WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:13.080 Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the 2 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:18.600 Poker Go Podcast. It is Monday, July thirteenth. My name 3 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:22.120 is Donnie Peters. It is one seventeen am. Got a 4 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:25.359 little bit of pep in my step today. The meds 5 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:29.399 are finally kicking in, still struggling quite a bit. Have 6 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:33.119 spent the large majority of the past forty eight hours 7 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:37.000 either in my bed or on my couch. I will 8 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:39.159 say that the silver lining there is that I have 9 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:43.600 been glued to the coverage from when it starts at 10 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:47.359 twelve noon here in Vegas to when it ends around midnight. 11 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:49.320 I know there's about a one or two hour break 12 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:51.960 in there at some point, but I have had that 13 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:57.159 thing on all minutes, all hours of the past two days, 14 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:59.759 been absolutely glued to it. So that's been the fun 15 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:02.200 side of things, you know. As I said, when I'm 16 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:04.840 out there, I'm not always able to watch, but I 17 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:06.719 try to tune in as much as I can. But 18 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:09.000 being able to watch everything and see it all happen, 19 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:14.079 I mean, there's nothing like the WSP made event. There's 20 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:19.480 absolutely nothing like it. Day seven is in the books. 21 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.040 We're gonna hit on everything that happened on Day six. 22 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:25.599 Run you guys through that. We have a few interviews 23 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:28.120 to play as well. I did stay home today, but 24 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:32.480 my guy Rem Krinkima was down there at Paris getting 25 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:36.439 a few conversations with some of the players in the field. 26 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:39.400 Some really good stuff there that you guys are going 27 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:41.959 to be able to listen to. We were throwing a 28 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:45.000 little bit of a monkey wrench before the start of 29 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:47.560 day seven, so we'll obviously talk about that. If you've 30 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:50.560 been living under a rock, then it'll be news to you. 31 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:53.319 If not, I'm gonna weigh in with my two cents 32 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:56.680 on that, and yeah, that'll be the pod, nice and 33 00:01:57.519 --> 00:01:59.519 focused one around the w is to be made event. 34 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:01.200 I don't really know what the heck is going on 35 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:06.319 elsewhere at the World Series. I only really know because 36 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:09.159 they're kind of checking in on some things every now 37 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:11.599 and then on the coverage, like they checked in on 38 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:14.479 the fifty K Nolan and Holdham winner Jamie Dwan won 39 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:17.919 that one. But I am just so sucked into this 40 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:21.560 main event. It's just absolutely unbelievable, and anything else that's 41 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:24.879 going on around it, I just it's not that I 42 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:29.039 don't care, it's just I'm all of my attention one 43 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:32.360 and fifty percent of my attention is on the WSP 44 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:35.199 main event, as it should be. You know, it's it's 45 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:37.360 great that that everyone else has stuff to play, so 46 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:39.039 of course, you know, you want to take advantage that 47 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:41.439 you get. All these people in town totally get it. 48 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:43.240 It really is just all about the main event. So 49 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:45.879 that's what we're going to be focusing on at some 50 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:48.520 point in the coming days. You know, we do have 51 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:51.240 that big gap between when the final table is reached 52 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:54.599 and then when the final table is played, we'll have 53 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:56.599 some pods in there as well, and we'll wrap up 54 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:58.960 all the all the other winners on how things are going. 55 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:01.280 I'm sure we got to touch on the WASIP Player 56 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:05.560 of the Year race. That race itself is ever changing. 57 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:09.680 I saw on social media today that Iowa Kihara had 58 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:12.360 a cash in an event that allowed him to get 59 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:15.479 some points to move up. I also saw that Dan 60 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.599 and Legrand who had I think he moved up into 61 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:21.439 the top five of the leader board. But that's all great, 62 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:23.639 and there are still tournaments being played. But we also 63 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:26.520 have to consider Sean Deep is still in the main event, right, 64 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:29.639 so it's not like his points are being tallied by 65 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:33.319 how far he's going and he's still alive now entering 66 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.960 day eight, So I think there's around nineteen hundred, maybe 67 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:40.479 two thousand points up top in the WSIP main event 68 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:44.120 alone for the Player of the Year, So that's going 69 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:47.080 to have a lot of weight on things for how 70 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:50.000 that race plays out. So it's kind of it's great 71 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:51.960 to pay attention to it. I love the race, it's awesome, 72 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.280 but it's also kind of hard to actually pin down 73 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:57.199 because we got Sean Deep going into this event. And 74 00:03:57.240 --> 00:03:59.800 if you guys remember when I talked with him way 75 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:01.680 he said, you know, he made a joke like I'm 76 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:03.560 probably gonna get stuck to the mainim me until day 77 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:06.199 six or something like that. Well it's now gonna be 78 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:09.280 day eight, and Shan deeb still, at least on his terms, 79 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:12.280 stuck in the WSP main event. Well, all of us 80 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:14.159 would like to be stuck in the wspre main event 81 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:18.279 on day eight, mister d that's for damn sure. 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So 92 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:02.199 we're gonna have three tables of seven coming back on Monday. 93 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:08.639 Malcolm Trainer, the young Australian poker sensation, is leading the 94 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:13.639 way with sixty three point two million in chips. That 95 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:17.759 is good enough for one hundred and five big blinds. 96 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:22.360 Interestingly enough, the chip leader entering the day also had 97 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:26.319 one hundred and five big blinds. But more on him later. 98 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:30.000 As it pertains to Malcolm Trainor twenty six years old, 99 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.920 he's an Australian player out of Brisbane. He won the 100 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:38.319 twenty twenty four WSP Mystery Millions for one million dollars. 101 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:40.959 Don't know how many bounties he pulled along the way, 102 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:43.560 but of course he definitely added to that one million 103 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.680 dollars score there. In that tournament, he topped a field 104 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:50.360 of eighteen thousand, four hundred and nine entries. That's an 105 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:54.920 absolutely mammoth field. He also won the twenty twenty six 106 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:58.279 Oussie Million's Main Event ten K buying for that one 107 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:02.399 in the Ozzie Million Main Event return It returned in 108 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:06.399 April after I think a six year hiatus. Trainer won 109 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:09.800 that for one million, three hundred and eighty two thousand 110 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:13.120 Australian dollars, which equates to nine hundred and ninety thousand 111 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:17.360 USD a top day field of seven hundred and seventy 112 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:20.279 entries there. When he won that Ozzie Million's Main Event, 113 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:23.839 Poker News was there on site doing live reporting and 114 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:26.279 he spoke with Poker News after and he said, I've 115 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:30.079 dedicated my life to poker the last eight years. People 116 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:33.000 often see the wins, but they don't see the grind 117 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:37.399 and they don't see the losing months. I mean, that's very, 118 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:40.639 very true. You know, it does take a lot to 119 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:44.839 be very good and very successful at poker. Yes, of course, 120 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:47.759 you can just slap it out there and get lucky. 121 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:50.600 That can happen, but also you know, there are plenty 122 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:53.399 of players, as it sounds like Trainer is certainly one 123 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:57.519 of them that put in a lot of time effort, resources, 124 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:01.639 dedication to getting better improving their game. Of course, of 125 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:05.439 course there are different pathways to do that, but it's 126 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:09.839 great to see it all come to fruition. It all 127 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:12.439 be shown. On the other end, with having some success 128 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:14.759 in poker, you know, some of the best players in 129 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:19.000 the world may not have giant wins like Trainer may have. 130 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:21.439 And then on the clip side, you know, some of 131 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:23.639 the worst players in the world might just rip off, 132 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:26.040 you know, a sick heater for six months to a 133 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:28.600 year or whatever it may be. As it pertains to 134 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.360 Malcolm Trainer though everything that I've seen from him, you know, 135 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:33.920 I watched a little bit of him in the twenty 136 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.079 twenty four Wsity Mister Millions tournament when he won that 137 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.879 one at the final table, and then I've watched a 138 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:41.360 lot of him, or at least as much as they 139 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:44.959 have shown of him in this DISIP main event this 140 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:47.759 year in his run, and he seemed like a very 141 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:51.680 very solid player. Yes, there are some fortunate situations that 142 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:54.199 are going his way, but that's just the variance of 143 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:56.839 it all. And you know, you have to play well 144 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:59.560 and then hopefully that variance can just swing your way 145 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:01.680 at some points and you can be, of course the 146 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:04.079 beneficiary of it, but you still have to play really 147 00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:06.319 good solid poker, and he has played really good solid 148 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:11.240 poker the entire time. Something that benefited him earlier to 149 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:13.959 On day seven, he did flop a flush in a 150 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:17.360 raised pot holding the seven to five of spades against 151 00:08:17.399 --> 00:08:20.439 Todd Brunson. I believe it was Todd Brunson opened Malcolm 152 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:23.399 trainor called in late position I think on the button 153 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:27.800 became Queen Jack ate all spades and then fast forward 154 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:30.360 into the river. Trainer was able to get in a 155 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.960 river rays that got paid off by Todd Brunson. There 156 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:37.480 you know one hand that did go Trainer's way in 157 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:40.200 terms of a lot of luck is when he got 158 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:44.399 he got all in with Ton Lee Wang. Trainer had 159 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:48.200 ace five of hearts against Wang's queens. Trainer three bet 160 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:51.360 and then called off to a shorter stacked Wang. He 161 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:54.080 flopped a five did Trainer and turned an ace which 162 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.639 allowed him to bust Wang. In twenty eighth place, he 163 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:01.320 got a lot of good value with two pair against 164 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:05.080 Giuseppe Pantaleo in a spot where he had aces and 165 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:09.000 jacks against an inferior two pair of Panteleeo with Jackson eights, 166 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:11.440 and then there was another spot where he got some 167 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:15.600 decent value in a blind versus blind situation. Antonio Galiana 168 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.440 had King Jack and the small blind trainer had Queen Queen. 169 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:23.240 In the big blind flop was Ace Jack something trainer 170 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:25.919 ended up believe it was. He betflop and then when 171 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:27.720 check check turned and then he called a bet on 172 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:29.840 the river I think is how it went. So he 173 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:32.039 was able to get some value there out of those 174 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:36.600 queens and ultimately has a relatively healthy lead. He has 175 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:40.279 more than twenty million. Then second place and second place 176 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:45.120 belongs to Rameyhamoud out of Canada. So a sizeable lead 177 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.120 here for Malcolm trainor the young superstar again I said 178 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:50.519 he was twenty six years old. You don't see too 179 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:55.000 many young kids these days in poker, and it's great 180 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:55.320 to see. 181 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:55.480 You know. 182 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:57.559 We always talk about that in the US as it 183 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:02.440 pertains to the lack of of online poker being as 184 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:06.960 widely available as it once was. But Australia is very similar. 185 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:10.440 You know that they don't have online poker as widely 186 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:13.799 available as they once did. I believe, at least that's 187 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:17.000 my understanding of how things are now. So someone like 188 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:20.039 Malcolm Traynor, who is able to come up in his 189 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:22.879 younger years, in his younger twenties and have this sort 190 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.279 of success. I think it's you know, it's truly great 191 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:26.960 to see and we'll see where he goes from here. 192 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:30.559 Nothing is given, of course, I know we only have 193 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:33.960 one day left of play until that final table is 194 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.080 reached on Monday. They're going to go from twenty one 195 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:38.440 down to nine. They're going to reach that final table. 196 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:42.720 Of course, Trainer cannot make it. That is you know 197 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:44.759 that that's not been a surprise in the past, that 198 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:48.240 has not happened before. But I would say that given 199 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.799 what we know of him, given the chipley that he has, 200 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:54.120 I would say, you know, he's certainly a favorite, and 201 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.360 I expect him to make it to the final table. 202 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:58.399 And I would even expect him to make it to 203 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:00.559 the final table in a very solid position. 204 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:00.799 You know. 205 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:04.240 See's someone who I think with this chip lead, coupled 206 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:07.000 with the way he's playing, you know, I look at 207 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:09.159 him to make it to the final table in the 208 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:12.200 top let's say, top three sacks. You know, I think 209 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:15.519 that's pretty pretty safe to say right now. But of course, 210 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:17.639 have a long day of poker ahead of us on 211 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:20.120 Monday for these guys to play. So we'll see how 212 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:22.159 it all shakes out for a trainer and the rest 213 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:38.320 of the field. As for the rest of the field, 214 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:41.200 let's just run through the other twenty players who are 215 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:46.399 joining Malcolm trainer on Day eight of the WSLP main event. 216 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:49.799 I mentioned second place in chips Rami Hamoud out of 217 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:52.759 Canada forty one and a half million. Right there, forty 218 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:55.559 one and a half million. Trainers got sixty three point 219 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:59.679 two million. That's the gap between first and second. Entering 220 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:04.039 day eight of the main event. You have Lucas Juliman 221 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:08.279 with forty point eight million. Jumalan is a young player. 222 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:10.320 I think he's like twenty one or twenty two years old. 223 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:13.080 He was talked a lot about on the broadcast. He's 224 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:15.919 got a lot of friends that are out here supporting him. 225 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:16.200 You know. 226 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:19.200 Everyone says that he's put in a lot of work, 227 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:22.080 he's ready for this, he deserves it, like all that 228 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:24.919 sort of stuff. He he played well in a lot 229 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.639 of spots today, hold off a couple of timely bluffs, 230 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:32.120 got some value, you know. So he's absolutely cruising and 231 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:36.879 you can tell that Jumalan is certainly locked in. We'll see, 232 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.240 you know how he goes from here. But he's a 233 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.759 name that I think we need to start getting ourselves 234 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:45.240 acquainted with rather quickly. He's came on to my radar 235 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:48.320 in this WSP main event, and it seems like with 236 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:51.279 the success he's having here, coupled by what we've seen 237 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:54.000 him playing on the felt, he's going to be someone 238 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:56.360 who could you know, this could be the breakout, you 239 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:59.279 know for we see for the Lucas Jumalan a story 240 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:02.600 to come. Eva Goru out of Cyprus thirty eight point 241 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:05.720 two million. He's in fourth place, Will Gibbons behind him 242 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:11.639 thirty one point seven million. Givens was another fun day 243 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:15.120 with Will Gibbons. He did the whole show up late thing. 244 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:18.559 He showed up lade after breaks. At one point during 245 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:21.759 the last level, he just left for a whole bunch 246 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:24.679 of hands like he was missing blinds everything. He did, 247 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:28.519 come back, played a couple hands and then he left 248 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:30.679 early like he didn't wait till I think they might 249 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.679 have announced four hands left or something, and he just bounced. 250 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:37.279 The staff bagged his chips for him. But on the 251 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.840 way out, he did you know. Jeff Platt caught up 252 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.320 with him as a little a little walk out of 253 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:44.519 the out of the Paris ballroom there, and it was 254 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:47.080 I mean, the interview was gold. You guys can go 255 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:49.080 find it on Jeff Platt's Twitter account if you want 256 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:51.320 to listen to it and see the interaction. But the 257 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:53.480 final quote, I just have to read it to you. 258 00:13:53.639 --> 00:13:56.240 I wrote it down because it's just it's awesome. I mean, 259 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:59.720 Jeff asked him out of all the players left, you know, 260 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:02.120 who want to get heads up with, and Will started 261 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:03.840 going into this thing about you know, anyone I give 262 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:06.000 my chips to. If I give you my chips, I 263 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:08.399 want you to be here. And then he said the 264 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:11.200 closing line was, and this is the quote, you know 265 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:14.399 how lions don't eat dead prey because they go for 266 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:17.840 the chase. Let that sink in. There was a grunt 267 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:19.320 in there at one point, I mean the whole I 268 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:21.639 think he just walks off. I mean, it's just you 269 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:24.720 couldn't write better stuff than Will Gibbins has given us. 270 00:14:25.039 --> 00:14:28.919 So that's incredible. I don't know why. I just had 271 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.960 a feeling when I first played that freeze out several 272 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:34.360 weeks ago and he sat down at the table, he 273 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:37.559 started telling the whole story about how he's band Caesar's properties, 274 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:40.120 it's his first time back and so many years and 275 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:42.120 all this sort of thing. I don't know why, but 276 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:45.639 I just had a feeling. Maybe it's just the experience 277 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:47.720 being on the media side in me coming out, but 278 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:49.559 I just had a feeling this guy was gonna make 279 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:52.639 noise this summer. So I had to tell that story. 280 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:54.600 I told it a few different times, got Will tell 281 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:56.960 it as well. And now here he is making day 282 00:14:57.039 --> 00:15:00.320 eight in the final twenty one players of the Wacopa event. 283 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:02.600 Just absolutely wild stuff. And we're in for We're in 284 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:05.120 for a show with Will Gibbons going forward. That's for 285 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:08.519 damn sure. Sean Deep is behind him thirty one point 286 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:13.519 three million. Sean Deep is cruising. I mean, I know 287 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:18.120 he's not the biggest chipstack in the field, but to me, 288 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:22.360 he has to absolutely be one of the favorites. He's 289 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:25.799 been in these sorts of spots so many times. You 290 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:28.600 can tell that the pressure does not get to him 291 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:32.279 one bit. I don't know. I just every time you 292 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:34.879 just looked at Sean Deeb's chip count on the screen, 293 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:38.720 he had a few million more than he did when 294 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:40.320 they last showed him and I know there was some 295 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:43.600 up and downs in there, yes, of course, but ultimately 296 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.840 finished on relatively high here for Sean Deep thirty one 297 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:50.240 point three million, he's you know, towards the top half 298 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:53.799 of the pack here and cruising along. Now, Sean Deep, 299 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:57.039 he's one of the players that Remco spoke to and 300 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:00.759 Remko wanted to ask him about the whole implement implementation 301 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:04.080 of the play cocks right before play and Sean Dee 302 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:06.480 had some interesting takes on it. So let's hear from 303 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:08.360 Sean Dee first and then we'll come back. We'll talk 304 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:10.720 about that situation a little bit more. 305 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:15.799 Sean, the big situation that came out today that there's 306 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:18.799 a clock and stated pre flop, What led to that 307 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:20.200 and what's your response to it. 308 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:22.799 I mean, you know, I've been friends with a lot 309 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:25.720 of the staff and the flour men Worldsai's Europe. A 310 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:28.279 few years ago there was issues with stalling and Andy 311 00:16:28.399 --> 00:16:30.320 was running a tournament. We talked about whether or not 312 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:32.879 to install shot clocks, and you know, I know last 313 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:34.519 year with the casuit there there's been a lot of 314 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:37.200 discussion last few years, like they really have to implement it. 315 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:39.399 It's really unfair, and I saw the post you know, 316 00:16:39.559 --> 00:16:42.120 fifteen minute Tank by Lauren Klein, like, you know, it's 317 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:44.120 so unfair to the other seven tables that that table's 318 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:46.279 playing no hands. We might have played seven hands at 319 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:48.639 the feature table in that time period. So you know, 320 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:50.759 I think the floor made a good decision. I wish, 321 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:53.559 you know, it was a little more. A lot of 322 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:55.080 people never play shot clocks. I think they could have 323 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:57.120 been a better explanation. But luckily for the people at 324 00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:58.960 my table, I'm giving them explanations that I know it's 325 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:01.440 on them, you know, try to make it. But it's 326 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:03.559 obviously I think more people bust this level than they 327 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.720 would have there wasn't shot clock, And I obviously it's 328 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:10.160 better for me personally. I've played a lot with shot clock. 329 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:13.039 I make quick decisions. But yeah, I think it's a 330 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:15.599 necessary evil at this stage of determament because people were 331 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:18.359 too abusive on time. We don't want to go hand 332 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:20.880 for hand or around for round, and so this is 333 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:24.079 the best, you know, solution to the problem at hand. 334 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:26.680 The chaka has been brought up many times in the past, 335 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:28.839 but the argument against it, for the main was always 336 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:32.079 the majority of players are not familiar with that, and 337 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:35.079 they're also recreational, so they might take more time in general. 338 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:36.480 What's your response to that. 339 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:38.519 I think it's the opposite the pros, who take way 340 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:41.559 more time than recreational. Very few recreationals tank. It is 341 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:44.240 way more the pros tank than recreational. So I think, 342 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:46.960 if anything, this is better for the recreationals because the 343 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:49.640 pros can't sit there for seven minutes every turn and 344 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:51.519 figure out do I have one point five X spot 345 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:53.640 or do I you know, hero call this guy? And 346 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:56.559 so I actually think shot clocks are better for REX. 347 00:17:56.880 --> 00:17:59.000 I think that they're going to be more impulsive, they're 348 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:01.200 going to make their decisions quickly. They're not gonna Hollywood 349 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:04.000 as much. And yeah, I think it's way worse for pros. 350 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:05.480 And I also think it's a better experience for the 351 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.920 wreck like people sitting there, you know, people talking to me, like, dude, 352 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:10.519 I watched a hand where it took six minutes for 353 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:12.759 the guy to fucking check the turn, Like It's like 354 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:15.839 people are just went too far on time. So it's 355 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.160 a good solution. I think I'll make better TV. A 356 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:20.039 lot more hands are gonna be played, a lot, a 357 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:22.079 lot more shit's gonna go down, and I'm excited to 358 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:23.599 see how the rest of the main turns out. 359 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:26.319 All right, So that was deep And you heard him 360 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:29.119 there say that he thinks that adding the clocks in 361 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:32.240 like this benefits the recreationals more. I know there's been 362 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:35.279 a lot of debate about that on social media. I know, 363 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:37.799 you know, Nick and Ali talked about it in the 364 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:40.440 booth like it's been talked about pretty much ad nauseum, 365 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:43.039 you know. But I'm going to weigh in here with 366 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:46.359 my side of things. I can make the argument for 367 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:50.440 both sides on who it benefits more, pros or recreationals. 368 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:54.599 I know producer Rich has had this long standing take 369 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:58.359 that the Wsby main event structure is too good and 370 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:01.559 if we want recreational to have a better chance, we 371 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:04.599 need to make their structure worse, to increase the variants 372 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:07.319 a little bit, because that's ultimately better for the recreationals, 373 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:09.480 even if they don't think that that is ultimately better 374 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:12.880 for them. So I do kind of agree with deeb 375 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:16.720 been saying that yes, faster time can increase the variance, 376 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:19.319 which ultimately makes it a little bit better for the recreationals. 377 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.160 Because if the pros have more time, you know, they're 378 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:24.279 going to be able to really put all the pieces 379 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:28.240 of the puzzle together and get things correct. I can 380 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:30.039 also very much agree with the other side of the 381 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.680 argument that says it's better for the pros to have 382 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:36.519 a shorter amount of time because they're used to this 383 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:37.880 sort of thing and they're going to be able to 384 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:41.680 make more efficient decisions in a smaller window of time. 385 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:43.920 Just think about you know, all the pros who are playing, 386 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:46.039 and Sean Deeve was was certainly one of these players, 387 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:48.440 definitely back in the day playing online. But all the 388 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:52.799 players who have played twelve, sixteen, twenty tables at once, 389 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:55.720 maybe more online at a time. Patrick Leonard is one 390 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:57.000 of them. I know we're going to talk about him 391 00:19:57.400 --> 00:19:58.759 in a little bit as well, But you know, all 392 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:02.000 these players who have played endless tables online at once, 393 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:04.799 like they're constantly making super fast decisions over and over again, 394 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.039 and yet is that the absolute best decision that they 395 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:10.240 could make, like in that given moment on one table, 396 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:12.759 Maybe not, because if they maybe had a little bit 397 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:15.680 more time, yes, they could have made a better decision 398 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:17.200 if they were able to think things through and put 399 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:19.079 more pieces of the puzzle together and figure out the 400 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:22.319 problem a little bit more, of course, But if you're 401 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:24.319