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<v Speaker 2>this interview and then head to Orbyando to represent the

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<v Speaker 2>Giants in the Pro Bowl. Still unknown if the judge

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<v Speaker 2>will actually be playing playing football or not. Chuck Ingram

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<v Speaker 2>on fifty five k r SEND Talk Station.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight thirty and fifty five kre CD talk station, Judge Editapolitano,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what the hell Chuck Ingram's talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>which quite often is the case, is he introduces you

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<v Speaker 1>to the fifty five Carcy Morning Show. Welcome back, my

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<v Speaker 1>dear friend. It is always a distinct honor and pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>to have you on my show.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's always a pleasure to be with you, even

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<v Speaker 3>if I don't know what the hell he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I have mentioned before and I am not accusing him

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<v Speaker 1>of smoking weed, but it is legal in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohio now, so maybe that's an explanation, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>just let that sit. In the meantime, I am a

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate man, not only because I get to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Edita Polaitano and welcome him to you the listening audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's at this time, but I get a column in advance.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes out tonight at midnight as it does every week,

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<v Speaker 1>and the column titled a Republic of Spies interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>excellent observations. As always, your honor, what's the story on

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<v Speaker 1>this one, sir?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, one of the few good things that

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Biden did was to warn the country about something

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<v Speaker 4>called zero click. Oh yeah, which is you and I

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<v Speaker 4>talked about this, and then he banned zero click from

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<v Speaker 4>being imported into the United States used in the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>And he ordered the FBI, which had purchased zero Click,

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<v Speaker 4>which I'll explain in a second under the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 4>most likely without telling President Trump, he ordered them not

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<v Speaker 4>to use it. And it is stored sounds like the Sopranos.

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<v Speaker 4>It's stored in a warehouse in New Jersey. Zero click

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<v Speaker 4>is an insidious piece of software that allows the possessor

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<v Speaker 4>of it to enter your electronic device without you having

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<v Speaker 4>to be tricked into clicking onto a link.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so far, so good.

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<v Speaker 4>What's bad is that Donald Trump, who was victimized by

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<v Speaker 4>zero click, has told Benjamin Natanyahu he's going to lift

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<v Speaker 4>the embargo on it and the Israeli company can begin

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<v Speaker 4>selling it to American governments.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an absolute violation of the Fourth Amendment.

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<v Speaker 4>It's shocking that President Trump, who was victimized by all

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<v Speaker 4>of this the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>Around, would be doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's where we are, and that's what leaked out

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<v Speaker 4>last week, and that's why I wrote it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not going to see this in writing anywhere. This

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<v Speaker 4>is part of a side deal between the American negotiator,

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<v Speaker 4>Steve Whitcoff, and the Israeli Prime Minister to induce him

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<v Speaker 4>to accept the so called ceasefire between Hamas and Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 4>When this is over, you can resume selling zero click,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a big deal to the Israeli government and

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<v Speaker 4>a big deal to Israeli industry and is devastating for

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<v Speaker 4>American privacy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's devastating for privacy in the White House. They can

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<v Speaker 3>use zero click on Trump himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know the motivations Trump has to lift this ban?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I mean that the Israelis could sell it to us.

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<v Speaker 1>They have other allies in the world they could just

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<v Speaker 1>as easily sell it. I don't know the French government

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<v Speaker 1>or something, which means everybody is open to having this

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why zero click entered the picture.

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<v Speaker 4>I do know that mister Whitkoff, a billionaire real estate developer,

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<v Speaker 4>enormously successful, and who's negotiating skills obviously have impressed the

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<v Speaker 4>President did put together the ceasefire in the last minute

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<v Speaker 4>of the Biden administration. Mister Widcoff accomplished more in a

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<v Speaker 4>week than Tony B. Lincoln and company were able to

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<v Speaker 4>accomplish in two years. However, they must have needed something

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<v Speaker 4>to cushion the blow. Prime Minister Nettigna, whose people must

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<v Speaker 4>have asked for this and without realizing the catastrophic consequences

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<v Speaker 4>of it. The Trump people, and again this happened before

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<v Speaker 4>he was president. The Trump people said, yes, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if he has yet lifted the embargo, but he

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<v Speaker 4>promised Prime Minister Netzahu, who's visiting here next week, that

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<v Speaker 4>he would do so.

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<v Speaker 1>In whose hands would this nefarious software reside, It's CIA, NSA,

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<v Speaker 1>it TSA, and what lettered agency of government would have

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<v Speaker 1>control over this if it's back in Probably probably.

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<v Speaker 3>All of them.

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<v Speaker 4>But what provoked Joe Biden was when he learned that

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<v Speaker 4>the FBI purchase this, and then Chris Ray admitted they

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<v Speaker 4>were purchasing, but denied they.

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<v Speaker 3>Were using it.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, we purchased it in order to see how

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<v Speaker 4>it works. Well, nobody really believed that at all. He

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<v Speaker 4>actually said that in testifying before Congress. Biden didn't believe him.

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<v Speaker 4>The members of Congress didn't believe him. Biden ordered the

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<v Speaker 4>FBI not to use it. He should have ordered them

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<v Speaker 4>to destroy it. It's not destroyed, as I said, It's

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<v Speaker 4>in a warehouse in New Jersey. Anybody in the government

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<v Speaker 4>that gets their hands on this will have instantaneous access

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<v Speaker 4>to the contents of your digital device, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 4>mobile device, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Desktop, a laptop, or a mainframe.

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<v Speaker 4>Anybody in the government that has access to this will

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<v Speaker 4>also have access to anybody else's digital device, including the President,

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<v Speaker 4>the head of the FBI, the Secretary of State, the

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<v Speaker 4>Attorney General of the United States. There is no yet

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<v Speaker 4>known way to resist zero click other than by banning it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's bad enough that they can get that information

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<v Speaker 1>without a warrant, And I guess the only consolation we

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<v Speaker 1>have on this is that they wouldn't be able to

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<v Speaker 1>use information acquired by zero click unless they had a

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<v Speaker 1>warrant and then use zero click to get the information

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<v Speaker 1>off of our devices. But the predicate for that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a warrant. So if they gather information and they

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<v Speaker 1>endeavored to present it in a court of law, you

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<v Speaker 1>could move to suppress it on the grounds that they

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<v Speaker 1>violated our Fourth Amendment rights. But I view that as

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<v Speaker 1>a small yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Last week, a federal judge in New York suppressed evidence

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<v Speaker 4>that the FBI acquired under.

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<v Speaker 3>Section seven two. Seven two is the section.

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<v Speaker 4>The five so that it allows warrantless spying on foreign

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<v Speaker 4>persons and the Americans with whom they communicate, and then

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<v Speaker 4>it puts all of that in the database and it

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<v Speaker 4>allows the FBI access to the database. If federal judge

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<v Speaker 4>ruled that FBI access to that database without a search

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<v Speaker 4>warrant is a violation of the Fourth ammbents the first

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<v Speaker 4>time I'm aware of the suppression of any evidence obtained

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<v Speaker 4>in that way. So maybe things are beginning to turn around,

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<v Speaker 4>but not if zero click becomes.

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<v Speaker 1>Prevalent well in addition to information. And I'm glad you

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<v Speaker 1>brought that case up because when I saw it, I

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<v Speaker 1>was hopeful that you and I might have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about it, because we have been waiting and waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity for someone to make that exact argument in court,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem has been standing or in your particular case,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know that they've used fives that to spy

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<v Speaker 1>on you, for example, they haven't tried to use it

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<v Speaker 1>against you, so you don't have a vehicle to go

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<v Speaker 1>to court to argue that it's unconstitutional. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>happy to see that decision. But does that also not

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<v Speaker 1>point out that there has been a civil rights violation

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<v Speaker 1>and they could sue the government for a civil rights

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<v Speaker 1>violation and maybe get some maybe a symbolic compensation for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Short answer is, yes, there are a massive civil rights violations.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, if they don't attempt to use this evidence

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<v Speaker 4>against you, you won't even know. The journalists who tried

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<v Speaker 4>to commence a class action saying we're journalists, we know

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<v Speaker 4>they're spying on us, and this is a violation of

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<v Speaker 4>our civil rights. Those cases were thrown out and Supreme

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<v Speaker 4>Court refused to hear the appeal because they don't have standing.

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<v Speaker 4>There was no injury in fact as yet. So because

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<v Speaker 4>of this standing interpretation in the Constitution, the government must.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually harm you first.

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<v Speaker 4>Before you have the ability to challenge the means by

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<v Speaker 4>which it acquired the evidence against you. But God only

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<v Speaker 4>knows what they'll do with zero click. It just boggles

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<v Speaker 4>my mind. Trump and Whitcoff must have just said yes

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<v Speaker 4>to that without talking to any technical people, because this

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<v Speaker 4>really really opens up Pandora's box. It opens up the

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<v Speaker 4>President himself and his closest advisors to being spied upon

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<v Speaker 4>by Masad by the FBI whoever has the zero click.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, the zero click is not here yet.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe the embargo has actually been lifted. He

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<v Speaker 4>has promised to lift it. Congress should get involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone might want to ask Telsey Gabbart about that, your

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<v Speaker 1>honor anyhow well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, she continues to befuddle me. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what's going to happen. Her hearing, I believe is Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she has done.

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<v Speaker 4>A one eighty on many of her protections of privacy.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's enough to dissuade Republicans who

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<v Speaker 4>are big government and in favor of spying from voting

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<v Speaker 4>against her.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, time will certainly tell you know, honest that Masade

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<v Speaker 1>has this software and it works without anybody knowing it's

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<v Speaker 1>being used. I mean, they're probably using it right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just because we aren't using it. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>the technology. They're probably just tapping into anybody's phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>and devices that they feel like they want to tap into.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean from their perspective, it's efficient and inexpensive and flawless.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't care about the fourth of moment. They're not

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<v Speaker 4>the subject.

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<v Speaker 1>To it, and they're in lies the challenge, Judge Enanopolitano,

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<v Speaker 1>it's judging freedoms. The podcast. Got to search for that online,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find it. Who you're gonna be talking to today,

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<v Speaker 1>your honor.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I have a Professor Jeffrey Sachs and Colonel Douglas

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<v Speaker 4>McGregor on today, two of my heaviest hitters, as well

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<v Speaker 4>as Phil Giraldi and Aaron Matey.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>And at eleven o'clock this morning Eastern Live from Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 4>Patrick Lancaster, the independent American journalist who goes right into

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<v Speaker 4>the belly of the beast. He just got back from Kursk.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the area of Russia invaded by and still occupied

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<v Speaker 4>by Ukrainian forces, although the forces are rapidly diminishing in

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<v Speaker 4>number and effectiveness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, heard about that yesterday from Daniel Davis, retired lieutenant colonel.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't keep the manpower on the front lines and

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers are diminishing, not looking very good for Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be interesting to see how that is resolved,

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<v Speaker 1>if it is find Judge Ennita Polatano judging Freedom Online. Judge.

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<v Speaker 1>Always a real pleasure to have you on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. I thoroughly enjoy our conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Matter what Ingram says, it's a pleasure. I love these

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<v Speaker 4>Wednesday mornings.

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<v Speaker 1>We always let them know. Take care of my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk next Wednesday. Best of health. Hey forty one,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, if you have cares the talk stays and

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