Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, February seventeenth, twenty twenty six. Welcome
to the Giant BombCast, Episode nine hundred and twenty eight.
I am your host Jan Shoa. Happy Lunar New Year
to those that celebrate speak about Lunar New Year. We
got the Big Stallion himself, the co captain of the
ship Jeff grub.
Speaker 2: Why I won't intend to let me download the Virtual
Boy appen ruin.
Speaker 1: My eyes speaking about ruining his eyes, he's already tapped
into the virtual boy reality.
Speaker 2: He's coated in red Dan Reikert.
Speaker 3: And also, you know, ruined my eyes as a child intentionally,
So you know that story the other day.
Speaker 2: I think that was cool.
Speaker 4: I to get like, it's like a warning. It's like,
don't lie to me or else you'll end up like
Dan record.
Speaker 3: A warning for their children's.
Speaker 2: Speaking about cudminary tale and be like, uh huh.
Speaker 1: Speaking about cautionary tales and warnings. He is right there
at the gates of the three D printers, warning you
to keep it.
Speaker 2: All on the d L Jeff Becklah, Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 5: I'm a three D printer cop I printed out my
three D by my my cop badge and I'm a cop.
Speaker 1: Now, we haven't asked you to turn in your three
D printed badge and gun.
Speaker 2: Uh, you could probably make one of those. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't want to think about that future. I want
to think about the future with.
Speaker 2: The bird boy of games media. Ma wow, Happy Lunar,
New Year, Happy Marty Grod Do those often fall on
the same day? Is this? Is this the strike? The
same thing? Right? Yeah, exact same thing. Yeah?
Speaker 1: You fish on Fridays, you give something up for forty
days and then you hand red envelopes to little children
and family members.
Speaker 2: That sounds familiar, and then that's when you have to
take the top off, right, Yeah I get it?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Boys, how he'll do.
And we just came off of a three day weekend
here in the States. It was also Valentine's Day weekend
as well. Yes, okay, sure.
Speaker 2: You're Valentine's Happy listen.
Speaker 5: I I pulled a fast one this year. I planned
a ski trip on Valentine's Day and one of my
what am I supposed to do? I can't do anything romantic.
I'm keeper skiing.
Speaker 2: It's not like anything there, yeah, like like a little
smooch a little smooching.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we do that anyway, We do that anyway. Okay,
all right, yeah, every day is Valentine's Day on the slopes.
I mean, come on, but I it wasn't expected to
do anything like over the top. I mean, come on,
is a big deal. You got a lot of playing,
a lot of equipment to haul.
Speaker 1: For the daddy's in the group here, which is just
two of them are all found. Thank you, thank you.
I needed that to for my fragile ego. Have you
found Valentine's Day with the little Gimmicks has changed because
now you just foist all the stuff onto the little
gimmick instead?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I understand for three people now instead of
just one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I was gonna say that's not what you
meant jan right.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I was thinking like, oh, Dylan, now it's your responsibility
to make the Valentine's Day for your mom.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I'm going to rely on that for anything.
What are you talking about? What are you I spent
some of my Valentine's Day inside of an igloo and
it was awesome, and I was like, you know what,
they should offer this as a place to live all
year round, because I don't want to go anywhere.
Speaker 2: It's awesome any summer.
Speaker 5: Igloos are the best. I've decided the best way to live, the.
Speaker 2: Best Number one. How's the internet in a nickel? Fine?
Speaker 5: Fine, Fine, And it's fine here too. I'm on my
third modem in six months, Mike, So everything's peachy.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: I think I still put houseboat above igloo back on
my ranking of houses and domiciles, us not beating houseboat.
Speaker 2: Houseboat can move.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's part of the problem I think is that
it can move and get me nauseous.
Speaker 1: Are you thinking grub a houseboat on like a river
or like just out in the open? I mean a
lake or a river, probably at lake like the New
Roadhouse like that. Yeah, Like I want to be of
exactly like Jake Jonenhall in the New Roadhouse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Roadhouse. He's always walking around like that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's me. I got crazy eyes. I'm
gonna hurt you.
Speaker 5: So I spend I spend some time. While I was skiing,
there was an igloo. I got to the like like
ten thirty. People are like drinking like heavy cocktails at
ten thirty during their ski.
Speaker 2: Day in the morning, they're trying to kill themselves. Like right,
that's what they're trying to do.
Speaker 5: Pretty dangerous. But yeah, it's like I just I was
surprised at how many people were inside the igloo, like
many drinks deep at ten thirty in the morning.
Speaker 3: The exactly maybe like two adults and a child could
sit cross leg it in right, Yes, it wasn't a
fucking cartoon folk.
Speaker 1: You need to specify all right, by one point of reference.
Speaker 5: I mean this I substantial I'd say on the inside,
like two thousand, three thousand square feet, like very large.
Speaker 2: That's more like a big glue.
Speaker 5: And everybody I'm posting in our chat, but like it
was substantial, like it was a very large igloo that
could probably hold I would say seventy five people comfortably.
Speaker 2: Christ make that. I don't know how they do it.
They do it's like together this was lot so yeah,
snow and then they pad it down with water.
Speaker 5: It's got to be some sort of like core foundation, right,
like they have to. I'm sure, Like the way you
build like a tent, like an outdoor tent, I would
imagine it has like a steel sort of frame and
then they somehow like it's.
Speaker 2: A large igloos but not like that real shit.
Speaker 5: I mean it's it was enormous and like, oh my god.
The pretzels there was like great pretzels there.
Speaker 2: After.
Speaker 5: Dude, like I said, geese, that's all I need in
like cheese. I'm not moving. Uh there might have been cheese.
Speaker 3: You got a pretzel and no cheese.
Speaker 2: Mustard.
Speaker 5: I think it was like a garlic. It was like
a garlic sauce with a case.
Speaker 3: That sounds pretty good too.
Speaker 2: That's delightful.
Speaker 5: That's had some champagne.
Speaker 2: It's worth okay in champagne. That's good. I uh yeah.
I went down to Florida. It was my girlfriend and
it was also her birthday weekend. Happy birthday, Yes, happy birthday, Payton,
Happy birthday, babe. So that was a good time.
Speaker 5: Down there.
Speaker 2: Not very few, very few it gos in Florida. It's
funny because like it was in the seventies or maybe sixty,
so a lot of them were freezing, and I felt
so happy to be there. It's such a cold winter.
It's warmed up a bits as I got home, but
I remember just walking from my car to the airport
was was miserable, but it was fun. She took me
to it tiki bar in Orlando called and Vacation, Permanent vacation.
That's it. Thank you. How do you remember better than I.
Speaker 3: Do who I've known for my memory?
Speaker 2: Mike, Yeah, yeah, that's fantastic. One of my uh when
my drinks came in a glass that looked like a
pig and they put like what looked like a cigar
but now it's just kind of a scented rolled up
paper thing and it was on fire, and you know,
they they they play a song and they do a
whole thing. And I got to drink out of my
pig and I was very very happy. Uh Oh. I
finally went to the Cirk Desillay show in Disney Springs.
I didn't go to a theme park, but we went
to Disney Springs like all the restaurants are for for
Valentine's Day, and I was like, oh, there's a Cirk
Desolay show here all the time, like a permanent building, yo.
Speaker 1: Mikey is Disney Springs similar to like a downtown Disney.
Speaker 2: And it used to be called Downtown Disney here. Also
they expanded it some years back. It is like a
city walk. It's like a city walk. It's much bigger.
Than City Walk. Yeah, very similar. Yeah, Clay is like
a permanent show there. So we saw that and it
was awesome and one of the like funny people in
the show, I saw my boat head and like jumped
out the stage and kissed that at one point and
that was fun. And then some cast member came running
at me to give me my badge. Afterwards it says,
I'm celebrating best audience performer at certain delayed Drawn to life,
So now I have this forever. So that felt, Dude,
I love the best audience member. Yeah. Have a bit
of trouble getting home though, Like it was supposed to
be Sunday night. I'm like, okay, maybe Monday. I'll check
out that Diabo two stuff which I'm going to add
to the rundown Jeff by the way, and then uh
what else? And then we get there like, oh, it's
delayed a little bit because of the storm here. That's okay,
get on the plane we're taxing for now. And then
they're like, oh, it's delayed real bad now because there's
fog over there. So we get off the plane and
they're like, oh, so how delayed are we And then
they're like, would you believe that. You know, it's already
midnight there, ten forty pm tomorrow. Oh boy, right.
Speaker 3: I feel like I used to never have flight delays
and crazy flight bullshit, and I feel like in the
last oh, let's say year or so, like eighty percent
of my travel has gotten fucked up in someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, weird. I've never had to get on a plane
and be told to get off thing before, and happened
twice in the last few months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that happened like four times in a day to me.
Not that was it the bomaiton or Game of the
Year or something like, yeah.
Speaker 2: Game of the year. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and you know,
it's like, I get it. There's fog over there. I
don't want to land over there and then have to
drive through fog for an hour anyways, and then once
like you know, no planes are landing there, then of
course it's going to take a while to get all
the planes there. So so I did get it. My
problem is I was real angry for a bit because
all the all the restaurants were closed and there weren't
vending machines even or even like the Hudson News thing
was closed. There's just no way to get food, so
you got it.
Speaker 3: That's why your carry on bag you always got to
have like two or three protein bars in there, just
in case the bullet.
Speaker 2: But luckily, once they got I like the terminal, like
the main hub area, there was a single mc donald's opened.
Oh I've never been happier to see McDonald's in my life,
and I went, I went. I went embarrassingly hard at
that McDonald's. No. No, I got a double double quarter
pounder combo large for a large drink and ten nuggets.
That seemed like that. Okay, that's that seems and you
were angry. Yeah, it's just angry. Yeah, yeah, it was
good then, like you know, I do it could go
back to my girlfriend's house, but she was asleep and
I didn't know she had to work the next days.
I'm like, I don't want a car, like I come
drive another thirty minutes and come get me. Uh yeah.
Luckily E actually kind of like woke up on her
own and saw and said I could come over. So
I was. I was saved. That was fine, and I
just got to hang out a bit more and it
was all right. I got bumped got bumped up to
the big uh big f C the first class come
for free. Yeah, living it up on there. Man. It
was free. It's great and somehow now an incredible coincidence.
The the flight attendant was just on the cheek. No,
it's a patient my girlfriend or not like that is
a patient of my father's. What what what? How did
this getting me up? Uh? I don't know. Somehow my
dad texted me like, oh hey, uh I know that
with the flights in your flight. I don't know how
I came. I think when I told my dad, well.
Speaker 6: Well, they're texting during their affair. I'm sorry. We have
to eliminate that as a possibility. Now explain yourself. These
circumstances are almost unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I think. I think so when I told my dad
my dad's always very concerned about my safety when I'm traveling, like, oh,
the flight's been canceled. I think the next day he
just texted a flight attendant patient of his that he
knew worked for Breeze and was like, I don't just
like ask about it and she's probably yeah, that's flight
Oh so and then you know they figured it out from there, right,
I think she I think she the f C. Did
she give you the f C I think has thoughts here.
Speaker 5: It's just a level of access here. It's just on professional.
I can't get on with this, Like what are we
doing here?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 5: I chext it in a fucking flight attendant favor to
see if little Mikey's okay.
Speaker 2: It sounds pretty on brand for him, to be honest. Actually,
just like we're working weird connections to try to affect
things he can't affect for my safety, like when blades
take off in land.
Speaker 5: And I'm sorry, what is this fictional airline you're flying?
Speaker 2: The airlines it's it's a smaller airline, but they have
direct flights out of a smaller airport and Akron it's
really nice because the Aquin because you know, it's it's
it's cheaper. But it's not like a Frontier or a
Spirit where it's you know, like the like the get Yeah,
it's like you have no space between seats and like
they still have a first class section things like that.
Speaker 5: Right, second question follow up, describe first class on Breeze Air.
Speaker 2: It's just like all the other ones. You get only
two seats per little section, nice and tons of laker
and stuff for he drinks, including it's nice and even
though I didn't ask for it. She slipped me a
bag of peanut m and ms. I was like, that's all,
you know, if I asked for them.
Speaker 1: Are you sure you want to be talking about this
on the podcast, Mike. We know your girlfriend listens to this.
Speaker 2: This is not egregious, just as a favorite of my dad,
and it's got some free peanut m and ms. I. Look,
I say, I'll give him to her next time. What
she wants. I don't even really actually, but I just
I like the gesture, right. It is not a suggest all.
Speaker 4: Right, all right, this is the kind of thing that
happens like, uh, like, what's the Jim Carrey movie where
he is.
Speaker 2: Yes, the Truman Show show. Yeah, but Mike's not like
a Truman Show situation.
Speaker 4: Had dad is like producing a show about his life in.
Speaker 2: The class problem, the problem. It's working out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We we're just the aggressive side characters in your life.
Speaker 2: Ye, Dad, it's working on great. I want to. I
gotta talk to your dad, man, Yeah, I get these
cats together. I want to.
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to him on content as well,
and Mike always tells me it would be very disappointing.
Speaker 5: I don't need it for content. I don't want to
like explore you want to do that, man.
Speaker 2: I just want to I just want to podcasts.
Speaker 1: We should do in that brain we should all do
a dad swap and do a podcast with each other's dads.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, back, that's going to be that duo.
Speaker 2: I know. I can't imagine my dad. I think would
have a brainanderism of worry if Dan Record was his son,
very much, it was very like worrying far like oh
you know, he still me to text him my like flight,
like oh yeah, I'm at the airport. Now, I'm in
the plane. Now I'm home. It's you can sleep now, father.
Does doctor Minotti do the same with your brothers? Oh yeah,
yeah yeah, oh for sure, for sure.
Speaker 5: And you're the oldest right No, I'm I'm in the middle.
Speaker 2: Shocking. I know it's not shocking. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I just like I have a similar thing with my
dad and I'm just like Dad, I'm forty three, Like
what are we?
Speaker 2: What are we doing here? Bud?
Speaker 5: What's happening?
Speaker 2: I always hate to say it, but I'll be like, look,
if something happens to the plan, I bet you'll find out.
You don't need you don't need to hear about it
from me.
Speaker 5: So look, I'm not saying it's not cool that dads
still care, but I think like the way they present
their care is UH is.
Speaker 2: A lot well you know, I mean there's a way
to do.
Speaker 4: I experienced it. It's like I care, but only because
it's really causing me a ton of stress. Like I like, like,
if you get hurt, that's gonna be a lot of
problem for me.
Speaker 2: So that's like happening up front.
Speaker 5: Sadly. I think you're correct. I think it is more
of like, look, would be great for you to survive
this trip.
Speaker 2: Emotionally damaged. I'll be if you die, Like it doesn't
happen to you.
Speaker 5: All the supernatural ship I can.
Speaker 2: I've loaded up all the crystals.
Speaker 5: Yeah, rubbing in the closet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, folks.
Speaker 1: We we've been in an egg glue. We've been on
the FC of a plane. Any anything else significant happen
over the three day weekend I had UH.
Speaker 3: I had Valentine's Day dinner at white Castle Lovely. Yeah,
it was fantastic. It was really really fa reservations. They
have candlelight. They were like, you know, roses on the table,
and stuff like that, and it's just so fun to
seeing all the people that work there that like just
one day a year, they're like waiting tables and it's like,
I wonder if that's like fun for them where it's like, oh,
this is like a unique day of work, or if
it's like, oh, we gotta do the fucking Valentine and
ship but they get tips and stuff, which they didn't
really I asked about that. It's like, how do we
do we tip here? And they're like, well, you got
to do like if it's not cash, it's like Zelle
or Venmo and it's like I play some cash on
the table here. But yeah, I wonder if they like it.
It's a I thought it was a fun thing. It
was like a mix of like younger couples and then
extremely old couples.
Speaker 2: That's what you want. That's how you know you're to
find establishment.
Speaker 1: Did the menu change it all dan or was it
just the same?
Speaker 3: It was the exactly. I mean, they have like a
fold out menu.
Speaker 2: I've got to hear.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it is Valentine's Day themed and everything,
and it's like but it's just like sliders and they
had limited time, Triple Cheese tots.
Speaker 2: I got those.
Speaker 3: Those were great. Yeah, I had a really good time
with that. And then we went to Applebee's and got cocktails,
and then we saw Nirvana, the band of the movie The.
Speaker 2: Show which where was that? Go see? I need to
go so bad. I've been watching I've been watching it
like clips NonStop. So this is unfortunately, I think this
very stupid question. I know the answer now, but this
is not actually about Nirvana.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: It is the movie of a show that's been It
was a web series, then it was the show.
Speaker 2: Today we shop Wednesday. I looked recently that it's those
people and now.
Speaker 3: And they are they heard geniuses. The show has always
been genius. This movie is right in line with the show.
It is absolutely fantastic. I talked to Mary Cash who
went in knowing nothing, and she thought it was a documentary.
And that's hilarious. If you've seen the movie, that's so funny. Okay,
that's great, that's incredible stuff. And so also Matt Johnson then,
one of the guys who did that BlackBerry movie. He's
they're they're awesome. I love those guys.
Speaker 2: He's extremely talented. Yeah, boy, when I was at that
tiki bar and they were They're One of the cocktails
was called face Off, and I start I texted Dan
immediately very excited, but then I just kept getting more
drunk at the tiki bar and like capt texting and
then made us order one so we can get it
to and be like, look, Dan, it's a face Off
like that movie. You're like. He's like, He's like, yeah,
that's great, Mike. Remember the name of the boy everything. Yeah,
you were very, very better than I did. I had,
I had a lot. They had another trick there that
came in like a diver helmet and it was like
a mule that was called the Bends. That's right, not
that guy, not the not the face spaghetti game, the
internal you know your Intrail spaghetti game. Yes, where your
body gets all smitched together. Yeah, I want to go
see that movie. Though, I want to. I want to
know not much more about it than the fact it's
not a documentary about Nirvana, and then I want to go.
Speaker 3: See it has nothing to do with the band Nirvana.
I think you should just go see that have.
Speaker 2: Anything to do with Nirvana the band though.
Speaker 3: Yes, two Ends, Yeah, incredible, incredible, show. Seriously, people haven't
seen it. It's one of the best I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: It's like I'm getting more excited about it, like I'm
hearing great things, but then just going back and watching
all those clips, it's like, oh, yeah, some people actually
are funny because I'm so used to to that, like
YouTube clips or shorts on on like Instagram, where it's like, oh,
this is comedic, I'm sensible chuckling. Maybe I'm usually not
cracking up, And I'll watch two things from Navranda the
band of the show, and it's the funniest shit I've
ever seen. They are little genius.
Speaker 3: I put it up there with like Arrested Development or
Nathan Fielders stuff. You know, it is like that level
of great which Backlar, Are you.
Speaker 2: Familiar with the movie at all?
Speaker 5: I know about this movie.
Speaker 3: Yes, Do you know, like, what is a major crux
of the plot of the movie. No, Okay, I'll just
say this. Back to the Future is a massive part
of this movie.
Speaker 2: It is the future.
Speaker 3: Back to the Future. It was the core of this movie.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very very very good. That's a good movie. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was honestly, like the perfect weekend because it was
just like I beat a game, I wrote a review
of a game that'll be going up in the near future.
So I basically just played a game the whole weekend
and then saw movie a Why Castle had some drinks.
It was just like, that's that's an ideal three day weekend.
Speaker 2: It's amazing Prime four again. He gave it two stars
this time. I just can't stop playing it.
Speaker 3: It's crazy now that I think about it, Like.
Speaker 1: I know it's still early access, but Dan reviewed Lord
insisted we did.
Speaker 4: It's very funny now, dang he because you do know
every time you review a game it's gonna be Oh
so this is.
Speaker 2: Worse than that.
Speaker 3: For I messaged you and I said, like, I'm I
just have to retire. To retire, yeah, that question forever
anything I don't get five stars like, oh so okay,
so Metroy Prime is better than this.
Speaker 2: That's your life ready for it? Bring it on? All right? Uh?
Grab any anything? Any fun festivities.
Speaker 4: We got a heart shaped pizza from jets Nice.
Speaker 2: I also I also.
Speaker 4: Beat a video game, and then we made some chocolate
covered strawberries, like you could buy those and super expensive
make them at home. That ship's awesome. Hell hell, and
I just ate that all week and it was good.
Speaker 1: I say this not to be sad or a Debbie downer,
but this is my first Valentine's uh being single in
quite a while. And let me tell you.
Speaker 2: It's okay. Let me tell y'all.
Speaker 1: Wow, you just fucking do whatever you want when you're single.
Speaker 2: Huh. Yeah. I drill fish, didn't you?
Speaker 1: I grilled the fish, wore.
Speaker 2: Exactly. I couldn't do it before.
Speaker 1: I had this small yachatry grill that I bought years ago,
and like the special charcoal, I lit that bitch up
and then I grilled the fucking fish.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: I had the best advancement in pizza technology, Dan, you
know what I'm talking about. That's right, Little Caesar's crazy puffs?
Speaker 3: Oh the puff? Are those the one we talked to
Jared Cargill about. Yes, and yeah, you're good.
Speaker 2: I can't get them out of my fucking head. They're
good anyway. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jeff Grubb, how could folks support all of these shenanigans
and us over here at Giant Bomb.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, if if you're seeing somebody new, if you're
starting dating somebody and you want to introduce your interest
to them, show us, show them us first, and that'll
be a good barometer, you know.
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, right now, yeah, this this scene right here.
Speaker 1: This, Yeah, the person that had you listen to the podcast,
they paid off all of my student loan debt.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, folks, let's talk about games.
Speaker 2: That's a great interest segment. Everybody, good jobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm really we're changing the review skill to.
Speaker 2: Starbursts too, by the way, especially, it.
Speaker 3: Would be very funny if we started doing mal stuff
where we just start adding stars.
Speaker 2: It turns out to go up to eight stars all along.
Of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking about the numbers and all that jazz Dan record,
You've been playing a game that I think we played
on a upf It feels like years ago cin Across.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did it on the Team Next Fest thing,
and I think I knew immediately I was going to
like it because I like rogue lights and I love
any form of pacrosse, and in terms of just like
standard pacrosse just lousy with them. You know, it's all
over the switch with all the Pacross S series and
all that stuff, and then you know, I still go
back and play three D the three D Pacross from
time to time. This is a rogue Light take on it.
It's like if you haven't kind of blatrode up pacrosse,
although it's maybe more like it's like Slay the Spire
with like it's got the map with the branching paths
and you can choose like, Okay, here's a more difficult puzzle.
Here's a campfire where you can resource some HP, so
like you do have HP and things like that, and
you have a timer. So that's the big thing that changes.
Like across, here's pacrosse. I think a lot of people
would see it as like a sudoku or a crossword
or something like that. You take your time with it.
This has a timer, so you have an overall like lifetimer,
and once it runs down, you start taking HP hits.
So it's very interesting to like, it's a cool challenge
for me because I consider myself like very good at pacrosse,
and so it is really fun to like, oh, okay, I've
only got a minute forty left on my timer, and
here's a level five difficulty thing that's gonna be like
a twenty five by twenty five puzzle. I wonder if
I can beat it that fast. And like you are
getting like consumables and things like that. There are shops,
it's all the traditional roguelid elements and things like that.
So I can pop this thing and get an extra minute,
or I can press this thing and it'll like fill
in twenty random squares, or this will uncover all the
cells and an X pattern or something like that. So
and you are getting artifacts, you know, kind of like
the joker type stuff. They are not I feel like
there's less you can do with pacrosse than you can
with poker because like the artifacts, I'll say aren't quite
as exciting as like the Balatro Jokers. It is stuff
where it's like, Okay, every every puzzle is going to
have a certain amount of gold cells and you can fill.
If you fill these in in time, you're gonna get
extra gold for the shop, and you'll get artifacts to
make them last longer or give you more gold and
things like that. It's it's not as exciting as far
as the artifact stuff, but even just the timing element
of it, I think adds a ton. And then you
do have your boss fights that that's a lot more
like Bilatro, where it's like there are gimmicks to each
boss fight so it's like, cool, okay, this one. Every
once in a while, the screen's going to turn red
and if you fill in a cell during that, you're
going to take an HP hit. There's ones where like, okay,
on this boss fight, the the numbers for the clues
spin around, so like they're just constantly spinning as you're
trying to get out how many like nine ers out
of six?
Speaker 2: Is that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So certain things like that, but yeah, I will take
any twist on Picross, and I feel like there just
haven't been many, so I very much have enjoyed playing this.
Speaker 2: Is there like a narrative Nope?
Speaker 3: I mean I mean there's like some flavor texts and
stuff like you die and it's like oh the light
flickered out, and it's like, you know, there are like
allusions to a campfire and shops and stuff like that,
but there aren't like characters or there's no like.
Speaker 2: Yeats selling or anything.
Speaker 4: But it's not even like inscription right where it's like, oh,
you're gonna break away from Okay.
Speaker 3: I'd say it's like as much as like a blattro,
which means pretty much anything. Maybe it's got more personality
than it has like any kind of narrative you know,
got it?
Speaker 2: Uh? This is this is the one point oh release
right Okay, it's out out so.
Speaker 4: Like the idea, like it's not as exciting as some
of these other ones, but it doesn't feel like that's
going to change.
Speaker 2: This game is just what it is, right it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And again I was trying to think, like, you know,
what could you do, Like like with Blatro, there's just
so many different hands and cards and things like that.
I feel like there's just more you can do there,
and Pacross is just filling in squares based on what
numbers tell you. So, you know, I don't think this
it's not because this game didn't have good ideas. I
just don't think there's a lot you can do with
that format as far as mixing it up with the
artifacts and all that stuff. So well, it does well
with what it can do, you know.
Speaker 4: And then last thing, like it does the Pit Cross
style stuff feel integral or like could they just like
swap this out for like.
Speaker 2: Sidoku and this game wouldn't change all that much?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Like do you feel like they're doing something very specific
with the fundamental gameplay of a Pit Cross? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean there, yeah, because it is stuff about like
you know, your your abilities and your consumer boles and
stuff are like you can choose like a dot on
the grid and it'll fill in a five by five
around it, or you know the X pattern stuff like
that was like Sidoku is always just that kind of
like you know, three x three nine by nine thing
you know across it can be all sorts of different
configurations and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Dan, I've seen you absolutely murder at a game of Pitcross,
and Sodoku has a Rubik's Cube. Ever, culture interest at all.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, list okay. I love logic puzzles. And as
a child when they would send me off to the
Gifted schol every Monday, they just surround you with logic puzzle.
So it's a bunch of like, oh, this person can't
sit next to this person, this person has to have
a red shirt, this person whatever, and then you got
your tangrams or let the tangrams. I was great at
logic puzzles, great at the tangrams. If a cross had
been around back then, holy shit, that would have been
all for me. But then they also had rubikscubes lay
laying around everywhere, and try as I might, I would
sit there for so long and try to figure that
thing out and something about just the spatial element of.
Speaker 2: The Rubik's cube.
Speaker 3: I could never quite like that. And the sliding puzzles
like a windwaker, you know the ones where it's like,
you know, you slide the squares around and you try
to make a picture something about that like I can
get like one or two squares where I need it
to be, and then I just I it all gets
sucked up when I try to change something like I
cannot wrap my head around that. So I think logic
and numbers and things like that I'm very good at.
I think the spatial type stuff like that, like rubikscubes
and tile puzzles.
Speaker 2: I just cannot do.
Speaker 1: Speaking about spatial awareness. I think this may kill your
spatial awareness if you wear it too long.
Speaker 2: Gang.
Speaker 1: Not only is it Lunar New Year, it's also Virtual
Boys Day.
Speaker 3: I drank my virtual boy mug this morning that I
got from the museum of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, my brother had one those, but it
chipped already because mug suck. Oh wow.
Speaker 1: Except our mugs that you can get at store dot
giant bomb dot com.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I'll probably just break. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I feel like if I went to your kitchen, Mike,
I'm gonna find some mugs, you.
Speaker 2: Will keep gifting them to me. I'm not gonna like
throw them on the ground in front of them right
when I get Hey.
Speaker 1: Hey, Mike, take your headphones off real quick. Okay, let's
all get him a mug.
Speaker 3: I was just thinking, that's it, Like you shouldn't because
I think it's just funny if you just keep getting
a mugs forever.
Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, like every in person event we go to
from here on, out.
Speaker 2: Let's get him.
Speaker 3: Does he have a po box? Can we tell everyone
to send a mugs?
Speaker 2: I have, Yes, we have a shared one.
Speaker 3: The front door.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, absolutely what he wants you're playing in.
Speaker 3: I don't think you honestly don't think you really don't think.
Speaker 2: He wants more than two mugs there having a lot. Yeah,
but like Mike, Mike lives by by himself. He's he
doesn't need that many mugs.
Speaker 3: No, that's why it's funny if he has like exactly
exactly yeah, and like okay, okay, cool, okayeh, headphones, I'm back.
Speaker 2: I got I bet nothing was discussed about me personally. Nothing.
Speaker 1: So the virtual boy Gang this is where you take
your switch to and throw it into like a visor thing.
Speaker 2: Right, it's it's over there. It's okay. I did get
mine in. I put it together, so I'm ready to go. Oh,
look at it's it is. Come on, it's beautiful. I
know it's such a good looking for you so hard.
I know it became a joke and it's a failure,
but look at this thing. It's yeah, it's got viper red.
Speaker 3: It just looks like it is so stupid, and I
love it. So much, even like this morning, I sit
down on the coffee table and I'm like, here we go.
And like, I never really spent much time playing the
Virtual Way. Maybe five minutes at a uncle Land in
nineteen ninety five and I started playing and I was like, oh,
these games suck. It's like, but I'm still so happy.
I was like, this is such a ridiculous thing, and
this thing actually works very well at like doing the
three D effect. It works way better than I expected. Like,
like we joke about it. It's a one hundred dollars
piece of plastic, which it is, but it does do
what the Virtual Boy was supposed to do.
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. Yeah, I'm kind of excited because I
never had the lab of v R thing and this
will work for like like Smash Brothers on Switch has
a kind of VR mode just you know, it makes
some really three e I don want to try to Yeah,
and we're it works in this Virtual Boy thing, and
I'm like, okay, I'll do that. Sure.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think it's just like Mario runs around the beach.
I guess I didn't explore it too much, but I
think it's just like, isn't this fucking crazy, and I'm like, oh, okay,
that's it so kind of.
Speaker 3: You see Mario's nipples and three D Virtual.
Speaker 2: Boy have to download. I'm going insane. It's just.
Speaker 3: People are like a clock the pipe.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't. I have no idea.
Probably not when I shut down, because a virtual point,
that's that'd be crazy.
Speaker 4: But no, I get through the shop and then it's
like all right, click the button, free download, and then it's.
Speaker 2: All right, hair every time it's it's frustrating. Is this true?
Speaker 3: Chap says that you can play all of Breath of
the Wild, and VR.
Speaker 2: Believe that's true. I believe that's.
Speaker 3: In this Virtual Boy because that sounds like an unbelievably
fun and stupid thing to do.
Speaker 4: Take Have you taken the red filter off yet to
see like just the raw pixels?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I have not it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because they're gonna sell different filters, I think,
or give you the where you have.
Speaker 2: Filters, they're gone. They're gonna have different filters. So like
when you play it, remind me, can you play these
games on the app without like any of this stuff?
Speaker 3: Was just like, don't be ridiculous. How is that supposed
to work.
Speaker 2: So you can't play it docked, which was one of
the stories weren talk about news. Let's just talk about
it now. You can't play it doc but when you
take it out of that, out of the dock, you
can boot it up.
Speaker 4: But it's going to be the two eyes as soon
little screens side by side, and there's a thing you
can do to make them a little bit bigger, but
they still look pretty.
Speaker 3: I am going to load up Breath of the Wild
and switch to and try and be a live on
the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please, wonderful? Yeah. Perfect. We got to figure out
if we can somehow output this thing to a capture
cartoon while we're looking at it.
Speaker 4: I mean, we can't because you can't play it well doned.
So we'll just have to come up with a way.
Let's just play some Virtual Boy games.
Speaker 2: It'll be fine.
Speaker 3: Okay, sure, Sure, you can't use the home button while
it's in the Virtual Boy.
Speaker 2: How do you get back.
Speaker 3: And just saying like you can't do this?
Speaker 2: Wait second, don't you have you know, isn't their home
button on your joy cons?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm hitting it on the controller and it's saying
you can't go to the home screen because it's in
virtual mode. Is this only a virtual Boy?
Speaker 2: Now? Yeah, it's virtual boy. Now you have to tap
the clothes. People are saying, tap, it's a tap close.
Speaker 3: That's insane. Okay, there, it is all right, We're all right.
I'm loading up at the while.
Speaker 1: Yes, So have y'all gone the chance to play any
of the Virtual Boy games?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: The first one I loaded up was three D Tetris.
Speaker 2: Which, uh, yeah, that's not good.
Speaker 3: It's not good at all, and that the frame rate's
real bad. Then I played Telarro Boxer, which I was like, ooh,
punch out stock and it was also not very good.
I tried all of them and they were all not
very good, except for Warrio Land seemed like there might
be something there.
Speaker 2: Waryland's great. That's just that's the one that's the most
like the original Warland and gay Boy because after that one,
which is mostly an action platform, after that the series
became kind of, you know, very puzzle exploration base, which
is great. But this one's fun because it's more like
that original. It's Mario clash on there. I know some
people don't like Mario.
Speaker 3: Class It's it's only like seven or eight maybe right now,
because that was the first one I wanted to load
up and I did not see it there.
Speaker 2: And do we not have Jack Bros? Yet? No? Not yet?
Speaker 3: Okay, excuse me, you heard me? How did you toy
con VR goggles on? Oh my god? This is insane? Okay, yep,
there you go. It splits Breath of the Wild into
virtual mode.
Speaker 2: That's weird. But are each of those images of smaller
resolution now like it has to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got the red filter. I'm gonna play. It's working,
but it's all right filter you have to virtual boy,
Breath of the Wild is insane.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, man, Okay, that's incredible. This this looks
so happy?
Speaker 4: Is this headset sold out on the site for me?
It says I've reached my limits?
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. They had a second wave
come out that was her stale for a bit, So
I'm not sure if you can so easily procure one
of these things.
Speaker 1: Normally I get a little bit of fomo when you
hooligans go rush out by and any other thing.
Speaker 2: Don't fear miss Absolutely this is not one of those
things though. So yeah, this is one of those five
year age gap things where it's like, oh, uh, all right,
I had one of those with my girlfriend because she's
like five years younger than me, and it has not
ever felt even remotely like, oh, there's some kind of
difference between us until episode one came up during this weekend.
She's like, I like that. I'm like, oh no, I
love episode Yeah, exactly, same demo.
Speaker 3: There we go explain how the red filter? Is this
a physical thing that's in here?
Speaker 2: Yes, like a little doubt what I'm saying. Okay, I'm
gonna try. I don't know what. I haven't taken that
out of mine yet, but uh, I.
Speaker 3: Am confirming the wild completely works in VR.
Speaker 2: This thing incredible.
Speaker 4: All Right, They're gonna they're gonna have other colored filters.
Speaker 5: Physical filters.
Speaker 2: Okay, what am I even in this thing? I don't
know where this thing is.
Speaker 4: So I would take it out, but I know it's
a physical filter you can take out.
Speaker 2: I know, Like that doesn't really make any sense, but
it'd be so funny if Half Life Alex comes to
the Virtual Boy before it all out in PlayStation Yard two.
There's a there's a world where it could happen. Is
not a world where that could happen? I don't know, grub,
I don't know. Uh, just absolutely not.
Speaker 1: As Dan continues to futs around with virtual reality. Uh,
speaking about other horrors inflicted onto your eyes, Jeff, Backlar,
you did a quick look last week of Realitible. I did,
and that game is all right, all.
Speaker 5: Right, moving on. No, I I'm really digging it. I
hit I've hit a couple of points where you know,
I was trying to play it while I was away
on my on my rock thing, and I don't think
this is this is actually a game where I'm like, no,
I'm not gonna play this on my my handheld. It's
I don't know what it is. Maybe there's I think
things may might just be like a little too small,
and I'm kind of just like squint into having a
like notice like little areas that are that are you're
meant to explore and sort of trigger and activate. So
the first time I played a game where I'm like,
I'm really in love with it on a big screen
and then when I bring it to the portable, I'm
just like, oh, this is like kind of almost unplayable
for me, which, uh, which is a new experience for me.
And yeah, so that was pretty wild, but no re
animal is made by the team. The pedigree behind uh,
Little Monsters one and two. It is a short I'm sorry,
what did I say Little Monsters? I mean Little Nightmares.
Little Monsters is the Howie Mandel Monsters under the Bed
just a case where where we wanna get us trade here. Yes,
Little Nightmares one and two. So yeah, the they have
really brought that same kind of energy to this game.
You play as is sort of like a brother and
sister pair looking for your friends in this sort of
like hellscape.
Speaker 2: The Blue Guy. I'm sorry, yeah, okay, I'm sorry. Continue.
Speaker 5: You know, it's just so funny. I think about that
movie and it's like, man, it didn't really impact me
because it was just so like cartoon, not cartoony, but
just like very obviously like puppets and all this other crap,
and I just feel like modern sensibilities would reject that
in such an awful way. Whatever. You go watch that
for film and forties.
Speaker 2: Actually that's not a.
Speaker 5: Bad Okay, So Little Nightmares one and two this is
really it is again. It is the same kind of
style where you are kind of exploring, like I said,
the deepest, darkest sort of nightmare locales and whatnot. The
people in this world are like, you know, you're you're
sort of meant to felt like a child, similar to
little nightmares, but the people in this world are just
like these sort of like exaggerated and like overly tall,
sort of deformed, freaky, you know things. It's just the
right energy that I want, and it's a lot of
the gameplays fun. There's there's an interesting amount of fun
kind of platforming, a little bit of trial and error
where you're kind of trying to make your way through
a certain spot, not unlike what your time is, sort
of like in Limbo and Inside. But yeah, I think
this is a really nice surprise. I kind of went
into this a little bit of trepidation, not really knowing
if they're going to stick the landing, but you know,
almost probably halfway through this thing now and really really
digging it. If you are like me and you want
to be in a world like this outside of Halloween time,
this should be right up your ally.
Speaker 1: When I was watching, I was like scrubbing through the
quick look back a lot. There's like, are there is
this like a co op game or you just have
like a person following you so you can.
Speaker 5: Play a signal player a game like this, I want.
I've not done the co op. I feel like maybe
one day, I don't know, but you can do co
op where one of you, know, you each sort of
control one of the brother or the sister. If you
play it single player, you have that kind of like
ico relationship where you know, you you tell your partner
to stay here or flip a switch, call them to you,
that kind of thing. I have not experimented with that,
so I can't really speak to what that sort of
plays like for me. It's like these games, I just
want to be with myself, be by myself, right. I
guess that kind of makes sense with the kind of
atmosphere and whatnot. But yeah, they do offer that, which
I thought was a cool little feature. Yeah, it's it's dope.
I think it's a bit of a surprise. Is actually
reviewing a little better than I thought it would, which
I think is interesting and yeah, I am into it.
I a full recommendation from me. Go check out Reanimal.
Speaker 4: So you said, I think you kind of like talked
about this a little bit that it's not just like
walking through cinematic spaces. It's also like, oh no, it's
still a refined platforming game as well. We try to
walk in both spaces.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there is there, you know, there is that there's
a light puzzle solving. You are meant to kind of
like figure out, you know, how to progress if it
is a diorama in the way that you're sort of
like you make it to a room and then you
kind of have to act quick or a section act
quick and kind of figure it out. I think for
people who want to be able to like breeze through it,
there might be some frustration because you you are meant
like you are meant to like die, like you're meant
to just not make it through because sometimes you have
to think about, okay, well, you know there's there's I'm
supposed to like stealth hide behind this dumpster, but and
then let the the big ugly guy pass, but then
he has to open up this gate for me. So
there is a bit of like trial and error that
you know, your your sort of task with with with
sort of performing. But yeah, it's a mix of like
three or four different kind of things, which I think
is like a nice kind of balance.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: The stealth stuff is not so overwhelming where you're just
like I'm just sitting here waiting all day. There is
a good amount of puzzle stuff. There is a good
amount of platforming, and it's fucking weird. It's fucking weird.
There's there's goofy, drippy boys, there's moist, slippery fellas like
it's uh. Some visuals are striking. I think, yeah, I
think it's uh. I think if you were like me,
you're gonna be well served for sure.
Speaker 2: Wow, it sounds like a great spooky game, just like
Silent Hill Townfall would be a great spooky game that
I was able to pick up on Fantasy Critic. Even
though I wasn't here to watch that Taco r. I
still got that game, hooray. I didn't get cosavena tho
chucked in Oh damn.
Speaker 3: It must to deal with that because I tried to
get it and it said like, oh, it has to
be in a public bidding window or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so someone already bid on it, and so after
Thursday it shifts from your you could bet on any
game to anyone who's made a bid before Thursday. It's
now public and you can go look see what everyone's
bid on, and now you could try to outbid them,
which so yeah, I definitely been on both those games,
and sounds of good.
Speaker 2: People paid a lot of money for him. All right, yeah,
I put Yeah, I feel like I did a lot
on Castlevania or I did pay a good How do
what I do for Castle Island Hill? It was probably
twenty something.
Speaker 3: Well, I tried to do three for Castlevania, hoping that
no one else tried.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it definitely went for like I did. Like it.
I did like fifteen or sixteen. I think I did
seventeen for Castlevania, so that one went for a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've I've been able to squeak away with a
couple couple of games I'm pleased about. All right, Well,
speaking about a game, we're uh an eco like game
where you have someone following you. Jeff grabbed Mike Manatti.
You checked out the demo on the switch to for Pragmata.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is actually something I did in the
airport yesterday, partly because like I thought yesterday I was
gonna have some time I got to play some games
to talk about, and then I was just kind of
straining the airport again, like okay, well I can always
play this Pragmata demo. I've been meaning to do that.
I haven't played a lick of this game. I know
you guys have talked about it before. Uh you know,
I very much like Tom a lot of the time.
But like the idea here of a kind of sci
fi shooter from them it this demo was really fun.
So also like a well put together demo, Like there
is a demo craft right, and you're like, yes, this
is gonna be pretty snappy. There's gonna be a little
bit of like it gets right in you know, cut
scene of like setting things up, but you're mostly just
playing the game. We picked a very good part of
the game to put you into where you were going
to get a bit of everything. You're gonna get the combat,
you're gonna get the hacking, you're gonna get out smidge
of the lore, you're gonna get out boss By at
the end, and it's all over in like thirty minutes
or something. Very good demo. Yeah, just like this core
idea of you're doing this kind of tile based hacking,
like a hacking mini game and like some immersive RPG
or something, but syndicate Yeah, yeah, but at the same
time you are actually shooting an enemy and you have
to dodge his attacks and things like that. Yeah, that
base mechanic feels fantastic, and if they can kind of
explore that mechanic, it maybe interesting across like an eight
hour ten hour adventure. I think I think this game
is gonna hit pretty good.
Speaker 4: I I also checked it out just to see how
it was running on the switch and an Ari Engine
great on switch to this game runs really well.
Speaker 2: It looks surprisingly, it looks good. Yeah, it's like a
little bit like, oh, I bet this little girl's hair
looks better on a PlayStation five Pro. But also whatever,
I'll get over it. Yep.
Speaker 4: Like you you know the weak points and that's that's it.
That's the main one that you'll you're gonna see often.
Speaker 2: And you know, I bet it has some like slow
down and very specific spots.
Speaker 4: That's just how these things go. But it's like, man,
this I you could totally play this game. Want to
switch to you no problem.
Speaker 2: What is Pragmata coming out? It has to be April
something something. So it's always been weird to me that
game is coming out after Resident Evil nine for some reason,
because there's just announce so much earlier than it but yeah,
I'm like very excited for that for release. Now I
could play it on switch sho I bet I still
want to play it on on PC, but absolutely runs
well enough on there it comes out I think twenty fourth.
Speaker 4: I think that's what I was just trying to get
is like, if someone plays this game, are they really
getting a lesser version or they're getting the same game
but a little less Like there's a distinction. Yeah, And
it's definitely the latter. It's definitely like, oh, this you are.
Speaker 2: You will have played the same game as anyone playing
on a super powerful PC or whatever. There's also like
you when you hack a lot, you feel up you're
a super hack meter and then like does like the
camera zoom in on the little girl hacking. It just
reminds me a lot of the Team Up Move and
Kingdom Hearts two with trone hacks, and I was very
much like that. Hell yeah, first it's a Mega Man game.
Now it's a Tron game Kingdom Hearts game, that's right. Yeah,
It's like I thin when they first show this game,
was like, oh, that's interesting, We'll see I don't you know,
this might be like another you know, a Path of
the Goddess, a cute little experiment and probably pretty good
game People of the Path of Costs. But yeah, like,
we don't like that. But I'm like this, who knows
there might be something here, Like I am already in
the mindset of I bet we see a Pragmatic to someday.
I think it's something.
Speaker 1: I like the look of the Pragmata little exo skeleton
mech suit you jump into. Yeah, it's got a nice
hef to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like I like it, you know, it
has that kind of clean but sort of realistic sci
fi look that I enjoy and I love. I love
little booster boots, right, I love a little hovering and
the slow Yeah, I like the boots so good. Stuff
to the ground. That's right, Boots to the ground. Mikey.
Speaker 1: You've also spent a lot of time, uh, and I
have spent some time playing the new old Overwatch.
Speaker 2: I am having so I'm having more fun with Overwatch
again than I have had in a long time since
good to hear. Yeah, you know, definitely since before it
became Overwatch too, and now it's just Overwatch again. That's fine,
But you know, they added five new characters at once,
and I think all of them are good, which is
shocking to me that they are all fun in different ways.
The Cat Man, the cat is jet pack Cat could
just fly as much as it wants. There's no quote
down on that. It has like a booster thing that
can recharges, but it the cat can fly anywhere, can
shoot at people, and it heals friends, hurts enemies, and
you know people you could you could tell their friends
with it, and that's fun when you do your ultimate
it's kind of just like dive bomb in the closest enemy.
You hit the dive bomb, they they're tethered to you
for a bit against their will. And there was like
one map where you know, there's like just a cliff
and I was just dive bombing onto the tank and
just flying over the cliff. And then after a bit
was a little a little bit like that Jeff Shark
and Marvel Rivals. It was a little bit right, Okay, Yes,
I'm gonna kill the tank here every time with this one,
that's the one who's being called for nurse the most,
is the jet pack Cat. After the moment, people seem
to hate jet Packcat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll see in my h the couple matches
that I I've been able to play that Jetpack cat
is always just zipping around just because it can, and
that in the Hamster.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean the counter for jet Pact would
be a good hit scan DPS. I can just shoot it,
but you know, it's a small target moves pretty fast,
so it's difficult. But boy, it's fun. Even the the
other heeler as well. It's like this dude with a
kind of you know, excuse.
Speaker 1: Me by lack of let me say it, let me say,
let me say it raided hat.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Well, it's raiding hat but has lou k
kunglau properties because it bounces between your friends when you
throw it, and that's how you heal people. Yeah, that's fun, right,
And he also has this like chain ability that just
slows down enemy, so it's great for enemies who are
kind of diving into the team. You just hit them
with his chain and they're slow and you headshot them
and they'll die. So that's really nice too. New DPS.
The one guy is like basically a like Master Chief
as a character with the mooseet. So the first gir
just have the frag grenade, right, somehow we don't nobody
who just pushed a button to throw a normal grenade.
So he's got that. He's got this burst rifle, but
he also pushes shift and he brings out like a pistol.
It you could shoot as fast as you can hit
the button basically, and you're also faster while you have that.
And then his alt is super strong where he becomes
possessed by a demon, goes up in the air. It
could just like rain down destruction for for a little bit.
The other damn show where is like Firebase, and she's
fun because she is sort of a dive character where
she kind of has you know, one move that gets
in there, just like a dash that you can put
just eat, but where you're in vulnerable, you're just shooting
fire over the place. You can dash back out and
if enemies are on fire then to kind of take
ticking damage for a while. So she's like, there's a
simplicity to it. I really like, but it is super fun.
Then the tank Domina is one of the best tasks game,
just super super fun, also pretty powerful right now, who
knows that she's getting nerves, but she has this like
beam that like shoots like you know it's just like
a beam, but it has this burst at the end.
So it's like, so you want to track enemies, but
you want to really make sure you're on them or
even on their head for the headshot when it happens
feels so that's fine. This little like kind of like
crystal laser that is like a Grenadan old blow up.
But she could push who gets the wall if they
had a wall, there's stuns to go. She's hot as well,
but they're all hot now, they're all hot. She's pretty hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, I it's I think the last time I
had seriously played a little bit of Overwatch was when
Wrecking Ball the Hamster got added. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so
there there was a huge gap of there are so
many rows of characters now when I redownloaded Overwatch, and
I just decided to jump in who I with who
I thought was the hottest, and of course it was
a big sword lady.
Speaker 2: Uh then dad?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I've been playing a lot of
Marvel Rivals. Magic is another character I play a lot
of just because I think it's interesting to have a
melee character in a character shooter game. And there's parts
of Marvel where I feel like you were definitely at
a disadvantage playing a heavy melee character, but the kid
on Vendetta specifically, I feel like it's so well done
that I never felt like I was at a disadvantage
because she's primarily a melee focus character, but there are
ways to kind of skirt around that to get her
to just like dive in and be useful in the game,
or at least to finish people off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a pretty well designed game, it turns out.
And I've been hearing kind of rumblings for a bit
that people have been happy with the state of Overwatch
right for like a year. And it's fun going back
because there are a lot of characters I just had
not really played that much of. Like there's Juno, who's
a healer and she kind of looks like an eighties
anime space girl, and she kind of has hover boots
again and like hover boots, right, it's a good's good thing,
and she, you know, she's just a ton of fun. Like,
they don't have very many bad characters, even though there's
so many of them. Now in my mind, I'm like,
how are you, you know, handling all these characters? Not
an unbounced messense. It was pretty good. But if you
play on comp there is a band system now, so
characters do become a problem. There was just gonna ban them.
So the Dead actually is pretty strong sometimes because of
her dive things, so she just gets banned a lot,
which sucks if you want to play vendett I suppose.
I think Domina is getting band alot. Same with jet
Pack yet at the moment and then you have quick
play if you just really want to play as people.
Speaker 1: Mike, when do they add the kind of like perks system.
I forget what it's specifically.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because like when I jump back into
I was like, what is this And at first I
was like, oh, I don't know if I like And
it's actually pretty fun. So and it's just basically when
a match happens at two different points, you get to
pick one of two perks. Yeah, and they're kind of
minorish things, but they could be a bigger deal like
that you know character I was talking about. She has
this kind of blaster that again it's like spurts and
one of the perks is as long as I'm hovering,
it's just a constant stream. Not so much three load,
but all of a sudden I can and like really
do either burst damage or first healing, depending on you know.
And sometimes it's like, hey, this dash ability has you know,
extra uh, you know, an extra to it. Yeah. Yeah,
So it's just things like that, and you don't have
to think, you know, it's not like a fool on Doda.
Now it's like there's fifteen choices and I have to
look up a guy to see what I need to do. It's,
you know, one of two choices. You really you just
hold down alt and right click or left click on
mouse and keyboard and you pick the thing and it's
just a nice kind of little bonus as the match
gets deeper into it.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. We should play some Overwatch on the website.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tons of characters that just shoot guns as well
if you don't want to focus on any of the abilities.
Speaker 2: I think there was a bit there where every new
character came out and they would like have like ten
abilities and five passes, and they're kind of super complicated,
maybe over designed to me, and a lot of these
new characters. Jet Pack Cat's pretty complicated, you know. Again,
the guy who's basically just you know Halo man, I'm like, yeah,
I like, you know, because I like Soldier seventy six
a lot of character with a gun basically that's night Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
that was the that was Bester Call of Duty. Now
I have mister Halo, I'm like, yeah, the game's still
needs characters that mostly just kind of shoot things. It
feels good. Sough. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I forget the character's name, Mike, but she is pretty
much just pulled straight from Vanquish, where you one of
your abilities is like a power slide and then you
jump out of it and you get like a boost
in the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so sojourn I think she was at
Oh she was the one that was like there when
they did the Overwatch to Switch right exactly, and it
was like, yeah, I'm like, it's certainly a fine character.
Mom was like, I'll just play Soldier and just kind
of shoot people a bit more straightforward like and that'd
be fine.
Speaker 1: Lots and lots of fun, uh, just like based off
of the title of this game, Jeff Grubb, I don't
know if you've been having a lot of fun because
you put on here listen up. We tried to make
those games even more extreme. Some things have to be
learned the hard way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a this is a like a sea
to like, Hey, listen up, you wanted those games, so
we made them. Now let's see you.
Speaker 4: Clear them, of course, which is Thick the Classic, which
is a collection of real versions of those fake mobile
game ads. Oh right, So like when you like a
meta for mobile game advertising right now, which is all
about user acquisition, is you show an ad with gameplay
that someone's well, you show now with gameplay, and you
make sure it's bad gameplay, someone messing up in the game,
like the pin pulling one, which we don't see much
of anymore. But there used to be ads like a minute,
lava sitting over there, and there's gold here, and there's
lava there. If you just pull the one that has gold,
you'll get gold. So why the fuck is this guy
in this ad pulling the lava and killing the menotaur.
Speaker 2: It's stupid. I need to go play this game to
show them how dumb they are.
Speaker 4: Well, when you go to play those games, turns out,
in most cases they have almost nothing to do with
the ad you saw, and they're much more like you
have a village you're trying to upgrade over time, and
then maybe there's a bonus game seven hour that's like
that thing you saw in the ad.
Speaker 2: Mate, Oh my god. So this collection, I know, right exhausting.
That's the way we live.
Speaker 5: I don't want to be around anymore.
Speaker 2: It sucks. And so this collection is a paid game
where they're like, no, we just actually made all those
games from the ads, including the one I got this
one for, which is the little soldiers moving left and
right shooting the enemies yea, and then like going through
like the math gates, like the math Gates get that
all the time. And I'm like, I kind of want
to play this, but I know, I know if I
pushed the button that should let me play this, I
won't get to play it exactly like I've I like
put it off for so long and then I eventually
did fall for it, and I was so disappointed.
Speaker 4: And so I saw this, Mike, I need to like
make amends and go like pay someone who actually did
work here. And it's it's great, like and like it's
a little bit more challenging because they're not just trying
to keep you on the treadmill of playing the game
for forever. So you'll get kind of complicated math gates
where it's like divide by five or subtract by like fifty,
and you have to like real quick through the math,
like how many characters do I mean people do I have?
What would be worse? And that's kind of it's a
fun little problem to solve, So it's it's great on
steam Deck. This is not some high art, but it
is a fun example of like cool, can you take
these things that are very simple, very basic and kind
of meant to be slopped to like capture people in
a trap online and make a good game? Can you
like find the good game design? And usually yes, like that.
That's what this collection has proven. I haven't tried a
lot of the other games that are in there. They
have some other ones, but this is definitely the mode
I wanted to play, and it works well.
Speaker 1: It's well done, lovely, lovely, fantastic. Speaking about games that
are simple and fun, Dan Riker, you've been playing the
opposite of that, a game that is very complicated. It
is fun but very very long. You checked out, and
I've been checking out mu Jenna.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a longer. We did a quick look
ex with the creators and so check that out if
you want to see kind of me and Mike go
more in depth with how these runs go and everything.
But I want to bring up two specific things that
like point to like why I love this game because
you can break it in ways that if it broke
all the time, I think it would be too much.
But like I'm over fifty hours in, Bonk is over
fifty hours in, and we both have gotten like one
run that broke the game in a super fun way,
So like mine was. I had an active ability for
my cleric that throws a blessing which is like a
cruise fix thing, and it gives you like one shield
of damage no matter how much the damage is. And
then I had a passive that shared any pickups that
I got with my entire team, so every start to
the round, I could throw the damage, you know, the
cruise fixed thing, pick it up, and then all of
my team would have it, so all my team is
invincible for one hit at least, and I can stack
on top of that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I also had a ranger that had a passive that
had double trap effects and everything, and I had a
bunch of stuff that like create spider traps, so anytime
I killed an enemy, like eight spiders would come out
normally would be four, but all of those barriers, the
crucifixes also gave all of those spiders one thing damage.
So like every single first round I had in that
game was me making all of my characters and vulnerable,
spawning a million spiders and making all the spiders and vulnerable,
and then it's a matter of watching it play out
with all these spiders going to all the enemies and
killing them all, and like, I didn't get touched that
entire run. I just destroyed everything and it felt incredible. Again,
if that was every run, or even every like twentieth run,
I think that would suck, but it was incredible. Bonk
had a one that was really cool. She had one
cat that basically became a mortal because she had a
passive called Singularity that made everything one. So she had
one HP one mana would take one damage all the time.
But she also had an item that made it so
anything that did one damage to her would make it
zero damage, so the cat could only take one damage.
But also an item that made one damage equals zero damage,
so you literally could not hurt this cat. So yeah,
it's just so awesome. And the way the game works
out too, where it's like later on in the game,
like dozens of hours in it introduces this thing where
it's like your retired cats can fight, and so it's
like then you can like kind of build this dream
team of just like Okay, well that cat's basically I mortal.
This one works really well with that one's abilities, So
I know next time I have to fight this you
know boss character that comes around every once in a while,
I've got the team put together for it and cool.
It's just tremendous. It's just every run it's a perfect
playing game. I've been flying a decent aunt lately and
like just flights fly by with it. How how many
hours would you say you've put into it now? Dan,
who it's over fifty. I haven't checked since my flights
and stuff. I bet I'm over like seventy or something now.
And I still feel like I have so so much
more to go.
Speaker 4: I mean, and that's not just a feeling, like that's real, right,
Like the understanding here is there is hundreds of hours
of gameplay.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I could absolutely see that, and I'm not
slowing down remotely on it.
Speaker 1: Well, going from talking about mutating small creatures to other
small creatures, perhaps pocket monsters, we've decided to stuff them
into a pinball machine because Jeff Bakolar Pokemon Pinball.
Speaker 5: I want to thank everyone on the Internet sending me
news and information.
Speaker 4: Nothing happens without you finding out fifty times right away exactly.
Speaker 5: And it's the combined effort of all these random strangers
that made me fully aware that there's a pinball machine
coming out called Pokemon Pinball. That's right, folks, it's here.
Got to catch them all, and by them, I mean pinballs.
Catch all the pinballs inside the pinball machine. It's here.
I think I think we talked about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I want to see like five or six months ago
where you know, I knew it was coming out, but
there was there was rumors, and I felt like, oh,
we could talk about the rumors.
Speaker 2: It's all good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this thing's out. I've talked to people who've played it.
They are impressed. Uh, it's the newest game from Stern.
I believe it starts shipping next month, and you know,
it's like it's kind of crazy, right. I guess my
thing is like I've not seen a reaction to a
pinball announcement like this in a very long time. It
makes a lot of sense, right, it's like obviously the
most popular ip like ever, right, I mean, I won
I can't even imagine what a license like this cost,
Like that's kind of where my mind goes from, Like
what do you think it costs?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, A lot, a lot? Right. Uh.
Speaker 5: There's a collector a limited edition that they are numbering,
and I think people are like going.
Speaker 2: Fifty seven fifty for thirteen thousand dollars yep.
Speaker 5: And it's crazy that I think certain people like want
certain numbers because that equates the Pokemon number I got nerds, right, yeah, yeah, exactly,
fucking nerds, These fucking nerds many tables.
Speaker 2: That's ten million dollars in revenue.
Speaker 5: Like that's yeah, So like you gotta imagine, like maybe
it's two million dollars to license Pokemon.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I gotta imagine maybe it's more. Yeah, so you know,
I don't know. I don't I don't claim to know
the answer to that question. That's none of my uh,
it's out of my uh purview. But yeah, the you
know that, have you guys seen the design of the playfield.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also I've been watching stro I love that. It's
because I'm old. I like that it's very original. One
undred and fifty one seemed it's kind of kind of
it's taking off from the anime specifically, like kind of
one of the big centerpiece things is the meuth On
air balloon kind of drops down you can get it,
and I love that. That's fantastic. I love the little
masterball is what you grab onto for the kind of
you know, the launcher plungers, Yeah, the plunger is that
what it's called the plunch area.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's in all of the versions.
That might so. So like all payball games, there's a
small medium in large, right, there's a pro, a premium,
and a collector's at least how Stern sort of categorizes it.
I it might be in all of them. I don't know.
Usually that's the thing that they reserve for, like the
premium or above. But yeah, I think it's like a
you know, the hardest thing with all this is like, yeah,
the theme inclusion is a is a tough sort of
thread to needle, and then it's like is the game
fun and by all accounts. It looks really fun. Obviously
the objective is to battle and capture Pokemon. Sure, from
what I understand, like they will be adding more like
it's gonna be update, just like they update games. Now
that each one of these games is connected to the Internet,
they can change the rules set and they can change
around the you know, the video screen and the graphics
and the music and stuff like that. This thing is
it's gonna it's yeah, it's gonna be great. I've I've
been in touch with my buddies at turn. I think
I'll get my hands on one maybe this summer. Yeah,
and I'll be able to coming over and you guys
are more than welcome to fly out and stay in
my murder basement while we play.
Speaker 2: Pokemon Sean and I will out. That's finsition.
Speaker 5: That's fine. Yeah, it's very exciting. Uh, I'm I'm super
jazz about it because you know, all these things really
do just kind of like add to the generalized interest
in the game. And I think, you know, this one,
I'm curious to see them in the wild and see
like what the attention is, right, because this is a
game where you're where like this is the first this
is going to be the first pimball machine for a
lot of places, like you know, like this is an
easy cell where it's like, oh, we've never had an arcade,
but let's get Pokemon pimball.
Speaker 2: Oh that's like such an easy cell.
Speaker 1: I could see so many card stores opening up, Jeff
that like will buy this because I'm saying, hey, you
want to come in for Pokemon cards. While you're waiting
in line, hopefully no one gets stabbed, go play the
Pokemon pinball game exactly.
Speaker 5: I you know, for people who are trying to get
that collectors a dish. I I just there were the limited.
I forget how they categorize. It's just you're just not
gonna the limited. You're I just don't think you're getting it.
Like sorry to deflate.
Speaker 2: Your your ear balloon there.
Speaker 5: But these things are going to be a really hot commodity.
But uh, it's nice to the limited edition. They like
it's painted purple, all the legs and everything has got
led lights and like the sides and stuff like that.
They really go all out for those limited But yeah,
there it is. It's happening. It starts at Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh I was going to say, uh, I had a
pinball story to share with you that I was waiting
for the pods because.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Jan your first pinball story.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: I've played pinball try house, but not a story. Sure, sure, sure.
I was celebrating a friends birthday over the weekend at
one of these barcades we have here in San Francisco. Yea,
and let me tell you, Jeff, this is one of
those where it's like, Okay, there's a DDR machine, there's
time crisis, all your classic ones. But at the pinball
corner it was absolutely packed with sickos because people were
like actually putting a token on the machine, saying like, no,
I got next after you. And then my friend disappeared
for a while. She's not super into games, but you know,
a barcade's a fun place to have a birthday. I'm
looking around before I'm dipping out in homegirl is like eyes,
dead set focused. She is in the zone playing the
Foo Fighters pinball machine. Damn, and I didn't realize she
had quickly become a pinball sicco and had come to
this barcade every other week to play this specific Foo
Fighters pinball machine.
Speaker 5: I believe it that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know why I have this sickness.
Speaker 2: I just I was born with it. It's good.
Speaker 5: It's good. I like, yeah, no, that's a great game. Yeah,
I think uh oh, and Mike. I looked at the site.
Apparently the limited is the only one that comes with
the poke ball.
Speaker 2: They get. They know, we want that master ball. We
got to pull on a master ball.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but uh check it out.
The playfield is gorgeous.
Speaker 2: It really didn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, unbelievable job designing this thing.
Speaker 2: I was searching real quick to see you like to
see more about it.
Speaker 4: And it's very funny, like you're right, Like the Pokemon
fans are coming here and they're like, well, let's see
how much this thing costs, and they're really shocked at
the cost of pinball tables. It's like, oh, honey, this
it's not for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah okay, oh yeah, Like as if any Pokemon freak
would be surprised by the cost of anything.
Speaker 2: That's what That's what I thought.
Speaker 4: But it's like they're like, even compared to the cards,
this is expensive, Like, yeah, it's a pinball machine.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to be making revenue off of it for
the next like five years. Yes, it's owner operators. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think you are going to see obviously, just like
with everything Pokemon, you are going to see resilers, you know,
like I stalking a buddy mine.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: Anthony, friend of the front of the site, was saying that,
you know, people are already relisting their numbered ones on
you know, the biggest pinball market places. It's called pin Side,
and it's just you know, these things are going to
start fetching insane amounts of after market pricing, and it's
just like, yeah, you know, it's.
Speaker 4: Going to get one or whichever one likes Pokemon Logan Paul,
Maybe it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: They're barely human, jaw is broken.
Speaker 5: Yeah, who Daisy, Yeah, I don't know. It's it's it's wild,
also wild. Did you guys see grow Up? You probably
were the only one watching USA Hockey over the weekend.
Speaker 2: You see that.
Speaker 5: Pokemon sponsored the the intermission.
Speaker 4: To sponsoring almost the entire Olympics, the segments for a
bunch of different sports. Yes, it's kind of yeah, it's
kind of what I mean, it's thirtieth anniversary stuff.
Speaker 2: A're gonna Pokemon Day later this month. Uh but yeah,
and they're just doing the commercial from the Super Bowl
over and over like that's the ad campaign. It was.
It was. I was just so wild.
Speaker 5: I was like watching the the US FIRSUT Germany and
they're like, we'll be right back after the university report,
brought to you by Pokemon. I'm just like, huh, that's
kind of cool.
Speaker 2: It's better than like when it's.
Speaker 4: Like like a prescription company where it's Eli Lilly or
whatever the fuck the company.
Speaker 5: I'll take it all day. So that was a fun
little thing to see happened. But yes, I don't think
we are prepared for just how much twenty twenty six
is possible Pokemon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: I think Pokemon Day is really going to illuminate just
how much Post second ten days.
Speaker 2: Right ye? Yes?
Speaker 1: Or Pokemon Worlds this year is going to be here
in San Francisco. Oh wow, right, God, I have to
weasel my way in. And I wonder if they're actually
going to have any of those machines uh playing good.
Speaker 5: I almost guarantee it. Like these things find their way,
you know, they always build like ten prototypes that are
just meant to be shipped everywhere and on display everywhere,
and I'm sure that'll be like part of the thing,
you know, I was I had, you know, I only
saw the reveal of the playfield like last week, and
you know, everyone's it's always like, like I said in
the beginning, it's like, is this gonna play well?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Like, because a lot of things get designed and you
see that and you're like, oh, this is gonna shoot
well or these shots gonna be like reliably accurate, like
can I do this thing? And you know, sometimes I
believe it's a two flipper design where there's only the
two at the bottom of the playfield just looks good,
just looks like it's gonna really be an overall kind
of like smooth kind of gameplay loop. And I'm really
excited to see how it plays. And the best part
obviously is like also you know, the video integration and
what they all did with the toys on the playfield.
Like I'm pumped. I can't wait to see. I'll probably
see you probably start seeing it in the wild in
the next month or so.
Speaker 1: Lovely exciting, very exciting. Uh, Jeff Greb last game here
on the docket. I need to ask you if it
has gone exciting. We checked this out last week on
UPF God of War Sons of Sparta.
Speaker 2: Yes, this this is a pickle this game, what is
its ai?
Speaker 4: It's pickle Crados, right, he's so wacky he wants to
get that McDonald's. That's right, and playing this thing and
it's a metro venue and I like Metroid Venas and
everything else about it is kind of like low key repulsive.
Speaker 3: There's something gross about just looking at it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's it's a So it is like
two point five D, even though it doesn't look like it,
because the characters are clearly three D models that have
had a filter placed on top of them to make
them look more pixelated, and it and it doesn't like
it's trying to be like, hey, we are both a
modern game and a retro game.
Speaker 2: And it's like what fucking retro game you talk about?
Like Jaguar Like like it's like, is it like the
worst possible retro thing you could be pulling from? H
Gerson was.
Speaker 4: Saying, it kind of reminds me of like the Zelda
CDI games and like it some of that energy to
its visuals where it's just so off and weird, but
as a metro Evania, it's getting solid, it's getting better.
It's it's not great, Like it's so far away from
like Metroid dread Like compare this to Prince of Persia
The Lost Crown, and it's like, that's how you be
Soft was treating. It's like long running franchise that it
wanted to make a Metroid venue for and it made
a Game of the Year worthy game versus Sony doing
this with God of War And I'm just like, how
did do this.
Speaker 2: Like to be more like Ubisoft? Wow? Yeah, Like that's
a bad look, Like why would you do it this way?
I'm confused.
Speaker 3: It is insane and I said it on the on
your PF. But like if you look at the list
of games on Mega Cat's websites that they've worked on,
and there's just a bunch of very like AI look
in Mobile looking just honestly, they just don't they look
like a certain type of game, and then all of
a sudden they get a God of War game and
it's like, how.
Speaker 2: The fuck did that happen? That's insane to.
Speaker 1: Me, And as far as I've been able to like
just look on the internet, there's not a lot of
crossover specifically with Sony and Mega Cat.
Speaker 3: Right, like like that rest Quest game that was bad
and that was multi Yeah. Yeah, it's baffling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know how it happened. I uh.
Speaker 4: And as I'm playing, it's just like how do these
decisions get made? Like even the decision to play as young.
Speaker 2: Pre Credos Credos where doesn't look or behave like Crados
yet other than he's kind of stern with his younger brother.
Speaker 1: The other aspect is like when I think of God
of War, I think of Krados using the Blades of Chaos,
and here you're grubbed. Does the weapon change or are
you only ever using a spear?
Speaker 2: You're upgrading the sphere so far.
Speaker 4: There might be other weapons, but so far, I just
have a spear and you know that it's fun. But
you're right, I'm not like doing the stuff that's incredible.
And like that first God of War where like that
combo system with the blades of the Blades of cast
We was so satisfying.
Speaker 2: It's none of that is here.
Speaker 5: This is just not a God of War game and
they just made it a guy.
Speaker 3: I think it is so weird that the way they like,
I think it's on the store page. It was like
God of War meets retro, and it's like, hang on,
you can't just say retro because it's like a side
scrolling metro, a vanea like yeah, a lot of modern
game silk, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sosak would never be like we're a retro game. No,
it's a very new game that happens to be two D.
Speaker 3: But it can't seem to decide like it's trying to
occasionally do retro stuff because like a lot of times
the music is just that, just like chanting God of
War music. And then you will fight that boss we
fought on UPF and it's.
Speaker 2: Like did do do do do do? Dude?
Speaker 3: It's like retro like or chip to what doing?
Speaker 2: Pick up your mind if they wanted to do like
the Bloodstained Curse of the Moon thing, right, and like
that's like right, like we're trying to make Castlevania three again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, and then it had like really really shitty scan
line filters that you could throw the classic yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah uh, and then all the characters are kind of
like bad, like I just haven't enjoyed them yet. What
we're gonna ask, like, so there is a co op
mode in this, right, I wonder if that is interesting.
Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't looked at all because actually, yeah,
I'm I don't know, maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong, because
you know, with his brother, I think like you could
play the game with one person is great.
Speaker 3: One is I think I saw people saying that, like
it lists it as a two player game, but people
couldn't figure out how to unlock it, so like that
was like the day came out, So I don't know
if they figured it out by now. Okay, with chat
heerson don't have to beat the game to do co op.
Speaker 2: That we get to unlock the cop you should you
should just happen.
Speaker 3: It's just for challenges after you beat the game.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, ill never mind. That would be interesting because
you know, we don't have too many co ops. Metro
Venue's basically you've got your Guacamele two and then.
Speaker 3: I'm just going off with Chad says here.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's an extremely weird game. It is so
weird to the point of like I just wish someone
would go tell me exactly how it came to be
and why, you know, God of War is not some
like middling franchise that hasn't been footing. Uh, Like, why
does like Horizon get like game after game and gets
like this new like kind of you know, I don't
know if you love the art style, but that new
multiplayer mode at least looks like it had effort put
into it and thought and and this just feels like
such an afterthought that I really don't know how we
ended up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because you've been talking about this game, right,
and you know, I definitely have a different thing in
my mind when you're talking about it, the same God
of War Metroid Vein, And I don't think this game
looks like like, oh got off, like an embarrassment, right,
even that it looks a bit off. Even the thirty
dollars price, that thing that's generally what these games do cost.
I know, soak Song was twenty bucks, so song is
these games? No, these games cost like Prints of Persia
that is thirty like nine souls, it's thirty. That is
normally the price of these. It was sixty, so yeah,
you know it was when Soaksong was twenty dollars, other
indie people were mad at them, like, ah, how can
we compete? They can make their games so cheap. Now,
you know, maybe it's thirty dollars or a game that
doesn't look good, that's the issue, right, But I don't know. Yeah,
part of me is like I like Metroevidia so much,
I you know, watching definitely, I'm like, I bet I
would still enjoy this fine. I'm I'm enjoying parts of it,
and it is.
Speaker 4: I think it's getting better the more I play, and
the more it's like opening up and getting more abilities
and there's less of the setup, so the kind of
the game's just kind of going.
Speaker 2: Uh, the running and jumping around like feels okay.
Speaker 4: Like again, it doesn't feels good as a dread uh
certainly doesn't feel anywhere close to a Silk Song, but
it's beyond serviceable.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 4: So I'm I played some more this morning. I'm gonna
stick with it for at least a little bit longer
I get some other games out.
Speaker 2: Of the way.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, when when we were hearing the rumblings
of this, I decided to kind of go back to
that PSP God of War game. I think it's yeah,
Ghost of Sparta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that game looked good. Yeah, and that was
on a Those.
Speaker 4: Are both very good, probably one of the most impressive
PSP games, like It's right that you know, yeah, probably that.
Speaker 1: And it just seems a weird handling of the franchise,
like we've mentioned previously, of like giving this to like
a different studio that's super external and the end product
being what we get. I would suggest we've had like
the the conversation now of comparing it to Silk Song, Dread,
Prince of Persia, Odds, are you already have those other
three games? And I think maybe we should just replay
Dreads even.
Speaker 2: Like stuff like you know, like Mio right is newer
this year and I don't think a ton of people
have probably played that yet, and maybe like, oh maybe
MEO's no Silk Song, it still looks more interesting than
this though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just like it is confusing to the point
of like when most people look at this game, they
do not like come away wanting to buy it. And
it's like, did that not happen at PlayStation?
Speaker 2: Did that not?
Speaker 4: Like when they were looking at it, they were they
just saying, well, it's god avoor, it needs to look
this way because I don't know that's not true either,
Like how does it end up looking like this to
the point where it is so unappealing to the casual
viewer that you are just doing a disservice to it
by showing it off. So yeah, it's confusing. I don't
know how.
Speaker 2: And there's just there are just so many more interesting
places you could have set one of these, you know,
I realized I probably can't push the four the story
forward with one of these. It's not going to take
place after Ragnarok, but you could have done it in
between three. You could even have done in the middle
of like Angry Krados still and like have one that's
you know, it is the Blades of Chaos and the
other stuff like that. I don't know how many people
were hankering for fifteen year old Kratos game, right, you
could do like some like you could just make it
a uh. He falls through.
Speaker 4: A god timehole and time pauses, so the rest of
the story is untouched, and he goes into this alternate
dimension and fights a bunch of the Greek gods again, Like, yeah,
you can make shit up to like make this game
look the way you needed to make it look.
Speaker 2: And it's so far away.
Speaker 1: From that, they flights around with the story a little
bit with that that DLC that they had for Ragnarrock Valhalla.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that was alf that was that's
like the latest thing we got so far by that
mode was awesome. Actually, that think was great. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like, you know, I get we couldn't do the
Egypt thing here or something like that, but maybe maybe
you should.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Uh, Okay, I mean the game's reviewing
better than I thought it would. It's a seventy two
one open critic, so, uh, like I said, it is
getting better the more I play it. I think that's
what a lot of reviewers are saying. Whereas the more
you play it, more is there. And so it starts
off kind of at its lowest point and by the
time you're done it, it's a much improved game. So
but i'd like, I just would not reck like who's
gonna be like, Okay, but I still hate looking at it,
so I'm not going to buy it now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know if we'll talk about High
Guard continued weirdness today.
Speaker 2: Probably the site is like down as of when we've
been recorded saying it was hacked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I think, I'm I'm, I think we're
all learning that placement in a show definitely matters, because
showing God of War Sons of Sparta way after that
Castlevania game I think was a huge disservice because like
that Castlevania game, I can't stop thinking about it, I.
Speaker 2: Was saying for the talkover new Castlevania. Yeah, that was great.
I'm very excited about that. And and oh, oh that
Star Wars racing game that I picked it. Some of
your like, oh, it's kind of a spicy pick Mike,
I'm like, oh, did I blow it? And it looks good? Awesome,
very happy.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that was a long seg talking about games.
We're gonna take a quick, maybe an extended, little bricky
break here, and then we'll get on the other side
talk about news right after this.
Speaker 2: This is to throw up with spitting. Hey, yeah, let's uh,
let's do this news. And let let's start with what
is always the most things, the most fun thing. To
start with that Ramageddon.
Speaker 4: Ram is expensive, it's only going to get more expensive,
and we continue to hear how it's going to affect
everything in our lives, but also video game consoles PlayStation
six possibly being held on by Sony until twenty twenty
eight or maybe even twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 2: Now no what uh huh.
Speaker 4: They this comes from Bloomberg, who's doing reporting on this.
They also say that the switch to is very likely
to get a price increase because of this. It's gonna
be hard for Nintendo to avoid that. But yeah, apparently
Sony was looking at like twenty twenty seven to get
things started with the next generation, and now they are
pushing that back. And the popular response to this has
been like good, uh, we're We're gonna be happy to
stick with the PS five even longer. But yeah, this
is a generation that's had a lot of reasons to
be prolonged after COVID, and there's still a lot of
games getting canceled throughout that time, So this generation taking
a long time to feel like it got started. And
also the rush to PS six in a time where
where it's like, how are you going to market that?
How are you going to make that feel special? It's
such a huge question mark.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, they might as well take their time,
even though when they do this, it's probably still going
to be the most expensive console like there is there
any way in your guys's eyes that the PS six
comes out whenever it does and it is less expensive
than what a PS five pro is now an yea eight,
I think, yeah, it's like seven to fifty or something
like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's that a PS six is probably gonna be
like around eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna be right.
Speaker 3: This is fucking me up. The PS five and the
Xbox the current one. We're twenty twenty sixty No.
Speaker 2: Those just kid Yeah, no, right, it's been that long
since the pandemic. Oh it's rough.
Speaker 3: Huh what that was was a brand new I just
picked that up.
Speaker 2: Okay, it messed with our sense of time for sure.
Speaker 4: And but you know, a big part with a big
problem with these consoles is just like the PS four
was supported for so long and the exclusive games never
really felt like that much different than what we got
last gen. So people are still, i think, in many cases,
sitting around going when is this really gonna get going?
And that's picked up a little bit in like the
last year or so. But hopefully now with this extra time,
they can really make this console generation feel like it
was worth it.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, yeah it wasna I was gonna say like
part of that too, is because they have to like
lock in specs, right like, and it's you know, you
are handcuffing yourself to a thing that will rapidly age
if you you know, there's a balance, right of, like
committing and locking in those specs, And I think that
plays into it.
Speaker 4: I also think like there probably are they and they
probably are locked in right now yeaheah.
Speaker 5: I also think, like I don't know, like I outside
of the you know, understanding that people for whatever reason
seem to be willing to continue to pay prices that
are pornographic in nature, right of, like how much these
things cost. I also think, you know, a lot changes
in a couple of years. I don't know, a lot
does change, and the world economy can change. And I
also think like there.
Speaker 2: Might be.
Speaker 5: I don't know, more abundance of you know, RAM from
another supplier.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think, I think.
Speaker 5: I think the China conversation is like not, I don't
think there's a dead end there, yeah.
Speaker 4: Like right, none of that's going to happen in the
next year, for sure, You're right, it will take a
couple of years. The like let's say, like AI fell through,
right now and all of that RAM that was getting
sold to those AI data centers was just now, hey,
we were going to give this to them, but they
went out of business, so now we have it.
Speaker 2: Up for grabs.
Speaker 4: A lot of that stuff is like high bandwidth memory
that would still be really prohibitively expensive to put into
a into a video card or a console or something
like that.
Speaker 2: It's not the same thing. They have just deemphasized their
efforts to keep up with DDR five and DDR six
and DDR seven and DDR six x or whatever. So
it's a real mess.
Speaker 4: Like it's not like going to be like suddenly there
is one magic bullet that comes along and makes things better.
Speaker 2: It will have to be like sustained.
Speaker 4: Efforts from these companies working in that direction, and right
now there is no effort whatsoever to improve it. So
we are a long ways off from this being a
market that is saying in any way, And in the meantime,
if you are trying to say, hey, we are trying
to design a PS six that's going to have what
they say, thirty gigabytes of RAM or something like that,
it was like twenty four to thirty gigabytes of DDR seven.
That's a very expensive proposition and they're going to have
to kind of figure out what that looks like and
if they can keep that going and actually deliver a
product that has those specs.
Speaker 2: All right, that's continuing on this thread.
Speaker 4: Steam deck stock issues are basically confirmed by Valve, and
they said that there will be be intermittent shortages for
all the reasons you think.
Speaker 2: It's about the RAM and the storage costs.
Speaker 4: Both those are going up in price and it's causing delays,
especially in places like United States.
Speaker 2: Whe then there's tariffs on top of that. So Valve's
saying expect these intermittent shortages to happen throughout the rest
of the year. At the very least.
Speaker 4: It's things are just gonna be bad and kind of
get worse, and they're gonna be expensive, and they're gonna
get more expensive. It is a hobby that was already
pushing a lot of people away. How do all these
companies sort of navigate this?
Speaker 2: Is there? I mean, is there an answer? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't think there's an easy answer, Greb. I think
companies are just gonna have to rely on what we've
already got, right, and folks that didn't pick up a
Steam Deck, don't have a PS five. They're just kind
of be left out in the dust.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Apparently in the UK, PlayStation started a PlayStation rental
program where you can rent it for like ten pounds
a month or something like that.
Speaker 2: So, man, the other time I rented a game consoles,
when I rented the Dreamcast before it came out from
my Hollywood video, I rented a PlayStation one. Yeah, a
Tosha Dan was real good. Actually, y'all have heard me
talk about libraries. Some libraries will let you do the
same for so, so go investigate.
Speaker 4: They didn't say like when to expect this to get
cleared up, and they don't know.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And then the a sus rog Xbox ally X got
a big price increase in Japan, went up by around
two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and.
Speaker 4: That that is on top of that that or that
is due to once again the memory. That thing has
like twenty four gigabytes of dd R five of the
lower powered variety, and like you can get a model
that has a terabyte of storage, and both of those
are getting very hit arter.
Speaker 2: How much do we need all this memory? We can
make these game causles out memory. Why do that to
remember so much things? That's pretty stupid.
Speaker 5: And I mean, Mike, it's got a point.
Speaker 4: No, I like, maybe the frustrating thing here is how
stupid that these companies that are causing this problem.
Speaker 2: I think Chris Person pointed.
Speaker 4: This out, like, you need a device that has memory
to be able to use the cloud and all this
AI stuff in the first place. So if you're just
gonna make that stuff more expensive, you're gonna maybe price
people out from connecting to it in.
Speaker 2: The first place. Uh, it's just a bad, bad guy,
you know, across the board.
Speaker 3: Need you to uh identify something here, Okay, is this
a is this a tariff thing, an AI thing, both
or more complicated?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's all those. Yeah, it's all the above. Okay.
Speaker 4: So it's primarily a AI thing that is causing the
biggest pressure on the cost.
Speaker 3: Of because centers are using too much and they're buying
up all this stuff.
Speaker 4: They are they are paying like a premium on top
of the already high costs for these things so that
they can get priority and get first in line, and
so all this money is just impossible for these companies
that are publicly traded companies to ignore, and so they
they aren't ignoring it. And because they are a finite
they have finite resources, they are ignoring the traditional markets
that create the memory that went in your consoles or
witt in your phone or written all these other things.
Uh So, like they aren't building up those manufacturing plants anymore.
They're kind of letting them just run as they were,
and that is meaning that they can't keep up with
the rising demand that is happening on that side. And
then for the United the United States specifically, then tariffs
get piled on top of that. So this already bad
cost is going.
Speaker 2: Up even.
Speaker 3: Just making more right, that's it's more complicated.
Speaker 4: So there are three companies that make it six Uh yes,
they make they make memory, sk High Nix, Samsung and.
Speaker 2: You see is it Micron? Maybe it's my I think
it's should make it Ram to the giant pop store problem.
Speaker 5: The problem with RAM is that you can't just make it.
You need like a factory that takes like seven years
to build, and you need like a very clean.
Speaker 3: Three D M Yeah, you get on the RAM grift.
We gotta do that, Come.
Speaker 2: On, Chuck, solve it.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, it's uh Micron, Like there's three companies and
Micron left the consumer space last year because of this.
They're like, we can make way more money just sewing
it to the data center. So fuck consumers, and some
of you.
Speaker 1: Related to fuck consumers. I someone posted in chat and
I looked it up. Apparently Western Digital is sold out
of hard drives for twenty twenty six already.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well maybe they're allotments. Is that what they're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they already like it, but for already and we're
only in February.
Speaker 2: That's insane. And am I going to get USB drives?
Speaker 4: I think that yeah is going to be the here
we got nasty and all got nasses, So that's that's unfortunate.
Speaker 5: Listen, don't forget folks, listeners, viewers, watchers, consumers. Jiba will
never force you to upgrade your RAM to enjoy our content.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can watch pack yeah and will be will
be chocolate covered, inedible.
Speaker 2: You won't have a problem in the shape of a
dragged exactly. We're like the big knockers. Yeah, how sweet.
Speaker 1: That's where the RAM comes in. Oh of course, that's
that's how it works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well, Uh, this the stakes.
Speaker 4: I don't think that we're going to have like any
sort of easy path out of this.
Speaker 2: Will developers make sort of.
Speaker 4: Adjustments to their games, recognizing that people are not going
to be able to keep up with having a minimum
of like thirty two gigabytes in their in their systems,
in their PCs. Sounds like some of them are thinking
that there's already been at least one company, I can't
remember what game it was they walked back their minimum
specs like we are going to require less RAM. Don't
freak out, So hopefully that becomes it.
Speaker 2: Certainly seems like we have got to be a time
where the whole unless you're rock Star making grantha to
a six. Yeah, no, nobody wants to hear about like
this is gonna be the most hyphened game ever. We
don't want that. Actually, can't you make your games look
much worse? Please? Yep?
Speaker 4: Make it run on my potato and then and then
don't release a PS six for several more years, please.
Speaker 5: Yes, Even d d R for RAM is like going
up in.
Speaker 4: I mean that's because, like they probably have, they were
already deemphasizing that before any of this happened, right, they
were like, well, we're not gonna build any new d
d R four plants.
Speaker 5: So yeah, no one could know this was gonna happen.
So and no one saw this coming. There were zero
warning signs. It's a it's an act of God, is really.
Speaker 2: What it is.
Speaker 4: And the billionaires that are in these spaces that are
causing this, I think it's probably a good thing because
that means we'll have to just rent our computers from
Nvidia in the future, so that that's what they want
they get to be in. There's another space where they
could be our landlords and it's our computers, which is
just an exciting possibility.
Speaker 2: Crib.
Speaker 1: Do you think that could actually legitimately lead to some small,
small resurgence of like internet cafes.
Speaker 4: J Yeah, we should definitely be doing that slash cat
cafe you we have a'mout. Yes, I think I think
we will see a resurgence of stuff along those lines,
maybe maybe more often people getting their library card and
going to their library right using the computers there go
do that. But uh, yep, all right, Uh, Nintendo's got
a new wave of wave for our everybody. It's the
best thing that they are very good at delivering dmcash.
They are basically hitting every switch emulator.
Speaker 2: Repo on GitHub. They've done this before, they're doing it again.
Speaker 4: Uh of course. Uh, you know, this is their way
of like going out there and showing that they're active
and throwing their weight around. It's not gonna have too
much of an effect because the people that really know
what they're doing with this stuff will host the repos
themselves and all these things have backups outside again hub. Uh,
So it's really just kind of a surface level.
Speaker 2: Like stopping people from being able to find it like.
Speaker 4: Relatively easy easily. But yeah, Nintendo's still out there doing
this thing. They were primarily going after switch emulators, though
here this is still them being like that was hit
that head a little bit too close to our money maker.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: The the emulation scene kind of got up and running
a little bit faster than we were comfortable with. So
we are going to come down hard and uh, you know,
we have moved past the switch now for the most part.
They haven't stopped releasing switch games though, so I'm not
too surprised to see them coming out and doing this.
It's Nintendo. They are mostly lawyers at this point. M
uh any dot Hack fans Yo, Yes, could have could
have guessed that, could have guessed.
Speaker 3: Me and d we're the number one.
Speaker 2: Hack curious, but I never Uh. Well, that cyber Connect
two game that was getting teased was them confirming that
they are making dot Hack zero positioned as a restart
of dot hack from zero, and so it has nothing
to do with like I think there was some novels
called dot hag zero. Nothing to do with that, confusing.
Speaker 4: This is this is them starting over from scratch, and
apparently they've been working on it for a long time
or at least thinking about it for a long time.
Speaker 2: It's going to be an action RPG. Uh.
Speaker 4: And they also said, like they they in the previous games,
there would there would be sort of gestures towards the
real world. Dot Hack was a game within a game,
and you were playing inside of it. It's MMO inside
of the game called the world, I think, and uh,
then you could get some taste of what was happening
outside of the world from emails and a handful of
other things. Here, it's going to be like, oh no,
we did that back then because we wanted to save
money and time. There will be no such restraints this time,
we are going to be fully exploring both sides. That
jan what does that say to you?
Speaker 1: That's actually pretty cool. I thought dot Hack was an
interesting thing to come out in a post matrix world
where folks were so used to and I guess is
for me at least, it kind of led to Pokemon
not Pokemon Mega Man Battle Network, where you kind of
have that integration.
Speaker 2: Yea into the same spot. Yeah, jumping into a world.
So that's cool.
Speaker 1: I I enjoyed the little emails and like the little
text stuff that would come out of it. I wonder
if that might muddy the flow of the game a bit,
because you know, you're in an action RPG in the
the world of the world that I don't know what
you would do in a real life part of dot
Hack other than I don't know, answer emails and it's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be like the real life part of Assassin's Crea.
You're mostly just talking to people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking at it, Yeah, I could be yeah, trying
to buy ram I don't know, you.
Speaker 3: Know what, I would love to do. This is never possible,
Like I know, they bring back all these games in
different ways, they said they never could, but I can't
imagine this could ever happen. Majestic, the EA game from
two thousand and one. Do you remember this? It was
like it was an arc thing. So it's like characters
would message, they would text you and say like, oh,
I'm gonna I'm gonna get a hold of you tomorrow
at two am, and they would do it, and it's
like you have to go on the actual internet instead
it facts you.
Speaker 2: I think it might have faxed you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll call you.
Speaker 2: You get AOL Instant Messengers message.
Speaker 3: It's got Joey Pa.
Speaker 5: Remember this.
Speaker 3: I just think that there's just no way you could
ever replicate that. But I was always so curious about
what the fuck that was.
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, Giant Bomb had an alternate reality game, right,
yeah we should we should be the ones doing these
now he did Majestic. Yeah, the Giant Bomb.
Speaker 3: It was like the game with Michael Douglas, which again
I've always just they should make the game real, and
they kind of tried and no one bought it.
Speaker 2: If the game is real, Dan, I promise I'll get
it for you.
Speaker 3: You'll be my Sean Pa.
Speaker 2: You're going I will be your Michael Douglas the game.
You thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: I love that movie to death, but it is on
it It's like in a vacuum. It's awesome, and then
when you think about it.
Speaker 3: It's credibly I would like to be the one riding
the game. Actually, I don't want to be Michael Douglas.
I would Mike Manatti will be our Mike Douglas. I'll
be the person I.
Speaker 5: Want to be Michael Douglas because you are forced to
try to commit suicide at the end of the work.
Speaker 3: Not to spoil the game it is.
Speaker 5: But until Michael Douglas hits the fucking balloon, Matt, he
thinks he's killing him, but then it's a fucking party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always good to get a part.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure. Like that was the
other thing I couldn't believe about that movie. He like
dusts all the glass off himself and he's like, whoa,
it's just all for me, Champagne sick.
Speaker 3: Thanks for coming incredible movie.
Speaker 5: Twenty seconds ago, I was trying to kill myself, but glad.
Speaker 2: Not literal, Like that movie can't be a literal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one that kills himself. Mario kills himself
in that movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a reality where Nintendo had him assassinated.
Speaker 2: That's very different.
Speaker 3: It's a crazy movie.
Speaker 5: Great, it is crazy. It is well done, Like it's
definitely entertaining, but it's also insane adventure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and that's and that's stock hacks here.
Speaker 4: Everybody poke came on Pucopia is getting cloud Island servers.
So basically what the thing here is. And yeah, this
isn't worthy thing because the game will host your world
online even when you aren't logged in, which is very
convenient if you like want to get a friend group
together and work together building stuff in a world. That's
not how it works in Animal Crossing and Animal Crossing,
like someone has to be online and then you join
their world. Here, the world will just be there, so
people can like go in there and like do things
while you're at work, and you come home and see
like what they did. And that's ideal for one of
these games where you are supposed to be sort of
be existing in.
Speaker 2: The space Tocopia. Okay, let's do it. Okay, I'll visit
to Copia. It kind of took. This game's getting some
buzz now, Like I was kind of I was like
this thing I don't know now, you know, I've been
convinced me learning it's from the Dragon Quest builders people
when people love those games, and there was some previews
people seem high on it, like, yeah, I'm kind of
like ready for this to hit pretty good now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's gonna do all right. At the
very least, it's going to be a sale success. We'll
see how the reviews do. Like that's kind of up
in the air, but seems like the fandom is ready
to embrace this game, and I'm getting kind of excited
about it.
Speaker 2: I got that game for two doll hairs on Fantasy
Oh nice a coconut.
Speaker 4: We talked about the virtual bully. I won't work, the
virtually Apple won't work.
Speaker 2: While doc a question about that. Yeah, yeah, please, so
you see the two screens when it's on DOC though, Yes,
and I'm very good at magic guy. We've established it. Yes,
you could do it. I could do that. I could
just magic. If you cross, if you, if you if
you used your superpower of being able to do whatever
the fuck you want to your eyes like some sort
of freak, you can cross the streams and if you
line up the two things by crossing your eyes just right.
It will look three D. All right you I'm making
I'm making your screen bigger. Did okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, here you go, Mitch, what do you want to play?
Speaker 2: I already had it crossed. Give me something I'm giv Yeah.
The further away, the further way you are from the screen, like,
the easier it will be. You need it easy, I know,
I know. Cold.
Speaker 1: We not just like take the video feed like I
take the video feed and just overlap them to make
it work.
Speaker 2: I need no further way. It's easier. You gotta wind
snow that's too close and also very blurry. There you
just all I can see is macho man and me Hilaire.
Also your screen background Dremy Claire. I was doing it
that entire time. That's awesome. I hope you enjoyed it.
Something terrible that would be probably pretty bad for my
eyes to do that.
Speaker 3: It seems to be like a feature, Mike.
Speaker 4: I think it seems like you're good at it to
the point where it's like, I don't know if it
actually would be bad for your eyes, but let's say yes,
just in case someone at home tries to do it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: The Virtual Boy Library at launch as a reminder is
three D Tetris Galactic Pinball just okay golf, which is
not great, The Mansion of Endsmith, which I think is
kind of garbage, Red Alarm also garbage, teleroboxers not the worst,
but it's not great. And then Virtual Boy warrior Land,
which is actually pretty good.
Speaker 3: That seems like the only decent ish one. What was
the one that was kind of the starboks. I played
a little bit of that.
Speaker 2: Oh that one, Red Alarm, Oh yeah alarm, Yeah, nothing crazy,
it's and it's that's one where the whole only black
and red. Uh. It just thinks makes things pretty difficult
to discern.
Speaker 4: Blizzards bringing Warlock class to Diablo for Lords of Hatred,
Diablo two and Diablo Immortal. I didn't add this, Who
added this? And this is what it sing.
Speaker 2: So you know, there's that Diabolo Lord of Hatred expansion
coming for Diablo four later this year, and we always do.
There's going to be a second class Paladin already came out.
Second class is Warlock, so that's neat sure we haven't
had Warlock and Diablo before. Then they're like, it's also
coming to Diabolo Immortal, which is the free to play
Diablo game. Sure, and then they're like, it's coming to
Diablo two. And Diablo two has not had a new
class since its expansion came out like two thousand and one.
You say actual Diablo, who I mean scared to the
remake that they made a few years back, which is
a great remake. And the remake has the original graphics
in there if you want, so, you know it's in
that they released it that day. This is out now.
I haven't had a chance to check it out yet
because I've been traveling. But the idea that Diablo two
got a new class and twenty twenty six, that is
so freaking cool to me. I like the newer Diabolos,
but I've never liked them nearly as much as Diablo two.
There's just a pace and a feel and a tone
of that game that I absolutely adore. I've been kind
of wanting to go back to it, and having this
as an excuse. Oh my gosh, that's so exciting. Just
just adding new content like this to a Super Bowl
game is awesome. I can't wait to dive into this. Yeah,
that's really neat. I wonder like they're just saying people
still play that game all the time, we are still
selling it. This is a.
Speaker 4: Fun way to get people thinking about Diablo, regardless of
whatever Diablo they want to be thinking about.
Speaker 2: Very good. Yeah, and I know, I know the price
is high. It's like twenty five dollars. I don't know
what else that comes with, right, they're kind of trying
to they're trying to make It's not like it's like
an expansion. But aside from the new character, I don't
know what. It's not like there's a new act in
the game or saying that there's some quality of my
stuff that they added as well. I assume that's just
part of a patch.
Speaker 1: Mike, do you know what the state of Diablo Immortal
is or Immortals?
Speaker 2: No idea. I was just wondering about that, Like what's
going on with Diablo A Mortal. I'm think is it
a thing where it's still popular everywhere? Maybe it's still
really popular and like Asia or something. I have no idea. Really,
it's it's it's personally not a going concern, not that
that game was ever terrible, but especially once y'all before
was out, I'll just play that. If I want to
do a modern Diablo Last story here. Hideki Sado, who
was the visionary who shaped many of Sega's consoles, has died.
He was the former Sega president. He was basically integral
to designing all of their consoles, especially so I guess
the Dreamcast, but he was involved in the genesis everything.
Speaker 4: He recently died, and he was like when he was
designing the Dreamcast, said he wanted to do that because
he was obsessed with play and communication, so he included
a modem as well as the Visual Memory Unit the VMU.
He's got quite a legacy, so wrestful trails to HITDECKI.
Speaker 2: Sato, Yeah, I loved the Sega consoles and Dreamcast especially
just has such a strong just look and features and
stuff I was doing with internet play in the VMU.
When I play a Dreamcast today and I have that
VMU in there and I see the little things happening
in the VMU, I still think that is so intimate.
It's so awesome. Yeah. So yeah, thank you. Thanking to
him for incredible work over the years. And happy trails. Yep.
Speaker 4: He retired in two thousand and eight and I got
to have quite a few years there just kind of
kick him back.
Speaker 2: He earned it all right. That does it for the news.
Jan Hennon. The showback over to you folks.
Speaker 1: Who were going to take a quick bricky break, and
we will be back with email and any YouTube superchants
if we got them.
Speaker 2: We'll see you on the other side.
Speaker 7: These are the emails for the shows.
Speaker 1: BombCast at Giant Bomb is the email address to send
your emails to. You can write in about any and everything.
Thanks to y'all for sending emails in. We've been getting
a bunch every week and I'm pleasantly surprised. It tickles
me in a very special Uh.
Speaker 2: I like it. We'll just say that.
Speaker 1: I can't say. I can't say Mike. First email comes
from Rob from Illinois.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's funny that we brought up the Nintendo lawyers
because this may get them on the phone. But Jeff Grabb,
I feel like your expertise would help out Rob a lot. Hello,
Bomb Crew, first time writer, longtime listener. I run sports
psychology session for volleyball teams and would love to set
up four copies of Beach Spikers Nintendo GameCube with four
controllers each so that an entire team can run play
at any given time. Well, there are many volleyball games
out on the market, all of which I've tried. Beach
Spikers has just the right feel in cooperation for what
I want to do with these teams. So what would
be the best way for me to get this set
up going outside of procuring the actual hardware for GameCubes
four discs for controllers, I would love to consider this
as low cost as possible, the easiest to procure in
the States, and with as little Nintendo jail as possible.
Thanks for keeping keeping up the great ork fuck Ice
Rob from Illinois.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so for GameCube, you're gonna be pretty good
emulating that with Dolphin, and you know, it's still gonna
get pretty expensive, like having to get all those controllers.
But I would just recommend going to a secondhand shop,
maybe getting Xbox three sixty controllers even like those would
be fine. You just plug the plug those.
Speaker 3: In pretty cheap like GameCube like wired USB controllers that
you can buy like a two or they suck.
Speaker 2: Right, they're super cheap sucks.
Speaker 4: But maybe you could try to try those out and
see how you feel. Maybe get one of them and
see if they, like will hold up to a lot
of use. But yeah, I mean, go and get like
old laptops and just get dolphins set up on there.
Speaker 2: I think it'll be fine. You could also get retro
pie I bet, oh yeah, those.
Speaker 4: I bet a raspberry pie can do a dolphin just fine,
like a modern raspberry pie. And those used to be
like thirty five bucks. I bet they're not much more
than that these days, even for like a higher end one,
although those have ram as well, so who knows what's happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe get a bunch of those and then
a bunch of second hand controllers and go that route.
Like that's probably the cheapest way to do it. I'll
being able to have it set up permanently and with
a bunch of controllers in all that. Man, I never
played beef spikers. I don't know. It just looked. I
don't have it. Uh. I kind of want to think.
There's only one volleyball game from that generation that I played.
I don't have to say which one.
Speaker 1: There you go, Rob, Thank you for the advice, grub,
and thank you Mike Manatti for further insight into your brain.
Speaker 2: I'll choke the chicken. Okay, all right, I heard you.
I heard God, I heard you got it Uh.
Speaker 1: Next email comes from perhaps one of my favorite emailer
names or user names. Yahwi Bunga right sin, Hello, Giant Bomb.
I have recently become a premium member. Hey, real quick,
Mike Manatti. How can someone become a premium member?
Speaker 2: If you want to become a premium member, which not
only means that you are supporting us as independent games media,
but you are getting access to exclusive new premium only
shows like grub Snacks, The Nine Lives of Mister Mustapha
Fleas and our upcoming show with Abby Russell, Marry Me,
Tomadacci and more. Everybody, there's more well within the works. Yes, yeah,
that's exciting stuff happening over there. You need to go
to giant bomb dot com slash join to join on
monthly basis, you can join yearly. Save a little money
on that way. It's very nice. Yeah, we love you,
but we but we love you more when you pay us.
So do that.
Speaker 3: If we're just there's so many different forms of Mikey.
You get Angry Blake love Mikey, you get Disney Mikey.
I do think my favorite is probably sales pitch Mikey. Yeah, yeah,
he's scary.
Speaker 2: We canna get another bankrupting games on that side of
you can come, we'll get that out.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh g Now I wonder why he has
so much cash in his wallet anyway, yawibunka. Right, So hello,
Giant Bomb. I've recently become a Premium member and have
received a copy of Sectory.
Speaker 2: For my troubles and what do you know?
Speaker 1: But I love it just like you, but just like
you all, but unfortunately I'm quite shit at it. So
I was hoping you could all share some gamer tips
and tricks for us desperately poor players of Sectory. Thank
you for the show each week, yallibunka.
Speaker 3: I mean without going to because there's way like deep
level strats stuff like that about keeping strike combos and
stuff going. I think the most important thing to say,
and it's important to say it because Jacob Geller, who
was very good at this and better than us of
this game, didn't know this very basic thing. So if
he didn't know it, you definitely need to know it.
It is, if you strike into a token, any token,
upgrade token, one of the like bomb things whatever, you
instantly refill your strike meter. So do not ever just
run in to upgrade token. If you can help it.
Obviously if it's recharging, you don't really have a choice,
but you want to strike into every token and that'll
recharge it. And then once you get that down, then
you can start looking into extending your strike combos if
you're going for real score hunt type stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it would like get to a point
where you understand what makes you more survivable. So, like
drones are better than you think they are because they
absorb hits and they like can shoot it the little
things that are coming at you that you might not see.
So you could kind of like pull your vision out
a little bit more and have a slightly larger cone
you could pay attention to, which is huge in the
game actually, And really it's about getting past that first
stage of the game where it's at its hardest because
you have the least capabilities with your ship. So try
a bunch of different builds, try a bunch of different
card stacks and decks, and kind of just get to
a point where you are at the end of the
game and you feel like I could kind of keep
flying here without getting hit, but that takes a while.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. Thank you for the tips. S Tory will wind
up on every single episode of this podcast.
Speaker 2: For number twelve of the World, I did be Jacob
Galler against Jesus. I beat him by like two thousand points. Dan,
I'm like right there. Good.
Speaker 3: That feels even crazy. Yes, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: I just saw my lights flicker and there's a little
bit of a rainstorm happening here in San Francisco. So
I just had to delete a good chunk of these
emails because we got so many gang So I'm gonna
continue going down the line. I didn't write this emailer down.
But for folks watching the Olympics, are the Blade Angels
really cool? Fucking cool? They seem cool? Yes they are.
Speaker 2: I mean they're the Blade Angels. Are they as cool?
What are those two people in Mighty Ducks two? The
two bros as cool as the Bash Bros? Very close?
Speaker 1: I shouts out to Oakland's own Alyssa lou U fucking
tearing up the ice skating rink.
Speaker 2: Wonderful performance.
Speaker 1: All right, moving along, Jonathan writes in Dudes, I'm about
to walk into a meeting with my boss and pitch
the idea of working remotely in Canada. I live and
work in Texas right now, I'm very much a bundle
of nerves and I can't get that song out of
my head. I think the song is helping. I'll let
you guys know how it goes.
Speaker 2: Jonathan writes in later, Guys, it didn't go well. I like,
I bet that doesn't work out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, somehow, you're Texas based company.
Speaker 4: You can just do it, dude, Just like say, I
am in Canada, Now what are you gonna do? And
then if.
Speaker 2: I bet they won't, I bet they won't.
Speaker 3: Actually they just come to Minnesota. We'd rather it's basically
Canada here in Minnesota, just coming here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there there you go.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving the state one way or another. Wish me luck, Jonathan,
You wish you well.
Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 3: By the way, I already love Canada. A lot of
our best comedians and wrestlers come from Canada. And now
talking about your band the show, which that movie is
aggressively Canadian.
Speaker 2: It's just like Man Toronto specifically. Yeah, like there are
a bunch of like curtling cheaters over there. I don't
know about that.
Speaker 4: There are bad Canadians, it's true, but they exist, best
of them. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, they're mostly like right wing grifters.
Speaker 5: But yes, yeah, what do you mean, Jeff Grubb?
Speaker 1: That's good, that's really good. Mitch from Michigan. Right, so
I should say Michigan, Hey, I always watch listen to
all your videos and podcasts at two times speed. Bundle
of Nerves is a better song at two times speed.
I'm not good, but significantly better. Does anyone a GB
watch slash listen to things on higher speed than normal?
I started with audio books and it's just kind of
led over to everything to the point where now I hate,
hate it when anything doesn't have some kind of speed
option with love, Mitch from Michigan.
Speaker 3: I'm full was it David Lynch doing the like you're
gonna watch a movie on your fucking phone? Like I
am full on? Like you don't mess with that stuff.
Things are for for podcasts though, Yeah you're wrong, he doesn't, right,
But that's about and I think I have a thing
on that makes it so it automatically snips out like breaks.
If there's a lot of breaking, it's like a smart
thing or something which.
Speaker 5: Definitely flies in the face of what you're.
Speaker 3: There's not a movie, it's some fellows talking about wrestling.
Speaker 2: Of course, that's why it's okay, but he's yeah, but
he did it to be clear, this email or didn't
talk about movies.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I think about like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, no one's doing that the movies didn't.
Speaker 4: I think I think they did it for like a
very specific like use case, but it's not for what
people thought it was. But like, yeah, I have started
doing this, and I've discovered that for like audio books
and for podcasts and YouTube videos, if I increase the speed,
it's easier for me to follow. I'm really yeah, it's like, oh,
I was having trouble because people are taking a long
time to get their point out.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure I'm guilty of on this podcast.
Speaker 4: So it's like when I sped up the speed, I
could like get to their next point faster, and it
all began to like web together my brain a little
bit easier.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's okay for audiobooks too. Uh you know,
I think it's okay.
Speaker 2: I don't go like two x for audiobooks.
Speaker 5: No, that seems a little too quick, maybe like one
point five or one five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one point seven five. Yeah.
Speaker 5: If I'm if I'm watching like an instructional YouTube video,
like a fucking course I'm putting that on two X.
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Really? Because like, I'm so skeptical because like a lot
of my audio books are kind of like I like
my current ones about like the history of language families,
and I feel like it's it's already hard enough to
absorb this information. I like, I speed it up. I'm
just gonna it's everyone's gonna be different on that stuff. Yeah,
there's a lot of things. I think it's ADHD's a
big part of it. Like that helps me. I want
to I want to mess with this guy who listens
to me at two time speed and talk normal.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, sounds would be.
Speaker 2: Kind of terfied to hear what my sounds like at
two time speed. Someone on the inter net was mean
about my voice again the other day and screwed up.
Speaker 3: Slow down.
Speaker 2: I think that it would become more pitchy at higher speed. Still,
like you're doing it.
Speaker 3: Wrong him the right way back, Lark, you.
Speaker 2: Do discords kind.
Speaker 7: Of gunderstand you like Sacon, he said, become sloth from
zoo to we're not just doing.
Speaker 2: The impressions of that. I thought, well, that's what we
were doing, only back there sounded like that to the
Opisode'm gona talk really fast, and so it's gonna be
like four times speed. Oh my god, but he's.
Speaker 3: Doing that, tell us a brisket joke. Slow, no, stop to.
Speaker 2: You know what. I'm actually got a cameo request to
do that one again, and they wanted me to work
bacon bacon's. Remember bacon bacons.
Speaker 5: I've noticed you ever watched the I forget what the
what it's called. But instead of reading a sentence, what
was it what.
Speaker 2: It's called, it's called a TV that's a radio.
Speaker 5: Yeah, instead of reading a sentence, if I see the
words individually blasted at my face, I can read that
comprehend quicker.
Speaker 2: Same.
Speaker 4: Yes, I was like surprised by that, but it's like
they could you blast it like a really high.
Speaker 1: I would one hundred percent read a full book that way.
Speaker 5: I think it has to do with like the way
you memorize what words look.
Speaker 2: Like shah, like the whole word memorization or recognition.
Speaker 3: J Jenna, I'm finally seeing Marty Supreme tonight. Should I
go like four time speed with that? Would that help?
Speaker 2: Oh? No, Dan, your heart will explode. I want that.
I'm going to watch that stressful movie about the mom
with the dying daughter. You were talking about the fire
escape at two time speed.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know what that would do to that movie.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Moving on with emails uh K train from uh D.
I don't know where that is, Hey bomb a Stein's
how do you guys prepare your oatmeal? Use milk or
are you correct and use water?
Speaker 2: Also?
Speaker 1: Can we all agree maple brown sugar is the best oatmeal?
Love the show much love.
Speaker 2: I do love that. That's correct. I use I use them,
you know.
Speaker 3: I think my favorite is the one I had this morning,
which was the Fruity Cereal flavor of oats overnight code.
Speaker 2: In the chat, folks code in the chat. Use the
oats code, Folks.
Speaker 3: There fruity Cereal. It was like fruity pebbles and oatmeal
formers delicious. I had cookies and cream yesterday. Can you
believe it? They made it possible?
Speaker 2: So gross? That one is cookies and cream.
Speaker 3: It's one of the highest rated ones. He's got like
a four point eight three average Overnight's code.
Speaker 2: I appreciate.
Speaker 5: My code gives you more, gives you more receipts. Not true, And.
Speaker 3: I got my innovator steel shaker from Oats overnight. For
getting so many referrals, they send you an Innovator steel
oats shaker.
Speaker 2: It's wow.
Speaker 3: It's after two shakes and I'm back to my plastic. Wow,
it gets all cry honesty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the rating for those cookies and cream oats?
Speaker 3: I thought it was like a four point eight three
or some because I sort by not as.
Speaker 2: Good as Metroit Prime for that was like a beautiful.
Speaker 5: One Yes, what a beautiful one timer right there. I'm
so happy, tactile baby. That's good, Mike, I saw and
I just sent everything I.
Speaker 2: Had the audience back after that slow reading, I don't
think they liked it. They did, like, I don't think
they can.
Speaker 3: We change our rating system to a thousand point systems
point eight three to a game.
Speaker 5: Let's adopt the Olympic scale. Yeah, there we go of
speed skating. U No, I think uh. I think the
fruity serial one is uh deed, Tierra, I am with
you on cookies and cream cinnamon roll.
Speaker 3: Those are two favorites.
Speaker 5: Those are like cookie dough too, I thought. I thought, yeah,
open line the better code. My coat also looks better.
Speaker 3: With an Innovator steel shaker. And he doesn't want that
they're bad.
Speaker 2: It's more attractive because I will eat unsweetened oat meal
with an egg a fried egg on it sometimes.
Speaker 1: Oh wait what yeah, well, y'all know me. I don't
like sweet things. Besides, Mikey over here. You know, dude,
I like that. I like your style.
Speaker 5: Wait, so you're putting a fried egg on top of
complete raw dog oatmeal.
Speaker 1: R throwing that bad boy, and you're like a chef
guy and you're running pretend.
Speaker 3: Can you just I'm just curious because I've never known
anyone that's tried this and you're running. Now, can you
just wake up and do the Rocky style once and
let me know how it goes. On a podcast, it
was like four.
Speaker 2: Eggs, try one.
Speaker 3: You gotta see the scene. You gotta make it exactly
like the scene. I think it's dark when he wakes
up and he's like, I want to fucking get up
and run, and then it's like four eggs or something.
He chugs it and go So I want to hear
how that goes.
Speaker 1: Jason Finelli, I'm just going to sleep over at the
house real quick, just so I can reenact the whole scene. Okay, okay,
the impossible pivot to a very serious email. This comes
from John from Queens, New York Highdooters. I've been going
through a rough patch recently as my mom passed away
shortly before Christmas. As I was writing her eulogy, I
really came to appreciate that she was one. She was
the one that got me into video games growing up.
My mom had a Genesis SNS and a game Boy.
She loved the classic two D Mario and Sonic games,
and we would play those together or take turns with
a game Boy so we could try to beat each
other's high score in Tetris. Even if she tapped out
after the sixteen era sixteen bit era, she remained supportive
of my love of gaming, and I'll always be thankful
for how cool that was. My question for you all
is what role did your parents play in your early gaming?
Did they play games themselves, have a curiosity about your home,
or just leave you in peace while you caught your
Pokemon pokemons in the back seat of the car ps.
Thanks for all you do on the podcast, for being
friendly voices in my ear when I needed them the most.
John and Queens New York. First off, sorry for your
loss Uh, absolutely, yeah, but you know, that's that's great
that you have those memories. My parents didn't really play games.
Speaker 2: I think my older brother remembers one we got the
ness r My dad bought it, brought it over. He
showed them like how to like run and Mario, and
maybe played golf once and that was it. Uh. In fact,
in general, when I was young, it was very rare
for me to come across adults in general who are
playing games. It was still very much these are the
toys for the kids, and that's what they're going to do. Well,
we play trivial pursuitter poker in the den.
Speaker 3: My dad actually had a pretty big influence early on
him and my stepdad actually because my early before I
was probably like three or so years old, and I
remember watching my dad and my stepdad playing RBI baseball
against each other all the time. Uh and even been
backlarer you running them myth again. Yes, that's right. They
lived together, and I just remember my dad. My dad
would get so mad because whenever he was winning, my
stepdad would just be like, oh, the computer likes you better.
The computer likes you better, and just made my dad furious.
And then once my stepdad moved.
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 3: Once my stepdad moved in with my mom and I
went to dad's place, I was old enough to play
games with them, so, like Mario Kart was huge. You know,
I got the Superintendo, so we played Mario Kart together
all the time. He loved Star Fox. Like he worked
at the grocery store, and he would time his brakes
to like he could drive home real quick and do
a full Grand Prix with me and then drive back
to the grocery store in time like during the left. Yeah, yeah,
cick to the past. We both liked a lot. And
then back at Mom's place, my stepdad, him and I
really connected on video games. The Soul Caliber Twist, the
Middle two Command of Conquer GoldenEye. That's when I built
like a cardboard divider for the screen, so it's like
I could flow it up and I put a little
bilker on the side. So I would lay on the
ground looking at the bottom screen for Golden Eye, and
he would sit up in a lawn chair above there,
and we would do like we couldn't see each other's screens.
So yeah, I have a lot of good memories with
both dad and Kala's dad.
Speaker 4: I think my uh my dad only ever played Stealth
at F for the ne E S, which is a
realistic flight city, right, yeah, the realistic flight simulator based
on the F one one seven, a stealth bomber.
Speaker 2: Which of course he was he was obsessed with, which
I yeah, I get it. Uh.
Speaker 4: And we played that game and every single time we
would take off, we would fly, and then it would
come time to land, and we never got that fun
once once in years of trying.
Speaker 2: It's not like we played it for a week and
put it down. We tried over and over again. Uh. Yeah,
that's one where I'm like, oh, I should go back
to that now and see what's the mount Rushmore of
nys Dad games like it's one's up there? Yeah, and
Vegas Dreams. Yeah, okay, maybe we'll fortune for any Uh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My folks didn't really get into games. But I had
two uncles for sure that like really shepherd me through,
Like I had a un that showed me the Sega
Genesis and then another uncle that bought me my first
PS one that he then commandeered after a while to
go play one of those helicopter games Strike I think
it was Urban Strike. Yeah, yeah, all right, shouts out
to you John again sorry for your lost but shouts
out to your mom forgetting you to games. We got
two more emails here. This one comes from Matt from
Scotland High bombers. Can you settle a debate with me
and my partner. We have twelve extra invites to our
wedding and we want to send them to companies for
free shit. Any ideas who might give us some good stuff.
Weddings are expensive. We love freebies, Matt from Scotland, so.
Speaker 3: Hang on, you want to invite the companies to your wedding.
I don't understand how the invite turns into free shit.
What are you describing here?
Speaker 1: I think Matt is under the assumption that if someone
in the company sees this invite, they will think, oh, well,
we can't make it, let's go give them something.
Speaker 3: This is just like the common I'm mister trying to
get free ship from companies and this feels like a stretch.
I don't know if you can pull this off. You
can get the company to give you a free wedding
in my case, but I don't know if you could
get gifts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, esar romantic wedding at Taco Bell Valentine's Day at
a White Castle. We got Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know about that party. Must be like it
might be I'll come to your wedding, but I won't.
I don't want to. Yeah, okay, okay, let's play in
this space a little bit. Guys, can you think of
a way to make it happen? Because I okay, I
think if you go into LinkedIn and you get like
the names of not just like the C suite people
or like maybe the like the regional vice president or something,
get their names, but then find out the names of
their assistance, reach out to them directly and be like, hey,
I was wondering if if like Bob could come to
my wedding.
Speaker 4: We were like, this is this something that you know
would be a dream come true or whatever? Just lie'd
be like, talk to Bob about it. He said, to
reach out to you. Here's the details, Uh you know,
here's here's the amazonkey wish list that that sort of thing,
like maybe try something along those lots and then those
like they might have like like she might have or
they might have like a thing of like oh, if
we get something like this and the guy is busy
just send out this gift package or something like that.
Speaker 2: You might work.
Speaker 5: That's the smart way.
Speaker 3: If you pay for it, I will fly out to
your wedding. I will attend your wedding. I mean that,
and I will bring you a Giant Bomb mug of
your choosing and a copy of the group or on
Blu ray and pieces.
Speaker 2: You will actually do that if you pay for it. Wow.
Speaker 1: After after mat had said weddings are expensive, he's gonna
go pay for your.
Speaker 3: Whole thing, says, will you officiate? Yeah, I'll officiate too.
I'll officiate the wedding for free. Yeah I can do that.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: Sure, again, it's not freethe they're paying to get you
out there, but it's nice gesture esture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan, maybe you can give them the shaker that
you don't want.
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 3: I will also get otes overnight innovator steel shaker.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's terrible. It's bugs, all right.
Speaker 1: Everybody last email the show and normally when an emailer
leaves their last name and I omit it. But I
think a declaration of war has been cast down? What
and this comes from the Regulation Podcast's own Andrew Panton
Dear Giant Bomb Crew on episode n twenty seven, an
emailer wrote in declaring you to be the hot Dog Podcast,
I love you guys, but I cannot allow this without challenge.
Last year we gained the hot dog crown after the
five of us tracked every hot dog we ate across
the year. We even have a wonderful community made a
site backing our data. As a show. We consumed one
hundred and fifty nine hot dogs across twelve months. Until
Giant Bomb can establish a higher year total. Regulation is
undeniably the hot Dog podcast, and that's regulation podcasts.
Speaker 2: Love Andrew Panton.
Speaker 5: We can't fucking compete with that.
Speaker 2: What are you talking?
Speaker 4: I came, I think even if back of our sits
out completely and.
Speaker 2: We got this, I got this. Get show numbers up
boys probably, I think I think they can have this.
One person do it by myself.
Speaker 3: I probably had three to five hot dogs last year.
Speaker 2: Uh exactly, those are rookie number, and I like, I
probably had three to five hot dogs so far this year,
So I'm like, yeah, I can I can step up.
Speaker 1: I think I'm I know so far this year, No,
I know, I've had twelve this you've had twelve.
Speaker 5: You're averaging what the fuck is happening?
Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to take a friend to Costco. No,
I don't have a Costco and I haven't been to
any ball games. Oh, I haven't counted my costcos.
Speaker 3: I'm going to New York, going to New York City
this week, so I could do some damage there.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right from uh starting Lunar New Year,
February seventeenth. Everyone keep track of your hot dogs. Okay,
Jan got me a dog track, Dad?
Speaker 2: Is that giant one from Costco still only count as
one hot Yeah? Yes, yeah, a Kia one. Yeah that's
a key key all right? Oh the twenty inchure, yeah,
the rigging that was a classic. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at this podcast and they got people putting
up some disgusting numbers.
Speaker 1: The Regulation podcast thirty No, no, no, it's not about
a hot dog.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's about friendship and embracing absurdity.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like us.
Speaker 5: Yes, wait a minute, sooner, give me we all listen
to what I just said. Someone on their list has
had two hundred and thirty eight hot dogs in a
calendar year.
Speaker 3: That's not that crazy.
Speaker 2: That's almost a hot dog a day. I guess it's
missing seventy days, but like that's a lot of hot dogs.
It's like every day of war.
Speaker 5: Oh listeners, Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry that someone calling themselves
k Van dev has had three seventy nine.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, is this like since they started tracking?
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I'm gonna bar. I'm not not
your stomach, I know, but it feels like it is.
Geez all right, yeah, these are these.
Speaker 2: Are former Rooster Teeth people and stuff like that. Yeaheah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like Gavin from the SlowMo guys, Jeff Ramsey
or Laser I forget what his last name is now,
but Andrew Panton. The gauntlet has thrown and you know
what I'm is it Can we throw in people outside
of US five, like can Chuck Sean and will add
to those numbers?
Speaker 4: You know, let's have every track and we'll just we'll
just see, we'll just see where we can endorse this.
Speaker 3: We're announce our new premium show with Joey Chestnut. Also, yeah, he's.
Speaker 2: From the Bay Area, all right, he's member for a
long time. We just haven't he's been.
Speaker 1: We just said we could do four at a time,
all right, Oh my god, we don't we want to
be able to, like, you know, see the benefits of
subscriptions and realize these things.
Speaker 2: We did the road trip. We only eat hot dogs. No, okay, so.
Speaker 3: Many opportunities to eat fun regional food.
Speaker 2: I can't that's insane fun regional hot dogs. Also, our
vehicle would be ranked with hot hot dog.
Speaker 3: I have been in contact with the Wiener Mobile in
the past. I don't know if they still work.
Speaker 2: Like I was.
Speaker 3: Gonna drive the winner Rebil in the packs during a
packs wrestling thing. Aaron Tritz told me I wasn't allowed
to do that and also said it was impossible because
it was on the second floor and you can't drive
the windowmobile up and escalator.
Speaker 2: But I didn't have Widowmobile.
Speaker 3: Contacts at one point in my life, so we could
do contact.
Speaker 1: Can someone on our internal discord make a new channel
with everyone and saying hot dog count please?
Speaker 2: No good idea. I'm on it right now. I've a
cool of hot dog water in the Did.
Speaker 5: You hear did you hear why Dan and Jeff Backlar
left Gian Bum?
Speaker 2: Do you hear water was over? It's the hot dog
only rule? What is that?
Speaker 3: When are we racing? Are we racing among each other.
Speaker 2: Co op. Let's call it couch connectivity.
Speaker 3: Who knows how to use that phrase anyway.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's utivity Padres.
Speaker 5: But with okay dogs, I'm gonna take it a step further.
I don't know why you're so fucking proud of yourselves
eating hot dogs.
Speaker 2: What are you so proud of? I don't It's just
the fun.
Speaker 4: It's a fun thing to be proud of, because you
shouldn't be proud like.
Speaker 1: It is there there there is an alternate world out
there where the dynamite of pride.
Speaker 4: I think this is the definition of irony. I'm not sure, though,
I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of it in Hotbogs, I think, But
there is an alternate world out there where the opening
of T M N T two Secret of the Ooze
is not about right and it's just people.
Speaker 2: Yes, you can't take this away, Jan, watch your mouth.
Speaker 1: With or without your help, back Glar, I will make
this the hot dog podcast.
Speaker 2: Look, Jan, I'm so I'm gonna have a hot dog today. Brother?
Speaker 5: Is that is that?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: If I just do a bunch of sour Crown and bronx, I.
Speaker 2: Think it needs to be a you need to delineate like,
but you can count it, but you have to. You
have to make sure you let us know. I need
to tell us if it counts, will eat a broad
because that might be a little too doesn't count? Like, Hi,
what do you mean here? Oh my god? Casing is
a little tough sometimes.
Speaker 1: In the key Boss, thank you Andrew for lighting a
fire within me, trying to find my way for something
else my window rebil emails might be on the Old
Giant Bombs.
Speaker 2: How often do you say people work for.
Speaker 3: Oscar revolving door at the Winnermobile factory.
Speaker 5: I heard you stay there for a while.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be a stepic stone of people's career paths
to like, I don't know, Jimmy Johnson, all.
Speaker 1: Right, gag that about doesn't emails? Send your emails to
bombcasta Giant bomb dot com. You know what, it's not
just us that has made this a hot dog podcast.
Speaker 2: You know everywhere I go it's hot glasies in stereo.
Speaker 5: I can't escape from.
Speaker 1: We used to sell a shirt with Patrick dressed up
as a hot dog.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know it's not just you've it's.
Speaker 4: The Old Giant Bomb. Birthday President is sixteen playing hot dogs.
Speaker 5: So yeah, there's a precedent.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, fantastic Mike Manatti, hit me with any
YouTube super chats if we got any we do.
Speaker 2: Zach Moe says Dan is gonna turn into the lawnmower
Man via Virtual Boy, speaking of I want to play
that weird Sega Genesis lawnmower Man video games. Yeah I
do too. Yeah. Strummer Bro says we've seen a lot
of games adapted to movie slash TV shows recently. Any
films or shows or books you'd like to see turned
into a game a la John Wick Commando, So.
Speaker 3: Good Wife, Commando, Commando, Rogue Light playing his Colonel down Matrix, yeah'd.
Speaker 2: Be awesome, vert fun. But the Predator movies, Oh yeah,
Oh I see Predator. Okay, that'd be pretty good. Yeah, gosh,
we had like we had some you know, aliens predator games.
Has there ever been like a good just Predator game.
I don't think so any one was?
Speaker 4: There are some well who will tell you that that
Predator asymmetrical online multiplayer game is.
Speaker 3: That Hunting Ground or something? What was the one on
PS two It was Predator, Predator, Predators Concrete or something
with the PS two one. There's like a third person. Yeah, yeah,
it's not great.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, uh MiG Z says uh. Thebacclar is three
D printing key caps the next hot thing.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so, because a very specific kind
of plastic. Right yeah, they're usually a B S. I
know you can print a B S, but there is
a level of like, you know, finesse that a cap,
a real keyboard key cap has that, Like, I just
don't think you're getting out of a three D printer.
I printed a couple of those like key cap fidget
things for for DIB, and we we had to use
a regular key cap because the ones that we've kept
three D printing with like crack, Yes, you can do it,
but it's it's not the next top.
Speaker 2: Thing, right, It's it's just not worth it, right because
you're going just be able to get the better quality
like guaranteed thing from someone a warranty and ship like
yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: And the way they print on the real key caps
with like either it's like what are the sublimation and
you know double shot and all that stuff. Like the
printing technology is so much better and crisper, it's just
it's not there just yet.
Speaker 2: Tricky Lef says, wanted to put super Battle Golf on
your radar if it isn't already eight player friends slop
golf with items like guns, mines, and orbital lasers. Okay,
well that sounds good battle golf. Let's look at that.
Mixy says m n. I think that means me somehow.
Aren't you supposed to be Vaca in Disneyland? Uh? No,
I came back from Orlando and I wasn't in Disney World.
I was in Disney Springs. I guess for a moment
if you want to count that. But it was a
long weekend. I'm back. Uh also says I'm sad there's
no Blike Club this week. I'm spared. Boy, do I
need just one week break? Boy, I'm so worried. Let's
shoot it today. Let's shoot it today. But he hasn't
and we can't anyway, there's no that's actually we had
a one meeting today. We could do it. Do it today.
We can't. Actually we can't. Absolutely not. I think I
need to be there. Do you want it today? What
do you want for your Delight Club? Uh? Was there
that demo for that game? That's kind of like if
you want to do that. Oh, there's the mythologies game
that it just like, we will check that out and
if that runs, you can just wash we play over
what Oh sure, sure yeah, Chat really wants it today.
Yeah there's literally it's not actually any time to do that.
It's two hours and meeting. I want to do it
the record show. Yeah yeah, great zombie porn, says My
favorite Mic is British Mike def Trogle. Yeah, what's your
favorite Mike Era or Faces of Minati bank robber Mike
of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh bank robber Mike with Kyla would go
incredibly chaotic.
Speaker 2: In our creators Jesus Christ, I love the same people
are like, you need to punish Dan Reker real horror
and be whatever. Like also, we want to see you
suffer today. I mean they want to see everyone on
Black Clubs suffer because.
Speaker 3: That's not the point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's been the point. It feels like it.
Real Rocket says, who won the crew would do their
dad job the best. Dan is a supposed to worker,
Backler is a taxi medallion broker. Mike is a doctor.
I'm not sure what grever Jan's fathers do, but say
to them, I definitely can't be a doctor. There's a
lot yet to learn about doing that.
Speaker 3: And I don't mean my dad hasn't worked since twenty fifteen,
so I think I could do what he does now. Well,
I guess he sells baseball base so I could. I
could figure that out.
Speaker 2: My dad sells plastics. I don't know, dad, Yeah, I
don't know, Like, yeah, I don't know. He's retiring now.
I could do that very easily. Yeah, my dad was
a busterer for several years. I could do that all right, then,
I don't. I still think Dan could probably for yeah,
do his father's job. The best was going to go
with it. Big Fresh says back. Are you watch Shorsy?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm a I'm a big fan. I think
I think I still like Letter Kenny more than Shory.
But Suresey has surprised me. I thought season it was
the season three of Shoresy was like surprisingly really well
written and kind of like very impactful in a in
a really big way I've not seen. I have to finish.
I think I have to finish four and five, but
those are they're only like, you know, five or six
episode seasons. Yeah, that's great. I'm a I'm a huge fan.
Hell ya.
Speaker 2: Next up is Andrew Panton and says, I'm sitting cozy
on this throne. I think it's referring to his hot
dog thrown. Oh we're coming for you. You can have it.
They ten hot dogs a day for fifteen days, and
you already win. Think about like that, everybody. I'm going
to text and backlar every time I have a hot dog.
Speaker 5: That's what I do to Yeah, that's actually fine. I
have no problem with that.
Speaker 1: Great man training for a hot training, training for a
hot dog, training for a marathon, and also try to
eat the most hot.
Speaker 2: Protein protein you know there.
Speaker 3: You know some of those gel packs and stuff you
put in your running belt for the long run days,
they're so cylindrical.
Speaker 2: I bet it.
Speaker 3: And I've got like one of those zipper belts. I
slide like six hot dogs into that belt.
Speaker 2: Oh like a band of the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay, uh.
Speaker 2: Oh go ahead, back art. Do you want to say something.
Speaker 5: No, I'm trying to like really unpack the whole thing.
I also think it's like they're just like fun little
like like a little Wiener pink Wiener floppy things, And
I think that like leans into the whole thing as well, like, oh,
that's just a funny looking food product.
Speaker 2: Anyway. I'm just trying to.
Speaker 5: Understand the psychology of it all, because you can all
like look beyond all of these you know, on its
face disgusting, inherently thing inherently disgusting things, and still be
okay with it. Trying to understand it is what I think.
Speaker 2: I think a big part of it is this reaction
right here back, the fact that normal by it, that
it's like, yeah, man, I'm gonna get a bunch of
them crazy, fair enough enough. Zombie point says, if I
ven venmo jan money, can you use it on hot dogs?
Don't venmo me money please? That's what Migsy says. Grub.
Would Blizzard ever bring back Blackborn? Hey, Migsy, does Grub
look like the Blizzard guy around here? Does Jeff Grubb
know that Blizzard thought about putting John Blackthorn whatever his
name is, and here's the storm then it didn't happen?
Do you think he knows that? I didn't know that.
Oh but no, Mike's Mike's definitely the Blizzard guy. I'm Mike.
What's happening with Blackthorn and I gotta bring Blackthorn back. No,
they're not gonna bring blackfrn.
Speaker 4: Probably they'll they'll probably like re release it again and
again like he use in that Arcade Classics collection or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's it's it's fun. I mean, they're
probably gonna bring three thirty Dwarves back before they bring
Blackthorn back. I don't think they're gonna do that either.
So yeah, I don't think it's that. Yeah, rock and
roll racing, they'll they'll bring that back. Uh well, now
because that would be a nightmare because they had to
they had to pay for those rights for those songs before,
and now it's gonna be hell because you actually get
to do It'll just be a mode in one of
their games. Ye have a rock and Roll racing Overwatch night.
And then Andrew Panton's back with with the with the
with the generous one here saying some starter hot dogs
are even Broughts on me, so that everybody first first
dogs on Andrew. All right, all right, boys, that about
does well, Mike?
Speaker 1: Is that it for super Jets, that is effected for
super Jets, thick everybody, Thank you Mike Minati for reading
them or was what we got? Okay, well we got
going on the rest of this week. We didn't get
time to plan out yesterday because of the holiday, but
we kind of got stuff loosely plotted out. No blight
club tomorrow because of delight appointments, so we'll have a
d light club. Maybe we'll just sit and eat hot
dogs for two hours, delightful.
Speaker 3: If I see you in a discorder or something, I
will I will discord in form New York City with
a hot dog in my hand.
Speaker 1: Oh gee, please please do games. Morning's popping off Wednesday,
Thursday Friday, right good, that's right. Voicemail Dump Truck has
now moved to an earlier time, folks. We are now
up an hour, so ten am Pacific one pm Eastern time.
I believe is the new times for that, because this
Thursday we're starting a new premium series with our own
Abby Russell, Mary Me Tomo Datcci. That's right, folks, it
will be. We'll be streaming it fine, but then we're
gonna eighty six the archive and the VOD will live
on for premium members. What else we got going on
upf We have yet to decide, But who knows what
it could be. Anything is possible, anything can happen. Maybe
we'll just make hot dogs who knows, I don't know,
hot dog stream hot dog stream folks. Anything else that
I forgot that is popping off on the website.
Speaker 3: No, Well, lots of coverage your new games will certainly
this is the run more with Millionaire. Obviously, travel and
stuff has made it difficult here, but we're excited to
do more and you will see more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we might. We might try to record one of those.
Speaker 1: We'll see, we shall see. Also, if you haven't checked
out the first episode of Nine Lives of misterstopa Fleas,
as Mike pointed out earlier, I suggest you go check
that out. I think the show, which was supposed to
be Chuck's a little outlet to de stress from work,
is now killing him.
Speaker 2: So that's who's that. That's the content creator's curse, Like
that's how it goes. Yeah, exactly, just sabotaging him, make
him put command lines into trying to reprogram the game
on the fly. Oh my god, he's part of the show.
And I like how offended on I got to see
myself peak. Why would you play Skyrim and not play
around with the console command, Are you child? Never? It's
already basically for babies. It's so easy. We gotta do
console commands. We have to make that horse big. You
gotta have big horse, your child man. A horse is big.
Now I'm happy. That about does it.
Speaker 1: For this week's episode of The Giant Podcast, Hey, I
don't know, Go like and subscribe.
Speaker 2: Go rate the podcast higher than metroid Prime.
Speaker 1: Floor, or at least the same review score across podcast platforms.
Speaker 2: He's but Jeff, He's been Jeff's and Mike eat and
Dan I've been channing. Shouts out to Sean for editing
the show.
Speaker 1: Love you Sean, shouts out for Chuck, shots out to Will, Shouts.
Speaker 2: Out to you at her We love you.
Speaker 5: We'll see next week.
Speaker 2: We're not an episode of the GiB im get cood?
Did I really say