Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Geek
First Podcast. Welcome to the six hundred and sixty eighth
episode of the gek First Podcast. I think that means
Superman is going to be episode sixty nine, six ninety nine.
That's great. We've got to use that thumbnail too. You
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Speaker 2: Do we still peak this week? Which is do those
not get numbers?
Speaker 1: Those don't count, those don't count? Those are we try
to like obviously these big things or all of us together?
Do we still have the Superman photo.
Speaker 3: Here unless someone deleted.
Speaker 2: All the definitely still have it in here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even though they did release that nice classic poster
that we're definitely used and they've been I'll give that
to them. We'll talk about that Weekly Geek. But they're posters.
Usually when we get to this time, when they're releasing
like the twelfth thirteenth poster, it's not looking good. But
Superman's posters are getting better and better. So wow, we'll
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So Detail says, tell me it's in at least a
seven out of ten. Detail. That's tough for us to
say because we got to say that for the end
of the review. And I know you're pribacing because it's yeah,
that's an ending. So that's that's a tough thing. So uh,
I think it's gonna be all over the map, and
you know, I'm gonna start because I feel like, you know,
start the highest to lowest. But I will say this
go round. Maybe I'm not like extremely low, might say
extremely high. So there you go. Detail, there's a little
Bromner for you. But I'm somebody with my history. You
can go back. We have reviewed well, me and Taylor
have reviewed every Drastic World. Kirklea could make fun.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened could make fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gave him the time and date. Kirkka and
Dylan are just playing tummy stick somewhere. But oh I
missed this review again, damn it. But go about many
great episodes about that or got great stories about that.
So we reviewed every single Drastic park. It's up there,
Dassic World, et cetera. And my thoughts on this if
you haven't if you're a new tim listener, is I uh, drastic.
There's a handful. You have your favorites list and best
of everything like that. But if you were to sit
me down and okay, trust actually, like what is the
greatest film all time? Like critically well made every like that, right, No, Like,
oh well, there's this issue that there's a few I
can name, right, like a Godfather, a good examples like
Departed as a favorite, but like Good Fellas is one
where I say, oh, that's up there, you know, like
a pulp fiction. There's certain ones there, certain you know,
Citizen Kane things like that, where it's like from a
film point of view, yes, perfectly made, and that is
Jurassic Park. I think that's always been one of the
issues with the sequels is they nailed it. They nailed
it the first go around, and it's very tough. It's
even then you look at this movie and other movies.
There's definitely some action that first Drassic Park, but it's
not like an action movie, I'd say, right where the
sequels are all like there's guns, and there's chase and
this and that. So the sequels have been like a
windy road. I think everybody has different films that they
enjoy more than others. I enjoy Lost World, I enjoy
Drass Parking three. I think that's a fun, guilty pleasure.
I like Drassic World a lot more other people. I
think it's gone down over the years, but I like
that more. And then the last two fund Kingdom and Dominion,
had division richers I really did not like. I think
those are some like low tier blockbuster movies, had a
lot of issues. So I was very curious where I
was going with this. And you can check out last week.
We did it in person's cast, which, even if you've
seen the movie, very fun cast. A big thank you
to everybody forgot to say last month was our biggest
month last like two point five years. That episode was
like our biggest episode of the year, like for just
for a one day. So everyone that mentioned kind words
for the instudio cast, we very much appreciate. We will
do it again. It was a fun time. But I
said on that one, I said, my anticipation is like,
you know, it's fine, like we'll see what it is.
But I'm not frothing at the mouth. Neither was I
for those other two, but I guess that helped. I
went in here and I had a good time. I
think here's the best example of how I can talk
about crowd control. Our crowd was full at the end.
It was big clapped or not everybody, but like a
good portray clap. So it was like a venomoment where
I was like, I don't think this movie deserves that clapping.
But yet at the same time, in front of me
there was a full family. Ever Kudoso's parents. Those family
like if the kids talked, is very quiet or wash
them great family, but there's directly to my right there's
the dad and the son. This on probably about five
to six times, but they would just throw his hands
up and he he was like a ten twelve year old,
So that's what you're dealing with. When a ten tell
everyone was like what like like even they were like
their bullship meter is going off, like this doesn't make sense.
And that's where every main character in this movie, they're
not the worst. I think they give them some fun stuff.
I think for the most part, there's little motivations. No
one's getting a deep dive, so it's not like even
Jurassic Park where they don't get deep dives. I feel
like you really feel like you know doctor Graham and
al Ellie and Malcolm ware this you get like little slices.
They also suffer from. Every character has a moment where
they're extremely dumb, like they are aliens out of land
on Earth and they don't know how things work, Like
we need the boat, well lower the boat. It's like,
why wouldn't you like in any situation if the boat's
up high, what do we do you know? Or there's
a mount of sports, I don't care. There's a situation
where Scarjoe one of the best. You know, they give
a different name, but Mercenary and the land. These people
are willing to pay her ten million million with an
m dollars, first excursion, first job she has, for shots
she takes, she misses. There's other circumstances, but you would
think this bounty hunter who you're playing.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that wasn't her fault. I'll defend you. No,
I won't.
Speaker 1: Ten million dollar bounty hunter and you missed your her shot.
Speaker 3: I was like, that was an accident for sure.
Speaker 1: No, those don't if you're ten million dollar bounty hunter.
Those things don't happen on accident. To me, in that situation,
it was very much like just wait a bit, like
don't take the shot now. It's like like take a
second to breathe. So there's many moments where the plot
just needs a character to be dumb, to set up
a scare, a jump, something like that. But I think
you're can have a good enough time. I did enjoy
this more than the last two. I think i'd have it.
I'd probably have it like right now, like Jurassic Park,
Jurassic World three, and then this because three has doctor
Grant and you can't you can't beat Sam Neil, right,
And that's the thing where Scarcho's a great actress. I
think she's okay in this, and I don't think it's
her fault. I think it's the script. I think the
script is very weak here. Obviously we know that this
was a movie that they like just rushed into production.
You can tell that's the other thing. Lots of look
at this isn't a beautiful from thor Ragnrock. Lots of
especially scenery moments where it's like, get away from this,
this cgi is looking bad. One particularly there's a mount
and one particularly on their boat because they're on a
boat and no one's hair is really moving. Marshall, he's
wearing a hat. It's like, it's fine, he's his head's
up there. It just looks like you have gone to
arkadevr town and they're sitting or somewhere like the you know,
some of the dicers. Not as bad like as I
was worried about in those trailers, but still iffy, but
a lot of locations stuff. There's one time we were
there in tall Grass and you knew none of it
was real, and it was. It takes you out of
it especially. I'll give them kudos to the last few
movies where they do use lost cgi, but they at
times try to be like, oh, we're gonna try and
make this as practical as can be, in like a
twenty twenty situation right where this kind of felt like, nah,
we need to get this movie out for July, so
just to do what you're gonna do and get it
out there. So yeah, it's visually not really a good
looking movie. Acting is all fine around the board. I
liked Bailey. I like Ali, but Ali you could ask
him to play a chair and he'll win an Oscar.
You know, you give him a few lines of dialogue.
He's great. He was my fair of this movie. Bailey
was fine, but sometimes he felt like he was overboard
of the smart science guy and Johannes. I just think
they just didn't give her enough personality. And they give
her some like like a little side plot that the
character gets emotional Balt, but we never returned back to it.
It's that character needed a few more once overs, or
you need someone that I don't know, like I feel
like this might be massages. I don't think it is.
Does it sound betef I say that Chris Pratt has
more just natural chemrasry chemistry than Scarlett Johansson. I don't
think so. I think if you put them in the
exact same role, like let's say you write a script.
I write a script tonight, like guy Saves Dog and
you put Chris Pratt there and Scargi there, I just
think Chris Pratt's gonna pop a bit more right. I
think that's just the type of guy is. But Scargo,
she's great like Wadow. She I could argue you should
have won an Oscar for playing a voice on a
phone on her. She can be great it's just that
I feel Pratt has a bit more just like you know,
I don't know. I would say comedic chops because that's
one thing. The theater for a certain boyfriend character laughed,
But for other than that, the theater was very quiet,
and I was very quiet. The jokes in here were
not working. They should have cut about I'll be nice
and say fifty percent. So I think if you're looking,
you like dinosaurs want a fun time. I think this
plays it a lot more safe than Falm Kingdom and
Dominion as far as yeah, you've seen a lot of
the things in the franchise before, and that's one thing
where it's just like, I don't know if I do
really need another one of this because you're playing it safe.
But there's so many tropes like we've seen this before
and this before and this. It's you could start making
a list of Okay, what new was there to do?
And I want them to do the new thing and
we've talked about before. In the first five minutes they
get rid of that new thing of like, hey, I
think it was exciting, Yeah it's gone. So I think
if you want a fun popcorn blockbuster, I saw it
with these guys. Me and Kirkham were sitting together. We
had a great time. I think if you see this
with friends, it's fantastic. If you haven't liked the last
ones and you're not the biggest Drassic fan, or you
just like, hey, they did the first one. I don't
think you need to see it in the theater because
the effects in the dinosaurs aren't that impressive where it's like, wow,
this shot because it all just looks like Uncanny Valley
of Okay, Yeah, there's a dinosaur, but they're not moved,
like they're not real or they're not even like a
practical effect. Also, they're not real, but they're not like
a practical effect. The background's not a practical effect. Probably
the backpack on Jonathan Bailey's not even there, so it's
feeling like someone is very Disney truck Disney plus like
log trucky. So but I think if you're going in
just like one popcorn movie a fun time in the theaters,
you will get that. I don't think it is as
bad or as offensive as the last two, so I
enjoyed it enough, But at the same time, now I
don't know if I wouldn't have saw this knowing what
it was, I would not have cried over any spilt milk.
So that's where I am on that. So, uh, mister Patser,
where are you on Jurassic World Rebirth?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I definitely had a good time at the theater
this evening. I think you said a lot of things
that I agree with and some things I don't agree with,
but for the main point being like, definitely a step
up over the last two Jurassic Worlds. For myself, I
feel like, because I've just been trained over the last
couple of Jurassic Worlds, I'm just waiting for like the
cringe story reveal of like, oh you thought this was crazy, Well,
now we're going to introduce some locust threat or something like.
Like I was just waiting for that.
Speaker 1: Moment doctor he's locked up in a chamber.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like not really a spoiler, but like it
didn't come, which was kind of nice, And it didn't
doesn't make it's like a phenomenal film. It's just like, Okay,
it's pretty we're keeping it pretty pretty standard. Pretty i'll say,
vanilla like plot, and I think that's totally fine to have.
I didn't love this movie.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna give it a number rating, but it.
Speaker 2: Definitely was lesser than what I was expected or hoping
it to be. I should say, yeah, I don't know.
It just seemed like I was waiting for like some
extra bizazz on it. It's like something to really pull
me in. And there was a lot of scenes that
were shown in the trailers. I was kind of getting
frustrated with how many times I was seeing just the
same scenes in the trailers because I had seen so
much ads for it leading up to it, and like,
although I had seen them so much, I'm like, man,
these scenes are gonna hit really hard in the theater,
I guarantee it, And they really didn't, which was unfortunate.
And I feel like they showed kind of like the
main hitting points of like YEA.
Speaker 1: One was like like whether it's a boat or at
the end with like a certain flair, like they should
have held one even though the flares, like we've seen
this now, it's like the fourth time we've seen this.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and like it might be an extreme comparison,
but like part of me was like expecting to get
that like Mission Impossible to Tom Cruise and the sub
type feeling when I'm just like like anxious and like,
holy shit, this is so intense. The t Rex is
like almost gonna eat our heroes. But I just was
never fully like caring for the characters. I don't know
like that. There is minor spoiler's one moment where you
have Scargo and Mershaw Lee and they're just like talking
to each other. It seems like a pretty long scene
and they're just like giving you like information on the
characters and and like that's that, like as soon as
the scene's over. Actually you don't ever like go into
their stories.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like if you were to reveal things
about a character throughout a movie, they decide let's just
put that all in one scene and get out of
the way. Like oh, and that's why. That's why at
one point is like, oh, this is we might get
to some real stuff because we'll tell them sports. Except
so like some good emotional beats. I'm like, oh, this
is stuff that would change these characters' lives, like for
the better, worse whatever, Like they are impactful moments. They thought, Okay,
maybe this is gonna have more emotion too than I thought.
And no, that's where they leave it, like Okay, we're good,
let's get to the dinosaurs, like okay, And I think it's.
Speaker 2: Like a good example of like the actors just uplifting
the material, like like it's just like very basic, but
like because you have Scargo Mershaw Lie like getting emotional
as they're talking about these things, it's like, oh wow, okay,
like we might actually circle back to this, you know,
as the GV meme would go, but uh never never
really did.
Speaker 3: And I think I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I I yeah, I'm a little
bit disappointed didn't quite get to that big banger level,
but uh, I don't know. It wasn't a flop by
any means, and I definitely had a fun time. There
was some log trucky things going on, but like not
really with the dinosaurs. I don't think. I think all
the dinos looked really good, but yeah, I don't know.
In a weird way, this movie felt quick but really long.
Speaker 1: It just kind of U two thirteen just for the
one if they didn't know so.
Speaker 2: But like like there's just scenes that were so long.
I'll break them down when we get to the spoilers.
But like I literally was just checking my watch I'm like,
holy fuck, like we are already an hour in this movie,
and like what has happened?
Speaker 1: Checked his watch about three times.
Speaker 2: And then and then, because I had seen the trailers,
I kind of knew that like how long the movie
was gonna be with just how like what we were
doing objective wise, like what they had to do for
story purposes. So I'm like, oh, wow, we're actually getting
pretty close to the ending here. And then in my mind,
I'm thinking of the trailer scenes that I've seen a
thousand times. It's like, oh, those haven't come up yet,
So I kind of know what's left in the in
the movie. So that made it feel like I could
gauge how far we were. But just there were some
like scenes that maybe it's just because I wasn't driving
with them at all, It really just extended I think
the overall watch and I think you could easily hack
thirty minutes off this movie, like easily.
Speaker 1: Well it's funny because and I don't think this is
a big sploy either, because you have the crew that's
like the let's just call the mercenaries for now, and
then you got the family storyline. Those really could to
be two separate movies. There is a point where they
two towers is where those characters don't interact for I'll
be generous to say half the movie. And I was like,
do you could have just done this separate? Like I
think about the budget. You could say, make some star
of the Dad and then get some kids in there,
make that for like I don't know, one hundred million,
and oh it's like that short. Remember when they went camping.
I guess again, that's stuff I pitched where the g
I probably won't that, Oh they just go camping. It's like,
but I would have like, I think that'd be cool, Like, man,
you're camping and saying like this you're taking a trip
with your kids, and something happens. But sometimes it felt
like a completely different movie. So you probably could have
cut Uh, you probably could have cut the family.
Speaker 2: So yeah, And then I think the last thing I'll
say is like, there was some moments when I was
just giggling at some stupid things that were happening and
whether it's a character decision or whatnot, and like this
is so dumb. But then god, damn, that original just
score hits and I'm like, fuck, Like I I love
the magic of the Drassic Jrassic Park Universe as soon
as that like music comes in, like I was like
humming at power yeah, which.
Speaker 1: They didn't use that much. That was crazy because.
Speaker 3: Twice, Yeah, that's more than any of the other Jurassic
World films. I think out of all three films, I
think they only used it once in the first Drassic World.
Speaker 1: Really could yeah, because the first one, it's like in
the first five minutes when the.
Speaker 3: Park Yeah, but the other ones. That was always my
biggest con is more of these tracks.
Speaker 1: Like so I was surprised, Okay, fair enough, so I again, yeah,
I'm surprised. It's like it felt like, especially times, it
felt like there was notes of it, but then it
didn't fully hit and you're like, well, you guys own
this fucking song. Like it's not like a public domain
thing where hey we got drastic department. We can't use
that theme. Let's do something close. It's like you own
the music span them, like when they are like flying somewhere,
like the first five minutes, like why is this theme
not blairing? Like get it going? Like it's just like again,
we'll talk about next week. One of the best things
that James is gonna did was bring it back or
do what they're doing. Right, Let's bring back the theme,
but we're gonna like update it a little or do
a new rendition like something like that. It's like same
thing as the Disney plus Stars shows. Why the fuck
are you wearing Star Wars music? You know, it's like
I get it at all, but like just like open
up with that and let letter we'll do this thing.
But you know, yeah, anything else.
Speaker 2: Cric Nope, that's it all right.
Speaker 1: I don't didn't even throw, do you guys when we
did the intro, No, you just start talking.
Speaker 3: No, Dylan's here too, Yeah, Dylan's.
Speaker 1: I'm a Jurassic Moose test now because some man did
look like yeah, frenchman too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I'm joined by the man who.
Speaker 3: Just gave his review and the gas later and finally
I'm the Dinosaur mana.
Speaker 1: Take away obviously massive dinosaur fan, Jurassic Park fan. This
man has dress work, logo and his jeep. You know.
So if you again, if you're new, let's go back
a big franchise for him. So did deliver for you?
Lots of new stuff, new cast, new crew, new director,
new dinosaurs, even newton. So, uh where is this in
your not echelon, I guess, but just your overall thoughts sorrow?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's it's big, big franchise for me, and
I decided I got my dad joined along for this too,
which is pretty awesome because the last movie we saw
together in theaters was Jurassic World Dominion funny enough trying.
Speaker 1: To throw me under the bus today because I saw
at them and I was like, oh, you guys.
Speaker 3: I didn't tell my dad what we were seeing tracks
like oh, so this is the first draft.
Speaker 1: And then Madison to shoot me a look of dirty
and like, no, no, he doesn't know, he doesn't know,
And I told you that. And then Tarror spent half
an hour in the concession line trying.
Speaker 3: To find seat five minutes, five minutes, Oh.
Speaker 1: Did you find those receipts? I don't spend a lifetime
because he said that, he told me that, oh, don't
tell my dad or seeing the movie. He in fact
never said a fucking word to me. You know, he
wouldn't even want to sit by his dad, so didn't
where what.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay, do you switch
seats to Kirkland? Kirkland? And I seven you and I
eight you were you could go right now?
Speaker 1: No, two things. The back seat.
Speaker 3: I heard you say that, Kirkland. I heard you say that.
Speaker 1: No, you said, do you understand? Like, no, it's fine,
because how awkward is that Kirkland? If he knows that
I'm before him, why is he cutting off? Also? Who
I got to bum knee right now? I gotta taped
up and everything like that? Kirkland cut me off. I'm
trying to get my seat to step around. Kirkle's gonna
be the pain. What happened last night? When you're like, hey,
where do you want to sit in the car? You
want to beside Masson or I said, we're all people.
I don't care. I said, it makes more sense for
Massess up there with you. But when I get in
the car, no, no, you uh you said up front?
You said up front cast me out?
Speaker 2: You know? So?
Speaker 3: I thought maybe front seat had all the leg room
and everything is the most convenient spot back seat and
not enough room with the car seat. I did your favor?
Speaker 1: Did your favorite dad s Kirklum, saying not mine? You know?
Speaker 3: Is that right? Did you shake your hand Kirklum? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, ill before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this this movie. Like the trailers, they really
showed everything they really really did. There was not much
left to be surprised. With that being said, there were
a couple of their characters I was not expecting, and
a few other things that I can I can appreciate visually.
There are some things that you know, it's it's unfortunate.
I feel like the level of practical effects used on
the dinosaurs from Jurassic Park to Jurassic World Rebirth is
just less and less and less. And I mean it's
gonna cost a lot of money. I get it. I
don't know when comparison to CGI how much of a
difference that is, but I mean it must.
Speaker 1: Be in that well I get. But I think it's
the speed again, right, it's the thing of like if
they want that was the rumor, right, they wanted me
out there.
Speaker 3: It's the speed. Yeah, I know it takes atronics period
of time. Like the first Drastic Parks budget, it's a
sixty three million USD and I get that's twenty years ago.
I understand, well, more like thirty years ago. So I
totally get that.
Speaker 1: Sixty million converted out like nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 3: Right in nineteen ninety three, yeah, So if they were
able to do those animatronics on that kind of a budget,
oh my gosh, be a no brainer. Like even with
a little bit of inflation. Let's try and you know,
get something like that going again, because I think this
drastic park and world practical animatronics, that's where it really
stands strong.
Speaker 1: Right, So the equivalent of that is roughly one hundred
and thirty three, So let's round up to one hundred
and thirty five million.
Speaker 3: Terrible?
Speaker 1: What terrible? And I feel like I think the rumor's
been going around this movie is like Bud just like
two fifty, which was weird because the rumor was there
trying to make this like cheaper and I don't know
what happened there.
Speaker 3: But still cheaper than Dominion.
Speaker 1: I think two twenty five. Yeah, I guess, so it's
so two twenty five, but still so it's like almost
a one hundred million more. But I guess that's Scargoe
and Ali and you pay for them because like at
the end of the day, like I don't know, I'd
say Jeff Gold was probably the biggest person in the
original Jazzic Park, but that's again, that's a whole different
conversation where you could make a movie that's great and
don't need the stars to bank on it. Right.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, but uh, that being said, I I
had an absolute thrill with this movie. I liked it
a lot more than I was expecting. I was gonna
enjoy it, and I think my favorite thing, and it's
easily the I would say, I would definitely put it
probably in my know, I'll say that for the end.
I'll say that for the end. It's definitely the highest
of the Worlds. I will say that much. And I
like that. What World tried to do is just make
the dinosaurs and the characters, and I didn't like that.
That's my biggest con with that trilogy. I like what
the original Park movies did was, Hey, these are dinosaurs,
they're existing, they're animals, and here you go. You just
have people thrown into the mix. And this movie does
a dang good job with that. It's just people on
an objective trying to get from point A to point B,
and they just keep bumping into these dinosaurs doing dinosaur things,
and it's just it's it's crazy. And then it throws
in a lot.
Speaker 1: Of names and being able the whistle mutrain.
Speaker 3: No, like I it's too we don't need to characterize
these dinosaurs like in the first Drastic World. You get
it's cool to see them kind of act like acknowledge
each other. But I don't need to see like the
Mosesaur like eat the indoor and Dominus Rex and the
t Rex and Blue look at each other and then
saunder off on their own paths. It to me is
like this isn't I don't know, it's just it pulls
you out of it.
Speaker 1: It's like, also, you remember these are like there's even
the originals are still like mutated stuff, right, so you
can tell yourself that they're not like real dinosaurs.
Speaker 3: They're like you can't. But this being the same t
Rex from the first movie that was like fighting the
raptors and trying to eat people like it's mature. It's
just it's so different.
Speaker 1: I used to finding the playgrounds. I don't finding the
playgrounds anymore. You know. I used to be that young
hungry t Rex nineteen ninety three jumping off the monkey bars.
Now it's like, yeah, my niece heard, I can't do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't know, I'm not I'm not
there for it. I like, I like the representation of
them just being animals in their ecosystem. And I'm glad
that this movie kind of clarified a few things in
the timeline too, because I pictured this movie taking place
in a different setting, which we'll talk about in spoilers,
but I think the locations that we were going to
in here was great, and there was just a lot
of focus on like just bringing in all these different
types of dinosaurs that was really really cool and just
a little bit of world building, and yeah, like I
don't I don't have much of a problem with our
with our characters. I think there was some stuff that
I was I was chuckling at and I was laughing,
but for the most part, it was Yeah, it was good.
I'm pleasantly surprised by this. The applause at the end,
that's that sent me. I was, you know, cusp of tears,
tears in my eyes because yeah, a couple of people clapped,
A cusp of tears in my eyes when people were clapping,
because it's just like the theater. When I look when
you showed me how many seats were sold, I was like, man,
this is a this is a big theater, and everyone
was in there and everyone was rocking T shirts. It's like, man,
this is just good energy. It's been a while since,
you know, Jurassic Park has had like that kind of
that stuff, Like Dominion didn't have the applause. I don't
like Fallen Kingdom didn't. I don't even I don't remember World.
I don't remember World. Yeah, but no, it was just cool.
Speaker 1: Just everything might have had when I had I remember
drafted World having a lot of pipe. Even though I
went to the drive in for that second time drastic
because I was like Force wakens right, because it had
been gone for so long, so it had that like
kind of oh it's back, new cast, new director. So
that the hood spot.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm I'm excited to give this one, give
this one a rewatch because it's it was really really exciting.
And yeah, just the there was a few moments where
of our characters he gets into like the he he
comes off as it's not a spoiler, Alan Granty, just
the way he talks, uh, And so I like that and.
Speaker 1: I don't care if he was gonna be mad by this.
They say that he like worked with Alan Grant.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, it is like student to understudy or whatever.
I appreciate that. Again, those are the little things. That's
that's fun.
Speaker 1: But Billy, like everyone theorized for months and months.
Speaker 3: I didn't need Billy. You know, he's he's off, you know,
you know, Billy.
Speaker 1: Sorry, who's the other? Who's the kid from the first one?
So I screwed that up? Who's the first?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Eric? Yeah, that'sn't didn't have.
Speaker 3: To be Eric. Didn't have to be Eric. That's that's fine.
I can sleep soundly at night.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 3: He's from the third one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, No, I'm not talking about no, not who's Eric?
Speaker 3: Eric was the kid in the third Jurassic Party?
Speaker 1: As I just said. I just said, I I said
I was wrong. Who was the kid from the first one?
Speaker 3: Oh him Timmy? Oh fuck, he'd be way older than
this character by now, Jesus, like thirty years.
Speaker 1: This guy was.
Speaker 3: Easily in like late twenties.
Speaker 1: No, how I asked kirkle that. When he gave me
the answer, I was quite surprised. He's thirty seven, Yeah,
think guy's almost forty.
Speaker 3: Like he looks good. He looks good. For thirty cents, he.
Speaker 1: Does look good. He looks good, but like he had
great and his beard and his hair. So when kirks like,
yeah he's in his like mid there's like, oh really, okay,
so hey they can say his too. You've been African
play six year old Batman and you say, oh, yeah,
he's he's just looking good for forty five. You know.
Speaker 2: Glad they weren't calling him Timmy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad they were Timmy it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, those those here Scardew delivered that line.
Speaker 3: Those moments again, it's just rivals what we see in
other Jurassic parks where you just get a beautiful what
cool rivals other moments in Jurassic parks like Dassic Park
one and two and three, not two.
Speaker 1: You're saying that there's something in this picture we just
watched two hours ago that rivals the original dresser.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'd say echoes instead of rivals, because the fuck.
It's when they set up a scene with all the
dinosaurs and they clicked that og score in and they're
just trying to set up that that wonder like, hey,
try to be in that situation. That's what it's echoing.
Speaker 1: That was the one a that was like in the
best the Jurassic parks, Like in the best blowjup ever,
and then this was like, so like, what do I
do with it?
Speaker 3: Did?
Speaker 1: I like both hands like it was with the SiGe,
but with the CGI. But that's where it literally just
felt like it was Death Star to Star Killer, Like
you're doing the exact same thing here, and it feels
less like I wish they would have done that moment
of wonder. I don't care whatever, it's there's the same
old one Alan Grant sees the dinosaurs first time. They
kind of recreate that with the music and everything, and
that is one of the greatest scenes of all time.
This felt like the straight to DVD version, like do
that scene, but do a different dinosaur, different setting. I know,
it's like, well, this one's mutated with a cute little tale. No,
like do something some other scenario when when they see
the dimes for the first time, you can get that
moment but not like it's a one to one rip
off pretty much, and I just, yeah, you know, get
me fired up here though I like this movie more
than the other ones. And now already you're making me
mad about this because you're fara drastic.
Speaker 3: Part well in in in defense, I well, go ahead.
Speaker 1: And now oh I was just gonna say that's where
we are. It's funny because I think we're more I'm
more positive on than you, Like I'm positive like you
in as fact I put above other other Jurassic Worlds.
But other than if Ambly wants to see this, I
don't know if I'll ever need to watch this again.
Nau's bad. I just don't have anything like pulling me
to it, you know, like there's I would show. I
don't care. I know, Busie don't like Lost World. I
would still watch the Lost World over this because like
none of these people can hold a fucking candle. Jeff Golbulm,
I'm sorry, Like Jeff Golblam has a character like Malcolm,
Like nobody has that charism and that fun like sure,
you know Julian Moresan. There another great actress, Kurtly. But uh,
that's where I don't know if I'll need to watch
this movie. And because with a fense, just because it's
just got like a basic adventure that the better versions
are sprinkled throughout the other franchise, you know, like even
the Tearodactyl stuff. It's like, well that's the great that
great pterodactyl scenes in dress Word three, you know, like
that's that's the peak terodactyl scene, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and like I just think if because I
don't really go back and watch Fall and came in,
I don't really go back and watch Dominion, I'm going
back and I'm watching that first World that's kind of
my go to, but because that's a fun one if
the open right, Yeah, So this this one, though, I'll
I'm definitely gonna slide it into my rotation because I
mean the first three I probably watched the first, the
first one the most, and then Draft Buak three I
watch more than the second one, but I like the
second one from a kid's standpoint, there's just there's so
much awesomeness and in that film. But but you're right,
like that that scene where that they show all the
dinosaurs and they got that that score kick, and for me,
the iffy part was the fact that it was just
super overly cgi and that's it's a buzzkill. It's a
bummer that they did that.
Speaker 1: Like a fucking Pokemon over there. Sometimes they're moving. I'm like,
I don't think the mechanics of that make any sense,
but all they're mutants, so that's okay.
Speaker 3: Well that's what I'm not sure if they were mutants.
I don't know what a titanus. I think it was
a Titano source looks like in real life obviously, but
because not all these dinos were were mutants obviously on
the island. Not again, not spoiler, not spoiler, but but
I again I appreciate that it was like a mixture.
But in closing here again because I thought this movie
was great. In closing my final thoughts, I'm gonna defend
Zora Bennett here. When she took that shot, the thing jumped,
it knocked her on her backside and she got splashed.
And so you know, just like anyone you go holding
that gun, you're gonna prepare the fire and she accidentally
hits the trigger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, million dollars, what a phony? What if I was
in friend there or whatever his name was. Second, I
started to taking the trip like we're fucked. I wasted
my money, you know, like and that he did kind
of waste like I could not believe that for shot
that was I think that's the first. I mean, Kirklum
really laughed. It was the first bit of music. Okay,
I just regularly set up, but that was like, Okay,
what we're doing here. The boat sequence has a lot
of a lot of interesting moments, but should we get
into this. Okay, give you some of the little minor spoils,
not fancy ruin the movie. But I think we've all
kind of say, you've seen the Traders, you've seen the movie.
If you want dinosaurs, go see it. It sounds like we
all Kirkland figure the one. Would you recommend seeing this
or would you not? Where are you in that aspect?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, if you're a fan of Drastic just genre
in general. I think I think it was a fun
enough time in theaters, especially for you know family. Yeah,
it's not too scary.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, i'd seen reviews be like, don't take your kids.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like it's definitely more gory than the
previous previous Drastic World.
Speaker 1: I just only was scary. I think the opening scene
was scary, like that had it, and I thought, especially
you know, you know, let's say break and then we'll
start getting into because that's where we're getting to the
specific spoils, so we'll be right back and we are back.
So that first scene also, I think we all kind
of figured that was gonna be where with the Drex
and everything when the kill happens and the score, and
I love when they panned out. They had the logo
and they we had red smoke, like that was looking
real nice, assign I wasn't cool. I was like, oh,
the whole movies like this, like all the scenes are
like this, It is gonna be kind of scary. But
I don't think they ever got back to that. But yeah,
as you're referring to Taylor, we did get revealed that
they was were kind of iffy as the fourteen or
seventeen years there, but as we kind of theorized, not
the case. It's not the original engine. It seems like
it's the engine that was working for the Jurassic World park,
you know, with Pratt and Howard and everything like that,
and they were working on mutations and new dinosaurs because
as they alluded to in this and in the previous franchise,
that people are getting bored of dinosaurs right because they're
around and that's where the Dres they set up that
this guy's having a snickers just fucking drops the rapper,
which I was just like, I guess it's work, but
it just was a weird set of like there but
they literally have to do like a full on countdown
and again the door on the s Guisina snickers. That's okay,
I just I guess there's two things with this scene.
I think it is effective, but one, I wish there's
just some way other than the snickers because that just
felt like, man, it felt like product places it. Maybe
it's not, but I'm gonna think one hundred percent sniggers
like they made a good amount of money to pay
Jurassic World here. But then two, I get why they
did it because there's lots of we gotta get the
team to get at the beginning. But I don't even
think this scene was really needed. Like I think the
scene was effective at parts but wasn't so good or
I was like wow because they talk about the incident
and really the incident was just one guy getting made.
If if in the previews that's where like even the
Kirklands point, imagine if the preview they showed the one
guy eaten. But then there's like a five minute sequence
of the Drex fox this place. So I was like, oh,
we only saw a bit of this in the trail,
but the full scene is Dan, but no, like literally
that if you sing the trailer, that is the scene
he gets some credits, and that's happens all in this movie,
where all there's gonna be more oh no, next scene,
And that's where I just like, even just it's tough
because they probably knew we're gonna show the Derex in
the marketing all that stuff. But yeah, I don't know
if the scene was really need to be there because
it just it didn't play into the plot and they
have multiple characters say oh, yeah, this place was run
until there was an incident, like from a film take
out the marketing. I think it would have been much
more effective the first time you see the d Rex
is that ending because you would think, oh, it's probably
that t Rex from the river, and then it's like, fuck, no,
that is not t Rex. What is that? I wish
they did kind of hide it, but I get why
they didn't. So, yeah, what do you guys think about
this opening scene?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in terms of it being like the
setup for what I thought was gonna be like our
big bed of the film, which I guess kind of is,
but like really isn't it for majority of it? Like
the d Rex being that, Yeah, I agree with you.
I think it would have been so much better if
they're able to keep that under wraps. But it does
make sense why they didn't do that. I think it's
it's like quick enough of a scene, but it was
just so irolly to me, of like the Snickers wrapper
of like, oh, okay, you tossed out on the ground.
I guarantee you, this is what's gonna end this whole
fucking scientific excursion here, this one guy's rapper, And I guess, like,
if I'm playing Dell's aving to my own point, it's like, well,
that's how mistakes happen, you know, in everyday life. There's
just one idiot that makes a mistake and then you know,
some I don't know, biological disease gets out or whatever
you want to go with. And I thought the Snickers
thing was just super iroll because it was like so
much focus on this one rapper of like they're in
a super controlled environment, everyone's like masked up, and there's
this one fucking idiot that's just littering in the middle
of the lab, like how has this even crossed his mind?
Of being okay? But whatever? And then shure enough, and
like I was kind of okay with the death because
in the trailer it's like, oh my god, they left
that guy in there. It's like, well, he's the fucking
idiot with the Snickers bar. So I feel zero remorse
that this is the guy that got murdered, and I'm
so happy that they didn't open the door for him
because everyone else would die.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like that, like it's like if you don't
use your PP.
Speaker 2: And then you get injured, and you're like, well, that
was your stupid fucking fault if you're not wearing your
own shit. So yeah, that was like egregious honestly, with
just how goofy of a sequence that was. But yeah,
then I was kind of like, oh wow, this is
a very different vibe with just like the red logo,
and it just felt like I was watching like a
like an October horror movie with with that opening of
it just being like the red logo. The music was
really scary. I'm like, okay, like this is this is
gonna be interesting. I'm ready for like an alien Romulus
Jurassic World here, which I obviously didn't get at all.
But yeah, no, I I really hated that sequence, but
I'm glad it was short.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tana, how did you feel about you? Yeah, your
theories of being the going back to the ogog, but
I guess we didn't.
Speaker 3: I thought this was the original for the engine, which
it was. I mean it is the engine, because they
evens had the same engines helicopter from the first park. Yeah,
it's a second the Maserarani version of Engen, but they
had like the og helicopter landing in there, which that
threw me for a loopse like, man, that's the same
design is the one that took them to the park
in the first movie. Like that was pretty sweet. And
but yeah, like just looking at the timeline of things,
so this takes place five years after Dominion, and then
if you go back, I'm assuming it's a seventeen year
mark that puts it within the timeframe of Jurassic World
operating because the last thing I look at, how long
was Jurassic World operating for? Yeah, ten years, seven months,
So this it makes perfect sense. The park is operating
for ten years. For ten years, Yeah, that's what it says.
Speaker 1: So I never thought I went from like a thing
it was like for a few months to like a
year and now to ten years. Wow.
Speaker 3: So it makes sense because they highlighted in here where Okay,
they're they're they want to create new things, and so
they set up this facility and they're just trying to
mutate and do hybrid stuff and create some really disgusting,
ugly shit. And I think that's great. I think that's fantastic.
I'm happy that they're keeping it in line with the
drastic world that they were trying to do with the
Indominus Rex instead of going back and changing like old
with the original park and whatnot. So I can get
a board with that. I think that's fun and everything.
As far as the intro goes, I thought it was great.
It was spooky, it was freaky, and you know, it
definitely was a little bit like, I don't know, the
fact that everyone's in white suits and this guy's eating
the snickers and it falls from his mouth and the
rapper just goes on the ground or whatever and no
one really catches it. But whatever, I can look past it,
because at the end of the day, these movies are
about ment human beings doing shitty things to fuck, you know,
fuck it up, like Dennis Negerie turning the power off
so he can get his barber cel can out to
the docks or you know, just all silly little things, right,
people doing silly things.
Speaker 1: So even the what's his fucking name? Started? All who's
doing with the park?
Speaker 3: Hammond Eve and.
Speaker 1: Hammon, you know, you can justify that he's doing some
dumb shit, you know, oh yeah, oh yeah park in general,
he could use those resources for anything, but now it's
recreate dinosaurs saying I fucking killed thousands of people over
the next.
Speaker 3: Thirty years, you know, yeah, so yeah, And an interesting
thing too when they highlight like why didn't they just
eliminate all these like weird things, like, well, keep them
alive because it's R and D instead of just killing
off like your asset, which goes hand in hand with
y engine. Just let the dinosaurs free in the first,
in the second drastic park the Lost World, because it
makes sense. It's R and D, so keep your things alive. Right,
So you're you know, just killing off your your money.
You're seventy two dollars seventy two million dollar investments.
Speaker 1: So that's why that that's why the d REX looks
like that as a seventy two.
Speaker 3: Dollars seventy two dollars version.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really buy that. I was like, I
get like because it's still seventy two million dollars down
the drain. Though it's not like it doesn't well let
them run free. It's like what does it get you?
And now okay, you can say, well they figure out
this heart and see thing, It's like they didn't know
that seventeen years ago. So just it feels also weird
governmently of like it it's different than a few other
things versus like a few killing machines to be like, yeah,
we're just gonna let that stay on this island. We're
in this wee. The government's like the apparently the un
has gone together in the world. You know, they don't
agree on much, but they all agreed this piece of
land is banned. You cannot go there, which, yeah, I
got so many fucking problems with the dad. I was
like mahersha'll ee when he was like what are you
you fucking idiot? Like why are your kids out here?
Even though it was such a weird beat when he's like,
aren't they at school? And the Dad's like it's summer break,
like what are we doing here? Like he said it
was summer break. He delivered in such like a wet,
hot American summer way. But it was like and because
the dad's all the response, he's like, well, there's like
fifty boats out there all the time, if there is,
where the fuck were any other boats where you guys
were out there, like you's make it see like it's
a common thing that they go across here, And I
don't care. I know, we just we just want to
get to the Atlantic. I don't fucking care if I
know there's a single percentage possibility if right now, let's
say things change, my kid, my girls want to go
to Mission Creek, and I've heard that you know one
percent of the time pterodactyls fly down and steal fucking kids.
I'm gonna go, you know what, We're not gonna go
to Mission Creek right now. We're gonna wait till that's
a zero percent. So when he's his responses, well all
people do it all the time, it's like, fuck man,
And that was the problem. There's so many people in
this movie where it's like, you know, rapper guy, half
these people are mercenaries where they don't really make care.
It's like I feel bad for the kids, but like
you're a terrible dad.
Speaker 3: Is the same thing though, Like you know, if people
know smoking kills you, but you people smoke anyways. People
know that eating we don't processed foods and stuff, like
all the garbage candies out there, like it's it's very
but people do it.
Speaker 1: Processed foods is definitely not the greatest health choice. But
that's different than oh, we're gonna take across the ocean
where something might just fucking inseta kill you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same too, with like the short Battle
of Big Rock, right, like the family shouldn't have been
out camping. But if I say, hey, one room has
processed meats and one room has twenty loaded guns.
Speaker 1: So a tea cans pick an hour in there which
room you are gonna pick, You're gonna pick the fucking
processed meat room every single time. So that's where the
dinosaurs are. Like when he's like, oh, we'll both do
all the time, I mean, I'll have to wait till
you watch it again. It just felt odd the justifications
they're giving them, and I but I liked Mahali just
making them look like an idiot, and that family was interesting.
Interesting family going on there with the choices they made.
Wish they were really in this. I didn't hate them,
but I didn't necessarily need them because I thought, Okay,
there's a dynamic. The mercenaries got to deal with this family.
Now they're doing this venture. How's that gonna happen? Even
we got a little bit in the boat, but then
after the boat they're separated for seventy percent of the
movie until the very end, where it's just like whence
Cargio was running up. I'm just so glad you guys
made it. You guys didn't care, You weren't looking for them,
you didn't give a shit. You did save them, which that
was another thing. When the dad's trying to he felt no,
I guess peel, if you've not seen this movie, Yeah,
they're boating across the Atlantic. It seems like his oldest
daughter is graduating, she's gonna be leaving there. It's him,
so the father, he's two daughters, ones young, like seven
to eight, something like that. And then they've brought her.
Was it Richard or Ricardo or something.
Speaker 3: I can't remember.
Speaker 1: She's a boyfriend. No, the boyfriend, the boyfriend, the Xavier. Okay, uh,
she's a boyfriend where when they open up, they're just like, oh,
what you're doing now? They're pretty much she's his fucking
raw dog and his daughters down while he's driving this boat.
But whatever, So they get the you know, something happens.
Was that a mutated dinosaur that they came across there, Taylor?
Speaker 3: Was that spinosaurus?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that just was it just a pure spinosaurus?
Speaker 3: That's a straight set up one?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I just wasn't sure. So anyways, there in the
water gets you know, bumped, the boat flips. They're waiting,
they got a rady to got to flare YadA, YadA,
YadA or teams going there, like three minutes to location.
But they hear that Mercialley he says, oh we got
to turn around. We got a fun character talk about
l He's like, no, another boat will find them, you know,
just boy to holebroke from Minnan and Jones resurrected, but
we'll get there. They save them, And I just thought
I kind of get it from the dad's point of view.
You had this perspective of we just went through a
huge smag situation. But the gal to like start bossing
these people around who saved your life. It's like they
saved your life. You kinda have to fucking eat cro
here for a little bit. Like if it was not
for them, you and your children would be dead. And
I felt like they just didn't make them gravel. Even
at one point when the boyfriend saved the girlfriend, he
walked to me, He's like, I respect what you did there.
It's like this guy saved your daughter's fucking life. You're
just walking up, like, I respect what you did there.
What like give even if you don't like the guy,
like have them hug them, show some emotion. I don't
know if it's a director or acting pize. So there's
just times where humans acted very robotically in a situation
where it didn't.
Speaker 2: Again, just a couple of tests that I felt like, yeah,
they're like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: For three seconds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're like all right, anyways, and it's just yeah,
I agree with.
Speaker 1: Even Scargo right because she's like it was super fucking weird.
And then I'll pass off. When you guys they set up,
like Kirk said her, Marcially had this whole conversation where
Katelet's set Marshall Lee's divorced because his son died and
his wife and him couldn't figure it out all right,
They set up of like Scargo's friend or maybe some
guy who was fucking which when of my thirat lines
in the movie he died in a car bomb, Marshall,
He's like, oh, at least it was quick, and shows
no it wasn't. So I just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one got me.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to smash and cut to a guy
just burning in a car, like fucking hell, like he's
melting in the car, but either way. And then later
on on the boat they cut like five minutes later,
she's just outside center bio stuff, just just crying, not
like like like balling, but just like clearly remembering memory.
I was liking to say, Okay, we'll get some more
juice on the bone. Uh. And then when they she
they established that, uh, Scargo knows marshal Ley and his crew,
and so it seems like they establish that she's friends
with him, friends with them, like a somewhat caring person, right,
not just a cold blood mercenary. But when they get
on the beach and they've lost two members, she says,
she's like, oh, nothing's changed. Emertually, he's like two of
our friends are dead and then she just like picks
up her bank, like, well, so let's get out of here.
It was super weird where they felt like they did
all of a sudden up to show Okay, yeah she's
accepted money, but she still cares about these people. But
then on the beach, no, she didn't give a fuck
about these people. And same with the family. They made
a big deal in the boat, but ah, they're out there.
I'm sure they'll find the facility. You're sure they were
safe from the boat. They have no guns, say nothing,
and no training. You sure they'll make it to the facility.
Very odd, the whole crew very odd.
Speaker 2: So very odd. Yeah, I'll get my sense. On the family.
I feel like for positives, it was kind of nice
to not just be like, what's the best way to
say it? Like the reason why either on the island,
it's not just like oh, we'll just bring this ket
along and not thinking anything of it. Like it was like, okay,
this is they were just in the wrong place at
the wrong time. I'm with you. I questioned just the
decision to even make that, But it sounds like they
had been making that trip quite a few times, and uh,
you know, no issues until today, but uh yeah, definitely
a parente. And and like apparently everyone in the world
knows that this is like the no fly zone. There's
like multiple governments. Yeah, super legal to go anywhere, like
like on the islands for sure, but it seems like
that's just like no go fly zone on the international
water space. But they're just fucking shrugging along. So just
just the fact that they're even in their tiny little
sail boat. I think they said it was like a
forty footer. It looked like a fucking dinghy out there
and just going through the no flies. Yeah, I definitely
questioned that decision. I hated Xavier so much. Like the
amount of humor that worked for me was minus ten.
Like I was so like, like he comes out of
the boat, and I'm like, I really hope this guy
dies early on in this film. I hope he just
gets torn apart by fucking dolphins. Doesn't have to be dinosaurs,
could be anything. Uh And it never came. And there's
like a really minor moment when it shows that he's like,
you know, he's more than just just an asshole, and
he's having the hard tart with the foul father it's like,
I hope she doesn't see me for who I am.
It's just like, what does that mean? Like do you
fucking murder people? Like like some dexter individual?
Speaker 1: Like it was just shes like, oh, give it time
and you'll see a good guy. But then remember how
that scene ending emotional scene, emotional scene trying to get
make you like.
Speaker 2: I as you know, yeah, so like from the perspective
of the father, like fucking don't let this guy come
on this trip with you. But like he.
Speaker 1: Like when the boat flipped and he was submerging the
water and there's that door, I was hoping he was
just gonna fucking turn the lock and.
Speaker 2: It looked like it was going that road to he's like,
gon't find the radio, go back in there, as he's
like holding the door. So I was kind of headcanning
that was the case. But no, he got out. But yeah,
he's just so disrespectful to the father and just just
every there's bad vibes all around. You know, the joke
that got a few people in our theater. It's like,
I got that bad vibes from that guy. When he's
talking to what's the actor's name, Rupert friend.
Speaker 1: Rupert Friend. Yeah, I fucking love Rupert Friend in this movie.
Speaker 2: He we'll get we'll get to it. But with Xavier,
he's like, he's like, I got bad vibes about that guy.
I'm like, man, you are like just such a piece
of shit. I hate this character that the daughter.
Speaker 3: I guess, Yeah, he hit the.
Speaker 1: Daughter and he multiple times help him with the little sister.
So like when push came to shove, he he wasn't
an asshoor pathetic. He was stuck with the family and
was a hero. So I'll give him that. You know, Okay,
he did right, you say the multiple times he did,
you know, he helped out with the dinosaurs.
Speaker 2: He'd probably have like a convict in that situation, you'd
probably do the same thing too. Some fucking murderer who's oh, there's.
Speaker 1: Somebody that we've seen him before Ruber's friends. Later on
we get to him. He fucking drove out of there, right.
Speaker 2: So I guess, so, I guess so I they did
him being too extreme on Xavier. But just for the
inclusion of the story, it did absolutely nothing for me.
If not, it it brought down points just just having
that character in the film, which is something that you want,
but I mean, you're.
Speaker 1: Just a smiters. Yeah. I was gonna say, yeah he
killed in the theabout if he because I remember when
me and Kurt like we like estas, we acknowledged, like
the first thirty minutes every joke was having, a movie
was bombing in the theater. It was I was like,
this is a quiet theater, like because mostly times I've
acknowledged that I'll be there. I'm not enjoying this, but man,
the crowds loving it were for until Xavier introduced. The
crowd was quiet. They were obviously excited be there and
they clapped at the end. So they got there. But
I'd say eighty percent of Exavier's lines got last from
some people. You know. So, but I did think he
was gonna die the first time when he did go
back to the radio and was swimming back up to him,
I thought they were gonna kill him off right there
before he got back on the boat. But no, he
uh he made it, and uh, you know, the dad
and him kind of bombed. I feel like I've never
seen that guy the dact or anything. And I actually
liked him. I did not like the writing around him.
Speaker 2: But what you say, I liked his presence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just I feel like the oldest daughter
didn't get much, you know, she was like the braver
one until the end. They gave the little girl, which
feels like a very baby gro gu or baby Yoda
likes her, like, oh, we're gonna make this little dinosaur
so kids will want and that was her storyline where
she's super afraid, but then eventually she's not afraid, even
though it's one of the dumbest scenes ever where I'm
skipping to it. But they're locked Our main characters are
locked up somewhere right, and there's like a raptor pterodactyl
mute and it's it's where it's breaking through cevent trying
to get in, so it's okay, could be done for us.
There's these bars they can't get through, and they're trying
to lift little girl. Finally, brave she gets those bars.
I'm gonna lift that gate because there's like a button
out there, right, And the problem is they're like looking
out and they're like open the gate, open the gate.
But then the d Rex walks up. Now you would
think when they're telling you open the gate, they tell
her not to or whatever, because they don't see it. No,
the d Rex is standing in between the girl and them,
and they're so like, open the gate, open the gate.
I know it's not good, but I just feel like
I don't know what's the lesser of two evils right now,
because like obviously got out of there, because well actually
he was plot on right because Rupid Friend crashed in there.
If Rupid Friend doesn't crashed in there, they're dead. But
it was just so funny them pleading with this little
girl to open the gate fast when like the gate
now opens to you know, a d Rex where at
least scar Joe just killed one of the other dinosaurs.
We just saw her murder them. So if you're asked me, hey,
what room when I again, we're back to the room scenario,
the raptor teared actor, the d Rex. I'm taking the
raptor thing every time, but luckily ruper Friend drove into
accidentally save the day.
Speaker 2: So are you taking that, Taylor? Are you taking the
raptor flying thing? I feel like I'm taking the Really
I think I can take the de No, I just
quicker death, you know, like, oh you.
Speaker 1: Think about that perspective.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's the correct, we'll probably the d Rex. Yeah,
he got he got bit in half, and he's still alive.
You know, your brain is still function even though his
waist is gone.
Speaker 1: And unlike the t Rex, like usually that comes down
a big bite. In that opening scene, he just took
that guy and walked away with him. What did he
do with Snickers?
Speaker 3: It's like fucking aliens in it.
Speaker 2: Up alive and just operating on with those little fucking arms.
Speaker 1: When he just took him walking into the red I'm like,
oh man, I don't know if he's killing him. Maten
with him like, that's not a good not a good area.
So I'm with Taylor that the d Rex might play around.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess, So I guess he's taking me away.
And then you make the fucking bird.
Speaker 1: Were you happy to get any d Rex versus t
Rex action?
Speaker 3: I was thinking they were gonna set up something in there,
but again it just goes to show it's the it's
just the dinosaurs just doing their own thing and and whatnot.
I don't Fallen Kingdom it was blue, but in Jurassic
World and Drastic World Dominion it was t Rex both
times coming to save the day and fight the new
Big Bad, and I you don't need that, you really
really don't. Uh just I think they had the t Rex.
Speaker 1: And here was Graassic Park, right, that was the first
one they came to the rescue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it wasn't even it wasn't even like, oh.
Speaker 1: We just it's convenient timing. It was convenient by raptors.
And then lo one we hold the t Rex comes down,
picks up the raptor. They don't get they don't touch
the humans at all, even though they're right. They're just like,
let's let's go to town the raptors. That's okay, perfect.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's I equate that too. When Xavier
was taking a leak and the raptors were sneaking out,
which I love that. You know, we didn't get the
raptors like full on in this in this movie, but
just seeing them there and knowing that they were sneaking
around and stalking around was terrifying. And you have them,
you didan just comes down and kills it and then
fle eyes away with its body.
Speaker 1: They kind of got the Drastic Park dress, or sort
of the t Rex Drastic Park three treatment where they
got jobbed out this time, right, because I was a
big complaint with fans, like all the t rex lost
so easy to that dinosaur and Dresscork three lost minosaurs. Yeah,
that's what happened the raptors here. Raptors lost pretty easily,
and then you never saw him again, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, those.
Speaker 1: Raptor fans out there, he didn't get your fill this time,
but he just got a trilogy. Were fucking Chris Prass.
Speaker 3: All about the Raptor and the trilogy? Yeah, but I
appreciate that these Raptors had the drastic Park three look
to them. It's cool they brought that back. But yeah, sorry,
what was our initial talking point that we were at
special Family? The family? Right right? Yeah, So I saw
a lot of people talking about how they wish the
movie focused on just the family. I didn't have all
the other military stuff, so I think it's definitely like
one or the other or something like that. But that
being said, I I, yeah, I quite enjoyed the family
and whatnot, that whole dynamic of them just being on
a boat doing their thing and yeah, holy shit, like
then a Moses sword just comes up and is like
knocking your boat overboard and whatnot. That's just that's crazy.
And uh yeah, I just think the everything was just
it felt like enter Jaws at this point. That's what
I'm trying to get. It just felt like very very
much watching Jaws. Yeah, rivals Jaws. Yeah, so I'm down
for that. I thought it was great because the amount
of water sequences that we got in here, and just
the peripheral vision as well. I thought that was wonderful.
But Xavier was something that caught me off guard. I
did not expect him in this movie, and so I
thought he was going to die for sure, much sooner
rather than later. But yeah, I liked how he developed
and he grew and he just became a pretty good
pillar for the family as they were kind of like
going through all these adventures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have to deal with some exaviers in
our life.
Speaker 3: So oh, I know. Fuck, that's that's the immediate thing
I was thinking about when we're watching when I was
watching this movie.
Speaker 1: But you know what, at the end of the day,
it's some fucking loser that I hate, and I'm just
going to bite.
Speaker 2: My tongue to my podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah that have to be a Patreon friend, But I
have to go to the top too. To get that.
Speaker 3: But but you know, our mom is supporting their relationship
and stuff, because obviously it seems like these two parents
were separated because they're like, oh, Mom's never gonna let
you trust us with that's right. Yeah. Yeah. So but
with the family, though, I thought it was great and
I like that we got to cover more ground and
explore more of the island and explore more dinosaurs by
having two separate groups. So I I I get a
kick out of that. And yeah, just everything with the
family and the t Rex. I again, CGI, it's not
really there, but I I really really liked it. You know,
if I was that girl and I'm pulling this raft
on this dock, fucking it's gonna be heavy, but pick
it up with everything in your your power, your court.
Don't drag that fucking thing because you know, woke the
t rex.
Speaker 2: Up so it looks so light too. Like that was
like one of those props where I'm like, this doesn't
even look heavy at all, Like it's like just like
flopping along as she's dragging it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the t Rex moved way too fast when the
boat opened. It pulled a batman where the boat opened,
and then she looked at the t Rex was like,
well fifteen feet away, like all right, Like they're a
pretty big creature. I feel like you're gonna hear.
Speaker 2: It move or stupid though, right, this whole thing, and
they don't have good eyes sight.
Speaker 1: It was just that speed though.
Speaker 3: I meant based on movement. Oh that's right.
Speaker 1: I wasn't no, I wasn't saying the t Rex should
see her. I was saying the fact that the t
Rex was where it was sleeping. And then when she
did the boat and put it down, it was gone.
It was like when Batman's like, hey, go on, what's
going on? Batman turns around, it's gone. Like the t
X just fast travel to another pond, you know, So I.
Speaker 3: Like, don't go, go go what do you like?
Speaker 2: What do you like to?
Speaker 3: I just like how they just called back. The first
Jurassic Park was biting through the glass on top of
the Ford Explorer, and this was biting through the raft.
So that's a little comback there.
Speaker 2: I I left so hard. It's fucked up, but I
laughed so hard when it like it does that lifts
up the raft and then it just goes to the
Dad and he's like the most horri like horrified face
because in that moment, he's like he thinks his baby
girl just got fucking destroyed by this t rex, and
I'm like, obviously they didn't fucking kill off the child,
like brutally, there's just blood all over the water that.
Speaker 1: Would have been.
Speaker 2: Delores is just like dead flowing down the river. But no,
it was just like it was just yeah, his reaction
and then she just pops up and he's like, oh, okay, nice.
But man, honestly, this was one uh sequence I was
so looking forward to. I thought it was just such
a cool set up an idea, and it really did
not hit well for me at all. I I hated
the setup of It's just like like, are you fucking
kidding me? Like, hey, the t Rex is sleep right there,
leave the fucking raft, like okay, I don't care if
dad has a bum knee throw on Travis's fucking digital
knee brace, and we'll just walk the rest of the
way or like just float down the river. Because how
long were they even in the raft for before it
even like went to shit, Like the t Rex was
there for like the whole time. They had no like
chance to really get away from it, and then how
fucking lucky is it that it just pops up under
the under the rock and then they're just able to
take it again afterwards. So I guess it ended up working,
but just for like the actual logistics of like, yeah,
we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna somehow sneak through this,
like just I guess it's a family that just loves
taking risks, because it just did not seem worth it
at all for me, this whole setup.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe the t Rex was gonna find them
like later on. I think that would have played better
at least for me personally, because yeah, you have the
the Batman disappearing act just goes, which is such a
human trait that gave us t Rex. You know, you
wake up for a long I guess it's just an
animal trait. You just wake up after a long sleep
just fucking glugging back the water glog glog. Look just
just so thirsty and like instantly he's like, oh, there's
people right there, and he just like fucking chases them instantly.
Like oh, it was just yeah, it didn't play well
for me, unfortunately, because it was a really cool idea
especially hearing that it was was it like shot. It's
not shot or shot from the books, right, it's just
in the books. There's a sequence where the tears in
the document in.
Speaker 3: The in the book, if I remember correctly, Alan and
the kids are on a raft and the t rex
is sleeping and it wakes up and sees them as
they're floating by, and then it goes in the water
and just swims following they're not like setting up the
raft like right in front of him, not that I remember. No. No.
Speaker 2: I also never thought of like what it would look
like to see a t rex sleeping or like a
dinosaur in general, but just looking like a dog on
its back, like probably just having the best dreams. M.
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle. I I I think it's uh
issue of it's not his fault, but Taylor and every
other book reader getting really excited for this scene, and
then when we got it, I was like, oh, okay,
I thought I was gonna get something more. And that's
one thing I'm gonna say. It's probably just because the
rust job I didn't feel that great scale and scope
I was hoping from Garrett Edwards that we got from
Godzilla and Star Wars and just even last year with
the creator or two years ago whenever. There was a
couple moments, but it was not kids funny details said like, oh,
the visuals I thought would have been a positive, and
it's not that there a negative except for yes, obviously
some of those very apparent CGI issues that really sucked.
It's not like I'm saying like a shot bad or
bad angle. I just was hoping for a bit more
with Edwards at the stick and didn't really. So, yeah,
I like the rap scene enough, but it wasn't. I
was saying like, oh, this could be something we talk
about for gold and geeks, and no, it wasn't just
another dinosaur or you know, the water situation. But that's okay,
you know, but yeah, we we're not gonna do the
whole film, but just to get there, they set up
that what they talked about in interviews, dinosaurs can't climatize.
They're all dying out, which again the first ten minutes
this movie, when they show a long neck in the
middle of a street, just dead or dying, I was like,
this is what I fucking wanted. I wanted a movie
we're in the real world and it's it's not just
one t rex with that like multiple things are Like
I thought, like how mundane it was for everybody to
pull like a fucking dinosaurs and road. I was like,
that's fucking awesome. That's so cool that it's got to.
Speaker 2: That pass it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that we've got to that point where dinosaurs are
just around like it feels like there's a movie in
between here again that we missed out on and now
they we can't do it because they did the whole
while they did. Also, I was so bummed all over
when I saw that. But Ruber friends going around. He's
putting together some sort of Jurassic squad and it's because, uh,
they find out they do the cure heart disease. But
his pictures like, well imagine because Gardo's mom died from
heart disease, and just like, well imagine if shit another
twenty years. So of course it's not like a here,
but they keep They've said the twenty years multiple times,
so I guess it's, you know, if you have some
hard issues, give you some more time. They gotta go
get it from these three dinosaurs, and we get Scar Joe,
get Marshalli, which you know, I like that fun little
scene where they like trick him out raising his rent
because Marsh like, I don't know, like I have this
going on, I just can't do it. And even Roop friends like,
I think you guys are gonna fucking me over, Like
oh well what if you are? And then they pay
him the money you got him, you got you on
the bail who's like the scientist you get ed Skiern,
who is just like a I don't know mead heead
but he was somebody. He dies very early in this movie.
I was surprised the boyd Holbrook rip, that's what he said. Yeah,
but his first thing you see some dinosaurs and waters.
Firstly he just gets the machine gun or grenade launcher,
starts going and then fucking dies right away. Poor little
girl to see this guy like pull away and eating.
But I was surprised, like, no, he's the greatest, but
like he's the main viel in Rebel Moon. He's the
main vilain Deadpool. He's it from Game of Thrones. I
thought when I saw him, like, oh, he's gonna be
run for a little bit. But he was our first
vict them of the boat people. I was in shock.
But yeah, we talked about the boat scene. And yeah,
Rupert Friend, he tags a long classic situation. Where why
is he wearing a business suit on this venture? I
don't know. Even when they get on the island, they're
all in jungle gear tech gear thing. He's kudos to
Ruper Friend. He's full of bun down dresser and rest pants.
Like probably was uncomfortable shoot. And I couldn't decide with
this character if Ruper Friend was on purpose leaning into
some cheoting the scenery, or if it was just poorly written.
There was Sometimes there are some facials he was making,
like when the little girl fell and they go back
to him, he's just like he's like washing, he's like
biting his lip in a weird way. But no, I
enjoyed Rupert Friend in here. I feel like he's chewing
he a on purpose because he was in a movie
this year, companion that robot movie one, where was it
The Girlfriend Robot one? He's in there and he's like, uh,
like playing a Russian character. He's a long wig. He's
like a Russian millionaire or something really eccentric, really funny.
So I'm I'm turning the corner on him because I
did not love him and Obi wan if you guys
remember he played like the whatever, yeah whatever the inquisitor
was to hey, what's the main one, the grand adirl
or whatever?
Speaker 3: He oh he played the grand Inquisitor.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh shit. So and for me that wasn't
a great debut. But since I've seen that, I liked him.
And we're gonna get these guys thoughts on the setup
and the whole crew after this next ad breaks will
be right back and we're back. So, yeah, what do
you guys think about the setup of the heart disease
and anything more about the crew that we haven't talked
about already. Ah ah, So moving on back to Xavier.
Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought it was a good
enough setup for our mission. It you know, we need
to get these things to just advance society. And I
think I would have been okay without like the moral
dilemma of like do we give it to the big organization,
like the big pharm of brand it, Like you know,
it's it's I guess, like a human trait to be
like thinking about those things, especially they're like there's just
people dying all around them. Maybe they're they're thinking about
the bigger cause than just the ten million dollars, which
like I don't know if I'm just like a little
sidebar here, but like ten million dollars, like that seems
so low. I guess she did get it doubled. But
like risking your life, risking life in prison to do
this mission, to organize all this stuff, you got to
think of like how much it costs to like get
all these guns and these people and hire all these things.
Like like I guess.
Speaker 3: She's twenty million, but twenty million, I see, like.
Speaker 1: Ten millions worth it depending where you live, right you
go somewhere you have.
Speaker 2: A pretty trillion dollars, and I'm there, come on a
trillion dollars. But no, I thought the setup was good enough,
and it just felt very very video gaming, but like
not in a bad way at all. And that's why,
like I was saying earlier, like it seems like I
could really gauge where we were in the story. It's like, okay,
first first boss is the Mosesesre. We got to collect this.
You colleck that item, and then you go to the
next one, and like it was just advancing the story
in a very like, uh just linear way. But like
to me, that totally fit. I didn't. I don't know.
It just seemed like it was a simple way to
tell the story, and I was totally okay with that,
so I actually really dug it. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't really have much more to say on that
other than just h yeah, I found a little bit
cheesy and like Scar George just be like, so who
should we give it to? And they're like, well, that's
your decision, and then they just like kept saying that
like like a few more times, and I think they
just I think they just really were hammering on and like.
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do?
Speaker 2: Well, fucking Rupert friend is gone, So I don't even
know if you still have that deal anymore. I don't
know if anyone else on the company even knows this
fucking going on. So, but yeah, what do you think, Taylor?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the I think the mission was it
was fine. I think you're right, it's definitely got a
video game he kind of vibe to it. But uh No,
I liked it. I like the the idea they got
to go hit up these three massive dinosaurs, and again,
it felt very adventurous, the emphasis on water and all
these dinosaurs being in the water, I like, because you know,
amphibian DNA kind of a deal, so it makes sense.
But yeah, again, we've seen the trailers, so we already
knew everything that they were kind of tackling in this,
which again it's fine, but yeah, the getting heart disease,
I think they mentioned that in the trailer and funny enough.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I guess that's.
Speaker 3: The one guy that got killed who was in not
Obi Wan oh my god, the Rebel Moon and and
the other's ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He his death was revealed in one of the trailers.
I believe. I'm not kidding because I was a spoiler.
They're like, what's that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think it gets chopped like in the trailer.
Speaker 3: Like it's like, yes, that's right, that's right. So they
were saying, like spoiler, it's safe to say he's probably
not gonna make it. So yeah, bold bold for shit.
Speaker 1: You need to age in my man, you know, you
don't deserve to be the first crew Like that guy's
been in way more stuff than those two other people
that died after him, like the lady who for some
reason gets stand on the top of the fucking boat
even though she like fell toil.
Speaker 2: Like in introduce her either of like, here's ed is
fucking he's her muscle, you know, he's Ali Yeah yeah,
and then she was just there. I'm like, who the
fuck even is this character?
Speaker 1: But all of them were pretty bad though, like as
far as like their jobs. I remember I laughed multiple
times of So they're climbing to go the teodactyl and
that's where the very like, no, there's other cgi stuff
that was bad, but that was a look at this.
They're on top of the mountain. There's waterfalls, and the
waterfall mountains were looking rough. It was looking they had
to climb down every time. They kept doing wide shots too.
It was just like the Ragnark where he was like
stop it shot once and move on, but they kept
showing it. E. Marshalley says to John on the bailey, Oh,
I don't worry, like you're not gonna fall because I
got the rope. Don't worry about it. First time he
like falls marcially, he's like fucking digging around in the
bush and look a little looking a little layer right here. Whoa.
And then later on the same thing when the terodactyls attack,
he like runs over back to the rope, it's like, dude,
it's different if its professionals. But this guy's sure he's
a climber, but he like he was actively nervous before
they did this. It's like, maybe hold on because he
could make a mistake. But it's only two times. But
just the fact that twice danger was happening and he
wasn't right by the rope to grab it. He had
to like sprint and like oh and then get to it.
So again, these were not the best mercenaries.
Speaker 3: So that scene though, when they were thought they were
pulling them up and they pull like the fuck uh,
I can never say it right. Ketsl coatless, I think
is what it is. Ketsla Coatless. It like crawls up
and it's got his body in its beak when the
rope attached. Yeah, that was just Yeah. I feel like
if we were all on a dinosaur island, this is
probably my fate. You'd be pulling me up and then
you're gonna see them already in the fucking beak of
this thing.
Speaker 1: So have these people who would be be Yeah, you'd
be Jonathan Bailey, though I don't think you'd be dead.
I'd apparently be the dad of the bum to knee,
but I would I would have locked Exavier in there.
Though that's a different take.
Speaker 3: Situation. You seard me on the boat.
Speaker 1: So I liked that gimmick of the whole pole rope
up they pull up the bird dinosaur. But my issue
was they did that again later on with the helicopter.
They did the exact same spoof where you see the
live helicopter. It's helicopter's about to leave. Shoot the flair
turns around, it's all smoky, Jonathan Bailey standing there waiting,
he's he's like getting closer and closer, and then it's
revealed it's just the d MO mouth with it and
it's the helicopter in its mouth.
Speaker 3: They get me, they did you get me? So I
give them.
Speaker 1: Okay, that didn't get me because they just okay, well they
show the d Rex movement. So that's why it made
me like the rope one lesser because they kind of
just did the same thing again.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was thinking we'd see the helicopter like
fly in into this thing, will like then smash it
or grab it or something. But when it walked in
and had it its mouth, it's like, oh fuck, guy
screaming on the inside.
Speaker 2: Closes, there's like a zoom and shot of like the
cockpit and there's just teeth already in the cabinet. It's
just like fucking uh, what's his name, Emelio something from
Mission Impossible one when you get he gets the face pincered.
Speaker 1: That's that's what it was like, I can't stop. I
can't stop it. And that's where, yeah, that's a moment
where I guess but okay, the you know, big metal
helicopter teeth are going through. When they have that show
out of the Daughter with the boat, we told the
boat scene the rubber boats on top of it, and
it's a great shot where the t Rex going down
and it's like the Freddy where the teeth and the
face are going against the rubber boat. But when they
did the helicopter thing lately, I was like, don't you
think it would break through that boat? Like those sharp
teeth of the you know t Rex, I'm.
Speaker 3: Sure they're pretty sharp. That's just damn good. Uh you
know those safety uh old seventeen year old boat sitting
there inflatable and flows inflatables have to be uh wrapped up.
Speaker 2: It wasn't you know, wear and tear for the elements
and whatnot.
Speaker 1: How do you think which that really bugged me too,
is when they get to the factory, they figure this
generator goes on, they stand around for about five minutes.
I invesaid, a, I'm like in the fucking bilding my
first Thingyvie, like I'm getting this building that's making a plan,
but they just stand around. Music's blaring. How ramtid do
you think that? Like cheese, sauce and salsas, they're like
all those things, Like, I bet those food were not
doing good.
Speaker 3: The bags of chips are probably okay, though I would
have cracked one open.
Speaker 1: Maybe. Yeah, I was gonna ask them. I hope someone's
smart enough.
Speaker 2: This thing is like fucking hunting your family.
Speaker 3: You're just.
Speaker 1: No, it's just like dead by the chips. But yeah,
I want something that seemed to do some shop by
shot pauses and see if there's any chip flares in
there that are h newer than seventeen years old. Because
there's a lot of there was a lot of brand names,
so I was like lazed three. It's like, I bet
they screwed upout one of those chips and something didn't exist.
But he brought the whole Yeah, yeah, exactly, you brought
the whole family thing. That was something that bugged me
to later on Wash. So the boat crashes, Mercia Ley
has a plan. I can outrun it. But that wasn't
his plans. He yelled, these fucking mercenaries.
Speaker 2: Did the pod the paw Kent thing, don't save me?
Speaker 1: He did, but I mean we're at the very beginning
when they're foolum. He says, I can outrun these things.
And what's his plan? To drive into the shallow lands
the rocks and crash the boat. That's not running them, sir,
that's like maneuvering them. But oh remember yeah, at the
very start. So that's what they do. Yeah, they crashed
the ship. That's final. We lose some people, but they're like, really,
we gotta go. We got the plans coming to borlah
blah blah. And they have the scene where Jonathan Bailey
and Ruber Friend like just sit down have a conversation
about life and humans and have extension and everything. And
I just didn't buy that moment. It's like, this is
death Cone five and Jonathan Bailey just sitting there changing
the film of his fucking cafer It's like, you got
a day to get to this facility and there's dinosaurs here,
like you don't got time to talk about Like, well,
hes might be the smartest, but we're about to die,
Like and I get it, you're That's where the original
Jurassic Park. Throughout the whole film, all Gory's meetings of life,
things you can take from you this movie. It's like,
let's just have a scene. Jonathan Bailey throws up quickly. Yeah,
we're smart, but ruining the earth. Huh. And then we
move on, just like Marshally's dead child, which I guarantee
that's why they made that. He saved those children. But
uh yeah, like Kirkle alluded to, we got the flair.
You know, got the Malcolm scene again. Bryce Alice Howard
did that in dress. I'm sure there's another one I'm missing,
But we did the flair thing again. Uh And just
as always, what I thought was, Oh, at least this
sound's gonna be different, because maybe they're gonna kill the
characters as the flare and it's a noble sacrifice. Na.
For some reason, Donkey goes in the water as the flare.
Flare goes out to your ex un she's going, ah,
I think that's it. They cut away, so I know, okay,
it's not Dick his intro and then I don't know
where he was trajectory there he was somewhere in another bush,
another water part shot the flare, they turned around saved,
which I thought was all very risky. I thought the
point was you were sacrificing yourself, sir, not to like
bring them down. So it was a little cheesy scene there,
but yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Agree, I think you should have died.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably should have died. And then that was another
time they get in that boat. Their hair is not moving,
terrible boat cgi of the water and the mountains just
like you guys don't look like you look like you're
an Arcade ride right now. But I digress. Wish we
go next, uh or nowhere if we've expanded, well, not
really anywhere.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to double back on the uh what's
the name ed? Ed? Skiing the his name Ed?
Speaker 1: It's it Skirner scheme.
Speaker 2: Then the boyd Holebrook character when Scargo is like going
for the tranquilizer shot and this guy is not even
on set, like he is nowhere on this boat, and
until they like, yeah.
Speaker 3: Like they grab it.
Speaker 2: Chocolate Moose comes out. They're all celebrating, like, hell, yeah,
the mission went awesome. I guess he's having like a
nap or something like he's literally not anywhere on screen.
They have every side character that's on this boat in
the sequence except him, and then the fucking the what
do they call the spinosaurs uh are coming out and
they mentioned there what was the term, like symbiotic relationship
with the Moses. They have each other hunt and it's like, fuck,
that's terrifying. Uh, just swarm in the boat.
Speaker 3: You get him.
Speaker 2: He just came out of the shit or something ready
to go. He pulls out his gun.
Speaker 1: He's waiting for an excuse. He was waiting for excuse
to start raining down.
Speaker 2: The time that you see him for the first time
to his death is like probably forty seconds, like like
it is.
Speaker 3: So he comes out like no hesitation.
Speaker 1: Boom boom boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 2: And he like he does his job pretty well. He
sucks up the one spina saur like it goes into
the water. I don't know if he kills it, but
he definitely deters. It goes to the other side of
the boat.
Speaker 3: Same thing do doo doo doo.
Speaker 2: And then he just gets chopped. But uh I I
just couldn't help but laugh in that sequence. It was
just so funny because I'm like, where the fuck even
was this guy? And he thought even like talking anybody,
He's just he's just popping off on these uh spinosaurs.
But yeah, he probably didn't even get through a full
clip honestly, like, uh yeah, he definitely didn't earn his wage,
but shouts out to that guy. That was a funny
scene for me.
Speaker 1: It was I just had a good time that. It
was very odd. Again, lots of weird, odd things like
this would be cool because, like Kirkham said, I think
my biggest thing is not what he was doing, it's
just that they introduced him. He's an asshole guy. And
then the second scene is him being like, hey, we
shouldn't save these people. Should go there, get the money,
you know, another boat, get him. Then he's gone, maybe
he's just pouting somewhere, and the next time we see
him he's in full terminator rambo moo just and uh,
Harley knew he you know, and then, which I understood.
But also when the dad was sitting we're gonna have
to jump off the boat like this is Marshall Ley
has put them in a terrible situation here, you know.
Speaker 2: But I feel like the family jumped pretty like quickly,
like obviously the daughter fell uh Xaber follows them after.
It's like, hey, we gotta go now. It's like do
we like we think we could wait a little bit,
and like the the murder scenarios are like trying to
like get things organized, like, hey, this is our plans?
Where we doing? Like the families already like in the water,
you got the lady in the crows nest man overboard.
It's just uh, it was chaos, but it worked out
for most of the characters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where will we go? Is there anything else in
particular here?
Speaker 3: Per pro vision? I really like how they were just
toying with that on many different ways, like on the
beach when that spinosaurus rolls over and kills that one.
Girls like fuck, I did not see that whatsoever. That
was pretty great. There's another one too.
Speaker 1: That's why they us see gi tailor because they can't
put those nasaurs anywhere.
Speaker 3: That's right. We let's call back to Jurasic work three
with the terodactyl. There is another scene that actually was
with one of those flying guys, but I can't I
can't remember it. Yeah, the nests. It was somewhere around there,
I feel like, and it was just it was a
quick cutshot of just using your perperal visions, so I
think it was it was like it was doing something.
It was looking at someone or what. I can't remember exactly.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I was like like bum but little
disappointed that a lot of those dinsaers in the labs
were always just like a raptor but two heads, you
know this dinosaur.
Speaker 3: There was a triceratops with two heads.
Speaker 1: In there too, I know, but I mean like I
was one more than just like what was the defect?
Well two heads?
Speaker 3: It's like oh yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: I found it hard to believe when Jonathan Bailey he's
uh taking the sample from the egg and he's like
it doesn't harm the embryo, and I'm like, fuck off,
Like he just yourself like eighty percent of the mass
out of the egg in the fucking uh it is
giant needle thing there, Like there's no embryo left that
is a hollow egg. There's no way that didn't affect
the embryo by any means. But he's an expert and
I'm not just an armchair quarterback, so I digress. Yeah,
it also looks surprisingly like come that one. Oh that's sample.
Speaker 1: Back after all this you got the wrong sample doctor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is causing more heart disease.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's worse than ever. Now it accelerates. What is
it my exhilarrate? So yeah, that's what it is. No,
what it would be? Is it exhilarate? No, accelerate, thank you. Yeah,
we want into twenty years. Now you're down to one year.
Everybody can get a heart disease. It's over. No quadruple
bypasses can help you, nothing like that. It's over for you.
Speaker 2: Marsha Lei. Man, I almost want to add him to
a superhero draft. This guy would be really good in
a Marvel project. I can almost see him as a
Blade character, but that'll never happen. So here we are.
Speaker 1: This gave me hope because I always like, man, he's
getting kind of old, like I don't know if he
can do it, but I was like, no, he still
looks like a million bucks series and gonna shape you
looking around, So yeah, I hope that or like I said,
I at least hope Midnight Sun happens where he could
play said character, or even then fucking seag Wars get
him in there. He's great. He was definitely, for me,
the best part of this movie, but all he's kind
of always like that. I did enjoy Bailey quite a
bit at times, but then, like I said, other time,
I think he was I like the moments where he's
kind of doing an awkward, nervous nerd to try and
find some emotion with people. I think when he's going
too overboard in the Science, he fell a little like
a video game NPC, like, ah, this is the science character.
But you know, I didn't think there was any bad acting,
and I don't even think I could put Scargro's bad acting.
I just think they didn't give her much to work
with with that character. That's a very Blake state Blake
slate the character. So M yeah, I donestly I think
we haven't touched upon yet music of characters. Everyone made
it out on our main cast except for Ed Skaren
and those two other people.
Speaker 2: The whole family made it out. Ah, yep, they.
Speaker 1: All know, at least for now, you know. And they
bring a diasaur home, so we'll see it go was on.
Speaker 3: There, Doloris oh Man.
Speaker 2: So there was the moments. I guess you made the
argument Xavier showed his true quality, you know, helped help
the family. And then the dad who's like very nice
to him, he's like, oh, you're not so bad. It
doesn't say that exactly, just through their actions, and I'm like, man, like,
give it a month back on the homeland. He's gonna
fucking hate Xavier again. I guarantee you he's gonna be
up to his old ways.
Speaker 1: So was his daughter's pregnant. He just like, I'm not
doing this. I'm going back to the island.
Speaker 3: Oh that was.
Speaker 2: Another follow up short, not a whole movie, just like
like what's going on with.
Speaker 1: Another sales trip. That was another funny moment that me
and Kirk laughed as so at one point, which actually
wish I had more scenes. I thought Bailey and Ali
had some good chemistry going on there, like a good
buddy cop thing where it's like romance where, Okay, come
more scenes. I think you had something really good here.
But they find that engine studio and it's very odd that,
like I think it's Ali he pulls like a lever
and it starts to light. The room all starts to
light up, but it's not like one hundred percent, but
it's like i'd say, seventy five percent lit. And then
for some reason, John the bailey gets like a flashlight
like shuts shining around. It was so unneesss there. I
wonder if on that day at set they thought, you know,
eff x ys, that's probably gonna be a nighttime scene
or something. So here's the flashlight. But at the time,
it's like it completely lights up. It's okay, look at this,
look at this. You don't need this anymore. Your waist
is battery. Save it for later. But you know, just
minor things.
Speaker 2: So it also seems like there's just flashlights and like
every every area in Yeah flares flash lights, and like
the tent that had the boat, it's like, oh, here's
here's a flashlight. Which wasn't that dark. It was darker
than you know, the scene you just laid out, But
a lot of flashlights on this island.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else forty phones?
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't think of anything outside of what I'll
say for my final rating.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll go first, just in case I am lowest,
we'll see. I don't want crooks, but I'm gonna go
exactly what I expected, going at six at ten. Maybe
if I didn't watch with some friends, maybe it would
be lower, but I had a good enough time with it.
Six at ten is okay, that's passable and good enough
obviously is better than a five. So there's like a
good enough things that can make me enjoy it. But yeah,
I don't know what I'll be returned to this one,
but yeah, that's where I'm gonna go. Uh six out
of ten. Well, it was a fun time at least
tonight with the review and with you guys. But nothing,
nothing out of the park, crazy good, no characters to
really glean onto that have like a big emotional story,
no massive changes or swings or fun surprises like we
talked about, So just a safe Hey we're gonna land
on this island dinosaurs. What would you do if you're
a mercenary? So I digress. But that's where I am, kirkhapatsir,
I give six.
Speaker 2: Where you going, I'm gonna go right there with you?
Six flatow your anticipation was eight on predictions I total initially,
and then you talk me down and then I think
I said seven and a half, which, like now it
looks like a stretch, but at the time, I don't know,
I didn't really think. I thought, at least like there'd
be like the intense moments, which unfortunately just felt a
little flat for me. But yeah, no, it's a little bummer.
I wasn't blown away, but there was fun enough time
in here, and definitely not one I'm gonna be racing
to rewatch. The only one out of the Jurassic Worlds
I've rewatched, like even once, I think is just the original,
which I do enjoy that movie. I like the setup
of it, but yeah, I don't know better the next time.
Speaker 3: I am going to give this and I'm gonna I'm
letting a little bit of biased to seep into it,
but I'm giving give me a nine out of ten.
I'm talking at one full point specifically, just because the
the CGI just was not on point. It could have
been better. But as far as you know characters go,
you know, they're not perfect and and all of their
developments and whatnot. Some are a little bit more developed
than others. But totally okay, totally happy with it. I
like this more than I was expecting, and it just
feels very different from the other world films that we got.
And like I said at the start, I like that
these dinosaurs are just dinosaurs, just doing dinosaur things, and
people are caught up in the mess of it. I
like that a lot, and it's cool to get to
see more expansion on this world. I haven't watched Chaos three,
so I don't know if Chaos three has any kind
of nudges towards this. That's another thing. Camp Cretaceous. There's
reviews for that that are up on the feeds too,
So there's that, and Carl joined me for one of
those reviews too. Actually, so episode then, yeah, there you
go that one. But as far as it goes, just
capturing some of those just moments where it's like, hey,
you know, the dinosaurs and whatnot, and it's just the
callbacks to dass Up Park one, Durstupark three, and incorporation
of the world element. I think that there's a lot
in here that really sits well with me, and I
like that it's just a huge focus on water. We
really have never gotten that with Drastic Park before Drastic World,
so I enjoyed that quite a bit. Yeah, I think
it definitely well like copies and calls back to some
things that we've already seen. It definitely introduces its own
level of new things too to this world that I'm
happy with. And I like the way it ended where
it's just you see the dolphins swimming out there and
you know, just a classic fashion when they're flying away
from the island in the first film, and you see
the birds flying over the water too, So I like that.
It's just kind of like a little nod towards that.
But yeah, I think I think it definitely it set
out when, did what it needed to be done, and
if this is the only one that we get, I
am more than happy with that because I'm going to
be watching rewatching this many a time over. I think
that this movie did not give us a credit book
now Steel Book is atrocious. I don't know what the
fuck they're thinking, Like you got to pick up the
game here, like Discord, that's so fucking boring, Like you're
gonna charge that's the four K, probably with a digital copy,
probably doesn't include Blu ray, probably doesn't include DVD anything
like that. It's just the two and you're probably charging
at least forty nine USD or something like that, which
is an absolute fucking joke. They need to get someone
else in there, because that's fucking pick any one of
your IMAX posters, any one of your fucking for D
Ultra posters, Like there's just some way better screenshots you
could use instead of Zora Bennett on the cliff side
with the fucking Quetzala Colass just hanging off there like.
Speaker 1: Jesus ch.
Speaker 3: That's right exactly. But yeah, anyways, I just think I
just think that, like I was saying, this movie not
ending on a cliffhanger, not ending like hey we're getting
that trilogy or anything like that. This makes me happy
because this movie was a complete treat. I walked out
of that movie theater seeing Dominion, thinking, man, that's it,
that's the last of it. But sure enough, here we go.
We got this the seventh movie, seven of these movies.
It's crazy. And yeah, the way it ended, I can.
I can die on that hill and be like, Okay,
this is it. That's it for now. But you know,
who knows, maybe we'll get another one. You never know,
so we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
But that being said, I'm happy nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know we'll be talking about that multiple times
of me and Kirk will tell a little bit on
weekly gee, because after that we'll get the first weekend
and we'll talk about the draft and talk about that in
August too, because I'll say that's a big question of
who ends up on top Durassic World suit Man or
F four and who knows. But that's our review. So
if you enjoy the school listen the other ones we'll
be back for multiple times throughout the week. But for
our next GV episode six sixty nine, eight days away Superman,
which is crazy to say, by it is just around
the corner so and it will not be boring.
Speaker 2: Bye bye,