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Speaker 1: We have at least the opening game TV ratings to
Speaker 1: talk about, courtesy Mike Mitchell, plus everything UFL Week one here.
Speaker 2: Thanks everyone for joining us. First off, John, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good man. It was an interesting first week. As
Speaker 3: the old Native Americans saying goes, may you live in
Speaker 3: interesting times. That's not always a blessing. But we'll see
Speaker 3: what happens. I mean, there's going to be a lot
Speaker 3: of overreaction, understandable, but I think there's gonna be some
Speaker 3: legitimate reaction here. So we're gonna see.
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Speaker 1: Let's see that everyone's checking in here, So we'll go through.
Speaker 1: We'll do general thoughts on the weekend, we'll talk to
Speaker 1: the TV ratings, and then we'll go through the games.
Speaker 1: I did my best catching up, you know, baseball opening weekend.
Speaker 1: I was at the Mariners game yesterday, John, I kind
Speaker 1: of missed all of that at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: which David Well I was. You know, I was a
Speaker 1: little buzz last night just coming out.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: We uber down and went to the game, and I
Speaker 1: was watching the Memphis game here and we were texting,
Speaker 1: and then we went to the game and I, you know,
Speaker 1: I caught the end of the game whatever. And I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here today and I go, wow, I completely kind
Speaker 1: of missed all of that, the engagement and everything at
Speaker 1: the end of the So we will talk through all that. Also,
Speaker 1: I was on Rod Peterson Show today, so check that
Speaker 1: out as well. The Canadians always like hearing of that.
Speaker 1: You know, I was how bad was the UFL kickoffs?
Speaker 1: So but we'll share with thoughts, John. I tweeted out
Speaker 1: last night and I'll see if I can pull it
Speaker 1: up here. But you know, a grade UFL you know,
Speaker 1: kickoff weekend. I had a lot of c's and d's
Speaker 1: in my group chat, you know, in my comments, What
Speaker 1: did you make of kind of just UFL weekend overall?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean I think see my for for
Speaker 3: a lot of this overall might be a little generous.
Speaker 3: Maybe you're grading on a curve here that there was
Speaker 3: some that were better than others. But yeah, I was
Speaker 3: we talked last week. I was very optimistic going in,
Speaker 3: or at least cautiously optimistic. Maybe not very optimistic. It's
Speaker 3: it's one week. You know, we don't need a off
Speaker 3: launch for a league that is entering the second season,
Speaker 3: So I'm willing to give it a break. I said
Speaker 3: last week. I was kind of talking out of both
Speaker 3: sides of my mouth. I'm interested to see what the
Speaker 3: ratings are, but I'm also almost ready to throw them
Speaker 3: out because because of March madness and a lot of
Speaker 3: and baseball and a lot of other things going on.
Speaker 3: So I think probably the UFL would like to throw
Speaker 3: those ratings out for this first week as well.
Speaker 1: It's really hard, and I was talking about this with
Speaker 1: Rod and everything too, like it's just the worst time,
Speaker 1: and I know they did decent ratings last year. We'll
Speaker 1: talk through the game I haven't pulled up one point
Speaker 1: one eight one last year.
Speaker 2: So to give the context Saturday day for that, I
Speaker 2: thought it was good. At the time.
Speaker 1: You're going up, as we've said before, March madness and
Speaker 1: baseball and everything.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's all that I saw.
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm seeing the UFL teams because I followed them
Speaker 1: and kind of engage in that. But you know, algorithmically,
Speaker 1: it's a really tough weekend to kind of break in,
Speaker 1: I think, and just even get any casual fans and
Speaker 1: no disrespect. But until the game last night, I thought
Speaker 1: the first three games really had nothing to write home
Speaker 1: about it. I know you said the Memphis game got
Speaker 1: more exciting than the second half, but that first half
Speaker 1: Sunday morning, I mean that was when Rod and everyone
Speaker 1: was texting me, I'm home, I'm watching this game. What's
Speaker 1: going on? Why is there anyone here? We can talk
Speaker 1: through attendance as well, but you know, you know, down
Speaker 1: across the board, I think Memphis only had forty three
Speaker 1: hundred people, which is if the UFL is putting that out,
Speaker 1: then that's obviously the high end of kind of tickets distributed.
Speaker 1: So to me, it was tough that way where even
Speaker 1: if ratings come in decently and we'll talk to you know,
Speaker 1: six hundred ninety thousand for the opening game, I don't
Speaker 1: feel like you saw a lot from a casual fan
Speaker 1: that would bring you back next week. Mike Mitchell, I
Speaker 1: guess as well put it up on here just to
Speaker 1: go with our thoughts. You know, the first game peaked
Speaker 1: in the first fifteen minutes, as you would you know,
Speaker 1: eight hundred and forty four thousand dropped average six hundred nine,
Speaker 1: so obviously peaked. You would like to see that peak
Speaker 1: at the end. Gives us a gauge. Any comments I
Speaker 1: kind of rambled there. Any thoughts on that.
Speaker 3: No, I think it peaked in the first fifteen minutes
Speaker 3: because a lot of people tuned in, and I think
Speaker 3: they saw not necessarily the product on the field. I
Speaker 3: thought the broadcast was below average. I mean, frankly, you know,
Speaker 3: the fans deserve better than what I think Fox is
Speaker 3: giving them. It was interesting to see the how different
Speaker 3: the Fox the two Fox games were from the two
Speaker 3: ESPN games, and read you and I have talked before.
Speaker 3: Usually the Fox presentation has been so much better than
Speaker 3: the ESPN. Not that the ESPN presentation was bad but
Speaker 3: frankly Fox was better and there was no pregame. It
Speaker 3: was one of the things that I talked about when
Speaker 3: I said that I think Fox can make this a thing.
Speaker 3: How about at least maybe a ten minute pre game
Speaker 3: that gives you a little something. ESPN did that, and
Speaker 3: I don't understand why Fox did not. Joel Klatt does
Speaker 3: a great job. Give me Kevin Kugler and Joel Klatt
Speaker 3: to there you go, Leon Knows. Give me two guys
Speaker 3: who I think have a really, you know, a lot
Speaker 3: of interest in this league. Joel Clatt. Every time I
Speaker 3: hear him speak, it's like I'm learning something from him.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's so good. And Kevin Kugler has just
Speaker 3: like legitimate excitement for the league. At one point, Kurt
Speaker 3: Menafee called called the Houston Rough next to Houston Rough Riders.
Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing here? At some point?
Speaker 3: And you know, you have to get people in here
Speaker 3: who are invested. He fumbled so many times it's almost
Speaker 3: like he's parachuted in and he's just not interested in
Speaker 3: this league. For maybe the casuals, they don't really care.
Speaker 3: You obviously know it wasn't the Houston rough Riders for us,
Speaker 3: you know, hardcore fans. It's that's not what we want
Speaker 3: to see. It's almost it's almost insulting to watch something
Speaker 3: like that. And I hate to be hard on announcers.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I mean, you can go to my channel
Speaker 3: and see from about twenty years ago when I attempted
Speaker 3: to call college football play by play. It's very hard
Speaker 3: to do and I was no good at it, and
Speaker 3: that's why I'm sitting in my basement talking UFL with you.
Speaker 3: So we but there are people who are very good
Speaker 3: in the Fox stable, and I don't know why they
Speaker 3: continue to make Kurt Menafee the number one play by
Speaker 3: play guy for those kinds of things. As a Seahawks fan,
Speaker 3: he was the play by play guy for you know,
Speaker 3: Seahawks preseason and it was brutal every time. I'm just
Speaker 3: he's a fine studio host. But if the if Fox
Speaker 3: wants to make this a thing, there are a lot
Speaker 3: of ways to improve it from what we saw Friday
Speaker 3: night and what we frankly saw Saturday afternoon. And I
Speaker 3: think that's one piece of it. Yeah, ran over.
Speaker 2: No, And I agree.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because, like I said, people really do have
Speaker 1: their flavor. If you want the you know, esp under
Speaker 1: the Fox side. You know what I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot on the ESPN at folks is you get the
Speaker 1: not all the time in the heads of generous, you
Speaker 1: do get kind of the leftovers or the people working
Speaker 1: their way up.
Speaker 2: And so you get a lot of that.
Speaker 1: I turned on and you see Jordan Rodgers trying to
Speaker 1: sit there with whoever the side person was and airing
Speaker 1: the ESPN bets and they're.
Speaker 2: Like, what's like, what's the point swing of this game?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, we had the four quarterbacks and it's
Speaker 1: really they just don't even know what to talk about
Speaker 1: because you can't talk about betting on this league, and
Speaker 1: there's no one does anyway, and you certainly aren't going
Speaker 1: to bet on this game this league in week one
Speaker 1: when you don't even really know who these starting quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are going to be or whether they're going to play.
Speaker 1: Are they really doing two or they you know, we're okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to do one one quarter and one of
Speaker 1: the next. If the drive carries over, then we'll I mean,
Speaker 1: just I get all that, and it's league building and
Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out all this stuff.
Speaker 2: But then the announcers have nothing to talk about either.
Speaker 3: But I will say in ESPN's defense here, they did
Speaker 3: not beat us over the head with the gambling. I
Speaker 3: thought they integrated it pretty well. It wasn't you know.
Speaker 3: And hey man, Joe Tessitur was selling it to us too,
Speaker 3: But there they didn't, you know. I think last year
Speaker 3: there was too much talk they really tried to just
Speaker 3: kind of beat you over the head with the with
Speaker 3: the whole gambling aspect of it. I really like the
Speaker 3: way that they integrated it a little more and it
Speaker 3: seemed a lot more natural. But you're right, it's I
Speaker 3: don't know where these point spreads came from. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, and ESPN had prop bets, which that was interesting,
Speaker 3: but yeah, we had draft kings and bet MGM. I
Speaker 3: don't know if they ever I never could find anything
Speaker 3: as far as point spreads. I did see the futures
Speaker 3: on there, so I don't know where they got them.
Speaker 3: I am interested to see what the point spreads will
Speaker 3: be this week now where we have a little taste
Speaker 3: of what these teams might be. But again it's over
Speaker 3: reaction Monday all the time. After you know, a weekend
Speaker 3: of what we see for the first week, it's it's
Speaker 3: still coming together.
Speaker 1: In terms of just kind of the slow kick gob
Speaker 1: lyon here. As the comment players threatening to walk out
Speaker 1: lead the league didn't help matters in attendance, Erratians, I
Speaker 1: agree with that. You also had this weird excuse me for,
Speaker 1: and I'm really battling the illness of this. If I'm
Speaker 1: mute in comm I'm totally fine. I just said I
Speaker 1: am sick, and then the Mariners straighten up. Ron's like,
Speaker 1: now you sound really sick. But the you know you
Speaker 1: had that, we have obviously had the impending strike.
Speaker 2: Then we have Kevin. What's Kevin Seifert? Right? I should
Speaker 2: Kevin friends and show Kevin. You know. The players have
Speaker 2: issued a letter.
Speaker 1: We're going to give it to Dwayne Johnson when he
Speaker 1: shows up tonight. They've advertised that the Rock is going
Speaker 1: to be industan.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: It's old news Friday now at this point, considering they
Speaker 1: played the weekend. But I thought that was a very
Speaker 1: poorly written letter, a very poorly conceived kind of plan
Speaker 1: that this is what we're going to do because we're
Speaker 1: so frustrated with Darryl and Russ Brandon and we haven't
Speaker 1: been able to get through and you know, we want
Speaker 1: to get the Rock involved and kind of like corner
Speaker 1: him into this thing of like, well, we know you
Speaker 1: don't care, but you have more money and power, so
Speaker 1: please get involved in that.
Speaker 2: Then you had to come out that the Rock wasn't
Speaker 2: going to be there.
Speaker 1: But then it was a plane issue and he was
Speaker 1: supposed to go from Hawaii, and then he had did
Speaker 1: you watch all that where he posted like the pilot
Speaker 1: came out and got down anyway, so the Rock wasn't there.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, then the ratings were kind of stinky.
Speaker 1: He was advertised to the media and they pulled out.
Speaker 1: Like the whole thing was just weird. So like I
Speaker 1: don't even know what Fox or you Fella or anyone
Speaker 1: expected going into this. It was really just the weirdest
Speaker 1: Friday of like, okay, is this even happening here?
Speaker 2: Like what's going on?
Speaker 3: Well, and then you had you know, it was at Houston.
Speaker 3: I did do some research and I found I finally
Speaker 3: found the answer. America's Dome or whatever they call it
Speaker 3: there in Saint Louis was not available because the World
Speaker 3: of Asphalt Convention was happening, so they could not play
Speaker 3: Friday Night at the Dome. Still, I still believe they
Speaker 3: could have found a different game other than at Houston.
Speaker 3: You know, we kept joking about it, what a gamble
Speaker 3: you're gonna take here? No pun intended with Houston to
Speaker 3: you know, have this Friday night game there. You know
Speaker 3: it's outdoors, which you know they all are except for
Speaker 3: San Antonio, I guess in Saint Louis. But but it was,
Speaker 3: you know, they didn't show up. They didn't really show
Speaker 3: that much when it was at TDECU in the first place.
Speaker 3: They showed up less at Rice because people said Rice.
Speaker 3: It was. It was just a terrible set up all
Speaker 3: the way around. And then you know, I it was
Speaker 3: funny when I did a video and I had some
Speaker 3: and I talked about it was it was a gamble
Speaker 3: and will Houston fans show up? And somebody said, well,
Speaker 3: you're going to be making another video where you're apologizing
Speaker 3: to all the Houston fans, and that's not a video
Speaker 3: that's gonna get made. So we saw what was it,
Speaker 3: seven thousand announced and you know a lot of a
Speaker 3: lot of people dressed as empty chairs.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wanted to pull that up too. That's actually
Speaker 2: a great point.
Speaker 1: And we had talked and just speaking kind of ratings,
Speaker 1: then we will do all the games here. Because I
Speaker 1: got thoughts about Donald and the Panthers, and we've got
Speaker 1: stuff about that, and the posted in the post game
Speaker 1: with the Stallions and the defenders and all that.
Speaker 2: But uh, you you have if I'm looking here.
Speaker 1: At the schedule and I can pop this up, you know,
Speaker 1: because we had talked about this, and when we did
Speaker 1: the schedule breakdown, you know, so obviously Houston on that
Speaker 1: you knew that was going to be poor next week.
Speaker 1: I don't think ford Field is getting shown up for
Speaker 1: that as well. And then you do have a Friday
Speaker 1: in Birmingham week three TBD on that and a Birmingham
Speaker 1: and weather and heat and is it gonna be it
Speaker 1: is the tornado coming?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: We have other was the lightning strikes kind of all that.
Speaker 1: We'll see what that goes. You just aren't setting yourself
Speaker 1: up a lot. You're back at ford Field. You're just
Speaker 1: not setting yourself up well for that. We do have
Speaker 1: the final numbers on here. Let me make sure I
Speaker 1: point that up by see Max asking that I have
Speaker 1: two of the tabs or things bookmarks here Houston seven
Speaker 1: thousand again, and these are all on the high end.
Speaker 2: Right, they're the leads.
Speaker 3: These are announced crowds, right.
Speaker 1: Seven thousand that for Houston, ten for Arlington. I would
Speaker 1: feel good about that, just kind of given kind of
Speaker 1: given them back and forth of that Memphis sub five
Speaker 1: and then d C normally does about sixteen seventeen thousand
Speaker 1: if memory serves down to about twelve thousand for that
Speaker 1: For this Sunday night game. I mean, that's kind of
Speaker 1: your prime time, you know, Sunday night, that's kind of
Speaker 1: DC gets out a lot. Stallion's coming in. I should
Speaker 1: have you know, it could have been a really high
Speaker 1: atmosphere and the pretty live cluster.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know, again when we say announced crowds,
Speaker 3: anyone who's been around sports and professional college whatever, high
Speaker 3: level where you know seats matter and people and the
Speaker 3: fans matter. When you say announced crowd, that's not the
Speaker 3: crowd that showed up. Because I think if anyone watched
Speaker 3: that Memphis game, and frankly, Memphis is a lot better
Speaker 3: team and you know, so there there's not going to
Speaker 3: be I know, they lost, but there's not going to
Speaker 3: be a lot of excuses for those fans not to
Speaker 3: show up. Now, I will say the league needs to
Speaker 3: give them a solid here. They had an eleven o'clock
Speaker 3: am local time game. You're going up against the NCAA tournament,
Speaker 3: which unfortunately, I mean they didn't know at the time,
Speaker 3: but you know, the Tennessee volunteers are playing in the
Speaker 3: Sweet sixteen, so that's probably going to put a herd
Speaker 3: on the crowd. You've got the church crowd, who's not
Speaker 3: going to show up for an eleven o'clock game. There
Speaker 3: were just a lot of things that I thought could
Speaker 3: be wrong, and we talked about it last week. It
Speaker 3: felt like they maybe should should have flipped the d
Speaker 3: C Birmingham game with with that Memphis game, and I
Speaker 3: thought that might have been the better idea for that. Again,
Speaker 3: it's all about you know what's available and how you
Speaker 3: do it. I know there's strategy behind some of these things.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand what the strategy was there.
Speaker 2: Last comment here on this from me.
Speaker 1: We'll do a couple of comments and then we'll transition
Speaker 1: to the games here because I have a comment here
Speaker 1: that will lead to that. It's just hard and we've
Speaker 1: talked on here and people are always gonna talk ratings,
Speaker 1: and I've always said this on here, you the matchup
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily right. You have a lot of people, oh
Speaker 1: you know the DC Birmingham game generally it's dates and timeslots,
Speaker 1: so you you do want to position you know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like the horror car before the horse that way,
Speaker 1: So you want to position your best game in that
Speaker 1: best time slot. But I don't think people are watching
Speaker 1: the UFL based on the teams that are playing and
Speaker 1: then then the time slot.
Speaker 2: But I think the league, like.
Speaker 1: You said, needs to work on that because you look
Speaker 1: here at this the Friday night horrendous. So that let's
Speaker 1: look at just a couple comments here and then we'll
Speaker 1: have to that, you know, unforced errors made by the gravel.
Speaker 2: Aw does that time of attendance solid? The account tickets
Speaker 2: just should be dead? Where was the other one? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah here, so this will be where we transition.
Speaker 1: She got, Really, what's worse Houston's attendance or they're actually
Speaker 1: play on the field. Because here's the thing, right, Anthony Miller,
Speaker 1: and we're going to have our power rankings. We've had
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about, you know, Chris Johnson and
Speaker 1: everything for All Football Dot Com. Here the decision to
Speaker 1: keep critis to this year we said was bad.
Speaker 2: We kind of knew this was going to be bad.
Speaker 1: And then to kind of see what was going on
Speaker 1: here on the field, do you remove Curtis Johnson at
Speaker 1: this like what is your thoughts? A just on Houston
Speaker 1: the game right getting blown out by Saint Louis at home,
Speaker 1: but then just how bad they looked in the process.
Speaker 3: They didn't look competitive when you start talking about body language,
Speaker 3: you know, and I think it was like in the
Speaker 3: second quarter, it's like it was no, it was bad.
Speaker 3: There was one point where and they showed it a
Speaker 3: couple of different times where Tom Cable was talking to
Speaker 3: CJ and it almost felt like he was trying to
Speaker 3: tell him how to coach this team. Curtis Johnson looks
Speaker 3: a little lost sometimes on the sidelines, and I don't
Speaker 3: understand it's the criticism that we had last year. What
Speaker 3: we thought about going into this year was a surprise
Speaker 3: that he was coming back. You know, some of the
Speaker 3: play calling and I'm not play calling guy, but some
Speaker 3: of the play calling that we saw, I don't understand it.
Speaker 3: Now He's coached a lot more football than I have,
Speaker 3: but I did not understand a lot of it, and
Speaker 3: it led to what you're seeing right there on the
Speaker 3: screen thirty one to six, taking don't take anything away
Speaker 3: from Saint Louis. Manny Wilkins was incredible, and you know,
Speaker 3: I mean that team offensively and defensively, they were doing
Speaker 3: a lot of good things. But if Saint Louis had
Speaker 3: any questions or they really kind of needed it almost
Speaker 3: felt like a preseason game. It's like they've got some
Speaker 3: you know, they've kind of retooled a lot of things
Speaker 3: on offense. There was no better way to start the
Speaker 3: season for them than to play the Houston Roughnecks.
Speaker 1: Like you said, not to take anything away, right, So
Speaker 1: Saint louis Is is looking good here? Does that I
Speaker 1: don't know, does that negate anything they've done? What's the
Speaker 1: schedule coming up to week two? Here they'll be playing.
Speaker 2: I got too many freaking tabs open here.
Speaker 1: What what do you see Saint Louis doing here? Do
Speaker 1: you feel bullish on them? I mean the league needs
Speaker 1: them to be well to succeed.
Speaker 3: Agreed. You know, I don't want to again take a
Speaker 3: whole lot away from week one, especially week one and
Speaker 3: you're playing the Houston Roughnecks. But uh, you know they
Speaker 3: can get tested there in Week two with San Antonio.
Speaker 3: Now san Antonio didn't look great, but they're they're going
Speaker 3: to be a better team. Kellen Mond, a quarterback for
Speaker 3: San Antonio, when he starts to get into rhythm and
Speaker 3: kind of gets more comfortable, I think that's going to
Speaker 3: be a much better team. Saint Louis. I'm bullish on them.
Speaker 3: I was a little worried because of all kind of
Speaker 3: the coaching turmoil that happened before the season. Then there
Speaker 3: was the whole and we we've talked about that, you know,
Speaker 3: ad nauseum with the quarterback changes and everything. Uh, and
Speaker 3: then when they went into when they went into the season,
Speaker 3: they posted, you know, our starting quarterbacks, so it was
Speaker 3: like Manny Wilkins and Max Duggan. Well, sometimes if you
Speaker 3: got two quarterbacks, you don't have any But I think
Speaker 3: there was some talk about maybe making packages for different ones,
Speaker 3: for different quarterbacks, but there was no way to pull
Speaker 3: Manny Wilkins the way he was playing. You just couldn't
Speaker 3: do it. Now Max Duggan did get into the game late,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I just from that from that initial you
Speaker 3: know game, and you're trying to take what you can
Speaker 3: from a from a first game against the Houston Roughnecks.
Speaker 3: I like what I saw offensively and defensively.
Speaker 1: In terms of the AJ McCarron them at all. And
Speaker 1: there's been a lot made about his you know and
Speaker 1: pr and everything else with that. Do the battle Hawks
Speaker 1: need him, did the ratings need him? I don't think
Speaker 1: that would have mattered. I don't think he was that big.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to take anything away from
Speaker 1: him and kind of his popularity that way. But and
Speaker 1: we'll have to see we I mean, you can't look
Speaker 1: at the Rough, you know, the Rough next year and
Speaker 1: kind of give too much against the teams playing them.
Speaker 1: But it was that needed? Was it time to move on?
Speaker 1: It looks like I mean, they put up a ton
Speaker 1: of points.
Speaker 3: They did. You know, when Manny Wilkins had some opportunities,
Speaker 3: he did win a game for Saint Louis, but he
Speaker 3: didn't look great a couple of times, right, Leon's right.
Speaker 3: It was a layup for him, So yeah, you can
Speaker 3: hit layups all the time, so that I think that
Speaker 3: was probably a good thing. I yeah, I don't want
Speaker 3: to take anything away from AJ mccerron. I thought it
Speaker 3: was interesting that when he did leave. I've yet to
Speaker 3: hear any of his teammates really come to his defense.
Speaker 3: Maybe they have and I just haven't seen it, which
Speaker 3: is very possible. But I think that it felt like
Speaker 3: Saint Louis as a franchise, as a team, they were
Speaker 3: ready for something new and needed to go a little
Speaker 3: little bit in a different way, and that's what they
Speaker 3: did with Manny Wilkins and Max Duggan. And Max Duggan
Speaker 3: was a huge signing. But you know, Manny came in
Speaker 3: there and did what he did and looked off good
Speaker 3: in that first or in that first game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would want love to know the politics and
Speaker 1: obviously all team sports and especially football in.
Speaker 2: The locker room and kind of all that.
Speaker 1: But I would love to know, especially in the league
Speaker 1: like this with all of this stuff with the strikes
Speaker 1: and the labor and the rest and all that, like
Speaker 1: because yeah, you have someone like AJ mccerran. Imagine if
Speaker 1: he's still involved in this, right yeah, and the strike
Speaker 1: and like well do I like, I just there's so
Speaker 1: many different levels of like the players right where I
Speaker 1: feel like in the NFL, and obviously you're gonna you know,
Speaker 1: the mahomes versus you know, the fourth strings starty whatever.
Speaker 1: But like, I just feel like here in the UFL,
Speaker 1: you might have someone that's like, this is my last
Speaker 1: shot or this is my only shot and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look and.
Speaker 2: Craver, and then you have someone like a J.
Speaker 1: McCarran that's like, I'm just kind of over this, right,
Speaker 1: I just you know, hey, I can afford to do
Speaker 1: the strike.
Speaker 2: I have money saying I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I think it would be fascinating to know
Speaker 1: kind of the politics of all.
Speaker 3: Those Yeah, and if that is the case, I mean,
Speaker 3: if he felt that way, then he needed to make
Speaker 3: room for someone else to come in there to really,
Speaker 3: you know, take advantage of the art opportunity. I thought,
Speaker 3: Manny Wilkins in, I thought we saw a lot of
Speaker 3: players take advantage on on all the teams. You know,
Speaker 3: there were even even the bad ones except Houston. It's
Speaker 3: really hard to find a positive out of any of that.
Speaker 3: But it felt like, you know, with the other teams,
Speaker 3: there are there are players out there who are showing
Speaker 3: some promise and then others who are you know, making
Speaker 3: that next step. So far, again, it's week one, but still.
Speaker 1: We had a couple of comments here a that Houston's
Speaker 1: players played like they were already on the strike. That's good,
Speaker 1: they said here. You know, if AJ played for Houston,
Speaker 1: that would have been more interesting. I mean, what what
Speaker 1: do you do with Houston now? I had the other
Speaker 1: comment I was looking for here, talking about you know
Speaker 1: how Mark Thompson was having a field day on Twitter
Speaker 1: and like Toto, he was kind of going crazy.
Speaker 2: And I thought that he was a little boyschous over
Speaker 2: the years.
Speaker 1: But I've I've mellowed out a lot in this off
Speaker 1: sea terms of like my my stress level with all this,
Speaker 1: and Mark Thompson doesn't really bother me as much as
Speaker 1: like maybe he did last year, but like.
Speaker 2: What do you do with this Houston thing?
Speaker 1: And there was the other comment I forgot to pull
Speaker 1: up before I think it was Jared had said, you know,
Speaker 1: there was all this talk like t TDECU, like that's
Speaker 1: the holy Grail, like all we need to do is
Speaker 1: get them back. Well, obviously that doesn't fix the play
Speaker 1: on the field, right Australa didn't fix the attendance. But
Speaker 1: I just know what you don't. I don't know what
Speaker 1: you do with Houston now it's two years past, kind
Speaker 1: of keeping at the branding. I saw Brandon Silvers was
Speaker 1: tweeted about that. I had fun conversations with them behind
Speaker 1: the scenes as well. A lot of people kind of
Speaker 1: enjoying the Houston downfall right now, I guess if that
Speaker 1: makes sense.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I don't enjoy it because you
Speaker 3: need eight strong teams in this league for it to succeed, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you're right, Leon's right about that. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, there are a lot of people saying, we
Speaker 3: won't wade back. This was just this was It's brutal.
Speaker 3: Why why would you go number one? If you're if
Speaker 3: you're a football fan in Houston, why would you go
Speaker 3: to that? If they don't they're not putting something on
Speaker 3: the field. That's I think a lot of people want
Speaker 3: to watch obviously because they didn't show up, and the
Speaker 3: people who are in the know, not just the casual fan,
Speaker 3: the people who are in the know are probably like,
Speaker 3: why would we want to go back and see Curtis
Speaker 3: Johnson coaching again? You blew everybody out, you blow out
Speaker 3: the front office, you retool everything. Guy comes in there
Speaker 3: gets rid of like a you know, a dozen players
Speaker 3: or whatever it was, and then you kind of got
Speaker 3: the same thing, because what do you expect. You know,
Speaker 3: the buck usually stops at the head coach. And you
Speaker 3: know what we're seeing again, is I mean we've seen
Speaker 3: it happen before. Now we've seen we have seen a
Speaker 3: coach leave during the season. I think was when Rod Woodson,
Speaker 3: you know, left the Vipers, and that was a whole
Speaker 3: clown show in itself. You have to wonder if this continues.
Speaker 3: Now again, you can't pull the plug after week one,
Speaker 3: but if this continues, you have to think that the
Speaker 3: league has to have some difficult conversations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of comments here and then we'll move
Speaker 1: on Vihetian way. We're want to talk to some of
Speaker 1: these other teams. You can circle around. Yeah, Sam here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume this is Samschot is probably not Samshort's team,
Speaker 1: but watch he probably has this in a little avatar.
Speaker 1: There can anyone explain why CJ. Johnson was at Fire.
Speaker 1: We all saw this coming. David here says, I swear
Speaker 1: the Brandon simmers Mark tweets that were better than the game.
Speaker 1: And then here's the last one from Zach and then
Speaker 1: a long time listener here, Zach gets mad when we
Speaker 1: don't do the regular Fridays.
Speaker 2: Do you think the next episode fire him?
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Houston's reported rebuilt didn't look like one part.
Speaker 2: Of me things.
Speaker 1: It could have been the British show on Turf and
Speaker 1: still lose. Just horrendous and we're Houston with PJ Walker
Speaker 1: and Jean Joe like everything kind of used to be.
Speaker 1: To see in what four short year five whatever after
Speaker 1: COVID and everything, like to see this again. Not that
Speaker 1: you have a lot of like legacy and goodwill in
Speaker 1: spring football, but you did, right Like I was on
Speaker 1: Rod Show and we're talking that's the difference of the CFL.
Speaker 1: You know that the saskatchewanwrob Friders, you know what the
Speaker 1: BC Lions. You kind of know what these teams are
Speaker 1: and they have any good will at all and then.
Speaker 2: Get rid of it.
Speaker 1: To me, it would be each tandem out to you know,
Speaker 1: the defenders or the say Louis, I mean Houston was
Speaker 1: there in that top echelon and just it's really disappointed.
Speaker 3: Well and as the commenter there said, well, a go,
Speaker 3: it's it's ruined the brand. You know, whatever that brand
Speaker 3: might be, it's a brand that some people might not know.
Speaker 3: The casual viewer and if they know it now, it's
Speaker 3: like it's not great. And then for all of us
Speaker 3: who know Houston and know what it should be as
Speaker 3: it should be, the Gamblers, maybe that's what they do.
Speaker 3: Maybe they change back to the Gamblers because the rough
Speaker 3: next brand, I mean, it's it's you know, it's New Coke.
Speaker 1: Right now, last comment for me on this one and
Speaker 1: we'll move to the Renegades game. We had media members
Speaker 1: at I think to two of the events, like very
Speaker 1: low attended, just from if we want to talk at that,
Speaker 1: just you know, if you want to gauge ining just
Speaker 1: and something. I think there were three or four people
Speaker 1: in the press box in Houston Friday night, so that
Speaker 1: that just speaks to kind of the local media interest
Speaker 1: in this. I think that to me is another sign.
Speaker 1: Same with like the you know, the open practices in Arlington,
Speaker 1: but obviously you can't do a Memphis open practice in
Speaker 1: Memphis or either the gauge, but seeing three or four
Speaker 1: media members.
Speaker 2: At the Houston kickoff game.
Speaker 1: It speaks to that you have anything else on the
Speaker 1: blowout bloodbath at tv CU.
Speaker 3: On it's not worth talking about. It's really not.
Speaker 2: So let me get up.
Speaker 1: Here and I really need to kind of navigate this
Speaker 1: side at some point and kind of figure out how
Speaker 1: to pull this stuff up. But let's talk renegades here.
Speaker 1: Anthony was there bright and early covering this. Anthony Miller
Speaker 1: tons on Allfootball dot Com today. I think already he
Speaker 1: has you know, the four postgame reports of all the games.
Speaker 2: We have Russ and Danny's comments.
Speaker 1: I think Pat Raffino has his Players of the Week
Speaker 1: article up. It's been really busy, so like super excited
Speaker 1: for that, just because you know, I kind of just
Speaker 1: help with the back end of that.
Speaker 2: So check all that out.
Speaker 1: Anthony has eyewinnessed reports and all of this renegades take
Speaker 1: care of business. I heard that Aj smith it was
Speaker 1: none looking too happy postgame thoughts kind of on this
Speaker 1: one and anything else.
Speaker 3: Well, this this one, I mean, was a surprise, not
Speaker 3: necessarily a surprise that Arlington won, but a surprise that
Speaker 3: Arlington won, you know that big yeah. I thought, like
Speaker 3: Kellen Mond and AJ smith Man, you put like that
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator with that quarterback, like some good things can happen.
Speaker 3: I think good things will happen for san Antonio once
Speaker 3: he gets a little bit you know, more use to
Speaker 3: the system. You know, Luis Perez looked like Louis Perez.
Speaker 3: I mean, look at that twenty for twenty five hundred
Speaker 3: and sixty four yards. No, I didn't throw a touchdown,
Speaker 3: but you know, their running game going was going pretty well.
Speaker 3: So it's good to see them back. It was good
Speaker 3: to see the Bandits the logo back. That was pretty
Speaker 3: cool that they brought it back for the Helmets. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, it's the little things. I thought it was
Speaker 3: an interesting game, you know again, you know, you had
Speaker 3: poor Kurt Menafee, like we had a Devonte Smith, and
Speaker 3: we had like all kinds to just you know, disastrous
Speaker 3: calls there. What should you know, But it was exciting
Speaker 3: to see that. I think when Arlington is good that
Speaker 3: that helps the league. I mean, it would be nice
Speaker 3: if all eight teams you know were good. Listen, Arlington
Speaker 3: might be able to do some damage this year. It's
Speaker 3: it's not. I don't think this is going to be
Speaker 3: the team we saw last year.
Speaker 2: Uh, Anthony seems very high on them.
Speaker 1: I know that you were just at mister Luis Prez's
Speaker 1: kind of book Zoom and you have the copy. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised you were even able to put it down to
Speaker 1: a participation reading.
Speaker 2: Yeah, light reading.
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of thought the Luis story was
Speaker 1: kind of done. Right, He's doing the book and the tour,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of back and I'm gonna, I don't know, right,
Speaker 1: obviously hang on to this as long as not in
Speaker 1: a bad way, but participated as long as I can,
Speaker 1: and here you go. I mean, he's he's had a
Speaker 1: great game. I mean, how much how much gas do
Speaker 1: you think is left on that take? I'm just surprised.
Speaker 1: I really kind of thought this was like the farewell
Speaker 1: tour for Luiz.
Speaker 3: I thought exactly the same thing we've talked about it here.
Speaker 3: To me, you don't write a book if you're going
Speaker 3: to continue to play. But it was interesting that he
Speaker 3: said in in his virtual book tour that I attended
Speaker 3: that you know, if he you know, if his family
Speaker 3: is okay with it, if he feels good, if he's
Speaker 3: playing at a high level, he wants to continue to play.
Speaker 3: And he was very high on the UFL as a
Speaker 3: league and as the as we always say, the league
Speaker 3: of opportunity. He had nothing but good things to say. Now, again,
Speaker 3: I know this was a pr event. He wasn't there
Speaker 3: to make news. But you know he did talk about,
Speaker 3: you know, with the whole Viper situation, he was ready
Speaker 3: to retire, like he had had that conversation with his family,
Speaker 3: and he may have he may have told that story before,
Speaker 3: but he had had that conversation with his family. He
Speaker 3: gets traded to the Renegades and they win the XFL title,
Speaker 3: So I think that gave him a little bit more
Speaker 3: juice and he enjoyed playing the game again. It sounded
Speaker 3: like he did not enjoy playing it very much when
Speaker 3: he was with Vegas, and that was understandable because he's
Speaker 3: been through I mean, name a spring football league. I
Speaker 3: mean he I think he played for the World Football
Speaker 3: League back in the seventies. I don't been around forever.
Speaker 3: But he's playing at a high level. And we saw
Speaker 3: him play at a high level, you know, this weekend.
Speaker 3: So no, I absolutely, grid Iron Coasters is right.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: You have to appreciate his commitment to spring football. And
Speaker 3: you know he's he till he talked about the advice
Speaker 3: that he gives other quarterbacks. He's not in it just
Speaker 3: for himself. He's in there to kind of mentor these
Speaker 3: young guys. He still has that NFL dream but he
Speaker 3: also wants when the when football is finished, to coach.
Speaker 3: I think he'd be a great coach.
Speaker 1: Absolutely my only And then I have a couple of
Speaker 1: comments here because I do want to talk about san
Speaker 1: Antonio and kind of AJ Smith and all that.
Speaker 2: I just I love Louis. I mean I love Luis.
Speaker 1: He's been on the show, great guy filled in when
Speaker 1: we had all the like where Brian Scott I let
Speaker 1: go and then he had to come on.
Speaker 2: We just he's been very very amenable kind of over
Speaker 2: the years.
Speaker 1: I just whin he's like like him destroying and you know,
Speaker 1: Matt corral are like the three people that you point
Speaker 1: to for your league. That's where I have a problem
Speaker 1: because they had they seemingly used this week with the
Speaker 1: book tour and the UFL kickoff to be like, look
Speaker 1: at Louis Perez the face of this league and one
Speaker 1: of these and that's great for you or I, but
Speaker 1: you do get a lot of these casual comments like well,
Speaker 1: like what development has he had or how far has
Speaker 1: he got? You and I and we watched the games,
Speaker 1: and so I just I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: put all the hopes and dreams same with destroyings you
Speaker 1: know right foot. I don't know if I would put
Speaker 1: all my hopes and dreams of the UFL on Louis
Speaker 1: press any other thoughts on that, because I do. We'll
Speaker 1: talk prahmise and then we'll talk destroying here, But any
Speaker 1: other thoughts on Luis or the Renegades.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I think you make a good point. But I think
Speaker 3: also you see that he has gotten opportunities in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Like it's not like he's he's as pat Raffino and
Speaker 3: I have talked about, and I know you've talked about
Speaker 3: him too, it feels like Louis Perez is a four
Speaker 3: A player. He's he's maybe better than Spring League, but
Speaker 3: he's not quite to the level of the NFL. And
Speaker 3: that's fine because he continues to do it. And I
Speaker 3: think he is a valuable commodity. But you're right. If
Speaker 3: you're a naysayer, you can say, well, yeah, he's not
Speaker 3: developed that much, but look, but he has. He's been
Speaker 3: in NFL camps, and I mean, I think that's all
Speaker 3: you can ask, really, is your opportunity to get into
Speaker 3: those camps and try.
Speaker 1: For the bramis here And I had a comment I
Speaker 1: wanted to pull up from David, and he also has
Speaker 1: a comment about the bandit's logo if I remember that,
Speaker 1: but as the blim come off. AJ Smith, I love
Speaker 1: the guy. It's been a lot since I've seen his
Speaker 1: trademark offensive fireworks.
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: And we obviously last year and we had the injuries
Speaker 1: and all that, and everyone knows the championship game and
Speaker 1: Garber's and all of that, and just kind of the
Speaker 1: collapse and the Brahmas.
Speaker 2: But I agree with that statement from David. Do you
Speaker 2: agree with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But I mean you have to look it back
Speaker 3: to back games with A J. Smith a terrible uflchampionship,
Speaker 3: and then you open the season like this. Now, there
Speaker 3: are a lot of there are a lot of things
Speaker 3: that play, especially quarterback in the UFL championship game and
Speaker 3: then really quarterback in a different way in this first game. Again,
Speaker 3: like I've said, now this will be the third time.
Speaker 3: I think if Kellen Mond gets comfortable in that system
Speaker 3: that he he could be really good. But you're right.
Speaker 3: All the time we were just talking about how it
Speaker 3: felt like A. J. Smith should be a head coach
Speaker 3: in this league or some league some somewhere. He should
Speaker 3: be a head coach.
Speaker 2: But do you still think that I do.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about two games here, and I
Speaker 3: think we're talking about two games that I don't know
Speaker 3: that was play calling on his end. I mean, you're
Speaker 3: trying to you're trying to work through a system, and
Speaker 3: there's some work to do. I don't know if the
Speaker 3: bloom has come off just yet, but there's a there's
Speaker 3: a like a coffee ring on his resume right now,
Speaker 3: and he's just gonna he'll he'll continue to get better
Speaker 3: and I think we're going to see a lot more
Speaker 3: at a San Antonio than what we saw in week one.
Speaker 1: What I do like is a league like this giving
Speaker 1: him time to grow. I'm ma sure, I'm learned that way.
Speaker 2: I am a huge A J.
Speaker 3: Smith.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, don't get me wrong on it, but
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: And because I am the casual person that hosts this show, right,
Speaker 1: I mean like that is but I I can say
Speaker 1: that from watching you know the promise you're technically my
Speaker 1: team even you know whatever I disappointed last year, you know,
Speaker 1: yeah you might know what happened.
Speaker 3: Actually I do remember that now.
Speaker 1: But but but that question he or two, why was
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips up in the booths. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of comments about that, a lot of questions. Weird to
Speaker 1: see the head.
Speaker 2: Coach up there?
Speaker 3: He you know, there was They briefly mentioned it. They
Speaker 3: showed him in the booth, you know. I remember them
Speaker 3: saying that he was up there he wanted his coordinators
Speaker 3: to you know, like be filled level. But I think A. J.
Speaker 3: Smith was also in the booth, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm I'm not sure what was going on there.
Speaker 3: I think he did come down toward the end of
Speaker 3: the game, but it was almost you know, it's like
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones coming down at the end of the game,
Speaker 3: like I did. I didn't get that. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: that we're going to see that again. I mean, unless
Speaker 3: there was something else going on that, you know, that
Speaker 3: he needed to sit down rather than stand. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Also, I mean, like chalk Taw Stadium isn't like your
Speaker 1: traditional football stadium anyway, we're like, oh, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know. I mean, are you sitting
Speaker 1: in the commentator like that? To me is kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: Also where it's not like you're actually in a you know,
Speaker 1: in the whatever. Okay, let's talk now. We had the
Speaker 1: infamous So I'm at a wedding show. I have the
Speaker 1: game on my phone, this slow wedding show.
Speaker 2: So we're there.
Speaker 1: I'm at my table. Destroying makes a kick. Donald made
Speaker 1: the kick. Made the kick, professional kick.
Speaker 2: First, professional kick first? What was it? Thirty nine yards? Right?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 1: And I tweeted, thank god Donald made a kick. We
Speaker 1: don't need to talk about this anymore. Everyone knows my thoughts.
Speaker 1: I think I don't have any issues at all with Donald.
Speaker 1: I just think that I I this goes for the WWE.
Speaker 2: This goes for the UFL or the EXCE.
Speaker 1: I hate it when brands bend over backwards too, for
Speaker 1: any celebrity that comes in their way.
Speaker 2: WWE.
Speaker 1: He used to do this forever, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: you get like Jeremy Piven on from Entrage. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's Jeremy Piven from Like, let's not act
Speaker 1: like it anyway, you know. So that's just my problem.
Speaker 1: He makes the kick rocket and then he misses another kick.
Speaker 1: Katley not even closed.
Speaker 2: So I'm like that's why again.
Speaker 1: Hey, Like as big as Destroying is, he's still a
Speaker 1: special teams guy. I would never base my leagues anything
Speaker 1: around promoting.
Speaker 2: Obviously we have all Kwandi.
Speaker 1: Turpin and I'm like, that's all we have, and then
Speaker 1: we haven't. Then he misses John, what did you think
Speaker 1: of this?
Speaker 3: Well, you know you talk about special teams. One of
Speaker 3: the guys I felt bad for was you know, Marque King,
Speaker 3: who was out there trying to be the hype man
Speaker 3: and he's, you know, a hype man in front of
Speaker 3: ten thousand people. You know, he tried. He's an entertainer
Speaker 3: and he's Uh. Also, if I'm a punter in this league,
Speaker 3: I've got some problems with the rules. That's another story.
Speaker 3: But uh but yeah, I mean you get it. The
Speaker 3: UFL wants to cash in and get this audience. We've
Speaker 3: talked about it before. There's a reason. I mean, if
Speaker 3: you see the UFL account, if there's you know, if
Speaker 3: the ratio of destroying posts versus pretty much everything else. Now,
Speaker 3: let me say this though, they were cranking out the
Speaker 3: videos because I have an alert for the UFL like
Speaker 3: anything on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's all they care about. They're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, you gotta get I mean.
Speaker 3: But I'll give them credit. They were you know, you'd
Speaker 3: see a great play and then I mean, two minutes
Speaker 3: later in my phone, I'd have a I'd have an.
Speaker 2: Alert and are job. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 3: I loved it. So yeah, you know, I cash in
Speaker 3: where you can. You know, you've got to try to
Speaker 3: strike and find these younger fans where they are, and
Speaker 3: you know, maybe they continue to think that they'rew destroying
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 1: Any other thoughts. I guess I'm going to pull up
Speaker 1: the other games here. This website is horrible. Any other
Speaker 1: thoughts on this San Antonio, Saint Louis got or not St.
Speaker 2: Louis, you know, a kind of any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: Any other thought?
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, there's one thing that the UFL's got to
Speaker 3: fix here. It's this awkward thing at the beginning where
Speaker 3: they present the game ball and then no one knows
Speaker 3: what to do. I mean, I'm nitpicking here, but it
Speaker 3: was so awkward last year, and they did it a
Speaker 3: few times, and it happened again this it happened again
Speaker 3: in some of the first games we've got. We've got
Speaker 3: to fix that. Other than that, I thought it was,
Speaker 3: you know, it was, it was a good game. It
Speaker 3: was it was fine. And and Arlington is I think
Speaker 3: they're going to be a much better team than they
Speaker 3: were last year.
Speaker 2: All right, so let's talk about that. So I was
Speaker 2: so excited to send them off. You know, I'm going
Speaker 2: to go to the Mariner game, but I go good,
Speaker 2: I'm going to see her.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch I thought it was the Birmingham game first.
Speaker 1: I was so excited. This was the game I had
Speaker 1: and I had to get. I go, God forbid the
Speaker 1: one game I'm able to watch live.
Speaker 2: St I. You know, is this got a little close.
Speaker 1: I had joked with you because we were texting about
Speaker 1: kind of the over under of this, and I think
Speaker 1: it was thirty eight.
Speaker 2: And a half at the beginning of the game. It
Speaker 2: was ten to three.
Speaker 1: And this game and this first half of Phil's fell
Speaker 1: to me like a lot of these CFL games where
Speaker 1: you get to the last like two minutes before half
Speaker 1: and it takes half an hour. And it was brutal
Speaker 1: and we're in, We're kicking, We're like all this. So, hey,
Speaker 1: what did you make of the game? Uh, Panthers win
Speaker 1: here show buzz I did not look think looked well?
Speaker 1: I did. The attendance had its own issues, is well,
Speaker 1: what did you make of this one? Not a great
Speaker 1: showing in my opinion on the Sunday Mornings.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, you know, and it's there was the Desperation
Speaker 3: pick six, which almost you know, almost hit the over
Speaker 3: there if they didn't hit the conversion. But I thought that,
Speaker 3: you know, with Joe tess And and Jordan Rodgers, I
Speaker 3: mean to me, I thought that it was a better crew.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just coming out from the TV perspective,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if you noticed or not, but
Speaker 3: apparently ESPN has bought the rights to a red hot
Speaker 3: chili Peppers can't stop because we heard it. I mean
Speaker 3: it's I'm still hearing it in mya. But I thought
Speaker 3: the presentation was good. You know, Tom Lougan Bill talking
Speaker 3: you know, talking to coaches during I mean during plays,
Speaker 3: Mike Nolan going all in, had the headset on and
Speaker 3: was talking here. I just thought that was really cool.
Speaker 3: They had about a ten minute pregame where they were
Speaker 3: you know, it was I thought it was a good introductory,
Speaker 3: you know, for people who might not have seen the UFL.
Speaker 3: I just thought overall, and then as I said, you know,
Speaker 3: they did a really good job with integrating some of
Speaker 3: the gambling aspects. I think one thing we did learning
Speaker 3: Bryce Perkins is a real deal. I mean there's no
Speaker 3: question about that. You know, efficient there you see that,
Speaker 3: Troy Williams. I mean there's some work there. E J. Perry,
Speaker 3: There's some work to do. But you but for everything
Speaker 3: that Memphis has gone through here recently, I thought it
Speaker 3: was a better showing than maybe they would have They
Speaker 3: would have had, you know, some excuses if they didn't,
Speaker 3: you know, if they showed up and looked like some
Speaker 3: of the panther I mean, some of the show boat
Speaker 3: teams that we had seen in the past. So I've
Speaker 3: said before and I know you kind of laughed because
Speaker 3: it is funny. I said that they might be poised
Speaker 3: for the biggest turnaround in the UFL. Does that mean
Speaker 3: winning three games or four games games? I don't know,
Speaker 3: but you know, if there was a this might have
Speaker 3: been one of the better you know, two touchdown blowouts
Speaker 3: here that are not blowouts, but two touchdown games that
Speaker 3: we saw.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 1: I did like the interactions with Mike Nolan and we're
Speaker 1: talking on the side. I kind of made fun because
Speaker 1: they're like, well, what did you think of the quarterbacks?
Speaker 1: And you know, because they're doing the two well, you know,
Speaker 1: we played last year and we played three we played
Speaker 1: three games.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're just taking kind of whatever. You're making
Speaker 1: the best you can here with all this. But I
Speaker 1: did like that. I forgot to mention you. I like
Speaker 1: seeing that friend of the program a Brock brock huer On.
Speaker 1: Was that the Friday game? You know, Brock's the one
Speaker 1: that I'm going to say. You know, he's always the
Speaker 1: one on the sideline. You know, Rock kind of made
Speaker 1: that be a thing, and so.
Speaker 2: I like that a lot. I I write Brock a
Speaker 2: lot here.
Speaker 1: He doesn't Marriner show you know, every well, he does
Speaker 1: it every day.
Speaker 2: But I'm a big fan of him.
Speaker 1: But I like the access with that you agree with
Speaker 1: kind of the different broad broadcast angles.
Speaker 2: And kind of all that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the chili pepper is that didn't maybe I
Speaker 1: just mut it when I go to break like I did,
Speaker 1: I did not.
Speaker 3: Have it's I mean, it was non stop, you can't stop.
Speaker 3: But you also, you know, and then you had access
Speaker 3: to to to Jared Horton, who you know, we got
Speaker 3: at least one or two f bombs out of him,
Speaker 3: but you know, to talk to him during as he's
Speaker 3: you know, being interviewed and talking during the play or
Speaker 3: at least I just thought like the way that ESPN
Speaker 3: really did the presentation of this game, and even though
Speaker 3: it might have not been the you know, the greatest
Speaker 3: game of the Slate weekend Slate, I thought the presentation
Speaker 3: was there. It was solid, especially again after the two
Speaker 3: you know, kind of Fox presentations we.
Speaker 1: Got obviously the show Boats and the head coach and
Speaker 1: said me down all that here this week? Do you
Speaker 1: read do we want a week to kind of refresh that?
Speaker 1: Do you think the show Boats have kind of any
Speaker 1: upsides here? And just kind of curious moving forward thoughts
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 3: I think they do. I think they As I said,
Speaker 3: I think they performed a lot better than maybe a
Speaker 3: lot of us, a lot of us expected. I know,
Speaker 3: the one thing we saw there was a shot there
Speaker 3: of Mike Nolan and there was Darryl Johnston behind him
Speaker 3: wearing his blazer and his UFL shirt and he had
Speaker 3: this pain to look on his face. And in fact,
Speaker 3: you know, they he talked after the game to the
Speaker 3: Memphis Commercial Appeal and it was you know, saying like
Speaker 3: we have got to figure out a way to you know,
Speaker 3: to get some fan engagement here to the point where
Speaker 3: he was saying, maybe we need to consult the Bill's mafia,
Speaker 3: like how do we get the fan engagement? Which I
Speaker 3: thought was interesting kind of to bring them up in
Speaker 3: this article, But it almost sounded like, now I'm reading quotes,
Speaker 3: so I didn't hear it. So there's a lot of
Speaker 3: difference between when you read a quote and when you
Speaker 3: hear someone say it. But it almost felt like there's
Speaker 3: an ultimatum there, like this, we have got to find
Speaker 3: a way to make this work in parentheses unsaid or else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't advocate for anyone to lose
Speaker 1: their job, but if you if you have been hired
Speaker 1: to be the Memphis ticket people, and we know and
Speaker 1: they've been all these cities and we've had all this
Speaker 1: big off season push for all of that, and I
Speaker 1: haven't been obviously back with was it Andy right where
Speaker 1: Corey the big Orlando one forever? That was very vocal
Speaker 1: on But I don't know a lot of Like I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: If Samantha is running the Memphis.
Speaker 1: I don't know like whoever it is, But yeah, how
Speaker 1: do you walk into that stadium with forty three hundred
Speaker 1: tickets sold? Distributed however you want to call it and
Speaker 1: go like, yeah, this is awesome. I mean this is
Speaker 1: year three of this, right, I mean because we did
Speaker 1: the UFL second hub, right, and what would that been
Speaker 1: of twenty three and then twenty four and twenty five that,
Speaker 1: like I tweeted, I mean, the Memphis experiment needs to end.
Speaker 1: I mean this is just you know, and you had
Speaker 1: fred Smith and FedEx and all of that that's never
Speaker 1: really materialized. I mean you Harrold, you know they wanted
Speaker 1: FedEx here and he's going to buy the team, and
Speaker 1: see this is just one of the first owners and
Speaker 1: we're gonna sell all these none of it's I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't see any way in the world you look
Speaker 1: at the Memphis show buck to any of these teams
Speaker 1: and go, oh yeah, I'm gonna spend you know, twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars to buy this franchise, like or whatever the
Speaker 1: heck it would be.
Speaker 3: Well, right, I mean, like what you know, you're like
Speaker 3: you've said before, like what are you buying? Memphis has
Speaker 3: done a lot of things to get out in the community,
Speaker 3: and I just wonder, like what's the disconnect here? Like
Speaker 3: they do so much stuff their social media stuff to
Speaker 3: me is really really good. Like you said, I just
Speaker 3: don't understand where the disconnect is now. I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't know that you pull the plug after after week
Speaker 3: one and say like, Okay, that's it. You know, we'll
Speaker 3: play out the string again. Stop having you know, eleven
Speaker 3: am local time games in Memphis. That's just that's not
Speaker 3: gonna work. But I will be interested to see and
Speaker 3: hopefully if the weather holds out here in a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks, I'm thinking about going down there to kind
Speaker 3: of check it out, and you know, hopefully we'll have
Speaker 3: good weather and maybe a good crowd.
Speaker 2: We'll uh, yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Any other thoughts on that, We'll get the last game
Speaker 1: here and then we'll we'll get out at the top
Speaker 1: of the hour. I'm going I'm going to see snow
Speaker 1: Light tonight with my brother John. We're gonna go have
Speaker 1: a beer and go see I gotta see how bad
Speaker 1: this movie is.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna go hate watch snow White.
Speaker 1: I am gonna go hate watch snow Light. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then anyway, so we'll do all that. Any other thoughts
Speaker 1: on that before we get to the last game, No,
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 3: Let's let's not pull the plug on Memphis just yet.
Speaker 3: Let's listen, Let's give them some time. I mean, you
Speaker 3: know they might be living on borrowed time, but let's
Speaker 3: give them a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I I tweeted out because we had the group chat
Speaker 1: going during the game, and I tweeted out, you know,
Speaker 1: broke is UFL expansion, but woke is UFL reduction and
Speaker 1: getting rid of Memphis and Houston. Roll those players into
Speaker 1: the other six teams. Use that money to you know,
Speaker 1: use the excess money to to pay the players more,
Speaker 1: get year round health insurance. We we were talking in
Speaker 1: the in the in the group chat, I think if
Speaker 1: I think if you had kept with the Spring league
Speaker 1: model as opposed to all this glitz and glamour and
Speaker 1: money and Fox and everything that got dumped into this,
Speaker 1: I would be really curious where we are now. And
Speaker 1: even if you only have six or eight Spring League teams,
Speaker 1: they got four hundred and fifty thousand for their championship.
Speaker 1: I know the players didn't get paid and all that,
Speaker 1: but like if you couldn't progress versus that, I think
Speaker 1: once you slap USFL on this Fox product back in
Speaker 1: twenty two, and it set a standard that was never
Speaker 1: going to hit without the necessary.
Speaker 2: Engagement or you know, engagement and investment.
Speaker 1: But I would just be curious if we still have
Speaker 1: the jousterers and the aviators running around.
Speaker 2: It, are are you pulling much less?
Speaker 3: Well, that's the question. Would it be that much different
Speaker 3: than what you have right now? I mean, I think
Speaker 3: that is a great what if question.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the greatest one the quick
Speaker 1: leonne I agree with all this.
Speaker 2: I agree with everything that like leon is eight and on.
Speaker 2: I agree. I just have to see how bad of this.
Speaker 1: So anyway, last game here, you know, was exciting for
Speaker 1: this one DC you know, and obviously the head coach
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, but they always show out field.
Speaker 1: I think d C sports is just really hot right
Speaker 1: now anyway, obviously coming off the Commander season, the Capitols
Speaker 1: or I just think they're like the Nationals d C
Speaker 1: sports because that's my feed obviously because of the Commander's
Speaker 1: fandom right living here at Seattle, take care, you know,
Speaker 1: knockoff the the Birmingham Stallions.
Speaker 2: What did you make of this?
Speaker 3: Well, we were all excited to see the return of
Speaker 3: Alex Magoo and you know, he looked he looked good
Speaker 3: early on and then whatever Greg Williams was, you know,
Speaker 3: as we say, defensive coordinators don't call plays, they dial
Speaker 3: up pressures and whatever he was dialing up, Birmingham could
Speaker 3: not figure it out. And there were times where you
Speaker 3: don't see Skip Holtz a lot, especially on Mike kind
Speaker 3: of I don't want to say lose his temper, but
Speaker 3: he was, you know, he was getting pretty hot and
Speaker 3: he and Alex Magoo were having some some strong conversations there.
Speaker 3: D c's defense, Uh, you know, as far as like
Speaker 3: trying to stop the pass was always kind of a
Speaker 3: problem and that that was not a problem for them.
Speaker 3: Whatever they whatever Greg Williams was doing was working, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, and and Jordan tim who looked and listen,
Speaker 3: no one. I finally found someone who has more of
Speaker 3: a problem of pronouncing Jordan tom whose name than I do.
Speaker 3: And it was the play by play guy, uh for ESPN.
Speaker 3: I mean there was a tamumu when there one time.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not even kidding, but that looked like
Speaker 3: a different DC team. You know, we talked about uh
Speaker 3: body lank you know, graduates of Body Language University, the
Speaker 3: body language on that on that d C team, it
Speaker 3: was a lot different man. They were hyped. They looked good.
Speaker 3: You saw like even just having Abram Smith back in
Speaker 3: the lineup, not even necessarily like with handoffs, but just
Speaker 3: the how hard he plays and blocks and does everything.
Speaker 3: He's such a key to that. And I just that
Speaker 3: looked like a much better team than what we saw.
Speaker 3: Just seemed to like just kind of write it out
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 1: Just speaking of the Greg Williams started it up. I
Speaker 1: forgot to mention that. Excuse me, the Jaron Horten, like,
Speaker 1: you know, can we yes, sam Otra right, guy's a
Speaker 1: little break like Jared's trying to like dial I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's calling place and he's like, well, Jaren's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I predict leave the man alone.
Speaker 2: He's playing like he's calling place. Leave him alone.
Speaker 3: You could have picked a better time.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: It was interesting when when they were on offense, you know,
Speaker 3: they he was really starting to talk. He was able
Speaker 3: to talk to him because he wasn't calling plays, uh
Speaker 3: and just talking about some different things. So I thought
Speaker 3: that was, you know, that was good. But you're right,
Speaker 3: he's asking him a question and then you see you
Speaker 3: see Jaron Horton like picking up the walkie talkie to
Speaker 3: start to talk. He's like, but he I mean held
Speaker 3: with it. He didn't. He wasn't you know, he wasn't
Speaker 3: like like pushing him away. But he's I got to
Speaker 3: call this play here because we're trying to win a game.
Speaker 1: I I yes, I tweeted and I said, there's a
Speaker 1: very vocal part of the internet.
Speaker 2: It was very excited to.
Speaker 1: See Jared hord He is quite excited and not to
Speaker 1: go back to that game, but it was, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like sam like discovered real time. Like I I
Speaker 1: hate Emmanuel Acho. I cannot stand that man. I know
Speaker 1: Andy hates him because of the way he talks about
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. But Samacho has the least charisma of any
Speaker 1: man I've ever met them.
Speaker 2: I mean I've never like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Man with least charisma. That's on TV and then sam
Speaker 1: Otcho and him. But Jared Horton carried that segment that
Speaker 1: says a lot about like sam Ocho is like future
Speaker 1: and television that Jared Horton is saving him on this
Speaker 1: live segment. But what's see next week because he's gonna
Speaker 1: go try again next week and some other DC is
Speaker 1: gonna be like get out of my Like, do you
Speaker 1: think Greg Williams get out of my face?
Speaker 3: I don't know Greg Williams. It seems to me he's Karen.
Speaker 3: I just sure you're not.
Speaker 2: He used to love but God bless him. But I
Speaker 2: just just to go back to them.
Speaker 3: Greg Williams is never meta caamer. He didn't like so
Speaker 3: I don't know it. But but there will be one.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be an offensive coordinator or a head coach
Speaker 3: or that's you know, eventually going to give him the
Speaker 3: Bill Parcells, you know, get out of here, you know,
Speaker 3: leave us lung. But I think, also, I do wonder
Speaker 3: if it's not almost ingrained in some of these coaches
Speaker 3: that listen. These guys are part of the league. Just
Speaker 3: they're they're just like the referees and everything else. They're
Speaker 3: part of this game. So you know, hopefully and most
Speaker 3: of them will understand, like, yes, he's gonna ask me
Speaker 3: a question at the most inopportune time, I'll just have
Speaker 3: to say, give me a second. I did, Like what
Speaker 3: one was awesome. Cole Kublick was out there talking to
Speaker 3: the kicker before he was on the field, before he's
Speaker 3: getting ready to kick off. I can't remember it was
Speaker 3: after after a score or whatever it was. But I
Speaker 3: just thought that was really that was really interesting and
Speaker 3: well done that he was just standing out there, He's
Speaker 3: getting ready to kick off. He's like, okay, thanks, kicker
Speaker 3: says all right, thank you, and then.
Speaker 2: He just kicks off.
Speaker 3: It was great.
Speaker 1: I I'm not the biggest I like Cole, He've been
Speaker 1: on the show, but I'm not the biggest fan of his,
Speaker 1: like his his sidelines.
Speaker 2: I think Brock has a little bit more of.
Speaker 3: Like the hey, you know, go.
Speaker 2: To hey hey, and he's always guys like all right,
Speaker 2: what's coming cold?
Speaker 1: Anyway, the last thing about this, David says, sounds like
Speaker 1: his mouth is falling down the st like that. So
Speaker 1: let's get to this because I do need to get
Speaker 1: out at the top of the door this post game again,
Speaker 1: I completely missed this, Like I saw great. I think
Speaker 1: I think Greg Parks and people they tweeted last night
Speaker 1: like did they say doormat or dorman and someone needs
Speaker 1: to ask. I was out of it, like Dorothy and Ireary.
Speaker 1: I was so out of it, but then I saw
Speaker 1: the clips that I was like, oh my god, so
Speaker 1: what did you this was? You know, for teams that
Speaker 1: are really close and fly together and bust together and
Speaker 1: live together.
Speaker 2: It's interesting.
Speaker 3: Well, I watched the post game with Shannon Harris and
Speaker 3: someone did ask him about it, and he just said
Speaker 3: it was really vague. It was kind of like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, we're fine now. I went and talked to
Speaker 3: some of the assistant coaches and just wanted to make
Speaker 3: sure we're all on the same page. And you know,
Speaker 3: it's something that didn't really make a lot of sense
Speaker 3: to me. But I will say I don't know that
Speaker 3: Harry Douglas, who was doing the sidelines, saw exactly what happened,
Speaker 3: because he immediately brought him over. He did say like,
Speaker 3: why are you so hyped up? And he was just like, oh,
Speaker 3: it was a big, big win. And that's what I
Speaker 3: heard too. When someone had posted kind of a cleaned
Speaker 3: up sound. You couldn't really hear it that well on
Speaker 3: the broadcast, but someone I saw today had posted where
Speaker 3: you kind of clean up the sound and hear it
Speaker 3: and it sounded like he said doorman, like you know
Speaker 3: you said, I was the doorman at at the at
Speaker 3: the UFL headquarters. I still don't understand what. I could
Speaker 3: never find context for what any of this meant, And
Speaker 3: there were a lot of people who were coming to
Speaker 3: skip Holtz defense saying like, if he ever said anything
Speaker 3: like that, it would have been ingest, not in a
Speaker 3: you know, it wouldn't have been something where it was
Speaker 3: an insult. And in fact, skip Holtz seem pretty taken
Speaker 3: aback by now. I mean, I'm not I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to defend either one of them. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 3: I just know what I saw there, and like skip Holtz,
Speaker 3: I kind of grabbed him by the shirt and tried
Speaker 3: to bring it back like, no, I didn't say that,
Speaker 3: or that's not what I meant, And yeah, I could.
Speaker 3: It sounded like he said he was a doorman at
Speaker 3: the at the UFL headquarters. I'm not sure, but it was.
Speaker 3: It was a little a little spicy something for the
Speaker 3: for the end of the weekend.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: If this was if it's, if this were the old
Speaker 3: XFL back in two thousand and one, it would be
Speaker 3: a total thing and they'd have them like, you know,
Speaker 3: fisticuffs out in fifty yard line or something. But I
Speaker 3: don't think they're going to try to build up anything
Speaker 3: out of this. Those are two professional guys. I hope.
Speaker 3: I know Skip Holtz is I don't know a lot
Speaker 3: about Shannon Harris.
Speaker 1: Well, and I I could imagine just you know, I
Speaker 1: don't even I don't even want to speculate too much
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not not.
Speaker 1: I guess what I would say is this, I think
Speaker 1: Skip Holtz is a pretty even keeled person. They've really
Speaker 1: done a good job to spotlight him, you know, coaching
Speaker 1: up quarterbacks, talking with Magoo, like you said, during this
Speaker 1: game and last season we saw him working with all
Speaker 1: the people.
Speaker 2: So I don't. Yes, I agree, and then maybe it
Speaker 2: was a misunderstanding or whatever, but it was hot. I
Speaker 2: mean I like it. I like it. You know, it
Speaker 2: makes it hey, I mean you want the games to matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously they mattered, and this was you know,
Speaker 3: Birmingham already disappointed, and you know, and what again, like
Speaker 3: what DC has gone through, uh right before the season,
Speaker 3: and you got to think that these guys aren't even
Speaker 3: going to be around if there is a UFL season three.
Speaker 3: They're all you know that that DC crew might be
Speaker 3: at Tennessee State. So uh, but yeah, it was an
Speaker 3: interesting way to end the weekend for sure.
Speaker 1: Last thing here real quick, Yes, Birmingham's going to be
Speaker 1: in UH in Detroit on Friday night here and then
Speaker 1: we have Saturday. We're going to have the show votes
Speaker 1: here Defenders Houston, be a Battle of the Texas whatever
Speaker 1: on on Saturday the sixth, and then San Antonio going
Speaker 1: into Saint Louis.
Speaker 2: What's your most look two games?
Speaker 1: Just as we get out of here, everyone's sacking round.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stallions Panthers by far. I mean it's you know,
Speaker 3: the Stallions have to figure out what they're going to do.
Speaker 3: Skip Holtz said after the game, there wasn't really you know,
Speaker 3: he's not gonna play two quarterbacks or didn't really feel
Speaker 3: like he needed to. And he talked about like last
Speaker 3: year he couldn't really do it. But and he talked
Speaker 3: about the personalities involved. So I don't know what's going
Speaker 3: on there. So that's gonna be the interesting one. You know,
Speaker 3: Alex Magoo if he is the starter versus Bryce Perkins, uh,
Speaker 3: and you know Birmingham are they gonna they're going to
Speaker 3: try to turn it around? How many dozens of fans
Speaker 3: are going to show up for the game. To me,
Speaker 3: that's that That's the game that I'm keeping the biggest
Speaker 3: eye on. For sure.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about them putting them? They Battlehawk's home
Speaker 1: opener on f.
Speaker 3: S F S one.
Speaker 2: What do we do? I mean, I just can't figure
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 1: I know there's like they would say, they would say,
Speaker 1: there's a reason, John, But oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Is the see that is? Is that's Sunday night. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what I don't I don't.
Speaker 1: Get Well, it's too thirty Eastern time, so it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. Oh no, I'm looking at Wednesday. Sorry now
Speaker 1: I'm six thirty Eastern time, three thirty Okay.
Speaker 3: So I don't. I'm sure there's some broadcast strategy behind it.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is at Bill says it's
Speaker 3: a game after a Nascart race.
Speaker 2: So well, maybe, hey, it'd be good, they'd be good.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. Maybe that's good.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate everyone. I check it out today, like
Speaker 1: I said, John, and I will figure out. I am
Speaker 1: flying Miami overnight tomorrow. Then I used to work, and
Speaker 1: then we're back here at Amazon. I think we'll be
Speaker 1: good next Monday. We'll figure out the time because then
Speaker 1: I go back to Orlando. So John, it's a very exciting,
Speaker 1: very good time. I wish I wish the Guardians were
Speaker 1: playing I could have I wish any of these sounds
Speaker 1: I was going with anywhere at the UFL game. I
Speaker 1: really would go check it out. John, Are you going
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