Speaker 1: Boundleish Authenticity Podcast. Thanks for tuning in to the Boundless
Speaker 1: Authenticity Podcast. Today, we are going to talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about secret space stuff because that's one of the
Speaker 1: things that you guys have requested to hear more about,
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, I'm very tickled by this topic as well.
Speaker 1: So I'm joined by Olivia James, who was born into
Speaker 1: the programs by a family of drug traffickers. Olivia was
Speaker 1: trauma trained in programs like MK Ultra, where her mind
Speaker 1: was split to create alters to use for missions on
Speaker 1: Earth and in space. She was used for espionage, cult beta,
Speaker 1: and corporate programs. Olivia's main focus is finding her memories,
Speaker 1: using them to heal her alters, and hoping that her
Speaker 1: memories can assist others. So, Olivia, how's it going good?
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm glad to have you on.
Speaker 1: I have not had anyone really talk talk too much
Speaker 1: about this topic before, but I know that you have
Speaker 1: a vast wealth of information on this topic that is
Speaker 1: going to probably hurt a lot of heads.
Speaker 2: So I'll just let you take it away here. It
Speaker 2: will okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how.
Speaker 2: Did I start?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How'd you figure that this was going on? In the
Speaker 2: first place.
Speaker 4: I figured it out because of a job. Actually, actually
Speaker 4: I had gotten a new job, and the job is
Speaker 4: what triggered everything in me because it was similar to
Speaker 4: a job I had done in the programs. And I
Speaker 4: didn't realize it, but I was getting triggers every day
Speaker 4: and extreme anxiety. I couldn't work, you know, and I
Speaker 4: didn't know something was wrong, but something was pushing me
Speaker 4: to figure out what was wrong. I was getting like
Speaker 4: these huge amounts of information and memories and I had
Speaker 4: no idea what it meant. And that's how I discovered
Speaker 4: just from getting conscious recalling. I decided to start with
Speaker 4: noosis hypnotic aggression to see what I could find, and
Speaker 4: it kind of blew everything open. It kind of blew
Speaker 4: my mind open to where I could get a lot
Speaker 4: of information and kind of activated or reactivated or helped
Speaker 4: me rediscover some of the things I could do, some
Speaker 4: of the abilities I have that I wasn't fully aware
Speaker 4: that I had. I mean, I had a paranormal life,
Speaker 4: you know, the whole time I've been alive, but I
Speaker 4: just didn't know where it came from. And now that
Speaker 4: I do, it's given me lots of freedom in order
Speaker 4: to expand on all these memories and help other people, hopefully.
Speaker 4: I do want to do a disclaimer that anything I
Speaker 4: say is based on my own personal experiences and my
Speaker 4: own personal perspective, soak right to believe what they want
Speaker 4: to believe. Everyone has their own belief and belief systems,
Speaker 4: their own experiences, and this is my truth. And that's
Speaker 4: why I express it the way I do. It's because
Speaker 4: it's directly from me, and nobody has to agree or disagree.
Speaker 4: It's totally your choice.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I want to point out as well that if someone
Speaker 1: is having a hard time listening to what you're saying,
Speaker 1: listen anyway, because that points out somewhere inside of you
Speaker 1: that maybe you need to ask some questions or figure
Speaker 1: out for yourself why it is that you don't believe
Speaker 1: that people have their own, unique, individual experiences. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what You're not going to get anywhere in
Speaker 1: life if you don't start trying to understand other people differences. Yea,
Speaker 1: and bring you closer together and they can sure as
Speaker 1: he'll make you smarter.
Speaker 2: And I totally agree.
Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, sure, yeah, I was I was going
Speaker 1: to ask if you mind me asking you what job
Speaker 1: it is you were doing, just so that we have
Speaker 1: some context.
Speaker 4: I was doing something similar to a human resources type employment,
Speaker 4: working with people things like that. It was like a
Speaker 4: human resource office work, which that'll tie in. I'll start,
Speaker 4: let me start the story so I could tie that
Speaker 4: in because it's like what okay, so I always start off.
Speaker 4: I'm just going all the way back to saying that
Speaker 4: I had interesting parents. My father, he was from a
Speaker 4: small town and he was recruited very young for military intelligence,
Speaker 4: the ASA Army Security Agency when he was about eighteen
Speaker 4: years old and he got recruited for intelligence, so he
Speaker 4: was on the German and Russian border doing code breaking.
Speaker 4: He learned German very fast, so he was doing that
Speaker 4: kind of work at a very young age. When he
Speaker 4: came out of the military, he kind of was kind
Speaker 4: of floundering, not knowing which way to go, and he
Speaker 4: ended up getting involved with some we call them now cartels,
Speaker 4: but back in the sixties they didn't have that word yet.
Speaker 4: They it was kind of almost like a crime syndicate,
Speaker 4: is what they would you describe it as. So he
Speaker 4: started working with a lot of different, you know, different
Speaker 4: nefarious characters, getting involved into what he became like a
Speaker 4: really major drug trafficker in the sixties and seventies, and
Speaker 4: he was bringing large amounts of heroin across the border
Speaker 4: by bus.
Speaker 2: By car.
Speaker 4: He was a pilot too, you know, how to flyplane,
Speaker 4: but a lot of it. And the busting part was
Speaker 4: my mom actually helped him do that part. She was
Speaker 4: helping him embezzle the money that they were making. So
Speaker 4: they were making quite a bit of money at very
Speaker 4: young age. I'm talking these are like nineteen twenty years old,
Speaker 4: you know, doing this type of work, and I was
Speaker 4: just a baby, and so they were breaking in all
Speaker 4: this money and imagine you know that kind of money
Speaker 4: and you know, almost like just people out of their teens,
Speaker 4: you know, doing I mean, I know there were different
Speaker 4: times then, but it's still kind of hard to believe sometimes.
Speaker 4: But they were doing really well, and my father got
Speaker 4: addicted to his own product. And if anybody knows anything
Speaker 4: about the if you've done any research, does a lot
Speaker 4: of research out there about the drug trade in the
Speaker 4: sixties and seven, they see there is a lot of
Speaker 4: information about how certain three letter agencies were involved with that,
Speaker 4: and the same thing with him. He was involved with
Speaker 4: them because he was in military intelligence, and he came
Speaker 4: out and started working like as a middleman kind of
Speaker 4: between the groups. But what was the problem problem was
Speaker 4: is they can't you know, the behaviors that he was
Speaker 4: exhibiting when he was addicted, was missing drops, missing meetings,
Speaker 4: you know, not doing the same work that he was
Speaker 4: doing before.
Speaker 2: They can't have that.
Speaker 4: You know, that's that's a huge risk of huge liability
Speaker 4: to their whole you know, process, their program, everything that
Speaker 4: they were doing. So they tried to scare them and
Speaker 4: to scare them straight almost and it didn't you know,
Speaker 4: obviously it didn't work. They rated him once just to
Speaker 4: let them know, hey, you need a straighten up. This
Speaker 4: isn't you can't do this. You know this you got
Speaker 4: to straighten up. And it didn't work. And then so
Speaker 4: they ended up doing a big, huge raid, you know,
Speaker 4: the second time. They ended up you know, break crashing
Speaker 4: through the fence, beating them up, and you know, he
Speaker 4: ended up getting arrested, and he was looking at life
Speaker 4: in prison, really was.
Speaker 2: And there was a big, huge public trial.
Speaker 4: I remember, you know, seeing like pieces of some old
Speaker 4: news clippings where they were like artists renditions of him,
Speaker 4: like in the courtroom and things like that. So he
Speaker 4: went through this big, huge public trial. He had a
Speaker 4: big fancy lawyer every thing, and he was going to
Speaker 4: go to prison. And at the end of the trial,
Speaker 4: they literally just dropped everything and said, never mind, we
Speaker 4: have the wrong person. That's all they said. And then
Speaker 4: they gave him a local government job. So they gave
Speaker 4: somebody that was a known drug trafficker, heroin addict, they
Speaker 4: gave him a local government job and just dropped all
Speaker 4: the charges against him. So what I found out, and
Speaker 4: you know, in my different ways, you know, with recall,
Speaker 4: with remote viewing, with hypnotic regression, I was able to
Speaker 4: find out through my own father who's dead now, that
Speaker 4: the reason why he was able to get out of
Speaker 4: his situation so easily is because he signed me over.
Speaker 4: They wanted something in return to give him his life
Speaker 4: back and not have to go to prison for life,
Speaker 4: and he signed them and let them have me. Even
Speaker 4: as a little kid, I was already signed over to them,
Speaker 4: so that meant they could use me for whatever they wanted.
Speaker 4: And I always you know, it was his cowardice that
Speaker 4: created this life for me. You know, the life of
Speaker 4: trauma as a child was because of his cowardice, and
Speaker 4: he was afraid to go to prison, or maybe he
Speaker 4: felt like he sacrificed a lot, you know, sacrifice one
Speaker 4: to save the rest. Who knows, you know. Kind of
Speaker 4: what I'm thinking, though, is from what he tells me
Speaker 4: to as you know, in his spirit form, he said
Speaker 4: it was when he was on this earth, he just
Speaker 4: was different from what he is now because he had
Speaker 4: he had a different role to play, and he didn't
Speaker 4: really care about other people the way you know, maybe
Speaker 4: we had wanted him to, and me and him never
Speaker 4: were able to find common ground when he was alive.
Speaker 4: It just he always we always felt separate. You know,
Speaker 4: I couldn't get that connection with him. You know, he
Speaker 4: didn't really want to be around me and talk to
Speaker 4: me that much. And you know, in my sessions, I'm
Speaker 4: asking him, you know, why why did you do that?
Speaker 4: He'd be said, because looking at me, he felt disgusted,
Speaker 4: he said, it was disgusted by looking at me and
Speaker 4: what he you know, what they had created, you know,
Speaker 4: in those in kultra. You know, I was a disgusting
Speaker 4: thing for him to look at. He thought it was
Speaker 4: gross what they were doing to me. So in my mind,
Speaker 4: you know, he knew kind of a little that it
Speaker 4: wasn't Whatever they were doing to me was hurting me,
Speaker 4: but he didn't. He couldn't stop it, and he kind
Speaker 4: of felt like, I don't know if it was a
Speaker 4: little bit of guilt, but he really didn't show a
Speaker 4: lot of guilt, mainly just that he didn't want to
Speaker 4: be around somebody like that, you know. So that's why
Speaker 4: we couldn't. We never really found that common ground. But actually,
Speaker 4: now that he's dead, we actually have a better relationship
Speaker 4: when I you know, when I see him doing my
Speaker 4: sessions or talk to him, he's almost like a spirit
Speaker 4: guide now when he always comes to protect me and
Speaker 4: help me and you know, give me some guidance, which
Speaker 4: I really appreciate. We have an entirely different relationship now.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of how I got signed over. So
Speaker 4: in order to get into MK Ultra. Actually this happened.
Speaker 4: I want to say it was around six or seven,
Speaker 4: and it's very fuzzy and so and I always wanted
Speaker 4: to say, you know, it's very difficult to create a
Speaker 4: linear timeline when there's so many missing so many missing pieces,
Speaker 4: so much different technology for memory suppression. I don't want
Speaker 4: anybody to drive themselves crazy trying to find a linear timeline.
Speaker 4: It's not always possible. It's just not you know, if
Speaker 4: somebody can find a linear timeline, I think that's amazing,
Speaker 4: but it's not possible for everyone. I personally don't have
Speaker 4: a linear timeline for my experiences. So and I still
Speaker 4: would advise people if you're looking at trying to get
Speaker 4: your memories, don't, you know, don't focus too much on
Speaker 4: the linear timeline if if you can't get it, because
Speaker 4: that'll that'll keep you, that'll hold you back for a
Speaker 4: long time if you can't get it. But when I
Speaker 4: was about six or seven, I was taken to and
Speaker 4: I remember the only thing I remember is being taken
Speaker 4: in a black van with people. I didn't cry or
Speaker 4: did but even at that age, I didn't cry a lot,
Speaker 4: I didn't talk a lot. I wasn't very.
Speaker 2: Vocal, you know.
Speaker 4: I had a kind of a different, really shy, quiet
Speaker 4: kind of kid. And they took me to a psychiatric
Speaker 4: hospital on the East coast. And this hospital is it's
Speaker 4: no longer open anymore. So sometimes I look at pictures
Speaker 4: of it and online, you know, just because it's so
Speaker 4: weird to see it, like physically and so when I
Speaker 4: got there, there was a woman there. And it's really
Speaker 4: interesting that the programmer where I was at was a
Speaker 4: woman and she had two assistants. They were what we
Speaker 4: would pack in those days called orderlies or something like that.
Speaker 4: We would call them that. They're two males. And it
Speaker 4: was a woman, and she had white hair, and she
Speaker 4: kept her hair pinned up, you know, like in the
Speaker 4: seventies style. She always wore these really nice flowy pants suits.
Speaker 4: And you know, growing up the way I did with
Speaker 4: my parents, you know, as you know, very after he
Speaker 4: my parents lost everything. They were very poor, and we
Speaker 4: just kind of grew up very I always wanted to
Speaker 4: just stand weird. I don't know how else to explain it.
Speaker 4: So I wasn't around the type of person that she was.
Speaker 4: I was never around those types of people, you know,
Speaker 4: So to me, she looked very otherworldly. You know, I
Speaker 4: kind of looked at her like, I don't know, almost ethereal,
Speaker 4: Like she had this look. But it was really strange
Speaker 4: to see because she was the one that's ordinating all
Speaker 4: of the trauma, all of the you know, the training
Speaker 4: for monarch and things like that, and we had this
Speaker 4: special space. It was only me and another boy and
Speaker 4: his name was Jacob. So it was a very small
Speaker 4: kind of like experimental program from what I can gather,
Speaker 4: and she had, you know, certain baseline things that she
Speaker 4: wanted to attempt, and one of them was called singlepated dissociation.
Speaker 4: She wanted us to be able to, you know, feel
Speaker 4: that trauma. At the same time, they thought there was
Speaker 4: some type of power in being able to dissociate together,
Speaker 4: like if you can reach a certain state. They felt
Speaker 4: there were some kind of energetic you know, anomaly that
Speaker 4: could be created from that. You know. So what they
Speaker 4: would do is do this systematic, almost systematic type torture.
Speaker 4: So it was almost like a kid's program where they
Speaker 4: would it's almost like that basic behavior modification where you
Speaker 4: can hear a bell, because we would expect, you know,
Speaker 4: the agenda of the day to change every fifteen to
Speaker 4: twenty minutes. It's expected that, you know, there'd be some
Speaker 4: certain type of trauma of physical abuse. Then they would
Speaker 4: be nice to you first, or chain you to a
Speaker 4: different activity, maybe LSD implementation, they would do an electric
Speaker 4: shock therapy, you know, than sexual abuse. They would change
Speaker 4: it with that a lot of psychological and emotional abuse
Speaker 4: which is very harmful because you know, these people would
Speaker 4: you know, physically abuse you and then they would treat
Speaker 4: you like maybe give you an ice cream or something.
Speaker 4: But then they were also giving us, you know, food
Speaker 4: filled with filth and things like that, forcing us to
Speaker 4: try to eat that. And they wanted this. They wanted
Speaker 4: to break us down. They wanted to break our minds
Speaker 4: so much that it would just be empty and then
Speaker 4: they could rebuild it into what they wanted. And I
Speaker 4: think that, you know, they diagnose a lot of us,
Speaker 4: you know, survivors that went through MK Ultra, they say
Speaker 4: we have dissociative identity sorter. It's extremely way more complex
Speaker 4: than that. There's so much more involved than just one
Speaker 4: diagnosis saying that you have these different personalities alters. It's
Speaker 4: way more complex than they can even imagine. I've looked
Speaker 4: inside the mind. I've looked inside my own mind and
Speaker 4: saw there's worlds in there. There was worlds created by
Speaker 4: these altars on their own. It's very intense to see that.
Speaker 4: But they were creating, like I said, they were creating
Speaker 4: all these different altars by breaking down the mine. And
Speaker 4: they will build these pieces back up and try to
Speaker 4: like program them and a lot of it. And there
Speaker 4: was one other thing that they were doing that was
Speaker 4: really intense is the hypnosis. She had used hypnosis on
Speaker 4: both me and Jacob in her office. We're doing our
Speaker 4: sessions with her, and she was able to find things
Speaker 4: about us that were used for the programs in terms
Speaker 4: of like past lives and things like that. And that's
Speaker 4: how they saw that me and Jacob were special, is
Speaker 4: by looking at some of these past lives, not in
Speaker 4: the terms of special, more special than other people, special
Speaker 4: in the fact that they could use us. So that's
Speaker 4: the special They wanted to be able to use us
Speaker 4: for their own agendas. So I was going to talk
Speaker 4: about a little bit about those past lies on why
Speaker 4: they were so important, and that's this because this is
Speaker 4: why they thought they could use me for certain things.
Speaker 4: That's why I think these past lives are so important
Speaker 4: for them to see.
Speaker 1: I feel like you should go ahead and do that
Speaker 1: because I'm a hypnotherapist in case you didn't know that.
Speaker 1: So when you go through people's past lives, that's how
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff gets triggered and they begin
Speaker 1: to describe things that don't sound like they're from any
Speaker 1: human timeline. And then you get into this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So I'll let you go into it because that's incredibly
Speaker 1: relevant how you got there.
Speaker 4: Yes, and I just want to I've used a lot
Speaker 4: of different hypno therapists, so and I've heard all the suggestions.
Speaker 4: I've heard all the statements of people saying that, well,
Speaker 4: you probably were with some hypno therapists that guided you. No,
Speaker 4: that's not the case. All my sessions were recorded, and
Speaker 4: I used about six different people. You know, people think
Speaker 4: that you can't, I can't do this every time with
Speaker 4: someone different. Yes, I can, and I did, and I
Speaker 4: proved it by you know, recording everything and all the
Speaker 4: information I have. The first time I went under hypnosis,
Speaker 4: I had no idea I could even do this. I
Speaker 4: was under per almost six hours, constantly, just constant flow
Speaker 4: of information because it needed to happen, and my body
Speaker 4: and my mind knew that it needed to happen. And
Speaker 4: that's how it came through, flowing like almost like a
Speaker 4: just you know, when you burst a damn and then
Speaker 4: it just all comes out. And that's what happened to me.
Speaker 4: So it gives to me. I feel like it gives
Speaker 4: even the people completing the hypnotherapy. It gives them validation
Speaker 4: and validity in my eyes, you know, of what they
Speaker 4: can do because I was able to reproduce that you
Speaker 4: know experience every single time was something different, somebody different.
Speaker 4: It didn't matter who it was. I was able to
Speaker 4: do it each time. So some of the lives that
Speaker 4: got these people, these groups interested in me in the
Speaker 4: first place is one of the lives. It was the
Speaker 4: fourteen hundreds and I was a widow and I had
Speaker 4: two children. My husband had died, so I'm kind of
Speaker 4: out there by myself, and I was making it. I was,
Speaker 4: you know, doing a lot of different things. You know,
Speaker 4: back in those days it was a lot different. So
Speaker 4: you know, it was mainly you know, making sure the
Speaker 4: kids had food and figuring out how to do that,
Speaker 4: you know, living on my own, and I had what
Speaker 4: I would I guess I would be what people would
Speaker 4: describe as a medium in those days. And so I
Speaker 4: was getting extra food by helping some of the villagers out,
Speaker 4: you know, being able to speak with some of their
Speaker 4: loved ones who had passed over. I felt like I
Speaker 4: was really helping people. I felt great about what I
Speaker 4: was doing. I didn't think I was doing anything wrong,
Speaker 4: and they would come and they would bring me vegetables
Speaker 4: and you know, things to eat. That's how we would
Speaker 4: barter for the service. So it was working out for
Speaker 4: me pretty well. And so the inquisition they came through
Speaker 4: that town and they came straight somebody told you know,
Speaker 4: about what I was doing, and it came straight to me,
Speaker 4: and they came to my house and punched me in
Speaker 4: the face, you know, beat me up, dragged me to
Speaker 4: a wagon where they took me to a dungeon and
Speaker 4: they tortured me there. They did everything they could to
Speaker 4: try to make me admit that I was, you know,
Speaker 4: conspiring with the devil or demons or whatever they were saying,
Speaker 4: and I wouldn't and because it wasn't true. No, I
Speaker 4: didn't even know what they're talking about. I was like,
Speaker 4: that's not how I lived my life. You know, whatever
Speaker 4: I could do, it was just something that was born
Speaker 4: in me. I didn't you know, acquire it. It was
Speaker 4: born within me. It was born with me, my ability.
Speaker 4: And they tried everything they could do and I just
Speaker 4: didn't crack. And I remember being tied up to a
Speaker 4: ceiling by my arms. So I was hanging from the
Speaker 4: ceiling of the dungeon by my arms, and you know,
Speaker 4: a lot of it was, you know, the different torches.
Speaker 4: I wasn't burned at the stake or anything like that.
Speaker 4: I actually died in that life from dehydration and dehydration
Speaker 4: and starvation because I wasn't eating or drinking anything. They
Speaker 4: were just doing that. And I remember my uncle who
Speaker 4: had my boys now, he brought them once just to
Speaker 4: see me before I died, and I hated that he
Speaker 4: did that because there was like a little window in
Speaker 4: the dungeon where they could look down and see me,
Speaker 4: and they peeked through and I must have looked horrible,
Speaker 4: hanging from a ceiling, like naked and dirty and like,
Speaker 4: you know, just just I don't know. I can't even
Speaker 4: imagine what kind of nightmares they had after that. But
Speaker 4: I ended up dying, and I was so angry. I
Speaker 4: was so angry at men in that life because I
Speaker 4: felt like, you know, they did this to us, and
Speaker 4: they did it to a lot of people in the village,
Speaker 4: and that kind of anger stayed with me. It was
Speaker 4: in me, and they felt the programs felt like we
Speaker 4: can use this, we can this is something that they
Speaker 4: could use. That anger that was the left inside at
Speaker 4: these men for what they did to me. So that
Speaker 4: was one of the luws that they wanted to use,
Speaker 4: and especially since I had a medium mediumistic abilities in
Speaker 4: that life as well. There was one other life and
Speaker 4: this one's a little controversial, but I still think it's
Speaker 4: important and it was important for me to see myself
Speaker 4: as something other than what I am now. And I
Speaker 4: consider myself, you know, I feel like I work hard,
Speaker 4: I try to help people. But in that life I
Speaker 4: was something what people would consider like a victimizer or
Speaker 4: a serial killer. And it was in the eighteen hundreds
Speaker 4: and I was a male and I had grown up
Speaker 4: by myself, you know, my parents had died very young,
Speaker 4: and I was a street kid. I grew up on
Speaker 4: the streets, like traveling everywhere. I traveled all over the country,
Speaker 4: and I ended up meeting another person like I had
Speaker 4: like a friend that he was like me. You know,
Speaker 4: we we both wanted to hurt people, and we kind
Speaker 4: of traveled together and did that and we would harm women.
Speaker 2: We would have.
Speaker 4: And you know, leave them wherever we found them. And
Speaker 4: we were doing that so much. We were and we
Speaker 4: would we weren't being caught because we were traveling so much.
Speaker 4: We would do that in the village and then go
Speaker 4: to the next village. And we went and went and
Speaker 4: did that for a really long time, and we got careless.
Speaker 4: We went to a new village and we had assaulted
Speaker 4: a woman, you know, right and left her out in
Speaker 4: the field. You know, in those days, it was it
Speaker 4: seemed like it had been easier for us to you know,
Speaker 4: complete this you know, evil thing. And we ended up
Speaker 4: going to a local pub and we were kind of
Speaker 4: like drinking with some of the villagers, and somebody found
Speaker 4: her and they automatically knew it was us, because there
Speaker 4: was no one else knew in the village. It was us,
Speaker 4: they knew, and we ran.
Speaker 2: We ran it.
Speaker 4: We thought we could get away. We ended up finding
Speaker 4: like an abandoned barn and we were hiding in there,
Speaker 4: and they knew we were in there, and instead of
Speaker 4: letting us out to you know, beat us up, they
Speaker 4: locked it and set it on fire. And I remember
Speaker 4: in that life just trying to crawl up, you know,
Speaker 4: crawl up the walls and get up into the rafters,
Speaker 4: you know, to get away from the heat. And we
Speaker 4: ended up dying like that, rightfully, So for what the
Speaker 4: crimes we were committing you know, we needed to be
Speaker 4: you know, over in that life. So that was another
Speaker 4: life where they saw that they could use that, you know,
Speaker 4: not just against me, but for other missions against other people.
Speaker 4: They knew that they could use that, you know, of
Speaker 4: who I had been before. So that was and there
Speaker 4: was also another life, and this one was really interesting.
Speaker 4: I thought this was coming from my very first session
Speaker 4: I ever did, and I saw myself and it was
Speaker 4: almost it looked like could have been something like ancient Egypt,
Speaker 4: something like that. And I was a mail done too,
Speaker 4: and there was thousands of us just walking, all of
Speaker 4: us people just walking and walking, and none of us
Speaker 4: really made eye contact. We didn't talk to each other,
Speaker 4: nothing like that. We were all walking around like what
Speaker 4: I would consider like automatons or like robotically just kept going.
Speaker 4: And if I looked very far in the distance, if
Speaker 4: I had looked at one of the pyramids, there was
Speaker 4: a being standing on top of the pyramid, and it
Speaker 4: looked like a giant dog. And we called them the
Speaker 4: dog people. We had a myth in our village that
Speaker 4: said that the dog people came down and killed our god,
Speaker 4: and that our god had been a crocodile, and we
Speaker 4: said that the dog people came down and killed him,
Speaker 4: and they had taken control and they were pushing us
Speaker 4: to do all this. And let me tell you, these
Speaker 4: beings were so strong in whatever technology and whatever abilities
Speaker 4: they had. It only took one of them to command
Speaker 4: thousands to continue walking and working. And they would make
Speaker 4: us work until we died. So you would just keep
Speaker 4: walking and moving sand. And they were building something called
Speaker 4: flash portals, and they wanted it done quickly, so they
Speaker 4: had us moving constantly, constantly moving and building in moving
Speaker 4: sand until you just died. And most of us would
Speaker 4: just die wherever we fell down. And I actually just
Speaker 4: lay down on the steps and died, and that's where
Speaker 4: that's where the last I sat. What I thought was
Speaker 4: interesting is when I was trying to scan the body
Speaker 4: of this dog person, I saw that in the inside
Speaker 4: of it, right around the solar plexus area, there was
Speaker 4: like this huge glob of black worms that was actually
Speaker 4: the dog person was a host for this kind of
Speaker 4: like I don't know, some type of extraterrestrial type sentient thing.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what it was, but I remember
Speaker 4: seeing it. So I thought it was interesting that this
Speaker 4: dog person was commanding us, and he thought he was
Speaker 4: in control, but something was in control of him, and
Speaker 4: he was very forward and aggressive with me like he could.
Speaker 4: Which is interesting that when you're under hypnosis or if
Speaker 4: you're in the deepest trance, you can go which I was.
Speaker 4: That the time dropped away. There was no time I
Speaker 4: was there. I could interact with this thing and it
Speaker 4: almost like it stepped through a portal almost and spoke
Speaker 4: to me, and the only thing it said was get
Speaker 4: back to work. You know, this interdimensional type being stepped
Speaker 4: through and instead of giving some really cool greeting like
Speaker 4: you would expect, it said to get back to work
Speaker 4: and showed me its staff and said get back to work.
Speaker 2: And that was it.
Speaker 4: So I remember being in that life that as a slave,
Speaker 4: I knew. My lesson kind of was that I knew
Speaker 4: what it was to be completely controlled, and in the
Speaker 4: eyes of these programmers, that was perfect for them to
Speaker 4: see that I could be someone that could be completely
Speaker 4: controlled based on that life that they knew that they
Speaker 4: could go down that road with me. And the other
Speaker 4: life that I thought was really important that they thought
Speaker 4: was important too is that. And when I'm looking at myself,
Speaker 4: I can't really see myself because I'm kind of like invisible.
Speaker 4: I'm like a red energy. And this was in ancient times,
Speaker 4: and I remember I was following somebody in a desert.
Speaker 4: You know, they can't see me, but I can see them,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you know, playing around games with them,
Speaker 4: you know, walking up behind them, trying to whisper at them,
Speaker 4: and you know, almost like teasing him. I almost felt
Speaker 4: like it was so fun to do this, you know.
Speaker 4: And this person was terrified. He was out looking for
Speaker 4: one of the flock, his flock. One of the sheep
Speaker 4: had gotten away from it and he was trying to
Speaker 4: find it before I got too dark. And he was
Speaker 4: terrified that I was following him in the desert and
Speaker 4: he could hear me. He knew there was something wrong,
Speaker 4: and he was like terrified, and I thought it was funny.
Speaker 4: I thought it was so fun because that's kind of
Speaker 4: the life I lived. And back in those days, I
Speaker 4: would be considered what people would call it dark gin.
Speaker 4: So some people say dark entity. Some people have all
Speaker 4: these different ideas of what they think that those people were.
Speaker 4: All I know is that we were a race of
Speaker 4: beings and that we have like we had our own lives.
Speaker 4: We had our own hierarchy in terms of like, you know,
Speaker 4: who was on top, who was you know, you know,
Speaker 4: we have like we have a respect thing. You have
Speaker 4: supposed to show respect to your elders and things like that.
Speaker 4: So I guess we would consider And this is what
Speaker 4: the Gin says. I'm not saying that I believe this.
Speaker 4: Her name was Harlewin. I was named Harleowin. Then she
Speaker 4: says she was something of a trickster god. So she says,
Speaker 4: that's what the Gin were, tricksters. So I necessarily don't
Speaker 4: call myself that, but she does. So she was doing
Speaker 4: that was her whole life, and she didn't know she
Speaker 4: was evil. She even said that. She's like, I didn't
Speaker 4: know I was evil then because I chose this role
Speaker 4: and I came down here to help people. And we
Speaker 4: kind of asked her, who do you think you're helping
Speaker 4: by doing evil things and you know, and she said,
Speaker 4: they wanted an experience of darkness and I brought it
Speaker 4: to them. She said, that was the role I chose,
Speaker 4: is to bring that to these people. And they called me,
Speaker 4: and she really does think that they call her, and
Speaker 4: they did almost in a way.
Speaker 2: Some of them did. Some of it was the.
Speaker 4: Harlew and the Gin. She would start that process of
Speaker 4: oppression though, and you know, trying to tear them down
Speaker 4: little by little, scaring them and you know, doing things
Speaker 4: and you know, just to oppress them enough to where
Speaker 4: they would eventually just let her take over. And it
Speaker 4: happened a lot. They would the person would just give
Speaker 4: up and just say go ahead, and you know, they
Speaker 4: let her in and she would take over. And once
Speaker 4: she would take over, she would you know, do her
Speaker 4: process of trying to destroy their lives. However she can
Speaker 4: either make them hurt themselves other people, just totally obliterate
Speaker 4: their lives. And that was the role she plays. That
Speaker 4: was the role she chose in that time period. And
Speaker 4: then she went on to do something else, just like
Speaker 4: I'm here now. We went on to do something else.
Speaker 4: And I can't really apologize for it because I can't
Speaker 4: eliminate any of the past lives. I just that's If
Speaker 4: anybody knows how to do that, you can tell me.
Speaker 4: But I don't feel bad for that. It's not me now.
Speaker 4: You know, all these things are part of me still,
Speaker 4: and that's why I know about it, and it's to
Speaker 4: me it stays at the cellular level. From what I've
Speaker 4: learned through hypnosis is that a lot of these lives
Speaker 4: and these abilities stay at the cellular level, sometimes even
Speaker 4: in the spine. What I've learned some of it is
Speaker 4: resting in the spine. It's so interesting to even see that.
Speaker 4: And I also learned that a lot of psychabilities come
Speaker 4: from the stomach. We wouldn't expect that because, you know,
Speaker 4: we think a lot of it is built in the mind.
Speaker 4: I had no idea that a lot of some of
Speaker 4: the abilities that I have were initiate in the stomach,
Speaker 4: So that was really interesting. So those were some of
Speaker 4: the lives that were very important to those secret groups
Speaker 4: that were trying to get control. There's a lot of
Speaker 4: warring factions and that's what they're trying to do. So
Speaker 4: they thought they could use us for different programs. And
Speaker 4: I've found a lot of different past lives that I've
Speaker 4: wrote about in my books and things like that that
Speaker 4: I thought were interesting. But I think those were the
Speaker 4: most important that they wanted to use. They knew they
Speaker 4: could use me being what used to be a dark
Speaker 4: entity that was important to them. They had all these
Speaker 4: groups that they could use me for so the programmer,
Speaker 4: who I call missus w the woman with the white hair,
Speaker 4: she ended up sending me out. She'd almost like a
Speaker 4: referral program and what I call special sector. I was
Speaker 4: from a special sector and that says that in my
Speaker 4: file that I'm from special sector. So she sent me
Speaker 4: out to another person to be evaluated. And when I
Speaker 4: got to this man's office, I was there and he
Speaker 4: was there with two other people, and it was they
Speaker 4: were sitting on a little couch and it didn't look
Speaker 4: like a hospital. It looked more like a psychiatrist's office
Speaker 4: that they had like really neutral looking furniture things like that.
Speaker 4: And I was just sitting there and there was this
Speaker 4: couple there and they looked like they may have been twins.
Speaker 4: They were very light skinned, maybe had albino condition. I'm
Speaker 4: not quite sure. But the man when I saw him,
Speaker 4: his name was doctor Green, and he was very elderly,
Speaker 4: maybe like in his nineties, I couldn't even tell, very
Speaker 4: frail at that time, had like he was wearing little
Speaker 4: glasses and very much losing almost all of his hair.
Speaker 4: He was very skinny at that time. And I'm not
Speaker 4: quite sure, but a lot of people say that doctor
Speaker 4: Green is another name for Mangola. I'm not quite sure
Speaker 4: if that's real or not, because I only know him
Speaker 4: as doctor Green, and I do remember what he looks like,
Speaker 4: and it was very old at that time. But he
Speaker 4: instructed this these two people to do an exam on me.
Speaker 4: And they were doing kind of this weird thing where
Speaker 4: they asked me, you know, they were looking in my
Speaker 4: eyes and my ears, you know, in my you know,
Speaker 4: different places, and then they told me to open my
Speaker 4: mouth and say ah, and they both looked inside my mouth,
Speaker 4: down in my trying to look in my throat. And
Speaker 4: then they told Doctor Green they said yes, I said,
Speaker 4: They said, we found it. We can see the thing
Speaker 4: inside her. And so they took me into this program
Speaker 4: called Project Traveler and and it's tied to the occult.
Speaker 4: It's in a cult program that they wanted to experiment with.
Speaker 4: They were trying to make some of these I don't know,
Speaker 4: like paranormal, most supernatural and occult ideologies, or they wanted
Speaker 4: to make it measurable. They wanted to see if it
Speaker 4: had real energy output things like that. So that's when
Speaker 4: doctor Green started to you know, use me for a
Speaker 4: Project Traveler. So they were wrong though, because they thought
Speaker 4: I was possessed. They thought that I had an attachment,
Speaker 4: and they were looking for other possessed people to see
Speaker 4: if they could kind of like harness that energy and
Speaker 4: that power, because they thought there was power behind the
Speaker 4: dark side and they wanted to see what they could
Speaker 4: utilize it for. So when I got back to the
Speaker 4: psychiatric hospital, they did some experiments and they saw that
Speaker 4: I could go into these deep trances and let you know,
Speaker 4: different things take over my body. Since they thought I
Speaker 4: was already possessed. The reason they were wrong is because
Speaker 4: I wasn't possessed. It was just what I was. They
Speaker 4: saw Harlow and that gin part of me, you know,
Speaker 4: they thought that they could take it out.
Speaker 2: They can't.
Speaker 4: It was just who I will, in my in my being.
Speaker 4: I was just that thing. So they had one episode
Speaker 4: where they were doing like I don't know. They had
Speaker 4: me in this room and they were trying to do
Speaker 4: sensory deprivation and they didn't use water or anything. They
Speaker 4: just sat me in a chair in a dark room
Speaker 4: and they put blindfold over my eyes and then they
Speaker 4: hooked me up to an ivy and that went on
Speaker 4: for days, and they gave me no food, no water,
Speaker 4: you know, the just the ivy, no you know, contact.
Speaker 4: They didn't speak to me anything. They just had me
Speaker 4: let things you know, build up inside me, and I
Speaker 4: let that open up. And that's when I first learned
Speaker 4: I could do that. It's called spirit hosting. And actually
Speaker 4: it was a darker entity that told me that's what
Speaker 4: I was. They said, you're a spirit host and it's
Speaker 4: being able to open yourself up and letting this excuse me,
Speaker 4: letting this thing take over you your fully body, mind
Speaker 4: and spirit. I go into like a very relaxed kind
Speaker 4: of place and I don't get harmed by it physically, psychologically,
Speaker 4: or emotionally. And that's why it's an ability, because it
Speaker 4: can come, it can go, and I don't get harms
Speaker 4: by it in any way, which for them, it really
Speaker 4: is an ability because most people can't, you know, have
Speaker 4: a demon speak through them and have be normal after that.
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 4: So they were using that and they were measuring things
Speaker 4: like they would have me let something possess me and
Speaker 4: then they would make a measurement of it. They would
Speaker 4: do body systems checks like you know, blood pressure and
Speaker 4: you know, something similar to what they would do in
Speaker 4: the hospital. To check your levels and things like that,
Speaker 4: just to see if there was any type of energetic
Speaker 4: output at all. They were trying to make measurements, so
Speaker 4: that I thought that was really interesting that they did
Speaker 4: that for a long time. And I was really conflicted
Speaker 4: because they weren't giving me any food or anything. You know,
Speaker 4: they were pretty much torturing me, and you know, my
Speaker 4: whole life. You know, even now people are saying, you know,
Speaker 4: you can't trust you know, demons and entities, but the
Speaker 4: humans were torturing me constantly, and it was the demonic
Speaker 4: entities flowing in and out of my body that kept
Speaker 4: me a lot. They're the ones sustaining me while these
Speaker 4: other humans were torturing me. So as a child, you
Speaker 4: can find that very conflicting, like who are you supposed
Speaker 4: to trust? I'm supposed to be afraid and terrified of
Speaker 4: this group of you know, beings that no one can see,
Speaker 4: But then it's the humans that are physically and emotionally
Speaker 4: torturing me. That was really really very conflicting, and I
Speaker 4: think it's probably affected, you know, some of the work
Speaker 4: I do now that I'm able to open it up
Speaker 4: to everything and let everything have a chance to speak
Speaker 4: and then make no judgment on that. I just let
Speaker 4: it be neutral what it is. And then you know,
Speaker 4: I don't want to even make a judgment on what
Speaker 4: anything says or does. Is just different for me now.
Speaker 4: So we did that for a while, and like I said,
Speaker 4: me and Jacob ended it up. They considered us what
Speaker 4: they called prize pupils. That means we took to the
Speaker 4: abuse very well. We were able to do what they
Speaker 4: wanted to them, what they wanted us to do, and
Speaker 4: to be able to extreme dissociation. We were able to
Speaker 4: do that. We could leave our bodies to escape the pain.
Speaker 4: And that was actually the only time that we could
Speaker 4: be children is when we were left our bodies because
Speaker 4: they wouldn't let us lay together anything normally. It was
Speaker 4: always something to do with pain and suffering. So for
Speaker 4: us to be able to just dissociate and be able
Speaker 4: to have that time, that was what we had as children.
Speaker 4: That's it until we left that program, and I mean
Speaker 4: other things after that. There was a few things that
Speaker 4: happened in terms of like they did, like monarch training.
Speaker 4: I really don't talk about it too much. You know,
Speaker 4: the sexual part of what they were trying to train
Speaker 4: us for and they really couldn't use me a lot
Speaker 4: until I got older because they had a specific plan
Speaker 4: in mind for what they wanted me to do.
Speaker 2: But they did.
Speaker 4: When I was around thirteen, they had me doing additional
Speaker 4: training and the training was for what they wanted me
Speaker 4: to be is a personality profile when I got older.
Speaker 4: So they had a man chaperon me, and I remember
Speaker 4: the man he was. He had like a he was
Speaker 4: dressed really nicely in a suit. He had a nice
Speaker 4: little on, you know, and he was almost like a chaperone,
Speaker 4: and he really didn't talk to me or say anything.
Speaker 4: I just knew I had to go with him. I
Speaker 4: don't ask questions. That's how I was trained in the
Speaker 4: MK Ultra. You know, we're so extreme mind control. You're
Speaker 4: trained not to ask questions. You're trying to do exactly
Speaker 4: what you're told and always complete missions, you know, things
Speaker 4: like that. So he took me on a train and
Speaker 4: at the end of the train ride, we didn't we
Speaker 4: weren't on Earth anymore. We were actually on the Moon
Speaker 4: and to Level four Underground and Level four Underground is
Speaker 4: where they were conducting psionics. Psionics training and the class
Speaker 4: that I was going to it was more for adults
Speaker 4: and the instructor there. She was kind of a younger person.
Speaker 4: Everybody looked younger than they were, and I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Being on another planet, I'm not quite sure. Everybody always
Speaker 4: looked younger than they were, And so she didn't really
Speaker 4: want to deal with the kid. That wasn't her role,
Speaker 4: but they said she had to take me because I
Speaker 4: was from special sector, so there was no turning it down.
Speaker 4: So and she was very assertive and you know, kind
Speaker 4: of like dominating with me in terms of my tutelage
Speaker 4: and what she was trying to teach me. She wasn't
Speaker 4: very soft with me, but I can appreciate it now
Speaker 4: because I feel like she was trying to keep me
Speaker 4: alive based on how, you know, kind of strong she
Speaker 4: was with her teachings. And there was other people in
Speaker 4: the classroom. There was other adults, and I'm not quite
Speaker 4: sure what they can do with their abilities, So there
Speaker 4: was some kind of like telepaths, you know, animal communicators,
Speaker 4: things like that. I don't know if they were just
Speaker 4: experimenting or what with them, but mine was the ability
Speaker 4: they wanted me to have was actually going to be
Speaker 4: used in different espionage tactics and corporate espionage things like that.
Speaker 4: So she worked really hard with me. She taught me
Speaker 4: really well, and I always remember this one phrase she
Speaker 4: told me because she was trying to keep me alive.
Speaker 4: She said, it has to be you have to be
Speaker 4: this quick. It has to be one look in one word,
Speaker 4: and you have to know what these people are thinking.
Speaker 4: You have to know what they're about. She's saying, like,
Speaker 4: when I get into some a situation, I have to
Speaker 4: know immediately what these people about to keep myself alive.
Speaker 4: So she was very serious about that and learning for
Speaker 4: me to learn that technique. And once I got done
Speaker 4: with the training, I wasn't used to get From what
Speaker 4: I can remember, I wasn't really used a lot until
Speaker 4: I was about nineteen. Because of my physical appearance. I
Speaker 4: looked so much younger than I was. They needed my
Speaker 4: you know, kind of like my physical appearance to mature
Speaker 4: in a way for what they wanted me to do.
Speaker 4: And they wanted me to do a lot of beta
Speaker 4: work to start with, and a lot of corporate espionage.
Speaker 4: And that's to me, that's the most dangerous stuff, the
Speaker 4: corporate espionage. It was so dangerous, it was so scary
Speaker 4: the beta work they wanted me to. It's almost kind
Speaker 4: of like considered like a black Widow program. They want
Speaker 4: you to infiltrate someone's life. You're given a target, which
Speaker 4: we call a mark. You infiltrate that person's life, You monitor,
Speaker 4: you gather intelligence, and one of my altars actually has
Speaker 4: a photographic memory. I don't particularly Olivia doesn't have a
Speaker 4: photographic memory, but one of my altar does. So all
Speaker 4: I have to do is be around someone in that
Speaker 4: part of my mind is constantly recording whatever's going on.
Speaker 4: And once you're in a relationship with somebody or a
Speaker 4: fake relationship, you're able to gather that information quite quickly
Speaker 4: because they began to trust you and they just start
Speaker 4: speaking about whatever's going in their lives. And that's what
Speaker 4: we would do. We would cord the information and we
Speaker 4: were debriefed by hypnosis, so they would have to go
Speaker 4: deep in our mind to get that information that was
Speaker 4: kind of locked away from these missions. So that was
Speaker 4: the beta work that they wanted us to do. If
Speaker 4: there were other what we consider what I call outcomes,
Speaker 4: I don't want to go into too much debtail, but
Speaker 4: you can kind of guess what kind of stuff you
Speaker 4: would be an end to some of those relationships. Sometimes
Speaker 4: you would just leave the relationship like they told you
Speaker 4: to after you gathered the intelligence, or they would expect
Speaker 4: some other type of outcome, that's what they called it.
Speaker 4: So once I got done doing with that, I ended
Speaker 4: up doing that for a while and I got a
Speaker 4: promotion and because they said for a job well done.
Speaker 4: And I think I was around twenty nine, and I
Speaker 4: ended up going to Mars for a short time, about
Speaker 4: ten extra years. And when I was there, I was
Speaker 4: on the Mercreary Base. A McCreary base is located in
Speaker 4: the South Canal region of that planet. And the general
Speaker 4: that I worked under, his name was General Asher. I
Speaker 4: was specifically taken into the corporate sector, so I wasn't
Speaker 4: like in a big military mission. We were on the
Speaker 4: military base and I worked near a loading dock, but
Speaker 4: I wasn't taking part of those big military operations. I
Speaker 4: was the human resources. So any new recruits coming into
Speaker 4: the base, they would come see me in my office
Speaker 4: and I would use some of my abilities. I kind
Speaker 4: of consider it like a mild telepathy. I sometimes we
Speaker 4: call it energy reading things like that, but I would
Speaker 4: have them talk. I had like a battery of questions.
Speaker 4: I would ask them just to get them talking. Is
Speaker 4: how I read them. Just as soon as they're talking.
Speaker 4: It's almost like reading between the lines of everything they
Speaker 4: say in order to get get a proper assessment of
Speaker 4: who I think they are and what job I might
Speaker 4: think they might do well in. And I didn't really
Speaker 4: work with a lot of super soldiers. They were in
Speaker 4: special sector. I wasn't necessarily working for a special sector.
Speaker 4: I was just working for the basic you know, new
Speaker 4: recruits coming in. And back in the days, they back
Speaker 4: in the time that I was in mk Ultu and
Speaker 4: things like that, they were still utilizing like my lab
Speaker 4: like military production to get some of their recruits. And nowadays,
Speaker 4: like when I was still on the base, like in
Speaker 4: the early two thousands, they were getting voluntary recruits. So
Speaker 4: there were people coming straight out of the military telling
Speaker 4: you know, their family that they're going overseas or something,
Speaker 4: and they were going up to Mars for a small tour,
Speaker 4: and they were thinking they were going to be like
Speaker 4: starship troopers fighting aliens and things like that, and then
Speaker 4: when they got in my office, they found out they'd
Speaker 4: be working like, you know, regular jobs like we had
Speaker 4: an entertainment division. You know, there was mining, there was resources,
Speaker 4: water treatment, waste treatment, all that, and they would probably
Speaker 4: get a job doing that. So their dreams of being
Speaker 4: in some type of like movie did not come true
Speaker 4: on that base, you know, because anybody a super soldier
Speaker 4: would be going straight to special sector. If somebody did
Speaker 4: come in my office and I felt it using my
Speaker 4: abilities that they had some type of special ability themselves,
Speaker 4: they would definitely be referred out. I would have to
Speaker 4: send that recommendation up to General Asher so he could
Speaker 4: figure out, you know, what office they needed to be at.
Speaker 4: So I did that for a long time on Mars,
Speaker 4: and it was really lonely, like I don't remember. I know,
Speaker 4: I remember feeling not well the whole time that I
Speaker 4: was there, and there was a lot of isolation. I
Speaker 4: was enable to form connections with people, especially working for
Speaker 4: the corporate sector. Nobody wanted to be around me. I was,
Speaker 4: you know, it's almost like working for the man, So
Speaker 4: nobody wanted to interact with me, especially some of the
Speaker 4: other soldiers that just didn't have a good you know,
Speaker 4: what do you call it reputation. Also part of the
Speaker 4: job was to ensure that I made sure. I told
Speaker 4: the upper manager if there was anybody that came into
Speaker 4: my office that I thought would challenge the status quo,
Speaker 4: and they took that very seriously. You're not allowed to
Speaker 4: have your own opinion on anything. You have to follow
Speaker 4: exactly what they wanted you to, all the rules, everything.
Speaker 4: So I felt like I was kind of depressed. If
Speaker 4: I'm guessing what was wrong with me on Mars the
Speaker 4: whole time I was there is that I felt like
Speaker 4: I had depression, and we didn't have a word for depression,
Speaker 4: so I didn't know what was wrong with me. And
Speaker 4: also I was starting to have like kind of like
Speaker 4: bleed through memories of just another life, and I felt
Speaker 4: like something was wrong with me. On Mars, I knew
Speaker 4: something was wrong with me, and I couldn't figure out
Speaker 4: what it was. I was doing things like I wasn't
Speaker 4: doing the same job like I should have been like
Speaker 4: enable to, you know, do my job correctly. I had
Speaker 4: broken into the General's office and was looking through as files.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know what I was looking for, but
Speaker 4: I had no other ideas of what to do and
Speaker 4: how to solve this.
Speaker 2: Issue for myself.
Speaker 4: So I was everywhere looking and I end up getting
Speaker 4: demoded because I wasn't doing the same job anymore, and
Speaker 4: I ended up working, you know, the rest of the
Speaker 4: time there. Just I worked on a medical satellite station
Speaker 4: for a little bit that's near Saturn, and what they
Speaker 4: do on there, they're just doing augments and different type
Speaker 4: of surgeries. I was somebody that would come in the
Speaker 4: room before they completed a surgery or some type of
Speaker 4: medical training something, and I would just you know, almost
Speaker 4: like a medical social worker when I have them sign
Speaker 4: all the forms, because they take consent very seriously in
Speaker 4: those programs. There's people's signatures everywhere. I know that because
Speaker 4: I would have people sign things, especially when you leave,
Speaker 4: when you're retired, you sign a lot of forms. In
Speaker 4: one of the forms you sign you agree to be
Speaker 4: controlled and monitored for the rest of your life, no
Speaker 4: matter what.
Speaker 2: You know. There's people.
Speaker 4: I have my own signatures on that stuff, and I
Speaker 4: know other people have signatures on there. And I'm not
Speaker 4: saying that that it's right and that we had full
Speaker 4: ability to say that and give consent, because we didn't
Speaker 4: because we were almost like modern day slavery. You're not
Speaker 4: allowed to say anything back. But they say that those
Speaker 4: forms because of the way they're worded in terms of
Speaker 4: legal you know, legal language that they'll hold up in
Speaker 4: all courts, including galactic courts. That's what they say anyways,
Speaker 4: that those forms up there held up in everything in
Speaker 4: case anybody tried to take them at court. Well, look,
Speaker 4: you signed for this, you said we could do this.
Speaker 4: You said you even assigned to be terminated if you
Speaker 4: don't complete the task to their whatever they think is
Speaker 4: the best. You agreed to that you signed it saying Okay,
Speaker 4: I agreed to be terminated, and terminated doesn't mean losing
Speaker 4: a job, just you know, that's they mean something else
Speaker 4: when they say that. So the legal language is really
Speaker 4: important what they're using. So that's what I did up
Speaker 4: until I ended up leaving. In terms of retirement and
Speaker 4: retirement for us, we just from what I remember, it
Speaker 4: was a chemical retirement. And then they re aged. They
Speaker 4: read you, they age regress you, and they put you
Speaker 4: back in your crappy life. And that's what happened to me.
Speaker 4: I got age regressed to the time that they took
Speaker 4: me at and I went back to my crappy life.
Speaker 4: And that's where that kind of experience came from.
Speaker 1: Wow, there's so many questions that I could ask you,
Speaker 1: But I feel like we do a second part because
Speaker 1: a lot of it is just going to be like and.
Speaker 4: There's so much more. Yeah, there's so much more to
Speaker 4: go into. I do have a fun story though. I
Speaker 4: was going to add because I was like talking about
Speaker 4: it because it was so interesting. When I was on
Speaker 4: Myers and like I said, I had no friends. Everybody
Speaker 4: hated me, you know, nobody really wanted to be around me.
Speaker 4: I wasn't really that girl. And they were doing these
Speaker 4: exhibitions because, like I said, they have an entertainment division
Speaker 4: because there's nothing else to do. So people would pack it,
Speaker 4: you know, some of the civilians and even some of
Speaker 4: the soldiers and everybody. They would pack in the arenas
Speaker 4: you know, on the weekends or whatever, and they would
Speaker 4: be these exhibitions. It's almost like almost like modern Gladiator
Speaker 4: or UFC type stuff. So they had a lot of
Speaker 4: the girls, like you could. They would have us up
Speaker 4: like in dresses, cute little outfits, and they want you
Speaker 4: to sword fight to the death. And so I volunteered
Speaker 4: once because they said that if you volunteer, you know,
Speaker 4: I thought, I volunteered. People will have a different idea
Speaker 4: who they think I am. I might get a little
Speaker 4: bit of favor with people and people not treating like crap.
Speaker 4: So I ended up doing that quite a few times.
Speaker 4: And they give you a gift afterward, like a reward
Speaker 4: if you win, like either you and some of the
Speaker 4: other girls they are asking for like clothes and drewy,
Speaker 4: which means nothing means nothing on that planet. Nothing, no
Speaker 4: material stuff means anything there. So I asked for food.
Speaker 4: I wanted good food, and I asked there's something like
Speaker 4: a steak in a potato or something. That was my
Speaker 4: gift I wanted. And I remember I lost like three times,
Speaker 4: but then I won like two times. And I don't
Speaker 4: remember how when I lost, how I ended up alive
Speaker 4: and back in my bed the next day. I have
Speaker 4: no idea how that happened. I just remember having my
Speaker 4: throat slit from some sword and then I'd be okay
Speaker 4: the next day, and then my food wo'd be sitting
Speaker 4: next to me.
Speaker 2: So I did that.
Speaker 4: I really risk my life for a plate of food
Speaker 4: and it was like nothing. It was maybe I didn't
Speaker 4: really care that much because of my depression on Mars
Speaker 4: that I was just like, well if it happens. It happens,
Speaker 4: and you know, I went through life whatever. I thought
Speaker 4: that was interesting though, that they have like a girl's
Speaker 4: sword fighting to the death. You know, imagine, you know,
Speaker 4: you're watching that on the weekend. They're having people's sword
Speaker 4: fight to the death. Was really interesting, and there was
Speaker 4: so much other stuff going on, like on Mars. What
Speaker 4: I thought was interesting is that, you know, in personality profiling,
Speaker 4: the people that are at the highest levels for sociopaths
Speaker 4: and psychopaths, they're recruiting specifically people that are diagnosed as
Speaker 4: sociopaths because they feel like those people make the best leaders,
Speaker 4: because they can make the hard decisions, like if there's
Speaker 4: a war, they'll probably win the war based on how
Speaker 4: they behave. But that's also dangerous for a lot of
Speaker 4: us that are working around them. We're literally working amongst
Speaker 4: sociopaths and psychopaths every day, like in the office. You know,
Speaker 4: people that I worked with their sociopaths and psychopaths, and
Speaker 4: you just, you know, you're risking your life sometimes they
Speaker 4: sometimes they would try to do things and you know,
Speaker 4: and what I thought was interesting is you're not allowed
Speaker 4: to fight back. In a couple of different groups, like
Speaker 4: when I worked for a mercenary group called Krueger. They're
Speaker 4: allowed to harm you. Your coworkers that are males, allowed
Speaker 4: to harm you. You can't fight back, you can't complain,
Speaker 4: you can't question. Same thing on Mars, I wasn't really
Speaker 4: I didn't have that feeling that I could say anything.
Speaker 4: And you know, sometimes something would happen and you can't
Speaker 4: say anything about it. You just have to let it go.
Speaker 4: So definitely a weird imbalance there. And I think it's
Speaker 4: really interesting that people think they have an idea about women.
Speaker 4: But the things I've seen women do, both good and bad,
Speaker 4: in these programs would blow anybody's mind. It would totally
Speaker 4: blow blow away what people think that we are. And
Speaker 4: they don't have any idea. Nobody has any idea of
Speaker 4: what women are capable of in any way because of
Speaker 4: the things I've seen that people could do. It's really
Speaker 4: it's really crazy to see, you know, even for myself,
Speaker 4: you know, being who I am now and what I
Speaker 4: used to be able to do, and then now I'm
Speaker 4: here and I have to pretend all the time like
Speaker 4: I'm a.
Speaker 2: Weak little girl.
Speaker 4: You know, it's really weird to even have that life
Speaker 4: and try to pretend to be a normal life when
Speaker 4: you know you can do you were able to do things,
Speaker 4: you know, and it wasn't even a different life, you know.
Speaker 4: So it's really strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think that that's just.
Speaker 1: How this planet is set up though, to keep women
Speaker 1: in a particular, you know, atmosphere where they really can't
Speaker 1: do much of anything.
Speaker 4: I think all of the I think the same thing
Speaker 4: for men though, you know, they're probably put into a
Speaker 4: specific position where you know, we're all kind of locked
Speaker 4: into this box in terms of what people over us
Speaker 4: and how they want us to behave. And I know
Speaker 4: it's not real because I know I've seen people do things.
Speaker 4: You know. It's just I just I can't buy into it,
Speaker 4: just because I've been able to see it myself firsthand
Speaker 4: what people are capable of.
Speaker 1: I believe you, because, you know, even just to referencing
Speaker 1: some of my own past life experiences, I feel as
Speaker 1: though maybe this planet is just set up in a
Speaker 1: way that humans in general are extremely limited in their
Speaker 1: capacity for a reason, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I get it in a way, like imagine
Speaker 4: if I was able to harness the power I had
Speaker 4: when I was a gin, and if I could do
Speaker 4: that now, you know, I guess they have to kind
Speaker 4: of close.
Speaker 2: It off, like you can't have everything.
Speaker 4: You know, what kind of person would I be if
Speaker 4: I was able to harness that, you know, and it
Speaker 4: was I did want to say, like I thought it
Speaker 4: was interesting when I was speaking to Harlewin, she told
Speaker 4: me kind of about how, you know, because we think
Speaker 4: that the demonic entities they are able to just come physically,
Speaker 4: and you know, I don't see a lot of them
Speaker 4: coming physically ever, because it's very difficult to create that
Speaker 4: physical form. And also they don't like the reaction they
Speaker 4: get when they come in their physical form because they
Speaker 4: in their minds, these demonic entities think they're gods. They do.
Speaker 4: They say they're gods. I'm not saying I believe that
Speaker 4: they believe that they think they're gods because they've been
Speaker 4: worshiped as gods for thousands of years in ancient since
Speaker 4: ancient times, and that if they come here and if
Speaker 4: one of their followers calls them, you know, they call
Speaker 4: it a heart call. And then when somebody calls them,
Speaker 4: because you do have to say, you do have to
Speaker 4: let them in in order for them to evade your space.
Speaker 4: So when they try to come physically to a follower,
Speaker 4: and the follower doesn't have a good response because they're
Speaker 4: not looking like some angelic being. They're coming in their
Speaker 4: true forms, and that a person sees that and almost
Speaker 4: gets They get a disgusted look and scared and fear.
Speaker 4: That's not the reaction they want. They feel like they're gods,
Speaker 4: so they don't always come as physical. They like to
Speaker 4: travel as energy, and specifically we travel by the blood,
Speaker 4: so a lot of entities would travel by the bloodstream.
Speaker 2: That's why.
Speaker 4: And I always called myself red energy. That's how I
Speaker 4: saw myself, and I would travel by the blood and
Speaker 4: get inside the blood stream. So it's different from from
Speaker 4: the stuff I've seen. Is kind of different from what
Speaker 4: obviously we've seen in movies and things like that, where
Speaker 4: you know physical entities. These entities are just coming through physically.
Speaker 4: They're traveling less energy and through the blood stream sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, back to that whole idea about
Speaker 1: limited abilities. It's kind of like the Superman thing, don't
Speaker 1: you think where it's come to this planet. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden you have powers because there's a yellow sun,
Speaker 1: and then on you know, your own home planet, you're useless. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder, I.
Speaker 2: Phil I felt that.
Speaker 4: I felt that, Like I think maybe a lot of
Speaker 4: women we feel like that if you were in the
Speaker 4: programs because you had abilities, and now I'm here and
Speaker 4: I have to just be a normal person. It's just
Speaker 4: it's really conflicting. For me.
Speaker 2: It's like, really weird. You know. I still get amazed, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 4: I still get amazed when I, you know, recording myself
Speaker 4: doing the things that I'm doing, especially with spirit hosting.
Speaker 4: I'm doing astral travel, remote viewing, remote influencing. That's all
Speaker 4: difficult stuff that's not very easy stuff for the normal
Speaker 4: person to do. And to see myself doing it is
Speaker 4: like it always mind blows me every time I'm like
Speaker 4: I wake, you know, I come out of the trance
Speaker 4: and be like, I can't believe I just said that.
Speaker 4: You know, stuff that I'm saying for like hours on end,
Speaker 4: a constant flow of information. It's very interesting for me
Speaker 4: to see that and be able to reproduce it over
Speaker 4: and over the same process us.
Speaker 2: I totally get that.
Speaker 1: So how often are you continuing to do sessions and
Speaker 1: stuff to uncover what else is in there?
Speaker 4: I think I started I want to say twenty twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Maybe I started doing it in twenty twenty and so
Speaker 4: it's about five years now, and now I've kind of
Speaker 4: slowed down a little bit. I'll do it because now
Speaker 4: it's getting a little bit risky because I've started to
Speaker 4: use the ability I started about a year or two
Speaker 4: ago to break into, you know, secret documents and bases
Speaker 4: and other people's bases and things to try to get
Speaker 4: information for the world. It's risky and they've kind of
Speaker 4: caught onto that, especially with Project Oblivion coming out. They said,
Speaker 4: there's no more of this. You guys can't keep doing
Speaker 4: this stuff. So the last time I a couple of
Speaker 4: times I had a session, I had a counter remote
Speaker 4: viewing team from other agencies kind of infiltrate my session
Speaker 4: to see what I'm doing. It's like when you when
Speaker 4: I'm closing my eyes, I see it ionomically see a
Speaker 4: set of eyes. That means somebody's looking at me while
Speaker 4: I'm doing this. So now I'm starting to see that
Speaker 4: where they're kind of caught on that I'm kind of
Speaker 4: sneaking into places and I'm just I always say, like
Speaker 4: I'm just a girl, I'm not a professional.
Speaker 2: You know there.
Speaker 4: You know, there's people out there on YouTube word that
Speaker 4: are professional remote viewers and they're got coordinates and stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't do that. It's just a natural ability, So
Speaker 4: I don't follow that. It just comes to me, like
Speaker 4: I always say that, it comes in a woosh because
Speaker 4: it does. Whatever I'm connected to at the highest level
Speaker 4: of my being starts and guides me to where I
Speaker 4: need to go and has allowed me to do this.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not being stopped by anything except for
Speaker 4: these new groups are trying to and it's not working.
Speaker 4: But I got a feel them they're going to continue.
Speaker 4: So I've met a couple of I say met, but
Speaker 4: actually they're intruders. So I've met a couple of groups,
Speaker 4: and the last couple of sessions I had some that
Speaker 4: tried to I think one of them wanted to harm me,
Speaker 4: and so I kind of stepped back a little. I'm
Speaker 4: only doing it like every few months now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have heard similar things from other people, And
Speaker 1: I was wondering if during your hypnosis sessions, if you've
Speaker 1: ever hit anything like a government cap or anything like
Speaker 1: that where it was extremely difficult to get to a
Speaker 1: certain level of information.
Speaker 4: Yes, quite a few times to the base in Australia. Hi, yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: As soon as I got close to that base, I
Speaker 4: saw this huge eye huge. They have very serious monitoring
Speaker 4: with their remote viewers. They have a really a strong
Speaker 4: remote viewing remote viewing for their people. I felt like
Speaker 4: they already saw me coming before and I literally felt
Speaker 4: myself flying through the air trying to get to their base,
Speaker 4: you know. And once I got inside, is a lockdown
Speaker 4: in there, like it's locked down. I couldn't even get
Speaker 4: into the room. And with my spirit energy, I couldn't
Speaker 4: even get in the room. I saw these red lights
Speaker 4: or red numbers over the door, so I had to
Speaker 4: go fall through the floor and then come up in
Speaker 4: the middle. And when I got inside that side of
Speaker 4: the base, I wanted information. That's what I came for.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm risking my life to get this information,
Speaker 4: so I'm going to get it. So I used remote influencing.
Speaker 4: And I don't feel bad about this. I know some
Speaker 4: people get mad at me when I say I do
Speaker 4: this remote influencing. People need to remember, these people are
Speaker 4: kidnapping and abusing children for our whole lives. Do I
Speaker 4: feel bad about kind of forcing them to give me information. No,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't. So I found one person that
Speaker 4: was kind of like unfocused. I needed to do remote influence.
Speaker 4: I have to find somebody that's not totally focused. So
Speaker 4: there was a girl there and she was kind of
Speaker 4: off focused, thinking about her boyfriend and things like that.
Speaker 2: So I pushed.
Speaker 4: I just pushed, put my spirit hands on her shoulder
Speaker 4: and kind of like got inside of her. So I'm
Speaker 4: using her body almost like a possession. I'm using her.
Speaker 4: So I start making her type and she starts typing things.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get information about projects, and there was
Speaker 4: one that come up, like project Stranger. And so when
Speaker 4: I finally I'm in there, I'm only in there for
Speaker 4: a few seconds, it's not even very long, and maybe
Speaker 4: a minute at the most, and this big, huge message,
Speaker 4: you know, flashes on the screen of her computer and
Speaker 4: I said break screen.
Speaker 2: She flee.
Speaker 4: She kind of like freaked out, and she like pushed
Speaker 4: herself back up from the desk and like jumped up.
Speaker 4: And as soon as she jumped up, I was kind
Speaker 4: of like flown back out of her body. Like they
Speaker 4: immediately knew that I was there. Somehow, I don't know
Speaker 4: how that they could figure out she was being remote
Speaker 4: influenced maybe the information she was reaching. They said break screen,
Speaker 4: which means everything stop. So that was one time that
Speaker 4: you know, I kind of I mean, I felt like
Speaker 4: it was still successful because I was practicing, you know.
Speaker 4: But that's the kind of stuff I've been trying to do,
Speaker 4: and I've gotten quite a bit of information in terms
Speaker 4: of like documents and some of the legal language on documents.
Speaker 4: I'm able to find looking at my own I was
Speaker 4: able to get my own I'm I was able to
Speaker 4: get my own service number, a lot of information about
Speaker 4: my service record, and you know, things like that. So
Speaker 4: it's really interesting. There's a lot of information out there.
Speaker 4: It's just you know, nobody's looking for I'm like the
Speaker 4: only person trying to do this that is like known.
Speaker 4: You know, there's I mean, obviously there's other secret groups
Speaker 4: trying this, but.
Speaker 1: I think they have some kind of energetic frequency monitoring
Speaker 1: system where they can tell who it is at any time.
Speaker 1: You know, you would think that, yeah, people like I
Speaker 1: guess a person with just an average way of thinking
Speaker 1: would not be going as far as to think that way.
Speaker 1: They would think, Okay, I'm an invisible spirit, so I
Speaker 1: can't be detected, you know. But I don't think that
Speaker 1: people get that you as an individual, you have this
Speaker 1: energetic footprint that follows you through all your past lives.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, how they're able.
Speaker 4: To Yeah, that's a good point. And I did see
Speaker 4: one time where I broke into my own handler's house.
Speaker 4: Because there's the handler divisions. They call it the after
Speaker 4: cre program. Everybody who is in MK ultra you signed
Speaker 4: forms to be monitored by the aftercare program and they
Speaker 4: hide behind insurance companies at their front. I broke it
Speaker 4: to my own handler's house using you know, remote viewing.
Speaker 4: I use astral travel by location, you know, and spirit
Speaker 4: hosting to do all this antilepathy I was using that day.
Speaker 4: I brought everything I could do because I'm like, this
Speaker 4: was serious. I need to meet this handler of mine.
Speaker 4: And he was a total dick. And so I broke
Speaker 4: into his house. And I want people to know I
Speaker 4: didn't break into it physically. I used my spirit body,
Speaker 4: just so they know I didn't break into it physically.
Speaker 4: I broke in using my spirit body. So I found
Speaker 4: him and he lived out I think in Rhode Island
Speaker 4: something like that. And so I was in his house
Speaker 4: and he had his office in his house, and these handlers,
Speaker 4: they're not scary. I want people to think, don't be
Speaker 4: afraid of these people. These are a bunch of nerds
Speaker 4: sitting at a desk behind a chair. They use a
Speaker 4: computer in a headset to tortures. These are not scary people.
Speaker 4: There's nothing to be afraid of. And so he was
Speaker 4: there and I came up behind him, and I like,
Speaker 4: just like the girl I put, I try to put
Speaker 4: my hands on his shoulder, just because I wanted to know.
Speaker 4: And this dude, he has abilities. He knew, he knew,
Speaker 4: he could feel me, he knew what I was doing.
Speaker 4: So he starts typing on his computer because he wanted
Speaker 4: to see what I was typing. And immediately he said
Speaker 4: that asset is combative and that I was presenting with
Speaker 4: ill intentions, and that he wrote that measures would need
Speaker 4: to be taken and that it would be spleen and tremors.
Speaker 4: That was the button he was going to push, you know,
Speaker 4: and the recommendation he had to you know, because you know,
Speaker 4: they target our health everything, so they're using all their machinery,
Speaker 4: every technology they have, and they said that's what it
Speaker 4: was going to happen. To me for trying this, And
Speaker 4: I thought, what I thought was interesting is that this
Speaker 4: was early on in my remote viewing sessions that I
Speaker 4: saw a ghost, you know, in the back of his
Speaker 4: room and it was his grandmother and she could see me.
Speaker 4: Which I thought that was interesting is that I was
Speaker 4: using the ghost to mention I didn't even know I
Speaker 4: could do that. I was me and her could see
Speaker 4: each other, Me and those he couldn't see either one
Speaker 4: of us, but we could see each other. And I
Speaker 4: was presenting as a remote viewer. So people, if you
Speaker 4: ever see a shadow person, sometimes those are remote viewers.
Speaker 4: Those aren't always spirits and ghosts. Sometimes those are remote viewers.
Speaker 4: That's really interesting that I was presenting as like a
Speaker 4: shadow person and she saw me and he knew. This
Speaker 4: guy knew and we kind of went back and forth
Speaker 4: arguing kind of thing for a while, you know, and
Speaker 4: he just said, you know, pretty much, get out, stop
Speaker 4: bothering me, loser, kind of like just you know, went
Speaker 4: off on me kind of thing.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, and I do.
Speaker 4: That a lot. I get that a lot. When we
Speaker 4: start getting into where we're talking to like the handler division.
Speaker 4: They're very abusive in their language because they don't want
Speaker 4: you to know who they are. They can't believe. They said,
Speaker 4: how did you figure this out? How did you figure
Speaker 4: it out? I'll just say I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just figured it out. So it's surprising to a
Speaker 4: lot of them when I'm able to do this kind
Speaker 4: of thing. I'm like, you're the people the one that
Speaker 4: trained me, so maybe should be asking yourselves why I'm able.
Speaker 1: To do this. Yeah. Well, okay, so we'll have to
Speaker 1: do this again because there's more things that I could
Speaker 1: ask you about, you know, Project Traveler and the Spirit hosting. Oh,
Speaker 1: there's tons all that stuff. So we'll have to do
Speaker 1: several there's yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Well thanks for being on Bonless Authenticity Podcast. If you want,
Speaker 1: you can tell everyone where you can find your books
Speaker 1: and where they can find you if they want to
Speaker 1: talk to you, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I have two self published books around Amazon. The
Speaker 4: first one is called gray Mouse Sex Space and Mind Control,
Speaker 4: and the second book is called gray Mouse Purgatory, which
Speaker 4: that one's my favorite. I have two blogs where I
Speaker 4: put all my articles about my experiences on you know, weekly.
Speaker 4: I have one on substack and one on medium. I'm
Speaker 4: on TikTok, Twitter, x, Facebook, Instagram, you know all the
Speaker 4: different spaces. You can message me there or you can
Speaker 4: reach me by email. I put on my emails on
Speaker 4: my socials too, in case you have a direct question.
Speaker 2: All right, great, Olivia, thanks, thank you so much.
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