1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,480 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to thepeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,679 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,320 your support, the inboxes blowing up, the emails, the messages 10 00:00:33,439 --> 00:00:38,520 blowing up, phone lines on fuego. All right, so we're 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,280 going to get you guys. I got David, I got Emily. 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,960 I'm gonna get to you in a second, well thirty 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,320 three seconds. Actually, I'm gonna play this clip real quick. 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,679 Because Tijuana Brown, Charlotte City council woman indicted for fraud 15 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:57,320 with over a pandemic era loans, fraudulent loans, she has 16 00:00:57,399 --> 00:01:02,159 called this political, This prosecution or this indictment, she said 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,039 was political. 18 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: You called the attack political. 19 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: What do you think the motivation is that it's political? 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 4: Reason for I paid the money back. No one had 21 00:01:11,719 --> 00:01:13,840 to tell me to pay it back. If we're seeking 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,000 justice and I paid back the twenty thirty three dollars 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,560 that I'm accountable for. 24 00:01:20,519 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: Then why are we here? Do you call the press conference? 25 00:01:24,359 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 4: Why are we here? 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,719 Speaker 1: You called the press conference. 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:27,799 Speaker 5: So you got to put it. 28 00:01:28,079 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: If it's in the matter of justice. 29 00:01:31,159 --> 00:01:35,519 Speaker 4: And we're seeking justice and I paid it back, again, 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,159 why are we here? 31 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: You invited us, You called the press conference. Okay, No, 32 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,280 we're here because you paying back the money that you 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:49,079 fraudulently obtained does not absolve you of the crime that 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,599 was committed. The crime that was committed was the filing 35 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,959 of the fake paperwork in order to get the money. 36 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:59,400 You paying the money back does not now wipe the 37 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:04,359 slate clean. That's not how law works. All right, let 38 00:02:04,359 --> 00:02:06,480 me go over to the phones. Now we got David. Hello, David, 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,239 welcome to the show. 40 00:02:08,159 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 6: Hey, love you show. 41 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:10,039 Speaker 1: Thanks sir. 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,599 Speaker 6: Hey, Look, if this was a Republican this would be 43 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:14,960 all over the news. 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well it would be national news. I suspect, 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,639 oh yeah, oh yeah. 46 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 6: But the thing that gets me the most, Pete is 47 00:02:23,439 --> 00:02:27,280 this one party in general, but it's one group inside 48 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,400 the Democratic Party. They think they can get away with 49 00:02:29,479 --> 00:02:30,039 this man. 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,479 Speaker 1: No, I think I think anytime you got so this 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,199 goes to a thing that Jordan Peterson said, I've quoted 52 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,840 him on this several times, which is unguarded storehouses of 53 00:02:40,039 --> 00:02:46,879 value will become targeted by parasites. And that's what That's 54 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:50,240 what these institutions, this the government, any institution, if you 55 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,080 don't guard this the resources, it will be attacked. And 56 00:02:54,599 --> 00:02:56,360 that I think is what we are seeing in the 57 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,319 city of Charlotte as an institution, Charlotte School. 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,879 Speaker 6: And Downhill bro and it's by Democrats. I just saw 59 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:09,360 what they did with Tart McCary c and you even 60 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:11,800 want to go back, let's go to Patrick Cannon. I 61 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,639 went to school with Patrick Cannon. The big thing about 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,520 Patrick Cannon him taking bribes. It wasn't so much to bribe. 63 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,000 It goes back to patric Crory's White Rail where Patrick 64 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,039 Cannon's wife was a real estate agent and he was 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,159 setting her up to get money when they were buying property. 66 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: Who Canon was. I'm sorry, Cannon was setting his wife up? 67 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:37,159 What does that mean to get the property? 68 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,199 Speaker 6: He was setting his wife up with the people that 69 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,919 he was being probed with, So his wife, her real 70 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:49,520 estate agency could buy those properties through the city. 71 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: That would not surprise me, but that was I mean, 72 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,000 everybody knew where the light rail line was going, and 73 00:03:55,039 --> 00:03:56,960 so everybody, I mean, there were a whole bunch of 74 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,800 developers that got in on that, but in real estate 75 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,400 agent everybody knew the plans and that was that was 76 00:04:02,439 --> 00:04:05,719 part of the deal. Was they wanted it for redevelopment too, David. 77 00:04:05,759 --> 00:04:07,919 I appreciate the call, but that would not surprise me 78 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,520 if there was something like that going on. Emily, Welcome 79 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,000 to the show. 80 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,199 Speaker 7: How are you hi, Hi, Pete, I'm so excited to 81 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:14,759 talk to you. 82 00:04:14,919 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: Well, welcome, take my call. Sure. 83 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 7: I wanted to ask a question on this story with 84 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,120 miss Brown. Did you say her big fancy fiftieth birthday 85 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,079 party was in twenty twenty one? 86 00:04:27,959 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: Yes, it was. 87 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 7: Would that not be in the middle of the COVID 88 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:36,720 thing where you're not supposed to have all these big gatherings. 89 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,480 How come the rules don't reply? 90 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she was a super spreader. Yeah, on 91 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,079 top of it all. 92 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,399 Speaker 7: Don't ever apply, no rules ever apply. Yeah, Democrats, it's 93 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,920 just so well, I can't say. 94 00:04:56,639 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: It's infuriating. Yeah, it's infuriating. And this is right. This 95 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:02,040 was the and it was the same thing like, oh 96 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,839 we can burn down cities through our fiery but mostly 97 00:05:05,399 --> 00:05:07,120 peaceful protests. 98 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,439 Speaker 7: During gusts are fine, we can take all this money 99 00:05:10,519 --> 00:05:12,720 is for free or just giving it away? 100 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,959 Speaker 1: The problem, right, this gets to again unguarded stores of 101 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,439 value and parasites attack them. If they're not guarded, they 102 00:05:22,439 --> 00:05:25,720 get attacked. And that's exactly what we're seeing at a 103 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,639 societal level. You know, cities that have built. 104 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 7: Up understood why people keep electing these types of people. 105 00:05:35,079 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: Have you met the average voter? 106 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, you hear them until I moved to South Carolina. 107 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,079 Speaker 1: Emily, thanks for the call. I appreciate it. Yes, ma'am, 108 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,680 take care. Here's a message. I wonder if people will 109 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,000 sign up to speak at the city council public forum 110 00:05:54,519 --> 00:05:58,279 about this situation in Tijuana. Brown. Wonder if she shows up. 111 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:00,920 I bet she will, And I wonder if she can 112 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,279 hold back from responding. I bet you can't. I bet 113 00:06:05,319 --> 00:06:11,519 you can't. Yeah, she seems like she she strikes me 114 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:17,600 as a person who knows better than you. You know 115 00:06:17,879 --> 00:06:22,399 that's and how dare you question me and my lived 116 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:27,759 experience and all of this. She was also at this 117 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,040 Oh hang on a second before I right, I'll play 118 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,839 the club. She was asked about the timeline. Remember at 119 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,720 the press conference yesterday, she said, would an innocent person 120 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,399 come here and make a statement and answer questions? And 121 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,439 she put that in place as a standard that her 122 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:51,040 willingness to come and talk equals she is innocent. And 123 00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:56,000 then when she is asked about the timeline, she doesn't answer. 124 00:06:56,759 --> 00:06:58,959 Speaker 8: Can you you mentioned earlier you said when you were 125 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,759 kind of first to me aware of the questions about 126 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:05,639 the relief money, can you and when you paid it back? 127 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,000 Can you walk us through a little bit of the 128 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,720 timeline or like when you first heard about the concerns 129 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,639 and when you paid it back. 130 00:07:11,959 --> 00:07:13,839 Speaker 4: I just say I was aware of any questions. I 131 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,600 just paid it back. I paid it back. It was 132 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,959 done by a third party. The application was submitted to 133 00:07:18,959 --> 00:07:21,759 BYuT third party. So what I accept responsibility for is 134 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,680 maybe not scrutinize the application the way that should happen. 135 00:07:24,759 --> 00:07:26,279 Speaker 3: This is going to be a trial, so we're not 136 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:26,920 going to but. 137 00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: We're it's definitely going to be a trial. 138 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: But I do want to say this, so he do 139 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,959 you hear that she bigfoots her lawyer. That was her 140 00:07:35,079 --> 00:07:38,279 lawyer saying this is going to be a trial. Like, 141 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:40,319 we don't need to get into this stuff because he's 142 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,160 trying to protect his client. You don't want to give 143 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,800 the prosecutors more stuff to work with or whatever. But 144 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:49,279 the question was about the timeline, Like the reporter is 145 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,040 just asking to try to, you know, nail down the 146 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:57,000 timeline because she said that she was made She said, 147 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,600 when I found out there may have been some scrutiny 148 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:02,480 in the application. Again, I'm not really sure what that means, 149 00:08:02,519 --> 00:08:05,480 but she is alerted to the fact that people are 150 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:08,680 asking questions. I don't know who alerted her, whether it 151 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,480 was media, whether it was the investigators at the US 152 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:16,160 Attorney's office, not sure either way. She is alerted to 153 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:19,800 this scrutiny and that's when she pays the money back. 154 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,160 And so she said she paid it back a couple 155 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,920 of months ago. So the reporter, quite legitimately and appropriately, 156 00:08:27,399 --> 00:08:31,439 is just trying to nail down the timeline. So when 157 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,679 did you first become aware of these questions and when 158 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,879 did you pay it back? Exactly? And she starts in 159 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,919 on this other line of answering. 160 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 4: When a person has something to hide, they don't send 161 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,159 out a press release, they don't show up and answer 162 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,799 questions and so I've done this my entire life. 163 00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:51,919 Speaker 1: That's actually false. By the way, I have covered numerous 164 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:58,840 guilty people who put out statements, they usually deny any wrongdoing. Now, 165 00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:02,919 to her credit, she did not deny any of the allegations. 166 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,000 She just called them serious allegations and then moved on. 167 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,720 She never said I am innocent of these allegations. I 168 00:09:10,759 --> 00:09:14,799 didn't do this thing, she said. Someone else filled out 169 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,240 the paperwork, kid, but you signed it. And there's the 170 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,799 small matter of the schedule C form that was fake, 171 00:09:21,399 --> 00:09:26,279 that was used to create this fabrication of a business 172 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,440 and its gross profits and its expenditures that the IRS 173 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,399 never had a copy of. You never filed it with 174 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,120 the IRS on maybe somebody forgot about it or whatever. 175 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,080 But that was used in order to prove the existence 176 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,320 of the business and that it should be receiving funds 177 00:09:41,639 --> 00:09:42,840 through the PPP. 178 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 4: Out of the world. Have a national footprint fighting for 179 00:09:46,279 --> 00:09:49,440 women that are needing second chances, third chances, four kids 180 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,679 of fIF chances. What I'm saying to you is, when 181 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:56,720 I found out there may have been any discrepancy in 182 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,679 the application that was submitted about third party, I paid 183 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,879 it back. That's not in the paperwork that you have, 184 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,320 but I paid it back and it was submitted. 185 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: Defense say, the money was supposed to be used for payroll. 186 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,840 Did you use that money for payroll? 187 00:10:12,919 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: Again, this is gonna be for trial, So I've asked 188 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,480 her not to answer these questions. 189 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,879 Speaker 1: So literally after she says, when something when someone has 190 00:10:21,919 --> 00:10:23,720 something to hide, they don't put out a press release, 191 00:10:23,759 --> 00:10:27,840 they don't come and answer questions. The very next question like, 192 00:10:27,879 --> 00:10:33,559 we can't answer that. This is not a good look, 193 00:10:34,159 --> 00:10:37,799 this did not go well. Here's a great idea. 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The blanket declaration that someone 222 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:15,120 convicted of a felony in North Carolina is inaccurate. I 223 00:12:15,159 --> 00:12:18,039 don't want you to pass along anything inaccurate. Be well, 224 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,559 keep up the good fight. That is from Ben, Thank 225 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:25,399 you Ben. I thought so it was because Pat Cannon 226 00:12:25,639 --> 00:12:30,480 had not gone and fulfilled the term of his sentence. 227 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,559 So there you go. So she did not so okay, 228 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,679 So she did not break any laws by voting in 229 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,000 all of these races, I assume going back years. So 230 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,960 if she was off probation or parole or whatever it was, 231 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,360 that would not be something that was illegal that she did. 232 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:54,080 Dennis says, are you Tijuana? Brown's voice sounds almost identical 233 00:12:54,639 --> 00:13:01,159 to Jasmine Crocketts. Scott says, what and the h E 234 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,720 double hockey sticks is going on? How did she get 235 00:13:03,759 --> 00:13:07,000 that government job? She was elected to it? Scott? Because 236 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,440 while well, now I was gonna say, while felons can't vote, 237 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,000 they can actually run for office. Convicted felons can run 238 00:13:14,039 --> 00:13:17,679 for office. That might be a loophole we should close. 239 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:23,200 But then I have a message on the Twitter machine 240 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,360 from Vector, who says, Pete, are we sure there are 241 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,559 real clients overseas that she has? And it's not a 242 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,840 way of deducting just personal expenses as business expenses. That 243 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:39,200 is a very good question. Maybe an IRS audit is 244 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:44,200 in order. So I mentioned there was some guy sitting 245 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,240 next to her at this press conference, and they never 246 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,559 identified the guy. Now, he was wearing a hat and 247 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:58,039 the hat said Mobile Crisis, Mobil Mobile Crisis, and then 248 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,159 underneath it it said Cedric Bean. And somebody did say 249 00:14:02,159 --> 00:14:05,799 the name Cedric at one point, So I think he 250 00:14:06,159 --> 00:14:09,080 is Cedric Bean. Now I don't know if he himself 251 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:14,919 is the Mobile Crisis, or if he offers some sort 252 00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:17,440 of crisis services or something, but he has known her 253 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,879 for a long time, or if that's a different nonprofit 254 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,080 or something. I don't know what mobile, or maybe it's 255 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,320 out of Alabama and it's Mobile Crisis. I don't know. 256 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,840 They did not identify the guy, but he was sitting 257 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:34,279 next to her during this press conference, and he then 258 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,399 starts saying stuff. Well, yeah, well you could just hear 259 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:39,399 it for yourself. 260 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: If I'd say you spent thirty five hundred on a 261 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:44,639 venue for your birthday party, five thousand and catering, twenty 262 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:48,039 three hundred for photography, a rented throne, and a horse 263 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,559 drawn carriage, what was that party? 264 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,159 Speaker 3: Same answer on that one where this is not the. 265 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: Not going to answer that either. 266 00:14:56,519 --> 00:14:58,879 Speaker 5: And the reason I came in today is because I've 267 00:14:58,919 --> 00:15:01,919 been very supportive of miss Brown. 268 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: I've paid her. 269 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 5: Thousands of dollars over the years for working with my company. 270 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,720 So any insinuation that she took some money from a 271 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,519 PPP loan when she had three jobs. She worked for Uber, 272 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,159 she worked for Lyft, she worked for American Airlines. So 273 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,320 to say that this money that was related to this 274 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,399 PPP loan was exclusively used to pay for the stuff 275 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,360 like that, I personally gave her donations for that. 276 00:15:31,879 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: So you know, now you're not helping dud. You are 277 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:36,360 not helping the matters. 278 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 5: So the last thing I want to say is I 279 00:15:40,039 --> 00:15:43,240 come here today to support her because we're talking about 280 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:46,679 something that happened during the time when everyone was filing 281 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,639 these loans, right, And the only mistate that she made 282 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,960 was she didn't scrutinize it the way that she should 283 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,600 have scrutinized it. And once she became aware, they made 284 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:02,879 her aware. I'm gonna say that she didn't say it. 285 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: I said so the fact. 286 00:16:04,159 --> 00:16:06,519 Speaker 5: They made her aware that there was some problems, just 287 00:16:06,559 --> 00:16:09,120 like you coming in questioning right now, when she was 288 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,080 questioned about it. She paid it back, no questions asked, 289 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,159 because she accept the responsibility of the fact that she 290 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,440 did not scrutinize the application the way she did. She 291 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,440 didn't fill out the application. So the fact that she 292 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,399 didn't fill out the application and there was some things 293 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:25,679 that may have been put on that and may not 294 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:29,519 be correct. She's not saying. I'm saying the reality is 295 00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:32,120 that this was five years before she ever thought about 296 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:37,000 running for office. Irrelevant today, she staying here as a 297 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,600 person that did more than here Billy Bob could ever done. 298 00:16:42,039 --> 00:16:46,440 That company that didn't get indicted, right, she paid it back. 299 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:49,240 What justice is to seek to get the money back 300 00:16:51,039 --> 00:16:55,120 the other company they sitting over here and it has 301 00:16:55,159 --> 00:16:57,080 I don't care about the politics and none of that. 302 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,240 Were talking about people lives here doing an attack on 303 00:17:01,279 --> 00:17:02,360 this black woman right here. 304 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,319 Speaker 1: God, who paid it back? 305 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,799 Speaker 5: That's what we want. Right when you go to somebody 306 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:11,400 and you say, hey, this right here, money may not 307 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,119 have been obtained the correct way, right, we need you 308 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,200 to pay this back. Right, everybody has the opportunity. Urs 309 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:22,200 has a way to pay that back on their website. 310 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: Right, So you pay it back. 311 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 5: Now, tell me one person who have paid it back, 312 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:33,519 they got indicted. Other than till you want to brand, 313 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:35,799 you won't find it. 314 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: Now, that's actually not true. They've they've indicted lots of people, 315 00:17:39,319 --> 00:17:41,720 lots of businesses over the since the pandemic for this 316 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:42,720 kind of fraud. 317 00:17:42,759 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 5: Because the fact that the matter is, there are people 318 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,799 who have strategically planned to do this. Did they tell 319 00:17:49,839 --> 00:17:51,960 the grand jury that she paid it back? We don't know, 320 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,200 but they show didn't tell you. It showed not in 321 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,680 this indictment right here that she paid it back. When 322 00:17:57,759 --> 00:18:00,680 you say that, that's something that was in important for 323 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:05,039 the public to knowe. So we're gonna let the public 324 00:18:05,079 --> 00:18:05,680 be the judge. 325 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,039 Speaker 1: It is okay, then you guys should answer all of 326 00:18:09,079 --> 00:18:11,279 our questions if you're gonna let us be the judge. 327 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,079 Here's from the indictment. Tijuana Brown and her daughter Tejima 328 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,960 Brown submitted and caused to be submitted a fake twenty 329 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:25,079 nineteen IRS Schedule C form for the purported business. The 330 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:28,519 fake schedule see form was in the name of Tijuana 331 00:18:28,599 --> 00:18:34,000 Brown under the business name TC Collection. The form falsely 332 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:38,200 stated that TC Collection earned one hundred and six thousand 333 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:41,799 dollars in gross receipts and only had ten thousand dollars 334 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:46,000 in expenses, resulting in ninety six thousand dollars in net 335 00:18:46,039 --> 00:18:50,880 profits in twenty nineteen. This form was fake as it 336 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,599 was never filed with the IRS. This fake twenty nineteen 337 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,400 schedule see form was identical to the twenty nineteen schedule 338 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,640 see forms submitted for PPP loans eight seven oh three 339 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,920 and eight A ZHO four under the business names given 340 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:12,640 looks by Jemma as well as Antoinette Rouse. Those are 341 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,480 her daughters. So they used the same fake form in 342 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,759 these three loans, and they stated that they would use 343 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:28,039 the loan funding to pay payroll costs, and they certified 344 00:19:28,039 --> 00:19:32,480 this under penalty of perjury, that the information was true 345 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:39,279 and correct. As a result, Lender one wired twenty thousand 346 00:19:39,319 --> 00:19:43,279 and eight thirty three to Tijuana Brown to an account 347 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,519 for a nonprofit business checking account in the name of 348 00:19:46,559 --> 00:19:51,359 a nonprofit entity named Beauty after the Bars and Tiawanna Brown. 349 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:55,440 So not TC connection all right. So spring is here 350 00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:59,680 a time of renewal and celebrations. 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Between April twenty twenty and September 369 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:07,319 twenty twenty one, defendants submitted at least three additional applications 370 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,720 to the Small Business Administration in an unlawful attempt to 371 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:18,599 fraudulently obtain program funds, and these applications contained misstatements similar 372 00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:22,279 to the ones in the other applications, like the Schedule seaform. 373 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,920 Defendants spent the vast majority of the funds on personal expenses, 374 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:33,200 including purchases of Louis Vuton merchandise. Approximately one month after 375 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,200 receiving twenty thousand and eight thirty three in PPP loan proceeds, 376 00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:42,559 Tijuana Brown made approximately fifteen thousand dollars in personal expenditures 377 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:46,400 on a birthday party for herself using the Beauty After 378 00:21:46,559 --> 00:21:53,359 the Bar's nonprofit bank account. That's why they're connected. TC 379 00:21:53,519 --> 00:21:59,759 Connection was used as the business to apply for the loans. 380 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:04,559 The money went into this nonprofit bank account Beauty after 381 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:10,359 the Bars, and then that fund was tapped for the 382 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,279 birthday party. And that's not what the funds were supposed 383 00:22:15,319 --> 00:22:16,960 to be used for. I don't even think they should 384 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,640 have gone to that bank account. What is TC Connection either. 385 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,240 Here's another question she wouldn't answer at the press conference. 386 00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:30,319 Speaker 2: I'd say that you certified the application now under perjury, 387 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,279 So why are you saying that a third party submitted 388 00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:34,920 the application? 389 00:22:35,799 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: Said question? As innocent people don't When did you pay 390 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:41,720 it back? 391 00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 4: It was paid back a few months ago, A. 392 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: Few months ago, Okay, after you became aware of the investigation, correct. 393 00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:56,599 Speaker 4: But it's clear that no one told me to pay. 394 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,839 Speaker 1: A back though it's not actually no, it's not actually clear. 395 00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: Why did you originally seek the funding? 396 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,079 Speaker 4: I had a business to seek the funding. Yeah, I 397 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,039 was starting a new business. 398 00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:11,319 Speaker 5: Let's swim. 399 00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:15,799 Speaker 3: Let's not get into too much to give our entire 400 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,640 playbook to the other side here. 401 00:23:19,319 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: Why do you think the lawyer jumped in there because 402 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,799 you filed it for a business TC connection, but the 403 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,720 funds went to beauty after the bar's nonprofit and then 404 00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:35,000 you spent the money from that account on your birthday party. 405 00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:37,680 Follow the money folks were. 406 00:23:37,519 --> 00:23:40,279 Speaker 3: Getting ready for trial. What's the timeline? 407 00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 4: Do you know what happens next in terms of the trial? 408 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: Not yet, that'll that'll be a schedule that'll be set. 409 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,680 The indictments just released this morning, so they'll be an 410 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,039 initial appearance and we'll be pleaded not guilty of the 411 00:23:54,039 --> 00:23:54,720 initial appearance. 412 00:23:54,799 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 5: Absolutely, initial appearance tomorrow. Yes, I would ask to the 413 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,839 US attorney, and I'm making this request on the ad 414 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:07,880 for the community, give him miss Brown the same consideration 415 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,319 that was given to these NB. Yeah, he'll been to 416 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,799 barbecue like she has a right to equal justice and 417 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,359 until fourteenth for meny right. 418 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: So okay, I'm gonna stop it right there because he's 419 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,079 going to try to say that these are equivalent cases. 420 00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:30,440 Here's the thing. All cases are different. They are all 421 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,559 these cases are different. They involve different fact patterns and such. 422 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,960 But here's the story from the Gaston Gazette from April fourteenth. 423 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,319 The owner of a popular Gaston County restaurant has agreed 424 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,400 to pay more than one point five million dollars to 425 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:49,319 resolve allegations of fraudulently taking and using pandemic relief funds. 426 00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:55,480 Bobby Gerald Duncan and Dee and E Foods, doing business 427 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,839 as Hillbillies Barbecue and Steaks, have agreed to pay one 428 00:24:58,839 --> 00:25:01,200 point five to three million to resolve allegations that they 429 00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:05,119 violated the False Claims Act by knowingly obtaining seven hundred 430 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,279 and sixty two thousand dollars in pandemic relief funds and 431 00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:12,920 then misusing them for Duncan's own personal gain. The United 432 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,680 States Civil complaint alleges that Duncan, through his restaurant, Hillbilly's 433 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,559 Barbecue in Luell, obtained the relief funds through the Economic 434 00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:23,920 Injury Disaster Loan as well as two PPP loans. Rather 435 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,160 than using the funds for authorized purposes, including for payroll 436 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,039 and other business related expenses, Duncan misappropriated the funds for 437 00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:34,960 his own benefits, specifically to purchase a separate FedEx business 438 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,359 with his longtime friend. The funds were meant to provide 439 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,839 a financial lifeline to small businesses struggling to stay afloat 440 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,519 during the unprecedented COVID crisis. Where those this, according to 441 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:52,319 the US Attorney Russ Ferguson, where those funds were misused, 442 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:55,039 we will pursue their return as part of our ongoing 443 00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:59,039 effort to curb waste, fraud, and abuse of taxpayer funds. 444 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:07,720 It appears to me that the that the money that 445 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:14,599 was used here was used to purchase new businesses, So 446 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,240 it's not like they were using it for a horse 447 00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:24,480 drawn carriage for a birthday party. Maybe that's some sort 448 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,559 of material difference. I don't know, because if it was 449 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,759 meant to, you know, support businesses or something, again, I 450 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:33,319 haven't read through that court case. But then pointing to 451 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,279 this other case and saying, well, see this one case, 452 00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:40,720 we should get that same treatment. But I don't know 453 00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:45,079 all of the facts of that case. That's also that's 454 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,880 also just one case. Where are all the other cases? 455 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,640 Are there other cases where people went to jail? Why? 456 00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:53,440 As a matter of fact, today a fifty three year 457 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,079 old Moresville man was sentenced to nearly four years in 458 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,640 prison for running a six million dollar investment fraud scheme 459 00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:02,640 and fraudulently obtaining two and a half million in COVID 460 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,839 relief funds. The money that was both the business is 461 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:13,240 rather that he used Stephen and Deloro. We're both real 462 00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:18,240 and fake. So he's running this ponzi scheme and then 463 00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:21,279 he's also drawing in this money from COVID relief funds, 464 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,319 and so they nail him on all of that. So 465 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,440 here's a guy who did the same thing with the 466 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,519 COVID relief funds and he got four years in prison 467 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,400 and he has to pay back millions of dollars in restitution. 468 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,240 They didn't cite that case. All right, if you're listening 469 00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:39,839 to this show, you know I try to keep up 470 00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:41,640 with all sorts of current events, and I know you 471 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,119 do too, and you've probably heard me say get your 472 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,039 news from multiple sources. 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Yes, in a pandemic. 495 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 3: Yes, that's my answer. 496 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,119 Speaker 4: I don't have anything else to say. We know what 497 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,359 we went through in COVID. We know what everybody in 498 00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,759 this room went doing COVID. We know what the world 499 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:12,640 went through in COVID. 500 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the question is about what you needed the 501 00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:18,359 money for. Because if you needed it for payroll but 502 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,759 you didn't have any employees, that's a problem. 503 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 5: And it was a time when she was she was 504 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,920 she was working for Uber, she was working for Lift, 505 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,680 she was working for American Airllives. 506 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,119 Speaker 1: She was trying. 507 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 5: To take care of her family. She she I mean, 508 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,559 look at all the different jobs that she's doing right 509 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,200 to try to make ends meet. And addition to that, 510 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,119 she's trying to run a nonprofit organization. 511 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: And she tried to start a new company. 512 00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:50,599 Speaker 5: So with all of these responsibilities that's going up and 513 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,119 you in a pandemic trying to make all this it's 514 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,960 common sense. I get it. You gotta ask the questions, right, 515 00:29:57,559 --> 00:29:59,920 But at the end of the day, please ask the 516 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:05,880 question to the US attorney why that company, He'll Billy 517 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,839 Barbecue was allowed when they didn't pay it back, was 518 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,160 allowed to go to civil court instead of criminal court. 519 00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:19,359 Why would they a white company that's allowed to go 520 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,799 to Silver Court, and why miss Brown is here today 521 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,960 when their amount was way over the mount. I think 522 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:33,720 that's a fair question, and the media, in fairness should 523 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,079 ask the US Attorney's office, would you say that this 524 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,480 is not a political case, because clearly he'll Billy Barbecue 525 00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:44,160 over here was given a chance to go to civil 526 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,559 court and they didn't even. 527 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,119 Speaker 6: Pay it back. 528 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,799 Speaker 1: Okay, so you can hear where they're trying to apply 529 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,200 the pressure in the court of public opinion. 530 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 6: There. 531 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,599 Speaker 1: We'll see if it works. Pat McCrory was on earlier 532 00:30:56,599 --> 00:31:00,440 in the show, and I think he's exactly right. There 533 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,440 needs to be a unified message calling for her to resign, 534 00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:06,559 and it has to come from the Mecklamer County Democrat Party. 535 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,880 It has to come from the state Democrat Party, and 536 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,880 it has to come from the Charlotte Chamber of Commerce, 537 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:17,039 like the big time movers and shakers black political caucus. 538 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,480 They need to call for her to resign. Okay, when 539 00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:23,720 you get up there as the city council and you 540 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:28,119 do a press conference because one of your members, Victoria Watlington, 541 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,319 sent out an email fundraiser accusing the city and the 542 00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:36,119 council of an ethical and corrupt behavior, maybe illegal behavior, 543 00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:40,680 and you call a news conference to attack her and say, 544 00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:44,160 we are not corrupt, breaking news, we are not corrupt. 545 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,400 We run a good government, clean shop here. We're not corrupt. 546 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,519 We're not corrupt. You know what sends a message that 547 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:54,839 you're corrupt? An indicted city council member, That's what sends 548 00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:59,000 a message that you are corrupt. Stan says, I worked 549 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,400 for a nonprofit for ti twenty seven years, including time 550 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,599 as an executive director. Nonprofits must be audited annually. I 551 00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:08,279 would love to see the audits of Beauty after the Bars. 552 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,440 Spending money from the nonprofit on a birthday party is 553 00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:16,319 misappropriation of funds. Yeah, so there may be more layers 554 00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:18,799 to this. And just to address this guy, I think 555 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,920 his name is Cedric Dean. I'm not sure, but I 556 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,640 think that's who he is. He had the name on 557 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:24,920 his ball cap, so I assume that's who he is. 558 00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,039 This is why I get kind of ticked off about 559 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:34,920 these stories, particularly when I lost my job. It was 560 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:38,799 January of twenty twenty. I was up in Ashville and 561 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,759 I didn't get access to PPP loans or EIDL loans. 562 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,000 I didn't get any of that. I launched my own company, 563 00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:54,559 my own podcast, and but for the listeners who came 564 00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:58,559 out of their own pockets to support me directly through 565 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:05,079 the crowdsourcing platform Patreon, I would not have had money 566 00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:08,440 to pay rent or buy food. I am well aware 567 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,519 of the situation that covid created, because within three weeks 568 00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:18,519 or so after I lost my job, everything started locking down. 569 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:24,319 That's pretty It's a really tough environment to get advertising 570 00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:26,359 because that's usually the first thing that goes in a 571 00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:29,799 budget for a business. So I am well aware of it. 572 00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:32,240 And yes I take a little bit more personal offense 573 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,920 and insult to people that abused that system, that privilege, 574 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,720 but that's just me, all right. That'll do it for 575 00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:44,400 this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could 576 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,720 not do the show without your support and the support 577 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,599 of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if 578 00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:51,640 you'd like, please support them too and tell them you 579 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,759 heard it here. You can also become a patron at 580 00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:57,880 my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, 581 00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:00,839 thank you so much for listening, and break anything while 582 00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:05,240 I'm gone