WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:09.919 This could give me fire podcasts. What up on Gizzo? 2 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:12.439 That is John Magic and we are back. 3 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:15.880 From a Fresno rapper turned global hip hop stars. Some 4 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:18.359 highlights that we remember. He was on the cover of 5 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:23.039 Double Xcel magazine from the top ten Freshman hip Hop 6 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:25.440 What was it? The top ten Freshman of twenty ten? 7 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:26.480 Right, Yeah, and. 8 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:30.079 Then he signed with NAS's label Mass Appeal in twenty fourteen. 9 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:35.200 One of you know the album that kind of is 10 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:37.359 it fair to say put him on the map? Boy 11 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:38.079 meets World? 12 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:39.039 I think that's fair. 13 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:43.679 Is fair and a good friend of ours. Man, It's 14 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:46.119 kind of making me feel old because I remember when 15 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:49.520 we first met him as a kid. Ladies and gentlemen. 16 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:50.719 Fast Sean is in here. 17 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:54.719 Man, it's been a minute for having me. Yeah. Never 18 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:57.799 got to say this in the studio, but I'm glad 19 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:00.479 to fucking be here. You know. 20 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:04.840 Usually Jizo and I have like this, you know, we 21 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.000 have something planned out of like what we're going to 22 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:10.959 talk about, but we're like, man, there's all these YouTube 23 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:15.120 videos interviews of how Fast started and also you got 24 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:17.120 We kind of just wanted to catch up because we 25 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:18.719 haven't seen you in years. 26 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.319 Oh my god, I've been here my entire career. Yeah, man, 27 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:24.120 I mean fash Homegrown. Before we jumped on this pod, 28 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:26.200 I was telling him, like, you know, I've interviewed him 29 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:29.000 over the years plenty of times on the radio from 30 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:32.480 every project he had, every album, single, whatever, And I 31 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:33.719 was like, this is the first time we have you 32 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:35.760 on a pod and we could just kind of let 33 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:39.159 loose and converse, say and don't have to be political 34 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:40.280 about it, you know what I'm saying. 35 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:44.680 So I'm looking for some stories we've never heard before. 36 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:46.920 We had it up. 37 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.599 We had we had Hectic in one of the episodes, 38 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:51.640 and he was telling us some stories about you in 39 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:53.480 La and like, so we. 40 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:57.680 Didn't tell you to hope, we didn't tell you the 41 00:01:57.719 --> 00:01:58.239 other stories. 42 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:03.000 It was all you didn't go to parties. 43 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:06.319 Oh man. We did have a good time in Hollywood, 44 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:07.000 for sure. 45 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:11.479 So we could start with this. I remember I was 46 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:14.919 barely a few months into living in Fresno, maybe under 47 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:19.159 a year, and then he I meet Hectic. He brings 48 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:22.400 you as a kid to interview for this show I 49 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:25.520 was doing Homegrown. Do you remember how old you were 50 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:28.120 when I first met you? Because I've been in Fresno 51 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:29.319 for over twenty years, I. 52 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:35.000 Do remember I was sixteen years old. Damn sixteen sixteen, Wow, 53 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:36.840 what year? Do you know what year that was? It's 54 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:38.400 been six o seven. 55 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:39.719 That's about right, because I came here. 56 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:42.080 I came here five, so I would have been like 57 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:44.000 here for maybe two years at that point. 58 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:46.360 First mixtape time. 59 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think I've mentioned this to 60 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:52.759 you before, you know, because we've become friends through the years, 61 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:55.680 and I've said it probably in interviews where the first 62 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:58.879 time I met Fash, you just knew he had like 63 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:01.800 the it factor. Yeah, Like there was something about him 64 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:04.319 as a sixteen year old. I was like, this kid's 65 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:06.599 gonna make it. I told Hectic that this kid's gonna 66 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:11.560 make it somehow. And then Magic spoke and then boom, 67 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:14.759 we just we saw you. We witnessed you grow up 68 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:16.599 and do all these big things. 69 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:17.800 I learned from Sway. 70 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:25.319 Yeah, he does say that. By the way, you just 71 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:28.000 being on Sway in the morning on series. 72 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:30.919 Wow, you know what shout to Sway. But I'm here 73 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:32.159 with Magic and gisel Man. 74 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:33.680 Y'all. 75 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:36.360 You guys are like my icons and idols growing up 76 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.639 so and just being able to listen to all every 77 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:40.759 day on the radio, and yeah, just to know you 78 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:43.120 guys personally. You know, it's a beautiful thing, man, So 79 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:44.560 good guy. 80 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:46.680 Yeah, I mean it's it's been dope to see you 81 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:49.599 as like, you know, a Fresno kid representing you know, 82 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:51.879 a friend of the radio station, a friend of ours, 83 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:53.759 and to see you, you know, like with the Sways 84 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:56.240 of the World's or the Snoop dogs and all the 85 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:58.680 coat signs that you've gotten over the years. 86 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:00.879 Very blessed. Yeah, definitely. 87 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.319 And I guess my question is, like, you know, when 88 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:06.719 you look back on your career to this point, I mean, 89 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:09.360 how does it feel, man? Is this something that you 90 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:11.520 would have ever imagined this far that you would have 91 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:12.080 taken it? 92 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:16.319 Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely man, because I've always had that that 93 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.800 type of confidence. I've always had that confidence in myself 94 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:23.639 almost like a like an unwavering like belief for myself. 95 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:26.120 You know, since since you met me, since I was 96 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:29.319 a kid, I've always knew that I was gonna leave 97 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.519 my name, leave an imprint on and leave a print 98 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:34.160 in this game. So but yeah, and I'm still doing it. 99 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:36.000 I didn't think i'd still be doing it. Yeah, I 100 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:37.519 mean I thought I was going to dip out after 101 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:40.759 boy Mean's World or maybe the collogy, but still in traffic, 102 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:42.079 you know, bumping into cars. 103 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:44.800 Is there something that you know when you look back 104 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:48.439 at being a rapper? Is there a time where you think, like, 105 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:50.560 what would I be doing if I wasn't doing this? 106 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:51.920 Uh? 107 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:54.439 Or is it just like you really can't see myself 108 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:55.319 doing anything else. 109 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:59.639 I've been doing this for probably half of my life. Yeah, 110 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:02.199 I mean half my life. So I probably got more 111 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:04.079 years in the game than I got out of it, 112 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:07.360 you know. Shit, So I can't couldn't picture anything else. 113 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:11.120 But I've dreamed of doing other things, other things, like 114 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:12.839 like I wanted to write for the Fresnel b at 115 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:15.240 one point. Really, yeah, when I was younger, you know, 116 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:18.160 because I always had a knack for writings. Yeah, it 117 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:21.959 just translated more on a mic with rapping. But yeah, 118 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:25.720 i'd have a like a yeah, probably writing, be writing 119 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:31.199 Hallmark cards or something like, yeah, something something with riding ryding, scriptwriter, 120 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:34.639 or like I'd be executive producing a movie or directing something, 121 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:36.839 or or writing a character or something. 122 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:38.920 Something I want to know from the mindset. 123 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:41.279 Speaking of movie, shout out to Gurly City Boys out 124 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:44.120 right now on Amazon Prime and to be in everywhere. 125 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:46.639 Are you in that. No, I just executive produced it. 126 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.800 Okay, okay, wait, what is that about. Yeah, let's talk 127 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:50.160 about that. 128 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:55.680 Girly City Boys, a movie directed by Otis Reid, went 129 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.800 from you know, Grizzly Gang all Day and yeah, we 130 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.519 put together this coming of age film about you know, 131 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:03.959 it's loosely based on my life, but it's not really 132 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:06.639 about me. It's really just about you know, the experience 133 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:08.399 of growing up in Gooley City. So and that's on 134 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:12.639 Amazon Prime right now, and I'm not in it unfortunately. Okay, 135 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:16.079 but you got the prod. My presence is felt. I did. 136 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:19.399 I did some writing for characters and yeah, and I 137 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.160 actually picked the I hand picked the main character, Santana. 138 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:24.279 So didn't you guys do it? There was like a 139 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:25.079 screening for it. 140 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:27.920 Yeah, we did a propable. We did one recently at 141 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:29.720 at some casino. 142 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:31.560 Yeah. I think I saw a post of that. 143 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:32.680 Okay, good time. 144 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:35.399 So the question I was gonna ask, going back to 145 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:38.720 when we first met you sixteen years old, you're gonna 146 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:43.199 get interviewed on the radio, was the mindset wanting to 147 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:46.160 be this commercial? Because is it fair to say you 148 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:50.920 didn't turn into a commercial hip hop star? You you 149 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:55.600 have like this lane that you're in. But during that time, 150 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:57.759 did you want to be one of the one? 151 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:02.160 Yeah, of course I wanted to be uh who was 152 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:07.160 out of that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted to be 153 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:10.839 Ja Kwan, you know what I mean. Jac wasn't out yet, 154 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:13.600 so I wanted to be Jaquan and uh or like 155 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:15.480 bow wow something like that. I wanted to be like 156 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:19.519 an arena act something like that. But I didn't know 157 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:22.839 nothing about led lights and Pyro and like having a 158 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:25.759 tour with trucks and like, I didn't have that type 159 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:30.519 of monetary support coming out the gate. You know it's 160 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.560 coming from Fresno. So I just told myself, I got 161 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.000 to really just depend on this thing right here, this 162 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:39.439 this microphone, and hopefully, you know, my voice will resonate 163 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:43.040 throughout the world. But yeah, and luckily it did. Fortunately, 164 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:43.800 you know, for me. 165 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:47.839 In your opinion, who was the moment that you're like, whoa, Okay, 166 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:49.160 my life's about to change. 167 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:54.160 I guess meeting meeting nas, just going to fly fly 168 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:56.759 out to meet him and discuss that the record deal 169 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.879 and what we're gonna do moving forward. Discussing the ecology, 170 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:02.079 I was like, you know, what things are going to 171 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:04.959 be different after this, you know, even if not from 172 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:08.399 a financial aspect. I know, like my respect is going 173 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:11.240 to go up, you know, just throughout the whole entire community, 174 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:14.519 just by me, just by having an endorsement like that, 175 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:17.399 you know what I mean. And yeah, that was one moment. 176 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:20.560 But I guess doctor Dre too. Just Dra invited me out. 177 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:23.199 And when I was like maybe twenty years old. 178 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.120 Twenty one years old, Yeah, what's a Dre story. 179 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:29.720 It's a guy named Brock right, Brock Courson who used 180 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:31.959 to manage EV when I think he's Kendrick's like A 181 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:35.600 and R now something like that. But man Brock uh 182 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:40.080 took me to Dres spot because yeah, he was the 183 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:42.720 only person who really knew me in LA at the time, 184 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:44.799 and Dre was looking for me. Dre was looking for me, 185 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:48.519 so Brock was like, yeah, no fast, he lives with evidence. 186 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:51.720 He lives at EV's crib and you know, and V 187 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:54.000 would always go to Europe and leave me at the 188 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:57.480 crib by myself. So I'd either skate to Alchemi's house 189 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:00.600 and make music or I just go Echo Park fuck 190 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:03.960 with exile. But but yeah, one day Brock came by. 191 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.759 He was like, yo, you know Dre want to rock 192 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:11.039 with you. I'm like, I'm like, you're lying, but that's 193 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:13.080 a joke, right. He was like, Noah, seriously, like Dre 194 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:15.960 wants you to come through work on detox, which probably 195 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:22.159 might never but so yeah, he ended up making the connection. 196 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:25.600 I ended up coming back to Fresno. I forgot about it. 197 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:28.759 I said, Man, this nigga was lying him anyway. I 198 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:33.960 didn't believe him anyway. So yeah, yeah, Dre reached out. 199 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:36.519 He reached out to Hectic and he said, do you 200 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:38.200 guys want to get flu out here? You guys want 201 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:42.080 to drive? And you know what Hectic said, he said, 202 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:46.519 we'll drive. I'm like, man, if you better stop playing, 203 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:49.600 that would have been my first flight. Yeah, it would 204 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:51.759 have been my first ever. You know what I'm saying. 205 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:53.840 I was helling me. I was tight with Hectic for years. 206 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:55.919 I'm like, man, we could have flew first class. They 207 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:57.440 had us up with the Hilton, all types of shit, 208 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.399 but yeah, I want to h work with Dre at 209 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:05.000 the Encore Studios in LA and worked there for about 210 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:05.799 almost a week. 211 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:08.200 When you say work, what's the work. 212 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:12.240 Is being in there from five pm to five a m. 213 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:17.879 You know, writing, writing, writing, writing writing, Uh, vocals, vocals, 214 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:21.960 vocals that you guys put anything together. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 215 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:27.600 Matter of fact, there's a single from t I that 216 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:31.559 Doctor Dre played me years before, like in that session, 217 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:34.399 and it's a song called Dope or something with the 218 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:38.240 Lea sample. It was like, I'm on dope and yeah, 219 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:40.840 he played that for me, man, And this was a 220 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:44.679 moment that I knew that I just knew I was 221 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:46.960 right where I needed to be right. He plays me 222 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:48.759 this record. First, he tells me he's not going to 223 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:51.200 play it for me. He's like, yo, like I can 224 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:52.679 play this. Ithing like, man, you had to play that 225 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:55.960 for me. He was like sure. I'm like, yes, I'm 226 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:58.279 sure playing for me. So he plays it for me 227 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:00.960 and and I hear that the song, I hear that 228 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.480 Leah sample. I'm like, all right, this is going somewhere special. 229 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:07.120 And then I hear jay Z's voice just flying. Man. 230 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:11.919 I'm like and I look at Dre like and he 231 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:14.720 was like yeah, keep looking at me, like yeah yeah, 232 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:17.480 like you're you're in the big leagues now, right. So 233 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:21.159 he presses stop and he's like, you think you can 234 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:27.080 write something better than that? I said no, I was 235 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:27.679 so honest. 236 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:28.679 That's a turn. 237 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:31.559 Yeah. I was so honest though. I was so honest 238 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:34.519 and he respected it. But uh yeah I could have 239 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:36.200 had that. That could have been my number one, you know. 240 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:38.919 But shout out to t shou out to jay Z, 241 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.279 because only if y'all can hear what jay Z said 242 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:43.840 on this ship. Yeah, oh my god, I'm like, that's 243 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.879 how I know. I'm like, Dre, You're crazy. I'm like, 244 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:50.919 you don't think that's fire, you are crazy. 245 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:52.720 I was just about to ask, I don't remember that 246 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:55.000 song ever getting released or anything, because. 247 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.080 The TI version came out, the did come out, and 248 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.519 but yeah, I wish I had that jay Z version. 249 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:03.559 Yeah, Jay's one of my favorites. 250 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.360 Are you still with Massive Pill? I'm still Massive Pill family? 251 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:12.399 I mean contractually you know that contract expired and uh yeah, 252 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:14.720 but I'm still out here moving and still working with them. 253 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:20.480 But I'm not, yeah, not like exclusively just working with them. 254 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:21.720 I know you brought up Kendrick. 255 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:25.600 Did you guys ever like get something together or you know, 256 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:26.679 want to work together? 257 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:31.759 Yeah? We worked together on a couple of different different places, 258 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:36.639 but never like on a on a record. Yeah. I 259 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:41.000 met him at the Double XL photo shoot. That's where 260 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:44.440 I met him at and yeah, we've just been cool 261 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:50.960 ever since then. But I ran into him and Czechoslovakia. 262 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:53.080 I ran into him in the Czech Republic. I guess 263 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:56.120 you're supposed to call it. And yeah, this is the 264 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:59.519 week he dropped the control verse the first Uh, this 265 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:01.919 is before for not like us. This is like when 266 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:04.759 you first started going on his tirades and so yeah, 267 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:08.240 and everybody thought that he was you know, I thought 268 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:10.799 he was dising people, even if you didn't put his 269 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:12.960 name like him came in his song, he's like yo, 270 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:17.720 like you know. And so I saw him and he's 271 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.480 on stage rocking Good Kid Mad City, the title track 272 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:22.759 of his album, and he looks over at me. He's like, 273 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:24.240 oo fast, you want to you want to get some 274 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:27.480 of this? I'm like it's just him and his band 275 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:29.840 and I'm like yeah, And he let me rock over 276 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:33.039 that in front of thousands of people in Czech Republic. 277 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:35.720 But he saw me threw up the dub like he 278 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:38.559 was like I know what it is. Yeah, and uh yeah, 279 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:42.000 but he did the same ship to me at Resno Fairgrounds. No, yeah, 280 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:44.759 I remember that. Yeah, yeah we were there at that. Yeah, 281 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:46.679 like me and do me and Dot is cool. Yeah. 282 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:50.240 How did you feel about the Drake and Kendrick back 283 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:52.679 and forth or just that type of stuff in general? 284 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:54.639 Do you feel like it's a win for hip hop? 285 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:57.960 Do you feel like, you know it's bad for hip 286 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:00.840 hop because it can escalated things or what's your take 287 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:01.200 on that. 288 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:06.759 I stand with Jake Cole. I stand with j Cole. 289 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:11.600 I'm about peace and about unity, and because jac kind 290 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:13.559 of took herself out of that, it was like, you 291 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.360 know what, I'm not gonna feed into that and like, yeah, 292 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.639 like now you can just catch him ride his bike 293 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:21.799 around like like being a normal person. I respect that, 294 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:25.639 and I respect that like immensely. But I have to 295 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:27.919 say this, though it was entertaining. It was entertaining for 296 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:31.480 the culture. Now we needed a big, a good heavyweight 297 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:38.279 about and it was two respectable heavyweights to me, you know. So, yeah, 298 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:40.519 it was a good It was a good fight. I 299 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:42.200 have to give it to Dot though. I have to 300 00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:44.360 give it to Dot, not just because I'm from the 301 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:47.720 West Coast, just from a you know, I've seen a 302 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:52.679 lot of battles on hip hop, and you know, I've 303 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:55.240 never seen nothing like that, man, especially the amount of 304 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:59.399 music and it's just the just the level of the 305 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:01.960 delivery and how they came through was really good. I 306 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:03.840 mean he got a huge single out of it, you 307 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:09.120 know what I'm saying, Like that's way bigger than takeover Ether. Yeah, 308 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:12.679 like calling out names, that's like an actual hit. 309 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:15.720 Yeah, not to mention you know what he did when 310 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:19.360 he performed of that to pop out and just that 311 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:22.840 whole everything for the culture, it was just yeah, I 312 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:25.440 mean it was dope, so shot to k do I 313 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:27.399 know you brought up J Cole and that's your man's 314 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:29.600 and and you guys were on the cover together for 315 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:33.879 Double Excel. You know, Wiz was on that big Sean Nipsey. 316 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.120 It's crazy that. I mean, to this day, I always 317 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:39.440 say that was like the best class. I mean, those guys, 318 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:41.960 everybody's still doing it to this day. And do you 319 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:44.000 still keep in contact with any of those guys? I 320 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:45.720 know you you and Wiz were pretty close. 321 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:46.000 Yeah. 322 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.960 Yeah. I just spoke to the Cold yesterday, Okay, the 323 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:54.840 Cold yesterday. I told him I'm glad he's making beats again. Yeah. 324 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:57.039 Yeah, a lot of people kind of forget about that 325 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:58.519 or that he's really big on that. 326 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:01.399 The best producers of my generation saying a lot of 327 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:04.399 people don't give them that. You know that it's props, 328 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:06.679 but it's propers. But yeah, I spoke to Cold the 329 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:12.519 other day. I suppose the Gibbs Freddie Gibbs other day. Yeah, yeah, 330 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:14.679 I don't get to run into a lot of cats 331 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:18.080 like that because you know, we all doing trajectories. Took 332 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:22.159 us in different places for sure, But yeah, shout out 333 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:24.080 to Wiz though. I think last time I saw Wiz 334 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:28.080 was in It's overseas in Germany. We did the show. 335 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:31.639 I think it was the week like Manchester one World 336 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:33.799 Cup or some ship. That was like the last time 337 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:38.519 I saw him. And yeah, man, other than that, spoke 338 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:41.000 to Big Sean the other day. He dropped the album. 339 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:46.080 If you heard it, please go listen to that. But yeah, man, 340 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:47.320 I'll be I'll be in my own zone. 341 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:52.879 Are you jaded with the amount of people you've been around, 342 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:57.759 the people you've worked with, the people that you've just 343 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:01.519 networked with. These are some big names that we're dropping 344 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:05.480 right now. Is it? Are you still starstruckt or He's 345 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:08.519 just like, nah, these these are homies, homies. 346 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:13.359 No, I'm not starstruck anymore. Okay, not anymore, because these 347 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:15.880 are not just the homies, but they're still Those are 348 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:20.599 my peers and fellow warriors and this hip hop shit, 349 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:21.960 you know what I mean? Like those those are my 350 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:25.359 comrades and in this music business and in the culture. 351 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:28.960 Most importantly, there's some people that people may not even of. 352 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.200 These are my aunties and my uncles and like like 353 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:33.480 people I look at like father figures. And some of 354 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:35.359 these niggas are like my cousins and like brothers in 355 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:37.759 the game and hip hop is one big family, and 356 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:39.400 I try to bring that energy back. 357 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:41.759 There's even some names where I feel like people are 358 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:46.640 not familiar with, like the you know, the amount of 359 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:49.799 work or well, I'll just say who it is because 360 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:52.519 you know, back in my heyday, I used to like 361 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:55.279 rip and run around with a baboo of dilated people. 362 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:58.119 And you know, you brought up evidence, you brought up 363 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:02.519 exile and hip hop like if you know, like these 364 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:06.640 are some big Yeah. So how did I never found 365 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:08.359 out how you? You were roommates with him or you? 366 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:10.880 Oh yeah, I never told you about that whole story. 367 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:12.160 Yeah, how did that come about? 368 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:16.039 I was running around in LA I was making my 369 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:18.559 album with Exile. I was making my album with Exile 370 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:21.519 at the time wasn't done yet. I was just still running, 371 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:25.720 ripping and running the streets of California. And I was 372 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:28.720 on my way to Los Angeles with my manager one 373 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:33.200 day and I wanted a Verse from Evidence really bad 374 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:37.880 for the song called Arway, and I wanted it really bad, 375 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:40.160 and I didn't know how to attain this thing right. 376 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:43.480 So my manager was like, well, I know Planet Asia 377 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:47.519 and Asia knows Evidence. You know, maybe I could make 378 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:49.680 a call. I'm like, if you can make that call, 379 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:56.319 please make that call. So Hectic calls Asia and it's 380 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:59.039 just like fuck that. I'm calling EV now and I'm 381 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:02.559 telling them you're on your way right like you like, 382 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:04.519 he basically text the address. He was like, just go 383 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:06.640 over there, you know what I mean. I don't even 384 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:12.839 know if v Knew showed up. I'm here, it's my 385 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:14.720 new he's my album I'm working on, Like this up 386 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:17.960 you want to hop on something. But but yeah, before 387 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:20.079 you know it, I'm in Thev's living room and it's 388 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:22.640 just me, him and my manager and we're telling him 389 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:24.240 how much a legend he is and how much we 390 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:27.400 want him on on the album. He's like, don't call 391 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.440 me that man. Just play the song, like don't make 392 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:33.599 me feel old to play the song and yeah, and 393 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:35.880 that was the first time I ever really got to 394 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:40.039 build bill with x F and yeah, and then I 395 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:43.640 moved in about two months later. Yeah, I guess I 396 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:45.680 left an impression on him. He was like, you know what, 397 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.119 here's the keys to my house. Bro. He was like, yo, 398 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:50.960 whatever you need, like you belong to LA now, like 399 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:53.799 we got you out here and yeah, and it's been 400 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:55.839 love ever since. Man. I just ran into him at 401 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:59.319