Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the
Poker Go Podcast. It is Monday, July thirteenth. My name
is Donnie Peters. It is one seventeen am. Got a
little bit of pep in my step today. The meds
are finally kicking in, still struggling quite a bit. Have
spent the large majority of the past forty eight hours
either in my bed or on my couch. I will
say that the silver lining there is that I have
been glued to the coverage from when it starts at
twelve noon here in Vegas to when it ends around midnight.
I know there's about a one or two hour break
in there at some point, but I have had that
thing on all minutes, all hours of the past two days,
been absolutely glued to it. So that's been the fun
side of things, you know. As I said, when I'm
out there, I'm not always able to watch, but I
try to tune in as much as I can. But
being able to watch everything and see it all happen,
I mean, there's nothing like the WSP made event. There's
absolutely nothing like it. Day seven is in the books.
We're gonna hit on everything that happened on Day six.
Run you guys through that. We have a few interviews
to play as well. I did stay home today, but
my guy Rem Krinkima was down there at Paris getting
a few conversations with some of the players in the field.
Some really good stuff there that you guys are going
to be able to listen to. We were throwing a
little bit of a monkey wrench before the start of
day seven, so we'll obviously talk about that. If you've
been living under a rock, then it'll be news to you.
If not, I'm gonna weigh in with my two cents
on that, and yeah, that'll be the pod, nice and
focused one around the w is to be made event.
I don't really know what the heck is going on
elsewhere at the World Series. I only really know because
they're kind of checking in on some things every now
and then on the coverage, like they checked in on
the fifty K Nolan and Holdham winner Jamie Dwan won
that one. But I am just so sucked into this
main event. It's just absolutely unbelievable, and anything else that's
going on around it, I just it's not that I
don't care, it's just I'm all of my attention one
and fifty percent of my attention is on the WSP
main event, as it should be. You know, it's it's
great that that everyone else has stuff to play, so
of course, you know, you want to take advantage that
you get. All these people in town totally get it.
It really is just all about the main event. So
that's what we're going to be focusing on at some
point in the coming days. You know, we do have
that big gap between when the final table is reached
and then when the final table is played, we'll have
some pods in there as well, and we'll wrap up
all the all the other winners on how things are going.
I'm sure we got to touch on the WASIP Player
of the Year race. That race itself is ever changing.
I saw on social media today that Iowa Kihara had
a cash in an event that allowed him to get
some points to move up. I also saw that Dan
and Legrand who had I think he moved up into
the top five of the leader board. But that's all great,
and there are still tournaments being played. But we also
have to consider Sean Deep is still in the main event, right,
so it's not like his points are being tallied by
how far he's going and he's still alive now entering
day eight, So I think there's around nineteen hundred, maybe
two thousand points up top in the WSIP main event
alone for the Player of the Year, So that's going
to have a lot of weight on things for how
that race plays out. So it's kind of it's great
to pay attention to it. I love the race, it's awesome,
but it's also kind of hard to actually pin down
because we got Sean Deep going into this event. And
if you guys remember when I talked with him way
he said, you know, he made a joke like I'm
probably gonna get stuck to the mainim me until day
six or something like that. Well it's now gonna be
day eight, and Shan deeb still, at least on his terms,
stuck in the WSP main event. Well, all of us
would like to be stuck in the wspre main event
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All right, let's get into it. For Day seven of
the WSP Main Event, sixty two players began well within
the money, deep in it. At the end of it all,
when the dust had settled, twenty one players remain. So
we're gonna have three tables of seven coming back on Monday.
Malcolm Trainer, the young Australian poker sensation, is leading the
way with sixty three point two million in chips. That
is good enough for one hundred and five big blinds.
Interestingly enough, the chip leader entering the day also had
one hundred and five big blinds. But more on him later.
As it pertains to Malcolm Trainor twenty six years old,
he's an Australian player out of Brisbane. He won the
twenty twenty four WSP Mystery Millions for one million dollars.
Don't know how many bounties he pulled along the way,
but of course he definitely added to that one million
dollars score there. In that tournament, he topped a field
of eighteen thousand, four hundred and nine entries. That's an
absolutely mammoth field. He also won the twenty twenty six
Oussie Million's Main Event ten K buying for that one
in the Ozzie Million Main Event return It returned in
April after I think a six year hiatus. Trainer won
that for one million, three hundred and eighty two thousand
Australian dollars, which equates to nine hundred and ninety thousand
USD a top day field of seven hundred and seventy
entries there. When he won that Ozzie Million's Main Event,
Poker News was there on site doing live reporting and
he spoke with Poker News after and he said, I've
dedicated my life to poker the last eight years. People
often see the wins, but they don't see the grind
and they don't see the losing months. I mean, that's very,
very true. You know, it does take a lot to
be very good and very successful at poker. Yes, of course,
you can just slap it out there and get lucky.
That can happen, but also you know, there are plenty
of players, as it sounds like Trainer is certainly one
of them that put in a lot of time effort, resources,
dedication to getting better improving their game. Of course, of
course there are different pathways to do that, but it's
great to see it all come to fruition. It all
be shown. On the other end, with having some success
in poker, you know, some of the best players in
the world may not have giant wins like Trainer may have.
And then on the clip side, you know, some of
the worst players in the world might just rip off,
you know, a sick heater for six months to a
year or whatever it may be. As it pertains to
Malcolm Trainer though everything that I've seen from him, you know,
I watched a little bit of him in the twenty
twenty four Wsity Mister Millions tournament when he won that
one at the final table, and then I've watched a
lot of him, or at least as much as they
have shown of him in this DISIP main event this
year in his run, and he seemed like a very
very solid player. Yes, there are some fortunate situations that
are going his way, but that's just the variance of
it all. And you know, you have to play well
and then hopefully that variance can just swing your way
at some points and you can be, of course the
beneficiary of it, but you still have to play really
good solid poker, and he has played really good solid
poker the entire time. Something that benefited him earlier to
On day seven, he did flop a flush in a
raised pot holding the seven to five of spades against
Todd Brunson. I believe it was Todd Brunson opened Malcolm
trainor called in late position I think on the button
became Queen Jack ate all spades and then fast forward
into the river. Trainer was able to get in a
river rays that got paid off by Todd Brunson. There
you know one hand that did go Trainer's way in
terms of a lot of luck is when he got
he got all in with Ton Lee Wang. Trainer had
ace five of hearts against Wang's queens. Trainer three bet
and then called off to a shorter stacked Wang. He
flopped a five did Trainer and turned an ace which
allowed him to bust Wang. In twenty eighth place, he
got a lot of good value with two pair against
Giuseppe Pantaleo in a spot where he had aces and
jacks against an inferior two pair of Panteleeo with Jackson eights,
and then there was another spot where he got some
decent value in a blind versus blind situation. Antonio Galiana
had King Jack and the small blind trainer had Queen Queen.
In the big blind flop was Ace Jack something trainer
ended up believe it was. He betflop and then when
check check turned and then he called a bet on
the river I think is how it went. So he
was able to get some value there out of those
queens and ultimately has a relatively healthy lead. He has
more than twenty million. Then second place and second place
belongs to Rameyhamoud out of Canada. So a sizeable lead
here for Malcolm trainor the young superstar again I said
he was twenty six years old. You don't see too
many young kids these days in poker, and it's great
to see.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: We always talk about that in the US as it
pertains to the lack of of online poker being as
widely available as it once was. But Australia is very similar.
You know that they don't have online poker as widely
available as they once did. I believe, at least that's
my understanding of how things are now. So someone like
Malcolm Traynor, who is able to come up in his
younger years, in his younger twenties and have this sort
of success. I think it's you know, it's truly great
to see and we'll see where he goes from here.
Nothing is given, of course, I know we only have
one day left of play until that final table is
reached on Monday. They're going to go from twenty one
down to nine. They're going to reach that final table.
Of course, Trainer cannot make it. That is you know
that that's not been a surprise in the past, that
has not happened before. But I would say that given
what we know of him, given the chipley that he has,
I would say, you know, he's certainly a favorite, and
I expect him to make it to the final table.
And I would even expect him to make it to
the final table in a very solid position.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: See's someone who I think with this chip lead, coupled
with the way he's playing, you know, I look at
him to make it to the final table in the
top let's say, top three sacks. You know, I think
that's pretty pretty safe to say right now. But of course,
have a long day of poker ahead of us on
Monday for these guys to play. So we'll see how
it all shakes out for a trainer and the rest
of the field. As for the rest of the field,
let's just run through the other twenty players who are
joining Malcolm trainer on Day eight of the WSLP main event.
I mentioned second place in chips Rami Hamoud out of
Canada forty one and a half million. Right there, forty
one and a half million. Trainers got sixty three point
two million. That's the gap between first and second. Entering
day eight of the main event. You have Lucas Juliman
with forty point eight million. Jumalan is a young player.
I think he's like twenty one or twenty two years old.
He was talked a lot about on the broadcast. He's
got a lot of friends that are out here supporting him.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Everyone says that he's put in a lot of work,
he's ready for this, he deserves it, like all that
sort of stuff. He he played well in a lot
of spots today, hold off a couple of timely bluffs,
got some value, you know. So he's absolutely cruising and
you can tell that Jumalan is certainly locked in. We'll see,
you know how he goes from here. But he's a
name that I think we need to start getting ourselves
acquainted with rather quickly. He's came on to my radar
in this WSP main event, and it seems like with
the success he's having here, coupled by what we've seen
him playing on the felt, he's going to be someone
who could you know, this could be the breakout, you
know for we see for the Lucas Jumalan a story
to come. Eva Goru out of Cyprus thirty eight point
two million. He's in fourth place, Will Gibbons behind him
thirty one point seven million. Givens was another fun day
with Will Gibbons. He did the whole show up late thing.
He showed up lade after breaks. At one point during
the last level, he just left for a whole bunch
of hands like he was missing blinds everything. He did,
come back, played a couple hands and then he left
early like he didn't wait till I think they might
have announced four hands left or something, and he just bounced.
The staff bagged his chips for him. But on the
way out, he did you know. Jeff Platt caught up
with him as a little a little walk out of
the out of the Paris ballroom there, and it was
I mean, the interview was gold. You guys can go
find it on Jeff Platt's Twitter account if you want
to listen to it and see the interaction. But the
final quote, I just have to read it to you.
I wrote it down because it's just it's awesome. I mean,
Jeff asked him out of all the players left, you know,
who want to get heads up with, and Will started
going into this thing about you know, anyone I give
my chips to. If I give you my chips, I
want you to be here. And then he said the
closing line was, and this is the quote, you know
how lions don't eat dead prey because they go for
the chase. Let that sink in. There was a grunt
in there at one point, I mean the whole I
think he just walks off. I mean, it's just you
couldn't write better stuff than Will Gibbins has given us.
So that's incredible. I don't know why. I just had
a feeling when I first played that freeze out several
weeks ago and he sat down at the table, he
started telling the whole story about how he's band Caesar's properties,
it's his first time back and so many years and
all this sort of thing. I don't know why, but
I just had a feeling. Maybe it's just the experience
being on the media side in me coming out, but
I just had a feeling this guy was gonna make
noise this summer. So I had to tell that story.
I told it a few different times, got Will tell
it as well. And now here he is making day
eight in the final twenty one players of the Wacopa event.
Just absolutely wild stuff. And we're in for We're in
for a show with Will Gibbons going forward. That's for
damn sure. Sean Deep is behind him thirty one point
three million. Sean Deep is cruising. I mean, I know
he's not the biggest chipstack in the field, but to me,
he has to absolutely be one of the favorites. He's
been in these sorts of spots so many times. You
can tell that the pressure does not get to him
one bit. I don't know. I just every time you
just looked at Sean Deeb's chip count on the screen,
he had a few million more than he did when
they last showed him and I know there was some
up and downs in there, yes, of course, but ultimately
finished on relatively high here for Sean Deep thirty one
point three million, he's you know, towards the top half
of the pack here and cruising along. Now, Sean Deep,
he's one of the players that Remco spoke to and
Remko wanted to ask him about the whole implement implementation
of the play cocks right before play and Sean Dee
had some interesting takes on it. So let's hear from
Sean Dee first and then we'll come back. We'll talk
about that situation a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Sean, the big situation that came out today that there's
a clock and stated pre flop, What led to that
and what's your response to it.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I've been friends with a lot
of the staff and the flour men Worldsai's Europe. A
few years ago there was issues with stalling and Andy
was running a tournament. We talked about whether or not
to install shot clocks, and you know, I know last
year with the casuit there there's been a lot of
discussion last few years, like they really have to implement it.
It's really unfair, and I saw the post you know,
fifteen minute Tank by Lauren Klein, like, you know, it's
so unfair to the other seven tables that that table's
playing no hands. We might have played seven hands at
the feature table in that time period. So you know,
I think the floor made a good decision. I wish,
you know, it was a little more. A lot of
people never play shot clocks. I think they could have
been a better explanation. But luckily for the people at
my table, I'm giving them explanations that I know it's
on them, you know, try to make it. But it's
obviously I think more people bust this level than they
would have there wasn't shot clock, And I obviously it's
better for me personally. I've played a lot with shot clock.
I make quick decisions. But yeah, I think it's a
necessary evil at this stage of determament because people were
too abusive on time. We don't want to go hand
for hand or around for round, and so this is
the best, you know, solution to the problem at hand.
Speaker 2: The chaka has been brought up many times in the past,
but the argument against it, for the main was always
the majority of players are not familiar with that, and
they're also recreational, so they might take more time in general.
What's your response to that.
Speaker 5: I think it's the opposite the pros, who take way
more time than recreational. Very few recreationals tank. It is
way more the pros tank than recreational. So I think,
if anything, this is better for the recreationals because the
pros can't sit there for seven minutes every turn and
figure out do I have one point five X spot
or do I you know, hero call this guy? And
so I actually think shot clocks are better for REX.
I think that they're going to be more impulsive, they're
going to make their decisions quickly. They're not gonna Hollywood
as much. And yeah, I think it's way worse for pros.
And I also think it's a better experience for the
wreck like people sitting there, you know, people talking to me, like, dude,
I watched a hand where it took six minutes for
the guy to fucking check the turn, Like It's like
people are just went too far on time. So it's
a good solution. I think I'll make better TV. A
lot more hands are gonna be played, a lot, a
lot more shit's gonna go down, and I'm excited to
see how the rest of the main turns out.
Speaker 1: All right, So that was deep And you heard him
there say that he thinks that adding the clocks in
like this benefits the recreationals more. I know there's been
a lot of debate about that on social media. I know,
you know, Nick and Ali talked about it in the
booth like it's been talked about pretty much ad nauseum,
you know. But I'm going to weigh in here with
my side of things. I can make the argument for
both sides on who it benefits more, pros or recreationals.
I know producer Rich has had this long standing take
that the Wsby main event structure is too good and
if we want recreational to have a better chance, we
need to make their structure worse, to increase the variants
a little bit, because that's ultimately better for the recreationals,
even if they don't think that that is ultimately better
for them. So I do kind of agree with deeb
been saying that yes, faster time can increase the variance,
which ultimately makes it a little bit better for the recreationals.
Because if the pros have more time, you know, they're
going to be able to really put all the pieces
of the puzzle together and get things correct. I can
also very much agree with the other side of the
argument that says it's better for the pros to have
a shorter amount of time because they're used to this
sort of thing and they're going to be able to
make more efficient decisions in a smaller window of time.
Just think about you know, all the pros who are playing,
and Sean Deeve was was certainly one of these players,
definitely back in the day playing online. But all the
players who have played twelve, sixteen, twenty tables at once,
maybe more online at a time. Patrick Leonard is one
of them. I know we're going to talk about him
in a little bit as well, But you know, all
these players who have played endless tables online at once,
like they're constantly making super fast decisions over and over again,
and yet is that the absolute best decision that they
could make, like in that given moment on one table,
Maybe not, because if they maybe had a little bit
more time, yes, they could have made a better decision
if they were able to think things through and put
more pieces of the puzzle together and figure out the
problem a little bit more, of course, But if you're
able to come to a very good decision in a
shorter period of time, then someone else who's lesser experienced
in this sort of spot than you and doesn't have
all of that data already working in their brain from
all of the hundreds millions of hands that they've played,
hundreds of thousands and millions of hands that they've played
in the past, then yeah, the pros are going to
be better in this spot too. So I can see
kind of both sides of the argument there. My big
thing is that we've always made conversation about how tournaments
need play clocks like this, and specifically the main event
should have play clocks starting to be put into them.
You know, maybe not from the beigin because the fuel
is just too large, but at some point put them in,
which I think is a fine take to make and have,
and I'm pretty sure that I've made that before many times.
I just have a big problem with implementing it right
before the start of Day seven, in the middle of
the tournament, when this was not planned at all. Now
I believe keV Matt did share on social media that
it isn't the rules that at any time the tournament
staff can opt to put a play clock in if
they if they deem that it's necessary to have one,
or if they want to have one. I get it,
but I mean, it just seems a bit crazy to
do it this way when it's the biggest spot of
everyone's life, and that's recreationals, that's pros, that's everyone in
the tournament. There's so much money on the line, and
you're just changing these rules, Like why because one guy
the day before tanked for fifteen or sixteen minutes? Was
the report that was Lauren Klein on a hand? Well,
I mean one, players can call the clock, right, players
need to call the clock more. And I know it's
hard for players at the specific table because they are
incentivized not to call the clock. They're just because every
other table can can play hands and they can all
lose players and we're just going to sit here and
wait as long as possible. But that's where the tournament
staff needs to step in. At some point it just
becomes way too out of line. And I do think
that when you get down to the later stages of
a tournament of this magnitude, and this is the biggest
tournament in the world, the biggest spot for all of
these players in the world that they will ever have
in their poker lives. You should have a tournament director
for each table. I don't know when that starts. Let's
say that starts with ten tables left. You're then able
to have ten tournament directors. But when there's twenty tables left,
there's still ten tournament directors, and each of them have
two tables to manage, right, And then there's thirty tables left,
each of them and have three tables to manage, whatever
that is, and that number obviously gets smaller and smaller
as you go on. My point is that you need
to like physically be watching this stuff like a hawk,
because you know this has been a problem before. Tanking
and stalling for the paye jumps has been an issue
for as long as I can remember. I remember, heck
years ago, I don't even know the years, like maybe
twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen. I could look it up, but
I'm not going to look it up right now. But
when I was at Pokerings at the time and we
implemented hand for hand coverage from the final three tables,
and I remember one of the tables was playing a
lot slower than the other tables were playing. And so
the tournament staff came to us because they knew that
that we were, you know, covering it hand for hand,
and they asked us to give them a report whenever
we would ask on what hand number each table was on,
and then they would they would see that and they'd
be like, Okay, this table is on hand number thirty,
this table is on hand number forty five. Well, this
one table's playing so much slower than the one. We
need to pause the other tables and a lot of
these other tables to catch up, or maybe we need
to go watch the one table to see what's actually
happening there.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I know at the studio when we get down to
certain number of tables, they're kind of soft hand for
handling it, and they're just they're counting how many hands
are being played at each table, and they're monitoring things,
and they're constantly pausing one table so that another table
can catch up and everything can be played on equal footing.
So we need that level of focus on this tournament
when it's the biggest tournament in the world, So that
would have been the simple fix. Today, you come out
ahead of time. First of all, you speak to all
the tournament directors you know, and you say, hey, listen,
here's what we're going to do today.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 1: You each have these tables to cover and this is
what you're monitoring. And if it gets out of line,
you need to issue warning to the players. You need
to start clogging them right. And then after you have
your talk with your staff, you can say to the
players in the tournament, Okay, everyone, here's the deal. This
is becoming issue. We've noticed it happening. We're not going
to implement a clock, but this is what's happening. Everyone
is going to be on a relatively short short leash.
We understand these are big moments for you and you
need to take your time and you need to think
about things. But if it is deemed that you guys
are abusing the time that is allotted to you, which
is you know, abusing means when you bet ninety nine
percent of your chips you leave it behind, you basically
say that you're Because there has been times and they
shown it on a stream where they've been like, you
know what, I'm just going to tank for the pay jump.
But I'm probably calling like they'll say stuff like that
the players. I've been at tables when people have said that,
I get it, these are big pay jumps. But if
you're openly saying that, and you're you're betting the large
majority of your chips and then you should be calling
like that, that's that's abuse of the situation, okay, and
the tournament staff should stay on top of that, and
then you don't need to abruptly put this clock into play,
which in a lot of ways changes the dynamics of
the whole tournament. It's very weird that a decision like
this would be made on day seven, or entering day
seven of the biggest tournament in the world. I do
think that clocks need to be implemented in this tournament
at some stage because of the tanking and the stalling
that starts to happen. Yes, but doing it this way
just I don't think sits right with me, and I
don't think sits right with a lot of people. As
you saw from the response on social media that said
looks like things made it through the day. I guess
unscathed because there wasn't a big issue that I could tell.
I mean, I don't know if this means that next
year we're for sure getting the clocks on day seven
or maybe even sooner, but I would guess that the
answer is yes. I just would have done it a
different way. As always, if you guys have any thoughts
out there and you want to hit me up directly
about them, you guys can hit me up on social media.
You can also send your emails into podcasts at pokro
dot com and I can see what you guys happened
to say. Hosting. Enson also bagged chips for Day eight.
This run is becoming absolutely freaking incredible because he won
this tournament in twenty nineteen and now he's in the
final twenty one and he looks strong, he looks cool,
he looks calm, he looks collected, he's playing his game.
He looks awesome. I'm sure when you've had experience, I mean,
when you've had experience, many people have said it, when
you've had experience going deep in this tournament before, you
then know how to do things the next time around.
It just really really helps you. When you've gone on
to win it before, I mean, must feel like a
freaking superpower out there, honestly, and hosting Enson is just
absolutely doing the damn thing. If he's able to win
this one, I mean, it has to be the greatest
feat in the modern era.
Speaker 4: It just has to be.
Speaker 1: I would put it ahead of Michael Mazra what he
did last year, and that's winning the fifty k and
then winning the main event. If if Entson's able to
win two WSP main events, don't I don't know what
the field size was in twenty nineteen, it was probably
around eight or nine thousand whatever, you know, just a
giant field. You're playing for whatever, how many, nine, ten
days or whatever of actual poker across two weeks. And
to be able to do that twice in this era,
with how hard this tournament is, that's just wild shit, man, unbelievable.
Thomas Klack from the UK he also backtips played very well.
Pretty crazy stat here about Thomas Klack. He finished second
in I think it was twenty twenty five in a
tournament in the UK, a two hundred pound buy in
the Grosvenner Goliath the tournament and he won two hundred
pound buy him. Okay, guys, he won two hundred and
seventeen thousand pounds. That's two hundred and ninety two thousand dollars.
The field size was twelve nine hundred sixty one entries.
I mean, holy hell. Antonio Galliana is still in Mario
Boss Han Feng, Daniel Stavas, Michael Gaggliano Gags a longtime
pro strong online player, a ton of experience out of
New Jersey. He is a bracelet winner. From twenty sixteen,
he won the twenty five hundred dollars no limit hold
him for four hundred and forty eight thousand dollars. Jamie
Schevell also a player out of the US. Now this
is a wild stat. Shavel has cashed in the WSB
Main Event eight times now eight times. Listen to this.
Two thousand and nine he finished in three hundred and
fifth place. Twenty eleven, he got one hundredth In twenty twelve,
he got three hundred and seventy six. In twenty sixteen,
he got two hundred and fifty ninth. In twenty seventeen,
he got four hundred and fifteenth. In twenty twenty two
he got six hundred and thirtieth, and then in twenty
twenty four he got thirteen hundred and tenth so eight
w Soupete main event cashes for Jamie Chevelle, and this
is of course his best one to date. But that
is an absolutely incredible line of results in this tournament.
Just wild stuff there from Jamie Chevelle. Romaine Lewis still
left an established French pro bracelet winner. In twenty twenty one,
he won the ten K Super Turbo Bounty for four
hundred and sixty three thousand dollars. Lori Saskillatti, I butchered
that last name. I'm sorry. Finished player fifteen point six
million in today eight. Brock Wilson. We've talked about mister Wilson,
how it wasn't the best summer for him after a
great start to the year, but he's doing the damn
thing here. Brock Wilson had a pretty crazy day. At
one point he got it all in against the gentleman
that I just mentioned, Sascalotti. They got it all in
on the turn of a king high board. Believe it
was King three deuce six. Brock Wilson had King Queen,
Sascalotti had Ace three and I was bluffing and he
hit an ace on the river that knocked brock Wilson
down quite short, but then brock Wilson was able to
spin it back a little bit and put thirteen point
six million chips in the back. So that's twenty about
twenty two and a half big blinds. Entering to day eighth,
Greg Mueller mister FBT himself still alive and he spoke
with Remco Renkima during play today. And this is one
of the realist conversations that you're going to hear, because
you know, not a lot of people are able to
admit that they might have been losing motivation, they might
have been losing the passion for the game. But Greg
Mueller not only admitted that, he said, you know what,
I'm going to do something about it. I'm gonna buckle
down it and I'm gonna get serious for this Dipesope
main event. So here's the conversation that Greg Mueller had
with Remco.
Speaker 2: Greg, we talked on the bubble and what you said
surprised me. Where you said, you know, I lost the fire,
I didn't really want to be here, and then you
to commitment to yourself to go and try in the
main event. We're a few days later, now, like, what
has that experience been like.
Speaker 4: It's been amazing and a big part of it. Obviously,
my goal is to win the main event. Next goal
is to get to the final table. But regardless of
what happens, I can. I can be proud of myself
because I you know, I started doubting myself because of
the lack of effort and lost enthusiasm I had for
the game. And when you don't enjoy something, it's very
difficult to be good at. And you know, like I said,
conversation with a couple of good buddies and they're like,
what are you doing here? Then you know, and it
made me realize, don't come if you're not gonna try. So,
you know what, Okay, the main it's not over. I'm
gonna go for it in the main. And I would
say based on my focus, my time, my composure, my success,
I've been all in once for my tournament life and
I'm gonna walk away no matter what I finish, knowing
that I can still play the game of poker. And yeah,
it's that that makes me proud, regardless.
Speaker 2: Of what I do. When you say out loud that
you lost the fire, what are the thoughts that come
to mind as to how that happens or what that means.
Speaker 4: I just just you know, I need stimulation and I
sitting in a chair for twelve hours and getting older
doesn't do it for me. I'm active, I like to move,
I like to work out. I like to go out
with friends. I like the golf, I like to play hockey.
And when you're playing poker, you're making the commitment to
sit on a chair for twelve hours and causes weight gain,
it causes bad eating habits. It's it's all things that
I don't like, and so and truthfully, you know, you
got to study a lot to be good, hone your craft,
and I'm on the golf course, I'm not studying, and
so you know, people are are solving the game and
it's frustrating too. So it's a combination of all these things.
And you know these this these last week, I've been
intensively chatting with Bucky, my my good friend, and we
go over hams all the time. We're discussing. So I'm
learning the gto part to go with my natural poker abilities,
my live reads, my instincts, and like I said, I'm
enjoying it and I'm trying. And when that combination hits
I'm it's proving that I still got it.
Speaker 2: Did you have to remind yourself? Like, hey, I'm Greg Mueller,
I know how I know how this works.
Speaker 4: Hundred I I you know, I kind of lost my
identity in the poker world, so to say, because I
just had that attitude of not wanting to be there.
And like I said, whether whether you're an actor, an athlete,
a pizza driver, a painter, a musician, if you don't
enjoy what you're doing, you're not gonna be good. And
it just kind of came. It actually got a bit
heated with a buddy and I where he was giving
me some tough love and said, hey, FBT, like, if
you don't want to be here, then fly home, but
stop putting in these half efforts and burning money and
go and leaving and you know, and so like I said,
it's uh, yeah, I'm thrilled to be where I'm at.
My next goal is to to get through the day
and then and then make the final table, and then
I'll fly home. My trainer's gonna move in with me
for two and a half weeks. I'm gonna drop a
quick twenty LB's and come hungry for the final table,
and I mean hungry.
Speaker 1: You love to hear that from Greg Mueller. There very
much seems in tune with where he stands in this
whole thing, very much in tune with himself. And now
the next goal is to make the final table, and
we'll see if he can do it. Dylan Smith still
alive as well, one of the shorter stacks. These are
the shorter stacks now that we're talking about. Dylan Smith
won the twenty twenty four WPT Seminal Hard Rock Rock
and Roll Poker Open for six hundred and sixty two
thousand dollars. He want to bracelet this summer. Earlier this
summer twenty twenty six dos a p twenty five hundred
dollars mixed Big Bet for one hundred and eighty two k.
Dylan Smith certainly one of the best all around players
in the world. You can definitely tell from the way
he's playing this main event that he values his tournament
life to the utmost superiority. And it's likely because at
least this is my guess, is that he thinks he
has an edge over the field, which I mean, maybe
not every single player in the field, but I think
out of all the twenty one players remaining, and for
much of the day, of course, there was more than
twenty one players remaining, but during this day, on Day seven,
I would say that Dylan is in the upper the
upper portion, you know, a small little win let's say
five or ten percent of top skillful players left in
the field. So that said, he doesn't really need to
increase the variants. In fact, he's trying to lower the
variants as much as possible so he's able to apply
his skill across a greater stretch of hands, across every
single street. You know, there were some spots where you
could argued that he could have easily just moved all in,
but he opted to take a more conservative route to things,
and ultimately it's worked out because you know, Dylan hasn't
had the biggest stack all throughout this tournament, but he
is moving on to day eight. Todd Brunson is also
still remaining. He's the second shortest stack heading to day eight,
and then we have Tolga Karakaya out of Germany is
bringing up the rear with three million in chips. That's
going to be I think five big lines entering a
day eight. So that's that's the final twenty one players.
Really good group of players, a very strong group of players,
a lot of you know, a lot of big names
in here, some top pro some really skillful players, cool stories.
Speaker 3: In the mix.
Speaker 1: I think we're in We're in store for a very
very fun final table. Really, no matter how this shakes out,
it's been a lot of fun to track these players
all throughout, and we got one more day to get
down to that final table of nine. I mentioned there
were sixty two players that came in to Day seven.
A handful of those that were eliminated were Kongya Zang
sixty first place for her, she was the last woman standing.
Ralph Perry, he called it off incorrectly on a hero call.
He really went for it, but ultimately didn't work out
for him. He had he had a pair in his hand,
he had a pair of eights and what it was
like third pair on board or something, but he ran
into his opponent's set. He busted in forty fourth place.
We lost Jacob Thibodeau and Kay Lautenbacher forty third for Thibodeau.
Lautenbaker got forty second. Two guys I've played quite a
bit with around town here in Las Vegas. Both of
them are on the younger side. Both of them are
very solid. I would expect to see much more from
them in the future. We also lost start of day
chip leader Tyler Gaston in thirty seventh place. We lost
Patrick Leonard in thirty seconds. Patrick Leonard Son, I know
he didn't make it through the day. There was a
lot of love from Patrick Leonard. I'm a big PADS fan.
I've talked about him many times on this podcast. Love
what he stands for, love the grind, love his passion
for poker. I love it all when it comes to
Patrick Leonard. I know a lot of people out there
were rooting for PADS. Ultimately, he did fall short. He
lost a big flip. But you know, what are you
gonna do when it's all said and done. But I
do want to play this interview that this interview that
Patrick did with Remco came before he busts it out,
so you know, I do, but I do want to
play it for you guys anyway, you know, before we
ultimately say goodbye. Here to Patrick Leonard from the wasb
min event. So here is Patrick Leonard talking to Remco
on day seven.
Speaker 2: We talked yesterday, and you mentioned that this is more
about soaking in and enjoying the experience than it is
about celebrating the wind. Potentially, Yeah, twenty years from now,
if you were to watch back this video or think
back of this experience, what would you hope to remember?
Speaker 3: Probably just having fun. I think every hand there's something
fun about it. It's like something interesting about it, something quirky.
It's been a very intense day because there's shot clocks
and the four hands into the day. I use all
of my time banks, so I have to make every decision. Well,
I had to make every decision within twenty seconds basically,
So I'm playing basically blinds of like twenty five fifty
thousand dollars, which is obviously high stakes than anywhere else
which is running in the world right now. So I'm
doing it with twenty seconds at a time. So in
between hands, instead of necessarily having so much fun, I've
tried to, like, what would I do if this happens?
Speaker 1: This happens?
Speaker 3: This happens because brain solving with emotion, brain solving when
you're tired after seven days is quite tough. It's quite
funny because online you actually have like fifteen secons and
you have other tables, so people like, what are you
talking about? But I just haven't played quite these stakes before,
so it's gone a little bit less from having fun
and then a little bit more from intensity. And at
this stage, I think people expected it to be like
fifty people left and there's thirty two because the shot
clocks have just made it play like three times as
many hands. So yeah, just trying to.
Speaker 5: Work around that.
Speaker 2: Basically, does the intensity and pressure come from your current
situation being shorter, or does it also come from the moment.
Speaker 3: It comes from other people as well. I feel like
if I think energy is like energy comes from other people.
You know, if if a guy at the table starts
being like a jerk, everyone else will kind of like
hide away kind of thing where you have like a
really nice guy who social whatever, everyone else just kind
of like comes out their shell too. So everyone's stacks
are swinging up and down and people are losing, you know,
like millions of dollars in EV or winning millions of
dollars in EV. So you're just trying to feed up
other people's energy. Like I don't want to necessarily crack
a joke with a guy who's just lost like three
million dollars in ev But if a guy next to me,
he's just one, you know, a big part, I'll give
them a litle fish one under the table. So it's
a yes. It was very laid back, chilled. Today is
very intense.
Speaker 2: I would say, do you think you're one of the
few left aware of how big this moment is?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I don't think it's lost
on anybody. I think everyone's everyone seems to be really
soaked in. There has been a few spots where like
people are just like, let's say, gambled quote unquote. But
it's not necessarily the worst thing to do to gamble. Now,
you know, the pay rumps from two sixty five to
three twenty five is a lot. It's you know, over
fifty thousand dollars, but first place is ten million and
we're not that far from it now we're like last
three and a half tables, so you have to get
one table down and h Yeah, playing for the win
isn't necessarily the worst thing. Especially with the shot clock
and intensity, you can kind of take an advantage of
a big stack.
Speaker 2: So yeah, final question, what does it take if you
still need to do stuff to get to that point,
to walk away feeling proud of your your accomplishment and
your performance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never really feel pride, to be honest, after
a tournament. It's usually you always remember the hands you
played bad or you could have done something different, rather
than the hands you played well. So it's not usually
an emotion I have. But I'm not sure I'm imagining.
I try to always plan for different scenarios so that
I don't get too overwhelmed one way or another, too
happy two side, And yeah, I'm kind of prepared to
go out as the next player, but I'm not trying to.
I basically, you just don't want to try to play
day seven waiting for Day eight tomorrow. I want to
play at the moment right now and try to get
as many chips as like I'm listening.
Speaker 1: So that was Pad's great run for him, great score
of course. Now I'm sure he's gonna turn his attention
to watching his home country of England to try and
bring it home in the world. Cuppie Pantaleo another player
who I've played quite a bit with around town. He
busted in twenty fifth place. Fun little note about Giuseppe.
So I'm in the Poker Steak Giant group, theed where
we all have to post our receipts and stuff to
settle all the steak in arrangements that we do on
poker Steak. After he busted, Giseppe posted that he hopped
into three k PLO six max I think or whatever
that three k plo tournament is that that started at
the World Series today. All the respect to him, because
there's no way in hell I'd be able to do that.
After busting this deep in the WSITP main event and
then we lost Jaulu in twenty second place. He was
the last player to bust on the day. He was
once over forty million. I'm not sure if he touched
fifty million or not, but he had a bowload of
chips and then all of a sudden he just collapsed,
like started just losing all these different pots. He paid
off a big bet to Jue Milan kind of late
in the night when Jumalan had a Broadway straight and
Lou just had a pair of bases, so that was
a big loss, and then ultimately busted after that and
he was out the door in twenty second place. So
that leaves us with twenty one players left in the
World Series of Poker Main Event. They are all headed
to Day eight on Monday. They are all guaranteed three
hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. The next pay jump
will be when there are seventeen players left. Those seventeen
players will get four hundred and ten thousand dollars and
then we will go from there. The goal is The
goal is on Monday to reach the twenty twenty six
WSP Main Event Final table, the final table for the
greatest poker tournament in the world. The final nine are
all guaranteed. Once they get there, they will all be
guaranteed one million dollars with a giant a massive shout out,
massive ten million dollars up top. I mean, this has
been freaking awesome to watch from start to finish. I
will be watching as much as I can on Monday,
and of course be watching the final table as always.
You guys need to tune in to the coverage because
it is blockbuster out there. I can't wait to see it. Shawnde,
Will Givens and so on doing the thing. We got
the young, the young, an up and coming Aussie Malcolm
trainor I mean, it's just it's so cool to see
all of this come together and I can't wait to
see how it all unfolds and what the final nine
bring for us.
Speaker 4: But that's it.
Speaker 1: That's the pod. As always, thank you very much for listening.
Shout out to producer Rich. My name is Donnie Peters
and I will talk to you guys next time.
Speaker 3: Jenny