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<v Speaker 2>Now to hear Bran. I got a screen going on here, Something.

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<v Speaker 8>To kill with my dog, Something to kill your dog?

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<v Speaker 2>My dog? What playing to here? Over the tree? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how I did it? Okay, damn it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really confused now. All I thought was my dog coming

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<v Speaker 2>over to Ben and they would have did when you

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<v Speaker 2>hit the girl like that energening cars. All I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was my dog coming over to bend one.

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<v Speaker 9>What are you reporting?

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<v Speaker 2>We got some wonder or something crawling around out here?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see what it way? I'm out here looking

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<v Speaker 2>to the window now and I don't want to see anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go outside. Jesus right back here. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>hit somebody out here?

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<v Speaker 10>What's going announce their?

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<v Speaker 2>I's thought of a bitch of about text forty nine.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know easy announce their?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm walking right away.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh I fem don't want to welcome O guest to

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<v Speaker 6>the show. It is Matt from Washington. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 6>show man, Hi.

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been looking forward to this conversation. Let's get right

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<v Speaker 6>into them. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing. What guy

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<v Speaker 6>you interested in the subject to begin with?

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<v Speaker 12>Ever since I was a little small child, I was

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<v Speaker 12>always interested.

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<v Speaker 11>It was in my household growing up in East Texas,

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<v Speaker 11>being a native East Texan right near the Louisiana border.

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<v Speaker 11>My grandfather and my father were really into it, and

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<v Speaker 11>they'd always tell us stories. It wasn't until I was

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<v Speaker 11>in the first grade that I thought it might be

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<v Speaker 11>a possibility for me. Up until that point, it was

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<v Speaker 11>always just a boogieman type story, sale of the woods,

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<v Speaker 11>you know. But going into the library, I seen a

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<v Speaker 11>book and in there there was the picture, the iconic

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<v Speaker 11>picture of Patty where she's turned around looking I'd never

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<v Speaker 11>seen that before. That was a whoa moment for me,

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<v Speaker 11>so I was like, Okay, I've got to know more

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<v Speaker 11>now they started buying any books.

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<v Speaker 12>It just grew from there.

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<v Speaker 11>My dad would take us out places on vacation, sasquatch hotspots,

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<v Speaker 11>bigfoot hotspots, looking for stuff, so it just kind of grew.

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<v Speaker 6>I think Patty is responsible for dragging a ton of

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<v Speaker 6>us into Bigfoot because that iconic frame three p. Fifty

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<v Speaker 6>two that Everybody's from a with draws everybody in. It's

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<v Speaker 6>still one of the most iconic things related to Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 6>that's out there, so I can definitely relate to that.

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<v Speaker 6>For me, it was more I was into the lockness

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<v Speaker 6>monster that sort of pulled me into the world of cryfteds,

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<v Speaker 6>and I had an experience when I was twelve years

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<v Speaker 6>old that really got me interested in the subject. But

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<v Speaker 6>Patty is definitely the one that drags a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>folks in. She drags folks in even to this very day.

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<v Speaker 6>She's been busy since nineteen sixty seven. You started very young,

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<v Speaker 6>you were talking about this with your dad. You're seeing

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<v Speaker 6>the picture of Patty. But when did you actually get

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<v Speaker 6>serious going out in the woods and doing the serious

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<v Speaker 6>research because I know you've been doing that for about

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<v Speaker 6>thirteen years. Let's talk about when you decided to flip

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<v Speaker 6>that switch shift from armchair researcher to boots on the

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<v Speaker 6>ground in the woods looking for these things. What was

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<v Speaker 6>that transition like for you, and talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>about what happened once you got out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 11>I saw Finding Bigfoot and then the Monster Quest series,

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<v Speaker 11>and those really inspired me.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 11>I would always sit there and lay on the couch

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<v Speaker 11>for the next big show about Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 12>I was like, you don't, I'm not a waiter. So

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<v Speaker 12>I was like, I want to go. I got to

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<v Speaker 12>get out there and check it out myself. I want

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<v Speaker 12>to see. So I started doing that. I had a

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<v Speaker 12>really great job.

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<v Speaker 11>I worked for the State of Texas. I had an

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<v Speaker 11>opportunity where I could take a month off at a time.

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<v Speaker 11>We didn't go out, and we would hit these spots.

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<v Speaker 11>We'd go on vacation. I'd have to trick the girls

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<v Speaker 11>and take them to Disneyland, but along the way we

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<v Speaker 11>could see some other stuff. We'd go visit some national

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<v Speaker 11>parks and everything, and nothing really happened. I was looking

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<v Speaker 11>for habitat. I guess that I felt could support something

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<v Speaker 11>like a sasquatch. It wasn't until twenty eighteen here in

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<v Speaker 11>the Olympics. Me and my wife were camping up on

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<v Speaker 11>Lake Crescent and it was our very last night. It

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<v Speaker 11>was actually seven years ago yesterday. It was the typical

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<v Speaker 11>Pacific northwest, misty, dreary type weather. We had just laid

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<v Speaker 11>down and we heard what I can only describe as

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<v Speaker 11>the Ohio how the long call that I've always heard

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<v Speaker 11>on all the videos and everything when you google sasquatch

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<v Speaker 11>or sounds and stuff that pops up. So I was

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<v Speaker 11>just like messing with us, calling us back, saying you

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<v Speaker 11>got to come back again. So in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 11>we had the opportunity to move here, we took it.

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<v Speaker 12>We jumped on it.

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<v Speaker 11>I would go out and I would look, and I

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<v Speaker 11>would find things out there in the forest, deep in

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<v Speaker 11>the bush, just enough to keep you wanting more, what

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<v Speaker 11>I would call circumstantial evidence. I never imagined that it

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<v Speaker 11>would be a visit that my parents met here that

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<v Speaker 11>would change everything for us.

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<v Speaker 12>That's when we started having activity on the property.

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<v Speaker 11>But we assumed it was a bear up until they

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<v Speaker 11>were here and there was no more assuming it was.

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<v Speaker 8>What it was it was really wild.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's definitely get into that. I love wild setting.

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<v Speaker 6>The stage four us about the property, where it's located,

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<v Speaker 6>how much property you guys have, because that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 6>This is an audio podcast and people need that visual

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<v Speaker 6>of understanding what we're talking about here. That's something I say,

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<v Speaker 6>we have forty acres here in North Carolina. I talk

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<v Speaker 6>about forty acres and people are go like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 6>that's a lot of land.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is.

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<v Speaker 6>But there is a ton of property around us that

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<v Speaker 6>surrounds us, so it feels more like we're in the

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<v Speaker 6>middle of six acres. Get into the parents' visit, what

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<v Speaker 6>happened during that and what sort of set all this

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<v Speaker 6>in motion. But before we get there, paint the picture

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<v Speaker 6>for everybody on the property, where it's located, and what

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<v Speaker 6>we're talking about in the area.

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<v Speaker 11>So the property is actually here on the Quinault Indian Reservation,

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<v Speaker 11>and that's on the west coast of the Olympic Peninsula.

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<v Speaker 11>If you were to travel south from here, it would

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<v Speaker 11>take you about forty five minutes to an hour to

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<v Speaker 11>get to a town called Aberdeen.

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<v Speaker 12>That would be the closest town that we have.

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<v Speaker 11>If you travel north, it would take you about an

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<v Speaker 11>hour and a half to get to Forks, Washington. A

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<v Speaker 11>lot of people are familiar with Forks because of the

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<v Speaker 11>Twilight series, so there's really absolutely nothing here. If you

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<v Speaker 11>look at the population, it says there's like one hundred

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<v Speaker 11>and something plus people, but most of those are landowners.

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<v Speaker 11>There's actually just a very small handful of us that

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<v Speaker 11>actually live here a year round on the lake. The summertime,

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<v Speaker 11>it's super packed because of the lake and it's Olympic

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<v Speaker 11>National Park. There's over a million acres of wilderness that's

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<v Speaker 11>around us. The other nine months of the year, when

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<v Speaker 11>it's rainy and dreary, there's nobody. It's just rainforest. It's wet.

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<v Speaker 11>You said, your typical Pacific Northwest weather here, very desolate, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, let's get into the parents visit. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 6>the impetus for all the activity and the things that have.

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<v Speaker 7>Been going on the property.

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<v Speaker 11>My parents and they came to visit. We had just

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<v Speaker 11>moved into this house and it's right on the edge

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<v Speaker 11>of the tree line. There's actually a couple of cabins

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<v Speaker 11>on the property and it's about thirty thirty five acres

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<v Speaker 11>give or take. It's mostly surrounded by forest. The rainforest

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<v Speaker 11>sits right off of one on one on Lake Quinault.

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<v Speaker 11>We had just moved into the house closest to the

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<v Speaker 11>tree line because we needed three bedroom because we had a.

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<v Speaker 8>Baby on the way.

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<v Speaker 11>That very next week after we had moved in here,

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<v Speaker 11>that's when my parents decided to show up in the house.

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<v Speaker 11>We were still working on it. It was still it

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<v Speaker 11>was a big fixer upper project. It had been a

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<v Speaker 11>party house or something for years before we got it,

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<v Speaker 11>so it needed a lot of love. I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 11>That very first night, we were having a good time.

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<v Speaker 12>And we took our.

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<v Speaker 11>We got the window open because we don't have AC

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<v Speaker 11>She goes, do you hear that? I said, what are

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<v Speaker 11>someone right outside the window. I said, there's lots of

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<v Speaker 11>things right outside of the window. It's a whole rain

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<v Speaker 11>I heard very clearly, a very distinct whistle. So now

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<v Speaker 11>I'm thinking there's a person out there. This didn't sound

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<v Speaker 2>This was not like that.

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<v Speaker 11>So now the lieutenant in me is perked up and

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<v Speaker 12>So I lay there a little bit longer. Nothing I

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<v Speaker 11>I'm thinking maybe a drifter or somebody just passing through

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<v Speaker 12>Time, and they're just wandering around out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 12>The next morn I get up in my parents. They're

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<v Speaker 12>To give you a little background on him, he's been

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<v Speaker 12>Nothing really rattles him. He's pretty solid and I could

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<v Speaker 12>tell someone to bother him. So I asked him how

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<v Speaker 12>was your night? When they so it was a night,

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<v Speaker 12>he said, how is your knight? And I told him

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<v Speaker 12>what had happened and he goes, okay, and he looked

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<v Speaker 12>at my stepmam, and he goes, that was around the

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<v Speaker 12>same time already, it will happened.

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<v Speaker 11>And I said, well, what happened with y'all? And he

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<v Speaker 11>still something walked up to your window unit and I

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<v Speaker 11>started banging on it real hard. He said, real aggressive,

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<v Speaker 11>and I said really, I said, I said, have you

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<v Speaker 11>been over there yet?

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<v Speaker 12>He said, no, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 11>I said, let's walk over there. So me and him

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<v Speaker 11>go to walk over there, and in the grass there

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<v Speaker 11>are these seventeen inch impressions in the grass, one in

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<v Speaker 11>front of the other, coming from the road up along

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<v Speaker 11>the tree line. Now our bedrooms are right on the

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<v Speaker 11>tree line. Yeah, he comes right up to the window unit.

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<v Speaker 11>We actually found the rock that was being used to

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<v Speaker 11>strike the window unit. And then it came around the

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<v Speaker 11>backside of where I mapped behind me now and wandered

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<v Speaker 11>off around the side of the house and then back onto.

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<v Speaker 12>The street again and disappeared. That was really a trip

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<v Speaker 12>for me.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm like, man, I've been going out there looking for

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<v Speaker 11>these things with a knocking that takes dexterity.

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<v Speaker 12>Let pick up a rock. It's not something a bear

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<v Speaker 12>could do. The whistling, and then of course the impressions.

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<v Speaker 11>It was just a very surreal moment that, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 11>this thing visited us, came to our property.

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<v Speaker 12>And I think a lot of it has to do

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<v Speaker 12>with what we were doing that night, our activities.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to go back to the whistle and I

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<v Speaker 6>asked this specifically. We could talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 6>why I'm asking this specifically later on, But what was

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<v Speaker 6>the whistle that you heard initially, because if it didn't

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<v Speaker 6>sound like a bird, was it, Like, Hey, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 7>A very good whistler. I don't know if you're a

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<v Speaker 7>good whistler or not, but I'm.

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<v Speaker 8>Not a good whistler.

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<v Speaker 11>But it's kind of like when you're on the construction

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<v Speaker 11>site and you hear them whistle to get someone's attention.

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<v Speaker 12>That high pitched.

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<v Speaker 11>That's exactly what it sounded like to me, and that's

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<v Speaker 11>what caught my attention. Okay, it was sharp, it was.

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<v Speaker 12>Fast, and it was loud.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Bears definitely don't whistle, and they don't pick up

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<v Speaker 6>rocks and beat on things with rocks. So I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 6>tracking that it wasn't a bear. As far as the

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<v Speaker 6>impress if it's anything like here, I've been out to

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<v Speaker 6>the Pacific Northwest. I've been on the Olympic Peninsula just

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<v Speaker 6>a few months ago, so I'm familiar with the area

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<v Speaker 6>and the substrate and it's similar to what we have

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<v Speaker 6>here in North Carolina and a lot of ways. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 6>if it's moist out, you're going to get better impressions

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<v Speaker 6>and whatnot. But talk a little bit about these impressions

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<v Speaker 6>that you found, these seventeen inch impressions that were in

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<v Speaker 6>the grass. Could you make out that it looked like

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<v Speaker 6>a humanoid footprint?

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<v Speaker 7>Did you have tow definition?

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<v Speaker 11>It had a human shape, but it as far as

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<v Speaker 11>making out toes and that I couldn't really do that

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<v Speaker 11>because this occurred at the end of June, so it's

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<v Speaker 11>pretty dry here. So it was just big flat spots

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<v Speaker 11>in the grass. But they were a human shaped footprints.

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<v Speaker 11>You could say maybe that was a bear, but it

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<v Speaker 11>was the other things that led up and surrounding the event,

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<v Speaker 11>and the fact that they were also they were about

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<v Speaker 11>three three and a half feet apart from each other

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<v Speaker 11>and directly in front of one another, So that wasn't

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<v Speaker 11>really what I'm familiar with when I see bear tracks,

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<v Speaker 11>and I've seen a lot of bear Matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 11>we got a bear running around here right now.

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<v Speaker 7>Have no fear.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll watch your back for you. If anything's coming up,

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<v Speaker 6>I'll yell really loud, unmeet my mind and say watch.

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<v Speaker 13>Now.

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<v Speaker 12>He's a pretty friendly bear. He's scary and when I

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<v Speaker 12>say scary and he's scared of people, he darts off.

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<v Speaker 12>He for the most part don't bother nobody.

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<v Speaker 6>Those are definitely my favorite types of bear. So you

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<v Speaker 6>have this experience, you hear the whistle. Obviously, I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 6>your parents were freaked out that something was beating on

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<v Speaker 6>the window unit and you're finding these seventeen inch footprints

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<v Speaker 6>outside the area. What was the next time you had

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<v Speaker 6>an experience with this thing on your property?

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<v Speaker 12>It was all throughout the week.

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<v Speaker 11>We would spend the evenings outside on the porch and

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<v Speaker 11>just be talking on having a good time. You would

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<v Speaker 11>hear the bullfrogs and other things going off the normal sounds,

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<v Speaker 11>and then occasionally it would just go dead silent. There

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<v Speaker 11>would be nothing, and it was just the creepiest thing.

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<v Speaker 8>Ever.

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<v Speaker 11>I can't say that it's related to big foot. It's

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<v Speaker 11>just something that we noticed that was different going on

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<v Speaker 11>at that time. So that they leave, and then it's

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<v Speaker 11>two nights after they leave our kitchen window. When I

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<v Speaker 11>told you we just moved into this place, we had

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<v Speaker 11>only been in it at that point. Now, after they

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<v Speaker 11>left for about two weeks, so the kitchen window was

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<v Speaker 11>busted out and we were waiting on a new kitchen

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<v Speaker 11>window to come in. But because the house is sold,

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<v Speaker 11>It's still not clicking that maybe it's sasquatch there I'm

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<v Speaker 11>Right there be in the kitchen window. I'm looking and

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<v Speaker 11>I'm watching this to my daughter. She's seven at the time.

425
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<v Speaker 11>She can running out of her room and she goes,

426
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<v Speaker 11>I know you're trying to sneak on me. And I

427
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<v Speaker 11>said do what and she said yeah, She said, you're

428
00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:10.039
<v Speaker 11>trying to sound You're trying to you're outside my window,

429
00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:13.359
<v Speaker 11>trying to talk like some kind of zombie choking or something.

430
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<v Speaker 11>And I said, at that time, I noticed the window

431
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<v Speaker 11>had stopped moving to whatever was there when she come

432
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<v Speaker 11>into the kitchen and I said, I'm not messing with you.

433
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<v Speaker 12>I am getting to drink water. I'm not playing it.

434
00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:26.440
<v Speaker 12>And she said, yeah, you were outside my window. I said, no,

435
00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:27.160
<v Speaker 12>I wasn't.

436
00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:29.799
<v Speaker 11>I've been right here. She stopped for me, and then

437
00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.160
<v Speaker 11>she realized. That's when it occurred to me that there

438
00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:34.599
<v Speaker 11>had to be two of these things. So next morning

439
00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:36.640
<v Speaker 11>we go outside and we check around the property and

440
00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:39.279
<v Speaker 11>around the house. The seventeen inch track and then there's

441
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<v Speaker 11>a thirteen inch track.

442
00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:43.279
<v Speaker 12>So I was like, wow, so there was two of

443
00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:46.359
<v Speaker 12>them here. That night after that, I put up a

444
00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:47.039
<v Speaker 12>ring camera.

445
00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:49.839
<v Speaker 11>I set it up on the porch where they've been

446
00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:53.279
<v Speaker 11>coming and going from, and we actually captured it. I

447
00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:55.279
<v Speaker 11>can't go too much into that because that's going to

448
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<v Speaker 11>be televised on network. There's a little NDA thing off camera,

449
00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:01.400
<v Speaker 11>off the show. I'll tell you about it. But yeah,

450
00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:04.440
<v Speaker 11>that's when we really realized. We were like, oh wow,

451
00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:07.400
<v Speaker 11>there it is and it was a very surreal moment.

452
00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:10.400
<v Speaker 11>And they've just been coming up that. It's not a

453
00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:13.119
<v Speaker 11>regular thing that they do. I guess you could say

454
00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:15.640
<v Speaker 11>it's off and on over the last three years that

455
00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:19.480
<v Speaker 11>they've been coming onto the property. Sometimes you'll come outside

456
00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:20.519
<v Speaker 11>and you'll just find.

457
00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:23.039
<v Speaker 12>Like little tracks. You'll find tree brakes.

458
00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:26.200
<v Speaker 11>Right here behind me, one of these trees is constantly

459
00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.200
<v Speaker 11>getting the limbs just snapped. But it's not really a snap.

460
00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:32.960
<v Speaker 11>It's more a twist and downward. It's not like an

461
00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:36.279
<v Speaker 11>actual snap. And we'll find them all along the tree line.

462
00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:38.960
<v Speaker 11>But they're nowhere else you can go into the woods.

463
00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:42.279
<v Speaker 11>They're not in the woods. We just actually did a

464
00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:46.519
<v Speaker 11>little expedition, little exploratory thing because we never really pushed

465
00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:49.480
<v Speaker 11>far back onto the property because it's so thick.

466
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<v Speaker 12>So I had the Thomas Sweede with the Sasquatch Island.

467
00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:57.319
<v Speaker 11>He came down with some of his crew and we

468
00:21:57.440 --> 00:21:59.200
<v Speaker 11>went back up in there and we actually found a

469
00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:03.680
<v Speaker 11>whole set of trails that open up back there. It

470
00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:08.960
<v Speaker 11>just really amazes me at how great of links these

471
00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:13.200
<v Speaker 11>things go through to really conceal what they're doing. What

472
00:22:13.480 --> 00:22:16.079
<v Speaker 11>I thought for the longest time was a little bear

473
00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:19.039
<v Speaker 11>path going into the woods. Once we went through, because

474
00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:20.920
<v Speaker 11>he darted off in there, he goes, I think this

475
00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:23.279
<v Speaker 11>is where they're coming in and out at. So we

476
00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:25.680
<v Speaker 11>go through there, I'm like, this is a bear trail.

477
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<v Speaker 11>It got just through the other side of it. It's

478
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<v Speaker 11>a little opening. It opened up into this big trail,

479
00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:34.759
<v Speaker 11>this big game trail, and then we started finding tracks.

480
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<v Speaker 11>That was the other exciting thing. We found an area

481
00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:41.079
<v Speaker 11>where something had been laying down eating on some shin trails.

482
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<v Speaker 11>That was really super exciting. We just did that this

483
00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:46.599
<v Speaker 11>past weekend. So now we're going to use one of

484
00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:49.960
<v Speaker 11>these other houses as a stakeout, set up a little thing,

485
00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:52.640
<v Speaker 11>and see if we can't maybe catch them coming out

486
00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:54.440
<v Speaker 11>to visit my house.

487
00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:56.920
<v Speaker 12>Some pretty exciting stuff happening there.

488
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it definitely sounds like it.

489
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<v Speaker 6>I have to ask, because we've had activity here on

490
00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:05.440
<v Speaker 6>our land in North Carolina. And it's a little bit unnerving,

491
00:23:05.559 --> 00:23:08.359
<v Speaker 6>to be honest, some of the vocalizations you mentioned the

492
00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:10.799
<v Speaker 6>Ohio Howell earlier. That's one of the first things that

493
00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:14.640
<v Speaker 6>we heard here five years ago when we first got

494
00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:19.160
<v Speaker 6>onto the property. And it's unnerving to hear that even

495
00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:21.200
<v Speaker 6>at a distance. We heard it in the distance in

496
00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:24.000
<v Speaker 6>the beginning, and then here at forty fifty yards into

497
00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:24.599
<v Speaker 6>the woods here.

498
00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:25.359
<v Speaker 8>Wow.

499
00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:28.400
<v Speaker 7>I always joked that people they say, Wow, did you

500
00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:29.960
<v Speaker 7>go out and check it out when you heard that?

501
00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:34.599
<v Speaker 7>I'm like, no, I didn't. I have no wants or desires.

502
00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:37.519
<v Speaker 6>To be standing face to face over one of these things,

503
00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:41.640
<v Speaker 6>especially in the dark, not knowing what it is. Having

504
00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:44.359
<v Speaker 6>a good idea, but not knowing exactly what you're dealing

505
00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:47.240
<v Speaker 6>with here. How has that been for you as a

506
00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:49.960
<v Speaker 6>family man with a wife and a couple of kids.

507
00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:53.839
<v Speaker 6>That's one of those things that makes me really anxious

508
00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:57.759
<v Speaker 6>because I document obviously your daughter thought you were outside

509
00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:01.000
<v Speaker 6>her window messing with Harvey. There's so many stories that

510
00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:03.960
<v Speaker 6>I hear about these things looking into windows.

511
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:06.839
<v Speaker 7>Some people have even claimed men in children and that

512
00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:09.079
<v Speaker 7>they've taken children and taken people.

513
00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:12.799
<v Speaker 6>How have you dealt with that outside of your research hat,

514
00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:15.759
<v Speaker 6>just as a dad does. It unnerve you knowing that

515
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:19.920
<v Speaker 6>this is going on where you guys live around your house.

516
00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:24.119
<v Speaker 11>So in the beginning, it was very unnerving, especially hearing

517
00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:26.559
<v Speaker 11>working with the native tribes, because I've worked with a

518
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:28.880
<v Speaker 11>lot of the indigenous people here on the Peninsula and

519
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:32.200
<v Speaker 11>listening to some of their stories. The Quinault have a

520
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.359
<v Speaker 11>little different take than some of the other ones, but

521
00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:38.119
<v Speaker 11>some of the other tribes have more of a nefurious

522
00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:41.799
<v Speaker 11>type characters with these things. The first thing that I

523
00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:44.480
<v Speaker 11>did initially once I saw the ring was we definitely

524
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:47.880
<v Speaker 11>upgraded our security camera. We got the floodlights. We put

525
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:50.920
<v Speaker 11>flood lights up all around the house, all over the property.

526
00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:54.200
<v Speaker 11>Actually there's some sections of the property that I have

527
00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:58.319
<v Speaker 11>left free and clear of the floodlights, just because I

528
00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:01.039
<v Speaker 11>want them to know that, hey, you can have that, but.

529
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:03.759
<v Speaker 12>This over here is mine. Like I said, in the beginning,

530
00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:05.880
<v Speaker 12>it was really unnerving.

531
00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:08.599
<v Speaker 11>But as time has gone on, I think that if

532
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:12.079
<v Speaker 11>these things really wanted to do harm, obviously I'm not

533
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:14.480
<v Speaker 11>going to stop them, especially after seeing what I've seen.

534
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:17.680
<v Speaker 11>Actually had a sighting and up close sighting back in

535
00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:21.319
<v Speaker 11>February driving on one oh one on the back side

536
00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:23.960
<v Speaker 11>of the property. I think it was trying to cross

537
00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:26.839
<v Speaker 11>over and go up to a mountain range on the

538
00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:28.640
<v Speaker 11>other side, headed down towards the coast.

539
00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:30.039
<v Speaker 12>Seeing what I saw.

540
00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:31.799
<v Speaker 11>If it wants in the house, there's not a lot

541
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:33.359
<v Speaker 11>that I can do to stop it, even with the

542
00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:35.799
<v Speaker 11>gun that I have. You would have to have something

543
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:39.279
<v Speaker 11>like a thirty six, I think, to really stop that

544
00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:42.319
<v Speaker 11>thing if it really wanted to get you. Like I

545
00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:44.920
<v Speaker 11>said it, in the beginning, it was scary, but now

546
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:47.720
<v Speaker 11>it's kind of like calming, If that makes sense.

547
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:50.640
<v Speaker 6>I'd understand it, because when you have things going on,

548
00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:54.839
<v Speaker 6>not constantly, but enough, you can get used to it

549
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.519
<v Speaker 6>in a way. It's just one of those things that's there.

550
00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:00.839
<v Speaker 6>I'm always aware of it when I'm out in the woods.

551
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:02.880
<v Speaker 6>I never just let my guard down when I'm out

552
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.200
<v Speaker 6>walking the dogs or whatever. I'm always head on a

553
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.680
<v Speaker 6>swivel kind of thing. Let's talk a little bit about

554
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.279
<v Speaker 6>the siding that you had while you were driving. Could

555
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:11.960
<v Speaker 6>you take us back to what you were doing and

556
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.799
<v Speaker 6>tell us what happened during that siding and what you saw.

557
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.039
<v Speaker 11>Yet it was ten o'clock in the morning, which really

558
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:20.200
<v Speaker 11>surprised me. For the time of day, it was clear

559
00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:21.119
<v Speaker 11>to clear skies.

560
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:21.559
<v Speaker 12>Nothing.

561
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:24.119
<v Speaker 11>I think there was a little bit of snow melt

562
00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:27.079
<v Speaker 11>because we just had some snow. It doesn't really stick

563
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:30.519
<v Speaker 11>here a whole lot, like people would think about Washington,

564
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 11>but here on the Olympics, if you're up in the

565
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:34.279
<v Speaker 11>higher elevations, it will be down where we live. It's

566
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:37.000
<v Speaker 11>here today and then gone tomorrow. I was just headed

567
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:39.039
<v Speaker 11>to the store to get some sausage. There's a little

568
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:42.599
<v Speaker 11>corner store up the road from us, a little mercantile.

569
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:45.359
<v Speaker 11>I was just headed up there, and I got just

570
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 11>past the school on the right, on the back side

571
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:51.359
<v Speaker 11>of our property that comes up to one on one,

572
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:54.480
<v Speaker 11>there was just a group of older trees.

573
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:57.000
<v Speaker 12>I noticed the because they were at that time of year.

574
00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:57.680
<v Speaker 12>They're just bear.

575
00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:01.359
<v Speaker 11>There's nothing there. I saw, just stand then, just stiff

576
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:06.160
<v Speaker 11>as could be, very statueisque. It was a cinnamon, an

577
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 11>ashy cinnamon color. What I saw did not quite look

578
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.920
<v Speaker 11>like what people described when they like, you see Patty

579
00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:15.960
<v Speaker 11>and you got the big conical, the sagittal crests and

580
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:18.920
<v Speaker 11>the big muscu lyrically they talk about being ripped. I

581
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.920
<v Speaker 11>didn't see all that. What I saw looked at like

582
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.640
<v Speaker 11>an oversized chimpanzee to me, but with a human face.

583
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.359
<v Speaker 11>It had a very human face. The scalp of it

584
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:33.799
<v Speaker 11>just a little bit of a dung. Even the upper

585
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.599
<v Speaker 11>body for the main body, the center mass was just flat.

586
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.160
<v Speaker 11>Wasn't ripped eight pack six pack or no big gut

587
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 11>hanging like the Paul Freeman video. It was just very

588
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:49.440
<v Speaker 11>slim and lean looking. But what I do remember most

589
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:51.680
<v Speaker 11>about it though, was that the legs. The legs were

590
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:56.680
<v Speaker 11>really super thick, almost misproportioned, and I'm not sure that

591
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:00.319
<v Speaker 11>was so much from the hair. The way the hair

592
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:02.200
<v Speaker 11>was on it that caused it to look like that

593
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:05.839
<v Speaker 11>being thicker maybe down there since they're moving through the brush,

594
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:07.680
<v Speaker 11>but that's what it looked like to me. But the

595
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.720
<v Speaker 11>nose is what stands out the most to me because

596
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:14.920
<v Speaker 11>it was very It was like a broad nose, but flared.

597
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.160
<v Speaker 11>It wasn't like a gorilla and not like a chimp,

598
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 11>not a flat I mean, it was like human and

599
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:23.279
<v Speaker 11>it had very little hair around the eyes and the

600
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 11>mouth and the nose part.

601
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 12>The lips were very flat.

602
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.559
<v Speaker 11>I'm not sure if it was pressing them together because

603
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:34.240
<v Speaker 11>I was there The whole thing lasted maybe ten fifteen seconds.

604
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.000
<v Speaker 12>They said, I was driving and I just looked over.

605
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:38.519
<v Speaker 12>I was like, oh, there's the thing.

606
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:38.839
<v Speaker 13>Man.

607
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:41.319
<v Speaker 14>I got to the store, I called.

608
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:42.759
<v Speaker 12>I said, you're not gonna believe what I saw.

609
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 11>I remember the skin being a milky gray color. It

610
00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 11>wasn't black like a gorilla's can like a chimp, so

611
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:50.599
<v Speaker 11>it was more of a milky gray.

612
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:54.119
<v Speaker 6>Let's talk a little bit about your approach to the

613
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.440
<v Speaker 6>research end of these things, because there is obviously this

614
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:01.240
<v Speaker 6>divide that comes up in the community between the high

615
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 6>strangeness flesh and blood the APOR community. I certainly have

616
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:10.200
<v Speaker 6>planted my flag pretty much dead center in I believe

617
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 6>these things are some sort of relic tomanoid. I think

618
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.880
<v Speaker 6>they're upright walking. I don't think they're necessarily an ape.

619
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.920
<v Speaker 6>I think there's something very similar to us. But where

620
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 6>are you as far as your research is concerned. You

621
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 6>mentioned earlier working a lot with the Native American tribes

622
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:27.960
<v Speaker 6>in the area. They in some cases tend to have

623
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:31.680
<v Speaker 6>As you pointed out earlier, you talk to different tribes,

624
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 6>even sometimes at different members of the same tribe, and

625
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:39.920
<v Speaker 6>they'll have different interpretations of these creatures. Sometimes they are

626
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:43.200
<v Speaker 6>very animalistic. Sometimes they're very flesh and blood. Sometimes they're

627
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:48.960
<v Speaker 6>very spiritual, and they're seen more as a spiritual sort

628
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:51.400
<v Speaker 6>of a land spirit, if you will, Where are you

629
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 6>and how do you approach this as far as your

630
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:57.759
<v Speaker 6>research is concerned into the subject, based on what you've

631
00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 6>seen and experienced and heard and talk talk to these

632
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.480
<v Speaker 6>Native American tribes? Where are you on the research? Are

633
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:05.759
<v Speaker 6>you more of a flesh and blood researcher? Are you

634
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 6>looking at both sides of this? Where are you on

635
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:10.640
<v Speaker 6>the flesh and blood versus the highest strange ess?

636
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<v Speaker 12>So I definitely believe that it's flesh and blood. I

637
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.839
<v Speaker 12>haven't seen anything that would suggest otherwise.

638
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.559
<v Speaker 11>We've got footprints, we've got audio, we've got eyewitness testimonies.

639
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:27.079
<v Speaker 11>We've got in some cases I haven't been able to

640
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 11>look at it myself, but hair samples, I'm told there's

641
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:32.680
<v Speaker 11>things that are left smudges.

642
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:33.920
<v Speaker 12>And handprints and stuff like that on the glass.

643
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<v Speaker 11>So I'm definitely the flesh and blood type, and I

644
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.759
<v Speaker 11>believe that it's probably something that's going to be really

645
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:45.359
<v Speaker 11>close between human and our primate. That's just from what

646
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.240
<v Speaker 11>I've seen, But a lot of the indigenous tribes here

647
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:50.960
<v Speaker 11>on the Olympic Peninsula. They definitely believe that they are

648
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 11>a type of force people like their own tribe, that

649
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:57.720
<v Speaker 11>they are people. It's hard to grasp for some people

650
00:30:57.799 --> 00:30:59.319
<v Speaker 11>that look at this thing and say, no, it's got

651
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.160
<v Speaker 11>to be an animal. But when you get out there

652
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 11>in the field and see some of the things that

653
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.519
<v Speaker 11>I've seen, see the link that these things go through

654
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 11>can conceal themselves from us when they get close to

655
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 11>urban areas, not so much out there in the bush,

656
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:18.160
<v Speaker 11>but close to urban areas or populated areas. That level

657
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:20.720
<v Speaker 11>of awareness that they have, I've seen where they will

658
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 11>go to step on something that's soft and then step

659
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:30.240
<v Speaker 11>off of it and continue on hard substraight instead of

660
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 11>going on the soft substraight. Or they'll go around certain

661
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.200
<v Speaker 11>things to avoid maybe a camera or something. So just

662
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.519
<v Speaker 11>that level of awareness definitely makes you feel like you're

663
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.079
<v Speaker 11>dealing with a person. Some of the native tribes here

664
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:46.279
<v Speaker 11>step on and believe in the more spiritual route that

665
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:50.759
<v Speaker 11>they come and go these protectors, and that you're blessed

666
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 11>if you have encounters with them, that they've chosen you.

667
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:59.240
<v Speaker 11>You're a chosen person for whatever reason. Nobody knows, but yeah,

668
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 11>for me, research and my eyewitnesses that I've spoke to.

669
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 11>For now, I'm sticking to flesh and blood, something maybe

670
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:07.640
<v Speaker 11>a cross between humanity.

671
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 6>Let's talk about that, because I was That's one of

672
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 6>the other questions I was going to get into and

673
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 6>ask you about, because this is something that's interesting to me.

674
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 6>You mentioned it with the Native American and the indigenous

675
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:22.680
<v Speaker 6>people believing that these things somehow choose people to show

676
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.839
<v Speaker 6>themselves too. That's something that's very interesting to me. I

677
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 6>have had experiences very much like you. I'm under an

678
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:31.079
<v Speaker 6>nda that I really can't talk about my experiences that

679
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:34.400
<v Speaker 6>I had out in the PNW just a couple of

680
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:37.039
<v Speaker 6>months back that I'm dying to share with people that

681
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 6>I just can't. But having those kind of experiences, there

682
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:43.200
<v Speaker 6>are people that have been in this for fifty years plus.

683
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:44.519
<v Speaker 7>Peter Burn comes to mind.

684
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:47.480
<v Speaker 6>I think I was probably the last person to interview

685
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.079
<v Speaker 6>Peter before he passed away just a couple of years ago,

686
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:53.079
<v Speaker 6>and he had never so much as even found a

687
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 6>footprint of one of these things after.

688
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:58.079
<v Speaker 7>Fifty sixty years in the woods. Yet you got them

689
00:32:58.119 --> 00:32:59.160
<v Speaker 7>coming up to your house.

690
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<v Speaker 11>It's funny that you mentioned it because I looked at

691
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:03.440
<v Speaker 11>a lot of his research. I've looked at a lot

692
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.079
<v Speaker 11>of what the Four Horsemen John green Krantz. I looked

693
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 11>at all of them and what they've done, and I've

694
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:11.400
<v Speaker 11>tried to take what they've done and learn from it

695
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.559
<v Speaker 11>and then try to maybe go a different approach. But

696
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:17.480
<v Speaker 11>Peter Burn, one of the things that I heard him

697
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:19.640
<v Speaker 11>say once was that he said, these people that have

698
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.400
<v Speaker 11>these reoccurring things, I don't believe that you'd be lucky

699
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 11>if you see one, because I haven't seen you talked

700
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:26.039
<v Speaker 11>about his footprint thing.

701
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 12>So I heard that, and I used to be on

702
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:29.480
<v Speaker 12>the same boat with him.

703
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 11>I would hear these podcasts and these shows where these

704
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:34.119
<v Speaker 11>people had similar experiences to like what we're having.

705
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:36.960
<v Speaker 12>I say out, they're crazy, man, they're out there doors helping.

706
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 11>And what I think it is, I think that, especially

707
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:43.400
<v Speaker 11>in my research, there are a lot of You've been

708
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:45.440
<v Speaker 11>out here on the Olympic Peninsula, so you know that

709
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.759
<v Speaker 11>the communities are very isolated and very small like where

710
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.440
<v Speaker 11>I live, and they're distant.

711
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.880
<v Speaker 12>There's some distance between him twenty thirty miles.

712
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.440
<v Speaker 11>You go up the road, you've got a place called Queats,

713
00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.440
<v Speaker 11>and they have very similar experiences. Once you get to

714
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.119
<v Speaker 11>talking to these people. I'm not the only one that's

715
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.880
<v Speaker 11>having the same experience. My neighbors have similar experiences that

716
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 11>we do, so we're not the only ones in the neighborhood.

717
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:10.679
<v Speaker 11>It's not like they just came to us and we're

718
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 11>super special. I'm finding that in these small rural areas,

719
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 11>it's it's a common theme.

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<v Speaker 12>And what I believe is happening is I believe that.

721
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:27.920
<v Speaker 11>These Sasquatches have adapted to living next to us, like

722
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 11>what we saw during COVID with a lot of wildlife.

723
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:34.079
<v Speaker 12>They moved in closer to the cities and.

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00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:36.440
<v Speaker 6>Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll be

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<v Speaker 12>Because they learned that they could get resources easier.

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<v Speaker 11>That was observed and a lot of places throughout the

775
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:21.639
<v Speaker 11>world during COVID know something that people never really paid

776
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:22.679
<v Speaker 11>attention to because we're just.

777
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.719
<v Speaker 12>Going going all the time. I think that they've been here.

778
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.880
<v Speaker 11>I don't think that we're doing anything special. I think

779
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.719
<v Speaker 11>it's that we're just attracting them more. I think they're

780
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 11>staying away from the large areas. I think they go

781
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:39.079
<v Speaker 11>out into the bush to do their thing, maybe may breed, reproduce,

782
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:41.760
<v Speaker 11>and then that for the most part, they come back

783
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 11>in when the tourists leave. I think for the most part,

784
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.360
<v Speaker 11>when the tourists leave, they come back in and they

785
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:50.280
<v Speaker 11>hang out and they learn. They'll eat their shellfish and

786
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 11>their salmon stuff out of the river, but when that

787
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.000
<v Speaker 11>stuff gets low, they'll go, Okay, let's go raid the

788
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:55.800
<v Speaker 11>trash can and let's go see what's what's going on.

789
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.599
<v Speaker 11>Because I've actually found trash cans where bags were completely

790
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:05.760
<v Speaker 11>taken can and almost untied, not to apart like the

791
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.639
<v Speaker 11>way of bearwood or a raccoon or anything like that.

792
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:11.280
<v Speaker 11>But you know, a lot of people don't think twice

793
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:12.840
<v Speaker 11>about it. They just grab it, throw it back in.

794
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.039
<v Speaker 11>You know, some dog got into it or something. Until

795
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:17.719
<v Speaker 11>you look at it a little closer than you go. Well,

796
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 11>any minute that's you know, that's odd how that was

797
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 11>all just placed there. So I Mills Skahan. I think

798
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:27.360
<v Speaker 11>he said one time that you don't find them, they

799
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.400
<v Speaker 11>find you, and I think he's absolutely right. I don't

800
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:34.639
<v Speaker 11>think it's that they're particularly drawn to any one person,

801
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 11>They're just drawn to human activity in general.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I definitely think you're right.

803
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:41.440
<v Speaker 6>When I first got into this, I've talked about it

804
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:43.559
<v Speaker 6>so many times on the podcast and as a guest

805
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 6>on other shows in the past. I used to think

806
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.480
<v Speaker 6>that these things are primarily in the Pacific Northwest, and

807
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:50.360
<v Speaker 6>I thought you had to be twenty miles deep in

808
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:52.440
<v Speaker 6>the woods to have some sort of experience.

809
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:54.320
<v Speaker 7>But that is not the case.

810
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.760
<v Speaker 6>It's been more and more very much like our situation here.

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00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.159
<v Speaker 6>We are on an edge that has been cut into

812
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:04.800
<v Speaker 6>the wilderness, where I have neighbors that are nearby, about

813
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.119
<v Speaker 6>a mile away up the road. We have our forty

814
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.599
<v Speaker 6>acres here that we have placed a house on, We've

815
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.320
<v Speaker 6>got a well, we've got power, and then we start

816
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 6>having this activity. We didn't have this activity for the

817
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:16.840
<v Speaker 6>first couple of years that we owned the property. We

818
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:18.880
<v Speaker 6>came up here, we lived off grid for almost a

819
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 6>year and a half before we had a well before

820
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 6>we had power. Then once all of that stuff happened,

821
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 6>we started having the activity.

822
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:27.639
<v Speaker 8>So it's really.

823
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<v Speaker 6>Strange to me that it appears like you very much

824
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:32.119
<v Speaker 6>like you said, it may not be strange at all.

825
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:35.639
<v Speaker 6>I guess it's just simply the human activity that draws

826
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:39.280
<v Speaker 6>these things in. And you don't have to be eighteen

827
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:41.519
<v Speaker 6>miles deep in the woods to have an experience I've

828
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.239
<v Speaker 6>had that. I was out on expedition with Todd's Standing

829
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 6>last year up in Radium last October, just a little

830
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 6>over a year ago, and had experience is there that

831
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:53.239
<v Speaker 6>I can't explain. I didn't see one, but I had

832
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:56.360
<v Speaker 6>that experience out in the Pacific Northwest just a couple

833
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:59.280
<v Speaker 6>of months ago. We weren't miles deep in the woods.

834
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<v Speaker 6>We were in an area that would be considered very rule,

835
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:06.199
<v Speaker 6>but we were on an edge. There was a pretty

836
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<v Speaker 6>major road just a couple of miles away from where

837
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.119
<v Speaker 6>we were, and yet we had all this activity, the

838
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.199
<v Speaker 6>whistles and all the things that happened there. It's just

839
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:18.920
<v Speaker 6>fascinating to me that it seems these things are coming

840
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<v Speaker 6>more and more into areas. I've interviewed people who have

841
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<v Speaker 6>literally lived in a cul de sac in a pretty

842
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:28.559
<v Speaker 6>residential area that backs up to the woods, and these

843
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.679
<v Speaker 6>things seem to be coming in and investigating. People are

844
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.920
<v Speaker 6>having these experiences. So I think it's fascinating that you

845
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.079
<v Speaker 6>don't have to be twenty miles deep in the woods

846
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.119
<v Speaker 6>to have an experience. I'm not saying everybody who lives

847
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:40.840
<v Speaker 6>in a cul de sac with a bunch of houses

848
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:43.840
<v Speaker 6>around you just going to have big here. That's probably

849
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<v Speaker 6>more rare than you would hope for some people would hope.

850
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:50.639
<v Speaker 6>Let me ask you this, as far as your research

851
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:53.280
<v Speaker 6>is concerned. You've had these experiences, You've seen one of

852
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:57.079
<v Speaker 6>these things, You've captured it sounds like obviously we can't

853
00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:58.920
<v Speaker 6>get into it deepen the weeds on it, but it

854
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.920
<v Speaker 6>sounds like you've captured on video and or a still

855
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:05.440
<v Speaker 6>photograph of one. You've had footprints all this event and

856
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.960
<v Speaker 6>it's similar to me and some of the experiences I've

857
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 6>had as well. What drives you to continue your research?

858
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:16.159
<v Speaker 6>Are you all about proving that these things are real

859
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 6>to other people? Are you wanting them proven by science?

860
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 6>Do you want to have more experiences? What's driving you

861
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.440
<v Speaker 6>now personally to keep getting up every day going into

862
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.800
<v Speaker 6>the bigfoot rabbit hole looking for these things and doing

863
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:29.920
<v Speaker 6>the research that you're doing.

864
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.239
<v Speaker 12>I think for me personally, it's just my own curiosity,

865
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:34.079
<v Speaker 12>my wanting to know.

866
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 8>I want to know more.

867
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.159
<v Speaker 12>I want to know what these things are doing when

868
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.400
<v Speaker 12>they're not around us. I want to know what they are.

869
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:41.360
<v Speaker 12>Is it private, is it across?

870
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:42.199
<v Speaker 2>What is it?

871
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:44.960
<v Speaker 12>For me? That's what keeps me going. I really haven't

872
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:46.079
<v Speaker 12>really shared a lot of my.

873
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:48.960
<v Speaker 11>Stuff over the past couple of years until recently when

874
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 11>started getting a lot of stuff, and then I had

875
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:52.840
<v Speaker 11>a lot of support people linking, Oh, you need to

876
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:55.199
<v Speaker 11>get this out there, you need to share this with folks.

877
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.360
<v Speaker 11>So now that I'm sharing it with people, it's just

878
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.880
<v Speaker 11>blowed up on me even more so. I'm hearing other

879
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.480
<v Speaker 11>people's stories. I'm getting a lot more eyewitnesses coming forward

880
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.639
<v Speaker 11>and talking to me about it. So it's really helping

881
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 11>me to build a pattern or establish a pattern of

882
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 11>behaviors with this thing, with this phenomenon. So I think

883
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:17.480
<v Speaker 11>for me, it's just personal curiosity. Like if we're able

884
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 11>to prove it, that's great. If not, it's just something

885
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:20.760
<v Speaker 11>I'm enjually doing.

886
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:22.960
<v Speaker 6>Let's talk a little bit about some of the things

887
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.199
<v Speaker 6>that people have told you. Are there any stories that

888
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 6>people have shared, maybe one that has stuck out to you,

889
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 6>maybe it's just because it's closer to home, or just

890
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.159
<v Speaker 6>in general that you found very interesting that people have

891
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:36.960
<v Speaker 6>shared with you over the last couple of years.

892
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.800
<v Speaker 12>Oh man, there's so many that come to mind.

893
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.599
<v Speaker 11>There is one really interesting one, and it just happened

894
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 11>not too long ago that I interviewed the eyewitness and

895
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 11>we're actually going to go up to the site here soon.

896
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.239
<v Speaker 12>Him and his buddies had went up to a lake

897
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:55.840
<v Speaker 12>not far from here. This was in the middle of winter.

898
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:57.840
<v Speaker 11>He said when they were going up there, he said,

899
00:42:57.880 --> 00:42:59.840
<v Speaker 11>they've seen elk and stuff like that before up there.

900
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:03.119
<v Speaker 11>They didn't see nothing this time. They didn't see any

901
00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:04.000
<v Speaker 11>signs of anything.

902
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:06.480
<v Speaker 12>So they thought that was a little odd. But they

903
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:08.159
<v Speaker 12>still going up to just the party and have a

904
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:08.559
<v Speaker 12>good time.

905
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:11.199
<v Speaker 11>Right, They get up there and they set out some

906
00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:14.440
<v Speaker 11>crawfish traps in the middle of the lake, and around

907
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 11>midnight they get this bright idea.

908
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 12>They've been drinking a little bit and they get this

909
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:18.840
<v Speaker 12>bright idea.

910
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:20.360
<v Speaker 11>They're going to get into the boat and go out

911
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 11>there and get these traps and bring them in and

912
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:23.599
<v Speaker 11>cook them.

913
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:25.880
<v Speaker 12>So they get in the canoe and they get in

914
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:27.079
<v Speaker 12>the middle of this lake and.

915
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.800
<v Speaker 11>They said, that's when all hill broke. They said, they

916
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.559
<v Speaker 11>were feeling good, but they weren't drunk. He said, that's

917
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:34.599
<v Speaker 11>when all hill broke was he said, and this thing

918
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.639
<v Speaker 11>just came and he was just crashing through the trees.

919
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:38.519
<v Speaker 12>They said.

920
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:40.639
<v Speaker 11>It took a small tree and chrunked it into the

921
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:43.639
<v Speaker 11>lake towards our canoe through a couple of boulders, and

922
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:48.199
<v Speaker 11>was screaming and just stomping, just carrying on. So they

923
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:50.599
<v Speaker 11>got their traps and he said, our traps were just

924
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 11>loaded down. He said, we turn around, we hide tiled

925
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:55.719
<v Speaker 11>it back. But where they were at, the lake that

926
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:59.320
<v Speaker 11>they were at is extremely difficult to get to, and

927
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:03.199
<v Speaker 11>in the daylight you got to go over some pretty

928
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:05.760
<v Speaker 11>sketchy switchbacks mountain ridges.

929
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<v Speaker 12>So they were more scared to try to get out

930
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<v Speaker 12>of there at nighttime.

931
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<v Speaker 11>So they decided they would just stay there, and all

932
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:14.679
<v Speaker 11>night long they could hear this thing going around their tent,

933
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.519
<v Speaker 11>just tearing up stuff. They come out the next morning.

934
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:21.719
<v Speaker 11>Of course, everything looked like a hurricane outside. Tree lying snapped,

935
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:23.800
<v Speaker 11>the big old footprints and they've never been back since

936
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:25.320
<v Speaker 11>he was too scared to go back.

937
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.119
<v Speaker 12>So that was pretty cool, I thought, And that was

938
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<v Speaker 12>just not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 6>I knowed you and I are going to be together

940
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<v Speaker 6>over in the United Kingdom next year at the Cryptid

941
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:38.079
<v Speaker 6>Conference UK. I think it's at the end of May.

942
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<v Speaker 6>Do you have anything coming up between now and then

943
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:42.719
<v Speaker 6>that you want to tell the folks about? Are you

944
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:44.559
<v Speaker 6>going to be on anymore podcasts? Are you got to

945
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:45.639
<v Speaker 6>speaking gigs coming up?

946
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:48.119
<v Speaker 11>I got some more speaking gigs coming up at libraries

947
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 11>around the state here, So you can go to a

948
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.880
<v Speaker 11>Paranormal Wilderness our Facebook page and you can catch them

949
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:57.360
<v Speaker 11>as they come up if you're interested. If you live

950
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.280
<v Speaker 11>in Washington, you live on the Olympic Peninsula, you'll able

951
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:01.960
<v Speaker 11>to see some of that. I'm gonna be doing some

952
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:07.639
<v Speaker 11>stuff with some different people, some indigenous tribal stuff going

953
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.960
<v Speaker 11>around the mensula here. And then I got a couple

954
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.599
<v Speaker 11>of podcasts coming up. I got a Cryptic Quest podcast

955
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.519
<v Speaker 11>that's coming up. There's two other ones I gotta go

956
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.559
<v Speaker 11>in and look at. But other than that, no, not

957
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:20.239
<v Speaker 11>really a whole lot. I got a book coming out

958
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.519
<v Speaker 11>hopefully in January. We're hoping to get it released in January.

959
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:26.360
<v Speaker 11>It's going to be the Sasquatches of Grace Harbor County.

960
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:28.360
<v Speaker 11>It's going to be basically what I've done is I've

961
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:32.960
<v Speaker 11>taken all my eyewitness accounts and reports from all the

962
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.679
<v Speaker 11>eyewitnesses and I've turned them into like campfire stories.

963
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.119
<v Speaker 12>So instead of just reading your basic standard because I.

964
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:41.920
<v Speaker 11>Know, like you are familiar with government reports and like

965
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.599
<v Speaker 11>the BFI reports and stuff. Nothing wrong with those, but

966
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.159
<v Speaker 11>after you read a couple of them, you start to

967
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 11>not off because they're all in the same format day time,

968
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.320
<v Speaker 11>and I've just taken those and I turned them into

969
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 11>campfire stories. And in the back of the book you'll

970
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:58.559
<v Speaker 11>actually be able to see the actual report that goes

971
00:45:58.599 --> 00:45:59.639
<v Speaker 11>to the campfire story.

972
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 12>You'll be able to see see the actual witnesses testimony.

973
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 7>Very cool stuff.

974
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:04.880
<v Speaker 15>Man.

975
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:06.480
<v Speaker 7>We'll have to have you back on and promote the

976
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:07.519
<v Speaker 7>book once it comes out.

977
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.280
<v Speaker 6>You guys, go over and check out the Facebook and

978
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:12.559
<v Speaker 6>keep up with what Matt's got going on there in

979
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.079
<v Speaker 6>the Pacific Northwest out in Washington State.

980
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:16.559
<v Speaker 7>Man, thanks so much for coming on the show.

981
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 6>I'm looking forward to hanging out with you over in

982
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:21.159
<v Speaker 6>the UK and may I am stoked about that trip

983
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<v Speaker 6>and I can't wait to hear some more stories.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm looking forward to hanging out with you.

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