
around then? Did you enjoy that movie?
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the movie. Yeah, I was telling masters about
the TV show and how you were enjoying.
Speaker 1: You should fucking watch it, man, This show is so
much better this And like the guy that plays Lastat
seen him in fucking only eight hours of my life.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to put them on the man crush list.
Speaker 1: This fucking guy, Sam Reid, where has he been my
whole life? He's so goddamn good because what he does
is the stat is he gets he choose the scenery
like Cruise did in the movie, but he actually brings
it down and make it like a believable character. He
doesn't feel like he's always so broad all the time.
And man, it's so good and like just like put
it in perspective, like I don't know, spoilers for nineteen
ninety four, you know that movie, but like they let's
they try to kill La Stat at one point, right,
like Tom Cruise and what would you say, that's like
forty five forty minutes in the movie something like that.
Speaker 3: Right Ean Longer, I feel like, do you think?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: It felt like it was definitely a ways off from
the start of the movie.
Speaker 1: Really okay three and a half though, Okay, the show
I think you'll enjoy more save for Spooky Season. But
either way, like when they try to kill the Stat
that's not till the finale of season one and that's
eight hours. So to put in perspective, how much in
the book they and there's so much in the book
they leave about how much stuff is not in the
movie versus the book. But yeah, it was I just
I've heard good things about it, and I like the
movie interview with Vampire. It's fun, but it does feel
like it's lacking. So it's Okay, I've heard good things
and I don't know why I clicked on. Maybe it's
just I was doing like lower diving. I saw that
they had, like there's thirteen books and stuff. But yeah,
this show I got to see a season two goes
in season three. Obviously I can't do it now, but
this this is a show I could end up my
top ten. This is just a traps show too, but like,
I love it.
Speaker 2: It's war it's weird, it's sexy.
Speaker 1: And this guy who Sam Reid, who's playing with the
stat which is so good because I haven't even finished
season two, and I watched the trailer for season three
because season three is all about just the stat when
he tries to become a rock star. Holy fuck man,
I cannot. I'm telling you, if you, if anyone likes vampires,
you like or if you like anything, that movie, fucking
watch the interview of the vampire. I believe the hype.
I've heard the hype. Oh my god, man, this show.
I was hooked.
Speaker 2: I went through that.
Speaker 1: I watched a couple episodes and then I went through
one season one day. It was man, it was good,
good stuff.
Speaker 3: So amc how about that?
Speaker 2: It's on crave.
Speaker 3: If you have crave, it's on Crave. Okay, yeah, Crave,
So there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah and then yeah, no picture in questions, Uh, Clay,
we didn't have time because Taylor was late and then
I was with the pool the kids and just got
we'd have time to watch the trailers, Taylor, you do
a quick look up as iconogphy. Yes, if we're Richard
link Later fans, and I think, I.
Speaker 2: Like, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I am a fan of his work, but I don't
think if I'm making a list of the top twenty five,
I'll say favorite directors. I won't say best, I'll say favorite.
I don't think he's on there for me, Like stuff
like Boyhood. I think it's a really cool thing. Do
you remember the movie they did a couple of years
ago where they found this kid and they filmed him
for like ten years, and like in the movie, he like, oh,
you've never heard of this. No, it's a movie that
they filmed for ten years and they let the kid
age like naturally. So every year they would get together,
it's Ethan Hawk and Pritra Surecat. They'd like go through
all his like elementary to high school, at graduation and
they filmed like scenes every year, so the kid was aging.
They didn't get a new actor. He was always aging,
and all the actors did too, very cool experiment. I
just let the movie itself other than the gimmick was fine.
Even Hitman last year with Glenn Palell. I enjoyed it,
but I did not love it like I thought I
was going to. I think that's a movie that was
heavily like because the actors came to play. I enjoyed it,
but and like Adria her name, I keep forgetting Petrea Drona. Yeah,
I I was a little disappointed, like I'll look more,
but yeah, I I don't think he's he's one of
my guys. I think he'd always make a movie that
I'm always gonna pass and like probably like a bare
minimum seven out of ten. But uh, and I have
to watch I've actually never finished the Midnight series, so
I have to do that.
Speaker 2: But oh, did he do school Rock?
Speaker 1: He did?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, and that's that to me is like Jack Black's
probably best performance too.
Speaker 3: Man, which came out two years ago. I ever saw
that one, though, Were you just talking about that? I
was just talking about Sorry, I was looking at all
the different things on his list. Here, there's this movie
that he did with Keanu Reeves called a Scanner Darkly.
Have you heard of this? Yeah? Oh yeah?
Speaker 1: That Animeo one.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And then isn't it based.
Speaker 3: Off of Donny Jr. W on A Ryder, Woody Harrelson,
Kenna Reeves? Holy shit?
Speaker 1: Oh and I feel like it's I thought it was
based off someone's work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Philip K.
Speaker 1: Dick. So the same writer that did that, wrote Blade
Runner and stuff like that. Like he's a big sci
fi writer. It's based off his work. I feel like
I've seen old when he's young. So I have no
idea that'd be a that Yeah, what a cast Kean
and Woody Harrelson. Yet, I should take a look at that.
But yeah, so I like his work and maybe Clay
I do need to go back, like, look at that
Scanning Darkly. I need to watch the Midnight series. I'm
not sure if you know what that is. Say there
there's like a there's a trilogy, it's a wrong con trilogy.
Or I'll say a romantic movie of just different eras
of this couple and stuff like that. I think they
might break up. It's like, oh, I guess it's because
before sunset, before midnight, what's the first one? Hang on,
there is another one? Oh before sunrise? There you go.
Speaker 2: So maybe I'm gonna get some of his older stuff.
Speaker 1: But the stuff that I have seen more recently haven't
like absolutely loved. But you know, yeah, Days and Confused
five star movies I love, yeah, exactly like that kind
of like an obvious one. I have to go back
and watch it. Two. It's been a while, but like
that's one that, yes, is great, but that's where it's
the overall catalog. But David too, Nick a couple of
weeks ago. Yeah, there's controversy because I'm we'll get in
the news here. But Taylor, uh me, Tanna Kirkland saw
name going together. I assume a side. Yeah, he was
having a gay old time. He was laughing his ass
off and then look at his letterbox. Three point five
out of five. He can say whatever he wants. He
was not laughing, like a three point five out of five.
I gave it a four point five out of five
because not like every joke hit with me, but the
ones that did really play.
Speaker 2: It and I loved it. Like that's a movie. I'm
gonna watch.
Speaker 1: Many times in my life. I love leem Nissa doing humor,
so but yeah, to defend yourself because you were, like
I said you it was you were laughing way harder
than a three point five. I was laughing.
Speaker 3: It was enjoyable. But I think I'll probably watch it once,
maybe two more times, and that'll probably probably want It's
It's not that I'm gonna like.
Speaker 2: You're gonna watch it one more time.
Speaker 1: You're gonna watch it a more time and it's gonna
other jokes that you laughing, Like, you know what, this
isn't funnier than I thought.
Speaker 3: I'd have to space it out because I think it's
it's just one of those kind of slapstick ones that's
just like you know, it's it's good and it hits
hard on that first time, it'll hit hard on the
second time, but you know, space it out. I can't
just watch it like back to back, too close to
like my previous watch and I have to have that
bigger gap in between. But no, like Liam Neeson, he's
phenomenal in that movie, and I did. I did really
really enjoy the movie. But I was just thinking afterwards
in retrospect, like okay, yeah, like where does it sit
with my other films, Like, how do I feel about
this movie on its own? Like, I think I feel
good about it being like a three point five because there, again,
there were some things that I laughed a lot at,
and then there was still a lot of stuff that, ah,
I wasn't laughing at stuff that kind of went over
my head too. But I really just appreciate the level
of detail and just the in behind them background jokes
that they kind of got and like it's not a
spoils Yeah, that's like a prime example. So yeah, I again,
I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna make Madison watch it too,
because I think she'll make.
Speaker 1: Her watching out of it. Yeah, I'm gonna make Emily
watch it too because she's like, yeah, I'm so interested
because I want I wanted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I know, She'll like, we're in Superman.
Speaker 1: I want to tell her about the cameo, you know,
the I'll just say in the last fifteen minutes of
the big actor that cameo's in place of somebody. Yeah,
And I was like, Oh, there's a great on I'm like, oh,
I don't want to tell you cause that's a good surprise.
But says his biggest takeaway is that Pamela Anderson was
great and it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was phenomenal.
Speaker 2: She was great.
Speaker 1: I would say, not for Taylor, but for us, bubbs,
you should watch The Last Show Girl. It's about a
movie where she plays the go Vegas showgirl and they
get told that the show's shutting down. So it's like,
what you're gonna do after you haven't seen The Wrestler yet?
You should do a double feature. Ess, I told you
watch the Wrestle. You should do a double feature of
The Wrestler and the show The Last Show show Girl,
because it feels like it's like similar beats.
Speaker 3: But the thing is good people in this movie. Why
shouldn't I watch it?
Speaker 2: I just don't know if it's your tempo. It's very
Indian stuff.
Speaker 1: Again, not to spoil anything, but like, I'm not gonna
say it's his best role, but Batista's in The Last
Show Girl.
Speaker 2: He's fucking real good.
Speaker 1: He plays the club like the dance choreographer, the dance owner,
like if he like runs the show.
Speaker 2: He's really good.
Speaker 1: And same thing that movie too, same thing. I would
need a little bit more, especially the end. They introduced
a few very interesting storylines we don't get enough of it.
Maybe people maybe feel like, oh, we'll watch a TV show,
but no, it's just like I just feel like there's
certain beats and movies lately they introduce and you don't
get the full Monty. But yeah, Last Old Girl, she's
really good in at especially there's a really great scene
last third act too. So yeah, no, it's a it's
a really enjoyable movie. Good one now as good as
the Wrestler Watch Wrestler. But all right, so let's take
our first ad break and then we're gonna be right
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Den because you get the upload. No, I'm joking, it's
mine tonight. Uh let's see. I saw this. Patista was
the official best wrestler turned actor Corner Holly Reporter.
Speaker 2: That's like the easiest fucking poll.
Speaker 1: Like it's not like, don't get me wrong. Rock has
been great at times, scene has been great, but like
it's the classic. They're playing checkers, well, Batista's playing chess.
Like Batista's on like a different leve Batista. Even though
we'll see if Rock and the smashing Machine, Batista I
could believe could win Auscar one day we'll see a
smashing machine. I don't think he's seen it. Could Yeah, Batista,
by far is like he's so fucking good. That's the guy.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I have like a list of actors. If we were
lucky enough to break it through, I would love Batista
become a GV guy. I feel like we get long
and Batista and I would just I would put him
in so much. Man, that guy. So he's so talented,
he should be a more main character stuff. Have you
seen that move with him and miili Jovi jovid yet
I haven't wanted to. Yeah, I want to do yeah. Uh.
They put Rock and Seen a Rocket two, Seen It three,
and Cope was top five somehow.
Speaker 2: Let me just quickly pull this list.
Speaker 1: Taylor hang on Best Wrestler Actors Hollywood Reporter because I
gotta see who Cope's above s Bubs because I am.
I know I'm a Cope guy. But CoP's legitimly he
he he has some good jobs. Okay, So Batista was
number one, Rock was due, Sina was three, right right
Pipe was four, Yeah, Cope was five, Kevin Nash was six,
Hult Cogan was seven, Paul White The Big Shows eight,
Jesse Ventura was nine and Andrea Johant was ten. Honestly,
maybe you're just saying loll because like there's no big
list cope. I would definitely put its five, Like Andrea
is great Princess Diaries, but that's about it.
Speaker 2: Uh, Sena's easily.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about I imagine Tay, you agree
that the Patista is the best like Wrestlerturn actor, right.
Speaker 3: I would say Patista is the best.
Speaker 2: So do you wear you in the scene versus Rock scenario?
Speaker 3: I would take the Rock over Sena.
Speaker 2: I really think he's a better actor.
Speaker 3: I think the Rock is definitely a little bit more diverse,
even though yes, you can make the joke where he
does like ten movies were in the same clothes and
the same look and everything like that. Sure, but I
feel like he's got it just a little bit more
kind of punch behind his acting and sina I just
everything I see him in he's literally the same. He's
just doing the same, even Peacemaker, like it's the is
his character from Blocker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is his best beast.
Speaker 1: Baker's best rod because he gets like do some drama, right,
like when he has to kill his dad in season
one spoils like that is a good scene.
Speaker 2: I think I'm with Taylor right now where I've seen
Rock do.
Speaker 1: More drama stuff yet and or like or I haven't
seen seen it do enough drama stuff yet, and the
times that he has it hasn't been good. He's not
great and bumblebee like and look at when he's in
Fast and Furious. Remember when he was in the first one,
He's a complete villain, and then the next movie he
was just like Dom's brother joking around because they realized
he can only do that. So like, don't get me wrong,
if you say, hey, you're making a comedy and who
would you rather draft, I actually would take Scene over
Rock because I think Seena is just like I think
he just has better. I think the Rock is sometimes
afraid to make fun of himself, where I don't think
john Scene is. I think Johnsen will do whatever for
the joke, right, But for like that movie coming up
with Smashing Machine, where Rock's playing like the drug addicted
re like a UFC fighter, I don't. I saw a
trailer and I think Rock's gonna be great in it.
I don't think scene it can do that yet, so
I would I'd put rock. Yeah, overseen it right now.
So but as super Mike says, easily as says, I
feel like I just haven't seen copid enough stuff. So
it was funny. Uh yeah, I don't really, it's just
based on my wrestling like stuff, like you know, like
obviously there's some stuff around, aw, but like he was
always back in.
Speaker 2: They the better as far as the character and promo stuff.
But uh yeah, let's get into some Marvel news.
Speaker 1: We'll start with these two not quick hits, but they
are in a sense, but I thought they're worth bringing
up because so it's kind of a revolving door on
both of them, right, but I think this one's like
a no duest. So we'll start with probably any easy one.
But so on Friday an s Tier Scooper came out
and said officially, because you guys talked about a bit
last week where Ryan rals posted the Avengers logo and
then like, okay, what does that mean? And then they
said on Friday, hey, we've heard he's in it. The
wrinkle in this that another Steer Scooper came out and
said that they heard he's not in it.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say that my personal opinion there's two things.
Speaker 1: Either the other s to your super was just looking
for traffic, like I think it was Hollywood Report that
said yes and yeah Deadline that said no, or might
be the other way around. Someone can correct me in
the chat. I forget to look up. But either you
got bad information and you're gonna look really bad come
time Avengers, or it's marvel like trying to like deter it.
But like I'm gonna say, as right now, it's looking
like Deadpool. I'm what I am surprised about is I
thought Secret Wars was a lock. Him being in Doomsdays,
I'll say a little surprising, not too surprising, because Austin
the MCU has had a rock year even at Fantastic four,
Like you know, it's it's just gonna barely break five
hundred for the first time in eighteen years.
Speaker 2: Taylor DC's gonna win the box office, you know, is
that crazy? Eighteen years?
Speaker 1: It's pretty good since the Dark Night Bill and no
one have been caring that for a little bit. But
does it surprise you at all that he's gonna be
in Doomsday? And this didn't say a Secret Wars, but
I'm gonna assume if he's in one. He's in both
of them. Did it surprise you that that sounds like
that's an official thing? And then also, what would you
have him?
Speaker 2: What do you think he's gonna do in Doomsday?
Speaker 1: Would he be like a supporting character, would it be
a cameo just a set up secret Wars?
Speaker 2: Does he have a big role?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What is your mindset on the Deadpool and Doomsday part?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting if we're gonna
be having this movie with its main narrative and it's
just gonna pull you out for certain little mini sequences
or a little quick little cuts where you have the
fourth wall being broken and you have just Deadpool Waite
Wilson doing his thing. But I'm down for that. I
think he's he's gonna serve as that comedic relief and
just you know, they've established that he wants to join
that bigger team, he wants to be with an Avenger
and all that. So they're gonna give it to him
and we're gonna see him just like pop Off in there.
I don't think he's gonna die. I think he's just
gonna come.
Speaker 1: In and you think he's gonna be on the Avengers
team though, mm hmm, I think he's gonna help Avengers.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever gonna get to be.
Speaker 3: On the team.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: I think you know, if you got if we're looking
at Team Doom is the thing here, and they got
like Kings Thanos and everyone on there. And then we've
got all the other teams, the Thunderbolt Avengers team, you know,
the New Avengers. Then we got the Original Avengers, Team Loki,
all these different teams. I think you know, Deadpool is
gonna pop in and uh, Sam Wilson is gonna be like,
I need you, Wade Wilson. They got the same last name.
Speaker 1: No, he's gonna push away. I feel like you get
the memory of Goldfish you were you hosted Weekly Geek last.
Speaker 3: Week Team Loki versus Team Doom.
Speaker 2: And who was rumored to be on Team Loki.
Speaker 1: Deadpool. Yeah, so I wonder because it kind of comes
into all of them, because the thing is, like I
I get it from Marvel's POV right of like you
get Ryan Reynolds in there, Big Star, Peole Love, Deadpool,
Massive Movie.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that'll help.
Speaker 1: I do hope. I think in this one it should
be a smaller role because like we already got like
a lot of already saying you have Doctor Doom and
then you have Thor and then the Avengers. Let's say,
if Thor's in the Avengers, fine, so you got Doctor Doom, Avengers, Thunderbolts,
and Fantastic four. To me, that's already like, wait, that's
way too much in my opinion, And there could be
a Spider Man jumping around like that's way too us
so it's like, oh, Deadpool. And then there was another
scoopa that they're not an s tier, they're like a
seed tier. But they said like, oh, I've heard that
both X twenty three and Wolverine are in it. What
I think is gonna happen is in supermc says, I
gotta be a brief cameo. Having him in there too
much would take a lot away from space other characters.
Speaker 2: I agree. What I think is gonna happen is.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's an end credit because they want
to set it up. I think it's do Doctor Doom
or whatever. Bad guys are gonna win and it's gonna
go to shit. I think now I pitched this with Thanos.
I don't think it's gonna happen. But I think what
they're gonna do is they're going to do a similar
to Piots like Caribbean dead Man's Chest ending where we
got a few heroes remaining, we're all down. But my
pitch is what I think is a portal's gonna open
and you got That's where you get Team Loki because
Loki can walk out.
Speaker 2: You leave Thor alive so he can act very shocked
when he sees Loki. You get that moment so he
can be the Barbosa. But then he's not gonna I
have some friends with me, but something like I have
some people here.
Speaker 1: To help, and that's where you get Deadpool X twenty three, Wolverine,
some of these multiverse people, and that sets up secret Wars.
I think the same way as a you know, skip
ahead if you haven't seen Superman spoilers for the last
few minutes Superman, so skip ahead like two minutes. But
I thought it was a great way, and I think
it's it's better than a cameo, the way Supergirl came in,
got Crypto and set up, Hey, that's the next movie.
Speaker 2: If you want to see her more, she's coming up.
Speaker 1: I think that's the same where like you could make
that an end credit, but I think you really want
to show people like no, like this isn't just an
end credit, like this part of the movie, like Deadpool, Wolverine,
all these people, like they're gonna be in the next
movie and they're gonna be big deals. So I think
it's gonna be a small role because I know Secret
Wars might be the close of the multiverse, but I
feel like in that movie you can have.
Speaker 2: You can have Like.
Speaker 1: In Secret Wars, do you think it's easier for Deadpool
to do his fourth wall breaking and kind of be
a bit more crazier when you're dealing with like multiple
universes and characters crashing into each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that makes more sense.
Speaker 1: So that's why I feel like you get something. And
Mike says, you're probably give them your first pg F
bomb wall. They can't because unless you've been in the movie.
But remember they already gave that to Guardians. Remember open
the fucking door. Let Starlars have it, which I Taylor
made a growth.
Speaker 2: Taylor looks disgusted. I liked that chokeer.
Speaker 1: That was good enough, But that wouldn't be bad if
Loki does a spiel I walked down if you had
Deadpool look at a character in the camera and said,
Avengers fucking assembled, and then that's when you know, like
it's on. But yeah, I think that's what's gonna happen.
But I'm I guess I'm less Okay. Travis at the
beginning of the year is surprised deadpools in doomsday. Travis,
after seeing the box off the last three Marvel movies,
is not surprised Deadpool is in Doomsday because I think
they just feel like they need to get everybody back
on board. And man, I feel like these two movies
got to be so expensive. I feel like they gotta
be more expensive than End Game and Findy war Priz
four together, probably separately.
Speaker 2: I don't think that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I hope it works out for them because
if they spend all this money and these movies just
also crater, Like, how do you feel, because now Austin
will probably talk about like the next time we do
a draft update, but how do you feel now that
Superman if it should be F four because you had
super you had.
Speaker 2: F four beating Superman, but that's not happening.
Speaker 1: It's gonna come on like a whole like maybe like
one hundred, one hundred and twenty five million less than that,
and uh yeah, so F four was gonna be it's
about five hundred cap is like four nineteen and Thunderbolt
is like three ninety two. Now that they've had such
a rough year, what was your thoughts on now? F
four seemingly they had they had kind of two weeks
in a row, like massive like sixty percent drops and
didn't really have the legs that they were likely hoping for.
Speaker 3: You know, it's unfortunate it didn't do that well in
that regard, but it's it's a good movie, it really is.
And I'm all I'm hearing is people like they're enjoying
the movie. So I think that's that's still a win.
And when you look at the like, what are they
They're obviously going to look at the money first, which
is kind of a shame, but I think, hey, if
they look at the money and then they also look
at the reception and they see, hey, you know, we okay,
we didn't make a lot of money, but we got
a really really good reception here with this, I hope
that they take that and they run with that a
little bit more instead of like, oh, it didn't make
enough money, We've got to redo the whole thing, and
like no, don't like people enjoyed this movie, Like you
did something right. I think the only reason that it
was straggling a little bit behind was because you had
Jurassic World, you had Superman, and then you also have
a very rough build up of MCU movies at this point.
Thunderbolts was great, and that did it, you know, a
bit better than I was expecting it to be, you know,
in terms of its narrative and whatnot and its characters.
But with Captain America, Brave New World and just the
TV shows and everything that's kind of been building up
to this point, it's been very con eluted and damaging.
And that's where you can't really get excited about Fantastic
four ahead of time, because it's like, well, what do
we have excited to be a four about? Yeah, that's
the problem.
Speaker 1: And pe I've said this before, like they don't. I
don't think I think I'm validated. The fur is not
like an A list team, you know, like maybe they
can get them that, but they're not. Just because they
were a lists in the combooks doesn't mean they were
a list there. I was trying to look and see
because I knew this was a stat, but I didn't
have this. I think the stat is, okay, let's see here,
because let's say it gets five hundred. I'm trying to
find the last time because yeah, a Fantastic four is
like at four seventy. Fuck, every play in the world's
going by tonight. I think the stat was that it's like, yeah,
you can hear it. Yeah, there here comes Fantastic four.
The stat was like, it's the biggest single Marvel movie,
like debuting quite a while, So let me take a look.
So right now, it's at four sixty nine. Okay, Eturnals
made four oh one sung she made four three two
Captain Marvel Okay, so you know what, if you want
to have a positive spin, even though Captain Marvel one
point one billion dollars, it's the biggest debut film for
the MS since twenty nineteen, So like with know like
sequel or existing characters, it's the biggest. So you know,
you could say that's a win, and I rethin, like, well,
I think it's a twofold. I think it's.
Speaker 2: Hmm, Like if I can say it's a win.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I guarantee you I think they
thought I was gonna be Superman, and I think they
thought I was gonna do a lot better than five hundred.
I think I think it's a what are they god,
what do they call it in tennis? When you just
keep tying oh, because it's like forty love and then
I can't remember what it's is, But like I'll just
say it's like a push. It's a kind of a tie.
I think it's because I think even though Thunderbolts had
a better reception, I think that's if we were doing
like the Star Wars chart, that's technically a loss and
Captain America is a loss.
Speaker 2: If what Mike was somewie said, oh, could you have
a push category?
Speaker 1: Because we're not doing that, but if we did in
this situation, I would say it is like a push
or a draw, because I think there's equally good things
and equally bad things about it. If I had edge,
I would say it's a win for now, but it's
like a light like like at fifty one versus forty
nine percent win because I think there's lots of other reasons,
and I still think they should have put it in
November and stuff, but yeah, we'll see you. And like
I said, I think all this stuff is why Deadpools
and Avengers won and all. Like, I think they are
very much trying to get people on board so when
they get to X Men, they'll like the two Avengers movies,
they've made their money, and then people are hopefully in
love with the MCU.
Speaker 2: But I know what's gonna happen. It could be the
start of the DCU.
Speaker 1: But even though I would not pick Supergirl or Clay
Face to beat Spider Man or Avengers Doomsday next year,
I'm not making that pizza bed.
Speaker 3: Sof spider Man. Like whatever happens with Doomsday, I mean,
Spider Man is just gonna take the cake. Holy shit,
that movie, it's.
Speaker 1: Just an experiment. Could be bigger than Doomsday.
Speaker 3: I think it could be bigger. Well yeah, just because
again Spider Man, Hulk Punisher. That's that's three right there,
and then the whole town villains right.
Speaker 1: I can't downy Ryan Reynolds dooms Do you think it
could be bigger than that?
Speaker 3: I've spoken to a few people now that like, oh,
what do you think about Wolverine and Deadpool? And then
a lot of people are not really hot on it,
Like even I think Dylan is kind of not as
hot on it anymore. And I think the longer people
stew on it, it's like, yeah, I can't really go
back and enjoy it as much. It's like the first one,
the first step Pool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they I don't trust those people.
Speaker 3: I like the movie a lot and I will rewatch
it a lot, but a lot of people I bop
into they're like, yeah, you know that movie is just
like it relied a lot on like certain things, and
a lot of the jokes were like too much and
all this mumbo jumble.
Speaker 2: So but do you think they're not gonna go see
Avengers Doomsday?
Speaker 3: I think they will, Yeah, but I feel like it's
between the two. If they can only go to one
superhero movie, and some people do. Some people don't go
to every super movie, only go like one. They're the
off QUI off and on. And I think that they'll
go to see a Spider Man over Avengers Doomsday. I
think they'll be like, oh, we got Frank Castle Punisher
and here it. That's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know he's on.
Speaker 1: Daredevil didn't even break the top ten most stream shows
that month.
Speaker 3: You know you got Aho TV shows.
Speaker 2: I just Doomsday is gonna have the Four.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have Thunderbolts, it's gonna have Chris Hemsworth, it's
gonna have Tom Hidelson, it's gonna have Downy. Now.
Speaker 2: You got Ryan Reynolds, if.
Speaker 1: You get Jackman in there, you got the original X Men,
you got you McKellen in there, you got Patrick Stewart
had pizza bet you on that.
Speaker 3: What what are the parameters then? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Just just bigger, box office bigger. Yeah, when it's over,
Doomsday will do better than Spider Man. Hmmm, Mike, don't
say anything yet.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm out, Mike cam out. I was gonna
go for it, Mike, riis Magic.
Speaker 1: Covenders are gonna have that Chris is Magic.
Speaker 2: You took that away from me.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: I was gonna go for Oh my go. You can't
beat Chris's magic. God damn yeh oh yeah, never mind.
Speaker 1: Just something that annoyed me so much last week, These
fucking two jokers over here. I put Shrek the Shrek
five delayed news to read. Yeah, I got nothing to
say about this. We talked forever about how big that
December was and all the movies, how Shrek five could win.
So I thought one truck five moving, that's a massive
deal because that kind of takes off the board. And
they didn't say the whole part of that news we're
gonna talk about tonight. But I said, Shrek five moves.
It has the same release date.
Speaker 2: As Spider Verse. Be on the Spider Verse.
Speaker 1: The notes.
Speaker 2: That was in the notes.
Speaker 3: I swear it was the notes we need to do
this receeds reces let's check.
Speaker 1: If it's not that that, then I screwed up. But
still the other thing was a good talking point. Let's see,
he's gonna go He's gonna go delete the comedy before
I can even see it.
Speaker 3: I gotta get in there quick, kay.
Speaker 1: No, I did just put Shrek five delay receipts. Oh
you guys think Shrek wins or Spider Verse wins Shrek?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shrek, Yeah, I just yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think that'll happen. I think Spider Verse or
Shrek would move. I think it would be Spider Verse.
I think that's way too similar audience. But it's weird
because I think Shrek people been waiting a long time
to see Shrek again, so they're excited where I think
Spider Verse has like a bit of like there's almost
been too long since across Like there's like a there's
a right amount of it's you've taken too long, you've
lost my interest versus you've been gone for a long
time and I've missed you. Because remember Spider Verse was
supposed to be alt like last year, so so and
not that the audience knows that, but again it's just
that thing of like kids grow up and that's a
current age when where Shrek is gonna have like multiple
so I would still perk Shrek. And yeah, I think
now I think Avengers now is gonna win Christmas because
I don't I know, I as Bubbs don't. I don't
need no Jamanti sweep hashtag in there. Jamalji will do
definitely well, But I still think Avengers would be that
ice age six. It will be fine, but it's never
been a big one dune. To me, it's like Christmas movie.
So that Shrek's off the board, I think Avengers has that.
But uh, speaking of that, Tom, what Spiderman might have?
So two things happened we talked about a couple of
weeks ago, but again the guy's playing Scorpion on his
Instagram posts another photo of Scorpion covered in the black symbio.
And then there was this like this, you know, a
fun controversy, but a controversy nonetheless, where so someone that
they're done filming in Glasgow, but they there was someone
took a picture of a sign it's as Symbiosis and
had like a little definition below it, and everyone's like, oh,
look at this, like look at this thing from the set.
This is looking very interesting. And then someone came out
and they went like the they some fan in Glasgow.
I was like, oh, don't worry about that, like that.
Speaker 2: There's a club called Symbiosis here, like that's what it is.
Speaker 1: It's a nightclub da And then the people hang on,
hang on, but then the people people have too much
time on the hands, I guess. But some fan online
then messaged said club in Glasgow called Symbiosis and that
club said that's not us, like that, that has nothing
to do with us. That is Oh now I got
a fucking cross rocket going by, My god, look how
bright this thing is. That guy's been by fucking twice
a night.
Speaker 3: I create that term crotch rocket or did you hear
that from somewhere.
Speaker 1: I heard that's been around forever. Really, you've never heard
the term cross rocket, no chat, please tell me you've
heard this. But anyways, so they messaged this club and
Symbiosis says, hey, that poster is not ours. So I'm
just saying, where there's smoke, there's fire. They have the
Symbiosis thing they got. If the fucking Scorpion Guyke's post
these pos he's not, then I don't know.
Speaker 2: But the reason now why I've kind of come to
terms on it, why I think it.
Speaker 1: Is gonna happen, because ob see, they said they're smoke,
So I didn't just come up with a trasht oh
see it's in there. No, No, I just think one.
I know it's obvious, but like, what was the end
credit of Noah Home Taylor?
Speaker 3: Oh, the end credit of no Way Home.
Speaker 1: Fuck?
Speaker 3: I just watched it. It was Tom Hardy's venom in
the bar.
Speaker 1: Yes, but remember when he gets sucked up, he leaves
a little piece of himself there. So one, this is
a good setup. I don't know if they're gonna do it.
But in the Secret Wars story, that's where Spider Man
gets the Black Suit originally, and then he takes it
to earth.
Speaker 2: My god, he takes it to earth.
Speaker 1: But I thought about this, and one you sell a costumes,
toys whatever he put them Secre Wars. I don't know
if they're for sure going to do this or not,
but I don't know why I've never thought about this,
So this is a traps told me of what happens.
I thought, Man, how's there not a better way to
get Tom Holland to fight Toby Maguire and Secret Wars.
If he's got that black suit on and Tom Holmes
starts to get like a little too angry, a little
too much like that, that's a perfect way of like, hey,
we want to have a fight between Andrew Garfield and
Toby versus Tom. How do we do that?
Speaker 2: Boom?
Speaker 1: You get to have Toby who has experience with the
black suit, so he would know the weakness. So I'm
I'm seeing the vision. So I'm seeing that. You look,
ye chills, Yeah, exactly where.
Speaker 3: They would do it? Do you think they would go
that way? Because that's that's pretty fucking hype.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that to me is very that's something you cannot avoid.
Now Again, I thought lucasfilm would do that in fucking
Rebels with Darth Vader and Darth Maul, and they didn't
their cowards to me, especially in the last movie and
No Way Home with Peter already stopping Peter, Peter two
stopping Peter one from killing Goblin. Can you imagine that, Taylor,
where let's say, when Toby and Peter meet back up,
they're just in no caution for him, right and they're
all happy to see it's been so long. And then
imagine when they go to suit up, Toby gets that on.
Oh I'm getting it right now. I'm feeling right now,
I'm feeling the shills. He looks over and he sees
fucking Tom Holland rocking the black simulate suit and they
go and the thing is like, let's they're about to
go into battle, so he can't like talk to him
about it. And I'm not saying he turns on him
right away, but like I'm telling you, that would be
that's a fucking moment right there. If Tota MacGuire be like,
oh my god, I know this fucking suit's gonna do
to him, and then he can tell Andrew Garfield and
Garfield's like, oh you sure, like he seems fine, and
maybe he's more violent, like I think it fits with
and even then maybe somehow he ends up working with
Doom a little bit.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but if it is inspierment, I think
we've troubled this before.
Speaker 1: Spider Man is alone, has nobody, He's probably gonna be
pretty angry. Frank Castle has nobody, He's always angry. Hulk's
gonna become a savage hal he's angry. Introducing the simul.
That's all about like making someone more angry, more violent.
So like the simul fits with the theme. They're rocking
already with Hulk and Punish right now, right, So what
do you think about all this? Do you think this?
You know?
Speaker 3: Is this is this symbio going to be talking like
the Tom Hardy's Venom or is it going to be
talking not at all like the Total.
Speaker 2: I don't think it all.
Speaker 1: No. I think they would do their own distinct version.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm down for this. I think they set it up.
I want to see it, I really really do. I
think that would be really really cool to see Tom
Holland rock in that venom black Spidy suit and the
idea there that stands Hey, if Toby Maguire pops in
and it's like, hey, okay, I've got experience with this.
That would be pretty cool. That would be pretty pretty
cool to see how that unfolds and the dynamics. So
I'm game for that. That'd be pretty sweet. It just
it depends if we're gonna go that route. That seems
like it's a bold, bold take, and I don't know
if they if they that takes guts, I don't know
if they have the guts to do that right now.
They want to be safe.
Speaker 2: They can't be safe. That's what got them here. I
think be too safe, But I.
Speaker 3: Feel like being too safe. No, I think they were
bold by doing all these different projects and just spreading
themselves too thick.
Speaker 1: That was bold.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I just mean, like the in these just like I
don't know, could you, like I feel it would take
you a long time to tell me the plot of
the Marbles or like the cournals, like I mean safe
by like their stories. Wise, they they just went into
let's make generic comic book movie mode for a while.
I'm not evenna say Eternals is that. I won't say
that for Eternals, but I'll say that, Oh, the Marvels
Captain America for sure, Like what else do we got
in there that's come out recently? Thor Love and Thunder
probably for sure, even though I'd say that maybe wasn't
safe go take his style, but I think a lot
of that stuff. And even then the TV shows they
played those, I think really safe and by the number,
So I think there's I think you're right where they
did get a little risky, but I think they could
have got risky and been okay. They got risky with Guardians,
they got risky. Avengers was a risk itself, right, like
Doctor Like Captain Marvel was a risk. Like they took
some risks. It's just because it was a well oiled machine.
It paid off.
Speaker 2: But I just think, like that's such.
Speaker 1: A good trajectory of Spider Man four is about him
being a street whatever level guy you get with the Symbiote,
Secret Wars, you dealed him doing the Similte stuff. Then
Spider Man five you do your your own venom, you
do Spider Man Venom, and Spider Man six, that's when
you either send them all them off or you kill
him off.
Speaker 2: That's when you get Miles. And that's like a perfect
to me like trilogy right there.
Speaker 1: Events, But I want to show you because this was
done by the actual guy does the concept art for
the movies for Spider Man. I don't know why he
did it. If anyone in the check you remember why.
But this is this concept art is from uh, I
think it's from NOA Home. But it's the guy that
does the concept art for the movies. Oh is there
other sides? Is there? Actually? Oh? There is? Okay, but
that suit, like that's gonna that's gonna sell some toys,
that's gonna be on some posters and whatnot. Like that's
a good looking symbio, you know. So, but yeah, do
you think it's happening? Do you? Or do you think
like this club stuff is or the symbiosis posters nothing?
Do you think the scorming actor posts stuff on Instagram?
He's just trying to get rides people, So, like other
than the want the storyline wise, do you think it's
actually happening.
Speaker 3: I think it'll I think it'll happen. You're kind of
convincing me on it, you know, like it does makes sense?
So and I think Foggy wants to impress. So yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 1: I didn't believe me, but I hit him with the
ha Isn't that right?
Speaker 3: How brother?
Speaker 1: There you go? When I when I when you get
when we get that first teaser of Avengers Secret Wars
and we see Tom until we fighting, Oh my god,
you know because people love that and the first Avengers
Iron Man cap and Thor fought right. People love that stuff.
So well, let's take under that break and then we'll
be right back with I don't know what's next, because
I think I know what's next. We'll figure that out,
be right back and we're back. I feel like I'm
missing something in my notes here, but we'll go with
this and then I'll figure out after. So I got
two news here where one's not news on it's just
like a spoiler because he's this is the second time
he's done it. There's like some reunion con that the
Lower Rings cast was doing. And I'm sure if he's
seen the clip I put in the discord, but e
mchel and they asked him about Golm and he stands, well,
and I only tell you about three things, and he's like, well,
Andy Circus is directing it, and it has a Karen
named Ganoff, and I have a character name Frodo and
Elijah Wood is there.
Speaker 2: While he's talking.
Speaker 1: Elijah Wood does not look fist off at all, but
he's definitely under He no, not as a thunder, He
just definitely had a face like I don't think you
can be saying this, whether they meant to be a
surprise or whether it's way.
Speaker 3: What are they gonna do?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 3: What are they gonna do to him? Like, what's the
worst they could do? Is he sign a contract saying
a non disclosure agreement the men or lives a long time.
But I mean it's not like they can do much
to this poor guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah or no, I'm looking at from Elijah Wood's perspective
that he's not signed on anything yet and would kind
of maybe like to like sometimes feel negotiate, right, So
another actor just be like, oh, yeah, he's in there.
Speaker 2: Then I don't think he know.
Speaker 1: I think Ian's older and he was.
Speaker 3: Just talking having fun, but like it know they were
doing in a movie.
Speaker 1: No, I think you know you talk about like it
just kind of puts that that out there.
Speaker 2: So so we have this last year.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure didn't we talk about like Ian mckillon,
like let it slip that Viga Morrison was come back, right,
did he say something like that? He does say something
he spoiled, that he's in the movie, that Vigo's in
the movie, and Woods in the movie. I've said this before,
I'll say this again. I think I think this is
a I won't say rest before disaster, but I I
just don't know. I think there's more downside than upside.
And it's tough because I get it. It can make money,
people will be there. I just don't know what we
can accomplish with this movie still. And I even thought
that one was just about the Hunt for Gollum. But
now when it's like, oh, we're getting the whole gang
back together, so we know we're getting some bad fucking
dhe Cgi coming up. Hopefully it's not bad. Hopefully they
make do very well and do like some of the
like Mando or Boba fett Luke, you know, they get
that guy like hopefully Vigo and especially Elijah, Elijah playing
like Froto from twenty years ago. Come on now, Like
I just it's just I I know there this is
based off some chapters. What I'm gonna say is probably sacrilege,
but I'm in this mood. I said this like last month.
I think you'll push back me.
Speaker 2: I don't care. People can keep pushing back.
Speaker 1: I said at this point, if Star Wars in the
next couple of years doesn't figure it out, I'm completely
fine if they.
Speaker 2: Say, hey, we're just gonna remake it. We're gonna start over.
Speaker 1: Hang on, We're gonna start over, and we can go
different routes and know why, Taylor the Canada you like
you're sixty six. Your dark plagis they doesn't have to
get affected. Nothing's affected because that stays in a nice
bubble and you can still do animation.
Speaker 2: You can still do comics in the original Star Wars timeline.
But we're gonna get to a point.
Speaker 1: Where if people reject stuff, it's like people just want,
let's see the sky Walker's and I guess.
Speaker 2: Maybe just bring Ray back, right'.
Speaker 1: I'm saying if that's like, if they fail, I would
not be opposed because I have episodes one to nine.
They're not going anywhere I have, and or like all
that doesn't go anywhere, it's still it's the same thing.
Ta you like Michael Kean's Batman, then go anywhere. When
they reboot it in Christian Bale. His story is still there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. I got I just I see it
as very different. Star Wars is different than how DC
does their their thing and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like Harry Potter is doing it, I'm just
telling you to buckle up.
Speaker 1: I'm telling like, we're also not that long way and
here's my thing, and this is what I'm pitching.
Speaker 2: I'm not pitching and just remake one of the rings.
I'm pitching some of that.
Speaker 1: People might not even like more. And I wonder if Kirkland,
if he's hearing this, if he's gonna get hot about it.
I would not.
Speaker 2: I would rather instead of this hunt for gollm thing.
Speaker 1: I would rather them say you know what, people will
be so mad. I think we found out a story
and we're gonna do a sequel to return the King.
I would rather than do that because at least that.
Speaker 3: Would be crazy.
Speaker 2: What you even do though, anything anything?
Speaker 1: You know why, because it's free, it's free money.
Speaker 2: It's all on the board.
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. You don't got to
pay an extra person to go cgi whatever. And kirk
will get back me up. And I don't think he
got far. But token remember he was writing a sequel
to Lord of the Rings, and he just never completed,
whether he chose not to or ran.
Speaker 2: A time, but you can look it up. He was
writing one originally, so even himself.
Speaker 1: So you could even fucking bullshit a little bit and
be like, oh we got you know, they could like
buy the rights to that work. Oh we've taken some
of the because remember what the Star Wars trilogy did,
the sequel trilogy where they bought the scripts from George, like,
oh yeah, we're gonna use some of those ideas, and
they did. Luke being a hermit was George's idea. Ray
didn't have. I can't remember what her name was, but
the character of Ray was in George's script is like
the main protagonist. It was so for everyone's like, oh
fucking Disney that made this world female. I was like, no, no, no, George,
that George made Ray the main character his plan was,
and Luke was gonna be a hermit there too, So
they could do that. Oh, we bought the ideas from
token that he had wrote, like, got talked to some
We got those ideas and we're gonna expand upon those.
I would be much more interested now. Granted that is
way bigger room for her because the prequel it sucks.
You just right off and go, oh, whatever that's happened before,
we still got those visuals. A sequel sucking that could
be very dangerous, but it's just for me. It's like,
I have zero interest in what they're gonna do with
the Hunt of gall and then bringing back Elijah Wood
and Vigo. It's like, I just don't Again, it just
feels like a pure money grab. And that's why it's
everything in Hollywood, of course is for money, but there
is always to me a perfect balance of for money
and the passion. This just feels like a full on
let's get all these actors back so they can be
in the fucking trailer and people are gonna come pay
to see their money.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's say Taylor.
Speaker 1: If you had a door and you could only walk
through one, it was a get hunk for Gollum or
to get the fourth floor of the Rings, what would
you do?
Speaker 3: I take the Hunt for Gollum over the fourth floor
of the Rings?
Speaker 1: Prequel apologist, I.
Speaker 3: Can't. I I don't know what story they would do.
First sequel to return to the King, and at this point.
Speaker 2: Two and a half hours just looking for Gollum.
Speaker 3: I think with Gollum, you got the nas ghoul in there,
you got like riding on their horseback, and you got
some really cool ship where Saramond hasn't turned yet. Like
you got some really neat things.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't Christopher Lee's dead.
Speaker 3: Oh okay. If we're going to a concert where the
christ really is going to appear and talk to us,
I'm sure they into.
Speaker 1: A movie that's different. We're seeing the Lord of Rings
in concerts de Denver. That's he recorded that video and
they have him. He did not record scenes for the
Hunt of Gollum.
Speaker 3: No, but I bet you they could sneak him in
there somehow.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: But I just think that what I between the two,
I would take Hunt for Gollum, But if I had
my pick of the litter, i'd probably take, like, give
me the first the first five minutes that intro fight
se in a middle Earth that takes place in Rings
of Power that they just skimped over. That's what I want.
I want, Yeah, but they can't do that to be
in here. I want all that. They can't do any
of that going on.
Speaker 1: They don't have the rights of that they can't do.
Speaker 3: Anything Jason bullshit for thirteen.
Speaker 1: Well blame token and it is a state. I'm just saying,
you're gonna watch The Hunt for Golm in this multiverse like, oh, cool,
they caught gold, and then I'd be walking in the
theater and be like, man, you wouldn't you wouldn't believe
what they did. They did this, they did this, and
you'd be like, oh, that sounds pretty cool. You'd be
getting new actors, you'd be getting more fucking Orlando Bloom back.
You get like because you get all that. That's a
good thing with this movie. You can get everyone back
because they could just be playing their age self. They
don't got to do anything an these bullshit you can get.
You can get the whole Fellowship back, Taylor, every single
one of them for a new adventure. We're in danger
again and the Fellowship of the Ring has to come back.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it goes to the.
Speaker 1: Justice Shore as a rock is covered in chills already.
Speaker 3: The Lands of the Undying Lands.
Speaker 1: And I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah he does. I was reading about it does.
Speaker 2: Like this does, and I know Sam Wise does because
he was like he carried the Ring for a little bit.
Speaker 3: Uh, why is Gimley allowed to go to the Undying Lands?
I can't understand Frodo and Sam being allowed. Yeah, why
was Gimbley? Quarter of my understanding Aman was meant for
the Immortal the exceptions taking place after the war the Ring. Uh,
let's see, Gimley was a door very much now friend.
Speaker 2: Because a friend. So it's just saying he did go.
Speaker 3: Yes, he did go to the Dying Lands.
Speaker 2: I have not read in well.
Speaker 1: My plan is to do the audiobook hopeful this year
maybe next year, depending but yeah, I've not read Return
the Game quite a while, so I forgot that because yeah,
I know Sam goes after Rosie dies, he pimps off,
but it is the kids.
Speaker 2: He does after Rosie dies. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna
go see old kids.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna take one of those boats over there?
Speaker 1: No? Like, I love you guys, but like what, like
I get it, they're probably like, oh yeah, they're all
set and whatnot. But it's like, I sooner gonna have grandkids,
like Frodo chose to leave like that. That's definitely some
like something's going on with Sam and Frodo there if
he's leaving his kids to go be a fro Do Like,
I don't know, So so.
Speaker 3: You're playing off the whole idea that, Okay, Frodo's talking
to Sam. Frodo finished his book, and Sam's walking in
there and photos like his room for a little more,
and then he hands the book off to Sam and
then he leaves. So that's the chapter you want, you
want that Sam, Sam stories. No, he's not saying you're
not getting Frodo and Gandalf coming back from the Dying Land.
Yeah you do. Oh, you don't come back from the
Undying Lens though as you're there, it's a one way trip.
Speaker 2: Nobody's ever gone.
Speaker 3: Why why the heck would they bring Frodo back from
the Undying Lens. That's why they're doing the prequel.
Speaker 1: Guess what, Taylor talk to Warner Brothers and then they
can pay me and I'll write you that fucking script.
Speaker 2: But until then, we're not gonna do it tonight.
Speaker 1: You could say write me get shat ept to say, oh,
write me a sequel or the Rings, and you'd probably
be somewhat commenced, and then let me finish that off.
Speaker 2: Like there's again.
Speaker 1: Tolkien was writing it. So if the guy he didn't
write it, but if the guy who created all this
shit at one point in his head thought, oh I
could do a sequel to this, he could let me.
Speaker 2: Let me see if there's anything on here. Let's see
Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 1: Sequel.
Speaker 2: That's not gonna help me.
Speaker 1: Let's see why. Oh it's a YouTube video formautes why JR.
Token bandoned his Let's see why still some air?
Speaker 3: Oh, let's see. Last time I read Return of the King.
It was a long time ago. I didn't finish it.
I would have been in an elementary school and I
took it out of the our library because it was
in our library elementary school. For some reason, did not
finish it. I remember when The Hobbit was just one book,
and now you can get it, I think in three
books now or something like that because of the movies.
So that's kind of neat. Is that neat? Not really
just keep it to one book. It's one story. It's
like Fantastic Beasts, you know, being broken off into all
these movies.
Speaker 2: It's hard to god.
Speaker 3: Zella's back in theaters now. I saw it playing at
our local cinemas, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Okay, look at that. So look, this already sounds like
a chat GBT title. You know what he called the
title of the sequel was what the New Shadow. The
New Shadow was an incomplete sequel Floor Rings Jared Token
quickly abandoned, but may have come back to it's set
during the reign of on Sun all Over That Total
originally set the story approximately one hundred and five years
after the fall of Barado, but decided in nineteen seventy
seven to set the story in the fourth age. The
story resolves, okay, The story revolves around a cult known
as Dark Tree, two characters named Salein and Borlas. Let's see,
he says, I did begin a story placed abute a
hundred years ago after the downfall, but proved both sinister
and depressing. See that's the only reason you did, right,
It's too dark. Since we are dealing with men, it
is nevile that we should be concerned with the most
regrettable feature of their nature, their quick sadie with good okay,
So that the people of gond Or, in times of peace, justice, prosperity,
would become disconnected, disconnected and restless, while the Dynas descended
from Aragon would become kings and governors like Denis or
or worse, oh Man, I found that even so early
there was an outcrop of revolutionary plots about a center
secret of Stana, satan satanistic thank you for religion. Well,
Gondorian boys. We're playing Gondorian boys, and as he said,
we're playing this is from a letter that he wrote
to somebody. We're playing to being Orcs and going around
doing damage. I could have written a thriller about the
plot and discovery and Overthorpe, but it would have taken
just that not worth doing, uh to so one point
he had after everyone's death. So there's a lot of stuff.
I wouldn't do that. But I'm just saying there's a
room out there, Taylor, he could write it, but I digress.
What I couldn't write is so this is this is
a very I just put this in here just in
case it blows up against more. But this is just
from a one source and it came out and it's definitely,
you know, like a it's not even like a scoop
because this could be something anyway. So he uh, I
don't know what the movie is. But as Zoy Krafts
was doing press for a movie, and I guess one
of the press, you know, was there asking questions and
they were told and that's why it could be complete bullshit.
I'm just asking you they were told that to not
ask any questions about the Batman too, because she's not
in The Batman two. And I mean bullshit not saying
this person is lying. I'm saying it could just be
them saying, like, hey, don't say you're in the movie
un till we announce it. It could be same thing
as lies would that. Hey, they haven't agreed on money yet,
so you can't say you're in. But let's say this
is true. Let's just for the sake of its say, hey,
so Krautz is not in The Batman too. You said
at the beginning, we're tumb about this that that would
surprise you, right like, because you feel like that's I
felt like that's a given to be her to be
in there.
Speaker 2: So let's say we do eventually here that is official?
Speaker 1: Non here? What do you think I mean?
Speaker 3: It's it's definitely a surprise to me. They alluded to
her returning at the end of the Penguin, and that's
alluding to you know, obviously the Batman Part two with
the bat symbol going up in the sky. So it
makes me wonder what their plan is. You we know
they're doing a part three, right, that's the goal.
Speaker 2: Well that's the goal.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's happening. That's the goal.
Speaker 3: There's there's clearly there's two ways about this. There's clearly.
Let's let's say they are. The goal is, Yeah, they're
going to do the part three and that's it. It's
going to be a trilogy, and then you're done because
James Gun's doing his things, so you have very limited
storytelling room here. So you're keeping her at bay and
then going to bring her back in part three for
some reason. Maybe there's that or the more likely thing,
I think that maybe she's just not going to play
a part with Batman anymore, and you know she does,
it'll be something very loose, but they're just going to
keep her, bring her back in for like Penguins season
two or something like that, and then that's it and
they're going to move along because again three movies. Maybe
they just want to really highlight getting other characters in there.
Maybe they want to do a robin or something. If
they do a time jump, I don't know. I think
that they if you keep Catwoman in there, and I'm
okay with that, then you can maybe other people will
just be overwhelmed you have too many of their characters
popping in there. I don't know. I think it's a
sandbox and they should pull from it. But maybe they're
concerned about pulling too much considering it's a very limited window.
Of course, they don't have that green lit for number
three yet, so they're just working with you. Let this
just look at this like, we only have part two
right now to work with, So let's just maybe keep
it a little bit more grounded and focus on some
other things that we want to tackle, whereas we already
have Zoe Kravitz's character focused on in the first part.
Let's move along.
Speaker 1: Before I ask, because I'm gonna go more into it,
not like a ramp, but because we're supposed to do
this on newscasts we did things changed and Maddie asks,
just dealing myself on GVDA, Oh, Taylor Kirkle, and we'll
talk about just things happen.
Speaker 2: What do you what are your thoughts on if Robin's
in The Batman Part two?
Speaker 3: What are my thoughts do you like that especially, I'd
like to see more Robin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you still like that in the sense of like,
remember if the James guns Batman's happening, that's out Batman
and Robin. Granted that's his son, but it's still a
Batman and Robin's story as well.
Speaker 3: Yep, and I'd be down for it. I feel like,
when was the last time about Robin? When was the
last time Dark Knight Rises, Dark Knight Rise? And even then, Robin,
you should use your real name, it was only a
half Robin. Yeah, so yeah, you can see some more.
I'm down to see some more Robin here.
Speaker 2: I mean, really, two Batman movies back to back. We
haven't gone and years down to get them.
Speaker 3: I'm don I haven't listened to the theme for Batman
Forever lately, so oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: The same guy that did the Interview with the Vampire.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. There's tons of tracks, not the show but
the movie. If you listen to the movie soundtrack for
Interview with the Vampire and Batman Forever, because they're only
your part, there's some parts that are identical in there.
Speaker 3: Often do that.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, you should there it's identical. But I really
like his style. But yeah, I've talked about that before.
Speaker 1: I I don't think that's a good idea if there's
two Batman because to me, I've said this before, if
you're gonna actually do two Batman's at the same time,
you want them to be as different as possible. I
think if both movies have a Robin that's not different
as possible, that's very similar, and you brun up a
good point. And that's where for me, let's say we'd
live in a universe for all this is true, right,
everything happens where Okay, Matt Reeves's Batman's gonna happen, and
then we're gonna get Brave and Bolt. For me, I'm
getting my Robin Phil right there, even though I Dick
grade Sin's my favorite. So I'd hope that's the Robin
and the Baton part two. But the way you pitch it,
of which I agree of, let's say get the Baton
part two. Okay, so you have Bruce's connection with Alfred
you have to do. You have this connection with Gordon
you have to do, and you would have to have
this connection with Seina to do. So. If you do Robin,
that's four, not saying you can't do that. But that's
a lot of characters for Bruce to really interact, right,
that's not even count the villain, that's not counting side characters,
and as time as Batman, that's a lot. So I
could see if you're looking at dartboard of characters you
have to cut. You can't cut Alfred unless you gotta
KNT with it. To me, you can't cut Alfred. He's
you know, a guy in the chair. Cut Gordon because
he's a guy on the ground and he's gonna give
the bat signal. So like Catwoman would be the one
to cut. But when you put it that way, then
I would say I don't want Robin then right now,
Like I again, I love Dick Grayson. I love Robin.
Speaker 2: Ellie's middle name.
Speaker 1: Is Grayson because of that very fact. But for me,
it's just like it's a time and a place. And
for me, I thought they, like you said with Penguin,
they you know, were really setting her up. I still
think even the end of the Batman, they're sitting up
at this will happen again. The only way and I'm
not even happy with this, I guess the only way
I would feel of it less of a blow is
at the times, and they'd be like, yeah, we'd like
to do more, you know, the Batman stuff in HBO.
Speaker 2: If they say, hey, she's.
Speaker 1: Not in Batman too, but we are going to do
a Catwoman showing HBO like Penguin, then I'd say, okay,
you know what that's I can work with that because
then and also though it has to come with the
idea of Batman three's happening, we're living a world where
I don't think that's happening.
Speaker 2: I hope it does.
Speaker 1: But if we get to a situation where let's say
there's no Catwoman and they do Batman too, and it's great,
but whatever they end it like same thing like Snyer
could ended, and there's like Catwoman SS and the Batman,
that feels very odd to me. That feels like that's
an unclosed loop right there. With that what they said
up and granted they didn't know that gun was gonna
take over and there's gonna shared universal this stuff, right,
but to me, that's where I would I think it's risky.
So my hope is that they are just fucking around.
They're just saying that to the press that hey, yeah,
she's not it for whatever reason, because I think there
could be even then, like for Slena to see Bruce
adopting or even Batman adopting a kid. I think there's
like some I don't know, there's tons of potential and
the Colm ex amimation of show like, there's tons of
story there, but again just the current state. I would
rather than focus on the Bruce and Selena dynamic than
a Bruce and Robin or Slash Dick one. So I
hope this is not a true thing. But if she is,
it's I don't know, because I don't see us getting
a show anytime soon. I think it's very much like Superman.
Where Superman came out, did I think well enough for
them that they start going in production and talk about
all these other projects. I think for us, with the
Batman three and shows on HBO, we're really not gonna
know until that that sequel comes out, right, because I
really hope. I know it sounds bad, it's petty, but whatever,
call me petty. I hope when the Batman two comes
out it does better than Superman, so then you can't
say like, well, because if it does the same or less,
I think it's over. I think unless they convince Matt
Reeves to join DCU. But if it does more, I
don't know how you tell your boss, how you tell shareholders, like, yeah,
the most profitable DC movie we have right now going,
We're not gonna do it again because it's not my
you know, my shared universe or all my toys together,
and I have nothing to do with it. I think
as like zaz Love other people, they'd look at you
and be like, I don't know if you should be
the head of DC Studios, Like it might suck, but
like just because at that point, if it does two,
you just uh fuck k. Just let them finish three
and then tell them like, hey, I have for three
though you're done, like you said, trilogy, you're getting a trilogy.
Let's move along. And I've because to me, it's like
it's not like there's a lack of DC characters, Like
obviously Matt Reeves took a long time to get the
script done, but like between One Woman and they're talking
about doing the super Fan, like there's so many DC
characters you can do in the meantime, Like Batman can
join the Justice League at any point, it be a
big deal. You don't have to have them there.
Speaker 2: So I hope this isn't true, and it's not true.
I hope there's a show, but yeah, I hope that.
Speaker 1: Luckily, it does sound like The Batman is going into
production spring, so the good thing is either late fall
or early next year, we're gonna start getting casting and man,
that's gonna be fun and we're gonna know if she's
back or not. And uh, I hope so, I really
do so if super mikex sense, if Batman two makes
over eight hundred million, we're for sure getting part three
would be financially irresponsible. Otherwise, I still think seven hundred
because I think because I think what Batman Part one,
it's like it's like seven to seventy or something. That
Man's box office, I got, I got, I'm already I'm
already being Yeah, seven hundred and seven seven millions two,
that's that's not how you say it. It's seven hundred
and seventy two million to But yeah, for me, I
believe if it just beats Superman. In my opinion, where
are you do you think it has to like just
beat Superman? Hit what hit before? Or do like what
Mike says, eight hundred million, Like what do you think
is the point of Batman three is guaranteed.
Speaker 3: Guaranteed?
Speaker 2: Okay, the closest to being guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Nothing is guaranteed, but let's say the closest if he's
a betting man, like, Hey, what number do you think
we got to hit? Mm?
Speaker 2: Because if it beats Superman by one million? Would you
think that's enough?
Speaker 3: I think that's enough. I really do. I think that
answer that is a big statement. And James Gunn would
be he'd be he'd be looking at that, he'd be
inspecting that spreadsheet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we will see.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our final ad break, Len, we're
talking about a short film and some trails.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And and we are back, so we'll save if anyone want.
It's not gonna be a big sport thing, but every
once we're gonna talk about some trades. But we're gonna
also talk about the Friday the thirteenth short film. As
I said at the beginning, it's not a just like
fan one. This is the people that own like they've
done this Jason universally now and they're doing this. And
we're also gonna talk about the short film in juxaposition off.
They announced that there's gonna be a new movie. They've
not said who is with we'll get into that why,
but we're gonna talk about some trades and we'll talk
about that. So even if you've not watched it, go
watch it, but you can hear us talk about just
like broad Strokes, it's only like thirteen minutes after, like
before credits and stuff.
Speaker 2: But treys Heay, we got Marity Supreme.
Speaker 1: We go.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I forgot to watch one.
Speaker 3: Fuck, I forgot to watch You leave me. You leave
me because I wasn't able to watch them.
Speaker 1: You won't watch any of them.
Speaker 3: No, I don't have time. I had to watch the Jason,
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: You shit told me.
Speaker 3: Not Earlier you said we're not talking trailers because you
didn't watch trailers or something like that.
Speaker 1: So where's that receipt?
Speaker 3: Can you show me that receives fusufstop in here?
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, no, no no no no,
that's says no received me saying record. I would have
rather you talked or watched the trailers in front of thirteenth,
but you know fe digress Jesus Christ. All right, then
I will quickly rattle, fire them, rattle Marty Supreme. I
wasn't looking forward to this, Tim, if you don't know
the story. This is the Safti brothers that have directed
Good Times. They directed Uncut Gems, but they had a
falling out, so they've they're directing their own films. Won
the Safti brothers. He was the villain and Happy Gilmore.
He's directing the Rock Smashing Machine one and then the
other one here Josh Safti, he's directing the the what
the fuck is it? Oh?
Speaker 2: What is.
Speaker 1: Ping Pong? He's directing the Ping Pong movie with Timley Schallmey.
Speaker 2: So very interesting.
Speaker 1: They both chose like sport esque type of movie. I
didn't have much interest when they said it's like a
sports movie based on ping Pong. I like ping Pong,
but I don't need a movie. But this trailer really good.
I'm looking way more forward to this than I thought.
I hoping not Butcher your name. The female interest in
this is also it's a Deessa Xeon or Eon she was.
I don't know if you remember this day or if
you had it a long time ago. That New hell Raiser,
remember that one we talked about yeah, the female lead
that was the like the good female Lee, like the
instant person she's in this.
Speaker 2: I really liked her.
Speaker 1: So no, this trailer did a good job in Tiddy
Shall man, he's looking great. He's looking like he could
win an oscar. Here, he's like I said before, he's
looking like young Leo. Yeah, I can't wait. I'm so
mad he didn't watch the Keeper though, because the Keeper
even the good boy too.
Speaker 2: Keeper Man. So it's a trailer.
Speaker 1: It's by from Osgar Perkins, the guy who did Long
Legs and the Monkey.
Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, I was reading about this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this I think whoever is at Neon that
gets his films, they got a good job of countries.
Speaker 2: It's always unique.
Speaker 1: So trail is about two minutes two minutes, and each
minute is from the other character's point of view. So
I can't remember their names, but I think it opens
up and it's like me, like it shows her name
in quotations and then she tells the story and it
makes it seems like this person she's seeing.
Speaker 2: Could be like in Satanic call a Killer.
Speaker 1: Something's up with him, something's not right, And they're like, oh,
she's the lead of this story. What the fuck's wrong
with this dude, and then flips and then it's like
in quotations Adam, and he's saying the exact same shit
about her.
Speaker 2: He's saying like, I can't trust her. I don't know
who she is.
Speaker 1: So it's like and they're showing all these great creepy
shaw it's very like long leggish and this one I
was enjoying more because did you ever see the monkey yet? No? Yeah,
it's fine to me like it was. It was a
lot more funnier. It didn't hit with me, so I'm
hoping he's going back more than like this kind of
long leg stuff. Tat Danny Maslani, who plays che Holt.
She's the lead in this and she looks great. But
thought it was a really cool trailer where in this
trailer you literally this feels like usually you would have
a trail where it say, oh, here's the guy's version,
here's the girl's version, we'll pay them at different times.
They literally put them together. It feels like two trailers
ed together, and it's so cool and it's very I
need to say poor release date's coming out like November fourteenth.
Don't know why this thing's not coming on October. Like,
to me, that's a miss in my opinion, I would
push it then to like early twenty twenty six, so
I don't think it's gonna do that well. But even then,
like how okay, long Legs did really well, hang on
to see Long Legs box office did so one hundred
and twenty eight million, and the Monkey I don't think
it did anything. Let's see fifty million globally. Who jesus
sixty eight?
Speaker 2: Okay, but still so it's like half of what Long
Legs did so in November.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. But yeah, at some point, Yam,
maybe we'll see when you go see a movie, but
seek out the keeper that's looking good. And then have
you heard about the film called good Boy?
Speaker 3: Oh? Why does that sound familiar?
Speaker 1: So you might have seen like going around and like
a discord or the Facebook going up. But anyway, so
this is a movie. It's a horror movie. But a guy, yeah,
guys living in his house. I'm guessing he just moves
into or something like that, and there's all these like
ghosts and satanic stuff going on and people popping up.
But I think the thing is he can't see him,
but his dog can't because the way like always right toell.
Dogs have like a sixth sense or in movies they
always know the ghost. So the dog, it is fucking
seen all this stuff going on. Well the owner doesn't
see it going on, and it's it's one of those
this is where it's just like, man, I will definitely
see this. I think they said it was shutter, but
if it's in theaters, I will see this. This reminds me,
which I feel like you.
Speaker 2: Still have seen you haven't seen in a violent nature yet, right,
that one that was like shot from.
Speaker 1: Oh did you did you like that one?
Speaker 3: It was very slow but I didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's Jason, He's pretty slow. Right.
Speaker 2: That's kind of sequels that'll be interesting, but that cool.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, but that reminds me of this where it's like, Okay,
I granted, I'm sure there's many many movie ideas that
haven't been made, right, but this is a movie idea
that I've never seen before, and it looks like it's executed. Well, Hey,
we're gonna tell this horror movie about or this like
you know whatever ghost house movie from the perspective of
the dog, And I'm so curious about that and That's
where it's like, even if this ends up being shit,
they will get my support just from a man. That's
a good gimmick and a good concept, and it looks
like it's like at least we'll execute it. I think
it will be like a pass even in violent nature.
I really enjoyed that. I thought the ending really kind
of suffered in God, I just think they didn't. It
did not end strong because even then too they say like, oh,
it's about the perspective of the killer. But remember the
end of the movie is like two people in a
car talking about the stuff that's happened. So I was like, well,
the killer's not there, so that kind of goes against
and stuff. So I will give this a chance just
based on Okay, what the hell's was moving?
Speaker 2: Gonna be a dog?
Speaker 1: I think the only thing they just gotta make sure
is that like that runtime has to be key or
it's like that other movie was it was it host
that movie watched through COVID where was the people on
the screens and whatnot? Yeah, post again a concept where
it's like very clever, very well done, and then you
know they get my support. So I think this one
happened because I remember Host runtime. I think we said
the good thing about that, let's see Host, Yeah, it's
like fifty minutes, or like let's see here it's oh
with British, I don't remember that. Let's see had runtime
fifty six minutes. And that's where it's like granted, like
you know, who knows what we do. But like with
our first film, Adrena cro On forty nine minutes, we
there was a longer cut that movie. But the reason
the forty nine minutes, which technically not a short film
forty minutes is in film festivals that's the short film,
so it is a film there is like I had
a longer cut that movie, but it just worked better
at forty nine minutes. There's stuff either it was just
like I thought the shots went on too long or
didn't add anything to it, or it stuff I was like, oh,
you know what, this scene doesn't play as well as
I want to or plays better than the scene out.
So it's like that's why I love like, I think
this movie should be something like what Host was, Like
if it's like a fifty five minute, even an hour,
because I just feel like if it's moly an hour
and a half, if this was two hours. Then then
I'm concerned because I don't know how that goes. But this,
I feel like if I see a shorter run time
in this movie, I almost feel like that's like a
I'm more confident about. But are you gonna be checking out,
Oh students see the keyboard? Are you gonna be checking
out good Boy? When you get a chance to?
Speaker 3: I do I want to see that movie? It's it's
definitely it's a unique perspective that you don't really get
in a lot of other franchises, like You're already highlighted
and violent Nature and and all those other films. I
feel like it's something that's kind of like a trend
right now to be tackling different perspectives outside of their
own because yeah, we got yeah, we've gotten a few
other things, like.
Speaker 1: Mike's right about this, remember similar presences year about that
fun house just goes from POV. I do gotta check
that out? I think the reason I guess that's the
reverse or that one. When I heard that, I guess
it just didn't excite me. When it was like a
lot of flowing around, I was like very cool, but
like in nature, like, oh, I want to see that
the good way. Oh, I want to see that. When
they're like, oh, this is from the POV of the
ghosts and they just gonna float around the whole movie,
I'm like, like that. I I wasn't running into like
and again, don't get wrong, but that was a concept.
I'm like, Okay, it is different. I just I don't
know if I have interest in that movie. And I've
heard I think that movie is very mixed. But I've
heard the people I've talked you really really enjoyed or
real like not good, but I I do want to
see it, uh as foch as The trailers have an
insane amount of lights.
Speaker 2: I think it will be Shutter's biggest movie ever.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I must be wrong for what'd you say?
Speaker 3: I think it'll probably be shut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I must be wrong. I suppose you
would know more than me. I'm definitely wrong. Terrifier was
not shut it, right, I think for a while I
thought it was. But it's not. That's like Blade Disgusted
or something. Right, But like, if it's not Terrifier, then yeah,
I think that concept of the dog and the woror
and and good for Shutter, like Hey, that that's a
fucking goal of mine. I'd love for us to get
one of our stuff on there because Shutter, I love
that service man. That's one of my favorite true serves
is out there. It's such a good time as so
as I feel like I have heard no one talk
about Presence from make me think it wasn't that good? Yeah,
and I, like I said, I think I two people
that did quite enjoy it and thought it was like
a really well done I think there's some good like
emotional arcs there. But then I've talked to other people
are like, man, you know, so, uh, let's see there.
I think they produced or put money into terrifiers. But
I did go with theaters and then had streaming rights too. Okay,
so yeah that's yeah. I could get with you then
like original just streaming movie on Shutter. Uh yeah then probably,
but yeah, I thought they were that way. And then
oh I do want to watch the Dangerous Animals from
this year with Shutter as well. Yeah, as a super much.
I saw your review. I want to watch. Have you
seen that preview at all? Taylor?
Speaker 3: No, I'm googling it now, Courtney, I have seen the preview.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shark but yeah, I want to see that too.
That's that's on the list. I have a couple other
ones this year I want to get to.
Speaker 1: But uh, let's see, because you even see the trails,
I'll throw you this one quickly before thirteenth because I
didn't throw this into your news last week, so it's
not as like relevant. But we're talking a lot warse stuff.
Now what are your thoughts on because I didn't want
throw us to kirk On as well, but what are
your thoughts on? And we're last adendum. We're not gonna
drop any spoils from the movie, but what are your
thoughts on them? I guess I was kicking the can
around possibly doing a weapons prequel focusing on I'll just
say the villain for now people probably seen it, but like,
what do you think about that?
Speaker 3: I don't need a I really don't. It's just.
Speaker 1: You're defendant hunt for Gollum, but you can't defend the
Weapons prequel.
Speaker 3: Hey, I think when it comes to Lord of the Rings,
and then you're gonna say do people really need to
know that story?
Speaker 2: And I could say the same thing about golland.
Speaker 3: Do Lord of the Ring is not original crew It's
been a freaking long time. We're in a whole new
generation and era of people, so I think there's definitely
room for that. But to just cash out on this
without any real creativity, just be like, yeah, we're just
gonna oh this movie was successful, Well here we go,
We're gonna announce doing a prequel focusing on the villain.
It's like, no, we don't need that, are they? So
is Hollywood so desperate to try and find that bang
a round of a horror franchise to just blow up
into a billion dollar ip. Yes, they gotta just fucking relax,
Jesus Christ. Like it's just it's insane. It's it's ridiculous,
I think right now, like horror is, you know, it's trying,
it's really really trying. And we're getting some wins with vampires.
We're getting some wins with with other monster flicks too,
But then a movie like this, I love weapons everybody,
and I love Barbaria, and I think, Okay, these are
some gems and all the chaos, and I think you
just have to focus right now and on these original stories,
these one offs, and you don't have to turn this
into a massive thing, Like I think what they're doing
with Oh my god, black Phone I think that's a
really really I.
Speaker 2: Can't take right way that movie that better. That movie
better deliver for me.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. Oh go ahead. When I put in,
I was gonna put in twenty twenty. The first thing
I haven't searches again in twenty twenty, first thing comes
up is horror movie. So I guess i'll I was
just gonna see what we called this last second. But yeah,
black Phone, Bear deliver well.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, and that's something that Okay, we
saw the first one and we didn't know how they're
going to do a second one, YadA, YadA, YadA. But
then it's like, okay, no, I think they made that
first one with this idea in mind for what the
second one could be, and that they were just kind
of kind of keep going with it. And that's them
not trying to just cash in on the huge success
and make a bunch of money and all this and
all that. That's them just like, hey, we got an
idea and let's just kind of like build this and hey,
like we've already talked about it lots. Like they're not
doing any new Nightmare movies as of late so run
with something that's unique but similar.
Speaker 2: He well, yeah, I have, I guess speechless.
Speaker 1: I like, I don't think it's the wrong thing to
do because it's just like people are inspired by anything.
I'll just say I think Black Phone choose a complete
ripoff of Nightmare and Elm Street. But I'm completely for
them riven off because they're not doing anything Nightmare. It's
a different way. But there are multiple things that trailer
people are in dreams and get attack and whatnot. No,
I was just trying to look and see the best rated.
There's a lot of foreign horror movies that I've not
seen them. Sure April has like, let me like read
some of these, like for the most best reviewed, like
His House.
Speaker 2: I guess it's on Netflix. Host we talked about my
Heart Can't Be or my Heart can't beat unless you
tell it to the Innocence, the Bone Woman, hell Bender.
These are the top rated movie the Boy Behind the Door.
So there's probably some good like I have heard this
one when Evil Lurks. I wanted to watch it. That's
another Shutter one that's supposed to be like a almost
evil dead. But April said, it's like it's a pretty
gory Audity. Did you ever watch Audit? You did, right?
Speaker 3: I didn't see a photo.
Speaker 1: No. I liked Audity a lot, so yeah, I guess
some of the best horrmone. These are just very you
know out there. I don't see any adrenochrome on this list.
But that's okay. We got the back Yeah, we got
the magazine trilogy. Oh man, I forgot the say what
we've been watching? I was watching. I watched fifteen minutes
of Megan Tune. I haven't gone back to it. That
was like last week. I completely forgot I started to
watch it. But yeah, it's I'm with you. I it's tough.
Let's see. Let what does he say, well, Blumhouse, the formula, Sorry,
well Blumhouse, well blum a. Sub's fucking me up here
because he's still look at the call the well Blumhouse House,
form House the formula.
Speaker 3: Out a ton of stuff okay in the head over there, or.
Speaker 1: He's on purpose trying to make me sound fucking terrible
to the listeners as always. But uh, it's like if
you have a one chance ten of hitting shoot a
thousand bullets. And that's the thing where it's just like
there's so many movies now that come out and they
don't do all the theaters and whatnot. And that's where
just I agree, where do I think this is needed? No,
I think the movie works better with it. Well, I
give it a chance, sure, especially because they said this
is gonna be based off stuff that Zach wrote for
that character. But they cut from the film right due
to time. So I'm like, Okay, clearly there's stuff that
he still thought was good enough. But same thing like
with a dreadaic R. And there's stuff that I really
liked that we cut. But I was like, yeah, you
know what, I that is a better route, but I
would maybe use again another time. So Mike said, what
you gotta watch Megan, very fun stuff. I'll get back
to I just like I just I don't know. I
just wasn't engaged. And then I just went on to
watching Interview Vampire again, like fucking got a bit to
Louis well Blumhouse. Well Blumhouse called the formula is to
put out a ton of stuff whichever hits fallow up
with that. There you go, I spose redeem himself. Yeah,
And to me though, that's the thing where I've lost
all faith in Blumhouse for me, and now when I
see Blumhouse, that does not mean quality me ten years
ago it did. Now I just feel like it's just
let's hope.
Speaker 2: This one good.
Speaker 1: So fan mind, do we need this? No? I would
give it a chance. I don't think Zach Gregor is
gonna be directing it. I would at least hope he's producing,
and at least hope the stretch goal if he rights,
that'd be at least better.
Speaker 2: But we'll see. But financially, when Weapons is doing better
than expected.
Speaker 1: It was number one again this week at the box office,
like nobody too is expected to beat it, but then nobody,
I guess disappointed the box office and Weapons only had
like a forty three percent drop.
Speaker 2: Like Weapons is doing better than it was expected to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can't in this in and age,
when you don't know something's gonna hit, how do you
not pitch a sequel or prequel? Right, even if it's
a one off story. I'm not saying it's a good thing,
but like that's that's you know. But at the same time,
you never know, because right I had that mindset with
Joberto and Joe too fucking ate it, so there is
time they can go make this weapons prequel and we
all go, now we're good, and then you do you
do blow up money. So it's not a guaranteed thing.
And that's where it's like, I guess the I guess
it's just gonna to me. I'm gonna have to see,
especially on Halloween time, how much that villain takes off.
Because that villain takes off, then I can see the
idea of a prequel because you can build, you know,
Halloween costumes. It's kind of like how Freddy eventually became
the Nightmare series, right, it was about.
Speaker 3: Villain.
Speaker 1: I think somebody will. I don't think we'll see them
about the kids mall, but if I dressed up as
long Legs last year, there's somebody dressed up as the
fucking you know ag.
Speaker 2: So like I guarantee you someone whoever does it for
Halloween send us a picture. Yeah, but I just think that.
Speaker 1: I think the only thing that's tough about this villain
is not like not two big spoils, but like it's
it's like a it is a person. So I think
there's an I think there's a cap of how much
you can do with said prequel and SQL and everything
and everything like that. So yeah, I don't know, but
I assume you're gonna be their day one when it
comes out, or would you.
Speaker 3: Want it?
Speaker 1: So I'm a trailers, I'm trailers and here who's writing
and stuff? First, that's what we're gonna wait for, but
we'll see. Okay, finally, let's talk about this. So this
is a kind of double topic. Uh, Jason Universe, Sweet Revenge,
that's the title. Now. I don't know because remember there
was the whole thing for many years where some people
own the rights to Jason Boorhies and some people own
the rights to Friday the Thirteenth. I do think that's
been settled somehow. I do, which that's why I don't
know why this is Jason Universe Sweet Revenge. But like whatever,
I do think that's settled. And they have said, and
I can look while you're talking, that there is going
to be they have an announced there's a movie. They said, oh,
we're not writing to announce our partners yet. So either
that means they're making a deal or that means they
have the partners and they're just lying to us. But
they say they're making a movie and they should because
the next one would be you know, the thirteenth, Friday
the thirteenth. But so it does sound like a new
movie is in the works. They put this thing out
here is like, I don't know whether it's test of
water is right up, but so they put this thing out. Also,
we're in tough about the movie as well, because I
have some things that could relate from the short they
put out to what they might want to do a movie.
Speaker 2: But what did you think about this short of the
sweet Revenge short? You know, produced by the the owners
of this ip.
Speaker 3: But Madison was like, why are they putting this whole
thing out? Why don't we just do a movie? Thought?
Speaker 1: You know, it could be a proof of a concept though,
because that's a way where you kind of show like
it's like a treatment, right where if you like go
to studios and you say, hey, look at this, but
we want to do this on a grand scale. I
think that's part of it too, right.
Speaker 3: Am I touching on the spoilers with us too, Yeah, go.
Speaker 1: Ahead that people are gonna guess what.
Speaker 2: There's people that campground Jason kills them.
Speaker 3: Well, I just wanted to highlight the idea of that Okay,
is this girl gonna kill Jason take over? Is that
what they're trying to do. Is that how they get
rid of the IP battles? They kill Jason. It's about
this lady that just takes over the mantle.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I'll find no, because they
could only if these are the people that only own
the rights to Jason, because it's called Jason Universe.
Speaker 2: It's the only they couldn't. They'd have to call it
her name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's how they kind of just like get
out of the I don't know, No, it's just I
didn't I didn't like that whole sequence of her just
like becoming Jason. She got stabbed in the chest, she
was turning darker and darker and darker. She spent all
day underwater in the lake. She's literally becoming Jason Vorki.
So it's like, why are we going there? That being said,
everything with Jason getting that og score coming in and
him just doing the kills when he puts the the
outboard motor down onto the guy's head and then takes
the prop off of the motor and just shirkin starts
it at the other guy's back. It's like, holy shit,
this is the Jason that I like. This is like
that two thousand and nine five of thirteenth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was gonna say, you don't act and
you don't feel was even more brutal than that.
Speaker 3: I would take that one more brutal than this one.
Speaker 1: Do you think this nine ones more brutal than this nine? One?
Speaker 3: Is more brutal? Yeah, because you got oh yeah, you
got some crazy shit.
Speaker 2: This guy get a motor boat ripped off his face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel like we've seen worse than the
other one. I have to revisit that one and just
kind of point out the kills and whatnot, just some brutal,
real stuff. But in here it it felt like, Okay,
there's a lot of good news stuff, but it felt
a lot like the old, old cheesy Friday the thirteenth,
Like when what was the old guy's name, Like he
turns around, he's got a spirit but yeah, and then
he's got an apple in his mouth. It's like, really, Jason,
you put the apple in his mouth just to like
complete the this skewed pig look like that's just kind
of like stuff like that is like old timey horror,
and so there's a part of me that his Biason
likes that. I just I want to see modern day
Friday the thirteenth with those cheesy old school horror tropes.
But I also like seeing the two thousand and nine
where it's like it's a good continuation. It's like, man,
this guy's just fucking terrifying.
Speaker 2: Well that's I was going to ask you on that
front before I go.
Speaker 1: Would you rather them reboot remake again or would you
rather them just pick up from the original connuity or
would you rather them just like not even say, like,
just just make up Jason movie and just you know,
leave it up to you where it is at, because
you could make a Jason movie and not like if
it's like the Superman thing, right, if you don't show
an origin story and this and that, and you just say, hey,
he's a kid that died and like he came back
he's killing people. That could literally be a new version,
that could literally be the version that was from the eighties.
Like you don't even have to specify, you just go,
this is Jason Vorhies movie, you know.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, yeah, it's it depends how I don't know
how fresh they can make it like as I feel
like just I'm biased because I would like it to
kind of be like similar to like stuff they've already
done and whatnot. But then I think that's not going
to make it very successful. They got to change it
up and make it new and different, and like, how
do you really make it new and and different, because
it's how many films like this would.
Speaker 1: Be the thirteenth, The next one will be the thirteenth, Yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Next soual fuck, well, they got to make a fucking
banger then, Jesus fuck, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Wow. So I think with this short, I the few
things I'll push back when you won. I do think
they're making Jason more brutal than ever as far as
like little Stuff was, like even just the context right
of when she gets the manchetti in the chest and
she's pulling out, that was very like brutal. Cut when
he has that motor boat and he or the it's
literally the motor of a boat motor Yeah, yeah, he
takes it off again, Yeah, very cheaty. Just breaks through
the door and then the guy actually no what he does.
Guy's running the door. Jason kicks the door down, it
lands on the guy. He holds him down. Then he
takes the motor of the boat, and then he puts
upon guy's face, like turns his head into mush, right,
and then there's another thing I could remember, What did
that guy have? They knew the storyline where the main
character sees her fiance and another girl getting on, but
Jason put something on her face.
Speaker 2: What was that thing on our face?
Speaker 3: Jason took a It was like a grater or some kind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. To me, that's where I'll push back.
Speaker 1: I feel like they were going on their way to
be more gorier, more violent. To me, what I was
seeing here was I felt like they were trying to
riff on making Jason not like him personality wise, but
closer to like Art the Clown and Terrifire in the
same way those movies had that very gross out of violence.
I feel like, Now, don't get me wrong, it was
not that level. But I feel like this was them saying, like, hey,
with a bigger budget, that would be the plan. And
I actually don't think that's a bad route for them.
I think I'm on the camp where when you said that,
you know, you don't know if you need the whole
like Errol Nine and the Apple I actually think you do.
I think you need to stand out because like I
know we're gonna get another Halloween, and those always play
it really serious, and I feel like you play that
up because to me, I do like Chasen and Freithurton
to be like sex, drugs and rock and roll. I
think that's the type of movie you should go and
have a good time, even with a couple of good scares.
I will say, though I don't I don't know if
this can work, and like like this sounds probably like
a very cold take, but I don't know if this
can work in this esthetic.
Speaker 2: There's just something about being present day that wasn't working
for me. And what I would love to me to
do is you remember the first ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Of Halloween Kills.
Speaker 2: They go back in the eighties, but it's like what
I would like them to do that where now.
Speaker 1: Granted, I get it people are gonna roll their eyes
because I think after Stranger Things Happened, we've got so
much eightiess people over it.
Speaker 2: I completely get it. I just think the aesthetic of like.
Speaker 1: With the phones and the cars, like there's just something
that feels odd about Jason interacting with this stuff. Maybe
it's because he just hasn't been around that much in
these decades, so he's linked to like the you know,
eighties to nineties stuff. But I would try to do that.
I would try to make someone to make a love
letter of those And that's what I would do is
I would not put any cannon on it. I would
not say it's not this Jason that fights Freddy. I
would say it's not. All you could say is it's
not the two thousand and nine one. But I would
just say, we're just making a Jason movie. Go watch
it and have a fun time. That's what I would say,
is make it a fucking roller coaster, have a good time.
Do that terrifier type of violence. So I think they
had that for me though the whole story, like people
that didn't watch this, like Taya broke it down. We
have a main character she's engaged with some guy. This
is like the set, right, it's only fifteen minutes. But
during in the drive, he like looks back and he's
he's checking out her friend and whatnot, and she's she's like, oh,
we should go swimming. And she was very bold because
she's like I got to go swimming, and he's like,
I'll join in, and she's like, oh, I didn't saying
with the swimsuits, right, it's.
Speaker 2: Okay, implying they're gonna go get on.
Speaker 1: Right, So if I'm in this situation in real life
and Emily's like, hey, maybe the dogs we're gonna get on,
it's not gonna take me too long to get there.
This guy doesn't even show up, and he's not dead.
He's just start trying to like, you know, get with
the other girl. But as the girlfriend, you would feel, hey,
something's up here. I didn't even clue into the water
thing though, tell you right about like he drags this
girl in the water because she's alone. She comes up
like hours later when it's dark. She looks very like
her eyes are unnaturally baggy. Yeah, she gets stat with machete.
She seems to be fine. I think this was just
like a pitch for like a just like let's have
a hook for a short film. I don't think they're
actually making this girl or a storyline like the New Jason.
They will rock Jason, but this story of like even
just everything in general about it, I was like, you
know what, Like I don't think it's af all the
actors shot it. I just feel like it depends the price.
And I love write thirteenth, I own Every Fight thirteen
and a DV I just feel like I saw that
I might go, you know what, I think we're good.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think this short was good enough.
Speaker 1: That would have been like and very different, right, but
they what is a Battle of Bedrock or whatever for
Jurassic three? Right, Yeah, that's a huge different budget everything
like that. But my point was always when I saw,
I'm like, man, I wish they would make a drastic
part movie like this Super Spell contained about the animals
and the real or the dinosaurs in the real world,
and go from there. They didn't. That's fine, but that's
I was kind of hopeful with this, and I thought
half of the short focusing on like, you know, this
girl and this relationship and her like she gets the
final kill, right. It ends with her walking on a
car she is a knife, and then Jason Caesar and
they like walk towards each other, look like they're gonna fight,
Like She's like, I'm ready to take on Jason. Don't
get me wrong. That happens a lot in these movies
where like the heroine finds her courage, but in a
short that's I don't think what you can do with
Jason right, like, and don't be wrong, Jason's like, that's
a very tough thing to do is a short, right
It's like camp or show up, some stuff happens, drug sex,
and then he shows up kills him like, you get
no character development. But I was just hoping for something
other than like I said, I think that they made
him more brutal, and I think that their pitch would
be like, oh we we could be like the Terrifier movies.
We could do that with Jason. And I don't know,
but super Mike says my pitch Crystal like reopens as
a luxury resort and Jason kills a bunch of white
Lotus type of characters. I've not seen the White Loaves,
but I know what your pitch would be. I don't
not like it, I don't absolutely love it, but the
same point is something new. My pitch is like even
with the eighties saying, what I want more than anything
is whether it's modern day past whenever. If they do
the campsite, fucking dude in winter, how come we've never
gone to Friday thirteen.
Speaker 3: Pretty sweet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've never We've never gotten that winter, We've never
I've heard other people gets pitch. How come we've never
gone a Scream during Christmas as well too, Chris. People
watch Scream for Halloween, but it's never had that. Imagine
if you have a Scream movie that's set like at
a fucking log cabin, you go, like, imagine that you
go away with a bunch of your friends. You know,
eight of them doesn't have cell reception, but someone can
still fucking call you because of course they probably some
fucking megaphone. But like that sort it's like, I'm a
big sucker for putting those type of darker characters in
space so or no space?
Speaker 2: Yeah they yeah, and Jason, So no, you're not You're
not wrong, Mike.
Speaker 1: I think you. I think the good thing is that
is a pitch where it could also be a bit
more comedic as well. I think the only thing is,
like if you do a sequel, it's tough because what
he closed down the resort and you gotta get back
to the thing, because like I do want them in
the campsite, I think. But season seven was supposed to
be a Christmas movie. But they fired Melissa. Oh Scream
seven season. Really, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I knew aboly the Melissa thing.
Speaker 1: I did not know. Screen Sem was supposed to be
a Christmas movie. That's super disappointing. All that's disappointing. I
hate what they're doing with the Screen franchise, you know,
but yeah, that's that's super different. Well again again I'm
showing my cards. We fucking put Adrenochrome in a Christmas
snowy area. So I already we already did that with Hunter.
We can't we might do it again, but now we
gotta do. I'm gonna tell Kirk and we're gonna put
in fucking uh what is it? Thirty degree weather? It's Hunter?
Speaker 2: You know the times.
Speaker 1: It's a summer movie. You're going to a log cabin.
So as just as I was thinking that, I swear
it heard that room. Oh yeah, that's a really disappointing
Then that Chris Scream SEM was gonna be a Christmas movie. Damn.
So much good marketing, damn. But yeah, I'll be down.
I love the Jason movies. I hope they do something good.
But I didn't walk away from this being like, yeah,
they really sold me. On another one. I'll be there.
Speaker 2: But like I said, I.
Speaker 1: I guess it's kind of tough because we were talking
about Good Boy and we were talking about Keeper and Hosts.
That's the same thing we were talking about. Oh, what
do you do for a good pitch? It's just like
same thing with Jason. So like at Mike's that is
a new pitch is something like how do you you know? Pitch?
That to be something different because even my pitch, my
pitch is just oh he was that eighties aesthetic. But
it's not nothing different, right, That's just something that I, Oh,
you can get you get better effects, you get better actors,
you can do some stuff like I don't know, and
obviously Jason's gone to space, but I really don't know
what you could do with that. But yeah, any more
thoughts on the short of the new Jason film happening
at some point or anything like that.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm eager for it. I really really would
like a new Friday thirteenth Jason movie at this point,
really would. Oh no, that's what's that.
Speaker 1: I haven't got one since oh nine, since oh nine,
and then we got Freddy in twenty ten.
Speaker 3: That's why this short film was a treat, you know,
getting the score in there and everything, and it just
gave me the the It makes me want to play
that game. And I'm so upset that that game is
not a thing anymore.
Speaker 2: They said they're making a new one too, so there
you go.
Speaker 3: I heard about that.
Speaker 1: But he already had the perfect game.
Speaker 3: This is already a great game. As buggy as it was,
it was great.
Speaker 1: I felt like that moment in the short film when
they gone the car and drove away, that felt like
the game. That felt like identical to that. And that's
where like it sounds, I don't know how you can
capture that right. But that's where I'd say, because I
don't think you can play that game. Can you even
play that game with like bots now? Or is just
completely closed? Like can you open up that game at all?
Speaker 3: You could play it offline, I'm sure they can't, like if.
Speaker 1: You don't want the servers are down though, but.
Speaker 3: If you have a disc copy of it, I think
you can have it.
Speaker 2: But how would you and I connect if the servers
are down?
Speaker 1: We couldn't.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think you can play it that.
Speaker 1: Like that sounds super dumb of me to say because
that's no, like it's not nothing too new, but somehow fine.
Speaker 3: Offline Bots. You can play it offline in a game
mode called offline Bots allows players to play as Jason
hunt down the AI controlled counselors.
Speaker 2: Oh, you can only play as Jason.
Speaker 3: Though the online multiplayer service are shut down, the offline
mode has remaining functional bots.
Speaker 2: As I saw somewhere of some exploit to still play.
Speaker 1: The game online if you have the game of your Librarry. Yeah,
I remember there was like remember those are the people
that were making like a like a PC mod version
or something, but they got shut down.
Speaker 3: Right that I think updates to it. It looks sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think I don't know what you do
because there's lots of in the Friday thirteenth, but that
in the game like that how Like That's why I
talk about like this sex, drugs and rock and roll,
Like Friday thirteenth should be the fun one.
Speaker 2: I think Halloween's a bit more serious, should be the
good time and maybe that like pick up. That's what
I'd say is remember.
Speaker 1: In the nine one and I was shocked when the
movie opens up and they're like camping and everyone gets
killed right away.
Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: But then it shows the title and it gets all
the counselors like the new ones like okay, it just
showed like that'd be my pitches. Start the movie like
mid like no build up, no, oh, this is whatever,
do like a you know, and may, hey, maybe maybe
it's take They can copy fucking weapons. Do someone like
Weapons did where you start and the campers are like
in peril right away, and it's just about them working together,
find the battery, get in the car, like all that stuff,
and you can backtrack and show how they kind of
got there, right. I think do something like that where
maybe just play with the how you tell the story,
because I think that'd be fun if it's just like
like make it a reverse heist movie where the heist
is fuck like the car keys are in Jason's layer
and we got to get in there like that type
of stuff, where usually in a movie that's just like
a scene, right, it's a quick scene where oh, grab
the keys and go, But make the whole movie about
they got a car, they gotta get the gas, the
battery and the car keys and get at her. And
as I mean, I steal from the game and have
that moment where like, oh, if people escape your cheering
for them, you know, get some really fun charismatic actors
and but uh yeah, some people my pitch and then
set it in winter. So yeah, anything else.
Speaker 3: No, that's everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, as gentlemen, that was it for a Weekly Geek.
Forgot to say were it was our first one? How
how you hold up since the match? How's how's the
neck going? It's our first one in the.
Speaker 3: Name multiple hospital nights, emergency room.
Speaker 2: Really, I just took some steroids and I'm going all right,
shot right in the knee.
Speaker 1: It was good, so nice, Yeah, right in the knee.
But yeah, iveryonna go back and watch that. But yeah,
and then I didn't say this at the beginning, but
Weekly Geek, I think there's gonna be one more next
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twenty five minute we're all together talking about a big
tray or something that will do.
Speaker 2: But the actual weekly geeks after Dylan.
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shows gonna end off, because very tough for us when
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until then it will not be boring