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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Alien Retrospective,

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this time Alien versus Predator requiem. I'm the clown Prince

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of Trust Trust No, I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: I'm the can't see shit kirkln Patzer. I'm the sausage

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lover Dylan Muss.

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Speaker 3: I'm the abomination Taylor Field.

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Speaker 1: Between Dylan's line and Taylor's nickname, like that is almost

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Gonda sum up some thoughts like gout of this movie,

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but here we are. You should go back last week.

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I doubt you're listening to a VP two instead of

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just the first one this one, but you should definitely

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go back because last week was a contested episode on

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many things, but a fun cast nonethelast. This is the

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uh is it for the alien movies that take place

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in the in the nothing odd? I guess just the

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two thousands after this next week. If you're on Patreon,

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you could have got this already weeks ago. And when

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you're listening this to you begin this, you get them

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both right now. Uh. Prometheus and Covenant is next for

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the movie side, so that's gonna be ending us off.

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And then if you're listening to these and you go Hey,

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what do you think about Predator? Just look, I think

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they're still in the feed for that, if not joined Patron,

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because everything's there so you can go do that. But

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we did all those and then the last few ones

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we're gonna be doing some Alien Versus or some Alien

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Predator Marvel comics, and then also Alien Isolation, so there's

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still tons of alien stuff coming out, and then of

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course wrong Less on the nineteenth. So yeah, we're gonna

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near and near to the end of our journey here,

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so you know, let's start on a let's start. I

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want to actually start with Kirklan Patzer because he was

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such a big fan. I mean, he's still got like

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a big score because I know Taylor's probably big family

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know where he is. I think people might know general

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for Sidney Ram and Dylan are. But like with Kirkland

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saying big fan, but he had seen I think what

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ten minutes of two and you turn it off or

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something when you were a young we.

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Speaker 4: Lad I got further than I thought based on where Yeah,

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just watching through this time but yeah, yeah too, not

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too far.

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Speaker 1: So you made it through the whole time this time.

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What were your thoughts on a VP record which came out.

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What was this seven the year before The Dark Knight

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and they're making this type of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Love the Dark Knight is just like our Battle of

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Yavin or something before or after Dark Knight. Yeah, this

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was an interesting one, much anticipated for myself because, as

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Travis laid out, like, I had only seen portions of it,

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and I'm I'm a massive fan of a VP. So

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it's it's kind of curious why I would never go

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back and watch this, but no, saved it for the

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retro and what a ride this movie was. I I

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definitely had some fun watching it. But it's crazy how

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similar in some ways this is to the first one,

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mostly like with the characters and just some of the

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dialogue and like just really badly written characters. I feel

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like part of me the biggest thing between the two

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is a big do some nostalgia, and man, I have

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zero nostalgia for this movie, and what a change in

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just like enjoyment overall for the flex. So yeah, I'm

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not a big fan of this movie in general. I

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feel like there's a lot of shit in here, Like literally,

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my god, what terrible characters and just side characters. If

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you get interested, it's like, fortunately it was mostly on the

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comical line of like so bad it's it's it's still comedic.

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this adventure, if you want to call it that. But yeah,

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I don't know, Like I still think there is some

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things that I would take from it that I like,

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but for the most part, it's just it's not a

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whole lot that I'm really seeking out for my alien

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versus Predator adventures. I would definitely rather the first one

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for that setting. I just like the isolated setting a

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lot more. I feel like this one. There's a lot

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like a big moment because I had seen the first

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movie so many times and it's like that's it, Like

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that's the hybrid right there they show you at the

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end of the movie, and I'd never like seen it

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other than I guess the early portion of this movie.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, mister Muss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've never seen this movie, although I think

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bit familiar. Now, I don't know, like, do other Predator

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movies take place in like forested areas and stuff. I'm

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sure they do, right, Yeah, that's the second one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

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but I've seen like a bit of these forested scenes.

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Speaker 5: Those look for me for some reason.

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Speaker 1: I would say to it. Also, you said, you said

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other than they except like you're saying, all of them

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but it goes to the voice, but there's a lot

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Speaker 3: Half and half, i'd give it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: So but anyway, I truly went to this not really

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annoying anything in terms of story and character and whatnot.

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this doing all these movies back to back. I feel

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like I'm kind of desensitized or like burnt out on

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just like the idea of an alien killing someone, and

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this movie just does so much of like, Okay, I've

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seen this before, I've seen this over and over again,

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and so maybe it's just because of the binge nature

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of going through all these movies. Yeah, hopefully I believe

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in Fede to make it kind of new and fresh again.

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had no positive or really even super strongly negative emotions

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other than like, oh yeah, this movie has a really

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bad writing, which fun fact, same writer as Wave of Water,

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just saying just saying really, but yeah, like the other

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than some of those things and the character stuff that's like, Okay,

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which I think is find a lot of these movies

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do that. They kind of try and blend the line,

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but I think they just end up being action movies instead.

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like close to a city, people going out to like

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hunt for trying to find these missing people, and that

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the city, and then I have sequences there. It's an

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the top of the hospital feels very left for dead

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Speaker 5: Of this movie absolutely sucks. It's so bad.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I found this one a lot less fun

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really interesting how the first one led to a lot

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of really great discussions, at least for me, like in

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terms of learning more about the Predator and what they're

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the Predators like barely in this movie and it just

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kind of takes a back seat and doesn't really do

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anything that interesting. And I don't feel like I have

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many fun lore questions like I did last time.

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Speaker 5: So I just feel like.

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Speaker 2: The movie in general doesn't really inspire a lot of

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creativity in that way. So yeah, I did not have

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a good time with this. I'll never watch this movie again.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple interesting things, and I actually think the

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special effects cgi the alien like all look great this movie,

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but that's maybe the only thing I can say is

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great about it.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's how I'm feeling on this.

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Speaker 1: One interesting poll there at the writer they are done,

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because I was looking at it as a guy, the

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guy named Shane where is Itno Solerno? Very odd career

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and then he wrote Ghost recon Wildlands, and then he

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Speaker 2: Theme of this these recordings that we're doing tonight because yeah,

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some of the writers they pick for these are very

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strange choices.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like this guy must have something on James Cameron

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because it makes no sense that goes from av P

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and twenty twenty two he writes three things and none

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that's not like, oh hero, this world, this, and then

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he wrote like I don't know, like the Gaull like

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how he got on to Avatar. That's very I.

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but if anyone wants to go back into a review,

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Speaker 5: Ripping the writing in that movie.

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Speaker 1: God, this tracks. He's a writer in Gears of War

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was like, you could do Gears of War. And then

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so he's writing Avatar five but not three or four?

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Speaker 5: Know, like some real Star Wars stuff.

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Speaker 1: What is happening? And my last note, because he was

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also a producer and his producer Chris, those make any

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more sense now they really don't at this interesting career.

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I wonder what's going on there. But uh yeah, I

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try and be more PUZZI us negative. That was not

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me that last review. I definitely just like, I think

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that broke open all the gates for all this stuff.

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Like you check out my letter box, I don't really

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do anything too negative. I just like, oh, just keep

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it there, because I know making movies are hard, especially

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after doing just Eve one on a small scale, right,

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this is about the same, if not like a little worse.

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it spoils my ranking, so you know, my bottom one

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and two unless wrong list is just like the biggest

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mishap of ever and we still got come to the ghost,

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so you never know. But yeah, this, uh, I I

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opposite where I enjoy the preda alien. I like that

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trivia that some people really pissed about the way it

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like reproduces and everything. I'm not mad about that because

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delivered on that, and that was like about it. And

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for going for it, whether it's something really dark or

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something I'm like, oh, this always happens in movies. I

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wish they did this, and they actually did it here,

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and I was like, oh, I really like that. So

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but that's only two scenes, like two scenes out of

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an hour forty long movie. So that was about it.

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The characters are even worser where they're not even exposition

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this time, they're plot synopsis. It's like, you know, woman

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returns from war to child, someone dies, that guy likes girl,

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this person dies, blah blah blah. This person dies uncle

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or grandfather and son go grandson goal hiking, they die.

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characters are, and then one of them dies, and then

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they meet it with the group, and it's it's odd

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because we don't I feel like, we don't spend that

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much time with the prey or and alien, and it's

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when we do, it's fucking super dark. And sometimes this

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the whole like Raccoon thing of like I had the

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TV and the cineatographer said this was a choice because

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they felt whoever did the first movie it was too bright.

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I don't know, man, like I didn't. I didn't love

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the action in that movie, the choreography, but the cinematography

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at least I could see stuff here. There's so much

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was like, they love that rain machine. So I didn't

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like that. Hated all these characters. I agreed, Dylan. I

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hated the way it ended. For the most part. There's

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one thing I really like and then I don't know,

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and I guess I just don't like seeing them in

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this setting. I think that was something that really got me. Like,

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not that I worry at all, because Noah Hawley's I

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love Legion, He's doing that show. It's called Alien Earth,

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Xeno Merse, Zeno Mersey, you know, Morse on Earth and

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everything like that. But I just I know Predator has,

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but I just don't like them in I think maybe

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even talked about it that in the Predator where I

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just other than Predator too, I don't like them in

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suburban I like them in the city. Just something feels

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off about it. It just there's a lot of things

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that don't track and don't work, whether it's the amount

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of security or the amount of like enforces and swat

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versus maybe them just being dumb. I don't know. I

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just not a fan. And again I say it's even

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worse than the first one that the person who made

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this one really again likes Predator because this one, the

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alien looks weak as like especially there's one scene that's

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in the sewer with Alien like one v or Predator

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one three one V. Three's aliens and then also get

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some damage on the pred Alien, and it's like this

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this Predator is like top tier. He is a general

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elite because he's just destroying these things. And again there's

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like random people who work at the gas station that

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can like take on the alien they're stabbing in the hands,

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like ah, Like it's just yeah, not not great. So

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I don't have much to say. I will never watch

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this again by choice for some reason if my kids

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want to watch this one, but I don't think that's

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ever gonna happen. I don't think we'll get that far

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in the franchise. So yeah, yeah, I'm like, I'm I

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would like there to be a third one because I

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think there's potential for this somehow, right.

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Speaker 5: I think he's the right director for something like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I get probably not Fatty because they'd be like,

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I'm not the crossover guy. I feel like you gotta

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find like this Day and Age is Michael Bay, like

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someone like that who like can make stuff dumb enough

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but still is enough, Like because I think medical Bay's

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movie is also like look good and he's big action, so.

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Speaker 3: He's still directing, so let's get him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna do that, but.

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Speaker 5: Maybe, ye, James wand he could he could do something good.

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Speaker 1: James not Christopher.

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Speaker 5: And like and action.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was gonna go David Leech. But then

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I'm like, no, he doesn't have the horror Shaws, but

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he would have that kinetic energy. He'd make likable characters

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like I think he'd be better like an Aliens two vibe. Yeah,

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but then I get too funny.

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Speaker 5: Right, I don't think I want this to be funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was just trying to think of like

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a gun for hire. So yeah, that's that's a good question.

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James Gott honestly would not be an off but something

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he doesn't make it too funny and make it too

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some He's gonna introduce like some little kid predator that's

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gonna be funny. And you're like, oh, why why is

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Sean Gun here.

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Speaker 5: And Sean Guns doing these?

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, I don't know, you know, I'll just like

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an easy punted answer. It's like whoever did pray? Oh God,

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who did pray? Because that simpers the ten Cloe for Lane,

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I can't remember their name.

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Speaker 4: But like, honestly, like Dan Truck, Dan.

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Speaker 1: Tracktenberg, Yeah, just punted him. Pray to me is like

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a good that feels like a good temperature for what

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you want as honest, he's a fan of Alien. But oh,

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you know what, Neil Blom can't. We're gonna tell a

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lot about the Alien Covenant. Give him his chance, you know,

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and you know what, do the Legacy sequel. Get some

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Gorny back, make her We finally have the fall hero

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that's a human. Get her back. She's dealing with the

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alien by this time, the Predator too, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, getting Arnold back.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Arnold and Sigg's got a team up. Yes, that's

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what we were going against each other exactly. That's how

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it starts, right, there's some big fights. Got yeah, faction Deerfield,

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your floor, the floor is yours.

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Speaker 3: I just I appreciate that we are talking about this movie.

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You know, you asked me nine years ago if we

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would ever get around to doing it. I would have

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said yes. But here we are nine years later.

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Speaker 1: Uh what happened?

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 1: A you're just saying it wasn't soon enough for you?

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Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I wish it was sooner than later, but here

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we are. Uh, this movie just hits so many rite

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nostalgic notes for me. I remember going through that early

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high school age and again like two and seven. That

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was end of elementary school early high school for me,

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and so I was at a time where I was

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constantly googling a.

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Speaker 1: Young man's life. Your body starts to change, you know what,

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Ben says.

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Speaker 3: I was on the hunt for sequels. I needed to

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see of these great movies that I like to see

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when these sequels are coming out, So the nineties, the

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role on Emirate Guns of the film, I needed to

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see a sequel for that that never happened. But these

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are the movies. I was always googling, like what's the

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status on these projects? And I remember finally getting images

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that dropped for Alien Versus Predator Requiem and I could

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not believe it. And I remember being in grade eight

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sharing all my high school friends like, all, look at

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this post the photos all over my social media. I

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was just like my profile pictures changed to the Predator

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from this movie Wolf is his name? Fucking out? Like ecstatic.

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I was blown away. And I remember I got my

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parents to take me to see it because it was

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R rated. I needed bone on my parents to go

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with me, and so parents came to see which one

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I think it was my dad, My dad, he's he's

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a big supporter of these kind of films with me

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and my big sequel Hunter, Big sequel Hunter Yet so

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I remember watching the theaters. Oh it was a good time,

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and I remember just waiting for it to drop and

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on DVD and I picked up the unrated like Benee

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Special Edition. I remember this is when movies are rated

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R physical copies. You need to have someone who is

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eighteen at least to buy the movie with you. So

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again it called my dad out and helped me hook

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me up got the movie and I was just so

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happy to have this to my collection. This film. I

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don't really watch it the unextended like the shortened version,

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the theatrical version, because I remember watching in theaters and think, okay,

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there's a couple of scenes that I don't fully understand.

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And I appreciate the extended version because you get really

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only one scene that kind of deep dives a little

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bit more, just kind of fills in the gap of

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One main question I had was that how do you

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have one predatorship with the big chieftain on there, and

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like the hundreds of predators and smaller ships, this massive

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capital ship, how do you have one pread alien just

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sabotage it. Well, the thing is. The thing is this

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whole extended scene shows this big capital ship flying away

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from Earth. It flies past Saturn and then you see

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a smaller detach and flies back to Earth to do scouting,

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and that's the ship that has the predator pred alien

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on and that cleared up all the air forms. Like,

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oh well, that totally makes sense because I just thought, like,

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where's the thousands of predators invading Earth now with these

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like aliens, Like That's what I'd like to see. But

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I digress. This movie getting to see these glimpses of

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just expanded predator technology, getting to see this cleanup crew

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of like one loan predator just go back to Earth

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to deal with this, and things starting to get exponentially

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worse and out of hand. I really really enjoyed that.

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I think it's great. I just I love this predator

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so much. He's so cool getting the new weaponry, like

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his power gauntlet that in his brass knuckle that increases strength,

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or blasting the cement. You get his whip, he's got

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this blue eracing ooze stuff. You got the Shurricans back,

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the two plasma casters as a little little kiddo. Seeing

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this shit, I was like, Oh, this is the greatest

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fucking thing I've ever seen. It was fucking amazing.

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Speaker 1: Really coming into man during this movie.

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Speaker 3: Oh, when he's in the Sewers, like, there's so many

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great scenes in the Sewers. He's throwing his ship up

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on the walls, He's throwing his lasers to new attack.

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Speaker 1: Computers like confuse it with my scent, will catch me.

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Speaker 3: But he's throwing at the laser devices on the walls.

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Like there's there's so many awesome scenes in this movie

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that I really like, including the pread or home World

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is fucking sick. I wish we got to expand more

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on that in this movie or another projects too, because

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that's just it. That's a huge thing that in any

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other movies you see a game preserve like another hunting

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planet that other Preaders use, but you never see this

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planet ever again, which is quite a shame. I hate that.

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Speaker 2: But do you think they're just sorry to ask questions

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don't go for all, But do they have multiple planets

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that they've colonized for themselves, do you think or is

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it just kind of the one mother planet and then

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they have like they control their areas where they go

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to Earth and you know, go hunting and stuff.

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Speaker 3: But I think in the comics they probably do. I

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can't really answer that, but I know I can say

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that they do have access to multiple planets and they

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do own multiple planets. So yeah, but man, this movie

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it's just I watch it multiple times like a year.

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I feel like I will definitely rewatch this again before

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the year is out, because I just love this movie.

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It's such a wild time and I get so many

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different things, Like you get them in the forest, you

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get some space stuff going on, you get in the

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city too. I love that it's in like everyday Joe

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Blow like city life, and it's just it's crazy to

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see these two different species in that setting when we've

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only seen them like Aliens. We've seen it so so

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many times exclusively only in space Predators we've seen it. Yeah,

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and they like the main city like skyscraper stuff like that,

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and in the jungles and everything, but onto this scale

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and covering so much ground in a city, going from

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like the school all with the hot hospital and getting

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to really see how the situation is unfolding is absolutely crazy,

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and it just has this freakish tone in the back

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of my mind where you think that when the aliens

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are starting to break out and even though they're only

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in the sewers, life is still going on. Though the

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aliens start to break out, and then things are going

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crazy that cities generators are going down and society is

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still going on, like things are starting to fall apart,

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but things are still progressively moving at the same time.

475
00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:32,160
It's just weird to think that, like being in that

476
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:37,000
situation and not knowing, Like, man, there's these parasitic aliens

477
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,519
that are basically spreading throughout the town, killing and pregnating everyone,

478
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,519
and you just don't know that it's game over yet.

479
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,680
It just is a really freaky kind of overarching vibe.

480
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,000
It's kind of I get the same thing when I

481
00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:52,160
watch Resident Evil. I can't remember the name of the

482
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,960
second one. It's when it's After My Life.

483
00:22:57,279 --> 00:22:57,839
Speaker 5: I can't remember.

484
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,559
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's Boca Lips.

485
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Villain has a subtitle those ones pretty much.

486
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,799
Speaker 3: It's that that arc overarking feeling where the town everyone

487
00:23:08,839 --> 00:23:10,680
in reckon. So he's continuing on and there's oh, the

488
00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:12,440
vault opened up and the zombies are coming and the

489
00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:14,480
people trying to get out. It's just that feeling just

490
00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:17,559
terrifies me. So this movie has that, and yeah, it

491
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,880
just I love I love this movie. I can't wait

492
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,519
to get more into like the Finer Things. I fully

493
00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:25,279
prepare myself for a lot of the hate because I

494
00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:27,519
know it's definitely not everyone's cup of tea. The darkness

495
00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:30,240
does bother me, but it's something I can overlook.

496
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,319
Speaker 1: It's hard to overlook it, you know.

497
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: It's hard to overlook it.

498
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: Can look at it, you know. I love to overlook

499
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,680
the darkness, like, oh there is there is.

500
00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 3: A predator via the pred alien.

501
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: Though, I forget where you Taylor, or you in that

502
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,119
camp because I've seen it's a big divide in the

503
00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:50,720
alien preader community.

504
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,079
Speaker 3: I think to me, it always made sense, like okay,

505
00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:56,400
we're gonna get a you know, when I was young,

506
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,440
I knew, Okay, the alien takes this slight percentage of

507
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,279
its host. We saw that with Alien three, We saw

508
00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:02,200
that with how it does with humans. And so even

509
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,240
in the games there are they're pread aliens and adding

510
00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:08,759
twenty tens AVP, there is a huge final boss against

511
00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:11,960
the pread alien you had to fight, and that's been

512
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,319
put into other forms as well, so I didn't mind

513
00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:17,680
it at all. I like that this looked different because

514
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,839
it had more of like a queen aesthetic too. But

515
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,200
like the the the dreadlocks that it has, that's that

516
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,000
fits with other pred aliens that I've seen in other mediums.

517
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,279
But the fact that it reproduces through its second mouth

518
00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:34,680
that definitely grosses me out. And yeah, the hospital close

519
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:37,119
up scene, I so cringe when I watch that because

520
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,400
it's just fucking like, oh, that's gross to watch. But

521
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,720
there's extended scenes too where you see it doing that

522
00:24:43,799 --> 00:24:49,200
earlier on like the girl in the cafe and uh, yeah,

523
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,880
I'll point out other there's one more extended scene, but

524
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,799
I'll point that out later.

525
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have two follow ups there. One the statement

526
00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:57,240
that one's a question down, so let me do the

527
00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:00,039
same at first, that that's where it's odd because the

528
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,079
the movie is an action kind of turn your brain

529
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,880
off movie. But then for me, that is a scene

530
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,839
that like because they just they just go for it.

531
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,599
You and most of those movies like oh there's the

532
00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:11,039
pregnant lady, They're gonna tease it nothing, then something's gonna

533
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:14,200
happen distracted, but then the fucking you know nurse comes

534
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,799
back and know that whole wing is just filled now

535
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:22,039
with pregnant ladies now in pregnant with aliens. I'm assuming

536
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:24,559
their children are not making it. And it's just like

537
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:28,319
that's where it's like that feels something more of classic

538
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,839
Alien where it's disturbing, it sticks with you, but it

539
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,480
doesn't almost fit in this movie. It just almost uses

540
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:35,160
kind of like a gag of like, oh, we did this.

541
00:25:35,319 --> 00:25:37,599
But I appreciate them trying to take some sort of

542
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:40,200
like swing. I guess I wish the whole movie was

543
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,480
filled with more imagery of that, like oh my god,

544
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:45,519
like almost a stomach turning of like cheese the wives.

545
00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:47,480
But it's that's not like the movie. It's just like

546
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,000
a scene there. But I did like it. And yeah,

547
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,559
the impregnation through the mouth is not not the way

548
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:54,480
you want to go, you know.

549
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:56,559
Speaker 2: But I mean I found this by far the most

550
00:25:56,559 --> 00:26:00,720
brutal UH movie and all of these we've gone through

551
00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:03,799
in this retrospective here, like even from the very beginning,

552
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,880
like a kid getting impregnated and dying first like five

553
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,799
minutes is like whoa, okay, shocked in for it. All

554
00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:13,519
the people in the sewers like all that is very disgusting. Definitely,

555
00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:17,440
the hospital scene is really nasty too. But yeah, I

556
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,880
feel like a lot of the kills in these movies

557
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,960
are almost like off screen, Like you see the alien

558
00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:25,480
enter a room with someone and they're about to strike,

559
00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:27,759
and then they like cut away and then someone will find.

560
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:28,279
Speaker 5: Their remains, you know.

561
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 2: Often I was maybe done a lot more in the

562
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,000
earlier movies so they didn't have to animate all these

563
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,079
things to figure out how to make them look good

564
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,240
when they didn't have the CGI to do it. But

565
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:40,559
that's where like I think this movie, yeah, visually looks

566
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:43,279
really good on the CGI. The darkness, yes it's there,

567
00:26:43,319 --> 00:26:46,279
but that also helps them to kind of get away

568
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:49,519
with maybe what would have otherwise been lesser CGI, I suppose.

569
00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:52,759
But yeah, this movie is absolutely brutal and the most

570
00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:54,960
r rated out of anything so far.

571
00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:55,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

572
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 3: I just want to shut out because you mentioned that

573
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,000
beginning scene. Yeah, the kid, we have never seen that before.

574
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:01,920
For for a kid to get killed off like this

575
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,200
in this franchise, which is it's wild, But I just

576
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,279
want to I gotta shut out the dad because he's

577
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:11,839
got a bolt action semi automatic hunting rifle. He's not

578
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,319
even aiming down sites and he shoots a face hugger

579
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:16,799
and takes it out. He loses an arm, but that's

580
00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:20,359
a fucking good shot. It's yeah, the hit fire shot.

581
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, dropping with you as you're saying, well.

582
00:27:24,039 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: I mean he I think you know, he's not gonna

583
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,000
be in the final circle, but he's definitely gonna do

584
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:28,720
some damage.

585
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 4: I kills.

586
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: My second fault was dyl where are you on the

587
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,240
preda alien? Kirkland? Not so much? You know, we're a

588
00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:40,400
more friend. Do you like the rendition or whatnot?

589
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 5: Because yeah, cool, I think it's a fun idea.

590
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: But I I just feel like in this movie, like

591
00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:48,240
it didn't act any different than an alien would, but

592
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,079
he was just like a visual difference where I think

593
00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:52,680
it could have been interesting if it had like a

594
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,519
bigger brain in a way, because predators are clearly very

595
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:59,960
smart creatures. And that's why how they're just killing alien

596
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,039
by the hundreds or you know, taking all the ones

597
00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:03,680
out in the sewer or like three v one, four

598
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,920
to one, five v one taking out you know, and

599
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,680
we saw like in the original a VP killing a

600
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,519
lot more at a given time. So I feel like

601
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:12,119
they're just such a smart creature that it was weird

602
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,880
to me or maybe a little underwhelming that it didn't

603
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,839
really act any differently. And maybe if I watched movie

604
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,279
over and over, i'd find little subtle differences. But I

605
00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:22,640
almost forgot that was happening, because once again, the movie's

606
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:22,960
so dark.

607
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 5: It's like, is that an alien or is that the

608
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:25,519
pread alien?

609
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,799
Speaker 1: That's fair, and then you could have given like colored

610
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:29,480
it a little bit different or something that made a

611
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,200
bit more like I don't want to say the Predator

612
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:34,559
is great, what colors are predators?

613
00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:34,799
Speaker 6: More?

614
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: Like?

615
00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: Think of that weird.

616
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: Yellow kind of like yellowish screen, and.

617
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: That's tough because predator or aliens kind of grease. So

618
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,480
maybe they just should have made like a lighter green

619
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:43,359
to make it stand.

620
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,799
Speaker 3: They tried, though, like but it's very limited in the

621
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:48,799
scene because actor in the suit the predator would go

622
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,079
in his his alternate vision and the pred alien would

623
00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:53,319
pop up his yellow and then regular aliens would be green.

624
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:57,000
So that they tried with that, but that's using his thermal, right.

625
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're we're not on thermal all the time, right. Yeah,

626
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,039
Another way I would like to see this movie because I.

627
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 5: Could have saw what was going on.

628
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,519
Speaker 1: Oh, I can see everything this movie now. But no,

629
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,359
that's a good point if it would have been a

630
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,720
little bit, because you're right, I think, other than the reproducing,

631
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:14,680
it is just a alien with a prayer. So I

632
00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:16,039
like the look. But you make a good point that

633
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:18,920
it could have been cool to do, even to have

634
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,519
an alien act more like a predator, you know. But

635
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:24,759
another scene that I didn't put in the trivia, but

636
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,880
seeing that, I guess here lots of fans really really

637
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,119
didn't like was that the predalien allowed the predator to

638
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,519
take off its armor everything and get ready for the battle.

639
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:34,400
People had a big problem with that scene.

640
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, I can I can see why, but it's just,

641
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,160
you know, predators doing predator stuff.

642
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: But the director said that this pretor this the predalium,

643
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,200
was smarter, so it was allowing that predator the custom

644
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:46,559
of taking that.

645
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: You can't argue it's canon. You can't argue that's what.

646
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: They said, that they were allowing to take off the

647
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,880
armor so they can fight.

648
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 4: I guess an alien wouldn't do that.

649
00:29:57,799 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: I guess so yeah, that alien would just go for

650
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:00,359
the kill.

651
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 4: That's what it's like. Super Smart isn't like the whole idea.

652
00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:07,119
Speaker 1: But I think there are their approach was xeno morse.

653
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 5: Or more are they shadow extreme?

654
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: Xeno Morse are highly intelligent.

655
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: I think it's not so much that it was that

656
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,119
they're more vicious and they would just go straight for

657
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,440
the kill where it's more predator thing too, you know,

658
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:23,279
for aunt, like they act a bit more like people. Yeah, exactly,

659
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:28,119
they act a bit more like a I'd say, a person. Yeah, well,

660
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:30,519
unless you accidentally throw a gun up at it and

661
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:32,960
it'll just fucking like. That was the weird thing this

662
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:35,240
movie with The Predator where at times it was like,

663
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,240
I'm not going to kill people, and then it would

664
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,599
cut to toilets there where it's massacring men and women.

665
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,200
It's just like there was no rhyme or reason of Okay,

666
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,799
I get we talked this last film. Okay, you want

667
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:47,880
the Predator to be the hero. Fine, but it's like

668
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:50,680
still of these humors weren't danger of the Predator, but

669
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,440
he's just blowing their heads off, he's throwing spikes at

670
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,559
them and everything was it was an odd, odd choice,

671
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:57,000
I don't know.

672
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: And this like the predators kill. Yes, well, they're trying

673
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,160
to make him the good well at first, like he's

674
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,440
trying to the big thing is there's trying the preador

675
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,039
killing that chick in the hallway, like poor poor Jesse,

676
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,880
but fuck that kill is sick and it's just crossfire

677
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,599
right like.

678
00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:14,559
Speaker 1: I don't know where that storyline is just gone. This

679
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:21,480
whole like to me, the only stories even then terrible.

680
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:24,880
The whole thing is terrible set up. It's classic. Okay,

681
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,599
guys had a crush on this girl's whole life, you know,

682
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,799
like Dylane says, they make the.

683
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:30,079
Speaker 3: Stupid looking at me.

684
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: Lovers and then like the bullis laugh the bullys beat

685
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,359
him up, throw his key, like get that lesson of them.

686
00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 4: Okay, they don't just beat him up, they like for

687
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:43,519
your death, and then his keys down the tree.

688
00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:47,039
Speaker 1: Find in thirty minutes or less. And then we just

689
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,079
get they and I get it because we have no

690
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,119
ton There's all of these characters, and this is how

691
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,240
the way the movie's written. But the next time we's here,

692
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:56,279
you know, I broke up with that guy, meet me

693
00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:58,920
here at ten pm or whatever, get there, she's just

694
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:04,279
ready to fuck him. She's just like like no build up,

695
00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:05,880
no like romance character.

696
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:07,319
Speaker 5: There's nothing to her.

697
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: It's near the clock now, you know. And then the

698
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,920
bullies showback up. It's like, how do they know you're

699
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,880
at the pool? Which whatever, But at least I was not.

700
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: They taught her, right, that's what he said.

701
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: They taught her.

702
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,799
Speaker 3: They taught her everything she knows, that's what he says.

703
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,240
He walks in there, so he knew.

704
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: Even sexually, not like not like flirting skills. But even that,

705
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:28,519
at least I was not. I was not really invested

706
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:31,119
with anything. I was invest Okay, can the guy get

707
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:33,200
the girl? And it's not even like a big moments,

708
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,880
just a running down a hall and yeah, she gets

709
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,519
spiked the wall. That's it's like, oh, that story is done,

710
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:37,960
you know.

711
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this movie definitely reeks of like male

712
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,440
writer who doesn't know how to write female characters. It's like,

713
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:47,119
really like even the fact that the other character who's

714
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:49,799
actually like, you know, she's like a she was in

715
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:52,720
the army or something like she's very well trained and whatnot.

716
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,640
But even then there's still a guy being like, oh,

717
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,759
you can't drive because you're a woman. It's like, come on,

718
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:58,680
like that's the level of humor we're dealing.

719
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,839
Speaker 3: The crash this writer. Man.

720
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:01,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

721
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:04,759
Speaker 3: In defense of the predator's actions, though.

722
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: I thought you're defending the like you know, yeah, like

723
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,839
she crashed the helicopter like you know, and then that

724
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,480
girlpool late night hours, how they get in there, you know?

725
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:19,039
Speaker 3: But uh No, I just think that when it started out,

726
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,000
the first victim of the predator was the deputy and

727
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:24,799
that was because I mean, the deputy walked in and

728
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,160
saw these dead bodies and saw this predator pour in

729
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,559
this blue ship, and he's trying to contain. At this point,

730
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:32,359
he thinks he can contain a situation, so he kills

731
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,920
him and he decides to skin him to as his

732
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:44,000
predator tradition too many, you might as well just follow through,

733
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:45,680
right the essence.

734
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:48,839
Speaker 1: If you're saying, like, that's that's what I did. That's

735
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,359
another thing I will agree. As far as a liking thing.

736
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,599
I liked the wolf, which they named after fucking pulp

737
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,759
fiction Harvey. I tell the wolf, So yeah, that's what

738
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:00,279
they said, deal and that's what they need and after

739
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:01,759
because he's there to clean up the problems.

740
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 5: So water.

741
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: I liked the idea of this more. Okay, he's the cleaner,

742
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,199
but that's where it's like, Okay, if you're trying to

743
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,079
be without trace and you're okay, time sensitive got to

744
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:17,360
get the alien finals victims. You have to kill a

745
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,119
human because he said, okay, whatever, they're in your way.

746
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,000
But then we're gonna sit here and skin them. That's

747
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,239
where it went out the window for me. You're like, oh, man, like,

748
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,239
why is he skinning these humans if he's on a

749
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,159
mission and not alert anybody? Like if the cops down

750
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,199
the gut three stab wombs, Okay, that's not a regular knife,

751
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,199
so I'd get that. But when they find the guy

752
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,159
completely hung from the tree and skin they're gonna know, Okay,

753
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,039
something's more up than just like you're regular random.

754
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: But that would that'd be the only isolated things like

755
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,119
oh what the hell.

756
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: He isn't throughout this movie, more happens, right.

757
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: I feel like it could be like sending a message too,

758
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:49,119
like stay out of my way, I'm doing my investigation.

759
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: Didn't work, fuck with me?

760
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: Putting trees upside down? That's right, Kirkling exactly when.

761
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,599
Speaker 1: He puts trees upside down, big, that's what does something.

762
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:02,599
Speaker 3: Pre playing the process to me, Hey, it's just sending

763
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:04,599
a message like hey, this is like I'm doing something.

764
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:07,199
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, explain the tree upside down?

765
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 3: The Bigfoot, Yes, takes the tree, puts upside down back

766
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,360
on the ground.

767
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:14,199
Speaker 1: So he pulls it from its roots and then he

768
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,159
stabs it into the ground and the trees upside How

769
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:18,159
big are these trees?

770
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: Well, I haven't seen it in person, but okay.

771
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: Because it sounds like this makes no sense at all.

772
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:25,639
How would you that tree'd be too if it's a

773
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:27,519
tall tree, be too tall to bounce it back into

774
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:28,639
the ground. No roots?

775
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: Well, bigfoot are big things though, I mean, at least.

776
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: That big supposed photos so funny. This is a big show.

777
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,679
Couldn't do this.

778
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: This is a big alien versus preader requiem. Yeah, I

779
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,519
just I just circle back. I think that it's just

780
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:50,000
I don't know, it's just tradition. It's just the thing

781
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,800
that he did. The preader's gotta do, but prayer's got

782
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,400
to do. Is this time and place? Like, Yeah, it's

783
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,159
maybe a little bit oddly placed, but he.

784
00:35:57,159 --> 00:35:59,599
Speaker 4: Would have done that really fast though, like like I

785
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:02,119
feel like that wouldn't have taken him more than twenty minutes. Oh,

786
00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:04,320
he's a veteran still, and that's like that's like a

787
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,199
lunch break, Like like I feel like that's acceptable.

788
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,679
Speaker 1: I mentioned his superior and he gets back, So, what

789
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:14,239
the fuck are you doing? Like the performance, it's tradition, man,

790
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,960
I had it. It was my kill. You're supposed to

791
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,360
be in and out, in and out, and here you

792
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:23,400
are skinning these cops, you fucking idiot. Why Uh? Yeah,

793
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,679
were suspended.

794
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,639
Speaker 3: There's the Hunter's store that's there getting the guns and stuff. Now,

795
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,760
those two smoke Smoke guys that rushed in.

796
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: Smoke guys, the Undertaker from nineties, the Smoke guy.

797
00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:42,559
Speaker 3: Like, I understand why Wolf re acted the way he

798
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:44,280
did because they charged at him with their guns up.

799
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,920
So that just prompted like, ar no, that was just

800
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,239
a threat, insta threat. There was. This is one of

801
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,440
the deleted scenes where you don't it's another kill. The

802
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,360
preditor gets where the mom and daughter running from the house,

803
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,039
and this is in between the dad dying and then

804
00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:01,960
the store that they arrived. They're running and they get

805
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,039
to a graveyard and you hear screams and gunshots and

806
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,679
this other guy has a gun in the graveyard. He's like, oh,

807
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:10,119
come here, and like okay, I'll keep you safe, you know,

808
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,159
and he's talking about I can't remember what he was saying,

809
00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:16,159
but he's just he's just a paranoid old guy. And

810
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:17,480
the girl's like, Mom, I'm scared.

811
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm scared.

812
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: I'm scared of The guy's like shut her up, shure

813
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,280
the fuck up, or I'm gonna fucking he starts threatening her.

814
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,119
So the predator is in the tree do it in

815
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:27,519
the tree. He's doing his medical stuff and he sees

816
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:31,159
the guy freaking out, and so he shoots the the

817
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:34,719
fucking guy's head off with this plasma caster. Guy drops

818
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,519
the gun and the woman goes to grab the gun,

819
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:38,199
but the predator' shining his red light on the gun,

820
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,679
so she leaves it and then she runs off to

821
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,360
the department store. It's pretty crazy scene.

822
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,079
Speaker 5: Is that the Is that the predator from your top

823
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:48,440
ten list? From all the dude? The Predator in the tree?

824
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:51,519
Speaker 3: I can't even remember. I think it was. Yeah, I'm

825
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:54,039
pretty sure that one is. But that is man. Fuck

826
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:56,239
Wolf is fucking awesome, though.

827
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: That's probat the guy that he gets back to put

828
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,920
him in the tree for such a bad performance movie.

829
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: He was scrutified Wolf, Are you serious?

830
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: I don't trust Wolf to be on my team, but

831
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,519
the Predator tree from Predators, He's he'll be on your team.

832
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember the the predator that we spend

833
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,400
the most amount of time within the last movie, like not.

834
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 3: The two that died, Like that's the scar Scar.

835
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,119
Speaker 2: Okay is he is he the dead one at the

836
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:24,360
start of this movie? He yeah, okay, so that is

837
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,159
like built from his DNA?

838
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 5: Then I suppose yes, yeah, okay, that's cool.

839
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. To mention it though, that was one of other

840
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:36,920
human storylines where a woman vet is coming back for more. Uh,

841
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:39,199
this is literally the scenes. You know, she gets back,

842
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,199
husband's like happy to be home. They have a kid

843
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,039
next seeing it story time, Oh my god. And the

844
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:46,920
husband's getting dragged out of the house terrible way of

845
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,559
the door, be like, oh there's a monster. There's no monster,

846
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:51,719
so anything he breaks through. But yeah, same thing. I

847
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,000
was surprised how fast the husband died. We met him

848
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,239
a total of a couple of minutes and that was it.

849
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,079
And that's a reoccurring thing in this one that you

850
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,320
meet these characters for just their log line and then

851
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:04,400
gets to go. I get why she would, but I

852
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,239
just found it very funny that I just feel like

853
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,239
the husband has attack, she picks up the kids and

854
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,280
just run. She doesn't even look back, doesn't even see.

855
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: If she knows this game over.

856
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,679
Speaker 1: I know, but just like I was expecting, just like

857
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,920
a longing look or something, but she's just like I

858
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,880
think she is doing some other stuff during work, and

859
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,559
she's just like, there's just no like sentimental value send

860
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:27,559
off to the husband. He just felt like a dude.

861
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:29,599
It could have been like the babysitter that was watching

862
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:31,239
the kid and got killed off. You know, I thought

863
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,440
there's gonna be at least one look of sad. And

864
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,039
even then, about thirty minutes later when she bumps to

865
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:39,079
other people, she's cracking jokes with these characters, like your.

866
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 2: Reaction from Ricky when Jesse gets killed in a hole.

867
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,679
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what was odd to me, so you yeah,

868
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,519
but show out to a show out to the dad.

869
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:50,280
I guess he sacrificed himself for his his family. So

870
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:50,719
good for him.

871
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was a willing sacrifice. I see,

872
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,400
no monster, he's just start a prop a point.

873
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it cost him his life.

874
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:02,679
Speaker 1: And who else do we have?

875
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:08,639
Speaker 3: First we had the sheriff, yeah.

876
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 4: And super trusting of the government.

877
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: Government's never wrong. And then the people. We had the

878
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,920
lady who was the mother of the son at the beginning, right, yeah,

879
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,920
she was just a soul. She was she was dan

880
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,920
wach good. She has no help on the team. But

881
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,280
you know what, that's something I liked. I liked at

882
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,280
the end when they had those characters go to the

883
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,440
government site after being warmed, like yeah they are, and

884
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,599
then the Trumps and kills them. Like there's something about

885
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:38,119
that that I was like, you know what, they don't

886
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:41,559
do this enough in movies, because either all characters decide no,

887
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,880
you're right, we can't go there, or it is okay,

888
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,639
the government was fine. I kind of liked it as

889
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:49,880
like a nice diversion expectations of oh no, you were wrong.

890
00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:54,639
Speaker 4: So with it was like it was so like mustache

891
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:58,840
toorally like in the sense with like the colonel that's like,

892
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,840
oh yeah, just go there, and then then he like

893
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,360
he like hangs up his walk. He's like they're ten

894
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,119
us all yeah, Like every time it goes to him,

895
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,079
it's like, okay, clearly he's just gonna nuke the whole

896
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:10,840
fucking town. I feel like you're picking us up.

897
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Right, were they gonna be there soon? You're picking us

898
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:13,760
up though, right.

899
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: Oh we're ten minutes as you like see like a

900
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:18,960
nuke just going. It's like, you know, like why even

901
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:22,039
do these moments like just just have it from our

902
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,960
hero's perspective and then just like talking to the military guy,

903
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,400
they get there and then that happens. I feel like

904
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,440
that would have been so much more of a shock,

905
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:32,039
whereas that's everyone that just trusts him from that point

906
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:34,239
on him, Like these guys are just absolute idiots, like this,

907
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,119
this makes no sense.

908
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: I guess that's why I think you're right, maybe it

909
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,559
could be done better, So maybe I'll rip then, you know,

910
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:44,480
a movie one year for us. But like I thought

911
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:46,400
they were doing this and I thought the sheriff was

912
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,480
going to realize, oh they are, Like you're right, they

913
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:52,519
made it so obvious. Why he just looks like an idiot,

914
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:55,159
Because that's why I was surprised. So now thinking about, yeah,

915
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:57,639
it's not great, but I was like, oh, they're for

916
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,920
sure gonna leave because they're so percus so they're gonna

917
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,880
figure it out. So I guess maybe it just gave

918
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,599
me a giggle that they still didn't leave and they

919
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,519
just got bombed. So maybe that's why I enjoyed it,

920
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:10,760
because it's just so stupid, But you're right, they should

921
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,360
have made they should have made it more down the

922
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,079
line of more believing, like, oh, we heard they've like

923
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:17,480
got other people out. But I had a giggle that

924
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,920
they they like a group of characters calls them idiot

925
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,400
for going there, and then him and this one go

926
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,599
there and they're idiots because yeah, they just get nuked.

927
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:27,920
Which I don't understand why the army would not kill

928
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,000
our main characters at the end. It makes very little

929
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:32,639
sense to me, Like just because they got out of

930
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:35,360
the city, they'd still be if you're working with this

931
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,480
government and this idea and this movie, like, okay, they're

932
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,719
there to eliminate anyone that would have been exposed, and

933
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,559
they got out of city, they should be assassining them

934
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:43,360
on the spot.

935
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:45,679
Speaker 3: You know, No, I I think that you're you're looking

936
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,480
at a situation where like the Predator, for example, Now,

937
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:58,679
what's what's his name? Like Destiny, Like what's his name? Yeah? Yeah,

938
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,159
So you have his character he was obviously military, he

939
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,559
encounters a predator and then some of his members of

940
00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:06,280
his team die and then they just bring him in

941
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,880
for questioning. Right, that's the main thing. Because something happened

942
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:11,320
the agency wants to talk to him, and then they

943
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,840
sent him off and who knows where they going to

944
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,840
execute it after that. It's the movie writing is very

945
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,639
very wonky, but it's to me and implied they were

946
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:20,280
just gonna outright kill him with these other military people.

947
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,000
But I think the main thing here is, Okay, these

948
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,800
people survived. We have no other witnesses that are alive

949
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,039
in this town because we had a new get to

950
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:29,519
contain it. But now we have this group of people

951
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:31,719
that we can talk to and interview, and whatever happens

952
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,199
after the fact, that's after the fact. But they obviously

953
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:37,000
need to talk and get information because there's a lot

954
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,079
of stuff.

955
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: Is there to get. They just bombed it.

956
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 5: They like this.

957
00:43:41,559 --> 00:43:44,199
Speaker 1: If they're worried about these people being infected, they would

958
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,320
make no sense why they take them back to Basin.

959
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: I think the big thing is that they had alien tech.

960
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,159
And I mean the one thing they knew they were

961
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:54,239
dealing with was the like the ra classic Zeno. But

962
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,079
the fact that there is now bipedal alien like super

963
00:43:58,159 --> 00:44:00,639
Hunter that dropped a gun that they have, it's like, okay,

964
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,039
these guys encountered it, like can we interview it? But

965
00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:04,840
again that's me headcanning it. I don't know.

966
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,079
Speaker 1: Why defense is. It's not a good defense either.

967
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,079
Speaker 3: But that's followed up in the ending too, right, because

968
00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:14,360
they are super interested in all that stuff that's going on.

969
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,039
Enter miss Utani, which we'll never see again in any

970
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:18,880
alien media.

971
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 4: End credit. I liked it.

972
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 5: My my issue, I don't.

973
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 2: It's hard to really describe, but I just foun I

974
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,719
just found the ending anti climactic, which is funny to say.

975
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,440
It's literally like, the biggest possible thing you could do

976
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:36,719
is my massive nuke that kills everything and everyone, including

977
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:40,239
the villains, any heroes or characters we had left. But

978
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,599
I still just found it very anti climactic. I don't

979
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:44,920
know what I would want it instead. I think, you know,

980
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,960
like the whole movie is building towards this moment, so

981
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,800
it's hard to just like do one or quick one

982
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,119
or two quick little things to rewrite it into a

983
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:54,159
more interesting story. For me, it's like, yeah, once again,

984
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:56,400
I also don't know if I want it to be that,

985
00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:59,239
you know, our ragtag group of humans, three or four

986
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,960
of them, figure out some good solution to take up

987
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,360
both of these apex predators, because predators being the predator

988
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,719
and the Alien and Alien Predator, all three versions of it,

989
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,840
because I don't think that would be very satisfied either.

990
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,280
But that's just kind of how this whole trajectory was going.

991
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,159
But either way, the ending didn't work for me. And yeah,

992
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,400
like that that post credit sequel bait.

993
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: Was like so like that, like how is that supposed

994
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:22,480
to be?

995
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 5: It's like worse than a chat GPT one.

996
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what is it supposed to get you? Like what,

997
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,360
how does it get you excited? Like, well, it's tech

998
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,159
from another world, yes it is. And then they cut

999
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:35,000
the block. It's like what, like what, like what is

1000
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:39,239
exciting about that one gun? Yeah, and it's like okay, cool,

1001
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,199
like you know, there's other stuff out there. I guess

1002
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:44,760
it's still like oh well. Then she's like I don't

1003
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,440
know eventually because like they post the alien movies that

1004
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,960
they stumble upon the Xenamorus, right, so it's not like,

1005
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:52,559
well we go out there and aliens too. That's the

1006
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,159
like that's the plot of oh, well, we know it's

1007
00:45:55,199 --> 00:45:56,480
out there, we want to make it a weapon. But

1008
00:45:56,519 --> 00:45:59,679
it just, I don't know, just just just weird. I

1009
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:01,320
don't know. It was a hype moment, and I agree

1010
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,719
with you, Dylan, where maybe they didn't have the budget,

1011
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,119
but I feel like them escaped on the helicopter, whether

1012
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:08,800
it's the alien the Predator, I feel like that's built

1013
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,239
for that final set pieces. Like someone jumps on that helicopter.

1014
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,440
You're trying to fight that thing off, right, like the

1015
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,119
perd aliens on there, and you're.

1016
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 5: Like kicking so many times.

1017
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: That's also not with a human helicopter.

1018
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,599
Speaker 5: Though, with the human helicopter, that would.

1019
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: Have been my pitch, like in that at least more

1020
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,000
exciting than then they just they fly off in a ball.

1021
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,440
At least maybe you lose one member, like you could

1022
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,960
have lost I think like the more mature brother, who

1023
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,320
I guess it wasn't in the final movie. They I

1024
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,679
think in this one of the lead scenes that I'm

1025
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:39,880
not sure if it's in the ones you've seen. I

1026
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,480
think they imply he was like a former convicted convicted

1027
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:46,159
felt yeah, okay, so he was like a he's a

1028
00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:48,119
bad ass because he's been in prison and stuff like that.

1029
00:46:48,159 --> 00:46:50,360
But he could have lost his brother, yeah, like the

1030
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,480
older Yeah.

1031
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: I thought that was his dad. I don't know, I

1032
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,519
know that's his brother. Yeah, miss that detail.

1033
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,519
Speaker 1: YEA. Their energy HadAM young and then went to prison.

1034
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:01,639
They missed all those years. But you could even kill

1035
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:03,840
the young guy who lost his love interest, because once

1036
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,679
he gets spiked in the shoulder, he gets.

1037
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I think it would have been two for one,

1038
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,239
just killed himself in his anger of that.

1039
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: I thought he's gonna jump on the shaft.

1040
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 5: I thought he was going to it, but yeah, didn't

1041
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:15,920
end up dying.

1042
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: No, Then he does nothing for the next fifteen minutes anyway, So.

1043
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:25,519
Speaker 1: He's just in shock, you know. So yeah, what uh

1044
00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:26,440
what next? For?

1045
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: Well, here's here's a random thing. Do you get Colonel

1046
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,360
Stevens is like the villain government guy. Did he look

1047
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:35,599
just exactly like Jeff Keeley, do you guys?

1048
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 5: Or was that just me?

1049
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,639
Speaker 1: He did look a little like Jeff Keey. I'll give

1050
00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:38,880
you that.

1051
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me share.

1052
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,519
Speaker 2: Let me share this particular image because I'm like, this

1053
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:44,440
is this is Keey right here?

1054
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,119
Speaker 1: Do you have a side by side?

1055
00:47:48,639 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 5: I don't have a side by side.

1056
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's made that, but like, like, look

1057
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,239
at that, that is Jack.

1058
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: Here, that's in the future. That's Summer Games four, like

1059
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,960
thirty years No, I agree, it has a lot of

1060
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,559
his feetures.

1061
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 4: The nose, the eyebrows like she as well a little bit.

1062
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love far the eyes lies.

1063
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 4: The planning. Uh, it's funny. A big part of this

1064
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,119
movie is just like the app the darkness of it.

1065
00:48:20,199 --> 00:48:23,920
And you know, before we before I watched this movie,

1066
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:25,800
I did a cast with Taylor and he told me

1067
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,000
to watch it at nighttime, which fantastic advice because I

1068
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:33,559
could actually see what was going on. I actually remember

1069
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,880
while I was watching it. Why I stopped watching it

1070
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,480
the first time around was because I was watching on

1071
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:42,639
some like fucking I don't even know whatever website of

1072
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:44,679
like where you would stream a movie, and I like

1073
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,000
it was I don't know if it was a cam version,

1074
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:49,880
but like it was like not a great quality. Plus

1075
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,239
it was like absolute just pitch black. And I remember

1076
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,119
watching the day and I'm like, I can't fucking see

1077
00:48:55,159 --> 00:48:58,400
anything that's going on. So the first really dark sequence,

1078
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:01,079
not like the opening on the on the predatorship, but

1079
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:03,440
like the first actual dark sequence, I remember that's where

1080
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:04,079
I turned it off.

1081
00:49:04,119 --> 00:49:05,639
Speaker 5: So you were maybe one of those sequences.

1082
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was one of those moments just can't see.

1083
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 5: Ship from here your road?

1084
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:18,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, the light in my eyes that's that sewer is

1085
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:26,239
just brutal, just like just tough.

1086
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: So so when.

1087
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 4: The two brothers go down there to find his keys,

1088
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,079
I it just blows my mind that A they went

1089
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:36,199
down into the sewer to find his keys, but like

1090
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,760
also like be like instead of like looking around his

1091
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,679
like first options just go fucking elbows deep and like

1092
00:49:45,679 --> 00:49:50,519
like absolute sludge. There could be a dead carcass in there.

1093
00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 8: And he's just like it's just feeling around for really

1094
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,159
fast though, but after that he's like, oh, go check

1095
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,679
up there, and then he's just like reached around or

1096
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,920
like around a corner. I'm like, fuck man, this guy's

1097
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,119
gonna have tetanus, he's gonna have rabies. Like this is

1098
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,519
not a good idea to.

1099
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,519
Speaker 4: Just be fishing fishing around down here. But yeah, surprisingly

1100
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:13,159
he did find them, So what do I know.

1101
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:16,159
Speaker 1: When they interview him and they like take all the

1102
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,440
talks reports everything, they're like, you gotta high system of

1103
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:21,920
ship and you're did the alien do that too? Like

1104
00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:26,559
Noah's just we went into the super but yeah, in

1105
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:28,360
real life, I don't think you're find the keys that

1106
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,719
Maybe let me know anyone who's lost her keys that way,

1107
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,199
but for me, that I'm calling it a calling it lost.

1108
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,039
I'm just breaking the window and hot wind in the car.

1109
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:39,840
Then yeah, yeah, I ain't sledgend through that in no way,

1110
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,880
but nice enough brother to go through there and do

1111
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,280
that with him, So or Dad for Kirkling was the.

1112
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,079
Speaker 2: Game experience after they hadn't seen each other for a while.

1113
00:50:49,159 --> 00:50:53,440
So yeah, Taylor, one thing you mentioned that I really

1114
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:56,639
enjoyed was that the Predator had that tech to disintegrate

1115
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,320
bodies and just kind of erase any evidence or any

1116
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,920
footprint of their existence there.

1117
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 5: So I thought, yeah, that was that was a cool detail. Uh.

1118
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: Also that sequence, I think it's in that like pawn

1119
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,679
shop where all the characters kind of all coalesced for

1120
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,079
the first time, like all the different groups connect, and

1121
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,119
I think it's the prettily that like just shoots one

1122
00:51:17,159 --> 00:51:18,760
guy in the face with goo and it just like

1123
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,519
disintegrates his face off, like immediately once again with Dale,

1124
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:26,039
who's on the ground, I don't know his name, but

1125
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,360
he's ripped right off and it's like man and once

1126
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,440
again an incredibly brutal moment that actually made me cringe.

1127
00:51:33,519 --> 00:51:36,880
So yeah, I think that was those things, the like

1128
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,639
he was like fuck, this, he gets the keys and

1129
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:40,559
he runs and the alien like jumps on him, and

1130
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:43,280
so the predators on top of a shelf, just watching

1131
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,360
and the alien.

1132
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,639
Speaker 5: And that was the guy who was like talking ship

1133
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,360
to the daughter.

1134
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the bully. Yeah mm hmmm nice.

1135
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: What was his name him?

1136
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: Dale?

1137
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,079
Speaker 1: Shout at Dale.

1138
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: I know that because the older brother, Dallas, Damn Dallas.

1139
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:03,800
He freaks out at him because Dale, like, we should

1140
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,199
just leave town now. He's like, you're too stupid to think, Dale,

1141
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:06,760
shut up.

1142
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a pretty good idea though, like

1143
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:15,599
I just get out of there. But yeah, I don't

1144
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:20,320
think I have much And like again, I feel like

1145
00:52:20,679 --> 00:52:23,119
maybe that's another reason why I want third one as

1146
00:52:23,159 --> 00:52:25,440
well as I feel like both movies missed out on

1147
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,800
the opportunity to have like a epic classic alien versus

1148
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,880
Prider fight scene. I think both of them have issues.

1149
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,519
Where the first one they are just really clunky and

1150
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:35,280
like I said, lots of guys in suits, where this

1151
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,800
one was just lots of close quarters, lots of shaky

1152
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,360
cam dark, Like I want to see something, maybe just

1153
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,239
like produce a Alien versus Predator special presentation, just make

1154
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,199
it twenty five minutes a fight between two and go

1155
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,519
with just Yeah, that's what I wish. I was hoping

1156
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:55,280
out of both of these movies that i'd get one scene.

1157
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,559
It's like, well, even if all that was shit, that

1158
00:52:57,639 --> 00:53:00,440
fight scene was fucking awesome and I didn't get that

1159
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,880
with the either ones. That's that's my saddest thing.

1160
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 5: By that nuke going off, you know, we're.

1161
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, we're about to get to the nitty griddy

1162
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:07,599
of it.

1163
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,599
Speaker 3: So yeah, rip the mouth on, right, that was pretty cool.

1164
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: That was cool. That was a good one where yeah,

1165
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,519
it goes to a little moment and then that aliens.

1166
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:17,119
Like but even though I feel like, shouldn't that blood

1167
00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:20,199
be melting the predator? Right, that's like spewing out of

1168
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,000
the alien's mouth.

1169
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: Yes, assume there's some resistance to it because a hybrid,

1170
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,280
like the blood is kind of uh in different parts

1171
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:30,800
of the body.

1172
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,079
Speaker 1: Who's that guy to at one point? Oh, it's one

1173
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:36,079
of the bullies, the guy that was like, you know,

1174
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,400
mad that his girlfriend beating him up to fuck. The

1175
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,119
guy at the pool. He's like being held down by

1176
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:43,159
an alien and the prenatter is like not trying to

1177
00:53:43,159 --> 00:53:45,360
help him, but I guess trying to assist and he

1178
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:49,239
like headshots the alien, but like it's not the pret alien.

1179
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:51,320
It's just the alien's head comes off and all the

1180
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,360
blood just goes down and kills one of the bullies.

1181
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,440
So terrible.

1182
00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:56,199
Speaker 4: What the scene Taylor just talked about?

1183
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 3: That's Dale.

1184
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's Dale. Okay, sorry I know I didn't know Dane.

1185
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:03,920
Oh sorry I forgot I didn't take notes of their name.

1186
00:54:04,159 --> 00:54:08,159
But yeah, back to my beginning point, I just wish

1187
00:54:08,199 --> 00:54:11,519
there was a classic fight here. Never got it, so

1188
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:12,280
fair enough.

1189
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 4: How do you go backwards?

1190
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:13,519
Speaker 1: Though?

1191
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:15,519
Speaker 4: From the pread alien, I still want to just have

1192
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:16,360
a predator.

1193
00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: Back to basics. It's just even I think the mistake

1194
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,199
was with the last one of having the alien, Like,

1195
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,920
I don't know why they ever just had predator versus

1196
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,840
a bunch of aliens even that one. Isn't there a

1197
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,599
multiple aliens right? Or or multiple predators? Yeah, it's multiple.

1198
00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:32,400
It's an alien and then they fight two and they

1199
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,360
kill them. There's one and there's like a queen. Right

1200
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,199
to me, it's just like basics, like one alien, one predator,

1201
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,159
make them high power levels and that's it, like, and

1202
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:44,119
make them very evenly scaled. No one's getting the upper hand,

1203
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,440
I don't think you need a bunch of the region

1204
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:48,920
stuff with the humans or anything like it should have

1205
00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:51,159
at least I get the sequel you gotta go bigger,

1206
00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:53,519
so that's fine, but the first one should just been

1207
00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:57,039
one v one and that to me is big enough. Yeah.

1208
00:54:57,079 --> 00:55:00,039
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it'd be fun, but I I

1209
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:02,079
don't know if I believe it. I feel like the

1210
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,239
you guys are saying the alien are highly intelligent. I

1211
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,800
feel like I disagree with that claim, at least from

1212
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,760
myself watching all these movies, Like they're incredibly strong, like physically,

1213
00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:13,039
and they you know, have their blood, the fact that

1214
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:15,880
their blood kills people, so they just have like martyrdom

1215
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,039
pretty much from Call of Duty as like a Perk

1216
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,320
Perk said on there, like, I don't I think a

1217
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,559
one v one if we're like talking a realistic battle,

1218
00:55:23,559 --> 00:55:26,079
like if we're doing this in the geek versus thing

1219
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:27,639
that we're gonna do on the stream, like the Predator

1220
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:28,599
would easily win.

1221
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,159
Speaker 5: Right, there's no contest.

1222
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:33,599
Speaker 3: I think the smartest alien you're you're gonna see is

1223
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:37,320
in that first film. I think as the movies progress,

1224
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,559
the people that helm these projects make the aliens dumber

1225
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:45,840
and I think that's because of the quantity of water represented,

1226
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:49,199
because I since I will stand by the fact that

1227
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,000
I think the alien is super super intelligent, and of

1228
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:53,840
course when you're dealing with a queen or something else,

1229
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,840
is supposed to be even more smarter. But I can

1230
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,400
see where you're coming from, Dylan, because in these movies

1231
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,000
were aliens are just front and center making stupid moves

1232
00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:05,559
and whatnot. I mean alien versus predator. Tried to have

1233
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:08,880
a little bit of an intelligent alien with nethead with

1234
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,760
like the one I got out of the mesh net thing.

1235
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, like obviously compared to a predators,

1236
00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:19,199
dumber than a predator, right, no, no question.

1237
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 5: I'm surprised you guys even have to think about.

1238
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: That because I've seen a lot of dumb predators too.

1239
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,480
That's the problem too.

1240
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 3: Like first as well, Like in the first AVP. In

1241
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,639
the first AVP, again it's with the netead alien. When

1242
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:36,119
the one the one predator gets killed by the one

1243
00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:38,480
alien and the alien goes to kill the second predator.

1244
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,679
That alien gets trapped in a net and what is

1245
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:42,679
the predator? He pulls out a little dagger and walks

1246
00:56:42,679 --> 00:56:45,360
slowly towards it to kill it, he takes his time

1247
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,559
and ends up paying the price of his life. So

1248
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,280
there are some predators in the main movies that do

1249
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,079
stupid things too.

1250
00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:53,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, because my issue with the predator sometimes they don't

1251
00:56:53,199 --> 00:56:55,760
seem a little dude Broie. You know that's where and

1252
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,559
you know, dude BROI is like ultra level dumb. So

1253
00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:01,960
I think that's what I'm saying. Get the whoever it

1254
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:04,800
is in these movies. You get the smartest predator, get

1255
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,440
the smartest xenomorph out there, and you have them do

1256
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:11,119
get I do. I think like the predators are smarter

1257
00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:13,559
and degree where they have more of a cognizance that

1258
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:15,519
like we do like a similar mind to us, where

1259
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:18,119
alien is just for hunting. But that's where I would

1260
00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:20,199
not lean. I don't know where i'd go, but that's

1261
00:57:20,239 --> 00:57:22,360
where I say, oh, you give them that way because

1262
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,360
they're not thinking about their clan or a mission. They're

1263
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,800
just there to kill and reproduce. So there's like so

1264
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,239
so in a sense, preaders are smarter, but the aliens

1265
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,960
are so single minded or just one goal oriented. That's

1266
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,079
where I think they should bypass the predator's skills. But

1267
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:38,480
that's where I think it was like an ultimate like

1268
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,679
David Goliath thing where it is like a I don't

1269
00:57:41,679 --> 00:57:48,480
know a warrior versus a unhinged killer, and David, yes,

1270
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,199
specifically him. So I agree that I think they are

1271
00:57:53,239 --> 00:57:56,000
a little bit smarter. But I think that's the way

1272
00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:58,679
where you can make it that the predators are so good.

1273
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,199
But and I'm saying, make these aliens faster, or make

1274
00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:04,280
them their selves good, make uh, you know, stuff with

1275
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:04,599
the face.

1276
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: I think the more you guys talk about, the more

1277
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,440
I backing down on my point. I think if we

1278
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,320
take the average predator against the average alien, I'd probably

1279
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,440
say predator is, yes, on average, smarter, but yeah, once again,

1280
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,960
they have the power of numbers, no doubt. But that's

1281
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,639
where I just feel like, yeah, one v one scenario

1282
00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:23,039
seems unfair. But yeah, and then there's other times when

1283
00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:27,400
some aliens are pretty freaking strong, so especially like a queen,

1284
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,320
you know, obviously that would be a different kind of

1285
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:29,880
battle too.

1286
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: M hm. So I will get it. I don't think

1287
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,039
we're I think these movies kind of sully to any

1288
00:58:35,079 --> 00:58:36,239
chance of anything happening.

1289
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 5: Someday, It'll happen again. It's got it right. Everything is

1290
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:42,760
sicklical for you.

1291
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: I'll say, not my billion dollars. If they're making an

1292
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,639
AVP or were they not just making Ramas too?

1293
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 4: They're bringing in both franchises.

1294
00:58:52,519 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: They make Rama's two, a VP three, they'd make another

1295
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,880
Predator movie actually put in theaters this time. Have they

1296
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,840
confirmed if the next Predator is going to go in theaters?

1297
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:02,519
Speaker 3: Pretty sure? The next one, yeah, I don't think, but

1298
00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:04,119
the other one streaming right.

1299
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,239
Speaker 1: I think Pray Too will as well. I think they're

1300
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,280
going away from Disney. Plus, I think they're like, these

1301
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,880
fucking apps aren't making us the money. I'm gonna say this,

1302
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,519
I don't think we'll get a movie in my lifetime.

1303
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:16,480
That's what I'll say. WHOA I could see okay, a

1304
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:20,239
live action maybe, sure, I'll take I'll take the pizza.

1305
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,679
Speaker 5: That pizza. I'll bring you pizza.

1306
00:59:23,719 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: I'll be like ninety and you'd be like they just

1307
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,800
announced the Aliens Predator three. They're like, oh my god, finally,

1308
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:35,199
so I could see something. Okay, here, I'll I'll cur

1309
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,199
tailor so you can take the pizza bit away. I

1310
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:40,760
don't see an Alien Versus Predator theatrical movie in my

1311
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,679
lifetime streaming maybe there's a chance maybe there's something. But

1312
00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:47,760
I could see maybe they release that anime series, maybe

1313
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,039
they go back to a comic book Alien Taylor, did

1314
00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:52,440
they ever do the alien versus comic book? I know

1315
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,079
they've been in the games. Okay, so there you goes

1316
00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:57,440
never mind there. So I would like to, like I said,

1317
00:59:57,519 --> 01:00:00,880
give it to a director that's like somewhat like like

1318
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:04,760
that's rude, someone that is an above average talent, that's

1319
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,639
what it's. Someone that has care for the franchise and

1320
01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:09,800
also has a good lots of history under the belts

1321
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,880
of oh, they can make a really solid movie. You know.

1322
01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:15,760
Another good guy would be fucking the guy mad creator

1323
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,239
in Rogue one. What's his name, Gareth Edwards, he'd be

1324
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,800
he's about to make Durassic World. Like, there's a good guy.

1325
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,360
That's the guy too. Creator looks like a thousand, one

1326
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,239
thousand bucks, looks like a billion bucks. It's eighty million dollars,

1327
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,199
you know, same budgets Robert Downey's Avengers pay roll. Like

1328
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,039
he could make stuff look really good for really cheap.

1329
01:00:34,039 --> 01:00:36,800
So that that's my pick right there. Gareth Edwards and Scale,

1330
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:40,039
he'd make you feel like those aliens are just fucking massive.

1331
01:00:40,239 --> 01:00:42,280
You know that's my pick.

1332
01:00:42,119 --> 01:00:47,559
Speaker 3: Now beautiful, Well, I got details on AVP three.

1333
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: Give it to me because I didn't put any of

1334
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,039
that in the trivia.

1335
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 4: So I've updated two thousand and seven.

1336
01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still in that forum and refresh.

1337
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,079
Speaker 3: I'll start. I'll start with the two thousand and eight thing,

1338
01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:00,360
and then I got twenty twenty three doll back are these?

1339
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:01,039
Speaker 1: Are these?

1340
01:01:01,159 --> 01:01:01,239
Speaker 5: Like?

1341
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 3: You go?

1342
01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: And then I'll do after this.

1343
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 3: Two and eight thing. I would always go on here

1344
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:08,840
because it's some screen ranch and I remember being a

1345
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,280
little kid going on here, and I love that it's

1346
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,639
still up. But it's just it's funny to read this

1347
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,239
now after we've been around the block so many years later.

1348
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,679
And I quote and anonymous source over a twentieth century

1349
01:01:21,679 --> 01:01:23,679
Fox got in touch with us over the weekend to

1350
01:01:23,719 --> 01:01:26,360
relay the news. Another Alien Versus Preader sequel is a

1351
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:27,599
certainty at this point.

1352
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: They do got their job after the bio.

1353
01:01:31,679 --> 01:01:33,239
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, if.

1354
01:01:33,159 --> 01:01:35,559
Speaker 3: You recall the brother Strauss who helmed the Christmas release

1355
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:38,320
Aliens Versus Preader. Requiem stated Fox is going to take

1356
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,920
a wait and see approach to a third chapter. Furthermore,

1357
01:01:41,159 --> 01:01:42,679
that the story would have to continue in.

1358
01:01:42,639 --> 01:01:45,639
Speaker 1: Space long wait and See. We're almost a twenty years

1359
01:01:45,679 --> 01:01:47,960
long Wait and See, which again we talked about something

1360
01:01:48,039 --> 01:01:50,480
last week, but the fact that releases during Christmas, such

1361
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,159
what dummies are doing that? Like that, this is at

1362
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,199
least a Halloween release, if not summer.

1363
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: The first one too had like snowy environments, so that

1364
01:01:57,519 --> 01:01:58,559
would make a bit more sense.

1365
01:01:58,679 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, so this came out February in twenty twenty three,

1366
01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:09,440
and this is from AVP Galaxy, which, man, they're like

1367
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:12,440
my go to, Like they're the alien Romulus posters that

1368
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:14,239
dropped today, Like, man, they're on it.

1369
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:17,719
Speaker 3: They're interviewing people, They're they're so nitty gritty invents people

1370
01:02:17,719 --> 01:02:20,920
are the interviewing, oh like people working on the Romulus

1371
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:21,599
film and stuff like.

1372
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:23,679
Speaker 4: That, the sources from twentieth century.

1373
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 3: They're very much affiliated in there. I think they're at

1374
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,000
San Diego Comic Con, like they're they're in the the

1375
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:34,599
thing with with aliens and predators. So they've always been

1376
01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:36,559
like a good go to for for me personally. But

1377
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:42,480
I digress. So this is this is interesting. I don't

1378
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,559
think I've actually ever read this, but they have. If

1379
01:02:44,639 --> 01:02:46,760
you know who Liam O'Donnell is, he worked on the

1380
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,159
Skyline movies and he did up a quick treatment for

1381
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,960
what AVP three would be. But before I read off that,

1382
01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:56,639
the brothers who did a VP two, they were thinking

1383
01:02:56,679 --> 01:02:59,159
about a story revolving a special ops team are with

1384
01:02:59,199 --> 01:03:03,039
predator technology weaponry going to the pred or home world

1385
01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:07,079
or colony to actually go and fight them.

1386
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:11,159
Speaker 1: Does this story explain how the aliens would be involved?

1387
01:03:11,559 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 3: Well, that that was just the basic pitch that the

1388
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,440
brothers were being Now with the aliens being involved, this

1389
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,800
is what Liam O'Donnell. He did a treatment for it,

1390
01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:22,880
and I'm just I'm just gonna read it off real quick.

1391
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,360
Here it's a couple of paragraphs, but this is this

1392
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,880
is crazy and where it ties to I think is

1393
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,199
is kind of unique. This is kind of like a

1394
01:03:30,239 --> 01:03:36,519
chatchept moment almost. That's I wrote this myself here with Chachi.

1395
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted my crew and day. Your script

1396
01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:41,559
remind me a lot of chat Cheep teacher, I was.

1397
01:03:41,639 --> 01:03:43,440
That's that's what I know. I'll just pack it in

1398
01:03:43,559 --> 01:03:44,280
and call it there.

1399
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 3: Uh So, in twenty twenty four, of the world was

1400
01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:50,199
steering direction of a world control by corporations rather than states.

1401
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:55,960
Uh So, the treatment describes it as a federation dominated

1402
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,960
by the now merged whalen Utani Corporation. Following the retrieval

1403
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:01,679
of the predator plasm pistol at the end of a

1404
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,400
VP two and the insights from investigating the alien tech,

1405
01:04:04,679 --> 01:04:08,280
the whale Utani Corporation has worked on interstellar engines and

1406
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,239
their sites are now set on stars and colonization up above. Unfortunately,

1407
01:04:12,519 --> 01:04:14,800
the technology was fueled by a rare mineral that could

1408
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:19,280
only be mine in South Africa. So it focuses around

1409
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,039
a small group of human characters. A un peacekeeper, a

1410
01:04:22,039 --> 01:04:26,840
local tribal leader from a South African town. It is

1411
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:31,920
set near his son Macall. We have Devlin, the leader

1412
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,800
of a rebel group that is opposed to the whale

1413
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,840
Utani's increasing influence. The treatment begins when are you and

1414
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,840
peacekeeper Rena who travels to South Africa where she finds

1415
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:46,800
herself caught between I guess the local tribal leader and

1416
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:51,199
then the leader of the rebel group who's opposing whaleen Utani.

1417
01:04:52,039 --> 01:04:54,639
So there's tension there doing.

1418
01:04:54,440 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: It for so far this corporation in fighting is what

1419
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,440
I hear right now for alien versus.

1420
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 3: Predator Devlin's opposition of White New Tiny puts the tribal

1421
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,880
village in danger as the corporation reach grows. The villagers

1422
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,840
are aware that Devlin is also running a secret mina

1423
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,679
in a stockpit in the mineral that fuels Whale New

1424
01:05:14,719 --> 01:05:19,519
Twinese engineer plasma technology. A small number of his men

1425
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:22,440
have started to go missing in the mines, and unknown

1426
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:24,920
to them is that an alien hive has been established

1427
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,599
in the underground cave system by the alien queen from

1428
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:30,920
the first movie. She is here because global warming has

1429
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,880
had a large impact and melted the polar ice caps

1430
01:05:34,119 --> 01:05:36,559
and actually freed the queen from her frozen prisons, so

1431
01:05:36,599 --> 01:05:39,599
she eventually made a way to South Africa. Much of

1432
01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:43,079
the human action and drama comes when Waale New Chinese

1433
01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:46,719
private security force attacks the village. The survivors are forced

1434
01:05:46,719 --> 01:05:50,000
into the mines and the surrounding African jungle, where they

1435
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:52,840
encounter and are started by aliens and predators. So the

1436
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:57,679
predators are just there, the survivors attempt to get to

1437
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,719
their refugee. Their refuge a space ship that the rebel

1438
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,920
leader has been secretly building to escape from Earth, powered

1439
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,760
by the mineral us mining without the company's knowledge. He

1440
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,119
intended to use it to take his people off the

1441
01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:13,400
planet to escape the depression of the company. So a

1442
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:19,920
lot of infighting here. Yeah, we're still going. We're introduced

1443
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,519
to three predators that are featured what's going on here?

1444
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:30,039
A few paragraphs few, We're introduced to three predators drawn

1445
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:32,639
by the battle and folding between the human forces, described

1446
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:34,519
as twin Predators. They are armed with what would have

1447
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:37,960
been a unique new variation of the plasma cast fire

1448
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:40,400
small caliber plasma blast with a greater rate of fire

1449
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:47,159
and accuracy. Oh my goodness. Working together, twin Predators slaughter rebels,

1450
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,360
and then we get an infamous hive battle scene going

1451
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,800
on here. That's pretty cool, but I'll skip some here

1452
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,000
face huggers.

1453
01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:03,719
Speaker 1: So now even see why this treatment didn't make it,

1454
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,719
because I feel like it's pretty sounds like almost av

1455
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,840
P one where it's a group of people together they

1456
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,480
stumble upon the aliens up to something. The preadtors happen

1457
01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:13,599
to be there, like it's a it's the same movie

1458
01:07:13,639 --> 01:07:16,239
again almost for like, with a few changes.

1459
01:07:16,679 --> 01:07:19,159
Speaker 3: So as so it's backtracking as some of their people

1460
01:07:19,239 --> 01:07:21,920
are escaping to the alien minds. There's face huggers emerging

1461
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,199
near a watering hole where they find lions and they

1462
01:07:24,199 --> 01:07:27,199
impregnate the lions. So you get alien lion hybrids.

1463
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:27,719
Speaker 1: Cool.

1464
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:36,719
Speaker 3: They're ambushed, predators are taking trophies, Lion aliens are attacking

1465
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:42,159
them branch to branch some crazy ship. And then we

1466
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:47,400
get I'm trying to skip through a lot of this,

1467
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,840
because a lot of this is pretty heavy.

1468
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:52,519
Speaker 1: Uh, the predators of note left? Is there anything of

1469
01:07:52,639 --> 01:07:53,280
no left?

1470
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,119
Speaker 3: There is? There's one key thing I'm trying to I'm

1471
01:07:55,119 --> 01:07:59,159
trying to lead to that part. Uh. Predators work together

1472
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,320
fighting the quick queen has had from her eggsack. One

1473
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,119
of the predators is forced to found out the aliens.

1474
01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:07,719
The other is corn off by the queen. Queen tears

1475
01:08:07,719 --> 01:08:10,119
a predader in half before it dies, it pins himself

1476
01:08:10,119 --> 01:08:13,239
to the queen. The second predator, who's able to evade death,

1477
01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:20,800
sees that his brother is dying and retreats. The queen

1478
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,880
and the one predator go down a nuclear explosion. So

1479
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:28,199
there's that, dude, So here we go. The rebel leader

1480
01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:31,199
and the villager's son are able to escape on the spacecraft.

1481
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:33,840
The young boy is put into crowdsleep, but as traditional,

1482
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,039
the alien franchise is one final surprise. The Predator was

1483
01:08:37,079 --> 01:08:39,319
able to sneak onto the craft, as was a lone

1484
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:41,640
Alien and a Queen face hugger which we saw in

1485
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:42,399
Alien three.

1486
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: Oh Snuck on the Queen Alien snuck on the spacecraft.

1487
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 3: The Alien Predator are baiting traps for each other and invading

1488
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,279
other each other's traps. The battle comes to a heat

1489
01:08:52,359 --> 01:08:55,159
when Devilin finds both Extra treshis locked in combat near

1490
01:08:55,159 --> 01:08:58,600
the airlock and he attempts to jettison them both. The

1491
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,640
Alien gains the upper hand and throw the preddit towards

1492
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,119
the open door the vacuum, but the preyer is able

1493
01:09:02,119 --> 01:09:05,800
to gain momentum Uh or is the alien lose its

1494
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,119
own battle gainst rushing vacuums pulled towards the predator. Their

1495
01:09:08,119 --> 01:09:10,079
combind waight causes the net to be ripped from the

1496
01:09:10,079 --> 01:09:12,119
airlock and both of them go out into the void.

1497
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:13,039
Speaker 9: Uh.

1498
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 3: The boy's relief it's surviving the whole encounter short lived

1499
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,880
because you knows the predator removed his wrist nuke, an

1500
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:24,600
alien device is counting down. Uh. He ejects the some

1501
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,119
ship from the ship and that thing blows up and

1502
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:29,279
he's still on the ship.

1503
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 5: Shut the fuck.

1504
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 6: Okay, So he he goes in his cryo and then

1505
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,680
he wakes up being observed by space jockeys who are

1506
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:51,439
there to observe.

1507
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 1: They would have beaten, they would have beat fucking oh

1508
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,159
my god, they would have beat Sir Ridley Scott to

1509
01:09:58,199 --> 01:10:00,479
the engineers, you fucking yes.

1510
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 3: He wakes up the space shak he's there to watch

1511
01:10:04,039 --> 01:10:06,760
an alien come out of his chest and the thing

1512
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:11,079
is there, So the machinery comes down retrieve the zeno.

1513
01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:13,119
But then we learned that this is fading out to

1514
01:10:13,239 --> 01:10:16,119
the distress call sound of the Derelx spacecraft from the

1515
01:10:16,119 --> 01:10:19,600
first Alien movie. There you have.

1516
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,319
Speaker 1: You can feel the mana. You can feel the mana.

1517
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 5: I don't know the chills won.

1518
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: It works too Phil. So wait a second though, If

1519
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,399
it's like alluding to the ship of the first movie,

1520
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,720
is that like it was this movie going to take

1521
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,840
place in two thoy one whatever.

1522
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 3: This takes places twenty four, But it would have alluded

1523
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,600
to the ship crash. Remember we know the ship was

1524
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,159
crashed on it.

1525
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,039
Speaker 1: That's okay, that ship. Sorry they met Whickley's first ship.

1526
01:10:47,079 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, no, So this would set up a the

1527
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,880
first Alien, and this would basically mean that it's Yeah.

1528
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad they didn't get that far. And I think

1529
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,239
I could see why the pitch wasn't it was I'd.

1530
01:10:59,039 --> 01:11:01,279
Speaker 3: Say twenty twenty three, So I mean, you never know.

1531
01:11:01,319 --> 01:11:03,319
Speaker 1: But that's him just saying that was his treatment that

1532
01:11:03,319 --> 01:11:05,199
could have been went from whenever. That doesn't mean he

1533
01:11:05,279 --> 01:11:08,199
pitched it. I guarantee you. With them doing Prey and

1534
01:11:08,239 --> 01:11:10,079
all these moings, I think they're right now just trying

1535
01:11:10,079 --> 01:11:13,399
to get those franchises back to like people enjoy these

1536
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:14,319
things again, you know.

1537
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,039
Speaker 3: So you don't you didn't enjoy that?

1538
01:11:18,399 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 4: Really?

1539
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,399
Speaker 1: No, No, A little long in the tooth there. It

1540
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,159
just happened that the Queen just happened to end up

1541
01:11:23,159 --> 01:11:25,680
where these people were as well too. But I should

1542
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,439
try to remember it, maybe, Tay make it known your

1543
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,520
rankings you should get not now because we've got two

1544
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,560
casts record. You should make a chat GPT for Alien

1545
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,680
versus Predator three, not tonight, but you should put that

1546
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,159
in your notes and let's try and remember that for

1547
01:11:36,199 --> 01:11:37,039
the rankings next.

1548
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,239
Speaker 3: The originals or rankings.

1549
01:11:38,319 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said. Rankings episode the perfect time.

1550
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,880
Let's see here a VP recommend trivia. In the original script,

1551
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:53,840
the Pedalion was have to died before the prey, seeing

1552
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,239
for Dalien's spelled through me for fucking I'm not gonna lie.

1553
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,119
It was supposed to die just before the crash the

1554
01:12:00,119 --> 01:12:02,920
Presser ship when a the Preader kills it with its cannon,

1555
01:12:03,039 --> 01:12:06,079
which occurs on page three or four. A normal alien

1556
01:12:06,119 --> 01:12:10,159
would then kill the remaining predators and escape the rec

1557
01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:13,560
ship with several face huggers. It was rewritten to incorporate

1558
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,199
the bedalien of the movie and make it the main antagonist,

1559
01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:18,640
as the studio is very impressed with the concept. So

1560
01:12:19,079 --> 01:12:20,600
I'm something that would have been I would have been

1561
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,800
pissed if like even more so they tease this thing

1562
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,920
and then you know seen three to four, they just

1563
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,720
kill it off. That was I guess. An original script

1564
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,319
was just I think it was like the whole movie,

1565
01:12:30,319 --> 01:12:32,920
but just a regular alien that land like they land

1566
01:12:34,119 --> 01:12:36,960
the whole movie happens, except they're just regular aliens. I guess,

1567
01:12:37,239 --> 01:12:41,479
so very odd. I told yeah. Preditor was named Wolf

1568
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,439
after the Wolf and Paul fiction, So there you go.

1569
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:47,520
Danny Glover, who's Stern Predet, who was considered a Prizes

1570
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,199
role as Mike Harrigan, but he had as I now

1571
01:12:51,199 --> 01:12:54,920
retired cop, but that didn't happen. Bill Paxson was approached

1572
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,199
to play a Dier chief so he could appear in

1573
01:12:57,239 --> 01:12:59,600
the second Preader movie, the second Alien movie, in the

1574
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,399
second MVP movie, so the second each franchise. But yeah,

1575
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,039
but conflicts prevented him from making it. No. I think

1576
01:13:07,079 --> 01:13:10,680
the conflicts was a you know, of the brain of

1577
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,880
I don't know if I'm gonna do this, but because

1578
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,720
they was say, scheduling conflicts, just conflicts. After the controversial

1579
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,680
decision of the last film being PG thirteen, it was

1580
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,920
decided that in the early stage this movie rad r

1581
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,720
because it's what the fans of the series want, So

1582
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,479
you got that going on. It was planned to include

1583
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:28,760
and here you go to this might have been some

1584
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,479
of your well, I guess not with your treatment. But

1585
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,079
here's something that was close to tons a little bit

1586
01:13:33,079 --> 01:13:35,079
of that. It was a one time plan to include

1587
01:13:35,119 --> 01:13:38,000
shots of the aliens home world as a post credit scene.

1588
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,800
Art was created and was even storyboarded, but ultimately the

1589
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,279
idea was dropped in favor of using it for a

1590
01:13:43,319 --> 01:13:45,800
potential third film, So you go. There was another third

1591
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,520
film Taylor that we didn't even know about that was

1592
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,399
going to Aliens Home World. This never materialized was a

1593
01:13:50,399 --> 01:13:53,039
critical and commercial failure of the film, which is studio

1594
01:13:53,079 --> 01:13:59,359
decided to ban the franchise in a favorite prequels, Yeah, okay,

1595
01:13:59,399 --> 01:14:03,359
that's sorry, Stuffle Cover. In Prometheus, this is the first

1596
01:14:03,399 --> 01:14:05,680
and so far the only film in the series for

1597
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,439
the Zeno Wo War to make it to the suburban

1598
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,199
setting Amainst Town people. So I guess we'll have to

1599
01:14:10,199 --> 01:14:12,720
see again what Alien Earth is? I believe in No, Holly,

1600
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,399
I really don't think it's gonna be Aliens on Earth.

1601
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,000
I think it has more of a I don't know,

1602
01:14:19,279 --> 01:14:22,119
existential meaning, but we will see. I think this show's

1603
01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:24,399
come out next year. So we got that popping off

1604
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,000
after the movie. The bid alien is said to be

1605
01:14:27,039 --> 01:14:29,560
a young queen according to director. As they have said,

1606
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,640
it reproduces the way it does before it mature, is

1607
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,479
further and becomes a mobile. So I guess it does

1608
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,880
eventually become like the queens we know in Love, but

1609
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,399
at the beginning can pop off a few little alien babies.

1610
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,000
Let's see. This is the only film in franchise that

1611
01:14:44,039 --> 01:14:47,199
does not feature any eggs that hatch into face huggers.

1612
01:14:47,239 --> 01:14:48,920
So there you go. All the other alien films have

1613
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,439
some sort of eggs, but this one does not. At

1614
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,039
one point they were concerned to do this as three D,

1615
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:56,840
but they dropped it as it was too expensive and

1616
01:14:57,039 --> 01:14:59,119
the projection was too dark.

1617
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: There was a shot and I can't remember what it

1618
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,279
was now, but it was something flying at the camera

1619
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,039
that screamed me like, oh, that was definitely like four

1620
01:15:07,159 --> 01:15:09,800
or three version, and I can't maybe it was like

1621
01:15:10,119 --> 01:15:11,520
one of the thinkings or something.

1622
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 3: It's when Dallas is on the roof and he's like

1623
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,640
charging the gun. He's like fuck you, and he shoots

1624
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,520
the alien and the alien's head spins up.

1625
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: Right. That was one. Yes, Oh I hate that Dallas

1626
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:26,479
easily took out that one, but uh yeah, that's uh.

1627
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,800
I bet that's why that shot was in there. But

1628
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,520
I just love that they were like it might be

1629
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,439
too dark as well. So where way to go, cinematographer.

1630
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,880
You screwed yourself out of three D? But yeah, that's

1631
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,720
it for trivia, there wasn't much. There's a bunch of

1632
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,920
stuff built suits and everything. But I will go first

1633
01:15:42,079 --> 01:15:43,960
because I don't fous little than me. I will scot

1634
01:15:44,079 --> 01:15:46,159
a bit lower than Alien versus I'll give this a

1635
01:15:46,279 --> 01:15:48,680
point five. There's still enough for me not to give

1636
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,720
this a zero, but last week was one. This is

1637
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,239
a point five. You know, I like the pretty Alien.

1638
01:15:53,359 --> 01:15:55,640
There's a couple of fun little subversions. I like they

1639
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,800
went they went for it, darkness, they went for it.

1640
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,119
Just wish it was in a better film, and and

1641
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,760
that was about it. And yeah, if I have my

1642
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,479
brothers my choice, I'll never need to watch this again.

1643
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,520
And I do not think AVP it could get worse,

1644
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,039
but it somehow did here. So yeah, point five out

1645
01:16:13,039 --> 01:16:14,039
of ten for me.

1646
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 2: I'll go three point seven five. I think I gave

1647
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,640
the first one six what was all said and done,

1648
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,079
But so this had a few things that were kind

1649
01:16:24,079 --> 01:16:26,760
of enjoyable, but it's it's bad, not good.

1650
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 5: Not gonna watch it again. Ever, I think.

1651
01:16:32,039 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 4: I think it might go four point two on this one,

1652
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:37,279
not even a quarter.

1653
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 5: I think three scores combined are gonna equal Taylor's score.

1654
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 3: I am gonna give it a nine out of ten.

1655
01:16:48,079 --> 01:16:49,680
I'm not gonna give it a full ten to ten

1656
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:54,279
because the darkness factor it does pull me out. That's

1657
01:16:54,319 --> 01:16:59,119
really the only major thing. I freaking love this movie though,

1658
01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:02,479
holy shit, I will I'll definitely watch it again this year.

1659
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,279
It's just such as it's just a great yeh, Like

1660
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:10,479
I feel like it's just yeah, god damn, it's great.

1661
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,880
It's a great movie. It's not perfect, but it's just

1662
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:14,960
great for how crazy it is and how bold that

1663
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,159
they decide to take certain directions just with the killing

1664
01:17:18,199 --> 01:17:20,079
and just the stories and the sceneries and everything that

1665
01:17:20,079 --> 01:17:22,880
they just dive into. I feel like it's a fan

1666
01:17:23,039 --> 01:17:26,399
film concept that it's just been given a real Hollywood budget,

1667
01:17:26,399 --> 01:17:28,039
so it doesn't feel like it's a fan film. But

1668
01:17:28,079 --> 01:17:32,760
it's just this is so wonky to get like Suburbia, Predator,

1669
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,319
Aliens going crazy, and I just I eat this movie

1670
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,680
up and it's a nostalgic kick for me, just like

1671
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,439
the first one is so nice.

1672
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: There you go. So, ladies, gentlemen, that is it for

1673
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,279
this next week, you will be getting Prometheus, where we

1674
01:17:47,319 --> 01:17:50,239
go back to the beginning. How do we all get here?

1675
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,439
And how do they deconize these movies? But enjoy that,

1676
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,359
and I promise you it'll not be boring.

1677
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:57,159
Speaker 2: Yep.

1678
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: But