WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:16.719 Has anyone seen Locky Galvin? Has anyone seen Phil Gold? 2 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:21.920 Has anyone seen James Graham? Has anyone seen Cameron Seraldo? 3 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:26.839 Has anyone seen Jason Taylor? Has anyone seen Locky Galvin? 4 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:32.359 Has anyone seen Phil Gold? Has anyone seen Bulldogs' Instagram? 5 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:36.119 Has anyone seen the kennel? Has anyone seen Phil Gold? 6 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:37.119 Ha? 7 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:40.399 Has anyone seen Locky Galvin? Steven Gary, Welcome to West 8 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:42.320 Tiger's Podcast. Four hundred and twenty four. 9 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:47.600 Holy smokes, but a start. That's amazing. That was totally unrehearsed. 10 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:50.679 Well done. Yeah, I think we should just cut upon 11 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:51.880 there and we just released that. 12 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:55.520 Now I'll explain that no one will understand that. But 13 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:58.600 I follow Talk sport over in the UK and their 14 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:01.679 late night show This is at Night show. They do 15 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:04.319 that to wind up in opposition, and I thought, what 16 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:08.079 better way boys going into a bye week, a little 17 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:11.920 bit of lighthearted banter, get one over the enemy, Gary, 18 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:15.879 I mean, Sunday night we did the collab podcast and 19 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:17.920 Rob told me to behave I mean, of all people 20 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:19.760 to tell me to behave, So I've saved it for 21 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:20.560 Wednesday night. 22 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:23.519 This well, and I had to listen to the West 23 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:27.200 Tigers podcast, and I can tell you Steve Stretton didn't 24 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:30.239 behave when he got on on Monday night when he 25 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:34.040 started talking about lockey Galvin, he gave him a right Royals, 26 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:35.200 which I quite enjoyed. 27 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:38.560 I may of us or aty spilled my beans. I 28 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:40.879 didn't know this was coming, Steve. 29 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:43.519 I was standing and applauding when I got to that point, 30 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:46.840 because it was very he might notice is a very 31 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:50.359 different level of maturity and humility in hosts compared to 32 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:53.760 Monday night to tonight. But I was standing and applauding 33 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.120 with your Galvin rant, and I thought, in all seriousness, 34 00:01:57.159 --> 00:01:59.840 it was a very very strong podcast for your voice. 35 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:03.640 But I was happy that you ripped in with about 36 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:09.240 eight minutes to go. Well, you know, any opportunities do and. 37 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:11.639 He deserved it right And it could have gone the 38 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:13.680 other way go and could have played the house down 39 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:17.919 and would all be sulking because of that. But he didn't, Steve, No, 40 00:02:18.039 --> 00:02:20.159 he didn't, and he didn't want to. He didn't want 41 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:22.960 to go near the football. You know, not only not 42 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.800 only was he absent, he actually dogged it in that 43 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:29.960 whole game, and I exemplified it in that last part. 44 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:33.639 But I'm really glad he dogged it, as I kept 45 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:37.719 telling the bench over and over and over again that 46 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:39.680 maybe they should put Toby Sexton on. 47 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:43.039 The key part of it for me, Steve, and you 48 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.120 mentioned it on Sunday night, is his lack of engagement 49 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:46.800 of the line. 50 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:47.560 Now. 51 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:50.280 A strength of his game while he was playing for 52 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:55.280 US was his running game, and he's playing through contact, 53 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:58.680 and he's ball playing through contact and kicking close to 54 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:02.000 the line. All that disappeared on the weekend. And to 55 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.120 be fair, it has disappeared a little bit for a 56 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:06.199 couple of weeks since he went to the Dogs. But 57 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:08.680 I thought we would have seen a guy that engaged 58 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:11.240 the line a little bit more than we did see 59 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:13.479 on Sunday night. And maybe it's the broken hand or 60 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:18.319 the injured wrists or the injured ankle, but made he 61 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:21.280 didn't go anywhere near our defensive line on Sunday. 62 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:26.960 Yeah, And I honestly think it was the the at 63 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.400 the game, the guy doing the camera work at the game, 64 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:32.719 like focusing on him before kickoff like that was obviously 65 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:35.360 done on purpose, because they went to him about five 66 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:38.759 times before actual kickoff started. Once they get out in 67 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:41.000 the field, and you know, as we all saw, the 68 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:44.759 crowd were booing and carrying on and he was rattled. 69 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:47.759 He was absolutely rattled. Then for the first twenty minutes 70 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:50.719 Louill was brilliant. Louis. I just kept feeding the ball 71 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:54.319 to Samuela who just charged at him time and time 72 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:57.280 and time again. And he was off his game. He 73 00:03:57.319 --> 00:03:58.479 didn't want to know about it. 74 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:00.879 So the crowd was doing it. 75 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:02.759 Wasn't just Rache who happened to end up in the 76 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:06.639 in the Daily Telegraph on Monday doing Lucky Gavin. 77 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:08.800 It was the whole crowd, not just Range. 78 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:11.159 But she made a good fist of it. Let me 79 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:12.400 tell you I will sit next to her. 80 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:17.279 Alrighty boys, a little bit of a different midweek podcast. 81 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.160 There's no Quick Steve, so you'll be this very disappointed 82 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:23.639 about that, mortified, and no game to preview, but we 83 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:26.399 will jump around a little bit all over the place. 84 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:29.319 Probably wouldn't have done a podcast Wednesday night if we 85 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:31.199 didn't beat the Bulldogs Gary. But I'm in a good 86 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:32.959 mood this week, as you might have noticed, so. 87 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:35.040 Mate, this has been one of the best weeks of 88 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:38.279 my year. Just woke up on Monday happy, woke up 89 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:41.439 on Tuesday, Happy, woke up today happy, and then I 90 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:43.120 found out I was doing a probly few guys and 91 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:44.160 the depression hit. 92 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:45.800 Then you had to tell Happy to get out of 93 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:46.199 your bed. 94 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:55.720 Well, banter and drama at the game, and you guys 95 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.040 touched on it maybe a little bit on Monday night, 96 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:02.240 Steve with Joel and Nick, Me and Gary did touch 97 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:04.600 on it Sunday because we didn't really know anything about it. 98 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:08.639 But the Tigers last Try celebration. It's obviously been all 99 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.600 over the media clickbait the last couple of days, but 100 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:16.959 he's a talking point, official warnings for the two final 101 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:21.720 brothers and a fine for Brent Naden. Gary, was that 102 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:22.560 a fair result? 103 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:26.759 It's hard to really know. 104 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:31.079 I'm not of Arabic descent, if you've ever seen me 105 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:37.639 on as white and pale skin as they come. But 106 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:40.120 so I'm not going to tell people what they should 107 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:43.279 be offended by when I don't know anything about the sign. 108 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:46.399 So it is a hard one for me to sit 109 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:51.360 here and kind of judge people who are offended by it. 110 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:55.519 But everyone I've spoken to who is from that culture 111 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:59.680 doesn't really have too much of an issue with the sign, 112 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:02.639 will admit most of them the Tiger supporters, so they 113 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:06.000 may be a little bit biased in that regard, but 114 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:10.360 that there's a really Gervaise saying that I always go 115 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.120 back to. Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right. 116 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:17.720 And look, I don't know enough about the sign itself 117 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:22.120 to really have much of a say, but if the 118 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:24.040 reports of it being a little bit of an up 119 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:26.399 yours and that sort of stuff is true, then I 120 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:28.120 don't have too much of a. 121 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:28.720 Problem with it. 122 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:32.040 Well. I have been practicing the sign at home all week. 123 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.399 It's a little bit difficult to execute. My ring finger 124 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:37.639 doesn't quite go where it's meant to. But anyway, but Steve, 125 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:40.199 I mean even the mainstream has been a little bit 126 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:42.199 all over the shot with it. And you listen to 127 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:44.319 guys like I listened to braithon Asta and he'd obviously 128 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:46.600 have a lot of Lebanese friends. And even when I 129 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:48.680 went to school, I had lots of Lebanese friends. I 130 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.319 know it was a different era, but they're quite playful 131 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:55.360 and lighthearted and they are in your face. But I 132 00:06:55.399 --> 00:07:00.759 think the NRL actually used good discretion here. Thought usually 133 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.399 you know the Panthers trainer, it was things blow up 134 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:05.399 and they react to that I think this time they 135 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:07.639 actually came to the right decision. 136 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:12.040 Yeah, I would agree with that. I think a warning 137 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:16.920 to the players on field was a correct reaction from 138 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:19.199 the NRL. I thought Naden need to be treated a 139 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:22.439 little bit differently, Like apparently it was a private post 140 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:26.240 and then from that it became public. But he needs 141 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:28.279 to know better than that, right, he needs to know 142 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:31.439 what can happen, that anything you put up there can 143 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:34.920 end up out in the public sphere as it did, right, 144 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:38.959 So yeah, he does need to be But I suppose 145 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:42.319 I've got a slightly different take on it, and that's 146 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:45.480 from the club perspective. And you probably know what I'm 147 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:47.360 going to say because I'm a little bit old fashioned 148 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:51.720 in this regard. You know, I don't like the I 149 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:53.399 don't like the try celebration stuff. 150 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:53.720 I don't. 151 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:56.360 I just like players, you know, score a try, get 152 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:59.120 back halfway, do it again, stay disciplined, do it again. Right, 153 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:04.839 that's my mindset. So I didn't like what Leui did 154 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:08.000 and what Taruva did with the galv and stuff. I 155 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:12.160 thought that inflamed already hot situation and made it a 156 00:08:12.199 --> 00:08:15.240 lot worse. I copped a lot of flag flat. 157 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:17.639 Because I was on your side, Oh you were, you. 158 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:20.319 Were actually yeah, But most people said to me Louis 159 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:23.040 was all right, Toruver was over line. I actually thought 160 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:25.920 they both cross the line. And I think they did 161 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:28.879 the same like the can every Bankstown supporters are probably 162 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:31.560 the most passionate, and you could say argument and even aggressive, 163 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.519 but they're supporters, right. Supporters is different to the players 164 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:37.799 on the field, and I just don't think they should 165 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:39.320 be doing that sort of stuff. And I think our 166 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:42.399 club behind closed doors should really be riding the riot 167 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:44.879 act and saying this is not acceptable. It's not the 168 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:47.960 standard we've bought, unwanted attention to ourselves. It's not the 169 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.720 look we want. And there'll be a lot of people 170 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.360 probably saying, oh, you've been too serious with it. But 171 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:56.399 I don't know, what do you guys. 172 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:00.759 Think, Steve, You and I were sitting at the Paramatta 173 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:05.159 game at Combank Stadium earlier in the year, our home game, 174 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:07.440 I can't remember which one it was, whichever it was 175 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:10.960 these the Monday game, and there there were some West 176 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:15.039 Tigers fans absolutely giving it to the bench of Paramatter 177 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:19.879 and the Paramatta players were actually standing up and almost 178 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:24.120 to the point of calling the supporters down to have 179 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:27.240 let's say, a heated discussion with them, but it would 180 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:30.519 have been more than that that got to that level, 181 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:34.919 and we didn't see any news reports about it. We 182 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:38.960 didn't see any articles about it. And that was players 183 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.320 getting to the point where they were yelling abuse and 184 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:45.200 calling players down. And I'm not justifying the behavior. The 185 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:49.279 behavior from the West Tiger supporters who were shouting the 186 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:53.240 abuse at the Paramatta players that we heard was was 187 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.080 way out of line, to the point that I actually 188 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:59.759 contacted the club and put in a complaint about that behavior. 189 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:05.080 But the Paramatta players on that occasion were actually aggressive 190 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:08.320 towards fans and we didn't hear a word about it. 191 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:11.600 So I think there's a little bit of a case 192 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:12.799 of double standards here. 193 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:17.360 I know that it was a very visible thing and it. 194 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:20.559 Was players actually on the field, and it probably got 195 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:24.399 more media due to that. We didn't hear booth about 196 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:29.039 Paramatta players getting into verbal arguments with play with fans 197 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:30.639 in the stands on Easter Monday. 198 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:34.480 I you know, I don't want to wrap journal, Steve, 199 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:36.320 but I actually thought there was a good article I 200 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:39.240 was today yesterday by Michael Chammers, who is of Arabic 201 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:42.519 descent who sort of played it down, who said and 202 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:45.200 I even saw I know it's player to player, but 203 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:48.960 I saw a photo of Jacob Krraz greeting Adam Dewey 204 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.679 in the warm up with the same gesture and laughing, 205 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:54.600 and they're two Lebanese guys, So I know that's player 206 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:57.240 to player. And I know inciting the crowd is always 207 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:02.240 dangerous territory, but I think in the context of West Tigers, 208 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:05.039 I know it's I get what you're saying, where you know, 209 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:07.720 you score a try, and I think rather than you know, 210 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:10.240 walk back to halfway and concentrate, at least celebrate with 211 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:13.000 your teammates, not celebrate with the crowd. That's what we 212 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:16.399 try and do in cricket is encouraged you to celebrate 213 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:19.240 with your teammates, don't go on an individual celebration by yourself. 214 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:22.840 But in the context of what Canterbury have done to 215 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:27.559 us and their supporters, like let's remember Cameron Serroudo knocked 216 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:30.360 us back last year, we had that over line. They've 217 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:34.480 taken our best young player, Phil Gould is Phil Goold 218 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:37.679 and the Bulldogs fans would have been antagonizing them for 219 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:40.639 seventy five minutes. Brent Nadan, Yes, he went over the 220 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:43.639 line with your Instagram post. I will say those Instagram 221 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:47.039 posts by Taruvera and Naden go to it's called you know, 222 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:49.320 it's a green circle Instagram. They go to your close mates. 223 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:51.159 They're obviously not very close mates because one of them 224 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:52.879 sending it on to someone who sends it on to 225 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.399 the media. So hopefully they've learned a lesson by that. 226 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.320 But what I'm saying is I reckon. If I scored 227 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:00.399 that try, Steve, and I hope I'm never out there, 228 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:02.919 but if I scored that try, I might have considered 229 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:05.559 doing the same thing. Because these people are humans, They're emotional, 230 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.919 and I think this will create a really big rivalry 231 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:11.799 and the NRL be licking their lips about that. 232 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:16.200 I can't argue with any of that. That's everything you've 233 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:20.120 said makes perfect sense. And I can't be hypocritically either, 234 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.759 because I was extremely emotional on the weekend and given 235 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:27.200 it too. But it was lighthearted. It was lighthearted. But 236 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:31.399 I just think I suppose my only point is this 237 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:37.080 as a club, as a team, we lack discipline. We 238 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:40.360 lack discipline on the field. You know, you could say 239 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:46.080 we lack discipline across the club historically. I just hope 240 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:50.919 that we respect the need for discipline. I suppose that's 241 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:53.159 what I'm saying. Yeah, And look, I'm being a party 242 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:55.320 pooper and I can't argue with you any You make 243 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:59.120 a lot of sense, but I would just like to 244 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:00.879 see this be a little bit more discipline, a little 245 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.240 bit more reserved, I suppose. 246 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:06.039 Okay, Well, I just think look out for those two 247 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.519 games next year because they will. The reason I'm getting 248 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:12.240 my shots in now is I know they're going to respond. Canby. 249 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:14.720 They're a strong club with a great fan base, like 250 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:17.519 a really great fan base, and if they had done 251 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:20.000 that to us, I wouldn't have gone and complained to 252 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:21.440 the NFL. If I was a fan, I would have 253 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:23.240 just said, well, it's there day, good luck to them. 254 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:26.120 Carry on how you like. But boys, let's stop talking 255 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:29.759 about that. Let's go to Adam Dewy because he is 256 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.799 beating the news again Gary. He had an outstanding game obviously. 257 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:37.360 On Sunday, rumors that the Tigers or it was quotes 258 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:39.879 actually from Shane Rigson on Monday that there is a 259 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:43.480 two year deal now on the table, and Rich I said, 260 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.159 that's our final offer. There's no deadline on it, but 261 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:49.840 it'll be up to Adam. Where do you think this 262 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:50.519 is going to end up? 263 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:55.960 Well, apparently the Dragons are about one hundred and fifty 264 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.000 thousand more season than we are that they're apparently about 265 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:02.639 five hundred thousand for each of the two years, and 266 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:03.279 we're at three. 267 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:03.919 Hundred and fifty. 268 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:09.399 For where we stand as a club and what Adam 269 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:11.840 has shown for us over the last couple of years, 270 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:14.240 I think that's about the right offer. I'd go to 271 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:17.679 probably four hundred thousand, but I don't think at this 272 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:19.840 point in time we're a club that can really go 273 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:25.480 much higher than that. And I don't want to take 274 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:27.480 any credit away from what he did on the weekend. 275 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:30.279 I thought he was fantastic on the weekend, But we 276 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:32.639 have seen these sort of games from him in the past, 277 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:36.039 and the consistency in that sort of role has been 278 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:39.159 the issue for him in the past. To go much 279 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:41.679 higher than that, I want to see him playing at 280 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:44.960 that level regularly, and we just haven't seen that from 281 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:47.600 him yet. And that's to take nothing away from his 282 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:49.879 last month of football. His last month of football has 283 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:50.480 been excellent. 284 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:54.279 It's tough, Steve, I mean, I sort of changed my 285 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:57.000 opinion on Adam. Do you every week you know, you know, 286 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.879 every three weeks for the last year, But I know, 287 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:03.080 like your cricket, so I just use a little cricket analogy, 288 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:06.320 like he's a really good footballer. And when I say 289 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:08.200 cricket is a really good cricket is it's not because 290 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:10.480 they're good at one skill. It's because they're good at 291 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:13.000 several skills with the fielding, bowling, batting, like Adam Dewey 292 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:16.000 has proved this year. He can be a decent center, 293 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.919 he could be a decent lock, he can be good 294 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:20.799 in the halves, he could be good off the bench. 295 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:25.559 Like to me, the way the game's going, that sort 296 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:28.039 of a player, maybe it is worth more than three 297 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:29.159 out and fifty thou a year. 298 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:32.840 Yeah, I think it is. And the one thing you 299 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:35.480 haven't mentioned there that I think it's hard to put 300 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:38.879 a value on. But he's a Tiger. He loves the jersey, 301 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:41.320 he loves the club, and he supports support the team 302 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:45.279 when he was younger, and there's something in that. You know, 303 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:47.200 when we've had a season where blokes have said they 304 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:49.039 don't want to be part of the club and walk 305 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:51.440 down on us to have a bloke actually wants to 306 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:55.919 be there and his preference is to stay. Whether he'll 307 00:15:55.960 --> 00:15:59.240 stay for less, I don't know. R There's got to 308 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:01.559 be some value based on that though, that we're trying 309 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:04.240 to build something and he does have the sort of 310 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:07.879 mindset and attitude love for the club and the jersey 311 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:12.120 that we're looking for. It is a hard one. I'm 312 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:15.159 probably I'm probably agreeing with both of you. I think 313 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:17.519 he's worth more than three fifty. Is he worth five hundred? 314 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:18.480 No? 315 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:21.639 Probably not. Would I pay up to five hundred probably close? 316 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.679 Probably close from what I've seen, But more than from 317 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:29.559 what I've seen. It's the versatility that he's providing now. 318 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:32.120 That's where his value is, not his last month of 319 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:34.840 footy or his last game on the weekend. It's that 320 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:39.679 versatility that he could play thirteen for us, He can 321 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:41.840 jump in at seven or six if we need it, 322 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:45.480 and if it's gained specific as I said the other night, 323 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:49.559 he can play fourteen for us if he's got the 324 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:53.759 attitude for it. You know, he's a pretty important guy 325 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:55.799 on the roster actually, when you look at it like that. 326 00:16:56.320 --> 00:17:01.159 If he can maintain his form. 327 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:00.600 A couple I think Steve. 328 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:05.000 He has now called out Shane Richardson at least once 329 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:10.119 in regard to his contract negotiations, and for me, that's 330 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:13.480 not a guy that necessarily shows his love for the 331 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:17.759 club in the correct manner, like going into press conferences 332 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:20.480 and saying you'll have to speak to Rito about my 333 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:23.880 contract and all those sort of comments. I don't think 334 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:28.400 is a really good look. And at this point, I 335 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:30.720 think there's a couple of positions he could slide into 336 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:34.079 in our squad next year, and if he's continuing the 337 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:37.599 Hars continues, one of those is potentially the number seven jersey. 338 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:41.279 But at this point he doesn't own any of those spots. 339 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:44.839 And I'm of the belief that with Appy at the 340 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:47.440 point in his career he is, that fourteen needs to 341 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:49.920 be someone who can play hooker, and I don't think 342 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:51.759 Adam can do. 343 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:52.680 That role for us. 344 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:56.160 So if he doesn't fit into that thirteen spot, if 345 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.880 he doesn't fit into that seventh spot, and he is 346 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.000 a backup in all of those positions, and I think 347 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:04.960 would get plenty of games because he can play so 348 00:18:05.079 --> 00:18:08.079 many different positions, and pretty much anytime we have an injury, 349 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:12.359 he comes into that squad. But I just don't know 350 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:15.119 where he fits into that squad for next year, and 351 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:20.039 that's why I'm reluctant to go five hundred thousand or higher, 352 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:22.480 because I just don't know where he fits at this 353 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:23.240 point in time. 354 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:26.759 I think your point on his attitude is a good one. 355 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:29.319 But we know that about Adam, do you. We know 356 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:31.759 that's what we're going to get from him, and he 357 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:35.400 probably comes across a lot more or a lot ruder 358 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:38.880 than it. It's probably meant to, you know. I dislike 359 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:41.799 totally those times he said I'm a six and if 360 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:43.240 I don't get six, I'm not interested. 361 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:43.480 Right. 362 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:48.000 That's that attitude is terrible, But I think that's part 363 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:50.759 of the whole package with him. I think he believes 364 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:54.359 in himself and he's got such a strength of character 365 00:18:54.440 --> 00:18:58.160 in going out there to prove himself. He does back 366 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:01.079 himself and he doesn't shy away from blokes like rich 367 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:03.319 A lot of people would run away from Richel. He's 368 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:05.720 a pretty scary sort of dude, right, But I don't 369 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:07.440 think Adam do He would. And I think a him said, well, 370 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:09.839 you know, come on, come on, Richard, you show is 371 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:13.279 what you got type thing that's Adam doing. I'm not 372 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:15.599 defending him really because I tend to agree with you, 373 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:19.160 but I don't know. I just said enough throwing to 374 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:21.519 think he's worth having in our squad. I'd do it 375 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:24.839 at around I'd i'd pay four fifty. I'd go to 376 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:25.400 four fifty. 377 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:28.519 I reckon one hundred percent. I won him here next year. 378 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:32.680 I think, like a month ago, I would have been 379 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.680 happy with that one year deal at around the three 380 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:36.799 hundred and fifty thousand. At that point, a lot of 381 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:39.680 people were ready for it to just let him go. 382 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:42.920 I'm actually quite happy they have extended that to a 383 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:44.799 year based on the form that he has shown over 384 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:48.640 the last month. But there has to be that kind 385 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.119 of limit somewhere, and I think if he can get, 386 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:56.759 especially a half spot at five hundred thousand at the Dragons, 387 00:19:57.079 --> 00:19:59.960 I think that's a very hard offer to kind of match. 388 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:02.839 But they're not offered him a half spot. That's the 389 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:04.359 sticking point. They've told him. 390 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:06.640 He'll be actually spot here. 391 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:09.279 No, he potentially has a half spot here, but it's 392 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:11.599 a little bit less money, So I guess there's a 393 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:12.759 decision there for him to make. 394 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:17.000 In fairness to the Tigers and rich O Steve, like 395 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:19.000 I'm just looking at it. Adam Dohoe has been with 396 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.920 the club since twenty twenty, so this is his sixth season. Now, 397 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:27.119 he's played eighty three games, and my rough math says 398 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:29.440 total amount of games in six years is about one 399 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:31.920 hundred and fifty, so he's played just over fifty percent 400 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:36.519 of the games. Obviously it's not his fault he's getting injured, 401 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:38.200