Speaker 1: This could give me fire podcasts. What up on Gizzo?
Speaker 1: That is John Magic and we are back.
Speaker 2: From a Fresno rapper turned global hip hop stars. Some
Speaker 2: highlights that we remember. He was on the cover of
Speaker 2: Double Xcel magazine from the top ten Freshman hip Hop
Speaker 2: What was it? The top ten Freshman of twenty ten?
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Then he signed with NAS's label Mass Appeal in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: One of you know the album that kind of is
Speaker 2: it fair to say put him on the map? Boy
Speaker 2: meets World?
Speaker 3: I think that's fair.
Speaker 2: Is fair and a good friend of ours. Man, It's
Speaker 2: kind of making me feel old because I remember when
Speaker 2: we first met him as a kid. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Fast Sean is in here.
Speaker 3: Man, it's been a minute for having me. Yeah. Never
Speaker 3: got to say this in the studio, but I'm glad
Speaker 3: to fucking be here. You know.
Speaker 2: Usually Jizo and I have like this, you know, we
Speaker 2: have something planned out of like what we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about, but we're like, man, there's all these YouTube
Speaker 2: videos interviews of how Fast started and also you got
Speaker 2: We kind of just wanted to catch up because we
Speaker 2: haven't seen you in years.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've been here my entire career. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I mean fash Homegrown. Before we jumped on this pod,
Speaker 1: I was telling him, like, you know, I've interviewed him
Speaker 1: over the years plenty of times on the radio from
Speaker 1: every project he had, every album, single, whatever, And I
Speaker 1: was like, this is the first time we have you
Speaker 1: on a pod and we could just kind of let
Speaker 1: loose and converse, say and don't have to be political
Speaker 1: about it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking for some stories we've never heard before.
Speaker 3: We had it up.
Speaker 2: We had we had Hectic in one of the episodes,
Speaker 2: and he was telling us some stories about you in
Speaker 2: La and like, so we.
Speaker 3: Didn't tell you to hope, we didn't tell you the
Speaker 3: other stories.
Speaker 1: It was all you didn't go to parties.
Speaker 3: Oh man. We did have a good time in Hollywood,
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 2: So we could start with this. I remember I was
Speaker 2: barely a few months into living in Fresno, maybe under
Speaker 2: a year, and then he I meet Hectic. He brings
Speaker 2: you as a kid to interview for this show I
Speaker 2: was doing Homegrown. Do you remember how old you were
Speaker 2: when I first met you? Because I've been in Fresno
Speaker 2: for over twenty years, I.
Speaker 3: Do remember I was sixteen years old. Damn sixteen sixteen, Wow,
Speaker 3: what year? Do you know what year that was? It's
Speaker 3: been six o seven.
Speaker 2: That's about right, because I came here.
Speaker 1: I came here five, so I would have been like
Speaker 1: here for maybe two years at that point.
Speaker 3: First mixtape time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think I've mentioned this to
Speaker 2: you before, you know, because we've become friends through the years,
Speaker 2: and I've said it probably in interviews where the first
Speaker 2: time I met Fash, you just knew he had like
Speaker 2: the it factor. Yeah, Like there was something about him
Speaker 2: as a sixteen year old. I was like, this kid's
Speaker 2: gonna make it. I told Hectic that this kid's gonna
Speaker 2: make it somehow. And then Magic spoke and then boom,
Speaker 2: we just we saw you. We witnessed you grow up
Speaker 2: and do all these big things.
Speaker 3: I learned from Sway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does say that. By the way, you just
Speaker 2: being on Sway in the morning on series.
Speaker 3: Wow, you know what shout to Sway. But I'm here
Speaker 3: with Magic and gisel Man.
Speaker 2: Y'all.
Speaker 3: You guys are like my icons and idols growing up
Speaker 3: so and just being able to listen to all every
Speaker 3: day on the radio, and yeah, just to know you
Speaker 3: guys personally. You know, it's a beautiful thing, man, So
Speaker 3: good guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's been dope to see you
Speaker 1: as like, you know, a Fresno kid representing you know,
Speaker 1: a friend of the radio station, a friend of ours,
Speaker 1: and to see you, you know, like with the Sways
Speaker 1: of the World's or the Snoop dogs and all the
Speaker 1: coat signs that you've gotten over the years.
Speaker 3: Very blessed. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: And I guess my question is, like, you know, when
Speaker 1: you look back on your career to this point, I mean,
Speaker 1: how does it feel, man? Is this something that you
Speaker 1: would have ever imagined this far that you would have
Speaker 1: taken it?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely man, because I've always had that that
Speaker 3: type of confidence. I've always had that confidence in myself
Speaker 3: almost like a like an unwavering like belief for myself.
Speaker 3: You know, since since you met me, since I was
Speaker 3: a kid, I've always knew that I was gonna leave
Speaker 3: my name, leave an imprint on and leave a print
Speaker 3: in this game. So but yeah, and I'm still doing it.
Speaker 3: I didn't think i'd still be doing it. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean I thought I was going to dip out after
Speaker 3: boy Mean's World or maybe the collogy, but still in traffic,
Speaker 3: you know, bumping into cars.
Speaker 1: Is there something that you know when you look back
Speaker 1: at being a rapper? Is there a time where you think, like,
Speaker 1: what would I be doing if I wasn't doing this?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Or is it just like you really can't see myself
Speaker 1: doing anything else.
Speaker 3: I've been doing this for probably half of my life. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean half my life. So I probably got more
Speaker 3: years in the game than I got out of it,
Speaker 3: you know. Shit, So I can't couldn't picture anything else.
Speaker 3: But I've dreamed of doing other things, other things, like
Speaker 3: like I wanted to write for the Fresnel b at
Speaker 3: one point. Really, yeah, when I was younger, you know,
Speaker 3: because I always had a knack for writings. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: just translated more on a mic with rapping. But yeah,
Speaker 3: i'd have a like a yeah, probably writing, be writing
Speaker 3: Hallmark cards or something like, yeah, something something with riding ryding, scriptwriter,
Speaker 3: or like I'd be executive producing a movie or directing something,
Speaker 3: or or writing a character or something.
Speaker 2: Something I want to know from the mindset.
Speaker 3: Speaking of movie, shout out to Gurly City Boys out
Speaker 3: right now on Amazon Prime and to be in everywhere.
Speaker 3: Are you in that. No, I just executive produced it.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, wait, what is that about. Yeah, let's talk
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: Girly City Boys, a movie directed by Otis Reid, went
Speaker 3: from you know, Grizzly Gang all Day and yeah, we
Speaker 3: put together this coming of age film about you know,
Speaker 3: it's loosely based on my life, but it's not really
Speaker 3: about me. It's really just about you know, the experience
Speaker 3: of growing up in Gooley City. So and that's on
Speaker 3: Amazon Prime right now, and I'm not in it unfortunately. Okay,
Speaker 3: but you got the prod. My presence is felt. I did.
Speaker 3: I did some writing for characters and yeah, and I
Speaker 3: actually picked the I hand picked the main character, Santana.
Speaker 2: So didn't you guys do it? There was like a
Speaker 2: screening for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did a propable. We did one recently at
Speaker 3: at some casino.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I saw a post of that.
Speaker 3: Okay, good time.
Speaker 2: So the question I was gonna ask, going back to
Speaker 2: when we first met you sixteen years old, you're gonna
Speaker 2: get interviewed on the radio, was the mindset wanting to
Speaker 2: be this commercial? Because is it fair to say you
Speaker 2: didn't turn into a commercial hip hop star? You you
Speaker 2: have like this lane that you're in. But during that time,
Speaker 2: did you want to be one of the one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course I wanted to be uh who was
Speaker 3: out of that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted to be
Speaker 3: Ja Kwan, you know what I mean. Jac wasn't out yet,
Speaker 3: so I wanted to be Jaquan and uh or like
Speaker 3: bow wow something like that. I wanted to be like
Speaker 3: an arena act something like that. But I didn't know
Speaker 3: nothing about led lights and Pyro and like having a
Speaker 3: tour with trucks and like, I didn't have that type
Speaker 3: of monetary support coming out the gate. You know it's
Speaker 3: coming from Fresno. So I just told myself, I got
Speaker 3: to really just depend on this thing right here, this
Speaker 3: this microphone, and hopefully, you know, my voice will resonate
Speaker 3: throughout the world. But yeah, and luckily it did. Fortunately,
Speaker 3: you know, for me.
Speaker 2: In your opinion, who was the moment that you're like, whoa, Okay,
Speaker 2: my life's about to change.
Speaker 3: I guess meeting meeting nas, just going to fly fly
Speaker 3: out to meet him and discuss that the record deal
Speaker 3: and what we're gonna do moving forward. Discussing the ecology,
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, what things are going to
Speaker 3: be different after this, you know, even if not from
Speaker 3: a financial aspect. I know, like my respect is going
Speaker 3: to go up, you know, just throughout the whole entire community,
Speaker 3: just by me, just by having an endorsement like that,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And yeah, that was one moment.
Speaker 3: But I guess doctor Dre too. Just Dra invited me out.
Speaker 3: And when I was like maybe twenty years old.
Speaker 2: Twenty one years old, Yeah, what's a Dre story.
Speaker 3: It's a guy named Brock right, Brock Courson who used
Speaker 3: to manage EV when I think he's Kendrick's like A
Speaker 3: and R now something like that. But man Brock uh
Speaker 3: took me to Dres spot because yeah, he was the
Speaker 3: only person who really knew me in LA at the time,
Speaker 3: and Dre was looking for me. Dre was looking for me,
Speaker 3: so Brock was like, yeah, no fast, he lives with evidence.
Speaker 3: He lives at EV's crib and you know, and V
Speaker 3: would always go to Europe and leave me at the
Speaker 3: crib by myself. So I'd either skate to Alchemi's house
Speaker 3: and make music or I just go Echo Park fuck
Speaker 3: with exile. But but yeah, one day Brock came by.
Speaker 3: He was like, yo, you know Dre want to rock
Speaker 3: with you. I'm like, I'm like, you're lying, but that's
Speaker 3: a joke, right. He was like, Noah, seriously, like Dre
Speaker 3: wants you to come through work on detox, which probably
Speaker 3: might never but so yeah, he ended up making the connection.
Speaker 3: I ended up coming back to Fresno. I forgot about it.
Speaker 3: I said, Man, this nigga was lying him anyway. I
Speaker 3: didn't believe him anyway. So yeah, yeah, Dre reached out.
Speaker 3: He reached out to Hectic and he said, do you
Speaker 3: guys want to get flu out here? You guys want
Speaker 3: to drive? And you know what Hectic said, he said,
Speaker 3: we'll drive. I'm like, man, if you better stop playing,
Speaker 3: that would have been my first flight. Yeah, it would
Speaker 3: have been my first ever. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was helling me. I was tight with Hectic for years.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, we could have flew first class. They
Speaker 3: had us up with the Hilton, all types of shit,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I want to h work with Dre at
Speaker 3: the Encore Studios in LA and worked there for about
Speaker 3: almost a week.
Speaker 2: When you say work, what's the work.
Speaker 3: Is being in there from five pm to five a m.
Speaker 3: You know, writing, writing, writing, writing writing, Uh, vocals, vocals,
Speaker 3: vocals that you guys put anything together. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, there's a single from t I that
Speaker 3: Doctor Dre played me years before, like in that session,
Speaker 3: and it's a song called Dope or something with the
Speaker 3: Lea sample. It was like, I'm on dope and yeah,
Speaker 3: he played that for me, man, And this was a
Speaker 3: moment that I knew that I just knew I was
Speaker 3: right where I needed to be right. He plays me
Speaker 3: this record. First, he tells me he's not going to
Speaker 3: play it for me. He's like, yo, like I can
Speaker 3: play this. Ithing like, man, you had to play that
Speaker 3: for me. He was like sure. I'm like, yes, I'm
Speaker 3: sure playing for me. So he plays it for me
Speaker 3: and and I hear that the song, I hear that
Speaker 3: Leah sample. I'm like, all right, this is going somewhere special.
Speaker 3: And then I hear jay Z's voice just flying. Man.
Speaker 3: I'm like and I look at Dre like and he
Speaker 3: was like yeah, keep looking at me, like yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: like you're you're in the big leagues now, right. So
Speaker 3: he presses stop and he's like, you think you can
Speaker 3: write something better than that? I said no, I was
Speaker 3: so honest.
Speaker 2: That's a turn.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was so honest though. I was so honest
Speaker 3: and he respected it. But uh yeah I could have
Speaker 3: had that. That could have been my number one, you know.
Speaker 3: But shout out to t shou out to jay Z,
Speaker 3: because only if y'all can hear what jay Z said
Speaker 3: on this ship. Yeah, oh my god, I'm like, that's
Speaker 3: how I know. I'm like, Dre, You're crazy. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you don't think that's fire, you are crazy.
Speaker 2: I was just about to ask, I don't remember that
Speaker 2: song ever getting released or anything, because.
Speaker 3: The TI version came out, the did come out, and
Speaker 3: but yeah, I wish I had that jay Z version.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jay's one of my favorites.
Speaker 3: Are you still with Massive Pill? I'm still Massive Pill family?
Speaker 3: I mean contractually you know that contract expired and uh yeah,
Speaker 3: but I'm still out here moving and still working with them.
Speaker 3: But I'm not, yeah, not like exclusively just working with them.
Speaker 3: I know you brought up Kendrick.
Speaker 1: Did you guys ever like get something together or you know,
Speaker 1: want to work together?
Speaker 3: Yeah? We worked together on a couple of different different places,
Speaker 3: but never like on a on a record. Yeah. I
Speaker 3: met him at the Double XL photo shoot. That's where
Speaker 3: I met him at and yeah, we've just been cool
Speaker 3: ever since then. But I ran into him and Czechoslovakia.
Speaker 3: I ran into him in the Czech Republic. I guess
Speaker 3: you're supposed to call it. And yeah, this is the
Speaker 3: week he dropped the control verse the first Uh, this
Speaker 3: is before for not like us. This is like when
Speaker 3: you first started going on his tirades and so yeah,
Speaker 3: and everybody thought that he was you know, I thought
Speaker 3: he was dising people, even if you didn't put his
Speaker 3: name like him came in his song, he's like yo,
Speaker 3: like you know. And so I saw him and he's
Speaker 3: on stage rocking Good Kid Mad City, the title track
Speaker 3: of his album, and he looks over at me. He's like,
Speaker 3: oo fast, you want to you want to get some
Speaker 3: of this? I'm like it's just him and his band
Speaker 3: and I'm like yeah, And he let me rock over
Speaker 3: that in front of thousands of people in Czech Republic.
Speaker 3: But he saw me threw up the dub like he
Speaker 3: was like I know what it is. Yeah, and uh yeah,
Speaker 3: but he did the same ship to me at Resno Fairgrounds. No, yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember that. Yeah, yeah we were there at that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like me and do me and Dot is cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How did you feel about the Drake and Kendrick back
Speaker 1: and forth or just that type of stuff in general?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's a win for hip hop?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like, you know it's bad for hip
Speaker 1: hop because it can escalated things or what's your take
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 3: I stand with Jake Cole. I stand with j Cole.
Speaker 3: I'm about peace and about unity, and because jac kind
Speaker 3: of took herself out of that, it was like, you
Speaker 3: know what, I'm not gonna feed into that and like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like now you can just catch him ride his bike
Speaker 3: around like like being a normal person. I respect that,
Speaker 3: and I respect that like immensely. But I have to
Speaker 3: say this, though it was entertaining. It was entertaining for
Speaker 3: the culture. Now we needed a big, a good heavyweight
Speaker 3: about and it was two respectable heavyweights to me, you know. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was a good It was a good fight. I
Speaker 3: have to give it to Dot though. I have to
Speaker 3: give it to Dot, not just because I'm from the
Speaker 3: West Coast, just from a you know, I've seen a
Speaker 3: lot of battles on hip hop, and you know, I've
Speaker 3: never seen nothing like that, man, especially the amount of
Speaker 3: music and it's just the just the level of the
Speaker 3: delivery and how they came through was really good. I
Speaker 3: mean he got a huge single out of it, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like that's way bigger than takeover Ether. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like calling out names, that's like an actual hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not to mention you know what he did when
Speaker 1: he performed of that to pop out and just that
Speaker 1: whole everything for the culture, it was just yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it was dope, so shot to k do I
Speaker 1: know you brought up J Cole and that's your man's
Speaker 1: and and you guys were on the cover together for
Speaker 1: Double Excel. You know, Wiz was on that big Sean Nipsey.
Speaker 1: It's crazy that. I mean, to this day, I always
Speaker 1: say that was like the best class. I mean, those guys,
Speaker 1: everybody's still doing it to this day. And do you
Speaker 1: still keep in contact with any of those guys? I
Speaker 1: know you you and Wiz were pretty close.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just spoke to the Cold yesterday, Okay, the
Speaker 3: Cold yesterday. I told him I'm glad he's making beats again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people kind of forget about that
Speaker 1: or that he's really big on that.
Speaker 3: The best producers of my generation saying a lot of
Speaker 3: people don't give them that. You know that it's props,
Speaker 3: but it's propers. But yeah, I spoke to Cold the
Speaker 3: other day. I suppose the Gibbs Freddie Gibbs other day. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't get to run into a lot of cats
Speaker 3: like that because you know, we all doing trajectories. Took
Speaker 3: us in different places for sure, But yeah, shout out
Speaker 3: to Wiz though. I think last time I saw Wiz
Speaker 3: was in It's overseas in Germany. We did the show.
Speaker 3: I think it was the week like Manchester one World
Speaker 3: Cup or some ship. That was like the last time
Speaker 3: I saw him. And yeah, man, other than that, spoke
Speaker 3: to Big Sean the other day. He dropped the album.
Speaker 3: If you heard it, please go listen to that. But yeah, man,
Speaker 3: I'll be I'll be in my own zone.
Speaker 2: Are you jaded with the amount of people you've been around,
Speaker 2: the people you've worked with, the people that you've just
Speaker 2: networked with. These are some big names that we're dropping
Speaker 2: right now. Is it? Are you still starstruckt or He's
Speaker 2: just like, nah, these these are homies, homies.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not starstruck anymore. Okay, not anymore, because these
Speaker 3: are not just the homies, but they're still Those are
Speaker 3: my peers and fellow warriors and this hip hop shit,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like those those are my
Speaker 3: comrades and in this music business and in the culture.
Speaker 2: Most importantly, there's some people that people may not even of.
Speaker 3: These are my aunties and my uncles and like like
Speaker 3: people I look at like father figures. And some of
Speaker 3: these niggas are like my cousins and like brothers in
Speaker 3: the game and hip hop is one big family, and
Speaker 3: I try to bring that energy back.
Speaker 2: There's even some names where I feel like people are
Speaker 2: not familiar with, like the you know, the amount of
Speaker 2: work or well, I'll just say who it is because
Speaker 2: you know, back in my heyday, I used to like
Speaker 2: rip and run around with a baboo of dilated people.
Speaker 2: And you know, you brought up evidence, you brought up
Speaker 2: exile and hip hop like if you know, like these
Speaker 2: are some big Yeah. So how did I never found
Speaker 2: out how you? You were roommates with him or you?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I never told you about that whole story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did that come about?
Speaker 3: I was running around in LA I was making my
Speaker 3: album with Exile. I was making my album with Exile
Speaker 3: at the time wasn't done yet. I was just still running,
Speaker 3: ripping and running the streets of California. And I was
Speaker 3: on my way to Los Angeles with my manager one
Speaker 3: day and I wanted a Verse from Evidence really bad
Speaker 3: for the song called Arway, and I wanted it really bad,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know how to attain this thing right.
Speaker 3: So my manager was like, well, I know Planet Asia
Speaker 3: and Asia knows Evidence. You know, maybe I could make
Speaker 3: a call. I'm like, if you can make that call,
Speaker 3: please make that call. So Hectic calls Asia and it's
Speaker 3: just like fuck that. I'm calling EV now and I'm
Speaker 3: telling them you're on your way right like you like,
Speaker 3: he basically text the address. He was like, just go
Speaker 3: over there, you know what I mean. I don't even
Speaker 3: know if v Knew showed up. I'm here, it's my
Speaker 3: new he's my album I'm working on, Like this up
Speaker 3: you want to hop on something. But but yeah, before
Speaker 3: you know it, I'm in Thev's living room and it's
Speaker 3: just me, him and my manager and we're telling him
Speaker 3: how much a legend he is and how much we
Speaker 3: want him on on the album. He's like, don't call
Speaker 3: me that man. Just play the song, like don't make
Speaker 3: me feel old to play the song and yeah, and
Speaker 3: that was the first time I ever really got to
Speaker 3: build bill with x F and yeah, and then I
Speaker 3: moved in about two months later. Yeah, I guess I
Speaker 3: left an impression on him. He was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: here's the keys to my house. Bro. He was like, yo,
Speaker 3: whatever you need, like you belong to LA now, like
Speaker 3: we got you out here and yeah, and it's been
Speaker 3: love ever since. Man. I just ran into him at
Speaker 3: the at the Memorial Coliseum in l A. We just
Speaker 3: did the show infesting. That was like a family reunion
Speaker 3: because I got to see damn there everybody. We just
Speaker 3: spoke about. You know. I think I even saw miss
Speaker 3: Parker from Friday. Yeah word. Yeah, But anyway, but that's
Speaker 3: how that's that's how the whole connection came about. And yeah,
Speaker 3: just like became like a like a a mentor and
Speaker 3: like a father figure to me, man, And yeah, I
Speaker 3: got ultimate respect for that dude for life. You know. Now,
Speaker 3: you know you came coming from Fresno, but I think
Speaker 3: it was the Planetation phone call that really made pop off.
Speaker 1: Just coming from Fresno. Obviously it's you know, not La.
Speaker 1: It's not New York. It's not a lot of these
Speaker 1: cities that rappers bang. But you've always banged Fresno and
Speaker 1: you let people know. But coming from Fresno and obviously
Speaker 1: you see the difficulties of.
Speaker 3: Being like recognized.
Speaker 1: Is that something that you would that moving to a
Speaker 1: big city is?
Speaker 3: Is that something that you had to do.
Speaker 1: Is it something that you know for somebody that's coming
Speaker 1: up in a smaller city is is that kind of
Speaker 1: the move that needs to be done to kind of
Speaker 1: expose yourself a.
Speaker 3: Little bit more? Yeah? Yeah, I mean you got to
Speaker 3: touch the people, man. Yeah, you have to go out
Speaker 3: and you can't just put a satellite out and just
Speaker 3: expect to connect with everyone.
Speaker 2: What don't you feel like right now?
Speaker 3: You can though with seconically you can, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's like it's only so long. Fake artists could pretend
Speaker 3: and so yeah, you know, fake you know, superstars could pretend.
Speaker 3: It's only so long, and it's it's really about getting
Speaker 3: out and touching the people, man. You know. So I
Speaker 3: had to go to La, New York, et cetera, everywhere
Speaker 3: south to go garner these fans, you know, if they're
Speaker 3: not I mean the market is so saturating. How do
Speaker 3: you expect to win over the average consumer if you
Speaker 3: don't you know, shake the hand, kiss the baby and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and and do and do
Speaker 3: that stuff. Man. So but me moving to l A,
Speaker 3: I really just wanted to brush shoulders with the with
Speaker 3: the with the sharks man, because you know, I always
Speaker 3: felt like a big fish in a small pond being
Speaker 3: from president. Yeah, for sure. I wanted to test my skills,
Speaker 3: so I feel like on a I wanted to test
Speaker 3: them on an Olympic level, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I wanted to go to Europe, Pan and and and
Speaker 3: get busy with the with the best of the best.
Speaker 3: And not only that, but show that Fresno can compete
Speaker 3: with any anybody any market, you know. Yeah, but skill wise,
Speaker 3: not sales wise. Yeah, you know, it's like put our
Speaker 3: products together. It's like, yo, my ship ninety seven percent
Speaker 3: ninety seven percent too. Yeah. Yeah, that's some all to
Speaker 3: white talk, but breaking bad. Yeah yeah, man. Anyway, we
Speaker 3: were in the city of Ice. Anyway, you you.
Speaker 2: Bring up traveling around the world, do you feel like
Speaker 2: hip hop is you know, I'm I don't know the
Speaker 2: answer to this. You lived it. I just feel like
Speaker 2: European countries, Japan, all these other countries out of the
Speaker 2: United States, do they embrace hip hop differently from US
Speaker 2: out here, because it seems like it seems like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think so. I think.
Speaker 2: They just embraced that they have culture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the culture, not just the culture, but the whole
Speaker 3: heritage in the history of fashion that everything, right, culture,
Speaker 3: the elements, the rudiments, everything. They really put an emphasis
Speaker 3: on that. You know, they still use terms like sucking
Speaker 3: MC out. I'm like, you know, where are you right?
Speaker 3: And you can still like you can drive down you
Speaker 3: can drive through Berlin or Colonnas or anywhere in Europe,
Speaker 3: and it's like it looks like what you thought the
Speaker 3: Bronx would look like in the eighties, right, like like
Speaker 3: the graffiti everywhere and like kids rhyming and just actually
Speaker 3: like exuding the culture, right. And but I think they're
Speaker 3: preserving it over there. It's still in a transitional state
Speaker 3: and evolutionary stage in America because it's still constantly evolving
Speaker 3: with the with the new regime that's coming in year
Speaker 3: after year, so still evolving and taking shape. But over
Speaker 3: there they got a really clear view of what they
Speaker 3: think hip hop should be and you know, and the
Speaker 3: message that you should be portraying. And yes, like that's
Speaker 3: why I love it over there, you know. I love
Speaker 3: going over there and I can't wait to go back
Speaker 3: this December. Yeah, it's almost like to have like a
Speaker 3: different respect for it out there. What city or country
Speaker 3: that really shocked you that, like, wow, they really fucking
Speaker 3: with like hip hop and rap? Like was there a
Speaker 3: country that really like threw me off?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's like real quick.
Speaker 2: While you're thinking that, that reminds me of not to like,
Speaker 2: you know, oh, here's where I went, but just because
Speaker 2: well just because you brought because you brought that up.
Speaker 2: Is because when I did the Australian tour as a DJ,
Speaker 2: I was like, they're not gonna know these songs because
Speaker 2: I'm used to DJing here in America and when I
Speaker 2: play a certain song, they're gonna sing to it. But
Speaker 2: I was like they're not. I got nervous, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's what I know, so I'll play it and they
Speaker 2: sang along. So I was like, whoa, what the hell?
Speaker 2: It works out here too? So yeah, was there that
Speaker 2: kind of moment.
Speaker 3: Where I'd have to say Poland. Yeah, as random as
Speaker 3: it is, right, Poland. I think we did a show
Speaker 3: and war song and posing a couple of cities out there,
Speaker 3: but yeah, Poland, it was like and it was the
Speaker 3: smallest days I've ever performed on. It was like, but
Speaker 3: the love was so big. It was like and they
Speaker 3: knew every word and it was like it was just
Speaker 3: like mind blowing to me. And yeah, total culture shock.
Speaker 3: That was the first time I got a culture shock
Speaker 3: for sure. And then I made it beat with exile.
Speaker 3: I said, if you if you see one black person,
Speaker 3: if you see anyone who looks like me, I'll buy
Speaker 3: you breakfast with me landing in La And long story short,
Speaker 3: I didn't have to buy anything. Yeah, but yeah, culture
Speaker 3: shock poem definitely all right.
Speaker 1: So I would just want to do this because everybody
Speaker 1: you know asked this question and it probably changes for
Speaker 1: you all the time. But you know, top five dead
Speaker 1: or alive right now, right now is of all time.
Speaker 3: It's just dead or alive at all time, and no
Speaker 3: particular particular top five Tupac, J Diller, Nate Dog, So
Speaker 3: Far So Good, Pac Dealer Dog, Biggie, and Nipsey. There
Speaker 3: you go. I like that.
Speaker 1: Rest in Peace, Nipsey and also on the on the
Speaker 1: cover as well. Wait all of them gone, oh wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's my top five. We gotta come up
Speaker 3: with you live. Here's my think about that. Damn damn damn.
Speaker 3: Recipes of Rich Home Me Krin by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that just happened to podcast Blessed that brother Soul and
Speaker 3: my condo listens to his family man for sure, but
Speaker 3: alive though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe some artists that you're like really paying attention
Speaker 1: to right now, I'll just say five artists I like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 3: It might have because my top five changes. Yeah. I
Speaker 3: love Doc Doc is ill. She got a new project
Speaker 3: called like Alex something about alligators.
Speaker 2: But she's going to do what is on TV.
Speaker 3: The one that you got the record with Kodak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one right, what it is?
Speaker 3: Okay, love dochi uh love? I actually love young boy
Speaker 3: n be a young boy. Yeah, she's just one of those,
Speaker 3: one of the ones. Tierra Whack, Code of the Friend,
Speaker 3: Corde Corday, Okay, I like it.
Speaker 2: But there's a couple of names. I have no idea
Speaker 2: who they are, but.
Speaker 3: I'm here to you know, I'm here to keep you on,
Speaker 3: you know, up on game Man.
Speaker 2: What about So there's been a lot of talk on.
Speaker 3: These t A the handful. I can't forget that.
Speaker 2: I don't know that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look it up.
Speaker 2: There's there's kind of wanted to see your thoughts on
Speaker 2: this because there's been some blogs and people talking on
Speaker 2: social media about these new female rappers from Ice Spice
Speaker 2: to Megan Uh, Sexy Red.
Speaker 3: That God bless them all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's it goes two ways. There's the fans that
Speaker 2: love the music and then there's the side that's like
Speaker 2: it's they're just doing for the look. Do you have
Speaker 2: any thought on that, Like, not necessarily negative, but.
Speaker 3: Just any thoughts. I got nothing but positive things to
Speaker 3: say about these sisters, man. These are my sisters in
Speaker 3: the culture. So I would never disrespect them or try
Speaker 3: to demor them or bring them down. Yeah. I love
Speaker 3: what they do. And I'm surprised I didn't put none
Speaker 3: of those names in my list because I did mention
Speaker 3: to Female Chi and Tierra Whack. But yeah, I love
Speaker 3: what they do. I think it brings balance. It brings
Speaker 3: balance to like every Sexy Red we need a rhapsoity,
Speaker 3: you know, you know what I mean, every Ice Spice,
Speaker 3: we need a sorak. Yeah, and I think the battles
Speaker 3: is there and I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I kind of feel that this is
Speaker 1: an era of female rappers, right, Like I think they're
Speaker 1: really holding it down.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like, you know, every so oftenlope creatively.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, every so often there's like certain genres or
Speaker 1: of rap or eras of style, and I just feel
Speaker 1: like we're kind of in an era of where the
Speaker 1: ladies is kind of really making noise right now. And
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them. If you think back, just
Speaker 1: maybe like ten years ago, it only felt like it
Speaker 1: was Nicki Minaj and now like all the ones that
Speaker 1: you named and Bea and Glorilla, and there's just shot
Speaker 1: the glow too. Yeah, there's just so many out there.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I'm for it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They're totally They're dope.
Speaker 3: And yeah, she almost got me divorced, messed up. What happened.
Speaker 3: She was in the DMS, we were we were talking
Speaker 3: back and forth, and she decided to send me a
Speaker 3: picture one day right of of something that she didn't
Speaker 3: post on a regular page. Okay, right, And I surely
Speaker 3: saw that, and uh, she felt a way about it. Well,
Speaker 3: you still got that photo. Just listen, man, it's in
Speaker 3: the archives.
Speaker 2: Man, Look, it's in the hidden there's.
Speaker 3: I tried you efk he for that, but nah. But
Speaker 3: as far as like an artist, like she's one of
Speaker 3: my favorite artists and just all around just cool people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually dope to see her kind of like
Speaker 1: come back around because you know, she started off as
Speaker 1: like a real rapper and then she kind of fell
Speaker 1: into that, you know, mainstream pop, and you know she
Speaker 1: got her bags from that. But you know, she came
Speaker 1: back around and she's doing what she's doing.
Speaker 3: So all the females.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Coiler Ray too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's been Zino's daughter. Yeah, which is crazy
Speaker 3: to think about it. She comes from like real hip
Speaker 3: hop like lineage, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 3: wasn't surprised when when she did her thing.
Speaker 2: There's a piece of me where you know, it comes
Speaker 2: around because now I'm getting older and you're like, what
Speaker 2: is this stuff that they're coming with? But I'm still
Speaker 2: a DJ and when I play this at the clubs,
Speaker 2: the energy the crowd gives me. So I'm fucking with it.
Speaker 2: If you're if you're if the crowd is loving it.
Speaker 2: I'm playing these songs regardless of what I think about him.
Speaker 2: But let's go back to Ice Spice, who produces a.
Speaker 3: Lot of Let's go back to her because it's because
Speaker 3: the producer.
Speaker 2: The producer of her beats the son of like New
Speaker 2: York I forgot his name right now. He was he
Speaker 2: was on He was a DJ on Hot ninety seven
Speaker 2: and no, no, another dude, No he was. He was
Speaker 2: a DJ, actual DJ. But I think the producer, right,
Speaker 2: the producer is his son. Yeah, yeah, So like even
Speaker 2: these young.
Speaker 1: Producers and now you're seeing these the kids now are
Speaker 1: starting to become Shout out to Nico.
Speaker 2: DJ enough DJ enough, I think so probably, I mean
Speaker 2: enough if I'm.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, man, Okay, shout to Nico bab Boo
Speaker 3: Son right, Baboo Son is one of the greatest, dopest
Speaker 3: producers out right now his name is Nico, And yeah,
Speaker 3: I saw that kid grow up and now he's just
Speaker 3: a full blown, full grown animal man on the beats man.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm it's dope to see the next generation
Speaker 3: like the you know, like even Northwest got album coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm interested to school drop out or something. I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is crazy, like to be this man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm interested to see like what Kanye's kids are
Speaker 1: gonna do, or you know, try to disky see what
Speaker 1: my daughter's gonna do.
Speaker 3: Started high school?
Speaker 2: So high school already, That's what I'm said.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're just posting pictures of her, yeah,
Speaker 1: with her in my arms like this, right, But has
Speaker 1: she showed any interest on what she wants to do.
Speaker 3: Uh. She's really good at cooking, She's really good at
Speaker 3: make baking. Yeah, she just made the craziest batch of
Speaker 3: cookies yesterday, scratch too nice at the store. Store bought
Speaker 3: ones like She's just like, you know what, I'm bored.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just make it out out of nowhere. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you might have a feature in that that might be
Speaker 3: the next you know, Grandma's cookies or something. Yeah, right
Speaker 3: crumbles or something like that and or something. I don't know.
Speaker 2: The paris still out here in the five hours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we moved back, well, I moved back in about
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen. I was in LA for a while and abroad.
Speaker 2: Did they ever go with you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Uh? And I made a conscious decision to do that
Speaker 3: because I I was sleeping on couches, hotels and studios,
Speaker 3: and like, I wouldn't I wouldn't dare drag my daughter
Speaker 3: in my yeah around with me like that. So but
Speaker 3: they they've been out here and I came back to
Speaker 3: just you know, take care of them, take care of that,
Speaker 3: you know, and be a dad. And but yeah, they've
Speaker 3: been around the world with me. Though. That's cool.
Speaker 2: Can we say, well, high school, she's going to school.
Speaker 3: Come on, bro, you can't do that.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just kind of tripping now that she's
Speaker 2: in high school.
Speaker 3: That is kind of price.
Speaker 1: Yeah, grown speaking of high schools, man, I got a
Speaker 1: shout out fast because you know, Fash has always been
Speaker 1: a stand up dude. And we used to do these
Speaker 1: high school tours and we had like an anti bullying
Speaker 1: campaign that we were calling bullies or whack that I
Speaker 1: output together, and I remember we just reached out to
Speaker 1: Fashion if he could kind of be on this tour
Speaker 1: with us, and man, without question, he joined us on
Speaker 1: a few schools and we went around and he performed
Speaker 1: for all the students. So, Fash has always been a
Speaker 1: stand up dude. And when I wanted to interview him
Speaker 1: or you know, for the podcast.
Speaker 3: He's just like, let me know. So you know, I
Speaker 3: got to shout you out for that. I appreciate you, Gisel.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this because you know, being
Speaker 1: from Fresno, any Fresno rappers or artists out here, did
Speaker 1: that you're digging or somebody that maybe the people need
Speaker 1: to be on the lookout for some up and comers
Speaker 1: and you got anybody?
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. Man, it's a let me see if
Speaker 3: I can name a good five keep it in the sony.
Speaker 3: It's an artist named female MC and just incredible. Artist
Speaker 3: Fay three hundred, three hundred is really dope. He's a
Speaker 3: young cat from College Street, my young bulldog Homie. Let's
Speaker 3: see sir brother named sir, really dope artist t a
Speaker 3: the handful and I'd have to say, oh, Sean f Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was big. I guess it's his new cat named
Speaker 3: Country Kid or something like that. Country Country. Definitely do
Speaker 3: your homework on him if you haven't already. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: this is the plethora of him.
Speaker 2: What's some piece of advice that you would you know,
Speaker 2: it is a different with the social media being bigger
Speaker 2: than what it was when you were a young kid.
Speaker 2: What's something, what's something you could like give it to them, Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, to take it to the next level.
Speaker 3: Man, be fearless. Just be fearless. Be fearless and your
Speaker 3: approach to your to your craft. And because at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, what you do on this mic
Speaker 3: and what you do in that studio was uh, you know,
Speaker 3: you got to live with that and you got to
Speaker 3: stand on that business. You know until to the day
Speaker 3: you're gone, even after you're gone. You know, that's the
Speaker 3: stuff that's going to feed your family and your and
Speaker 3: your loved ones after you're gone. So make sure something
Speaker 3: that's of substance and something that's up, something that you
Speaker 3: can be proud of.
Speaker 2: There's this thing in a DJ world where they tell
Speaker 2: young DJs if you're just.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about the streams and the cells, because that
Speaker 3: stuff right there will get your that'll gets your m hm.
Speaker 3: That gets you like depressed and like yeah, overdosing in
Speaker 3: a hotel somewhere. You know what I'm saying. So do
Speaker 3: the music because you love to make the music. Yeah,
Speaker 3: other than that and everything else will follow. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: You'll get your little white hot spot of time where
Speaker 3: you shine and everyone the world notices, but not every
Speaker 3: year is gonna be like that, Not every week is
Speaker 3: gonna be like like that. So just do it for
Speaker 3: the greater good. You know.
Speaker 2: The thing that I was saying was, you know, in
Speaker 2: the DJ world, they tell like young DJs that are
Speaker 2: up and coming and still learning to do do as
Speaker 2: many gigs as you can, like, don't worry about the pay,
Speaker 2: just do just get out of the get out there
Speaker 2: as much as you can. Is it the same mentality
Speaker 2: for rappers to like do as many shows here?
Speaker 3: Now? I don't know, like the young artists I've been
Speaker 3: meeting lately, it is like that, like, man, I ain't
Speaker 3: doing a show unless you give me thirty. Bro, you
Speaker 3: gotta work to get to that. Yeah, you gotta work
Speaker 3: to your value is up there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But I think in the beginning, like before you get
Speaker 3: your your first album, before you do your or before
Speaker 3: you make it to your sophomore album, just do as
Speaker 3: much as you can do every show you can because
Speaker 3: you have to study the crowd. So you have to
Speaker 3: study which records translate best live on stage and which
Speaker 3: records are better than the headphones at home. And you know,
Speaker 3: in the winter time, and it's definitely an art form
Speaker 3: to it. It's a whole art form to all of it.
Speaker 3: So there's the art of tour. It's like there's the
Speaker 3: art of war.
Speaker 2: Right. So yeah, side note, I'm glad that you said
Speaker 2: learn what works at the crowd. Jizo and I always
Speaker 2: talk about about live shows where some of these artists,
Speaker 2: even the big artists of today, they do. I feel like,
Speaker 2: you didn't need to perform that song. Just stick with
Speaker 2: the things that you know that will work. Or if
Speaker 2: you're going to perform something new, there has to be
Speaker 2: some sort of entertainment value to it where you you know,
Speaker 2: and keep almost like keeping short one verse maybe, But
Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 1: Don't don't get the audience to get annoyed with you
Speaker 1: or bored with you because you're playing stuff they don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or maybe you're new and you want to perform, want
Speaker 1: your whole album, but they don't even know one song.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You just don't get mad
Speaker 3: at the promoter for like telling you got to come
Speaker 3: off stage now. Yeah, yeah, and you only did two songs. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like you ain't earned that that hour yet. Yeah. No,
Speaker 3: you're right, you didn't earn that hour yet. So do
Speaker 3: you remember your first paid gig? I don't think. Okay,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That must have been years ago.
Speaker 3: Let's see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Just thought, I just thought of ba Bylon. I think, wow,
Speaker 3: he went all the way back. Yeah, I think he
Speaker 3: paid me out of his pocket. I didn't even have
Speaker 3: no fans and nothing. I had no reason to get paid,
Speaker 3: just like you know what, somebody he's paid me on
Speaker 3: his pocket. It was I can't tell it was an
Speaker 3: X amount of money X amount.
Speaker 2: During the hey day and this could I don't because
Speaker 2: I'm sure it changed through the years. But if you
Speaker 2: could pick, oh, once, what was always the last song
Speaker 2: for a fast show?
Speaker 3: Probably Samsonite Man. Probably Samsonite Man. I'll be like, all right, yeah,
Speaker 3: I ended on that note, like, you know, there's no
Speaker 3: city like this city. We got to go to the
Speaker 3: next one. Hopefully it's his live is this one, but
Speaker 3: I gotta go Samsonite Man back on the road. And
Speaker 3: it was just a perfect exit and it's a high note.
Speaker 3: It's like, is that the biggest response? Yeah? I think so,
Speaker 3: because it's like that was my first, like one of
Speaker 3: my first you know, classics, I guess hit if you
Speaker 3: call it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that yeah, still one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: This kind of was an unofficial release, but it was
Speaker 2: something I like beg to play on the radio. It
Speaker 2: was the one with the Michael Jackson sample. That's still
Speaker 2: like it's such as good.
Speaker 1: Couldn't clear that I mean Jesus Christ, but just as
Speaker 1: being sad. I mean I was playing it here, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: My brother, Yeah, it was dope. Yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: I got thousands of songs, man, I got thousands of
Speaker 3: songs literally, so it's like you can pick one and
Speaker 3: you know what you want with it. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: just like I said before, I only do it because
Speaker 3: you know, it keeps me saying and it brings me peace,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So, and in turn it
Speaker 3: brings other people's peace. So yeah, yeah. You know.
Speaker 2: Another thing that you were kind of known for also
Speaker 2: when viral we talked about the Sway Morning Show was
Speaker 2: the freestyle you did. I remember you doing freestyles for us.
Speaker 2: You were always great with freestylesmore grew up up then
Speaker 2: the things I started seeing on YouTube just recently and
Speaker 2: the past maybe four or five years. Uh, they do
Speaker 2: these rap battles where there's no beat. Yeah, and I wait,
Speaker 2: I like this style. Did you ever think about doing that?
Speaker 2: Can you do that?
Speaker 3: That's how I started. I started as a as a poet.
Speaker 3: I just started as a battle rapper. But I started
Speaker 3: out with no beat or nothing, no producers, no nothing.
Speaker 3: So it was just the that just the spoken word
Speaker 3: aspect of it. Deliver it with your hands and be charismatic.
Speaker 3: And so that's how I started. But yeah, I'm not
Speaker 3: really big into balance and I'm not really big into
Speaker 3: like destroying my fellow. That's fair. We're not in front
Speaker 3: of his family. Everybody's I'm more subtle with my article.
Speaker 3: I'm more son zoo with my approach, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. Like you might catch a bar or two
Speaker 3: on my album or or if I'm doing a freestyle
Speaker 3: on the air, I might send a jab at a
Speaker 3: rapper or something like that. But yeah, that whole face
Speaker 3: to face stuff, it's not it's not really things we
Speaker 3: did in Grially City. Man, niggas got shot for that.
Speaker 3: Say something by my mom on my face, like my
Speaker 3: baby Mom's like yeah, yeah, I don't got the mental
Speaker 3: stability for.
Speaker 2: That, just because just because I don't know anything about it?
Speaker 3: Got emotional. I q would be a battle rapper because the.
Speaker 2: Last thing I'll bring about the freestyling, just because I
Speaker 2: don't know anything about it. I have no skill the freestyle.
Speaker 3: Don't lie, man.
Speaker 2: I always wanted to know, do you do do rappers
Speaker 2: think of the last word? And then because they're doing
Speaker 2: this on the spot, what what's the mental what's happening
Speaker 2: in your brain? Do you think of the last word
Speaker 2: that as you're just saying as you're rapping? Yeah, what
Speaker 2: does the mind thinking? Let me think of the punchline?
Speaker 2: And then you know, yeah, how does your just come out?
Speaker 2: That's tough because if it just comes out there's some
Speaker 2: fast has some.
Speaker 3: I mean he's even done, just called the larynx or
Speaker 3: some ship.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we'll go with that barn x.
Speaker 3: Right, So I'll start with that, and I'm just and
Speaker 3: if I catch a good tone, if I know I'm
Speaker 3: in a good tone, yeah, I'll just stay there like
Speaker 3: yo yo, get by it and out and and if
Speaker 3: I know my tone is right, then I could say anything.
Speaker 3: But then I'm like, now I need to fall into
Speaker 3: a cadence, like I need to fall into a one
Speaker 3: two three, some type of cadence, and if I fall
Speaker 3: into one, when when I'm actually freestyling, like when I'm
Speaker 3: not freestyling, I already have it, you know, premeditated murder,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But when I'm like stumbling
Speaker 3: into a cadence, I'll stay there and if my voice
Speaker 3: sounds good, I stated, I'm not thinking about the words.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about my tone, thinking about like a trumpet player,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm thinking like it's not words. These are notes
Speaker 3: that I'm hitting. These are like cadences and ship like that.
Speaker 3: So it's like I'm not even thinking about the words.
Speaker 3: I think about the words after, like when I hear
Speaker 3: it back like like oh that's what I said, I
Speaker 3: zone out. I just do do that, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't even think about the words. The words. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I let God. I literally let God use me as
Speaker 3: a vessel when I just spit it out. But I'm
Speaker 3: more conscious of the tone and the timing in the cadence.
Speaker 2: But I think where the gift is These words that
Speaker 2: are coming out of your mouth makes sense?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm well read and I'm well I'm well read.
Speaker 3: I love to read, and like I said, poetry was
Speaker 3: a big ingredient to all of this. So I love
Speaker 3: to read.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: So it's like when I have to like just spit
Speaker 3: out a barrage of words, it's not it's no problem,
Speaker 3: for they're already in the bank. I know how to
Speaker 3: articulate cust as much. I don't have to, just like
Speaker 3: I know how to. I know how to do that part,
Speaker 3: you know, I know how to articulate myself.
Speaker 2: Anyone shopping beats right now? We were talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: Jay Cole making beats.
Speaker 3: Man, what's up.
Speaker 2: Anyone you're working with right now? Or how does that
Speaker 2: work for you? As like when you're making new songs,
Speaker 2: does someone email you beats? Check this out? How does that?
Speaker 2: How does that work?
Speaker 3: It varies, man, it varies.
Speaker 2: So sometimes you're searching for it, you ask, No, I'm.
Speaker 3: Never searching for beats. That's the thing. I'm never searching
Speaker 3: for like a new sound or I try to invent
Speaker 3: a new sound, like I go like literally physically try to,
Speaker 3: you know, physically make the beat myself. But always got
Speaker 3: different relationships with producers that I can always tap in,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like if I want to
Speaker 3: go to the south or make something southern or that vibe.
Speaker 3: I'll go work with my brother Trent Taylor, who I
Speaker 3: got an album coming out September twenty seventh with it's
Speaker 3: called You. Oh what's with interest? And but yeah, I
Speaker 3: just got different chambers and different producers I can build with,
Speaker 3: So that's I'm never looking for them. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: they always send me stuff like, Yo, you know what
Speaker 3: I can hear fast on this, let me see, let
Speaker 3: me send it to me. So there's a lot of that.
Speaker 3: And then sometimes I'll go to a show and meet
Speaker 3: a producer and they'd be like, you know what, nigga,
Speaker 3: give me a USB or put this AirPod in my ear.
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's go to the studio right now, you know.
Speaker 3: And sometimes that's happened. But yeah, the process varies. And me,
Speaker 3: I don't care about your name. It's all about your game,
Speaker 3: you know. It's all about your game, so solid about
Speaker 3: the quality of the music. So you can be a
Speaker 3: guy with two followers or two million followers, and if
Speaker 3: it ain't crack, we're not selling it. We're not smoking
Speaker 3: it either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you brought up the album. What else you got
Speaker 1: coming up? Or what else are you working on? I
Speaker 1: think even before we jumped on this party City. You're
Speaker 1: going on tour. Yeah, what's on that outlook for Fast
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 3: Tour for the fifteen year anniversary Boys World doing that.
Speaker 3: But I won't be performing the album in this entirety.
Speaker 3: I will just be doing my thing, trying to stuff
Speaker 3: all my career into however many minutes they give me.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we're going on tour Me Blue and Xile
Speaker 3: Anniversary tour for all the albums n X Radio Turns
Speaker 3: fifteen as well below the Heavens Turns I Forgot but Yeah,
Speaker 3: that and Yeah album on the twenty seventh Europe in December.
Speaker 3: I don't think I'll be home for Christmas. Definitely will
Speaker 3: be gone to OVERM.
Speaker 2: Movie on Amazon.
Speaker 3: Movie on Amazon right now. Executive produced by Yours Truly
Speaker 3: Really City Boy GCB. Casey was wondering with the tattoo
Speaker 3: on my armment Yeah, man, just dugging it out. I'll
Speaker 3: be producing a lot, just di some production on the
Speaker 3: Violence in the Media album that just came out. Shout
Speaker 3: out to Ramses. Yeah. All Held the King Part two
Speaker 3: with Fresh Yard Records, Serve at Toronto. Produced the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Carte Blanche with my brother Little Vic from New York
Speaker 3: hopefully all these things come out before New Year's You
Speaker 3: got a lot coming up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if the algorithm I just saw
Speaker 2: like a video of you getting out of a bus
Speaker 2: is this recently you just got did you just get
Speaker 2: back from somewhere?
Speaker 3: Or that was an old tour? That was a Thursday.
Speaker 3: I was a throwback Thursday. Yeah, that was a throwback Thursday. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So that was gonna run the Jewels tour. I was
Speaker 3: a dope tour. That was my first bus tour. First
Speaker 3: time I got to like a twelve bunk sick. That's dope.
Speaker 3: That's dope, man Man to Archie J.
Speaker 2: Well Man continued success. It's just been crazy seeing the
Speaker 2: journey and from sixteen years holds now yeah wow right, about.
Speaker 3: To be thirty six in October. Man, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah twenty years oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah something like that. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. First
Speaker 3: album is fifteen this year. But if we're talking like
Speaker 3: Goodly City mixtape, shit, that that's turns eighteen this year.
Speaker 3: The first mixtape turns eighteen this year, so wow, crazy,
Speaker 3: it's crazy. Until next time. Fast shot Man waited it
Speaker 3: on that He's up. Gee's out