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<v Speaker 1>It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>ignition with the aw fan Hub podcast team. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Kelson and I want to start off by announcing an

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<v Speaker 1>interview that we're doing with the All Elait Wrestling staff

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<v Speaker 1>psychiatrist doctor David Reese, MD. That'll be taking place right

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<v Speaker 1>here on our discord at three pm Eastern time on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>December two. Of inviting everybody to come in and just

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<v Speaker 1>listening as we talk to doctor Reese live. We will

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<v Speaker 1>be recording it so that if you can't comme at

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<v Speaker 1>three pm Eastern on Thursday, hey, you'll still be able

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy the conversation. I'm not doing the interview. Shane

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<v Speaker 1>is doing the interview. So Shane, let us know what

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<v Speaker 1>can we expect from your interview with doctor Reese.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first off, Kelson, I'll be unveiling to the world

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<v Speaker 2>the the the art of time travel because uh, December

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<v Speaker 2>second was yesterday, but I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll be pulling some uh some top topics of

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<v Speaker 2>conversation from the community, and obviously we're going to keep

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<v Speaker 2>it light and keep it fresh. I kind of want

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<v Speaker 2>to dig into like the inner workings of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the mochanisms of Mental Health CTE and the aw locker room.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's great to be given the privilege as a

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<v Speaker 2>member of this community to lead that project and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be able to talk to this guy, and I assure

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<v Speaker 2>you it'll be a good listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I have. I can't wait. Obviously, I can't wait. It's

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<v Speaker 1>already happened according to my calendar. Ums. Hey, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, that's not what I look like. Well some

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<v Speaker 1>of you don't know what I look like. Anyway, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get started with the show. We've got the second annual

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. Well it's the first annual twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the twenty twenty three ones last year. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having an aneurysm right as we speak. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been hitting the little hard there.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, what is in this water that I'm drinking? Hintint. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing the second annual aw Fan Hubb Awards. We

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<v Speaker 1>did it last year and it was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>What we're doing right now is we are coming up

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<v Speaker 1>with nominations. We have seven categories and everybody is invited

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<v Speaker 1>to go on our discord or on our Subreddit or

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<v Speaker 1>on Blue Sky, and I will put the links to

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<v Speaker 1>each in the description of this podcast, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>make up to three nominations in each of the categories. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as it turns out, not any need that I remember here,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you have, I apologize. I haven't seen any

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<v Speaker 1>nominations from anybody here. So what we're gonna do is,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you pick a category, any of the

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<v Speaker 1>seven categories. You could pick just one and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it and make your argument to try to sway the

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<v Speaker 1>community members to vote your way. So let's go. Who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to go first? Pick a category and then make

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<v Speaker 1>your argument for a particular wrestler in that category.

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<v Speaker 2>You want me to go for the low hanging Fruit,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll go Heal the Year. We'll go for Heal the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's obvious who the Heel of the Year is. For

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<v Speaker 2>the men, I'd probably go with them JF. For the women,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd go with Mariah May. No one's really painted a

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<v Speaker 2>more convincing portrait as who is doing all the bs

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<v Speaker 2>and aw th those two. So I can't imagine that

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<v Speaker 2>anyone here would or would disagree with that statement.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that anybody's even close, Shane.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, Mariah May is convincing. Although I know

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<v Speaker 2>this is a hot topic, definitely convincing argument for the females.

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<v Speaker 2>MJF has it. No one has ripped that diamond diamond

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<v Speaker 2>U dynamite ring off of him yet, so I think

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<v Speaker 2>I tell he is completely humbled. He's going to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to be a thorn in everybody's side. No one's really

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<v Speaker 2>risen up to the occasion to dethron him from that place.

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<v Speaker 1>So about that, because weventually got the diamond diamond ring?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so what is it? Diamond think? Do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Does anybody think that MJF is gonna lose the dynamite

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<v Speaker 1>diamond ring tomorrow night? It's kind of like synonymous with

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<v Speaker 1>MJF at this point, don't you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, yeah, I think it's time for five years

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<v Speaker 2>in a row. I think he's losing it on your six.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to hyper drive his bullshit and

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're gonna see a lot of great exposition

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<v Speaker 2>for a potential you know, mega heel turned to Adam Cole.

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<v Speaker 2>I would put it on coal, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be the case either. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>see someone out of left field, grab it, give it,

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<v Speaker 2>put it on j White. If you're not gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>the World Championship on him, give it to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir Petico or bust Shane.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, Luther, Luther's coming back. Luther announced again

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<v Speaker 2>we don't but.

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<v Speaker 1>He had transplanted because Tony Storm had no clue and

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<v Speaker 1>when she announced it he had a transplant. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's k paper if he actually had one.

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<v Speaker 3>As to your I agree with you as MJF being

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<v Speaker 3>the heel of the year, but I would put Adam

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<v Speaker 3>Page getting up there because he hasn't exactly been mister

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<v Speaker 3>nice guy this year, and uh, he's probably for me,

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<v Speaker 3>he's probably the second best when it comes to a

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<v Speaker 3>heel right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I still think he has that goodness in

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<v Speaker 2>him somewhere. I think that's the whole thing. He's doing

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<v Speaker 2>this to per j a e w of the the

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<v Speaker 2>evil and anyone that's getting in the way of it

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<v Speaker 2>is going to get crushed with his fist of angry emo.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Funny you mentioned that, shame because I think that that

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<v Speaker 5>that heartness, that heart you mentioned, is going to play

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<v Speaker 5>a big part in these storylines. Going forward. So but

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<v Speaker 5>that's a tangent for now.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anybody else think that, you know, for lack of

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<v Speaker 1>better words, drunk onco Jesse is the heuel of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh a lot of morset wept, no about that, No, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not drunk Uncle Jesse. Dude, we haven't seen him

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<v Speaker 2>consume alcohol on screen since last sense he was chugging

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<v Speaker 2>beers in front of ambulances last year. No, dude, I.

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<v Speaker 1>He's built up quite a reserve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, of alcohol that in his empty house.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is spleed or it his liver. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he's that thing saturated by now, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>You think most likely?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like pumping up a Nike shoe. Nope, speaking

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<v Speaker 2>about aw and heals, but it's like pumping up a

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<v Speaker 2>Nike shoe, you know, punch him in the liver. He's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be drunk for three days.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I'm gonna break in and I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>my most improved wrestler of the year, And honestly, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, but I don't think anybody is

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<v Speaker 1>more improved than Harley Cameron. I mean, just because she's

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<v Speaker 1>losing doesn't mean that she hasn't improved at her character

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<v Speaker 1>work is something to really look forward to.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm I'm giving it to Jack Perry. He's came a

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<v Speaker 6>long way from Jungle Boy and he had to look.

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<v Speaker 6>I love the skateegoat band bust whatever it is, and

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<v Speaker 6>he's came a long way. New Japan really helped him.

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<v Speaker 3>See, I'm going with Danny k on that, because she

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<v Speaker 3>has made super strides this year. She went from being

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<v Speaker 3>a barely mid carter to getting some shots. Her trip

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<v Speaker 3>to stardom really really helped her.

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<v Speaker 1>And they just did. They just announce a match for

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<v Speaker 1>Anna Jay tomorrow night on Dynamite against Emmy Soccer, which

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<v Speaker 1>is always I love seeing Emmy.

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<v Speaker 2>Emmy Soccer is back.

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<v Speaker 1>She is second match.

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<v Speaker 3>You have that. You have that list of as energy

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<v Speaker 3>versus Penelope forod on your tomorrow on your Dynamite cord.

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<v Speaker 4>I posted that from a w so Penelop before.

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<v Speaker 1>But Emmy Soccer is back tomorrow night. I just can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember who she's wrestling me. There you go, well, even better,

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<v Speaker 1>we want Mina. We're getting Mina.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody wants.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody wants Mina.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I gotta feel bad for Penelope that they have

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<v Speaker 3>Penelope tomorrow night, because she goes from a loss to

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<v Speaker 3>Britt Baker to facing off another one that they're pushing

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<v Speaker 3>kind of hard with Anna Jay.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think we're gonna see some more out

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<v Speaker 5>of that. I think she's losing for a reason, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think it has something to do with somebody who's

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<v Speaker 5>coming back soon.

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<v Speaker 2>You think's coming back soon now that.

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<v Speaker 1>Honor, I think there may be two people coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah who So listen because I when I first saw

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<v Speaker 1>this match, now that I remember that it is Anna

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<v Speaker 1>Jay and Penelope Ford and not Amy Sacra. When I

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<v Speaker 1>first saw this match, again, my aneurysm is kicking in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first saw this match, the first thing that

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<v Speaker 1>went through in my mind was, of course Ta Mellow

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<v Speaker 1>coming back, which we haven't seen yet, which is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they're waiting for. But who was

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<v Speaker 1>Penelope Ford's most prominent partner, the money monny, Yeah, the Bunny.

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<v Speaker 1>Would it be something if the Bunny came back tomorrow night?

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<v Speaker 1>She ain't and we set up something like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think she is, but it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Not coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>He left, she didn't renew her contract. She's been doing

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<v Speaker 2>any work.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll go out on a limb. I think I think

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to see and I'll before siding with Julia

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<v Speaker 5>Hart And I think once sky Blue comes back, it's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be the House of Hearts. They're gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>a badass ladies heel faction, probably the first, the first one,

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<v Speaker 5>first one since the Radicals. I think that was the

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<v Speaker 5>last heel faction for the women.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, Well Blue is not coming back till

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<v Speaker 3>next summer. Yeah, there's there's just no way she'll be

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<v Speaker 3>back before then.

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<v Speaker 5>Julius, Julia is better when she has a minion and

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<v Speaker 5>a piece available. She's got the look, She's good enough

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<v Speaker 5>in the ring. I think that rub dor do her well,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think that's why she's losing. Julie's gonna help

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<v Speaker 5>her find her way.

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<v Speaker 1>Barry. I had come up with a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a of a scenario where Julia and Jamie Hayter actually

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<v Speaker 1>team up and that this has all been a ploy

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<v Speaker 1>on both of their parts. If you watched the last

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<v Speaker 1>match that Jamie Hayter Matt had, which was against and

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<v Speaker 1>the aneurysm is coming in again, who would who did

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<v Speaker 1>she wrestle against?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I name that go ahead, Yeah, red Dead Redemption too,

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<v Speaker 2>don't sue rock Star.

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<v Speaker 1>Point is is that if you watch that match between

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<v Speaker 1>Hater and Amanada, Hater was very heelish in that match.

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<v Speaker 1>She was very violent. I wouldn't say heelish, but she

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<v Speaker 1>was more violent than she had been. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>brutal match. That was a really hard hit Aramananda likes

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<v Speaker 1>to work stiff.

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<v Speaker 5>When she works stiff, she's good. She can't that's she

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't do as good in the ring and Jamie works.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't there what Jamie was all about when she

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<v Speaker 3>was before she got hurt with she I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not like she's changing who she is. She just seems

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because she's not.

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<v Speaker 3>She's not looked great in the ring yet and they

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<v Speaker 5>Something that Yeah, I think you up a good point

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<v Speaker 5>there too. And this was something I want to take

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<v Speaker 5>but there's a strain that she's carrying and I think

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<v Speaker 5>that's because she's about ten pounds heavier. You can see

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<v Speaker 5>the muscle, you can see just the strength in her

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<v Speaker 5>movement she didn't have before. And to your point, sudden

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<v Speaker 5>part of Jamie's allure was like she had that stat

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<v Speaker 5>the shit out of somebody, beat the crap out of somebody. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>But since she's come back, she's a lot leaner, and

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<v Speaker 5>there's something missing from that. And I don't see the

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<v Speaker 5>because athletes get used to their weight, they get used

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<v Speaker 5>to how they move with that weight and that physicality,

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we have we have talked about the leanness as

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<v Speaker 1>you put it, of Jamie Hayter before. Add to that point. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear from Jamie Hayter. I would be interested to

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<v Speaker 1>see if her demeanor or even her outfit changes a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit after last week. I just thought last week

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit better as far as bringing back

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<v Speaker 1>the old hater. Also, I know you had something to

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks. No, I was going to say, is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we've talked about this in the past. When somebody comes back,

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<v Speaker 3>especially recently, it seems like they're bringing them back when

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're they're they're able to go, but not necessarily ready.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of all the returns that we've had in ae W,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the only one that I can think of

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<v Speaker 3>that came back where they left off was when stat

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<v Speaker 3>Lerner came back and beat Jay Cargill and didn't really

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<v Speaker 3>show any missing and she came back from a knee

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<v Speaker 3>injury that could have been really bad. But like Jamie,

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<v Speaker 3>she came back and she's not exactly going forward force Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you could you could say that when she

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of that I think is is would

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<v Speaker 3>be something that the doctor's interview would maybe be able

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<v Speaker 3>to help answer some of those questions. If that's actually

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<v Speaker 3>the case or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one of the things I will say is that

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned this way back when it happened when Serena

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<v Speaker 1>Deeb came back from her lengthy time off, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us mentioned there's no such thing as ring ross

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<v Speaker 1>with Serena Deeb. She came back and she looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a house of buyer, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't forgot she came back from that too bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she doesn't have any ring ross. She's one one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best women's wrestlers, but she can't cut a

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<v Speaker 2>promo to save her life. She's a she's a charisma.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a charismavor attax.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Serena, you know, like the problems she cut. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe good. Who was in the ring with her? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it Cody Rhodes when she talked about how w W

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<v Speaker 1>made her put in breast in plants. She got rid

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<v Speaker 1>of at A soon as she left squad. Honestly, that's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing that you know, we keep talking talking about

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<v Speaker 1>doctor David Reese. Are women do they feel pressured and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, mentally anguished about their appearance compared to some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other wrestlers who have had work done. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that to me is an interesting, interesting, uh topic.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he would want to talk about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it could be something like because there's also we

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<v Speaker 1>also have guys like Adam Cole. People are constantly saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's too skinny or not as much of a muscle

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<v Speaker 1>mass or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's move go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>You definitely couldn't you know, tell that by how often

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<v Speaker 2>he's injured accidentally?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, Does anybody else have a nomination that they

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<v Speaker 1>want to share for one of the seven?

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<v Speaker 3>I did, go ahead?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I wanted to nominate Danny Garcia for most Improved

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<v Speaker 5>of the Year. I thought the Continental Classic set him

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<v Speaker 5>up last year really really nicely for a nice baby

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<v Speaker 5>face push, and it was slow, and you could see

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<v Speaker 5>that creative wasn't entirely certain where they wanted to go

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<v Speaker 5>with him from a storyline or a longer term pewed,

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<v Speaker 5>But they didn't give up on him like they've done

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<v Speaker 5>with a lot of talent in the past, and so

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<v Speaker 5>he'd get in a couple of short term programs and

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<v Speaker 5>the fans just kept getting behind him and get behind

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<v Speaker 5>him and getting behind him, and I think the last

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<v Speaker 5>three months, especially you know, starting over the summer with

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<v Speaker 5>the stuff that I'm JF and all out I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 5>all in really really cemented him as a top, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>upcoming star in that mid card upper mid card play.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody's ready for him to take that leap. He got

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<v Speaker 5>his first belt. We'll see how he does through the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of this year.

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<v Speaker 4>But but really, really.

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<v Speaker 5>Just I thought his his rise and improvement both on

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<v Speaker 5>the mic and in the ring has been great. A

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<v Speaker 5>little more to go on the mic, but but he's

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<v Speaker 5>starting to look the part of what they need him

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<v Speaker 5>to be if they're going to invest in him for

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<v Speaker 5>a few years going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Barry, I'm going and I'm glad that go ahead, man,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm glad he won that. Uh not one, but he

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<v Speaker 7>he did a draw with o'card.

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<v Speaker 6>That's going to jump him farther than I think people recognize.

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<v Speaker 6>Going toe to toe with Ocado, one of the best

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<v Speaker 6>in the business is really going to help him. So

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<v Speaker 6>I'm looking forward to big things with him in that

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<v Speaker 6>T and T title and seeing who he fused with.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a he's a go getter and he's going to

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<v Speaker 6>be far, but he yet he's probably it's still charisma,

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<v Speaker 6>but he'll get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, Barry, I wanted to ask you ques when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to down and his you know, a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of push as I guess is what you were alluding to.

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<v Speaker 1>After the C two last year, do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>they had how much of the contract situation?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think I can do with that?

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<v Speaker 5>From what I understand, if I'm remembering right, that did

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<v Speaker 5>impact his match with MJF on who went over on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Initially they were hesitant to put him over MJF if

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<v Speaker 5>they weren't certain he was coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>But earlier in the year is really what I.

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<v Speaker 5>Was talking about. I thought what they did with him

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<v Speaker 5>leading into all In with that short term feud with

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<v Speaker 5>with with MGF and stuff, and since then has been

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<v Speaker 5>really really good. But it's the earlier part of the year,

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<v Speaker 5>coming out of the C two, you could tell they

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<v Speaker 5>just they wanted to get behind him, but they couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>figure out really where to slot him in. And so

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<v Speaker 5>if there was ever a group of baby faces, he'd

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<v Speaker 5>be there and they try to get some things and

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<v Speaker 5>things going. But I felt like since at about all In,

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<v Speaker 5>they really kind of started to figure out where he

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<v Speaker 5>needs to be and with just a little more time

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<v Speaker 5>I'm on the mic a little more honing of his

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<v Speaker 5>character and what a story is going to be. I

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<v Speaker 5>think this year is going to be really really good

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<v Speaker 5>for him next year in twenty twenty five, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>excited to see him grows performer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well yeah, Garcia to me, Garcia can be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the pillars, I guess is the best way of

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<v Speaker 1>putting it, you know, accepted pillar, I guess in aw

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask a specific question because this has

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<v Speaker 1>been really interesting based on the nominations that we've already

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<v Speaker 1>gotten in the community, and there's been hundreds Faction of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year, A lot of people are picking a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of the BCC and the Death Writers this Faction of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year. I mean, I understand it, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, I don't really get it, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that there are other actions that are more suited to

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<v Speaker 1>that recognition. Does anybody else have a different faction that

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<v Speaker 1>you think supersede the BCC death Writers calls?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you guys want to turn you want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about impact? Though I thought I figured Sulton would have

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<v Speaker 2>something to say about this. So I was going to wait, Sulton,

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<v Speaker 2>if you got it go ahead, Well, I just.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you. If you're going for if you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to base it on impact that they're having to

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<v Speaker 3>ae W, it's got to be BCC Death Writers because

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<v Speaker 3>they're the only faction that's done something. For the last

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<v Speaker 3>five months. There's not really been a faction that's actually

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<v Speaker 3>done anything to warrant that. I mean, BC, I love

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<v Speaker 3>House of Black, but they really haven't done much of

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<v Speaker 3>as a faction. The only one I can think of

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<v Speaker 3>that that might have been in that grouping for doing

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<v Speaker 3>something for that size, Don Callous, which is again something

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<v Speaker 3>that's got way too many ways they're going at one

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<v Speaker 3>time instead of concentrating and doing something specific, they're just

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<v Speaker 3>all over the place, would have been, uh, Christian Cage

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<v Speaker 3>and his group, but again there's not a whole lot

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<v Speaker 3>to them.

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<v Speaker 2>You could certainly put you could certainly put the elite

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<v Speaker 2>in that conversation as well, in terms of impact and

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<v Speaker 2>character development, story development and story and if you really

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<v Speaker 2>want to consider the full spectrum of impact, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the top light has been if a pretty decent set

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<v Speaker 2>of guys performing as an enhancement to ealent not to

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<v Speaker 2>mention the character development the past two months has been

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<v Speaker 2>steadily inclining.

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<v Speaker 3>But see I pushed that. I'd put that push because

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<v Speaker 3>of what the Death Riders has been doing, because otherwise

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<v Speaker 3>doing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody has mentioned one faction that has been Wait.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, I got a dark Horse, and if it's who

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<v Speaker 5>you're gonna say, Helston, these are my guys and that's

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<v Speaker 5>bull of of Gold?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that who you're going with?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these guys, these are This is a group that

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<v Speaker 1>I personally don't really think works very well. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's why nobody has mentioned them. But do you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to tell you who? I think the conglomeration nobody

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<v Speaker 1>is mentioned. Ye, word of the day is overrated.

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<v Speaker 5>This conglomeration is like the B Team All Stars. That's

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<v Speaker 5>kind of how I they're not bad guys, but you're

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<v Speaker 5>not going to run a main event program with them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's space Jam at the first half of

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<v Speaker 2>the first movie without Michael Jordan's.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean another another dark order. Another faction that nobody

424
00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:00.359
<v Speaker 1>is mentioned. And I know these are I particularly I

425
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:02.400
<v Speaker 1>know this is your favorite faction of all time? Is

426
00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:14.799
<v Speaker 1>the Learning Tree? Nope? Text is that you can't you

427
00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:15.559
<v Speaker 1>can't get away.

428
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:18.599
<v Speaker 6>I just think Don Kallas family needs to be mentioned,

429
00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:22.759
<v Speaker 6>and how much nuclear heat they had, uh, their investment

430
00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.200
<v Speaker 6>with Kyle Fletcher, who who I think needs a nod

431
00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:28.480
<v Speaker 6>at least a little bit of honorable mentioned for most

432
00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:32.680
<v Speaker 6>improved because his look went from bleached, bleached out to

433
00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:37.519
<v Speaker 6>honed and skilled and looking uh like a badass. So

434
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.640
<v Speaker 6>I think he deserves something and him coming in and

435
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.000
<v Speaker 6>that little feud with will Osprey is still going on

436
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:47.000
<v Speaker 6>and they're battling. They had some rough patches with Hobbs

437
00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:49.079
<v Speaker 6>missing and everybody else missing, and Samuy was in there

438
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:53.039
<v Speaker 6>for a while. But but that group is still formidable,

439
00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:55.359
<v Speaker 6>and they they few with everybody. It's not long group

440
00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:57.519
<v Speaker 6>at a time, they few with everybody. Nobody likes a

441
00:24:57.559 --> 00:24:59.039
<v Speaker 6>Don callous family right.

442
00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Well to that point is, uh, how do does anybody

443
00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:07.400
<v Speaker 1>have any opinions? And maybe Kyle Fletcher is the most.

444
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:12.359
<v Speaker 5>Improved of the year, a case for it, absolutely think that.

445
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the way he was booked and he was

446
00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:23.079
<v Speaker 1>overshadowed by will Osprey and let's be honest here, Ossie

447
00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Open just never got over what.

448
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in America, it's like the dude, It's like the

449
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:31.279
<v Speaker 2>dude starts with dating sky Blue and he's immediately the

450
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:31.839
<v Speaker 2>top guy in.

451
00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:39.519
<v Speaker 3>A w UP with that for the most for the

452
00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:41.680
<v Speaker 3>most part of the time they've been here, his partner

453
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:44.319
<v Speaker 3>has been hurt. So, you know, the Open didn't really

454
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:45.279
<v Speaker 3>get a chance to.

455
00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Be a tough tag team at about six months and

456
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:51.079
<v Speaker 1>they just, I mean.

457
00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:52.759
<v Speaker 3>Well, we can't really say.

458
00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:56.880
<v Speaker 1>What you mean.

459
00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:58.960
<v Speaker 3>The team is the best.

460
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.200
<v Speaker 1>They're phenomenal team, don't get me wrong, but the reception

461
00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:07.079
<v Speaker 1>by a w fans was not what I was expecting.

462
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:12.799
<v Speaker 5>I remember watching those matches thinking, man, also opens a

463
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:16.039
<v Speaker 5>great tag team, but this Kyle Fletcher guy is gonna

464
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:18.240
<v Speaker 5>be a gonna be a rock star. Like every time

465
00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:20.359
<v Speaker 5>they were out there, I just kept thinking, man, this kid.

466
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:23.160
<v Speaker 5>When they split these guys up, eventually, this kid's gonna

467
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:27.279
<v Speaker 5>be huge. And then Mark Davis got hurt, and I

468
00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:30.480
<v Speaker 5>remember thinking the first time I saw Fletcher wrestle on

469
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:32.119
<v Speaker 5>his own, and I can't remember who it was, but

470
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:34.519
<v Speaker 5>I said, he's never gonna wrestle with Mark Davis again.

471
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:38.000
<v Speaker 5>It just I just need to see one match by himself,

472
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 5>and I knew, I knew that's it. This kid's gonna

473
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:41.599
<v Speaker 5>be huge.

474
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I'm gonna say something and I'm gonna

475
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>probably get hate for it, but Kyle Fletcher definitely has

476
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:54.039
<v Speaker 1>the look for look to be successful. Mark Davis looks

477
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>like Kyle Fletcher's Kyle Fletcher's great uncle or something.

478
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, Mark Davis like ftr's third member.

479
00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:06.319
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you.

480
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Will get me wrong, but when it comes to wrestling,

481
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Mark Davis is phenomenal. When it comes to marketability, Kyle

482
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Fletcher more marketable than Mark Davis. Yes, based on the look.

483
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 1>And I'm trying not to be disrespectful at all, because,

484
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>like I said, Mark Davis is phenomenal, but they just

485
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:29.759
<v Speaker 1>don't look right together.

486
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:34.559
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Davis coming out with baggy sweats and stuff like it,

487
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.039
<v Speaker 5>just it's not helping him. Man, I'm not buying him

488
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 5>as a serious competitor out there when he comes out

489
00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:40.480
<v Speaker 5>dressed like a bag of bond.

490
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:40.680
<v Speaker 8>You know.

491
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, what I'm saying is you presented himself as kind

492
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:50.599
<v Speaker 1>of like the older mentor instead of the tag team partner.

493
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.400
<v Speaker 2>There they were tagging together and he was like six

494
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>or seven years older than him. Anyways, I mean Kyle

495
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Fletcher's inn mid to early twenties kind of Fletcher's in

496
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:06.279
<v Speaker 2>his mid to early thirties. No, the other way around,

497
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:06.839
<v Speaker 2>all the way around.

498
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm having today moment, Yeahlson moment.

499
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 4>Wait did you say Mark Davis?

500
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I just don't know. It's all about presentation.

501
00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Will Osprey and Kyle Fletcher look like tag team Parker,

502
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:30.319
<v Speaker 1>They really do. Mark Davis and Kyle Fletcher just don't

503
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:34.400
<v Speaker 1>if if they were to get the you know, the

504
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 1>United Empire back together, then that could work. But only

505
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>if they do that, because Mark Davis is kind of

506
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.039
<v Speaker 1>on an island right now. He doesn't deserve it, but

507
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>he needs somebody to work with, can't you know, Shane,

508
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you made a joke about FTR, but I see it.

509
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:54.799
<v Speaker 1>He's perfect for FDR.

510
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

511
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 3>I just wonder how long it's gonna before Callous and

512
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:06.599
<v Speaker 3>Takesha turned on on Fletcher because there's gonna be jealous.

513
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 3>I just Seekesha getting pissed about it.

514
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Because you remember earlier. Yeah, but remember earlier in the year,

515
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>late last year that seed was sown. I mean, Fletcher

516
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>was really ticking off Callous I mean as well, Yeah,

517
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:25.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean flapped around and then it just ended and

518
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>now Fletcher breakers like the Golden child.

519
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.640
<v Speaker 3>For now, we need to see this painting again so

520
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:34.839
<v Speaker 3>we can see where he's actually at.

521
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we need to see the painting.

522
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:41.759
<v Speaker 3>You get to Kesh on one side, and you have

523
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:43.599
<v Speaker 3>the other on the other side. You have Fletcher and

524
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.119
<v Speaker 3>you have Callous standing over him with his hands over

525
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:57.000
<v Speaker 3>their heads like nothing collision between.

526
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:00.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, what do you do to set up that

527
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.680
<v Speaker 5>eventual feud? In my view, the no brainer is one

528
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:05.799
<v Speaker 5>of their silly like four person competitions for a number

529
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:08.240
<v Speaker 5>one contender, and those two face each other in the finals,

530
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:10.359
<v Speaker 5>and that starts that seed with ever who wins.

531
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean, like, what do you do to what do

532
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:13.960
<v Speaker 4>you do to start that?

533
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, you could do it a lot of different ways,

534
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 3>but all Callis is gotta do is just turn on him.

535
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:21.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean he can use any excuse to turn on

536
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Fletcher and vice versas. I mean he could turn he

537
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 3>could take in and say, okay, well to Kish's gun

538
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.359
<v Speaker 3>as far as I can take him. Fletcher bigger, He's

539
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 3>got a bigger deal, He's got a bigger future. So

540
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:34.480
<v Speaker 3>let's cut out.

541
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:37.240
<v Speaker 5>You got you need more motive, Like I got a

542
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:39.759
<v Speaker 5>care man, I got I have to have somebody I'm

543
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.920
<v Speaker 5>rooting for in that conflict, So who who gets set

544
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:44.960
<v Speaker 5>is the sympathetic one in that conflict?

545
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:45.200
<v Speaker 7>Though?

546
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.240
<v Speaker 5>How do you set that up? Because Kallis is the

547
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:51.119
<v Speaker 5>one we're gonna hate unless they do the weirdest booking

548
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.079
<v Speaker 5>and turning babyface, which is impossible.

549
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah callis babyface. Oh my god, Yeah, exactly would freeze over.

550
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:00.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but I mean, it doesn't have to be

551
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:05.480
<v Speaker 3>anything major to start that, because it could be something

552
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:08.519
<v Speaker 3>simply that down the road you have a match between

553
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:17.599
<v Speaker 3>uh Taqushta and shit, now I'm having Kelson issues between

554
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:22.480
<v Speaker 3>him and Ospray, that is it is being over sixty

555
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.599
<v Speaker 3>over fifty. You know, it's a problem. But you could

556
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.359
<v Speaker 3>have a match down the road somewhere between Ospray and Taqushta,

557
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 3>and Callison's out Fletcher to do something and it doesn't

558
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:38.599
<v Speaker 3>happen and it costs to Qusha a match. You could

559
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.240
<v Speaker 3>have them to continue the feud and after Fletcher gets

560
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.680
<v Speaker 3>beat after because right now, the one if Fletcher's got

561
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 3>the upper hand, if you get to Osprey to have

562
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.480
<v Speaker 3>a win over him the next time in the Rower match,

563
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 3>it could be barely won by Osprey, and that pisses

564
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 3>Callous off because he doesn't want his boy to lose.

565
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's there's unbelievably a number of ways you

566
00:31:58.960 --> 00:31:59.400
<v Speaker 3>could do that.

567
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:04.279
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, if I do it, I have to set that up.

568
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 5>Whoever's going to be the babyface coming out of that.

569
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 5>You got to make him sympathetic. So to start this,

570
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:13.839
<v Speaker 5>they got to get inadvertently screwed out of something. So

571
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 5>if I see like a number one contender's four way

572
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:19.759
<v Speaker 5>and Takeshaa and Fletcher and the two other goobers are

573
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.279
<v Speaker 5>in it, the story is what happens between the two

574
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:26.920
<v Speaker 5>of them. Something happens on the outside. Callous says, Fletcher's

575
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 5>about to get the pin. Cous like, no, no, no,

576
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:29.920
<v Speaker 5>you got to get this guy to take care of it,

577
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.079
<v Speaker 5>so blah blah blah, and kind of distracts him inadvertently,

578
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:35.400
<v Speaker 5>And while he's taking care of that business Callous told

579
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.400
<v Speaker 5>him to, Kesha slips in and gets the pin. So, yeah,

580
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:42.200
<v Speaker 5>somebody won. But now Fletcher's immediately sympathetic. We don't know

581
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 5>that Callous screw him over for real? Was that coincidence?

582
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 4>Calus like, oh man, yeah.

583
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:48.720
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't thinking. I just you know, but he slipped them.

584
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 5>But hey, you know, team win for us, right, then

585
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.720
<v Speaker 5>when the big turn happens, you got your built in

586
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 5>babyface and we got a reason to care.

587
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 3>Now, I think anybody's going to be simpleathetic with anybody

588
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:05.000
<v Speaker 3>that Callous turns on because Callus has so much hate

589
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:06.720
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter what happens.

590
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Callus is turning on a lot of people and

591
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 6>uh Omega and several others.

592
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 5>But you need to set it up, man. I think

593
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.039
<v Speaker 5>you need to make him sympathetic before the turn. You gotta,

594
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.279
<v Speaker 5>you gotta, you gotta make us want this guy to

595
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:21.440
<v Speaker 5>to not have it happen.

596
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Though.

597
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hate to make the Cross promotional comparison, but

598
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Don Challis has dominic mysterio heat every time that he's

599
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:33.000
<v Speaker 2>anywhere on Like, you can't you can't have him cut

600
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 2>a promo without the sound of booze drowning him out.

601
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.680
<v Speaker 2>It's it's amazing, Yeah.

602
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.880
<v Speaker 3>And it could be something as simple as the in

603
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:45.160
<v Speaker 3>the in the rubber match between Osbray and Fletcher, Osprey

604
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 3>gets beat and he's like Callous is pushing to have

605
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:51.759
<v Speaker 3>some one of his cash to help him make sure

606
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.079
<v Speaker 3>he gets that third win, and Fletcher says, no, he

607
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:56.319
<v Speaker 3>does it anyway. I mean, it's something as simple as

608
00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:00.319
<v Speaker 3>that could get people to be sympathetic for Fletcher. But

609
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:03.119
<v Speaker 3>it's like I said, it doesn't take a lot to

610
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:09.360
<v Speaker 3>make people hate anybody if you're with callous and to

611
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 3>make the other person sympathetic.

612
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:15.559
<v Speaker 6>Now, I just think maybe maybe it's Fletcher who makes

613
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 6>a better heel and Takashi can make a better face.

614
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 6>In my opinion, Uh, I don't you know. I think

615
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.920
<v Speaker 6>it's jealousy because Fletcher wants a title, wants to be more.

616
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 6>You know, he's beaten, you know in this se too.

617
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 6>He has a chance to perform. If he loses it,

618
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 6>he might lose his mind a little bit. If it

619
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:38.880
<v Speaker 6>may come down to the C two, may come down

620
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.159
<v Speaker 6>to the finals, may come down to Ospray and him,

621
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 6>and he loses this one and he flips the lid

622
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.519
<v Speaker 6>as well. But Fletcher is my guy to be a

623
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.719
<v Speaker 6>heel because he just looks like a heel. And Takeashka

624
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 6>really has that baby face to him, and I think

625
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.840
<v Speaker 6>he could be more sympathetic to for fans to go with.

626
00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:00.360
<v Speaker 5>I think you're right, he's a baby face already. Ruby's

627
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 5>steering for him when he's out there. They want to

628
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:03.320
<v Speaker 5>see him when they wanted to see him get the

629
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:04.159
<v Speaker 5>international title.

630
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:05.199
<v Speaker 4>So I think you're right.

631
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 5>I think that's who. That's who you should go forward

632
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:08.159
<v Speaker 5>as a babyface if they do that.

633
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 8>I already feel sympathy for Kyle Fletcher, to be quite

634
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:18.920
<v Speaker 8>honest with all of you, because I see Callous treating

635
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.639
<v Speaker 8>him very much the same way that he treated Kenny Omega.

636
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:27.719
<v Speaker 8>So I feel bad for Kyle.

637
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.039
<v Speaker 5>So he's manipulating him.

638
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 8>Huh, he's manipulating him, calling his son his you know,

639
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.199
<v Speaker 8>he's family, giving him a little kiss on the cheek,

640
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 8>holding him close, telling them all his secrets. I've even

641
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:46.559
<v Speaker 8>read different things online that with his hair shape, Fletcher

642
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.880
<v Speaker 8>looks like Callous now, and I think it's all a

643
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.679
<v Speaker 8>big setup. It's not him doing this with Omega.

644
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 3>So I feel if Letcher comes out with the real

645
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 3>colored glasses on too, there's gonna be a problem.

646
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Simply.

647
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Omega is the outlier factor here. Something people aren't really

648
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 2>taking into consideration is that they're building some kind of

649
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Omega story centered around his final run and can

650
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.199
<v Speaker 2>and leaving the industry with his title as the best

651
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 2>bout machine. There have been applications of Fletcher Osprey Okada.

652
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:33.039
<v Speaker 2>There's been implications of Gabe, Kid Desperado, you know a

653
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.960
<v Speaker 2>couple of guys. He I mean like I could very

654
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I could very well see the rubber match Fletcher winning.

655
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:41.199
<v Speaker 2>Omega comes out and lets everyone know who the best

656
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>bout machine is. And again, you know, Okada three months ago,

657
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm the best bot machine, bitch.

658
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>So I wanted I wanted to revisit something that somebody

659
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>said earlier about Don Kallis becoming a babyface. Yeah, it

660
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.159
<v Speaker 1>seems kind of improbable, but I do have the scenario

661
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:03.760
<v Speaker 1>in which he could become a baby face. Tony Storm

662
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 1>is out with the torn labia, why not have Don

663
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Callis give her his that saw his forehead, the time

664
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>for everything and the labor. No, that's not what she

665
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>had she I know, I know that's the specifically said

666
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>that she was cutting wood with an axe. Okay, he

667
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:40.599
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a torn labor.

668
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:45.280
<v Speaker 3>That's gonna be funny.

669
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:46.920
<v Speaker 4>The best part.

670
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:49.719
<v Speaker 5>About Tony Storm matches is like when they do the

671
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.039
<v Speaker 5>crotch kick. It works on everybody. I just I can

672
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.440
<v Speaker 5>never get over. That's the only women's match where that works.

673
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Whenever she got kicked in the hurt like hell I would.

674
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:04.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure it does.

675
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I've often said, if you want to really, really make

676
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.159
<v Speaker 1>a man visitable, kick the guy next to him in

677
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.559
<v Speaker 1>a cross just the thought of it will cripple him in.

678
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.679
<v Speaker 3>He's got to show him a picture of it, or

679
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 3>a small video.

680
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, not many people video, Not many people walk around.

681
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Here sympathy.

682
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Lead by examples.

683
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:35.159
<v Speaker 3>Let's sake you a perfect, a perfect from that brand.

684
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, does anybody else have any of

685
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 1>the nominations in one of the categories for for the

686
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:47.760
<v Speaker 1>A W Vennable Awards.

687
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:52.880
<v Speaker 3>I think the hardest one for me was the baby

688
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Face of the Year, because there are so few baby

689
00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:58.400
<v Speaker 3>faces in a W.

690
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:00.760
<v Speaker 1>That's a great point.

691
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you very have very few baby faces. If

692
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Private Party would have won the titles earlier, I might

693
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 3>have said them. I honestly can't remember who I put

694
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 3>on this for the h my nominations I did. I

695
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:19.039
<v Speaker 3>think I did him on Reddit. I don't remember who

696
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:21.199
<v Speaker 3>I put in there, to be honest with you, but

697
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.599
<v Speaker 3>I can't really think. I mean, the the only one

698
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:26.599
<v Speaker 3>that I did I could think of right off hand.

699
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:28.039
<v Speaker 3>If I was going to put somebody in it now,

700
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:29.400
<v Speaker 3>would be Daniel Garcia.

701
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:33.039
<v Speaker 7>I think for me it's Danielson.

702
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's Mike you pick.

703
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:38.559
<v Speaker 3>But even earlier.

704
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Danielson was, you know, talking about amateurs and he was

705
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>going nuts.

706
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.639
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't me he was he was playing tween or King

707
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:49.400
<v Speaker 3>of the Year. You know, he wasn't really being a

708
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:50.400
<v Speaker 3>baby face at all?

709
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:55.360
<v Speaker 5>Did Did nobody pay attention to the person they crowned?

710
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:58.239
<v Speaker 5>Is the new guy this year who had a three

711
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.320
<v Speaker 5>month run as the top baby face in the company

712
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:03.800
<v Speaker 5>and is still arguably the hottest baby face in the

713
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:06.199
<v Speaker 5>company next to Will ask for everybody missed that.

714
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:09.599
<v Speaker 1>One?

715
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:10.280
<v Speaker 4>Did nobody?

716
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:12.679
<v Speaker 5>Did nobody pop when he beats Mojo for that title

717
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:13.360
<v Speaker 5>and go crazy?

718
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:13.639
<v Speaker 1>Like?

719
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 5>Am I the only one that thinks he is the

720
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:16.519
<v Speaker 5>baby face.

721
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:16.679
<v Speaker 4>Of the year?

722
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.480
<v Speaker 5>Watching him rise from the end to see too and

723
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 5>become the people's champ and then the real champ and

724
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.920
<v Speaker 5>then like classics with Hangar like Swarve?

725
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Am I? Like?

726
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.000
<v Speaker 4>Was I the only one watching all that? I don't

727
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:30.360
<v Speaker 4>understand how nobody else does?

728
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I never really people said that hag Man isn't necessarily

729
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:38.440
<v Speaker 1>a heel. I look at Swerve the same way. I

730
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:40.039
<v Speaker 1>don't really consider him a babyface.

731
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:41.320
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't either.

732
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:45.320
<v Speaker 5>He's the top baby face to me, Man, to me, if.

733
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 3>You're going to be a baby face, you have to

734
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:49.000
<v Speaker 3>you don't. You don't get the flip flop back and

735
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 3>forth every other match. And to me, that's what he

736
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:54.599
<v Speaker 3>did all year one one, Matthew was a baby face.

737
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:56.719
<v Speaker 3>The next match he was it was a heel. You

738
00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:59.480
<v Speaker 3>can't have that, that that makes you a bona fide

739
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.159
<v Speaker 3>point ma baby.

740
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.119
<v Speaker 5>And that was against his art rival Hangar. Like once

741
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:07.599
<v Speaker 5>he got the belt, he has been a baby face

742
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:09.760
<v Speaker 5>the whole time. You have to set the blood feud

743
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:11.960
<v Speaker 5>matches aside. Those are kind of like out of cannon

744
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.000
<v Speaker 5>matches and it's anything goes its rivalry weekend and college

745
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 5>football when those two hook up. Outside of that, since

746
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.320
<v Speaker 5>getting the belt from Samo Joe, he has one a

747
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:26.559
<v Speaker 5>baby face the entire time. People chant whose house randomly

748
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.119
<v Speaker 5>throughout the show like nobody else has anything like that?

749
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:32.639
<v Speaker 5>Nobody else does. It's him.

750
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:39.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just don't see him as I get.

751
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:47.559
<v Speaker 2>At a fright night. In between matches, people were chanting

752
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 2>for m v P SO and not a baby face.

753
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, like, aw fans are nothing less than zealous.

754
00:41:56.360 --> 00:42:00.599
<v Speaker 3>So I mean, and you can be a so much

755
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.400
<v Speaker 3>different in the past. You can be for the well,

756
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:06.880
<v Speaker 3>you can be a he and have the best pup.

757
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:09.760
<v Speaker 5>A catchphrases.

758
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:10.760
<v Speaker 4>Everybody loves them.

759
00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Aw only has one true baby face, and That'ski.

760
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:18.639
<v Speaker 2>I love the silence after that statement.

761
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Nobody is coming up with anybody else.

762
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Everyone they're truly. That's like I said, That's what made

763
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.400
<v Speaker 3>it so hard, is there are so few baby faces.

764
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

765
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 3>You don't have the problems right now too. Yeah, it is.

766
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.880
<v Speaker 3>We've discussed that before. You can't have every champion in

767
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.880
<v Speaker 3>your company be a be a heel. I can't. I

768
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:45.840
<v Speaker 3>don't makes no sense.

769
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, if the a W has had baby faces though,

770
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean classified baby face to a W. If I

771
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.480
<v Speaker 2>were to pick, I would say three years ago Alcoholic

772
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:56.360
<v Speaker 2>king Man had a page.

773
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:01.480
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, what about just going have been faces or

774
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:05.320
<v Speaker 6>try to be faces and not Now they've been over,

775
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.679
<v Speaker 6>you know, you go to the Super sizermy Daddy stuff

776
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.920
<v Speaker 6>and all that. So I so I say they've been

777
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:13.400
<v Speaker 6>super over and then win in the tag titles was

778
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.360
<v Speaker 6>freaking huge and everybody wanted it.

779
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:20.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean they've they've had babyfaces, they just have

780
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:22.840
<v Speaker 5>a problem with them right now. And I think that's

781
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:27.199
<v Speaker 5>an issue with the booking too, Like again the Death Writers,

782
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:34.480
<v Speaker 5>who are they feuding with every Magic collaboration and a

783
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:38.400
<v Speaker 5>couple additional top mid card guys. They were not with

784
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.880
<v Speaker 5>top guys. It's only been this week when they started

785
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:44.719
<v Speaker 5>introducing the Hangman and Jay White stuff that we're starting

786
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:46.760
<v Speaker 5>to see them feud with top guys. And why did

787
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:48.719
<v Speaker 5>they not have top guys to feud with because all

788
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 5>the other babyfaces who were top guys already were in

789
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.559
<v Speaker 5>other feuds. That's why aw is a problem. They do

790
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 5>not have enough top baby faces. Everybody went heel. It

791
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.440
<v Speaker 5>was weird timing. They're trying to course correct. You can

792
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:02.679
<v Speaker 5>kind of see maybe Hangar is going to turn again,

793
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:05.519
<v Speaker 5>but that's one of their problems. They don't have enough

794
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:06.480
<v Speaker 5>top baby faces.

795
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.360
<v Speaker 3>The reason that the Death Writers started out the way

796
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 3>they did was exactly what they're trying to do. They

797
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:14.679
<v Speaker 3>didn't go out of the top guys because that's not

798
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.920
<v Speaker 3>who his intentions are for. He wants to elevate the

799
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.679
<v Speaker 3>young guys, motivate the younger people who are just sitting

800
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.079
<v Speaker 3>back taking a paycheck. It has nothing to do with

801
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.679
<v Speaker 3>the top people, and that's why they haven't had that

802
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 3>feud yet they're not anywhere near trying to go after them.

803
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:31.199
<v Speaker 3>If you listen to what Moxley says is he wants

804
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:34.599
<v Speaker 3>to change aw he wants to build up the younger guys.

805
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.599
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't care about the older guys because that's not

806
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:38.519
<v Speaker 3>his target object.

807
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:43.800
<v Speaker 5>So I don't disagree that that's potentially what they're trying

808
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 5>to tell you. That works great if you've got an

809
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.719
<v Speaker 5>hour long drama and it's fifteen episodes in a television series,

810
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:51.880
<v Speaker 5>and you can really really get that across the fans.

811
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.599
<v Speaker 5>But in professional wrestling, if you want people to give

812
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:56.960
<v Speaker 5>a crap about a feud, it's got to involve a

813
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 5>top person, and in this case, the Death Riders and

814
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.400
<v Speaker 5>this last week have not been feuding with anybody at

815
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:05.840
<v Speaker 5>the top of the card. Orange Cassidy not a top guy.

816
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:08.480
<v Speaker 5>He's a top card, but he's not a top guy.

817
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.480
<v Speaker 5>Same thing with Garcia. Those are the top guys. So

818
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:13.639
<v Speaker 5>I know that's what they may be trying to do something.

819
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.400
<v Speaker 5>And I don't think you're necessarily wrong there, but the

820
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.199
<v Speaker 5>way they're trying to play that out, it's not working.

821
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:20.039
<v Speaker 5>It's not.

822
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Now.

823
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be fun to revisit last year

824
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:28.039
<v Speaker 1>and give you the winner from last year just to

825
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:32.079
<v Speaker 1>see how it's changed. Let me list the seven categories

826
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:35.199
<v Speaker 1>and who won it last year. For Men's Wrestler of

827
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the Year was MJF. For Women's Wrestler of the Year,

828
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.320
<v Speaker 1>it was Tony Storm. For Babyface of the Year, it

829
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 1>was MJF. For Heel of the Year, it was Christian Cage.

830
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>For Most Improved of the Year, it was Julia Hart.

831
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>For Character Work of the Year, it was Tony Storm.

832
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 1>And for a Faction of the Year was the Blackpool Calmbat.

833
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 7>So not much wow, not much.

834
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Couple name changes.

835
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.639
<v Speaker 1>I will say this that as far as who was

836
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:12.039
<v Speaker 1>nominated last year and who was nominated this year, who's

837
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:14.559
<v Speaker 1>leading the nominations. From what I've seen, I haven't tallied

838
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.800
<v Speaker 1>them yet, there's a lot more names in there, so

839
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more diversity in there going toward it.

840
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to move on because it kind of kind

841
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:29.159
<v Speaker 1>of bleeds into what we just talked about about the

842
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.199
<v Speaker 1>whole we don't have enough babyfaces. There is a rumor

843
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:37.079
<v Speaker 1>that are reported at World's end we're going to get

844
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>a fatal four way for the aw world title, and

845
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the four men who are rumored to be. Participating in

846
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:55.880
<v Speaker 1>this are John Moxley, Christian Cage, Jay White, and hang

847
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Man Adam Page. And you can argue that the biggest

848
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:03.719
<v Speaker 1>babyface and that whole group is Jay White. What the

849
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:04.920
<v Speaker 1>hell is going on here?

850
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 3>And do you like this match?

851
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna be a banker.

852
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:21.239
<v Speaker 5>It was mox Hager White? And who is the fourth one?

853
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 7>Christian?

854
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Christian Cage Christian the wild card? Mmmmm.

855
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.480
<v Speaker 5>If you're going to bring that Copeland that works perfect.

856
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.639
<v Speaker 1>It'll be a big match. But as far as story goes,

857
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:35.079
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't make any sense to me.

858
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:37.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would.

859
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>First of all, I'm not a fan of the four

860
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 1>way at all. I don't care who you put in it.

861
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a fan of the four way at all.

862
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:49.920
<v Speaker 1>If Boxley beats I just want to person If Boxley

863
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:53.840
<v Speaker 1>beats Cage, Page and White, who in the hell is

864
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>get to challenge him next? There is nobody really that there's.

865
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.679
<v Speaker 7>It won't be a clean somebody's going to come back.

866
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.199
<v Speaker 1>You would need at least three or four people coming back.

867
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:07.280
<v Speaker 1>There's no way that this match.

868
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:10.400
<v Speaker 5>And can I ask Shane a question?

869
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:11.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh here we.

870
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:16.440
<v Speaker 5>Go, Shane, who do you think speeding Max for that belt?

871
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Darby or Kenny.

872
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:23.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm thinking the same thing. I think it's ny.

873
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:28.159
<v Speaker 2>I think it could. I think in our hearts we

874
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.519
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be Kenny just because we know that he's

875
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 2>on his farewell tour. He puts so much work into

876
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.400
<v Speaker 2>the company. He's paying his tribute to Japan right now.

877
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.840
<v Speaker 2>He thinks that that his last major health scare is,

878
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, his coup de gras for entering work. You know,

879
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:45.559
<v Speaker 2>I think Tony would honor the work that he did

880
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:47.920
<v Speaker 2>by putting the belt for on him, send him for

881
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:49.840
<v Speaker 2>a short run, and then let him hang his boots

882
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the way that he wants to. I also think that

883
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.679
<v Speaker 2>they put a lot of time in developing Darby. It's

884
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:56.400
<v Speaker 2>a roller coaster. They let him get his ask kicks

885
00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:57.960
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, then he's on top, and he gets

886
00:48:57.960 --> 00:48:59.800
<v Speaker 2>his as kicked a little more. Then he's on top

887
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:02.440
<v Speaker 2>of already beaten mos clean. I mean, I could see

888
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 2>it happening.

889
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:08.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, your thing for Kenny is exactly what I was thinking.

890
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:12.960
<v Speaker 5>I viewed it from an emotional, long term storytelling aspect.

891
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:18.320
<v Speaker 5>Kenny Omega is the guy that they built this promotion around,

892
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 5>and he is did Mox beat him for the belt

893
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:25.519
<v Speaker 5>or was it Hangar was it hangman?

894
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:25.960
<v Speaker 4>Hangman?

895
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:26.199
<v Speaker 3>No?

896
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:27.840
<v Speaker 5>He beat mox for the belt.

897
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Right yep?

898
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Then hang okay, yes, dark order stuff right.

899
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:37.440
<v Speaker 5>So for me, like just again the emotional center of

900
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.159
<v Speaker 5>the establishment and writing this wrong, that is the death writers.

901
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:44.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm just using some emotional terms. It makes

902
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.920
<v Speaker 5>sense for it to be Kenny. Like you said, he

903
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:48.840
<v Speaker 5>has a short term run, and he gets to pick

904
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:50.440
<v Speaker 5>the guy he wants to put over to drop the

905
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:54.320
<v Speaker 5>title to May who knows. I mean, that's a huge

906
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:56.679
<v Speaker 5>golden ticket for wherever he decides to drop it to.

907
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean from a logistical standpoint too, I I mean

908
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:05.159
<v Speaker 2>with the impact that the exploding barbed wire death match hat.

909
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:08.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying it because it's in the dark history

910
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:10.440
<v Speaker 2>of aw I don't think it'd be a wise move

911
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:14.199
<v Speaker 2>to put Kenny in box together, like in a setting

912
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:18.239
<v Speaker 2>like that. So I mean, maybe Kenny off a box

913
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:20.800
<v Speaker 2>or Kenny off of Derby. But Kenny ultimately holds it

914
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:23.760
<v Speaker 2>again and goes on one final run. Maybe belt clocks

915
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:25.639
<v Speaker 2>for one more time because they're giving him plenty of time.

916
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:28.480
<v Speaker 2>It's evident that they're building a program with him in

917
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Japan right now. He's a bolt club leader going after

918
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Bolt Club top guys. So I could see it so

919
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:36.400
<v Speaker 2>that he comes over here and stirs it up over

920
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:37.400
<v Speaker 2>here completely.

921
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 3>You asked about who could be the next in line

922
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:43.800
<v Speaker 3>after that. My son was in the kitchen and he

923
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:46.760
<v Speaker 3>ever heard her conversation and he held her a name

924
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:49.480
<v Speaker 3>at me. He said, it would be cool if Hobbes

925
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:53.719
<v Speaker 3>was included in that talk, and I think that would

926
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:56.280
<v Speaker 3>be an amazing person to put in that battle. Eventually

927
00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:59.400
<v Speaker 3>he is, he's come back. He's talking about how he

928
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:03.519
<v Speaker 3>wants to bring his real life personality into his character,

929
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:09.599
<v Speaker 3>and he would go over huge as a babyface and nothing.

930
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:12.719
<v Speaker 3>That would be an amazing master c where you had

931
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Hobbs take on Moxley, because if anybody in aw could

932
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:19.480
<v Speaker 3>take Moxiana would be.

933
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:23.079
<v Speaker 5>Hobbs them stopping that book of Hobbs stuff.

934
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:23.639
<v Speaker 4>You're spot on.

935
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:26.199
<v Speaker 5>It was awful like he had a good thing going

936
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:28.480
<v Speaker 5>and it was easy to get invested in Historian And

937
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.360
<v Speaker 5>I think you're right getting back that's gonna be good.

938
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:32.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm Kelson. I'm sorry. I think I talked over you.

939
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I've said it before and I'll say

940
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 1>it again. I am a huge mark for our house Hobbs.

941
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I just think he's great. I said it. I think

942
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:46.360
<v Speaker 1>last week where if I could pick one man from

943
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:49.440
<v Speaker 1>AW to just hang out with and you know, bend

944
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.800
<v Speaker 1>their ears, just have dinner with, you know, and just

945
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:56.280
<v Speaker 1>talk wrestling, it would probably be Powerhouse Hobbs because I

946
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:58.920
<v Speaker 1>just like his person. He just strikes me as an

947
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 1>all round good guy. He just snarls a lot. But

948
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:08.159
<v Speaker 1>one word that you said it rings true with me. Eventually,

949
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:12.119
<v Speaker 1>they've gotta do a lot of work with I'm not

950
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:16.000
<v Speaker 1>saying the Powerhouse do talent. It just doesn't make sense

951
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:17.840
<v Speaker 1>right now. It's going to take a year or so

952
00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to build him to that level where he can share

953
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the spotlight with somebody like Moxley and and uh like

954
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Kenny o'meaga will Osprey.

955
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:32.519
<v Speaker 3>I think he could do it.

956
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:35.320
<v Speaker 1>They just gotta make him. And the one thing that

957
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I have reservations about, and you guys may disagree with me,

958
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:43.800
<v Speaker 1>but he's a big guy. He's the big muscular guy,

959
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and Tony Kahn just doesn't seem to like that much.

960
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know everything you've ever saw on WWE a

961
00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:59.840
<v Speaker 3>w because for the longest most of the time that

962
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:04.039
<v Speaker 3>McMahon was in charge. He loved his big guys. Didn't

963
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:08.800
<v Speaker 3>matter they were big, they were good to him. So yeah,

964
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:11.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but the other thing about that is, like

965
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:15.480
<v Speaker 3>you said, not at the moment, I agree. But the

966
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:18.559
<v Speaker 3>nice thing about the way they're doing this, and what

967
00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:23.960
<v Speaker 3>makes this storyline so good is you can string this out.

968
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:27.639
<v Speaker 3>This could go on for ever if they really really

969
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.840
<v Speaker 3>wanted it to, because you can bring so many new

970
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:33.239
<v Speaker 3>people into this and you can rotate through. You get

971
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:35.320
<v Speaker 3>these three out of here, then you bring in Osprey,

972
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:38.519
<v Speaker 3>maybe you bring in Okada, maybe bring in the Bucks.

973
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:41.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you could between now and the time that

974
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:44.960
<v Speaker 3>somebody that their final boss is ready, you could have

975
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:48.360
<v Speaker 3>so many good, many stories in there that this could

976
00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:50.400
<v Speaker 3>provide stuff for a long time.

977
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:55.079
<v Speaker 7>I would rather have Ospray be a champion in Omega

978
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:59.519
<v Speaker 7>or Darby. I just don't see the point of having

979
00:53:59.559 --> 00:53:59.800
<v Speaker 7>this whole.

980
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 6>Dude, if if an older guy's gonna come in and

981
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:08.119
<v Speaker 6>and beat Moxley, and I don't think Darby's would make

982
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.039
<v Speaker 6>a good world champion. I used to think that, but

983
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 6>by the way his matches goes reminded me so much

984
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:18.559
<v Speaker 6>of how Orange Cassidy's thing go to the the roll

985
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:20.880
<v Speaker 6>up stuff I just don't want to see him. But

986
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 6>Will is a future and I wouldn't mind seeing him

987
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:25.519
<v Speaker 6>with that bell, but I don't know how to throw

988
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:26.880
<v Speaker 6>him into the mix eventually.

989
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:28.000
<v Speaker 7>Well, and they can.

990
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Always say if if they do put it on Kenny,

991
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:35.760
<v Speaker 3>he could drop it to Osprey. Yeah, I mean that

992
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:39.760
<v Speaker 3>would be They've have a history. It would make sense.

993
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:43.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean Osprey, you could put it on him. You

994
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 3>could put it on Jay White through Kenny. I mean

995
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:47.719
<v Speaker 3>they have a history in New Japan.

996
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:51.199
<v Speaker 7>I would be very omega got it.

997
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:55.000
<v Speaker 5>I think from when I was talking about that storyline earlier.

998
00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:58.519
<v Speaker 5>Maybe it's not Kenny, but it seems to me they're

999
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:01.559
<v Speaker 5>setting this up that somebody who beats Max is an eight.

1000
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.000
<v Speaker 5>It's going to be an a W original, whether that's

1001
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:06.719
<v Speaker 5>one of the Elite, whether that's Darby, it's an a W.

1002
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:10.760
<v Speaker 5>It's got to be an AW original. So I don't

1003
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:11.800
<v Speaker 5>know who else they go with.

1004
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:14.199
<v Speaker 4>But like a tough guy.

1005
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Could see m j F getting involved in this and

1006
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:21.159
<v Speaker 3>the story that he could prove pool and they could

1007
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:24.320
<v Speaker 3>have with him versus Mox and the and the Death Riders.

1008
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:28.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, oh my god, well he would he would

1009
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:34.679
<v Speaker 3>probably want to join them and then not necessarily join

1010
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:36.519
<v Speaker 3>with them.

1011
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.079
<v Speaker 5>Put together, if Mox is the muscle, MGFS team would

1012
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:43.599
<v Speaker 5>have to be the smarter ones. They'd have to be

1013
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:45.519
<v Speaker 5>able to outwit them and out scheme them, and they

1014
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, they'd have some beef in there. But if

1015
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Max is the power they got to out smart them,

1016
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.840
<v Speaker 5>that could be a fun feud. Suddon, I think it's

1017
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:54.760
<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's a terrible idea. It could be

1018
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:55.639
<v Speaker 5>a lot of fun with done right.

1019
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The funny part is we can sit here and

1020
00:55:57.960 --> 00:55:59.960
<v Speaker 3>we can talk about this for the next four hours

1021
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:03.840
<v Speaker 3>and you can name off everybody in ae W and

1022
00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:06.000
<v Speaker 3>you're not going to find a bad option in any

1023
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.199
<v Speaker 3>of them, to be honest. Yeah, Yeah, I mean that's

1024
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:10.519
<v Speaker 3>the great part about this. Everybody, you know, like you

1025
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:13.280
<v Speaker 3>said earlier, you don't necessarily or somebody said it, they

1026
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.559
<v Speaker 3>don't necessarily like what the death Writers are doing. But

1027
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:20.360
<v Speaker 3>the fact is they're doing, and they're doing more. They've

1028
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.079
<v Speaker 3>done more with the death Writers than they've done in

1029
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.800
<v Speaker 3>the entire first five years of AW for the men's side.

1030
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, show, I disagree on every show, every show, and

1031
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:34.199
<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing on every show except for this

1032
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:38.519
<v Speaker 1>past week. I was surprised. I was surprised this past week,

1033
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:47.320
<v Speaker 1>and I enjoyed it this past week. Every show for weeks,

1034
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the Death Writers did the same exact thing that they

1035
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:54.599
<v Speaker 1>did the previous week. The only one, the only one

1036
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:57.239
<v Speaker 1>that I can distinguish from any of the others, was

1037
00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.639
<v Speaker 1>the show that I was at Wilkespeare, Pennsylvania. You know

1038
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the only one, because for five weeks we talked

1039
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:07.320
<v Speaker 1>about it here. The Death Writers just did the same

1040
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.960
<v Speaker 1>exact thing every week. It was I believe a case

1041
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:14.679
<v Speaker 1>where they brought the Death Writers in a little too soon, probably,

1042
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:17.840
<v Speaker 1>but they would have waited about two or three more weeks,

1043
00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:19.559
<v Speaker 1>it probably would have worked better.

1044
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:24.880
<v Speaker 8>I really need something bad to happen to Wheeler.

1045
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Dah.

1046
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:28.360
<v Speaker 8>I'm tired of waiting so.

1047
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:30.639
<v Speaker 7>To happen.

1048
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:32.599
<v Speaker 6>Every week.

1049
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:34.719
<v Speaker 8>I'm on the edge of my seat like he's going

1050
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:38.280
<v Speaker 8>to get it, and and he somehow squirms away.

1051
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:46.079
<v Speaker 7>You need to week eventually, somewhere along the line.

1052
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:47.920
<v Speaker 1>How could you be hating on Wheeler?

1053
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:52.400
<v Speaker 3>You to that I have never liked Wheeler. I have

1054
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:53.519
<v Speaker 3>never liked him.

1055
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:55.760
<v Speaker 5>I want to toss this out there to you guys,

1056
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:58.159
<v Speaker 5>to so many it might have been something he was

1057
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:01.840
<v Speaker 5>saying a second ago. When they do the four way match,

1058
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:03.840
<v Speaker 5>we're figuring out, like, well, how does Mox retain? Some

1059
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.880
<v Speaker 5>Shenanigans go down, So assuming OC stays off camera for

1060
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:11.679
<v Speaker 5>a while since they murdered him, I could see a

1061
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:16.239
<v Speaker 5>scenario where he comes back, his music hits, and he

1062
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:18.480
<v Speaker 5>comes in and everybody thinks he's going to stop Max

1063
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.079
<v Speaker 5>from winning, and he does what Shade has been predicting

1064
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.880
<v Speaker 5>and turns heel, and then we get a run with

1065
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:27.440
<v Speaker 5>OC who actually cares and tries with the Death Writers

1066
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:30.280
<v Speaker 5>as a heel. It sounds ridiculous because it is, and

1067
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:31.119
<v Speaker 5>it will never happen.

1068
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:34.920
<v Speaker 2>It is, but unfortunately ridiculous. I wish Tony would take

1069
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:36.079
<v Speaker 2>more liberties.

1070
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:36.480
<v Speaker 1>And like it.

1071
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:39.119
<v Speaker 2>For a dude that works so hard to emulate the

1072
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:43.679
<v Speaker 2>attitude area, you think he'd make steeper and more consequential

1073
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:46.719
<v Speaker 2>choices in storytelling, but he always seems to dance around

1074
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:51.559
<v Speaker 2>the same thematic principles and it makes aw sometimes difficult

1075
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:53.880
<v Speaker 2>to watch. As much as I love the product, it's

1076
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:56.960
<v Speaker 2>just frustrating. It's just being transparent.

1077
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Soary, did you say that this was something that Shade

1078
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:02.320
<v Speaker 1>has been I thought.

1079
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:05.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Shades, and I every time joke that anytime now

1080
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:08.719
<v Speaker 5>Oc is going to turn heel, and just how great

1081
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:10.800
<v Speaker 5>it'll be when he turns because he can be we

1082
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:13.079
<v Speaker 5>can finally see an orange casside who cares. You can

1083
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:14.880
<v Speaker 5>spin it with like you guys taught me something in

1084
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:16.960
<v Speaker 5>the ring and that I never took myself seriously, and

1085
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:19.199
<v Speaker 5>I saw what a wrestler takes himself seriously is like.

1086
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:21.840
<v Speaker 5>And I wanted that it's addictive in the promo cam

1087
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:24.920
<v Speaker 5>right itself, but I could see a run with him

1088
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:27.000
<v Speaker 5>like that, and that was something Shade had said, I

1089
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:28.960
<v Speaker 5>don't know, weeks ago, and we just kind.

1090
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Of played with it and we do the live chats well.

1091
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:34.239
<v Speaker 1>To be fair though, Barry Shades, you know, God love him.

1092
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:36.519
<v Speaker 1>I love the guy, but he's also the one that

1093
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:41.639
<v Speaker 1>just kept saying, showed me the bunny and that shit

1094
00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:45.320
<v Speaker 1>ever happened, So you maybe for a long wait, I

1095
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:45.960
<v Speaker 1>just put.

1096
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:48.960
<v Speaker 5>It, well, the fantasy booking, you know, scenarios that aren't

1097
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:50.440
<v Speaker 5>going to happen. It's just part of the game.

1098
00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:50.880
<v Speaker 1>It's fun.

1099
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:55.320
<v Speaker 2>My brother in Christ I also uh, like three or

1100
00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:57.000
<v Speaker 2>four weeks ago prior to Full gear.

1101
00:59:57.239 --> 00:59:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1102
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:01.719
<v Speaker 2>That was one of my Full Gear predictions was Orange.

1103
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:04.199
<v Speaker 2>Cassidy turns to the Death Riders. I would love to

1104
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:05.519
<v Speaker 2>please give it to me.

1105
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:07.679
<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna even break up. Who you thought the

1106
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:08.280
<v Speaker 1>devil was?

1107
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:09.880
<v Speaker 2>So I.

1108
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Never know what to let that out. No, I suck, No,

1109
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:19.519
<v Speaker 1>that came out wrong.

1110
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Who did you think the devil was?

1111
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Come on?

1112
01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Was seeing punk?

1113
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:32.880
<v Speaker 3>It would word it would have in surreal.

1114
01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:37.039
<v Speaker 2>You should have seen me on the forums back in

1115
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:39.440
<v Speaker 2>my my o G days of the fan hub. I was.

1116
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:44.079
<v Speaker 2>I was out there. I was fulloil hat like you guys.

1117
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:45.719
<v Speaker 2>They're still selling his merch on the merch store. I

1118
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:47.760
<v Speaker 2>would use the wayback machine on the internet to see

1119
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:58.440
<v Speaker 2>when they No, I'm always that guys.

1120
01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:00.440
<v Speaker 1>As crazy as what as you were, Shane, you did

1121
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:01.920
<v Speaker 1>make some really good points.

1122
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:07.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm still like that. I just unfortunately that uh really,

1123
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 2>that whole entire situation took me and knocked me down

1124
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:14.039
<v Speaker 2>my huge bag. I'm pretty good at Do you remember?

1125
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember who I said was the devil? Shade?

1126
01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:21.119
<v Speaker 2>No, I was too caught up in my own bullshit

1127
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:22.480
<v Speaker 2>to pay well.

1128
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:24.920
<v Speaker 1>My bullshit was almost as bad as yours. I thought

1129
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Tony K was.

1130
01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:28.239
<v Speaker 2>The Oh we did say that? Oh god, that would

1131
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:28.719
<v Speaker 2>have been great.

1132
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:33.000
<v Speaker 8>I remember that because I thought that for a while.

1133
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, but let's be fair, at times, Tony Khan

1134
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:38.639
<v Speaker 2>can't actually be the devil.

1135
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:44.440
<v Speaker 1>To the Internet wrestling community. He is, in fact the

1136
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:45.559
<v Speaker 1>devil he is.

1137
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:54.119
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what I don't understand why he

1138
01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:56.880
<v Speaker 9>gets to hate like everybody who works for him says,

1139
01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:59.039
<v Speaker 9>he seems to be one of the most genuinely nice people.

1140
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:06.079
<v Speaker 5>Yes, and I don't understand w W. I don't think

1141
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:07.840
<v Speaker 5>that's I don't know if that's what it is. It's

1142
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:11.599
<v Speaker 5>just people just create villains in their heads to justify

1143
01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:12.760
<v Speaker 5>perspectives sometimes.

1144
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Just the reason why the reason why people don't like

1145
01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Tony Kahan is because he's not w W plain.

1146
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:24.960
<v Speaker 7>And literally understand him.

1147
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:28.639
<v Speaker 1>Those are the body in charge of a W and

1148
01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:31.840
<v Speaker 1>they would get the same hey Tony does, right.

1149
01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:35.960
<v Speaker 3>You know what's crazy though, those are any successful.

1150
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.679
<v Speaker 2>That's any of those guys that are so critical of

1151
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:43.559
<v Speaker 2>the product because of Tony Kahan also owned w c

1152
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:47.920
<v Speaker 2>W replica books or replica belts and sting action figures

1153
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:49.360
<v Speaker 2>so they could check out forever.

1154
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Please put us on how long did w c W

1155
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:54.159
<v Speaker 3>ls four years?

1156
01:02:55.239 --> 01:03:03.639
<v Speaker 4>Whoa a lot longer than four years? Well, yeah, from

1157
01:03:03.679 --> 01:03:05.280
<v Speaker 4>the from the era.

1158
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:07.039
<v Speaker 5>I think it was four or four and a half years.

1159
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:11.559
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so that's the other reason. Is he actually lasted longer. Yeah.

1160
01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:14.920
<v Speaker 3>The other competition has been stuff.

1161
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Now, if I'm not mistaken, sometime like around May or June, a.

1162
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:27.960
<v Speaker 2>W will pass, yeah, metrically in terms of viewership and

1163
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:30.280
<v Speaker 2>uh and find financials.

1164
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean a or I'm talking about lake of time.

1165
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:37.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Nitro.

1166
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:41.519
<v Speaker 5>According to this, Nitro ran five years, so past the

1167
01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:42.400
<v Speaker 5>Nitro era soon.

1168
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:43.159
<v Speaker 1>See.

1169
01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:47.360
<v Speaker 6>But people don't understand Tony. He's he's smaller framed, He's

1170
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:50.360
<v Speaker 6>not a big guy. I personally think he's on the

1171
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:54.119
<v Speaker 6>spectrum and and people just love to bully him because

1172
01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:54.280
<v Speaker 6>of that.

1173
01:03:55.880 --> 01:03:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say that's the superpowers.

1174
01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:02.039
<v Speaker 1>You see people talk about he's a cocad, he's spending

1175
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:05.639
<v Speaker 1>his daddy's money, and all this other stuff that is

1176
01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:13.559
<v Speaker 1>just playground bullshit, and that the Internet wrestling community brings

1177
01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:18.440
<v Speaker 1>out Tony Khan bullshit. And I still believe that if

1178
01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Tony Khan were to just say the heck with it,

1179
01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:28.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm giving it to name anybody ever wrestling and put

1180
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:31.679
<v Speaker 1>that in charge, they will get the same hate.

1181
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:36.800
<v Speaker 2>And let him give it to Eric Bischoff. Maybe he'll

1182
01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:37.159
<v Speaker 2>shut the.

1183
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:48.119
<v Speaker 3>Maybe somebody success, what about Carter?

1184
01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Dixie Carter comment got no hate, unbelievable, So there you go,

1185
01:04:56.840 --> 01:04:58.000
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna go to Dixie Carter.

1186
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:04.159
<v Speaker 3>And here I would have, like I said, give them

1187
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:06.159
<v Speaker 3>somebody who's been successful.

1188
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:10.360
<v Speaker 1>At all.

1189
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:15.119
<v Speaker 3>I think you get a group together out of aw

1190
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.960
<v Speaker 3>fanhom and we should just all just say hey, we'll

1191
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:18.519
<v Speaker 3>run it for you.

1192
01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I will say this, we've come up early fantasy booking

1193
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:26.400
<v Speaker 1>year that I personally would have loved to have seed.

1194
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:29.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, not only in the podcast, but in the

1195
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:33.000
<v Speaker 1>aw fan of community. There's been some great fantasy booking

1196
01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that is totally feasible using what they have. And it's

1197
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:39.920
<v Speaker 1>better that it's been that it's better than what has

1198
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:44.800
<v Speaker 1>been on the show. So don't hold hold back on

1199
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:49.280
<v Speaker 1>on just a regular, average, every day Joe. Maybe they

1200
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:51.480
<v Speaker 1>get that Peter Griffin guy to you.

1201
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:55.719
<v Speaker 5>I would love to know, like to pick Tony or

1202
01:05:55.960 --> 01:06:02.159
<v Speaker 5>Shawn Michaels or brain and just like underderstand the challenges

1203
01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:05.079
<v Speaker 5>that goes into booking, Like how much does logistics come in?

1204
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:09.039
<v Speaker 5>How like how do you guys plan three months out?

1205
01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:14.360
<v Speaker 5>Like I would just love to understand doing that because

1206
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:17.960
<v Speaker 5>when they used to run the more of the house

1207
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.280
<v Speaker 5>shows too, they'd have to work in guys for traveling

1208
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:22.960
<v Speaker 5>and balance how many days contractually they need to be

1209
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:25.239
<v Speaker 5>home and all that. It's just I don't know, it's fascinating.

1210
01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Has written out years, not a year. He has this

1211
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:35.239
<v Speaker 3>written out years ahead. That is a lot of that's

1212
01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:36.280
<v Speaker 3>a lot of his problem.

1213
01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:44.079
<v Speaker 5>Why yeah, I wanted the first couple of years go ahead.

1214
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:49.639
<v Speaker 8>Sorry, oh thank you. Tony Kahan is always slighted and

1215
01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:54.639
<v Speaker 8>talked poorly about that he's spending his dad's money. That

1216
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:57.840
<v Speaker 8>you know, he hangs under his dad and and he's

1217
01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:02.320
<v Speaker 8>sheltered by his dad, and in his own right, his

1218
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:09.320
<v Speaker 8>father is the an NFL team owner. So his father

1219
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:16.440
<v Speaker 8>has spoken out about his own personal ordeals being an

1220
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:22.000
<v Speaker 8>NFL team owner and some of the issues he feels

1221
01:07:22.119 --> 01:07:27.440
<v Speaker 8>that he has faced being the owner of an NFL

1222
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:32.519
<v Speaker 8>team in the United States, And for all of the

1223
01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:41.119
<v Speaker 8>flack that Tony Khan get for various reasons, if he

1224
01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:44.719
<v Speaker 8>really were to me, if he really were kind of

1225
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:49.519
<v Speaker 8>parroting his dad, you never hear Tony Khan saying some

1226
01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:55.480
<v Speaker 8>of these same issues that he may be facing are

1227
01:07:56.440 --> 01:08:00.360
<v Speaker 8>the same issues that his dad has publicly said that

1228
01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:06.400
<v Speaker 8>he has faced and you know it to me, I

1229
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:09.719
<v Speaker 8>am I kind of look at it that way that

1230
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:13.000
<v Speaker 8>at the end of the day, I think a little

1231
01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:17.039
<v Speaker 8>bit of the hate that Tony Khan gets is because

1232
01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:21.479
<v Speaker 8>Tony Khan is a brown guy. And I think that

1233
01:08:21.640 --> 01:08:27.199
<v Speaker 8>that plays into it a bit, at least in some

1234
01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:33.199
<v Speaker 8>percentage of the toxic fan base, and that that's where

1235
01:08:33.239 --> 01:08:36.760
<v Speaker 8>it all comes from. But people that's not the polite

1236
01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:41.319
<v Speaker 8>thing to say, so people disguise it as he's a

1237
01:08:41.439 --> 01:08:45.439
<v Speaker 8>coke head. You know, he's spending all his dad's money,

1238
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:49.479
<v Speaker 8>and it really boils down to that to me.

1239
01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:55.560
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sorry that, but I think that the things

1240
01:08:55.600 --> 01:09:01.159
<v Speaker 1>that people say on the internet wrestling community about Tony

1241
01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Kahan are more vile than if they had simply said

1242
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that it's because he's a brown guy. To be honest

1243
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:08.119
<v Speaker 1>with you, I disagree with you. I don't think it

1244
01:09:08.159 --> 01:09:12.119
<v Speaker 1>has anything to do with his ethnicity at all. I

1245
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:15.760
<v Speaker 1>think it comes right down to if Tony Kahan was

1246
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:21.680
<v Speaker 1>in WWE and never bet at aw and ben at WWE,

1247
01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:26.560
<v Speaker 1>he'd be bloved. See he was in WWE. It's as

1248
01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:27.119
<v Speaker 1>simple as that.

1249
01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:31.880
<v Speaker 8>His dad came out as an NFL owner and said

1250
01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:34.439
<v Speaker 8>that he faced a lot of these issues as an

1251
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:37.800
<v Speaker 8>NFL owner. Sure, And I think that if Tony Khan

1252
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:41.720
<v Speaker 8>were to say that out loud, Hey, I'm a brown

1253
01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:46.439
<v Speaker 8>guy in this industry doing this, making these strides where

1254
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:49.800
<v Speaker 8>no one else has, people would immediately point at him

1255
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:52.520
<v Speaker 8>and go, oh, you're just like your dad. You're just

1256
01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:55.920
<v Speaker 8>like you said we were, we said you were. And

1257
01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:59.800
<v Speaker 8>I can't help but think that that does play into

1258
01:09:59.880 --> 01:10:00.439
<v Speaker 8>it to some.

1259
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:06.960
<v Speaker 7>Degree to challenge the great and mighty W W.

1260
01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:09.840
<v Speaker 6>E and Vince bickmahon and all them as for people

1261
01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:12.319
<v Speaker 6>hate him because he dared challenge them.

1262
01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I could kind of see it though,

1263
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:23.199
<v Speaker 2>because the image of promoters predominantly have been, you know,

1264
01:10:23.399 --> 01:10:28.079
<v Speaker 2>guys like Cornett, guys like Bischoff, guys like Brusso, guys

1265
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:31.760
<v Speaker 2>like making all of the McMahon's Hunterley, they all follow

1266
01:10:31.880 --> 01:10:34.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a character model, and Tony kin is

1267
01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:38.119
<v Speaker 2>nothing like that. And he's energetic, and he's bouncy, and

1268
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:41.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, I believe sudden he's the.

1269
01:10:41.399 --> 01:10:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like he talked about amusing his dad's money. His

1270
01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:49.800
<v Speaker 3>dad owns the Jaguars. Tony Kahn, I believe owns. Fulham

1271
01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:54.600
<v Speaker 3>is one of the most one of the most, highly

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01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:59.199
<v Speaker 3>prestigious and worth a lot of damn money. He and

1273
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:01.119
<v Speaker 3>by it with his has money butt with his own

1274
01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:02.920
<v Speaker 3>so you know they can sit there and go well,

1275
01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:04.880
<v Speaker 3>using his dad, there's money to do all this. He's

1276
01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:08.279
<v Speaker 3>not I mean seriously, he said in the past that

1277
01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:11.239
<v Speaker 3>his dad has nothing to do with aw.

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01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:16.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, ill things are true. I don't think I can

1279
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:18.760
<v Speaker 5>discredit what Nott's saying. I'm certain there is a portion

1280
01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:22.840
<v Speaker 5>of the fandom who hates him just because of where

1281
01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:25.880
<v Speaker 5>they think he's family's from and they don't like that area.

1282
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:29.520
<v Speaker 5>There's a portion of folks who subconsciously feel that way

1283
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:31.239
<v Speaker 5>but don't know how to articulate it, so they come

1284
01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:33.199
<v Speaker 5>up with other stuff. I think the majority of people

1285
01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:35.239
<v Speaker 5>hate him are along the lines of what everybody else

1286
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:37.840
<v Speaker 5>is saying. But I don't think we can discredit that

1287
01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:39.800
<v Speaker 5>there is a portion of folks. I'm sure that they

1288
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:40.880
<v Speaker 5>do have a problem with that.

1289
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:44.920
<v Speaker 1>He's unfortunate, but I'm sure it is, you know, I

1290
01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:46.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think there's any question. But I think that there's

1291
01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:49.880
<v Speaker 1>more people that dislike Tony Kof does his favorite movies time.

1292
01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right because he's a brown guy.

1293
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of this and I

1294
01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:57.680
<v Speaker 2>know this is like beating a dead horse on these

1295
01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:02.359
<v Speaker 2>podcasts conversation, but you know the toxicity in pro wrestling

1296
01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:05.800
<v Speaker 2>tribalism and how people have been conditioned to only follow

1297
01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:08.960
<v Speaker 2>one brand for thirty plus years and they're so desensitized

1298
01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:12.119
<v Speaker 2>to anything outside of it that they'll listen to anything

1299
01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:15.199
<v Speaker 2>the FED tells them is real wrestling as opposed to not.

1300
01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:17.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you have people that are on the forums

1301
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:22.479
<v Speaker 2>for WWE just did that. We're crying about Rick ashe

1302
01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:26.159
<v Speaker 2>like just an example, crying about Ricochet leaving, like, oh

1303
01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Speaker 2>he's gone, But as soon as they find out that

1304
01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:30.079
<v Speaker 2>he's with AW, oh, well he's just going to play

1305
01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:33.359
<v Speaker 2>gymnastics with his japan friends. Like, who cares what he's doing.

1306
01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:37.159
<v Speaker 2>He's collecting a paycheck and performing for your entertainment. If

1307
01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:40.319
<v Speaker 2>you don't like it, don't watch it. AW survive without you,

1308
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:41.319
<v Speaker 2>just shut the hell up.

1309
01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I think, Shane, I do want to address this because

1310
01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:46.840
<v Speaker 1>we actually had a topic about this on the aw

1311
01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:50.159
<v Speaker 1>PAN Subreditor earlier today, and I will say this, I

1312
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:53.600
<v Speaker 1>think that it comes down to you, especially on places

1313
01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:59.359
<v Speaker 1>like reddit where moderators do have a semblance of control.

1314
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:05.119
<v Speaker 1>It's all about the culture that's built. Something you got

1315
01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to new buddy, Yes, there you go, thank you. It's

1316
01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:18.520
<v Speaker 1>all about the culture that's built. Look, I also am

1317
01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the top mod at Greatness of Wrestling, which is predominantly

1318
01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:29.800
<v Speaker 1>a WWE subreddit, but we also talk about a w

1319
01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:36.840
<v Speaker 1>New Japan stardom. Everything in d's everything, and frankly, there's

1320
01:13:37.079 --> 01:13:44.520
<v Speaker 1>not anything going on there where we have the tribalism

1321
01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that you see in other places. Why because when we

1322
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:51.880
<v Speaker 1>took over Greatness of Wrestling, we made a point of

1323
01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:56.479
<v Speaker 1>saying it's not accepted, and after an initial period where

1324
01:13:56.560 --> 01:14:01.760
<v Speaker 1>people tested the waters, they figured out, hey, it's not accepted.

1325
01:14:02.159 --> 01:14:06.319
<v Speaker 1>So nobody really talks about it that much. Nobody gets

1326
01:14:06.359 --> 01:14:11.720
<v Speaker 1>tribalistic when Ricochet, as Shane Shane has an example, Yes, Shane,

1327
01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:15.079
<v Speaker 1>you're right, people said that, But there are places where

1328
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:19.600
<v Speaker 1>they said we wish him luck. When when somebody from

1329
01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:24.319
<v Speaker 1>a w went like Ethan Page and Jade Cargill, well

1330
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:29.039
<v Speaker 1>maybe not Jake Cargo, but went to because Jake Cargo

1331
01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:32.039
<v Speaker 1>was not liked by AW fans very much, that was

1332
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:35.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty apparent. But when Ethan Page went to n XT

1333
01:14:36.119 --> 01:14:41.680
<v Speaker 1>in w w E. I didn't see anybody saying, oh,

1334
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:46.880
<v Speaker 1>he's a failure and all he's gonna suck people. He's like,

1335
01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:49.520
<v Speaker 1>people are like, oh, man, we wish we wish him

1336
01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:51.319
<v Speaker 1>the best. We hope he does so well there. I

1337
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:53.640
<v Speaker 1>can see him with a with a belt soon and

1338
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:56.960
<v Speaker 1>things like that. It should be about that's what he

1339
01:14:56.960 --> 01:15:00.720
<v Speaker 1>should be about. Yeah.

1340
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:02.960
<v Speaker 5>Man, I was just happy to see him on TV again.

1341
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:05.000
<v Speaker 5>He's great and like I feel the same way about

1342
01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:07.840
<v Speaker 5>Ricky Starks. Hey, it's not working on aw Hopefully if

1343
01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:10.520
<v Speaker 5>he goes to the FED that they got the right

1344
01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:12.119
<v Speaker 5>thing and it works out. Like, I just want to

1345
01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:13.119
<v Speaker 5>see these people on TV.

1346
01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:14.680
<v Speaker 4>Man, I just want to see on TV.

1347
01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I say, Ricky Starks and maybe Rollins is going

1348
01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:21.600
<v Speaker 2>to try to pop back in here again. No, just

1349
01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:26.399
<v Speaker 2>the the Dirt Sheets are like last year. I always

1350
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:29.159
<v Speaker 2>had this ideology that the Dirt Sheets were the new

1351
01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:31.439
<v Speaker 2>k FABE, and I think that's a lot of the

1352
01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:34.239
<v Speaker 2>problem is people are so quick to go to their

1353
01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:36.880
<v Speaker 2>own little corner of the Internet to gather news from

1354
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:40.840
<v Speaker 2>sources that are mostly not credible, you know, and even

1355
01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the ones that are of lean in one direction or

1356
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:47.159
<v Speaker 2>the other you know, you know, cultaholic, what culture are

1357
01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:51.199
<v Speaker 2>all of them? You know, like it's it's true. I mean,

1358
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:53.760
<v Speaker 2>like I watched a video today What Culture that twenty

1359
01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:57.359
<v Speaker 2>five worst moments of pro wrestling this year, and like

1360
01:15:57.720 --> 01:16:00.199
<v Speaker 2>over half of them were aw moments when I could

1361
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:04.000
<v Speaker 2>have thought about twenty botches, twenty bad matches, twenty bad

1362
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:07.079
<v Speaker 2>character arcs and WWE that could have very easily trumped

1363
01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:09.439
<v Speaker 2>anything that was going on that list, or things from

1364
01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:12.079
<v Speaker 2>DNA or things from I mean, it's just you know,

1365
01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:14.279
<v Speaker 2>like I said, you know, pick aper, like if it's

1366
01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:18.119
<v Speaker 2>a matter of just not taking in the media. You know,

1367
01:16:18.520 --> 01:16:20.800
<v Speaker 2>if you have one particular flavor, you know, you like

1368
01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:23.000
<v Speaker 2>chocolate with you like chocolate, that's cool. You like vanilla,

1369
01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:24.880
<v Speaker 2>that's cool. You like the squirrel cones that's sweet too,

1370
01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I said, Ricky Starks. And here's goddamn wrong.

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01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:31.079
<v Speaker 4>I don't know where we're at.

1372
01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:37.840
<v Speaker 6>Many see I went, I mentioned h DIR sheets in

1373
01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:40.760
<v Speaker 6>it and earlier for a topic, and I want to

1374
01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:44.159
<v Speaker 6>hit on something real quick that with the whole Tony Khan,

1375
01:16:44.279 --> 01:16:48.479
<v Speaker 6>I could never see Fightful doing to Tony Kahan, to

1376
01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:51.479
<v Speaker 6>WWE what they did to Tony Khan with Ricky Stark

1377
01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:54.239
<v Speaker 6>saying of demanding he be on TV and stuff, and

1378
01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:57.239
<v Speaker 6>that absolutely that just blew me away, Like shut up.

1379
01:16:57.239 --> 01:16:59.079
<v Speaker 6>I don't like Sean ross Stapp as a person in

1380
01:16:59.079 --> 01:16:59.880
<v Speaker 6>his personality.

1381
01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:00.760
<v Speaker 7>I don't.

1382
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:02.960
<v Speaker 6>You know, three of them got on there and did that,

1383
01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:05.720
<v Speaker 6>and that's bogus to do to a promoter who you

1384
01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:07.800
<v Speaker 6>literally make your living off of.

1385
01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:10.119
<v Speaker 7>One for him, you would be making a whole lot

1386
01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:12.880
<v Speaker 7>less money. So that's.

1387
01:17:16.840 --> 01:17:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay to be fair here, and I'm not I'm not

1388
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:23.079
<v Speaker 1>justifying this at all, but as somebody who you know

1389
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:27.119
<v Speaker 1>is very active in trying to come up with something

1390
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:31.039
<v Speaker 1>to post about on Discord and Blue Sky and Reddit,

1391
01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:37.600
<v Speaker 1>there are sometimes there are just slow weeks where nothing

1392
01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:40.680
<v Speaker 1>is happening and you got to come up with something.

1393
01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:43.239
<v Speaker 6>You know you do. You have to come up with something,

1394
01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:46.720
<v Speaker 6>and you know you can run the storyline, but to

1395
01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:49.840
<v Speaker 6>post on there to three different people to post on your.

1396
01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:54.399
<v Speaker 7>You know you're blue, that's.

1397
01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:57.600
<v Speaker 5>Just how they are. Man Like the guys wrestling talk

1398
01:17:57.680 --> 01:17:59.640
<v Speaker 5>about it all the time too. Why aren't they using

1399
01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:00.840
<v Speaker 5>Ricky starts or whatever.

1400
01:18:01.039 --> 01:18:08.840
<v Speaker 1>That's just that's just what I ad because I have

1401
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:09.640
<v Speaker 1>something to say.

1402
01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:12.319
<v Speaker 3>I think Ray Phoenix said it best if you read

1403
01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:15.560
<v Speaker 3>the thing that he his thing that he said, you

1404
01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:19.680
<v Speaker 3>don't know everything that's going on, don't start ship, you

1405
01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:22.439
<v Speaker 3>don't talk about let it go until you know everything.

1406
01:18:22.600 --> 01:18:24.720
<v Speaker 3>You don't and you won't and you can. You just

1407
01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:28.119
<v Speaker 3>make yourself look stupid if you post that kind of stuff.

1408
01:18:28.399 --> 01:18:30.479
<v Speaker 3>The good thing about it is Tony didn't cave in

1409
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:32.039
<v Speaker 3>and go, well, we're gonna put him on TV now,

1410
01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:34.520
<v Speaker 3>so they can run their mouths all they want to

1411
01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:37.720
<v Speaker 3>and they can demand it. In the end, it just

1412
01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:38.960
<v Speaker 3>makes them look like idiots.

1413
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Well here's here's what I was gonna say. Look, we

1414
01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:46.760
<v Speaker 1>do a podcast twice a week, and we've come up

1415
01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:51.880
<v Speaker 1>with some of the most outlandish things that you could

1416
01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:56.000
<v Speaker 1>possibly say. And frankly, you know, I said some things

1417
01:18:56.119 --> 01:19:01.840
<v Speaker 1>about Eddie Kingston Sutton. You hate everybody but Chris Statlander

1418
01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and the women's division.

1419
01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:07.239
<v Speaker 3>That's true. I hate two people, specifically.

1420
01:19:08.479 --> 01:19:08.520
<v Speaker 2>You.

1421
01:19:09.640 --> 01:19:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I think you need to go back and listen to

1422
01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:15.720
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. You say nice things about Chris Statlander and

1423
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:18.520
<v Speaker 1>bad things about everybody else. I've never heard you say

1424
01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:23.439
<v Speaker 1>anything nice about any other woman but Chris Statlander, period. Sorry,

1425
01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:25.960
<v Speaker 1>it's the truth, just like you've never heard me say

1426
01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:29.600
<v Speaker 1>anything nice about Eddie Kingston except for that. Oh here

1427
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:34.840
<v Speaker 1>we go for what I'm saying. What I'm saying is

1428
01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:40.439
<v Speaker 1>is that look, if you're going to point fingers quite

1429
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:43.760
<v Speaker 1>about yourself too, expect now.

1430
01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:45.960
<v Speaker 7>And be all and al.

1431
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:48.439
<v Speaker 6>I respect Tony Connan what he's done for the industry

1432
01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:51.840
<v Speaker 6>and stuff like that. I'm you know, I can say it,

1433
01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:54.399
<v Speaker 6>but I don't have the platform that they do, and

1434
01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:56.239
<v Speaker 6>you know, people aren't coming to me for my news,

1435
01:19:57.079 --> 01:19:59.720
<v Speaker 6>and they need to be held to a higher standard.

1436
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.279
<v Speaker 6>If they're gonna be called quote unquote journalists, then they

1437
01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:05.439
<v Speaker 6>need to be treat a life journalists. What they do

1438
01:20:05.600 --> 01:20:06.560
<v Speaker 6>is yellow journalism.

1439
01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:08.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, I agree.

1440
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:11.399
<v Speaker 2>I agree with what you're saying. They have a responsibility

1441
01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:16.520
<v Speaker 2>as reporters to you know, convey the most honest and accurate,

1442
01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:20.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, information that they're gathering. That I mean again,

1443
01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:24.840
<v Speaker 2>like it's that's a the microcosm of a much bigger

1444
01:20:24.880 --> 01:20:27.279
<v Speaker 2>issue in our country as a whole. I mean, it's

1445
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:30.199
<v Speaker 2>just if we just want to like laser focusing on

1446
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:33.359
<v Speaker 2>professional wrestling, I don't think it's stopping anytime soon. Now

1447
01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:35.199
<v Speaker 2>that there's a second FED, it's not gonna happen.

1448
01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, you don't what, Shane, and I'm going to say

1449
01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:43.000
<v Speaker 1>this too. When you're somebody like what Culture, fight Full

1450
01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:48.319
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, Busted Open Radio, whatever, whatever you're doing, you're

1451
01:20:48.359 --> 01:20:51.680
<v Speaker 1>also competing with the blue check marks on Twitter. There

1452
01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:53.720
<v Speaker 1>are people on Twitter that went out and bought a

1453
01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:57.920
<v Speaker 1>blue check mark money monetize their posts, and then they

1454
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:02.079
<v Speaker 1>just post the dumbest it that you can possibly post.

1455
01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I have lost so much respect for people that I

1456
01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:09.720
<v Speaker 1>used to follow and talk to on Twitter who bottom

1457
01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:13.720
<v Speaker 1>blue check mark and then they completely turned into absolute

1458
01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:18.920
<v Speaker 1>shit posters. There's no other way to put it. And look,

1459
01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:22.880
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about fight Phone, you know, Sean Ross app,

1460
01:21:23.319 --> 01:21:25.840
<v Speaker 1>this is their livelihood and they can only go by

1461
01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:29.520
<v Speaker 1>their sources, and their sources are often people that are unnamed,

1462
01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:32.800
<v Speaker 1>that are backstage at these shows, that observe stuff, and

1463
01:21:32.920 --> 01:21:36.680
<v Speaker 1>they're probably fed bad information quite a bit just for

1464
01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:39.479
<v Speaker 1>shits and giggles if you think about it.

1465
01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:41.840
<v Speaker 8>So it is what it is.

1466
01:21:43.119 --> 01:21:45.680
<v Speaker 1>But you've got the when you're doing a podcast or

1467
01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:49.039
<v Speaker 1>where you're doing a website or whatever, you're gonna come

1468
01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:53.479
<v Speaker 1>up with some really weird stuff. You know, I'm sorry

1469
01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:55.960
<v Speaker 1>you are, and I hope that it flies. You're gonna

1470
01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:02.479
<v Speaker 1>make seeing your pants. You're gonna make seen of your pants,

1471
01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:07.880
<v Speaker 1>opinions or whatnot, and sometimes it blows up in your face.

1472
01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:11.239
<v Speaker 1>You do it enough, they cease to exist. Thank you

1473
01:22:11.399 --> 01:22:16.760
<v Speaker 1>for listening. Be sure to tune in on December twelfth

1474
01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:21.560
<v Speaker 1>when Shane will be interviewing doctor David Reese, the staff

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<v Speaker 1>psychiatrist for All Lea Wrestling, and you can join in

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<v Speaker 1>as a listener live right here on discord. And again

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<v Speaker 1>we will be putting our discord link in the description

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<v Speaker 1>of this podcast, so be sure to visit us, join

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<v Speaker 1>our discord, have some fun. Got quite an active discord,

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<v Speaker 1>so come and have some fun with us. So for

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<v Speaker 1>the AAW Fan podcast team, this is Kelson. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you tomorrow night or I'll lea talk where we review

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<v Speaker 1>AW Dynamite. Got quite a card. I think we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot to discuss. Good night, everybody, Eddie.

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<v Speaker 2>Kingston for two time Triple Crown Champion when he comes back.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night.

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<v Speaker 1>I met it, but I think de thren monks, he

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<v Speaker 1>knocked her right off the toilet.