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Speaker 1: All right, folks, we are live on a Sunday night

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once again on the Big Fight Weekend YouTube channel. Not

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only that, but later in the evening overnight Sunday into Monday,

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we're also in podcasts work two for the price of

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one here on this edition of the Fight preak to

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Night Recap coming off of the weekend. I am merely

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the somewhat capable host TJ.

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Speaker 2: Reeves.

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Speaker 1: Hello to our insider, Big Dan Rayphiel. As we do

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this live on a Sunday, this has kind of been look,

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Keyshawn Davis ruined a lot of things for a lot

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of people. He ruined what our plan was on Saturday

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night to recap his main event on the top rank

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boxing show that never came off. We're gonna talk about that.

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We're gonna talk about the fights that did happen. Rayfael

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can't wait to talk about Fabi Owardley and Tim Burr

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with the Big Right Hand. That and the Sunday championship

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fights in Japan and Australia. A ton to recap, some

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news and a little more good to be with you,

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live my friend on a Sunday on the US page

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here this evening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all good. I mean, although I'm doing it

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the same way we always do it. I see you

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in the two box and we go through the show,

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that there's a lot of people watching us as we're

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doing it, that's a whole different bulgain. I am a

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chipper because I'm glad I did not waste my time

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of making the trip to Norfolk, which I considered. I

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live about three and a half hours nor could have

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taken the train, could have taken the drive, and I

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decided against it because of all the fights that were

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on Sunday. Also, and I'm glad that I didn't waste

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my time because what an absolute disaster.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll get into that disaster coming up again.

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For the podcast audience, we're doing this live, but you're

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hearing us at the normal time. Thank you for finding us.

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Make sure you're following and subscribing on podcasts. If you're

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seeing us through Dan's social media promotion, through his different outlets,

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et cetera. If you're seeing us for the first time,

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where you been. But also there's a podcast, go find

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it out all the podcast outlets.

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Speaker 2: It's the Fight Freaks Unit recap that we're doing here.

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Speaker 1: Applespreaker, Spotify, it's the Big Fight Weekend podcast feed. And

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as I have here for the video audience, because I'll

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keep making reference the video audience can see us blah

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blah blah. Make sure to help us out on this channel.

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We're live tonight. We'll take some comments here. It a

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little bit as we go through the roll call. So

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that's different from the podcast when it's just you and me.

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We can have audience interaction, live interaction tonight, so let's

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do that as well. All right, So let's get into

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what happened after you and I left the bet Us

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Boxing show, which we do on their outlets and their platform.

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At that point, we knew Keyshawn Davis had badly missed weight.

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Our belief was they were going to try try being

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the key word to work out keeping the main event

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intact even though Davis was being stripped of his WBO

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lightweight title. That blew up Friday afternoon and into Friday night.

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Speaker 2: You did some reporting. Excellent job.

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Speaker 1: I prop you for getting the parties involved, including Samson Lukowitz,

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the promoter for Edwin Delos Santos to give you some

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comments about what went on, so give the audience a

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recap here of how and why this blew up. And frankly,

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I will just say at the outset, I was surprised

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they didn't pull the whole show. They kept the whole

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show together. Go into why on that?

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Speaker 3: So go ahead, I'm not surprised they didn't pull the show.

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That's not Top Rank style. Everybody else was there. Everything

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else was in place, and you don't penalize an entire

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card worth of people that have done their jobs and

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prepared diligently made the wait. There are still a lot

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of people that bought tickets that did not return their tickets.

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They had sold over ten thousand, they said on the broadcast.

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I also heard from Top Rank only about two thousand

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return their tickets. So you still go forward and you

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work out the particulars later. You don't penalize and Abdulla

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is a knucklehead. So I'm glad the show went on.

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In terms of what happened, Samson Lukawitz, who was the

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promoter of Edwin Delos Santos and Bob Aram, the promoter

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of Kishon Davis. Neither one of them, you know, both

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of them were supportive of the fight not happening. They

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were fine with it. Aaron was ticked off. He says,

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you know, if it was one or two pounds over,

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one or two pounds, you know, we would have worked

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it out. Four pounds plus. You know, he understood that

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was ridiculous. And as he said to me, you know,

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Castillo missing weight for a lightweight champion to fight twice

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on fights that Bob promoted that were much bigger deals

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than Keishaan Davis's first title defense. So he understood, and

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Samson's perspective was they were not unwilling to make the deal,

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which would have required a penalty in terms of money,

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as well as a morning of the fight weight check

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where he wouldn't have been able to have put on

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more than ten pounds without additional penalties. But the way

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he explained it was during the weigh in, before he

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actually stepped on this scale, he was backstage and he

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saw He said to me that he saw Keishan dave

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this plane around and smiling and dancing and his perspective,

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and he made the point, as a guy that's been

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in this business over thirty years, if you're struggling to

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make the weight and you're really hurting, you're not backstage

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before you stand on the scale dancing and singing. And

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then when he touched him on the back and he

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felt that there was you know that there they just

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could tell that that he hadn't really tried, because you know,

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there was no Uh, he didn't feel the way you

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would feel if you were really struggling to lose weight.

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And UH, at that point, while they discussed this financial parameters,

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he said, he and and Edwin de Loos's trainer, UH decided,

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you know what, it's in our fighters' best interest in

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the long term not to do this fight. And as

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he made the point again, we're not going to risk

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our fighters' health for money. And it's hard to blame them,

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and it's unfortunate because his guy hadn't fought for you know,

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almost two years. Uh. And you know, we'll see if

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they work out a situation where they'll receive the person

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because he did his job. Hopefully, they'll get that maybe

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at least part of it. I think that's still as

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Top Rank and Samson said, they're talking about it, but

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it's it's such a bad reflection on Keishawan. Amen, terrible,

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just absolutely so great job.

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Speaker 1: Great job betting that that comment from Samson Lukewitz, and

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I thought it really stood out that it almost seemed

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to me that they knew this a couple of days before, obviously,

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and they were trying to get one over here where

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he was going to go ahead and fight at a

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real advantage of not having weight cut and try to

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even you know, get down close to one point thirty

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Speaker 3: They could have done Keishawan one hundred percent. If you're

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that much over and you've been in a boxing lifestyle

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for so many years, you know at a certain point

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you're not making the weight. So at the very least

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he could have told Top Rank, they could have let

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Samson know ahead of time, Hey, here's the situation, and

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at that point, deal Santos doesn't have to continue to

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deplete himself to get the thirty five, and even if

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it turns out to be a non title fight, maybe

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they still do the bout and instead of being one

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thirty five. They do it at you know, one thirty

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everybody still puts on a show and gets paid blah

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blah blah. And instead he kept it a secret. And

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when he showed you look see the look on De

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Los Santo's face when Kishan Davis got on the scale

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and they shouted out the weight, he was like, what

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the hell's going on here?

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Speaker 1: I mean, is the look on your face when I

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told you live on the bet Us Show? And I

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even put the photo up a big dan with the

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hand on the head of what are we doing here?

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It's just five pounds off of plate? Okay, So I'm

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just gonna pose one more thing. I'm not trying to

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cause trouble. But isn't this a legitimate point here? Does

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this call into question Keishaan Davis's future with top rank

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in that that's not a knee jerk thing. He had

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a positive marijuana test a couple of fights ago. They

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have built him up. He is now stripped of the

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title that he had with these antics in some way,

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and you have a lot of insight jeopardize him with

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top rank or is that too reactionary off the weekend,

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including we didn't even cover the skirmish in the bowels

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of the scope the arena in Norfolk gets involved in

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like a non sanctioned bout in the hallway. Does this

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call into question him with Top Rank No.

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Speaker 3: No. First of all, at the very least he could

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have made the way active professional had a fight instead

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of fighting in the bowels of the arena and defended

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his world title and made a seven figure payday, instead

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of doing the nonsense that we'll get to and getting

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kicked out of the arena. Top Rank is not going

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to release him at the worst case scenario, they'll sit

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him down for a while. But he's still a valuable

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a valuable commodity. He's still a quality fighter, despite the

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emotion of what happened over the weekend, and they have

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plenty of time left on their deal with him. They're

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not gonna cut him. They're gonna they're gonna work it

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out with him, and you know, talent wins out and

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he can still fight. They'll give him another chance. They'll

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have a stern talking to with him, I'm sure him

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and his management and his team, and they'll move him

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up as Bob Aaron said to me, we'll move him

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up to one forty. But that's that's the The knee

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jerk reaction that you're just gonna release the guy is

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just stupidity. I just that's not even in the realm

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of possibility. When he fights next, that's up in the

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air and under what circumstances and for what money. Obviously

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that's all gonna be discussed and negotiated. But you do

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not take a supremely talented young man like that. Whatever

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the issues are. He didn't he didn't kill somebody, he

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didn't go to prison. He fucked up bad, but you

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know he's gonna take some heat for it, obviously, but

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you're not just gonna release him from the contract.

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Speaker 1: And so pick up on the incident with now hear

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Alexander the fighting the fighters.

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Speaker 2: Hear Albright Allbright, I'm sorry to hear Albright. I believe

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Speaker 1: Alexander is a player for the Green Bay Packers, and

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he made the show tonight. But in any event, they

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hear Albright is the fighter that key Sean Davis defeated

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uh and then had the positive marijuana test, and then

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Albright beat one of Davis's brothers on the undercard and

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then pick up what what was going on.

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Speaker 2: We saw the video that ESPN showed.

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Speaker 3: There's two incidents, TJ. You got to get it right

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after Albright, who, as you mentioned, had had the close

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fight with Keishawan, and then it became a win for

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Kishon that became in the no contest because of the

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positive marijuana test. Here Albright had not fought since that

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baut which was at the end of twenty twenty three.

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For this event, they matched him. They moved here. Albright

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moved up from one thirty five to one, and he

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fought Kishan's older brother Kelvin Davis, who was undefeated going

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into the fight. And now Here Albright won the fight,

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and as matter of fact, the judges called it a

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majority decision. One of the judges had the audacity to

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give uh a score of ninety five to ninety five,

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which was ridiculous. That was an eight to two, seven

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to three kind of fight. At worst. There's zero chance

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that you can find five rounds in any universe to

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give to Kelvin Davis in the fight. But be that

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as it made. The other two judges properly scored the

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fight in favor of Albright who didn't get fucked on

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the hometown decision in Norfolk. And okay, so Calvin took

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his loss. I mean, you know, he fought, you know,

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he tried. It wasn't like it was a terrible fight

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or anything. They both gave it their effort and one

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guy wins, one guy loses. Okay, fine, So now the

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fight's over and Albright is back in his dressing room

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and he did an interview during part of the undercard

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after that before the main event with Mark Kriegel from ESPN.

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an additional big, giant lump on his eye or head

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that wasn't there when he was standing there getting the

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scores ready. So he said to Kriegel that Keishawn Davis

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and Keishaan's younger brother, he's the middle of the three.

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second round knockout on you know, the further down portion

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of the preliminaries. They came to his dressing room and

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basically attacked him and got up in his face and

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headbutted him and and you know, had to have the

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teams break them up. Just complete nonsense. They you know,

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they attacked the guy after he won a hard fought

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fight with with their brother. I'm not sure what they

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accomplished with that, And so that's a second negativity for

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the Davis family and what has been a complete meltdown

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of a weekend. And so there's no video of that incident.

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I was told by others from top Rank who I

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spoke to after the show that that absolutely what Albright

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said is accurate, that that incident did happen. So he's

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not making it up and he has the extra lump

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on his head to show it. After that happened, Albright's

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brother who was there and Kishan get into it in

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the bowels of the arena and there was a giant

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melee and the Norfolk Police Department was there to break

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it up. That's what he has video of. Furthermore, you

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got Kishan, who whose infant son was born during his

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training camp for his previous fight, is sitting in stroller,

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unattended while people are all over the place. Very dangerous

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for a toddler, an infant. Stupid that just and then

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and then the cops kicked him out of the arena.

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Should have arrested the motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm just can I can I put it

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up there one more time. I'm not trying to egg

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Speaker 3: Hmmm, I don't know, all right, by stand by, I

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know what you said, but there's no chance they released it,

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had no chance.

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Speaker 1: All right, So all of that happened. And is there

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any chance that they hear Albright might file assault charges

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because that has nothing to do with going into the ring.

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I don't know what he said. I didn't see that

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part about whether they're just going to let that part go.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question. I mean, he obviously would have

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some type of grounds for what he said, was i mean,

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his his assault charge possibility. Notwithstanding, you know, he made

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the point, I'd like a rematch with Keshan Davis. We

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can settle like men in the ring, not like punks

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in the back of a in a dressing room, you know,

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in an arena. We'll settle in the ring in front

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of all the fans. And the reality is now here.

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Allbright all, he did not win against Kishon in that fight.

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Granted a tampe, they became an o contest that was

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probably not probably that was by far the most competitive

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fight that Kishon Davis has had in his young professional career.

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So I suppose that's a conceivable thing later down the road.

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But for the meantime, you have Kishon Davis missing weight,

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dramatically not telling anybody, blowing the fight, missing his payday,

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his brother loses, they attack the winner of the fight,

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and then him and the brother of the guy that

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they attack get into it in the arena like it's

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just a cascading kile of shit for the.

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Speaker 2: Davis can't make this stuff up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Abdullah Mason did score a TKO victory in

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what turned out to be the elevated main event. Just

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say something about him real quick, and does he factor

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in summer? Theorizing that if there's a vacant WBO title

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and Dello Santos is involved, that Abdullah Mason might be

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the name that slides in. I have no idea about

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any of that, but people are theorizing that what about

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how Mason looks? Say something about that real quick. In

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the recap mode, Well, Mason looked really good. I mean,

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you know, he acted like a professional. He went in

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there and he did his job. Whether he was in

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the co feature as he originally was supposed to be

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or he was, you know, in the elevated main event

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that was made because of what happened with the other

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fight being canceled. And he went in there and he

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did his job, and he looked strong doing He took

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apart Jeremiah Nakatia stopped him in the sixth round.

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Speaker 3: The fight was stacked. It was stopped, but it was

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it was in the fifth round, but it was one

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second into the round because they had called the time

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out to examine him in the dull ranks. So really

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he worked him over through the four rounds and then

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it got stopped one second in to number five. But

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it was a dominating performance. You know, he had a

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bad cut in. Akatia told the doctor when they had

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called time out to check him out, that he couldn't

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couldn't really see out of the eye. Anytime a fighter

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says that, automatically, the fight's going to be stopped. The

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doctor said, So referee stopped the fight and Mason moves on,

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and you know, he's a good looking prospect. He continues

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to rise the ranks. He's now in nineteen. To know

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your point about fighting de los Santos of the vacant

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title that won't happen. Abdulla Mason is number two in

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the WBO rankings. UK named Sam Noakes, who was undefeated,

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as number one. The WBO probably in the next few

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days will order that mandatory fight, and when Abdullah Mason

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was questioned about the possibility of that match being his

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next fight, he said, absolutely, I'm interested. Mark Kriegel asked him,

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you know, if it had to be the case, would

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you go to England to fight him? He said, we know,

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we'll do whatever it takes to make the fight. He

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wants a title shot, I'm not sure he necessarily deserves

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it at this point, or Noakes, because they haven't really

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fought that level. But it's boxing today. You know, for

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whatever it's worth, they are ranked in those organizations, and

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you know, at least at least if it's Abdulla Mason

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versus Noakes, there are two guys who are young, who

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are around the same level of experience in terms of

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their pro number of fights, and you know, bringing on it.

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You know, Kishan didn't want to be champed anymore. But

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what I found more disrespectful, by the way, when Keisha

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made his comments was about how well I was going

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to move up to one forty after this fight. Anyway, Well,

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now you go down. You've won your title, fine, but

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you never defended it and you acted like a punk

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on the way out of lightweight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I need to say something too,

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because I'm I'm big on this. I need to correct

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the fact that we were live on the bet US

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show and there was a lot going on in our

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final ten minutes of that live show on Friday. So

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during one part of you and I going back and

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forth with the breaking news, I was trying my best

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to listen to Keishawn Davis's off the cuff interview with

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ESPN Plus's Christina Poncher on the Top Rank broadcast on

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social media and on YouTube of the of the weigh in,

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and what he said was I outgrew it. He said,

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I outgrew it, meaning the weight one thirty five. I

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thought he had said I blew it. To this moment,

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I don't know that he's ever really apologized at all.

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Speaker 2: And this goes back to what I was saying. And

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then we're gonna wrap up and move on.

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Speaker 1: I think they were he was trying to get one

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over here on I'm not gonna cut the weight.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go hard.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna still do the fight because I'm the main

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event drawing card and I just won't strain myself to

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make one thirty five. So my attitude is he didn't

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own it. Friday, I made a mistake of portraying that

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he did own it to a degree, and so he

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was admitting I outgrew the weight, which means they knew,

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they knew notast weight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he j that's not an admission, that's a lie

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because he made the weight no problem, not even if

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he had a little problem. He's still made it in

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February well, as Timothy Bradley pointed out, he's looked his

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best he's ever looked in his last few fights. And

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you know you didn't want to make the weight and

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when you're four listen, And I'm Timothy Bradley's an expert

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on that because he made weight as a professional boxer, champion,

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Hall of Famer for a long time. I've been around

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weigh ins and boxing matches for twenty some years, and

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I can if you are It's like Aaron said, if

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you're a pound over it socks and it's unfortunate shit

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like that happens. Four point three pounds is not I

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outgrew the weight. Four point three pounds is I don't

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give a fuck.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to make the weight, and there's a difference.

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There's a distinction. All right, we gave that a bunch.

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Speaker 1: We've got people commenting real quick, and again for the

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podcast audience, I say again, we were doing this live

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on Sunday night before it went out on pod, so

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we're catering exclusively to the YouTube audience right now in

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the live show. Pod audience is hearing it as normal

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on Apple, Spreaker, Spotify, on the Big Fight Weekend podcast feed.

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But the commenters get to get in here real quick,

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and uh, let's see. Adam says, glad to see you

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guys are back live on the show.

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Speaker 2: I subscribe. Thank you, Adam, good stuff with that.

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Speaker 1: Julio watching says thank you for being live, and then

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later says, hey, Dan, after the altercation, do you think

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to hear Albright and Keishaan Davis run it back with

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a rematch?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what he wanted to do. I mean, whether

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that happens or not, I mean who that knows, But

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you know what if Keishan's gonna go to one forty

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when he eventually does fight. I mean, it's a little

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bit crazy, but boxing this is the way that fights

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get made to create some enter you know, some interest

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from the public. And I'm sure that for and otherwise

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sort of like whatever fight because of what occurred. Yeah,

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the some interest. So if he's not, he's not gonna

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probably get a championship type fight in his first fight

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at one forty. And meanwhile, nahre just moved up to

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one forty and beat the brother, so you got revenge

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of the brother. We've seen that angle, you know, with

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the klitch goes for example, and we also have the

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supposed altercation in the dressing room. So you know, it's

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unfortunate that you reward Kishan for that, but Albright kind

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of deserves a reward. He beat the brother and he

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put up with the nonsense, So why.

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Speaker 2: Not all right?

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Speaker 1: By the way, our buddy Gail, the pr pro from

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San Diego says, yes, catching the show live. She's West coast,

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so it's like early late afternoon for her. She further said, Hey, TJ,

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you aren't the only one with the impression. Kishawn never

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intended to make the way and Dan, you were just

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saying that, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, that's what That's what Samson Lucawitz said, That's what

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what it looks like. I mean, it's you don't gotta

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be or you don't got to spend a lifetime in

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boxing to know. Again, I'm gonna reiterate, if you're four

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point three pounds over there, probably wasn't a concerted effort

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when it was only a couple of months ago you

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made the way and won the world zero.

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Speaker 1: He missed it, as I like to say, three exits

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back on the highway on the Interstate. By the way,

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our buddy jin Rude Junior thirty three, who's in our

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US live chat and commenting all the time, is watching

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us tonight on YouTube. Thank you jin Rud Junior. He says,

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I lost a crap ton of respect for Keyshawn Davis.

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So did a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: He blew up his reputation TJ like in.

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Speaker 1: One weekend, in one weekend, terrible. All right, let's move on.

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What a thrilling. In to the Queensbury his own main

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event Saturday afternoon US time, Saturday night in Ipswich, England,

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Justice Cooney was well on his way to making me

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look like a genius Dan Rayphael and then we were

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reminded why it's boxing, Why why Boom goes to Dynamite Baby,

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Why there's a twenty one point touchdown pass that the

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NFL doesn't have, There's an eight run home run that

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boxing doesn't have, there's a nine point shot that basketball

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doesn't have. That is a one punch ko And there

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it was from Fabio Wardley wild ending to a fight

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that he was being dominated in Hooney. The Australian was

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dominating the fight. But boxing is just different. It is

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just different.

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Speaker 3: It was a It was an entertaining fight for sure,

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and as we discussed in the pre fight, what did

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you feel like was gonna be the reason for the

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guy to win? Was at Fabia Wardley, with the tremendous

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punching power, was knocking everybody out. Although he had no

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amateur background, he had a handful of blue white collar

473
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,680
type fights and was you know, started from nothing basically

474
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,000
in terms of his boxing. Who had a few more

475
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,359
pro fights in Hohony. But Hooni, even though he had

476
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,400
fewer fights as a professional, was a stellar prodigy like amateur,

477
00:22:42,519 --> 00:22:45,240
was fighting the absolute elites in the world that aid,

478
00:22:45,319 --> 00:22:47,759
you know, as a late teenager into his early twenties,

479
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and was very fast with his feet, great handspeed, not

480
00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:53,920
as big of a puncher obviously as Wordly, but had

481
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,799
tremendous amateur pedigree. And the pedigree was showing and the

482
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skills were showing in that hand speeded vantage and foot

483
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,319
speed advantage. Although that was showing because as you said,

484
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,759
he was dominating the fight. Now, if you look at

485
00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:08,359
the score cards before Wordley came through with that massive

486
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,799
right hand to score the knockout, as I look at

487
00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:12,480
the scores here, he was ahead eighty nine eighty two

488
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,039
on two score cards and eighty eight to eighty three

489
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,640
on the third, and it was he was cruising to

490
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,119
what was going to apparently be a decision victory. And

491
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in the tenth round, as he said in the post fight,

492
00:23:24,839 --> 00:23:27,240
as the commentator said, as anybody that's watched boxing where

493
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,599
there's a big, one punch kind of knockout like that,

494
00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:32,160
you know, especially in a heavyweight division, but really in

495
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,759
any division, if you are not locked in every single

496
00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:36,759
second of the round, it only takes one punch, and

497
00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:40,759
heavyweights in particular, and he kind of led up a

498
00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:43,000
little bit led his guard down. They were both throwing

499
00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:46,359
right hands at the same time, and although Hooney is

500
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,759
the better fighter in terms of the hand speed, Wardley

501
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,640
had I guess a little bit the longer reach, and

502
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,279
his right hand hit the target before Honys a.

503
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,559
Speaker 1: Literal example of he beat him to the punch with

504
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the right on the smoosh, right on the chin, the

505
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,599
jaw and the face.

506
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: As my good pal and former longtime ESPN colleague Teddy

507
00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:12,720
Teddy Alys would say, he had the delivery system. You know,

508
00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:14,200
you can have all the power in the world, but

509
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,640
if you don't have a way to deliver it, it

510
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,079
doesn't matter. You have a missile sitting in your you know,

511
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,519
in your yard, you don't have a launcher, it doesn't different.

512
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,440
But Wardley had the delivery system and he landed the

513
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,720
shot right on the button, knocked him flat on his

514
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:29,279
rear end, you know, on his back, and he was

515
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,519
he was went to his knees. Someone suggested it was

516
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:34,200
a longer count if you time it out, it was

517
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,359
basically exactly ten seconds. Uh, and it's still it's still

518
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,240
a judgment call by the ref Summer a tick slower, summer,

519
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:42,799
a tick faster. There was nothing untwored about this. In

520
00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:46,200
my opinion, Whooney did not complain. He did not beat

521
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,920
the count that John Latham, the referee issued, and he

522
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,240
was counted out and he was a class act. Afterwards,

523
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,759
he gave Wordy good credit. Uh you know, I'm sure

524
00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:56,880
he's brutally disappointed because it was a huge opportunity. Wordly,

525
00:24:57,319 --> 00:25:00,799
uh you know, gets a dramatic knockout in the in

526
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:03,480
front of a hometown crowd that was some twenty thousand

527
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,519
that they reported on the the zone.

528
00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:09,039
Speaker 1: The hometown crowd that Hooney had silenced for about six

529
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,880
or seven rounds until boom.

530
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: And for what it's worth, and it is worth something

531
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,319
because it will help him make bigger purses. He does

532
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,680
win the vacant WBA interim heavyweight title, puts him in

533
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,559
good position. As Frank Warren said Wardley, there's as Frank

534
00:25:24,599 --> 00:25:26,720
and Wardley said, he has a child on the way

535
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:28,759
that's due to be born like in any day now.

536
00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:31,640
So he'll sit back, He'll take a little break after

537
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,599
a tough fight. He'll watch how things play out in

538
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,920
terms of what's going to happen with Dubois and Usick

539
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000
and maybe some other heavyweight fights before they reconvene for

540
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,839
what they will look for in the next bout. But

541
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,039
clearly he's in a great position right now. He's super exciting,

542
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:50,200
he's entertaining, He's got a very interesting and and I

543
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:53,480
like his personality. He's really well spoken and he makes

544
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:55,799
no bones about it. He goes I'm not a skill guy,

545
00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:59,160
he said in his post interview. I'm not usick, I'm

546
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,960
not Hooney. I don't have those types of skills. But

547
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:04,200
I know how to win fights. And he's got the

548
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,440
power to do it. And he'll knock out any heavyweight

549
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,000
in boxing if he lands that right hand, apparently, and

550
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:10,880
that's the way it looks to me. And you know,

551
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,680
he's scored another good quality win. And uh, you know

552
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,839
what I'll tell you. I think you know Cooney's gonna,

553
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,599
you know, be dogged by the fact that people say

554
00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:19,559
you don't have a great chin. He had a reputation

555
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,119
to maybe not have the best chin, even though he'd

556
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,279
never been stopped until that fight. But uh, if he

557
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:28,559
doesn't take the loss too hard, he can still come

558
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:30,319
back and be a good heavyweight. He's only twenty six

559
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,640
years old. He's got a loss that was one punch. Otherwise,

560
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,200
he's dominated a good fighter. He's got really really good

561
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,240
skills and you know, hopefully, you know, I actually think

562
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:43,599
despite the knockout, he may have elevated himself a little

563
00:26:43,599 --> 00:26:46,160
bit in his defeat because he showed his skills in

564
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,559
the world.

565
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:48,799
Speaker 1: He looked great for a lot of that fight. Now

566
00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:51,079
you can question punching power, but he landed. He had

567
00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:54,480
almost a fifty accuracy on power punches through the first

568
00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:56,799
nine rounds before getting hit with that big.

569
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 3: Daniel Wardley is not going to ever be confused with

570
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,000
the Willie PEPs and Floyd mayweathers well right defensively.

571
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: And you wonder at the highest levels if he even

572
00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:08,279
has a chance because he was getting hit like latel

573
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,359
Richie all night long.

574
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: Baby, But he landed a big punch that mattered. And

575
00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:16,000
so there you go on that. By the way, again,

576
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:16,960
thank you for finding us.

577
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Speaker 3: Dan.

578
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Speaker 1: Go ahead and hit retweet, hit the repost on the

579
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social media again for the audience to find us here tonight.

580
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If you're just joining us live as Dan is promoting,

581
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maybe you're watching the show back later on in the evening.

582
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We did this live the Fight Freaks Unit Recap live

583
00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:36,480
on YouTube. The podcast audience is hearing it as the

584
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recap pod that it normally is Sunday night into Monday,

585
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,680
but we're doing this live on YouTube tonight and we

586
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,920
want many more people to join in. Some more people

587
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,400
are commenting. We're going to go through the other two

588
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:49,519
fight cards and we'll maybe get to a couple of

589
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,400
other comments. Dan will have thoughts on the International Boxing

590
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,839
Hall of Fame induction ceremony on this Sunday afternoon that

591
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,920
included Manny Pacquiao as well as others stand by for that.

592
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,599
So moving a long off of Saturday, we go to

593
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Sunday morning US times. Sunday night in Tokyo. Junto Nakatani

594
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:11,119
does become the unified bantamweight champ by virtue of a

595
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t KO.

596
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: Over his opponent who had the gnarly right eye. Again.

597
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,519
In watching this, I actually watched it live.

598
00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: I was up Sunday, and they fought late enough on

599
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:28,200
Sunday morning Eastern time where I was watching live, and

600
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,000
he just battered the opponent, especially with the left hand

601
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:34,680
that I started to swell at the end of the

602
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,920
fourth round. It was swelling badly in the fifth round.

603
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,880
By the by the sixth round, he could no longer

604
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,599
see out of it. I was I was surprised at

605
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:44,240
the referee. Maybe they did call the doctor over once

606
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:47,039
to look at it as it was swelling. So it's

607
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:49,599
a t KO win and Nakatani has done his part

608
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:52,039
to set himself up for a mega matchup with the

609
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:54,440
Monster nay Oh. Yeah in Away down the Road, Dan,

610
00:28:54,519 --> 00:28:56,960
give more thoughts on what you saw out of Knakatani's

611
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,400
Sunday win.

612
00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that fight would knock that fight between Knaka and

613
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:02,680
in a way, he reiterated in his post fight interview,

614
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,559
that's what he wants. He basically said in Japanese translate,

615
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:08,000
he says, I'm gonna be there soon and then go

616
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,359
it up to Junior Feeduy. You know, please wait for me,

617
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,599
is what he's saying to in a way. Look, they

618
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,079
they back in April, they were both attending at the

619
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,440
Japanese Boxing Commission's annual Awards gala and in a way

620
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,920
called him out and said we'll fight by the end

621
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,079
of twenty twenty six. It's been well reported even before

622
00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:28,160
that that their teams have discussed that fight. You know,

623
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:30,559
Top Rank, which is the co promoter for Nakatani, they've

624
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:33,359
talked about doing that fight at the Tokyo don't. It's

625
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,119
a matter of time. They got to keep winning because

626
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:36,839
they're not going to fight each other next so it's

627
00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:38,599
going to be a little bit of time, and you know,

628
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,519
tune up fights to have a way of disturbing things,

629
00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:45,279
as we've seen in time. But right now, in a way,

630
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:48,359
he's booked for September fourteenth against Zach Madalia. That's a

631
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,440
mandatory that's long overdue. He's talked about at the end

632
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,960
of this year to go to Saudi Arabia and fight

633
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:56,720
for on a read season card. He's got a sponsorship

634
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,000
deal with Turkey Al Chic and that outfit. And meanwhile,

635
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:02,440
you gotta figure it's not like because here he fought

636
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,960
here in the in the early part of June, that

637
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,480
suddenly Knakatani's not going to fight for the rest of

638
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,000
the year. So I suspect in a way we'll go

639
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:11,519
through and have it. You know, he's got to win.

640
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:13,359
But he gets the two fights and takes care of

641
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:16,279
his business and Nakatani fights at least once more this year.

642
00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:20,400
Then sometime, you know, in the early part of two

643
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,559
thousand and twenty six, you know they'll set that big

644
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:25,400
mega fight up and we will see that and whether

645
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,559
it's at junior featherweight, I hopefully will be. Maybe it'll

646
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:30,839
be at featherweight, but the point is that fight is

647
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:33,599
such a great matchup. Hopefully they'll get there. In terms

648
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,599
of the way Nakatani took care of the business against Nishida,

649
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,039
who was undefeated but did not have the kind of

650
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,839
resume or experience as a professional that nakatanias who's you know,

651
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:47,440
got way more professional fights. He's now thirty one and

652
00:30:47,519 --> 00:30:50,039
ohero with twenty four knockouts. And if you're a person

653
00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:53,160
out there that dabbles and pound for pound lists, you

654
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,359
better damn well have a place for Junto Nakatani somewhere

655
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,119
at the very least on a lower portion of that list.

656
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,240
He's a tremendous fight. He's got great speed, he's got

657
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,119
great power, he's got a good IQ. He's got a

658
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:06,440
great team behind him in terms of his promotion and

659
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:09,240
his management and his and his trainer Rudy Hernandez did

660
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:13,759
a tremendous shot and he he he he liked to engage.

661
00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:15,960
He's a good boxer, but you can just watch the

662
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:18,880
way he fights. He enjoys the combat. He liked it

663
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,079
when he blew up the eye. He was pounding on that.

664
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,519
I yes, Nishida just who gave a great effort, showed

665
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:27,200
a lot of heart stuck in there, landed his own

666
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,039
good shots, a lot of good right hooks there both

667
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:29,640
South was.

668
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,359
Speaker 1: Still, by the way, was still trying to come forward

669
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:34,000
in the fifth round. In the sixth round with a

670
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,960
busted right eye that he couldn't really see out of.

671
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: Went down to the body, you know, but really everything

672
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,720
once the eye started as swell, it felt like everything

673
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,920
in the fight changed because Nakatani continued to land heavy.

674
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,079
He's the bigger puncher in my estimation, if you just

675
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:48,599
look at the knockout percentages. You know, Nahita only had

676
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:51,319
two knockouts and ten wins coming into the fight. But

677
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:54,440
he looked pretty strong in the match, and once the

678
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,559
eye was closed, it was sort of inevitable. You mentioned

679
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:58,880
in the in the in the round before the fight ended,

680
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,799
or in that in that round before they stopped it.

681
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,880
In the in the corner he did the thereft did

682
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,440
call a timeout and take him to the doctor again

683
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,640
him about a five second eye test. Can you see

684
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:10,799
and let the fight go. There's only about twenty thirty

685
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:14,480
seconds left at that point, and look, that's what happens.

686
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880
And it was not just the eye that was the

687
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,119
cause for the stoppage. Apparently he also had a dislocated shoulder.

688
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:22,200
It was also a part of the reason for the

689
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,799
fight to end. So he had all kinds of physical problems.

690
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,200
He gave a great effort. But Nakatani. Look, ever since

691
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,240
he went to the bandonweight division. Remember he's now a

692
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,319
champion in three weight classes. He won his first title

693
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,960
as a flyweight, also as a junior bandon weight. Now

694
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,599
he's got two of the bandamwait titles. As he spoke

695
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:38,720
about in the lead up, he's, you know, happy to

696
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:40,680
have made his mark as a three division champion, but

697
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240
he's always wanted to have a unification fight. He didn't

698
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:45,200
get that in the other two weight classes. But ever

699
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,519
since he got to Bandam weight, he's won all of

700
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:50,319
his fights in that weight class by knockout. He's won

701
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:53,119
all of them inside the sixth round. So he's not

702
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:56,400
taking prisoners, he's not waiting for anybody. He's taking care

703
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,799
of business real quick. He's now six and oh in

704
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:02,160
the or No. Five to Ozho in the weight class

705
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,480
all by knockout all inside six rounds. And it's not

706
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:07,039
like he's beaten bumps, you know what I mean. He's

707
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,240
beaten guys who have challenged for titles. He's beaten now

708
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:12,279
another world champion, he's been other He beat a Ragning,

709
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,079
he beat a you know, a good fighter that beating

710
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:18,000
Noniito Donair to win the title and other accomplished fighters.

711
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:21,000
So you know, to me, as as much as I

712
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:23,480
enjoy watching in a way fight, I think I like

713
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:25,039
watching Nakatani almost as much.

714
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: And I believe that was what his fifth fight since

715
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:31,160
last March all title knockout wins.

716
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: So let's just said this was his fifth fight since

717
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,880
he won the title against Santiago in February of twenty

718
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,920
twenty four, so less than a year and a half.

719
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,559
Speaker 2: Wow, how about that. Let's hear it for activity, all right?

720
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: One more then we're going to get in live here

721
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:45,960
to a couple more comments and then get to the news.

722
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:50,640
That is ji Opataia as expected, the IBF Cruiserweight champion,

723
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,039
as I put up on the screen for the video audience.

724
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:56,480
Blitz is another easy opponent Claudio Squao, who nobody had

725
00:33:56,519 --> 00:33:58,200
heard of from Italy.

726
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: And no one will hear from him again.

727
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I saw you joking that he looked like

728
00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:06,480
somebody had taken an air pump to Canelo Alvarez, that

729
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:10,199
he facially kind of resembles Canelo, and they pumped him

730
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,480
up with an air pump like a balloon. He looked

731
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:14,760
like a blown up super middleweight.

732
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 2: Or light heavyweight. He did not look like a full

733
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,639
blown cruiser weight.

734
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: And he was getting schooled for a lot of this fight,

735
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,559
from about the second round on Opatia hitting him with

736
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:25,840
straight left hands and then Dan I did see this

737
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,559
live on Sunday, and a lot of people have now

738
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:29,840
seen it either live or watched it back on his

739
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,280
own where Opataiah caught him with a right right on

740
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,239
the left jaw, the left side of his face and

741
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,559
immediately Squao's on the ground pointing to his jaw and

742
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,199
looking at his corner like he broke my jaw.

743
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: That's what I took that to mean. So fight over.

744
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,400
He's counted out your thoughts on Opataia.

745
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 3: We didn't get like an official diagnosis, but I don't

746
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,159
think you have to be, you know, a medical doctor

747
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:54,199
to realize that that's probably the case. I mean a

748
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,079
fracture jaw is not out of the crushing ji. Opataia

749
00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:01,079
is a six foot two, power punching southpaw with good volume,

750
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,480
a good chin of his own. Remember he fought through

751
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:05,039
a broken jaw when he won the title for the

752
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:07,960
first time against Myrs braid Us in that same venue

753
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,559
in broad Beach, Australia, And this time he comes. This

754
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:13,599
is a place where he's fought on a multiple of occasions,

755
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:16,519
including his most recent fight before this one. And again

756
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:18,320
they were keeping busy. I mean, no one was saying

757
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,719
Claudio Squeo is some dominating challenger that's going to be

758
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,599
a true threat. But you know, he's still got to

759
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:25,239
be in shape, you still got to be prepared because

760
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,679
anything can happening. We see that all the time. But

761
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,079
there's a difference when you're fighting a guy who's never

762
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:33,800
left his home country of Italy, who's fought every single

763
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,840
fight he's ever had has been against a complete nobody.

764
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,239
You've traveled. I give him credit for making the trip,

765
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,079
and then you look at them sized up physically. Opatai

766
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,519
is like cut from granite. As I said, six foot

767
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:45,079
two south pot with great punch and power and a

768
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:47,679
great chin and a good amateur background. On top of that,

769
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,360
he got Squay who's five to ten, looks like somebody

770
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,199
stuck an air hose up his ass and blew him.

771
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: Up like you.

772
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 3: And he's a shorter guy, doesn't pack a big punch. Obviously,

773
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,480
he hit Opatai clean with a few shots. Didn't seem

774
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,960
to bother me. He's now seventeen to one with nine knockouts.

775
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,679
Who those seventeen guys are? Who the heck knows? This

776
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,679
was a matter of Look, this is Opataiah. He's staying busy.

777
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,039
He wants the Zero Ramirez fight. That fight is a

778
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:17,639
fight that Golden Boy and the Opataiah camp have discussed.

779
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,800
That's a fight that Turkey al Chic wants to have.

780
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:22,920
Both of them. Zero as well as Opathiah boxed in

781
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,599
Saudi Arabia, and matter of fact, Opataiah has had three

782
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:28,760
of his last five fights in Riad. Zerdo Ramirez had

783
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,800
his most recent fight in Riad when he unified the

784
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,679
belts against Chris Bill Smith, and it was always all

785
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,239
I mean, I remember talking to Eric Gomez from Golden

786
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,239
Boy back, you know, after the Bill in the Smith fight,

787
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:41,719
maybe before the Bill in Smith fight. The whole idea

788
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,480
was we're gonna do the unification. To make the unification happen,

789
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,199
they promised to give the Unil Dordicos the next shot

790
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:51,519
as the mandatory, so he would step aside. He's a

791
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:55,679
two time champion, the KO doctor, tremendous punching power. That

792
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,679
fight is now made for the undercard, the co feature

793
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,840
when Jake Paul and child As Junior have their fight

794
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,119
later in June, and after that, you know you have

795
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,199
if Zerdo gets through that fight, which is not an

796
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:09,199
easy fight in my opinion, but if he gets through

797
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:13,280
the fight, you have you have Opatia safely through against Squeo. Uh,

798
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,280
there'll be an idea to try to make that probably

799
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,559
in like October time frame. If they decide to move

800
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:19,599
forward with that, that's the best fight you can make

801
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:21,639
in the division. It would be the unify three of

802
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:24,280
the belts. It would be for the lineal title that

803
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,800
that Opataia has now defended I believe six times. And uh,

804
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,000
it's a great matchup and it's a very exciting fight.

805
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:31,880
So I really kind of took offense by the way.

806
00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:34,800
Not Opataia was totally cool about it, but his promoter,

807
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,679
Mick Francis, the co promoter from Tasman Fighters which put

808
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,039
on the cart and the commentator that was doing the

809
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:42,719
interviews in the ring whose name escapes me. At the moment,

810
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,840
we're trying to make it out like zerbraimierz A. Somehow

811
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,400
I've been running and ducking and dodging Opataia, which is

812
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,239
absolutely ridiculous. He fought a unification fight against Billim Smith

813
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:54,199
and to get that important fight that Turkey wanted to do,

814
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:57,079
had to give Dorda Coos the next fight as the

815
00:37:57,119 --> 00:37:58,119
mandatory or.

816
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:01,559
Speaker 2: They're gonna the war out out of the unification that

817
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:01,920
he just did.

818
00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 3: And in the fight before that is when he won

819
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,320
the cruiserweight belt, the first one he had the WBA

820
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,239
title against Sugu Maarian. So there's no running involved here,

821
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,880
and Opatai is not running. It's just, you know, timing

822
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,440
is everything, and it feels like if he gets through

823
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,239
the door to coast fight then will be good timing.

824
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,400
We had season were back in effect in the fourth

825
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,920
quarter of this year and this will probably be one

826
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,000
of the bigger fights in terms of unifications we see

827
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,800
this calendar year. It's a great fight and.

828
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: I don't believe I've shared this with you privately, but

829
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,159
I'll share it with the audience. We're gonna get to

830
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:34,800
some comments. I intend. We got everything ready to go

831
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:38,400
to be out on the West coast ian Anaheim, California

832
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:38,639
for the.

833
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: Last ten times.

834
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:41,119
Speaker 2: Okay did I tell you this?

835
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:43,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you're taking the kids of Disneyland.

836
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: I will be out there because my twins are turning

837
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,920
seventeen and they want to go to Disneyland. Even though

838
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,320
we live an hour ray field from disney World in

839
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,400
West central Florida and Tampa Bay, we got to go

840
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,480
three thousand miles to the left and go out to Disneyland.

841
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,079
But it's their birthday. We're gonna be out there, and

842
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,199
and all things being equal, I will be at the

843
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,239
Jake Pole, Julio Caesar Chavez Junior whatever. That main event

844
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,440
is a pay per view with the Zerdo Dorda coos

845
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:12,480
Co feature, and I will report that weekend and we

846
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:14,519
will see what happens and see if it sets up

847
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:15,360
this Opataia fight.

848
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:16,119
Speaker 2: Stay tuned.

849
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,199
Speaker 3: Well. One thing Opataiya and Mick Francis, the promoter said

850
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,159
is they're going to be there in attendance to call

851
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,280
him out or whatever, which is not really entirely necessary

852
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,039
if they follow through on the previous plans. But it's

853
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:29,119
still good for the photo op and to mingle and

854
00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:31,199
to meet people and to talk to someone, get up on.

855
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: The ring apron and start pointing pro wrestling style, the

856
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,199
whole bit.

857
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of that will be going on

858
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:37,239
that weekend. So good stuff.

859
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: We're going to get to some news again here on

860
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,719
the live show. A lot of you have joined us

861
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,920
live as we're going along. We decided to do this

862
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:47,519
live on Sunday night. We had fully intended I'm explaining

863
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:50,280
again that we were looking to do a live segment

864
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,400
to recap the Keishan Davis main event, the top ranked

865
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,679
main event on ESPN that everybody was going to be

866
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:58,559
able to see in the United States. A funny thing

867
00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:03,559
happened though, Keishaan, it was about eighteen, Big Max over

868
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:06,079
one thirty five did not make the lightweight weight. They

869
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:08,119
did not have that fight, so we delayed this. Then

870
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:10,159
we Dan and I decided, you know what, let's go

871
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,320
live on Sunday night. And again the pod audience, it's

872
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,639
the same for you, I get it, but you're watching

873
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,360
us live on YouTube and maybe Dan, they're watching us

874
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,639
on demand Sunday night and Monday night, Monday Monday Night

875
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:22,239
on YouTube.

876
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: I think they've got it by this point that.

877
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot, but understand there's a lot of audience

878
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:28,880
that's joined us in like the last twenty or thirty minutes,

879
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,440
going what the hey, no thing's going on here? We

880
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:35,760
are here, we are to that end. We have people

881
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:39,920
weighing in with more comments. Mister Adore says, good stuff.

882
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,119
He likes the fact that we're live. Francisco says the

883
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:45,840
heavyweight division is good right now? When will jolla Off

884
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,519
get a high profile fight? He got something on the

885
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,800
It's Uzbek, right, the big Uzbekistan.

886
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,639
Speaker 3: OHV is a very frustrating figure because he he's very

887
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:58,320
tantalizing and he's looked good in his profiles. He's won

888
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,519
everything pretty much by I think everything I knockout and uh,

889
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,000
he's got the two Olympic gold medals. He made a

890
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:06,400
lot of money staying amateur though, because he was getting

891
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,519
paid by the usbag government. So he's with top rank

892
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,159
and uh, you know he's.

893
00:41:11,159 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: What has he had off the top of your head

894
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,519
a half dozen fights as he had.

895
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 3: Yet he's got about fifteen fights about fifteen.

896
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,159
Speaker 2: Okay, so they're bringing along.

897
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:20,639
Speaker 3: But it's it's he's not. He doesn't need to be

898
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:22,880
brought along. He's ready to fight. I mean, this is

899
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,599
is that season an amateur heavyweight that has ever existed

900
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:28,960
in the history of boxing, and he's won the two

901
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,639
gold medals and he's been knocking everybody out. He's big

902
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:34,639
and strong, he's a south paw. One of his amateur

903
00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:37,119
wins in a very significant tournament to go towards the

904
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:40,880
Olympics was a victory against Justice Soony among many other

905
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,079
name heavyweights. If you look down his amateur record that

906
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:46,719
he's beaten. Uh, but there's nothing on the schedule as

907
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,760
best as I know now. He did just fight not

908
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,920
that long ago. Remember when when your boy Jannebec had

909
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,559
the defense in Kazakhstan. He fought on that undercart and

910
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:55,960
got an.

911
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: All right, my boy.

912
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:04,679
Speaker 1: Uh, several more of you are away in Connor, no cannon.

913
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,719
Cannon says, Whooney switches off last fight as well, but one.

914
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,480
In other words, maybe got a little lax, got a

915
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,519
little tired, got a little lax, and then got knocked

916
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:16,360
out in this one. Who else is new to comments?

917
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,639
Sid watching?

918
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 2: Thank you? Sid says great show. Gentlemen, love it.

919
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: Jen Rue Junior says, cannot wait to see Opatai and Zerto.

920
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: We agree.

921
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:29,519
Speaker 1: Gail says, I didn't know you were coming out to

922
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,119
the OC. I will see you there, all right, Gale,

923
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:33,039
not if I see you first.

924
00:42:33,079 --> 00:42:33,519
Speaker 2: Just kidding.

925
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: I love the pr pro from San Diego. Anything else

926
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:43,559
new were? I think we're good on the comments. Let's

927
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:47,119
get to some news and on this Sunday night, the

928
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:50,719
International Boxing Hall of Fame Induction weekend is concluding. You

929
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,480
watched the induction ceremony. We tease this for the podcast audience.

930
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,440
We teased it on the bet US Live Boxing Show Friday.

931
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:01,360
Manny pacqui Ow heading the class here, even though he's

932
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,360
going to fight coming up next month in a return

933
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,400
after a four year absence. What were your overall thoughts

934
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,239
on the induction? Spend a couple of minutes here and

935
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,119
tell us what you thought in Upstate New York for

936
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:14,440
the International Boxing Hall of Fame inductions on this Sunday.

937
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:16,559
Speaker 3: Well, one thing, Manny did not promote his pay per

938
00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:19,280
view during the course of his speech, so I appreciated

939
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,320
the fact that he led business rest for a minute

940
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,599
while he reflected on his amazing career and the life

941
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:27,960
that boxing has brought him. I will say this, there

942
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:30,599
was a look that's it's a big weekend for all

943
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:33,719
the inductees. It's a it's a career and life highlight.

944
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:36,719
But they got to do something about how long these

945
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,920
people speak? Because Pacow hit all the right notes, spoke

946
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,559
probably you know, five, six minutes, you know seven something

947
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,000
like that was really good. It was not too long.

948
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:48,000
But there were some other people that were just just

949
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,280
on and on and on. Some of them though they

950
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,440
gave some great comments. I really enjoyed Again, he kept

951
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,480
it tight. I enjoyed the comments from Ross Greenberg, who

952
00:43:56,519 --> 00:44:00,760
was the inducted into the observer category as a long

953
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,320
time executive producer of HBO Sports and also the former

954
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,039
president of HBO Sports, who was highly involved for you know, years,

955
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:12,000
decades in terms of the way their production looked. And

956
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,920
you know, he's the guy that brought you the unofficial Judge,

957
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,280
Harold Letterman. He's the one that helped put together the

958
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:20,920
legendary broadcast team of Jim Lampley, Larry Merchant, and George

959
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,320
Foreman and later Emmanuel Stewart and others that you know

960
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:27,599
brought the sound to HBO did the look and created

961
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:29,960
twenty four to seven and other things. Anyway, he gave

962
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,280
a really great speech about some of the people that

963
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,920
he worked with and the things that they had did

964
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,440
and made the point that ever since the end of

965
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:40,280
HBO and Eden say show with time. But I know

966
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,119
what he meant that boxing has kind of got away

967
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,199
in their broadcast from sometimes telling the stories of the

968
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:50,000
fighters to make you want to watch, and it's it's

969
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:51,960
not quite what it once was. And the outlets that

970
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:54,800
still do it, while they still show plenty of boxing matches,

971
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,639
they've kind of trade from that part of the of

972
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,360
the of the story, if you will, And he made

973
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,239
a plea to get back to that in terms of

974
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:06,320
what is shown to the audience to help develop an

975
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,280
interest in these fighters. So I thought that was some

976
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,239
good remarks. Somebody can maybe drop me a note and

977
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,440
let me know what the heck Vinnie Paz was talking about.

978
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:18,239
I'm still not clear what he was saying. He's very excited,

979
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,280
and you know, the fans loved him, but I'm still

980
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,519
not sure what he was saying. But they saved pak

981
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:24,800
Yo for the end. Oh, Kenny Bayless gave some great

982
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:27,719
uh some great comments about his life as a referee

983
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,599
and getting involved in it. It's you can find it

984
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:32,039
on YouTube. It's worth watching and you can skip around

985
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:33,719
and go back to it. But look, they saved it

986
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,880
for last. The headliner of this event. The other the

987
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,599
other besides Paco, the two other men in the modern category,

988
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:44,199
which is the marquee category were Vinnie Paz and also

989
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:47,480
Michael Nunn, the former middleweight and super middleweight champion. He

990
00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:50,960
made some good comments too, reflected on some great mistakes

991
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,199
he made in his life that cost him sixteen years

992
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,280
in prison.

993
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:55,519
Speaker 2: Unbelievab them.

994
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: He's come out at the other end, and I guess

995
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,559
as a solid citizen now and.

996
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:03,159
Speaker 1: I realized it was sixteen years. I mean, what a

997
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,800
what a redemption moment for him to be standing at

998
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:06,800
the Hall of Fame.

999
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: There for drug dealing, conspiracy, basic.

1000
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: Mandatory minimums too, being what they were in the eighties

1001
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,840
and the nineties, you were going away for a long time.

1002
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,119
Speaker 3: Wow, he did his time, and he's come out and

1003
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,280
come out the other end, as they say, and no

1004
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,679
for a period of time in the in the in

1005
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,320
the like I guess the late eighties post Ray Leonards

1006
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,840
prime in that they were building him up to be

1007
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:32,320
like the next sort of sugar Ray Leonard. He had

1008
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,199
a great amateur background. He obviously had won world titles

1009
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:37,880
at middleweight and super middleweight, had fought a lot of

1010
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,280
top names and it just never quite quite panned out

1011
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,639
that way. But good to see him get his life

1012
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:47,119
back on track. And you know, and he's he's belongs

1013
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:48,239
in the All Fame. He just hadn't been on the

1014
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,639
ballot for a while. I voted for him. I thought

1015
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:52,480
it was a perfectly you know, he isn't gonna take

1016
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,599
a look at that resume. It's prett damn good. But

1017
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:57,639
they say pack yel for last. After a long long

1018
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,719
session of speeches in pac Yo, you know, he he

1019
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,800
talked about, you know, being the underdog and the miracle

1020
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,639
of a kid that didn't have a place to sleep

1021
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:08,679
but on the street as a kid roam in the

1022
00:47:08,679 --> 00:47:11,280
streets of Manila looking for food, that he could go

1023
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,280
from that status to h world icon and you know,

1024
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,559
make hundreds of millions of dollars. Uh, And that if

1025
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:23,119
that the point. He wasn't bragging about it. He was

1026
00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:25,079
just making the point that if I, if that can

1027
00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:28,480
happen to me, anybody out there should never give up

1028
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,639
on what we're shriving for and that there's always a

1029
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,320
hope and a way out and uh. And for him,

1030
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:36,440
he's still amazed as I am having covered it, and

1031
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,679
I'm sure lots of others, uh that a fighter like

1032
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,239
that that was just you know, had nothing working for

1033
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,320
him in his life, had no amateur career of any

1034
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,400
kind to speak of, would go on and become the

1035
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,159
biggest star in boxing, the highest money maker in boxing

1036
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:54,960
for a period of time, being involved in the hugest fights,

1037
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,880
win world championships in eight different way classes, be it

1038
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,199
recognized title belts or lineage, to be a champion in

1039
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,079
four decades, to be at age forty when he defeated

1040
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:08,360
Keith Thurman, the oldest welterweight champion for the oldest fighter

1041
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,840
to win a welterweight title, a record that he can

1042
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,199
break if he should win his upcoming fight against Marios,

1043
00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:17,840
which he did not mention. And it was really it

1044
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,119
was really great to see pack out take the bows

1045
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:22,440
and to give credit to the people that helped him

1046
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,039
get there. He gave special shout outs to Bob Aram

1047
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:26,760
who was his longtime promoter that put him in some

1048
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,800
of the biggest fights during his heyday. Also to Al Hayman,

1049
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,239
who has been putting on his fights in the later

1050
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,800
stages of his career for the last few years. And

1051
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,480
they've done a great job with him. And you know,

1052
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:39,639
Freddie Roach and the team was there. I mean, he

1053
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,159
was very thankful for everything, as everybody was about about

1054
00:48:42,159 --> 00:48:43,840
the people that helped him get to you know, nobody's

1055
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,880
going to get to the boxing all fame without some

1056
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,239
help from somebody, whether you know, and it doesn't matter

1057
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,760
you've met a fighter, you've got your promoter, your manager,

1058
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,559
your trainer, your support system. It could be a media

1059
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:56,760
person that gets inducted. They've got family members or other people.

1060
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,760
Are people in the business that have helped them alone.

1061
00:48:58,519 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: But they had to hire you.

1062
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I always enjoy watching those things. To me,

1063
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,599
it's sort of like it brings everybody full circle. Except

1064
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:09,239
the Manu's case. He's heading back to California, back to

1065
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,519
training camp to prepare for the Barrios fight.

1066
00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: All right, So good recap on that. We'll be here

1067
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,840
for a few more moments. A little more news and

1068
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,760
one nostalgia item. All right, So on that news, Dana

1069
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,679
White confirmed on Saturday night after the UFC pay per

1070
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,079
view in New Jersey that yes, he was asked about this, Yes,

1071
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,440
I am TKO and I am promoting the Canelo Crawford fight.

1072
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: Turkey alis Chic then.

1073
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: Released a social media post saying the same thing, This

1074
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:39,920
is not that big of a surprise. There had been

1075
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,679
some uncertainty, I guess, but it's not that big a surprise, right,

1076
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:43,199
pick it up.

1077
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's not a surprise to me. But

1078
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:48,239
there was a moment there where he said that Dana

1079
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,159
would promote the fight and it was being planned, and

1080
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:54,199
then there was a moment where he backtracked and put

1081
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,480
out another social media post did not mention Dana, which

1082
00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:01,519
by omission meant he wasn't involved, and said that Sella,

1083
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:04,559
which is the Saudi agency that was going to be

1084
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:07,119
handling the fight. Now that's interesting casella. I guess they

1085
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:09,039
could get a license, but they're not licensed presently in

1086
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:11,440
the United States. They probably have to hire a local

1087
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,400
promoter that has a license to put on the event.

1088
00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:16,480
But as you said, Dana confirmed the fight, he will

1089
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,199
be promoting it. Which you need a face. You need

1090
00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:20,920
somebody to get out there and bark and make the

1091
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,760
you know, get the word out. I mean, we can

1092
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,159
all sit here and talk about how big Canelo Crawford

1093
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,320
is within boxing, but I'm here to tell you in

1094
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,920
the mainstream, it's still a notable fight. But it's not

1095
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:35,119
Mayweather Pakia, it's not Lewis Tyson, it's not some of

1096
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:36,880
the big De la Joya fights. It's just it's a

1097
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,320
good it's a great, you know, fascinating match for a

1098
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,599
lot of reasons. But the public needs to be made

1099
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:43,719
aware of it, and Dana White will be pounding that

1100
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,719
drum and getting out there in mainstream to let folks

1101
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,599
know about it. So it's a good move on therebyf

1102
00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:51,239
And because the fight's now gonna be on the thirteenth,

1103
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,719
I even before Turkey made that announcement, and even before

1104
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,280
Dana confirmed it in terms of his public comments at

1105
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,719
the at the press Carrts related to the UFC event,

1106
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:04,119
I've been told over the last several days that it

1107
00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:08,760
will be at the Allegiance Stadium in Las Vegas, and

1108
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,159
that probably will be back on Netflix. And so now

1109
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:14,880
that I hear the data is involved, it makes me

1110
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,320
think that the Netflix part of this has even got

1111
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,719
more possibility because the conduit is the fact that TKO,

1112
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:26,440
through their wrestling deal, has relationships with TKO and Netflix.

1113
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,079
Together they do the w W shows Monday Night Raw.

1114
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:31,679
They've got a billion dollar deal there. So while I

1115
00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:33,840
guess they could technically still wind up as a pay

1116
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,119
per view, I'm tolding from somebody that's involved that it's

1117
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:40,599
trending towards Netflix still going to do the fight and

1118
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:42,920
now will probably be on the thirteenth and at Allegiance

1119
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:47,079
Stadium in Las Vegas. So you know, after all wind

1120
00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:48,880
up the same way we all expect it.

1121
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,199
Speaker 2: Well, let's clarify something.

1122
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 1: So Friday night the twelveth is what they were looking

1123
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,559
at for Allegiant Stadium. The thirteenth has a UNLV football game.

1124
00:51:57,639 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 3: But no, they won't have you a football game. They

1125
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,239
will buy then out and move them.

1126
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,559
Speaker 1: Interesting that they that would be interesting on how and

1127
00:52:04,639 --> 00:52:06,679
where they make that happen. And the UNLV game is

1128
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,599
a nondescript game, right, so that would be interesting.

1129
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 3: Come with some money and they pay the school. Do

1130
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,679
you think UNLV, which is not a gargantuan revenue course,

1131
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:18,440
and they say, here's whatever a million.

1132
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: Play on Friday night exactly, or but then you got

1133
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,519
to play on Thursday night or something like that, depending.

1134
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:25,639
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, we'll see.

1135
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: That's a component though, just I just wanted you to

1136
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,159
clarify that because the original intent was to play Friday

1137
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,280
night the fight, the pay per view or the Netflix

1138
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,599
was to be Friday night and play the game Saturday

1139
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,239
for the un l V.

1140
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 2: We'll see.

1141
00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:45,679
Speaker 3: Who knows anything about boxing business knows that doing Canelo

1142
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,199
Crawford on Friday night is a disaster. It's a disaster

1143
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,360
if there is a pay per view, and it's a

1144
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,159
disaster for the gate period. That's just I mean, there's

1145
00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:57,239
no way around.

1146
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: It unless, man, unless the Saudi's I'm just I'm just

1147
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:04,559
giving you a devil's advocate. Unless the Saudis believe we're

1148
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:07,599
gonna pack that stadium, We're gonna have it on Netflix

1149
00:53:07,639 --> 00:53:09,400
where so many more people see it and we don't

1150
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,960
care how much money we lose, which.

1151
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, they can't pack the stadium on a

1152
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,960
Friday night because the fans that are going to gravitate

1153
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:19,119
to the fight, many of them Canelos fans, are people

1154
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,199
used to coming to Vegas, coming in on Friday, driving

1155
00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:27,440
from California or your Arizona on Friday and attending the

1156
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,000
fight on Saturday, so they don't have to like take

1157
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,760
a day off from work on Friday. They leave after work,

1158
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,599
they get in, they party Friday night, they go to

1159
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:38,079
the fight on Saturday, they stay over, they hang out

1160
00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:40,199
on Sunday and they drive home. And to do that

1161
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,199
on Friday. And then you're not talking about team Mobile

1162
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,280
which holds maybe twenty thousand. You're talking about a football

1163
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,639
stadium that holds you know, multiples of that. So it

1164
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,280
needs to be on a Saturday, but it's gonna be

1165
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,000
in the stadium.

1166
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: Good stuff with that.

1167
00:53:53,519 --> 00:53:57,679
Speaker 1: By the way, Also Turkey Al Chic and the and

1168
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,440
the Saudi Entertainment Authority say that August sixty will be

1169
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,000
the date of a card in Saudi Arabia with Moses

1170
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:05,000
Atama Dillian White headlining.

1171
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: Fill in a little more about that. Not a surprise

1172
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,840
way up ahead.

1173
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 3: I mean, look, August sixteenth, for whatever the reason, has

1174
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,639
been a popular date that was supposed to be when

1175
00:54:15,079 --> 00:54:18,039
they were looking to do the fight between t Femo

1176
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Lopez against Devin Haney once Hainey Garcia wasn't going to happen.

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And obviously we discussed that at length. We know that's off,

1178
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,960
that ain't happening, but they're still planning to do a

1179
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,239
show on that day. So Dylan White was not originally

1180
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,519
scheduled to be on the Queensberry card with Fabio Wardley

1181
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:36,960
against Honey, and then he was a late addition to

1182
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,719
that card, but they didn't have an opponent for him,

1183
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,920
and then he was knocked off the card a few

1184
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,920
days before, and I talked to some folks at Queensberry

1185
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,320
and it was said to me, well, we've got big

1186
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,159
plans for him for something else. Okay, this is what

1187
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,079
that is. Mossese Tama is taking a huge step up

1188
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:55,079
in class against a reputable, known heavyweight contender type who's

1189
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:57,920
fought for the title, who's fought against top guys a

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00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,760
number of occasions, and Moses Etama is the number one

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00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,400
heavyweight prospect in boxing, a rising contender age twenty years old,

1192
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,119
my prospect of the Year for twenty twenty four, and

1193
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,519
pretty much everybody else's prospect year who also picks such awards,

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00:55:12,039 --> 00:55:14,239
And so they'll be on this card in reat it's

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a true test for a Tama. It's it's a chance

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00:55:17,159 --> 00:55:20,239
to if Dylan White can bounce back and put himself

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00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,599
in a position for something big once again. And then

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they've also added two other fights of this show also.

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One is a title fight between the WBA featherweight title

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00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:33,239
holder Nick Ball, who will defend against Sam Goodman, who

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00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,079
was moving off from one hundred and twenty two thousand.

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00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:37,559
Remember he was supposed to be the mandatory and fight

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00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:40,559
against in a way, and twice he suffered cuts in

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00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:43,280
training camp. The first time they postponed that fight from

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00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,239
last Christmas Eve. The second time they said year out

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00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,400
of luck and they ended up doing a different fight,

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and Goodman had come back a few weeks ago got

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00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,159
to win, and now he's getting this title opportunity. He's

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00:55:54,159 --> 00:55:56,840
going to move up and fight Nick Ball on this show.

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And then the other fight that Turkey put out there

1211
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,400
is going to be Anthony Kassachi against Raymond Ford in

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00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,960
a non title fight at one hundred and thirty pounds,

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00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:09,599
or maybe Kasachi will defend his fringe title whose initials

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00:56:09,639 --> 00:56:12,400
I won't even mention, but again, those are two of

1215
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,719
the better for thirty pounders in boxing. That seems to

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00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,960
be a good matchup in my book, and I'm sure

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00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,519
if Turkey follows through and does the things that Turkey does.

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They'll add on some other interesting and good fights to

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00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:26,960
give it a more depth to the show.

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Speaker 1: Good enough on that, and so we do nostalgia also

1221
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,119
on the pod usually and on the live show, depending

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00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:36,639
on what the situation is. We have already done a

1223
00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:40,840
nostalgia segment that is on this YouTube page. Go into

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00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,119
the videos and see it. And that is for the

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anniversary of Lennox Lewis. Mike Tyson, Dan has the hat

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00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,800
on Lewis tyson Is on was the promotion for two

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00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,000
thousand and two Memphis, Tennessee. So we don't want to

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00:56:54,039 --> 00:56:56,079
give away and tip off a lot of what you

1229
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,239
say on that segment. Suffice to say it was an

1230
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,679
unusual place my hometown, Memphis, Tennessee. You explain why the

1231
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,599
fight was there. They need to go watch the YouTube

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00:57:06,679 --> 00:57:10,480
video that's right here on this channel.

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Speaker 3: What memorable week. That was one of the most memorable.

1234
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,800
I mean I have covered TJ literally hundreds of fight

1235
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,400
weeks in my day. That's sinking that, you know, that's

1236
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,280
high on the list of the all time fight Week's

1237
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,480
just a remarkable, remarkable fight week.

1238
00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:28,719
Speaker 1: So relive Lennox Lewis arguably the signature culminating win of

1239
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,519
his career, knocking out Mike Tyson on this YouTube channel

1240
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:36,480
under the videos, it's right there with the June eighth

1241
00:57:36,519 --> 00:57:40,079
anniversary from today, June the eighth of two thousand and two.

1242
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,880
You also want to share about one other bit of nostalgia,

1243
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,719
and this fight is celebrating a fifteenth or actually an

1244
00:57:47,719 --> 00:57:52,679
eleventh anniversary June seven, twenty fourteen, which was Saturday Miguel

1245
00:57:52,800 --> 00:58:00,039
Coto's TKO of Sergio Martinez and that came.

1246
00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:04,039
Speaker 2: In what Madison Square Garden.

1247
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: You were right there for that for Codo that night

1248
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,159
and a significant moment for him in terms of number

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00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:10,880
of multi division championships.

1250
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,079
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, June seventh, twenty fourteen, eleven years ago

1251
00:58:15,159 --> 00:58:17,880
on Saturday, you know, yesterday as we take this or

1252
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,079
do this live. Lookkoto was a fan favorite. We're always

1253
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:24,320
packing Madison Square Garden for his fights rock in the house,

1254
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,639
and this was no different. He had won titles already

1255
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,639
in three weight classes at junior welterweight, welterweight and junior

1256
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:32,000
middleweight and had some big wins and fought a lot

1257
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,400
of good fighters and when he lost it was usually

1258
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,559
only to the It was only to the very best guys,

1259
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:39,679
and this was an opportunity for him to fight Sergio Martinez,

1260
00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:42,360
who was the bonafid middleweight champ, he was the lineal champion,

1261
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,639
he was the WBC champion, and Miguel moved up in

1262
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:47,440
wait to do this, and it was a matter of

1263
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,920
him trying to become the first ever Puerto Rican boxer

1264
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,639
to win a world title in four weight classes. It

1265
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:54,639
was a big deal. Puerto Rico has produced so many

1266
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,400
greats through the years and has such a rich history

1267
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,679
and legacy and tradition in the sport, so for him

1268
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:01,119
to be able to be the first to do that

1269
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:04,760
was a big deal. And look, Martinez obviously was compromised.

1270
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,159
He had a bum knee that was probably a little

1271
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:10,920
bit messed up going into the fight, but it did

1272
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,679
not really, it wasn't the reason why he got knocked

1273
00:59:14,679 --> 00:59:17,840
down three times in the first round and Codo otherwise

1274
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,880
went on to dominate and ultimately stop him. Crowd I

1275
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:23,360
do remember this. I mean, we talk about the rocking

1276
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,440
crowds that I've been in, and I always talk about

1277
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,679
the William Joppy fight against Felix Trinidad. I think about

1278
00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:31,880
the Felix Trinidad fight against Majorga, and I always think

1279
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,599
about the Codo fight against Margarito when they met in

1280
00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:37,000
the rematch, So those for me are those are sort

1281
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,679
of the ones that stand out to me for Madison

1282
00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:41,880
Square Garden, as well as Anthony Joshua against Andy Ruiz.

1283
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,360
But this fight with Martinez and Codo, it was also

1284
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,239
a high level, massive, ridiculous atmosphere. I think of Codo

1285
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,519
against ab Judah another one like that, but twenty one

1286
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:56,840
thousand going absolutely wild for Miguel Coto and a very

1287
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:01,400
vocal Argentine crowd. They're cheering on Martinez, but in the end,

1288
01:00:01,719 --> 01:00:05,840
the knee just was too bad. His Sergio's quarter ultimately

1289
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,760
stopped that fight a few seconds into the tenth round,

1290
01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:11,599
and it was like one big celebration with Miguel becoming

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01:00:11,639 --> 01:00:14,440
a four division champion. Really, I mean, I feel like

1292
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,519
he was probably a Hall of Famer even before that,

1293
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,599
but that really was like a way to cement give

1294
01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:21,719
him a line item on that resume that had never

1295
01:00:21,719 --> 01:00:23,599
been done by all the greats. Had a come from

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01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:25,719
Puerto Rico to say I got that fourth title belt,

1297
01:00:26,119 --> 01:00:29,039
and it was just another great night for Coto at

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01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:31,360
the Garden, which was his home where he packed the

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01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,440
place time and time and time again. For me an

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01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:38,960
incredible privilege in my career to have covered every single

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01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,400
one of Miguel's fights at the Guard other than two

1302
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,639
that I missed because that was at bigger fights on

1303
01:00:43,679 --> 01:00:44,239
the same night.

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01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:48,519
Speaker 1: And also Codo just recently had the anniversary of the

1305
01:00:48,599 --> 01:00:52,119
Codo win over Solido over Solido, which.

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01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,119
Speaker 2: Was at Yankee Stadium. If I'm not mistaken, and just

1307
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:55,480
we can't, I don't know.

1308
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:56,639
Speaker 3: What you're telling you not. You're getting the name RU

1309
01:00:56,639 --> 01:00:58,039
against your reformant.

1310
01:00:58,039 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: Your reforman. My bad on that you just.

1311
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 3: Get all your Jewish fighters mixed up.

1312
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,719
Speaker 1: Well, no, I'm trying to remember. Was it didn't he

1313
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,760
fight or Orlando Soledo as well? No, I thought, But

1314
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,239
maybe I have that part wrong, but it's there. Codo

1315
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:15,000
such a monstrous star, not only in Puerto Rico but

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01:01:15,159 --> 01:01:18,000
in New York. You can't convey that enough during the

1317
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,159
during the twenty tens, and that's what you're saying.

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01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:21,719
Speaker 3: No, he did the biggest crowds. I mean, he had

1319
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,360
thirty plus thousand for that Uriforman fight at Yankee Stadium

1320
01:01:25,519 --> 01:01:28,079
where he won the Junior Middleway title. That was another

1321
01:01:28,159 --> 01:01:31,679
amazing night. As a as a lifelong Yankee fan, it

1322
01:01:31,719 --> 01:01:34,679
meant even more to me to be there. That was

1323
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,920
that was just a you know, it wasn't the greatest

1324
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,280
fight in the world because he dominated so but it

1325
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,960
was the the atmosphere. But there's no I mean, all

1326
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:45,960
due respect to my boys at Yankee Stadium, there's nothing

1327
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,320
like a Miguel Cota fight at Madison Square and to

1328
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,480
be able to have gone there time and again to

1329
01:01:50,519 --> 01:01:53,320
witness what those fans brought to the table. I mean

1330
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,559
even when he fought fights that weren't as big like

1331
01:01:55,599 --> 01:01:58,960
I went to the Garden. When Miguel Cota fought Michael Jennings,

1332
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,639
that was a very small fight relative to the bigger fights.

1333
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,039
Miguel at Funt he was coming off I believe. I

1334
01:02:05,039 --> 01:02:06,400
don't have it in front of me, but I believe

1335
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,480
he was coming off with the loss to Manny Pack

1336
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:10,639
Now when he took that fight, and he still brought

1337
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:12,159
in a ton of people and made it a great night,

1338
01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:14,400
even though it was a complete one sided ask kicking.

1339
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,239
I mean Coto, you know, he he he was the

1340
01:02:17,239 --> 01:02:19,440
biggest ticket seller in New York at that time. Right now,

1341
01:02:19,519 --> 01:02:22,840
boxing does not have that type of New York ticket seller.

1342
01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:25,079
They've they've tried to develop some people like that and

1343
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:27,880
maybe somebody will become that. And uh, you know we've seen,

1344
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,079
you know, still see fights in New York City. But

1345
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,639
since the Garden would love to find another Miguel Coto

1346
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,000
to take up that of the guy that brings in

1347
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:38,119
all those people all the time.

1348
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 2: And again, it was eleven years ago on the Martinez

1349
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:41,679
knockout about that.

1350
01:02:42,199 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: Listen. Thank you for all of the inside. Thank you

1351
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,760
to all of you that have been watching us live

1352
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:51,000
on YouTube. Again for the pod audience, it all got

1353
01:02:51,039 --> 01:02:53,480
delivered the same way for the video audience. If you

1354
01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:56,719
didn't realize, we have a podcast feed Apple, Spreaker, Spotify,

1355
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,960
go check that out. But for the video audience, help

1356
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,920
us out as you've been seeing on the screen, make

1357
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,320
sure to hit subscribe if you are not, hit the

1358
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,519
like button. Make some comments below the video that will

1359
01:03:08,519 --> 01:03:10,400
help in the algorithms with the video. I know a

1360
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,079
lot of you have been commenting in the live chat,

1361
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,360
but if you enjoyed the show, etc. Make a comment

1362
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,960
or two below the video in the comments section that

1363
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:22,280
helps us out as well. Anything else. In closing, are

1364
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,320
we good? Big Dan for a Sunday night.

1365
01:03:24,719 --> 01:03:26,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good. I mean, there was action all through

1366
01:03:26,679 --> 01:03:28,679
the weekend. It was a pretty good weekend of fights

1367
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,480
other than the Keishon Davis disaster. But we'll reconvene for

1368
01:03:32,519 --> 01:03:33,000
the next one.

1369
01:03:33,199 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've got Richardson Hitchins, George Cambosis among others

1370
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,559
coming for later this week again. Follower subscribe on all

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01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:43,559
the podcast feeds, Applespreaker, Spotify, on the podcast. Thank you

1372
01:03:43,639 --> 01:03:45,639
for finding us on the YouTube page. Go check out

1373
01:03:45,639 --> 01:03:48,639
the videos for the nostalgia segments. More and more reviewer

1374
01:03:48,719 --> 01:03:52,400
finding those and liking those and sharing those as well.

1375
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: And we love doing those.

1376
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:55,199
Speaker 3: Again.

1377
01:03:55,239 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: Big Dan has been in so many of these fights

1378
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,960
throughout this century. It's great to get his insight on that. Dan,

1379
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,760
we have a great rest of the weekend. Let's have

1380
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,840
a good week. We appreciate it as always.

1381
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: You bet TJ.

1382
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:06,559
Speaker 2: There is Big Dan, Rayphiel.

1383
01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:09,639
Speaker 1: I'm merely TJ Reeves And you've been with us live

1384
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,519
here on YouTube and on the podcast feed.

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Speaker 2: On the Fight Freaks Unite recap. Good night,