WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:03.640 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 2 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:09.000 Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services Ensure 3 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:10.839 your most prized possessions. 4 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:14.560 Hey, goodenough to do it, everybody. Welcome to Eye on 5 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:17.239 the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve 6 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:20.120 Rivera in today with me as a co host Larry Gilman, 7 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:24.640 former sports reporter in Cincinnati Milwaukee. At least that's where 8 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:28.359 you were at, right, Yep, welcome Gilman. You were with 9 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:30.600 me for you talked to you were on the show 10 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:33.600 a bit for the Pete Rose passing, right, you were 11 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:36.960 kind of how you describe the relationship with Pete Rose. 12 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:41.960 Well, it was sort of a combination relationship because I 13 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:45.320 covered him as a sports reporter, but we got to 14 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:46.560 be close friends. 15 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:49.159 At the same time. Oh, at the same time. Oh, 16 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:52.960 that's not a good thing to happen. Well it maybe 17 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:53.640 back then. It was. 18 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:57.079 I was, you know, in my late twenties, and I 19 00:00:57.240 --> 00:00:59.840 was just overwhelmed by the opportunity to get close to 20 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:00.880 the these people I was. 21 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:03.920 You know what I'm saying, Because if you get too close, 22 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:06.239 then it's hard to tell the story. If you get 23 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:08.719 too close, maybe later in life, I agree with you. 24 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:11.879 One hundred percent. But because I was so close is 25 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.159 how I got the story I buy. 26 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:17.359 I guilty you that way. I'm guilty of that too, 27 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:19.280 I get it. Yeah, and you you want to be 28 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:21.239 close but not too close. 29 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:25.079 Right, And I think that quite frankly. I mean I 30 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:29.359 was learning my way in the business. And uh, the 31 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:31.840 fact that a guy like Pete Rose, you know, and 32 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:35.239 what we really did together most of always go to 33 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:35.879 the racetrack. 34 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:38.079 Yeah, he was like the ponies. 35 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:41.319 He liked to gamble on pretty much everything. Yeah, and uh, 36 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:44.319 but yeah, we'd go to the track with his family, 37 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:46.599 and then I'd see him socially and we'd go to 38 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:49.760 sporting events together. And we went to Japan together on 39 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:52.879 a good will trip with the Cincinnati Reds and that 40 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:53.640 was a lot of fun. 41 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:55.879 Do you think he was and I'll hit almost a 42 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:58.760 month since he's passed, right, do you think he was? Miss? 43 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:01.280 I don't know what the word is, not misidentified, but 44 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:04.280 he was beloved back in the day, right, And then 45 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:08.080 he got into the trouble. But was he how can 46 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:12.319 I say? People? Was he polarizing or because I thought 47 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:13.639 the world of him when I was growing up, because 48 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:15.439 the way he played he was a great player, could 49 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:19.759 hit any position he wanted. But at the end, it 50 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:22.520 was like, you know, he's this guy, this figure that 51 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:27.199 was either cranky or you know what I'm saying, Am 52 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:27.680 I wrong? 53 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.400 I know what you're saying. And in terms of my 54 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:35.000 own relationship with him, I was in Cincinnati for three 55 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:37.719 years and he was a player the whole time. A 56 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:40.919 big story back then was, which you know, free agency 57 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:44.719 was relatively new, and Rose was born and raised in Cincinnati, 58 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:46.599 and then he played for the Reds his whole career 59 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:49.039 and then all of a sudden it became clear that 60 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:51.120 there are issues between him and management and he was 61 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:53.759 going to start testing the water ended up going to Philadelphia. 62 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:59.680 But the big story at the time was which city 63 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.319 he would go to and how much money he would 64 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:05.120 make and that kind of thing. Yeah, the controversy came 65 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:07.280 up four or five years after I left, because he 66 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:09.919 had gone to Philadelphia then came back and was a 67 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:13.080 manager of the Reds, right, and that's when he got 68 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.439 in trouble, and I was not with him or part 69 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:19.680 of that aspect of his life. He always loved to gamble, 70 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:24.240 but the kinds of trouble he got himself into over sports. 71 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:29.400 Gambling was something I did not walk through that with 72 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:30.840 him or was never a part of. 73 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:32.680 Right did you? You must have? And we'll talk about 74 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:35.039 your career real quick, because we're don't talk about sports obviously. 75 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:39.439 But you did what you've always wanted to do. You 76 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:41.159 were able to You're like me. I was able to 77 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:43.560 be in sports, and I've done it most of my life, if. 78 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:45.400 Not what I wanted to do since I was a 79 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:48.599 little kid. Yeah, and I grew up in Saint Louis, 80 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:50.520 and I used to take the bus downtown and go 81 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:55.439 to fifty or sixty Cardinals games every summer, and tickets 82 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:57.840 back then take us back then. We're seventy five cents 83 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.360 to get into the cheap seats, but I didn't have 84 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:03.199 to pay it because my father worked with a guy 85 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:05.120 who moonlighted as an usher and he would let me 86 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:08.199 walk through his turnstyle free, so I would get in 87 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:10.240 for free. It was thirty five cents each way to 88 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:11.840 take the Redbird Express. 89 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:14.960 Down town, so seventy cents anyway. Yeah, and so. 90 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:17.160 Yeah, it wasn't a high budget day. 91 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:19.319 Yeah. Nice, So that's cool. You were what ten? 92 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:22.360 I was in probably junior high high school. 93 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:25.480 Yeah, yeah, Okay, So those nice little childhoods watching games 94 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:25.680 like that. 95 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:28.879 Yeah, I've you know, I've always lived in cities where 96 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:31.639 they had big time sports, and I've always been a 97 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:33.439 fan and like being part of it. 98 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:35.680 And now you live in Tucson will have some big 99 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:37.519 time sport, you know, basketball. 100 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:40.240 Well, you know, I'm older now and quite frankly, you know, 101 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:42.720 I do go to the basketball games when I can, 102 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:45.720 and I got when I came here twenty years ago 103 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:49.399 to Tucson, I went and got season tickets for football 104 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:51.360 because that's all I could afford to get on the 105 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:53.439 waiting list do it for basketball. I was when Loot 106 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:57.839 was here, sure, and so. 107 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:59.040 She'd only been here twenty years, so twenty years ago 108 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:04.079 four when Stoops came right, so kind of at the 109 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:07.000 beginning of the end of lout it was twenty years 110 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:10.199 ago because he's been out to about fifteen ish years. 111 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:13.439 Right, right, I lived through all that, and uh and 112 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:17.079 UH wasn't here for the championship. I wasn't here you know, 113 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:17.759 for the mine. 114 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:19.920 That was twenty seven years ago. 115 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:22.680 Well, you know, we're not talking that much longer, but 116 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:24.319 still it was still. 117 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:27.519 Did you meet him because he was he hung around 118 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:29.000 some of the guys you around. 119 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:30.519 Yeah, I met him. I played golf with him a 120 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:33.920 few times and got to know him, and I'm I'm 121 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.920 fairly good friends with his daughter and uh okay, you 122 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:41.879 know there my wife is so yeah so yeah, yeah. 123 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:46.639 In any event, so it was, you know, special. I 124 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.839 remember once I was playing golf with him and he 125 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:52.199 introduced himself to the people in the four somebody he 126 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:54.199 said he was Ludos and I looked at him, and 127 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:56.079 then he took off his hat and all his hair 128 00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:58.720 showed up, and I said, oh, that is because without 129 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:00.160 the hair, I didn't even reckon. 130 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:01.600 How long had you been here? 131 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:03.959 I had only been here a couple of years? Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, 132 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:05.399 ten years. Sure. 133 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:08.399 Sure. And he was a different, different man back then. 134 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:10.879 You know he was because he'd walk in the room 135 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:12.720 and you knew who loul Olson was, right. 136 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:14.279 Well, but that the hair gave it away. 137 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:17.519 Yeah yeah. And the golf course he was dressed differently, right, right, right, 138 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:19.759 all the entire Yeah. No, okay, we'll get back to 139 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:22.279 some remembers. She's in a bit, But talking about racestock, 140 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:25.199 I was at the del Mar last week. It was 141 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:27.319 a bucket. This's item for me and I ran into 142 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:31.040 Bob Baffort and reintroduced myself. Yeah, yeah, caause he'd been 143 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:33.160 on the show before, I know, a billion on some 144 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.560 of the family. So can you come on the show? 145 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:37.439 And he said, yeah, I'm just hoping, he answers his 146 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:39.360 phone because he says, remind me of reminding me. So 147 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:41.399 I reminded him a couple of times. And then you 148 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.800 kind of you've you've kind of started, and you're not started. 149 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:46.839 But you were part of the horse racing industry in 150 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:48.360 a weird way back in the day. 151 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:51.040 Well, when I was growing up in Saint Louis, they 152 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.560 had race tracks in Illinois right across the river, and 153 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.519 that Cahokia downs at Wheremount Park. Yeah yeah, and I 154 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:59.160 would go over there with my friends and you know, 155 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:02.079 we chip in and each split a two dollars show 156 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:03.920 ticket or something like that, you know, whatever it was 157 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:07.959 in our budget paid. I loved I loved it back then. 158 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:11.639 And I mean I wasn't friends with Pete Rose by accident. 159 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.360 We both liked the gamble a little bit, and uh 160 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:16.319 so that was part of my past. And then I 161 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:18.800 started a tip sheet when I was right out of college, 162 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:22.839 when I was twenty two in Maryland and sold the 163 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:25.439 tip sheet at the racetrack there for four weeks. 164 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:25.560 And. 165 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:29.839 I became a stockbroker eventually. But I think the same 166 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:32.399 kind of the same my direct sales experience came from 167 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:37.439 the you know, the racetrack right right, looking at analytics, numbers, right, 168 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:38.199 all things like that. 169 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.720 That's it's right in the same kind of ballpark. 170 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:43.199 Very much so so. And one of the big appeals 171 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:45.560 of sports to me always was the statistics and the 172 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:48.399 numbers and you know, playing with that. So it's it's 173 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:51.439 all sort of got a common thread. But in any event, 174 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:54.920 I've I've been very lucky. As I tell people, I mean, 175 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:58.360 I'm seventy six. It pretty good for seventy six. I was, 176 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.680 maybe so they can't see them the radio, but I'm saying, 177 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:05.000 my eyes must be deceiving me now. But I have 178 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:08.480 always loved sports, and it's it's always been a big part. 179 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:11.079 But I've had jobs that I would have done for free. 180 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:14.639 I mean there's things that were interesting and fun and compelling, and. 181 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:17.639 Well there's sometimes in this business of your TV business 182 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:21.199 and other business mine here in the newspaper, it seems 183 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:22.480 like you are doing it for free. 184 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:24.839 Well that's the reason I got out of the business. 185 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:26.759 I mean I was getting paid, but not enough to 186 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:29.959 support my families. So I became a stockbroker. And that's 187 00:08:29.959 --> 00:08:32.039 why I'm here in Tucson, because I wouldn't have been 188 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:34.080 here if I had just stayed a sports writer. 189 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.120 What did you you twenty years ago? Had you retired? 190 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.080 No, I moved here twenty years ago when my youngest 191 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:43.320 kid went away to college, but I was still working 192 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:45.799 out of my home. As a lot of people started 193 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:50.360 doing then, I was doing it back then and retired 194 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:53.200 about five years ago. So I did the stockbroker and 195 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:56.440 money manager think for about forty years. Oh nice, after 196 00:08:56.519 --> 00:08:57.679 I got out of TV news. 197 00:08:57.799 --> 00:08:59.960 Yeah yeah, nice. Nice. Well great, and you get to 198 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:01.759 do what you always wanted to do, was become a 199 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:07.120 sports castor or in somebody involved in sports. Absolutely the best, biggest, 200 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:10.960 biggest moment, biggest moment of your sports career. 201 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:16.279 Well, i'm working I think the series. I'll remember I 202 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:19.279 just came to Cincinnati in nineteen seventy six, and I 203 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:23.159 was getting paid overtime to cover the World Series, and 204 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:27.639 I was pushing myself constantly because this was the best machine. 205 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:30.960 They were facing the Yankees with Catfish Hunter and all 206 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:34.480 these people, and I was running around. I was supposed 207 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:36.600 to be doing interviews. I was getting autographs. I mean, 208 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:45.320 Johnny Bench and seven close to thirty. But it was 209 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:47.080 just a dream come true. 210 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:50.159 And they were the defending champions after winning seventy five. 211 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.639 I think if you take away the pitching staff, so 212 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:54.559 it was probably as good a team as there's ever 213 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:57.000 been in baseball. If you're just talking about the offense. 214 00:09:57.200 --> 00:10:01.039 Sure with I mean every position was a sure could. 215 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:02.799 You and I can both name those out because. 216 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:04.919 I was a right position position by position? 217 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:05.559 Yeah, yeah, yeah? 218 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:08.279 And iconic basic man, I mean he's a big risk. 219 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:11.120 Right right on the iconic names with Bench and Geronimo 220 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.840 and Rose of course, Paris and those. 221 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:18.440 Guys Foster and Reason and concepts Morgan, Joe Morgan. Yeah, 222 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:19.200 it's unbelievable. 223 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:21.039 Were going to bore people with all this these names. 224 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:23.840 But you know the old people know, yeah no, But 225 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:25.679 let me tell you said, that's who's listening to a 226 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:27.519 bunch of old people. They like this going back in 227 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:30.320 time and talking about the GOODLD days. We'll talk obviously 228 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:34.559 current stuff. Football. You still have your football tickets for the. 229 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:37.840 U of A. Yeah, I don't because I've started going 230 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:39.559 away in the summer and I don't get back to 231 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:44.080 October and the seasons half over. Yeah, but the attention 232 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:44.799 to the team. 233 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:46.960 Yeah, just your quick thoughts on what's going on. 234 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:52.039 Well, I think, uh, you know it. From my point 235 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.360 of view, it seems like when they had you know, 236 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.240 Fish here and and uh, all of a sudden started 237 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.120 winning all these games and getting so much better, there 238 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.879 was this I don't think anyone saw that coming, but 239 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:07.679 everyone really enjoyed it when it happened. And now he's 240 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:10.559 moved on and we're into a different phase and it 241 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:13.759 seems as though they're attracting some really good talent, but 242 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:16.039 they just haven't found a way to put it together yet. 243 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:19.039 Yeah. Well, that's you're being kind to Larry. I'm okay 244 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:22.799 with that. They haven't put together at all. And and 245 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:25.320 you've covered teams, and I've said this before, there seems 246 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:27.360 to be a disconnect between the players and the coaches. 247 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:31.000 New coaches coming in, well the same players or not 248 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:34.000 their players, you know, and there's some kind of disconnect 249 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:37.240 whatever that means to you or to me, But they're 250 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:40.559 just not to me, whether it's playing hard or listening 251 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:44.080 or disciplined or whatever. There's just a lot of things 252 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:46.960 about you know, abc D, there's just so many things. 253 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:50.279 Well, I think that you know, whether it's college or pros, 254 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:57.240 I mean, having the great athletes makes a huge difference. 255 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:01.320 Once he asked Josh Passner when he was you know, 256 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:04.639 how much of a success of a team is recruiting 257 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:06.000 and how much of it is what you do with 258 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:08.080 the players after they get here. Good question, and he 259 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:13.840 said about ninety ten recruiting, and I thought, I. 260 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:14.600 Don't know about that. 261 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:17.759 Well I disagreed with him, but the point was, I mean, 262 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:20.320 but that's what they do. They spend their whole lives 263 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:22.440 just going out and making sure they're trying to get 264 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.080 the best players out there. But I think there's that culture, 265 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:29.000 that chemistry that that team, whatever you want to call it, 266 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.639 that at the end of the day, always seems to 267 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:34.879 be there for teams that have success, and it just 268 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.639 never seems to be there for teams that have great 269 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:39.480 players but don't have that other people. 270 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:42.120 Without question, I told you you've you've covered enough games, 271 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:44.720 and that's why I asked you you've seen it. The 272 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:49.240 best teams don't have the best players. Chemistry huge factor 273 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:51.320 if you throw a little spot, you know, the stew 274 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:54.480 of success, chemistry and talent, but you don't have to 275 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:57.919 have all the coaching. One thing I learned is coaching matters. 276 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:00.519 You have to have that coach who has a not 277 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:02.600 an iron fist, but they respect the hell out of 278 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:03.799 them so they play hard for him. 279 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:05.320 Well, I think we saw it this year in the 280 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.519 in the Baseball playoffs, because a lot of the teams 281 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:11.000 that were supposed to do well and with the high 282 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:14.320 seeds went out early. Teams that went all the way 283 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.799 to the finish seem to have that special chemistry, and 284 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:18.600 particularly the Dodgers, but they. 285 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:20.879 Are also the two of the highest paid teams and 286 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:22.240 some of the best players. 287 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:24.879 But other teams like the Mets and you know that 288 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.279 that weren't supposed to get past the first round, made 289 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:31.799 it deep. 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