Speaker 1: Main in a light. Man like this man letting butterfly
Speaker 1: flapping his wing. They've down in a forest. Man, it
Speaker 1: gonna cause the tree fall, letting five thousand miles away. Man,
Speaker 1: nobody seen, nobody else.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 1: You don't need no man like you followed another and
Speaker 1: you got back to flect that I was still win.
Speaker 1: Man got black to night on the Panama Man. Man,
Speaker 1: you don't don't matter man anyway.
Speaker 2: All right, So before we get into this episode with Thomas,
Speaker 2: I think it's important to talk about what this show is.
Speaker 2: It's been a while since I've talked about it on
Speaker 2: my feet. This is Radio Free Chicago, which is a
Speaker 2: current affairs show I do twice a month with Thomas
Speaker 2: seven seven seven.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: When it first launched, it was only available on gum Road,
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Speaker 2: alternating episodes on my substack and Thomas's substack. Right, So
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Speaker 2: That way, you're not paying double for it. You know,
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Speaker 2: that kind of housekeeping stuff out of the way. Thomas,
Speaker 2: It's it's good to see you again, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Likewise, thank you, my friend. It is the week
Speaker 1: of April twenty fourth, twenty twenty six. There's there's been
Speaker 1: some key developments in the world situation as well as
Speaker 1: the domestic situation, things appear to be in a holding pattern,
Speaker 1: but that that can be misleading, you know. And I
Speaker 1: think that's being somewhat deliberately curated because the administration's in trouble,
Speaker 1: I you know, and obviously, I mean, Trump isn't gonna
Speaker 1: He's he doesn't have to fight for incumbency moving forward,
Speaker 1: so presumably he can burn out down the proverbial house
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter. But I and it don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, I don't I don't think Trump's a principled guy.
Speaker 1: I don't think moving forward, he really cares what happens
Speaker 1: when he's out of the picture. But he is accountable
Speaker 1: to people. You know, he didn't he didn't build this
Speaker 1: thing that he's profited from for the lay decade on
Speaker 1: his own. And I think that, uh, I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's real concern about the way things
Speaker 1: have gone sideways with respect to this ill fated crusadingist Iran,
Speaker 1: and and crazy is that state. May it may seem
Speaker 1: to people that the rot run is deep and the
Speaker 1: conceptual literacy is total. I really believe that they, uh,
Speaker 1: the administration, thought that they could finangle some sort of
Speaker 1: profitable outcome from this assault in Iran, you know, and
Speaker 1: uh they they've got a totally misplaced confidence in the
Speaker 1: ability of of of military power to generate political outcomes.
Speaker 1: That's a long standing delusion in America, but it's been
Speaker 1: exacerbated by the fact that America's force structure is highly
Speaker 1: obsolescent at present. I mean, even were it not, they
Speaker 1: they God forbid to be killing a lot more people
Speaker 1: and Iran and and and Lebanon, and causing a lot
Speaker 1: more destruction and making these a lot more difficult for
Speaker 1: the people in the region. But I don't I don't
Speaker 1: believe even if there was a highly effective force structure
Speaker 1: in theater and and a lot more pressure being brought
Speaker 1: to bear on the military front, that I don't believe
Speaker 1: that the administration and the regime generally would be in
Speaker 1: any better position politically. But like we were talking before
Speaker 1: you went live in I Burden raised the point that
Speaker 1: there's a this they're the real the real share punk
Speaker 1: of of Zionists violence is in the Levant and and
Speaker 1: specifically the HESBLA and the Shia heartland in in in Beirut.
Speaker 1: I think that's true. I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: The administrations primary target as I Ran, and if I
Speaker 1: Ran were to go down, that would neutralize has Blah
Speaker 1: for all practical purposes. But I, you know, but I
Speaker 1: but israel Is. I believe that the Israelis UH are
Speaker 1: more realistic on the military front, you know, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that I think that Yahoo's totally delusional in terms
Speaker 1: of the viability of of the Leacud state moving forward.
Speaker 1: I think Israel is using UH this sort of curated
Speaker 1: stalemate in terms of negotiation with I Ran, with Islamabad
Speaker 1: acting as a pseudo arbited arbiter, you know, under under
Speaker 1: the guise of neutrality. There the the ide f IS
Speaker 1: is using this as Ah as cover for all practical
Speaker 1: purposes to perpetuate a broad based assault on on Lebanon.
Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, Nazarala, who was a
Speaker 1: great man. I've been reading his book lately and I
Speaker 1: developed greater esteem from every day. But that aside, he
Speaker 1: had a better understanding of the military situation than your
Speaker 1: average you know, politician or cleric. And he came back
Speaker 1: to the point again and again, and Kamani echoed this
Speaker 1: to the the greater the the Israeli project of Laban's Row,
Speaker 1: which really has been under way since ninety forty eight
Speaker 1: that they covet UH. They covered the Lebanon and and
Speaker 1: and large swaths of a Syria outside the Goland Heights,
Speaker 1: and UH. The fact that there's not the there's not
Speaker 1: enough you know, racial Jews within their population to truly
Speaker 1: hold that territory. They don't care. They're not thinking in
Speaker 1: those terms, you know, they they're they're very much in
Speaker 1: a crisis modality and moving from one sort of punctuated
Speaker 1: UH crisis modality to the to the next, you know,
Speaker 1: within that wider paradigm, and you've got to understand, You've
Speaker 1: got you've got to understand Israeli and political and military
Speaker 1: ambitions within that kind of Laban's raw mediology and UH
Speaker 1: Lebanon has always played an essential role in that. And
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why Lebanon was sort of the
Speaker 1: jewel in the in the crown of of darl Islam
Speaker 1: and UH. One of the reasons it was always so
Speaker 1: contested between you know, Christian, Shia, Sunni and UH and
Speaker 1: the Jews is you know, it's UH, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a viable water source, which is you know key, it's
Speaker 1: there there's maritime access to you know, key trade routes
Speaker 1: and things, you know, and traditionally, UH, within the Arab world,
Speaker 1: that's kind of where the natural elite was situated, a
Speaker 1: large percentage of or Christian you know. And it's so
Speaker 1: it's a complicated situation, but I I think that's very much.
Speaker 1: I think that's very much something it used to be
Speaker 1: considered in in an analytical capacity. And finally I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go over to Burden in a second. The UH, the
Speaker 1: peculiar relationship between Washington and Islamabad and this goes back
Speaker 1: to the early seventies. You know, I was talking the
Speaker 1: other day with Pete Q. You know when a wider
Speaker 1: discussion of UH, of the Cold War and how it
Speaker 1: sort of shaped policy in Central Asia in Warren peace capacities.
Speaker 1: You know, when UH, when Nixon was able to decouple
Speaker 1: Pey King from Moscow and Brezhnev, and that I mean,
Speaker 1: I believe the shadow is trifecta of the SOYT executive.
Speaker 1: Then was usnov On dropped un dropped off, and Gramco
Speaker 1: within drop of kind of at the helm they were
Speaker 1: able to flip India as a hedge against China, and
Speaker 1: and the Washington's response was the what was the flip
Speaker 1: Pakistan and the Indio Indo Pakistan war derived from that paradigm.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I believe that it's it's it's
Speaker 1: fairly obvious to me. I basically agree with Seymour Hearsh
Speaker 1: on the issue of the Ben Laden killing. You know,
Speaker 1: Islamabad had him under house arrest is SI. They don't
Speaker 1: work exactly hand in glove with American intelligence, but there's
Speaker 1: very good offices there with certain qualifications. It's a tense relationship,
Speaker 1: but it is more relationship of alliance than his enmity.
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's not an accident that that the
Speaker 1: Pakistanis are standing in as uh, this supposed neutral arbiter
Speaker 1: between Toronto and Washington. There are anything but however, that's
Speaker 1: an important aspect here too. There's this plan with an
Speaker 1: ends as as as the Benny Jester and his facing yield.
Speaker 1: Say in Dune, what I'm gonna go dover to burden
Speaker 1: now because I've been talking long enough, Like what do
Speaker 1: you think about these things or anything else? Man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the situation in Lebanon I think initially flew
Speaker 2: under the radar, uh, just because obviously there were there
Speaker 2: was less direct US involvement in Lebanon, and it seemed
Speaker 2: as if there was some degree of frustration towards Tel Aviv,
Speaker 2: basically like yeahttitude seemed to be, what are you lunatics doing?
Speaker 2: Isn't this enough war for you? And obviously Israel has
Speaker 2: occupied Lebanon before, uh, you know, I believe they exited
Speaker 2: in the early two thousands, at least formally, right, you
Speaker 2: would know better than I would, Thomas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they fought his Bow in two thousand
Speaker 1: and six to a stalemate, but it was really a
Speaker 1: tactical defeat. But yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: And so it initially didn't really hit my news feed
Speaker 2: until this kind of weird initial two week cease fire
Speaker 2: because there was significant disagreement on whether Lebanon was included
Speaker 2: in that with the Iranians, of course, assuming that was
Speaker 2: the case, the Americans at least initially saying so, and
Speaker 2: then the Israelis going off and doing their own thing.
Speaker 2: This has been a particularly brutal campaign. Hundreds of civilians
Speaker 2: have been killed, and most recently it sort of came
Speaker 2: to a head when there was a photo of an
Speaker 2: IDF soldier next to an upside down statue of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: With a sledgehammer, having smashed his head off. This courted
Speaker 2: a massive international outrage and came after a relatively stupid
Speaker 2: but still notable event where Donald Trump posted an AI
Speaker 2: image of himself as Jesus healing the sick? Do I
Speaker 2: find that personally offensive? Not really to me. It's like, whatever,
Speaker 2: the guy has an ego. You didn't need to tell
Speaker 2: me that, right, But the combination of these two events
Speaker 2: has one provided an off ramp for certain people you
Speaker 2: could tell, who are getting uncomfortable with the situation where
Speaker 2: people who had you know, previously publicly very much allied
Speaker 2: themselves to Donald Trump, We're starting to get cold feet,
Speaker 2: and that provided a way for them to say, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm done. This hit the evangelical world, as you can imagine,
Speaker 2: particularly hard, and this has exacerbated an ongoing split within
Speaker 2: MAGA that we've been talking about for almost a year now.
Speaker 2: What's interesting on that front is now MAGA Inc. Which
Speaker 2: is basically made up of true Donald Trump slaves, and
Speaker 2: then the kind of neo neo cons right, those trying
Speaker 2: to completely and totally subsume the Party of Donald Trump
Speaker 2: back to It's kind of two thousand and six, you know,
Speaker 2: Roe been going hard against the so called podcasters right.
Speaker 2: That includes people like you and I, particularly kind of
Speaker 2: you know, hate figures like Nick Fuentes and Candice Owans,
Speaker 2: but also Alex Jones, for one, has come out hard
Speaker 2: against Donald Trump, and he has continued to be isolated.
Speaker 2: A lot of this also has to do with Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson had his brother Buckley on not too long
Speaker 2: ago for the second time. The two of them had
Speaker 2: sort of a casual conversation where they were talking about
Speaker 2: basically walking away from Trump. You know, guys who'd supported
Speaker 2: him for a long time, who due to you know,
Speaker 2: our relationship with Israel, basically said enough is enough. It
Speaker 2: was a mistake and talking about the you know, the
Speaker 2: twenty fifth Amendment. So take what you will from that.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not news to anyone listening to this show,
Speaker 2: but it is an interesting signal because the we all
Speaker 2: out attack on podcasters right, the traders from the perspective
Speaker 2: of our kind of newest batch of neo cons has
Speaker 2: been unrelenting, particularly as the DOJ has now indicted the
Speaker 2: SPLC for sending money sometimes the tune of two hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy eight thousand dollars to the leaders of hate groups. Right,
Speaker 2: we don't know who they sent money to. We do
Speaker 2: know that there were some involved at Charlottesville. But basically
Speaker 2: this is an old story, right, We've known about this forever.
Speaker 2: That effectively, the SPLC and other groups, if they don't
Speaker 2: find the sort of natural rate of racism or anti
Speaker 2: Semitism or hate all in scare quotes, they will produce it.
Speaker 2: Now why do I bring this up in conjunction with
Speaker 2: the war against podcasters Because if you've listened to me
Speaker 2: and Thomas talk on this show or even in my
Speaker 2: own work, you've heard me whining about this term the
Speaker 2: woke Reich, or as noted linguist Mark Levin says, the
Speaker 2: woke Reich very clever. But basically that claim is these people,
Speaker 2: this you know, the right wing edge of American politics.
Speaker 2: They are making us lose. They are the reason that
Speaker 2: all of these bad things are happening. And this SPLC
Speaker 2: indictment has been used to further that claim. Basically, oh,
Speaker 2: these people were not only traders, they were not only
Speaker 2: Russian assets, they were not only Chinese, they were not
Speaker 2: only you know, vile national socialists, which don't you know
Speaker 2: is just as much. It's just the same thing as
Speaker 2: the woke left on the college campus. Well, now this
Speaker 2: narrative has you know, stepped into place. Now several things
Speaker 2: can be true at once. Do I think the SPLC
Speaker 2: is a sketchy organization, Yeah, one hundred percent. Do I
Speaker 2: think it is somewhat deliberate that we don't know who
Speaker 2: was getting paid? Also one hundred percent, because it enables
Speaker 2: that narrative to strengthen. And I think that as the
Speaker 2: Publican Party and Donald Trump continue to take l's and
Speaker 2: they will continue to the pressure from the kind of
Speaker 2: nominal center right towards us, and our friends will continue
Speaker 2: talking about the kind of mounting pressure. This war is
Speaker 2: not popular. It has dominated the news. It's basically the
Speaker 2: only thing anyone talks about. And with that has come
Speaker 2: increases to fertilizer, to oil, to things that normal people use.
Speaker 2: It's starting to hit people in their pocketbook. Now, what's
Speaker 2: interesting is that when this first happened, you had the
Speaker 2: sort of finance pros basically saying like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: going to be bad, and prices are up, but not dramatically,
Speaker 2: and so people initially were saying like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: rumors of you know, the devise of the American economy
Speaker 2: have been vastly overstated. Who knows. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: say this is mad Max, but it's important to understand
Speaker 2: how the oil market works, which is it works off
Speaker 2: of contracts, which means there's a lag time between when
Speaker 2: a price is struck and when you, as the consumer,
Speaker 2: actually have to bear the consequences of that. I believe
Speaker 2: that will hit by the end of the month. Basically
Speaker 2: we will be buying oil one hundred percent pretty much
Speaker 2: the entire market as far as I understand. I'm not
Speaker 2: a financial analyst, this secondhand information, but talking to people
Speaker 2: who know what they're saying to Basically, oil is almost
Speaker 2: entirely options in futures right, very little of it is
Speaker 2: bought at strike price. So point is that is going
Speaker 2: to massively ramp up. So the pressure will continue, particularly
Speaker 2: as we have you know, even the evangelicals who are
Speaker 2: Trump's some of his most devoted base starting to buckle,
Speaker 2: starting to say, well, wait a minute, you know, why
Speaker 2: are you giving money to the guys who are smashing
Speaker 2: statues of Jesus? Why are you posting photos of yourself?
Speaker 2: As now, not all he still has strong support within
Speaker 2: that coterie. But we've got to understand that's starting to weaken,
Speaker 2: and he is not in a position where he can
Speaker 2: afford to lose any support because other voting blocks, white,
Speaker 2: non college educated voters, young men have turned hard against
Speaker 2: Donald Trump for any number of reasons. While we're talking
Speaker 2: about sort of l's for the Republican Party, I think
Speaker 2: it's important to bring up this redistricting in Virginia today,
Speaker 2: the day that this is going to be posted, I
Speaker 2: released a monologue, which is rare for me, just fifty
Speaker 2: minutes of me talking about exactly this. So for those
Speaker 2: who aren't aware, basically, Virginia went from having a Democrat
Speaker 2: legislature and a Republican governor who was quite popular, fairly moderate,
Speaker 2: sort of Chamber of commerce type, to full control by
Speaker 2: the Democrats. And they have gone hammer and Tom after
Speaker 2: all of the Democrat things, right, so vastly reducing you know,
Speaker 2: sentencing for murder and rape, sort of sweeping gun control,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of going after religious and heritage institutions,
Speaker 2: sort of instituting very similar programs to the daycare fraud
Speaker 2: programs in Minnesota. It was a massive power grab, and
Speaker 2: part of that was redistricting so effectively, they were forced
Speaker 2: to put out a referendum on a proposed constitutional amendment
Speaker 2: which would allow them to redraw the voting map of
Speaker 2: the state, taking it from I believe five and six
Speaker 2: Republican and Democrat, which is pretty close to vote totals
Speaker 2: to a ten to one, I'm not mistaken. And the
Speaker 2: vote on that was remarkably close all things considered. It
Speaker 2: was less than a percent separated it. It was pretty close.
Speaker 2: And this was heavily pushed by the DC suburbs right
Speaker 2: nova Northern Virginia. Fairfax County alone, which is where the
Speaker 2: city of Arlington is, will receive five congressional districts.
Speaker 1: So it's a.
Speaker 2: Pretty transparent attempt to sort of rip the voting map. Now,
Speaker 2: big picture, this is something that's been happening for a while. Obviously,
Speaker 2: there was an unsuccessful attempt in Indiana, successful attempt in Texas,
Speaker 2: and it seems as if California is going through with
Speaker 2: the same thing. In my mind, this is is this
Speaker 2: is really the death of the purple state. There are
Speaker 2: very few toss up kind of bell weathers anymore. Both
Speaker 2: on the state level, states are looking to maximize their
Speaker 2: power right to sort of go full speed ahead. And
Speaker 2: also within the US, we've seen a ton of internal migration. Basically,
Speaker 2: you know, read voters from New England moved down to
Speaker 2: the southeast, same thing from California and vice versa. You know,
Speaker 2: democrats from Florida are At the same time, we're also
Speaker 2: seeing internal racial migration, for instance, a bunch of black
Speaker 2: float folks leaving kind of blighted cities in the Midwest,
Speaker 2: moving to Atlanta, moving to other areas. So that's sort
Speaker 2: of an interesting thing, right, We're seeing this sort of
Speaker 2: internal sorting. But it must be understood that that is
Speaker 2: a loss for the Republicans, right, They were hurting anyway.
Speaker 2: They were basically assured to lose the House, seem very
Speaker 2: likely to lose the Senate, and having you know, four
Speaker 2: of your seats taken away at the snap of a
Speaker 2: sap of you know, some guy's fingers, that that hurts
Speaker 2: an already difficult situation. Now, the Virginia case is interesting.
Speaker 2: We don't have the time to necessarily go into it.
Speaker 2: That will be a protracted legal battle for a number
Speaker 2: of reasons. One, they kind of broke a lot of
Speaker 2: rules to do it. Don't have time to get into
Speaker 2: the inner kind of the specifics of it, but it
Speaker 2: is interesting as a directional trend, right, this seems to
Speaker 2: be in the air. And also, you know, we understand
Speaker 2: how procedural outcomes can be manipulated. So that was worth
Speaker 2: bringing up, of course, just because you know, that's on
Speaker 2: the domestic front. What we've seen pivoting back to another
Speaker 2: group that has been alienated by the President. Donald Trump
Speaker 2: had sort of a weird spat with the Pope, and
Speaker 2: it seems to be largely ginned up by the media
Speaker 2: because the Pope like three weeks ago put out a
Speaker 2: statement that was basically like countries should not go to
Speaker 2: war with each other, they should use diplomacy, which like,
Speaker 2: I mean, look, man, it's the Vatican, it's the Pope.
Speaker 2: Like the Pope has been advocating against war. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: Like Okay, even during you know, the reign of Isabella
Speaker 2: of Spain, the Vatican was saying, please have mercy on
Speaker 2: these heretics, and then the state was burning them anyway,
Speaker 2: so this is far from Look, I'm not Catholic, Thomas,
Speaker 2: you're not Catholic, but getting mad at the Pope for this,
Speaker 2: it's like it's what he does you know I don't agree. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I don't agree with the Pope. R I'd be Catholic,
Speaker 2: but like this is such a it should have been
Speaker 2: sort of a typhoon in a teacup right, pointless. But
Speaker 2: Trump swung hard, right, really swung hard at the Pope.
Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, in aggregate, Catholics vote for
Speaker 2: the Democrats. Now that's highly Again I am not Catholic.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to speak to this as pesta I can.
Speaker 2: That is highly ethnic. You have to understand that, you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of Catholics in America are Hispanic. Hispanics in
Speaker 2: general tend to swing Democrat for obvious reasons. Similarly, like
Speaker 2: you have large Catholic populations in the Northeast. We understand
Speaker 2: how those go. I'm not trying to say that, you know,
Speaker 2: Catholics are a core Republican voter base, but they're certainly
Speaker 2: there right, particularly as we've seen that Donald Trump made
Speaker 2: large gains in the Hispanic population and you come out
Speaker 2: swinging at the Holy Father. That is another group which
Speaker 2: was sort of cast off. And again this is another
Speaker 2: area in which an existing sort of fracture line in
Speaker 2: the nominal right wing coalition between Protestants and Catholics, which
Speaker 2: had sort of laid dormant, you know, short of some
Speaker 2: light ribbing, no one really wanted to bring up the
Speaker 2: old tropes about being controlled by Rome. But because of this,
Speaker 2: that fault line was massively exacerbated. Both on the level
Speaker 2: of you have you know, nominal Republican voters basically feeling
Speaker 2: as if they're forced to choose between their religious obligations
Speaker 2: and you know, their political ones, and also on the
Speaker 2: back end, you had all of the worst people on
Speaker 2: the line, you know, and these are large influencers, I'm talking,
Speaker 2: you know, the kind of people we don't particularly like,
Speaker 2: but prominent conservatives basically going back to kind of eighteen
Speaker 2: nineties anti Catholic canards, you know, or you people are
Speaker 2: just controlled by Rome. And okay, that's a little bit silly.
Speaker 2: It never should have happened to begin with. But nonetheless,
Speaker 2: if we're looking at this party and looking at their
Speaker 2: supporter base, this is yet another place in which it
Speaker 2: is fracturing massively. So and so to me when we
Speaker 2: look at you know, the assault on the individual state level,
Speaker 2: where states are basically saying we're going to hit you
Speaker 2: in these kind of safe you know, Republican districts in
Speaker 2: blue states, We're going to take those away from you.
Speaker 2: Your own supporter base is crumbling, and you're blaming like
Speaker 2: a ten year old, you know, like white advocates who
Speaker 2: went to Charlottesville, Like that's your big like, that's your
Speaker 2: big gamut, that's the reason that you think you're failing.
Speaker 2: And uh, that's even without what seems to be pressure
Speaker 2: from an upcoming economic crisis may be too strong a word,
Speaker 2: but serious pinch. And so when you combine that with
Speaker 2: the basics of electoral math, generally speaking, an incumbnent president
Speaker 2: loses either the House or the Senate simply just due
Speaker 2: to the kind of physics of American elections. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: what's the plan here? And that's a similar question I
Speaker 2: think many people have been asking as regards with Iran,
Speaker 2: because we've got to understand that the US is blockading
Speaker 2: the strait of horror moods. The Iranians have semi closed it.
Speaker 2: They're sort of acting as like bridge trolls where you
Speaker 2: can go through if you pay the money. Now, the
Speaker 2: US is basically said, no, we're going to prevent anyone
Speaker 2: from taking that deal, which is pushing putting massive pressure
Speaker 2: on other countries, right, both the Gulf States who are
Speaker 2: already wavering, and then also Europe who do to you
Speaker 2: know reasons I'm not entirely sure, right if massively are
Speaker 2: massively dependent on you know, liquid natural gas and exports
Speaker 2: from the Middle East, and so point is this is
Speaker 2: a really dicey situation that is seemingly not being treated
Speaker 2: particularly seriously, and unless something dramatically changes, there will be
Speaker 2: a shift after the midterms. And what we have to
Speaker 2: understand is it is true, you know, Trump doesn't really
Speaker 2: have to worry about another election, but one hundred percent
Speaker 2: has to worry about being impeached, which look like the whole.
Speaker 1: They were republic they take a mass of loss in
Speaker 1: the midterms, man, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Well and less do you doubt that they're serious, Like
Speaker 2: they impeached him over kind of bs last time. Now
Speaker 2: they have a real reason. You know, the these rumors
Speaker 2: of uh, you know, market manipulation have grown stronger and
Speaker 2: stronger and stronger, particularly as regards oil futures. And there
Speaker 2: was a story not too long ago of a you know,
Speaker 2: Trump official who pocketed you know, tens of thousands of
Speaker 2: dollars on these futures and look, there's a good chance
Speaker 2: you might be convicted of that in a normal court,
Speaker 2: let alone an extremely hostile legislature. And so, uh yeah,
Speaker 2: the administration's really in a tough spot, and uh I
Speaker 2: really feel less than no sympathy for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole thing is ridiculous. I uh a couple
Speaker 1: of things I wanted to hit up. Yeah, it's incredibly
Speaker 1: tone def to go after the quote the podcasters. I mean,
Speaker 1: first of all, you sound like some senile fucking boomer
Speaker 1: like talking about there's these podcasters on this thing called
Speaker 1: the Internet and and they're spreading disinformation. It's like, how
Speaker 1: fucking out of touch are you if you talk that way?
Speaker 1: But you know, also, the day is the bully pulpit
Speaker 1: or dead the legacy media bully pulpit. I mean you
Speaker 1: can accept that or you're not in the game. And
Speaker 1: you know, I that's really what killed this, uh this
Speaker 1: like zionist cult that's masquerading as Christianity, because I can
Speaker 1: only survive amiss. Uh A bully pulpit that's that goes unchallenged.
Speaker 1: You know, with with the traditional airwaves being the being
Speaker 1: the primary medium of of media interface because I've made
Speaker 1: this point of people again and again, especial us how
Speaker 1: the faith. This isn't some this isn't some controversy of
Speaker 1: interpretation of scripture. There has nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of people who aren't Jewish but enjoyed
Speaker 1: pretending to be Jewish and worshiping this racial eye of
Speaker 1: Jewish states that has absolutely zero to do with scripture.
Speaker 1: In fact, scriptures adamant and emphatic and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: uh irrebuttably clear that these people are anti Christ. And
Speaker 1: if you are in and if you believe in those imperatives,
Speaker 1: and if you worship the strange gods of the First Covenant,
Speaker 1: you are anti Christ. So I mean this, this can't
Speaker 1: you know, uh, this, this can't survive even the barest
Speaker 1: of scrutiny, you know. So they're panicking now. I mean
Speaker 1: I've always been in the belief that this garbage will
Speaker 1: die with these like sad you know, he loot Boomers
Speaker 1: when they die off because like nobody, nobody else is
Speaker 1: susceptible of that fucking garbage. But moving out of the
Speaker 1: SPLC because normies don't seem to understand this, and I
Speaker 1: I mean a conservative ink is paralyzingly ignorant. But they
Speaker 1: don't understand it either. The SPLC has been a con
Speaker 1: from jump more as it das he used to defend
Speaker 1: Klan guys in court and when that dried up and
Speaker 1: when that became politically incorrect to do. He'd worked in
Speaker 1: direct marketing before, so he got these lists, these direct
Speaker 1: marketing lists which were worth weight in gold, you know,
Speaker 1: pre internet and before there was you know this h
Speaker 1: the technology available to kind of aggregate you know, contact
Speaker 1: lists for for likely donors and whatever. So he devised
Speaker 1: this whole direct marketing scheme of making people scared of
Speaker 1: the Klan and of the you know, this looming right wing,
Speaker 1: and he built this huge war chest that ultimately Candy
Speaker 1: got a billion dollars back when that was you know,
Speaker 1: like unbelievable wealth, you know, and he went he went
Speaker 1: around suing people and uh and you know, building up
Speaker 1: this kind of direct marketing con And what we on
Speaker 1: the right have always said going back half a century,
Speaker 1: these idiots like the National Socialist movement, how guys with
Speaker 1: no visible means of income would just like fly around
Speaker 1: the country with the news crew behind him, you know,
Speaker 1: like dressing up like horse vessel and like calling for
Speaker 1: T and D. It was obvious what this was, okay,
Speaker 1: And if your whole KNK is claiming like, oh, the
Speaker 1: right is woke because you know, they're they're they're the
Speaker 1: progeny of the Democrats or something. Look, man, there you
Speaker 1: know the whole uh there, there was an there's a
Speaker 1: huge scandal in the Kennedy era, you know, like the
Speaker 1: Mississippi Burning. They made this whole propaganda film about it.
Speaker 1: Bobby Cherry, the guy who bombed the Baptist church with
Speaker 1: those four little girls burned to death, he was an
Speaker 1: all probability and FBI informants Gary Thomas Rowe, who was
Speaker 1: present during at least one murder and it was the
Speaker 1: real man on a number of others. He was an
Speaker 1: FBI informant. You know, like the the the the most
Speaker 1: violent clan iteration in history was shot through with FBI informers.
Speaker 1: So like if you if, if you're if, your whole
Speaker 1: narrative is the woke right narrative, which remains the dumbest
Speaker 1: fucking neologism ever coined. Well, apparently you also believe that
Speaker 1: like the KKK is just a branch of the FBI,
Speaker 1: because that's you know this, that's the the same paradigm
Speaker 1: at work. But you know, and everybody knew des was dirty.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, I mean aside from the the obvious,
Speaker 1: I mean, he was obviously embezzling money. That was uh
Speaker 1: that he wasn't paying tax is on it. I mean
Speaker 1: this this again, this goes back decades. This is the
Speaker 1: opposite of news, you know, and the fbis of make
Speaker 1: work bureaucracy anyway. But it's uh, you know, the the
Speaker 1: SBOC have gon a fair target because in recent years,
Speaker 1: really in the last like ten to fifteen years, they've
Speaker 1: lost whatever credibility they had, I mean even among the
Speaker 1: most susceptible dupes. But it's changing gears, you know. One
Speaker 1: of the things. I think people are finally kind of
Speaker 1: getting wise to this idea that markets are always teetering
Speaker 1: on the precipice of collapse owing to really reckless decisionism
Speaker 1: on the on the war and peace front. That's not
Speaker 1: the way things are anymore. And I I don't understand
Speaker 1: finance any meaningful capacity, but I do understand political economy,
Speaker 1: and something like the crash of eighty seven isn't possible
Speaker 1: anymore because there's to the second information awareness, you know,
Speaker 1: and stocks increasingly. I mean, I'm saying that stocks are
Speaker 1: a good hedge and people are in stocks should stay there,
Speaker 1: you know, especially conservative investors, you know, I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean people who don't like play markets like the like
Speaker 1: the Blackshack tap. I mean, people are just look looking
Speaker 1: to sustain their retirement nest egg and stuff. But this
Speaker 1: idea that you know, there's some susceptibility in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenties to uh, you know, some sort of structural collapse
Speaker 1: or for you know, uh a stock market crash that
Speaker 1: you know, whpes oude everybody's four one k. That's not
Speaker 1: that's not possible anymore. That's not to say that there
Speaker 1: can't be some punctuality of the event that tanks the
Speaker 1: dollar or something. And that's not to say that, you know,
Speaker 1: especially like let's say like the Let's say that let's
Speaker 1: say there was some sort of let's say the House
Speaker 1: that saw It went down and and a bunch of
Speaker 1: the Gulf states again basically failed states, you know, and
Speaker 1: the kind of paradigm that played out in Syria like
Speaker 1: went theater wide. I mean that I could easily imagine
Speaker 1: there being some sort of real energy crisis. Okay, but
Speaker 1: there's not gonna be a great depression too or whatever
Speaker 1: these uh or whatever, these gold bug types and and
Speaker 1: these libertarians like to suggest, are these guys who's stock
Speaker 1: in trade is uh is crisis manger clickbait because that's bullshit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I and finally I this is this is
Speaker 1: an incredibly unpopular war. Trump's becoming an incredibly unpopular president,
Speaker 1: which before was not the case despite capture. The contrary,
Speaker 1: the Republicans are basically gonna get wiped out in the
Speaker 1: mid terms, and that's further gonna people are gonna blame
Speaker 1: Trump for that to one, you know, uh, even some
Speaker 1: of the diehards and the former diehards. So that's you know,
Speaker 1: there are the Republicans are done. And honestly, uh honestly,
Speaker 1: I hope uh honestly, I hope Trump does get him
Speaker 1: keached because he should be. He should be removed from office,
Speaker 1: like not even as a matter of policy, like he's
Speaker 1: obviously he's obviously not competent. I mean, I know that's
Speaker 1: not probally, like he's not fit to for office because
Speaker 1: he's suffering from obvious dementia. I don't see anybody can
Speaker 1: argue otherwise, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's it's interesting to your point earlier about
Speaker 2: the sort of changeover within American Christianity and American culture.
Speaker 2: Writ large, Israel is extraordinarily unpopular. Support for Palestine over
Speaker 2: Israel is basically three to one under forty uh. The
Speaker 2: president's approval ratings are roughly exactly the same. It's it's
Speaker 2: pretty dire and at least according to again, you know,
Speaker 2: Joe Kent, and then others who show they're motivated. But
Speaker 2: it seems as if there is a growing unease sort
Speaker 2: of within Trump's immediate circle about how he's acting. Now,
Speaker 2: I say this as someone who recognizes that there have
Speaker 2: been people saying since twenty sixteen, this guy is senile,
Speaker 2: that he's insane, that he has you know, all sorts
Speaker 2: of you know, diseases or personality defects. And I say
Speaker 2: this is someone who did not think that was the
Speaker 2: case ten years ago. And he was a narcissist, he
Speaker 2: was a weird guy, but he was seemingly sharp, and
Speaker 2: now he's going on these sort of bizarre, sort of
Speaker 2: senile rants, which are, as I said earlier, driving wedges
Speaker 2: into his own base. Now, don't get me wrong. You know,
Speaker 2: the guy is pretty much pretty obviously moves off of instinct,
Speaker 2: and that carried him a while, but it seems as
Speaker 2: if he's kind of lost his edge and the fractures
Speaker 2: are starting to run up through his base into his
Speaker 2: amn Idi support network, right the people around him. Again,
Speaker 2: it's sort of hard to tell either way, because this
Speaker 2: is an issue on which almost anyone. Everyone has a motivation, right,
Speaker 2: everyone has something they're trying to sell you. But in
Speaker 2: my mind, when we look at the results, it bears
Speaker 2: out the idea that he is no longer the same
Speaker 2: canty political actor he was earlier. It's interesting as well
Speaker 2: to mention that there are several things coming up to
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court currently. Obviously, you have birthright citizenship, which
Speaker 2: is huge. I think that the chances of that going
Speaker 2: away are relatively low. But look, I'll be honest, if
Speaker 2: that's what we get out of the Trump presidency, I'll
Speaker 2: take it. You know, It's it's again. I have been
Speaker 2: surprised by the degree of subservient Zionism we've seen from
Speaker 2: the President in a second term, but there are still
Speaker 2: instances where I feel like we got more than I
Speaker 2: could have reasonably hoped for that does not put him
Speaker 2: in the black in my mind, but you know what,
Speaker 2: like you coal balls and strikes like that would be
Speaker 2: a win no matter who gave it to us. Similarly,
Speaker 2: another one is there's a specific part of the Civil
Speaker 2: Rights Act. This goes back to our earlier conversation about
Speaker 2: polarization within the US. I don't remember which section it
Speaker 2: might be Section two. Don't quote me on that. At
Speaker 2: the Civil Rights Act, which is basically mandated majority black
Speaker 2: districts in predominantly deep Southern states, which has led to
Speaker 2: these very bizarre, bizarre districts. Like if you look at
Speaker 2: like Mississippi, Louisiana, they look like spaghetti monsters because they
Speaker 2: have to meet that one hundred percent. If that goes away,
Speaker 2: you know, we will see a similar kind of counterbalancing
Speaker 2: force in the American South as far as that shakes out.
Speaker 2: So point is, those are two very big cases that
Speaker 2: have gone to the Supreme Court. I'm not a Supreme
Speaker 2: Court watcher, per se. I'm not necessarily the guy to
Speaker 2: go to on that. But that is other things to
Speaker 2: look for, other sort of major, you know, issues going
Speaker 2: on at once. The rise of Gavin Newsom has continued
Speaker 2: earlier when he was sort of floating his like about
Speaker 2: you know, right around the time of the wildfires a
Speaker 2: year and a half ago, you and I were fairly
Speaker 2: dismissive on his political chances. And I think that if
Speaker 2: Trump had sort of gone through the normal decay we
Speaker 2: see in a sitting president, you know, where there's no
Speaker 2: major scandal, there's no major war, Newsom is not a threat. However,
Speaker 2: we have to understand that we're reaching the point where
Speaker 2: quite literally anyone would you know, be a Republican challenger
Speaker 2: for any number of reasons. And Newsom is a very
Speaker 2: bizarre figure. But I think that there is a very
Speaker 2: real one hundred percent and you know, he is sort
Speaker 2: of a classic, you know, pressed in a mold, polished politician.
Speaker 2: But given the fact that we're coming out of in
Speaker 2: Trump and Biden, that probably serves him well, you know,
Speaker 2: just a sort of a you know, a return to form.
Speaker 2: But uh, I've not seen many other challengers. What's interesting
Speaker 2: within California, obviously, the race for the next governor has
Speaker 2: heated up. The Republicans were doing much better than previously expected. Uh,
Speaker 2: kind of earlier in the year. That has decayed. As
Speaker 2: you can imagine, Eric Swolwell has been ousted from politics
Speaker 2: due to a series of kind of bizarre and sordid
Speaker 2: sex scandals. Don't need to get into those. He had
Speaker 2: been kind of teflon for a while. Uh, he had
Speaker 2: had a relationship with and this is the name the
Speaker 2: DJ is using. I am not making fun of this
Speaker 2: woman for being Chinese, but Fang Feng, this Chinese woman
Speaker 2: that he had had an affair with. I don't think
Speaker 2: he's married at the time, so he'd had a fling
Speaker 2: with I guess was connected to Chinese intelligence. He'd completely
Speaker 2: skated on that. No charges, but this one really seems
Speaker 2: to have brought him down. It's sort of up for
Speaker 2: debate to what degree that was the machinations of the
Speaker 2: Trump administration versus inter DNC rivalry. He's up against another woman,
Speaker 2: Katie Porter, who is just kind of a relatively normal Democrat.
Speaker 2: She has I think beaten some of her staffers, which
Speaker 2: is pretty cool. You know, she throws hands when people
Speaker 2: don't give her her coffee on time. But again, it's California.
Speaker 2: We understand how this works. Other kind of stories across
Speaker 2: the US that are worth bringing up. The DJ is continued.
Speaker 2: It's kind of widespread Medicare medicaid fraud indictments, particularly going
Speaker 2: after California. We'll see on that front it's been relatively
Speaker 2: slow rolling. Other scandals within the Trump administration have been
Speaker 2: kind of sadly typical. You know, there was this one
Speaker 2: woman I cannot remember her name, it was something Spanish
Speaker 2: who got fired for again kind of petty corruption, you know,
Speaker 2: sex scandal stuff. And then cash Betel has also been
Speaker 2: at the center of other scandals. Now, as we said
Speaker 2: earlier with Orbon, I think it's important to draw distinction
Speaker 2: between our people mad because the administration is too right wing,
Speaker 2: or are they feeling fed up with corruption and fed
Speaker 2: up with this kind of costly and disastrous war in Iran.
Speaker 2: The narrative, particularly after Virginia, has basically been, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: progressive politics are back. This is what voters want. Of course,
Speaker 2: the people saying that would say that, you know, they
Speaker 2: are progressive liberal types. That's what they want to take
Speaker 2: from it. But I think what we're seeing is a
Speaker 2: much more basic, boring form of politics, which is basically, uh,
Speaker 2: the Trump administration is messing up on the kind of
Speaker 2: basic block and tackle politics and are being punished appropriately.
Speaker 2: A big rant for me, Thomas, but I'm curious what
Speaker 2: your thoughts are.
Speaker 1: No, that wasn't a rant, that was well placed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I excuse me. New some sort of embodies the state
Speaker 1: of things, like the guy, the guy's a piece of
Speaker 1: ship and he's an empty suit. But in superficial terms,
Speaker 1: you know, the the the that the by the by
Speaker 1: the number is woke. Politics is dead and it's not
Speaker 1: coming back. You know, Newsom is a huge, uh, race trader,
Speaker 1: totally unprincipled piece of shit, typical regime apparatic. But you
Speaker 1: know he's a he's an old money California white guy
Speaker 1: who's married to a woman like himself. Like those those
Speaker 1: the optics that win in America. You know, you can't,
Speaker 1: you can't can't nominate bizarre d E D E I
Speaker 1: hires and and win. You know, I mean, don't gonna
Speaker 1: be wrong. I am the last person to suggests that
Speaker 1: there's real elections in America, because there's not. But as
Speaker 1: uh as the regime learned in twenty twenty, you've got
Speaker 1: you actually do have to have a mandate from the
Speaker 1: body politic that's at least a plurality. You know, you can't, uh,
Speaker 1: you can't just completely do away with UH, with the
Speaker 1: need for popular legitimacy and just declare that, you know,
Speaker 1: you're gonna enshrine whoever the inner party decides that they
Speaker 1: want out front as the as the face of the executive.
Speaker 1: That doesn't work, you know that there really doesn't even
Speaker 1: work in in in the global South, you know, in
Speaker 1: those terms. So yeah, and I mean I agree with
Speaker 1: you too. It's it's it's Trump and his cronies who
Speaker 1: will have elected Gavin News. I'm assuming he becomes the president,
Speaker 1: and I think he will be, and there's gonna be
Speaker 1: I think, Uh. On the one hand, as fatigue as
Speaker 1: people are with Trumpian corruption and his pathetic uh is
Speaker 1: his pathetic bitch made cow telling to the Zion of State,
Speaker 1: one of the one of the reasons for Trump's success,
Speaker 1: especially early on, was that he did bring a certain
Speaker 1: dynamism to UH presidential politics and the contest for the
Speaker 1: oval office that's really been that that's been that's been
Speaker 1: totally lacking since uh the Reagan era. And I think, UH,
Speaker 1: people are people are are gonna want that to continue,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think, uh, it's this is really
Speaker 1: too early to call because I'm speculating upon speculating, But
Speaker 1: I think Newsome is going to be the president. I
Speaker 1: think you may ever weell be uh a one term president,
Speaker 1: just because people are so bored by his typical kind
Speaker 1: of uh banality, which uh you know, they they can
Speaker 1: no longer get off on only to the reality show
Speaker 1: that was uh, you know, the decade of Trump. It's
Speaker 1: interesting to consider, you know, the uh there's almost like
Speaker 1: a curated uh. I mean if you look at these contests, uh,
Speaker 1: especially uh Bush v. Carrey and uh, you know then
Speaker 1: like uh Obama Romney, it's like it's tailor made to
Speaker 1: put people to sleep. You know. One of the weirdest
Speaker 1: things about Obama was, I mean, Obama's just like a
Speaker 1: bizarre person across the boarding with bizarre that they took
Speaker 1: this kind of nerdy, this guy who's propetial purposes. Obama's
Speaker 1: a nerdy Asian immigrant and they decided to pretend he's black.
Speaker 1: But also, Obama's just a boring guy. You know, there's
Speaker 1: there's nothing to him. You know, everything about him is boring.
Speaker 1: And uh when Trump had his mind, whether you loved
Speaker 1: or hated the guy, were indifferent to him, Trump wasn't
Speaker 1: boring and the way people responded to him wasn't boring,
Speaker 1: you know, and there is uh they're supposed to be. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a good thing. But in America,
Speaker 1: the entire American presidential politics were were built on uh,
Speaker 1: you know, aggressive uh contests and and and real knockdown
Speaker 1: dragon fights and a certain dynamism bordering on hostility. The
Speaker 1: fact that you know, for Bays, the old generation that
Speaker 1: was just redacted, I mean that the regime fucked up
Speaker 1: by curating that too. You know, like you need that,
Speaker 1: you need some kind of Lincoln Douglas hostility. You know,
Speaker 1: you need you need uh, you need you need you
Speaker 1: need people. You need people that everyone loves to hate,
Speaker 1: like Missus Clinton, who are there to lose and build
Speaker 1: up you know, some some some populist type like Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Like I think Trump's a fake populist, but he you know,
Speaker 1: he was writing a like I've always said, Trump, the
Speaker 1: guy wasn't that It isn't important. It's the silent majority
Speaker 1: asserting itself and uh also demanding a certain confrontational tenor
Speaker 1: and sensibility to be returned to the presidential politics. So
Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think the regime is gonna try
Speaker 1: to return to like pre Trump normalcy, like pre twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen normalcy. They're gonna install Newsome and he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a one term president, and you're gonna have a lot
Speaker 1: of people failing and kind of trying to like recapture
Speaker 1: that energy Trump had in twenty sixteen about realizing that
Speaker 1: Trump didn't just curate that he was riding the wave,
Speaker 1: and to his credit, he was doing so very effectively.
Speaker 1: Like Trump when he was on, he was a he
Speaker 1: was a master at interfacing with the media and exploiting
Speaker 1: both both legacy and new media. It's a great effect,
Speaker 1: you know. And I don't think they can beat the night,
Speaker 1: but that's you know, like I said, I I realize
Speaker 1: that that's highly speculative, but that's where I see things.
Speaker 2: All Right, Thomas, I think we have hit all the
Speaker 2: major news for the last two weeks. Unless I'm oh, actually,
Speaker 2: here's a here's a big piece of news. Uh Pinaferina
Speaker 2: has has dropped in. Uh In I think they're working
Speaker 2: with another shop. Uh a new NSX, not the like
Speaker 2: weird accurate abomination you've got a couple of years back,
Speaker 2: but it looks awesome. Uh. No one listening to this
Speaker 2: can afford it. But it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I love it was awesome.
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, when we're done, I'll send you the new
Speaker 2: new one, which is not an official car. It's it's
Speaker 2: a Pinaferena like prot like limited run. Looks like a
Speaker 2: new version of the old one.
Speaker 1: Looks awesome.
Speaker 2: The point is that's some other breaking news.
Speaker 1: Uh check that out.
Speaker 2: It's certainly more uh certainly more uplifting than anything else
Speaker 2: we've discussed. But Thomas, I know people can find you
Speaker 2: on substack. You've got your website and your YouTube channel
Speaker 2: where you've been, you know, posting more on that front.
Speaker 2: You and Pete have been doing some live streams more regularly.
Speaker 2: People can check that out. And also you were on
Speaker 2: the last episode to the Inquisition. I'll make sure to
Speaker 2: grab that. Did I miss anything?
Speaker 1: No, I started. I've had a Rumble premium account for
Speaker 1: a minute because it's only like ten dollars a month.
Speaker 1: I just started uploading stuff there and I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: uploading it mirrors my YouTube channel, but I'm also gonna
Speaker 1: start driving some fresh stuff there obviously, because there's no
Speaker 1: censorship there unless obviously you're you know, doing crazy things
Speaker 1: or threatening public officialdom. So I'm gonna start streaming someone there,
Speaker 1: and i want to start doing some collaborative stuff with
Speaker 1: Carl Doll and Andy Edwards, and I'm thinking Rumble is
Speaker 1: going to be the main platform for that, So check
Speaker 1: me out on Rumble too moving forward. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: thank you for the plugs man.
Speaker 2: Definitely. As far as my stuff, you can find my show,
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Speaker 2: everyone at home keep your head up.