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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. It is Monday, July thirteenth. My name

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is Donnie Peters. It is one seventeen am. Got a

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little bit of pep in my step today. The meds

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are finally kicking in, still struggling quite a bit. Have

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spent the large majority of the past forty eight hours

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either in my bed or on my couch. I will

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say that the silver lining there is that I have

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been glued to the coverage from when it starts at

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twelve noon here in Vegas to when it ends around midnight.

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I know there's about a one or two hour break

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in there at some point, but I have had that

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thing on all minutes, all hours of the past two days,

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been absolutely glued to it. So that's been the fun

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side of things, you know. As I said, when I'm

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out there, I'm not always able to watch, but I

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try to tune in as much as I can. But

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being able to watch everything and see it all happen,

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I mean, there's nothing like the WSP made event. There's

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absolutely nothing like it. Day seven is in the books.

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We're gonna hit on everything that happened on Day six.

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Run you guys through that. We have a few interviews

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to play as well. I did stay home today, but

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my guy Rem Krinkima was down there at Paris getting

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a few conversations with some of the players in the field.

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Some really good stuff there that you guys are going

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to be able to listen to. We were throwing a

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little bit of a monkey wrench before the start of

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day seven, so we'll obviously talk about that. If you've

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been living under a rock, then it'll be news to you.

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If not, I'm gonna weigh in with my two cents

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on that, and yeah, that'll be the pod, nice and

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focused one around the w is to be made event.

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I don't really know what the heck is going on

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elsewhere at the World Series. I only really know because

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they're kind of checking in on some things every now

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and then on the coverage, like they checked in on

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the fifty K Nolan and Holdham winner Jamie Dwan won

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that one. But I am just so sucked into this

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main event. It's just absolutely unbelievable, and anything else that's

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going on around it, I just it's not that I

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don't care, it's just I'm all of my attention one

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and fifty percent of my attention is on the WSP

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main event, as it should be. You know, it's it's

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great that that everyone else has stuff to play, so

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of course, you know, you want to take advantage that

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you get. All these people in town totally get it.

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It really is just all about the main event. So

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that's what we're going to be focusing on at some

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point in the coming days. You know, we do have

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that big gap between when the final table is reached

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and then when the final table is played, we'll have

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some pods in there as well, and we'll wrap up

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all the all the other winners on how things are going.

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I'm sure we got to touch on the WASIP Player

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of the Year race. That race itself is ever changing.

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I saw on social media today that Iowa Kihara had

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a cash in an event that allowed him to get

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some points to move up. I also saw that Dan

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and Legrand who had I think he moved up into

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the top five of the leader board. But that's all great,

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and there are still tournaments being played. But we also

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have to consider Sean Deep is still in the main event, right,

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so it's not like his points are being tallied by

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how far he's going and he's still alive now entering

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day eight, So I think there's around nineteen hundred, maybe

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two thousand points up top in the WSIP main event

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alone for the Player of the Year, So that's going

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to have a lot of weight on things for how

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that race plays out. So it's kind of it's great

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to pay attention to it. I love the race, it's awesome,

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but it's also kind of hard to actually pin down

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because we got Sean Deep going into this event. And

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if you guys remember when I talked with him way

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he said, you know, he made a joke like I'm

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probably gonna get stuck to the mainim me until day

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six or something like that. Well it's now gonna be

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day eight, and Shan deeb still, at least on his terms,

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stuck in the WSP main event. Well, all of us

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would like to be stuck in the wspre main event

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All right, let's get into it. For Day seven of

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the WSP Main Event, sixty two players began well within

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the money, deep in it. At the end of it all,

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when the dust had settled, twenty one players remain. So

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we're gonna have three tables of seven coming back on Monday.

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Malcolm Trainer, the young Australian poker sensation, is leading the

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way with sixty three point two million in chips. That

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is good enough for one hundred and five big blinds.

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Interestingly enough, the chip leader entering the day also had

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one hundred and five big blinds. But more on him later.

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As it pertains to Malcolm Trainor twenty six years old,

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he's an Australian player out of Brisbane. He won the

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twenty twenty four WSP Mystery Millions for one million dollars.

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Don't know how many bounties he pulled along the way,

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but of course he definitely added to that one million

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dollars score there. In that tournament, he topped a field

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of eighteen thousand, four hundred and nine entries. That's an

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absolutely mammoth field. He also won the twenty twenty six

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Oussie Million's Main Event ten K buying for that one

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in the Ozzie Million Main Event return It returned in

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April after I think a six year hiatus. Trainer won

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that for one million, three hundred and eighty two thousand

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Australian dollars, which equates to nine hundred and ninety thousand

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USD a top day field of seven hundred and seventy

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entries there. When he won that Ozzie Million's Main Event,

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Poker News was there on site doing live reporting and

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he spoke with Poker News after and he said, I've

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dedicated my life to poker the last eight years. People

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often see the wins, but they don't see the grind

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and they don't see the losing months. I mean, that's very,

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very true. You know, it does take a lot to

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be very good and very successful at poker. Yes, of course,

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you can just slap it out there and get lucky.

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That can happen, but also you know, there are plenty

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of players, as it sounds like Trainer is certainly one

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of them that put in a lot of time effort, resources,

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dedication to getting better improving their game. Of course, of

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course there are different pathways to do that, but it's

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great to see it all come to fruition. It all

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be shown. On the other end, with having some success

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in poker, you know, some of the best players in

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the world may not have giant wins like Trainer may have.

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And then on the clip side, you know, some of

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the worst players in the world might just rip off,

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you know, a sick heater for six months to a

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year or whatever it may be. As it pertains to

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Malcolm Trainer though everything that I've seen from him, you know,

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I watched a little bit of him in the twenty

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twenty four Wsity Mister Millions tournament when he won that

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one at the final table, and then I've watched a

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lot of him, or at least as much as they

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have shown of him in this DISIP main event this

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year in his run, and he seemed like a very

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very solid player. Yes, there are some fortunate situations that

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are going his way, but that's just the variance of

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it all. And you know, you have to play well

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and then hopefully that variance can just swing your way

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at some points and you can be, of course the

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beneficiary of it, but you still have to play really

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good solid poker, and he has played really good solid

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poker the entire time. Something that benefited him earlier to

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On day seven, he did flop a flush in a

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raised pot holding the seven to five of spades against

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Todd Brunson. I believe it was Todd Brunson opened Malcolm

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trainor called in late position I think on the button

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became Queen Jack ate all spades and then fast forward

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into the river. Trainer was able to get in a

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river rays that got paid off by Todd Brunson. There

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you know one hand that did go Trainer's way in

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terms of a lot of luck is when he got

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he got all in with Ton Lee Wang. Trainer had

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ace five of hearts against Wang's queens. Trainer three bet

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and then called off to a shorter stacked Wang. He

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flopped a five did Trainer and turned an ace which

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allowed him to bust Wang. In twenty eighth place, he

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got a lot of good value with two pair against

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Giuseppe Pantaleo in a spot where he had aces and

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jacks against an inferior two pair of Panteleeo with Jackson eights,

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and then there was another spot where he got some

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decent value in a blind versus blind situation. Antonio Galiana

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had King Jack and the small blind trainer had Queen Queen.

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In the big blind flop was Ace Jack something trainer

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ended up believe it was. He betflop and then when

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check check turned and then he called a bet on

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the river I think is how it went. So he

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was able to get some value there out of those

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queens and ultimately has a relatively healthy lead. He has

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more than twenty million. Then second place and second place

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belongs to Rameyhamoud out of Canada. So a sizeable lead

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here for Malcolm trainor the young superstar again I said

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he was twenty six years old. You don't see too

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many young kids these days in poker, and it's great

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: We always talk about that in the US as it

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pertains to the lack of of online poker being as

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widely available as it once was. But Australia is very similar.

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available as they once did. I believe, at least that's

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my understanding of how things are now. So someone like

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Malcolm Traynor, who is able to come up in his

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younger years, in his younger twenties and have this sort

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of success. I think it's you know, it's truly great

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to see and we'll see where he goes from here.

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Nothing is given, of course, I know we only have

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one day left of play until that final table is

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reached on Monday. They're going to go from twenty one

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down to nine. They're going to reach that final table.

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Of course, Trainer cannot make it. That is you know

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that that's not been a surprise in the past, that

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has not happened before. But I would say that given

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what we know of him, given the chipley that he has,

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I would say, you know, he's certainly a favorite, and

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I expect him to make it to the final table.

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the final table in a very solid position.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: See's someone who I think with this chip lead, coupled

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with the way he's playing, you know, I look at

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him to make it to the final table in the

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top let's say, top three sacks. You know, I think

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that's pretty pretty safe to say right now. But of course,

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have a long day of poker ahead of us on

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Monday for these guys to play. So we'll see how

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it all shakes out for a trainer and the rest

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of the field. As for the rest of the field,

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let's just run through the other twenty players who are

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joining Malcolm trainer on Day eight of the WSLP main event.

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I mentioned second place in chips Rami Hamoud out of

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Canada forty one and a half million. Right there, forty

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one and a half million. Trainers got sixty three point

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two million. That's the gap between first and second. Entering

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day eight of the main event. You have Lucas Juliman

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with forty point eight million. Jumalan is a young player.

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I think he's like twenty one or twenty two years old.

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He was talked a lot about on the broadcast. He's

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got a lot of friends that are out here supporting him.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Everyone says that he's put in a lot of work,

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he's ready for this, he deserves it, like all that

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sort of stuff. He he played well in a lot

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of spots today, hold off a couple of timely bluffs,

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got some value, you know. So he's absolutely cruising and

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you can tell that Jumalan is certainly locked in. We'll see,

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you know how he goes from here. But he's a

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name that I think we need to start getting ourselves

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acquainted with rather quickly. He's came on to my radar

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in this WSP main event, and it seems like with

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the success he's having here, coupled by what we've seen

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him playing on the felt, he's going to be someone

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who could you know, this could be the breakout, you

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know for we see for the Lucas Jumalan a story

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to come. Eva Goru out of Cyprus thirty eight point

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two million. He's in fourth place, Will Gibbons behind him

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thirty one point seven million. Givens was another fun day

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with Will Gibbons. He did the whole show up late thing.

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He showed up lade after breaks. At one point during

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the last level, he just left for a whole bunch

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of hands like he was missing blinds everything. He did,

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come back, played a couple hands and then he left

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early like he didn't wait till I think they might

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have announced four hands left or something, and he just bounced.

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The staff bagged his chips for him. But on the

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way out, he did you know. Jeff Platt caught up

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with him as a little a little walk out of

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the out of the Paris ballroom there, and it was

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I mean, the interview was gold. You guys can go

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find it on Jeff Platt's Twitter account if you want

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to listen to it and see the interaction. But the

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final quote, I just have to read it to you.

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I wrote it down because it's just it's awesome. I mean,

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Jeff asked him out of all the players left, you know,

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who want to get heads up with, and Will started

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going into this thing about you know, anyone I give

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my chips to. If I give you my chips, I

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want you to be here. And then he said the

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closing line was, and this is the quote, you know

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how lions don't eat dead prey because they go for

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the chase. Let that sink in. There was a grunt

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in there at one point, I mean the whole I

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think he just walks off. I mean, it's just you

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couldn't write better stuff than Will Gibbins has given us.

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So that's incredible. I don't know why. I just had

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a feeling when I first played that freeze out several

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weeks ago and he sat down at the table, he

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started telling the whole story about how he's band Caesar's properties,

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it's his first time back and so many years and

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all this sort of thing. I don't know why, but

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I just had a feeling. Maybe it's just the experience

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being on the media side in me coming out, but

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I just had a feeling this guy was gonna make

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noise this summer. So I had to tell that story.

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I told it a few different times, got Will tell

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it as well. And now here he is making day

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eight in the final twenty one players of the Wacopa event.

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Just absolutely wild stuff. And we're in for We're in

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for a show with Will Gibbons going forward. That's for

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damn sure. Sean Deep is behind him thirty one point

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three million. Sean Deep is cruising. I mean, I know

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he's not the biggest chipstack in the field, but to me,

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he has to absolutely be one of the favorites. He's

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been in these sorts of spots so many times. You

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can tell that the pressure does not get to him

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one bit. I don't know. I just every time you

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just looked at Sean Deeb's chip count on the screen,

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he had a few million more than he did when

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they last showed him and I know there was some

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up and downs in there, yes, of course, but ultimately

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finished on relatively high here for Sean Deep thirty one

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point three million, he's you know, towards the top half

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of the pack here and cruising along. Now, Sean Deep,

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he's one of the players that Remco spoke to and

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Remko wanted to ask him about the whole implement implementation

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of the play cocks right before play and Sean Dee

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had some interesting takes on it. So let's hear from

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Sean Dee first and then we'll come back. We'll talk

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about that situation a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: Sean, the big situation that came out today that there's

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a clock and stated pre flop, What led to that

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and what's your response to it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I've been friends with a lot

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of the staff and the flour men Worldsai's Europe. A

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few years ago there was issues with stalling and Andy

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was running a tournament. We talked about whether or not

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to install shot clocks, and you know, I know last

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year with the casuit there there's been a lot of

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discussion last few years, like they really have to implement it.

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It's really unfair, and I saw the post you know,

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fifteen minute Tank by Lauren Klein, like, you know, it's

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so unfair to the other seven tables that that table's

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playing no hands. We might have played seven hands at

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the feature table in that time period. So you know,

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I think the floor made a good decision. I wish,

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you know, it was a little more. A lot of

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people never play shot clocks. I think they could have

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been a better explanation. But luckily for the people at

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my table, I'm giving them explanations that I know it's

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on them, you know, try to make it. But it's

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obviously I think more people bust this level than they

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would have there wasn't shot clock, And I obviously it's

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better for me personally. I've played a lot with shot clock.

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I make quick decisions. But yeah, I think it's a

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necessary evil at this stage of determament because people were

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too abusive on time. We don't want to go hand

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for hand or around for round, and so this is

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the best, you know, solution to the problem at hand.

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Speaker 2: The chaka has been brought up many times in the past,

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but the argument against it, for the main was always

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the majority of players are not familiar with that, and

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they're also recreational, so they might take more time in general.

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What's your response to that.

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Speaker 5: I think it's the opposite the pros, who take way

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more time than recreational. Very few recreationals tank. It is

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way more the pros tank than recreational. So I think,

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if anything, this is better for the recreationals because the

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pros can't sit there for seven minutes every turn and

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figure out do I have one point five X spot

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or do I you know, hero call this guy? And

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so I actually think shot clocks are better for REX.

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I think that they're going to be more impulsive, they're

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going to make their decisions quickly. They're not gonna Hollywood

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as much. And yeah, I think it's way worse for pros.

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And I also think it's a better experience for the

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wreck like people sitting there, you know, people talking to me, like, dude,

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I watched a hand where it took six minutes for

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the guy to fucking check the turn, Like It's like

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people are just went too far on time. So it's

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a good solution. I think I'll make better TV. A

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lot more hands are gonna be played, a lot, a

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lot more shit's gonna go down, and I'm excited to

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see how the rest of the main turns out.

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Speaker 1: All right, So that was deep And you heard him

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there say that he thinks that adding the clocks in

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like this benefits the recreationals more. I know there's been

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a lot of debate about that on social media. I know,

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you know, Nick and Ali talked about it in the

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booth like it's been talked about pretty much ad nauseum,

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you know. But I'm going to weigh in here with

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my side of things. I can make the argument for

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both sides on who it benefits more, pros or recreationals.

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I know producer Rich has had this long standing take

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that the Wsby main event structure is too good and

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if we want recreational to have a better chance, we

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need to make their structure worse, to increase the variants

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a little bit, because that's ultimately better for the recreationals,

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even if they don't think that that is ultimately better

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for them. So I do kind of agree with deeb

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been saying that yes, faster time can increase the variance,

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which ultimately makes it a little bit better for the recreationals.

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Because if the pros have more time, you know, they're

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going to be able to really put all the pieces

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of the puzzle together and get things correct. I can

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also very much agree with the other side of the

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argument that says it's better for the pros to have

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a shorter amount of time because they're used to this

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sort of thing and they're going to be able to

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make more efficient decisions in a smaller window of time.

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Just think about you know, all the pros who are playing,

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and Sean Deeve was was certainly one of these players,

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definitely back in the day playing online. But all the

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players who have played twelve, sixteen, twenty tables at once,

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maybe more online at a time. Patrick Leonard is one

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of them. I know we're going to talk about him

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in a little bit as well, But you know, all

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these players who have played endless tables online at once,

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like they're constantly making super fast decisions over and over again,

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and yet is that the absolute best decision that they

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could make, like in that given moment on one table,

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Maybe not, because if they maybe had a little bit

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more time, yes, they could have made a better decision

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if they were able to think things through and put

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more pieces of the puzzle together and figure out the

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problem a little bit more, of course, But if you're

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able to come to a very good decision in a

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shorter period of time, then someone else who's lesser experienced

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in this sort of spot than you and doesn't have

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all of that data already working in their brain from

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all of the hundreds millions of hands that they've played,

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hundreds of thousands and millions of hands that they've played

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in the past, then yeah, the pros are going to

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be better in this spot too. So I can see

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kind of both sides of the argument there. My big

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thing is that we've always made conversation about how tournaments

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need play clocks like this, and specifically the main event

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should have play clocks starting to be put into them.

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You know, maybe not from the beigin because the fuel

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is just too large, but at some point put them in,

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which I think is a fine take to make and have,

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and I'm pretty sure that I've made that before many times.

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I just have a big problem with implementing it right

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before the start of Day seven, in the middle of

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the tournament, when this was not planned at all. Now

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I believe keV Matt did share on social media that

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it isn't the rules that at any time the tournament

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staff can opt to put a play clock in if

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they if they deem that it's necessary to have one,

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or if they want to have one. I get it,

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but I mean, it just seems a bit crazy to

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do it this way when it's the biggest spot of

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everyone's life, and that's recreationals, that's pros, that's everyone in

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the tournament. There's so much money on the line, and

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you're just changing these rules, Like why because one guy

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the day before tanked for fifteen or sixteen minutes? Was

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the report that was Lauren Klein on a hand? Well,

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I mean one, players can call the clock, right, players

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need to call the clock more. And I know it's

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hard for players at the specific table because they are

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incentivized not to call the clock. They're just because every

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other table can can play hands and they can all

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lose players and we're just going to sit here and

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wait as long as possible. But that's where the tournament

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staff needs to step in. At some point it just

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becomes way too out of line. And I do think

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that when you get down to the later stages of

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a tournament of this magnitude, and this is the biggest

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tournament in the world, the biggest spot for all of

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these players in the world that they will ever have

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in their poker lives. You should have a tournament director

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for each table. I don't know when that starts. Let's

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say that starts with ten tables left. You're then able

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to have ten tournament directors. But when there's twenty tables left,

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there's still ten tournament directors, and each of them have

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two tables to manage, right, And then there's thirty tables left,

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each of them and have three tables to manage, whatever

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that is, and that number obviously gets smaller and smaller

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as you go on. My point is that you need

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to like physically be watching this stuff like a hawk,

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because you know this has been a problem before. Tanking

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and stalling for the paye jumps has been an issue

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for as long as I can remember. I remember, heck

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years ago, I don't even know the years, like maybe

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twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen. I could look it up, but

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I'm not going to look it up right now. But

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when I was at Pokerings at the time and we

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implemented hand for hand coverage from the final three tables,

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and I remember one of the tables was playing a

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lot slower than the other tables were playing. And so

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the tournament staff came to us because they knew that

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that we were, you know, covering it hand for hand,

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and they asked us to give them a report whenever

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we would ask on what hand number each table was on,

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and then they would they would see that and they'd

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be like, Okay, this table is on hand number thirty,

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this table is on hand number forty five. Well, this

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one table's playing so much slower than the one. We

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need to pause the other tables and a lot of

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these other tables to catch up, or maybe we need

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to go watch the one table to see what's actually

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happening there.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I know at the studio when we get down to

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certain number of tables, they're kind of soft hand for

480
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handling it, and they're just they're counting how many hands

481
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are being played at each table, and they're monitoring things,

482
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and they're constantly pausing one table so that another table

483
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can catch up and everything can be played on equal footing.

484
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So we need that level of focus on this tournament

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when it's the biggest tournament in the world, So that

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would have been the simple fix. Today, you come out

487
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ahead of time. First of all, you speak to all

488
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the tournament directors you know, and you say, hey, listen,

489
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here's what we're going to do today.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 1: You each have these tables to cover and this is

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what you're monitoring. And if it gets out of line,

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you need to issue warning to the players. You need

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to start clogging them right. And then after you have

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your talk with your staff, you can say to the

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players in the tournament, Okay, everyone, here's the deal. This

497
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is becoming issue. We've noticed it happening. We're not going

498
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to implement a clock, but this is what's happening. Everyone

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is going to be on a relatively short short leash.

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We understand these are big moments for you and you

501
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need to take your time and you need to think

502
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about things. But if it is deemed that you guys

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are abusing the time that is allotted to you, which

504
00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:22,720
is you know, abusing means when you bet ninety nine

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00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:25,720
percent of your chips you leave it behind, you basically

506
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say that you're Because there has been times and they

507
00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:29,160
shown it on a stream where they've been like, you

508
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,720
know what, I'm just going to tank for the pay jump.

509
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But I'm probably calling like they'll say stuff like that

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the players. I've been at tables when people have said that,

511
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I get it, these are big pay jumps. But if

512
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you're openly saying that, and you're you're betting the large

513
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majority of your chips and then you should be calling

514
00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:45,240
like that, that's that's abuse of the situation, okay, and

515
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the tournament staff should stay on top of that, and

516
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then you don't need to abruptly put this clock into play,

517
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which in a lot of ways changes the dynamics of

518
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the whole tournament. It's very weird that a decision like

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this would be made on day seven, or entering day

520
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seven of the biggest tournament in the world. I do

521
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think that clocks need to be implemented in this tournament

522
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,079
at some stage because of the tanking and the stalling

523
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,000
that starts to happen. Yes, but doing it this way

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just I don't think sits right with me, and I

525
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,160
don't think sits right with a lot of people. As

526
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you saw from the response on social media that said

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looks like things made it through the day. I guess

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unscathed because there wasn't a big issue that I could tell.

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I mean, I don't know if this means that next

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year we're for sure getting the clocks on day seven

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or maybe even sooner, but I would guess that the

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answer is yes. I just would have done it a

533
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different way. As always, if you guys have any thoughts

534
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,640
out there and you want to hit me up directly

535
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,480
about them, you guys can hit me up on social media.

536
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:48,960
You can also send your emails into podcasts at pokro

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dot com and I can see what you guys happened

538
00:26:51,160 --> 00:27:08,039
to say. Hosting. Enson also bagged chips for Day eight.

539
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,920
This run is becoming absolutely freaking incredible because he won

540
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,880
this tournament in twenty nineteen and now he's in the

541
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final twenty one and he looks strong, he looks cool,

542
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:25,640
he looks calm, he looks collected, he's playing his game.

543
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,200
He looks awesome. I'm sure when you've had experience, I mean,

544
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,039
when you've had experience, many people have said it, when

545
00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:35,039
you've had experience going deep in this tournament before, you

546
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then know how to do things the next time around.

547
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It just really really helps you. When you've gone on

548
00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:44,240
to win it before, I mean, must feel like a

549
00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:48,519
freaking superpower out there, honestly, and hosting Enson is just

550
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:52,079
absolutely doing the damn thing. If he's able to win

551
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,880
this one, I mean, it has to be the greatest

552
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,160
feat in the modern era.

553
00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:57,079
Speaker 4: It just has to be.

554
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Speaker 1: I would put it ahead of Michael Mazra what he

555
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,200
did last year, and that's winning the fifty k and

556
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then winning the main event. If if Entson's able to

557
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,079
win two WSP main events, don't I don't know what

558
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,160
the field size was in twenty nineteen, it was probably

559
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,079
around eight or nine thousand whatever, you know, just a

560
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,559
giant field. You're playing for whatever, how many, nine, ten

561
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days or whatever of actual poker across two weeks. And

562
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to be able to do that twice in this era,

563
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,960
with how hard this tournament is, that's just wild shit, man, unbelievable.

564
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,119
Thomas Klack from the UK he also backtips played very well.

565
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,160
Pretty crazy stat here about Thomas Klack. He finished second

566
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,160
in I think it was twenty twenty five in a

567
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tournament in the UK, a two hundred pound buy in

568
00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:49,279
the Grosvenner Goliath the tournament and he won two hundred

569
00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:52,519
pound buy him. Okay, guys, he won two hundred and

570
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:56,880
seventeen thousand pounds. That's two hundred and ninety two thousand dollars.

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The field size was twelve nine hundred sixty one entries.

572
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I mean, holy hell. Antonio Galliana is still in Mario

573
00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:10,880
Boss Han Feng, Daniel Stavas, Michael Gaggliano Gags a longtime

574
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,839
pro strong online player, a ton of experience out of

575
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,960
New Jersey. He is a bracelet winner. From twenty sixteen,

576
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:20,960
he won the twenty five hundred dollars no limit hold

577
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:25,200
him for four hundred and forty eight thousand dollars. Jamie

578
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,799
Schevell also a player out of the US. Now this

579
00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:32,960
is a wild stat. Shavel has cashed in the WSB

580
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:38,720
Main Event eight times now eight times. Listen to this.

581
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Two thousand and nine he finished in three hundred and

582
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fifth place. Twenty eleven, he got one hundredth In twenty twelve,

583
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he got three hundred and seventy six. In twenty sixteen,

584
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he got two hundred and fifty ninth. In twenty seventeen,

585
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,599
he got four hundred and fifteenth. In twenty twenty two

586
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,720
he got six hundred and thirtieth, and then in twenty

587
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:59,799
twenty four he got thirteen hundred and tenth so eight

588
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,440
w Soupete main event cashes for Jamie Chevelle, and this

589
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,640
is of course his best one to date. But that

590
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,759
is an absolutely incredible line of results in this tournament.

591
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,640
Just wild stuff there from Jamie Chevelle. Romaine Lewis still

592
00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:20,839
left an established French pro bracelet winner. In twenty twenty one,

593
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,400
he won the ten K Super Turbo Bounty for four

594
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:29,519
hundred and sixty three thousand dollars. Lori Saskillatti, I butchered

595
00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:32,359
that last name. I'm sorry. Finished player fifteen point six

596
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,759
million in today eight. Brock Wilson. We've talked about mister Wilson,

597
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,920
how it wasn't the best summer for him after a

598
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:41,039
great start to the year, but he's doing the damn

599
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,200
thing here. Brock Wilson had a pretty crazy day. At

600
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one point he got it all in against the gentleman

601
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,200
that I just mentioned, Sascalotti. They got it all in

602
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:52,720
on the turn of a king high board. Believe it

603
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:58,279
was King three deuce six. Brock Wilson had King Queen,

604
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,000
Sascalotti had Ace three and I was bluffing and he

605
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:07,160
hit an ace on the river that knocked brock Wilson

606
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,480
down quite short, but then brock Wilson was able to

607
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:13,319
spin it back a little bit and put thirteen point

608
00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:16,720
six million chips in the back. So that's twenty about

609
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:20,279
twenty two and a half big blinds. Entering to day eighth,

610
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:25,680
Greg Mueller mister FBT himself still alive and he spoke

611
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:28,960
with Remco Renkima during play today. And this is one

612
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,119
of the realist conversations that you're going to hear, because

613
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,759
you know, not a lot of people are able to

614
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,119
admit that they might have been losing motivation, they might

615
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,839
have been losing the passion for the game. But Greg

616
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Mueller not only admitted that, he said, you know what,

617
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I'm going to do something about it. I'm gonna buckle

618
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,319
down it and I'm gonna get serious for this Dipesope

619
00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:48,720
main event. So here's the conversation that Greg Mueller had

620
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:49,799
with Remco.

621
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Speaker 2: Greg, we talked on the bubble and what you said

622
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,880
surprised me. Where you said, you know, I lost the fire,

623
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,640
I didn't really want to be here, and then you

624
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:02,640
to commitment to yourself to go and try in the

625
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,480
main event. We're a few days later, now, like, what

626
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:06,759
has that experience been like.

627
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:11,799
Speaker 4: It's been amazing and a big part of it. Obviously,

628
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,240
my goal is to win the main event. Next goal

629
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:17,359
is to get to the final table. But regardless of

630
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,319
what happens, I can. I can be proud of myself

631
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:24,359
because I you know, I started doubting myself because of

632
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,160
the lack of effort and lost enthusiasm I had for

633
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,880
the game. And when you don't enjoy something, it's very

634
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,720
difficult to be good at. And you know, like I said,

635
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:37,759
conversation with a couple of good buddies and they're like,

636
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:39,480
what are you doing here? Then you know, and it

637
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,759
made me realize, don't come if you're not gonna try. So,

638
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,640
you know what, Okay, the main it's not over. I'm

639
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,200
gonna go for it in the main. And I would

640
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:56,079
say based on my focus, my time, my composure, my success,

641
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,480
I've been all in once for my tournament life and

642
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,799
I'm gonna walk away no matter what I finish, knowing

643
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:08,720
that I can still play the game of poker. And yeah,

644
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,559
it's that that makes me proud, regardless.

645
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:16,759
Speaker 2: Of what I do. When you say out loud that

646
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,079
you lost the fire, what are the thoughts that come

647
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,680
to mind as to how that happens or what that means.

648
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: I just just you know, I need stimulation and I

649
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,880
sitting in a chair for twelve hours and getting older

650
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:35,599
doesn't do it for me. I'm active, I like to move,

651
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,480
I like to work out. I like to go out

652
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:39,839
with friends. I like the golf, I like to play hockey.

653
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:42,319
And when you're playing poker, you're making the commitment to

654
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:46,160
sit on a chair for twelve hours and causes weight gain,

655
00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:49,079
it causes bad eating habits. It's it's all things that

656
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,519
I don't like, and so and truthfully, you know, you

657
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,279
got to study a lot to be good, hone your craft,

658
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,319
and I'm on the golf course, I'm not studying, and

659
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:03,480
so you know, people are are solving the game and

660
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:06,680
it's frustrating too. So it's a combination of all these things.

661
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:11,199
And you know these this these last week, I've been

662
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,679
intensively chatting with Bucky, my my good friend, and we

663
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,719
go over hams all the time. We're discussing. So I'm

664
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:24,039
learning the gto part to go with my natural poker abilities,

665
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:28,599
my live reads, my instincts, and like I said, I'm

666
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,559
enjoying it and I'm trying. And when that combination hits

667
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,320
I'm it's proving that I still got it.

668
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: Did you have to remind yourself? Like, hey, I'm Greg Mueller,

669
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:41,280
I know how I know how this works.

670
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Speaker 4: Hundred I I you know, I kind of lost my

671
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,719
identity in the poker world, so to say, because I

672
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:55,000
just had that attitude of not wanting to be there.

673
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:58,320
And like I said, whether whether you're an actor, an athlete,

674
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,320
a pizza driver, a painter, a musician, if you don't

675
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,920
enjoy what you're doing, you're not gonna be good. And

676
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:08,199
it just kind of came. It actually got a bit

677
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,760
heated with a buddy and I where he was giving

678
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:17,159
me some tough love and said, hey, FBT, like, if

679
00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:19,760
you don't want to be here, then fly home, but

680
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,159
stop putting in these half efforts and burning money and

681
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,239
go and leaving and you know, and so like I said,

682
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,320
it's uh, yeah, I'm thrilled to be where I'm at.

683
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:34,039
My next goal is to to get through the day

684
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:37,559
and then and then make the final table, and then

685
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:39,840
I'll fly home. My trainer's gonna move in with me

686
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,559
for two and a half weeks. I'm gonna drop a

687
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:44,800
quick twenty LB's and come hungry for the final table,

688
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,960
and I mean hungry.

689
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Speaker 1: You love to hear that from Greg Mueller. There very

690
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,719
much seems in tune with where he stands in this

691
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,920
whole thing, very much in tune with himself. And now

692
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,559
the next goal is to make the final table, and

693
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:02,679
we'll see if he can do it. Dylan Smith still

694
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,719
alive as well, one of the shorter stacks. These are

695
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,559
the shorter stacks now that we're talking about. Dylan Smith

696
00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:11,880
won the twenty twenty four WPT Seminal Hard Rock Rock

697
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,320
and Roll Poker Open for six hundred and sixty two

698
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,079
thousand dollars. He want to bracelet this summer. Earlier this

699
00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:20,880
summer twenty twenty six dos a p twenty five hundred

700
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,519
dollars mixed Big Bet for one hundred and eighty two k.

701
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,840
Dylan Smith certainly one of the best all around players

702
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,760
in the world. You can definitely tell from the way

703
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,159
he's playing this main event that he values his tournament

704
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,559
life to the utmost superiority. And it's likely because at

705
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,880
least this is my guess, is that he thinks he

706
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:44,800
has an edge over the field, which I mean, maybe

707
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,719
not every single player in the field, but I think

708
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,239
out of all the twenty one players remaining, and for

709
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:51,000
much of the day, of course, there was more than

710
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:54,320
twenty one players remaining, but during this day, on Day seven,

711
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:57,320
I would say that Dylan is in the upper the

712
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,480
upper portion, you know, a small little win let's say

713
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:04,880
five or ten percent of top skillful players left in

714
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,599
the field. So that said, he doesn't really need to

715
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:10,719
increase the variants. In fact, he's trying to lower the

716
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,360
variants as much as possible so he's able to apply

717
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:18,079
his skill across a greater stretch of hands, across every

718
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:20,079
single street. You know, there were some spots where you

719
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:22,639
could argued that he could have easily just moved all in,

720
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,039
but he opted to take a more conservative route to things,

721
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:29,320
and ultimately it's worked out because you know, Dylan hasn't

722
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,719
had the biggest stack all throughout this tournament, but he

723
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,519
is moving on to day eight. Todd Brunson is also

724
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,480
still remaining. He's the second shortest stack heading to day eight,

725
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:44,280
and then we have Tolga Karakaya out of Germany is

726
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,000
bringing up the rear with three million in chips. That's

727
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:50,239
going to be I think five big lines entering a

728
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,000
day eight. So that's that's the final twenty one players.

729
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,119
Really good group of players, a very strong group of players,

730
00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:58,000
a lot of you know, a lot of big names

731
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:01,719
in here, some top pro some really skillful players, cool stories.

732
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 3: In the mix.

733
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:04,199
Speaker 1: I think we're in We're in store for a very

734
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,320
very fun final table. Really, no matter how this shakes out,

735
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:09,840
it's been a lot of fun to track these players

736
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,360
all throughout, and we got one more day to get

737
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,559
down to that final table of nine. I mentioned there

738
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:18,480
were sixty two players that came in to Day seven.

739
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,039
A handful of those that were eliminated were Kongya Zang

740
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,719
sixty first place for her, she was the last woman standing.

741
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:30,360
Ralph Perry, he called it off incorrectly on a hero call.

742
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,039
He really went for it, but ultimately didn't work out

743
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:35,480
for him. He had he had a pair in his hand,

744
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,719
he had a pair of eights and what it was

745
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,719
like third pair on board or something, but he ran

746
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,079
into his opponent's set. He busted in forty fourth place.

747
00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:47,880
We lost Jacob Thibodeau and Kay Lautenbacher forty third for Thibodeau.

748
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,719
Lautenbaker got forty second. Two guys I've played quite a

749
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,320
bit with around town here in Las Vegas. Both of

750
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,920
them are on the younger side. Both of them are

751
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:59,000
very solid. I would expect to see much more from

752
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:02,440
them in the future. We also lost start of day

753
00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:07,039
chip leader Tyler Gaston in thirty seventh place. We lost

754
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:12,320
Patrick Leonard in thirty seconds. Patrick Leonard Son, I know

755
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,280
he didn't make it through the day. There was a

756
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,679
lot of love from Patrick Leonard. I'm a big PADS fan.

757
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:21,039
I've talked about him many times on this podcast. Love

758
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:23,679
what he stands for, love the grind, love his passion

759
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,079
for poker. I love it all when it comes to

760
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:28,639
Patrick Leonard. I know a lot of people out there

761
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,800
were rooting for PADS. Ultimately, he did fall short. He

762
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,800
lost a big flip. But you know, what are you

763
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,280
gonna do when it's all said and done. But I

764
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,800
do want to play this interview that this interview that

765
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,880
Patrick did with Remco came before he busts it out,

766
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,880
so you know, I do, but I do want to

767
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,079
play it for you guys anyway, you know, before we

768
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,760
ultimately say goodbye. Here to Patrick Leonard from the wasb

769
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,280
min event. So here is Patrick Leonard talking to Remco

770
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,079
on day seven.

771
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,519
Speaker 2: We talked yesterday, and you mentioned that this is more

772
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:03,119
about soaking in and enjoying the experience than it is

773
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:06,920
about celebrating the wind. Potentially, Yeah, twenty years from now,

774
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:09,639
if you were to watch back this video or think

775
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:12,519
back of this experience, what would you hope to remember?

776
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 3: Probably just having fun. I think every hand there's something

777
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,079
fun about it. It's like something interesting about it, something quirky.

778
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:24,280
It's been a very intense day because there's shot clocks

779
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:27,159
and the four hands into the day. I use all

780
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,639
of my time banks, so I have to make every decision. Well,

781
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:32,920
I had to make every decision within twenty seconds basically,

782
00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:37,119
So I'm playing basically blinds of like twenty five fifty

783
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:39,719
thousand dollars, which is obviously high stakes than anywhere else

784
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,639
which is running in the world right now. So I'm

785
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:44,920
doing it with twenty seconds at a time. So in

786
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,639
between hands, instead of necessarily having so much fun, I've

787
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,440
tried to, like, what would I do if this happens?

788
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: This happens?

789
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,559
Speaker 3: This happens because brain solving with emotion, brain solving when

790
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:58,119
you're tired after seven days is quite tough. It's quite

791
00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:00,320
funny because online you actually have like fifteen secons and

792
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,760
you have other tables, so people like, what are you

793
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,280
talking about? But I just haven't played quite these stakes before,

794
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,639
so it's gone a little bit less from having fun

795
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,039
and then a little bit more from intensity. And at

796
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:14,039
this stage, I think people expected it to be like

797
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:16,280
fifty people left and there's thirty two because the shot

798
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,519
clocks have just made it play like three times as

799
00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:20,719
many hands. So yeah, just trying to.

800
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 5: Work around that.

801
00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:27,559
Speaker 2: Basically, does the intensity and pressure come from your current

802
00:41:27,639 --> 00:41:30,440
situation being shorter, or does it also come from the moment.

803
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: It comes from other people as well. I feel like

804
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,199
if I think energy is like energy comes from other people.

805
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,199
You know, if if a guy at the table starts

806
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,280
being like a jerk, everyone else will kind of like

807
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:43,599
hide away kind of thing where you have like a

808
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:45,840
really nice guy who social whatever, everyone else just kind

809
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,559
of like comes out their shell too. So everyone's stacks

810
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:50,519
are swinging up and down and people are losing, you know,

811
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,760
like millions of dollars in EV or winning millions of

812
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,119
dollars in EV. So you're just trying to feed up

813
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,440
other people's energy. Like I don't want to necessarily crack

814
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,920
a joke with a guy who's just lost like three

815
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,840
million dollars in ev But if a guy next to me,

816
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,119
he's just one, you know, a big part, I'll give

817
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:04,039
them a litle fish one under the table. So it's

818
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:06,840
a yes. It was very laid back, chilled. Today is

819
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:07,559
very intense.

820
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:09,599
Speaker 2: I would say, do you think you're one of the

821
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:13,119
few left aware of how big this moment is?

822
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:15,559
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I don't think it's lost

823
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:18,400
on anybody. I think everyone's everyone seems to be really

824
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,880
soaked in. There has been a few spots where like

825
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,760
people are just like, let's say, gambled quote unquote. But

826
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,760
it's not necessarily the worst thing to do to gamble. Now,

827
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,760
you know, the pay rumps from two sixty five to

828
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,199
three twenty five is a lot. It's you know, over

829
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,800
fifty thousand dollars, but first place is ten million and

830
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,679
we're not that far from it now we're like last

831
00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:37,599
three and a half tables, so you have to get

832
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:40,079
one table down and h Yeah, playing for the win

833
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:42,960
isn't necessarily the worst thing. Especially with the shot clock

834
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,760
and intensity, you can kind of take an advantage of

835
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:45,360
a big stack.

836
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, final question, what does it take if you

837
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,320
still need to do stuff to get to that point,

838
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,199
to walk away feeling proud of your your accomplishment and

839
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:57,800
your performance.

840
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never really feel pride, to be honest, after

841
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,559
a tournament. It's usually you always remember the hands you

842
00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:05,559
played bad or you could have done something different, rather

843
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:08,199
than the hands you played well. So it's not usually

844
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:11,679
an emotion I have. But I'm not sure I'm imagining.

845
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:14,400
I try to always plan for different scenarios so that

846
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:16,440
I don't get too overwhelmed one way or another, too

847
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,840
happy two side, And yeah, I'm kind of prepared to

848
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,960
go out as the next player, but I'm not trying to.

849
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,800
I basically, you just don't want to try to play

850
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,920
day seven waiting for Day eight tomorrow. I want to

851
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,719
play at the moment right now and try to get

852
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,320
as many chips as like I'm listening.

853
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: So that was Pad's great run for him, great score

854
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,000
of course. Now I'm sure he's gonna turn his attention

855
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:56,119
to watching his home country of England to try and

856
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,639
bring it home in the world. Cuppie Pantaleo another player

857
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:03,800
who I've played quite a bit with around town. He

858
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,599
busted in twenty fifth place. Fun little note about Giuseppe.

859
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,519
So I'm in the Poker Steak Giant group, theed where

860
00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:12,440
we all have to post our receipts and stuff to

861
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,840
settle all the steak in arrangements that we do on

862
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,760
poker Steak. After he busted, Giseppe posted that he hopped

863
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,480
into three k PLO six max I think or whatever

864
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:24,599
that three k plo tournament is that that started at

865
00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:27,079
the World Series today. All the respect to him, because

866
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:28,760
there's no way in hell I'd be able to do that.

867
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:32,280
After busting this deep in the WSITP main event and

868
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,920
then we lost Jaulu in twenty second place. He was

869
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,280
the last player to bust on the day. He was

870
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,199
once over forty million. I'm not sure if he touched

871
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,119
fifty million or not, but he had a bowload of

872
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,039
chips and then all of a sudden he just collapsed,

873
00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:49,000
like started just losing all these different pots. He paid

874
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:53,000
off a big bet to Jue Milan kind of late

875
00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:56,719
in the night when Jumalan had a Broadway straight and

876
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,639
Lou just had a pair of bases, so that was

877
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:02,840
a big loss, and then ultimately busted after that and

878
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:05,280
he was out the door in twenty second place. So

879
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,760
that leaves us with twenty one players left in the

880
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,119
World Series of Poker Main Event. They are all headed

881
00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:15,519
to Day eight on Monday. They are all guaranteed three

882
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:19,119
hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. The next pay jump

883
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:22,239
will be when there are seventeen players left. Those seventeen

884
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,800
players will get four hundred and ten thousand dollars and

885
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,159
then we will go from there. The goal is The

886
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,840
goal is on Monday to reach the twenty twenty six

887
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,360
WSP Main Event Final table, the final table for the

888
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:42,719
greatest poker tournament in the world. The final nine are

889
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,280
all guaranteed. Once they get there, they will all be

890
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:50,719
guaranteed one million dollars with a giant a massive shout out,

891
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,000
massive ten million dollars up top. I mean, this has

892
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:57,440
been freaking awesome to watch from start to finish. I

893
00:45:57,519 --> 00:45:59,719
will be watching as much as I can on Monday,

894
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,039
and of course be watching the final table as always.

895
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:05,679
You guys need to tune in to the coverage because

896
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,360
it is blockbuster out there. I can't wait to see it. Shawnde,

897
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:13,440
Will Givens and so on doing the thing. We got

898
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:16,400
the young, the young, an up and coming Aussie Malcolm

899
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,800
trainor I mean, it's just it's so cool to see

900
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,480
all of this come together and I can't wait to

901
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:24,360
see how it all unfolds and what the final nine

902
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:25,280
bring for us.

903
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 4: But that's it.

904
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: That's the pod. As always, thank you very much for listening.

905
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,480
Shout out to producer Rich. My name is Donnie Peters

906
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:34,280
and I will talk to you guys next time.

907
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,159
Speaker 3: Jenny

