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Speaker 1: To Train Your dragons spoilers. REVIEW i am the Dragon
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we were very. Privileged we got to see the movie
a whole day. Early we had an early release here
in our nick of The, woods so we saw the
movie yesterday at the time of this, recording which would
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Speaker 1: It let's go to the land Of burke here where
there's a dragons of. Plenty i'm gonna start, off of,
course spoiler, free as we always. Do But, titifield what's
your history with the Animated how To Train Your? Dragon
and is it a franchise that's near and dear to your?
Speaker 2: Heart? Is have you seen all the? Movies have you
seen THE tv?
Speaker 1: SHOW i think it's only ONE tv show that came,
Out but, yeah how does this franchise sit with?
Speaker 3: You i've not seen THE tv, show BUT i have
seen all three films nice and going. BACK i don't
THINK i saw this one right. AWAY i think like
the first, one the first, One yeah. DIDN'T i don't
think i've Seen oh, no MAYBE i saw the second
one in. Theaters that might be the only. One the
REST i never raced right away to see. Them that being,
said ALL i ever heard was good, things AND i
think that this is A it's a franchise that got,
really really, large really really, fast and eventually WHEN i
got around to watching these movies, that holy, smokes these
are very very emotional. Journeys there's a lot going on,
here and they're just, yeah they's just. There there's definitely
a sweet place in my heart for this. Franchise i'm
not rushing back and rewatching them all the time or
just absolutely like over the moon like some people. Are
BUT i enjoy the soul that these movies, have AND
i enjoy the the heart strings that they can, pull
and just the, story you, know when it comes down
To hiccup and is a night fury, TOOTHLESS i just
think that there's a there's a really really good, morale
kind of humbling story embedded in. Here and just from
his journey from the first movie to the third movie
is just it's, incredible all that change he goes. Through
but at its, CORE i really DO i do like
that first one a lot in the sense too THAT
i was Telling madison this the other. DAY i Know
i've watched the whole, thing but When i've watched the whole,
thing it was very much like a long long time,
ago AND i remember the other iterations better than the first,
One and so WHEN i go, back AND i touched
out on that first. ONE i really only remember the first,
ooh probably like forty minutes like up until like while
he's doing like his training and. Stuff that's that's ALL
i really remember is just the first little bit of
the animated. Film so WHEN i was going into the
live action, ONE i, know of, COURSE i know what
happens in the end and everything like, that but there
was still a lot like it felt like fresh for,
me And i'm really really happy about. That it was pretty. Awesome,
Yeah but other than, that it's JUST i love this.
FRANCHISE i really really. Do.
Speaker 1: Nice, Yeah, no like, YOU i hadn't seen any of
these movies like right. AWAY i watched them a little
bit later in. Life the first one came out in twenty.
TEN i THINK i was like grade eight or nine around,
then so it would have been like me in that
era of, like, OH i don't watch kids movies, anymore you,
know Like i'm past that realm BEFORE i made the
full circle swing to Where i'm always watching anime movies.
Now but you, KNOW i was just a little bit
out of my age, RANGE i, think and like people
around me weren't really watching, it SO i didn't really
hear a lot of positive or negative buzz about the,
movie knew that it was. Out but, yeah fast forward
later on in. Life shay my, partner she loves this
Movie how To Train Your, dragon the whole. Franchise it's
it's her absolute, favorite Like DreamWorks. Project she's she's seen
these movies so many, times so just by her love of,
it and like, us rewatched. THEM i really really grew
to love these. MOVIES i think the first TIME i
watched the first, one, LIKE i was really really impressed by.
It it like starts off like pretty nothing too, special
but THEN i feel like a lot of the uh
the toothless and hiccup dynamics, Stuff it's it's really really uh,
yeah it's just really, special really cute and tugs on
your heart. Strings and it's also just like a fun
world to jump. INTO i love this.
Speaker 2: WORLD i love the just designed for the dragons that
they have in the animated.
Speaker 1: SERIES i really like the art style of fits so.
Well and, yeah like the voice actors that go with
them are are. Fantastic so definitely has grown to become
like one of my favorite anime movies. Ever specifically the
first MOVIE i really like the second. ONE i feel
like it's it's pretty close to the. First the third
ONE i always thought was like a strong like bottom
going into, this And i've never seen the animated, show
But shay rewatched all all the movies yesterday AND i
just WHEN i got home from, work she was on
the third, one so we watched the third one, together
AND i must SAY i was like way more positive.
Speaker 2: On the third one on the second watch. Along so,
yeah that. Was that was a good. Time but coming
into the live, ACTION i.
Speaker 1: Had a lot of high expectations just BECAUSE i, mean
it's kind of like HOW i felt with The Avatar
last Airbend bender live action, remake not the first live
action that was that was a whole nother, thing but,
no like The netflix, Series LIKE i just love that
original animated series so, much SO i have such high
expectations for. It and because of, that like, SAID i
feel LIKE i also knew in the back of my
head like it wouldn't have met like to that. Caliber best,
cases it gets, close and that's kind of HOW i
feel overall for this live. ACTION i think there is
a lot of really special moments in, it BUT i
still think for the vast majority of the of the,
movie and it's just, like oh, yeah it's it's it's
pretty good, adaptation but in no way does it ever
exceed what the original property.
Speaker 2: Did in my.
Speaker 1: MIND i still had a really fun time with. It
the score was, slapping as it always. DOES i really
really love the score from the original animated, series and
just hearing those like like The toothless theme or whatever
like come, in or even just the, opening like, yeah
like when it has like the Dream works like logo
right at the start and you just hear that Like
burk like theme song coming, In like it just gets me.
Going so it was a really really fun theater. EXPERIENCE
i thought the dragons LOOKED i don't, KNOW i kind
of mixed feelings on the dragons BECAUSE i think they
did look, good BUT i still am kind of, like,
ah they just look so different from what like the
dragons THAT i love from the, series which it's kind
of hard to replicate because they have just very like
animated drawn eyes and it's kind of hard to replicate
that live. Action AND i don't THINK i would have
looked like. Good maybe if they like really tried to
make it look like, that like the animated, dragons SO
I i do understand the choice to change the. DRAGON i,
mean toothless looks. Fantastic that was a smart one to
keep the. Same you gotta have those big googly eyes
on that. Character but, yeah for the most, part, LIKE
i think it looks good as a live action, adaptation
and it didn't seem like they changed like anything too.
Crucial shae was filming me and there's a couple scenes
that they cut out from the animated but really nothing
like changing the story per. SE i haven't Seen Leland
stitch live, action But i've heard they changed some things in,
there AND i feel like those were more significant changes
than what they would have changed in this. One so, Yeah,
NO i had a good time with. THIS i thought
the cast was was pretty good for the most. Part, yeah,
no this was this was a fun. Time i'm GLAD
i left it and it wasn't like super, disappointed especially
like this Was shay's favorite movie ever and we watched
it on her, birthday SO i would have been pretty
demoralizing if she would have hated that, movie but she
she really really enjoyed. It so, YEAH i definitely recommend
this to fans of the, franchise even people that haven't
Seen how To Train dragon, Before, LIKE i think this
actually is a good spot to, start because if you
go from this to the to the, ANIMATED i think
the animate is just. Better so it's just like a
natural progression, to.
Speaker 2: Yeah to view.
Speaker 1: Them so, YEAH i think that's ALL i really have
to say for, now for spoiler free anything you want
to throw in.
Speaker 3: There it's it is quite a shame this way of
live action adaptations kind of just inherits this horrendous reputation
for changing. THINGS i could, not for the life of,
me pinpoint the differences between this movie and the animated,
one except for one. Character Maybe serious.
Speaker 2: Is it the serious chick with her counter? Things, yes
like the town sage in the original ANIMATED i thought.
Speaker 3: When they were this isn't a, spoiler BUT i. WAS
i was, thinking, oh, man they're going to give this
woman like she's in the main protagonist of this, movie
with how they were filming some of her. Shots but,
no IT'S i thought she was familiar in the.
Speaker 1: CARTOON i didn't remember at, all LIKE I i in
the middle of the, MOVIE i leaned over To, sham
like is this character? New like like like because it
seems like there is a lot of spotlight.
Speaker 2: On the character minor spoiler.
Speaker 1: Alert she doesn't say a single fucking word in an
entire movie like she She it's like she's shown to
be like leading up to a big monologue or something
by the end of the, film but it just never.
Happened SO i was kind of laughing about that BECAUSE
I i with how many TIMES i rewatched that animated,
MOVIE i still don't remember seeing that character in the
in the animated.
Speaker 2: Show so, yeah the.
Speaker 3: Other thing would have been a certain one of the
one of the kids they added some extra stuff with
oh yeah them That i'm sure was not in the
animated film from WHAT i. Remember BUT i loved all of.
THAT i. WAS i was cracking up at, it so
that was a welcome. Change.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cool, well let's unpack the all the.
Speaker 1: Chain will take our first ad break here going to
spoilers and then uh, yeah dive right. In all, Right,
Taylor we'll dive right. In were you talking About snotlout's.
Speaker 3: Dad, YES i don't know, names So i'm gonna defer
to your.
Speaker 1: EXPERTISE i got THE IMDb. UP i, Like i've seen
the movies many. Times but, yeah like their names they
go over my. HEAD i, Know, Astray, hiccup stoic and
uh toothless of. Course but like Even Nick frost character
Of gobbler that's his, name WHICH i think IS i
think it's like one of the best castings on the entire. List,
YEAH i Thought Nick frost is such a great job
with that. Character looked very similar to the mannerisms and,
everything like the humor was was like dead on with
the animated, version BUT i still didn't know his, name
like come, on they got goofy. Names but, yeah, No
snotlout WHO i must SAY i actually enjoyed him more
in this live action THAN i, Did and oh he
got me so good at so many different, Times LIKE
I i, think especially like what you say with the
addition of his father and how he has this like
just daddy issues of just trying to impress his.
Speaker 2: Dad uh, yeah it was it was just it was
just getting.
Speaker 1: ME i think the placement of the jokes, too was
just like perfect and, yeah like kind of the whole
humor around the other crew of like all their names
here It's astrad of, course and then Snot lout Fish
legs was like like the chubbier guy who was like
knew all like the. Info he was one that was
making like the card game out of the, dragons and
we had.
Speaker 2: Rough nut Tough.
Speaker 1: Nut Tough nut was the male, twin and Then roughnut
was the female and Rough nut, LIKE i feel LIKE
i like that character more amongst like out of all the,
crew like in the animated. Movies but in, HINDSIGHT i
feel like she actually kind of has a more minor
role in the first. Movie like as the movies go,
ON i feel like she becomes more of a just
just a louder, character AND i like her humor just
gets me a lot more SO i was okay with
her being a little bit more of a back.
Speaker 2: Seat and in this, Movie uh tough not. What he
was really. GOOD i thought that was fantastic. CASTING i
thought he was really.
Speaker 3: Good he looked LIKE i, know, no he he looked
like the character holy, crap ye yeah with UH i
already snot snot, breaths not, loud snot.
Speaker 2: Loud, Jesus, okay he's not what kind of name is?
Speaker 3: Hiccup it's, like your name is not? Loud so when
he when he first, uh like the truth the troops
are coming, back The vikings are coming, back and he's, like,
oh you, know me and my, Dad will got a
great relationship and love my. DAD i just his dad
just walks off scranges, here, like don't talk to. Me
that set the tone right. There that cracked me. Up but,
yeah every everything he was doing and whatnot was just
really really really. Funny oh my, god because he's just
such a he's just like a scumbag wanna Be viking
kind of. Character but REALLY i really like. That and
then Fish. LEGS i really really liked Fish legs a.
LOT I i was never like a huge Fish likes
kind of fan in the in the animated, movies but
in THIS i couldn't stop laughing when he would just
be like he's talking about pulling out all the cards
and stuff and. EVERYTHING i know that's stuff that's in
the the animated but just that moment when they pull
out The book Of dragons and you just get this
like ten second scene that zoomed in on him and
he's like. Climaxing that was Some oh we talked. Dragons
that was ten out of ten face acting right. There holy,
shit that was that was.
Speaker 1: Incredible, yeah that was cracking us up for, sure and then,
yeah just rounding off the rest of the crew here
we Got astrid of, course Who, YEAH i don't.
Speaker 2: KNOW i thought she was, Fantastic Nico.
Speaker 1: PARKER i thought her performance was really really, Good LIKE
i was very much convinced that she Was. Astrid she
was badass character uh slaying, dragons AND i liked her
chemistry on screen With Mason. TAMES i Hope i'm saying that,
Right tames Or themes the chap that Played. HICCUP i
thought she was really. Good her hair kept tripping me, out.
THOUGH i thought it looked fine when it was zoomed,
in but when it was zoomed, out she just had
these like really crazy because they were like, braids and
then at the at the bottoms it was just like
like really, aggressive like split. ENDS i thought it just
looked very like an explosion had gone off everybody Like Looney,
tunes you, know when Like Elmer fudd is hunting and
then bugs money like sticks his finger in the gun
and it like blows. Up that's what it looked. Like
her hair and just looked a little little wiggy for.
Me but, no it's kind of a minor. CRITIQUE i
thought she was really.
Speaker 2: Good. Yeah, NO i don't really have anything else to
say on those.
Speaker 3: CHARACTERS i had her and everyone. ELSE i think that
they just they all came to. PLAY i really really
did not feel like anyone was in there that was
just was checked. Out they were all checked. In they
were bringing THEIR a, game AND i feel, Like, okay
they're they're here to deliver on these these. Characters and
that's another thing that really really sold, me BECAUSE i
felt like they were actually they are present and they
were not only having a good, time but just committed
to these. Roles Especially Gerard butler, hole oh, shit like
HE i felt like he this is his. Character he's
been voicing this character so long and now he's here
to like bring. It AND i was, like you were.
LAUGHING i was laughing when he walks in The hiccups.
Room it's, like So i'm keeping secrets from. Me i'm, Like, god, damn.
Speaker 2: Give him the belt or.
Speaker 3: Something oh, yeah, yeah but he was, Great, Google.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no he was.
Speaker 1: FANTASTIC i bet when, they you, know approached, him they're,
like we're doing the live action and how to train
your dreg.
Speaker 3: THAT i bet you know how Long i've been waiting for.
This who AM i about to make our name for?
Speaker 1: Myself, yeah BECAUSE i was always thought it was so great,
that like the animated, version like it literally just looks
Like Gerard, Butler like they designed that character to look
Like Gerard. Butler so WHEN i found out that he
was like actually cast it As stoic in the live,
action it's just that that's just. Perfect and, Yeah i'm
glad he didn't just phone in the. Performance he was
definitely chewing up the scenery and not overdoing, It LIKE
i feel like it was on par with what The
stoic in the animated version.
Speaker 2: Was AND i love that.
Speaker 1: CHARACTER i thought he was really really. GOOD i like
to just see kind of the progression that he goes
on throughout the series and especially in this first, movie
his dynamic with Gobber Nick frost's, character even the moments
that he has With, Astrod, LIKE i thought he was
just a really Good pillar throughout the whole. Film, YEAH
i feel like there is a lot Of stoic in
the animated, version BUT i didn't really like catch it
Until i'm watching the live, action just because it's Like
Gerard butler on, screen and like his scenes just stick
with me so much more than the animated.
Speaker 2: Version but, yeah, no he was.
Speaker 3: Great yeah, no he was fantastic for. Sure there's just
every scene that he was. ON i really liked it
because he delivered on the the comedic stuff and he
delivered on the emotional. Stuff When hiccup just he finds
out About hiccup what's going on with The trial Of
fire and then he's just, like you're not my, son
and just like the intensity of that where it's like
he's up in the doorway and then he turns and
he walks away and he's just like got those crazy
eyes when he figures out where the nest is and
has toothless guiding them that he's just he is so on,
point AND i love. It i'd love every second of.
That BUT i mean on the humorous. Notes the other
thing that really cracked me up is when they're about
to do The trial Of fire and he's just, like,
AH i could finally show my face in public. Again
he's just so Good and a lot of those LINES
i don't recall if they were in the animated, Version
Like i'm pretty.
Speaker 1: Sure they are like for the, moment they are like
the humor of the animated movie is really. Good LIKE
i think that's why this one was making me laugh
so hard because it was staying true to. That But
i'm pretty sure that's, scene like it's pretty much on
par with the dialogue of.
Speaker 3: The, okay was the hell elmet breast plate thing in The, Adam.
Speaker 2: Yeah i'm pretty. Sure i'm pretty sure that.
Speaker 1: Is, yeah, yeah, Yeah, okay that's WHAT i, mean like
like a lot of the, Dialogue LIKE i was pretty,
impressed like the same, lines same line, delivery even was
hitting really really. Good, yeah m hm. BAD i know
that that sequence got me really good as. Well and then,
UH i mean our main.
Speaker 2: Guy we haven't talked about him, yet but H Mason
thames As.
Speaker 1: HICCUP i feel like when the movie, started it's funny
that the opening, scene it's like one of my favorite
scenes of the franchise is the opening sequence because you
just Get hiccup narrating like introduction to the. World this Is,
burke these are the, dragons this is like what we
have to deal, with and it just kind of shows
off like all the different types of, dragons at least
at this point in the. Story AND i just think
it does such a great job at establishing the dynamic
of who The vikings, are who the dragons, are Who hiccup,
is and then the way that it ends is just
like so so, great where he's talking about Just stoic
and how fantastic he, is and it's, like oh, yeah
one more, thing he's my, dad and then that just
what sets us off on this dicey dynamic Between hiccup
and And. STOIC i must SAY i really wasn't a
fan of the live action. VERSION i think just because
it was the first scene of the. MOVIE i was
really stoked the score is hitting so, well and then
and then it just gets to our character Of hiccup
running around and like they don't really show any of
the dragons at this, point like they're just kind of zooming,
by and this is like the first minute of the,
movie AND i instantly just kind of get like a
little bit of a sour taste in my, mouth, like oh,
no they're, like oh, man this is gonna feel really,
Different like a huge part of these movies is the,
dragons and they're already trying to hide them. Here LIKE
i really wasn't a big fan of the opening of,
it but as we got underway with the overall, ADVENTURE
i definitely open it up to it, More and of
course we see more of the dragons later, on like
closer up, Scenes And i'm GLAD i didn't feel that
way throughout the whole, film because, YEAH i was definitely
a little bit off put just with that opening. Sequence
it just there was a couple other scenes in here
that like they're pretty much the same shot for shot
of the animated, version but it just didn't have the
same magic that the animated sequence. Had and IF i
were to pull, one LIKE i feel like it's the
first time that they're doing like the, trials uh not
no trials actually like dragon, practice like like When hiccup's.
THERE i don't know it just maybe it's just Because
i've seen those scenes so many times and the way
that like the animated character is just like moving with
their body, languid like it just something something about it
just makes me like that version a lot. More but
then there's just like scenes Between hiccup And, toothless like
when they're meeting And i'm just like almost in, tears
like it's just, like, wow they pulled it. Off like
it's like like shot for shot.
Speaker 2: This this is.
Speaker 1: Perfect live action, remake so AND i guess that's what
ties into WHAT i said earlier on the spoiler, resection
how like the best moments of this, movie it just
kind of like gets to the best moments of the animated.
Version SO i can never put this one above. It
BUT i didn't really THINK i was gonna be getting
that effect going into this movie. Anyways but, yeah No.
Hiccup but what do you think about? Him are our
lead here and you think he did a good.
Speaker 3: JOB i think he did a great. JOB i really
Like Jay, barroschelle and when it comes to this actor
taking on the mantle Of, HICCUP i think the two
have really kind of merged into. ONE i think it really.
Works and he, he LIKE i, said with everyone, else
he was checked in for. Sure he was there to.
DELIVER i needed a good. Job He we got to
see his little intro video two at the, start Alongside Tom. Cruise,
yeah he looks like a Little Tom.
Speaker 1: Cruise there's gonna be a video release when they're Making
How Trainer draggon, Too and it's Like.
Speaker 2: I'm on the phone every night with, producers.
Speaker 1: Directors he's, like fucking done he's just yelling at the
whole cast.
Speaker 2: And, crew.
Speaker 3: All these. Kids, Dragon i'm sick and tired of. It
you're done that he was on the just having fun
man making, movies big, adventure having a great. Time like he.
Speaker 2: Looks like, him like you, know fast forward like fifty plus.
Speaker 3: Years but he does play an old hiccup for.
Speaker 1: Sure hopefully his career is as good As Tom cruise
with less controversies in the long.
Speaker 3: Run, yes for. Sure, YEAH i think he. Did he
did a very very good, job really really happy with.
It AND i think too that his chemistry on screen
with every other character was really really. Good AND i
can see what you mean in some of those scenes
where it's JUST i guess the animated it's it's the
movements are. DIFFERENT i really liked when he was on
screen With toothless and everything he was, doing and when
he was like flying With. Toothless AND i think THE
cgi was. Great you mentioned this PRIOR i forgot to upon.
It the, dragons it didn't bother me too too much
their comparison to their counterparts and the animated, Version AND
i think that's largely due to just a lack there
of me being familiar with, Them SO i can see
why you like here if you've grown attached to that
animated look and how it's different in this version that
it can be a little bit of Like, AH i don't,
know but, YEAH i think as far AS cgi goes in,
General i'm really really happy with how the characters look
with the dragons, again like everything With hiccup and the
actor having to act out these scenes and move around
with with toothless there and bringing the fish and. EVERYTHING
i loved all of. That it just it looks, great
especially in these set locations because they film. This did
they film it In? IRELAND i, think, yeah just, Beautiful
oh my, gosh just. Beautiful. Yeah so, Yeah I'm i'm,
very very very impressed with how well of a job
that they did with that casting and and how how
well he did BECAUSE i don't Think i've seen him
in anything. Else i'm not sure if this is even
maybe his first. Project i'll do a quick look here.
Speaker 2: He was in The Black. Phone oh was he really Played?
FINNY i haven't seen that, movie SO i don't. KNOW
i don't know what that.
Speaker 3: Means holy. SMOKES i never never made that kind of. Connection,
wow you know.
Speaker 1: Who else is in this that you did not make the,
connection and neither DID. I Kate kennedy apparently Played. Flatchola
who Is kai from The halo?
Speaker 2: Series oh do you Remember kai and that's obsessed With?
CHIEF i don't remember her character at.
Speaker 1: All i'm assuming it's just one of The vikings that
was probably raiding that island With.
Speaker 3: STOIC i find her in cast in the cast, here but,
yeah she must. Be there are a few vikings that
they were highlighting and giving a little bit of extra
kind of like attention.
Speaker 2: To, yeah yeah they.
Speaker 1: Did it was kind Of i'm glad we didn't go
deep with those, storylines you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah that's not the Adventure i'm here.
Speaker 3: For no, Jeez, Louise, well al, three watch it just
to see Who kai, was because that's that's.
Speaker 1: Crazy, YEAH i wonder if she has any lines at. All, okay,
well maybe we'll take our next ad break here and
then we'll we'll keep unpacking this this, pony all, right
unpacking the pony? Here where do you want to?
Speaker 2: Go do you want to go? Next?
Speaker 3: Oh my, goodness what do we?
Speaker 2: Got we? Got we we touched upon our.
Speaker 1: Lead oh that was actually WHAT i wanted to add
On our on our lead something that you brought up With.
Speaker 2: Jay bearshaal is that his?
Speaker 1: NAME i really like this, actor but For jay's, VOICE
i just feel like His hiccup in my, mind and
like there's moments where this, Actor, Mason Mason, thames he
he he sounded Like jay with with like certain, moments
like whether he was talking about some certain certain. Dragons
SO i thought he did a Great hiccup. Voice but
there are still many scenes Where i'm, like, Oh i'm just,
missing Uh jay's voice in this specific, SCENE i just
feel like it's there's something about.
Speaker 2: It it's kind of like.
Speaker 1: Pitchy and whiny and in a in a certain, way
AND i just feel like that fits the character Of
hiccups so. Well so, yeah it's, again If i'm If
i'm picking at straws and really trying to nitpick, here
it would be uh still PREFERRING. J BUT i also
still prefer the animated movie over.
Speaker 3: This, yeah that's, fair that's. Fair there were, DEFINITELY i,
agree there were some moments where the two crossed over
and you wouldn't even think that it's a different voice
actor being, Jpshell SO i like.
Speaker 1: That, yeah, absolutely there was another scene THAT i because
like touch about what you we said about like THE.
CGI i think THE cgi actually looked really really impressive
for the most. Part And i'm very picky when it
comes to uh specifically like live action characters WITH cg
elements in. DAYLIGHT i just feel, like like the green,
screen it just looks so bad and it always always
has like a really high like, saturation like shiny effect to,
it AND i just feel like it stands out so.
Much and, honestly in this, MOVIE i feel LIKE i
didn't really have a lot of those, moments and there
is a lot of daylight scenes with dragons and with our,
characters and LIKE i was just really impressed that those
scenes weren't bothering me at. All there is nighttime sequences
which even look. Better the moment, though when it's When
hiccup is trying out like the saddle With toothless and
he has like his little like drawing diagram to like
show him like which which, movements and that's when he
falls off and Then toothless like grabs. Him that scene
went on like a little bit too long for, me
AND i just think it's because it had like a
lot of shaky cam effects going, On like it was
really just all over the, place especially when he falls.
Off it's like pretty much get in to that morbious
cement trunk level of just LIKE cgi stuff like rolling
around in the. Sky it is a long scene in the,
movie like in the animated version as, well SO i
understand why it went on as long as it, did
but that that one was just, Like, okay my eyes
are starting to get a little bit a little bit sore.
HERE i could imagine trying to tackle that scene and
in a THREE d movie theater. Experience but, yeah that
one bugged me a little. Bit BUT i mean even
like the big climax at the, END i still thought
looked really. Good even though we have a lot of
a lot of. Dragons it helps again that it is
more of a nighttime. Scene but AND i mean like
the big like alpha, DRAGON i thought that looked really
really impressive as.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah that whole fight scene with the catapults and, everything, like,
yeah that was that was really really. Awesome and the
big dragon was looks super cool AND i knew that
that was part of the story AND i was gonna
be coming into play question for, you is that this
that's not the same dragon that you SEE i think
in the second one a. BEWILDEBASTRAGON i think the bill
Older beast is like the main head, hauncho biggest, one
and so this is smaller.
Speaker 1: Version, yeah and this one they established that like the,
dragons like they just have this alpha and that's like
the what's kind of LEADING i guess this sector of
dragons because like all the ones that are kind of
raiding the land, here like they all report back to that.
Speaker 2: Alpha it's set.
Speaker 1: Up and then, yeah by the time we get to
the second, movie the Wilde beast is like it's almost
like a god like dragon like versus what this one.
Speaker 2: Is because.
Speaker 1: Like at the end Here toothless kind of becomes the
new alpha out of those.
Speaker 2: Two so, YEAH i think that's a little difference.
Speaker 1: There but, yeah because it takes a pretty explosive end
at the, end Like toothless sucks up his. Wings he's
got Like swiss cheese wings and then he like head
goes head first right into the size of all you,
know and then just like. EXPLODES i think this one's
pretty much dead on. Arrival but he was a big.
Speaker 3: Boy, Yeah, yeah that was gravity was working against this
this big, GUY i don't know how it could even
fly get off the.
Speaker 1: Ground that's just it was reminding me Of vagar From
house to The, dragons, Honestly.
Speaker 3: Yeah a little, bit a little.
Speaker 1: Bit, yeah that's just how big he is when he's
like On toothless's, ass like right on the.
Speaker 2: Tail. Yeah, YEAH i GUESS i was really.
Speaker 3: Talked, sorry, no, NO i was just gonna SAY i
was getting the vibes Like kaiju.
Speaker 2: Vibes oh, yeah always. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah we didn't really talk About toothless too. MUCH i
Thought toothless was just ten out of, ten like just
just really really great attention to detail that they had
for the character all of just, Yeah toothless is just
like a puppy dog in my, eyes and just like
nailed all those those isms.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: YEAH i feel like this is what makes these movies,
special is like that dynamic Between hiccup And, toothless and
like they are the core of the whole series in my.
Mind and it, like if if you don't hit that really,
well like if that isn't tugging on your heartstrings like
they're meeting and all like the like the scary modes
that those two characters, have then they kind of failed
in my, mind but, no they.
Speaker 2: Definitely pulled it.
Speaker 1: OFF i thought all that stuff was really really, fun
when he brings the fish and just all the moments
When astroid's, there and, Yeah toothless just just has a
bit of an attitude towards her and then of course
it kind of opens up to. Him but, yeah, NO
i Thought toothless was was really really well done and
nothing NOTHING i would throw in there like for critiques
on how to improve.
Speaker 2: IT i thought it. Was it was just. Perfect so, YEAH.
Speaker 3: I agree everything With toothless is. Fantastic really really loved
love that character very very. Much enjoy the connection that
they Share hiccup And. Toothless i'm curious and in retrospect
they think already know the answers to. This the fish
head eating scene is that from the animated one? Too? Yeah, okay,
OKAY i THINK i couldn't remember.
Speaker 1: That oh he like pukes the head, up yeah, yeah
and he gets A hiccup to eat.
Speaker 2: It, yeah he.
Speaker 1: Does it's way grosser in live, action like just the
the detail of, it like just the stuff on his. Lips,
oh it was it was along. Scene, yeah it probably
wasn't very, long but it felt, long which is how
gross it. Was the other scene THAT i know for
a fact they changed because she told me this, afterwards
WHICH i was JUST i gasped, audibly And i'm pretty
sure you did too in the in the in the
the movie, theater but with. Me but it's when they
they Take astro on the ride and then they like
just throw her like on this like fucking side of a,
pillar like like a stone pillar in like the middle
of the, ocean and she like it's only like they
land her like on the top where it's, safe like
they just throw her to the, side and she's like
holding off for dear, life and it's just.
Speaker 2: Holy, fuck, man like could have Murdered astroid right.
Speaker 1: There but, no in the animated show or sorry, movie
they drop her in a, tree so it's.
Speaker 2: A lot no kidding of a sequence.
Speaker 1: There and then she also told me another scene that
they didn't have in, this which is a, fun cute
scene and the animated is When astroid's like trying to
like trying to figure out what's going, On like it's
When hiccups really kicking ass In dragon training school and
she's like trying To, Yeah she's like what the hell's going,
on and there's many sequences of her like almost catching
like the two of them in the town and then
it's like like them just kind of like it's almost
like A Scooby doo like chase, scene like the way
that they're hiding from. Her and, YEAH i think it's
another one that just plays a lot better and, Animated
So i'm okay with that one staying in the animated.
Speaker 3: Sphere, yeah and they alluded to it a little, BIT i,
guess with her like chasing after him the one. Time.
Speaker 1: True, yeah, yeah. Absolutely there's another scene That i'm.
Speaker 2: Surprised i'm surprised.
Speaker 1: And glad that they had it in, here BUT i
still think it plays a lot better in the animated
movie is when they're fighting the big Bad alpha at
the end and you have snotlout like on the head
of the dragon and he's just like smacking him in
the eye and an astrod like flies in and it's
like now that's dragon slain and like just like like
totally like pumping him, up and he's just like as
if he sees like his one true, love you, know
gets hit By cuban's arrow and he just just Like
rose titted glasses and he just like kind of freezes.
Speaker 2: In the, moment and in like the live, ACTION i
feel like if you.
Speaker 1: Aren't familiar with that, scene like you wouldn't think that
this was anything because they don't like play music at.
All there's just like a quick moment of him like
freezing and then he gets hit and it's really, quick
AND i just think it plays a lot better than
the Animated but as soon as it happened on the,
screen it just like clicked and made me think of that.
Speaker 2: Moment so it made me, laugh even THOUGH i thought
it didn't.
Speaker 1: Play particularly the best BECAUSE I i think it would
have gone over a lot of people's heads if they
didn't have that scene already in their.
Speaker 2: Head, yeah, yeah that makes. SENSE i, mean what more
do we have to really unravel? HERE i was.
Speaker 3: Trying to, THINK i was trying to, think but like
it's it's pretty cut down the. MIDDLE i, mean it's
it's like we've talked, about it's it's pretty dang close
to what the original is in terms of just seeing copying.
Scene AND i don't think there's anything wrong with that
when you have all these other, Movies like you already
said there's below And stitch had a huge amount of
change to, it AND i can advocate for. That they
changed so much with that, movie and it's it's weird
because it's like they're trying to change it up and
make it for the. Better AND i THOUGHT i read
an article that was saying how with this movie they
were going to make it different from the animated. Version
But i'm very happy with what we got AND i
liked that it was exactly AS i expected it to
be and wanted to be because just seeing it in
live action is good enough for me because it's it's a, fresh,
new new, take, Right so.
Speaker 2: Mm, hmm.
Speaker 1: YEAH i MEAN i don't really have issues with like
properties changing things for the sense of like telling a
better version of their. STORY i think the best example
of that is like The lord of The rings, Novels
like there's certain storylines that they completely hack and slash
out for the, movies and it makes sense why they
would do, that because you don't have like thirty plus
hours to tell that, story, like like you have to
cut out some, storylines so that is totally. FINE i
THINK i would prefer the novel, version BUT i still
appreciate the version of what the movie, did just just
because the way that it tells that story with that
amount of time that we. Have AND i think in certain,
adaptations whether you're going from an animated movie to a
live action, movie like just for practicality, sake like it
probably makes sense to hack certain things. Out BUT i
felt like everything that they did here it made sense
why they may have hacked. Something AND i don't even
think it was really hacked. Out it's more of like
surgically removed because it was just so. Minor so, YEAH
i mean, clearly like we brought up Leveland. Stitch that's an.
Example it sounds like they did change some things in,
there so Alta wayne and see what that is WHEN
i actually see that.
Speaker 2: Movie have you seen that one? Yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah oh you. Did, okay we took our kid
to see that first time in theaters and the kid enjoyed.
It but for, us the, original the original is where it's,
at and it's just you're spending most of your time nitpicking,
like oh well they changed, that they changed. That they
did this, differently and it sucks BECAUSE i think at
its time when that movie came, out it's it's a different.
Demographics so they were hitting on jokes that you probably
wouldn't make, today and they did certain things that you
definitely don't see in the in the live action, version,
Right and it's just it's it's because times have kind
of changed and. Whatnot that being, said this movie was
twenty ten when it first came, out SO i feel
like that time, period LIKE i can't remember how that
squares up With. Shrek shrek was, before so the kind
of humor that we would have got was a little
bit more cultivated for this, era if that makes. Sense
SO i think when you have a movie that is
older and you try to change, it like Snow white for,
example that was definitely that's a very old movie and
they really wanted to put a fresh coat of paint
on that and change it and to change over from
what the original story was a little. Bit SO i
think the older and animated film goes back to when
they want to do a live at action, ADAPTATION i
think you run a higher. RISK i think the blueprint
for a successful animated to live adaptation is to pick
an animated film that is recent as shitty as that
sounds like kind Of Train Your dragon twenty, ten because
so FAR i would in my, OPINION i think this
is the best live action an adaptation That i've, seen so.
Speaker 2: Nice yeah, HMMM.
Speaker 1: I can't really think of all the ONES i have,
seen but none of them are like sticking out at
the top of my. Head so MAYBE i THINK i
would be inclined to agree with. You, yeah, SORRY.
Speaker 3: I have to do a letterbox list and just, yeah
SO i can see.
Speaker 2: It that's a good.
Speaker 1: IDEA i also feel like it helps, though, that like
this is already probably one of my most favorite animated,
stories so like the fact that that it's like so
similar to that makes me like this one a lot.
Speaker 2: More so there's definitely something to.
Speaker 1: That but, yeah, NO I i THINK i would have
to agree with. You it's my favorite one and uh,
yeah they just did a really good job with. IT
i guess my question to you, is do you want
to see a? Sequel do you want to see the
rest of the story told with these, uh with these
live action.
Speaker 3: Actors, this this first movie is told in a way
that you you don't really need to get that. Sequel,
Yeah so that mean SAID i for sure want. IT
i think they knocked out of the. PARK i would
love to get a. Sequel i'd love to get that third.
ONE i think it's. Great but at the end of the,
Day i'm not. COMPLAINING i want to go and Watch
How To Train Your dragon, too And i'm okay to
watch the animated one That i'm okay to watch the
third one too because it's GONNA i know it's continuing the,
story So i'm down for. That if we never get
the live action, Counterparts I'll i'll raise you and toss
a question your. Way would you want a sequel or
would you take Another DreamWorks project live action adaptation Like
Shreck Live action or something like.
Speaker 2: That, wow that's a good.
Speaker 1: Question, YEAH i mean there's a lot of a lot
of projects that could pull. FROM i THINK i would
go a, sequel. THOUGH i THINK i like the progression
of the characters Of hiccup And astrod and the rest
of the crew as the series goes, along AND i
honestly think like they might get better as they go.
Along maybe that's not such a crazy, take but it
just feels like the more these characters are maturing, NATURALLY
i feel like the actors that are portraying them will
just do a good job at kind of covering that
that progression so and showing. That so, yeah AND i
Mean i'm really intrigued also with the second. Movies, uh
just dragons and stuff and dynamics that they, introduced with
the lot of like watery type biomes that we're going
to basically like a wave of water type. Sequel so,
Yeah I'm i'm totally down first equel AND i THINK
i would prefer that over a new live.
Speaker 3: Action, Okay i'm just gonna name off a couple of
things in case you want to change your and change your.
Mind you've got a Wild. Robot could get a live
adaptation of, that even though it just came out last,
Year so that would be, yeah Shark, Tail, OKAY i
think pass on that one.
Speaker 2: TOO i don't like the idea of a live Action
Will Smith.
Speaker 3: Fish how About Mega, Mind.
Speaker 2: Mega, mind that's a good. One i'm Still i'm still
taking the.
Speaker 3: Sequel, OKAY i have A. Medagascar i'm still taking.
Speaker 2: It i'm still taking.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 3: Okay how about Have You Have You Flushed? AWAY i
JUST i couldn't see that. Live actually that's a hard
note for. ME i, mean we got THE b Movie
Ahs aliens in there, Too it is in, There, Yes,
yeah pass, also, yeah you, know WHEN i look at, it,
like there's a.
Speaker 2: Lot Mega mind would be a close.
Speaker 3: One Mega mind would be a close. One, YEAH i
guess there's the road To El. DORADO i would definitely take.
Speaker 1: That, actually oh, damn, yeah actually that's a good. ONE
i would still take the sequel, though.
Speaker 3: Still take the. Sequel, YEAH i think IT'S i don't.
KNOW i, mean as far as their projects, go It's
how To Train Your dragon is definitely a strong. One
i'm curious, Now i'm just gonna look and see what
the box office was for that first. One box office twenty.
Ten let's see. Here, okay so the first one had
one hundred and sixty five million budget and it had
a gross earnings of four hundred and ninety four. Million
so that's twenty. Ten so That's i'm Not travis isn't.
Here but is that a? Success to? Me it is
back fifteen. Years, yeah tenth highest grossing film of twenty.
Speaker 1: Ten there you, go big, time big. Juice, Yeah i'm
interested in what this one's gonna. Do, uh numbers, wise
we had it wasn't wasn't a full, theater but it
was also you, know not the actual day of release
but our theaters seem to be pretty into.
Speaker 2: It there are some.
Speaker 1: Applauses and stuff that other was YEAH i heard someone
next to, you or was a Applause and at the, end, oh.
Speaker 3: She always used to row the crowd of so whenever
seen a movie like. This, yeah she starts dropping her
applauses in? There did she.
Speaker 2: Ever trying to get them like riled? Up like if
they didn't like? It, like what the fuck was that?
Speaker 3: Shit she started the chicken jockey. Thing actually she brought
her fireworks in the real chicken all of. That that's all.
Speaker 1: Her Oh man to the fields number, Reading what do
you think about this?
Speaker 3: ONE i really just could not see any. CONS i
felt like everyone was, there they were bringing. It the
passion was. THERE i enjoyed this movie from start to.
Finish even THOUGH i knew how things were gonna go narratively,
SPEAKING i still had you, know gasps and like oh My,
god like oh this is. Crazy AND i was really
really encapsulated and mystified by the scenery and the set
pieces and everything they were. DOING i was totally on
board with, it And i'm so excited to rewatch this.
Movie and WHEN i looked over At Madison she's, like
this is a movie THAT i want to, UH i
want to own. It So i'm, like, Okay i'm happily
gonna buy. This let me find the, steelcase, like let's
let's do. It So i'm gonna give this a solid
ten out of. Ten this IS i Know sinners is
my number one of the year right, now BUT i
just need to kind of go back and just really
feel on both of. These i've been craving to Rewatch,
sinners and it's on streaming now or on vo d
and as soon as that drops on ON, Dvd i'm
gonna grab, that AND i THINK i need to rewatch
that just to, See, okay this is gonna be a
reaffirmation of my first for the year because so far
now it's it's between these. Two they're they're they're wabbling
back and. Forth so.
Speaker 1: Nice, Nice, yeah that's, UH i should have had you
go a. SECOND i really really enjoyed this. MOVIE i
think that the first movie is a ten out of,
ten AND i think this one is not quite to that.
Caliber SO i can't really give this one a ten
out of. TEN i Think i'm gonna go an eight
point seven and, five not quite a. Nine BUT I
i still think those like those toothless hiccup scenes like
those are like my favorite scenes in the animated and
and they still were like tugging at my heartstrings here
in the live, Action so that was goal ACHIEVED i
think in that. Regard, Uh and it's STILL i really
felt LIKE i was In. Burke they did a really
good job with. It Gerard butler was was great to. See,
uh hope to see him. Again and if we'd get the,
sequel very disappointing end credit. SCENE i can't believe we
stayed for.
Speaker 2: That that was that was.
Speaker 1: Crazy you GOT i don't scene that was in the? Movie, yeah,
yeah garbage.
Speaker 3: Just him like because he makes, enhancements, right so that's
what they're alluding. To BUT i don't. KNOW i feel
bad BECAUSE i said it out loud kind of because,
YEAH i want other people did not miss anything and
get some.
Speaker 1: Shape the guy behind, you what the fuck was That
you're like closing the door like, hey nobody, out nobody,
out wait for the end credit. Scene but, no this
is a really good. TIME i definitely recommend people seeing
this in. Theaters one theatrical experience and let us know
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