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Speaker 2: Right. I'm hosting because Red Hag's not here. Hello, we're live.
Thank you guys for tuning in to the Pony Express
Radio today. Our usual glorious host is away as he's
been traveling, so I will be hosting today. First off,
welcome Pete.
Speaker 3: Hey, how's everybody doing?
Speaker 2: And welcome mister Spader, how's it going? Gentlemen, and our
special guest Carl Dahl. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: So first things first, a little bit of housekeeping, guys.
Some of us will be on Millennile on the USA
Banquet on Friday the twenty seventh, So if you haven't
been watching Milinni Yule, please check it out on Odyssey.
You can also find the links to that on Millennial
the Millennial Telegram, And that's something Millennial Woes does if
you know, for the one person who somehow doesn't know
what that is. So yeah, we're going to be joining
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I think a couple of more of us will be
there as well, so be sure to check that out. So,
without further ado, we'll now get into the topics we have.
So first things first tonight, as I'm sure everyone in
the audience is aware, there was a tragic incident, tragic
attack that happened within the last week, which is the
Abundant Life Christian School shooting. There was a lot of
speculation and misinformation or disinformation going around as soon as
this thing happened, and then it was sort of forgotten
about almost immediately in terms of, you know, how the
discourse works on Twitter. So first things first, we will
hand it over to our guest Carl Dohl for any
initial comments on this event. This tragic event.
Speaker 4: Well, I feel like it's just the latest in a
series of really obvious things that we're continuously told aren't
actually happening, right, you know, I remember maybe fourteen fifteen
years ago, gosh, fifteen years ago, being at a church
who hadn't had any incidents, but they had a really
tightly wrapped security operation going on with volunteers, guys with
their you know, carry permits, training to a certain level
of competency and having to perform security like twice a
month at minimum, and doing a rotation that way. And
that's just a really sensible thing to do in you know,
Christian communities, particularly with the culture that we have going on.
I don't think that we're going to see a reduction
in the chaos. I think it's only going to intensify,
as these things tend to happen when you reach situations where,
you know, pluralities of the population are basically enemies of
one another, whether they you know, contaniously decide that they
are not.
Speaker 2: Now, I have an article about this coming out on
our sub sect tomorrow on Friday. It will actually be
available to everyone to read because this is such an
important topic and it's you know, addresses the shooting, but
it also addresses some other things as well in relation
to it. I mean, I think one of the things
we can say about this is when when the when
the shooting first happened and hit the Twitter sphere, there's
a lot of speculation about, you know, was the person trans.
Everyone sort of expected it to be a trans person,
and but basically it was just a it was a
teenage girl, right, She wasn't trans as far as we
can tell. Maybe had some sort of nihilist ideology to
the extent we know anything. But I think this really
terminates sort of the the error we were living in,
or maybe thought we were living in. By that, I mean,
we're much further from the nineties than we may have realized.
Like now, we're now at the point where little girls
are doing school shootings, just completely out of the blue.
And I think this is a large I think this
ties into some of what we've talked about over the
last few weeks, you know, with that the guy who
drove the car through that dealership window that we briefly
touched on on stream, you know, the shooting of that
the CEO a week or two ago. It really looks
like and the normies are not okay. My article is
going to be titled what did you think the New
Normal meant? You should definitely go check it out tomorrow
because I really cover, you know, some of the dystopic
elements that this sort of event signifies. So yeah, there's
another article that sort of hits on the same point,
talking about just the misanthropy of not only this shooter,
but sort of the age we live in of the internet.
You know, this race to figure out, Okay, was the
shooter trans or not is kind of indicative of the
last graph, the actual perpetrator of a shooter, of the
shooting really being the primary goal consideration who's to blame
for this, right, which faction did the bad thing so
that we can now weaponize this to try and ram
through some political agenda through the Congress. But you really
just see that there's no juice left in the tank.
There's no even real attempt on behalf of any faction
to do this beyond just scoring points on Twitter. As
sad as that sounds, and it reminds me a little
bit of the last similar.
Speaker 5: Shooting, the Covenant shooting, where you just saw I mean,
first of all, you saw the administration close ranks behind
the faction that you know, we could say did the shooting,
but there was just basically no political fallout whatsoever, not
even you know, the some of the parents tried to
parlay this into like an anti gun control message, and
that didn't go anywhere either. Like the politics of school
shootings are just sort of debt. It's just a just
a black hole of misanthropy and apathy at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a plat where a school go ahead.
Beat since you ever gone yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one of the interesting things about this
is is that if you're to think, if you believe
that we're crossing over from one age to another, you know,
the spirit of the of the previous ages coming to
an end and we're entering into a new age. This
is the kind of stuff that happens. You start seeing
eno anomalist things, you start seeing trans people at the
forefront of society. You start seeing females shooting, you know,
fifteen year old females shooting up schools, killing Christians. You
start seeing Christians targeting being targeted. So I just think
that this is this is a real sign, even from
a metaphysical if you look at it metaphysically, that something
is happening and something is changing. The question is is
if you know, as Jason Ronchuk talks about how we're
coming out of the Age of the Devouring Mother, and
if we are going into the age of the vengeful son.
Then you know, how much more of this will happen,
how many more oddities, how much more common will this become?
So yeah, I'm gonna take the spiritual route on this
one and say that it looks like, you know something,
that we're going somewhere, and that these are the signs
that we are going somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, perhaps we've arrived already. I mean, we're at the
point where, you know, not to sound callous about it,
but at a school shooting like this is hardly even
interesting anymore the point of being a big news story.
I mean, when I was born, this would have been
an enormous cultural event, and now it's just sort of expected.
And not only that, but the first thing everyone does
is to try and figure out, much like with the
CEO shooter, you know, try and figure out how this
serves their political narrative. You know, you see this on
both sides. People are sort of hoping that this event
is actually a weapon they've been giving. And that's what's
really gross about us and what I think, well not,
I think what we absolutely should be remaining focused on
is the fact that Christians are under attack in this
country and this is an another attack in a long
series of attacks, not just in this country, but going
on across the planet. And this goes from everything from
the burning churches in Canada and in Europe, what just
happened in Syria. That's what this ties into. And we
shouldn't be looking at this as a weapon we can
use to support some sort of political narrative or ideology.
It's absolutely critical, you know, for the good of our
own souls to remain focused on what is really happening
here and not let not simply view like the deaths
of these children and I believe some of the teachers
as well as just another happening on Twitter. It's truly
hyper real at this point, where and I feel this myself.
It's like it doesn't even feel real when you're experiencing
all this stuff through the screen and through the Twitter discourse.
But you have to constantly remind yourself, and this sort
of idea is in the article I have tomorrow, to
some extent, you have to constantly remind yourself that this
is real, tragic events that are actually happening, and it's
not just pixels on your screen that facilitate your Internet
war against whoever it is you don't like.
Speaker 3: Well, it also may be pointing towards the fact that,
you know, what Yaqui said is that we're entering into
the age of total politics, where now it's not only
your politicians that are political and your corporate CEOs that
are political, but now everyone is political. And if everyone
is political, that it's almost like everyone becomes a political target.
And you know, everything you know, we politics has always
been friend enemy, but now it seems like that is
just magnified times ten times one hundred, and it's something
that we can't ignore anymore until we can until this passes.
I mean, I have a tendency to believe that this
is just, you know, one of those waves and it's
just going to pass and we're going to move on
to something new. It hasn't always been like this. It
won't stay like this. It'll go to something new. But
until until then, everybody needs to be on their toes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, our normies are catching on that they specifically are
being targeted. That it's not this like a ninety school
shooting nihilism thing, right, It's very it's very targeted, and yeah,
the SSRIs are a huge part of it, of course,
but it's the it's the cultural warfare that's taking place
where this is essentially either celebrated or laughed at with
like sarcastic tweets about you know, oh, we're your thoughts
in prayers, not not helping. You know, it's disgusting. And
they do it because, as you said, Pete, everything is
political now. This is this is political activity, and the
people carrying it out. Yeah, sure they probably are essentially nihilists,
but you know in the old sense where they have
an enemy and they and they want to you know,
destroy the enemy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just uh, it's it's what Pete said is right,
that we're going to have to go through this era
before this ends. And unfortunately it's going to be the
case that many more of these are going to happen
over the next couple of years. And yeah, what you
said about normal people sort of realizing that they're under attack,
I think that's that's why. You know, if you look
at someone like this this Luigi Manjoni person who's allegedly
the shoot of the CEO, or this girl it there,
it seems like they have pretty normy political ideology. I mean,
I think all of us are really past the whole
concept of ideology anyway. But if you if you try
and figure out like whether they're left or right wing,
or what their beliefs are, it's often just a grab
bag if you make any sense. So, and that's fundamentally
because like the Normies aren't equipped two even have this realization.
And this is why I've talked about how like it's
it's dangerous to to try and red bill people on
purpose because you could actually cause things like this to
happen by you know, giving giving dangerous information to the
wrong people. And I don't mean dangerous like you know,
uh fed posting type stuff. I mean you know, like
nick Land or something like that, or even something more
milkto hazards. Basically, yeah, it info hazard is the correct word.
Like those are real, and unfortunately Normies are now becoming
inundated in info hazards and there's no way they can
avoid them at this point because even their's sort of
mainstream news sources are bringing those info hazards to them.
Now we'll get into this later, but this sort of
touches on the fact that, you know, Jeffrey Sachs on
Tucker Carlson, which is something we'll talk about later, he
just straight up talks about how all of the wars
over the last several decades that America's prosecuted have been
for Israel. And you know, these sorts of things are
serious info hazards for normies, and some of them won't
be able to take it, and a smaller subset of
that will go ballistic. I suppose literally, like some of
these shooters we've seen.
Speaker 3: You know, Tom that's first back in the eighties that
you know, if you were to wake up all the
all the regular people to what he knew, what would
you do with them? And you know, he's saying that
at a time when you're basically on a mailing list,
you're if anybody wants your information, they have to contact you.
They have to you have to give them your address
and then you mail them something. Now somebody just logs
onto Twitter and they see people just yeah, basically posting
you well, these people are in charge of this, and
these people are in charge of that. I mean, it's
highly radicalizing and h the average person shouldn't know, you know,
the average person should barely know who the mayor of
their town is. And I remember a time when that
was like it was like that, but now you have
normies who are like, oh, I know, you know, I
know exactly who's in charge, or it's this it's the leftist,
it's this group that, and well what do you what
are you doing?
Speaker 6: I mean these people, it's actually why I think something
like Alex Jones to your conspiratorialism is deeply damaging to
good people because if you tell like, oh, there's this
cabal that runs the earth that's horrifically evil, but I'm
not going to name any of their names, there's nothing
you can do about them.
Speaker 5: They have infinite money, they have infinite protection from the law.
You know, what does a normal person do with that?
Speaker 7: But despair?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, and in despair people get it's desperate
and they do desperate things. And also you have people
who think that they're heroes and if they do something
heroic by doing something that by doing something that's you know,
completely out of left field, that there's some kind there
are some kind of hero and that just doesn't that's
not a good recipe when you especially when you look
at a culture that has no foundation, that has lost
its foundation, that it doesn't have a foundation of morality,
it doesn't have a foundation in the fact that it's
a nation and that it's part of a people. Everything.
When you mix this group of these this salad of
third world and second world and first worlders together, there's
no unless the first worlders step up, the white Europeans
step up and take charge and say this is the
way it's going to be. People are going to try
to make it their way, and their way is not
a way that's going to lead us to the kind
of order that we want.
Speaker 5: Well, I think you see this explicitly with this Luigi character. Right,
like all these leftists who will spend all day lecturing
you on Twitter about like being a hecking normal, good
person or whatever, are the ones who are like, oh, well,
it's great that he killed a CEO because at least
someone did something TM. You know, you push him a
little bit and you're like, what is killing a CEO
supposed to do to help the American healthcare industry. It's
just like, well, uh, he did something and you haven't
done anything, so ergo it's good. Like it's a it's
a completely bizarre and disconnected from reality. But they're just unhinged,
and not even in a political way, just like they
literally are not able to process reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think to some extent it's it's
not even real for them, Like they don't actually have
a concept of one human being murdered another. It's it's
just like a data point in an ongoing political battle
that doesn't actually have any relation to the real world there.
It only exists inside of their private conceptual space, and
it means something in how they understand the battle they
think that they are participating in. In that case in
the healthcare industry, it was quite remarkable with that shooting,
how it was almost like people went out of their
way to like write movie scripts about what this guy,
who this guy was, and what his intentions were, and
everyone just wanted him to Everyone actually wanted him to
be their guy, which was which was kind of weird,
like you don't normally see, especially people on both sides
of the political aisle, like try to claim this, try
to claim an assassin like that. But now we're at
the point where people are so desperate for anything that
they view as effective and against the grain, like they
just want someone to do it. They don't even care
what it is. And this actually reminds me of a
pretty well known Bowden clip. You can find Jonathan Bowden
you can find on you know, going around Twitter from
time to time. It's the clip where he talks about
once people are only except a vanguard when they're truly desperate.
And even at that point, they won't want to get
their hands dirty. They won't complain if someone else, as
in that case, does something for them or that they like,
but they would never they never want to feel implicated
in it at all. But they will only turn to
those people when they're truly desperate. Even if they privately
agree with them, they'll still publicly, you know, clap like
a seal when these people have cracked down upon it.
It's so I think, I, you know, I also have
the conception of vanguardism as opposed to populism. I think
most people in hetersphere that kind of watch the show
are probably vanguards. That's how they conceptualize what they're doing.
And when you're in that role, you just have to be.
You have to be, you have to completely, you have
to accept the role, and the role is to be
this this hated you know, quote unquote radical until the
time that people are completely desperate and turn to your
ideas well.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if you've observed this either, But
the whole populism frame since Trump won is originating mostly
from these sort of jugueu papist intellectuals like Adrian Vermule
and Deman and I'm forgetting the su Rabamari. And it's
this frame of like, what Trump really means is anger
against the man man. You know, what Trump really means
is the hecking multi racial working class is fed up
with the elite Harvard institution. Like the entire frame is
this revolt of the underclass type stuff, and it deliberately
obscures all the policies that we actually voted to help
Trump accomplish, the policies that we invested Trump to accomplish.
And they're still they're still running this game plan and
when you see it, it's hard to unsee it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is actually a really good observation you've made there,
This this use of populism and this narrative about what
Trump represents to undermine the actual policies that people voted
for him for. You know, this is this is almost
leaning into this maga communism territory where his election is
about this this you know, it's a friend of ours. Uh,
you know, his says we're all Marxist. Maybe he's right.
I don't know, but, uh, the this idea that it's
just one big working class revolution against the man is
complete bullshit. That's not That's not what it is. It's
it's about taking our country back. It's about removing the
people who don't belong here and sending them back to
where they belong. It's it's about, uh, you know, protecting
the American heritage. There has nothing to do uh at
its core with this idea of uh, you know, a
class revolt.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's not like morphous at all. We have receipts
for what we want. We want an immigration moratorium, that
is what the American people have voted for repeatedly. Now,
we want an end to these foreign wars. We want
a trade policy that is more and more cantilists. These
are all things that we can point to policy proposals
that can be passed and can be enacted. It's totally
different than this sort of amorphous Ah, we need to
stick it to the man. And yeah, I just once
you see this, it unlocks so many skeleton keys of
the false friends of the right that we have gained
over the last eight years, and this is the influence
that we as a vanguard really have to expel as
much as we can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, and that's one of the reasons we're
focusing on this and bring it up pretty much every
stream we do every week at this point is we
have to remember what the American people voted for, and
it's actually specific things you can point to and we
can measure whether or not they're being done or not.
And that is something that has to be done. People.
You can't let them transform Trump into some sort of
you know, cipher for this class revolt. That's not what
it is. That's not what people voted for. You have
to remember that. Anyway, I think we've strayed a bit
from the school shooting topic now. I don't know if
anyone has anything they want to add on top of
this type.
Speaker 5: Of final thought on this that kind of goes to
the same thing as Covenant, which is during the Hawaiian wildfires,
there was a statement that came out afterwards something to
the effect of only those who disobeyed survive. And I
think in terms of schooling, this is something that people
like us and people adjacent to our spheres are going
to have to come to grips with that. If you
raise your kids in the way that the culture is
raising them, if you put them in the institutions, even
if it has a Christian name in front of it,
through the institutions that are mainstream, you are running a
risk of this sort of thing happening. There's no guarantee
of their safety, and in fact, quite the opposite. They're
going to be exposed to enormous danger that they shouldn't
be And it's only when you're willing to step outside
the system and outside its control that you will gain
back a measure of safety and freedom.
Speaker 2: All right, if no one else is doing to add
we will move on to the next topic, which is
pete fries some bacon.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just one of those things that I
threw out there. I throw out there every once in
a while to see if someone will bite on it,
and they rarely do much less a sitting congressman, I
thought it was very interesting that, like immediately you had
some people jump in like the usual suspects and go, oh,
this is such a this is such a stupid question.
So no, I mean, how is this a stupid question?
If you have to choose between one country continuing to
exist and it's a country that you're a representative of.
I mean, well, if you're a if you're here, you
have to choose, You have to choose A if you're
a sitting representative, and you choose, and your answer is
you're not going to answer the question. You're not going
to say A or B. But you you know, put
read revelations sick and report back. Well, I mean, you're
just telling us exactly where we are, you know. And
I thought it was funny that I saw these huge
accounts that were sharing the screen shot. And one thing
I knew that wasn't going to happen is I knew
there wasn't going to be any politicians sharing it. There
weren't going to be any politicians speaking at against their
fellow congressman, because, as Thomas Massey has told us, they
all if they don't think like if this isn't something
that is related to the end times to them, as
this person is leading us to believe, well, they're either
bought and paid for, they're being blackmailed. And I think
at this point it's just blackmail. I mean, I just
I don't even know that money has anything to do
with it anymore. So, I mean, I don't know what
more there is to say when you know, at this point,
you know, we wanted Trump in there because we didn't
want Kamala Harris in there. The people who the people
who were running her, or let's put it this way,
the people who I belie you have a chance of
at least keeping this kicking the can down the road
instead of absolutely dismantling and destroying and creating an environment
where no one can thrive. And that the you know,
the European, the white European, is even more of a target.
I think that was the easier choice, was to choose Trump.
And I know that Trump is not good on Israel.
I know, I know He's not our first choice on Israel.
All we can all we can do is just hope
that we could have had Kamala Harris, who would have
been just as bad on Israel, maybe even worse considering
who she had around her, and who would have just
continued to be in power. But also, you know, Twitter,
Kamala Harris wins. Twitter's gone. Twitter goes back to what
it was we are, We become targets and people who
think that like Trump is going to target us because
we have bad things. You know, we have criticisms of Israel. Well,
I mean, we had criticism of Israel throughout the whole
first term, and you know, we didn't see targeting specifically
because of that that came from the left, that came
from you know, the regime that is Trump, the regime.
I don't know, maybe someone maybe maybe someone can answer
that question, but.
Speaker 5: Okay, to that point, right, Like, even the way that
Dan Crenshaw is treated on Twitter or in public is
very very different than the way he would have been
treated let's say, nine or ten years ago. The Republican
Party is a different party, and that is because of
and because of us, Like that all these screenshots of
this guy, he's transparently admitting to treason, and it's like, yeah,
I care more about this country and one that I
theoretically hail from that might and that I am the
representative of. Like, it's completely ridiculous that ever openly admit
as any sort of you know, you almost hope that
it's it's blackmail, because if someone is getting paid for
this is you know, it's deeply shameful. But I think
that the other angle of this story is that this
guy is getting clowned, and as much as you know,
money or blackmail talks, it's becoming increasingly untenable in the
Republican Party to maintain this treasonous take on Israel is
becoming impossible to do it publicly, or at least without
taking serious flack.
Speaker 4: And they're beginning to take that flak. I mean, like
you were saying, people just get clowned when they do
this publicly. Just all these obsequious posts. This is just
begging and scraping. It's hilarious because I mean it's disgusting,
but if you look at the replies, it's just them
getting battered. And then a couple of like good boys
and you know Saturday people are in there, you know,
praising them for their comments. But it's almost completely just
like literally regular people who are saying, hey, wait a minute,
I thought you're this you know, this nationalist and I
mean normies are saying that the GOP E is our
primary enemy, which is a fantastic, fantastic sign.
Speaker 2: It's remarkable that this guy was foolish enough to actually
take your because there was absolutely no reason for him
to respond to this. But sometimes these fools are so
full of Hubris. They just can't help themselves. I mean,
is this guy, this guy got to be the dumbest
person in the freaking planet to respond to Kat. Yes,
I mean what an in and yeah, in all time
they do, they get completely destroyed.
Speaker 3: Well, his original response was, you know, I guess you know,
a lot of people just absolutely lost their shit over
the fact that Candice had the USS Liberty guy on.
So the USS Liberty Veterans Remembrance account on Twitter has
been posting a lot, and he responded to that. He
responded to one of their posts and he said, that
was sixty years ago. Well, anyone who's good at Twitter
knows the response to that. And immediately what I did
was I went to his timeline, just typed in Halabunga
and found like post after post after post, you know,
referring to the Halabunga and survivors, and I just took one,
you know, copied one and responded and I said, well,
this was eighty five years ago. Why the fuck, what
the fuck do we care about this? And that's when
he kind of he got kind of drawn in and
I mean just the fact that you would allow it,
And then I don't know, ife, you people have seen this.
But Dan Crenshaw has been losing his shit online too.
Speaker 4: Oh he's he's totally stranging.
Speaker 3: I mean, the what this tells me is it tells
me we're getting to them. I mean, if they're responding
in such a way, we're getting to them. It doesn't
mean that we're It doesn't mean that we're winning, you know,
because winning, I think or or In has the best
outline of winning. You know, anyone who knows that list
that he puts on there. But it's definitely a step
in the right direction that you have sitting congress people
on Twitter openly admitting to treason and then cursing their
constituency or maybe not their constituency, but cursing the general public.
And I don't know how this isn't a win. And
I mean, I'm just a retard, so, you know, me
being able to bait this bait this congressman says a
whole lot more about how what a fucking idiot he
is than how smart I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're definitely pissing them off, for sure. And I
don't know, there's probably something in sun sou about this.
I don't know well enough. I'll just paraphrase with enemy
piece off, he make a mistique. So yeah, I think
they're going to make a lot of errors now that
we're we're really getting to them. I mean, you can
you know you're under the sky's skin right now, and
the same for Friendshaw. But they just keep coming back
and getting owned. I don't know what it is that
makes them keep coming back to get owned. Is it hubris?
They do? They are? They really do? They really not
understand how much people hate them.
Speaker 4: Are they supposed to do it? I mean, because like
to your son sou point, you're only supposed to fight
battles where you're gonna win, where you have the you know,
the superior ground, where you have the right positioning where
they're weaker, uh, you know, where you control most of
the variables. That's you're supposed to pick your battles. Why
are these clowns like doing this? Are they supposed to
do it? Or are the tarreds they could just be?
Speaker 5: I think it's they genuinely have not dealt with these
arguments before. Oh no conservative media, let alone conservative politics.
It's like these people are the guys saying like, oh
a lot over the speed limit towards race communism. Let's
let's a little bit, and that's like the extent of
their argument. You know, they find certainers like very baseline,
you know, Edmund Burke. Oh, this is so profound, this
is incredible, what a what a titanic mind, you know,
and it's just and they're just no match for them,
even when the people themselves are fairly intelligent. You can
just tell that it does great on them. It does
drive them nuts. I mean, you see the way that
like the Babylon Bee guys react to right wing Twitter.
You can just tell that A. They're not used to this,
and b it is deeply offensive to them that someone
to their right is critiquing them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point, because they act as if
they've never heard these arguments before, or they've never engaged
in them before. Like when you go to the especially
during the Great Bannings and when people were on you know,
a gab and the Fetaverse and other locations like that.
That was like that was like Batman or you know,
Batman going and training you know, in the underworld for
several years and then coming back and having dealt with
all of these arguments, like usually getting to the point
where we're at means going through these and dealing with
these arguments and getting really comfortable with them, and these
clowns haven't done that, and they feel, you know, they
behave as if them making one statement is going to
make you go away, But what it really is is
just opens them up for a full assault with what
we're ready for metaphorically, and so you know it, it
is interesting, like they literally are acting like trolls who've
never encountered these arguments before and don't understand that what
you're doing is putting them on display. You're not arguing
with them, You're you're tearing apart they're framing publicly for
the audience, and they're just incapable of understanding that.
Speaker 3: I think it also points to the fact that, you know,
Thomas talks about this all the time. How you know,
fifty years ago Elon Musk would be pulled into the
government to work, you know, because they would want the
best minds in there, and we just these people are unimpressive.
You know, all of my study of like the politicians
during the first year of Vietnam, I mean, I know Vietnam,
there were things happened in Vietnam before sixty five, but
it started before sixty five. You know, John McCormick from
Massachusetts was a Speaker of the House. Go look at
this guy and tell me that he would be on
Twitter admitting that he was bought and sold by another country,
where he'd be telling somebody go fuck yourself. You know,
you know, we just have the most unimpressive people, and
we have people who you want, the elite of the
elite in charge, and these people don't know how to act.
They're no different. They act no different than a non
on Twitter. When you break when you break them down,
and that just that lets you know, I mean, we
are we're definitely either we're being ruled by the dumbest
people or what's more likely is these people are just
the face out there and the people behind the scenes
are running it. And you know, we don't know who
we don't know who that is. And that's all we
can hope for, you know, And you.
Speaker 2: Got to that point your your original question of is
it money or is it blackmail? I mean, the more
we see big tech money and power line up behind
a MAGA faction with Musk and Trump, you know, the
less likely it is that they're just doing this for money,
because it seems like there's plenty of money that could
be had on the other side. So it's looking more
and more like it's it's just blackmail. These people are
all just completely compromised and are being blackmailed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm it's it's really the only not the only answer,
but I mean, it really is seems to be the
most likely answer when you consider what we know. I mean,
we have Jeffrey Epstein sitting right there, and then you know,
we still don't know about everything with Sean Combs, what's
going to come out of that? I mean, I think
these are people who and you wonder why. I mean,
with the five minute news cycle, Lindsey Graham could come
out and talk about how he was having a yo
sex with a fourteen year old boy and most people
would forget about it by tomorrow, you know. So it's
I don't know, I don't know what the fuck is
going on it. It just doesn't seem it seems like
maybe it goes back to what I was talking about.
When you're crossing over from one age to another, things
just get really really really fucked up and confusing. It's hard,
it's hard to see if you're not looking at it
from a metaphysical level, a metaphysical viewpoint in my opinion.
Speaker 5: Well, and if we circle our diverge a little bit
towards a point about the Congress and about elected representatives generally,
like there is this sort of fiction which is the
legal framework the Constitution sets out of Congress being the
branch that's supposed to actually do stuff and act laws
and all that sort of thing. But they don't. They
don't do that as a feature actually not a bug, Like,
it's the administrative state and the judiciary that basically everything
Congress is just paid to be essentially professional wind bags.
So I mean that also might be the clue as
to why these people are continually getting dumber, really putting
their foot in their mouths.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's another aspect of this too in terms of
what Trump is and why why we wanted him to win.
Speaker 7: It is morale.
Speaker 2: Like it people don't. I think a lot of people
don't appreciate how much morale is a resource. And it's
a resource within our people that can be utilized just
like money. Right, if you play tabletop war games, for example,
they're all going to have some sort of morale systems
there are you know, command units that can increase your
units morale, and if your units have low morale, well
they can't. Actually we act on the battlefield you lose.
We can analogize that to the situation of Trump winning.
Is it actually drastically increases the morale of our people.
And that's actually a resource that you know, groups like
the Old Glory Club can actually utilize to great effect
and to the benefit of Americans. And this is why
you know, there can be a time and place for
black pilling. But it's why we've been so hard against
it since the election really kicked off. Is because when
you when you're black pilling unnecessarily, you're actually squandering a
precious resource that has just gotten a huge increase from
Trump winning. And this is you know, I guess that's
really the point, is that this, this is an unquantifiable
aspect to Trump winning that election that should not be
overlooked and squandered. So with that, I think it's it's
probably time to hit up some some super chats. So
I'm going to pop over to our high tech system
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Old Glory Club, it's all been worth it in my
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some resources down there and encourage people to go down there,
and some of us have actually gone down there. I mean,
I think it's all been worth it just to be
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to our people who are still suffering from the hurricane.
And we cannot thank everyone enough who are participating in
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And yeah, so next we have Pete Budapest for four
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we can. We can try to pull that up. I'll
continue on and read the other ones while we do
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Speaker 5: Okay, let's see me apply named representative Bacon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't taste. I don't think that's why.
I think that's just a nice shotist boy.
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Twitter Old Glory Club. We've got Maddy Ice for ten dollars.
If I was being blackmailed, I wouldn't engage on Twitter
with Pete is Bacon sincere. I think a big group
of people being at least lightly blackmailed would be wiling
to flip. Well, I don't think the blackmail is light if.
If that's the case, I don't know about you, Pete,
but I mean I don't think their engagement or lack
of is specifically because of blackmail. I mean, in this case,
this Bacond guy just a moron. There was no reason
for him to actually engage with Pete. He did it,
not because specifically he was being blackmailed to meet to
do it. He's just an idiot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, I'm not one who wants to
shit on anyone in the military. But the guy's a
former brigadier general. I mean the Air Force, of course,
but I mean they we're really not getting our best
when it comes it comes to the military anymore. Maybe
that's why he's out.
Speaker 4: Who knows, Hey, he's the guy who got ice cream
machines and the barracks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and you know, Stormy made a good
point we were talking the other day. He said, this
guy went from a brigadier general, where every general, every
every kind of flag officer has like their own fiefdom
and they control. Yeah, they control so much, and why
would they want to leave? And basically by him becoming
a congressman, it's like a huge step down, it's like
a demotion. So yeah, it's like, well, why is he there?
And why has Apak given him more money than they've
given to Marco Rubio. A lot of weird things with.
Speaker 7: That dude, So actually have that's bizarre next at Snider
for ten dollars.
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Imagine my lack of shekel for twenty five dollars, Pete,
I loved your episode with Stormy on the UHC shooter.
That's United Healthcare. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually was just listening to that episode while I
was cutting down trees in my forest, so that was
definitely a good episode. Check it out on Pete's channel.
As I mentioned before, we've got empty NAT fourteen eighty
eight for five dollars. I don't think all of these
people like bake and are blackmailed. I ran a poll
in a boomer con Facebook group and asked if they
choose America or Israel, and thirty percent of them chose Israel.
Christian Zionists. Yeah, there's probably a non negligible number of
these people who are actually dumb enough to just do
this for free and not even need to be blackmail. Well,
I'm sure there's probably something a lot of these people.
Let's be honest, and then we have City Breakdancer, bring
yourself for now some of these user names man, Merry
Christmas boys, well, thank you very much. Merry Christmas to
you as well. And finally, for now, we've got Alsie
Miller for ten dollars. Mister Bacon belief is no different
than most evangelical churches in the Deep South and ninety
nine percent of Baptist churches. At least he doesn't have
Acabbola Rabbi like Trump or Koser grand kids. Well, I
couldn't say. If it's ninety nine percent of Baptists, I
won't slur them that way, but maybe someone else has
an opinion on that. So yeah, that's it for uh,
that's it for the super chats for now. And now
we can move on to our next topic, which is yes,
Musk and Trump and the GOP. Interesting tweets from Musk
on this. We've got one about this bill that's been reduced.
Yes here it is right here. So there was this
enormous stack of papers calling around on Twitter yesterday for
this particular bill. I don't actually know what this the
bill is, do you guys happen to know? I didn't
get a chance to look into this one. But basically,
after some complaints on Twitter from the pro Trump crowd,
apparently this bill has been reduced by I don't know,
it looks like ninety percent or something of this tiny
stack of papers. So some people are saying this is
doge in action. I mean, this isn't the first time,
you know, we've seen bills posted like this, where it's
this enormous, unreadable body of text to the point where
like the law doesn't mean anything anymore because it's completely illegible,
like nothing with that much information. It ceases to have
any meeting at this point. It just makes them mockery
the concept of law. Really, So apparently this bill has
been produced. So we like to see this because, I mean,
this is part of the ongoing battle between Musk and
Trump against the GOP. It's good to see that they
are still taking the bull by the horns in this
respect and not backing down. Basically, ever since the election happened,
there's there's been this ongoing fight to try and force
the GOP to basically implement Trump's policies. So, I don't know,
if do you guys have any anything to say on this?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's very significant. There are a couple
of things at once point out. One was some friends
of ours have been successfully using rock and other AI
tools to come through this bill and take out all
important information. I think that's enormous technological development. The dividends
down the road, you know, being able to use LMS
to get all the all the pork out of these bills.
It's a huge development, and I think is in the
end going to make these bills much more difficult to pass,
which it's like this is the only thing Congress ever
passes anymore. And then yeah, I would say significant as
well that Elon used an enormous amount of energy. He
tweeted about this one hundred and twenty two times. I
think to kill this bill. There is si developments with
Twitter and changing the way that Congress works. Yeah, you
broke up a bit for me there, so we didn't
quite get everything you said. I don't know if your
connections having some issues or anything, but I think we
kind of got the gist of it. So hopefully you
can just check your check if your man and that's
lagging or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't really have much more to say on this
other than it's it's good to see that Musk and
Trump are continuously hammering the GOP, Musk in particular on
this whole government efficiency bit. And I mean, to be honest,
one of the problems with stacks of papers like this
is nobody can sit there and even read the bill.
The other the smaller bill in that previous tweet, like
we can actually go read the entire thing. Now, no
one has time to even see it's being passed when
it's the version of anyway, what was the stext line?
Speaker 3: I think, well, well, I think I think I'll close
on that subject just by saying I'm sure there are
some people who are going to believe that this was
all k fabe. They presented the big bill and then
they oh no, and you know, then the Brahmin went
and read the whole thing and said we need to
end down to here. And that was the plan all along.
The plan all along is just to have a small
bill because people are retarded. They think everything is a
conspiracy and Canada has great health care.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what is the next week we've got lined
up here? Let's see Trump orders Senate Republicans to not
make deals with Democrats on fast tracking. Biden nominees at
the end of this current congress. Yeah, this is important.
So Trump says to all Senate Republicans, no deal with
Democrats to fast track nominations the end of this Congress.
I won the biggest mandate in one hundred and twenty
nine years. I will make my appointments of very qualified
people in January when I am sworn in. This is
something that's really stupid about the American system at this point,
where there's this three month gap between the president being
elected and actually taking all and as we're seeing, you know,
we've covered this in the geopolitical and warfare dimensions a bit.
The regime is basically going ape shit now on the
geopolitics side of things. And there's no reason for this
to happen. I mean, Trump should assume office on the
day he wins the election. There's no reason to have
this time lapse this time period now, because we're not
living in the eighteenth century and we have internet and
our fastest mode of transportation isn't a horse. I mean,
there's really no reason not to have the election on
January nineteenth and have the inauguration on January twentieth. There's
just there really needs to be a constitutional amend for this.
Obviously that's not going to happen, but it's something to
consider just how stupid it is that we still do this,
because it's literally just like a free three month window
for the incumbent if he's being replaced by the opposite party,
they just do everything possible to ruin things, and it's
just completely unacceptable this can even happen.
Speaker 3: Well, you also have to consider there's probably digital bonfires.
Digital bonfires were going on the next day, and yeah,
I mean yeah, if they expect, if they expect someone
to go in there and you know, start to audit them,
then they could be walking into auditing nothing because it's
all gone and all they have to say is, oh,
there was a problem, there was. I mean, no one
gets thrown in jail, no one gets put on trial.
So yeah, I mean, if if you don't know who's
gonna win the election, they have the election, and as
soon as the election is decided, they take office, boom,
they can do whatever they want to kick people, to
fire people whoever they want to, sees computer sees everything,
do things like that if they wanted to. Yeah, this
three months, this three month span just makes it Uh,
it just opens the door for every not only destroying
whatever evidence there could be of criminal of what we
know is criminal activity in the past, in the past
four years and longer, but also to just absolutely sabotage
and maybe start a war two just to spite the
American people, because I mean, this is we know, this
isn't about Trump, this is about us. So why would
you know those of us who hate this regime and
want to see this regime destroyed? So that's two cents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've got a paper shredding truck here that's
shown up and uh, well yeah, I mean the bigger
issue is going to be the digital We know Trump
brought this up on his podcast with Joe Rogan for
the election and in many other places as well, about
how they've deleted all this information. I believe it was
on the January sixth investigation. And the problem with stuff
like this is, yes, it's illegal, but what are you
gonna do, Like you're gonna charge them with whatever law
was broken for deleting this evidence. This this sort of
investigation just isn't going to play. And then there's like
responsibility chains too. I mean, obviously he should be convicted
for this and it absolutely can be traced. But it's
one of those things where if you actually pursue if
Trump like pursued this, maybe he will, it will definitely
be extremely difficult because the problem evidence is gone, right,
Like that's the problem is there's nothing, there's no big
piece of evidence to actually latch onto if they really
did successfully delete it. One of the problems you have, though,
is it's actually extremely difficult to delete information from computers.
Maybe they have successfully done so that's probably why they
need the three months still, because you know, there's so
many redundant copies of this information. I would imagine that
it's actually quite hard to scrub all of it. Anyway, Yes,
I don't think I don't really have anything else on
this particular subject. Our next topic is I think the
last one of got actually is Tucker's interview with Jeffrey Sacks.
And yeah, Jeffrey Sachs. He appears pretty frequently on Judge
to Paulitano's show, which has gotten a little weird, i'll
be honest, in the last couple of months, but you know,
it's it provides interesting perspectives. This was a very interesting
interview because mister Sachs here as interviewed by Tucker Carls
and he just right from the beginning, you listened to
the first few minutes, he just says, straight up, and
I alluded to this earlier, that yeah, all these wars
we've been fighting over the last several decades, and he
actually he names that famous memo that names the seven
countries we're going to have wars in. The only one
we haven't had a war in yet is a Ran.
He just straight up says, you know, all these wars
are done for Israel, which is really interesting, right, just
that this is just something that's now said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, here's a good question. Okay, So if if
Tucker is Trump's guy, and Trump is so anti Israel,
I mean, Trump is so pro Israel, pro Zionist. You know,
he's given as he sacrificed his children on the altar
of Zion. Why is somebody on Tucker's show saying this.
You would think Tucker could shut it down. He's choosing
to have people on that show, and we know that
he's on the phone with Trump all the time. Why
is any shutting it down to invoke the meme?
Speaker 4: We all know that President Trump is a TV enjoyer,
and it's absolutely This is how we get through to
him on this topic. Is Trump is Trump a guy
who is in with Jews and says a lot of
things that we don't like about Israel and how important
Israel is and so on and so forth. Yes, absolutely,
is he like obsequious and bowing and scraping to Israel.
Speaker 1: Not so much.
Speaker 4: I know that there are people that will disagree with
me on that, but not so much. He goes in
the opposite direction quite a bit. And you can't maintain
the America first thing while putting Israel first, Like, it
just won't work at this point. The people will not
accept it. The you know, the the Boomer Conservatives, the
Boomer Zionists, like they're really there. There are a lot
of them, but it's mostly in a you know, because
it's it's easy to say, it's easy to repeat things
that you've heard, but they're you know, they can't really
do anything. They can't volunteer for the military. They're not
going to encourage their you know, children and grandchildren to
go to war for Israel. Like there's almost no examples
of that ever happening. I just I just don't buy it,
Like we have all the GWAT vets, who are the
ones that people are listening to about. What is the
military like, you know, what's been going on in the
Middle East? Is it worth it? Yeah, it's it's Uh.
They're talking right to President Trump through through the screen,
and I honestly think that it's it's for that, and
it's also for prepping those more kind of normy conservatives
who are in the audience with these talking points so
that it's so that it's not something that they have
to worry about, so that they can resolve it and
move on to what really matters.
Speaker 2: This is one of those things where, you know, when
when we're talking on this podcast and we're giving narrative
advice on how you should view this or that, just
remember that it's quite possible. Well it's not just possible.
There's information we have that you don't have. So when
we are making recommendations in terms of you know, are.
Speaker 3: You telling me hold on, hold on, Charlie, Charlie, are
you telling me there are people in a YouTube chat
who no more than us?
Speaker 2: Well, I think so they all know more than us.
Speaker 3: Actually, Okay, that's what I thought.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, of course, but no, you know, yeah, just
remember that you know, we might have some information you
don't have, and that's that's informing us, and we are
there in informing you. So there you go.
Speaker 5: I have to bring up about this is that this
is the definition of acting like a van card. Even
though Israel's actions over the last several decades have been
pretty egregious in terms of actual American interests, Israel has
been pretty popular in terms of their public support, and
it has been the work of the e Right to
fundamentally undermine that support. This is an issue where we
are pushing in a particular direction and we can see
the fruits of our labors. And even though this isn't
necessarily like we're not doing this because this is super
it's a super popular take, but it's right and people
are beginning to see that that that's worth commenting as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so everything we're doing is working. It absolutely is.
We know it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Like
Pete said, what we're doing is working and we're gonna
keep doing it. And this is why it's important not
to black build, not to attack the wrong people, right,
even when they don't have all of the opinions you
want them to have. Let's say Daryl Cooper, for example.
You know, some people still like to try and attack
him over old tweets he's hat or something. Don't do that.
That is not an enemy, that is a friend.
Speaker 4: There's a couple techniques related to that that I feel
like we would all be familiar with that maybe we
can help share with people. There's a technique in the
world of posting where people will go into the comments
and add more information and they're not talking to the
you know, to the opere they're talking to the people
who are arriving and looking at the comments after seeing
the original tweet and seeing the commentary. And I think
that's probably the most effective to dovetail and reinforce your point.
Is the most effective way to communicate this is not
to attack people for not you know, using all the
slurs that you want to hear and putting parentheses around
everything as if it was twenty sixteen. And it's like
you're blowing our minds, dude, you know, wow, only only you.
We're so glad that you're here to share this information. Yes,
we know, like when we say yes, yes he is,
we know, like, come on, use a little discret. But anyway,
point being that like you can yes, and and provide
more information for the folks who are arriving without it
being this confrontational thing because no one cares like and
and it doesn't it Keep the pressure on, keep the
pressure on, keep pushing these points, but maybe think a
little bit about you know, what's what's gonna what's gonna
turn more people off then it's gonna turn on, and uh,
think about that angle, like how can how can I
get more people to look at and take seriously this
information that I'm providing or click through on something versus
you know, being combative online, which is pretty pointless. Let's
be honest, Yes, the only people.
Speaker 2: That it's worth being compative online with are uh, you know,
assholes like Representative bake As we show that's your target.
That's what you need to be focusing on, is disloyal
congressman who will not implement the will all the American people.
Speaker 4: Let them publicly as well.
Speaker 5: Conservatives people like Ben Shapiro and the Babylon d people.
Speaker 3: Well honestly think that like change is going to happen
overnight in the absence of you know, a strong man
coming to power and just yeah, basically saying you're going
to have to kill me. I'm going to change all
of this. It's going to take time. And the most
important thing is is that not that we convince people
in the chat who you know, are just screaming, you know,
who are the kind of people that if you invited
to Thanksgiving dinner, you'd probably kick them out because they
probably bring up the Jews in the first like two
seconds that they were there. But you're looking to influence
people who actually have some level of power and influence,
and people just don't get that, you know. I mean,
I'm I think it's funny when when I see people
going at people online and you know, pointing out that
they're where they're obvious, trying to use terminology, not use
certain terminology here where they're obvious. Loyalties lie. But sometimes
you just have to play that game a little bit
smarter with certain people.
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, so we've got one more thing to cover,
and that is yellow Stone, which is this TV show
that people watch or something. Who wants to take this?
Speaker 5: Okay, I want to take this first. This show, even
though people like us rightly are going to laugh at it,
it's very very significant for conservatives and for Red America
in the sense that like Dirty Harry and like a
lot of institutional stuff before it, in an age where
a lot of the films are really like liberal direk
this is putting a very conservative face on what is,
at the end of the day, the ideas of our enemies.
This is an institutionalized version. Okay, we're going to tell
a story of anti colonialism. We're gonna tell a story
of the white man willingly signing over everything that he
has built, everything that his ancestors built to the POC,
and the POC are going to, you know, lob and
respect him. He was one of the good ones. You know.
This is exactly what is being sold to people, and
it's it's fundamentally it's race suicide. But it's also just
completely false. Like people have pointed this out. If you
actually gave a giant ranch to one of the various
tribes that just turn it into a casino, like this
notion that conservatives love of being anointed essentially like king
of the POC. Right, It's it's ridiculous. We know it's false,
but there's something in these people that they really really
love this vision. And that's exactly what Yellowstone is selling them.
That's exactly what the more competent writers in Hollywood are
selling them. You, the right wing conservative, white right wing
conservative can be one of the good people. You can
be the guy who stepped up. And this message has
to be destroyed. This has to be mercilessly ridiculed because
this will if unchecked, due to a generation of people.
What was done with all the you know, the Black
Buddy Cop shows right where it's like, ah, well, you know,
I you know, I don't like them violent people, but
really they're just held down and they could be just
like us. If we just gave them some more affirmative action,
we gave them some more programs, you know, some more
community policing, it'll be okay. That's exactly the message that's
being sold here in a different way that if you
hand a man bravely hand over the reins to the
colored world, that they will love and respect you for it.
And it's it's suicide, there's no other word for it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it would be destroyed instantly. You know, as we
see here before this, I guess one of the main
characters comes in undoes with these vandals we're just doing here.
I mean, this is the big problem we face in
media is most people only understand the world through these
TV shows and movies. I mean, this is a big problem.
You know, this is the classic problem with World War Two, right,
It's like most of what everyone knows or thinks they
know about World War Two, it's literally all for movies.
They never at best they've watched some really bad history
channel quote unquote nonfiction, right, Like, literally that's how people
comprehend the world. So when people watch a show like this,
they literally think it's true. That's how this stuff works.
And you know, right now we don't actually have direct
countermeasures to this stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, one of the things that I but I want
to say it I've been saying for a while, is
that it's not only that it's there are people who
have family land who they goes back hundreds of years
that because they don't know their history, because they aren't
taught their history. Because money is so important. We've been
taught that money is so important at wealth and so
important that the zip code we live in is so important.
There are a lot of white people, heritage Americans who
will knock those gravestones over on their own because they're
going to sell their their families landoff, and that's something
that is even more tragic than having, you know, a
bunch of shit skins come in and do it and
do it on their you know, do it, force them
to do it, or force their way on and be vandals.
Speaker 5: This is exactly the point though, right. It's like, even
in the show, all the erstwhile fans of the show
that are defending this right give you some in universe explanation.
I don't understand. They had to do it. They had
no choice. So it's like that's always the excuse. It's
always the all, well, you know I I had to
do it, you know, I just I had to surrender
to the colored board. I had to join the wrong team.
I had to support decolonization. But you don't. You don't
have to do that. That's the most important message in
some ways that we can communicate. You don't have to
surrender to these people, the conservatives or the liberals, for
lack of a better term, the colored world. You can
hold out, you can resist, You can make it through
this age with your heritage intact. But it requires a
certain level of pride and refusal to engage in this
sort of beautiful suicide.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's it's crazy because this is literally
only things that people buy into because of television. Like
when when you talk to the average boomer, the like
if if you want to like have your mind blown,
go on Facebook and look at all the different groups
and like the AI generated content where they talk about
old TV shows and it's just filled with boomers talking
about how important the shows were to them and how
like their their world. It basically is like, this is
my worldview, this is these are memories of my life.
It's absolutely crazy, but that that's what it is. And
so the only thing that you can really do to
fight this is one for yourself, not consume this garbage too, Like,
find ways that are productive to help encourage other people
to turn off the TV. I've seen some successes in
this that have frankly surprised me because of the TV
addiction that's out there. But it's really important to do that.
And then three, we need to start, you know, getting
our own content out there, because story is powerful. People
believe your brain, your little lizard brain, cannot tell the
difference between especially if you're on SSRIs, cannot tell the
difference between like the people on the screen and people
in real life after a certain level of consumption and
absorption into this, and so you might as well be
the people that are that are actually creating the content,
which is why we need a twenty four episode anime
on the Spanish Civil War.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, you know. Actually, one of the things I
have open in my browser tab right now is I
I backed on I don't know, it wasn't Kickstarter, but
I backed this always with Honor graphic novel that Passage
Press is publishing. And Yeah, that's the kind of thing
we need to be doing. I mean, that's that's one
step in the direction of the kind of thing you're
talking about, is telling our own stories as they actually
were and not framed as this liberal slop. I mean,
as we mentioned with the boomers earlier, I mean, people
literally believe this stuff is true. It's like the TV
is more real to them than real life. They act
like any of these characters actually had agency, but it
was all just written. It's not like the characters and
the show had any choices at all. They're scripted.
Speaker 4: It's like, Yeah, they talk about them as if they're
actual people, and they get passionate about it, and they
get really mad at you if they get really mad
when you point out that their worldview is based on
fictional television.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, you know, it's it's fine to
have I mean television and stories or whatever. It's like
we low things like The Lord of the Rings. C. S.
Lewis's books. But your worldview should be informed by Christianity,
not a television. The television can facilitate that. Obviously he
has been utterly subverted, but no, we need to have
our own stories. Spanish Civil War anime that would be,
that would be truly epic.
Speaker 4: The Great Spirit told me that you were one of
the good whites. It's like every boomer's dream.
Speaker 3: Coyotes. Coyotes say, you give me fire water. I do
anything you want.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, not me, not you, says he's got an
article about this one. I was sub stack. I don't
remember the title of that one, but yes, I also
chill again my article coming out tomorrow, which is about
the stuff we were addressing earlier in the podcast. That said,
I think we've exhausted all the topics for today. We've
got I think yet two more super chats. We've got
money Balzac for five dollars gives us a little poem
Spurg not for whom the spurg Spurgs, it's Spurgs for
the truly amazing stuff there. A real artist, maybe you
could make one of these animates. We're talking about Enrico Palazzo,
a bourgeois perversion for two dollars. I guess he's just
talking about tea in general there. So yeah, that's it
for super Chats topics. So thank you mister doll for
joining us. And I guess we'll start with upright, Pete,
what do you got to show for us?
Speaker 3: Just dropped an episode with the Gentleman that Mellan and
Jay Ford have been working with, and I think Curtis
is another member of the OGC has worked with up
in North Carolina. Check out their story what's going on there?
I have an episode. I won't have a new official
episode out until I dropped two in a row, which
I normally don't do until Sunday night, but I recorded
it last night with a former Pony Express radio guest,
Philos Miscellany on the life of Bernard baruk Ooh, which
I think people will find very.
Speaker 2: Interesting, very interesting. Indeed, mister Dahl, do you have it
in the shild Sir.
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, of course by book. So yeah, I'm I'm
an author and I have two novels out. One of
them is Faction, which is more contemporary. It takes place
primarily in the nineties. But my most recent is Faction
with the Crusaders, which is a tale of the Spanish
Civil War. The I've done a bunch of shows with
Pete on the topic of the Spanish Civil War and
research and findings that I've found because I had to
dive deep into Spanish language primary sources and they like
Thank you very much for linking to purchase my book.
That's the primary way to support me. I also have
a Substackcarl doll dot substack dot com where I have
tons of articles from that original research that I've done.
So thanks thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on and Spader.
Speaker 5: Well you can find the Old Glory Club's substack. I
host the History Show, which we record episodes of periodically.
The last one I just did with The Prudentialist is
really really good. I recommend all of you check it out.
Speaker 3: Oh you know, it's really weird. It just sounds like
your microphone is a little bit noisy.
Speaker 4: Oh really, I didn't notice it.
Speaker 3: H huh, I just noticed that. Weird.
Speaker 2: We'll have to look into that for after the show,
I guess. Anyway, Yes, Millennial December twenty seventh, American Banquet
Old Glory Club people are going to be on check
it out on Odyssey. I think you stream on Twitter
to but you can find it. You guys are smart.
And with that we will sign off. Thank you everyone
for your super chats tonight and for listening