Speaker 1: And nine. Ignition six five four three two one zero
Speaker 1: All engine running.
Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means.
Speaker 3: It's time for Ignition with the ae W fat podcast
Speaker 3: team AW Dynamite This week Spring Breakthrough is the two
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ninth episode of AW Dynamite, which surpasses
Speaker 3: WCW Monday Nitro, which was on TNT as the longest
Speaker 3: running wrestling show prime time on the Turner Networks. Just
Speaker 3: to give you an idea of the accomplishment this is.
Speaker 3: This is really interesting to me. RAW has sixteen hundred
Speaker 3: and sixty three episodes. I thought that they would have more.
Speaker 3: W WCW Thunder had one hundred and fifty six episodes,
Speaker 3: and SmackDown hassand three hundred and thirty three one thousan
Speaker 3: three hundred and thirty seven episodes.
Speaker 2: Collision is in eighty nine. So Collision will hit one hundred.
Speaker 3: Episodes at on June twenty eighth, I think it is,
Speaker 3: And then Dynamite's gonna hit three hundred episodes less than
Speaker 3: a week later on July second, So AW is gonna
Speaker 3: be hitting some milestones right in consecutive order. But anyway,
Speaker 3: let's get on with the show. Because we've got a
Speaker 3: lot to talk about this is Kelson, and I wanted
Speaker 3: to thank Barry and Sutton and Nett for coming in
Speaker 3: and joining us tonight. I thought it would be interesting
Speaker 3: with the spring breakthrough episode. We've got quite a bit
Speaker 3: we talked about this last week, got quite a bit
Speaker 3: of wrestlers that have not wrestled in twenty twenty five
Speaker 3: yet or have been missing for most of the Jack Perry,
Speaker 3: Britt Baker, you know, Rijo to Karushida.
Speaker 2: A lot of them are on the women's side, like
Speaker 2: Anna Jay as well. They have not wrestled in aw
Speaker 2: match in twenty twenty five. So remember we've got the
Speaker 2: Hangman Adam Page against the Joker tomorrow night. Plus there's
Speaker 2: opportunities for I think there's gonna be opportunities for returns
Speaker 2: and guest appearances. What do you think? Can you let's
Speaker 2: talk about this.
Speaker 3: Who's gonna be Hagman Adam Page's opponent and who may
Speaker 3: just show up?
Speaker 4: Could be Jack Perry, could be There's a lot of people.
Speaker 2: It could be.
Speaker 5: I think it's Josh Alexander.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's gonna be Josh. Would it
Speaker 2: be cool if it was Lucasaurus or Keith Lee.
Speaker 3: Or somebody like that coming back. I mean, there's all
Speaker 3: kinds of things.
Speaker 2: What about like uh other not even not even in
Speaker 2: this Ohen Heart Joker scenario. But would it be cool
Speaker 2: if maybe Brian Danielson stuck his nose in at the
Speaker 2: Trios Championship TOMORROWY would just.
Speaker 5: Show him in the audience watching just in a seat,
Speaker 5: like not even a sweet just like hanging out drinking
Speaker 5: a coke or if people or on the.
Speaker 2: Back, maybe he gives a pep talk to the to
Speaker 2: the opps. I can't call him the ops. I like
Speaker 2: calling him the opps, uh, the opps because I'm nasty
Speaker 2: that way, and you know, and then just hanging out
Speaker 2: in the back watching it on a monitor, you know,
Speaker 2: with a plastic bag over his head. I don't know.
Speaker 6: That horrible eyepad that.
Speaker 4: Somebody else it could be it's free agent soon. Jeff Cobb.
Speaker 2: Uh, Jeff Cobb is already on the internal roster. I
Speaker 2: believe of w w E.
Speaker 3: It's pretty much a given that Jeff cobbs going to
Speaker 3: w W. I don't think there's a hope hope in
Speaker 3: hell that I mean, look at Jeff Cobb he's literally
Speaker 3: got that Samoan muscular build to him that WWE just loves.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a shoe fitted great with that.
Speaker 5: Would I would not be shocked to see him on
Speaker 5: Night two Media. So he's got his match Saturday at
Speaker 5: Kirrikan Hall, which is his last match for New Japan,
Speaker 5: So that would be early Saturday our time. He can
Speaker 5: hop on a plane and beat to Vegas.
Speaker 3: I really don't see the point in that though, because
Speaker 3: he's gonna be wrestling our equivalent of Saturday morning in
Speaker 3: the United States, and then he's gonna fly eighteen hours
Speaker 3: or however to how long it is. I think it's
Speaker 3: I think it's more because it's in Vegas.
Speaker 5: If their debut and you at WrestleMania, you absolutely make
Speaker 5: that trip.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what, though, I don't think Jeff COM's
Speaker 2: big enough to even care for they care about.
Speaker 5: Which night, which night is the Three Way with Rains
Speaker 5: and is that night one or night too?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, all right, I know we're off top.
Speaker 2: I just I would be like asking me about w
Speaker 2: w E is asking me about me like and asking
Speaker 2: me about I get it.
Speaker 5: I get it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean no disrespect. I just don't watch it.
Speaker 3: I don't have time. It's not that I hate it,
Speaker 3: I don't. I want to make that clear. I don't
Speaker 3: hate w w E. I just have so much to
Speaker 3: do with a with a w fan hub and all
Speaker 3: that that I just don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would have no no life at all.
Speaker 2: You know, I have?
Speaker 5: How much life did any of us have? This week?
Speaker 5: We've got wrestling seven days in a row, Raw, NXT,
Speaker 5: Dynamite Collisions, SmackDown, Mania one, Mania two Like, and not
Speaker 5: to mention all the indie shows this week. It is
Speaker 5: the spoil of the riches for its your wrestling.
Speaker 2: Fans would like t j p w's running shows. I'm
Speaker 2: stardom is I believe you know?
Speaker 5: So much? Stuff?
Speaker 2: Go ahead?
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Kells.
Speaker 2: You know here's another idea too.
Speaker 3: We talked about Josh Alexander, you know what about the
Speaker 3: women's match between Athena and Mercedes Monette. Keep in mind
Speaker 3: that Resurgence is coming up and that pay that event
Speaker 3: is uh at nj at JPW. Event is going to
Speaker 3: feature Mercedes Monette defending her New Japan Strong Women's Championship
Speaker 3: against Mina Shirakawa and Azumi, both of whom obviously Mina
Speaker 3: Shirakawa has appeared in the W so has A Zumi.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't put it over if they showed up, you know,
Speaker 3: I or one of them at least.
Speaker 2: I mean it's a possibility. There are so many people
Speaker 2: that could show up and make sense, Tomorrownay, are.
Speaker 5: We expecting clean finishes in the Mercedes Athena match coming
Speaker 5: off off your tip there. If they're going to show up,
Speaker 5: that's going to be the match they show up on.
Speaker 5: And so I could see shenanigans going down there.
Speaker 3: Well, don't forget if A Zoomi and Mina Shear Cow
Speaker 3: or even Billy Starks come out during the match, they
Speaker 3: get set to the back. The rules of the ow
Speaker 3: at Hart state that there's no has.
Speaker 5: No outside I thought that was.
Speaker 2: It's not no outside interference, it's nobody can be ringside.
Speaker 2: So something happened.
Speaker 3: They could take a like Mina Shear Colla and Zumi
Speaker 3: could theoretically kick Mercedes ass in the back before the match,
Speaker 3: but that wouldn't make much sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Julia Hart was at ringside for the.
Speaker 2: UH and yeah, his match.
Speaker 4: The rule is you're you can have people out there,
Speaker 4: but it's no outside interference.
Speaker 5: That's that's why I was used because I remember. I
Speaker 5: remember she had that really sharp black blouse and and
Speaker 5: and slacks, and she's she looks really sharp.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I mean, I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think you're gonna have it's gonna be a
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a slam dunk that you're gonna have. Uh,
Speaker 4: Monet is gonna win it. They're not gonna have her
Speaker 4: losing Boston, There's no way. So pretty much they're undefeated,
Speaker 4: sixty three winning streak for Uh, it's gonna come to
Speaker 4: an end.
Speaker 2: Bhu. I want to hear you say the name.
Speaker 4: I can't remember her name.
Speaker 2: It's right there in the picture the picture. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: brain dead today.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, now we haven't heard from you at all.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts? Who's the joker?
Speaker 2: Who you to return?
Speaker 6: I think that the joker might be Josh alex Xander,
Speaker 6: but I'm hopeful that it's Eddie Kingston holding out hope here,
Speaker 6: So I see, let's see what else. I think Mercedes
Speaker 6: Monnette will win. Yeah, I'm I'm just excited. In general,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of wrestling going on, so I'm kind
Speaker 6: of overloaded with wrestling. I can't get Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, well, thank you thanks for joining the podcast.
Speaker 4: Oh you're welcome, thank you all.
Speaker 2: He took up two minutes. I'm so proud, you know.
Speaker 5: So kelsel. If Eddie Kingston is the joker, how how
Speaker 5: loud will you pop tomorrow night? We'll be able to
Speaker 5: hear you all the way down here.
Speaker 2: There will definitely be a noise.
Speaker 6: I'll be able to hear you.
Speaker 1: Love Eddie.
Speaker 2: I love Eddie Kingston. I want to have Eddie Kingston's babies.
Speaker 6: Oh god, I wonder if he don't have different ring gear,
Speaker 6: if he's changed his ring gear into something else.
Speaker 3: Depends on how much weight he's gained. Although I've heard no. Seriously, though,
Speaker 3: I've heard that he's looking decent. I mean, he's looking good.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think I think it's bullshit. But
Speaker 3: I've heard that.
Speaker 6: He might he might look like a whole different person.
Speaker 3: He might he may come out in a Lucasaurus bask
Speaker 3: and we won't know the difference. He may he may
Speaker 3: have grown seven or eight inches.
Speaker 2: You never know.
Speaker 6: Maybe he's been gravity this whole time.
Speaker 5: It's interesting you mentioned that the weight loss. One thing
Speaker 5: I did notice for quite a few eight of your
Speaker 5: formers is they have they've leaned out. They haven't put
Speaker 5: on masks, but they've leaned out, and they look a
Speaker 5: little faster, and they just they just look better. I
Speaker 5: mean Adam Cole is a great example of that, him
Speaker 5: getting really really great shape. I think he's the best
Speaker 5: he's looking a long time. But quite a few folks
Speaker 5: have leaned out a decent amount. Yeah, it's because they've
Speaker 5: got some new trainers in a training table and dietitians,
Speaker 5: or they just got a whole bunch of people taking
Speaker 5: Quinn Butterol or whatever right now to help lean out.
Speaker 5: But they the rosters looked really good, really really good,
Speaker 5: especially people con doctromentry too. Go ahead, Kelsel.
Speaker 2: Totally scientific noticing this by the way, I don't want
Speaker 2: to be sound creepy, but Julia Hard is really thinned out.
Speaker 2: But she's but she's got muscular muscular Her arms are
Speaker 2: jacked or her stomach is jack but she's noticeably.
Speaker 5: Slimmer a cheerleader base from all that training, which is
Speaker 5: body weight and everything. You just build up such a
Speaker 5: good core muscle doing any any of that type of tumbling.
Speaker 5: It's got such a great base to work with regardless
Speaker 5: of what she wants to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you.
Speaker 4: Think, uh, do you think that Sting and or Flair
Speaker 4: will show up?
Speaker 2: Well, I highly doubt that Flair will show up.
Speaker 4: He's under contract, is under contract, he's under compact. Then
Speaker 4: he was a major, he was a major part of
Speaker 4: w CW with Stings, So I could see them both
Speaker 4: not necessarily coming out on stage, out out to the live,
Speaker 4: but be backstage for a segment. I mean, it is
Speaker 4: a big deal that they're passing w CW.
Speaker 5: That's a good point, Sutton. Until you mentioned that, I
Speaker 5: hadn't really connected the w CW connection and the nitrous stuff,
Speaker 5: even though Kelson kicked us off with that, I feel
Speaker 5: like an idiot. Now that's that's a really good point.
Speaker 5: I didn't even consider singing. I think that's a good point, Sutton.
Speaker 5: That'd be a good opportunity.
Speaker 2: To that would be cool to see.
Speaker 5: A celebration where celebrating this achievement.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw that stupid storyboard I
Speaker 3: put up for the opening of Dynamite tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: Did you see it? I posted it? It was it
Speaker 2: was basically for those who didn't see it, because it's
Speaker 2: on the aw fat Hub subreddit, It's on the Wrestling
Speaker 2: Hub discord server, and I'm also I think I posted
Speaker 2: it on Blue Sky as well. It's got some weird responses.
Speaker 3: Basically, the opening of Dynamite starts with Shane McMahon standing basically,
Speaker 3: I picture like standing outside of Tony Kahn's door, you know,
Speaker 3: the door with the little paper.
Speaker 2: Taped to it that says Tony Kahan.
Speaker 3: And he says, they said, hey, you know, I need
Speaker 3: to talk to Tony. I have business. You know, we
Speaker 3: have business to discuss, right, And the next thing you
Speaker 3: see is KaBlam your kapal or whatever. And then the
Speaker 3: next seed is Shane McMahon laying outside and basically the
Speaker 3: trash with Megan Bain standing over him saying, I'll.
Speaker 2: Be right there, Tony. I had to take the trash out.
Speaker 2: And that's how the stories, that's how the Dynamite starts
Speaker 2: to write.
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's just my stupid contribution. You know,
Speaker 3: one person that we haven't seen in a while that
Speaker 3: could make their return tomorrow night. It kind of makes
Speaker 3: sense to do it, is Mariah May. Look, there's been
Speaker 3: speculation that her contract is up, which if you remember,
Speaker 3: she started and I believe it was November of twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three, so she signed a two year contract. It's
Speaker 3: going to be up in November of this year, so
Speaker 3: she still got a few months to go seven months ago,
Speaker 3: I guess before her contract is up. But but you know, hey,
Speaker 3: this is a big show, and this has where you
Speaker 3: may want to bring somebody like Mariah May back.
Speaker 5: Sean Ross sat today said she was under contract as
Speaker 5: at least as early as August of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 5: so that's a few months less, but I think that's
Speaker 5: enough time to run a short term program with her,
Speaker 5: especially if they're bringing Mina And like, I don't like
Speaker 5: how Tony keeps people on the shelf when they're under
Speaker 5: contract or their contracts coming up. I think he really
Speaker 5: misses an opportunity to have them run a final program
Speaker 5: and put somebody over that's traditionally outside and pro wrestling,
Speaker 5: especially it's a bigger star. Mariah May is a former
Speaker 5: real champion, giving the rub to somebody I think would
Speaker 5: be great if you're bringing men to share Kalla in
Speaker 5: anytime soon, setting up something between the two of them
Speaker 5: that ends up in a career versus career match whenever
Speaker 5: it's appropriate. Obviously, Mariah does the job, puts over Mina.
Speaker 5: There's something you can do with her. You're paying her
Speaker 5: for it, so use her. You know she's leaving, she's leaving,
Speaker 5: big deal, but use her. It's not like she doesn't
Speaker 5: do work professionally or anybody doesn't like her. I'm sure
Speaker 5: she'll run the program, especially if she's putting over her
Speaker 5: friend Mina. Take advantage of it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I think they're the wrong idea.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think she's going anywhere. I think, like you said,
Speaker 4: all alone Kelson, the one woman that did more wrestling
Speaker 4: in the end of twenty twenty four and into twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five was her. She wrestled all the time, and
Speaker 4: I think she's just on a break. They finally gave her,
Speaker 4: got her a chance to get her an opportunity to
Speaker 4: have a little vacation, get out of the ring, get
Speaker 4: to recover a little bit. And I think she'll be
Speaker 4: back very soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she if I'm not mistaken. At least
Speaker 2: in the women's division.
Speaker 3: Maria May had by far the most matches in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four and Look.
Speaker 6: I hope she doesn't go anywhere and they're starting them
Speaker 6: in teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, look, you know, you got to give Maria a credit.
Speaker 3: She signed a two year contract, according to the reports,
Speaker 3: and she did a lot with that contract, arguably the
Speaker 3: most popular storyline in AW history with Tony Storm. She
Speaker 3: was the AW Women's World Champion for months in minis
Speaker 3: and months and months. She didn't slow down. She was
Speaker 3: out there performing, she was out there doing promos and whatnot. Look,
Speaker 3: you got to give her credit for signing a two
Speaker 3: year contract and having confidence in herself.
Speaker 2: And taking the risk if she wouldn't get injured.
Speaker 3: I mean, there was always the risk that she could
Speaker 3: get injured, and that would have put a you know,
Speaker 3: kebash on everything for her. But now she's got leverage,
Speaker 3: bargaining leverage.
Speaker 5: Ed.
Speaker 3: Look, AW is going to pay more than WWE. But
Speaker 3: it can be argued as well that WWE is the dream,
Speaker 3: you know, But I don't know, it's it's it's up
Speaker 3: to her and it's up to Tony Kahan. We could
Speaker 3: speculate all we want, but we're just talking out of
Speaker 3: her ass.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I was chatting with somebody earlier today too about the
Speaker 5: difference between the promotions and the goals of individuals. And
Speaker 5: as much as I would be bummed to see her
Speaker 5: move over to WWE, it's because of all the people
Speaker 5: if she didn't get a chance to work with an AAW.
Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of matches we never got
Speaker 5: to see. And that's the case of a lot of
Speaker 5: the talent that jumps. I wasn't a huge Cmpunk fan,
Speaker 5: but I appreciate him as a worker, and I never
Speaker 5: got to see the Cmpunk versus Kinny Omega match. You know,
Speaker 5: there's matches that we miss out on when talent moves.
Speaker 5: But I look at Mariah and for many people coming
Speaker 5: back to your point in the dream like, WWE's the
Speaker 5: hot promotion right now, and for many people they do.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know many people, but for performers,
Speaker 5: they may want a run where they're doing three years,
Speaker 5: where WWE runs everything top to bottom. They're doing all
Speaker 5: the promotion, they're operating under the TKO media umbrella that
Speaker 5: AW simply can't provide. They want to be in front
Speaker 5: of ten thousand fans twice a week as opposed to
Speaker 5: once a month at a pay per view or something.
Speaker 5: You know, there's differences. She won't be able to work
Speaker 5: anywhere else, which she didn't really do. It's not like
Speaker 5: we saw her go to stardom or take New Japan dates. See,
Speaker 5: he's going to be on the road more, which might
Speaker 5: be fine because perhaps that's what she wants to do
Speaker 5: because of the Median stuff. So it's just balancing the differences.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of performers that prefer AW because they
Speaker 5: like they enjoy working a couple of indies. They like
Speaker 5: going and doing rev Pro shows or doing DeFi shows
Speaker 5: or GCW or going to New Japan or or Triple A.
Speaker 5: And that's not something you get to do, at least
Speaker 5: until recently in WWE. So there's differences. It's really what
Speaker 5: the performer wants. And she was down here in Orlando
Speaker 5: and posts some pictures and if she chootued to go
Speaker 5: to WWE, so be it. But I really hope they
Speaker 5: don't waste a few months she's here. We get a
Speaker 5: fun little program and she puts somebody over on the
Speaker 5: way out with Mina and some other performers and give
Speaker 5: us a couple of those matches we didn't get to
Speaker 5: see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, here's the thing. With Mariah May and
Speaker 3: other performers. Aw's been around for five years, where pretty
Speaker 3: much anybody that's fifty or younger has basically grown up
Speaker 3: with WWE. So that is a disadvantage when you're growing up.
Speaker 3: You know, when I was growing up, I didn't fantasize
Speaker 3: about being an AW wrestler because AW didn't exist. You know,
Speaker 3: that's you know, that's that's just the truth. Now, fifteen
Speaker 3: twenty years from now, yeah, there will be kids that
Speaker 3: grow up it would be like fall that had fallen
Speaker 3: in love with ae W and they would want to
Speaker 3: be AW wrestlers.
Speaker 2: You know, you're gonna have that.
Speaker 3: AW is gonna have that going for them, but it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a while.
Speaker 2: There's still a very young company.
Speaker 5: Stephanieve Kerr is a great example of that. She had
Speaker 5: said her dream was always WWE, and when they offered,
Speaker 5: she wasn't even any consider AW because she grew up
Speaker 5: seeing WWE. And that's to your point. When you've been
Speaker 5: around decades, it's it's of course you're going to be
Speaker 5: the dream job or the job people grow because that's
Speaker 5: what was in town or that's what was in place
Speaker 5: when you were a kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, let's shift gears here because.
Speaker 3: Uh, somebody brought up a really good topic and I
Speaker 3: wanted to bring it up because there are a w
Speaker 3: wrestlers that maybe we weren't we didn't get or we
Speaker 3: just didn't like them when we first saw them, but
Speaker 3: then they grew on you, much like to me. You know,
Speaker 3: I will fully admit that I was not a big
Speaker 3: Eddie Kingston fan, and.
Speaker 2: Now I absolutely love what he's doing in the ring.
Speaker 2: So oh my god. What so anyway, anyway.
Speaker 6: I detect sarcasm, not for me.
Speaker 4: He's been doing such great work in the ring for
Speaker 4: the last what three years? Two years? Year and a
Speaker 4: half he's been gone. I mean, oh sorry three years.
Speaker 2: That boy, you have no concept of five.
Speaker 5: I just did.
Speaker 2: Not let me. Let's here's a I need do a
Speaker 2: public service announcement based on what Sutton just said. Kids,
Speaker 2: crack is whack? Three years? Holy cow? Anyway, So let's.
Speaker 3: I just want to ask the panel, what is what
Speaker 3: is if any an aw wrestler that not that you
Speaker 3: hated them, but you maybe you just didn't get them,
Speaker 3: or you were hoping for something more from them, and
Speaker 3: now they've come through.
Speaker 2: What wrestlers at AAW have grown on you the most.
Speaker 5: You go first, nut.
Speaker 6: Someone who has grown on me as MJS. I hated
Speaker 6: them at first and just thought he was a tool.
Speaker 6: But he's pretty entertaining. Well, so he did the hurt
Speaker 6: syndicate really got me.
Speaker 3: No, let me ask you this, No, let me ask
Speaker 3: you this? Was this what you say you thought he
Speaker 3: was a tool? Do you mean that you thought he
Speaker 3: was a tool.
Speaker 2: In real life or did you think that his character
Speaker 2: just not was your was your dislike for a W
Speaker 2: R for MJF dot a w MJF I just pulled
Speaker 2: a suttongf genuine or based on his character.
Speaker 6: Genuine. I thought I could see him being his a
Speaker 6: W character in real life, and he.
Speaker 5: Just aggravated me.
Speaker 6: So he's if he is playing a character, he's very
Speaker 6: very good at it. I can see him behaving that
Speaker 6: way all the time everywhere he goes. But I've started
Speaker 6: to find him entertaining, so that that'd be somebody who
Speaker 6: won me over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well what about let's go to Sutton. Let's
Speaker 3: let's let's hear from Sutton.
Speaker 4: And I don't really have anybody that has grown on
Speaker 4: me or who has I mean, I don't. I don't
Speaker 4: look at wrestling the way most people do. I like
Speaker 4: everything they do, and if it doesn't agree with what
Speaker 4: I if I got a problem with it, I just
Speaker 4: roll with it to see what happens in it. It's
Speaker 4: one of those things where I don't necessarily hate anybody.
Speaker 4: I mean, I have a despise I kind of despise
Speaker 4: DMD because she's terrible, But other than that, I just
Speaker 4: if they use her, they use her. She does what
Speaker 4: she does whatever. I'm not a big fan of mo
Speaker 4: A because I don't I think, don't think she's gotten
Speaker 4: any better than she was when she was in WWE.
Speaker 4: But she's wrestling, and when she wrestles, she wrestles. I
Speaker 4: can sit there and watch the match and go, yep,
Speaker 4: exactly what I thought. So I don't really have anybody
Speaker 4: that I has grown on me or who has gotten
Speaker 4: worse on me. I just watch it to enjoy what
Speaker 4: they do.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, What about you, Barry.
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 5: I want to go back to nets for a second
Speaker 5: with m JF like he lives his game McNett so
Speaker 5: like if people encounter him not in public, he's his gimmick.
Speaker 5: I don't know if people actually know what he's like
Speaker 5: in real life, for very few people do because he
Speaker 5: one lives his gimmick and it's hilarious. So I thought
Speaker 5: that was really fascinating you picked that because yeah, that's
Speaker 5: out in public autograph like he lives his gimmick.
Speaker 2: It's undertaker.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, Barry.
Speaker 2: I'm Barry Barry.
Speaker 3: Let me interrupt you because I saw an interview with
Speaker 3: a celebrity and I can't remember who it was, but
Speaker 3: it was like a couple of years ago, and they
Speaker 3: were asked about MJF because he said that he or
Speaker 3: she said that they met MJF.
Speaker 2: And this person said, I don't know if I about that.
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to say this, but MGF is just a sweetheart.
Speaker 5: The real person right now, the real person is a sweetheart. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he's really good on eye handles things out in public.
Speaker 5: I've always been impressed with that. As far as who
Speaker 5: hasn't improved or impressed me the most, I'm going to
Speaker 5: go back to Wheeler Yuda. I have a a kind
Speaker 5: of a shtick I say with friends of mine when
Speaker 5: we're seeing certain guys on TV that might be news
Speaker 5: is unlike they just look like an indie wrestler, like
Speaker 5: they scream indie wrestler. They don't belong on TV. They
Speaker 5: look like an indie guy. And I don't mean like
Speaker 5: an indie guy who's out there grinding and was a
Speaker 5: former champ and earned it. I mean, like, you know,
Speaker 5: somebody was fresh out of the wrestling camp, right, And
Speaker 5: that's that's kind of how I saw Wheeler Utah. At first,
Speaker 5: he had the cheesy music. I didn't really see anything
Speaker 5: unique in him. They threw him with Orange Cassie and
Speaker 5: the best friends in all of them, and even when
Speaker 5: he first joined the Blackpool Combat Club, I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 5: I get it. But for whatever reason, to me, the
Speaker 5: best thing to come out of the Death Writers is
Speaker 5: grease Boy, because like he is just settled into this
Speaker 5: sniveling little heel routine, and Wheeler grooseboy Youda is grease boy.
Speaker 5: DA is just I just love everything he's doing now.
Speaker 5: I think he's really starting to figure it out from
Speaker 5: a heal perspective, from a form perspective, how to get
Speaker 5: the crowd to just hate it, the heat he can
Speaker 5: generate doing really stupid things, just real simple stuff. I
Speaker 5: just really enjoyed watching it come together for him, and
Speaker 5: he's somebody who's who's won me over who I just
Speaker 5: I thought he was just another mid card guy forever,
Speaker 5: and I've really enjoyed what he said in the last
Speaker 5: eighteen months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that well for me.
Speaker 3: And I want to preface this by saying that I
Speaker 3: did not dislike these two wrestlers that I'm going to
Speaker 3: bring up.
Speaker 2: It's that they've grown on me. Okay.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure that I make that clear
Speaker 3: that I never disliked them. It's just that they what
Speaker 3: I've what they've done in the last couple of years
Speaker 3: has made me appreciate them more and they've made them
Speaker 3: grow on me, the first one being Hangman and and Paige. Again,
Speaker 3: I didn't dislike Hangman in page. I just didn't get him.
Speaker 3: He just seemed like, I don't know, I just couldn't
Speaker 3: grasp what he was trying to do.
Speaker 2: Once I figured it out that he's trying to do absolutely.
Speaker 3: Nothing but be a painted everybody's ass, then I got
Speaker 3: to enjoy him. So my male wrestler is going to
Speaker 3: be hanging Man at him page. Again, I didn't dislike him,
Speaker 3: but I've grown to really like him and look forward
Speaker 3: to him. Okay, on the female side, And this may
Speaker 3: come as a shock to you, but I'm going with
Speaker 3: Tony Storm again. I didn't dislike her when she came
Speaker 3: into AW. I thought she was fine. The outcast thing
Speaker 3: that she did kind of annoyed me because it was
Speaker 3: very death writer ish where they did the same thing
Speaker 3: every single week and everybody they everybody that any of
Speaker 3: the outcast wrestles looked like a complete moron, and it
Speaker 3: just got annoying. But then timeless Tony Storm happened and
Speaker 3: she really grew on me. She was fine before Tony Storm,
Speaker 3: but she wasn't special. Now she's grown on me and
Speaker 3: become special. So I'm going with Timeless Tony Storm as
Speaker 3: my pick on the women's side. Now I'm gonna throw something.
Speaker 3: Put everybody on the spot. What's a wrestler. Who's a wrestler?
Speaker 3: You know, pick a male and a female if you
Speaker 3: wouldn't mind, Uh, what's a wrestler that you've liked from
Speaker 3: the get go and just saw, even if they weren't
Speaker 3: the greatest, you saw the potential in them. And now
Speaker 3: they've either lived up to the potential or even if
Speaker 3: they haven't lived up to the potential, you're still hopeful
Speaker 3: that they will.
Speaker 2: Net let's go to you. Oh geez.
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're gonna say Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 6: Well, no, because he's already great.
Speaker 2: He's at the top of the game obviously.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, if you don't have anybody who we can go
Speaker 2: to Sutton.
Speaker 5: Yeah, go to Sutton.
Speaker 6: I have to think about it a bit.
Speaker 2: On the female side, figures himself on the.
Speaker 4: Women's side of christ Atlander. I've liked her from the beginning.
Speaker 4: I think she's got a lot of potential still that
Speaker 4: they have not even come close to tapping. On the
Speaker 4: men's side, Uh, Darby. I just thought Darby was gonna
Speaker 4: turn out to be some crazy skateboarder dude that was
Speaker 4: just gonna hang around the lower levels and not become anything.
Speaker 4: But I really think he is missed right now, and
Speaker 4: when he comes back, if he's used right, he could
Speaker 4: be the superstar to carry them for a while.
Speaker 2: A fair enough? What about you Berry?
Speaker 5: Still I want to go on the women's side. Queen
Speaker 5: Almanada and it was kind of I don't I didn't
Speaker 5: know anything about her. She showed up on TV and
Speaker 5: just watching and looking at her. I'm like, I bet
Speaker 5: she's going to be pretty good. She has visually everything
Speaker 5: it takes to be pretty good. And I don't remember
Speaker 5: who she wrestled, but at the end of the match,
Speaker 5: I was like, Yeah, she's going to be pretty good.
Speaker 5: I can tell. And she's just continued to every time
Speaker 5: she come out, other than a couple of matches where
Speaker 5: their timing was off, that it's going to happen with
Speaker 5: any performer. She's maintained that, and it's been It's been
Speaker 5: a blast to watch somebody just completely foreign to me
Speaker 5: in more ways than one and just complete a complete
Speaker 5: blank check and just being able to enjoy just taking
Speaker 5: a performer completely on its own for the first time
Speaker 5: probably since I've been watching pro wrestling, because usually everybody
Speaker 5: I see I've heard or wright about before. On the
Speaker 5: men's side, I'm going to say Orange Cassidy. I knew
Speaker 5: a little bit about him from the indies. I'd seen
Speaker 5: a couple of comedy spots. I just assumed he was
Speaker 5: a he was a comedy wrestler, and that can work
Speaker 5: on the indies, But I think I've read other folks
Speaker 5: for like, there's no way his shick is going to
Speaker 5: work on regular TV with a major promotion, and one
Speaker 5: way or another he made it work. And I remember
Speaker 5: the first match that I watched him in AW, I'm like,
Speaker 5: this is, this is not going to get over. This
Speaker 5: is I feel bad for this guy. And you know
Speaker 5: this was back during peak hot AW crowd, so they
Speaker 5: just exploded for anything, and the way I saw the crowd,
Speaker 5: I'll react to his comedy spots. But more importantly, I
Speaker 5: realized very quickly, this kid can go. And I say kid,
Speaker 5: he's in mid to late thirties, he can go in
Speaker 5: the ring, Like totally blew me away that this is
Speaker 5: this guy could wrestle.
Speaker 2: He's not very he's very athletic. He's very really athletic, very.
Speaker 5: Good and very underrated as a perform that works clean,
Speaker 5: just really really really good. And I think he's performed
Speaker 5: with enough people that they realize he's more than a
Speaker 5: comedy guy. But that's my pick for the men's side.
Speaker 5: Really just impressed with him for different ways. In the
Speaker 5: kleen Amanada, I expected something completely different from day one
Speaker 5: and was immediately shocked and have been on the badwagon
Speaker 5: ever since.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, on the women's side, it should come
Speaker 3: as no surprise from anybody that listens to me, it's
Speaker 3: going to be Julia Hart. I just think Julia Hart
Speaker 3: has lived up to her potential. Remember she's only what
Speaker 3: she just turned twenty three years old a few months ago.
Speaker 3: She's still like the youngest women's wrestler on the roster,
Speaker 3: and she just continues to improve. The thing that really
Speaker 3: impresses me about Julia Hart, and if you really look
Speaker 3: at it, nobody takes risk and bumps on the women's
Speaker 3: division as much as Julia Hart has. She's fallen off ladders,
Speaker 3: she's we're talking on a consistent basis, she's gone, you know,
Speaker 3: she just takes incredible bumps. Unfortunately, she did get injured
Speaker 3: a couple of times because you know what concussions and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So that's my pick for the women's division.
Speaker 3: Julia Hart.
Speaker 2: On the men's side, even though he really hasn't.
Speaker 3: Been with AW that long. From the moment he stepped
Speaker 3: in the ring, I was entertained by him and I
Speaker 3: have not been disappointed in a single match that he
Speaker 3: has participated in to this day. And honestly, if I
Speaker 3: see him on the card, I look forward to it.
Speaker 3: And that is Commander. I absolutely adore Commander. He is
Speaker 3: just so athletic, so entertaining, and just so even. It's
Speaker 3: weird because he wears a mask, but yet he exudes
Speaker 3: camaraderie with the fans. I don't know how he does
Speaker 3: it because he can't they can't see a space, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's it's very strange, But I
Speaker 3: just like everything about Commander.
Speaker 2: Matt. I want to go back to you. Have you
Speaker 2: thought of anybody that you like?
Speaker 5: Well, I like everyone, but a cop out.
Speaker 6: Now, come on, I have to be diplomatic. Somebody that
Speaker 6: I'm surprised that I like as much as I do
Speaker 6: is Kyle Fletcher.
Speaker 2: At first a good point one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah I didn't. I didn't like him. I really didn't.
Speaker 6: He has there's things about him that just kind of
Speaker 6: have aggravated me. But I've slowly but surely come around
Speaker 6: and and enjoy his performances, especially his new one with
Speaker 6: these snap on pants. That's that's pretty cool. And somebody
Speaker 6: I'm trying to think on the women inside. I do
Speaker 6: like Queen Almanada a lot. I'm I'm a huge Billy
Speaker 6: Starks fan, so yeah, she's somebody that then I'm interested
Speaker 6: in and unlike you, Kelson, I do not like Julia.
Speaker 6: I'm she's not for me.
Speaker 2: So well, Bill.
Speaker 6: Ter, Yeah, she's.
Speaker 2: Practically she's on the r O A roster. True, so
Speaker 2: she's not listed on the a W roster. How do
Speaker 2: you think of I'm surprised especially at NATT for not
Speaker 2: mentioning Kenosk Takesta.
Speaker 6: Oh well, yes, the great love of of Tequesta. But
Speaker 6: he's been around a bit. We got to see him
Speaker 6: debut in AW but him roster. He's a good guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh he's gorgeous too. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, I know I'm not blind, but you know, you're
Speaker 6: supposed to be talking about wrestling ability.
Speaker 5: Is quite popular in the back with the ladies.
Speaker 2: That is true.
Speaker 6: That, yeah, But there's there's rumors that he's actually married
Speaker 6: to that one wrestling lady. I don't know her name. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that lady trains with him. I really don't know her name.
Speaker 6: I've seen pictures of them together in the ring, and
Speaker 6: there's rumors that they are actually married.
Speaker 2: Instead of calling her that lady, I'll just tell let
Speaker 2: me just say the name that it is.
Speaker 3: It is suspected by many people that it was actually
Speaker 3: recently reported by man Is by someone too that Kate
Speaker 3: Takeshta is married to Yukaza Kazaki.
Speaker 6: Okay, well either way, that's like but that's that's like
Speaker 6: saying Kenny and and Rio are together.
Speaker 3: I mean you you don't know, there's not like saying
Speaker 3: if they're married. It's not that's different. But there are
Speaker 3: a lot of many reports say that and Sakazaki are married.
Speaker 5: Little or not.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that.
Speaker 5: The little Yuka what little Kazaki?
Speaker 2: That's who is that?
Speaker 3: Who is allegedly reportedly who Kenoskate Takeshta is married to?
Speaker 3: And yes, they have different what's.
Speaker 5: That I said? She's teeny It's just funny. It's just
Speaker 5: such a size difference between the two of them.
Speaker 2: Well when you look at well, look, Sakazaki is not
Speaker 2: you know, she is tiny, but.
Speaker 3: Without being I don't want to come off as racist,
Speaker 3: but you know, or anything like that or demeaning, but
Speaker 3: Japanese women are generally more petite, you know, they they
Speaker 3: are smaller, and the cash is kind of a freak,
Speaker 3: you know, and how big he is, you know, he
Speaker 3: is not your typical Japanese man.
Speaker 2: He is a genetic unit, you know. So you know,
Speaker 2: it's just what it is.
Speaker 4: You know, so.
Speaker 2: I was hoping.
Speaker 5: I was like some former olympian and him and his
Speaker 5: wife are going to have these like Olympian children that
Speaker 5: are gonna because he wasn't he a decathlete or training
Speaker 5: to be the into Catholic or something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have no idea, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, but that's that is the some
Speaker 2: lady is yu Kazakazaki.
Speaker 6: That's I just couldn't think of her name. I've seen
Speaker 6: her places, seen her before. I just am not very
Speaker 6: very good with names. So I know her by face only.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 5: That's all I know her.
Speaker 3: But I know her more by her nails down the
Speaker 3: chalkboard speaking voice.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, whenever she starts screeching. Who you know,
Speaker 2: She's cute as a button, but holy.
Speaker 5: Cow, that's her gimmick voice though, right, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think that's not her real voice. But what her
Speaker 2: gimmick voice is. My god, make the hair stand up
Speaker 2: on the back of your head, which is quite quite
Speaker 2: the uh, quite the accomplishment because I've been shaving my
Speaker 2: head for twenty years now, so more than that. So yeah,
Speaker 2: So anyway, moving on, this is an interesting topic and
Speaker 2: I'd like to hear what your opinions on this is
Speaker 2: because I've seen it posted on the discord, I've seen
Speaker 2: it posted on the aw fanum subreddit. A lot of
Speaker 2: people are have been saying over the.
Speaker 3: Last I would say at least three months, since around
Speaker 3: the beginning of February, that Collision is better than AW
Speaker 3: Dynamite on a lot of weeks. I personally feel that
Speaker 3: that's true. I do enjoy Collision a little bit more
Speaker 3: than AW Dynamite. I found myself, you know, looking forward
Speaker 3: to it more. A lot of that has to do
Speaker 3: with the women being heavily featured on Collision. We had
Speaker 3: five we had three women's matches and two promoted women's
Speaker 3: segments on Collision this last week. That's a lot, you know.
Speaker 3: So I wanted to hear your thoughts. I mean, not again,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that Dynamite sucks or anything like that.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that there are people out there that
Speaker 3: where last year they were calling Collision the C show,
Speaker 3: and I was one of them. I thought Rampage at
Speaker 3: times was a lot better than Collision last year. Now
Speaker 3: they're calling Collision A two instead of not even a
Speaker 3: B show. It's an equal to Dynamite. Do you guys
Speaker 3: feel that way?
Speaker 5: I thought, first, I don't have it.
Speaker 4: I don't have a preference to either show. I don't
Speaker 4: agree that the women show this especially this weekend. There
Speaker 4: were three matches and only one of them was actually
Speaker 4: really good. Uh, Billy starts for some reason, seemed like
Speaker 4: she's working in concrete. Her match just she just looked
Speaker 4: like she was moving so slowly. And I've not seen
Speaker 4: her work in ROH, so I don't know the difference.
Speaker 4: But to me, it just seemed like that match was
Speaker 4: in slow motion the whole time. And I don't know,
Speaker 4: I really hard. Match was okay for me, but I
Speaker 4: just I don't know. I don't have a preference to
Speaker 4: which one I watch. I think they're both equal.
Speaker 6: I like them both. I would agree Collision has gotten
Speaker 6: a lot better, but I like them both. They're equally good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, she works, Billy works a little slower style.
Speaker 5: There was definitely some timing issues in that match. It
Speaker 5: took him a little while to kind of get on
Speaker 5: the same pagement pacing perspective. Towards the end they did
Speaker 5: and came together. But you're absolutely right, she works slower
Speaker 5: style on the speed was just off. I don't know
Speaker 5: who where the communication was between the two of them,
Speaker 5: but yeah, I noticed that too, which was pretty weird.
Speaker 5: Most of our matches they look a lot cleaner than that.
Speaker 5: But no, I agree. There's been a lot of parody
Speaker 5: really since the start of the year, specifically this run
Speaker 5: for AW since January, and I think you can even
Speaker 5: go back to starting with the Hammerstein shows to wrap
Speaker 5: up the year in December have been excellent. And the
Speaker 5: reason why Collision feels like it's important is because AW
Speaker 5: has made it important. It hasn't been every other week
Speaker 5: or every three weeks there's a good show and there's
Speaker 5: two blowoff shows. They've made it a point to make
Speaker 5: it important. Having one less hour of TV with Rampage gone,
Speaker 5: I think has helped strengthen Collision because you have to
Speaker 5: make stuff interesting, you have to put stuff that would
Speaker 5: be on Rampage on there. And then in addition to that,
Speaker 5: I think they finally realized they had to pull some
Speaker 5: stuff together creatively and do a better job. They had
Speaker 5: fallen significantly. Attendance still down, ratings are showing some promise,
Speaker 5: they're getting better in some places, but I think really
Speaker 5: they finally put the effort into making it a good
Speaker 5: show because they had to. You can't run two locations
Speaker 5: for one nobody wants to go to. You're just going
Speaker 5: to lose money every week on that performers do want
Speaker 5: to work in front of fifteen hundred people, and so
Speaker 5: they put the good effort into it, and it has
Speaker 5: felt like a one B show. Not every week is
Speaker 5: as good as Dynamite, but I think more weeks than
Speaker 5: not it's on par and sometimes even a little better
Speaker 5: on occasion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I fully admit that I liked this
Speaker 3: week's Collision more than this week's last week's Dynamite, and
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it some having that continue, because look,
Speaker 3: I just want to see good wrestling shows.
Speaker 5: And last week's time I was weird. Yeah, we show.
Speaker 5: You could tell they were trying some new things, and
Speaker 5: I liked that they tried them, but they didn't quite
Speaker 5: get it right, and so just there were segments that
Speaker 5: felt weird. I liked how they weave the whole opening together.
Speaker 5: I mean that was twenty four minutes commercial free. They
Speaker 5: did a lot of really cool stuff, or they tried
Speaker 5: a lot of really cool stuff, but it did quite
Speaker 5: work right. My biggest it was a weird show.
Speaker 4: My biggest problem is ben they have gotten into the
Speaker 4: habit again of not announcing things for shows. I mean,
Speaker 4: we have the what four matches tomorrow? Three matches, one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 4: five matches, and you don't have a lot else. You
Speaker 4: don't have anything about who might be there or anything
Speaker 4: like that. Is there any matches been announced for Collision
Speaker 4: which is the next day. I mean for me, when
Speaker 4: they when they get the announcements made and they know,
Speaker 4: you know what's coming up on the shows, those shows
Speaker 4: are just better. And I think since the it wasn't Dynasty,
Speaker 4: it was the Paper before that, they started going back
Speaker 4: into that bad habit of putting shows together at last
Speaker 4: minute and not giving folks a chance to say, oh,
Speaker 4: this is going to be very interesting. That's just it
Speaker 4: just feels that way to me.
Speaker 5: You're not wrong. That was one of the things that
Speaker 5: got them into the problems they did, when Attendant started
Speaker 5: to drop off because people didn't know who was on
Speaker 5: the shows. I remember back during the COVID era when
Speaker 5: WWE was still bad, joking with when Vince was still
Speaker 5: just destroying that product, joking with a buddy of mine
Speaker 5: because IX Caliber at the end of the show. For
Speaker 5: AW would run down two weeks worth of cards and
Speaker 5: I would just joke, I'm like, you don't even know
Speaker 5: what's on Raw the day of Raw, And I was
Speaker 5: joking with my friend. And now it's kind of the opposite,
Speaker 5: or let me rephrase that it used to be. They've
Speaker 5: gotten a lot better, especially on this run this year.
Speaker 5: They've seemed to really want to focus on announcing at
Speaker 5: least two segments for the next show. Some cards are
Speaker 5: fleshed out a little further, especially if they're a big
Speaker 5: focal point they'd be building for a few weeks. But
Speaker 5: there's going to be weeks when they don't. And that's
Speaker 5: one still. One knock on Collision still is they don't.
Speaker 5: They don't announce enough of the Collision cards going into
Speaker 5: Saturdays more times than not, I still only know one
Speaker 5: or two things on the Saturday show. Usually going into Dynamite,
Speaker 5: I know at least half of what's going to be on.
Speaker 5: But Collision they still, they still when they fall off
Speaker 5: sudden to your point, it's typically I see it on
Speaker 5: Collision still, and that's kind of one of the remaining
Speaker 5: pieces I got to get sorted out.
Speaker 2: You know what, though, Barry. I think it was you
Speaker 2: that mentioned the the opening to Dynamite last week and
Speaker 2: how much you appreciated it. Was it it you that
Speaker 2: said that, You know that it went twenty four minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Dynamite last week started with the John Moxley recorded statement.
Speaker 3: Then we went right into the Moxley and Shabbata match,
Speaker 3: and of course he had the bucks in Omega and
Speaker 3: o'cada swerve in the ring or coming out to the ring,
Speaker 3: which led right into the Swerve versus Pac match. And
Speaker 3: then you had the eight man tag team vignette that
Speaker 3: they did. That was all in the first half hour
Speaker 3: of the show, and.
Speaker 2: It lost me. It completely lost me. I thought that
Speaker 2: was the worst way to start the Dynamite last week,
Speaker 2: you know, because.
Speaker 5: Part of that is you're just disdained for the death
Speaker 5: writers too. But it was different, and I can totally
Speaker 5: get how that pacing and the way they structure that
Speaker 5: would turn some people off. Like I said, I I
Speaker 5: don't really think they figured it out yet. Well, let
Speaker 5: me sure you're not alone in that either. Well, let
Speaker 5: me put it this way.
Speaker 2: I watched the Boxley recorded statement, the Moxley Chabata match,
Speaker 2: the Bucks and Kenny Omega and all that stuff that happened.
Speaker 2: The pack and Swerve match. I didn't watch any of it.
Speaker 2: I didn't watch any of it. I don't want to
Speaker 2: see the death Writers on my TV. And I and
Speaker 2: I've said it many times before, I am not a
Speaker 2: fan of eight multi man or multi woman matches. So
Speaker 2: that eight man tag team did nothing.
Speaker 5: That just tuned out to the whole.
Speaker 2: I can't understand what you're saying that.
Speaker 6: Mmm, okay, you tuned out to that whole segment. It
Speaker 6: just did nothing for you.
Speaker 3: I turned off the Moxley Shabbata match. I turned it
Speaker 3: back on when the Bucks, at Omega and Ocada were there,
Speaker 3: but it was really just I thought it was horrible.
Speaker 2: I thought it was bad.
Speaker 3: And then the Packet Swerve match. I had it on,
Speaker 3: but I was doing something. I can't remember what I
Speaker 3: was doing. I was probably looking at the subreddits or something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: during the match, there was nothing in that first half
Speaker 3: hour of aw Dynamite that kept my interest. And I
Speaker 3: say that, Barry, you hit the nail on the head
Speaker 3: is because of my disdain for the death Writers. But
Speaker 3: guess what, I am certainly not the only one that
Speaker 3: has disdain for the deaths.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think you do. I think you're kind
Speaker 5: of an extreme case of someone who would just change
Speaker 5: the channel and turn it off when they're on. But
Speaker 5: the issue, the issue that I had with the opening,
Speaker 5: let me pause for a second. What I really enjoyed
Speaker 5: about what they tried to do was weave segments together organically.
Speaker 5: And they've done this in a couple other shows in
Speaker 5: the past. For one thing, they follow somebody into the
Speaker 5: back and they come across somebody else and we hear
Speaker 5: their story segment. This is the first time in a
Speaker 5: while I can remember them trying to weave I think
Speaker 5: three or three and a half segments together without a
Speaker 5: cut or a break I guess would be a better
Speaker 5: term in there. And I think that's really really interesting.
Speaker 5: WWE's done that a few times. I especially like when
Speaker 5: they do their long entrances where they follow people back
Speaker 5: and then through that. I really enjoy when AW does
Speaker 5: long camera shots out of the back and stuff. So
Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of trying to do new ways
Speaker 5: to weave your narrative together. And that's why I was saying,
Speaker 5: is like I liked that they try write something different.
Speaker 5: I don't think particularly what they did it with this week,
Speaker 5: the Death Writers Kenny's promo was kind of a little
Speaker 5: weird the way we've done a couple of things. I
Speaker 5: don't think they had the right players to do that.
Speaker 5: But I hope they try something like that again, because
Speaker 5: it's different. It feels different, It feels a little special,
Speaker 5: a little more dynamic, a little more energy to it.
Speaker 5: Felt almost like a television show, the old Aaron Sorkin
Speaker 5: shows where you're just walking and talking everywhere. It was
Speaker 5: very active, and I appreciate AW trying something.
Speaker 4: New like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I get it. I mean I too.
Speaker 3: I mean I've noticed that they've kind of seamlessly went
Speaker 3: from segment to segment, like in particular Dynamite, where where
Speaker 3: Swerve came out with the bucks at Omega and Okada,
Speaker 3: Swerve did come out, and then we were right into
Speaker 3: the Pack and Swerve match, which I thought was really well.
Speaker 2: Done because it made sense, it didn't seem random.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it has to do a lot with
Speaker 4: their wanting to portray ae w more of a sport
Speaker 4: than a human soap opera, because they've come across as
Speaker 4: that Tony should be really good at that, because he's
Speaker 4: got a soccer team in England, he's got the football
Speaker 4: team in Jacksonville, so he should be really good at that.
Speaker 4: And I think it's starting to show that they actually
Speaker 4: are getting that to where they can start weaving things
Speaker 4: together like that. Whether it works for you or it doesn't,
Speaker 4: it works for the show.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you a little
Speaker 3: bit there because I don't think what you can call
Speaker 3: what's going on in Jacksonville as a football team.
Speaker 2: It's more like they pay their dues.
Speaker 4: They pay their dues and they have people that they
Speaker 4: pay to play. So they are a professional football team.
Speaker 4: Not very good, but they're professional football team.
Speaker 2: They're not the Stealer, you know. God, the Steelers aren't
Speaker 2: even the Steelers.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw something at you here, you know, to
Speaker 3: wrap up the show, But I want to ask you,
Speaker 3: looking at the card for Tomorrow night, how would you open.
Speaker 2: Up the show tomorrow night?
Speaker 3: Kind of an interesting question because you've got Mercedes, Monet
Speaker 3: and Athena, You've got hak Man Anti Page against the Joker,
Speaker 3: got Takesha and Osprey, and Osprey has opened many shows
Speaker 3: it's kind of becoming.
Speaker 2: The UH, the UH.
Speaker 3: Orange Cassidy of twenty twenty five. You have, of course,
Speaker 3: you have John Moxley and the Death Writers against the opps.
Speaker 2: You know, so because the Boxley has opened many shows
Speaker 2: as well, you know, and the Death Writers have too.
Speaker 2: So what do you think? What if you were given
Speaker 2: the reins to run the show? How would you open
Speaker 2: the show to grab people and get them to stay.
Speaker 4: I'd go, I'd go if it was me, I'd do
Speaker 4: it bottom bottom left, across the.
Speaker 2: Hold hold on, hold on. When you say bottom left,
Speaker 2: people are not able to see the bottom left.
Speaker 4: Do the videos match the tag match? Then I'd do
Speaker 4: Athena and Mercedes. Then I'd do the UH. I'd finish
Speaker 4: with Tequshta and Osprey as the main event, and I'd
Speaker 4: have the Adam Page and the Yoker in between. Okay,
Speaker 4: get you get the matches if everybody since everybody kind
Speaker 4: of hates on the Death Rider, you get the worst
Speaker 4: match of the night out of the way, you have
Speaker 4: one of the I think, what's.
Speaker 2: Gonna your death doesn't make sense? You get the worst matches.
Speaker 2: I said, how would you get people to stay? You know,
Speaker 2: to grab people, get them the state to watch. You're
Speaker 2: gonna put the worst match of the.
Speaker 5: Night, Sarah Death Writerkelson got to change the channel right
Speaker 5: off the bat exactly.
Speaker 4: I don't hate on the Death Riders. I don't think
Speaker 4: it's going to be that bad match, especially since it's
Speaker 4: the Trios match. I think everybody enjoys the Ops. I
Speaker 4: think that they're gonna be a very entertaining match. Of
Speaker 4: the five matches, it's the weakest of the five. I
Speaker 4: start my show out with the weakest to get it
Speaker 4: out of the way and build the show up to
Speaker 4: end with the best match, and that's gonna be us
Speaker 4: Braying Tuskesta.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put something out there to everybody right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, Pack is injured and so he's not able to
Speaker 3: be part of the Treos Championship Championship team. In the past,
Speaker 3: when that's happened, they've had to vacate the championship. In
Speaker 3: this case, they let John Moxley step in.
Speaker 2: I truly and honestly believe, and I don't know how
Speaker 2: you feel about this, but I truly and honestly believe
Speaker 2: that the Ops are going to be the new Trios
Speaker 2: Tag Team Championships to champions tomorrow night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's I think I think he's
Speaker 4: bullshit because it's you're showing favoritism to I mean, I
Speaker 4: get it, he's the heavyweight champion, and I guess you
Speaker 4: could give him a little bit of anyway. But if
Speaker 4: you're gonna do that to other teams if they have
Speaker 4: an injury in their team, you keep it uniform, you don't.
Speaker 2: Well, look the way I'm saying, the way I see
Speaker 2: it is this Sutton, is that it was booked whether
Speaker 2: if Pack had not gotten injured, the Ops were still
Speaker 2: gonna win that match, so they so they just wanted
Speaker 2: to keep the match and do it.
Speaker 3: And it's actually more of a big win if the
Speaker 3: Ops win or the Opps. I'm sorry I mispronounced that
Speaker 3: the Opps win this match with Moxley at it, that
Speaker 3: it would be with Pack, and it taking nothing away
Speaker 3: from Pack because I love Pack.
Speaker 2: I like Pack more than Moxley for sure.
Speaker 4: I think it would have better matter match with Pack,
Speaker 4: to be honest, But I.
Speaker 2: Mean it would have been a better match with Pack.
Speaker 3: But but because Moxley is like the central figure, I
Speaker 3: guess of aw right now, for better or for worse,
Speaker 3: it's a bigger win for the opps if they beat
Speaker 3: the Death Riders with Moxley in the ring, it'd be
Speaker 3: a bigger one if Moxley is the one that gets pinned,
Speaker 3: jokes him out or whatever.
Speaker 5: I was just if you want to juice that team
Speaker 5: right out of the gate, you go. I mean, Joe's
Speaker 5: the only one they could do as a formal world
Speaker 5: champ to get that on mox. If they want to
Speaker 5: juice that, they got to make Joe look as strong
Speaker 5: as possible. So I'm figuring he's going to get the
Speaker 5: win over Claudia or Mox. I have a hard time
Speaker 5: having seeing them give Moxy l with the title on
Speaker 5: the line at the pay per view. I don't know
Speaker 5: if that's the right time to do that, but I
Speaker 5: definitely think Joe's getting the pin or the win, and
Speaker 5: I think it'll probably be over Claudia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, And then keep in mind that, you
Speaker 3: know we talked about earlier, what if Brian Danielson rears
Speaker 3: his ugly head. You know, during this match, the American
Speaker 3: Dragon gets involved in it in some way, whether it's
Speaker 3: at the back or whatever, just to get just a
Speaker 3: stadown to get into the death Writer's head, you know.
Speaker 3: So if this is the case where the opps, I
Speaker 3: will mispronounce it again.
Speaker 2: If the opps do win this match and like somebody
Speaker 2: like Brian Danielson or something, somebody else hangman in him
Speaker 2: page whoever, Kenny o'bago whatever, gets involved in some way,
Speaker 2: shape or form. Like Again, it doesn't have to be
Speaker 2: in the ring.
Speaker 3: It had maybe even in the back before the match,
Speaker 3: you know, just a staredown or some words or you know,
Speaker 3: knowing glances or something.
Speaker 2: Then I can see this being a good entry point
Speaker 2: at the Dynamite. Other than that, if it's just a
Speaker 2: regular match with the Death Writers winning again and nothing
Speaker 2: going on other than regular Death Riders stop, then I
Speaker 2: don't want to see it.
Speaker 4: No, I actually think that Brent Danielson is going to
Speaker 4: cause them the title. I think he's going to come out,
Speaker 4: his music's going to hit. It's going to distract MUCKs,
Speaker 4: and it's going to cost Marks the match, and it's
Speaker 4: going to start the downfall of the Death Riders.
Speaker 2: Right, But anybody else who what, well, how would you
Speaker 2: start Dynamite tomorrow night? What match?
Speaker 5: I would take a page of the old WCW booking
Speaker 5: and you put the most exciting, fast paced match to
Speaker 5: start the show to get everybody amped up. It was
Speaker 5: Luca's back in the day, but we live in the
Speaker 5: modern era of the twenty twenties and we get to
Speaker 5: see arguably the top two professional wrestlers in ring in
Speaker 5: the world go at it. I'm putting our boy, Bill
Speaker 5: will Osprey against to Kesha open that show. Yeah, everybody,
Speaker 5: it's going to get the crowd all hyped up. They're
Speaker 5: not going to They're going to go twelve minutes, so
Speaker 5: it's it's fine. They won't overshadow everybody else because everybody
Speaker 5: else has much more story in their matches. It doesn't
Speaker 5: need to be a super crazy match. So that's who
Speaker 5: i'd start out with. I probably do the tag team next,
Speaker 5: since everybody knows who's winning that. I do the women
Speaker 5: at the top of the hour at nine o'clock. I
Speaker 5: think that's the next biggest match before the title match.
Speaker 5: Then you follow it up with Hangar and the debut
Speaker 5: of Josh Alexander, And if we're going to do a
Speaker 5: title change on the show, and I think everybody expects
Speaker 5: the trio change and you want to make it a
Speaker 5: big deal, you do that as the main event, especially
Speaker 5: if you've got somebody coming back like Daniel sent or
Speaker 5: other surprises at the main event.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of agree with you.
Speaker 3: Only change I would make is I would actually put
Speaker 3: Hagman and the Joker Josh Alexander as the opening match. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're you know, I because the only reason I say that,
Speaker 3: and this is true, The only reason I say that
Speaker 3: is that back in twenty twenty three, you know, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four, the running joke was, hey, guess what Orange
Speaker 3: Cassady had the first match on Dynamite, you know, and
Speaker 3: he did.
Speaker 2: He had the first match on Dynamite. It seemed like
Speaker 2: for sixteen weeks in a row, you know.
Speaker 3: And it's getting to the point where Osprey has opened
Speaker 3: up Dynamite or Collision quite a bit, and I think
Speaker 3: it's becoming not as special because if you know that
Speaker 3: it's going to be Will Osprey every week, you know,
Speaker 3: so to the old the only reason I.
Speaker 2: Look Takeshta and Osprey could very well be the opening match.
Speaker 2: It can very well be the main event. You know,
Speaker 2: it's it's going to be a.
Speaker 5: Great match wherever. Yeah, just keep that away from whatever
Speaker 5: the next second important matches you don't want something having
Speaker 5: to follow that. That's important. That's why I want them
Speaker 5: to go first, right or they're going to go later.
Speaker 5: But to your point, we want to keep some distance
Speaker 5: between them and whoever else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, no, I agree with you that the
Speaker 3: tag team match should be the second match. I agree
Speaker 3: with you hundred percent on that, Absolutely agree with you
Speaker 3: on that. All right, guys, Well, that's gonna do it
Speaker 3: for Ignition for tonight. We thank everybody for listening, and
Speaker 3: thank you Barry and Sutton and Nett for joining us
Speaker 3: tonight and sharing your thoughts. We will be back tomorrow
Speaker 3: night for our review of a W Dynamite Dynamite Spring
Speaker 3: Breakthrough from Boston, Massachusetts. Well, I think we're gonna be
Speaker 3: talking about this Mercedes Bonet and Athena match quite extensively.
Speaker 2: I for some reason, I think something's gonna happen big year. Something.
Speaker 2: I mean, will Mercedes Bonet take her first loss in
Speaker 2: a singles match in a W I kind of hope
Speaker 2: so in her hometown. I think that that's brilliant that
Speaker 2: it would be done in her hometown.
Speaker 5: But we'll talk about that town in the rubber match. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they both get to one in their hometown.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's gonna be Yeah, I'd like
Speaker 2: to see.
Speaker 3: Athena win and and uh and I mentioned this before
Speaker 3: that she changes her mind with the Owen. She says,
Speaker 3: I don't want.
Speaker 2: Tony Storm, I want Mercedes about ay, I want the
Speaker 2: TBS Championship out the world Championship, So it'll be Mercedes
Speaker 2: against Athena forty a w TBS championship at all in
Speaker 2: I really do think that a drama. I think I
Speaker 2: don't know if the Owen.
Speaker 3: I believe there has to be a winner. I think
Speaker 3: that's part of the rules. I'm not sure. I don't
Speaker 3: think you can't go.
Speaker 2: To a draw.
Speaker 3: I agree with you that it would be interesting if
Speaker 3: it did go to a draw, but I don't think
Speaker 3: it will well if it.
Speaker 2: Does go to a draw, What does that mean?
Speaker 4: Does it mean that the winner of Yeah, the winner
Speaker 4: of Stat and Uh Lynch or Becky.
Speaker 2: Lynch the other the other Jimmie Hayter.
Speaker 4: Jamie Hayter and Stat, whoever wins that we get the
Speaker 4: total shot?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: I what would be the winner of Jamie Hayter and
Speaker 3: Stat will then face Athena and Mercedes Monet in a
Speaker 3: three way at double or nothing. That's how you protect
Speaker 3: Mercedes Monet, and that's how you protect Athena as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then one of them is going to have
Speaker 4: to lose it at the pay per view.
Speaker 2: Well, one of us got to lose eventually, but you definitely.
Speaker 4: Not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because I'm saying you're baking a triple threat
Speaker 3: and that's that. But you want the one on one
Speaker 3: loss to come in a pay per view, you know,
Speaker 3: so I I for some reason, I don't think that
Speaker 3: just because it's in Boston, it makes versites untouchable. Tomorrow night,
Speaker 3: I think that there's gonna be a swerve there, and
Speaker 3: that's where strickling but a different kind of sword.
Speaker 2: But anyway, we'll talk about it tomorrow night at length.
Speaker 2: We'll see if if if we're right.
Speaker 5: You know, during the lydst Oh my god, it squerve?
Speaker 5: What's he doing on here?
Speaker 2: Yeah or whatever? I don't know. It's it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: But anyway, before we go off the air, I wanted
Speaker 2: to bring up one little thing but I found pretty hysterical.
Speaker 2: On Ring of Honor. We had the debut last week
Speaker 2: of Nick's Nixy XS. She calls herself the versaceae of violence,
Speaker 2: and she has been going at it with chanrass Sap
Speaker 2: on Twitter and it's it's hysterical. It's because she made
Speaker 2: a graphic. Chenrass Sap discovered Canva and he's been making
Speaker 2: his own graphics and she copied his graphics and put
Speaker 2: headlines about herself in them. And Seaun ross Sap has
Speaker 2: been asking her tongue in cheek. By the way, you
Speaker 2: can tell that they're having fun. Tell her to please stop.
Speaker 2: You know, some of the words are coming out of
Speaker 2: Nicky's Nixy's mouth is uh, well, I can't repeat them here.
Speaker 2: Put it that way.
Speaker 3: She's not the most ladylike of wrestlers. But if you
Speaker 3: get a chance, go on nix Nixy at I XI
Speaker 3: Space XS, look her up on Twitter and look up
Speaker 3: her battle with Sean ross Sapp. It's actually quite funny
Speaker 3: and cute. But anyway, there was.
Speaker 2: Rumors that AW or a w r H had signed her,
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's true because I've not seen
Speaker 2: anything you know about it. But she does put in
Speaker 2: her she did in her recent pictures. She does put
Speaker 2: down as seen on AW So there you go. I
Speaker 2: was kind of shocked that it wasn't her against Megan
Speaker 2: Bain the other night as one of the opponents instead
Speaker 2: of Llen k and Kelly Maddon. But anyway, we will
Speaker 2: see you tomorrow night for all the talk right after
Speaker 2: Dynamite goes off the air, join us. If you're around
Speaker 2: on the Wrestling Hub discord, you can join in the
Speaker 2: join in the fun. Just turn on your mic, we'll
Speaker 2: bring you up here and you can just chat away
Speaker 2: with us. Because you see how it is.
Speaker 3: We are very informal. We just talk and have fun.
Speaker 3: So for the ae W fan Hubb podcast team, this
Speaker 3: is Kelson. Good night everybody.
Speaker 4: Good night guys,