Speaker 1: Welcome to soft core History. Welcome back to soft core History.
I'm your host for the week, Dan Chester, joined as
always by beautiful Rob Fox. Today what makes me so pretty? Today?
You're not wearing a hat. Get the hair out.
Speaker 2: Get on the YouTube YouTube dot com slash softcore history
and check this shit out. People don't think this is working.
They don't know why I'm wearing a hat all the times.
Because I'm lazy, That's all it is.
Speaker 1: But that's hat hair. It still looks great. Take the
hat off.
Speaker 2: The hat.
Speaker 1: The reason we're not a big.
Speaker 2: Show is because I'm not taking the hat off.
Speaker 1: And the reason you got cancer is because you always
wear your hat backwards.
Speaker 2: Well, if I didn't wear it at all, I would
have you even more cancer, I imagine.
Speaker 1: I think you just let it go. Yeah, the flow
covers it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. Maybe I'll just maybe this
will be the summer of flow.
Speaker 1: You got a little touch of gray as well. Uh yeah,
but that'll.
Speaker 2: On this side. It's most pronounced, that'll play.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get some grandy beard. Actually it's pronounced
on both sides.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the salt and pepper on the side.
But yeah, plays it's a good salt and pepper.
Speaker 1: We're starting to age. Man. Face looks good. I like
what I see here today.
Speaker 2: Got some sun not really actually a cloudy all day,
but uh it's outside work in the fields, working the lawn.
Speaker 1: That brings us to today's topic, our youth. We're doing
to tell on Grandex Now, Oh, I was gonna make
that joke. Actually, yeah, we're this is the.
Speaker 2: Real story of Oh boy. Yeah, there's just a little
bit of ex grand Ex drama going on right now.
And we were talking off air about like, so the
there was a ross ball and who was on this
podcast in Madison Wickham love both love both who Madison
who sponsored this podcast briefly? But you guys didn't buy enough.
Speaker 1: No, you know, I think he got the message out
there that they exist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put the product on the radar Hill Country Provisions
and he'll I forget what is.
Speaker 1: No, he's gonna pay it in Chill Country. We're not
giving him more fair enough. He's gotta pay us fair enough. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They did a podcast that was The Rise and Fall TFM,
and that, to no offense, Guys didn't really talk.
Speaker 1: Guys didn't say a goddamn thing.
Speaker 2: Fucking anything.
Speaker 1: Uh, and then and there's so much meat on that bone.
It would just be for a great docu series.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, and maybe we're too close to it.
A couple of the girls, Veronica who's been on this show,
and Christina Montemor, who is Gabby's sister. That's how we
know Gabby. Gabby will be on next week. By the way,
getting too that in a second, they've been on TikTok talking.
Speaker 1: About how.
Speaker 2: Fucked TSM always was in the company. We don't have
to get into the get rid of anymore that you
can go look at it. But I understand why they
didn't do it too like name names. You don't want
to offend anybody at this point, like it's been so
lod I think I was telling Veronica. I was like,
you couldn't. There's no podcast you could do on it.
It would have to be like ten to sit down
in is. Yeah, it would have to be a production,
like a full production.
Speaker 1: And at this point I don't think anyone cares.
Speaker 2: No, it's not I just don't think it's a good
story outside of the people who worked there. Yeah, it's funny,
we want closure down, but there's a lot of funny
stupid things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you the truth is actually like entertaining
and funny. Yeah, but you will never hear it.
Speaker 2: I never hear it. There's just people I don't want
to burn for no reason, like the like the female
sexual predator whose name I won't say, but oh that.
Speaker 1: Worked at the company. Plus you know we've already had
two people die, yeah, which is fucked in like the
strangest ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again actually one of DVD one of the
passed away people we worked with me in the video department.
I don't want to say speak ill of him. I
wouldn't beeing like ill ill of him, but there are
stories that I experienced that I would not for the
sake of his parents and stuff. Want to shit he
didn't do anything criminal. It was a bit aloof yeah,
he didn't do anything criminal. It was it's just like
stories where he's fucked up, and it's like I just
don't want to it doesn't need to be out there.
And and yeah, there there's a lot of funny things,
like truly hilarious fucked up things where that stuff would
be worth a story, but it would involve like fucking
up people's lives.
Speaker 1: So what we're saying is we understand why the Ross
podcast said literally nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's some stuff like that. You
can go to Ronga stick talking and hearing her stuff
that is actually fucked up, and I don't blame her
for talking about that stuff.
Speaker 1: Or again, we are getting two into the week.
Speaker 2: I was just but there's a lot of people who
really just did stuff that it was a passing joke
in their twenties. It was like twenties stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was twenty three when I got the job. Yeah,
you were a little older. You're like forty five, that's
the time.
Speaker 2: I was twenty five when I was hired. Okay, I
turned twenty six a month later. Yeah, but I just
like to say, oh, it's twenty five when I start
work there, it sounds better.
Speaker 1: I was so young. Yeah, I was so young. Are
you kidding me? I still am young, forever young.
Speaker 2: But oh, to the point about Gabby that I want
to say she'll be on the show next week, because
one of our listeners slid into her DMS and said, man,
the boys need you like shows down bad or something
like that.
Speaker 1: We've been going back to back to back with just us. Yeah,
and the people don't. People yearn for the guests, assume
they don't like us. I think we have a little
good dynamic gilling kind of like an old married couple.
We are at absolutely an old married couple at this point.
This is our child. We don't like each other. We're
staying together for the kids. Yep, yep, keeping professional soon
as been graduate high school. Yeah yeah, and I'm taking half.
Speaker 2: It's only fair. I do agree, you're the wife in
this scenario. Just browbeaten.
Speaker 1: M m uh no. Today's episode is actually based on
real life events. Obviously it's history, but I mean my
own personal experience, okay, which was being at the airport
for nine hours at Chicago.
Speaker 2: O'Hare.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the inspiration for today's episode.
Speaker 2: And again I said this to you before the show.
I love those days.
Speaker 1: I think it was actually an enjoyable day. Nothing matters,
all things considered. I accepted my fate and I'm like,
I wanna make the most of this. Fuck it yep.
And once you're there, nothing matters. No one can tell
you shit.
Speaker 2: It's like when you're taking a dump, you know what
I mean, Like you can't be bothered, like, oh, I'm
taking a jump, and they're like, oh, okay, wait, it'll
wait wait wait.
Speaker 1: I went deeper though, I started to stare into the
simulation that was the airport.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a normal play. Any airport is just
not a normal play.
Speaker 1: You're coming across thousands of faces. I just walked, honestly
from terminal to terminal, trying to find like good food spots,
things to look at. Yeah, try to be funny on Instagram. Yeah,
people don't really pay attention at the airport, is what
I gathered. No, everyone's got their headphones in. They're kind
of like head down, or they're like looking past you.
When you start to stare directly at people as you
pass them, they get freaked out. So that's what I
spent my day, the majority of my day doing.
Speaker 2: Good Lord, all right, yeah that's psycho shit. So did
they have to meet the airport. I'd just go to TSA.
Speaker 1: Well what probably looked like psycho shit was I kept
doing laps around the terminal. Yes, So anyone that was
at a gate probably thought I was a terrorist, yeah,
or like I don't want to be main character syndrome,
they probably thought I was a bot.
Speaker 2: Like they thought you were an NPC yeah, probably you're
probably like, this is broken. Someone who was having like
a really anxious day kept seeing you and was like,
I just wear a sucker.
Speaker 1: What the fuck, dude, I had somebody obviously have a
mental breakdown. Just watch me go back and forth, back
and forth, back and forth. I got over like twenty
thousand steps yesterday at the airport. Was sick.
Speaker 2: Good lord. I would have sat down at like the
second bar I.
Speaker 1: Saw, and I didn't want to drink.
Speaker 2: That's stupid. I wouldn't drink for nine hours. But yeah,
I would have been like, what time is your flight?
Nine o'clock?
Speaker 1: Nine I got so I got an hour late. Uh,
because for some reason the first flight Ali State College,
the plane just wasn't there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds about right.
Speaker 1: So we showed up at like noon, so like noon nine.
Speaker 2: In one in O'Hare in O'Hare. Yeah, I would have
been like, Okay, I'm gonna start drinking at three. I'm
gonna eat lunch, maybe take a nap in a seat,
wake back up, and drink until my flight.
Speaker 1: Well, I spent my time doing something a little bit
more positive writing this episode.
Speaker 2: So I thought you said you're staring at people.
Speaker 1: Well, there's that. I wasn't just staring at people.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was noticing people, okay that didn't want to be noticed.
There was I saw a girl literally set up a
fucking iPhone tripod hell yeah, and walk away and like
come back and then take her phone. Get the shot.
She got the shot. She was making a reel. Hell yeah,
one thousand percent was getting three to four seconds for
an airport reel. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now what do you think the views on that was?
I don't know, five thousand.
Speaker 1: No, she's not hitting four digits, Okay, I'm thinking yeah,
like maybe in like the.
Speaker 2: Two thirties, okay, yep, amateur numbers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. But I spent my time being inspired and
writing this episode for a good like three or four hours, okay,
and today we're actually gonna cover somebody that is very
prevalently known in this country. But I feel like we
kind of YadA YadA YadA them. Okay, the Right Brothers,
Yeah we do. We're like, oh no, yeah, the Right Brothers.
They're in Vendea planes. It is insane that we take
flight from the fucking ground for granted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 1: It was just an inconvenience. Yesterday, I'm like Oh man,
I was an hour lay to a hair missed my fly.
I had to rebook. I got nine hours in wait,
like no throughout human history. Oh no, I gotta wait
nine hours to get thousands of miles away. Yeah, okay,
I'll take that deal, right. Yeah, Like, if.
Speaker 2: You had taken a train that was on time at noon,
you would have gotten home like.
Speaker 1: Now, probably not even it would be more than twenty
four hours.
Speaker 2: And that assumes you wouldn't when you weren't robbed or
derailed at any point.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, you gotta watch out for those cowboys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they love pops on.
Speaker 1: The horses are running the same speed. Take your your
pocket watch. A lot of dynamite involved, blown up safes.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. I would have been like, I'll just open it.
Can I just get to where I'm fucking going for us?
Speaker 1: Now, we just got to worry about some asshole leaving
a lithium battery underneath.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, taking the whole plane down.
Speaker 2: That's about it. That's all you need, That's all you
gotta worry about.
Speaker 1: No. I was looking into the Red Brothers. I'm like, man,
they they really get no credit.
Speaker 2: I mean, weird. There's a lot of weird stuff with flight,
Like we invented flight and we were off planet fifty
years later.
Speaker 1: M h, I don't know if we necessarily invented flight.
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: They weren't the first to fly, They were like the
first to fly with a motor, a motor. Okay, yeah,
it's a bit of a caveat. But they also developed
what we know as modern aviation.
Speaker 2: I think they deserve the credit.
Speaker 1: I think they get the credit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that and then even the flight itself, even
the motorized flight, so whatever you gonna call it, that happened.
I always like to say, the craziest thing is we
invented writing. We invented external data storage after existing for
I think like two hundred thousand years as this version,
and then we invented external data storage and we're off
planet in three thousand years.
Speaker 1: We're how about just we invented motorized flight and we
were off planet in sixty years fifty fifty six years. No,
we got I mean we got to the moon in
sixty years. Yeah, but the first person off the planet
was even before that, I know. Yeah, so about fifty
years it's good progress, yeah, yeah, kind of stalling out
I know actually we're not, though, I just I'm.
Speaker 2: Just saying, like Elon Musk is in the wrong government department.
Speaker 1: Did we have a supercomputer in our pocket at all times?
Speaker 2: I know I'm not in overall tech. I just mean
in space exploration.
Speaker 1: I think that was on purpose though, those kind of
cut spending fuck that. We need to explore.
Speaker 2: We need to be adventurers again, must be off planet.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: Wilbur and Orville were two of seven children born to
Milton and Susan Wright. Milton was a clergyman with family
ties to the Vanderbilts. Ooh, I know, there's a couple
of weird connections throughout this episode, and Will and Arv
were known around their Dayton, Ohio neighborhood as the Bishop's Boys.
Milton traveled to Tons spreading the good word, and the
rights moved twelve times before settling back down and Dayton
permanently in eighteen eighty four. The brothers got their ingenuity
genes from their mother, though Susan, who grew up working
for her father's carriage making business. And she was a
little handy herself, Okay, she'd be making toys for them,
sleds wagons all by hand.
Speaker 2: So she was Marisa Tome and my cousin Vinnie.
Speaker 1: Her dad's such a long time since I've seen that movie.
Speaker 2: Her dad and Alder brothers worked in an auto shop
and she just picked it all up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Their inspiration was a childhood toy their father brought back
in eighteen seventy eight. It was a cork, bamboo and
paper French design model helicopter before there were what helicopters were. Granted,
Da Vinci kind of had like a.
Speaker 2: He made a drawing.
Speaker 1: He had like a I drew a space by Cole
helicopter thing.
Speaker 2: I drew a spaceship when I was five.
Speaker 1: There are plenty of people from Da Vinci all the
way to the Right Brothers that like fucked around with
the idea of flight.
Speaker 2: Right, and then obviously I had like you had hot
air balloons, and.
Speaker 1: Hot air balloons were late seventeen hundreds, I think, yea,
something like the French. The French were kind of leading
the way.
Speaker 2: There was a miskind of stuff when the French were
good at science. People forget what happened France stuff.
Speaker 1: So they saw this thing flutter from the ceiling back
to the ground across the room, and they were taken aback.
They were just like, what if we did this bigger
but bigger? Yeah. Wilbur was athletic and planned to attend Yale,
but during a pickup hockey game in eighteen eighty six,
he had his upper front teeth knocked out by then
friend Oliver Crook Hugh. Wilber suffered jewl injuries, was fitted
for false teeth, suffered digestive complications after, and fell into
a bit of a depressive state that made him drop
out of high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you just got made ugly for the rest
of your life in a false teeth in a pickup
high school game of hockey.
Speaker 1: Which wasn't really a sport then. Just like the earliest
days of.
Speaker 2: Hockey, what were they even doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think technically hockey, or at least the what
we officially recognized as hockey's like eighteen seventies.
Speaker 2: Okay, so like very early eighteen eighties. He just got
fucked up in a game of pond hock.
Speaker 1: It's sick. Yeah, so this guy though, that knocks out
his teeth, Oliver Crook Hugh, that names some familiar no.
Speaker 2: But you keep saying it though, even the first time
you said it the way you said it.
Speaker 1: I just he becomes a prominent serial killer. Oh hell yeah. Yeah,
so this guy wanted blood. This might have been early
stages of him figuring out that he was a monster. Yeah,
it just could have been the first. This was definitely
on purp.
Speaker 2: That could have been the first human blood, you know
what I mean. Like he had killed rabbits or something,
but a cat. But this was the first time the
shark tasted human blood in the water.
Speaker 1: He liked it.
Speaker 2: Oh, sent him into a frenzy.
Speaker 1: Neither right. Brother finished high school. The family moved right
before Wilbur finished his four years, so he never technically
received his documentation, and Orville dropped out his senior year
to start a printing business. Wilbur was awarded his diploma
in nineteen ninety four. Obviously that would would posthumously his
one and twenty seventh birthday. Okay, yeah, yeahh so very posthumously. Yeah.
Rather than go to an Ivy League institution, Wilbur stayed
home to take care of his mother, who was terminally
ill with tuberculosis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that'll happen.
Speaker 1: And he joined Orville in the print game. The two
published a weekly newspaper, the west Side News, and for
a short period of time they went daily, but found
that to be a little too challenging. They weren't about
daily content.
Speaker 2: Fuck daily content.
Speaker 1: There's like we're just doing once a week.
Speaker 2: I've done it.
Speaker 1: Daily content is a grind. It is you lose yourself,
you lose ever, Like, yeah, just dude, we spent the
first ten minutes of the show talking about it. I
just remember, and I don't even talking about that. That's
just personal bullshit. No, but literally, that's the only reason
we cares because we were in the grind. We were
in the meat grinder.
Speaker 2: You It's just funny how like you stop seeing people
as people because you like, write a news story you
don't care. And I would get emails multiple times and
that would remind me like, oh, this wasn't a big
deal to me because I write five of these stories
a day.
Speaker 1: This was life changing for them.
Speaker 2: This person's having an existential crisis over the story I
wrote about them and whatever they did.
Speaker 1: You don't hate the media enough, guys. Yeah, I was like,
fair enough, Rob's why you should hate the media.
Speaker 2: I was like fair anything anyone ever asked to get
taken down? I took down. And you've said it before too,
and we both had to do this at different points
in our careers. At TFMU post pictures of hot girls
and it just ruins you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of just zone it out. You get
totally jaded and numb to it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely numb to women who are otherwise attractive.
Speaker 1: You're just like ma, ma, nah, just because your brain
sees so much. It's just an image after image after
image that you just fries you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, daily content's not healthy. It's what cable news is bad.
Speaker 1: That's why the internet's honestly bad.
Speaker 2: Why the internet's best.
Speaker 1: Listen to our show, don't do anything else, get outside,
touch grass.
Speaker 2: There's only one hour a week. You don't need to
touch grass three hours if you want to listen to
the Patreon.
Speaker 1: And we'd appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, even though fucking Patreons.
And I'll take it like it's just straight up robin us.
Well Apple, yeah, fucking Apple, God damn it. Uh. They
then pivoted to a bicycle repair shop, the Right Cycle Company,
in eighteen ninety two, turning the national bike craze into
a profitable venture that would finance their aviation fascination.
Speaker 2: Got back into machines.
Speaker 1: They were handsy, Yeah, like their mother.
Speaker 2: Handsy is not the right word.
Speaker 1: No, they were handsy.
Speaker 2: Handy, handsy implies Their mother was Manchurian.
Speaker 1: Fine whatever tomato Tomato I Lettico was. But their hands did.
They just sound like fucking predators. They were putting the
bikes together by hand. They eventually would manufacture their own
branded bicycles. Henry Ford would actually purchase the original bike
shop in nineteen thirty six and move it to his
Greenfield Village Museum in Dearborn, Michigan. He picked up a
building and just moved it from Ohio to Michigan. Yeah,
in thirty six. That's one of my feel like brick
by brick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that was one of my favorite jokes
in Silicon Valley when they're like inside the garage that
Gavin Belson started whatever that company was, like the fake Google,
and then like it zooms out and they're or yeah, hoy,
they it zooms out and they're like in an airplane
hangar and he just had the whole garage moved into
like the Houli area.
Speaker 1: In the mid eighteen nineties, they came across magazine articles
covering German flying man Otto Lenthal and his handcrafted gliders,
and they would soon become obsessed with the human flying squirrel.
Shortly after he came on the rights radar, Auto fell
off his glider and plunged to his death in August
of eighteen ninety six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll happen.
Speaker 1: Wait, what was it a squirrel suit? No, it was
a glider.
Speaker 2: Okay, like that guy, the first squirrel suit ever, the
guy who tried to jump off the Eiffel Tower with it,
and they were like, please don't, that thing won't work,
and he was just like, if we're.
Speaker 1: Going to continue to make media references, it's just the
opening to uh kick ass.
Speaker 2: Oh, I haven't seen that ever.
Speaker 1: Actually, Okay, fair enough, guy just jumps off. I think
I think it's the Empire staple in New York and
just yeah, false to death in a taxi.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Brothers often cite this as an event that ramped
up their interest in conquering the skies.
Speaker 2: What his death, Yeah, they will avenge him kind of
by conquering the sky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just like, we got this. He like clearly
like he's our inspiration. He's got something right here. But
he made some mistakes, but we're gonna fix his mistakes.
The two never married, claiming there was not enough time
for planes and women.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought you never married each other casual.
Speaker 1: They did have a joint bank account, so they were
kind of married to each other. Yeah, definitely a little
uh weird. It was some weird vibes to this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or we'll conquer the sky together, but little bit.
I'm afraid they also kind of They never mentioned Katherine,
their sister. Catherine's a good third here. Catherine and these two,
they're the ones that are just kind of like because
they have older siblings that get off and married and
go off and do their own things. But these three,
Catherine helps run the bicycle business, especially when they're out
in like kiddy Hawk. She never gets mentioned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she was just picking up the pieces. She's
just that sturdy foundation piece that no one cares about.
Speaker 1: Or she's a woman, Yes, that's what I said. Sturdy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a sturdy woman.
Speaker 1: Orville would also eventually disown his sister in nineteen twenty
when she married and started her own family, feeling a
sense of betrayal to the rights.
Speaker 2: Good lord, this is a love triangle.
Speaker 1: He was really into his sister, yeah, and his brother.
I don't know, man, there's some things that are a
little off here. Well here.
Speaker 2: You know, this is to be expected with geniuses, right,
they can't be normal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're certainly an autistic type of vibe.
Speaker 2: To it, right, Like you know, Nicola Tesla was a weirdo.
At least, Thomas Edison was just a fucking psycho, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He just wanted to win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he was Thomas Edison. It was just Michael Jordan. Yeah,
just a ruthless piece brohit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do whatever you need to get your hands dirty, yeah,
just to win.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's it's why is the greatest as American
as it gets.
Speaker 1: It's the greatest.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't take Thomas Edison slander on this podcast.
Speaker 1: I used to, but I've come around people just whine.
I've seen the right in his ways. Don't invent anything,
steal everything.
Speaker 2: Well, first off, most of the art pieces of art
you see by like famous artists, like sculptures and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1: They're fake.
Speaker 2: No, they weren't. They weren't the ones doing the chiseling.
They had like a fucking sweat shop.
Speaker 1: And there's that, but there's a lot of art that's fake.
The whole art community is kind of a giant fraud
operation to wash money.
Speaker 2: That's fine too, but like a lot of these.
Speaker 1: Paintings that go from millions.
Speaker 2: Of dollars into they're just washing money.
Speaker 1: They're washing money, but they're also not real. Oh okay,
it'd be like, oh, this is a van go All right,
prove that's not. That's fine.
Speaker 2: But Van Gogh made all the van go stuff. I'm
talking like Michelangelo and shit like that. Prafael sweatshop, sweatshop,
a million people carving his shit, and he was like
the overseer. So if we're gonna give them flowers, I'm
giving Edison his flowers.
Speaker 1: He was just working on a job site. He was
the overseer, okay.
Speaker 2: And also he nationalized that like it's one thing to
make the technology in your little basement, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1: Let met a late mob.
Speaker 2: Well, it's fucking useless if no one else can get.
Speaker 1: It, and you can't keep selling light bulbs if it
doesn't go out.
Speaker 2: Right, did Henry Ford invent the car? No? What did
he do?
Speaker 1: Mass producers?
Speaker 2: He got everyone a fucking car.
Speaker 1: The death of British aeronaut Percy Pilser and another hang
glout and crash in eighteen ninety nine only reaffirm their
theory that their method needed to be the pilot controlled,
along with an engine and wings. They're like, oh, maybe
we shouldn't leave it into God's hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the wind is an unreliable partner
in this endeavor.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wilbert also discovered a wing warping technique while working
at the bicycle shop that would help with their design.
They tested this method with a kite in eighteen ninety nine.
In nineteen hundred, they went to Kitty Hawk to begin
testing manning gliding experiments that would help figure out weight
distribution for the pilot. Wilburt did most of the glidder
experiments throughout nineteen hundred, so before they even built the plan,
they're like, we gotta kind of get this like weight
distribution thing down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a sense of like, hat what happens when you're
in the air.
Speaker 1: And it's underrated. Every time they do an experiment, like
they're kind of taking their lives and literally at risk.
Speaker 2: How high were they going? Because the first flight was
not very.
Speaker 1: No high na. It's also the first flight. There's three
flights in one day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's also people kind of don't realize this. It's
not really talked about, but it was off a rail.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a wind up toy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it was shot almost like a sling shot. Yeah,
there was an engine that kept it in the air
or whatever, but yeah, it was. It wasn't like a
plane with wheels or anything like that.
Speaker 1: M So, in nineteen oh one they built another glider
with much larger wings. Its stalled out a few times,
but instead of nose dive in their design, gave to
the parachute effect that allowed Wilbert to land much softer
onto the sands of Kittie Hawk. It's kind of why
they chose Kitty Hawk was a lot of dunes in sand.
Speaker 2: A lot of soft sand to land on, you know. Smart.
Speaker 1: Ultimately, they were getting bad data and they were questioning
their hero auto and his designs.
Speaker 2: What was there to question he died.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they built a six foot wind tunnel in their
shop and began conducting tests to modify and mold his equations.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they're doing actual science if they weren't just
like building something and be like, does it fly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's science to.
Speaker 2: It, there's math to it.
Speaker 1: I should say the wind tunnel test of nineteen oh
one helped them figure out the mistakes in his equations
for flight, and we're seen as some of the most
vital in design improvements. Orville also discovered the importance of
rear vertical rudder, which would help align the aircraft while
making turns.
Speaker 2: Hey we should steer this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you know what?
Speaker 2: I think might be a better idea than just leaning
to one side or the other. So just some sort
of like mechanical way to steer this fucking thing.
Speaker 1: In nineteen oh three, they built the Right Flyer, which
cost about one thousand dollars to build or thirty five
thousand dollars today. Okay, it was made a spruce. Use
there's a lightweight wood would okay. It had twin pusher
propellers counter rotating to cancel out torque to keep the
weight down on the engine that was made of aluminum. Oh,
an aluminum engine that actually a guy at their shot.
Speaker 2: Made gets know what's his name? We shouldn't say it.
Speaker 1: Don't know it, yep, don't know it. Don't know it
just know it was a guy that worked there.
Speaker 2: Real Michaelangelo. Shit, yeah, real Thomas Edison ship see what
I mean, See what I fucking mean? God, Thomas Susan
stool Nuklutusu's shit.
Speaker 1: The fuck up. Yeah, this guy's probably making minimum wage
just greeting people at the bike show. You the job.
Speaker 2: He knew the job when he got there. It's almost
like complaining like, oh, we don't know the uh the
like second unit director's name on a film. That's right,
you don't.
Speaker 1: But you know what's dope about the Wright brothers. They
financed all their own stuf off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is all.
Speaker 1: This is all through the bike shop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like they're doing doing good business.
Speaker 1: Because at the time too, the US Army was fucking
around with the idea of aviation. Uh, they had totally
different concepts of what that is. Like what I don't know,
they like threw out just things off of boats and
watch them sink, okay with people on them. I don't know.
I didn't look into it too much. But yeah, like
there was designs that weren't necessarily the right flyer. They
were just maybe more Da Vinci esque. Yeah, where they
just kind of like tossed it off and see if
it would like kind of like a kite take off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there was people on it.
Speaker 1: Private O'Brien, Yes, yes, sir, get on this thing.
Speaker 2: What is it her? It's not for you to worry
about private around, yes, sir. Or let's be honest.
Speaker 1: It's black soldier either way, it doesn't doesn't matter, same
value back then, irishman. Just it's not not a Protestant, No,
not a white Protestant. Yeah. If you think the US
Army and our military forces are just now testing out
crazy technology new, yeah, we've been doing.
Speaker 2: It for a while, for all the time.
Speaker 1: The Confederacy had a submarine.
Speaker 2: Oh there was a submarine in the Revolutionary War.
Speaker 1: There was that too, But I mean the submarine goes
back to sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: Didn't we Yeah, someone I think one of the Kings
of England took it and took a sub in the
River Thames.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: People were always.
Speaker 5: Like, but what if we did it under well, if
it happened under under the water, Yeah, like.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's all British people do.
Speaker 5: They're just like, well, if it happened in a place
we didn't think it happened.
Speaker 1: The weeks of delays before the first official flight at
Kitty Hawk troubleshooting before they decided to go in the
middle of December nineteen oh three. To determine who would
be the first one to test the right flyer, the
two brothers flipped a coin with Wilbur Winn the toss.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, but who's the one doing most flying? Wasn't
what were you said?
Speaker 1: He did most of the glider experiments because he was
trying to be like a big brother, like keeping his
little brother safe. Okay, But ultimately Orville was la, yeo,
let me fly, Yeah me, I want to do it.
I'm gonna do this. He made the first but unsuccessful
attempt on December fourteenth, nineteen oh three, failing to get
off the ground and causing slight damage to the plane.
Speaker 2: How did not get off the ground?
Speaker 1: It shot off a rail. Didn't do anything? Okay, didn't
get off? You still kind to elevate?
Speaker 2: They didn't elevate the rail.
Speaker 1: I guess not. Three days later I would point it up.
Three days later, Orville Glory vultured his brother. He's like,
I got this, dude. It was his turn, Orville's turn
on the good plane.
Speaker 2: Oh I mean, by the way, that's still how we
like launched planes today off aircraft carriers. There's not enough
runway for it, for the engine to do it. You
fucking shoot it off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Soville is the one that actually got all the glory.
Speaker 2: For the first light God damn well, Wilbur failed. Wilbert tried,
he fucked up.
Speaker 1: Warville's like, my turn, I got this. Let's do it
in a coat and tie. Warville laid flat on his
stomach on the left wing. First off.
Speaker 2: That's just normal dress back then.
Speaker 1: I'm not give him credit.
Speaker 2: Ok that's like me being like, yeah, I just do
it in Jim schworts and a T shirt. Oh so
you're dressed like everybody else.
Speaker 1: He grabbed the controls and took flight for twelve seconds
at ten thirty five am, with his cuck brother running
along the side to keep the light vessel balanced. What
he was the brother was training wheels on the plane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we might need to take some shine away to
be honest, for.
Speaker 1: The first flight. Maybe they ultimately start developing like real planes. Okay,
but yeah, I know you gotta start somewhere. I guess so.
But yeah, he kind of ran it like it was
a kite. Yeah, we we did it.
Speaker 2: We flew I was there, it would have been like, yay,
I don't think you did it. Like I've never seen
an airplane before, but that doesn't feel like one. I'm
just saying, guys.
Speaker 1: It went one hundred and twenty feet before touching the
ground again, so like in length, not in height obviously,
right right right, Yeah, of course it doesn't get what
Wilbur was holding it up. Yeah, So do we give
more credit to Wilbur then?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so Wilbur was just dirty dancing the
plane the whole for one hundred and twenty feet, like.
Speaker 1: I'm not touching it. Yeah. The brothers then took turns
for three more successful takeoffs, with the distance increasing with
each flight, maxing out at eight hundred and fifty two
feet and nearly a minute in the air on the
last round by Wilbur.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Wilbur got the longest, but no one cares
about that mm because he didn't get the first. Good
for him.
Speaker 1: You just gotta be the first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all that matters.
Speaker 1: Got to be everyone to whatever. Yeah, doesn't matter how
well you do it, how Nope, just be efficiency base.
Speaker 2: It's got to be the first. There's only one first time,
and it's usually bad.
Speaker 1: After that run, a gust of wind ragged out the
right flyer on the ground and damaged it beyond repair.
It was created back to Dayton and never flown again. However,
Neil Armstrong would take a piece of the flyer to
the moon. Oh so you leave it there. Parts of
the right flyer are on the moon.
Speaker 2: Damn. It'd be funny if someone's another country landed on
the Moon and stole.
Speaker 1: It and it's also in the Smithsonian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew that.
Speaker 1: Granted, Smithsonian and the Right brothers they don't get along.
Oh really very well. I didn't didn't realize that Orville
fucking be with them hard.
Speaker 2: Why because they took a shit.
Speaker 1: No they wanted. They kept trying to buy it from him,
and he's like, no, fuck you guys, because they kept
supporting another aviation.
Speaker 2: Guy who is like their rival.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, so he's just like, fuck you guys.
Speaker 2: I think don't they also have the spirit of Saint
Louis there Lindberg's plane, I believe.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think they're like hanging in the same room, like
near each other. It's also crazy to me that it
only took twenty years. It yeah, about twenty years to
go from this fucking kite to like Lindberg's full on
like just plane plane. I mean, like that thing is
a legitimate fucking airplane.
Speaker 1: And you can thank the right brothers for that. They
do besides Kitty Hawk, they spend the nexule years continuing
to build upon their their plane.
Speaker 2: You know what's stupid by the way that I hate
and I guess this is just a product of there
is no IP back then, like IP theft is.
Speaker 1: You know, we should on China for like IP theft,
rightfully so, but that's just normal.
Speaker 2: In fact, we talked about it in the episode I
did on China's.
Speaker 1: Can I just build upon it right now? Okay, Not
only is IP theft encouraged. If you do not give
up your ideas, the public just hates you. Yeah, they're like,
you're holding back technology advancement, like we have you just
discovered this, like everyone needs to be able to build
upon it. If you do not allow other countries, other
you know, engineer scientists be able to work on it,
you're greedy and you're a piece of.
Speaker 2: Shit and you're stagnating development. Yeah, that's how they felt
about the plane.
Speaker 1: That's how they felt about the Right Brothers. Ultimately, Oh okay, shit,
I mean it seems like they get into a lot
of like legal battles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like the type of thing where if
it's good for the country, give it to the country.
I don't know why, say Germany would need it, but
that's what I was gonna say, is imagine how much
more powerful of a country America would have been if
we had just locked down ip that iype and we
were the only country with planes for like twenty years.
Probably impossible because all someone needs to do, all a
good engineer would need to do it at that point
in time, is just.
Speaker 1: Look at it. Well. Probably there's also a reason why
we don't really have it locked down is because after this,
the press doesn't really give a fuck about the Right Brothers.
They're so unimpressed. The Right Brothers like right, kind of
like their own again newspiace and just like send photos
and stuff and they're like.
Speaker 2: Cool again the first flight, We're good. It sounds pretty whelming,
you know what I mean. Like if I was there,
I'd be like, uh.
Speaker 1: And America in general just isn't super hyped on the
idea of flight, not like the French. The French are
all about it, right, but the French also believe the
Right Brothers are frauds.
Speaker 2: Oh they think they did it. Oh they think they
faked it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they either think they faked it or they didn't
really accomplish flight.
Speaker 2: There are I think as two other people who people
try to give credit to for the first flight. And
I remember this specifically at the peak of like woke nonsense.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean there's flights dating back to like the
Ottoman Empire. What do you mean A dude launched himself
out of a rocket in the Automan Empire.
Speaker 2: That's that's a circus act.
Speaker 1: You shot himself out of the cannon.
Speaker 2: That's a circus act.
Speaker 1: That's not in like Constantinople into the water. That's not flight.
That's not flight.
Speaker 2: That is, to quote Woody from toy Story, that is
falling with style.
Speaker 1: Sick though fair enough. I think it was like sixteen
something in the Ottoman Empire.
Speaker 2: I don't get that flight.
Speaker 1: I don't care now.
Speaker 2: I will give the Automan Empire credit.
Speaker 1: Off like the walls of Constantinople. It's not shooting yourself
out of a cannon is not flying. He's fucking evil canievl. Yeah,
it's not flying, it's kind of flying evil. Canevel didn't
fly over school buses.
Speaker 2: He took He shot off a ramp.
Speaker 1: He took flight. No, he got air, he didn't take flight.
I just think it's worth mentioning. A man launched himself.
I don't know what his name was because it wasn't
important enough for me to check. But he launched himself
out of a cannon.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, but that's what he did. He didn't fly.
He was in the air same way I'm in the air.
If I jump on a trampoline enough, I can go
high in the air double bounce.
Speaker 1: I'm not getting double bounce. I'm not flying. Oh dude,
there's nothing better than getting double bounced by your boys.
Speaker 2: Did you think you were a flying person when you
did that?
Speaker 1: I could do some sweet mctwist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy for you, but uh oh, what I
was I say is at the peak of like woke bullshit,
and people were trying to undercut like everything any white
guy ever did. Basically one of the ones was first
to flight with Wilbur and normal, right, and I guess
there was some Brazilian guy who maybe had the first
like plane with wheels, you know what I mean, Like
the plane did all the work. It wasn't shot off
a rail or whatever. And people were like, yeah, we
just bury that shit because we wanted to white guys
to be the ones.
Speaker 1: No, they did it. I fucking know that. Like that
guy doesn't develop a plane without the Wright brothers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that. But what I'm telling you is
that was one of the things that was like popular.
It was. It was making rounds on Twitter. People were
there was maybe like an article or two about it.
It wasn't as egregious as that one random history professor
who was like white people taught Indians out of rape.
Speaker 1: Yep, because it's so peaceful here. Before us, they weren't human.
It's like the noble savage. You need to be like
actually committed.
Speaker 2: If you're like it's I would that's fine if you're
a civilian.
Speaker 1: I think that.
Speaker 2: But if you're like a history professor and you're like,
this is a thing you need.
Speaker 1: To do, that's kind of sweet. Though you're just like first
taking it.
Speaker 2: Steven A.
Speaker 1: Smith, it doesn't matter what industry you're in you should
always just have takes.
Speaker 2: Yes, no one's going to know your name if you're
just like well, actually the ruse AArch points through what
shut up nerd.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I think come here for a history lesson? Yeah,
what do you what is your this weird data you have?
This chick said we taught people out of rape.
Speaker 2: I want to hear that. That's sweet, that's fucked up,
that's sweet. I like true crime.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: Well you said with your what fossil records, Like, I
don't suck my dick. I don't want to hear that shit.
Speaker 1: In nineteen oh four, they made the Right Flyer two
an invited press for an exhibition on the terms that
they will get to take all the photos themselves and
kind of have ownership over the photos.
Speaker 2: Smart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are media guys. It's a total flop. They
failed to take off.
Speaker 2: Well smart again, then.
Speaker 1: Anyone else take pic so again. The media is just like, dude,
all right, we're not We're done with y'all. We don't care.
Speaker 2: This is a fucking joke.
Speaker 1: The Right Brothers are not serious.
Speaker 2: I would have been in there and like, hey, maybe
you should have your brother carry it again. Maybe that's
why I didn't fly because one of you wasn't fucking
carrying it.
Speaker 1: Now, The Right Flyer third edition is what many consider
the first practical airplane.
Speaker 2: Okay, what yours is?
Speaker 1: This is like nineteen oh four, nineteen oh five, all right,
nineteen oh six, European aviation turned their media against the
Right Brothers, especially in France. The French essentially called the
Right Brothers fraudulent buffoons. Sure, that was until the Right
Brothers went over in nineteen oh eight and stunted all
over those frogs with an exhibition of flight. Hell yeah,
so they doubted them all the way up into the
point where they fucking like kept flying over their asses,
and just like, okay, that's important. God damn it.
Speaker 2: It's just like that right fucking French basketball team thinking
they're gonna take gold in their home country. Yeah right, dude,
get that Wemby bitch the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: Steph Curry's dropping rainbows on you. Lebron's is just fucking
throwing it down on you, frogs.
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: September seventeenth. This so, after the success in France, the
US Army comes to Colin. I mean, it's a weapon yeah,
but they had previously reached out Army had no intentions
of working with them, like we're good whatever, dude, because
they considered they heard what they saw or they saw
and heard stuff from the media in America, and they're
just like, nah, this is by the way, this is
the funny thing too, Like it's the type of technology
going back to what I was saying earlier, where like
it's not like an iPhone, like kind of all you
have to do is look at it, and you if
you were a good engineering mind, you can.
Speaker 2: Get a pretty good idea of what's going on. Right,
So they're kind of giving away a lot of secrets
just by showing it off.
Speaker 1: I don't exist and Yeah. September nineteen oh eight, Orville
takes up Army Signal Court Lieutenant Thomas Selfridge as a
passenger on a demonstration flight. A few minutes into the flight,
the propeller disintegrated, the aircraft spiraled and smashed into the ground.
The lieutenant was pulled from the wreckage unconscious and died
hours later. He's actually the first victim to die from
a plane crash.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, what's his name again?
Speaker 1: So Thomas Selfridge is the first to die in a
plane crash. His name was Thomas Selfridge. I already forgot it.
Orville also suffered a broken leg, four cracked ribs, and
a back injury that would bother him for the rest
of his life. At one point, they did not believe
he was gonna be able to walk again. Not only
did he walk, rob he flew. He flew, dude.
Speaker 2: That is not just the Wright brothers, but like every
fucking pilot back then, you just weren't a pilot without crashing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta break a couple of eggs.
Speaker 2: It's like being an er doctor. I mean, like I'll
never lose a patient. Like no, no, no, no, no,
Someone's gonna die.
Speaker 1: That's how this works. Yeah, someone's gonna die again. We
were spitting in God's face every time we take to the.
Speaker 2: Air, even now, but especially then, because God was like,
this is what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Even they're going up, I don't know, forty fifty feet
one hundred feet, that's all you need. Forty miles an hour. Yeah,
you're still gonna die.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't take that much. No, I mean, if
it like yeah thirty, people are so desensitized to it.
But like because like, oh, driving a car thirty mile
an hour.
Speaker 1: That's slow.
Speaker 2: If a cargoing thirty miles an hour hit you, you were
fucked You're gonna get fucked up.
Speaker 1: The Right brothers promised their father they would never be
in the plane at the same time, fearing he would
lose both in one accident. Okay, they kept that promise
all but one time, when he gave them the ok
to go up together on May twenty fifth, nineteen ten,
for a six minute flight near Dayton. So they only
flew together once, okay. After Orville then took his then
eighty two year old father up for his only flight,
where he allegedly just broke down into tears and cried
out higher, Orville Higher. He was addicted to it. Show
me God, take me.
Speaker 2: To the light, take me into the clouds.
Speaker 1: So after, I mean they had a bit of a
you know, a speed bump with that Army corporal killing
him or Army lieutenant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, killing this from the singnaal core yeah, killing him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bit of a speed bump there. But Army was
down with the technology. They wanted to see it more advancements. Yeah,
I mean, the start working on it.
Speaker 2: Oh someone died. Well, we're the Army.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what people get. Another guy, it's what people
do here. They received awards from the President's Haft and
worked on getting down a two person plane for the
US Army. They were able to hit their goal of
one hour in the sky holding two pilots at speeds
of forty miles an hour. Okay, But by nineteen eleven
the French dusted US unfortunately on aviation tech, and when
we entered World War One, no American planes were able
to be uple to snuff as the French.
Speaker 2: Right, So the French, French planes and probably English planes
at that point too, plus the German Camels.
Speaker 1: We ended up using French planes throughout our short time
over in Europe skie, So no American plans actually flew
in World War One.
Speaker 2: What were the French planes called? Because the British were
the Fokkers and the Germans were the Camels.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Keep going, That's all I know. Those are the only two.
Speaker 1: Did the Russians have planes?
Speaker 2: If they did, they weren't great.
Speaker 1: Known by various names with the spad s X three stupid.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I only know those two names because
I played a Red baron back in the day on
Windows ninety five.
Speaker 1: Never played it.
Speaker 2: Great, great game. I was I was always bored with
a dog fighting. I was like, I want to bomb
some trenches. I want to kill some some poor bastards
just in a trench.
Speaker 1: Dogfights had to be insane.
Speaker 2: At the funniest part is how it started.
Speaker 1: To take your handgun out and shoot again.
Speaker 2: That's how it started, which is also so well. It
started as they were both just scouting, and then they
were like, hey, we're going so slow. You could just
drive the German guy over that. I wanted to scout opposition.
So they started shooting with a pistol and then like
someone went back to the crowd was like, we got
to put a machine gun on this fucking thing. And
then it got to that point, which, by the way,
is exactly what's happening in Ukraine right now. All the drones, yeah,
start out as like spotters or little grenade droppers, and
then now there's drone dog fights.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: It's fucking sick.
Speaker 1: Hopefully World War three involves no humans it's all drones.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, plenty of human civilians will still die,
but yeah, yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, but like robot soldiers. Our soldiers get to
fight war from home. Yeah, can you massage the planning place?
Speaker 2: The fucking thirteen year olds all cracked out on like
adderall and shit.
Speaker 1: Just it's just called dudy.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Wilbert ultimately died of a fever in nineteen twelve, which
Orville and a sister bland on the stress of constant lawsuits,
specifically from fellow American aviation enthusiast Glenn Curtis over patents.
As I mentioned, Larry the beef with the Smithsonian who
backed Glenn's designs over their own.
Speaker 2: What do you mean the Smithsonian backed.
Speaker 1: They were just always kind of hyping up Glenn, okay
more than they the right brothers. So the right brothers.
When the Smithsonian came calling for their you know, original plane.
Speaker 2: Like here, it's a piece of American history, we have it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, fuck you did you were like friendly
with Glenn? Yeah, you're all over Glenn's dick and now
come a Colin.
Speaker 2: Oh you want ours? No, because people don't give a
fuck about Glenn, whose name I didn't even know until
right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they won.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they also ultimately won those legal battles but
it came out at the cost of Wilbur's life, and
their public image taken a hit as they were seen
as greedy and in the way of advancements to the
tech much more than their European counterparts. Orville sold the
company to Wright Martin in nineteen sixteen. He made his
last flight as a pilot in nineteen eighteen in a
nineteen eleven Model B. He would go on to be
an Elder Statesman of Aviation and serve on different boards
throughout his golden years. I actually heard.
Speaker 2: A radio interview with him once from the thirties or forties.
He looked to forty eight and uh man, old people
back then sounded fucking old. Yeah, like they were like,
now awful. What was it like when you took light
for the first time? And it's like you would expect
to be like, well, it's like like he's only in
his seventies or sixties.
Speaker 1: Only that in the seventies, he's just like.
Speaker 3: Well, sky, little windy day, Like just like like I
was like, is he in hospice?
Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: Is he currently dying? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like he was just like I remember the parade was paper.
Speaker 2: My brother held it up. It wasn't try on for
day it The pitch of the voice was just like
it sounded like someone was like squeezing his balls, but
like he was in pain. Like he was just like
like it was just so hard to be old back then,
Like there's nothing, like there's there's no advil for him
to take, Like all his bones hurt.
Speaker 1: You make it that long to the forties, Yeah, your
life was hard.
Speaker 2: Just you got you got arthritis from doing bicycle repairs
for thirty years and then building airplanes for another third.
Speaker 1: Like you just he also again crashed killed a guy. Yeah,
uh pretty much almost was handicapped from the accident, had
a bad back for the rest of his life.
Speaker 2: Every Like everything hurts on that man. The only thing
he can do is drink. I get like, I don't know,
go listen to it, like it is truly like every
other guy's like that. Every old guy, I swear to
God is like that. In those videos, there's I saw
another one of like an old farmer being interviewed in
the twenties. He was born in like the eighteen forties
or something like that, and he's like, oh, but he's
like still farming. He's like hoeing a yard as they're
talking to him, his body just is like, please stop,
and he's.
Speaker 3: Just like I terriphone now, I'm so scared.
Speaker 1: Now. One of their distant relevant relatives was actually Howard Hughes.
Oh yeah, so there's a little bit of a connection there.
Wo how distant what And they're credited with, you know,
just kind of inspiring I guess his interest in flight.
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess they inspired everyone's interest in flight, that'so.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But well maybe some are just like not do
the right brothers, fucking frauds, Like I'm all about this.
Speaker 2: French dude'd be like, yeah, I don't know, man, I
just like credit James Naismith with my interest in basketball.
Speaker 1: To me, I don't dude, couldn't even cut a hole
under the peach basket.
Speaker 2: Feels like you should credit him if you like basketball
at all.
Speaker 1: Do you think those were low scoring games you had
to get on the ladder and take.
Speaker 2: The ball incredibly low, even the ones when there was
a hole in it pre shot clock.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a game made for children, rob Yeah,
literally he made it. It was like.
Speaker 2: It was like a high school gym class or something
like that.
Speaker 1: It was just like a bullshit game, and now it's
the top four sport.
Speaker 2: It'd be like if bashball took America, like literally, hole ball,
hole ball.
Speaker 1: So Orville obviously lived through World War Two and got
to see the destruction of his creation brought before him. Well,
one of his creations dropped in atomic bombs, so two
of them. So this is his quote on seeing the
airplane and what damage it caused him World War two.
And you have to say it, I guess, like how
you were talking earlier. Okay, we dared to hope we
had invented something that would bring lasting peace to the earth.
We were wrong. What No, I don't have any regrets
about my part in the invention of the airplane, though
no one could deplore more than I do the destruction
it has caused. I feel about the airplane much the
same as I do in the regard of fire. That is,
I regret all the terrible damage caused by fire, but
I think it is good for the human race that
someone discovered how to start fires, and that we have
learned to put fires to thousands of important uses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happens when you invent something like that.
Like it just it's gonna get used on a hundred
different ways.
Speaker 1: What he was a little sad about it.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was. I think that's yeah, I
think that's just pr I think you just said that shit.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's bullshit. Orville died shortly after in nineteen forty eight,
following a second heart attack. And there's a lot more
that you could kind of dig into with on the
Brothering piece.
Speaker 2: Oh we can fly nout guys. No reason for war anymore, right, sure, Orville.
Speaker 1: But again, this is softcore history. That is our episode
on the right, Brothers. What'd you learn today?
Speaker 2: I learned that fuck the haters. I hate people who
try to be like, well, I hate people try to well,
actually an inventor.
Speaker 1: Okay, fuck that. Sometimes inventors get credit for things they didn't.
Speaker 2: Do, like what I mean, that's probably true.
Speaker 1: But George Washington Carver.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's just bad history. It's just a myth.
It's like, well, he did everything with peanuts. He must
have made peanut butter, just didn't do the bus, didn't
didn't thing to make it into a butter. He had
bigger things. Did everything else with peanuts. Yeah, couldn't nail
down butter. Yeah, but I also I didn't know actually
that Orville right, or no, Wilbur, I'm sorry, was just holding.
Speaker 1: The plane because you're running alongside it. He's running alongside
it and try to like balance it. That is.
Speaker 2: Truly. Like I like to say, my joke about audio
books is like, oh yeah, I read that book, but
you like listen to it. It's like, oh yeah, my
uh my five year old read eight books yesterday. Then
yeah he didn't read anything.
Speaker 1: Somebody read it to you. So, Orville, you didn't fly
that plane. Uh, you didn't fly that He eventually did.
But yeah, cause the first fatal airplane crash, who else
would it be? I mean, at that point there were
other people flying planets.
Speaker 2: I guess, but it should be them. I'm glad they
got them.
Speaker 1: Glad they got the first body.
Speaker 2: Yeah good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's today's hitler?
Speaker 2: Uh boy, that's tough. I don't know the French for doubting,
the French for hating.
Speaker 1: The Right brothers until proven otherwise I'll just see it
with their own eyes.
Speaker 2: Orvil and Wilbur's relationship with their sister.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we should probably dig into that threesome right there.
Speaker 2: There's I'm sure just letters that were burned by the
estate like they were just like I think by the
history here got nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 1: Never married, got pissed off when their sister did marry,
shared bank accounts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people were weird.
Speaker 1: Women were around. But look, you're you're do the red
Brothers do the gay community maybe claim the right brothers
look into it or the a sexual community.
Speaker 2: The a sexual community has a great argument off the BA.
Speaker 1: At no time for women and plans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if the gays want to look into it,
you know it's worth a.
Speaker 1: Worth a look, kind of like Bucannon.
Speaker 2: But also I don't trust the gays. Yeah, they won't
even claim James you canon.
Speaker 1: Come on, that's the president.
Speaker 2: You gotta take them. You gotta take the good and the.
Speaker 1: Bad, worst president of all time. Gay man, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Gotta take everything. Can't just take the good ones? Oh
your history straight to take Hitler? We we know he
was straight, and we take them. We don't want to,
but he's ours.
Speaker 1: We admit he was a straight man. That's our episode
for today. Thanks for tuning in. We love you guys.
Make sure to honestly just check out the bad catalog
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We're year five of doing the show now, so yeah,
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Speaker 2: Keep your money's worth for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're getting episodes like this. You have
sketched one of my favorite sketches we've ever done with Rob.
You said, let's just tie it full circle.
Speaker 2: You said, it's one of your favorite things you've ever
done here or Grandex.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so. It's one of the funniest
things I think we have as a unit. Done with
nineteen thirties Alexander and Jonsensen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, information walls with Alexander Johnsson, information warfare, information warfare,
that's right with Alexander Johnsonson.
Speaker 1: So I think just for that sketch alone, you're gonna
get your five dollars worth. Yeah, I agree. Like I
was pissing my pants laughing, and I usually hate everything
we do because I have to like edit Yeah. You
just hear it here so much that I'm just like,
does this suck? Actually? Yeah, no, this is really talking
about things getting numbed as shit. Yeah. I hate the
sound of my own voice, soft ass bitch. Haven't even
been able.
Speaker 2: To lift last year like project just once?
Speaker 1: Please, No, I think I have a soothing voice. Okay,
I've talked to myself into that.
Speaker 2: You're You're like the male Delilah from the radio, like
late night Sundays. She's on like soft rock channels.
Speaker 4: She's like, welcome back. We've got a caller. She wants
to talk about how much she loves her her child,
and this record for you, Gabby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're bro Delilah.
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Speaker 2: You know, some people hear that and they're like, I
don't want to listen to this set of funk Overmore.
Speaker 1: Well, they've already listened the whole epod the bitches. Yeah true,
we should really trick the people and uh name this
the history of Grandex. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's just that'll
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Speaker 2: It's only sixty seconds for a to count as a listen, Okay,
even if it's fucking five hours long. Sixty seconds, let's
just they count. Let's fool everybody, and we talk about
grand Actually three minutes, so we'll get them in.
Speaker 1: I think like ten. Obviously we'll get them in the door,
so we're not totally lying. Yeah, anyway, for Rob Fowks,
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