Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you Easy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3: All right, we're talking about coyotes. We spoke during the
Speaker 3: ten o'clock hour. There were several coyotes sightings in the
Speaker 3: town of Brookline, Massachusetts, which it's Brookline is a separate town,
Speaker 3: but for those of you who are listening in other
Speaker 3: parts of the country, it is almost surrounded by Boston.
Speaker 3: I mean, when you're in Brookline, you're as close to
Speaker 3: being in Boston without being in Boston as you can be.
Speaker 3: So if there are coyotes in Brookline, there are coyotes
Speaker 3: in Boston as well. And I think we've got to
Speaker 3: the point here in New England, at least in the
Speaker 3: Greater Boston, it is time for us to start to
Speaker 3: relocate these coyotes and get them back to central and
Speaker 3: western Massachusetts. Now some of you might agree with that,
Speaker 3: some of you might disagree with that.
Speaker 1: That's what this is all about. I'm concerned. We had
Speaker 1: a caller at the end Lauren last hour, who talked
Speaker 1: about the scarcity of coyote attacks. They are imposing animals.
Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. So I'm going to just
Speaker 1: open up the phone lines. We have one line at
Speaker 1: six months seven two, five, four ten thirty one line
Speaker 1: at six month seven nine three one ten thirty. Our coyotes.
Speaker 1: We talked last hour to John in New York. He
Speaker 1: said that he sees coyotes where he lives. Mark is
Speaker 1: an Austin which is part of Boston, says he sees coyotes.
Speaker 1: Patty and Wellesley, which is a suburb of Boston, said
Speaker 1: that she saw a fox tonight run in front of
Speaker 1: her car. Rachel h is an advocate for coyotes, and
Speaker 1: I think she was in effect opposed to my plan
Speaker 1: to relocate them. She feels that they were here first. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine, you know so so so weren't dinosaurs, but
Speaker 1: that's here to there. Uh so, let's let's just get
Speaker 1: going here six one, seven two, five four to ten
Speaker 1: thirty one line there six months, seven nine three one,
Speaker 1: ten thirty. We're going to go to Alex and Millis.
Speaker 1: I got to believe that coyotes and mill in mill Is, Alex,
Speaker 1: how are you?
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, absolutely so. I haven't seen one in a while,
Speaker 4: but I was walking my fifty five pound golden duo Apollo.
Speaker 4: This It would be around the same time last year.
Speaker 4: And we live on a scenic road, so in the
Speaker 4: woods what my dog goes ballistic? He was pulling me
Speaker 4: and the coyotes. It was a coyote. It stood for
Speaker 4: a few minutes like froze, and then it took off.
Speaker 4: But I would describe it as an emaciated German shepherd
Speaker 4: because it was like, you know, they're not they're not
Speaker 4: what do you called. They seem to be on the
Speaker 4: anorexic side, but.
Speaker 1: They're probably not eating as well as.
Speaker 4: As you would make And and you know the other
Speaker 4: day I did run into two deers actually almost like
Speaker 4: you know, they they came out of nowhere, and I
Speaker 4: you know, I stopped in time. But uh, so you.
Speaker 1: Were driving, I mean you were you were driving? I
Speaker 1: was driving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, well yeah, we uh actually, uh the
Speaker 4: only other thing I saw was there was a there
Speaker 4: was a bunch of foxes. There was a dinner foxes,
Speaker 4: uh in one of our neighbors in the back of
Speaker 4: his shed and their dog was going, you know, going
Speaker 4: over there. But they somehow relocated. But there were like five.
Speaker 1: So what would you do with kind? So do you
Speaker 1: do you think Kita's were a problem here in you know,
Speaker 1: in the inside of four ninety five. You're obviously in millers,
Speaker 1: so you're not inside one twenty eight. Yeah, they have problem.
Speaker 1: Would you relocate them or no?
Speaker 4: I would relocate them, but I'd say I would be
Speaker 4: more afraid of the two legged kinyoes, if you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, because you know they won't bother you
Speaker 4: that much. I don't. I don't think they'll bother you.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough? Well we Uh, I think
Speaker 1: it's time to say that, mister wiley coyote. Uh, we've
Speaker 1: seen enough of you. It's time for you to leave.
Speaker 1: We're going to get you into some areas in the
Speaker 1: state where you'd be more than welcome. I just think
Speaker 1: that it's it's I don't want to see a coyote
Speaker 1: in my yard there, and I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people there. There are people in the hot We
Speaker 1: did stories in this year ago. They were very concerned
Speaker 1: about it. But there were people up here saying, oh, no,
Speaker 1: we want the coyotes. I want to hear from some
Speaker 1: people who want to tell me they want the coyotes
Speaker 1: as well. I'd love to know why.
Speaker 4: Oh, one quick thing, Dan, Yeah, I put in I
Speaker 4: put in some vegetables, you know, raised race fawer beds.
Speaker 4: And there's this rabbit. But I don't think it's attracted
Speaker 4: to the tomatoes. But I'm just wondering, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: and I'm talking about a big rabbit. It looks almost
Speaker 4: like a like an overgrown cat, and it just just
Speaker 4: keeps coming near, you know, near our law and all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 1: Well, if I were con your suggestion, I'd go with
Speaker 1: the two iron.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, two eye is more effective in my opinion.
Speaker 1: No, don't don't hurt the rabbit, not at all, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, feed them, give them some carrots. They love carrots. Okay, thanks, Alex,
Speaker 1: I gotta go. Okay, Yeah, bringing the rabbit in here,
Speaker 1: that's good. We'll talk about whatever. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: relocate the rabbits, okay, let's just talk about coyotes. Gonna
Speaker 1: relocate the coyotes. I got a couple of lines at
Speaker 1: six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty one
Speaker 1: and six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Everybody
Speaker 1: says to me, you talk too much politics. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna talk politics, Okay, We're just gonna talk coyotes. Uh,
Speaker 1: have you seen a coyote in your neck of the woods,
Speaker 1: in your neighborhood. Are you worried about them or are
Speaker 1: you ready to live with them? Simple as that there
Speaker 1: are people out there probably like them. I don't. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: let's relocate them. I don't want to be neither to them.
Speaker 1: Let's relocate them. Send them to New Hampshire. Of them
Speaker 1: on or western Massachusetts. Get them out of eastern massache us.
Speaker 1: That's my thought. Love to hear from you. You call
Speaker 1: me cruel, but you know, just call me. We'll be
Speaker 1: back on night Side after this.
Speaker 2: Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm w B Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep rolling. We got full lines again.
Speaker 1: I like that. Let's go to Laura Laura Junior in
Speaker 1: Lynn Laura Jr. Welcome back.
Speaker 5: How are you hey?
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 5: I'm nice to hear from you. Dan. I wish your
Speaker 5: true happiness as well as all your listeners. Glennon Brighton,
Speaker 5: I was in in Portland, ME. I don't know why.
Speaker 5: Want she called always think about Jim Brady. I don't
Speaker 5: know why. But also one of my favorite callers. I
Speaker 5: think his name is Joe. He sounds like David or cheez.
Speaker 5: I think you know, you might know who exact I know.
Speaker 1: I know Joe. Joe's a great good friend. By the way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a true instivation to me. I'm half Spanish myself,
Speaker 5: and I looked up to him. I was born here,
Speaker 5: but I'm trying to learn Spanish. But I feel scared,
Speaker 5: but I look up to him. He's a true inspiration
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 1: Good. How do you feel about coyotes?
Speaker 5: Skin them? I totally totally agree with you about you
Speaker 5: saying you want to remocate them. Totally agree. And I'm
Speaker 5: not surprised that they're in Brookline because I used to
Speaker 5: walk near there. I used to work at one of
Speaker 5: your competitive radio stations in Brighton, and I used to
Speaker 5: see wild turkeys like crossing the street. So I'm not
Speaker 5: I'm not to process see kyotes. Another another one that
Speaker 5: I wish that wasn't around. And you might laugh at this.
Speaker 5: One of my biggest fires, Dan is dragonflies. That's my
Speaker 5: biggest fires.
Speaker 1: Dragonflies. I don't think they bite you. I did a
Speaker 1: lot of insects. I don't like wasps. I don't like
Speaker 1: any of those things. But do they bite the dragonflies?
Speaker 5: No, No, they don't. They they're harmless. They're good because
Speaker 5: they eat wasps, but they eat mosquitoes the eb so
Speaker 5: they're good for us, but for me, the big me
Speaker 5: and a scary worker. So I wish they could be I.
Speaker 1: Was Warri.
Speaker 5: Kirlees. Yes, very scared of them. I would not want to.
Speaker 5: I never saw them here up here and Lynn, thank god,
Speaker 5: but they I guess, Oh you.
Speaker 1: Got him in, Lynn, Laura, j you got him and
Speaker 1: Lynn trust me on that. I mean they have him
Speaker 1: over in the high They got him in, hid, you
Speaker 1: got him in and trust me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank god. I've never seeing them, and I don't
Speaker 5: want to feel them. I like to keep it that way.
Speaker 5: I thought I saw wild turkey, said to last summer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're around. Wild turkeys have made a big comeback.
Speaker 1: Don't mess with wild turkeys, particularly two or three of them.
Speaker 1: They'll come at you, Lawland. I'm hoping Joe's listening tonight,
Speaker 1: because Joe's a great guy. I'm sure he will have
Speaker 1: loved to have heard what you had to say.
Speaker 5: Mostly, keep on the work there, have a go on you.
Speaker 1: Too, low, don't be stranger. Okay, thanks, Match, We keep
Speaker 1: rolling here. We're gonna get everybody caught up. Robin Medforday, Rob,
Speaker 1: you're next night side. Welcome.
Speaker 2: Hi Dan, Thank you, sir. I'd like to thank you.
Speaker 2: I'd like to offer a few observations, some information right ahead, Okay,
Speaker 2: as recently as nineteen fifty six, if you were to
Speaker 2: go ninety three north from Boston to Wellington Circle, there
Speaker 2: was no highway there. There was a little shallow pond
Speaker 2: and there was a stream that came down from Pine Hill.
Speaker 2: Now that stream has since been put underground. And at
Speaker 2: about the urban wildlife, I see a possum comes out
Speaker 2: of the sewer. They've just relocated. They're still around. There's
Speaker 2: a possum that comes out, crosses the street around one
Speaker 2: thirty in the morning, goes down the other sewer. I've
Speaker 2: seen coyote around, but it's not to worry. If you
Speaker 2: just see one coyote. If there is a bunch of them,
Speaker 2: get your flashlight out.
Speaker 1: Okay, someone else mentioned that. By the way, someone else
Speaker 1: mentioned that's good to know they.
Speaker 2: Will not only yes, they're frightened that that works.
Speaker 6: That was a great Oh.
Speaker 2: And also let me say the man with the tomato
Speaker 2: is tomato leaves the poisonous to rabbits, so he's not
Speaker 2: to worry about his tomatoes with a rabbit. Now out
Speaker 2: here in Medford, I'm seven miles north of Boston, near
Speaker 2: Wellington Circle. I've seen coyote only one at a time,
Speaker 2: and I checked with the wildlife folks and they said, oh, yes,
Speaker 2: they're familiar down at Actually I don't want to say
Speaker 2: where they're living, but they actually know where. There's a
Speaker 2: den of at least a few living in Medford down
Speaker 2: towards the river, and they don't really bother anybody. But
Speaker 2: I have also noted in the area there's red and
Speaker 2: white sail hawks. There are turkeys around. The males can
Speaker 2: be very AGGRESSI in the springtime because they're trying to
Speaker 2: show off. People should beware that. Back in nineteen fifty
Speaker 2: six when this was like I said, that stream and
Speaker 2: that little pond where Wellington's, where Roosevelt Circle is, we
Speaker 2: had five hundred beers in Massachusetts. That population has increased
Speaker 2: to about eighty five hundred bears in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about that the other night, and they're
Speaker 1: going to increase in two thousand and six, they're going
Speaker 1: to increase the amount of time that people can hunt bears.
Speaker 1: The fella from mass Wildlife the other day said it
Speaker 1: was about five thousand bears and they want to keep
Speaker 1: the population stable. They're not looking to reduce it dramatically,
Speaker 1: but they need to stop its growth. According to I
Speaker 1: think the fellow we had is Dave Waddles from Mass Wildlife.
Speaker 2: Great guy. I've also seen gear rabbits in the area, chipmunks,
Speaker 2: squirrels and and skunks and porcupines, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: I have some some cardinals, I think, and the fox
Speaker 2: occasional fox. But basically not to worry it if you
Speaker 2: come across. I mean I worry it now, even just
Speaker 2: letting I have a little a little dog that I
Speaker 2: don't want them to be out. You know, you never know.
Speaker 2: They are capable of snatching. Even the hawks are able
Speaker 2: to snatch a little dog.
Speaker 1: So but.
Speaker 2: A question to you, Dan, is there an abundance of
Speaker 2: skunks in Washington.
Speaker 7: D C.
Speaker 1: Yes they are. There are a lot of skunks in Washington,
Speaker 1: D C. And many of them had the letter D
Speaker 1: or R associated with their name.
Speaker 2: Now, can the coyotes maybe come and eat the Boston rats?
Speaker 1: That was that would be a real purpose. I would
Speaker 1: welcome the coyote and that way they could dine, they
Speaker 1: could dine in the rats. Very interesting, Rob, Rob, there
Speaker 1: was a very creative call. I really have to say,
Speaker 1: hats off. You're one of the the excellent callers of
Speaker 1: the night. I do appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, god bless you, sir. I'm gonna need a
Speaker 2: bigger hat.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not a problem. You just keep working, working
Speaker 1: and call the show more often. Okay, thank you very much,
Speaker 1: appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks a great night.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get good night. We'll get one more in here,
Speaker 1: but maybe one or two more in here. Let me
Speaker 1: go next to Brad and Lynn. Second call it from
Speaker 1: Linda this hour. Hey Brad, have you seen any coyotes
Speaker 1: in Lynn? Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, all the time. They're everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I was trying to convince Laura Junior.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping he's still listening.
Speaker 6: I actually I was in when I called it live
Speaker 6: in hont actually.
Speaker 1: And oh you had a lot of them in the
Speaker 1: hont Yeah.
Speaker 6: I called him a couple of years ago when it
Speaker 6: had the shop shooting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever happened to that. But whatever happened to that,
Speaker 1: did they uh did did they eliminate that population?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: They they suddenly one family suddenly went away, and then
Speaker 6: another family suddenly went away, and then there was just
Speaker 6: like maybe I think one of I don't know, there
Speaker 6: was only a couple left. I still see them all
Speaker 6: the time, but not like.
Speaker 1: So they weren't they weren't taken out then by sharpshooters.
Speaker 1: They they left it. They wrote a chord.
Speaker 6: Oh no, they were blasted. They set up a thing
Speaker 6: down the dump and they had a federal protection order
Speaker 6: and stuff at a federal plate. And I want to say
Speaker 6: that the truck was from the Midwest. I think that
Speaker 6: came in here.
Speaker 1: So there was action take bottom.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They blasted him
Speaker 6: right in the dump and but oh yeah, unfortunately all
Speaker 6: were left with There's a lot of rotors, we got
Speaker 6: a lot of mice, we got a lot of rats.
Speaker 6: We've got a bunch of overpopulated with the rabbits. Because
Speaker 6: the coyotes killed the scarms, the squirrels, I don't know
Speaker 6: whatever else was out here. The foxes, you know, they
Speaker 6: killed all that stuff because they were the apex predators.
Speaker 6: So now that man took out, we took out them
Speaker 6: and uh and all the other you know, squirrels and
Speaker 6: you know, the skarms and the other things. They're off
Speaker 6: back in town eating the things. The raccoons. I mean,
Speaker 6: I haven't seen a raccoon out here in years now,
Speaker 6: and uh they used to be. Yeah.
Speaker 8: But yeah.
Speaker 6: As a sad note though, too, as we're seeing is
Speaker 6: like like because we've got a lot more rats and
Speaker 6: rolled into mice and the little you know, ground creatures
Speaker 6: running around, people put out the traps and they bade them.
Speaker 6: And then we also got a lot of eagles and
Speaker 6: hawks and stuff around. You have a flying and people
Speaker 6: are saying those are getting sick again. So I don't know,
Speaker 6: we was getting kind of it's like the kuy And
Speaker 6: that brings back to your point, whatever your barometer was
Speaker 6: in Easter ninety three. I mean, there's got to be
Speaker 6: something to be done because I mean, all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: you had that family here like what three four years ago,
Speaker 6: just eating everything out of sight.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, I remember that story in the Haunt, and
Speaker 1: it was interesting. Half the town seemed to want to
Speaker 1: get rid of them, and half the town wanted to
Speaker 1: keep them.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I just think that I.
Speaker 6: Mean, if you had your cat and your dog, you know,
Speaker 6: you want to get rid of them. If you don't
Speaker 6: have an animal you have, you're probably like, you know,
Speaker 6: don't see him out of sight, out of mind. But
Speaker 6: you know, okay, I mean I used to see him
Speaker 6: every day. I mean I saw nine of them, ten
Speaker 6: of them walk by me when I was outside one day.
Speaker 1: That would be a little frightening when when they were
Speaker 1: in that much of a pack. I've heard them when
Speaker 1: they when they kill at night. I have coyotes near
Speaker 1: where I live and during the summertime when the windows
Speaker 1: are open and they have to kill at two o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning, it's wild. I mean they just y.
Speaker 6: I heard one a couple of weeks ago. I jumped
Speaker 6: out out I could have whichever one was outside my
Speaker 6: window screamed, and then the other one, I don't know
Speaker 6: wherever it was, screamed. And it's usually only two of them,
Speaker 6: but they make it starm like there's like fifty of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's frightening, It's absolutely fine.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but all right, well, well I'm sure we'll have
Speaker 6: something other issue to to ten without here, But now
Speaker 6: now it's rated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a problem. That is a problem, man, and
Speaker 1: that's got to get out of control.
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean I see them walk by me all the time.
Speaker 1: It's you know, I don't know, they're they're pretty ugly.
Speaker 1: And well, I would hope that they could, that they
Speaker 1: could put out some sort of poison to deal with
Speaker 1: the rats.
Speaker 6: And well, we have all the rocks and the sea
Speaker 6: walls and the seaweeds and the little voids and the
Speaker 6: crags and whatnot, and they love it high tide they
Speaker 6: come in here, stuff you know that gets washed in.
Speaker 6: And they just said, oh, you could sit out there
Speaker 6: at low tide and watch them walk around all night long.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to do that, but I understand. I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess it's very but they should have they should
Speaker 1: they should have some sort of way to get rid
Speaker 1: of rats. I mean, because that's that will destroy your city.
Speaker 1: That will destroy your city.
Speaker 6: We did before it was like, you know, the we
Speaker 6: had enough ractoons and squirrels and you knowsconsor you know
Speaker 6: whatever was eating whatever, and maybe the birds. But now,
Speaker 6: I mean, since since they're all gone and the balances shifted.
Speaker 1: I got you.
Speaker 6: I got it on the little island out there.
Speaker 1: Brad, Thank you very much. It's a beautiful place in
Speaker 1: lind It really is a beautiful place to hunt.
Speaker 6: Lynn Marble, it has marble at Neck, Lynn has Linen Neck.
Speaker 6: They just gave it a different name.
Speaker 1: I got you, I got you. Beg you, Brad, talk
Speaker 1: to you, sir, have a great night, Okay, don't want
Speaker 1: to short jury and change anyone to get Laurie coming
Speaker 1: up on the other side, Christine and Matt if you'd
Speaker 1: like to join the conversation, I have a line at
Speaker 1: six one seven, two, five four ten thirty and one
Speaker 1: A six one seven nine three one ten thirty. Have
Speaker 1: you seen coyotes in your neighborhood? And folks, if you're
Speaker 1: out there and outside of New England, I'd love to
Speaker 1: know if it's a problem where you are, because we
Speaker 1: have all of a sudden found out that there are
Speaker 1: coyotes in Brookline, Massachusetts. And Brookline, Massachusetts is as suburban
Speaker 1: a community as you could name. I mean, it's the
Speaker 1: equivalent of I guess Chevy Chase, Maryland or whatever the
Speaker 1: nice suburbs are around any any major American city. But
Speaker 1: it's people are concerned in Brookline, and I say it's
Speaker 1: time to start relocating coyotes away from Boston and may
Speaker 1: be away from where you live as well, better left
Speaker 1: to know if it's a problem. We'd be back on Nightside, Laurie.
Speaker 1: We'll lead it off on the other side, coming back
Speaker 1: right after this.
Speaker 9: Brookline police are telling the public to be on alert
Speaker 9: after they say coyotes attacked to dog Monday night. CBS
Speaker 9: News Boston reports that investigators say brazen behavior from coyotes
Speaker 9: is being spotted more and more around Brookline.
Speaker 1: Please say.
Speaker 9: The two coyotes emerged from a wooded area and attacked
Speaker 9: a dog in the Sergeant Beechwood area while it was
Speaker 9: on a walk. Neighbors say they've been seeing coyotes for years,
Speaker 9: but now they don't seem to be afraid of humans.
Speaker 9: I'm Dan Watkins.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio. They get Dan Watkins. That's exactly what we're
Speaker 1: talking about tonight here on Nightside. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: that we'll get this story in the Globe. Says during
Speaker 1: the Monday incident, the owner was able to free the
Speaker 1: dog and escape the area. Police did not release the
Speaker 1: exact address of the attack. H So we're just talking
Speaker 1: about Brookline, but if you know the boss An area,
Speaker 1: you know Brookline. Let me go to Laurie in Idaho.
Speaker 1: She knows the Boston area, but she knows Idaho. I
Speaker 1: will bet you you have more than coyotes in your neighborhood, Laurie.
Speaker 4: Oh, we do. And I just will say quickly that
Speaker 4: when I was living in Massachusetts, that's when they started coming.
Speaker 4: People in Westwood and Chelmsford started seeing them during the day.
Speaker 4: And that was fifteen years ago anyway, So it's they've
Speaker 4: been working their way east. But they are much larger
Speaker 4: in the Northeast than they are at least here and
Speaker 4: maybe other parts of the country. So they are the
Speaker 4: biggest predator on the block. So it makes them very
Speaker 4: brazen and very I don't like them. I can't stand
Speaker 4: the yip parties. So we do have them out here.
Speaker 1: They are ye, the yip party, even when they have
Speaker 1: a kill you made.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, that horrible, annoying chorus of just it's creepy,
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I can't see it.
Speaker 1: Are they aggressive? Or if you were walking down the
Speaker 1: road somewhere where you live and a coyote came out
Speaker 1: of the woods, would they confront you or would they.
Speaker 2: Show Here's the thing.
Speaker 4: I've never seen them except baby in the headlights at
Speaker 4: night because they are hunted by the wolves in the mountain,
Speaker 4: lions and the golden eagles. So they are much more
Speaker 4: timid out here. There were nowhere near brazen. You hear
Speaker 4: their parties out in the woods or out not even
Speaker 4: in the woods. You can hear them from downtown, but
Speaker 4: I have not seen one in the daylight out here ever.
Speaker 1: Wow, well, the the reverse is true here. We just
Speaker 1: had a spate of sightings in Brookline. And of course
Speaker 1: what happens now is there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: who have cameras on their home, so therefore you wouldn't
Speaker 1: have had that twenty years ago, so someone would have said, oh,
Speaker 1: I saw a coyote last night. Now you can they
Speaker 1: go to the videotape.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're the biggest predator in the neighborhood. There's nobody,
Speaker 4: you know, around where they're living that goes after them
Speaker 4: except for humans hunters. So they're brazen and they're brave
Speaker 4: out here. They're timid because they're afraid they're going to
Speaker 4: get caught by a mountain lioner or a golden eagle overhead.
Speaker 4: They will go eagle will pick up a coyote and
Speaker 4: take off with it. So they're timid out here because
Speaker 4: they have true apex predators around them.
Speaker 1: So an eagle can pick up a coyote. It looks
Speaker 1: to me like gold the.
Speaker 4: Golden eagles bigger than a bald eagle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know your your predators and you're
Speaker 1: a neck of the woods out there. That's that's for sure. Well,
Speaker 1: I just think we need to trap them and relocate them.
Speaker 1: I'm aging to go shoot them or kill them. I
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. Then kind of get them
Speaker 1: out of here because they will take over our neighborhoods
Speaker 1: here and the people they will. It's a very tolerant community,
Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying. And there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of uh hue and cry from Brookline residents. We
Speaker 1: had a woman on last hour, Nicole Roberts, who seems
Speaker 1: like a really nice woman. I you know, I feel
Speaker 1: for them, It's as simple as.
Speaker 8: That I do.
Speaker 4: And I don't like them. I don't like them at all.
Speaker 4: I can't stand them. I'm very grateful that I've never
Speaker 4: seen them out here, but I used to see them
Speaker 4: in New England and I I just.
Speaker 1: Think it's interesting that of all the places in the
Speaker 1: world where I assume coyotes would be fairly prevalent, it
Speaker 1: would be a place like Idaho.
Speaker 4: But you may they are, but we don't see them
Speaker 4: because they're scared of the people that they are pray for.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're out here.
Speaker 4: You can hear them, you just don't see them.
Speaker 1: But the predators, the predators that the coyotes in Idaho
Speaker 1: are afraid of, are not predators that go after humans.
Speaker 4: Not generally. I mean, this is the one thing you
Speaker 4: have to worry about with a kina. This is the
Speaker 4: other thing that's concerning about nine is rabies.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 4: So if you're yell and howl and do the airhorn
Speaker 4: and they don't run away, you probably should be concerned
Speaker 4: because they might be sick. But no, we've never had no,
Speaker 4: we don't get wolf attacks or mountain lions. They're in
Speaker 4: the woods. You see them. But if you if you
Speaker 4: behave yourself, they don't bother you. But they're out there.
Speaker 1: Well, you have struck a balance of nature in Idaho.
Speaker 1: That probably for us. For someone from New England, probably
Speaker 1: you learned a lot while out there. I hope Laurie
Speaker 1: loved you.
Speaker 4: I learned it, but I still have got in the window.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what you that's what you've learned. That's that's
Speaker 1: a valuable lesson. Lauren, love your Paul. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We'll talk later. Thank you, good night all. Just keep
Speaker 1: rolling here. I'm going to go to uh, Matt Is
Speaker 1: in Brighton. Matt, what's going on? I assume you probably
Speaker 1: have more rats in Brighton than you have coyotes.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, no, we got we got it all. Definitely
Speaker 11: more rats. You know. I grew up originally in Newton,
Speaker 11: lived down south in Florida and never saw any coyotes.
Speaker 11: But in Newton they're all over. And here's the thing.
Speaker 11: Then there's some of them are called kyo wolves, which
Speaker 11: is a hybrid between a coyote, a wolf, an Eastern wolf,
Speaker 11: and a domestic dog. So some man, these things are
Speaker 11: getting up to fifty pounds and they're quite big. It's
Speaker 11: gonna happen more up north in the main area, but
Speaker 11: they've definitely come into the area around Newton and stuff.
Speaker 11: I live in Brighton. I haven't seen a coyote in Brighton.
Speaker 2: But I had.
Speaker 11: One of those doorbell cams, but I use it as
Speaker 11: a trail camera, and I set it up in my
Speaker 11: backyard in Newton, and every night, I swear after April
Speaker 11: when they mate, and I wouldn't get birth the females
Speaker 11: to their pups. I would always catch one a camera
Speaker 11: around four am, and I hear them quite a bit.
Speaker 11: So they need to get moved out. It's unfortunate because
Speaker 11: of you know, they're too comfortable with humans. They will
Speaker 11: pick off a dog right in front of its owner,
Speaker 11: especially the small ones. And they're getting big. They're getting big, and.
Speaker 1: Well, I told her last hour. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you were listening, but for the audience that wasn't listening
Speaker 1: last hour. We moved into our neighborhood here this is
Speaker 1: going to be twenty years ago. We were warned about
Speaker 1: the presence of coyotes and a neighbor of ours, who
Speaker 1: was a very smart, athletic woman, had been gardening and
Speaker 1: she had a small dog in her yard off leash,
Speaker 1: I believe, and a coyote came out and grabbed the dog.
Speaker 1: And this is twenty years ago. She chased the coyote
Speaker 1: and was able to save the dog. She basically got
Speaker 1: the dog out of the coyotes mouth. This is a
Speaker 1: brave woman. She spent eight thousand dollars eight thousand dollars
Speaker 1: in surgery to repair the dog. A year later, once again,
Speaker 1: she's gardening in her backyard. The dog is there and
Speaker 1: another coyote or the same coyote came out, grabbed the
Speaker 1: dog and this time never saw the dog again.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I mean, one unfortunate part is miss I in when
Speaker 11: my I have a black lab and she was a puppy.
Speaker 11: This is you know, probably in twenty twenty three or so,
Speaker 11: I had one that was coming up to it. It
Speaker 11: was dark out, but it was coming up to me
Speaker 11: and it wasn't a third. It didn't fully approach me,
Speaker 11: but it got with intense fifteen feet. You know, if
Speaker 11: I don't want to say, you know, on the air,
Speaker 11: what I would do, you know for protection wise legally,
Speaker 11: but you can't even go after these coyotes. Mass wildlife,
Speaker 11: you know, doesn't want to recognize that there's you know,
Speaker 11: kyo wolves and hybrids and stuff like that, and it's
Speaker 11: harassment of the coyote to defend it. Basically, Well, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know that I would suggest that.
Speaker 11: When I called them no.
Speaker 1: But I'm suggesting that pepper spray is legal now in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: I don't even think you need.
Speaker 11: I'm not talking pepper spray, but I hear you.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying that you need something. And I
Speaker 1: think women who are out at night should have pepper
Speaker 1: spray because I think I think it's legal. I don't
Speaker 1: even think you need an f I D card they
Speaker 1: used to need. But I think we were the last
Speaker 1: state in the Union to make pepper spray easily accessible
Speaker 1: and legal. And I just think that if you have it,
Speaker 1: and if you know how to use it, and if
Speaker 1: it's a windy night, make sure that you're not you know,
Speaker 1: got to have a spray and blow back in your face.
Speaker 1: But on a minimal there's no great wind. If something
Speaker 1: came at you, whether it was a you know, a
Speaker 1: coyote or any animal, I think that would disable them.
Speaker 1: So that's my thought. Someone to be a ball by it.
Speaker 1: But I think we've got to protect human beings and
Speaker 1: family pets before coyotes, in my opinion. I know not
Speaker 1: everyone will agree. If they don't, feel free to give
Speaker 1: us a call. Matt, I've got a schoo here. We'll
Speaker 1: let you go. Thank you man, talk soon. Thanks for
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Falling in. Let me get Christine in here. Hi, Chris,
Speaker 1: how are you tonight? Welcome?
Speaker 12: Good?
Speaker 1: You got any Christine? You got any I know you
Speaker 1: got Christine's. Do you got any coyotes in your neck
Speaker 1: of the woods?
Speaker 12: I do, we do.
Speaker 4: Oh. Oh, it's awful. And that a.
Speaker 12: Couple of years ago. We were all outside walking and
Speaker 12: during the day, and we have a neighbors. They killed
Speaker 12: the neighbor's sense and they went after this little dog.
Speaker 12: The poor dog didn't make it. Oh, it was awful see.
Speaker 13: It and hearing it.
Speaker 1: You heard you heard? You heard that attack?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah. And and the dog, the dog was
Speaker 1: helpless to defend him herself.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you remember what what breed it was that that
Speaker 1: was killed.
Speaker 12: They said it was a you know, they got like
Speaker 12: the fluffy ears.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Oh, they're beautiful dogs, cocker span those dogs.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, my feeling is we got to allow that. People
Speaker 1: should be able to trap them or have the authorities
Speaker 1: trap them and get them out of here.
Speaker 12: Have you seen them in Rockford? They're traveling in past
Speaker 12: I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised.
Speaker 12: You know, we've had around two we have here. Fisher cats. Oh,
Speaker 12: it's awful.
Speaker 1: Oh, fisher cats are nasty. Nasty. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever confronted a fisher cat, but I'm told that is
Speaker 1: a nasty animal, even nastier than coyotes. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a minor league baseball team up in New Hampshire the
Speaker 1: I think it's the Toronto Blue Jays, a double A
Speaker 1: team in Manchester called the Manchester fisher Cats. A lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know what a fisher cat is, but
Speaker 1: that is a nasty, nasty animal to confront. Oh god.
Speaker 12: Couple a couple of weeks ago, I was leaving the
Speaker 12: German Center and this turkey was out front, and I'm
Speaker 12: like thinking, oh, no, big thing. Well, the things started
Speaker 12: chasing me, and I'm like what do I do? I Like,
Speaker 12: I was like yelling and everything, and so finally I'm like,
Speaker 12: you know what I have. I have my bag on
Speaker 12: my hand. I swung at the thing. He finally like
Speaker 12: took off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was like, uh, people, we talked last
Speaker 1: hour about that. Turkeys, particularly just two or three of them,
Speaker 1: they get they get real brave, and they'll they'll be
Speaker 1: nasty and they'll come and they'll peck at you and
Speaker 1: really and they'll bite you. So you gotta be careful
Speaker 1: out there. It's it's it's a brave new world, Christine.
Speaker 12: Do you know this? This this woman and she was
Speaker 12: who was driving by deadim almost they need them line,
Speaker 12: and she saw this animal come out. Oh it was
Speaker 12: so mandy. And they called it a It was between
Speaker 12: the walls of the coyote, a hybrid thing. They called
Speaker 12: it a cucka bearra Wow, never heard of that. It
Speaker 12: was so gross looking like it looked like a big nest,
Speaker 12: like a big hyena. License.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 11: No.
Speaker 1: The world's a change in Christine. We gotta take we
Speaker 1: gotta take action here. And I really mean that. I
Speaker 1: think we should trap these and get them out of here, just.
Speaker 12: Just topt they've all let massachuts will allow it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the problem you have, all of these, you know,
Speaker 1: these folks who consider themselves to be better human beings
Speaker 1: than you and me and all. We can't bother the coyotes.
Speaker 1: So now I'm not in that camp. Christine, love your calls.
Speaker 1: We'll talk soon. Thanks so much a lot of good
Speaker 1: information in this call. Thanks, good night. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: I got Kelly in Marblehead coming up. I got Tim
Speaker 1: and Wooburn and I got some room for you. If
Speaker 1: you want to call now, feel free, But if you
Speaker 1: if you wait much longer, you'll never make it. Six
Speaker 1: one six, nine thirty. We've talked a couple of hours.
Speaker 1: A lot of coyotes spotted recently in the town of
Speaker 1: Brookline and Brookline. They're not happy about it, and that's
Speaker 1: why we're talking about it. We talked last hour with
Speaker 1: a woman who was confronted by some coyotes. Nicole Roberts.
Speaker 1: Appreciate her taking the time to join us as a
Speaker 1: guest at the top of the ten. We've had some
Speaker 1: interesting calls. Let's keep it rolling, Let's finish strong. My
Speaker 1: proposal real simple. It is time now for us to
Speaker 1: trap and relocate coyotes. Move them to parts of the
Speaker 1: state or parts of the region where be more comfortable,
Speaker 1: and we will be more comfortable when they are in
Speaker 1: other parts of the state and other parts of the region.
Speaker 1: And those of you who are listening out of New England,
Speaker 1: Laurie was kind enough to call in from Idaho. Love
Speaker 1: to hear from you. We've had a few folks from
Speaker 1: out of state tonight. John from New York called in
Speaker 1: earlier and we talked with Bernie in New Hampshire. Pat
Speaker 1: in ro the island. Feel free. We got some cops.
Speaker 1: Some lines open join us six one seven, two fat
Speaker 1: four to ten thirty six one seven. Those lines are
Speaker 1: now filled. The only line that's open six one seven,
Speaker 1: two five four to ten thirty. Back on night Side.
Speaker 10: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on.
Speaker 2: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: All right, I don't know if we can run the
Speaker 1: table here. We're gonna give it a shot. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Kelly in Marblehead. Hey, Kelly, welcome, How are you?
Speaker 7: I'm well?
Speaker 1: How are you tell me about coyotes? Should they say
Speaker 1: or should they go?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 13: They gotta go, They gotta go. I love all the critters,
Speaker 13: but the coyotes gotta go. They they got a cat,
Speaker 13: my beloved cat, years ago, within a stone's throw of
Speaker 13: the front door. So an awful, it's devastating. And there's
Speaker 13: so many of them, so many of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's got out of control and it's
Speaker 1: only gonna get worse.
Speaker 13: And it's too and you can predict the role, you know,
Speaker 13: it turns over because they migrate to the different neighborhoods.
Speaker 13: But we'll see a zillion bunnies, tons of bunnies. Then
Speaker 13: all of a sudden, you don't seem any bunnies anymore.
Speaker 13: They've all disappeared. Oh yeah, then you'll see another run
Speaker 13: of bunnies, and then the coyotes come back after the
Speaker 13: bunnies again.
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, it's nature, Kelly, I could agree with you, boy,
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I don't know if you're a
Speaker 1: regular caller, but I want you to become one.
Speaker 13: I love your first time first time, but I love listening.
Speaker 13: But the thing is.
Speaker 1: Too run of bause is the first time? Call it?
Speaker 1: Go right ahead? I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 13: Well, I got one of those whistles on Amazon, those
Speaker 13: shrill whistles, sure you know, to walk with. And then
Speaker 13: somebody said, well is the whistle going to scare them
Speaker 13: or is it going to call them to you? So
Speaker 13: I'm like, oh, well, get.
Speaker 1: Some pepper, get some pepper spray.
Speaker 13: Yeah. Well, and but the whistle's a lot easier. I
Speaker 13: can see me holding the leash if I'm walking the
Speaker 13: dog and the bags and the flash light and hold
Speaker 13: a minute. I got to get my pepper spray and
Speaker 13: you know, spray it in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the whist although you could just put in
Speaker 1: your mouth like a referee. That'd be perfect. Here.
Speaker 13: There you go, There you go.
Speaker 1: I love it. Come on back soon. Well yeah, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Thank you, well, love it. Thank you
Speaker 1: about you too, Tim and Wilbur and Tim want to
Speaker 1: get you in at least a couple more.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Tim, you won't believe this because I don't
Speaker 7: believe it. I'll listen to the program. Since eleven o'clock, right,
Speaker 7: I slept and I woke up, okay, sitting in my
Speaker 7: car and what the heck of eleven? Toy and I
Speaker 7: hadn't seen a coyote? You all winter? White comes walking
Speaker 7: up to my driver side door. For the coyotes?
Speaker 1: How about that? Huh?
Speaker 7: Timely, I haven't seen in all winter. He comes right
Speaker 7: up to the car door and he's standing there for
Speaker 7: about five or ten seconds, and he left.
Speaker 1: No, I'm glad he left him left.
Speaker 7: No. Will they attack humans?
Speaker 1: Uh? There have been very infrequent examples of that. But
Speaker 1: do I think they have the capacity? I certainly do.
Speaker 1: I think any animal has the capacity to attack a human.
Speaker 7: Wow, Now I have jack rabbits, right, bunny rabbits. Bunny
Speaker 7: rabbits a million, and then I got a million squirrels,
Speaker 7: the bunny rabbits, I get a kick out. I like them.
Speaker 7: But this guy comes walking right up to the car
Speaker 7: and I said, I'm sitting here listening to this program.
Speaker 7: I got about Kyo. He said, I love the clock
Speaker 7: and here he comes, mystic I would not.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you did not get out of the car
Speaker 1: because we don't want to lose you. Okay, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: thanks him, all right, thanks to checking in. Okay, let'
Speaker 1: see if we get a couple of more in here
Speaker 1: real quickly, Jeff and wit. Jeff, you're next to a
Speaker 1: nice I go right ahead.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm like the lady of Marblehead. But with me,
Speaker 10: it was my chicken. One came right in the yard,
Speaker 10: grabbed it. I've called the police, I've called the dog officer,
Speaker 10: and nobody wants to deal with them. They say, don't
Speaker 10: call us. So I'd like to get rid of them.
Speaker 10: But we need a plan to have people actually work
Speaker 10: on it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what we're trying to do tonight. We're trying
Speaker 1: to stir it up a little bit. Jeff. And the
Speaker 1: fact that you called in, even though you called in late,
Speaker 1: it was very helpful. Look, you know you have a
Speaker 1: right to have some domestic chickens in your yard and
Speaker 1: not have to worry about coyotes. We got to do something.
Speaker 1: We got to move them out, simple as that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: Jed, thanks thanks for calling. Let me get one more
Speaker 1: in a least. Let me go to Lino in Wakefield.
Speaker 1: Lino next on nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, man, how are you doing good?
Speaker 1: We're tight on time. You've called late, but you go
Speaker 1: right ahead. You want to should coyotes?
Speaker 5: Should they go the sugo?
Speaker 1: Then sugar? That's the problem.
Speaker 6: And they don't have any predo they you know here
Speaker 6: in New England they are not even no pre only humans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the Laurie from Idaho is making that point
Speaker 1: when when there were no other predators. Yes, they they
Speaker 1: will proliferize. Great point, Lino, first time call her, Your
Speaker 1: first time call.
Speaker 12: Her, first time call.
Speaker 1: Got to give Lino a round of applause. Here, good night,
Speaker 1: good night. I'm gonna try one more rob real quickly
Speaker 1: and we'll try to get it done quickly.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: Let me go, Jimmy and Asheville. Jimmy, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you thirty seconds.
Speaker 8: Go all right. The big point about the coyotes. They
Speaker 8: get worse during droughts because they can't drink, and then
Speaker 8: they get especially fierce and rabid during the drought period.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You got it in final point. Thank
Speaker 1: you much, Thank you everybody to the callers in the line.
Speaker 1: I apologize got a call earlier. We're done for the night, Rob,
Speaker 1: great job tonight, very busy night. Marie, a great job
Speaker 1: as always. My name's Dan Rayl and there's always all dogs,
Speaker 1: all cats, all pets go to him. And that's my
Speaker 1: pell Charlie rays who passed fifteen years ago. That's where
Speaker 1: all your pets are who have passed. I know you
Speaker 1: love them and they loved you, and I believe you'll
Speaker 1: see them again. We'll see again tomorro night on Night's side.
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